Guitars & Bass

[verbal fossil]

And i'm not home too so i can't listen if you send clips atm

And also is it like ambient noise even when you are not playing or noise that appears after some time letting a note ring?

[blazing flare]

the latter

[verbal fossil]

If its that i got this issue mostly when i crank up the tone on the OD pedal

I got this on the Petrucci too

But ofc it changes the tone too if you lower the tone of the OD

[kindred fjord]

send help

ive gotten an acoustic guitar for christmas which requires new strings which im also getting lmao

basically i really dont know any basics!

[toxic wharf]

Is it a nylon or steel string?

[kindred fjord]

steel

strings were not broken, i do not know what happened honestly, some simply were not in their proper place and were likely far away from where i live, never to be seen again by a living soul

[toxic wharf]

Than its not too hard to change strings. Enjoy your present!

[kindred fjord]

yep aight aight

danke :3

[median hemlock]

idk then

[bright latch]

I might just get a guitar in its place then

Maybe a jackson Kelly

[deft reef]

My first petals

[bronze orbit]

I have that orange one too

[wintry nova]

Got the new amplifier for Christmas

[prime sapphire]

hey guys, I have a question. I'd really like to know how I can tune my guitar for tunings bands like wage war and architects use. I've got a digitech drop pedal, but the tricky thing about this is, that for example GFA#D#GC is Drop A# but with a low G. I couldn't wrap my head around how I can tune it, cause the pedal drops every string by one semitone.

My guitar is in Drop B and I use 60-12 and I can’t tune higher cause there’s too much tension

[verbal fossil]

i don't get why you want to tune higher when you mention you want to do lower tunings 🤔

[prime sapphire]

My idea was that I just drop it to drop G with my pedal and from there I’d tune the other strings to an drop A# tuning. But that would be too much tension

okay I might have an idea, I can just drop it to G standard, thats actually the tuning but with an C between the low G and F

[deft reef]

Nice

[verbal fossil]

or just drop the low B to G#

then detune only 1 semi tone down lmao

[prime sapphire]

well then the G# string is very loose

[soft ocean]

Ayo, I wanted to get y'all thoughts on the Ibanez - GRG170DX-BKN.
I'm planning on buying it as my first electric guitar.
Is it worth it?

[vital carbon]

for a few bucks more you can snag an RG421, has the wizzard 3 neck and slightly better pickups.

the GRG221 is also a good entry level

honestly it doesnt matter, just get whatever really excites you, its more important to want to pick it up and learn than to have the "best" item that doesnt really spark your flame

[soft ocean]

thanks mate

I like the style of the GRG221 as well, but yeah, I limited myself to 300 bucks for the guitar

[graceful socket]

This is exactly what I started out on (well, lefty version, but still). Long story short, good entry guitar at a reasonable price, I personally got rid of it eventually because the single coil humbucker in the middle annoyed me and disturbed my playing while the bridge isnt suited all that well for downtuning. It works but there's certainly good stuff for a similar price that'll work better imo

[soft ocean]

well, that's the first guitar I get (except from the classical guitar I have since I'm 11, now 18 lmfao, never picked it up) so I don't expect something perfect.
But yeah, y'all seem to agree on the fact that it's great as an entry guitar.

[wind mauve]

hey guys should i cop

[slow arrow]

Does anyone here play 5 string bass? I went to go change my strings yesterday and welp uh tragedy struck.

Please help me... 🥲

Like I'm genuinely so confused what happened. I went to go put my bass back on its stand and everything hit the ground. It's not like I've ever gone higher than 440 and I haven't been lower than drop F since like April. I've been in standard the last like 3 months so I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it or not.

[lethal fractal]

Got some guitar picks

[toxic wharf]

No

I think I saw a samuraiguitarist video saying its one of the stupidest gadgets for guitarplayers lol. It doesnt really train the fingers the way you need them as a guitarplayer

[wind mauve]

oh no not for finger training

for corrective administration

play one too many wonderwalls, stairways, smokes on waters, etc and you get put in the finger stretcher

[verbal fossil]

when you send guitar tabs to a friend that don't have much of guitar practice but still wants to learn a song you made

[wind mauve]

the free krimh drums are actually overpowered

especially compared to the free kit i was using before, restrains

dunno if i’d buy the full version, i think i’d go for a GGD kit

that and the GGD Nolly Dingwall bass pack

[verbal fossil]

actually i have the full version because my uncle bought it and logged into his account on my PC to download it

also here is the song the entire song's drums are built in groove of krimh drums except the breakdown

and since i didn't have to make the drums the whole thing took me about an hour

to write and record

[wind mauve]

i had sent the riffs i did with the free kit and a sample midi file given for it

but im on discord mobile which now suddenly no longer lets you search in forum channels like this one

ah here

after a few minutes of furious scrolling

[dry parrot]

i think buying emg's was a waste of money

aside from in the room sound, my go to guitar with emgs sounds the same as my 7 string with stock jackson pickups

on recording i mean

[wind mauve]

i’m getting a DiMarzio pickup for Christmas myself

it’s been delayed till February for

god knows why

but i’m hoping it’ll help me get just generally a cleaner, tighter sound out of my guitar whether it’s the Ibanez or the Legator i plan on buying off my pal

[lethal fractal]

Pickups don't change your tone that much compared to your speakers and other things they will sound different but it's smaller then what most people think, generally any nice Pickups will sound great the biggest difference is from active to passive.

[dry parrot]

i see

[wispy flint]

no wonder my guitar sucks to play lol

since it hasnt been played in years (hand me down), the strings are under so much tension that they're hover really high above the fretboard

i never realized how much closer strings usually are to it

btw, what's the difference between playing on a fret and between them?

[lethal fractal]

This might be an awful explanation as I'm tired and going nuts...

The fret somewhat acts like the nut, but only when you press behind it causing the string to have to bend over it.
When you press on the fret it's like you are trying to play a natural harmonic and when playing a natural harmonic the string vibrates before and after your finger, you also normally remove your finger right after leaving the string to vibrate. When pressing the fret you are squishing the string in-between your finger and the fret adding more friction not allowing the string to vibrate freely and vibrations are what make sound so without them you don't have anything.

[wispy flint]

right okay

[fervent fox]

Got a variety pack of picks today. I’m curious to try the sharp pick as I’ve seen it used by a few artists. Any of em look appealing?

Btw that 2.0 mm pick is ridiculously THICC

[glacial osprey]

Tim Henson uses sharps

I enjoy all those yellow ultex, the green, and blue

John Browne uses that same 1.0mm black nylon

[lethal fractal]

I have a few of those

[frosty bridge]

green dunlops my beloved

[deft reef]

We’re they to tight

[scenic dune]

I need a better job cuz I really want a custom solar 8 string

[timid flicker]

Man I use 3mm and I find that thin sometimes

[scenic dune]

Bro what, I’m stuck on a 1mm triangle pick

[timid flicker]

I guess it just comes to you one day

Using thicc picks

[toxic wharf]

Why 'stuck'? Its highly personal

Misha Mansoor plays with thin ass picks

[scenic dune]

I meant like I probably don’t see myself using thicker picks, same way how I’m stuck using telecaster models rather than others

[toxic wharf]

That black jazz III Xl is my favorite pick. Tried it once and never reconsidered another pick

Tele's are sexy looking guitars

[scenic dune]

Especially type t model solar guitars

I want a custom but it’ll probably be a while before I have enough saved for one

Or if I can even find out about getting in contact with them to make one

[lethal fractal]

I have some 4mm

Depends what the material is of your pick as well on how flexible it is my wood pick is not to thick but will not move.

[wind mauve]

so with neuraldsp i'm a returning customer so i get a discount, and nik's code gives 30% off as well

the archetype nolly is 135 euros normally, with all the discounts it's 94 euros, which comes out to... $135 CAD

[toxic wharf]

So dont buy Nolly...I swear...almost all tones can be achieved with Plini

Listen to some demos...you need to EQ them differently, but I have both

Even the post-rock leads can be achieved on Plini. If you have Nolly, no reason to buy Plini and vice versa

[wind mauve]

too late :)

i went for nolly over plini cause it had four amps and the cab/head switcher

also more pedals on it

and i'm liking the rhythm tone i made for nolly over the plini, the overdrive pedals sound better imo

i didnt buy plini tho, i was going to but buying psycho-frame merch ate my budget so i never grabbed it while it was on sale

[lethal fractal]

https://youtu.be/kYhvS9v7vSE?si=9R0kcNkhvme8Th2F

Always some wild stuff

[severe flume]

2mm isn't that thick?

[fervent fox]

The way I’m seeing it is hitting a string with one of those thick boys must be the equivalent to getting punched in the face…orrrrrr your playing bass

[toxic wharf]

It is thick for a guitar pick. Most players dont use a 2 mm pick. I saw an interview with Tosin Abasi saying he plays 1.38 or something and he said its quite thick

[quasi mirage]

Ibanez mentioned, good choice

[toxic wharf]

Recently I acquired an Ibanez RGMS7. I've accidently stripped one of the intonation screws. Anyone know where to get a replacement in the UK or a non permanent fix? Bridge is standard monorail.

[severe flume]

Yeah for a guitar pick it's kinda thick i guess

[severe flume]

Gah i just finished learning fully Through Struggle by AILD on bass with the tone and everything

my head is more full than your local shop on black friday

[lethal fractal]

Man I remember when a 7 string felt big in my hands now it feels like a twig

[graceful socket]

Feel that lmao. It's been feeling so small recently and dont even get me started on playing a six

Does the 7 feeling small count as a reason to get an 8, I'm still looking to justify one lol

[lethal fractal]

If you will use it get an 8

[toxic wharf]

I think for most guitarplayers an 8 is hardly needed

[lethal fractal]

I'd agree I mean 8 need an 8 for everything I play generally so I went to a 9 to just add more

[scenic dune]

I have no idea how I’m gonna set this up

[fiery bluff]

I'm currently transferring from acoustic guitar, to Electric. There are alot of differences from both, but I have a basic understanding of what a whammy/tremelo bar does and the volume nob on the guitar. But I'm not too sure about pickups, tone controls, and the pickup switch.

Can anybody help me out and explain them briefly?

[wind mauve]

pickups are what take the sound of the strings and put them through the amplifier using magic, the volume knob controls the output volume of these pickups, the tone knob controls the "tone" that the pickup can impart on the sound; generally, for heavy metal, you just crank that all the way up

the switch changes pickups

if it is a three-way switch, then the bottom position is usually the bridge pickup, the middle is both at once, and the top is neck pickup. if it is a five-way, then the two additional positions activate only one pickup in a humbucker pair; the sound difference is very noticeable so you'll figure that out easily

[fiery bluff]

Thank you!!

[wind mauve]

generally again, the bridge pickup is for rhythm and the neck pickup is for solos & leads

that doesnt mean you have to do it that way

but it works for starting out

[fiery bluff]

Thanks a lot

[wind mauve]

enjoy your journey

[lethal fractal]

Looks like a fun collection

[lethal fractal]

i would break in not for the guitars but for the cameras

[wind mauve]

anyways i re-recorded that monthly challenge thing from a while back using th nolly archetype and it still has the recording issue at the very beginning of the track this is so distressing

[lone anchor]

if anyone wants to adopt this tab for burnout im never gonna finish it

[lone anchor]

tabbed out the main riff to take flight

[last dust]

okay so i have NO CLUE what to google to figure out of this

but i got a guitar a couple of days ago, and changed the strings yesterday

was gonna play right now when i realised it looked like the bridge was about to get ripped out bc of string tension

this is what it looks like when im in E standard, and idk it doesnt feeil like i should be able to see the trem block??

drop C for comparison

[toxic wharf]

What guitar did you get? Looks like you got a floating trem so theres a bunch of springs in the back?

[grand wolf]

Going today to see what I gotta do to fix my guitar

[last dust]

i dont know the exact guitar model, but its a washburn x-series

as far as i can see through the backplate there are only two springs

[toxic wharf]

Yeah so its a trem bridge...you cant just slap any new strings on it and change the tuning just like that.

The trem bridge operates like a seesaw

You need to partially tune the guitar with the springs in the back in order to level out the bridge.

If your bridge is not levelled you will get intonation/tuning issues.

[last dust]

are there any videos/tutorials that explains how to do it?

[gritty garden]

5 minute mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMItRvqE0_c

With those bridges if you change tunings, or even the gauge of the strings on there, the tension springs in the back of the guitar will require adjusting to make sure the bridge sits flat, hence why if it's generally better to get a fixed bridge for your first guitar so you don't have to worry about that.

There are still other things to consider too like truss road adjustment, saddle adjustment to make sure the guitar it properly intonated - i.e. the notes don't go sharp or flat as you move up the fretboard, but if you don't know what you're doing get a guitar store/luthier/tech to look at it.

[last dust]

thanks 🙇🙇

[lethal fractal]

Your pfp is identical to what someone I know looks like and it always throws me off really badly

[last dust]

LMAO

that looks a LOT better

thanks @toxic wharf and Phrost

[wind mauve]

[lethal fractal]

Well done

[balmy vortex]

Got 3, one is going to electric callboy

[lethal fractal]

Nice

[gritty garden]

Still doesn't look quite flat, but could be the angle of the shot, might need slightly tweaking a little more

But glad you sorted it

[vital carbon]

So Im doing a trial of the Nolly plugin and the Petrucci seems to be way more bang for the buck. Am I crazy?

[wind mauve]

yes because the petrucci is a soldano amp and the nolly is an evh amp

[vital carbon]

Yes, I am crazy?

[wind mauve]

yes

[vital carbon]

ok, just checking

[wind mauve]

they're two different amps

petrucci's features might be more appealing to some

[vital carbon]

I mean the amount of stuff you get like presets and things

[wind mauve]

ok presets are literally entirely unimportant

[vital carbon]

I get that

[wind mauve]

i still cant believe people be charging money for presets like bro 😭

someone could literally send me screenshots of the preset and i could achieve literally the same thing

[vital carbon]

Just going thru to demo both haviing more presets made JP's seem like it has more range

It doesnt help that im garbage at guitar

[wind mauve]

but yes, petrucci does have the built-in transposer

which might be useful for people who want easy pitch shifting

[vital carbon]

I have a digitech whammy so its less important

[wind mauve]

nolly has four amps and lets you switch out head/cabs

its all preference, i personally love the 5150 and kraken sound a lot more than the soldano sound and it's far more useful for the things i do

plus the two overdrive pedals on nolly are excellent for my purposes

but petrucci is definitely versatile in terms of having both very crunchy metal tones as well as decent cleans

[vital carbon]

If you could only have 1 would you get the Nolly over JP

from the sound of it, Nolly is pretty nasty

Im tempted to try the Morello one too cause I made a rip off arm the homeless with a toggle to do all the bs solos

[wind mauve]

i mean

i did

so yes

[vital carbon]

yea, I would tend to agree

[balmy vortex]

The petrucci is a mesa?

[toxic wharf]

It is

The Petrucci is more bang for the buck. Nolly is older, amd despite it being different amps you cam get very similar tones from each if you know what youre doing

Petrucci has transpose function and the post-fx are better and more varied

People talk about different 'amps' in the archetypes but I think its mostly a marketing ploy by Neural DSP which I dont like. They crack out a suite or archetype every few months that hardly differ from each other

[wind mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/little-big-planet-what-da-hell-little-big-planet-what-ayo-what-gif-13768843195184919620

I got it wrong

[balmy vortex]

Yeah, I believe they're modelled off of the mesa jp2c and not a soldano since John plays exclusively mesa

[wind mauve]

see the thing is

is that i knew he played the same amp as an actual amp suite that nDSP had

so i had a 50/50 chance to guess

[lethal fractal]

I use nolly and petrucci waiting for nolly x as well.
Petrucci I use for all my clean and lead tones and nolly is all Rhythm and I tend to go to it more for more jazzy warmer tones.

[toxic wharf]

For the latter Plini or the new Morgan suite is great

I own Petrucci, Nolly, Plini, Abasi, Granophyre and Nameless. Wasted my money. Could have done with 2 but fell for Neurals marketing 😮‍💨

[balmy vortex]

Grano is goated for rhythms

[wind mauve]

she grano on my phyre

but yeah if we get a nolly and abasi x it’ll be peak i think

[lethal fractal]

Yea they would be although any jazz guitar is just for my own satisfaction so I'm not spending money to get a similar tone.

[toxic wharf]

The thing is, you can get the same tone from others. Nameless, granophyre, NTS and cali are so similar

[balmy vortex]

If only the real amps were that way, thank god they're not

[median hemlock]

yummi

[toxic wharf]

Dont even use real amps live anymore 🤷‍♂️. I have an Uberschall collecting dust and sold my 5150 recently

[balmy vortex]

And I just got a granophyre

[gentle granite]

so my amp took a dump a couple weeks ago so i hooked up scarlett 2i2 up to laptop and bought a neural plugin, when ever i launch the plugin i get this terrible pulsating high feedback, scared that shit outta me, turned the lights off, unplugged power to laptop, isolated the interface away from any other wires and no joy, any ideas? TIA

[toxic wharf]

Sounds like your I/O's arent correctly set up

Or you didnt select the correct driver

[golden hound]

my dear friends. i picked up a jackson js12 the other day. I've had the guitar for only 3 days. first couple days it played and sounded great and now today randomly the E A D strings are buzzing. Any ideas i can try?

[lethal fractal]

Could be due to a lot of things where is it buzzing on the fretboard could help determine where the issue is.

[golden hound]

they all buzz up to the 12th fret then play fine.

you think its just from new guitar with new strings?

[lethal fractal]

Check the neck doesn't sound like the nut

[golden hound]

i can hear the G string starting to buzz a bit too.

[lethal fractal]

Sounds like the neck isn't how it's supposed to, if you don't know how to check and fix it take it to a tech...

[golden hound]

alright, thanks for the help

[lethal fractal]

Hope you can figure it out

[quasi mirage]

I finally bought it 🤩🤩

[lethal fractal]

Hell yaaaaaa

Sticker time

I'm going to remove the paint and get mine repainted

[median hemlock]

yummi

[timid flicker]

Should I get a 7 string?

[wind mauve]

yeah

[lethal fractal]

If you will use it yes

[timid flicker]

Ok which one

Keep it around 25k INR

Idk the dollar conversion

[severe flume]

Never thought i'd see a capybara with the crucible riding a turtle before @timid flicker

[timid flicker]

Capybaras will often ride other animals and the crucible I just edited in for fun

[severe flume]

lol i know about capybaras being the chillest mfs on this planet but the crucible made it funny

[timid flicker]

Exactly my intentions

[severe flume]

change my mind the marauder ks the easiest Doom Eternal boss

i'm pretty bad at Doom but killed him first try in not even 2 minutes

[timid flicker]

I forgot what the marauder is

[severe flume]

Just using meathook and ballista

[timid flicker]

My laptops been broken since 5 months haven't played since 😭😭

[severe flume]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-marauder-come-at-me-gif-18233194

that guy

[timid flicker]

Oh this guy

[severe flume]

yep that guy

[timid flicker]

I reached till the doom exterminator

Then my laptop died

[severe flume]

and on ps5

[severe flume]

i'm not there yet

[timid flicker]

Lol I forgot the story

Anyways I gotta run

[severe flume]

aight

[quasi mirage]

When I played doom eternal, I got the rune that lets me slow down time while airborne, so I used the super shotgun a lot in my playthrough

Cuz while grappling with the meathook I’d just slow down time and get good shots

[severe flume]

I use: better air movements, glory kills from further away and d&c

[quasi mirage]

I used air control, slow time, and farther glory kills

For the most part at least

I changed it every so often

[severe flume]

air control best rune in the whole game imo

[quasi mirage]

Ong

[severe flume]

you just can get so much more control on what you're doing and where you're going

It's also very good to hit quick scopes with pb

also pb sticky combos are better with air control

[toxic wharf]

You people talking about some weird ass guitars here

[severe flume]

oops

well Doom- Mick Gordon- 8 strings so i guess we're in the right place

[wind mauve]

anyways speaking of guitars

[quasi mirage]

Got a cool one to show?

[wind mauve]

y'all ever play em?

oh wait actually

i saw some weird shit the other day

so yes

[quasi mirage]

No never in my life now that I think about it 😐

[wind mauve]

i was on reverb lookin at shit

check that

that burl is actually like reflective gold

[quasi mirage]

Headless 👍 looks 👎

[wind mauve]

it's so gaudy and hideous but my crow brain is activated by shiny things

ok the fretboard is actually fire

and the pickups look interesting

[quasi mirage]

The body is hideous tho 💀

[wind mauve]

the main proiblem is the shape

that does not look like a comfy body shape

anyways guess the price

[quasi mirage]

Not cheap

Give me a ballpark

[wind mauve]

above $3k

any guessers in chat

[quasi mirage]

3.4 k

[wind mauve]

oh no

much higher

[quasi mirage]

3.9 k

[wind mauve]

no no no

much higher

[quasi mirage]

100k

Idfk

[wind mauve]

$9,072.24

there was a second, newer guitar by that company as well

8-string with fishman modern fluence

[quasi mirage]

Bro just say above 9 k then tf you got me thinking it’s in the 3k amount 💀

[wind mauve]

you just be thinkin wrong

[quasi mirage]

You wasn’t helping blud

[wind mauve]

im not here to do that

now look at the surfboard

[quasi mirage]

I got work to do

[wind mauve]

honestly i think it looks better than the gold one

[quasi mirage]

I’ll check it later

[toxic wharf]

Ngl, that ugly

[wind mauve]

yeah but in like a

[toxic wharf]

This one even worse

[wind mauve]

in a way

[toxic wharf]

Whats wrong with these companies

[wind mauve]

that makes me feel like i want it

like having a car crash in a box i can look at whenever i want

[wind mauve]

$19k btw

[toxic wharf]

I like the paintjob on the 2nd one

But the bodyshape is a huge miss

[toxic wharf]

Dang

[wind mauve]

yeah i really don't like the body

[toxic wharf]

Yeah imagine that paintjob on a guitar built by a company with actual taste

Would have been amazing

[wind mauve]

could see it on an abasi concepts or smth yeah

[lethal fractal]

I like this one as an art installation it looks good on its own put it in front of a person would look really off unless they build a uniform around the guitar.

[lethal fractal]

More cursed guitars
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CwGPWA_g2cq/?igsh=ZDE1MWVjZGVmZQ==

hutchinsonguitars

Attempting to play #tortureneverstops #WASPband with the #sawblade going round 🩸😵 Will I keep all my fingers? #tortureeclipse #dougblairofficial #bladelp #ltdguitars #ec1000 direct to #marshallamps #JCM1

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[toxic wharf]

Where we come from…

[wind mauve]

naw the only cursed guitar is that fucking schecter

iykyk

[timid flicker]

I get that reference

[spice hinge]

Did i ever show yall the guitar i got for christmas?? My first electric, its amazing

[thick delta]

do yall have any tips for getting into metal guitar if you dont know shit fuck

i played for about 8 months before but i was such a perfectionist i barely did anything

[balmy vortex]

Omega Sounds incredibly sick

[lethal fractal]

I mean just practice practice practice

[balmy vortex]

Slow tf down and train your muscle memory for down picking, alt picking, economy picking and all that jazz. Once you start learning songs, go learn the entire song not just parts

[toxic wharf]

Dont be a perfectionist, have fun, make your practice sound musical and play with a metronome.

I dont think you have to learn all the fancy picking techniques. See what your favourite bands are, what music you aspire to play and take techniques from that. You wanna make grunge music in the style of Nirvana? Why bother with economy picking? Just have a basic grasp of those things, but dont let yourself be overwhelmed.

Ive seen too many so called 'intermediate' guitarplayers who dont even master the basics the properly. Best guitarplayers Ive met in the local scene are really good at playing 'simple' stuff.

That mindset will also allow you not to be discouraged by instagram guitarists and keeps it fun

I do think learning some music theory is useful. Learn how chords are being built and how the triads are laid down over the neck for instance. It will help you navigate the fretboard. Thats something that takes years to really master, but its good to start with that as well as you are learning your first chords

[somber vault]

I have that set the Dunlop 2.0 is honestly my favorite one

[sharp temple]

Yo I had a question about a sound made in a song I like and a wanted someone’s opinion on how to make it

[lethal fractal]

Okay

[sharp temple]

At 1:48 how does he do that on guitar

https://open.spotify.com/track/5P55kp6SoiSRBnHFyqEk0K?si=RhiZs7bpQ7mxs7R3Jn7_3w

[lethal fractal]

The high pitch sounds after the tremolo

[sharp temple]

Yep

[lethal fractal]

It's just a bend higher up either pitch shifted or played past like the 12 fret on a lower string by the sounds of it.

[sharp temple]

Okay thank you I’ve been trying to figure that out

[lethal fractal]

I think that is how it is done

[thick delta]

i wanna do djent lol

which from what i know requires you to be good at basically everything

[lethal fractal]

Simple answer no

[thick delta]

what does it require then

[lethal fractal]

Just to know what the genre implements, it's pretty rhythm based in my opinion that's the biggest thing although if you want a pretty chorus then good chord and harmony theory is good though you should just always have a good theory foundation in my opinion.

[thick delta]

like where do i start tho

what should i learn

and how do i get better at rhythm since i suck at it

[lethal fractal]

Practice with a metronome and do subdivision practice. I actually take a lesson from a trumpet book i have. start slow working on quarter notes, 8th nots, 3rds, 16th notes, groupings of 5 up to usually 7 but can push it to 11 or whatever you want.
Start slow maybe 45bpm and then speed these up until you're comfortable with them and can hold a decent speed, then you can start adding rests to these rythms and mixing them together.

Though always practice with a metronome

Start with open and then you can start doing these with your scales, and then can write riffs.

Play with songs you like as well slow them down and write out where the notes land on beats I had to do that with some of sentinels rythms.

I would be willing to call someday and could talk over any questions on a call if you would find that easier as I know for most that can be more helpful.

[toxic wharf]

Dont know where you get that from...theres a lot of 'djent' out there and in its basis its very rhythm based like @lethal fractal explained. Unlike Conic I wouldnt say to practice as slow as 45 bpm. That actually is incredibly difficult to be really precise and is a good challenge in a few years. 70 to 80 bpm is a good starting point.

[thick delta]

thx for your help guys

i thought 45 sounded off lol

[wind mauve]

Gojira X announced

now we wait for nolly and abasi x in 2025

[fervent fox]

So anybody keeping an eye out on the new model guitars for this year? Ibanez seems to just have started showing off their sets (not impressed btw )

“Cheap and affordable” seems to be this years motif for them imo

[verbal fossil]

well it's not just announced it's out lmao

[wind mauve]

look

reading comprehension and crayon eating do not go hand in hand

i only do one

[lethal fractal]

Ah ya that is a good point... I just take my rhythm practice out of my Trumpet book and we start that slow so I just blurted it out.

[toxic wharf]

Yeah, nowadays I do sometines practice at like 60 bpm with a lot of 'rests' and see if I can land on specific off beats

Its good practice but you need to practice subdivisions first

[lethal fractal]

Ya it sure is...

[timid flicker]

Should I just go ahead and buy a sgr c-7 from schecter

Or wait for some new 2024 models

I liked the ibanez's new gio series

[lethal fractal]

@timid flicker
I'd wait for the new 2024 models although probably won't see much of a difference between them maybe something cool will come out, although in the end a nice guitar is a nice guitar and you have a lot of great options

[timid flicker]

Thanks!

Alright I'm going to 😴😴

[fervent fox]

I’d wait just to see this years new models….not sure who would go for that “razor” shaped guitar (MGK model) though

[lethal fractal]

Yea...

[wind mauve]

the MGK guitar is peak fr

🔥

[severe flume]

Papa Roach? "Cut my guitar into pieces this is my razor schecter"

[wind mauve]

i imagine holding it feels about similar to holding a cardboard box

i also imagine holding a cardboard box and pretending its a guitar might just be an overall more fun experience

[fervent fox]

What if it came in a coffin case?

[wind mauve]

look if it was like

judas priest

that shit'd be kinda cool

[kindred fjord]

is an amazon 100 dollar electric guitar a good idea? 1 star reviews say the strap is flimsy (i can go to a milsurp shop and get some M1907 sling), they also bring up the issue of factory strings snapping easy. aside from that, no comment on sound pickup or anything

outside of reviews it also doesnt come with an amp (im actually very fine with this! i was gonna get a cheap one to get a more darkthrone-y sound, along with a heavy metal distortion pedal!)

not jumping immediately into it (waiting to genuinely just memorize a few of my fav songs) however just wanting to know for reference

[golden hound]

First guitar? I don't know if buying a 1 start from amazan is a good idea lol. Check out a local music store for used guitars or save up some coin for a Squire.

[kindred fjord]

no i got one already

its an acoustic

hence the upgrade idea

uh

i dont have music stores by me

no surrounding towns have it for some reason

theres a pawn shop with electrics tho

[wind mauve]

that oughta work

do your research before buying

[kindred fjord]

aight

[regal hull]

put gold locking tuners on it

[scenic dune]

Holy shit

[spice hinge]

That looks amazing

[severe flume]

Yeah no i only buy music things on music only related websites like thomann etc

[golden hound]

Whats the black band at the top for? I've seen these recently but have no idea lol.

[wind mauve]

it eliminates string buzz without messing up the sound of the notes essentially

it's best used for recording when you want to absolutely ensure you get clean tracks without any random noise from accidentally touching another string

[golden hound]

gotcha

[quasi mirage]

The gold fits really well with the color scheme

[regal hull]

Yup thanks

[wind mauve]

i highly recommend not using that for practicing, or at least practicing eliminating unwanted noise on your own

for recording it's fine especially on PC cause you want clean DIs

[lethal fractal]

It is used to mute the strings behind the headstock you cant really practicing muting that well playing

[wind mauve]

??

just practice muting strings with the fingers you're not using or smth

[lethal fractal]

I want you to try and put a finger behind the nut well playing anywhere above the 6th fret.

You can't mute up there without something which is why so many people put foam or a fret wrap or a sock... behind the nut to mute the extra strings.

Also an advantage of headless guitars they don't have that extra string that can vibrate.

[wind mauve]

if they're vibrating that much behind the nut you didnt put em on right

[lethal fractal]

Not really... You are going to always have vibrations and even more without a locking nut.

When playing with enough gain it can ring through if you are trying to do very rhythmic chugs to panic cords where you have to mute a string fast you get all that vibration in the headstock and it can get picked up by the pickups it is a really really tiny amount but makes a difference and plays through which hinders muting noise gates are helpful but just muting the string leaves more room for a lower gate.

put your ear up to the headstock area and just strum the strings hard then mute the strings you will hear some noise being produced by the string behind the nut

[wind mauve]

you need like at least six more commas for that first paragraph to start making any sense, but yes; the strings above the headstock do make some noise. but if that noise doesn't cut through on my $400 ibanez, then quite frankly it shouldn't cut through on anything else

[lethal fractal]

If it did not cut through people would not use fret wraps or put foam behind the nut

[wind mauve]

see but i always see people using fret wraps cause they can't mute their strings when they tap or sweep

this is new information that i am only hearing from you

[lethal fractal]

A lot of custom-built tapping guitars will have something to mute the strings for the same reason, especially for 2-handed tapping. A lot of the old-school double-neck guitars have things to mute as well. As a human, you can only do so much as to why people have started making things to aid... Some people yes, do use it as they don't want to learn how to mute and think it will do it for them. When sweeping, if you can't mute, it doesn't matter if you have a fret wrap on; it will sound bad. When sweeping, you can mute the strings near where you are sweeping, and for most, that's higher up, though this still allows for vibrations closer to the headstock as well, which, as humans, we cannot mute, so people will move them just slightly over from the headstock to the neck to mute any minor vibrations.

The hand will mute certain frequencies as well where socks and what not usually are great for overtones.

[toxic wharf]

Fret wrap is different than a piece of foam to remove excess buzz which happens after the nut

I agree that you should remove a fret wrap, but theres nothing bad about keeping the foam behind the nut as it doesnt do the muting you do while normally playing

[abstract pawn]

I've been thinking about buying a 7 string guitar for a while now, I know what I want and the price range but idk what to buy, I've been thinking about some guitars but the reviews aren't that good and I want to go low without using a digital amp (I don't have one that's why)

I want to play some invent animate songs and some vildharja and humanities last breath stuff

[graceful socket]

For HLB you dont need a seven, it's all on a 6, tho baritone. New HLB album is in E-B-E-A-A#-A or close to that and then constantly pitch shifted around.

For everything else I am and stay a fan of Solar's A2.7. Midrange pricing for good quality and feel (at least from my limited experience with other guitars)

[abstract pawn]

Imma check that model out

That looks like niks guitar

Lel

[wind mauve]

[wind mauve]

nik's is an ernie ball music man

[abstract pawn]

I've been thinking about a sub zero 7 string guitar, but most of the reviews say it's a gamble its either a good guitar or a terrible one, some reviews said the finish was off, the neck was chipped and the nut was wacky

I don't really know what to do now tbh

Ahhhh

The price is pretty damn good for my budget and the electronics are good Idk if I should buy it cuz of the reviews

[golden hound]

Get one from a place with a good return policy?

[lethal fractal]

Pretty guitar

[balmy vortex]

Hardware looks corroded af ngl

Especially the pickup covers

[lethal fractal]

Fingerprints

I don't know why

[balmy vortex]

I know, employees don't clean the guitars after someone plays them

[lethal fractal]

No it's a small store but not small enough they don't clean after every play.

Although I plan on volunteering here for school... So I could start doing it

[dire kayak]

anyone know how to fix neck dive

I built this beautiful mockingbird kit and went all out on parts and it has neck dive

[lethal fractal]

Get a new guitar

Or get a new body

[dire kayak]

it's set neck

[lethal fractal]

Add a sandbag to the body

[dire kayak]

that might work since I already fucked up the finish

[lethal fractal]

You would need to relocate the strap buttons for better center of gravity though that's the proper way

[dire kayak]

cardinal red was. abad idea

you can see every error

[dire kayak]

alright I'll try that

[lethal fractal]

Probably some other ways

[balmy drift]

I know this is a late response, but OMG I HATE THIS
Just clean the damn things in between customers

[fervent fox]

New LTD model teasers! https://www.espguitars.com/articles/2018092-esp-all-access-exclusive-2024-new-guitar-bass-preview

I can’t keep my eyes off that Arrow-1007

[balmy vortex]

Exactly

[scenic dune]

So I have a shitty combo amp from 2004 and I just got a Joyo zombie 2, but still need a cabinet. I thought about buying the Joyo 1x8 but apparently they aren’t amazing. My aunts cousin told me his guitarist is trying to sell a peavey valveking 4x12 for $250 which seems like a good deal, but I’m more concerned with fitting that anywhere and about drowning out my bass player

I think a 2x12 would be more fitting since it could equally distribute sound between us all when we play

But as far as brand goes, I have no clue

[toxic wharf]

Drowning out the bass player in the band shouldnt be an issue. You can still control volume and a lot of work is done with the EQ

[scenic dune]

I thought that I’d maybe buy it off him, but there’s still the issue with transportation. I found a Seismic 2x12 cabinet tho and it has great reviews from what I’ve seen

[open fjord]

YES. Seismic 2x12s are great (I own one)!

[wispy flint]

anyone know a good budget baritone guitar

i know there's the harley benton ja baritone but it's currently out of stock

even if i can still buy it

actually scratch that, https://www.thomannmusic.com/harley_benton_baritone_7sb_dlx_series.htm

how is this?

[open fjord]

You want a Bari 7 string?

[wispy flint]

yep

im also looking at the one that's like

175

watching andrew baena review it before i decide to buy

this 175 7 string isnt a bari but it's pretty damn cool

[fervent fox]

What’s the budget?

[wispy flint]

atm 250

at the most

[fervent fox]

$250?

Some of the better baritones are above $500 so if you were to save just a bit more you’d have more better options

Or you can get lucky and buy used if available

[open fjord]

Agreed

[balmy vortex]

Also please get your guitar set-up by a professional if you don't know how to get it setup the way you want it

[dry parrot]

or you can learn

it takes a bit of practice but now i can set up my guitars perfectly, even floating tremolos

and i figured i save about 240 a year that way

if not more

floyd roses get costly to have a professional set up

other guitars i guess not as much but you should still learn

[scenic dune]

What kind of head do you use for it?

[open fjord]

I've put a number of heads through it. Blackstar HT5 and HT Studio 20, Orange Micro Terror, H&K Tubemeister 18, I even used my Studio 20 as a power amp slave for my Neural plugins. It worked great for all of em. Ultimately it all depends on the speaker you use for it.

[scenic dune]

I plan on using a Joyo Zombie 2 for it. I started out with my uncles old Esteban G10 from 2004, but it was sitting in his garage for years cuz he had an acoustic electric for it, but it got stolen and the guy that stole it didn’t take the amp

[open fjord]

Joyo Zombie is niceee. I've been a Rectifier guy for a long time and have used many iterations of them. But I haven't put one through my Seismic.

[scenic dune]

The 2x12 I want is on sell for $215 rn and I wanna get it, but I only got $230 rn and I’d have almost nothing left until Thursday when I get paid

[open fjord]

Then I'd say wait on it. Seismic cabs are great for the money and really cheap compared to other name brands. Especially if your gonna put your own speakers in em. The only other company that is great on a budget for cabs is Harley Benton.

[scenic dune]

Have you used a Harley Benton cab before? And if so, what would you say is better in terms of sound quality, HB or Seismic?

[open fjord]

I personally haven't used a Harley Benton cab before. But I have friends in Agufish's server who have and they all like em.

[timid flicker]

I need some iems ,any recommendations?

[open fjord]

IEMS?

[timid flicker]

In ear monitors

[open fjord]

Ohhh

Sorry can't help there.

Never used em before.

[balmy vortex]

Budget?

[timid flicker]

Im currently looking at the truthear zero reds

So around 50-60 dollars

(waifu needed)

[balmy vortex]

Reds

They're by far the best for the money

[timid flicker]

Exactly the one I was thinking of buying

So I'll just save up and steal some money to buy em

[balmy vortex]

In the audiophile world I'm in they're regarded as the best for the money

The one up from those is the Sennheiser ie200

[timid flicker]

Nah

Sennheiser ain't got the waifu

Im also an audiophile but I know more about headphones rather than IEMs

Been using the beyerdynamic dt 990s since the last 4 years

And they are the best.

[balmy vortex]

[open fjord]

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/gear/aristides_launch_first-ever_multiscale_evertune_bridge_guitar_based_on_spiritboxs_mike_stringer_prototype__namm_2024.html?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2YqWWOLbqXVtjWeY33aQcJ9J4z7PCA5Gn8NGRPxa9dJCwyMRHSku1JCFU#Echobox=1705145259

[balmy vortex]

I run the big brothers of those, dt1990pro

[balmy vortex]

Lol, I knew about this like 2-3 months before the article

[timid flicker]

Damnnn

Same

On Instagram

Right

[balmy vortex]

I didn't, my best friend works for aristides

Knew it from before insta

[timid flicker]

Woah

That's insane

[balmy vortex]

I got all the insider info

[balmy vortex]

Even got first dibs on a limited amplifier and shits guud

Shits guud

[timid flicker]

Alr I'll talk later

Going home

[balmy vortex]

[timid flicker]

House.

[wind mauve]

hoose

[lone anchor]

@balmy vortex jackson 7 strings are literally fine

i’ve had mine for a year and a half and the only issue i’ve ever had with it is the sustain

[balmy vortex]

we have to send too many back, i cant recommend them

[lone anchor]

first i’ve ever heard of it

[balmy vortex]

we've sent back custom shops as well

we're quite anal when it comes to how we setup our guitars and if they cant do that then theyre going back

[crystal cedar]

I’m getting a 7 string guitar in an hour. What string guage is recommended for drop a - drop f?

[balmy vortex]

One of the two, not both. Choose one

[fervent fox]

…or get a Drop pedal if available

[crystal cedar]

I mean I go drop F on my 6 string all the time, so what’s different about a 7 string?

[balmy vortex]

The difference is you can't really go between drop f and drop a with a single set of strings

[crystal cedar]

Ahhhh I gotcha

So what about drop a then?

[balmy vortex]

For drop a I'd usually go 10-58

[lethal fractal]

Whats your scale length?
Also yes I agree with 10-58 for the average 7 string.

[crystal cedar]

is 56 good? because thats the closest they had

[lethal fractal]

10-56 will be fine, even 9-56
Really depends on your scale length and what you prefer

[keen pulsar]

Dude I go down to Drop G on a 12-63 with a Les Paul

Can't be much further from what the purists have imagined

Probably going to change the pickups with EMG's

So I commit more blasphemy

[ancient path]

is through the fire and the flames intro riff as difficult as it sounds?

[lethal fractal]

Yes and no the tremolo picking is easier keeping in time with the whammy parts can be a bit harder

Depends on your skill set

[ancient path]

shit i dont got no whammy

[scenic dune]

Do y’all have any good recommendations for effects to pair with a distortion for a melodic tone?

Something tear jerkingly beautiful

[fervent fox]

Can’t go wrong with a Chorus and Reverb effect

[toxic wharf]

Delay

[scenic dune]

I got this zoom multistomp pedal that I wanna add some effects to that’ll pair well with my distortion

[scenic dune]

Ight I got this badass reverse delay sound

[timid flicker]

What are some good budget 7 string guitars?

I'll buy one soon

[abstract pawn]

Same

I've been trying to find one for the last 2 weeks and i still haven found anything that suits the style I want to play, I got some picks but I'm not sure yet

[scenic dune]

Found this for $200

[toxic wharf]

Havent you been saying that for the last couple o months?

[timid flicker]

😭😭

I have been saving money

[toxic wharf]

How long you play?

[timid flicker]

Just about to complete a year

[toxic wharf]

Depending on that I will just keep saving and buy a decent midrange one

No use to buy a 200 dollar guitar in my experience if you play a lot

[timid flicker]

I have a budget till 400$

[toxic wharf]

Cant wait and save to 300-400 more?

It depends on how you play

If you jam a bit in your room amd dont record or play with others its not a big deal

But especially for a decent extended range up to 500 tends to be the regret category

[timid flicker]

Why so?

[toxic wharf]

The fast fashion of guitars

In another year you will feel you could have gotten something better

[timid flicker]

Ohhhh

[toxic wharf]

Wasted 500 dollars

Could have saved 300 euros more

[timid flicker]

Wb that new ibanez 2024 7 string

[toxic wharf]

Just like any brand...below the midrange they dont give a damn about QC

For acoustics its generally oke

[timid flicker]

Hold on I'll send the model

[toxic wharf]

I have had no issues with Ibanez 300 dollar acoustic guitars

[timid flicker]

Ignore the volume thingy lol

[scenic dune]

Too bad I can’t take a computer to a show

[toxic wharf]

Id still save up

[timid flicker]

But thas the rg standard series

[toxic wharf]

But like I said...I dont know your situation

Yeah but the specs are budget

[timid flicker]

Ok soo I have these two and a schecter sgr c7 in mind

[toxic wharf]

Seems like the gap between a gio and this is smaller than this and their 800-900 dollar range

Not a fan of schecter but Im sure theres others who think differently

How much do you play and what do you want from your guitar?

[timid flicker]

I play around 3-4 hours per day currently and what I want from my guitar hmm

I guess good tuning and a few gimmicks

Thin profile neck

Honestly even if it works properly it's fine

Any issue I will fix

[toxic wharf]

So overall quality does not really seem an issue for you

Than I would just go for it

If you play gigs or record or some stuff the saying go cheap and go broke is quite applicable

[timid flicker]

Wut

I didnt understand what that meant

Anyways ima go steal some cash🌚🌚🌚

Need to save up hehe

[toxic wharf]

Just that you notice all the flaws of cheap gear amd if youre not willing to save, you keep buying

[timid flicker]

Ohh

I mean the guitar culture here is different tho

[toxic wharf]

I sometimes see people saying 'yeah Ill just upgrade with new pick ups or whatever' but its polishong a turd

[timid flicker]

Half of the guitars price is made by tax.

[toxic wharf]

Its not gonna help the fretwork

[timid flicker]

Pickups dont matter

[toxic wharf]

Lol ok

[timid flicker]

For high gain atleast

[toxic wharf]

If you are really really thinking that you can buy whatever guitar below 400 you want

I can definitely hear amd feel differences so to me it matters

[timid flicker]

Im going to a music store tomorrow

I'll try two of the budget guitars and two midrange

Anything I should look out for

[toxic wharf]

I dont know

Seems like anything would do

[timid flicker]

Eh

Guitar is guitar for me

[toxic wharf]

There you go.

[timid flicker]

String make vibration = all ok.

[toxic wharf]

So just buy whatever you like

[timid flicker]

Thx

[toxic wharf]

Anyways, anyone here experience with Aristides?

I dont see the option of having a push pull function for coil splitting

With the Abasi Fishman pick ups

[graceful socket]

Dont have experience but afaik you can add stuff like that when specifying what you want. There should be an open field at the bottom of the order page where you can give extra instructions - at least there used to be

[toxic wharf]

Yeah, there is an open field. But you can select the pick up selection (volume and knob options), but theres no option for coil splitting and voicing options, while I do know that with most guitars having the Abasi's this is quite standard. So Im wondering if I should state it explicitly. Perhaps I should just contact them.

[digital mesa]

pretty sure you're meant to select Custom Electonics Placement and then specify that in the Special Electronics requests

[wind mauve]

NOT THE TEMU FLOATING BRIDGE BRO NOOOOO 😭😭😭😭😭

[fervent fox]

Is that suppose to help out with restringing a locking trem?

[toxic wharf]

Its not really touching the intonation screws....stupid tool either way.

Who puts a plate like that on their guitar body lmao....

Also its a stupid idea for a tremblock, as its not gonna be helping the tuning of the guitar.

[gritty garden]

I mean I can see the point if you change all the strings, but with a Floyd I'd probably only do one at a time for ease.

[toxic wharf]

I do all at once, but I got pretty handy with it. I just use wedges in the back.

And than tune the guitar largely with the back springs first.

[golden hound]

Maybe I'm a newb, but I don't really see that piece's purpose.

[lethal fractal]

The Temu thing is just a money grab

[golden hound]

ah ya ok.. that's sort of what I was thinking.

[lethal fractal]

Yea

[toxic wharf]

It would keep the floating trem bridge from falling into the cavity, but theres better ways to keep a floating system from moving while changing the strings

According to the description it would operate as a tremol-no, but doubt it would be any good

[unreal rivet]

Midi guitar is tough, how can I get it to sound good 😭

[lethal fractal]

Real guitar :)

[unreal rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/sideeye-boy-ifyoudontgetit-thinking-hmm-gif-974696070639012863

[lethal fractal]

Hehe

[ancient path]

bro anyone here good at figuring out riff by ear?

[lethal fractal]

Sorta

[ancient path]

https://youtu.be/nBogZzeT7dk?si=e0SM-QU4NsiYdL44&t=85

the timestampped tremolo riff

drop a ofc

[lethal fractal]

Let me first ask have you put some time into trying to figure it out already?

[ancient path]

uhh i think it starts on the 5th fret a string

then uhh

[fervent fox]

If there’s no tabs or guitar covers and you seem to know the tuning the song is in then, realistically, you have to sit and play to certain sections of the song before putting it all together. This is how you learn by ear. Just gotta practice until you figure it out.

[lethal fractal]

^

[timid flicker]

My ego has been inflated.

One of the first music man sterling models in india

And I was the first person to play it (in India)

😎😎😎

[verbal fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-shocked-thank-you-thanks-shock-gif-18289887

[coarse condor]

yep thats beautiful

[timid flicker]

It costs 1.4 lacs

₹ ofc

[wind mauve]

why you holdin it by the donger

[timid flicker]

Im stupid

[toxic wharf]

Its a sterling Petrucci, so even here its about 1.4K euro

Granted, Ive heard some stuff about Sterlings that make me hesistant to slap down that dough but still

[timid flicker]

It was amazing

At least for me

I see what you meant with expensive gear

[lethal fractal]

They are nice guitars if nothing is going wrong sound good and feel good to me played a couple so far I'm waiting for the 8 string to come in I want to try it out.

[timid flicker]

8 string is too much for me xd

Ok I'm gonna go practice now

[lethal fractal]

8 feels good for me but didn't have everything I wanted so added a string... Been a pain in the butt to learn.

[lethal fractal]

Have a good session

[timid flicker]

Thanks

[lethal fractal]

I'm going to practice after I eat as well

[wind mauve]

im going to eat my guitar for practice

[fervent fox]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-peter-guitar-peter-griffin-guitar-peter-griffin-eating-guitar-gif-25111080

[dry parrot]

i finally got a run through that didnt suck for tornado of souls

[wintry nova]

Noice

[gritty garden]

Yeah and that's only the mid - upper mid price range. Admittedly the returns start diminishing once you start going above that price and you're paying for the small details like more human elements during the production/finishing. So in terms of what you see different on the end product it's not much different, but it has a subtle difference in how it feels/plays.

[timid flicker]

Guess my goal is to get a music man one day

[gritty garden]

I mean I think Music Man's are heavily overpriced, don't look that great imho, and the only one I really like the look of is a Kaizen - however I've not really played one. I'd just rather save the extra £1K to £2K and just buy another ESP E-II model

[toxic wharf]

I mean, yeah they might be 'overpriced' in what you will get in the end, but Ernie Ball, compared to many other brands is quite inventive of what a 'traditional' guitar can be. Especially when it comes to the Kaizen, but also the JP models.

[gritty garden]

For an average joe like me, definitely lol

[toxic wharf]

yeah I mean...they are very expensive.

[gritty garden]

I just think of them as like the Super/Hypercars of the guitar world

[toxic wharf]

But you get an absolutely great piece of gear for it in return. I do agree that the argument can be made that the quality/price balance for other brands is better.

[toxic wharf]

Yes! I would agree.

[gritty garden]

Like would it be nice to own one, yes. Am I going to squeeze anywhere near the limit of it's capability... hell no. Lol

[toxic wharf]

What car category would other brands be?

[gritty garden]

I see like ESP - EII's being like mid to upper range BMWs/Audis

Fender Strats and Gibson Les Paul's being like your Jaguar and Austin Martins of the world

[toxic wharf]

Legator is like Alfa Romeo, some are very expensive, some are in the (upper) mid price range, but you can be sure its not as reliable as it should be.

[gritty garden]

Ibanez is like your Hot Hatch brand. They do basic models for dirt cheap but also do some spicy models at the top end

[toxic wharf]

PRS is a Bentley.

You get what other car brands do, but in a luxury packaging.

[gritty garden]

I mean I already don't think I'm worthy of the E-II I own or the Kiesel, but I think most people are like that

[toxic wharf]

Anyone who plays guitar, should treat themselves with the guitar they really want, no matter skill level imo.

[gritty garden]

I don't even use my QC to it's full potential. It just made sense vs buying several amp heads I don't have room for

[toxic wharf]

I mean, theres too much you can do with the quad cortex. Probably even touring guitarists use it to its fullest potential. I think this is even more so with the Axe FX III which has even more capabilities (except the profiling function)

[timid flicker]

Ola englund pinned my comment lol

[balmy vortex]

1.4k is around the middle of mid range. 2k usually where I call it to the starting point of high end range

A lot under 2k is still import models from Indonesia or Korea

Except FGN but that brand is on a whole different level

[balmy vortex]

Depends on which range of PRS you're talking about

Core series sure, but private stock is the Rolls Royce of guitars currently. Out of the bigger name brands that is

[balmy vortex]

Yes and people should stop thinking it

I mean there are boomers out there spending close to 10 grand on a Gibson @gritty garden all of which you can out play most of the time

[gritty garden]

Lmao true

[balmy vortex]

Also, E-II is by far the better option compared to kiesel

[lethal fractal]

I'm willing to spend 7.5k on a guitar more then that I don't think it's worth it that much, one of the servers I was in a custom builder was selling a guitar for 41k and it was ugly its now bow lowered to like 20k so idk what's going on with that

[gritty garden]

Wow more than I'm willing and I can spend that much

[balmy vortex]

Yeah nah

[lethal fractal]

https://reverb.com/item/78120475-masterbuilt-ergal-7-string-fanned-points-and-lines-edition-by-gb-liuteria

I lied not from a builder I didn't really look at it

[balmy vortex]

If it's that expensive it'll have very tough competition a lá rick toone

[lethal fractal]

I hate the knob placements

[balmy vortex]

It's not the worst

Arguably better than most rg's and strats

[lethal fractal]

For strumming they are fine but for playing with they are to close together

[balmy vortex]

But for that money you can have a PRS Private stock which'll be exactly how you'd want it

[lethal fractal]

Ya

[balmy vortex]

Or even a Rick toone spearfish

[lethal fractal]

Or just that ninja turtle guitar

[balmy vortex]

[lethal fractal]

I really hate how the back of it looks that neck is eww

[balmy vortex]

Green is difficult to get right lmao

[lethal fractal]

Andrew Baena has entered the chat

[balmy vortex]

[lethal fractal]

The vidoe posted with the listing doesn't even play for like 30 seconds

[balmy vortex]

Yeah nah, I can think of quite a few better builders for a very exceptional guitar

[toxic wharf]

Bulky, for collectors and not meant for people who know how to handle a car on track?

Sure, but also a bit harsh on PRS

[balmy vortex]

Rolls' are used as dailies lol

[wind mauve]

potentially strange question but is it possible to convert six strings to sevens

i have a horrible, hellish idea

[lethal fractal]

Yes

[gritty garden]

You can, but just because you can doesn't mean you should as they need the extra width on the neck

[lethal fractal]

Would need a new neck new bridge new pickups but could keep the body

[wind mauve]

interesting

[balmy vortex]

You can, not recommended

[toxic wharf]

I suppose you'd also need a new headstock to accomodate the extra tuning peg.

Depending on the headstock.

[gritty garden]

Wider saddle too for the extra string

[toxic wharf]

All the money you'd have to put down to make it decent...

[lethal fractal]

Feel like this should come with the neck

[toxic wharf]

Its almost like you could buy a new guitar.

[toxic wharf]

Theres headless guitars, but they do have a neck!

That be crazy right.

[lethal fractal]

I... hmm

[wind mauve]

this isn't a project i would start anytime soon

but i figured

at least one cursed guitar would be nice for the collection

"hey what's that?"
"oh that's my EVH5150 i modified into a 7-string baritone wanna hear it?"
"i want to leave as soon as possible"

[lethal fractal]

Just steal one of Bernth like 6 neck guitars

That have rubber bands

[toxic wharf]

Just buy a Dean

[wind mauve]

what in the goddamn hellfuckshit is that

i think i just threw up a little in my mouth

[toxic wharf]

It fits Doyle tho

Dont hate cause we cant pull it off, but he can.

[lethal fractal]

Would be fun to spin around well holding

[wind mauve]

ok wait this is actually kinda cool

i could rock that

[toxic wharf]

Looks good.

[wind mauve]

1449 USD is

a bit above the price range of the other ones i was lookin at

[lethal fractal]

I should go break into my friends has and take like 10 guitars he honestly wouldn't notice he has to many

[gritty garden]

Would rather the similar looking Axion Label one

[wind mauve]

ooh thats true

and this one's only 25.5

this one also wasn't too bad looking but i really dunno if i need a new 6 string

i can basically get away with everything on a 7

[toxic wharf]

Also has Bareknuckles

[lethal fractal]

I don't like that headstock it's like the Jackson/kramers and I don't like them

[wind mauve]

jesus

[lethal fractal]

That's what I think of when Dean is said

[wind mauve]

im not about it

[wind mauve]

i am about this tho

add that to the list rq

[gritty garden]

I've never been about Dean guitars

[toxic wharf]

But...but....'MURICA

[wind mauve]

https://youtu.be/4N9DGcbjoVE

lowkey

it's a lot more expensive than the legator or the other axion label and isn't fanned/multiscale

[lethal fractal]

I like ibanez always will

[toxic wharf]

Lee Wrathe can make a turd sound good tho.

[lethal fractal]

All my guitar that go into an amp are ibanez

[wind mauve]

26.5" scale

could probably get a clean drop G with that

[gritty garden]

They do well and make some good guitars, just the shapes are usually a little off for me. I just prefer other brands

[lethal fractal]

Drop A0 that's what I play 0_0

[toxic wharf]

I love Ibanez too, but dislike their typical marketing mumbo jumbo...'sub zero treated frets' aka we didnt wanna put stainless steel frets on it.

[lethal fractal]

I just like the necks my biggest thing.

[wind mauve]

well i need at least a standard on 7 strings to play trivium

drop g is just a standard dropped

[lethal fractal]

Fair.

[wind mauve]

and psycho-frame plays drop g so between trivium and psycho-frame that's my range covered

[toxic wharf]

With 26.5 you can easily go to drop G

[wind mauve]

ez shit

imma add this to the list

[lethal fractal]

0.001 gauge strings

[toxic wharf]

I havent gone below drop A for 2 years by now.

And drop C on 6 string.

[lethal fractal]

Go an octave below and you can play my range

[toxic wharf]

Not interested lol

[lethal fractal]

But the massive big 13 cords and all ofnthat

[toxic wharf]

8 string standard tuning is my max.

[lethal fractal]

Fair

[toxic wharf]

On a 9 string? Rather not play a chord like that....low interval limits and sounding like crap

[lethal fractal]

Ya :(
Though you can do some cool broken and big arpeggios

[toxic wharf]

You could play an open C# and play chords on the higher 6 strings, but ultimately its gonna sound out of tune to my ear.

[lethal fractal]

For sure... it's been interesting learning 9 string to say the least it's so different

I'm still trying to tab out that one 9 string thing I was sharing

[balmy vortex]

Speak of the devil, we just got new Prestiges in.

[lethal fractal]

https://youtu.be/hTshhL-OVLw?si=LEjBqzHswHd_BpId

This is so good

[balmy vortex]

MOAR ibby's

[lethal fractal]

Nice

[toxic wharf]

Pia is absolutely stunning.

[balmy vortex]

Onyx black is one of the best colours

[toxic wharf]

Is that a Lari Basilio signature?

Top left

Thats gorgeous as well.

You can say what you want, but they make some tasteful looking guitars.

[balmy vortex]

Yup

[toxic wharf]

Steve Vai needs an archetype.

[balmy vortex]

Perhaps, I'm not too bothered with his stuff tbh

[toxic wharf]

It would be a disgrace if he didnt get approached before Rabea

Or a Tim Henson.

[balmy vortex]

He probably has been, but the requirements of his archetype would be enormous

[toxic wharf]

Or others who got an Archetype...except for maybe Petrucci.

[balmy vortex]

I'd say we need more amp specific archetypes for a Cheaper price imo

[toxic wharf]

I mean, yes. Because the suites they offer now are way too expensive and you are better off just buying an archetype with 3 amps and whatnot

But at the same time, they basically release the same thing over and over, so it would be good if they start reinventing themselves a bit more.

[balmy vortex]

Exactly. Perhaps stuff like a mezzabarba, or a Friedman/bogner suite

[lethal fractal]

This

This

This

This

This

This

This

[balmy vortex]

[lethal fractal]

Okay I'm done

[balmy vortex]

Nice spam

[toxic wharf]

Theres a Friedman in the Plini archetype, but a specific suite would be great...also Bogner of course.

[balmy vortex]

A bogner ubershall or ecstacy

[lethal fractal]

I would much prefer specific amp models rather then the archytypes but that's where the QC comes in they want people to buy the QC

[toxic wharf]

Im kinda done with the 5150 clones.

[toxic wharf]

Honestly think they make more bank from the plugins.

[balmy vortex]

Or perhaps Engl amps as well

[toxic wharf]

Hence they are so slow with the improvements on the QC

And chug out a plugin every month.

[lethal fractal]

They would but who knows

Maybe they got a little magic gnome doing some stuff

[toxic wharf]

Im just waiting for a new company to do something new.

Quad Cortex still has a lot too offer and the plugins are clearly great for what they are, but Im definitely fatiqued of them.

[lethal fractal]

I really like DSP just due to now familiar with them and wouldn't want to switch to something new I'd prefer more stuff like that... I mean I still want just real cabs and amps to mod and play around with rather then digital but digital is so much easier

[toxic wharf]

I dont know...real amps are like museum pieces to me...very nice to have, but mainly because they are dissapearing.

[lethal fractal]

Yea

[toxic wharf]

Power tubes are not gonna be mass-produced for much longer, so its a dying breed.

[lethal fractal]

Ya

They are nice to snuggle up to, to stay warm 0_0

[balmy vortex]

Luckily they last for a long ass time if you're relatively careful with them

[toxic wharf]

Yes, thats for sure.

[wind mauve]

there was Otto Audio

they sponsored Baena

i grabbed a free trial of their stuff but i wasn't convinced

keep in mind that both of these are supposed to sound like a 5150

[toxic wharf]

I think thats also a problem. Every company releasing this stuff is just slapping down the 5150 model on it to sell it to the metalkids. I mean something more refreshing.

[wind mauve]

tbf the otto one is supposed to sound like a lot of things

[toxic wharf]

Like that Mixwave thing with Mike Stringer seemed pretty interesting in concept

[wind mauve]

i just picked the preset that was under "amp clone -> stealth III"

[wind mauve]

i used that as well and it just didn't sound as good as the nDSP stuff

like it was good but i already owned better by that time

[toxic wharf]

Maybe 5 years from now people will just go back to physical modellers

[wind mauve]

i'm already considering it

an axe fx would probably be better than any computer software

[toxic wharf]

You spend 500 dollars on a few decent plugins

[wind mauve]

it would also cost as much as the guitars i want

but then again buying an actual 5150 or peavey 6505 amp head + cab

that's like 2k minimum

[open fjord]

I think Mixwave Mike Stringer sound just as good and the NDSP stuff. It's just the amps they were modeling didn't interest me. It's just Mixwave's Archetype Nolly.

But then again I'm not particularly surprised. The 5150 has become the default amp of most modern metal bands.

At least in metalcore.

[toxic wharf]

It needs to stop. The whole genre is turning into a family guy joke.

When its done once, you have to make sure its being repeated over and over and over and over and over.

Do some other amps good amps

Granted Neural did the Morgan amp, which is overall underappreciated

It would be great if Neural focussed on pedal modelling and allows to switch pedals inside the archetypes/suites or something.

[open fjord]

I mean it's not necessarily a bad thing. Certain amps are sort of associated with certain genres.

Orange Rockerverb - Sludge, Doom
Mesa Rectifier - Nu Metal, Alternative, Industrial
Marshall JCM800 - 80s Hair Metal, Thrash, Punk

These are just general examples, and these amps obviously have crossed into other genres but generally speaking are associated with these styles.

[balmy vortex]

Recto/5150 can be interchanged there

[open fjord]

True

Point was its not a bad thing where an amp finds its sound in a specific genre.

[balmy vortex]

Very true

[open fjord]

I mean the most used amp in history is the Fender Twin.

[balmy vortex]

Also to add there:

ENGL Fireball 100: death metal

[open fjord]

I don't listen to death metal so I wouldn't know lol

[balmy vortex]

Engl does that sound too good imo

But also, Engl stack goes hard

[open fjord]

Damn

That does go hard

[balmy vortex]

Richie blackmore, artist edition Axe Palace and 2 founders editions

From bottom to top

[balmy vortex]

Gotta shill out our own voiced Engl amp a bit

[open fjord]

Kek

[balmy vortex]

1 of 15 for a pretty reasonable price imo

1699€ iirc

[open fjord]

Then I find there are amps that transcend genre.

Like the Mesa Mark.

[balmy vortex]

Bogner ecstacy, bad cat jet black, soldano slo-100

[toxic wharf]

Also Uberschall

[balmy vortex]

Ubershall is sick af tho the ultra-ubershall goes harder

[toxic wharf]

Dumble

[balmy vortex]

Overpriced tho

Af

[toxic wharf]

True

[open fjord]

I actually find the Bogner stuff in the Alternative scene a lot actually.

One of the more famous examples being Mark Tremonti's use of the Uberschall.

[toxic wharf]

Yeah, but its also used a lot in blues, rock

[toxic wharf]

That man used all amps that exist

Until his new PRS amp.

[balmy vortex]

It's a great amp for everything

[toxic wharf]

Also great amps by the way

The PRS stuff

Diezel

Mostly high gain tho. I think could be used for a good death metal sound as well

[open fjord]

I got to play a PRS Archon once.

[balmy vortex]

Diezel vh4 is amazing

[balmy vortex]

A USA in or a Chinese one?

[toxic wharf]

Its great. Like a more versatile Friedman imo.

[balmy vortex]

Well we have the jj100 for that

[toxic wharf]

Still think I would prefer the Archon.