Guitars & Bass

[wind mauve]

i see

[toxic wharf]

Same for the Abasi Legions

And their prices shouldnt justify that

[wind mauve]

the one thing that stood out to me was in a video comparing legator guitars to their equivalents from other manufacturers

so a budget legator and budget Ibanez for example

[toxic wharf]

I can live with it for midpriced 800 dollar Ibanez or LTD guitars that theres something a bit off

[wind mauve]

the standout point comparing the headless legator to the strandberg was “this guitar costs €900 and the strandberg costs €1600”

[toxic wharf]

But past 1500-1800 it shouldnt be the case

[wind mauve]

fair points all around

[lethal fractal]

I want an aristides with an faned fret evertune 9 string

[toxic wharf]

Man...10 years ago I bought an Ibanez prestige for 1500. Those were the days

[wind mauve]

here’s hoping I can get a decent job soon after college and buy a $1500 guitar all my own

[toxic wharf]

Still the smoothest shit Ive played alongside the Kaizen that I tried

Yeah and hope the markets change for the better

That prestige would be 2500 dollars now

[wind mauve]

alternatively, considering i’m going into welding, i can pray for a really good job and save up for a year or so and grab a higher end guitar at the next step up

[toxic wharf]

That sounds like a proper plan

[wind mauve]

was looking at the high end legator ghosts that come stock with fishmans and killswitches and the like and it’s like, double the price, but then wouldn’t it be worth it cause i’d be buyin fishmans for an extra like $200 or $300 anyways right

might as well get something cooler looking with better construction from the more consistent Japanese lines

with more features and the shit i want built in

[toxic wharf]

Generally once youve held Japanese built guitars you wont wanna go back

The fretwork tends to be emaculate

Ive really noticed a difference and I fins it off putting now where guitars dont get the same fret treatment and just roll off the factory line as is

[wind mauve]

and like it just is such a sexy design

but also

$3k

[toxic wharf]

I do prefer the Strandberg design tbh

[wind mauve]

these shapes are closer to the Ibanez RGs which is what i’m most used to

[toxic wharf]

I miss the Ibanez headstock lmao

Dig that color tho

Especially with the white pick ups

[wind mauve]

both my current guitars are black so im inclined to go for something different

[blissful flume]

yeah that colors nice, i just wish the fret board was a darker color

[wind mauve]

but this particular model is only available in white

they have a lot of burl finishes for the other models tho

[toxic wharf]

Same, tend to go for ebony boards myself.

[toxic wharf]

Can be cool but on most metal guutars ive seen with burls its just off putting

[blissful flume]

yeah, i think they can look nice but if the guitar is white i personally think a darker one contrasts it better

[toxic wharf]

The plain white is class

[wind mauve]

“ok guys we’re doing a new variant what should we finish it with”

also the blue one is a new model i’ve not seen before

[toxic wharf]

Yes and quite easy to maintain. Before I used rosewood but prohibited

[wind mauve]

it’s not fanned fret which looks really weird

[toxic wharf]

🤮

[wind mauve]

ok i thought the red one was kinda cool actually…

still prefer the plain white but like

[blissful flume]

ngl i don’t know anything about maintaining it💀 (im very new to guitar) i just like the looks better

[wind mauve]

the blue one is just especially off putting

[toxic wharf]

To me the blue color is great

[wind mauve]

because every legator ghost is slanted

[toxic wharf]

The red one is just horrible finish

Also on the neck

[wind mauve]

the tuning pegs, the pickups, the fanned frets

so seeing a perfectly level everything on a ghost is like

weird

[toxic wharf]

Its just like turning a tree suffering from some molded wood into a guitar

[wind mauve]

what’s odd is that that model is actually the higher end ghost

[toxic wharf]

I like bold finishes but at least make it classy

I think PRS has the best finishes

[wind mauve]

same price and features as the white one, the white one is just a special edition model

[toxic wharf]

Also Ibanez has some great finishes and Jackson

[wind mauve]

this is the other one i was lookin at, the standard model

[blissful flume]

the way the pickups aren’t equally sticking out on both sides of the red one

[toxic wharf]

And Abasi concepts

[wind mauve]

ibanez’ burls aren’t great either lol

[toxic wharf]

Looks great

[blissful flume]

i don’t know if that’s how it has to be arranged or what but that annoys me

[toxic wharf]

Still think they should have gone for a slightly different body shape

[toxic wharf]

Hmm I dont think Ive seen anything horribly off putting yet

[wind mauve]

I typed in the wrong letter in the name

[toxic wharf]

Ah yes

[wind mauve]

and ended up with I shit you not an airline flight code

[toxic wharf]

Not too keen on the finish

[wind mauve]

the brighter ones look like skin masks

[toxic wharf]

Still like it miles better than the red legator

[wind mauve]

fair

the legator is cheaper and has fanned frets tho

I mean unless i go for the $3k one but

[toxic wharf]

Yeah, seems to much

You are basically paying extra for the headless design compared to more inventive brands

[wind mauve]

basically

it’s the same price as the axiom label RG that has fanned frets, 27” scale, fishmans

but it’s headless and has custom Ibanez pickups and only 25.5”

but they got ichika for the commercial

[toxic wharf]

Ichika plays mostly in standard tuning like a big boy

[wind mauve]

oh yeah well ichika… uh um

i got nothin

[toxic wharf]

[wind mauve]

can’t even say he looks like a girl cause of the long hair cause he’s hot its not fair man

but yeah so i’m either buying the cheaper legator and putting fishmans in, totalling a similar price to the Ibanez, or i’m buying the more expensive legator with fishmans already in and a kill switch and then i can pretend like i’m a sixteenth as good as the berried alive guy

that or by the time i can afford it something way cooler comes out

[toxic wharf]

That guy uses a lot of post processing

I hate his style and the fact a lot of it is just post processing and than presents it as show-offy guitar tricks

[toxic wharf]

Also go for the Abasi Fishmans

[wind mauve]

matt heafy fishmans*

although admittedly the Abasi ones are way more aesthetic

(and realistically don’t sound any different)

in person the black heafy fishmans are more of a really dark grey so if i got the white guitar they’d just look off, and i’m not terrible convinced with white pickups on a white guitar tbh

[lethal fractal]

Seiji igusa always has some if the most random interesting guitar vids

Thoughts on Vola guitars been seeing more about them probably never will own one but they seem interesting

[severe flume]

dayum that's thin af

i feel like bamboo is stronger than your picks

[lethal fractal]

I gave some 0.46mm Picks

[severe flume]

dude tf

the thinnest picks i play with are like 1.14mm

[toxic wharf]

On acoustic hard picks sound like shit

Takes away too much warmth.

[severe flume]

idk i don't play acoustic

[toxic wharf]

Well I play Jazz III Xl's on electric which are 1.37 or something

[balmy vortex]

i usually go jazz III 0.88mm

a nice and bouncy with decent attack gets my speed up there

[severe flume]

duuude i hate bouncy picks

[balmy vortex]

i love it for when im downpicking, gets me some extraspeed

sometimes gets me up to 220-230bpm

[severe flume]

https://tenor.com/view/metallica-james-hetfield-gif-21707407

Hetfield approves

[lethal fractal]

I have an acoustic from before ww1 one of the best sounding acoustics I have played needs some work though... I typically play on a 3.5mm pick for electric.

[severe flume]

thicc pick

i play with a 1.14mm for electric and titanium 3.00mm for bass

[lethal fractal]

Fair I play mainly finger only for bass

[ancient path]

Corers

How to make big af Killswitch Engage-y chorus?

[timid flicker]

The red and black blend nicely

Never really understood headless guitars though

[balmy vortex]

Harmonic minor lead over some big chords like every other metalcore band from the '10s

Followed by a breakdown

[wind mauve]

generally the reason is to reduce weight allowing for more comfortable playing, especially because the major weight point is in the body of the guitar which will generally be in a stable position. there’s some other benefits, like no chance of your guitar breaking there as is common during travel, and some sort of science thing involving having less extra string leading to better intonation or something

personally i don’t care bout all dat i just think they look cool

[timid flicker]

true

[balmy vortex]

Fyi not every headless is light weight. We had a mayones hydra 7 elite here which was close if not more than 4kg

[wind mauve]

sounds like you need to go to the gym

but the general idea of a headless is to reduce weight and neck dive

[balmy vortex]

Also, your average headless is usually between 2.2-3kg

This hydra was something else. Black Limba body, burl top, wenge and purple heart neck and a birdseye maple fretboard with no chambering at all

[toxic wharf]

Yep, and getting rid of the intonation and tuning stability struggles that can come with a nut.

[wind mauve]

i did mention that earlier as well

[toxic wharf]

Ah oke

[wind mauve]

humangreed just wanted to inform me that there were heavy headless guitars

[toxic wharf]

Makes sense. In the end those would still be heavier with headstock.

[timid flicker]

Heavy aint a problem for me (im overweight xd)

[balmy vortex]

It was as heavy as it's headstock counterpart.

[toxic wharf]

How does that make sense?

[balmy vortex]

Because not every piece of wood is equal

[timid flicker]

If its equivalent then why they make it laul

[balmy vortex]

Because mayones

[toxic wharf]

It will be once you are on a stage for one and a half hour several times a week tho. Guitars are not very friendly.

[timid flicker]

Guitars and me havea lot in common then

[toxic wharf]

Also it still makes zero sense that a headless guitar would way the same as an equivalent guitar with a headstock.

[balmy vortex]

Some wood has more moisture in it than other pieces

Mahogany itself isn't inherently heavy either, compared to what most people say

We've had heavy guitars made of inherent lightweight woods and the other way around

[toxic wharf]

Yes, but if you have the same guitar, completely similar, the general practical aim of headstock removal is still weight reduction.

[balmy vortex]

On paper yes

In reality no

There are more factors in play than you think

In general for production guitars made in large quantities, Ofc it'll remove some weight

The wood choices, how it's cut, how it's dried, where it came from, how dry it is and how old it is are a number of factors as well to indicate weight savings or not

After that also comes the hardware used for the guitar

[toxic wharf]

Yes, but these are are all quite irrelevant factors when it comes to the overall statement that headless guitars have weight reduction as an advantage. The builder wont know if the guy who buys his headless guitar is gonna chop of parts of the body from his Les Paul making the Les Paul de facto lighter than his headless guitar.

[balmy vortex]

I would more consider that a headless is a lot more weight balanced than its headstock variant

[lethal fractal]

It's better to gave the heavier body without the headstock as well anyways right preventing neck dive further?

Have*

[wind mauve]

i mean pretty much yeah

[balmy vortex]

Ye, that's why headlesses are more balanced and have a more body sided balance point

[toxic wharf]

Yeah, but you can also make a different body.

Werent like Parker guitars built for that and now the Larada's

[balmy vortex]

Parker flys are built to be as strong as possible with its carbon fiber shell

It's still wood

[lethal fractal]

I don't like light guitars but heavy guitars suck just as much depends where the load is being put onto my strap... I had to get used to the 9 string first few weeks I was sore after a couple hours of playing

[wind mauve]

personally, i don't actually care about the weight, just as long as there's no or at least negligible neck dive and i can play it comfortably

[balmy vortex]

As long as it's balanced people won't complain most of the time

[lethal fractal]

Ya

[toxic wharf]

I do like a lighter weight guitar tbh. I used to play live with a Les Paul and hated that thing after a while

[wind mauve]

i assume lighter weight is better but also you spend a couple months with 10kg rifle or a 30kg machine gun you learn not to complain haha

[toxic wharf]

My back started hurting and these were in house gigs taking up to 3 hours.

Yo, Im a musician not cannon fodder

[wind mauve]

i'm both

so

yeah no complaining here lmao

[balmy vortex]

Im able to try a lot of different guitars and usually the more balanced guitar I find a lot more comfortable even though it might be heavier

[wind mauve]

on subject of playing it comfortably, as i mentioned above

[lethal fractal]

I'm just trained in many martial arts you learn pain discipline and to not complain

[wind mauve]

i'm not really into the like BC rich wacky ass designs or the flying Vs or anything

so i gotta ask

[balmy vortex]

Dont

[wind mauve]

is shit like this actually comfy

like is it cool? yeah i could see that

[balmy vortex]

You're gonna have more problems with the neck than its comfort

[toxic wharf]

I dont wanna be trained in martial arts in order to play a few gigs, so I sold that thing for a good buck.

[lethal fractal]

Standing they are usually okay comfort wise sitting no

[balmy vortex]

QC is still an extreme hit or miss with legator

[wind mauve]

well it's an eight string so like yeaht the neck is gonna hurt either way

oh you mean cause its a legator

[balmy vortex]

Yes

[wind mauve]

yeah we've had this discussion a couple times

i am sold on the legators, my buddy has one and it's his favourite guitar, and QC has tightened up extremely over the last few years

[lethal fractal]

Haha ya I've been training since I was 4 so just playing music was a bi product I guess.

[balmy vortex]

I wanna see if we can get one into our spec

And I highly doubt we can

[wind mauve]

so i will take the word of the guy i can talk to in person who can actually show me his legator irl

than the internet guys

[lethal fractal]

Also why is a hard case for my guitars going to be like $450 I mine as well make one.

[wind mauve]

also worth pointing out that all the reviews i've seen they tested the neck, one reviewer took a plastic bag filled with air and ran it along the sides to see if sharp fret edges would pop it

did not pop

[toxic wharf]

I do think they have improved from what they gather, but bad QC generally means that theres a disproportionate amount of guitars with issues against the price you pay for them.

Im not sure if that has been solved yet despite improvement.

[wind mauve]

i mean if i get the japanese made one i'm lookin at (god willing lol) then it should have no issues

its the korean-made lower end models that apparently have had issues

and they might still have issues, but it's fewer and farther between

[balmy vortex]

You do you, but don't say I didn't warn you if you're experiencing problems like finish issues, set up problems or bent necks being repair

[toxic wharf]

Yeah I think thats the first production line that would suffer most from bad QC so makes sense if they made mass improvements on that.

I highly doubt the Japanese line is gonna deliver a bent neck guitar.

[wind mauve]

i mean like i said, my irl buddy from college has a lower-end legator ninja and it is his favourite guitar, he loves that thing

he's had 0 issues with it

so if that's the review i can get for their lowest end product then the higher end ghost should be stellar

[balmy vortex]

Depends on what level his tolerance is. We've sent back 10-30 different guitars from our store due to them not being able to get setup or having fret problems, tho our QC is very strict

[toxic wharf]

Finish issues are also something you can get from other guitars in the 1000 dollar range. Even some people I know using a PRS SE model had some comment about slight blemishes on the finish.

[wind mauve]

one other review, and i can find it if necessary, the guy explains that legator actually has their design team at the factory now to help ensure quality control

[balmy vortex]

Those would get sent back immediately if they arrived in our store

[wind mauve]

https://youtu.be/xEF5KfKzLyE?si=ownvwVHPZSNEj7ti

here's the one

he had a slightly unfair advantage as he talked to i believe a sales rep at legator

and was able to basically pick out one to purchase at the factory

[lethal fractal]

There is another video I might be able to find...

Lots of videos

[toxic wharf]

Im still not a fan of the finishes they pick for their guitars.

The only one I liked is the full on white one.

[balmy vortex]

That's incredibly unfair ngl

[lethal fractal]

^

[wind mauve]

[toxic wharf]

Thats any youtube guitar influencer tho.

[wind mauve]

he lives like an hour from their san fran hq tho

and i am but a poor canuck

whats a guy to do

[lethal fractal]

I think you could get a better guitar for the same price

[wind mauve]

i cannot lol

[toxic wharf]

If they have an issue with a guitar they get twice the customer service anyone else would get.

[toxic wharf]

For 1500? Probably.

[balmy vortex]

They get more customer service than most guitar stores do that stock them

[lethal fractal]

You would think

[wind mauve]

i talked about it yesterday but the features on the ghost for just under the price of the ibanez guitars i was looking at are basically the same

i want fanned frets with a longer scale length cause i play A standard/drop G

i want headless because i think it looks cool lol

i did also look at a schecter guitar in the price range but it had abysmal reviews

[balmy vortex]

You're looking immediately at the 1000-2000 range ngl

[wind mauve]

i am

that is the goal

[balmy vortex]

Why not Ormsby?

[wind mauve]

i have not looked at any of those

[balmy vortex]

They have a 25.5-27.8 multi scale 7 string

[wind mauve]

whats shipping like to canada? they on sweetwater?

[lethal fractal]

You have a lot of options you can look around

[balmy vortex]

We have them at axe palace and can get them to ya easily via our Dutch store

[wind mauve]

it was all a sponsor bit

[balmy vortex]

Not really

They're Korean made and after our setup they're incredible and decently light weight

They're a genuine option in your price range ngl

Even second hand from reverb

[wind mauve]

oh wait i did look at ormsby guitars

[balmy vortex]

OFC I'll try to score a sale for us. I've sold to people here before as well

[wind mauve]

they're the aussie blokes

[lethal fractal]

I recently played a charvel guitar that was in the shop and I really really liked it.

[balmy vortex]

Ye

[toxic wharf]

Charvel is great.

[wind mauve]

yeah the shipping to canada was

[balmy vortex]

Ive sold an ESP USA tele before to a guy here

[wind mauve]

basically the same price as the actual guitar

[balmy vortex]

Ehhhh.

[toxic wharf]

I also really like Suhr a lot, but its just too much.

[wind mauve]

and the features it had were basically what i could expect out of legator, who had $20 shipping

[lethal fractal]

I almost bought it but don't need a new guitar tbh

[toxic wharf]

I think Suhr gear is the best sounding gear ive played.

[balmy vortex]

Not via us, I can guarantee ya that

[wind mauve]

i won't lie and say that they're not cool

they're badass for sure

[toxic wharf]

I really enjoy their necks.

[balmy vortex]

We send back about 80-90% of all charvels 😅

[balmy vortex]

If you're interested I can see what we can do to get you one for a reasonable price with shipping included

[wind mauve]

i mean, ask around

but i won't be buying anything soon, this is a next year type of deal

after i get a job and start makin the big bucks

[lethal fractal]

I did too

[balmy vortex]

Usually straight to Canada would be like 100€ added

[toxic wharf]

Just save and buy a proper guitar.

[wind mauve]

thats what i aim to do

[toxic wharf]

Just buy a Majesty and be done for the rest of your life.

[balmy vortex]

We sell those as well in the us

[wind mauve]

admittedly this is kind of cool but not really my thing in terms of finish and body shape

[toxic wharf]

Boy that ugly

[wind mauve]

yeah

for headless its apparently either this or a V

and i have no interest in Vs

[blissful flume]

i like the color theme but I personally don’t like the shape

[toxic wharf]

Its like the inbred cousin of an Abasi concepts.

[balmy vortex]

But actually headless

[toxic wharf]

'Yo, we wanna be unique lets make a Larada but headless'

Just doesnt work with the bridge imo.

[balmy vortex]

Just wait till you see the gyro

[wind mauve]

it's the low end being blocked at the twelfth fret

[toxic wharf]

Theres something to be said to keep some things looking like a traditional guitar.

[balmy vortex]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[toxic wharf]

If they properly ripped of a Larada you can still reach it.

[balmy vortex]

As long as it's balanced and playable I'm fine with almost all shapes

[wind mauve]

i am preferential to the standard like

two horn shape that you see on ibanez, epiphone etc

[balmy vortex]

We stock dean Gordon guitars here as well 😛

https://www.ddinstagram.com/p/CvPoiOIobwG/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

[toxic wharf]

I kinda like that shape

[balmy vortex]

Dean makes some great stuff

[wind mauve]

oh yeah i think you showed those before

[toxic wharf]

But I prefer the Virtus.

[wind mauve]

they are very hot

[balmy vortex]

Dean is a good guy

Gonna meet him at name next month

And then we have this

Out of most people their budget but still gorgeous

[toxic wharf]

Kaizen in ogre green

[balmy vortex]

We have it in the neon green in the us store

[toxic wharf]

Ngl it looks good in that color.

Also that vibrant pink one

[balmy vortex]

It dies

[toxic wharf]

Dies?

[balmy vortex]

Does*

Stoopid phone keyboard

[toxic wharf]

Oh I thought the color was bad 🥲

[balmy vortex]

Nah

[toxic wharf]

Ive only played the black one.

[balmy vortex]

Lemme grab a pic of the neon green

[lethal fractal]

I like a few of the kiesl bodies

Getting my bass from them...

[balmy vortex]

No offense, but I'd never get something from kiesel

[toxic wharf]

Same here

Not even a fan of their shapes

[balmy vortex]

Has nothing to do with their guitars, those are great it's more the person that fronts the brand

[lethal fractal]

Yea

[toxic wharf]

Its not completely matte right?

[balmy vortex]

It is

[toxic wharf]

Ah I thought their first line were the completely matte colors and now they just released metallic ones.

[balmy vortex]

Maybe the back isn't going from the shots we have

[lethal fractal]

I have shared it before but this thing

[balmy vortex]

Looks like the whole body is gloss now I see it 😅

[lethal fractal]

Doctor office connection sucks

[balmy vortex]

[toxic wharf]

Sweet

If I miss out on the J Larada when they go online, its the one im going for.

[balmy vortex]

I'm getting conflicting information rn, I'll tag you in a bit and have to confirm with a buddy that's in the us store

[lethal fractal]

I'm still looking for other brands that do custom basses and 7 string... I really haven't looked much but if I could lower the price tag I would go for someone else... I also am just a massive fan of archspire and they use kiesl which gravitated me at first but don't care much just one a good instrument

For guitars

[balmy vortex]

They don't for bass

Archspire is 6 string Dingwall now

[lethal fractal]

Looking at images he has actually used that bass shape once... didn't know that.

[lethal fractal]

Yea that's why I said "for guitars"

[balmy vortex]

True that

[balmy vortex]

He did ye

Traveling with a headless instrument is easier than without a headless

A lot of guys that have stopped with kiesel all really stopped due to one reason from talking to those guys

[toxic wharf]

Dang...as if you dont have to compete with other brands lmao.

[wind mauve]

i did like their osiris body but yeah from what i've heard they're kind of a 😬

[lethal fractal]

I hate my new doctor 0_0
Drives me insane I want my old doctor back he was also a musician and we would just talk about guitars

[balmy vortex]

Well the main reason they stop with kiesel is Jeff

[balmy vortex]

It's mainly Jeff.

[toxic wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/simpson-homer-simpson-scream-angry-gif-13579262493362635689

[balmy vortex]

Hapas into a bogner goes hard

[balmy vortex]

@toxic wharf just confirmed, the neon green kaizen is gloss body satin neck

Let me know when you wanna get it

[silk wren]

I wanna get an LTD any recommendations on which one

I got a budget of $2200 and I’m a fan of bright color ways

[toxic wharf]

Will be next year....Ill be trying for a J Larada first when the batch arrives

But they are usually sold within minutes

[balmy vortex]

I know they are

[balmy vortex]

And be careful, I might have my eyes on the same kaisen

[hard island]

Hey guys, I'm searching for guitar (mainly for metal, but also for other genres). My budget is max 750€... What do you guys think would be a good choice?

[lethal fractal]

Ibanez

[toxic wharf]

Yeesss...well some of the other colors are sweet as well

I just love the pick ups and how smooth it plays

[timid flicker]

You could also check schecter guitars at that price point they have some good stuff

[lethal fractal]

Jackson as well... Also harley bentons seem to be good though I don't have any personal input

[wind mauve]

figure this'd be the best channel but

https://youtu.be/63Lkr7pPF4k?si=3TfzWXinuSYsXKzT

10 string guitar, given to a man who does not metal, ever

[lethal fractal]

Love that video as always...

I want a 10 so badly but they are just stupid

[wind mauve]

i honestly barely even want an 8

yippee, something i can play meshuggah or ATB i guess?

im fine with 7

[lethal fractal]

I originally got an 8 string for archspire... and found it wasn't low enough feeling so got the 9 for some ATB songs and more for personal work

I think 7 is the best for just everything.

[wind mauve]

if i were to play in like a band or make my own music it'd be with a 7

[lethal fractal]

Good idea

[wind mauve]

an 8 string or higher would be like, after i have a lot of money to spend on silly little things like $5k ibanez mark hagstrom sigs

[lethal fractal]

I hate 99% of sig guitars

I am more of the custom I make my own dumb looking thing

[wind mauve]

i mean c'mon

its cool

[lethal fractal]

I honestly hate it, it's one of my least favorite looking guitars that get thrown around a lot.

I think apart of it is the bridge I think it's one if the ugliest bridges

Put on a new bridge and something on the fretboard or a fretboard that has a piece of wood like flamed maple (not flamed maple on that but has that look)

I also think locking nuts are extremely ugly useful but ugly.

[silk wren]

I mean c’mon

I wish they still had the black and red color way

[severe flume]

same

[unreal rivet]

Very nice! Apologies for the belated reply. 🙃

[quasi mirage]

You’re good, and ty 👍

[wintry nova]

New amplifier arrived today

[median hemlock]

i was bored...

[lethal fractal]

Nice

[toxic wharf]

Congrats, have fun

[wintry nova]

Thanks

[vital carbon]

Does anmyone remember if The RGA42 was way cheaper a few years back?

It is around $420 USD now I could have sworn it was closer to 280 ish...

[wind mauve]

now that i've played around a significant bit with the plini x

and with the knowledge of what amps are in the nolly

i think i actually want the nolly plugin

[lethal fractal]

I have nolly I plan on getting more but it's a good standalone

[wind mauve]

i like plini and i like the features of plini x

but nolly models the same amp (kraken victory), has four amps including a 5150, and has the feature of changing out cabs & heads

so the extra like $50 CAD it costs might actually be worth it for me

only problem is i already used the free trial of it a while back and i think in terms of like sound i was in the wrong mindset so i didn't like it but also didn't experiment enough with it, now that i know what sounds i actually want (5150 and victory kraken) i feel like i'd love it

[lethal fractal]

I mean my goal just own all that apply to what I need

[wind mauve]

well yeah

that's exactly it

and archetype abasi is what i thought i would need and it does have some great things, i absolutely love the lead and clean tones i've made with it

so archetype plini or archetype nolly could cover the rest of it i think

altho imma keep it real i might have to try out the fortin cali suite too

https://tenor.com/view/grinch-smile-grin-devious-evil-scheming-gif-24073832

[lethal fractal]

I was honestly disappointed with Abasi I'm still wondering if I will get it or not.

It will be my last one it's to specific I thing... also Tim Hensons I hated I mean even running his guitar through it... just meh

[wind mauve]

i actually quite liked Tim henson’s archetype

it was just way too focused for what i wanted

that’s why i picked abasi cause it had cleans, rhythms, and leads, but i find it’s too focused on more like experimental things, especially the rhythm

[lethal fractal]

Yea

Nolly you can get very very similar sounds to all of them and more for gojira I'd probably use one of the cabs and the distortion pedals and the pitch mixed with nolly probably the compression from I think it's petrucci.

[toxic wharf]

I think Nolly and Plini are very similar with Plini having better quality time based fx

I could get the same tones out of Plini X and Nolly tbh so I regret having both

I bought Nolly first

If you have Nolly, Plini or Petrucci you can get 80% of all tones achievable with any of the Archetype plugins

[toxic wharf]

Something I just started with Archetype Petrucci

[balmy vortex]

Full stack goes brrr

[lethal fractal]

I should get that for my basement parents would love it.

[verbal fossil]

free earthquake at home

[lethal fractal]

Yep

[severe flume]

And i can't even play unplugged or else imma get kicked out of the house...

[wind mauve]

time based fx do not exactly sound like what i need

i am also gonna try the fortin cali suite today just in case

it’s significantly cheaper which is already a plus

[wind mauve]

that's pretty neat

the main drive to get the plini is that i started a project with it for the bogren digital riff competition, bungled the render, and now my trial's expired so i can't go back in and fix it lmao

i dont even know how i fucked up that beginning section cause i'm using the doubler so it's a single track

and yeah i could've done better riffs or whatever i just wanted to practice

[toxic wharf]

Is that with the Plini?

Sounds good to me

[wind mauve]

yeah

[toxic wharf]

Tone is pretty well defined with the Plini tbh

What do you think is lacking?

[wind mauve]

well aside from the weird audio cut right at the beginning i just think i could put down some better riffs

[toxic wharf]

I feel the Nolly basically does the same high gain tones amd Plini now has way way better cleans with the blend function, making Abasi obsolete for most peeps

[toxic wharf]

Did you program the drums?

[wind mauve]

no they were provided for the challenge

[toxic wharf]

Ah oke, because I think that riff would have been more impactful with a bit more of a toned down drumgroove

[ancient path]

bruh i broke a tuning peg off

💀

stuck in drop d

[graceful socket]

How did you....how is that even possible!? lmao

[blissful flume]

[tawny raft]

bro how

[quasi mirage]

How does one manage to do that 💀💀💀

[median hemlock]

🤣 🤣

[timid flicker]

skill.

i mean if you have a dt drop pedal

you can change drop tunings

[graceful socket]

As if you'd ever need anything else lol

[timid flicker]

true

[lethal fractal]

Did you just break like the button off?

Or the post?

[craggy current]

does that really exist

[timid flicker]

yes

[craggy current]

so you can change your tuning with just a pedal

[tawny raft]

https://digitech.com/dp/drop/

[craggy current]

dayum

[wispy flint]

it's sick

and very handy especially on 6 strings

so you dont need to play with spaghetti strings lol

would be super useful on my bass

[vital carbon]

Noob question, why are all the artist presets in the JP amp plugin? they seem to be setup for his rig was just curious wtf was going on?

[toxic wharf]

I dont understand the question...

They are just presets made by other guitarplayers. All archetypes have presets like that. Next to presets from the artist himself other 'famous' guitarplayers were asked to build a few

[median hemlock]

i love how the put (polyphia) behind tim henson like we dont know what band hes in

[median hemlock]

does it change the whole plugin if you select one?

[cobalt sable]

Yo guys what do I need to look for if I bought my guitar online and it just arrived ?

[median hemlock]

do you have an amp?

[cobalt sable]

Was that question for me ? If yes yeah that’s my 2nd guitar

So I already own everything I need

[median hemlock]

cool

just make sure it doesnt have any broken hardware n stuff then

[cobalt sable]

Ty :) btw it does have active pickups, anything I have to look out for ?

[median hemlock]

dont leave the guitar plugged into the amp, take the chord out when youre done playing. theres a button inside the hole for the chord that activates the pickups. if you leave it plugged in than the pickups will drain batteries really quick

i learned that the heard way:(

[wind mauve]

that'd be a great question if we knew what guitar it was

[median hemlock]

im assuming theyre emgs

[cobalt sable]

Schecter demon 7

[median hemlock]

fuckin slick

[wind mauve]

i see

[cobalt sable]

Oh thank you, my battery would have been empty so fast hahaha

[cobalt sable]

:)

[median hemlock]

yup! enjoy

[cobalt sable]

String actuation looks fine right ? (12th fret)

[cobalt sable]

I will Ty

[median hemlock]

yeah it looks ok. you have a set bridge so you could probably lower it if you wanted to

[cobalt sable]

Idk how to do that hahah 😅

[median hemlock]

its not hard

[lethal fractal]

Can't tell from the photo... Also hopefully pickups are at the right height.
They should be though, you will have to let the guitar sit for a bit before you adjust anything as new air and everything will change how it's setup.

[cobalt sable]

But it feels fine tbh and I don’t have any dead notes either

[lethal fractal]

If you need just take it to a shop

[cobalt sable]

Tuning it is fine though right ?

[lethal fractal]

Intonation might get wonky in like 3 weeks from the guitar adjusting.

[lethal fractal]

Playing and tuning is fine... it might go out of tune faster then normal but it probably wouldn't be an issue with the instrument

[cobalt sable]

You guys are so helpful tysm

[lethal fractal]

Do my best

[median hemlock]

yup

[cobalt sable]

0.56 should be fine for drop a :)

[lethal fractal]

What's the scale length 26?
Ya it will be fine

I use 56 on a 25.5 and drop A is fine G standard I start running into issues

You probably could do drop G just fine

[cobalt sable]

26.5

[cobalt sable]

Hahahah okay

[median hemlock]

@lethal fractal 26.5 is a baritone isnt it?

it is

[cobalt sable]

Yeah I think so

[median hemlock]

says 26.5 to 30.5

[cobalt sable]

Does that make a difference ?

[lethal fractal]

Yes

Good though

Unless you want to tune up.

[cobalt sable]

I hate tuning up

Hahahah.

[median hemlock]

baritone is better for metal🤘

so drop A would probably be a good start

[lethal fractal]

Also I don't consider 7 string 26.5 to be baritone usually 27.5 or more is baritone range in my opinion... I feel like 26.5 is just like standard 7 string

[cobalt sable]

Im a huge slaughter to prevail fine

[lethal fractal]

Have fun

[cobalt sable]

Ty ty ;)

[lethal fractal]

I need to order my new strings for my guitar 0.105 gauge 0_0

[cobalt sable]

WTH

[median hemlock]

tell me thats a bass

please

[lethal fractal]

No

[median hemlock]

8 string?

[lethal fractal]

No

[median hemlock]

holy bamboly

[cobalt sable]

Bro is going insane

[median hemlock]

a niner

thats sick

[lethal fractal]

It came with a 90 gauge for the low string with a 28 inch scale like its fine for like drop B lower if picking medium

[median hemlock]

what tuning do you have currently on it?

[lethal fractal]

(C) (F) (Bb) (Eb) (Ab) (Db) (Gb) (Bb) (Eb)

[median hemlock]

damn

[lethal fractal]

Gets the job done

I keep telling myself no to a 10 string I don't even play djent

[median hemlock]

deathcore or prog or what?

i have all 6 strings

[lethal fractal]

Technical polyrhythmic tech death metal.

I use it for jazz as well...

[median hemlock]

jazz🤣

[lethal fractal]

I like playing classic rock songs like 2 octaves down it sounds stupid...

[lethal fractal]

I'm a massive jazz musician

[median hemlock]

awesome

im actually in a nonacticve country band right now lol

[lethal fractal]

Nice

I was supposed to go like 30 minutes ago and I still have not eaten so I shall go eat and get my ass to my tournament

[median hemlock]

sounds like a good idea

see ya

[brazen ridge]

There you go @last snow have I redeemed myself!?

[last snow]

You totally have

Sorry I was having dinner

[last snow]

Also give that good boi some pets

[brazen ridge]

I always do

[timid flicker]

Nice guitar

More importantly

Ur dog looks swagger

[brazen ridge]

He is!

[timid flicker]

give the man some treats on my behalf

[brazen ridge]

I just gave him a piece of my chicken

[vital carbon]

how do you like this rig? I just snagged a boue one and im on the fence I feel like I should have just spent more and snagged the RG550...

[brazen ridge]

I love it!It sounds so good .

[wooden glacier]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWJT4Lqhd5Y

does someone know what guitar that ids

[wind mauve]

well, it's an ibanez 7-string, so i'd check out the ibanez website or sweetwater for similar looking ones

and it has an RG body which doesn't really narrow it down but you know for sure it's an RG7

of some variety

[wooden glacier]

alr thank you

[lethal fractal]

Yep

[cobalt sable]

I might be dumb, but how do I do that ? 😅 Ive only done normal bends thus far

[wind mauve]

i don’t think that’s a bend

that notation usually means harmonic

[cobalt sable]

How does that it work in that case I can’t see him play an harmonic in this video

[gritty garden]

Looks like it's just saying Pinch Harmonic on the 6th and the bit in brackets is the harmonic note that sounds because the 18th Fret is the same note just an octave higher, same with 5.

[lethal fractal]

What song is it?

[cobalt sable]

Baba yaga

[cobalt sable]

Oh thanks

[lethal fractal]

Yes you are just playing the 6th and 5th fret as pinch harmonics

That's written really weird

[cobalt sable]

Thank you

[verbal fossil]

i've always seen pinch harmonics written like that

[lethal fractal]

I normally just see the PH or the ◆ for pinch harmonic the natural harmonic is what just seemed strange to me...

[severe flume]

"PH" means pinch harmonic ig the pinch harmonic on the 6th fret sounds like the normal note on the 18th. At least that's what i'm understanding

[wind mauve]

usually the <> signifies a normal harmonic

like when you just kinda hover over the string with your finger for the harmonic sound

pinches make more sense for StP tho

[verbal fossil]

for natural harmonics the fret to play will be between <> as mentioned above but the pinched harmonic will have the fret it's played on + the equivalent sounding freted note next to it between <>

[lethal fractal]

Interesting cool

https://youtu.be/tHaf8-OFsGk?si=4gL3-EzXZs96BJsQ

Anyways what the actual hell

[atomic vigil]

guys i need help im absolutely tilted right now

i got a whammy pedal today

Where does this go ?

i dont have a midi cable so i just put the whammy pedal into my audio interface u know

okey forget it i found it im sorry

[graceful socket]

Sorry but this is really funny to me

Have fun my dude, I love my Whammy and couldnt imagine living without it

[verbal fossil]

👀

[wind mauve]

archetype heavin devin or EVH 5150 suite

🙏

im manifesting it

[atomic vigil]

it the best thing ever omg i am so shocked how insane this is, this is wayy too much fun to stop any time soon XD

[toxic wharf]

No Archetype Steve Vai is emberassing tbh

[wind mauve]

steve vai artist presets for the heavy devy archetype

[graceful socket]

I can feel your excitement and trust me, it's been the same for me! :D The amount of options, variety and of course the alien noises that suddenly become possible are such an incredible addition to your playing

[toxic wharf]

Use Plini or Nolly 3rd amp and abuse the reverb

Thats basically what Devin does

[wind mauve]

wouldn't it be fourth amp for nolly

iirc third plini and fourth nolly were kraken victory

[toxic wharf]

I dont think the Plini is a kraken

[wind mauve]

i thought you told me it was a kraken

[toxic wharf]

Nolly is yes

[wind mauve]

explain

[toxic wharf]

I dont know, I think the Nolly is a Kraken for sure

Plini might be a 5150 style amp

But it doesnt matter for Devin. He played through Petrucci's archetype with massive verb and got basically his tone. You can achieve the same with Plini or Nolly archetypes

[wind mauve]

yeah but iirc there was something about them actually working on an archetype devin townsend

[atomic vigil]

and alos just being finally able to play invent animate without any wubble string its just soo satisfying

[golden hound]

Anyone using a Jackson JS12?

Been thinking about getting one

[cobalt sable]

Yo guys I have an combo amp but I want to get a deathcore tone out of it. Any tips where to start ?

[wind mauve]

what amp do you have, that's always a good start

[cobalt sable]

A shitty blackstar one

Let me check

Id core 20 v3

[wind mauve]

aight, i don't know the amp but some quick googling brought me this

OD1 or 2 is gonna be your best bet, whichever one sounds naturally bassier

[cobalt sable]

Od1 is what I usually use

[wind mauve]

alright

put all of the tone control knobs to 12 o'clock and adjust em one by one

[cobalt sable]

Okay :)

Should I use any effects like reverb ?

[wind mauve]

i think OD2 is what you're looking for actually

reverb i would say no unless you're doing a lead

[cobalt sable]

Oh yeah might be true, I only played thrash before hahah

[wind mauve]

yeah OD1 would be good for thrash

for deathcore i would probably put the bass at 1 o'clock, the mid at 3, and the treble at 5

depends on the particular sound tho, what i suggested works great if you want like a psycho-frame, OG chelsea grin, suicide silence etc

[cobalt sable]

Im quite new into deathcore I mostly listen to slaughter to prevail 😅

[wind mauve]

well, start with what i suggested, put some StP on, and then adjust until it sounds closer i suppose

[cobalt sable]

Ty I’ll try that

[wind mauve]

@toxic wharf https://youtu.be/OD7DsPNFa-E at 23:38 his tech brings up quad cortex and he just goes "i'm actually doing an archetype for them"

[silver pewter]

Guys can someone pls figure out for me how do i get somewhat Joey Roxx of Burn Halo distorted tone? https://youtu.be/gpHErjUw3F8?si=0h5c_lrunmPJQDCu

[lethal fractal]

You using an amp Sim or pedals and a stack/combo amp?

[slender horizon]

I have a JS22 and it works out great so far.. I put on a little thicker strings, so I'm still struggling with setting it up correctly atm, but it's a good guitar for the price (although I haven't played too many different guitars yet)

[toxic wharf]

Ah sweet. Wonder what he would add. Probably some weird ambient fx.

[verbal fossil]

i love tuning my guitar 1 half step up and a string breaks well it's been a while since i chnaged strings so it was about time to change them

[wind mauve]

in the comments they were mentioning his "mooer" fx pedal which was some sort of multi-fx delay

another comment mentioned that when it comes to wah pedals, he loves the crybaby wah but his first priority is to have an auto-wah, so i would assume a cybaby auto-wah

[cobalt sable]

@wind mauve im still a bit confused, those are the settings I have

[lethal fractal]

Max gain

[cobalt sable]

Ye

But idk what cab rig to use Hahahh

[lethal fractal]

Not sure what you are trying to achieve either... I mean you can also play with all the cabs see what you like.

[wind mauve]

um

put the gain and volume to middle as well

jesus

[lethal fractal]

I would turn your gain down... Yea that

[cobalt sable]

Hahahah

[wind mauve]

when i said put everything at 12 o'clock i meant everything

and don't turn on any FX until your main amp settings are dialled in

[cobalt sable]

Those where just my software presets

[lethal fractal]

I usually use an OD pedal before amp stuff... I mean maybe have your presence closer to 1 and the treble.
Not sure what sound you are going for.

[cobalt sable]

Death core

I don’t have an od pedal though so that’s the problem

[lethal fractal]

That's fine

[wind mauve]

put the gain to either 11 or 12 o'clock, the volume should be at 12 o'clock and adjusted later, and generally what i do is turn bass down to 11 o'clock, put middle at 3 o'clock, and treble to about 4 o'clock. not sure what that last one is, that'll need personal adjustment, and the last two you should adjust based on your audio setup to avoid clipping and unwanted background noise

[cobalt sable]

Thx

Can’t put my volume that high though

[lethal fractal]

Presence at around 1 or 2 I would tend to do anyways

[wind mauve]

uh

thats not

thats not what i mean

ok so imagine your amp knobs are a clock

like an analogue clock

where's 12 on a clock

[lethal fractal]

Turn the volume of your pc down

[cobalt sable]

Top

[wind mauve]

yeah

[cobalt sable]

12 o clock is basically on the top right ?

[lethal fractal]

I think he's saying he can't be blasting the amp due to household rules

[cobalt sable]

Yeah

[wind mauve]

yeah

[lethal fractal]

It's dead top

[wind mauve]

so go off of clock directions for what i said

and the volume knob isn't the master volume knob

[lethal fractal]

Have it at 12
Turn down your PC volume to make it less loud.

[wind mauve]

so if you cant play that loud just turn down your master volume

or use headphones idk

the volume knob for amp settings controls the actual volume of the signal that your guitar sends, so if you turn it way the fuck down it'll just kill your tone

[lethal fractal]

Yea

[cobalt sable]

Oh

Didn’t know that

But I can’t turn my master volume down

[lethal fractal]

Now ya do.
You can use your pc as the master I believe

[cobalt sable]

Doesn’t work

I tried that

[wind mauve]

the actual amp should have a dial or knob labelled "master"

[cobalt sable]

It doesn’t 😅

[wind mauve]

thats weird

[lethal fractal]

I generally wouldn't recommend this but turning down your interfaces master volume..

Oh

Hmm

[wind mauve]

its not the knob on the far right covered in picks?

[lethal fractal]

I wouldn't think so...

Could be though

[cobalt sable]

There isn’t a knob

Idk the amp is weird

[lethal fractal]

What are the picks covering, what word?

[cobalt sable]

Is only has some weird effects stuff which I dont use anyways

[cobalt sable]

Just the name of the amp

[lethal fractal]

Yea

Nevermind haha

Hmm

[cobalt sable]

It’s a beginner amp, but I literally can’t understand shi

[cobalt sable]

That’s for the levels of the effects 💀

[lethal fractal]

I'm off to school have fun

[cobalt sable]

Hahah have fun too

[lethal fractal]

I will

[wind mauve]

interesting stuff

[cobalt sable]

Those are my final settings

[lethal fractal]

Interesting

[cobalt sable]

Hahahah

[lethal fractal]

I can't see that sounding great but comes down to the speakers...

[silver pewter]

The first option

[cobalt sable]

Sounds decent tbh, but as you just guessed the speakers aren’t really great

[toxic wharf]

Yeah hes big on the mooer reverb. Its great tbh

Might be worth the buy just for that

[toxic wharf]

Definitely needs more gain

[cobalt sable]

Any other tips ?

[lethal fractal]

He's joking... It has more then enough gain arguably a bit to much.
Not sure what it sounds like though.

https://youtu.be/hjX-QDlQssA?si=1f4ckSRRieyfDxUB

[cobalt sable]

I’m such a noob

It doesn’t sound too much to me, still quite clean

[lethal fractal]

If you have a clean amp and crank the gain it won't sound all to much dirtier... Where pedals can come it handy or just different amps which not sure if that has different Sims for a dirtier amp.

[lethal fractal]

This might help...

[cobalt sable]

I‘ll Watch the video ty

[lethal fractal]

No worries, Andrew Baena has a new video of his sound but I don't know if you could get much from it

https://youtu.be/EkuIpDjm6Gg?si=62blRMCEKNsJm-Aj

[wind mauve]

i mean if it has a 5150 like you theorized then it'll be worth it for me

as i haben't bought either the nolly or plini yet

gots ta save money for the holidays

[wind mauve]

why'd you take that much out of the mids

[lethal fractal]

Who knows...

[wind mauve]

this is for eight strings on a quad cortex however his advice about the drive pedal is actually quite effective

[lethal fractal]

Yea

You can pick some stuff out but it's a bit meh.

[cobalt sable]

That’s what I heard online

Sounds better than higher mids tbh

[wind mauve]

i mean, sure, i guess

[cobalt sable]

But I’m really just a noob when it comes to amp settings etc

[lethal fractal]

I mean typically you would blend like two microphones as well one for the lower darker tones then one that picks up the higher frequencies and what not but that doesn't seem like an option...

[cobalt sable]

I have a setting for high and lows though

Rn I have them both at 12 o clock

[toxic wharf]

No Im not sure about Devins amp

[toxic wharf]

Ah oke, either one of those are great. Arguably Plini had the recent update which makes the sound quality overall a bit better but they are practically the same imo

I dont think the archetypes have amp models they try to fully emulate anyway

[wind mauve]

plini is cheaper but nolly has four amps and the cab switching functionality

which is weird you'd think that'd be a stock feature by now so plini not having it is kinda strange

even the mateus asato one had it

[dire kayak]

soldering iron maybe

[ancient path]

Oh I found a work around for now

Pliers on the broken end to tube it

That’s pretty metal

[wind mauve]

the reddit post i linked did also have a comment explaining his general amp setup

but i totally forget what they talked about

[vocal hearth]

I wanna buy some cheap plug ins for my guitar any suggestions?

I play groove metal and hardcore like Hatebreed, lamb of god and pantera and also Swedish Melodeath bands

[lethal fractal]

Do you have a DI or something that alows you to plug your guitar into what ever you plan on using?

[dire hamlet]

Thinking of buying a new head amp for Xmas to replace my old shitty one I got off eBay. Thinking about either a mesa dual rectifier or a peavey 6505

[timid flicker]

Buythe 6505 if u can

I mean im no expert

But i heard the new 6505 is op

[quasi mirage]

Question: pedals or effects unit?

[toxic wharf]

Honestly depends. Both are very viable options. Pedals are way more fun but tend to become an expensive hobby

[lethal fractal]

I want to start getting into speaker collecting and building custom cabs and stuff

[quasi mirage]

So would you recommend maybe a combination of both?

[toxic wharf]

Id say anyone needs a proper overdrive pedal

Even when you work with modellers thats weird getting

Flangers and phasers are nice to have as stompboxes too. I used a combination of both where I used rack fx for reverbs amd delays but most other fx from stompboxes

[dire hamlet]

If you know what pedals you want, for example I have a wah pedal, an hm2 and I'm trying to get my hands on a. Other than that, I just fucked around with pickup placement and a whammy bar combined with a wah pedal to create a sound that's uniquely my own. That being said, if you want to play a wide range of stuff, an axe fx or neural DSP is probably better.

[soft ocean]

any guitar nerd here that can give me feedback on if it's worth it or nah

[lethal fractal]

I personally wouldn't buy it on the used market you probably could get something better for just a bit more.

[dry parrot]

usually packs like that are quantity over quality, id try to find a single good guitar and amp

which just takes a bit of research

cable will probably arrive dead or die within minutes

gig bag cheap and thin

amp is gonna sound about as cheap as it is

id just avoid it overall

big headache

try to look out for the new solar guitars i think they'd making cheaper more accesible ones

https://www.sbysolar.com

id suggest looking into them

and ask someone else about amps, i use plugins mostly

i have a fender champion 40 for practice and its pretty alright

[soft ocean]

I'll look it up, well, I found this on an app provided by the french governmend, and yeah you pretty much get 300€ to spend in cultural stuff, like music, concerts etc..

I'll try to dig out to find a good amp and an entry price guitar, as I'm juste a beginner

but for 300€ I definitely can get something decent

[dry parrot]

just keep this in mind, if you go too cheap then you might end up with something you regret and end up having wasted that money

like my squier strat

[soft ocean]

is there other necessary stuff except from an AMP?

[dry parrot]

well obviously a cable

and picks

and a tuner for convenience but you dont need it

you can tune with a phone app or browser

anyways im gonna go to bed its late here

if you have more questions theres a lot of other smart people here that could probably help you

[soft ocean]

alright, than you for your advice

sleep tight

[severe flume]

Considering it's in French, most people here won't able to help you

[severe flume]

Solar is very good

[wind mauve]

neural dsp Morgan Amps Suite

it’s tohover bros

the people in the comments being like “well you shouldn’t complain just because it’s not another high-gain metal amp” as if neuraldsp’s target audience hasn’t been people who want high-gain metal amps

like yeah we’re gonna complain when the company that releases nothing but crushing metal tones of nearly every variety is now releasing the same clean sounds we can already get with half their amps

[wind mauve]

my buddy is willing to sell me his legator ninja for $200 flat instead of the like $400 USD it retailed for so honestly i think imma take dat

[lethal fractal]

Have you played it before?

[wind mauve]

i have not but i can probably just ask to

[lethal fractal]

I'd recommend that before buying it

[wind mauve]

well yeah

[lethal fractal]

I just don't think legator is great until you get into their much more expensive instruments... You seem to like them though so have fun with them.

[lethal fractal]

Random question that I feel like should be obvious if you have like a 25 inch scale length guitar could you double it and make it a 50 inch but keep the same Fret board making the 12th fret like 1/4 of the scale length and technically be able to still play normally just would be lower?

Just a random thought I had.

Besides for like intonation issues and what not would it work?

[vocal hearth]

Digital plug ins

[quasi mirage]

I don’t have a pc

[vocal hearth]

Ok

[toxic wharf]

But thats the same with their gain tones. I think Morgan amps are sufficiently unique to warrant a standalone suite. Probably wouldnt take it over tone king tho

[soft ocean]

yeah, you're right, but I've got the feedback I was looking for anyways 😉

[severe flume]

good to know 👍

[wind mauve]

and this is the part where it's kind of hard to debate further, cause we have completely opposite viewpoints haha

to my ears at least, if you were to play five different clean sounds from five different suites, i couldn't tell you which was which unless it was maybe like a tim henson one but even that is dodgy

[severe flume]

I'm in love with this Schecter

[quasi mirage]

Personally I’m not a huge fan of the reversed headstock, but it looks really cool!

[lethal fractal]

It works for some headstock others they look bad on

No headstock I tend to lean towards

[balmy drift]

Interesting to see the newer headstocks in the reversed position.

[lethal fractal]

I just hate locking nuts ugliest things ever.

And those massive bridges

I love the fret inlays

Fret inlays?

What am I on

Can we make a guitar with fret inlays?

insert stupid crazy thing that that kids do nowadays

[severe flume]

yeah right? I really like it

[severe flume]

The thing that made me fall in love with it even more are the Roman number frets

and the sustain neck pickup

[quasi mirage]

Those are kinda cool tbh. Much more appealing than many other designs I’ve seen

[severe flume]

fr

[quasi mirage]

I’m getting an Ibanez 7, I think I might look at getting a Schecter 8 string tbh

Something like this I think

I’ve been debating whether I should get a multi scaled one or not

[lethal fractal]

Depends what you want to play

[toxic wharf]

Id always go multi scale on an 8

[severe flume]

If only i had money

[bitter yew]

so like, whats the i have a question
I have an irig. whats the best virtual amp or software for tone

im planning on upgrading to an audio interface by christmas

[lethal fractal]

Well what tone are you looking for... I use neural DSP for almost everything and most of us here do so that's what I'd recommend.

[bitter yew]

im new to virtual amps just to let you know. I play a wide range of songs from bands like defotnes, linkin park, and paramore.

[wind mauve]

neural dee ess pee

[lethal fractal]

Yea neural

[wind mauve]

they have 14 day free trials on every amp

[lethal fractal]

^

[wind mauve]

so try em all

[lethal fractal]

You do have to setup some other software like iLok but it's the best

I use nolly and petrucci those are my favorites and most versatile so is Plini x I what I think it is

[bitter yew]

oh, i think i might already have ilok from the time henson plugin

[wind mauve]

the tim henson is a neural dsp

[bitter yew]

ooooh ok

[lethal fractal]

Yea

[wind mauve]

so good job

[bitter yew]

I see how it works now

[lethal fractal]

Cool

Have fun

[bitter yew]

how much is it after the trial?

[wind mauve]

most amps are 119 EUR to 149 EUR

some of the older ones with less features are 99 EUR

[bitter yew]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[wind mauve]

wait for a sale imo, there'll probably be another one early next year

[bitter yew]

alright

[lethal fractal]

As well most YouTubers have codes for like 40% ofd

Off

[wind mauve]

currently nik should have a 30% off code

idk any others tho

[lethal fractal]

I believe Andrew has one a lot of people do...

Some sites probably have codes just need to make sure you aren't on something sketchy

[harsh yoke]

What is a good tempo to practice pray for plagues? The pull offs aren’t the easiest at a slow tempo but also I just started practicing it so I’m not prepared to speed it up to 226

[lethal fractal]

Whatever the fastest you currently can play it at perfectly start there.

[harsh yoke]

Alright thanks

[lethal fractal]

Have fun that's a really really fun song.

[harsh yoke]

I know, my boyfriend is doing a vocal cover so I’m doing guitar

[lethal fractal]

Awesome

Black and blue is also fun to play similar riffs

[harsh yoke]

It’s my favorite bmth song, I’m definitely learning it next

[bright latch]

Not much of a guitarist anymore since I play bass more now

[lethal fractal]

One of my favorite guitars... Love this thing.

[wind mauve]

gibsonez

that honestly looks sick

[lethal fractal]

Yea haha got it for free as well can't complain going to put locking tuners on it might put different pickups but I also love how the current ones sound.

[wind mauve]

free gibsonez? fuck yeah dude

[lethal fractal]

I also need to get a new 9 string set of strings but don't feel like dealing with shipping...

[lethal fractal]

Yep free haha

[lethal fractal]

I want

[wind mauve]

god yes

do they have evh amps with the same funky ass designs as the guitars tho

surprisingly not really

[toxic wharf]

I sold my 5150 III

[slender horizon]

It finally arrived

[spice hinge]

Oooh pretty!!

[wind mauve]

[balmy vortex]

Which of y'all nerds will I see at namm next month?

[wind mauve]

that sounds like an American thing i’m too canadian for

[balmy vortex]

It's the world music industry convention

The entire music industry presents their new products there

[wind mauve]

n - world
a - music
m - industry
m - convention

got it

[balmy vortex]

I never said it was an abbreviation

[wind mauve]

lemme know if there’s any cool guitars there

[balmy vortex]

There will be

[wind mauve]

and i’ll salivate as i imagine what it would be like to afford them

[balmy vortex]

Brand new stuff from all the builders

[wind mauve]

my bingo card has “Ibanez guitar with a normal name” and “headstocked strandberg”

[balmy vortex]

Two things that'll never happen

[wispy flint]

how do we feel about the RGR652AHBF

[lethal fractal]

Haven't played it but looks pretty

[wispy flint]

i want it so badly

it's a whopping 1549 tho

[lethal fractal]

Isn't a lot nowadays for a nicer guitar

[wispy flint]

1.5k is 1.5k

[lethal fractal]

It is

[deft reef]

Does anyone know what effect petal is used here

Is phaser?

[keen ridge]

Anyone else see the new custom shop Jackson 8 for IV of Sleep Token today? 👀 This thing is a beauty. https://x.com/JacksonGuitars/status/1738605699670630589?s=20

[coarse condor]

that is beautiful

[bright latch]

I am trying to write an skramz song can anyone tell me what tuning is best to write in?

[balmy vortex]

Brand new Prestiges are a min 2000 now so 1550 is a good deal

[wintry nova]

Jackson guitars are so based

[cobalt sable]

Im thinking about getting an audio interface, the focusrite Scarlett 2i2, the v3 costs 110 € and the v4 200€.
But with the v4 I get t racks 5 se for free

Any advice 😅

[toxic wharf]

Id go for the v4. Better preamp

If you can spare the money

[cobalt sable]

I definitely have the money

I have a budget of around 300€ but I still need to get an amp sim

And tbh idk if t racks 5 has any use

[bright latch]

^

[lethal fractal]

Doesn't matter you can write in any tuning the key of the song makes more of a difference...

[bright latch]

I kinda need help with my guitar problem

To sum it up I bought this Ibanez guitar and I play it almost all the time and all of sudden when I play it with gain it had sight distortion and I cuts out like how a noise gate would even without one (I put a lot gain). I thought it was nothing so I went to the shop and got it fixed and now the same problem happened again. I don’t know what to do

[median hemlock]

a chord problem? is your amp-guitar chord busted? i know i rough house with my stuff alot so that happens to me quite a bit

[bright latch]

no its not. it works fine with my other guitars

[toxic wharf]

How low is the action? And do you have some neck relief?

[bright latch]

I got it setup not so long ago so idk what’s wrong

[blazing flare]

I have a question. what would anyone recommend for the eq on archetype gojira?

I'm trying to get rid of all the unwanted noise of my 8 string. I messed around with the gain in the RME totalmix so that it doesn't hit red, yet still there is a whole lot of unnecessary noise

[blazing flare]

and I am now experimenting with cubase base noise gate? is it good?

[verbal fossil]

Tbh i can't give any help if i dont hear the noise to know which frequencies make the noise and as for cubase stock noise gate idk i dont usually use it