Guitars & Bass

[lethal fractal]

Yep, this had started with just talking about how many diminished cords are in there then he just had added more stuff I just like playing diminished arpeggios when sweeping and what not so he showed me that.

My 9 string will either come next month or in 3 months Ibanez is shipping to batches of the new RG9 so mine is in one of those two batches.

[balmy drift]

Been about a month, but this is the newest member of the family. Officially joined the "half a guitar" club lol

[storm fjord]

https://10sguitars.com/product/10s-exp-20-x-jared-dines-mountain-dew-meme-djent-guitar/

tempting...

[graceful socket]

That thing is beautiful, wow

[wind mauve]

strandberg?

[balmy drift]

No actually, knock off brand called NK guitars, was pretty skeptical at first but the guy i bought it off of had put in some work and this thing plays like dream

[wind mauve]

neat!

how do headless guitars play? seeing as my next guitar is most likely going to be one

[balmy drift]

I love it, had to get used to tuning from the body of the guitar, but the bridge is legit hardware and the neck is cool it's thicker near the lower strings and thinner at the higher strings and the fretboard is roasted maple with wenge and padauk wood, so it's a really fast neck

Never played a headless before, but I don't think i'll go back

[wind mauve]

so how is tuning? that was marked as one of the issues for the legator i was looking at, i was told i might need a tool to access the pegs better

[balmy drift]

I like the tuners on this one, they're smooth, i'm going to keep them slightly oiled to keep them functional

But i haven't had the tuning change once and i've had it outside in the Canadian cold and back into warmth again

[gritty garden]

Reinvesting the challenge stream money I see 😎

[balmy drift]

yeah partly

[wind mauve]

oh excellent, didn't know that you were a fellow canuck

altho like i said the one i'm eyeing is a legator so it might be slightly different

one review the guy noted the tuners were incredibly tight, but i mean, you can oil them like you said so idk maybe he was just lazy

[balmy drift]

Yeah, and that's why QC on your part is key

If you can test it before hand it's incredibly beneficial

[wind mauve]

unfortunately i cannot

[gritty garden]

Better than me, I'm playing with the stock market with a tax Free ISA (Roth IRA to the American folk)

[wind mauve]

the only place i have found besides the actual legator website with the guitar is american guitar center

but all of the issues people have had are very easily fixed

[balmy drift]

Hey, you play it right, you'll be able to afford the Lambo before Caleb

[balmy drift]

NICE

[wind mauve]

like, oil the tuning pegs, uncrew/reposition/screw the pickups in, replace strings, change the action on the bridge, learn to play fanned frets

and like

i get wanting your shit to work out of the box and all but the issues people have are like, arguably something you should expect?

[gritty garden]

The projection for when I retire is 1mil so maybe with all the dividends and compounding 😂

[wind mauve]

like if my guitar shows up from another country and i need to do some cleaning up after it was shipped and (mis)handled

im not gonna mind

[toxic wharf]

I would forego on Legator guitars man

[balmy drift]

That's always been my thinking, but i don't suggest doing deep repairs on a guitar if you're not experienced

[toxic wharf]

They are notorious

[gritty garden]

There's also the notion that for artists and people with a public presence they likely get ones that have a higher level of QC etc than your standard buyer. Hence why some reviewers do a secret shopper type thing to see if they're the same.

[wind mauve]

i mean yeah, if/when i get it it's going to my luthier mutal friend to get the pickups swapped and a full setup

[gritty garden]

So seeing Berried Alive showcasing his insane Legator, they knew he would likely do that so reduced any negatives as much as possible, almost to an absolute zero

[wind mauve]

eh, from the reviews i've seen i think i'd quite like the one i'm looking at

[toxic wharf]

Im sure this is the case for some, but I think many signature models do have some standard to maintain before big artists would tie their name to them.

[wind mauve]

the one reviewer bought a six string ghost (i'm going for a 7 myself) and one of the higher end signature models and basically the main difference was that he didn't like the construction of the ghost or the pickups and on the signature he commented that it came with fishmans so it sounded like every other guitar and also he didn't like the body shape

[toxic wharf]

Yeah, this is very probable

[wind mauve]

which like

[toxic wharf]

Especially since Legator has a huge QC problem.

[wind mauve]

literally that's all subjective

[toxic wharf]

Uhm...

[wind mauve]

there were no actual issues he found with the ghost

aside from again, he felt like the construction wasn't as good as the $3000 signature model, and he didn't like the stock pickups

[gritty garden]

True. But take Jim Root for example, his stage/tour model white Jazzmasters are US spec with the compound radius etc. compared to the model you can actually buy which is Mexican made without the compound. There's also a weight difference and a few other differences I'm sure.

US Spec manufacturing will have the higher quality checks compared to the more affordable Mexican models

[toxic wharf]

Yeah fair point. I think thats always gonna be the case when cheaper signature models are also on the market. I doubt Vai has really played that Jem555 or whatever it was that was a sub 800 dollar guitar.

[gritty garden]

Essentially though try before you buy and don't be afraid to send stuff back if it's not what you thought. Distance selling regs exist for a reason

[toxic wharf]

I guess depending on the price it might be worth the risk if you really want it.

I wouldnt even buy a Abasi Larada Legion currently since for the price they should definitely get rid of any QC issues. I think any guitar thats above 800 or above should at least have a trustworthy reputation in that regard.

[wind mauve]

well for me the price comes out to about $1400 CAD

[toxic wharf]

Geez

[wind mauve]

its about $999 USD but

you know

canada

[toxic wharf]

I dont know, maybe they have really improved on QC. I just find it such a bad business strategy to bum out on QC at first.

[wind mauve]

i mean my buddy who's friends with the aforementioned luthier has a legator that he got recently

and he loves it

altho i have heard that their quality control was lacking when they first started out they seem to have really cleaned it up

but yeah they did leave a bad impression on a lot of people

[toxic wharf]

Yeah, even not long ago I heard their lower end models had a lot of tuning stability issues :/

[wind mauve]

i mean the ghost isn't their lower end model really

it's the, i want to say ninja? the one that actually has a headstock

but those are like 300-500 USD iirc

[gritty warren]

Afternoon all Uk bassist here! and a rig photo for context! Andy

[wind mauve]

the ghost is medium end unless you get one of the special ones that are made in japan instead of SK and come with fishmans and a killswitch

(and are also $3000)

[toxic wharf]

Yeah, here the higher end Legators are 2200 euro's...

I would like to try one of the Japanese made ones

[wind mauve]

pretty sure any higher end legator is japanese made

and the rest are all SK made

and i mean hey my car and my main in SF are both SK as well so like, it should be fine

[fierce jackal]

my setup

i use this fuzz

[dry parrot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdeqqfTW3_Q
think this is interesting, seeing how pickups arent the gateway to perfect tone

[inner mauve]

W today bois

got the Archspire Bleed The Future tabs

now I get to use my 8 string with a purpose

[dry parrot]

if u need any tabs i got ug pro so i can send pdf files if u want, free of charge

just obviously not like 100 tabs

but if you're looking for one or two i can see if ug pro has it and send the pdf here

i know its bad sometimes but somewhere to start 🤷‍♂️

[ebon relic]

Bleed the Fingers more like

[mossy osprey]

Made some guitar picks from old plastic cards and a plastic box that used to contain butter (upcycling for the win ♻️💪) and made something to store them in too. The picks work surprisingly well haha

[gritty garden]

@fiery bluff
https://guitargearfinder.com/lessons/how-to-read-guitar-tab/
https://guitargearfinder.com/guides/read-standard-notation/

[fiery bluff]

Thx bro

[opaque fern]

Alright this might be a weird question, but has anyone else gotten a small shock in their hand after playing?

Anytime I spend like 30 minutes practicing in higher frets (10-20) anytime I touch my computer mouse I’ll get a small shock in my wrist on my strumming hand. But if I stay in lower frets than I have no issues.

I don’t know if anyone else has had something similar/ knows how to stop this, I want to keep practicing but I don’t want to electrocute myself.

[elfin crane]

Alright so I've been playing 6 string guitar for a while now, into my fair share of deathcore, nu metal, modern metal stuff like that, but now I saw a sweet deal on an 8 string guitar and wondering if it might be the ideal tool to help me in my solo death metal work? Or do I modify a 6 string maybe? If anyone has experience with an 8 string and can let me know if it's suitable for my kind of genre/situation and what they're like I would really appreciate the advice

[graceful socket]

I mean it really depends on what you want to do, whether you want more notes and longer scales or just a lower more bassy sound because for that you dont need an 8 string

[elfin crane]

Well I'd like to have more range of notes, in lower and higher pitches

[toxic wharf]

This...if you want heavier, dont go 8 string. If you feel like you run out of extensions on your arpeggio's, chords and scales and whatnot for the ideas that are in your head, an 8 string is pretty cool.

[graceful socket]

If it's about going heavier just get a decent pitch shifter

WhammyDT for life lol

[spring zephyr]

Plus with the pitch shifter you can pitch shift up, I know gojira has a song where they do that. It’s a neat effect.

[bronze orbit]

I don’t really play acoustic guitar and I wanted to play Boulevard of broken dreams but apparently I need a capo for that

L

Maybe I can use my pitch shifter to just tune it the same key

Damn it didn’t work I need a capo

[gleaming wing]

B a r C h o r d s

[bronze orbit]

It ain’t in standard tuning I think

[spring zephyr]

You can get an instant black metal tone by turning off the cab in any amp simulator.

[bronze orbit]

Noice

[viral temple]

Bought my first 7 string boys 👀

[gleaming wing]

A solid pick

I have a 6 string gio and I like it

I recently got a 7 string ibanez RG and I love it

[viral temple]

Personally I wanted the schecter omen elite 7, but the Ibanez is what I could afford 😂😭

[gleaming wing]

Yeah I feel you 😂😭

[viral temple]

I feel like playing a 7 string is gonna be weird. I’ve been playing for about likkkeeee 9 years now? Only 6 strings tho, but damn do I want that DUN DUN CHUG CHUG RE RE UNGABUNGA caveman noises 😂😂

Which- in reality I could achieve with only 6 strings

[spring zephyr]

Ernie Ball Beefy slinky

[atomic vigil]

guys help, im gonna get an whammy pedal for my birhtday/christmas and i have no idea ho this works on computer. For context i use Amped Roots and i wanet to ask if i have to connect whammy pedal to amp roots, or can i just plug the pedal in and it works, hop u understand what i mean (pls ping me)

[glacial osprey]

Guitar -> whammy -> interface -> amped roots for basic usage.

Can just use the controls on the whammy itself to do what you need. If you want to midi automate it though, you'll need a midi cable between interface and whammy as well then can send midi commands from a DAW or similar software. The commands you need would be explained in whammy manual

[atomic vigil]

do u mean with midi automate like the online whammy pedals ?

[glacial osprey]

Midi automation allows you to pitch shift automatically without touching the pedal. Similar to how Humanity's Last Breath and many modern bands use it. You'd have a DAW project file corresponding to a song you're playing, and it'd have a channel with midi commands that look similar to piano notes that tell the whammy to do like -4 downtune, +3 uptune, etc when it reaches a certain time in the song. It's more advanced usage but it means you can change tuning mid song multiple times without touching the pedal

[atomic vigil]

ahhh okey now i get it, thank you for ur help :)

[glacial osprey]

Best of luck

[graceful socket]

To ease your concerns, the Whammy's instruction manual goes over all that stuff at least sufficiently and there's tons of stuff on how to do what online

[atomic vigil]

okey thanks :)

[tawny rapids]

very late but I love that silverburst strat!

also, opinions on this idea? first time trying to metal

Also current lineup. Saving for an Ormsby Hype 6 GTR

[cyan sedge]

I aesthetically love that schecter

how do you like the bridge on that tho? I'm very picky with floyds due to my past experience owning a few too many terrible licensed floyds

from what I have tried to understand about that schecter hot rod bridge, it's just an upgraded floyd rose special?

[tawny rapids]

It's a bitch but works. Stays in tune when you divebomb (well since I just had it setup again) but takes a while to restring. I know the new 1000s are more up to date than the Specials, this one's from the 2010s.

[cyan sedge]

ah right on, thanks

[tawny rapids]

Yes. And I didn't like the EMG hot 70, swapped it for a SD Blackout Ahb-1 years ago and regret nothing.

[cyan sedge]

oh right

[tawny rapids]

Also the new Sustainiacs 2010s-present have no volume control on the neck so its full all the time on the neck, which is good for leads (what I use it for anyway). When the sustainiac is off it's an actually spectacular throaty single coil strat neck.

I actually need to adjust the bridge because it's too bowed, smh.

It's a lot of maintainence

but I play it all the time.

[cyan sedge]

yeah I kinda don't like floyds a ton anymore

[tawny rapids]

Definitely don't need another lol

[cyan sedge]

Although this has to be my favourite guitar

[tawny rapids]

maybe a strat with a regular tremolo bridge

[tawny rapids]

What do the toggles to?

[cyan sedge]

I was really looking into the schecter traditional pro model recently

[tawny rapids]

besides pickup selector

[cyan sedge]

they're for the pickups. the pickups don't have a selector switch

[tawny rapids]

Never played it but Schecter make some of the best under 1000s.

I also have the CV-5 bass in that pic.

Not many brands besides maybe Ibanez give you custom appointments with such affordability.

Especially in their new lineups like the Silver Mountain.

[cyan sedge]

I've never owned a schecter, I would like to try a model though

[tawny rapids]

The Traditional Pro looks cool.

[cyan sedge]

I would love either the sun valley super shredder, one like yours, or the traditional pro

a friend of mine has 2 synyster sigs

black and white

[tawny rapids]

The SVSS even the FR S are kinda cheap on Reverb

[tawny rapids]

I had the old black one with the SD Invader bridge but sold it lol.

[bright latch]

Almost ready for the spray paint

[cyan sedge]

building an explorer?

[tawny rapids]

I shouldn't have, I had so many memories and learned a lot with it.

[tawny rapids]

Nice

I want to build a guitar one day. One of those Stew Mac kits would do.

[cyan sedge]

I just got this last month as a gift

[tawny rapids]

Very nice gift

[cyan sedge]

pretty cool guitar

[tawny rapids]

Considering you like Ghost have you looked into the Hagstrom Fantomen?

about a grand

[cyan sedge]

not a huge fan of them. I'd actually take an rd over a fantomen if price was not an issue

[tawny rapids]

sadly very little Gibson RD style guitars out there, I love that body. I'm gonna get a Halo custom with that Defeater RD body one day.

[tawny rapids]

I just have bad experience with gibson quality.

[cyan sedge]

that's fair, I hear a lot of shit about gibson

[tawny rapids]

Then again not a huge fan of Hagstrom either.

[bright latch]

Yeah

[tawny rapids]

Epiphones body some in QC lmao

[bright latch]

I love explorers

[tawny rapids]

the Les Paul Standard 50s and 60s are amazing for 600 new

[bright latch]

Matt Tuck from Bfmv uses explorers

[cyan sedge]

I just don't like how the fantomen looks. it's okay but it feels like a very clear immitation of an rd that just misses completely. weird pickguard, oddly proportioned body

[tawny rapids]

I had a beautiful Hagstrom Viking hollowbody for a month but I just hated the feel and it needed upgrades too.

[cyan sedge]

I mean ghost's lead player doesn't even play a fantomen anymore live

he moved to his personal strats

[tawny rapids]

rip

[cyan sedge]

that's unfortunate

about the feel and upgrades

[tawny rapids]

Weird vintage tuning pegs, neck was WAY too thin for my liking too. Ig I just don't like vintage? It felt thinner than an Ibanez Wizard.

Pickups were bad too.

[cyan sedge]

as someone who has an original 80s wizard neck, wtf

[cyan sedge]

I don't know where the fuck this image came from, or who, but this is a photo of his 4 strats

[tawny rapids]

Super Viking.

Lol this person wants 1200 for it new? I got it 600 used like earlier this year.

[cyan sedge]

oh my god?

[tawny rapids]

It looks great but that's all it's got. the playability didn't make it worth it.

[cyan sedge]

I'd be curious about playing a fantomen somewhere, but I would really want to play one before I ever consider buying one. they just bother me with how they look

[tawny rapids]

Are those seymour duncan noise cancelling?

[tawny rapids]

Fair enough

[cyan sedge]

these guitars are very modified strats so I wouldn't be surprised. a few of them have sustainers, they all have different bridges

some of them are schaller lockmeisters, some are vegatrems, some have been rail tails

black hardware

some of them appear to have ebony boards, but it could just be dyed rosewood or very well treated/conditioned

[bright latch]

I don’t like Floyd rose bridges

[tawny rapids]

look like Fernandes

or SD

[bright latch]

It just doesn’t feel good and it’s hard to set up

[cyan sedge]

I personally believe they are yes

[tawny rapids]

I pay people to set up my FR for me. It is a hassle even to restring.

But I restring every 3-4 months.

[cyan sedge]

I actually prefer the profile and feel of a FR

but I do not like them too much

for their functionality

[tawny rapids]

Endless divebombs and tuning stability though.

I used that Schecter on that idea track I sent

[bright latch]

True

[tawny rapids]

Hmm what else do I have on that guitar

[bright latch]

This my main guitar

[tawny rapids]

Very nice

I've had a few guitars in mind for a more classic HSS or SSS strat.

[bright latch]

Idk how old it is but it feels great

[tawny rapids]

The Ibanez RG Genesis is one although HSH. I'd need to upgrade the pickups because I heard they're bad stocks, and see if I could coil split

I kind of want a single coil neck. But can't seem to find many HSS Ibanez.

I did this with the Sustainiac neck with it off/coil split. The lead then the clean

[bright latch]

The stock pickups suck. I might switch it out for the ones I got on my other main guitar

[tawny rapids]

Or no, the first half was the bridge + sustainiac on

[tawny rapids]

Ibanez and Dimarzio seem to be a common pairing. I love Steve Vai's guitars and his custom pickups.

[bright latch]

Yeah

[tawny rapids]

The PIA3761 is a bucket list guitar

I don't really like neons but the JEMs and PIAs are fun.

[bright latch]

That’s a lot of money

[cyan sedge]

pia's are sick

[tawny rapids]

Indeed. Worth though

Some of the JEMs are double or triple that

Like the 10-20k see through light up anniversary

most I see are 3-4k though.

The black and white PIAs are half that though.

I'd only use the whammy bar to master Bad Horsie. But I could do that now lol

[bright latch]

@cyan sedge I might upgrade the tuners on my explorer that I am making

[cyan sedge]

What tuners are you considering?

[bright latch]

Maybe locking tuners

Cause I am using 10-52 for drop c

[cyan sedge]

ah ok

[bright latch]

Had a bit of fun

[minor cairn]

Bought my first guitar a month ago

[cyan sedge]

floyd as first guitar is possibly not the greatest, but still really cool

as long as you're able to manage it fine haha

I would've gone hardtail personally

[minor cairn]

yeah floyd just looks cooler lol and no worries i changed the strings it wasnt that hard

the b string did pop out 2 times but rather than that it was rlly easy

[cyan sedge]

ah yeah I've had strings slip out of floyds. annoying as hell

[minor cairn]

truuu

this guitar is a second hand so iam thinking of changing the bridge

it has some like rust

[cyan sedge]

go with a gotoh for a replacement bridge 100%

if you find them at the right place, they cost about as much as a floyd special, and I like gotohs more than actual original floyds

gotoh's are #2 in my tier list for floyd style trems

gotoh ge1996t

[minor cairn]

are gotohs better?

[cyan sedge]

from my experience yes

I personally think gotoh does a better job than actual floyd rose and they cost like half or more than half of an og floyd

[minor cairn]

the thing is i dont think i might be able to find it in my country but i will keep in mind for sure

[minor cairn]

what do u think abt the pickups should i change them

i dont rlly like the sound that much tbh

[cyan sedge]

that's fair

[cyan sedge]

ah ok

[bright latch]

Thoughts?

[minor cairn]

Is that a guitar body?

[deft reef]

Dream guitar

[brazen ridge]

Does anyone have recommendations for good guitars for around 600?

[deft reef]

If you can find it on sale schecter cr-6

[toxic wharf]

What type of guitar are you looking for?

[wind mauve]

is that the dan sugarman one

[bright latch]

Yeah

[deft reef]

Idk

[brazen ridge]

One that can play metal well and isn’t a fender with humbuckers

[brazen ridge]

Alright!!

[toxic wharf]

Fender with humbuckers? 🤔

[brazen ridge]

Yeah I am from the future haha

[toxic wharf]

Single coils are getting hot now

[brazen ridge]

Haha

I just don’t like the way fenders look

[toxic wharf]

Ah yeah, thats fair. I personally like strats a lot

[brazen ridge]

Eh it isn’t for me

[viral temple]

Someone just got their first 7 string

[cyan sedge]

yooooo

[fervent fox]

Thought I drop this off here figuring the Axe Fx kids (like myself) or any modeler enthusiasts might be interested

[cyan sedge]

I personally use helix native

I am overall interested in modelers

I've kinda wanted to try an axe fx

[fervent fox]

The older models go for cheap these days. Shouldn’t be hard to find one

[cyan sedge]

yeah. 2's are decent?

they go for like 700 here

I'd be fine with that

a 3 is way out of my league rn

[fervent fox]

$700 is a better deal than paying $1700 lol

[wind mauve]

frfr on god no cap?

[cyan sedge]

oh sorry I was confused. ultra's are 700, there's a 2 here in canada for 1400 cad

[fervent fox]

That’s still not bad

[cyan sedge]

right on

[fervent fox]

I started out with the 2 but moved up to a 3 because….i got lucky lol

[cyan sedge]

fair enough

as I was saying I personally use helix native atm

I don't have consistent money to buy an actual helix pedal. I could if I wanted to blow an entire paycheck and go broke

[fervent fox]

There is financing if your patient and know what your doing

Personally I like to trade to knock down a high price

[cyan sedge]

I would prefer not because my job is really uncertain and I wouldn't trust myself with it. my money is based on percentage of a game from my indie studio. it's really not consistent at all

I probably would do something like that if I made more, or a far more consistent amount

and it doesn't help that I am my familys paycheck half of the time

[deft reef]

Ivenez

Does anyone know how to darken a fret board

[cyan sedge]

probably dye. I've seen people do it this way

[severe flume]

Love this

[deft reef]

That but red

[brazen ridge]

Nope Blue on that looks to amazing.

[deft reef]

I bet

[severe flume]

It's a Floyd Rose too

I love Solar Guitars

[severe flume]

This kind of blue?

[atomic vigil]

does someone know the tuning for Bathed In Solitude - Termina ?

[minor cairn]

hey guys my guitar goes out of tune almost every 1 or 2 days and i have to use the fine tuners

is it normal on a floyd rose?

i dont use the whammybar at all

[toxic wharf]

No, a good double locking system should stay in tune better than most non-floating bridges (unless its something like an evertune).

So theres something with the set up or maybe you forgot to stretch the strings?

[cyan sedge]

floyds should not go out of tune at all. that's kinda what they were made for

your guitar has a really low end licensed floyd which is probably why you're having tuning issues

[toxic wharf]

Or low end floating trem bridge could be a problem too.

[serene pine]

I want a six string for metal that I can tune to drop D and standard

idk what to get

I want to play shit like metalcore and stuff and I want to pair it with a Digitech pitch shifter so I can go really low without having 10 seperate guitars on each tuning

and I want it to look cool

I want Niks Ernie Ball one but too expensive

[toxic wharf]

Buy a Ernie Ball Sterling?

Its like the korean or indonesian made version of Music Man

[serene pine]

still 800 uid for one

quid

i aint rich enough

[toxic wharf]

Save some before spending on a guitar

[serene pine]

currently looking at a Solar guitar

[serene pine]

I don't make a lot of money

[severe flume]

Solar Guitars is the way

[serene pine]

looking rn

https://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/product/181130335547006--solar-guitars-s26c-carbon-black-matte?gad_source=1

would this one be good

I like it

[severe flume]

There's even some 7 strings for the same price as a 6

[serene pine]

nice

I've already found the 7 string I want

[severe flume]

they have 8 strings too

[serene pine]

I want a Schecter Damien 7

currently on sale on the schecter store for $749 so thats good

[severe flume]

In the same style as the one you showed

More expensive tho

But a floyd rose

[serene pine]

my only working electric has a floyd

the end of me

ive been stuck in E standard for idk how long

[severe flume]

Then consider buying a digitech

[serene pine]

I am

[serene pine]

.

[severe flume]

Yeah good

i got one like 6 month ago and it's amazing

[serene pine]

I can imagine

so need it

[severe flume]

i'm gonna change my amp soon tho

[serene pine]

what you looking at?

[severe flume]

idk yet

[serene pine]

I'm currently running a Boss Katana 50 MK2

but I mostly use my Spark Mini with some random premade tones cuz that's in my room

[severe flume]

I just have a Fender Mustang I (V.2)

and a mighty plug pro (not sure if that counts as an amp)

[serene pine]

yeah it's an amp

the most simple amps literally just amplifies the volume, that's the meaning of amplifications

so that is an amp

[cyan sedge]

I have a 50 mk2

I don't use any of my amps anymore

[serene pine]

such a good amp

[severe flume]

Why not

[cyan sedge]

I have a hybrid marshall head, mk2 50 katana, a peavey 212 combo, a few other small things

[cyan sedge]

I use helix plugin now

[serene pine]

thinking about the boss multipedal

[severe flume]

ah so great

[cyan sedge]

I bought helix native last year

great plugin

[serene pine]

plugin warrior right here

[severe flume]

oh btw Solar made their first pedal

and it fcking chugs

[serene pine]

the chug?

looking at that rn lol

[severe flume]

Yep

[serene pine]

like its literally on my fucking screen

[severe flume]

The name speaks for itself

[serene pine]

fr

only 200$ as well

[severe flume]

there's a test video link as well if i'm not wrong

[cyan sedge]

plugins 4 lyfe ez

[serene pine]

plugins dont satisfy

[cyan sedge]

that's fine but that's absolutely your opinion

[serene pine]

unless you have good speakers

[severe flume]

They do imo

[serene pine]

way better sound with a proper amp

[cyan sedge]

yeah idk

[serene pine]

yeah but you have to have decent speakers

[cyan sedge]

I don't have thousands of dollars to drop on good amps all the time

also I just like having options with helix native

[severe flume]

Def not the same

[serene pine]

true I understand that

[serene pine]

tru

[severe flume]

If you plug your plugin in the return thing it won't have the tone of the amp as much as if you were to plug it in normally

[cyan sedge]

I'm pretty ok with how helix native sounds

look past my sloppy playing, just listen to the tone

[serene pine]

ye

[serene pine]

sounds goood

[serene pine]

aint that bad

beter than me 💀

[severe flume]

see?

[serene pine]

I never said they are bad

I said you should have good speakers to accompany them

or headphones

[severe flume]

I have a JBL Tune710BT and it works pretty good

[cyan sedge]

rn I use audio technicas

ath m50x

[serene pine]

yeah they seem good

the only pair of headphones I have are gaming ones

my speakers are Logitech z200s

so cheap asf

[severe flume]

Yeah they are and they have a great battery time when you are in Bluetooth (as someone who listen to music with headphones all day long)

[serene pine]

fr

the thing is I need wired with my interface

scarlett solo only does wired

[severe flume]

I have a speaker but i almost never use it cuz i'm gonna get kicked out of the house if i play my favorite Infant Annihilator tracks

[serene pine]

aha fr

[severe flume]

The JBL i have are wired too

[serene pine]

nice

I have an Arctic 9x

from steelseries

[severe flume]

is it any good?

[serene pine]

for gaming ive found it to be half decent

but I don't have a lot to compare it with

[severe flume]

Oh btw i'm planning on drawing their logo

[severe flume]

And for music?

[serene pine]

that wont be easy 💀

[serene pine]

never used it

i dont have a jack for it

3.55mm to 1/4" jack needed

[severe flume]

ah i've already drawn Slaughter To Prevail, Lorna Shore, Gorepig and i'm currently doing Immortal Disfigurement

[severe flume]

Oh what

[serene pine]

damn can I see?

[severe flume]

sure

It's not that great tho

[serene pine]

yeah cuz it's wireless it didnt come with one, there's a jack in the headset for it tho

[severe flume]

wich one do u wanna see

that's weird

[serene pine]

all them?

[severe flume]

bluetooth headphones should always come with a charger and a cable

[severe flume]

alr

[serene pine]

they mightve ive had them for a while

I probably have onme hiding somewhere

[severe flume]

I will send them in #🎨-art tho

[serene pine]

ty

[severe flume]

cause idk if i'm allowed to send non guitar stuff in here

[serene pine]

i dont think it matters too much

like a few images

but tbf others should see so post in art

[severe flume]

Do e

Done

Idk where i put my Slaughter one tho

[serene pine]

too bad

stp is my fav

[severe flume]

i plan on drawing Infant Annihilator, Immortal Disfigurement and Signs Of The Warm soon

[severe flume]

Love this band

[serene pine]

idk how ur gonna draw them 💀

[serene pine]

fr

[severe flume]

Courage, patience and sense of details

[serene pine]

fr

[severe flume]

idk why i always put myself through these

i'm fcking crazy stupid

[serene pine]

😭

[severe flume]

the end feels good tho

[serene pine]

i can imagine

[severe flume]

not when i fcked up some parts but mostly feels releasing

[serene pine]

aha

[severe flume]

Infant Annihilator's logo is intimidating tho

Because it's just

Unreadable and the letters are very wide

[serene pine]

yesah no clue how ur gonna do that one

[severe flume]

eh

I'll figure it out when the time will come

oh btw i got this 20€ titanium pick recently

[serene pine]

i dont understand metal picks

seems like plastic would just be easier to use

[severe flume]

Do you understand pop picks?

[severe flume]

I'm a bassist

so nope

Idk any 3mm plastic picks

[serene pine]

oh fair

[severe flume]

plus titanium looks good

[serene pine]

idk what those r

[serene pine]

true

a girl gave me a necklace with a pick on it

a few yars ago

[severe flume]

damn

lucky you

[serene pine]

aha

nothig happened

I probably should of asked her out

but I was 14 💀

[severe flume]

i mean if a girl gives me a necklace pick i'm falling in love instantly

[serene pine]

it was actually only a year and a bit ago

not 2

[serene pine]

aha fr

idk if it would be weird to start wearing it again

[severe flume]

idk

depends

do you still see her?

[serene pine]

ye

[severe flume]

then kinda

[serene pine]

we stillfriends

i sit nedxt to her in spanish 😭

[severe flume]

not weird if you're interested in her tho

[serene pine]

tru

ive thught about it

idk

[severe flume]

it's that simple

do you like her or no

[serene pine]

not really

i'm in a shitty situation

I feel like that would be bad for her

[severe flume]

wdym

[serene pine]

another girl

a really bad situation

it's more me than another girl

bad mental state

[toxic wharf]

Objectively not the case, but I do get the appeal of a good amp.

Theres no proper sonic difference between a good modeller and a good tube amp.

And ive been playing quite expensive tube amps until relatively recently.

[serene pine]

yeah ig

[toxic wharf]

Check out my metal riff

[serene pine]

theres a forum post for feedback

[brazen ridge]

So beautiful

Also I never played Solar guitar but there is one I really want!!Should I wait until Ola puts it on the everyday sale?Do solars do good and feel good

[verbal fossil]

i have a 7 string solar S1.7APP and it feels amazing to play it's not a 2 serie like shown as 2 series are lower budget but i doubt the quality will drop by that much

i have an LTD version of jeff ling's sig of PWD and it feels nowhere near the solar imo

the jeff ling sig is 1k€ and the solar is 1.5k€

i think it's 1.6k€ for the solar now

[severe flume]

Never played one yet but for sure plan on getting one (7 string)🤘🏻

[brazen ridge]

Thanks guys the one I want is

Or the 7 string version.

[verbal fossil]

the one i have is this one

[brazen ridge]

So pretty

That type of green and bright orange are my favorite colors.

[verbal fossil]

and it looks like this IRL

[native sandal]

Are axe fox ultras any good?

[brazen ridge]

So pretty holy cow!!

[verbal fossil]

#1095992147968262144 message and here is how it sounds it's a link to a track i made and sent in #1095992147968262144

oh it shows the path when you post the link now nice

[severe flume]

The 7 string is at the same price as the 6

[brazen ridge]

I don’t know what to get then

Probably 6

[severe flume]

Personally i'd get the 7 version

[brazen ridge]

I like 6 more than 7

[toxic wharf]

Chad move. I respect you

[brazen ridge]

Yup I am such a Chad.

[severe flume]

Depends

kinda hot take

[brazen ridge]

I know but that’s what I like haha

[severe flume]

I mean i respect it but it can be a very hot take for some people

[brazen ridge]

I know that ,It shouldn’t make anyone mad though haha.I do love my 7 string to

[severe flume]

9 string is the most i'll get.. just to play the Doom Eternal soundtrack

thanks Daddy Gordon

[verbal fossil]

tbh i used to play almost only on 6 strings but when i got my 7 strings solar i'm 24/7 on it

[severe flume]

Lol does it play well? I'm interested in buying one

[verbal fossil]

i said everything here if you want

[severe flume]

gonna check

[gentle granite]

anybody have a good free plug in theyd like to share with me?

[blissful flume]

hey, i was wondering if i could get some opinions. i’ve been wondering when you guys started buying/using pedals. i’m coming up on a year of playing soon and i’ve been wanting to try some, however i don’t know if it’s too soon (also if you guys have any recommendations, lmk). thank you🩵🩵

[toxic wharf]

Hi, depends what you wanna do or currently doing. If you are playing live it would be good to invest perhaps in something like a Line 6 Helix and spend the extra money. If you just gradually wanna get into pedals and effects something like an overdrive or perhaps a delay would be a nice start.

Better would be both and it doesnt need to be super expensive. Ive played for many years and if I play analogue I would still use a Boss SD-1 which is maybe like 50 dollars?

[graceful socket]

It's entirely dependant on what you want to achieve and what you're currently working with. Depends on whether you want to play live or not, whether you're playing on a physical amp and what features it has or if you're playing an ampsim, it depends on what you're playing and what tone you want to achieve but in general I'd say there's no real right or wrong time to get into pedals. You should at least somewhat know how to dial in tones with it but even that you can technically work around by just trying shit

[gritty warren]

https://youtu.be/u98ukySF7Fo?si=Vt9W6nfu2N3w9XFn

[gleaming wing]

New guitar ❤️

[wind mauve]

oooh

[toxic wharf]

Those Ibanez acoustics are solid. I have one as well...more traditional but has fishman pick ups

[gritty garden]

What amp do you currently have? Most people invest in the amp first as that's where most of the tone comes from. Then they use pedals to shape/control it better.

[minor cairn]

Iam a beginner and iam using a cheap sound processor u think i should buy a amp or keep using the processor?

It sounds alright tbh

[gritty garden]

I mean you can get pedals it was just something to think about

[weary niche]

So i've had these axe guitar picks for a Few years now. I'm a self-taught guitar player. Just trying to get indo more technical stuff now. I started to realize that I think these pics are kind of bad for sweeping? Does anyone else have any recommendations on good pics for pet weeks like hybrid or sweeping? I kind of want to be able to do everything and need a solid pick

One of those self-taught things where I'm like. Do I need to suck it up in practice? More or am I pissing in the wind l o l

[serene pine]

I use Jazz IIIs

[weary niche]

I'll look em up!

yah mine have no flexibility so it's pretty clunky

[severe flume]

This is my titanium pick

3mm on the grip part

[serene pine]

are titanium ones any good?

I feel like they'd be hard to sweep with

[severe flume]

I mean they look good and feel good but personally i don't like the tone they give

Idk about sweep pick tho i'm not good enough to talk about that

[serene pine]

same icl 😭

[weary niche]

that's a thiiyack boi

[toxic wharf]

But no flex is good for sweeping

[weary niche]

oh interesting I watched some video once he Said he liked a lil give. good to know tho

[deft reef]

Is this normal

[glacial osprey]

Your string said no more 0s

[deft reef]

How does it even happen

[glacial osprey]

Looks like core snapped and is hanging on by the windings. Maybe just from tightness over that angle

Just needs a string replacement

[deft reef]

It was c# or standed slinky could I I’ve been picking to hard

[toxic wharf]

The problem with a flexible plectrum is that a plectrum 'drags' while you want a fast attack for control

[verbal fossil]

i had the same thing but on the nut of my 7 string on a 74 gauge string

it snaped like that after a bend at the 1st fret lmao

[toxic wharf]

dude ive been looking for a good 7 string guitar in the 300-400$ price range that wasnt a jackson

just came across the s by solar thing

im

actually about to fucking explode this is so cool

ive always loved solar's body shape and that curved reverse headstock

and now i can get that for an affordable price!!!?!?!?!?!?!?

okay i know that price range doesnt sound like a lot but after conversion to my currency and shipping costs it really does add up to a lot

[deft reef]

If your willing to do 100 more you can get a schecter

[toxic wharf]

theres another problem

s by solar doesnt ship to my country apparently

i checked solars (the first one) and they do ship to my country BUT its 119$ 😭

[deft reef]

Wait count one

Found one for you

400 7 string

White and black

[deft reef]

This one work

[toxic wharf]

doesnt ship here either

also id prefer if you could keep it around 300

because shipping costs on average are 50-100$

my other options are harley bentons or jacksons since those have the extra scale length that the solar one i just sent doesnt have

if i can get a good jackson id be set

but

i have to get a good jackson

which is impossible thanks to their amazing qc on their entry level guitars

[deft reef]

Ibenez has one for 250

[toxic wharf]

NONE of them look good

actually this one isnt that bad

[wind mauve]

why is the switch there

thats odd

my ibanez has it under the dials

[fervent fox]

Sold my Ibanez RGDIM6FM (funny serial coded name am I right lol) over the weekend. Just fueling up for the ESP guitar I reluctantly bought.

[severe flume]

Ibanez are great

only bad point is their CIHaj38Mzi8Ozma names

[deft reef]

Why when always so long man

[severe flume]

Idk dude

[deft reef]

Like how am I supposed to tell some I want the Ibenez grtsi68-69wizp98

[fervent fox]

I think the first 2 or 3 letters are all your supposed to remember lol

[toxic wharf]

the gios dont look that great + only 25.5 inch scale

thw solar one looked so good i didnt mind it

same canf be said here

[vocal hearth]

Guitarists in the discord, I just made a riff that has a part that completely denys music theory and the key the rest of the riff is in. But it sound badass. Should I keep it in?

[deft reef]

Who cares about music theory keep it

[glacial osprey]

Maybe you only THINK it denys music theory

[vocal hearth]

Maybe

[toxic wharf]

Probably what @glacial osprey. Music theory is not a set of rules to which you can or cannot abide. It just gives a theory giving an explanation on why a set of notes or chords work well together

[vocal hearth]

Alright thanks

[toxic wharf]

Finally sold my Peavey 5150 III for a reasonable price.

[blissful flume]

i apologize i just saw this now. i use the fender mustang LT25

[lethal fractal]

I'm curious about what hard case would be good for my new 9 string... I've just been running a gig bag as I won't be taking it anywhere all to much but plan to in the future.

[toxic wharf]

If its an ibanez theres a recommended gig case on the website.

Just look for the guitar and than somewhere around the specs it should say that.

Especially with 8-9 strings Id just get the recommended gig case.

[lethal fractal]

I did not know they did that... that makes that easier thanks.

[balmy vortex]

Since we've had this guitar hanging on the wall, I had to try it out at least once through our in store rig.
PRS PV Semi-Hollow Special Citrus Glow into an ENGL Ironball SE through an Evh 5150III Stealth 2x12 cab

[fervent fox]

This popped up on my feed. I’m in love

[cyan sedge]

that headstock makes me want to shrivel up and die

[fervent fox]

I take it Dean is out of the question

[cyan sedge]

dean headstock is cringe too

it works for dean shapes but otherwise pass

[fervent fox]

Their V headstocks are a bit much but the their Explorer headstocks are pretty cool

[cyan sedge]

some dean shapes work with theire headstock

explorer, razorback, ml

their v's look terrible with that headstock

[waxen wadi]

yall got any amp recos? not tryna break the bank but what a badass super versatile amp w great sound. so far have a boss katana mk2 100w, looking at a line 6 catalyst 200w 2x12 combo. any input or thoughts to help me out?

[fervent fox]

Sticking with a combo or going to head and cab?

[waxen wadi]

would love a head n cab but its out of my budget as far as i know

every head i see is like 1000+

[fervent fox]

Hmmmmm try looking around Reverb. Look up brands like Blackstar, Marshall, and if you’re willing to push the budget just a tad: Friedman. If your really looking for that “badass super versatile amp” your either gonna have to buy used or suck it up and save up some cash. The best amps aren’t gonna be cheap unfortunately

[waxen wadi]

thats fair.

i might just end up saving tbh but idk if i can buy everything i need in one go, hence why i asked for recommendations

[fervent fox]

You can always try financing! Some places offer Affirm or “pay as you play” deals. Its not for everybody but it’s one of the recommendations out there 🤷🏼‍♂️

[waxen wadi]

i might check out financing

[toxic wharf]

Which Archetypes are we buying on the black friday sale?

[wind mauve]

mesa boogie mkII has been convincing so far

gonna look at granophyre as well

and the soldano

[toxic wharf]

If you wanna go for that one might as well gor for Petrucci and for the Soldano the Plini or perhaps even the Nolly

Granophyre is very good at the thing it does

[glacial osprey]

My favorites are the soldano, nolly, and gojira

[wind mauve]

yeah i probably would go for the petrucci

haven’t tried the plini or the soldano yet tho

the nolly one didn’t exactly grip me when i tried it

[toxic wharf]

Should apply it to the mix. It doesnt sound as good as some otherst standalone but sounds very very good in a mix. Same goes for Plini tho and might be more your jam

[wind mauve]

the distortion sound just wasn’t what i was looking for

plini might be better and i do listen to plini stuff so i know what to expect

mostly what i want is something with a more classic high gain sound than Abasi offers

possibly with some of the newer little bobs like the doubler and transpose

[toxic wharf]

Also the blend function had be incorporated into Plini for the cleans

[wind mauve]

i haven’t heard of this, looks like i know what i’m doing once i get home

[lethal fractal]

For recording guitar is there a way to reduce/eliminate the picking noise well playing the higher strings?
I have tried picking angles, different picks, grips and so on... It always cuts through.

[wind mauve]

what are you using to record your guitar?

[lethal fractal]

Haven't really done any recording just what's coming out of my speakers... is it possible to eliminate it through a DAW, mainly what I'm asking.

I have only put a mic up to my speakers and been recording that been to lazy to record through a DAW or anything.

[wind mauve]

through a DAW you will only hear the direct input and any digital effects you add to that input

so yes

there will be no picking noise just the noise that the guitar makes

[cyan sedge]

^

I like the sound of a little picking noise but usually it gets buried in a mix

whatever noise that comes through the signal ofc

[lethal fractal]

Wouldn't my speakers be producing the direct input as well?

Just from getting away from the recording aspect and just reducing the noise, is it just always going to be there through speakers and only be eliminated in a mix?

[vocal hearth]

Angel of death- slayer

Any tips?

[lethal fractal]

Play it to a click and slow at first so you can get the patterns down smoothly then start getting it up to speed bit by bit.
I personally would change your tone a bit but that's up to you.

Metronome work is best.

[toxic wharf]

Do you have a delay turned on?

Otherwise its a bit of a technique thing with most most modellers. You really need to put extra effort in muting

[vocal hearth]

I don’t but okay

Thanks

[wind mauve]

@toxic wharf also i wanted to try the imperial tone king nDSP, do you know if that one’s any good?

[toxic wharf]

I was talking to @lethal fractal

[toxic wharf]

Its very good for classic cleans

And a little break up

Just like granophyre and nameless its a bit of a 1 trick pny but great at what it does

[lethal fractal]

Still get picking noise with or without it, clean or distorted... I gave no clue what I need to change with my technique as I have tried abunch of different things.

It mainly shows during tremolo picking up on the first 3-4 strings

[toxic wharf]

Did you play around with the gain? I know what sound you mean. It might be the preamp of your interface but its also partially getting used to it and manage the muting

It might also be latency

You notice any latency?

[lethal fractal]

Yes I did... I have my letancy set to around 7ms I believe.
It very well could be the interface as it isn't the greatest thing ever as you know but for now it's alright just could get annoying for recording, once I'm home I can record a little thing.

As well being brand new to neural DSP and all of this online stuff I could be just messing up stuff.

[toxic wharf]

Yeah its not the latency. 7 ms is quite good

[lethal fractal]

I could reduce it more I believe but I find I just barely notice it when playing its not enough to throw me off 10ms was to much but 7 is fine

[wind mauve]

[toxic wharf]

Yeah, with some driver you can decrease it to 3 ms even

[waxen wadi]

Here’s the new guitar I picked up for my bday. Used, Seymour Duncan Black Winter trembucker at the bridge, Floyd Rose (all I know about it), I forget the scale length but I believe it’s a 24 fret

$560 CAD sheckles

The pickup position switch is hell loose so I can only use both or bridge, and idk if it’s having ground issues or it’s just my amp but sometimes I get the nice lil tingly feeling unplugging the jack, which is also loose depending on the hour

All in all I love it very much and love shredding the bejesus off it

[cyan sedge]

I just saw a bc rich go up for sale for 150 locally

I hate bc rich with a passion but part of me regrets not buying it

I managed to get this from the ad before it sold

[waxen wadi]

i see cool guitar i want cool guitar

idgaf about problems tbh, i just like the looks

where i live most guitars are upwards of $600+ on marketplace and kijiji, even if theyre like $200 at long and mcquade

its so scuffed

[vocal hearth]

Whammy bar noise, no whammy

[dire hamlet]

Looking for some pickups, at a sweet spot between bloodbath and dark tranquillity. Anyone got ideas?

[wind mauve]

well for sounding like bands

you want an amp, not pickups

the amp and effects pedals are gonna get you the sound, and the pickups are going to fine-tune that sound

generally by reducing ambient buzz, hum, etc and also by affecting how strings ring out and the sciency things that result from that

[dire hamlet]

Thx

[dry parrot]

i did the thing with the thing (first time ive gotten a half decent recording) (turn down the volume just in case)

[fervent fox]

Is your guitar Passive or Active?

[wind mauve]

doesn't matter, you can add a battery slot to a guitar

alternatively some guitars come stock with a battery slot even if they don't have active pickups, i.e. legator ghosts

[fervent fox]

I hated the concept of turning a passive guitar into an active or vise versa. If I was to buy a passive guitar I’d keep my focus on passive pickup selections. Same if it was active.

[wind mauve]

i mean i guess

[fervent fox]

Pain in the arse it can be changing out pickups too

[wind mauve]

i don't feel the same attachment but i also doubt i'll be swapping pickups like they're clothes

[fervent fox]

Only did it a couple times when I was starting out. I remember how bad I wanted to have a EMG 81/85 set lol

[dire hamlet]

I was in the process of routing pickup slots, they're passive, body is going to be shaped like a jazz master and neck like an esp neck. I've decided on the pickups, a demazio titan neck pickup and a Seymour Duncan distortion bridge.

[atomic vigil]

For the whammy pedal do i need to buy extra cables or are they included (pls ping me)

[graceful socket]

Nothing included, only the power supply. You´ll need a second instrument cable to go Guitar into Whammy into Amp(sim).
Depending on what you want to do you´ll also need a Midi cable but for playing like you´re used to with an amp just get a second instrument cable

[wind mauve]

seymour duncan should be good for that classic swedish death metal you seem to be going for

in terms of amp you'd be looking for something with high gain and a decently bassy distortion to get closer to bloodbath, or just high gain for DT - i'd try and look for what gear they actually use, and try and find it or it's modern equivalents

[native sandal]

My baby

[blazing flare]

GUESS WHAAAT. I just got my first 8 string!

[lethal fractal]

Welcome to the low tuned club.

Time to learn some Archspire

[native sandal]

Or after the burial if you want easy stuff

[lethal fractal]

I'm learning pennyweight by ATB

Very fun stuff.

[wind mauve]

love that song personally

give me! indication!
give me! separation!
i'm drifting into oblivion

[native sandal]

First thing I’m learning when I get my 8 string is wolf amongst ravens solo

[lethal fractal]

Why do I hate myself 0-0
I'm writing a 2 handed tapping rythm guitar line that's a polyrhythm between the two hands.

[native sandal]

Bros a guitar masochist

[lethal fractal]

Me and my guitar teacher call each other that... We make stupid cords where you stretch like 4 strings and like 6-7 frets

The stretch between frets on a 27 inch or 28 inch scale length isn't much fun.

[native sandal]

Lol I can relate, me and my teacher tried to learn some chords that Allan holdsworth used and it was literal torture

[lethal fractal]

Nice

[waxen wadi]

thank you guys so much for being so kind and helpful

i love you all so much

[nova pagoda]

Hey guys, i'm thinking about buying a 7 string multiscale guitar. My concern is about how hard it is to adapt to that type of scale and an extra string.

Any feedback appreciated!

[verbal fossil]

i've tried a 7 string multiscale legator few years back when i was only playing standard 6 strings and tbh it was not that hard to adapt to but it may depend on your perception too plus the difference between the scale length wasn't that big 27" and 25.5"

i still don't own a multiscale guitar tho

mainly because of the evertune bridge

the day a multiscale evertune exist i'd gladly try a guitar that has it

[toxic wharf]

@wind mauve Ive been playing around with the Abasi archetype. It takes some tweaking but its better than I initially thought

I do have to say that the cleans have become somewhat obsolete now the new Plini has the same Blend knob

[balmy vortex]

Give it 5-10 minutes

5-10 minutes for the multi scale. 7th string depends on yourself and if you can get it in your head that you can still play it as a 6 string

[balmy vortex]

Already exists. Aristides 7 for mike stringer

[verbal fossil]

i've never seen an evertune on any of his multi scale guitars

[balmy vortex]

Aristides just made one, lemme grab a pic

Saw this coming before anything was even announced. I love having friends in the industry that give me fun lil leaks like this before anyone ever hears about it

[nova pagoda]

prepare your wallet bro

[balmy vortex]

Oh that's for sure

The 070s evertune will probably be somewhere in the range of 4100-4700

[verbal fossil]

i don't have that money

[balmy vortex]

[cobalt sable]

What do I do if I want to switch to a higher string gauge ?

[prime sapphire]

Yo guys, idk what to do, it feels like my guitar playing sounds better without a pick. When I hit the strings with my fingers it sounds like I can hear every string but with a pick it sounds muddy and dull

[balmy vortex]

Depends on the guitar

[cobalt sable]

I have an cheap Ibanez 6 string

[balmy vortex]

That doesn't help, imma need to know what bridge whether it's a hardtail or floating and what top nut

[wind mauve]

yeah it's got it's pros for sure but it's definitely for more non-standard and unusual metal tones

i've found that the lead amp, the green one, gets you the best high-gain distortion for like standard metalling

that's why i'm looking at the other nDSPs, i mostly just want something that's as versatile but has a more classic or standard sound

[native sandal]

What gauge pick do you use?

[lethal fractal]

Might want to focus on using the tip of the pick as well and just technique overall.

[prime sapphire]

very diverse, sometimes I use 1.50mm and sometimes 0.58mm but on the thicker strings they both sound muddy

I have to say my strings are thick too I use 60-12

[native sandal]

What tuning?

[lethal fractal]

^

It could also boil down to the pickups or your amp

Less likely the pickups

[prime sapphire]

Drop A, B Standard and sometimes drop B

[native sandal]

I’m assuming in a fender scale length

[prime sapphire]

yea

I know that this is not very optimal

I thought about buying a 7 string or baritone

[native sandal]

I was gonna say if you mainly play in drop a you should go thicker because I could be muddy bc lack of tension

But then again I like really tight strings

[native sandal]

I’d almost say bump the lowest string up to like a 70

[lethal fractal]

The issue then as well you can get strings that are tight but super thick and don't sound good either, jason richardson although plays really light strings.

Well not super tight

[prime sapphire]

it might also be the picks I use, most of em are already flat or just don't feel right

[lethal fractal]

I just woke up so being a bit overdramatic

[native sandal]

That generally starts happening above 80s tho doesn’t it

[lethal fractal]

I play 3mm picks mainly or 3.4mm, though I am playing on a 9 string as well... When playing on a 7 or 6 I play jazz 3s or the other pick like them that are a bit thicker.

You might be able to clean up some of it through your amp settings though I don't know what you have so can't say.

[native sandal]

I play like 2mm and just hammer the shit out of my strings so me liking thicker strings is just because I play super hard, Jason Richardson probably plays lighter than I do so he can get away with lighter strings, I depends on how you strike your strings and how hard

[prime sapphire]

May I send a recording I made with and without pick I think you will hear what I mean

[lethal fractal]

It really depends on a lot... It does come down to play style though hard hard picking can sound really crappy.

https://youtu.be/FHB8oUKyw6E?si=O5EY2lKdoqIK7hBm

[lethal fractal]

Sure

Andrew Baena has his video on string gauges as well.

https://youtu.be/3t2l2X1zZ2A?si=0QWG29a3T2gZmrhG

[prime sapphire]

first one is played without pick and after the short break I used it

[lethal fractal]

Are you picking in the same spot with the pick?

[prime sapphire]

yea

[lethal fractal]

Where you pick can change the sound a lot... can change as well when palm muting as well where your hand is positioned on different strings well palm muting.

Where do you currently pick closer to the neck or bridge?

[prime sapphire]

the neck I think

I try to put my palm as much to the right as possible so I avoid muddy sounds

[lethal fractal]

When palm muting you want to be touching the bridge and the string (generally) there are times you want a different sound... Try picking closer to the bride I mean start right beside the bridge so you can hear what that sounds like as it removes low end. As well play with how hard you are picking and you can do the same well palm muting pick in different spots.
I'd turn down your drive and probably your bass levels on the amp.

[native sandal]

Yeah, I was trying not to be overly extreme with my suggestions but if it was me I’d cut almost all bass

[lethal fractal]

Well not all bass... want some tone. I generally play with bass at 8-10 o'clock mids and highs at 12-2.

It depends on the amp as well.

I need thicker strings for my 9 string... It came with 90 on the low end and its way to floppy going to get a 96 and 105 to see what I like better

[lethal fractal]

Also thicker strings make intonating your guitar much harder

[lethal fractal]

This is a video I like to go to...

[toxic wharf]

Really? I think the middle amp is definitely the most suitable. I find the third amp to be suited for leads, but the gain is overbearing for proper recording purposes.

[wind mauve]

the rhythm amp is neat and i had some alright rhythm tones

but it sounds very, like, plucky? i think?

i can't describe it but the sound feels less like distortion and more like it's just very bassy to compensate

[toxic wharf]

Hmm, I think it can sound plucky yeah. But so can the third amp.

[wind mauve]

i mean it's by design

[toxic wharf]

Yes, its definitely a bit bassy!

[wind mauve]

but the middle amp just feels a lot more like

[toxic wharf]

But you can use the high pass switch

[wind mauve]

"use this and single-coil and make some djenty"

[toxic wharf]

And leave the low pass off.

[wind mauve]

pretty sure that's what i did

and turned the bass down a lot

[toxic wharf]

I never use the low pass on that amp. Perhaps its cool for like thumpy tones.

[wind mauve]

and didn't use the bass on the distortion pedal

yeah thumpy thats what im looking for

it sounds very thumpy

like it's designed specifically for animals as leaders, which i mean it probably is but

[toxic wharf]

I always dial down on any archetype on the 65 HZ and 4K

[wind mauve]

i don't mess with that too much cause i have no idea what i'm doing

[toxic wharf]

But the Abasi one is definitely more 'thick' on the lower end.

[toxic wharf]

Ah yeah, good way to go about it is leave everything at unity and than go completely up and down on each of the parameters.

Its not too hard to figure it out.

[wind mauve]

i'll give it a go next time then

[toxic wharf]

I think Abasi, Plini and Petrucci are now my favourites. I like Nolly a lot too, but current Plini does that with a better clean section.

[wind mauve]

i will have to try out the plini archetype

maybe even today

i also still want to try tone king, mostly because it's called tone king

and i want the greatest tones only so tone royalty should be right up there right

[native sandal]

Fortin nameless is my fav

[toxic wharf]

Lolz. It is very good, but very vintage - the Tone King

[wind mauve]

fortin NTS was the first one i tried

and i actually quite liked it

[toxic wharf]

Really?

I hated that one.

[wind mauve]

interesting

i actually tried nameless shortly after and felt like NTS was just a blanket upgrade on every feature of it

[toxic wharf]

I think nameless is quite decent...but I dont understand why you would spend that amount of money when you have the archetypes that basically do that stuff and more.

[wind mauve]

mhm

yeah like i said im looking for the classic metal distortion style so gojira or petrucci is probably what i'm looking for

plini might surprise me tho

[toxic wharf]

That third amp from Plini is like a victory kraken I think

[wind mauve]

i dont know what that is

[toxic wharf]

Its comparable to a 5150 I'd say.

But with a bit more clarity imo.

[glacial osprey]

Think it was the Nolly and Rabea that had Kraken-alikes

Nolly has a modded Victory of some kind in his archetype

[toxic wharf]

I think the Plini one has not explicitly stated which amps it was modelled on.

But the third one really looks a lot like the kraken.

For Nolly Im sure the 4th is a Kraken and the third a modded 5150

Guessing those amps is pretty fun tbh

[glacial osprey]

John Browne did a recent Kraken MKII review

https://youtu.be/U__iQphg2_g?si=krq7qCmuTukgi_Ab

[toxic wharf]

Such a classy looking amp

[glacial osprey]

If you want to watch him beat the living crap out of his strings in gain 2

I have a Super Kraken and it's so lovely

[toxic wharf]

I have a bogner uberschall collecting dust 😦

I love those amps.

[glacial osprey]

Have to use a Two Notes Captor X so I don't scare my apartment neighbors

[toxic wharf]

I used amps with my previous bands, but if I will ever play live again Im going modeller

It was just too much to drag that thing on stage everytime.

[wind mauve]

that sounds exactly like what i want

[wind mauve]

oh shit the slamurai pedal too? i really want one of those

really really

but idk if they work with audio interface/VSTs so

but yeah if plini's distortion amp sounds like that im gonna fuckin love it

[glacial osprey]

Krakens are sweet. Rabea did great helping design that amp line. Lovely modern gain thats good for extended range but also has good classic gain and pushed clean sounds

[cobalt sable]

How can I see thag

[wind mauve]

just send a picture of the bridge and we'll be able to tell you

you said it was a cheap ibanez so it's probably a hardtail like mine

[glacial osprey]

Non floating trem

[cobalt sable]

Thx

[balmy vortex]

Take it to a tech, he'll need to cut the slots on the top nut of your guitar to accommodate the larger thicker strings

[wind mauve]

@toxic wharf you know what? i'm liking this a lot

this is just some noodling so don't critique it too harshly

but i feel like it's some decent trivium sounding tones

[cobalt sable]

Ty

[lethal fractal]

Does anyone here use Reason to record guitar?

[verbal fossil]

I dont even know it lmao

The closest i have in my mind when i read it is Reaper but never heard or reason

[toxic wharf]

Yeah the tone could use maybe some less low end but you can achieve a lot

[wind mauve]

tbf im used to bassier sounding tones

[wooden condor]

broooo i want this so bad

[lethal fractal]

Well I have started my journey on learning this
https://youtu.be/hTshhL-OVLw?si=mrCfylrrFL34zmcN

I'm also writing it all out in sheet music to practice both reading for guitar and transposing.

Then going to try and figure out the cords and add those.

[bright latch]

What tuning this band use?

https://youtu.be/0iYAOKe8FJc?feature=shared

[lethal fractal]

I would assume its E standard

[opaque fern]

I was given some stuff from my uncle, got a guitar that I plan on modding, but I also got this pedal.

I think it sounds really pretty tbh.

[wintry nova]

May need some advice on what string gauge I would need to get to drop g# on my six string

Would these work?

[verbal fossil]

to me it seems ok tbh but it also depends on the scale length

maybe it can be a bit sloppy but still it's personal preference

i use 11-54 for drop A# but i'm it's what i usually use for drop C and want to switch to 12-56 when i'll get the new 6 strings i want

tbh the ticker string might be ok but the thiner ones can be sloppy

and my 7 strings which is in drop F# on a 26.5" scale length has a 74 gauge for the low F#

[balmy vortex]

We sold 11 of these when they released it

[toxic wharf]

I wouldnt play G# on any regular 6 string. It will sound terrible. Thick strings muddy up the tone real fast. Combine that with loss of string tension amd its recipe for 💩

[balmy vortex]

There are some pickups that can fix that

[toxic wharf]

Im very sceptical about that. Even downtuned extended range with modern fluence tends to terribly mud up at a certain point. Low interval limit is a real thing amd no pick up is gonna fix that

[balmy vortex]

You should see Seymour Duncan jupiters

[toxic wharf]

You would either need a baritone to keep it somehow in check

So your saying theres pick ups that defy physics?

You'd need a tight, relatively thin string to keep a soundwave in check

[balmy vortex]

No, I'm saying there are very ice picky pickups that can clear up G# as long as you have the right strings

[balmy vortex]

That's why I'm suggesting SD Jupiters

Homie. This is my job, we've experimented a lot with this stuff.

[toxic wharf]

But its a pick up. Its not gonna change string tension or string gauge

Yeah still not buying it. It doesnt change the soundwave

[balmy vortex]

The Seymour Duncan jupiters are extremely tight and very much mid and high fr based compared to most pickups. It's an incredibly articulate pickup compared to the nazgul or pegasus

[toxic wharf]

The string will move in the same waveform. No pickup is gonna change that property

[balmy vortex]

You can get thick strings to sound tight with the correct pickup

That's a guarantee

[toxic wharf]

You can correct it to a certain degree, but drop G# on a standard scale length with a thick string..no pick up is gonna make a huge difference

[balmy vortex]

Yes, there are pickups that will.

[toxic wharf]

Pick ups can change some tonal quality but they dont have superpowers

No. Im trusting basic physics on this

[balmy vortex]

There are plenty of people that do drop g# on a mayones 7 string that's 25.4" scale and they can still get it to sound right

Same with Ibanez 7 strings at 25.5

If you can get it to work on a 7 25.5 you can get it to work on a 6 25.5

We've done this before

[toxic wharf]

Youd still need less thick strings than the gauge that was recommended even for G# on a 25.5

But some people dont mind some mud which is fine