Guitars & Bass

[timid cedar]

the baritone neck is 21 frets im pretty sure

medium

30 inch scale if im not mistaken

the jazzmaster is 21 too but

im not sure if its the same scale length

lemme check

[verbal fossil]

baritone is a longer scale so it's not the same scale length

it should be 25.5

on the standard one

[timid cedar]

yeah its 25.5

[timid cedar]

can i get any info out of knowing it's 4.5 inches shorter than the baritone?

keep in mind im not that well informed when it comes to guitar specs

i just kind of know how a guitar works D:D:

[verbal fossil]

the scale length is the length the string ring with no fret used so it's from the nut to the bridge

and if the neck is not the same size the neck socket to the bridge size don't change

and because everything needs to be proportional the part from the neck socket to the bridge should be longer too

it's kinda like stretching an elastic rubber for example you put a mark on the 1/3 of the ruber strech it out a bit to make it longer the mark is still at 1/3 but the 1st 3rd is longer than before as well as the 2 other 3rds basically here the 1st 3rd is the body the neck socket to the bridge and the 2 others 3rds is the neck

i hope you understand what i mean

[timid cedar]

ohhhh ok

so i could experience some issues from the fact that

the neck is a bit out of proportion from the body

[verbal fossil]

yes

[timid cedar]

so longer neck means bigger body too usaully

[verbal fossil]

it's not really the body itself but the bridge placement on the body

longer the scale length further back the bridge will be on the body usally

to give a better example on a bass the bridge is almost all the time on the edge of the body due to the very long scale length compared to a guitar

[timid cedar]

ok so going back to the analogy of the elastic rubber

i need to stretch both ends not leaving one at the same place

[verbal fossil]

yes

[timid cedar]

if we say one end is bridge and the other is neck

or uhh i guess head

not neck

[verbal fossil]

if one side is getting longer the other has to as well

[timid cedar]

alright got it

wait so

if i get a baritone neck

doesnt that mean i will

most definitely need to

change the place of the bridge

and probably give it to a luthier

[verbal fossil]

it depends the place where the neck socket will be place relatively to the frets

but you most likely have to change the bridge's place

[timid cedar]

ohhhh ok this too

what if

what if the neck socket fits perfectly

i'd still have to change the place of the

bridge

or it doesnt matter if th eneck fits perfectly

[verbal fossil]

the dimensions of the neck socket to put it on the body has nothing to with the scale length

[timid cedar]

yeah dumb of me to ask sorry haha

[verbal fossil]

it changes if for example relatively to the fretboard if the neck socket is under the 21st fret or 20th or in between and stuff like this but you have like 99% chance stat taken out of a magician's hat you will have to change the bridge's place

[timid cedar]

sigh...

its so discouraging cause like

a jazzmaster baritone NECK is already out of stock everywhere

at the same time there's barely any jazzmaster baritone guitars on the market

AND they're relatively expensive

[wind mauve]

my buddy lent me his guitar… i think he just wants me to clean it for him

[manic roost]

Any advice for a beginner guitar and amp?

[vestal badger]

Don’t overspend, chances are what you’ll get is gonna be pretty shit, but make sure it’s something you wanna do first

For the guitar, I’ve never owned one but a lot of people go for a fender squier strat

[vestal badger]

Fender also makes some decent cheap amps

[lethal fractal]

Check the used market as well, you can find a lot of good equipment.

As well, depending on what you plan on doing with the guitar and amp and what style you plan on playing, try and find something that can suit your wants and needs. If you can go to a local guitar store and try out different amps and guitars, find something you like, and then look on the used market to see if you can find them cheaper.

[timid flicker]

Firstly you should know what genre you want to play then find a few products that fit your style and budget.
after that, go to a store and try those products and find the ones which speak to you

i as a beginner myself, am trying the same technique

budget products can be really hit or miss

i recently bought an open box 60$ guitar, aside from the 21 frets its very well built keeping the price in mind

also a similarly priced orange crush mini with only three control knobs is very versatile

dont knock anything until you try it

[lethal fractal]

The orange crush mini is alright It doesn't have great projection when using its clean tone, do note I own one and I do enjoy it a lot and it is great for just messing around or just bringing it around with you

[timid flicker]

exactly

its a fun little box

[manic roost]

Idk how to play yet, so is there anything in particular I should be looking for?

[timid flicker]

oh thats not what i meant when i said that

what i mean by that is what type of genre you listen to

and want to learn to play

like for metal you need distortion and for that you would need a guitar with a humbucker rather than a single coil

[lethal fractal]

Its distortion goes AKJHFIUAHJSJK though it has a solid amount of dirt

[timid flicker]

ye

i mean its literally a 9v powered 3w box

[lethal fractal]

Ya

[timid flicker]

what more can you expect from it

even for those specs its quite powerful

[lethal fractal]

Sure is, my local store has some proper orange amps and I really want one the question is "do i need one?"

[timid flicker]

yup

theres a very thin line between hoarding and buying

[manic roost]

Ah

Noted

[timid flicker]

and if you want to play blues i would recommend a strat style guitar

for more versatility you can buy hss or hsh configured guitars

[lethal fractal]

Ya I use all my guitars besides my acoustic as its more a history piece, I use already both my amps depending on what I'm playing then the little orange guy for busking and that sort.

[timid flicker]

hh configuration also works but sometimes the pickup selector is 3 way and is goes from neck - both - bridge position

[timid flicker]

once the amps battery ran out

so i bought a 9v

it didnt give any output

so i put in the old battery

and it worked
turns out it needs alkaline batteries

[lethal fractal]

It sounds like garbage running on just a battery

[timid flicker]

dont crank up the distortion on low battery 😭

[lethal fractal]

haha ya

[timid flicker]

the poor guy hates it

[manic roost]

Aight

I think I have what I need

Thanks for the input y'all

[timid flicker]

make sure to do your research

any doubt you can ask me directly or message here

glad i could be of help

[wet kestrel]

be a good buddy, clean it with water, dishwashing soap, and some vinegar to kill all the germs (ITS A JOKE DONT DO ANY OF IT)

[wet kestrel]

amp: boss katana 100w or yamaha thr 10, green or beige one. Alternative: plugins

guitar: yamaha pacifica, squier affinity deluxe telecaster (just 250 euros, plays great, i own one)

and look into pins in #🎸-old-musician-talk where phrost gathered all needed information for beginners in one file

[toxic wharf]

Honestly wouldnt use vinegar if you dont know what youre doing. It can cause severe oxidization on metal parts

Or even rust if there miniscule damaging

[wet kestrel]

oh okay i was absolutely joking

never do that

[toxic wharf]

For bodywork, depending on the finish its fine

[wet kestrel]

hmmm not sure

[toxic wharf]

But would just use specified cleaners

[wet kestrel]

do you know of people who did that or smth?

[wet kestrel]

this

or only well proven fool proof solutions

[toxic wharf]

You can use vinegar on some finishes as long as you rinse/wipe it of thoroughly afterwards

But Its just not necessary to use it

[wind mauve]

hahaha no i just used my nomad tool

got that dust right off

still reeks of cat hair, which the inside of the bag is covered in

not much i can do about that tho

plays incredibly tho 💯

strings definitely need changing but i'm not dealing with that either, just need it for the week to do a guitar solo for a competition in B standard

[wet kestrel]

as an allergic person, i'd die

[wet kestrel]

couldn't you play in e standard?

[wind mauve]

well the backing track is on a seven string in b standard

my guitar is in drop g

and he hasn’t even opened the case for his in six months, so he lent his

[wet kestrel]

hm

drop g is just a tone lower if you use a 7 string

like definitely doable

it's doable in any tuning

but in this one it's extra easy

[wind mauve]

yeah it’s doable but like

bro offered

and now i have a slightly better guitar for a week or so

[hasty pivot]

Guys I think I found the next purchase

The Harley Benton Amarok damn she’s a fine instrument I love that grey wood tone 🫠

[lethal fractal]

Enjoy

[timid flicker]

i have never seen an ibanez

with locking tuners

[toxic wharf]

Theres several with Gotoh locking tuners

[timid flicker]

oh?

never seen one in my country

any model?

[verbal fossil]

Half of my guitars has locking tuners lmao

[toxic wharf]

I know some in the AZ prestige line have locking tuners...

[verbal fossil]

But only 2 had locking tuners stock

[toxic wharf]

Also some iron label variants have em

[timid flicker]

check india region

[toxic wharf]

No. Im not from India. But Ibanez does have a lot of models with locking tuners

[timid flicker]

i want to knwo

because i have tried many

and never seen one with locking tuner

[toxic wharf]

You can check their entire line up

And than see if they ship to India

[timid flicker]

importing guitars in india

yes bro i would rather set fire to all my money

the courier here

[toxic wharf]

Well than look at their line up, see which ones have locking tuners than check which ones are sold in your country

[timid flicker]

will literally throw anything to anywhere

speedrunning tactics

[toxic wharf]

But Ibanez have a lot of guitars with locking tuners is what Im saying

[timid flicker]

i got your point

but its just suprising i have never seen one

[acoustic cobalt]

RGAIX6MQM

Apparently I don’t have a pic of the tuners

They’re the gotoh ones

[toxic wharf]

Yeqh but theres also the AZ prestige line

Many of em also have gotoh tuners

[acoustic cobalt]

I was just saying based on personal experience

Plus I like the RGA body style more than the AZ

[balmy vortex]

gotoh MG-t locking tuners

[ember inlet]

Hey,
I'm completely new to the guitar world and I'm looking to get my first electric guitar and amp. For the amp I'm deciding between Blackstar ID:Core20 V3 and
Marshall Code 25. Which one do you think is better?

[gritty garden]

Try them both out in person. They may have sounds/frequencies you don't like. I'm not a fan of the Blackstar sound, but it might be up your ally, who knows.

[ember inlet]

Thanks for your advice, but that might not be possible for me. I didn't find a store that has both amps where I live.

[verbal fossil]

new compulsive buy from me

[lethal fractal]

Have you looked online trying to find demo videos?

[ember inlet]

Yeah, but I'm still undecided. Maybe I should just go for one. I can always switch later

[bronze orbit]

Damn I wanna make my pedal board but it is not cheap for what I want

Would this be a better option?

[acoustic cobalt]

The pod go is a good option

Lots of pedals and options

It’s also pretty expensive too 💀

[bronze orbit]

Less expensive

[toxic wharf]

Depends how much quality you want/expect

[bronze orbit]

Maybe there’s one for a bit more with better quality

[toxic wharf]

Maybe the Line 6 m9 or m13 which has pretty transparent fx

But its not an amp modeller

[bronze orbit]

I just need something that’s gonna be good live for effects and stuff

[toxic wharf]

I honestly wouldnt dare to spend 200 bucks on any amp modeller

But for fx the line 6 M series is pretty good

But you would need a seperate expression pedal I believe

Perhaps even the boss GT line

[bronze orbit]

These ones

That is also an expensive modeler

But if it’s good then it would be worth it

[toxic wharf]

I think its based on the Line 6 Helix, so its good for sure.

Yeah, I just read it has the same engine, and the Line 6 Helix has a lot of good effects, so if you gonna use a traditional set up with a tube amp and pedals this would definitely be a good pick I would say.

For the expression pedal you gonna need to check your impedances though. The Roland EV-5 might be mainly used for keyboars, but Im not entirely sure.

[bronze orbit]

I have a fender twin reverb rn

I’m starting to look into gear because my band is planning on start playing in the fall

[toxic wharf]

Thats a good amp. If you gonna play heavy stuff you gonna need a good distortion pedal though

[bronze orbit]

We’re a hardcore band rn mixed with some other genres

Would a metalzone work

[wispy flint]

based

[toxic wharf]

I mean...it 'works' but imo its an unpleasant sounding distortion

[bronze orbit]

I have a distortion pedal but it sounds like shit

Usually I just plug my laptop in through my focusrite and use archetype gojira

I looked and maybe I should get the horizon apex preamp

[toxic wharf]

Thats good stuff for sure

I mean...you should also make a little calculation amd see if you cant just get a good tube amp thats more equipped for metal with the money you are willing to put down now. It depends on what your current priorities are of course

[bronze orbit]

Yeah true but I wanna try to get something that’ll work with that rig if it’s possible

Maybe this but I’d probably still need a cab right

[toxic wharf]

Yes but cabs dont need to be to expensive.

You could also check out Bugera amps/cabs. Massive sounding tube amps that are not that expensive

[wet kestrel]

if you're going to get a modeler you won't need any distortion pedals

[bronze orbit]

Maybe

Either way is gonna be expensive

Getting a new amp and cab setup or getting a modeler

[toxic wharf]

This really depends. Most more budget modellers have crap digital distortion. So yes you wont need it, but even a boss metalzone is better than most

[wet kestrel]

hmmm i don't think a metalzone would be better

in general amp distortion, either digital or analog, is better than pedals

pedals aren't really for metal

[gritty garden]

Pedals are an embellishment. Get 80% of your sound from the amp and use the pedals to shape it

[toxic wharf]

Yeah but @bronze orbit has a twin verb and plays hardcore. So hes pretty dependant on something to drive that thing

[gritty garden]

Fender Twin Reverb as far as I know isn't great for metal

More for blues

[toxic wharf]

Yes

Because it locks a good overdriven sound for it but its a great amp and you can get metaltones out of it with a transparent distortion pedal

So yes, best option is good amp for metal and use a tubescreamer/overdrive to taste but otherwise a good distortion pedal can do the job

[wet kestrel]

get a modeler, use the twinverb as a cab

[bronze orbit]

I’m gonna have a lot of explaining to do to my mom

She’s gonna be like why don’t you want to use your sisters amp

And I’m gonna be like I WANT to use it I just can’t use it for hardcore / a live setting unless I did exactly what I do now using archetype gojira through my laptop into the amp which still may not be that good

Also now the vocalist is telling me he’s trying to get us in for September 29th so like now I really figure it out

[toxic wharf]

Is your sisters amp the twin verb?

[bronze orbit]

Yeah

She use to play guitar at church which was like Christian rock / blues

But then she stopped playing guitar so I got it

[gritty garden]

Lmao my mum questions why I have 8 guitars when I can only play one at a time... So I asked why she has 30+ pairs of shoes when she can only wear one at a time

[toxic wharf]

My fiance be like: its your money to waste

[bronze orbit]

I need a new guitar it’s been 3 years since I got a new one

[toxic wharf]

Lol dude...

[bronze orbit]

And I wanna sell my Floyd rose Jackson

I HATE RESTRINGING IT

[toxic wharf]

FR = masterrace

[bronze orbit]

I wish I just spent the money on a

That’s all I wanted it for

[toxic wharf]

Just put a wedge between bridge and body and restring per individual string if you lazy

[bronze orbit]

Well and it has lock in tuning so it’s a little tricky

[toxic wharf]

Its the same?

[bronze orbit]

Also was my 2nd guitar so

[toxic wharf]

Its a double locking system right?

[bronze orbit]

I think so

[toxic wharf]

If you do it per individual string and keep it in the same tuning its not much more work than a tune-o-matic style bridge

[bronze orbit]

It was a waste tbh not even that but I took it to the guitar shop because it kept buzzing on the lead section and ye said he has no idea what it was cause the wiring was fine and stuff so

[toxic wharf]

Fretbuzz?

[bronze orbit]

Lesson learned try the guitar you pick out

Cause I just read the reviews and I was like well it says it’s good so I guess I’ll get it

[toxic wharf]

Either action to low or neck isnt set up right. It can also be an issue with the nut

[bronze orbit]

Just seems like a big chore rather just get like a pedal for whammy

[toxic wharf]

Fretbuzz, if fretwiring itself is fine can only be a few things. Also the floating bridge needs to be level with the body

[bronze orbit]

I haven’t really played it since like 2021

I got it at guitar center and it had issues already but they said they fixed them and they didn’t

Cause they took it for like a hour to “work on it” which they probably just took a break or something

Guitar center is the only place that sells modern guitars around here the other one is all vintage stuff which vintage stuff is cool but it’s not what I’m looking for

[toxic wharf]

Seems like a bad set up job. Did you try yourself? Get a feeler gauge to measure neck relief and set the action right. 2.0-1.5 mm on low E string and 1.5-1.0 mm on high E for lowest action.

With the bridge levelled and guitar tuned

Neck relief about 0.28-0.3 mm from about the 7th fret with the first fret and last fret fretted

Ive dealt with plenty of badly set up guitars and those guidelines always tend to fix issues with any buzzing or bad playability

[wet kestrel]

i stopped playing my 7 string ibby

used it for several years and almost everything i write was written with it but i'm past the point of using 7s

[bronze orbit]

Probably just sell it back to guitar center or something

I think it was also a bad pick on my end too

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Jackson/JS34Q-Dinky-DKA-M-Transparent-Red-1414766720315.gc?cntry=us&source=4WWMWXGP

I think it’s this one

[lethal fractal]

Are you going to be adding more strings or taking one away?

[silver pewter]

Guys, can i find dimensions of Gibson Explorer's body somewhere?

[opal forge]

Guys we need a bassist to our death metal/deathcore band. Feel free to text me

[wet kestrel]

taking one away, already miss the range but for the style i'm writing in it's not that needed

[lethal fractal]

Ya that's fair, you keeping your 7 around or selling/ sold it?

[wet kestrel]

yeah i will keep it, it's priceless to me

[toxic wharf]

New guitar and amp

[clear barn]

im 13 yrs old intermediate guitar player. Any songs i should learn?

[toxic wharf]

Depends on what u wanna play

[acoustic cobalt]

I see Holcumb. I ask for Holcumb

Can I have Holcumb?

[modest sequoia]

Tendinitis by Jason Richardson is pretty easy one

[acoustic cobalt]

💀

elite choice

[modest sequoia]

Didn't realize you were a jazz fan

[acoustic cobalt]

djazz

[modest sequoia]

I mean the intro is jazz chords

I think

[acoustic cobalt]

idk i just like his music

[toxic wharf]

Really? I think P00mbachoo would be easier

[wet kestrel]

avenge sevenfold stuff, wage war stuff, we came as romans

[modest sequoia]

Mmm no, I think polyrithmic pug would be even easier

[toxic wharf]

Anyone know a good website to buy a used 7-string?

[bronze orbit]

I still never tried to learn through the fire and flames

I know it’s a guitarist challenge but I’d rather try to learn a Lorna shore song because those are pretty tough

[sharp raft]

Reverb

[toxic wharf]

You'll probably break your wrist tho

[toxic wharf]

Ok thnx

[bronze orbit]

I’ve already broken it before

Well I sprained it but close enough

[toxic wharf]

Sprained wrist is so fucking painful

[bronze orbit]

I fell off the top bunk of my friends bunk bed 10 years ago because as I was getting down the ladder fell

[toxic wharf]

Damn

[bronze orbit]

It was so bad cause I couldn’t play video games

[toxic wharf]

That must have been rough😔

[lethal fractal]

My guitar teacher last lesson told me to go learn into the hellfire -_-

[daring sable]

helo

[lethal fractal]

Hi

[daring sable]

how are you doing

[lethal fractal]

Good, how about yourself?

[daring sable]

great

[lethal fractal]

Good to hear

[hasty pivot]

Is it normal practice to do guitar covers / vids where you record it in a daw then essentially play air guitar in the vid?

[toxic wharf]

Yes.

As in mimicking the playthrough....yes it happens a lot. Its not nice, but its common practice.

[sharp raft]

I usually play over the recording and record my actual playthrough.

I make sure the guitars aren't too loud, but they are louder than in the release since it is a guitar playthrough.

https://youtu.be/NzLKQxaGoDs

That's what I did here.

Didn't want to have to do a whole new mix just for a vid, so just played along with the release version, recorded the playthrough in my daw and video, and mixed it so it sounded solid

[gritty garden]

So record then mime in the video

[hasty pivot]

Yea! But I get what Judas was saying I like that way better, so in OBS I gotta mute the audio from my daw and have it only grab desktop sound and while that’s recording I gotta record in my daw simultaneously.. then in the video editor just sync it up.

I like that way better than miming the play though thanks @sharp raft !

[gritty garden]

I mean yeah that works, it's essentially what most people do with covers anyway. They play the track and record the audio in the DAW, while recording with their phone/camera. Then merge the two in Premiere/Resolve removing the camera audio when ready to render

If you do multiple playthroughs and move the camera for each you can also make it a lot more visually engaging than a single static cam. Plus if you mess up in a section you can just pan to the other take/angle

[hasty pivot]

See I tried recording raw from the daw to obs while playing through and obs was lagging my guitar when it recorded so I momentarily thought I was playing out of time all my life haha

It was milliseconds off when I would watch it back was driving me nuts that’s what sent me down this hole

[gritty garden]

Yeah I'm omitting OBS entirely and talking of just doing DAW Playback & Recording combined with Camera footage

[hasty pivot]

Okay gotcha!

[gritty garden]

You only use camera audio to help sync the two audios together

After that it's muted.

[wet kestrel]

yes

what i used to do was prerecord the left guitar and live record right guitar on camera

[toxic wharf]

Sweetwater and Reverb are pretty good

[toxic wharf]

Sweetwater isn't an option for me cause I live in Europe but I'll check out reverb

[hasty pivot]

I posted a vid in the feedback channel if anyone wants to give me some feedback! I recorded the guitar audio in a daw then synced up the audio in my editor, just a single angle for now to get a feel for it lol

[wet kestrel]

should've told that right away, if you're in Germany/closeby i recommend ebay kleinanzeigen

if it's Poland by chance, then OLX is a good choice too

if you want a new and not used guitar then you can't go wrong with Thomann

[graceful socket]

anyone got good timing exercises or advice? I cant for the life of me play on tap with a metronome/on time. As well as I manage the songs I learn, I cant ever really get the timing quite right

[gritty garden]

Hate to say it, but just playing with a metronome

And slow the speed down

I'd go far as to say slow stuff down to around 50/60% of the original track speed and take your time playing it slowly and programming your fingers and building the association up with the timing. Then when you speed up your fingers will know the pattern and you can focus on speed then

[balmy vortex]

[wind mauve]

good god

how much

[toxic wharf]

I suggest playing at a slower speed and building up. The metronome is important to stay on beat. But if you can't play the tempo, then slowing down would be the next best option.

[timid flicker]

thats quite the piece

[toxic wharf]

Metronome on a decently comfortable speed. Play through all subdivisions...so perhaps 4th notes first for a few measures, than 8th notes than 16th. Make sure you internalize those divisions in that comfortable speed. Than try triplets (16th triplets might be much depending on metronome speed and ability). Once you got this all down change it which each measure. For practicing seriously the best way to do it is inside your DAW while recording and read the transcients critically after you practiced

Its about internalizing the relation of the note groupings in relation to the click. Its basically muscle training.

[bronze orbit]

If you can find other musicians to play with as well that will help

Personally that helped

[balmy vortex]

not because its from a friend of mine

[wind mauve]

wait

thats yours??

[balmy vortex]

Bruh

[balmy vortex]

Read it again

[sharp raft]

Are there any modern style t shaped body guitars with thin necks, Stainless Steel frets, and either a HSS/HS setup or even a hotrail bridge?

6 or 7 string is fine.

[wind mauve]

i am reading it again

and it’s not making too much more sense than the first time

[balmy vortex]

No.
Because.
It's from.
A friend of mine.

[wind mauve]

i didn’t mean “how much” as in i wanted to buy it i meant it as in “how much did a guitar that fuckin slick cost”

i apologize for any confusion

[balmy vortex]

I think MSRP would be around 4600$

[wind mauve]

it’s worth it

that thing is insane

[balmy vortex]

Oh it is

[wind mauve]

does it djent

[balmy vortex]

Ofc it does

[bronze orbit]

I think I might be able to make my rig that I have sound good live

The only thing is that distortion pedal is a little fuzzy

Also yes I know bad cable management

[bronze orbit]

Hears a little what it sounds like

[toxic wharf]

That bottom fender looks like it survived ww2

[bronze orbit]

I have no idea 😂

My uncle brings stuff to the practice room because he manages the place and if people leave stuff behind and don’t come back for it he keeps it

[toxic wharf]

That's pretty cool

[bronze orbit]

I think that could probably work for the first few gigs and then upgrade overtime

Not like we’re gonna be playing anything big so

I do wanna make a good impression but sometimes you gotta work with what you got

[verbal fossil]

for some reason i just find out that buster use a kinda weird tuning

like it's drop E on the 4 low strings then the 2 highest ones are a dissonance to make those weird ambiance he does in HLB

the tuning is like E B E A G# A

[graceful socket]

Damn, that really is weird but as a fan of both dissonance and Drop E I love it. Might try that tbh

Been thinking about getting some HLB tabs anyway, these songs just seem way too fun to play

[verbal fossil]

There is also a lot of whammy work in HLB lmao

[verbal fossil]

but you can still find a few HLB tabs on songsterr

[hasty pivot]

Check out this relic!! Can’t get any input signal to it

[wet kestrel]

i'm using an app called perfect ear, look for it on google market or apple store

[wet kestrel]

actually super slow speed might also be the reason for not being on time. Id say a good amount of between 110-130 bpm for beginners. Like for example counting 4ths for 70 bpm is hard since there's so much space between the hits it's almost impossible to just intuitively catch the rhythm. You can of course count in 70 bpm using 8ths or even 16ths but yeah, too slow isn't good

otherwise yes, it's the best advice out there

[gritty garden]

Oh yeah 60bpm is a decent speed for 8th notes and 16ths. It was more about being slow enough that you can correctly program your fingers on where they need to be, when they need to be there and not worry about the next beat catching you off guard/rushing it, which in turn probably contributes to being sloppy with it long term.

[graceful socket]

Gave it a quick look, that app is insane. Like wow, thanks a lot

[toxic wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HlcK4-gI1Y&ab_channel=KDH

[fervent fox]

Has anybody here had their experience with muiltscale necks, in particular, with this kind of contour on the 1st fret? Is it just me who thinks this is a bit too extreme of a fanned fret? Because I can’t make a decent chord let alone play comfortably up there.

[daring sable]

hey i need some serious advice, this has been going on everynow and then for like 3 years, because my fingers are small i tend to bend my wrist more than average guitar players to reach a good angle on lowers strings, and its making my wrist hurt ive been to a physician and they told me i have a ganglion cyst and that the solution is to wait untill the pain goes away

Is there anybody experiencing the same problem? Is there any tips to ease the pain? And to prevent it from happening again?

[toxic wharf]

Seems like a normal contour for a multiscale neck tbh.

Just depends on the scale lengths...the more they deviate the more extreme the fanned fretting is which is logical.

[toxic wharf]

How do you play? Sitting down? Standing up? How high do you put your guitar? When you sit down, do you play in a classical position?

To decrease tension in the wrist (besides good technique) all these things matter. And for preventing: just practice your stretches and stuff that tends to stress your hands more only for a couple of minutes a day (like 15 minutes) after a decent pre-stretching of your hands and fingers. Even with smaller fingers/hands its possible to still have decent stretches on the guitar, it just takes some care and practice.

I also have relatively smaller hands

[daring sable]

it has always been an obstacle and insecurity for me lol

[daring sable]

mainly sitting down classical position but when standing up i play with really high strap

[daring sable]

thanks for the advice

[toxic wharf]

Yeah, not much you can do besides taking care of a sensitive wrist and alleviate tension points.

A youtube guitar player that has close to perfect technique to get rid of any of that is Giuseppe Gillardi. Check how close he keeps his fingers to the fretboard. Once you practice that kind of finger control you will notice that it takes a way a lot of tension that seemed previously 'normal'.

[daring sable]

thanks

[mossy osprey]

https://youtu.be/X1K-gYnnfGg
This guitar is gorgeous

I sometimes think about how it would be like making my own guitar... But I'm fairly sure it would not turn out this good xD

And I should probably learn to play on the one I have first.... so nvm xD

[toxic wharf]

is there a close up of what the thumb position is in a pinch harmonic?

[acoustic cobalt]

I watched a video on it before, when I was learning how to do it

I don’t remember who it was by, but it was very popular and it had pretty decent camera angles

[toxic wharf]

Dammit I went climbing yesterday and now I can't play guitar cause my hands and arms are kinda exhausted

[daring sable]

i can do pinch harmonics but i dont know if my technique is right lmao

[wind mauve]

if you can do them consistently on demand then the answer is yes

[toxic wharf]

Yeah, I dont see how technically intricate a pinch harmonic can be. The toughest part is hitting the right position of the string in relation to the bridge to get the desired harmonic

[wet kestrel]

id say keep trying

it took me a long time

but i just magically got it one day and it's been fine since then

[wet kestrel]

it's not that hard, once you got it it shouldnt be a problem to just move your hand here and there

don't overthink it

i know it's frustrating but it's really not that complicated

[toxic wharf]

Its not hard but its the hardest thing about a simple technique

Your reference points are relatively imprecise (pick up positions for me)

[wet kestrel]

yeah, it's different for each guitar

my gretsch is pretty low output so it doesn't have much sustain on pinch harmonics

[toxic wharf]

Yeah also im almost never a fan when they are played close to the bridge

[hasty pivot]

Anyone find some of these vst’s sketchy? Like neural dsp with that separate iLok app, or how firewalls start yelling about splice? I hate to add bloatware on my pc and I fear that’s what a lot of these are

I like arturias suite it didn’t seem as bad

[acoustic cobalt]

I hate the iLok shit

Had to do it with the trials and it just got annoying

[hexed igloo]

what 8 strings do people here use?

there's one ESP i really like the look of but there's also a pretty decent chance it might literally have just been discontinued

looking around the upper 1k lower 2k range

like 2500 max

which is why im not just ordering a skerve or aristides

idm if its multiscale or not, also ideally dont want fishman moderns

[lethal fractal]

I use the Schecter Omen 8. I am thinking of selling it to get something nicer. It's still a great guitar, I'm not a fan of the pick-ups that come with it, and the scale length is a bit short for extended range nowadays.

[hasty pivot]

Anyone else notice in the Darko teaser yesterday he was playing guitar upside down?? Is he left handed or is there a reason to this lol

[toxic wharf]

I dont use 8 strings.

7 amd 6 strings good enough

[wind mauve]

he’s left handed and there’s not exactly an abundance of leftie 9-strings

you can see it in every darko video where he’s playing guitar

[verbal fossil]

Yes he's left handed and maybe started with a right handed guitar played on lefty just like buster of HLB coming tomorrow on nik's stream

[wind mauve]

i personally would've said "like jimi hendrix"

[toxic wharf]

Who is Jimi Hendrix?

[verbal fossil]

Yes but i havent watch much of his work unlike buster

[hasty pivot]

That’s so dope!! I’m a lefty too so I totally understand haha I play upside down all the time currently rocking a re-strung righty

I feel so heard right now 🥲

https://tenor.com/view/слёзы-crying-sad-tears-emotional-gif-15348597

[wind mauve]

[wind mauve]

[hasty pivot]

I grew up on the Jimi!

[lethal fractal]

To add onto this I might just be replacing my 8 string the the new RG9

[toxic wharf]

40% discount on Neural DSP plugins for existing customers.

[fervent fox]

NGD! I brought this baby home today!

[hasty pivot]

Beauty!!

[wind mauve]

[spice hinge]

Woaaaah looks amazing dude!!

[nimble jungle]

I love this thing 🖤🖤

[nimble jungle]

I have it going through some G12’s fucking beautiful

[toxic wharf]

Ok. .kO

[wind mauve]

that looks fun

[sharp raft]

I was thinking of picking up a good bass and guitar vst sampler thing. Ot seems like Eurobass 3 and Shreddage 3 Hydra are the go to?

I plan to mostly use them for songwriting, not so much the final product.

[verbal fossil]

Tbh i use djinn bass and umansky bass because i'm more seeking the sound of a dingwall

[timid flicker]

should i buy a steinberger?

why or why not

[verbal fossil]

I'm kinda baised cuz i have a Steinberg audio interface

[hollow surge]

steinberger guitar?

if so which one

[spice hinge]

Quick question for the more experienced guitarists because im like reaaally far in the beginning on my journey, does it get easier?

[lean plaza]

Very old but very gold

[lethal fractal]

It can get easier. Whatever you practice starts becoming easier, I used to not be able to sweep pick for the life of me now I can pick up an 8 string and sweep on it, you can keep challenging yourself and pushing yourself to improve always keeping some level of difficulty.

I'm a big fan of music theory and too know how to apply that to the fret board makes things much easier.

[timid flicker]

spirit

[hollow surge]

honestly if u like them then id say get it steinberger makes great guitars

the trems r sick too

[timid flicker]

only issue is i have to import it

[toxic wharf]

Depends...the techniques you are currently practicing get easier but eventually some newer ones can at times feel like you are starting guitar all over again. At the same time: it gets easier to get motivated imo because you know that you can do things you thought not possible previously

Also @lethal fractal is right...some music theory can make things a bit easier. For me knowing all the triads all over the fretboard significantly helped me

You can easily build chord voicings based on that without the need to use chord books and stuff, you know your arpeggios for improv and the intervallic relations all over the fretboard just by learning 1 (admittedly quite labor intensive) thing

[spice hinge]

Thank you both for the replies!! :D

[unborn finch]

This is my Tremonti PRS

[toxic wharf]

Lovely guitar!

[timid flicker]

anyone got experience importing guitars

[toxic wharf]

You mean just buying em from aboard and paying the import taxes?

Than yes

[timid flicker]

ye

that only

[toxic wharf]

What you need to know?

[timid flicker]

has any product come to you damaged

[toxic wharf]

Its not qny different than ordering something online except for the tax

[toxic wharf]

Luckily no

[timid flicker]

42% tax in my country for audio related things

or was it music

[toxic wharf]

Yeah its not a joke

But well...a guitar might be worth it

[unborn finch]

thank you so much!

[toxic wharf]

Eyes on anything special?

[timid flicker]

steinberger spirit

[toxic wharf]

You from EU?

[timid flicker]

india

[toxic wharf]

Ah yeah

[timid flicker]

courier is trash here

i wont even say a better word

i mean

I can always tell my relatives to bring it 💀

dont have the money rn sadly

[gritty garden]

What you'll find is some stuff will become easier - so you'll learn songs quicker as you spot patterns etc. Learning new techniques/patterns will always be tough. e.g. if you're used to playing in 4/4 playing 3/4 might be a challenge or quarter note triplets etc. Plus physically doing new techniques requires that back to basics approach, do it slow to train yourself, get it right, then increase speed.

[spice hinge]

Thank you :)

[lethal fractal]

Quarter note triplets are awful.

[loud wyvern]

does anyone know how to get a good disturbed tone?

[toxic wharf]

Maybe with some wah wah wah? 🥁

[visual phoenix]

Hello everyone! I was looking to buy a better amp and a 7 string guitar, but atm i can only choose one of them, and i'm not sure wich one, and i need some advice if someone can help me. I have a blackstar fly 3 mini and a stratocaster from encore. I was thinking to go for the 7 string because i want to learn songs from my favourite bands, but the amp would help me improve, hopefully :D, a little the sound. Which one would you guys choose?

[loud wyvern]

so theres the smart answer and the short sighted answer

the smart answer is (if you really want to get new gear) go for the amp. Get super comfortable with the 6 string before moving to the 7 string. Going towards extended range too quickly can stunt your progress.

the short sighted answer (what I did) is get the seven string. It was really fun and I love playing my 7 strings, but I literally just bought a new 6 string because I wanted to go back to basics and get my fundamentals better without having to worry about the 7th string and the extra range

Whatever you do choose though, I suggest looking at the used route

[visual phoenix]

I can't say that i'm even an intermediate player, but i think i'm close being one. I have my gear for 2 years now, and just this year i started learning more.

Thanks for advice!

[loud wyvern]

No problem! Something else to think about is going the digital route and getting an interface + plugins instead of amps and pedals but i know that’s a personal preference thing

[visual phoenix]

One more question is: what do you think of this amp: https://www.thomann.de/ro/harley_benton_mighty_15th_bundle_bundle.htm and this guitar: https://www.thomann.de/ro/harley_benton_r_457_wh_fanfret.htm

[loud wyvern]

I’ve never tried any HB stuff, but from what i hear after some clean up they’re pretty good. Id ask someone who’s used their stuff though

[wind mauve]

that is a good looking guitar

is this website in romanian?

it is

oh it comes out to about $285 CAD

so about as much as i paid for my ibanez 7 string

can't say i've heard of the brand myself but you'll probably get as much mileage out of the guitar as i am mine. as for the amp, i dont know too much cause i pretty much went right to digital/plugins

[visual phoenix]

yes, it is, maybe not the smartest move to give a link in a foreign language, my bad 😅

[wind mauve]

nah dont worry about it

[visual phoenix]

what ibanez do you have?

[wind mauve]

gio 7

[toxic wharf]

Are you just looking for something for noodling in the house? Than its fine, but if you looking for a studio/live workhorse Id opt out from harley benton

Quality control is sub par. But the stuff itself is alright for the price you pay

[visual phoenix]

Not looking for playing at a studio or any gigs, just something to have fun with in my free time 🙂

Thanks for the opinion

[gleaming wing]

Guys what are good string gages for playing at like drop E

I wanna get some new strings for my 7 string

[graceful socket]

I´m playing Drop E with .10, .13, .17, .30, .42, .54 and .74

Could probably go highter gauge with the high strings but I´m comfortable with that. Picked up an 8 string set, dropped the 7th and here I am.

But I´ve also been called a mad man for playing Drop E natively on a 26.5" scale length, so take my advice with a grain of salt, it might not be the most typical setup

[verbal fossil]

My 7 string is in drop F# and the set is a 12-54 on the 1st 6 strings then a 74 on the F# on a 26.5" scale and found out its the right tension for me but for drop E i would use a different gauge cuz it has less tension than the F# and would also depend on the scale length as well

[ember inlet]

Hey, I just bought my first guitar and it's not making sound. It's plugged in properly and the amp is also plugged in properly. The cable and the amp don't seem to be the problem. Anybody have any suggestions what should i check?

[elfin crane]

What do y'all think of my new ibanez GRG121DX

[gleaming wing]

Volume knob? Idk

[ember inlet]

Nope, tried that

[gleaming wing]

Yeah. Wish I could help but not much I can do over discord

[ember inlet]

Thanks anyway. I'll probably just take it to a professional

[digital mesa]

If the guitar has active pickups, check the battery and also that the cable is the correct type (usually should only have 1 black ring on the plug/connector)

If the pickups are passive, I'm not sure what could be the cause besides faulty hardware

[gleaming wing]

Yeah you might want to open it up and see if there are any broken connections. If there are it should just be a simple soldering job.

[ember inlet]

Thank you very much

[loud wyvern]

Oh yeah bought a new guitar recently

(Ignore the gig bag that’s for the guitar next to it)

[timid flicker]

the cat

❤️

[wind mauve]

let the cat play a riff

[timid flicker]

ye

[gleaming wing]

Tbh the cat's probably better than me

[brazen ridge]

What is your guy’s favorite strings?

[gleaming wing]

Ernie Ball slinkys obv

[wind mauve]

she Ernie on my Ball till i’m sl— actually nvm

[toxic wharf]

Get a bass

[gleaming wing]

Bruh

[toxic wharf]

Send help. Bought a Throne Torcher off eBay, bypass sounds find, engaged 98% of my signal gets consumed by a long high pitched squeal. I paid $160 for this I hope it’s not fucked 😭

[toxic wharf]

Update: issue resolved. I stuck it in the wrong hole (I’m a pedal virgin)

[toxic wharf]

Anyone here owns a Quad Cortex? I want to use one live with a full band, running both the bass player and other guitar player through it. I want to switch sounds based on click track via midi. Is it possible to have a complete different sound for both guitar players? I read different things about this.

So for instance guitar player I (clean sound) + guitar player 2 (high gain)

Its supposed to be possible, but you are only tied to 8 'scenes' within each preset?

Cause the issue I have is that some songs use more than 8 'scene' changes and the preset changes have the latency issue.

[wind mauve]

[loud wyvern]

i refuse to believe that syn can do these stretches consistently

the 7 9 12 is easy, and the 6 9 12 is like the farthest i can reach with like 80% accuracy but 3 5 9 is ridiculous

[toxic wharf]

Use index on 5 and pinky on the 9. Especially considering this tab that little jump with the index is entirely doable in high speed.

I would even use my index on fret 9 of the D string and my pinky on the 12th of the G, and so forth.

[loud wyvern]

omg thats so much easier i feel so dumb

[toxic wharf]

Lol, its understandeable, considering the start of the phrase. No worries.

[loud wyvern]

I was also playing a lot of floods a few months back so im in that mindset

something about that shape just makes brain go brrrrr

[prime sapphire]

Yo guys, I have a question about tuning. So, I was thinking about buying a 7 string and using tunings from drop A to G, maybe F#. What string gauge would be good and do I need something else so the deep notes resonate good enough ? I'm not really aiming on producing in a higher meaning, just some doodling and maybe recording here and there.

[verbal fossil]

my 7 string is in drop F# all the time and i use 12-54 on the highest 6 and a 74 for the low F#

and my 7 strings is 26.5" scale

[brazen ridge]

I use 12-65 and it holds drop A fine and some drop F#

[acoustic cobalt]

h o l c u m b

[timid flicker]

how do i know if i am ready for a 7 string guitar ?

[toxic wharf]

What do you mean by ready? If you enjoy playing guitar and know the basics you can get used to a 7 quite easily.

[timid flicker]

like how do i know my progress

[toxic wharf]

I dont think theres a specific point where youre 'ready'

Many guitarplayers who have 8 string guitars just chug

[toxic wharf]

You mean in general? Good question. I think its hard for any guitar player to estimate how they progress because once your intermediate or advanced progress goes very unnoticed and gradual most of the time

[timid flicker]

oh

i mean i have learnt some arpeggios

wait

what are basics

[toxic wharf]

Thats good. You know the names and how to play the same arpeggios over the entire neck?

[timid flicker]

only 1 shape though

[toxic wharf]

I think your basic barre and open as well as pentatonic and major scale

[timid flicker]

fun fact

i never learnt pentatonic

💀

[toxic wharf]

If you know major scale its pretty easy

[timid flicker]

i know like 6 different scale shapes

[toxic wharf]

Of the major scale?

[timid flicker]

yes

[toxic wharf]

To be honest, Im not a big fan of scale shapes outside of the pentatonic, but its a good starting point for playing the scale over the entire neck

[timid flicker]

so i should be able to improvise somewhat?

[toxic wharf]

What helped me progressing very fast is learning the intervals, mainly by learning triads and inversions and knowing what degree Im playing everytime. Its a bit boring but payoff is immense. Also for arpeggios and coming u with chords

[toxic wharf]

I mean...you dont need to for a 7 string

[timid flicker]

hmm true

[toxic wharf]

But I think knowing at least how to improvise over a 12 bar blues is part of the basics

[timid flicker]

thanks

i guess in a month or so i will buy my 7 string

[toxic wharf]

Nice. Which one?

[timid flicker]

either schecter sgr c7

Or ibanez grg7221qa

siding towards the schecter though

never really tried their guitars

[toxic wharf]

I havent tried them either

[timid flicker]

i just tested a 6 string in a guitar store

it was heavy

not tonewise.

[toxic wharf]

Ah, thats not good. Or at least...Im not a big fan of heavy guitars, especially for gigging.

[timid flicker]

if you get used to the weight

the other guitars will seem so light

i mean feature wise it was EPIC

ok its late

i go sleep

[gleaming wing]

Schecters are my favorite. They play so nice

Sadly I don't own any

I have a 7 string Ibanez RG series that plays really nice though.

But whenever I get an 8 string I'm gonna get a schecter

I want the Rob Scallon signature

[timid flicker]

ooh

[gritty garden]

You'd probably need more than 1 QC for this if you're doing a lot of scene changes. The big problem with the QC is the way the lanes are divided. You might hit peak CPU usage on some lanes if you add in all the various blocks you need for all the changes.

Bass and guitar paths would need to be split out, so Guitar on lanes 1 and 2, Bass on lanes 3 and 4... and you only have 8 Scenes per preset. If you change presets there's a slight delay between the change so you might be able to change the preset between songs with an entirely different set of scenes for it. It just depends how you manage the CPU usage across the lanes.

[toxic wharf]

Thanks @gritty garden! The 8 scenes per preset is my issue yeah (due to wanting to run 3 peoples through the unit). Would I be able to circumvent it by using another midi switch unit or by automation in the DAW or nah?

Sorry for the questions. Just getting a band together in my first 'solo' project and trying to get this streamlined

[gritty garden]

The QC as good as it is, also has it's limitations. I've had to do single guitar routing over 4 lanes because I maxed out the CPU on one lane.

Might be good to have one person use the QC and the other use AMP Sims

And that's just me messing about at home 🤣

[toxic wharf]

Yeah thats an option or I might just use the fx return on the backline and let the rest of the band haul equipment

[toxic wharf]

Well the QC has crazy capacities

But also these annoying limitations

[gritty garden]

Of course. TGI's entire rig is QC's. 3 main and 3 redunancy.

All midi programmed so all they have on stage is a tuning pedal

[toxic wharf]

Yeah this is what I was trying to go for as well

Our drummer has in ears with a click and the backing tracks

Anyways thanks for the insight on the QC @gritty garden ! Im sure you know more about the unit than I. Im pretty new to it and havent used it besides very basic contexts

[gritty garden]

I've barely scratched the surface with it, but even with my limited playing about with it, I've exceeded the CPU % on a lane before, having to use up other lanes, which would be what the other instrument uses

I got two patches I use for when I get to play... but it was spend 1600 on a Rockerverb, or 1600 on something with more versitility and that I can take away with my when I see family and do silent playing etc.

[toxic wharf]

Yeah and also the captures sre top notch

Ive only used 2 of myself but they are really really good. Hardly hear the difference from the real thing

[bronze orbit]

Oh fuck

My band announced our first show

I’m excited and nervous it’s just gonna be a small gif so what I have should work for that

[graceful socket]

Damn, congrats. That´s huge!

[wind mauve]

[bronze orbit]

Hell ye I’m nervous and excited

[gleaming wing]

Good luck out there my dude

[primal jacinth]

im on the guitar

[bronze orbit]

So apparently the headliner is supplying equipment

Weird

So we just bring the instruments

[wind mauve]

the drums make me feel like i'm playing halo 2 and i can't explain it

[toxic wharf]

Congratulations!!

[bronze orbit]

Thanks 🤘

This is the show btw if anyone is in the area

3.5 hour drive for us but they asked us to play so

[wind mauve]

i don't even know where that would be lol

as a canadian i am aware of like six states and only like 2 geographically

im assuming ME is neither michigan nor minnesota?

[toxic wharf]

It’s meeshigan

Lol

[gleaming wing]

Maine

[wind mauve]

my other guess would've been massechusetts

and i don't think there's any other m states

[bronze orbit]

Maine

It’s far

[gleaming wing]

Which band are you in?

[bronze orbit]

The first one

Blasphemous obituary

[gleaming wing]

Awesome

[wind mauve]

stephen kingville

have fun!

[bronze orbit]

Hell yeah

[primal jacinth]

Ye that was my brother

Wait wich part when he was playing the rid or the hi hats

[toxic wharf]

Hey congrats on your gig!

Usually thats how it goes. The venue and headlining act provide a basic backline (drums, cabinets, wedges, stage box), but bassguitar players can often bring their heads/combos and pedalboards.

[wind mauve]

the entire drum pattern is just really similar to the way that drum kits are used in songs for Bungie games

like, Halo and Destiny both

i don’t know how to explain it further than that sorry

[primal jacinth]

Na na bro don't be sorry it's alright but do U have a way to contact Nik or is it like trying to contact the bloody American President in this joint

Hahahaha

[lethal fractal]

It probably depends on what you are trying to contact him about.
...he is also another human roaming this earth, so for as much as a public figure he is, he still is a person, and most people don't just want everyone and their mothers trying to become friends with them.

Depending on what you are trying to contact him about, you either have a good chance of it or none at all, especially if you are looking to contact him about his car's extended warranty...

[gritty garden]

To add, Nik is a busy person and more often than not doesn't reply to myself when I reach out to him for clips/admin stuff. So it's nothing personal. Dude is a busy guy and gets hundreds of DMs a day on various platforms etc.

[primal jacinth]

I wish to create a masterpiece of metal ,melodeath,

[lethal fractal]

As a collab?

[primal jacinth]

Yes and maybe working with him on an album

[lethal fractal]

Well I'd recommend writing some songs and riffs, get a collection of ideas if they are good enough you might be able to get something to happen

[toxic wharf]

Oh he is a human? My heart is broken

[lethal fractal]

My bad he's a crab

[toxic wharf]

Oh good I was scared for a second

[lethal fractal]

[gleaming wing]

That was close

[lethal fractal]

Sure was

[primal jacinth]

it might be a lil bit shit but thats al i got for now

U reckon this alright for nik

And don't mean to hasl to much either

And trust me I was rushing coz I have to get ready to go out with my family so but I can do much better I just made that up

[gritty garden]

I would work on the premise it's unlikely he'll see it. He doesn't make a habit of checking out random tracks made for him on the internet, although there is the odd occasion where curiosity gets the better of him.

[toxic wharf]

...wth

[digital mesa]

That's an amazing track name. Gonna steal that 😆

Title track, even

[primal jacinth]

Would u be able to tell him I wish to work with him and ask Nik to listen to this one I made

Pls

And there's also more to it to but I haven't finalised it I'll do it tomorrow coz I live in Australia so different time to U guys

[gritty garden]

Not really, I stay out of potential business proposals etc because it's not my area to get involved in. Drop him a DM on insta, if he sees it and replies then winner, if not then he's clearly too busy

[primal jacinth]

Ight sick thanks

[toxic wharf]

I dont wanna come across as an a-hole, but I think it can be helpful to realise Nik is sort of an internet celebrity and (semi-)professional musician. Im sure many musicians would be eager to collab with him and Im sure he gets overwhelmed with these type of requests. To help with any dissapointment: Take a look in the 'Feedback Requests' channel and how many musicians in this discord channel are trying to perfect their craft, working on getting better at their instruments, mixing, compositional skills. Compare your work to theirs and ask yourself: are my expectations, based on my current work realistic?

And I write this, also because I feel requests like this make it harder for other musicians who actually put in the serious work to get noticed by music tastemakers/influencers.

[primal jacinth]

It ight bro

And Ur not coming across as an a hole either I just really love his music and I just wanna create that again except with me but I see exactly where your coming from all g

But is there anyway now or in the future I'll be able to work with him

[toxic wharf]

Nice...I love the RG series. I have a RG655 prestige myself. And an RGD 7 string model. Which one did you get?

[gleaming wing]

I have an RG 7string I picked up a few months ago. Amazing guitar

[toxic wharf]

Nice

[gritty garden]

Popping in a livestream on twitch is your best bet. That's his time to interact with the community

He may not acknowledge it as there's usually 700+ people in chat, but he will see it.

Also avoid the streams when he's focusing on other stuff like if we have a guest or he's writing music

[toxic wharf]

This is my first electric and I think it's cool

[lethal fractal]

Enjoy it.

[toxic wharf]

I will thanks

[gleaming wing]

Awesome

[toxic wharf]

I want a Music Man Kaizen so bad

[gleaming wing]

I've played them, they are absolutely amazing

[toxic wharf]

Same here...I might crack open my savings vault at the end of this year.

And buy the indigo blue 7 string one.

I just love the idea of a functioning trem on a multi scale neck.

Normally it just doesnt work great.

[gleaming wing]

Yeah that would be insane

[wind mauve]

looking at reviews for a guitar i'm debating

tuned to what

you tune to drop what

[gleaming wing]

Drop S lmao

Personally I prefer drop Q

[shrewd peak]

Drop X is 👌

[graceful socket]

y´all suck, I play in Drop Omega

if your string tension is in the positive you aren´t low enough

[wind mauve]

bro's strings are just fuckin slinkies

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carry-ace-ventura-pet-gif-4203949

[bronze orbit]

Probably not worth the price I’d imagine?

Seems cheap for a 8 string

[toxic wharf]

No multiscale on an 8 string????

And honestly...very few guitars are worth that price

[bronze orbit]

I didn’t buy it

[gleaming wing]

I disagree

[bronze orbit]

My Ibanez was $350 new and I love it

RG series

[toxic wharf]

Ive yet to play a below 700 guitar that does not have some issues with the nut, bridge or bad fretwork

I guess each to their own. But those things bug me on an instrument which is still not cheap. Take quality control into account and a below 800 guitar is downright firewood

[gleaming wing]

I got a 230 dollar Ibanez gio for my first electric and I still go back to it from time to time

Plays nicer than some 2000 guitars I've played

[toxic wharf]

Yeah but I dont believe you when you say its a good guitar

[toxic wharf]

Like?

I dont think you have to pay 2000 for a good guitar

But im not buying the idea that a 230 dollar indonesian plays, sounds or is constructed better than a 1500 japanese or 3000 american made guitar. Thats just cope

Any decent sounding pick up is worth that amount of money lol...

[acoustic cobalt]

they are though (if you get a legitiamtely good one)

mine plays amazing, doesn't have fret issues, nothing too crazy overall

may have some kinda of slight electronics issue, but that happened since i've had it and it played amazing before and still does now

the neck on it is perfect too

[toxic wharf]

I mean...Im sure it plays decemt, but Ive played many guitars in my life amd its hardly any competition. Esecially the bridge, nut amd fretwork

[acoustic cobalt]

bro

you havent played mine

its different

[toxic wharf]

Cope bro

[acoustic cobalt]

bro i own a $900 RGA

no coping here lmao

[toxic wharf]

I thought my 2nd serious Indonesian made 600 dollar guitar was gods gift too

[acoustic cobalt]

cope with the fact that cheap guitars can be good lol

[toxic wharf]

They can be decent sure

But just enjoy what you enjoy

You like it, thats what matters

[acoustic cobalt]

idfk why you categorize all sub 800 guitars as mid tho

they can be good

you just have to find the right one

[toxic wharf]

Get lucky with quality control yes

[acoustic cobalt]

it depends on the brand too

cheap ibanez > cheap schecters on qc

[toxic wharf]

Ibanez still not great but better than most granted

Especially in the 800 dollar range

But the difference between a prestige model and a standard model is not negligible

And people who claim otherwise are just coping

[acoustic cobalt]

well if i was getting a guitar in the 800-1000 range id just get a prs

they have top tier qc

[toxic wharf]

Yeah

Their SE line is great for the price

[acoustic cobalt]

bro my dad has had so many prestiges and premiums with qc issues too

[toxic wharf]

But Id still save up 500 euro more

And go for a prestige

Over an SE

[acoustic cobalt]

meh

prestiges are alr imo

maybe if there was an RGA prestige that i found that i really wanted i'd think about it

but the qc has been horrible on all the ones i've played, and every PRS i've played has been great

[gritty garden]

I have several ranging from £150 up to £3.5K and yeah you can get good guitars for under £800, but I think the QC jump from sub £800 to £1K and up is decent - not saying they don't happen, but there's less QC issues.

[acoustic cobalt]

idk i've just seen a lot of qc issues in that $800-$1200 range

ibanez especially

which makes no sense to me

PRS has been the most consistent company of everything i've played though

[gritty garden]

My Fenders, ESP and Kiesel have less QC issues and feel better to play than my PRS, Gibson and Jackson - the Jackson having the most QC issues for an £800 guitar

[acoustic cobalt]

those three make sense to me for having less QC issues imo

gibson and jackson def make sense for being there for most issues

[gritty garden]

Inconsistencies with the paint job, detailing around the bridge and truss rod cover could be a lot better,

[acoustic cobalt]

yeah

i want a kiesel so bad

they're so dope but cost $4000000000000000000000000

[gritty garden]

Yep, a lot of people aren't interested in them since the whole Jeff drama. I got mine used so winner winner, no extra money to Jeff

[acoustic cobalt]

idek what happened so

didn't even know there was drama lol

[gritty garden]

Yeah, not hard to Google, just him not being pleasant to paying customers etc.

[acoustic cobalt]

ah

[hasty pivot]

Got a left handed guitar finally!

Schecter omen 7 I found used on market place for $300

[toxic wharf]

Opposite for me. Ive never had issues with Japanese made guitars. QC was top notch. American made depending on brand ive had some glue remnants at the nut so nothing too bad

Indonesian/korean made LTD and Ibanez Standards ive had some poorly shaved down/sharp frets.

Also what I dont like in the mid price range is that they often dont give youany indication of how many pieces the body is gonna consist off. If its done right it doesnt matter, if not it just looks weird.

[bronze orbit]

Just tracked today and somehow I tracked 4 guitar tracks in 2 hours while it took the bassist like 2 hours for 2 tracks

Guitarist be faster

[gleaming wing]

I finished a song today too

Took me 4 hours for all the guitar

And about 30 minutes for bass 😂

[bronze orbit]

We just gotta do vocal next week and re amp

[gleaming wing]

Awesome

[brazen ridge]

You all have never heard of drop P

[acoustic cobalt]

Casual. I play in drop ï

[brazen ridge]

Oh I am about to tune to drop I then after that drop 4#

[wind mauve]

oh yeah well i play in drop 死

[acoustic cobalt]

That’s hard to beat

[toxic wharf]

Well I play in drop _

[inner mauve]

my 4th and 3rd string ring when i palm mute my 7th and 6th, how do i fix that issue?

[acoustic cobalt]

Try left hand muting everything else and maybe changing the angle of your right hand

I don’t play a 7 but it might work

[graceful socket]

Had a similar issue, especially on riffs with a lot of string skipping. It´s really a mix of angling your picking hand more towards the strings so you mute not just the ones you´re playing at the moment and also a matter of how you fret. Gotta find that sweetspot between not touching, muting and accidentally playing harmonics to get it cleanly

[inner mauve]

@acoustic cobalt @graceful socket thank you boys

[acoustic cobalt]

yippee

[edgy widget]

anyone seen this before?

[south sun]

What do y’all think about my pedal board

[edgy widget]

very nice

[random tinsel]

I hate not having enough money for a microphone 😭

[wind mauve]

is that Tom Sawyer

[random tinsel]

Yea

[fervent fox]

Huh…learned something new today

[balmy vortex]

this is expensive for that guitar

[acoustic cobalt]

that's a weird looking guitar

[hasty pivot]

What’s your guys go-to drum source for jamming and coming up with riffs?

I have splice but struggle to find relevant grooves. The SLK are great but I’m looking for others

[verbal fossil]

Well i usually work the other way around i get a riff then i make the drums for it unless its a chug base riff where the kicks and the chugs match in rhythm

[gleaming wing]

Yeah same

[tacit vigil]

Question is it normal for all guitar cable ports to get lose or just me

[fathom nymph]

yo

is there a bassist here who can do like fast stuff and complicated stuff, complicated time signatures and polyrhythms and shit

if so
let me know
and fuckin ping me so i see your message, k

cool

[verbal fossil]

Imagine bending a string and this happen

Idk how i managed to break a fcking 74 gauge string while bending it with only 1 finger

and the funny thing is only the insde of the string broke, the wound around it didn't break for some reason

[modest ravine]

how old were they?

[verbal fossil]

3 months i think

and most of the time i change them every like 5 months but mainly cuz it started to get muddy lmao

[gleaming wing]

You're more of a man than me

I haven't changed mine in close to a year

Because I'm lazy lmaoooo

[verbal fossil]

well i can have the same strings on my guitar for 9 months as well as for 3 just depends if one breaks or if i'm not lazy or if the guitar lost clarity

and for this one i got it in may so it can't be more than 3 months

[lethal fractal]

how does your intonation just not die from having old strings?

Once my string starts changing texture/tarnishes and leaves residue on my fingers they are out... As well the intonation just goes to crap after a little bit of use.

I'm talking about 2 months of daily use when I say a little bit... My guitars aren't that unstable

[toxic wharf]

Honestly look like something funny going on with the nut. Perhaps very slightly viling it and put on some graphite will prevent it from happening again

[floral valley]

So, figured I'd come here to ask for some more experienced opinions on buying guitars online. Ive been checkin out these fernandes JG 55s, and liked em a lot, specifically the gun metal and purple ones

found a good deal for some on ebay, but either one or both are kinda sketchy

https://www.ebay.com/itm/275971079313?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D252698%26meid%3Dd9f2fc23fcc049bebbfd6391df8913de%26pid%3D101195%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D125647888212%26itm%3D275971079313%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv11WebTrimmedV3MskuWithLambda85KnnRecallV1V2V4ItemNrtInQueryAndCassiniVisualRankerAndBertRecallWithVMEV3%26brand%3DFernandes&_trksid=p2047675.c101195.m1851&amdata=cksum%3A275971079313d9f2fc23fcc049bebbfd6391df8913de|enc%3AAQAIAAABcPqB0EgCndAssfMWNy0AT0GytGzF9%252By0G%252BlcW69DgBK3Qlz4BjwJQqPkN4K8I7qz9GoVciN1QNWqyS8EeqYS8rZRsDvyvw34m3N%252FyJKokwCTIIc3RNym2SNW8ARudP72DyiwgIY0dfUnIr5%252BMZDTaosTLB4kmiJV2hnwNu3XnVuWrPrV3qgg%252BG3oPxSqPB7%252F2boEwGsEbcDs6IRUhI8bTgXm%252B3rMaR1c%252BLAyjZrfDyN7aV5hbJQmkZgYU5f30iMZ1ODM9XKZXKsVMkaKklHb%252FemMvSIXRPdT60xQ1cJrY9RaBrvP7lpqRbFU9UuQTut89CizTXhpI9tc7f2jB9%252F9T2NOYJr6CfdqODTUu8N6%252FpyntIB%252F%252FWhTI2GqIElOzCKAGJMPAedgqpX4nUorJy2q8jI1kNhT3AqKz%252FBe%252FEI3iw%252FR3vgKMNP%252BDQoMi5eGgkCJv1%252BaYfPdjzc0oPodtooonO79nV6qAgCaxCtqSv6spQHi|ampid%3APL_CLK|clp%3A2047675

and

https://www.ebay.com/itm/125647888212?hash=item1d41329f54:g:AmYAAOSwe29jjWiD&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8ENLT2KLGT8UY%2FoTYV0vgkEHQ1c6c6rgF7zD9rxaBZ0BJRCTeAmpPgra4vU5o1Cxq%2BIc6kOoSjHxJVCx%2BlHkbq2eI7WASBDdvWPNBU%2BQHXpfrawQLt5cJvGPGejNQjeFUZvoDWlxq2mMwSg21ZgnGJJ09dqIekzcGw1izeb34M0I9iPA9SKALJ9YB1sVmRuU%2B3%2BP%2FqSSiwjRIdKE%2FFoeq%2FiNl408C%2F5PwKi0JxR9oQLxRIhbdMygLEsmfKDwLVscU2HbYaGNUY%2FRwIbRYWoe8miS6RFtP2yj2hvUnNqGIzBwUQnJSygHeCBrt6EUnaKImA%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR_rP9P7BYg#readMoreDesc

both shops have a lot of feedback, the one having suspicious reviews, and them having the same images just made me go oh the first one by the user jp2014tomin or whatever was a scam

but like I have no way of being sure both arent
and they're both in japan, so not exactly close to east coast US
just wanted to feel a little more sure if I were to pull the trigger on it

thanks for any advice yall can give

[gritty garden]

Lmao use a URL shortener

[wind mauve]

if i do that then how will i hide the Curse of Ra in my URLs

speaking of guitars tho i have found my own personal saving goal

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/QX527PBABS--ibanez-qx527pb-antique-brown-stain?serial=211P01I230402975

same price as the Matt Heafy Origins 7 and the Axion Label

headless Ibanez, slanted frets, five-position pickup selector with an additional switch that can power tap pickups to give you a single coil sound that doesn't buzz, the only thing that makes me kind of not want it is the fact that the axion label comes with fishman modern fluence

[modest ravine]

i was really interested in that guitar but the 25.5 inch scale is kinda offputting

[wind mauve]

yeah, that’s the other thing i suppose

the aforementioned axion label has iirc a 27” scale with the fanned fretboard

so that plus the fishmans kinda has me split on which one i want more

but i don’t have $1200 to spend right now so i have plenty of time to worry about it

[toxic wharf]

The Axion label is not 'fanned fretted' its a multiscale. Fanned fret guitars just have fanned frets for playing comfort.

If you mean the RGD71ALMS which I think you do (fishman fluence pickups and all)

[toxic wharf]

Yeah, I dont really understand why they make 7 string guitars in that scale...even though the Kaizen 7 string multiscale has a 25.7 low be string scale length which seems to be fine....

[wind mauve]

i could've sworn it said fanned frets when i read it

maybe i'm just illiterate

but yes i do mean the one with the name that rolls right off the tongue

[toxic wharf]

Lol, like any Ibanez guitar?

[wind mauve]

[toxic wharf]

That RGD71 is a good one though.

[wind mauve]

me and my ibanez abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz69

yeah, the RDG71 and the QX527 are the ones i'm seriously considering

same price, so the saving goal is the same

i will say the RGD has one glowing review

[toxic wharf]

Yeah, if you tune down Id go for the RDG71. The 25.5 scale of the QX527 will probably play like spaghetti when going lower than drop A or sound very muddy if you put on very heavy cables.

[wind mauve]

for QX

[toxic wharf]

It doesnt say anything about the intonation problems that will you get from heavy downtuning on a small scale length 7 string.

Sure...its always easy to downtune on a headless guitar, because the tuners are brilliantly placed most of the time and a mono tune bridge definitely helps with the ringing out of the strings seperately from each other, but that doesnt say anything about the muddy tone + intonation issues you will get with downtuning.

I mean...you can do it, but you will need a very heavy low B string and the thicker that string gets the more muddy the tone will get.

[wind mauve]

i see

for strings i was thinking of going for the ernie ball slinky cobalts, 10-62

[toxic wharf]

https://www.guitarworld.com/gear/everything-you-need-know-about-seven-and-eight-string-guitars

It explains it a little bit why its not a great idea to have a 25.5 inch scale length for downtuning a 7 string.

[wind mauve]

i mean my current 7 is the ibanez gio 7, which i think also has a 25" scale at best

[toxic wharf]

I think its 26.5 no?

[wind mauve]

hmmm

nope

25.5"

[toxic wharf]

Ah oke

Yeah, I wouldnt tune that lower than A.

[wind mauve]

tbf i'm probably staying in drop g or drop f

i don't need dj0nt tunings

[toxic wharf]

Its personal of course, but objectively in drop G but drop F for sure, you need quite thick strings on a 25.5 inch scale length.

And thicker strings = more muddier the tone will get.

https://www.ibanez.com/eu/products/detail/rgd71alpa_1p_01.html

Another Ibanez 7 string which is in that price range.

With a scale length that also makes more sense than the 25.5

[wind mauve]

oh this one's neat

but the RGD71 with the fishmans would be my first pick tbh

the only reason i want the headless one is cause it's a headless one for the same price and it sounded really cool in the preview videos

and look man im a sucker for good lookin guitars and the headless one looks damn good

[toxic wharf]

It is a goodlooking guitar.

Also has a cool switching system, but if you really wanna tune to drop G and you care about a decently intonated instrument my advice would be to stay away from 25.5 scale length guitars.

[wind mauve]

understandable

might have to go for the RGD with fishmans then

still looks cool, and it’ll sound exceptional, and it’s the same price, so there’s that

[toxic wharf]

It plays well too.

[floral valley]

Yeah sorry about the urls 😂

[wind mauve]

i have no doubt that both would play well, half the reason i’m picking an Ibanez over something like the Matt Heafy Origins is cause i prefer the neck wood on Ibanez guitars as well as the body shape

[toxic wharf]

Yeah I have no doubt, but I havent really played on the QX527, so could only share my experience of the RGD which I did play for a bit.

[wind mauve]

ah fair enough. like i said i have plenty of time to deliberate, and the QX527 is newish so maybe by the time i can afford it they’ll have a newer model with features like multi scale or a finish that doesn’t make people immediately think of human skin

i mean seriously two other discords i sent the thing two were like “yooo human skin guitar”

[toxic wharf]

Yeah I do feel they should make it multi scale but it will up the price a bit. I dont mind the finish but I do prefer painted finishes even though theyre often cheaper

[wind mauve]

honestly i like the finish but it could definitely be cooler

if they used like a lighter wood for more of an ashy grey colouring it would look insane imo

[paper grotto]

I'm looking at buying a baritone 7 string for Drop G.. 27" scale.. but the internet is all over the place when it comes to string recommendations. any thoughts on gauges here? my head hurts

[fervent fox]

I think you’ll be better off with these Ernie Ball strings if your going to be that low.

[verbal fossil]

tbh i'm in drop F# so 1 semi tone lower on a 26.5" scale and i use 12-54 plus a 74 on the low F# but personaly i'd use like 11-52 plus a 70 for that tuning or mayabe a 68 due to the scale length

[balmy vortex]

60-64 would be fine for G on a 27" baritone

[modest ravine]

what is schecters goal here

[fervent fox]

To try an be more relevant than the other brands is my guess if their doing something ridiculous as that

[gleaming wing]

That looks awesome ngl

[graceful socket]

Is.....is that a triple humbucker?

or well technically a 1.5x humbucker

[weak yoke]

Technically ive started playimg 2 years ago, but i really started picking up my guitar when i got this one roughly 1 year ago. My first one was squier bullet and comparing to ibanez the difference felt like night and day 🙂

[acoustic cobalt]

just wait until you make the next jump

i think i've had 5 guitars over the 2 1/2ish years i've played

[toxic wharf]

5 years 2 guitars

[acoustic cobalt]

Damn

My first and 4th ones were dogshit