#rdo-chat

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errant forge
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Mostly owners blame their Arabians for their faults

sage quiver
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Meanwhile my breton doesn't buck me off when surrounded by wolves at his legs lulhaw

errant forge
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So doesn't my Arabian

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Atleast it didn't when wolves still existed

sage quiver
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Arabians will almost buck you at the sight of a snake

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Has happened actually

errant forge
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I've seen Turks and Hungarians do that too

bleak creek
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Arabians? More like poopians

sage quiver
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Don't have either of those

bleak creek
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Because they are shit

errant forge
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Woow good job very creative

bleak creek
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Thanks :d

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I practice alot

errant forge
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Temperament doesn't apply at all for like 80% of the game too

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Even in gunfights

sage quiver
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You don't have to feel attacked because we're talking shit about arabians, and temperament definitely applies

errant forge
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It needs like 15 or something enemies to buck you off

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As a proud Arabian owner I feel the need to support it's race

sage quiver
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Thats racist

errant forge
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Rdr is racist then

sage quiver
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fair

errant forge
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Arabian is literally the only superior horse

sage quiver
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oof

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Just because its there in the stables lulhaw
98% agrees its horrible

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I'd rather bring my shire and step on the doo-doorabian

marsh dirge
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2 or 3 gunshots cause mine to buck

errant forge
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You got unlucky with the personality I guess

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Different horses within the same breed seem to have different temperaments

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So it might not be a question of breed

sage quiver
errant forge
sage quiver
astral plinth
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is bow a throwing weapon?

sage quiver
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No I don't think it counts as such

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You can check the Fence for most of those, Hatchets, Cleavers etc.
Probably molotov and dynamite works too, but I'm not sure

astral plinth
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bow didnt count for daily

errant forge
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@astral plinthanything in the throwables besides lassoes are throwing weapons

astral plinth
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dynamite it is then

sage quiver
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Would fish count?

errant forge
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Yep

sage quiver
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lulhaw easiest one

errant forge
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They count for the award

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So I'm guessing they work

sage quiver
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Noice

errant forge
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@sage quiverdont be overconfident

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Rockstar will probably make fish disappear today

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You know what happened that day with the gators

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Still have PTSD

sage quiver
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I didn't even go for the gators, I just did 1 daily for my multiplier, then I went for max-gold on not telling

errant forge
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I just did the canoe thing and went to play a different game

marsh dirge
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so i just did etta doyle lvl 2, shot 2 people with a bow and then rode like 100m on horse and got 42 bucks xD

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ez

errant forge
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Yep

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Gotta love etta

marsh dirge
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I hope they dont fix it

lime imp
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OMG Jesus chroist

queen oxide
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hi

lime imp
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I'm new to RDO

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I have a few questions

sage quiver
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I might have a few answers

lime imp
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😱 😎

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Ok

queen oxide
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Anyone want to play ps4 rdo?

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I wish you would get money in rdo like the story valentine bank robbery

lime imp
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Does anyone have the same thing as me? When I'm creating my character, everything looks good and smooth. But when I get to play, the eyes look swollen.

sage quiver
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When I made mine everything looked okay, when I got out I looked like a chinese woman

lime imp
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Exactly.

sage quiver
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I still think mine looks alright though lulhaw

lime imp
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I hate my character, lmao.

queen oxide
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What is the best pistol @sage quiver ?

sage quiver
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You could change appearance?
there's youtube videos to make pretty ones
I think Navy Revolvers in online, they're boss

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LeMat too

queen oxide
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What about story?

sage quiver
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No idea if there's more, Its been about a year since Ive played story

queen oxide
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oh haha

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You on which device?

sage quiver
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xbox
was on ps4 but I got an xbox with it lulhaw

lime imp
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Yeah, followed one of these videos. My character looked pretty as f*ck! I was so happy, and when I got in game. The eyes looked so swollen.

sage quiver
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aw damn

lime imp
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Made multiple new characters, same thing.

sage quiver
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Yea I tried following one but mine didn't look as good so I declined and went back to the asian lifestyle

lime imp
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Might be my graphics card, literally makes me play RDR2 on low settings because of "Other apps."

sage quiver
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It can also be the expression sometimes though

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oof

lime imp
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I'll send a pic of the chara soon

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Ugliness 🙄 😡 😱 😎

queen oxide
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If you have a somewhat good pc , rdr2 looks good and feels good on pc

sage quiver
lime imp
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Second question!

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How the feck do I make money?

upper jay
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very boring..ly

sage quiver
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In the start story missions, After that you should try to get 15 gold for the Bounty Hunter role (That one earns money and gold)
With the gold from the bountyhunter you could get collector or trader roles

lime imp
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Yeah. Bounty Hunter role costs money.

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It sucks tbh

queen oxide
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who wants to play ps4?

sage quiver
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You can earn gold though

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Daily challenges are important, do atleast 1 of those every day so you keep a multiplier up, eventually you'll get 0.5gold for every daily challenge

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Treasure maps are great

queen oxide
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i always dont bother to do my treasure maps haha

sage quiver
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They can give over a gold bar

queen oxide
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Yeah

barren lindenBOT
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You can now ping respective channels when Looking for players.
If you're looking for a group please checkout #role-request and select which system you play on. From there you can check out the how to channels to see how you can find players easier.

lime imp
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😻

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Cute

sage quiver
lime imp
deft torrent
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succulent fish?

atomic hare
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watch the video in the daily channel

lime imp
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What can I do without a role?

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I'm being use

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useless

atomic hare
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do the dailies

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they're pretty easy today

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build a streak

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this game is all about the long haul

lime imp
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dailies?

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Oop

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doing a mission for horley

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something with sherrifs

deft torrent
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where might i cook succulent fish if my camp does not exist

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tried moving it and it simply isn’t being pitched

atomic hare
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he shows you a spot in that video right outside of van horn

sage quiver
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Yea the story missions are good to do first imo

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They give you some cash, Not sure if they pay gold

lime imp
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What did y'all do with the O'Dowd mission

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I killed her boyfriend

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If only i knew her husband was gross

upper jay
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helped them escape obvi

errant forge
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Same

deft torrent
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somehow spawned in a server with literally no plants.. Impressive

errant forge
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That's new

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Rockstar keeps finding new ways to crap on us

deft torrent
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Something similar happened the other night when I spawned in a server with no animals

errant forge
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That's common

queen oxide
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Yeah i was wondering why i didnt see any animals yesterday

deft torrent
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and thank you Rockstar for allowing me to take on the Trader role early but not letting me get perfect pelts through any conventional and practical means until I can unlock a rifle with express/high velocity ammo at rank thirty-something

queen oxide
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hehe

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same , only rank 18 F_

errant forge
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U wot

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Bolt is a low level unlock @deft torrent

upper jay
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you can get the bolt action rifle at level 7

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lol

deft torrent
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the higher end ammo for it though

queen oxide
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oh , im dumb i have the bolt action lol

upper jay
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you don’t need different ammo types

queen oxide
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but ive got some express from the clerk

deft torrent
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had no luck preserving pelt quality with regular rifle rounds

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yeah

errant forge
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Git gud

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Do headshots

upper jay
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^

deft torrent
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i do

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right through the eyes

upper jay
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you’re either trying to hit their vital organs which it too realistic for rdo

errant forge
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Then it's not perfect in the first place

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Or

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Hmm

upper jay
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or not hitting its head, or not even hunting a 3 star to begin with like dez just said

deft torrent
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it consistently goes down from perfect to good or good to poor, even when shooting right through the eyes with regular rifle ammo

errant forge
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Wot animals are you trying to shoot with the rifles

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I usually go for a bit above the neck

upper jay
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are you trying to kill a squirrel with a bolt action

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and thinking you’re going to get a perfect pelt

deft torrent
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alligators, black bears, grizzly bears, bucks, elks, moose, anything I can’t lasso and stab

errant forge
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Try it on a perfect alligator

upper jay
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your aim isn’t aiming good then

errant forge
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Go to it

deft torrent
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i do

errant forge
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Aim at it's snout and shoot

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With the bolt action

deft torrent
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i always aim for the eyes

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never the snout

upper jay
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idk what you’re doing dude but clearly you’re fucking up somewhere

errant forge
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It's to test if your game is bugged

deft torrent
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why

errant forge
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Do you hunt with deadeye using the bolt

deft torrent
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how much does the bolt action cost again

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no never

errant forge
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Hold up

deft torrent
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alligators are easy mainly bc I can get close enough to land a kill shot and not spook them

errant forge
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You don't have the bolt?

deft torrent
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nope not yet, it’s a grind to earn and I spent most of my money on other guns

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been using the repeaters mainly

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thought about getting a bow but I don’t think it’s for me

errant forge
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Lmao

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Dude

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You need a bolt to get perfect pelts on large and massive animals

deft torrent
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what

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ohh

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well theres the problem

errant forge
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A bolt, rolling block or carcano are the rifles

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Only rifles give perfect with large and massive

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Repeaters don't

deft torrent
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in single player they do right? with certain ammo

errant forge
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I think maybe repeaters work for some stuff but don't remember what

deft torrent
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ehh fuck anything with a scope

errant forge
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Nope

deft torrent
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i remember having a similar problem where in story I could only obtain perfect sheep pelts by using repeater express

errant forge
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Ah yes

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Medium

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Medium animals need repeater or rifle

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So it's basically useless to hunt with repeater

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Just use a rifle for medium, large and massive

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Varmint for small

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Bow with small game arrows for extra small

deft torrent
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yeah

smoky lodge
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Does anyone need help with anything?

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like selling stuff or help gathering stuff

errant forge
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Ask in the lfg channels

smoky lodge
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ah okay my bad

upper jay
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i fucking knew it

smoky lodge
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lmao where is the lfg channel

upper jay
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@errant forge i knew he was probably using a repeater or some shit but I didn’t want to say anything

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we were literally talking about buying a bolt action for the entire time and he was saying he couldn’t buy different ammo types

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well no shit you need the gun first

errant forge
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I thought he said he had a bolt earlier so I didn't ask

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Lol

upper jay
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yea that and we kept saying buy the bolt it’s only level 7 and he just brushed that off so clearly he should’ve had it

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guess not

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imagine using a repeater to hunt a deer

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you can kill coyotes with a repeater and get a perfect pelt though

errant forge
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Yep

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All mediums

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However I use a repeating shotgun and carcano as my loadout so never applied to me

atomic hare
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I hunt deer with my repeating shotgun when they piss me off

sage quiver
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Why not varmint

pulsar arch
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that's what incendiary buckshot is for

sage quiver
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Those are for low level players

pulsar arch
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like you

sage quiver
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Can I count both accounts into 1 level?

pulsar arch
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no

sage quiver
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Well shit

pulsar arch
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you won't even play your ps4 ac

sage quiver
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I did a few days ago for a few minutes

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To check my stats 😂

pulsar arch
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they always come back

sage quiver
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I'm over 105 on ps4
126 on xbox

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My xbox can stream to my pc now though, easy screen grabs

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So I could make my favourite person as emote

pulsar arch
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au mon dieu

sage quiver
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Marcel is great 😂 his accent does it

pulsar arch
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i don't get the hate

sage quiver
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I was against the fuck Marcel emote

pulsar arch
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at least he ain't got rabies like the mutt in my camp

sage quiver
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Yea fuck Cripps

pulsar arch
sage quiver
atomic hare
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He stole so much money from me

errant forge
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Like fr

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Just shut up

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Noone wants to hear him talk for a whole minute

pulsar arch
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oh non

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merde

sage quiver
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Tell your boss, zer is a batch ready for zelivery

errant forge
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Bon

sage quiver
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Good guy

deft torrent
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@solemn vessel I can’t buy the ammo types because I’m not a high enough rank

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which is a ballache

pulsar arch
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c'est la vie

deft torrent
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idk when I can buy the gun but soon I will

pulsar arch
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tres vite

lime imp
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This game

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decided to kill my horse

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spawn it on train tracks

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during a mission

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: /

errant forge
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Good thing your horse is immortal

heady river
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Either that or our characters are necromancers.

errant forge
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Or we have infinite clones of our horses to kill

heady river
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All very likely.

upper jay
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AYYYY i knew i wasn’t the only one who liked marcel

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everyone is all like oh fuck marcel he’s so annoying and shit like that but the moment i rescued him, the moment he talked i just fell for him

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his accent is amazing

gusty wave
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You know something that I hate

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Red dead on xbox

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A bunch o wee sweats

wanton flower
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i think a buck just tried to ram me

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i guess impale is more accurate

gusty wave
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Did you slap it?

atomic hare
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you guys who love marcel haven't sold enough moonshine yet

wanton flower
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nah i just ran away like a baby

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i also hate the pvp sweats, i dont understand how thats the main appeal for anyone

heady river
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Don't have to understand, just have to accept it.

wanton flower
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never

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to be fair, if someone is just better than me thats fine, its the trash talkers i dont get

heady river
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It's part of the game, half the time it's not even directed just said to get them hyped up.

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I talk mad shit when I fight people just to keep focused.

gleaming umbra
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lmaoooo

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i trash talk

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but i also win 5 times out of 6

errant forge
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I just trash talk people to myself

gleaming umbra
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that

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or if i'm in a party

errant forge
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Ah yes

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If I'm in a party

gleaming umbra
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i send petty messages too if the opposing player is being a bitch

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LOL

errant forge
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"Oh my God that guy was so lucky he got lucky my head was there oh my god how was that not a headshot you saw that right"

queen oxide
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anyone wanna play ps4?

errant forge
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Ask in the lfg channels

queen oxide
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Is this server dead?

gleaming umbra
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agh i hate when some of the messages get deleted

queen oxide
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or is it just the time of day

errant forge
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Time of day I guess

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Fookin muricans are probably going about their daily lives

gleaming umbra
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right

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yer a british feller eh

errant forge
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Nope but technically close

gleaming umbra
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irish

errant forge
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We were under the Brits a century ago

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Not even close

gleaming umbra
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hm

errant forge
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Come on now it's easy

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What's the highest profile country to be under the British a 100 years back

gleaming umbra
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i didn't really pay attention in history class

sage quiver
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I trashtalk people using explosive, while using explosive lulhaw

errant forge
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Can't fault you

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History is boring

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How about an easy clue

gleaming umbra
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that's just u jonk

errant forge
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Natives of the Americas are named after us

sage quiver
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I doubt thats just me

errant forge
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It's a curve jonk

sage quiver
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I'm sure they do the same, but I'm either in a party or have no mic 😂

errant forge
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And you're at the bottom

gleaming umbra
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"Natives of the Americas are named after us"

sage quiver
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Best place to be, all low levels are here

deft torrent
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india

gleaming umbra
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are you indian

errant forge
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Ding ding ding

gleaming umbra
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oh ye

deft torrent
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way less than 100 years, they only got independence in the 40s or something, Scary recent

gleaming umbra
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well shit i wouldn't know that

deft torrent
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You do now

errant forge
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Ya well people don't keep up with shitty countries like mine lol

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Atleast their histories

deft torrent
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which is a shame bc India has an incredibly rich history

errant forge
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It does

sage quiver
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must be because of your arabian

okay i'll stop, maybe

gleaming umbra
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o

errant forge
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People tend to overcompensate in India

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So I'd imagine most Indians would prefer shires

deft torrent
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wearing the most expensive moonshiner outfit

sage quiver
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See them walking around with 20hand horses

errant forge
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And elephants

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And cows

deft torrent
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I’m picturing like a Shire with 14 people on it

sage quiver
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Oh yea, tf do you need horses for you got elephants

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20 hands horse is HUUUGE though

errant forge
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Elephant supply has run low since people hunt them for ivory

sage quiver
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scum

errant forge
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Fish semen?

sage quiver
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Yes

deft torrent
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wonder if in the Indian release of RDR2 they remove the ability to kill/skin cows

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censored like Australia and left for dead

sage quiver
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Lmao

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Invincible cows

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I want one

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tbh, i miss my bull from RDR1 multiplayer

deft torrent
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i miss my mule

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little scamp

sage quiver
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They need to bring those kinds of mounts in

deft torrent
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you can probably pay a 16 year old Chinese hacker 3 bitcoins to mod you in a RDR1 bull

sage quiver
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I'm on consoles though sadart

deft torrent
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4 bitcoins then

sage quiver
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done.

marsh dirge
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WHY ARE THE SERVERS SO TRASH?!

queen oxide
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wd

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ym

marsh dirge
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Omfg

queen oxide
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its fine for me

marsh dirge
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Always has to ruin my mood

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I got fucking disconnected at the end of a mission

queen oxide
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happens

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wanna play?

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nv

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m

marsh dirge
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Wait I think I finished the mission

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It must’ve disconnected right as I completed it

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Looool

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Thank fuck

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CAN THEY FIX THEIR GARBAGE FUCKING SERVERS

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I can’t play one mission without getting disconnected!!!!

cedar lodge
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Anyone recommend a horse that doesn’t buck me off if it sees a cougar or alligator?

deft torrent
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they all do

cedar lodge
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Damn really

deft torrent
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but if you’re at max bond with them then it takes a bit more

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yeah in my experience

cedar lodge
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What’s the difference between the horses then?

deft torrent
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pretty much all horses bolt if they’re in close range of a predatory animal

cedar lodge
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Is it just stats?

deft torrent
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speed and handling

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yeah

cedar lodge
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Damn okay thanks man

sage quiver
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My Breton does panic but doesn't even bolt when surrounded by wolves at his feet

cedar lodge
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So everyone is fucked if there’s a cougar up their ass?

deft torrent
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more or less yeah

cedar lodge
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RIP

sage quiver
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If you know the spawns its damn handy

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Ever rammed a grizzly? lulhaw

deft torrent
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my Kladruber flips me (and it takes me like a fucking hour to get up off the ground) when I’m surrounded by 3-4 timber wolves, which is very useful when you’re surrounded by 3-4 timber wolves

sage quiver
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Whatever you do, the Arabian Will buck you off at the sight of a snake

cedar lodge
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Yeah but I just wanna be able to shoot without being thrown out of the world border and back

deft torrent
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Have to do it at a distance then

cedar lodge
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Them things be speedy tho

deft torrent
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I’ve never had a horse panic near a black bear though

cedar lodge
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Yh black bears and more afraid of wind than anything

deft torrent
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probably since they’re already running off by the time I see them

sage quiver
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Black bears run away

deft torrent
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Yeah

cedar lodge
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Wimps

deft torrent
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As opposed to grizzlies which can seemingly absorb an indefinite amount of ammo unless you go for the eyes

cedar lodge
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Itll fuck up the pelt but incinerary rounds are my go to

deft torrent
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I hate how fish aren’t scaled properly

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like a 5lb salmon and a 2lb salmon look the exact same

cedar lodge
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Lmfaoo that’s true never thought of that

deft torrent
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given the immense level of input and development that went into this game, I find it annoying that they didn’t include proportionally enlarging fish per their size

marsh dirge
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@sage quiver no my Arabian doesn’t throw me off even when there are 5 wolves right next to me

deft torrent
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and the sunsets/sunrises are wayyyyy too fast

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so like my only complains w this game are THAT small

sage quiver
marsh dirge
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Well it’s true

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Idk why u hate them so much

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It’s horse racism AngeryCat

cedar lodge
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I only ever used the white Arabian in the main game so it’s all I know

marsh dirge
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Same and it died ;-;

cedar lodge
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God yeah the amount of times I’ve had to ride back up to lake Isabella is frustrating

marsh dirge
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I didn’t even bother after that

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I just got a black one lol

cedar lodge
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But she too pretty 💎

marsh dirge
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Yeah but I couldn’t replace it 😔

upper jay
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are we talking about dookie horses

sage quiver
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Its disgusteng

queen oxide
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I was doing a stranger mission and i got killed by a bear and a cougar

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yay

sage quiver
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Bear claw camp ? south of Manzanita?

gusty wave
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Right

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I can never find a grizzly bear

barren lindenBOT
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You can now ping respective channels when Looking for players.
If you're looking for a group please checkout #role-request and select which system you play on. From there you can check out the how to channels to see how you can find players easier.

gleaming umbra
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@gusty wave if you got the bounty hunter role, you can do the yukon nik legendary bounty and kill the bear in the cage.

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it counts.

gusty wave
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Oh shit

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Imma do that

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Cause every time I dont want a bear. theres a bunch but when I want one. NOPE NEVER

upper jay
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it’s unbearable

silent arch
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Any tips for when the nests don’t spawn when collecting eggs

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Dynamite worked on one but the other is too high

deft torrent
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I struggled with collecting eggs

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Then I started doing the button prompt and it was much easier

silent arch
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What’s that?

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Also annoying if I wanna change lobby’s I have to exit the game or it won’t load

marsh dirge
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eeyy, soloed 5 star etta doley, feelsgood

upper jay
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yea that’s the easiest one to 5 star solo

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you can literally just stay still for more than half of it

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and then have no one shoot at you

versed roost
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just hit level 20 in all 4 roles and finished my outlaw pass! might be the time to give the singleplayer a shot YeeHawGusta

jagged glacier
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Can I safely change my character's appearance? I heard some lost their daily objectives streak after doing so

gilded crag
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most ppl cant even load into the change appearance menu

jagged glacier
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Backing out from a showdown after first launching the game does the trick mostly

gilded crag
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didnt work for me

empty lantern
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Im on night shift and can't do my daily killing/knockout of the hotel owner in Valentine.. Could someone kill the hotel owner for me and post picture

bitter zodiac
#

Do you think they will add the M1899 to Online eventually?

undone atlas
#

Anyone having bug issues today? I can't set my camp. I know this is normal, but it's been like 30 mins of me trying with nothing. I've tried multiple areas too. Also i tried to do a quest and it lagged out.

buoyant sluice
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You tried restarting or different sessions? Had problem with animals not spawning and a different lobby fixed that

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@undone atlas

undone atlas
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yeah

viral sequoia
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Hey guys anybody up for delivery I got a wagon full waiting

buoyant sluice
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Idk then

undone atlas
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Sharpydon, I'm down.

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gimme a couple mins?

viral sequoia
#

Ye sure,

undone atlas
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reloading

viral sequoia
#

Just doing a moonshine thing anyway. Bring some others if you want my psn is

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Sharpy4812

undone atlas
#

oh your psn. I'm on PC...

devout cliff
cedar lodge
#

Does fast travelling move you to another session or do I have to close the game to find a new one since I get infinite loading via the online menu?

undone atlas
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it doesn't

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I don't believe

cedar lodge
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Ah k

undone atlas
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if you want a new session entirely, it's prob best to restart

cedar lodge
#

Aight thanks

undone atlas
#

you getting grieved?

cedar lodge
#

People havin a shootout in tumbleweed where I need to get to yeah xD

undone atlas
#

lol

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yeah, I'd just restart a session

cedar lodge
#

Aight ta mate

undone atlas
#

np

upper jay
#

shoot them back

gentle orbit
#

This camp bug that's not allowing it to spawn is driving me crazy

upper jay
#

just spawn it somewhere far away and fast travel to it

gentle orbit
#

Thanks

versed roost
#

Just did my first long distance 100 goods delivery solo! ez pz

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even ran past a real player and he didn't attack me.

gentle orbit
#

Sweet, good job

barren lindenBOT
#

You can now ping respective channels when Looking for players.
If you're looking for a group please checkout #role-request and select which system you play on. From there you can check out the how to channels to see how you can find players easier.

bitter zodiac
#

Hey so how do I use those free supply refill things at the butcher table?

upper jay
#

it doesn’t fill materials (the bar that fills when you bring in animal carcasses or parts)

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it only fills the other bar that becomes empty after you produce 25 goods and have to either do a mission or pay like 20/25 (i forgot) to refill it (you obviously do the mission because why pay for it)

#

the voucher only refills that bar for free but paying takes a while for it to come

sage quiver
#

Also, the resupply mission is what brings in a nice amount of Trader XP

errant forge
#

Paying is faster and more convenient when you have max trader

sage quiver
#

I do not agree, there's a wait time before the supplies are at your camp, and 9 out of 10 times the resupply mission is near camp.
-What does suck is when they ask for a specific animal, while there are NO animals spawning

upper jay
#

see you could avoid all that trouble by not doing any roles smarthonk

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or you could piggyback off others asking for help for their trades

sage quiver
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Lmao I like that, see people go "Looking for someone to help protect their 100/100 delivery"
while they really mean "Looking for people to help me get some money"

upper jay
#

yea i think the people who @ all the traders asking if they need someone to help out are dumb

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like that’s stupid af

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only @ peeps if you got a trade ready, not to ask if anyone has a trade for them to join in

sage quiver
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Makes for a good laugh though lulhaw
Sorry doods, saving my delivery for my friends

errant forge
#

How long exactly does buying supplies take

upper jay
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yes

sage quiver
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I don't know exactly, atleast a few minutes

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And buying 4x supplies for 100/100
thats 80 bucks less profit

pulsar arch
#

hunt a turtle

sage quiver
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I haven't seen a turtle in months
Im gonna check today, empty session ftw

upper jay
#

do the snapping ones count

versed roost
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empty sessions ftw! I saw baby alligators and turtles yesterday

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R* needs to fix that asap. it's way more annoying than the old camp bug

atomic hare
#

I always do the resupply because I tend to get materials along with supplies when I do them

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And I hate hunting

loud fractal
#

Is there an easy way to tell what day cycle it is?

marsh dirge
#

There’s a link to a collector map in the pins here that shows you the collectibles and usually automatically updates to what cycle it is for them

barren lindenBOT
#

You can now ping respective channels when Looking for players.
If you're looking for a group please checkout #role-request and select which system you play on. From there you can check out the how to channels to see how you can find players easier.

gusty wave
#

Omg its cowboy mcgee

errant forge
#

No

atomic hare
#

super easy daily day

barren lindenBOT
#

You can now ping respective channels when Looking for players.
If you're looking for a group please checkout #role-request and select which system you play on. From there you can check out the how to channels to see how you can find players easier.

wanton flower
#

an easy way to get animals to spawn is to start a bounty, standard or legendary. dont go after the bounty, just ride around and youll notice animals spawn much more frequently

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i havent confirmed it but i think stranger missions work in the same way

smoky lodge
#

If I help someone protect their 100/100 delivery, do I get paid for helping?

wanton flower
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yes

smoky lodge
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wow thats neat

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If my friend is in my crew, and I sell an animal to the butcher. Does he get paid aswell?

wanton flower
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no, you get paid for what you sell

smoky lodge
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thats boomer

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so me and my friend would have to have 2 individual animals to sell if both of us are going to get paid?

night agate
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Yup your friend will have to make his own money

wanton flower
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you could skin the animal and leave your friend with the carcass, or the other way around

smoky lodge
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Hope they will fix that any time soon

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since me and my friend are going to be trappers, and we'd hope we could get equally paid

wanton flower
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thats not a bug or anything

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it wouldnt make any sense for someone else to get money for something you sell. but an actual mission will share rewards

smoky lodge
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yeah my bad i dont meant fix, but just add a feature for that

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But it would make sense if my friend got money for something I sell if we are in the same crew and we hunt together

night agate
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He will get paid for helping you deliver the goods

smoky lodge
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I am not talking about the trader business tho

wanton flower
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its just to balance the game out a bit more since you can make quite a bit of money selling stuff to the butcher

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its the same reason posse members earn less than the leader for delivery jobs and stuff. it was far to easy to piggyback off someone else for money

deft torrent
smoky lodge
#

I can see why they would get less, but still I think the leader should be able to choose how much of the cut the members would get for helping

deft torrent
#

How have I only just noticed window rock? Is that new?

night agate
#

This isn't gta though 😂

wanton flower
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like in gta heists?

smoky lodge
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yeah

wanton flower
#

yea its not really needed

smoky lodge
#

like it makes sense if the leader could do it

wanton flower
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heists are different because you have to pay to set them up

smoky lodge
#

yeah but thats not the point

wanton flower
#

ahh yes the point is you want more money for doing less

smoky lodge
#

no

wanton flower
#

but it doesnt work like that, and never will

smoky lodge
#

My point is that the leader should be able to choose the members wage

wanton flower
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why?

night agate
#

If he wants to make money tell him to get the collector role 😉

smoky lodge
#

If one of my friends buy RDR2, he will be a total noob. And since I am a nice guy I would like give him 80% of the cut and me 20%

wanton flower
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boo collector

deft torrent
#

collector role, what’s that like? what’s the main aspect?

wanton flower
#

well then i guess its better that system isnt in the game because your friends will still get good money

deft torrent
#

like obviously trader revolves around the table and deliveries, what’s the equivalent for collector

wanton flower
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i did a $187 delivery and my members got $94 or something

night agate
#

Collecting items to sell to madam nazar can make like 4k per day 👌🏻

umbral cryptBOT
smoky lodge
#

yeah but what is the harm of being able to choose my members wage?

wanton flower
#

collector is you go around and look for stuff

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its not fun whatsoever and honestly the worst part of the game

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but if you just want some money go for it.

smoky lodge
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Each to their own

night agate
#

Yea agreed it can be boring while collecting but deffo worth the money for a few hours grind 👍🏻

wanton flower
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not really anything wrong with choosing wages but for starters rockstar isnt making gta but cowboy. rdo is supposed to be very different from gta online. secondly it just isnt necessary, thats why that system is ONLY in the heists, because it costs you money to set up the job for others

smoky lodge
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"Secondly it just isnt necessary", ah okay so lets remove 70% of the features in RDR2 since it isn't really necessary

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is that is what youre saying?

wanton flower
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um no.

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im saying theres no need to choose wages

smoky lodge
#

it is

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RDR2 has tons of unecessary features

wanton flower
#

like?

smoky lodge
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for example, being able to clap horses asses

deft torrent
#

i think an option to choose wages is a good idea

a requirement to choose wages isn’t

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just implement it for those who wish to use it and allow those who are content to not use it without punishment

smoky lodge
#

the option to choose wage adds for immersion if you see

wanton flower
#

immersion?

deft torrent
#

i see it more as just being a nice option than immersion

smoky lodge
#

yeah that aswell

#

have you guys seen the revenant?

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on netflix

deft torrent
#

yep

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great movie but overrated imo. i need to revisit it

wanton flower
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well i can see people abusing it to give themselves more money, and having an option to give anyone less money is dumb

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not like youd be able to pay them above the pay grade for that mission

smoky lodge
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yeah you know where they sign the contract and they get extra cash for taking care of leonardo, its like that

deft torrent
#

It’d have to be done in such a way that meant you could opt out

night agate
#

Lawless is another good movie.. Mainly about moonshiner 👌🏻

smoky lodge
#

i just imagine something like that when being able to choose wage

deft torrent
#

maybe put it to a vote like skipping cutscenes

wanton flower
#

yea thats why it isnt a good system to try to implement

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like if they never add it, no one will really care. not something the game needs, not now anyway

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wouldnt be against it, but theres really no need for it

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and you never told me about all the useless features in rdo :/

deft torrent
#

theres definitely larger problems yeah

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Can I donate muskie to cripps?

wanton flower
#

what the hecc is a muskie

deft torrent
#

fish

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Large one

wanton flower
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i think so

pulsar arch
#

he no take fishies

deft torrent
#

Ffs

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Fussy bastard

wanton flower
#

wow what a rude boy

pulsar arch
#

they're probably being saved for some seaman role in the future

wanton flower
#

hehe seamen

pulsar arch
#

he he

wanton flower
#

someone told me theyre going to add lawman and photographer role in the future, i googled it and only found stuff about the leaked naturalist role. anyone know anything about those 2 roles?

deft torrent
#

fishing spot at the top of owanjila lake is perfect for salmon

wanton flower
#

is fishing good money?

oblique mortar
#

is ok

pulsar arch
#

used to be one of the most profitable things to do

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but fish prices got a nerf and eventually the roles were added

wanton flower
#

thats the blanket statement for 60% of all things in rdo

pulsar arch
#

ymep

deft torrent
#

I wish you could get more shit off corpses

wanton flower
#

for big bucks now its: wait.

deft torrent
#

Gold teeth, buckles, rings etc

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You get way more in story

wanton flower
#

i get that stuff all the time

deft torrent
#

And they’re worth like $2 generally so it’s not exactly a gamebreaking amount of money

wanton flower
#

regular strangers dont have shit, revenue agents and bounty targets always got the good stuff!

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them watches b like $5-8 and sometimes ill forget i even have them and sell the stack for $40

#

kinda shitty that the only way to make any real money is roles

#

"carve out your own story in rdo... but only by playing one of our preset roles"

pulsar arch
#

ymep

deft torrent
#

the most subtly annoying thing is the cap on horse speed when you’re in a town

pulsar arch
#

before roles, the only rich players were glitchers, pvp gods or those who hunted 24/7

deft torrent
#

but it’s satisfying breaking past it as you leave

pulsar arch
#

in sp?

deft torrent
#

so for regular game do I just go for deer?

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Single and RDO

pulsar arch
#

yea game meat from deer

deft torrent
#

Cheers

pulsar arch
#

wait no

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rabbits

deft torrent
#

thanks

atomic hare
#

solo lobby is the best lobby

deft torrent
#

where might i locate ducks

atomic hare
#

just got my herons and alligator skins

fiery canopy
#

and too many things going on like random encounters? lol

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The ducks I find are all over the "S" of the Dakota River, there's a lot of locations actually

pulsar arch
#

heartland overflow should just get renamed to animal fat

fiery canopy
#

LOL

sage quiver
#

I'm glad im on 30 fat again, empty lobby helped me out lulhaw

#

Onto the next fight with a level 7

pulsar arch
#

free roam events are a fkn mess today

wanton flower
#

do you automatically get everything you unlock on the pass, or do you have to buy it once you reach that level?

sage quiver
#

You get everything

wanton flower
#

even the doge?

sage quiver
#

Yea

wanton flower
#

niceee

sage quiver
#

Got fred in my camp

wanton flower
#

"50% select" are the worst coupons

fiery canopy
#

yeh I got Strange Dog in mah camp XD

wanton flower
#

i swear you used to be able to shoot your own dog

oblique mortar
#

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU WANT THAT

wanton flower
#

idk but you could do it

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when i first bought my good boy i aimed at him and the circle went red but i couldnt bring myself to shoot the poor thing

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and i got the dog alarm thingy unlocked but it seems useless cause nothing ever tries to get in my camp

deft torrent
#

you can shoot them in SP right

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fuck camp dogs, we need camp cats

wanton flower
#

fuck camp cats we need camp monkei

deft torrent
#

daily: 0/5 gumballs picked for camp monkey

pulsar arch
#

wheremst tf is my camp poodle

errant forge
deft torrent
#

where is my camp cripps

#

i want a lil one on a leash

errant forge
#

Kill im

#

Also today cripps referenced metal detector players lol

#

He said that he was seeing a lot of people running around with weird flashing devices

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And that he didn't know what that was about

fiery canopy
#

same got that before once XD

errant forge
#

I wonder if Rockstar is commenting on us abusing collector lol

fiery canopy
#

lmfao

astral plinth
#

when turning in bounty, do I get bigger reward if I wait till the timer is 00:30

errant forge
#

Technically

#

But that's not the optimal method

#

It's said waiting for 12 minutes after the bounty started is optimal

#

Don't see the timer that the game gives

#

Keep time yourself

sage quiver
#

Unless you get a timer thats shorter than 12 minutes ofcourse

lofty ridge
#

Hey. is there a way to move into the Story Screen without turning of the online session?

#

Found it! Just take the Leave game option!

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You get thrown into the main menu!

deft torrent
#

im so incredibly aware of how slow RDO is

#

like literally just the gameplay

#

the delays when you’re fishing

#

sometimes theres a 2-3 second long gap when I fire a gun in a shootout

#

herons are bluewater marsh right

pine sedge
#

Bayou nua I see a lot of herons in.

wanton flower
#

i see a lot of herion in saint denis

deft torrent
#

no such luck for me

#

i see a lot of heroin

#

should i blow 15 gold on a bounty license for save up 25 for a moonshine shack

wanton flower
#

its 10 gold for BH right now

pine sedge
#

Yeah. I'd get it now for 10

wanton flower
#

and i would get BH for sure since its the only role that earns you gold

pine sedge
#

(I did 2 days ago)

night agate
#

Save up 40 for the outlaw pass 😉👌🏻

wanton flower
#

ew

pine sedge
#

I need 25 for moonshine then 40 for the outlaw.

#

When is outlaw pass over?

wanton flower
#

if you dont have bounty hunter how do you get 40 gold?

pine sedge
#

Daily challenges

night agate
#

Get the pass first it gives you 40 gold back 😂👌🏻

pine sedge
#

Only if you finish it

wanton flower
#

daily challenges are really good true, but you have to play every day

night agate
#

Mine was finished before I bought it.. Its easy did it in just a few days

deft torrent
#

Jesus ive seen 3 owls and 1 raven in Bayou Nwa but 0 herons

pine sedge
#

I see them standing next to the water

wanton flower
#

yea outlaw pass is a cake walk to max out and it goes till march 20th lots of time for me to grind the 40 gold

pine sedge
#

Ah good. OK I have time. I play every day, but short amount of time.

wanton flower
#

30 now, i still got 8 treasure maps too

deft torrent
#

should i wait until the next outlaw pass then ?

night agate
#

Stranger missions bring gold too 👌🏻

pine sedge
#

Nah that's a ton of time to get it. Lvl 40 I think is max outlaw. But it's a different xp system than player level.

deft torrent
#

do yall also listen to music while on RDO or is the sound necessary to you guys

night agate
#

Sometimes I listen to music but it has to fit the game 😁

deft torrent
#

Damn

#

Rn I’m listening to Roxy By Proxy by Frank Zappa + The Mothers

wanton flower
#

only game i play with music on is halo

night agate
#

Nice.. I like a bit of 'canned heat' while I play 😂

wanton flower
#

canned heat while you eat canned meat

night agate
#

Hahaha I prefer minty big game 😁

lofty ridge
#

Just check the daily video. There is everything visually prepared for you

deft torrent
#

Noob question, does getting a bounty license kill my trader progress

#

Can I be both

night agate
#

Nope

#

U can do both

wanton flower
#

the thing about dailies though is some of them i can never bother with. like getting a specific bird, specfic fish or plant. just awful

#

same with pvp challenges too, i never bother with that GARBAGE

atomic hare
#

that's when you go into a solo lobby

wanton flower
#

huh?

night agate
#

Yeah I never really bother with the player kills and such 🤷🏻‍♂️

wanton flower
#

theres no need for a solo lobby for any challenges imo

atomic hare
#

the hunting ones on console definitely benefit from them

smoky lodge
#

lmao how do you sprint on console

#

i just crouch

atomic hare
#

also the event ones

wanton flower
#

u spam A

#

over and over

smoky lodge
#

really?

wanton flower
#

ye

smoky lodge
#

Can I change the keybinds?

wanton flower
#

its annoying. if youre talking pc i have no clue

#

i would guess its under the control options

#

✊ 😂 👊

smoky lodge
#

Ok I'll check it out

wanton flower
#

nae nae

smoky lodge
#

SinceI actually had no clue how to sprint

#

but why is jump on square?

#

where is the logic cowboy_angry

wanton flower
#

i dont understand what youre talking about

atomic hare
#

they wanted it to share the button with half the other actions in the game for mass hilarity

wanton flower
#

im so confused

smoky lodge
#

To jump on RDR2 using a PS4 controller, you have to press Square

wanton flower
#

what is happening in chat

smoky lodge
#

Whell I do

wanton flower
#

yes what is wrong with that?

smoky lodge
#

it is usually X

wanton flower
#

oh well yea, every rockstar game has been like this

#

literally all of em, i think even bully uses the same control scheme

smoky lodge
#

wow

wanton flower
#

mirrors edge uses R2/right bumper

smoky lodge
#

wtf

wanton flower
#

it be like dat sometime

#

hecc i use that kind of control scheme on halo

lofty ridge
#

the thing about dailies though is some of them i can never bother with. like getting a specific bird, specfic fish or plant. just awful
@wanton flower As I said. Just chech #624629268294402066 there is any place shown where you can find specfic birds or other animals for daily challenges

wanton flower
#

i know dudem

lofty ridge
#

so whats your problem

wanton flower
#

even if i know EXACTLY what to do, i dont bother

#

i dont want to do that kind of challenege

lofty ridge
#

ah!

#

so you are rich

smoky lodge
#

richboy check

wanton flower
#

no, i just dont care that much >:C

lofty ridge
#

so you enjoy what part of the game?

errant forge
#

I mean if everyone's rich

#

That's just middle class

wanton flower
#

i get like 16 challenges a day if 2 of them are something i dont like i dont bother. i got options aiiight?

lofty ridge
#

ah!

#

But You want the reward for 7/7 ?

#

!

errant forge
#

Noone does

wanton flower
#

nah not until i get that 2x multiplier

#

even then maybe not

#

im more focused on that sweet cash

errant forge
#

Oof

wanton flower
#

the mean cycle of getting $900 then starting at nothing continues!

#

shoutout to rockstar for designing the online around unlocking stuff. what happens once you buy all upgrades n shit?

#

it would almost be like playing before roles again. truly awful

errant forge
#

Games boring

#

I completed online in basically 2 months on PC

lofty ridge
#

Well I guess games arent made for people who have time playing 24/7?

heady river
#

Start abusing substances to enhance the game.

#

It's what I do.

lofty ridge
#

LIKE WHAT!

night agate
#

My game is completed too but I never played 24/7

heady river
#

secret secret

night agate
#

Smoke some weed you'll forget what you were gonna do 😂

deft torrent
#

where might I get a horse brush

night agate
#

General store maybe or the stables

heady river
#

Stables or handheld catalogue.

wanton flower
#

i play like 1 hour a day and have almost all upgrades

smoky lodge
#

how do i improve my horses stamina

errant forge
#

I didn't play all the time lol

#

Games just very very ez

#

Especially after coming from gta

wanton flower
#

@smoky lodge you raise the bond level. if its at 4 and you still want higher stamina you need a new horse

errant forge
#

Where everything's inflated by 10000%

#

Literally

wanton flower
#

gta has like a billion things in it jesus

#

but even if it had no free roam stuff, theres an absurd amount of pvp content

smoky lodge
#

oh

#

So I can't give it some good food?

wanton flower
#

wait are you talking about raising the stamina max, or getting more stamina while sprinting?

#

what is the horse word for sprint?

#

gallop?

heady river
#

Probably.

smoky lodge
#

raising the stamina max

#

it is only at half

wanton flower
#

oh, then what i said earlier

heady river
#

Once you hit level 4 that's all you get.

wanton flower
#

i dont think any horse has the highest amount of stamina you can get

smoky lodge
#

ok

wanton flower
#

kinda weird tbh

heady river
#

A breton can get max stamina.

wanton flower
#

i can see that, breton buff

heady river
#

Breton best horse. Even though I named mine Weezer.

deft torrent
#

bolt action or lemat?

#

thinking bolt but

heady river
#

Bolt.

#

Sidearms can come later. Bolt is good for hunting. Which means it's good for trader.

upper jay
#

i mean

#

you can hunt with a lemat

heady river
#

You just won't get perfects.

wanton flower
#

you can hunt with dynamite too

upper jay
#

all animals are perfect ☺️

heady river
#

I'd say sidearms should be the last consideration for purchase.

wanton flower
#

yeaa!!! animal rights!!!

heady river
#

Lancaster > Bolt > Carcano > any of the shotguns > sidearms

wanton flower
#

i got the unique navy revolver im not worried about sidearms anymore

#

i actuslly got the mauser and... what a garbage fucking gun

errant forge
#

Repeating shotgun>all other weapons

wanton flower
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takes 6 body shots to kill

heady river
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Mauser is good. Just need to find the right purpose.

errant forge
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Mauser is trash

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Get a semi

deft torrent
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how come i have to be slower than a gallop to use the horse brush, but the animation continues even when I immediately speed up to a full gallop

marsh dirge
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My fists >

heady river
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Shoving people > all weapons

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They can't do shit if they're on the ground.

errant forge
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Stealth head bop>>>all

deft torrent
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Shouting at the console >

heady river
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shooting your console >

wanton flower
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jumping on enemies with horse > wrath of jesus

errant forge
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Shooting yourself=not advised

deft torrent
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would not recommend shooting others

heady river
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Depends on where you shoot yourself.

errant forge
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Except in self defense

deft torrent
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for the FBI agent monitoring this chat

errant forge
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Also depends what you shoot with

wanton flower
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shoot off my own hat for 5xp

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ez farm

heady river
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I'll take a 20mm to the foot thanks.

wanton flower
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geez

errant forge
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Paintballs are rumored to be more painful

upper jay
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definitely more painful than a .22

deft torrent
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still hurts like a bitch though

wanton flower
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you wont be saying that when you get shot in the tummy by a .22 and its rocking around in there

deft torrent
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people look down on .22s way too much

upper jay
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i assume you’re not familiar with the community of guns

deft torrent
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it’ll still kill you if you put a gun in your mouth and fire one into your skull

upper jay
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which yes, .22 are really the butt end of all jokes lmao

wanton flower
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i assume you underestimate the power of a .22

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the chad of bullets

upper jay
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nah nah the chad of all bullets are lead balls

deft torrent
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i prefer shooting 22s to 45s

recreationally that is

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Minnie balls >

wanton flower
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broo balls arent bullets!!!

errant forge
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I saw this video once where a dude put a shotgun shell in a flare gun

wanton flower
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balls is balls

errant forge
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Cool

upper jay
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they got more balls than bullets

wanton flower
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so does.... UR MOM

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👊 😂 ✊

upper jay
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owie my feelings

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:(

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that definitely hurt more than a .22

wanton flower
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i just realized the council of cringe has assembled

upper jay
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ah yes

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the COC

wanton flower
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dez with jojo pfp, u with that amazing weeb draw, e621 is self explanitory and ME with a rat pfp

upper jay
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you’re actions have around the COC and they have erected into action

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the council finds this as cringe

heady river
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"e621 is self explanatory" LMAO

upper jay
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also rats are cute :(

heady river
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Unless they're wild rats.

upper jay
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well yea

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there, now it sent

errant forge
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Rats are pests

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Mice are cute

heady river
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You know what else are pests that need to be shut down, fucking low levels.

loud fractal
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Hey guys! Quick question.. If I have have a fast travel post at my camp.. can anyone in my posse use it?

heady river
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Yes.

loud fractal
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Sweet ty

upper jay
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THEY ARE PESTS OF LOVE

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@errant forge

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yes

heady river
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If you're not shooting every low level you see, you aren't playing the game.

errant forge
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I see

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I shall turn toxic tomorrow

heady river
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Welcome to the end game of RDO.

deft torrent
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You’re dumb if you don’t lasso every other player in a 10 mile radius off their horse and drag them

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Also if you see someone walk into a shop, be sure to wait outside with a shotgun and shoot them the second they walk out. They’ll find it really funny and think you’re cool

heady river
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shotgun? weak. use dynamite arrows.

wanton flower
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rdo never ends!!! delivery missions forever!!!!!

oblique mortar
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dynamaite arrows? Weak, use a gatling gun with explosive bullets even though there is no you could do it

deft torrent
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Evans repeater is the sweatiest weapon in existence

errant forge
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Nope

deft torrent
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24 round magazine and good enough range to camp from a distance

errant forge
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Stealth kills

wanton flower
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isnt there a one shot sniper?

errant forge
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Nope

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Only with the right abilities

wanton flower
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do yall use that hat perk?

upper jay
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it’s really only useful in pvp imo

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in pve you obviously aren’t going to respawn all that often and if you get pinned to the ground or get hit in the hat you lose it

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and you might not have time to go back for it if you have like 10+ people shooting at you

deft torrent
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What’s a legendary bounty that I could do if I’ve done exactly 2 regular bounties beforehand and no more

upper jay
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in PvP you’re bound to die if you’re going to be close up in the fight (obviously you would be if you’re running a tank build) and you respawn with a hat

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etta doyle is the easiest bounty imo

deft torrent
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I don’t have a wagon or any of that jazz

upper jay
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if you stay hidden behind this wagon the entire time and wait, they eventually say that it’s a set-up and start running away

errant forge
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Etta Doyle is ez cheez

upper jay
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when they start running away you hogtie the real etta and no one shoots at you

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so it’s an easy legendary bounty to do solo 5 star

deft torrent
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how do i spot the real Etta

upper jay
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you wait

errant forge
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Isn't she always the one who goes inside the big warehouse thing

upper jay
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no

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before people thought it was the one who moved their hand when talking

errant forge
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I've done it 3 times and she's always been there so maybe just coincidence

upper jay
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but it’s not always her

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dumb messages being sent 5 minutes after i send it

errant forge
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You could bola everyone after one eliminates herself

upper jay
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if another message from me comes up involving waiting just disregard it, i’ma step away for a while

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yea but you could just end up losing your bolas and waste 40 dollars

errant forge
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I mean

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Aren't we all endgamers

deft torrent
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so should I just guess the real Etta ?

upper jay
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i prefer to wait

errant forge
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I stealth it

upper jay
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so they all start running away and no one shoots me

errant forge
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And knock em out

deft torrent
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so there’s no tell

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for who’s the real one

errant forge
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There is

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You need to be very observant tho

deft torrent
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what is it

errant forge
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Also if you wait one will reveal herself to not be Etta

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So you'll only have 3

marsh dirge
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Why tf is no fish taking the bait?!

errant forge
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Etta has a big scar on her face

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Very hard to see

marsh dirge
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And I couldn’t get on my fucking horse

errant forge
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Even with scope