rdo-chat

[indigo tangle]

Nah, not in my experience. People seem to be more friendly than in GTA

You might be lucky and have a modder in your session that can blow everyone up, if so just change sessions

The usual is people greeting you instead of killing you as far as my experience goes

[junior rock]

So total noob question, but how come whenever I complete moonshine production, it disappears?

[indigo tangle]

Marcel is drinking all of it

To be honest I've never encountered that problem. Try validating files and that stuff maybe there's something corrupted

[upper dagger]

can a legendary bounty untie himself ?

[junior rock]

I have $12 because I'm making one last-ditch effort to make a batch of moonshine that'll put me in the green

Marcel better not drink it all this time

[rustic rapids]

@upper dagger Yes

[surreal coral]

@karmic junco nah I'm not into GTAV but i can tell you RDO is nothing like that. You will absolutely get toxic/troll types, in any and every game out there really. But in my month or so of RDO I've only had 3 players try to troll/harass me and the folks i play with. The vast majority of folks will just avoid you. But if you do get killed by a troll you can press charges and parlay with them. So they won't be able to touch you or your group for 10 minutes and NPC and player bounty hunters will be after them till they clear the bounty they just got.

[narrow glacier]

@upper dagger i've never noticed a legendary bounty untie themselves. normal bounties it happens fairly often.

[karmic junco]

Oh my god that's perfect.

[jolly leaf]

So for the poison poppy recipe we have to wait 30 mins until the event pops up after completing anything related to the moonshiner business?

[silent hollow]

whats up with the hackers these days?

got a dude killing the whole lobby

[rare wind]

@hexed plaza

[hexed plaza]

what a dick

[rare wind]

did you reported him? man you totaly should

what an ass

[hexed plaza]

report

[summer bramble]

Hackers have no life

[silent hollow]

I reported, but i read a reddit post saying reporting gets YOU banned lol

[marsh dirge]

Does the award fall 10 meters with your horse and survive mean 10 meters at once or in total?

[silent hollow]

at once

[marsh dirge]

Lmfao

Cuz I just jumped into a fence and got it

[summer bramble]

Yeah

[junior rock]

Revenue agents don't even tell me to pull over anymore

When I approach their checkpoint with a moonshine wagon, they just tell me to not stop

No conflict is fun

Especially when I only had enough money and ingredients for that batch

[narrow glacier]

ive never been stopped by revenuers

[junior rock]

I've always stopped for them and got through no problem

One time I got a really strong gut feeling they'd shoot me if I stopped, so I blasted through, and that's the only conflict I had

[steady matrix]

I always get drunk before deliveries and they smell the alcohol on us everytime

[summer bramble]

Lol

[upper jay]

there should be crocs

[narrow glacier]

you should be able to have someone hide in the back of your wagon and ambush the revenuers

[marsh dirge]

They’d probably act as good sponge material so the bottles don’t break too

On a side note how are we so stupid as a hunters that we haven’t figured out we can wrap our moonshine in furs to protect it

[surreal coral]

I do not envy pc players dealing with hackers in this game, with all the issues this game has and then throw in hackers, I'd have quit playing

[astral plinth]

cant find someone to escort in need

should I stay in one spot or cycle through them all

[marsh dirge]

Ikr I can’t find anyone either

Why do they have random shit that you have to do

[surreal coral]

You think it's random, until Cripps tells you his supplier wants you to hunt a turkey for the 5th time in a row in the same day

[jolly leaf]

Is the poison poppy moonshine worth the effort?

[astral plinth]

maybe they dont want you to complete the daily for gold so you buy them in store instead?

[upper jay]

no no, that was when right before the update dropped for moonshine & outlaw pass 2 came out the last two weeks they brought back the limited clothing and the week before made metals 40% off for customizing

that was them wanting you to waste all your gold so that you’d spend real money to buy it (40 for pass 25 for role)

either way i ended up buying my friends $50 psn cards as an early christmas gift so like.. yea lol

[marsh dirge]

The pass is worth it though

You get back all the gold fairly quickly

Especially if you already are a high role on the first pass

I was around lvl 65 and got back all the gold in one day

[wet kelp]

I heard you get 40 bars so there's no net loss whatsoever

[marsh dirge]

Yeah exactly

[upper jay]

i’m not saying it wasn’t worth it

[marsh dirge]

And you get so much stuff

[upper jay]

i’m just saying they tried to make you waste all your gold before the role and the pass came out

[marsh dirge]

Maybe

Maybe not

[upper jay]

no not maybe, they definitely did

[marsh dirge]

Or they wanted it to be hard to get

[upper jay]

all the limited clothing got brought back 2 weeks before the role and pass came out? and all those clothings cost 4+ gold for one pattern?

and then 40% off all metals for gun customization, which costs gold

definitely trying to get the players who saved up gold to make them waste it all so they’d end up having to buy gold with irl money

[marsh dirge]

Okay yeah I see what you mean

still your decision if you want to buy it or not tho lol

I would never

[upper jay]

yea i didn’t budge with the clothing

the metals i already bought long before the discount was released so rip me and the 100+ gold i had

[marsh dirge]

Oooof

[upper jay]

but now i just have 140 sitting around so i don’t mind

[marsh dirge]

Ah nice

Is the trader role and moonshiner role worth buying?

[upper jay]

yea, like i mentioned i bought $50 cards for all my friends, including myself

[marsh dirge]

Wew

[upper jay]

trader you need to have in order to buy moonshiner

[marsh dirge]

Ye

[upper jay]

so yea, take that info

[marsh dirge]

How much is the trader and how do I get it

Or where

[upper jay]

if you want moonshiner, you gotta have trader, if you want trader.. just get trader

it’s a camp upgrade if you rejected cripps the first time

[marsh dirge]

Oh ye

[upper jay]

go to wilderness outfitters and i think it’s called butcher’s table

[shy egret]

aight ppl. who wants to play

[upper jay]

for 15 gold

[marsh dirge]

How much?

Ok

Do you get gold back?

[upper jay]

nah

[marsh dirge]

None?

[upper jay]

nope

[marsh dirge]

Oh wow

[upper jay]

does give you good cash though

[shy egret]

it's very annoying to get gold in rdro

[marsh dirge]

Ye

[upper jay]

if you’re just starting out i recommend getting the bounty hunter role first thing

[shy egret]

should I get bounty hunter (I only have collector atm)

[upper jay]

bounties are the only role thing that get your gold as of now

[marsh dirge]

I have the bounty hunter and collector

So cash and gold supply I have

[upper jay]

yea get bounty hunter epicatom

[shy egret]

ok

I have 14.36 gold

[upper jay]

bounty hunter is a good way to get gold so you’ll get it faster in order to buy trader

[marsh dirge]

Dailies and bounty hunter make gold only then

[shy egret]

yeah that's what I was thinking

[marsh dirge]

And helping strangers

[upper jay]

you get like .32 gold per bounty if you complete the bounty in 12 minutes

[marsh dirge]

Ye

Otherwise like .16

[shy egret]

you can gt gold from the showdowns and others like that

[marsh dirge]

Oh yeah

[upper jay]

i think every 3 minutes you spend doing the bounty you get .8 gold

[marsh dirge]

I suck at it though

[shy egret]

yeah same xD

[upper jay]

so if you spend 12 minutes you get .32 obviously

but then after 12 minutes you only get like .4 i think

[marsh dirge]

I feel like everyone has controller and therefore auto aim...

[shy egret]

I don't

[marsh dirge]

Same

[shy egret]

but yeah

[devout cliff]

Mhm, wait as long as you can for gold, if that's what you're trying to make with bounties

[upper jay]

if you don’t use auto aim i suggest using snipers

[shy egret]

they prbbl have dead eye

[upper jay]

your status is a lie

[devout cliff]

It stops at like 25 minutes though at .44 gold

[upper jay]

too late

go bed

[devout cliff]

It's like 5:29

[shy egret]

I just realized I haven't even collected the collector role

[marsh dirge]

I guess I’ll wait til I get the trader and moonshiner roles then

[upper jay]

don’t forget to bring snakes and butter

[shy egret]

I did the gta thing

so I get it for free

[novel turret]

Anybody wanna tag along for a couple deliveries? First we're doing a moonshine delivery and then a 100/100 distant delivery

[marsh dirge]

Yeah

[novel turret]

Got 3 spots in posse

[shy egret]

ok

[upper jay]

also, actually, when you sent that it was 5:30

all you say is lies, like damn you just hurting my feelings and shit dude

[shy egret]

wait it's 5:30am for u?

[upper jay]

i mean .. no

[shy egret]

for me it's 12:33

[upper jay]

pm, but now it’s 5:32

[shy egret]

UTC +2

[upper jay]

or 1732

if you do that kind of thing

[shy egret]

ok

[marsh dirge]

For me it’s 23:32 oof

[shy egret]

17:32 and yeah we use that in Finland

[marsh dirge]

I’m tired after school

[upper jay]

go bed

[marsh dirge]

@shy egret Sweden here 😉

[upper jay]

throw you in a hole with snakes and rotten butter

[shy egret]

bra

[marsh dirge]

Lol

[hexed plaza]

70

[shy egret]

är du (bad) svenska pojke/flicka

[marsh dirge]

xD

Nej

[shy egret]

okej

[marsh dirge]

Do you learn Swedish in school?

[shy egret]

yeah

[astral plinth]

köttbullar!

[marsh dirge]

I heard some people do

Lmao

[shy egret]

med lingånsylt

[marsh dirge]

xD

Precis

[shy egret]

everyone in finland has to

because 4% of finland's population speaks swedish

[marsh dirge]

Oh ok

Kewl

xd

Is it hard

[shy egret]

AKA it's second official language of finland

[marsh dirge]

Ebic

[shy egret]

fun fact

perkele torilla tavataan

[marsh dirge]

What lol

I only recognize perkele

[shy egret]

perkele see you at the market place (translatet by google translate)

[marsh dirge]

Tortilla too but idk if it means what I think it does

Lol

[shy egret]

tori

torilla=at the market place

[marsh dirge]

Oh

Lmfao

[shy egret]

it's a finnish thing to say "torilla tavataan"

[marsh dirge]

Ok

[shy egret]

omg

mr.sweden is here

@marsh dirge hello

[marsh dirge]

Huh

[shy egret]

he my friend

[marsh dirge]

He Swedish too?

[shy egret]

ye

[marsh dirge]

O nice

[shy egret]

I am lvl2 now

in this server

[marsh dirge]

So you’re new to it

[shy egret]

r u talking bout rdr or this server

I mean I am new to rdr too (lvl 12)

[wanton horizon]

how long do you guys think it will take to get trader 10. im 3 right now

[upper jay]

a while

[marsh dirge]

Oh ok

[upper jay]

i suggest looking at #deliveries-pc or just #pc-lfg and wait and see if anyone asks for help in a 100 good delivery

usually people @ the entire role so you should get a notification if you have the role

[wanton horizon]

righto

do i get xp from it to?

[upper jay]

..i mean yea that’s why i suggested it

[wanton horizon]

k cheers

i just woke up so braindead

[marsh dirge]

trader 3 won't take long

*10

[upper jay]

i’m just braindead all the time

[marsh dirge]

same haha

[shy egret]

I was braindead some time ago

wait you guys were joking, weren't u☹️

||JK||

[marsh dirge]

i stole some noobies trade load

i feel bad

[shy egret]

you should

[marsh dirge]

i chased him down shoot him and his friend

[shy egret]

shame on you

[marsh dirge]

and then i saw its just a small load

so i left them

and then they hunted me

so i killed them again and stole it

[shy egret]

good

rot in hell

[marsh dirge]

Lmao

[wanton horizon]

you scared me meow

i was delivering 8 goods

and two people rolled up beside me

[marsh dirge]

the funny thing is

they were literally 50-100m away from annesburg

[wanton horizon]

👀

my camp is up in big valley. i have to go all the way to blackwater just to get a gunsmith

wait

there

isnt a gunsmith..

[marsh dirge]

ye that was red dead 1 haha

[wanton horizon]

FUUUUCK

valentine it is

spending so much on fast travel

[marsh dirge]

also could anyone tell me how to remove persistent posse members when i look at the menu its just empty is there a workarround?

[wanton horizon]

what revolvers should i put in my holsters

i have an offhand now

[plush drum]

What revolvers do you have?

[wanton horizon]

just cattleman

i havent touched revolvers yet

[plush drum]

Oh uhhh

[wanton horizon]

i have rifles and a shotgun, but no extra handhelds

i have a grand

[plush drum]

The Navy Revolver is good

[wanton horizon]

ive heard the reload time is shite

[plush drum]

Makes up for it with its damage and style

[wanton horizon]

do i get one and have cattleman and navy?

[plush drum]

You could get the LeMat instead, similar stats but 9 shots + an underbarrel shotgun thing

[wanton horizon]

eh

[plush drum]

I guess it depends what you want out of your revolvers

[wanton horizon]

probably something im not gonna rage at for being in the middle of combat and dying cause of reload

im shit at games and blame it on the game

[plush drum]

You'd be better off buying a semi auto is your level is high enough

[wanton horizon]

25

[plush drum]

But if not, maybe get another gentleman

OR

[wanton horizon]

schofield looks fun

[plush drum]

Go to the fence and see if you can buy the High Roller Revolver

[marsh dirge]

question , does the navy revolver looks like the gta 5 one?

[wanton horizon]

whats it like?

[plush drum]

Shoots faster than most revolvers, not bad reload

[wanton horizon]

DMG?

[plush drum]

Probably less because of its faster fire rate

[wanton horizon]

looking for something to dink people

[plush drum]

But headshots make damage pretty irrelevant since they're always one shots

[wanton horizon]

so damage is priority

k

[plush drum]

You'll want accuracy

[wanton horizon]

righto

so what is best accuracy?

[plush drum]

I'd say look for yourself and conpare the accuracy of the sidearms you can buy

[wanton horizon]

ok

[plush drum]

I'm not too familiar but I'd say probably the Navy or LeMat

[wanton horizon]

yeah ok

[plush drum]

Don't take my word for it tho

[wanton horizon]

navy is slightly better than lemat

[plush drum]

Which is cheaper?

[wanton horizon]

schofield has full 3 bars though

and Navy is cheaper, $275

[plush drum]

Then personally I'd go with the Navy

[wanton horizon]

righto then

[plush drum]

But if you can afford the Schofield then you can get it if you really want all the accuracy you can get

[marsh dirge]

does it look like the gta 5 variant??

[plush drum]

I don't know sorry

[wanton horizon]

Dorsal the schofield is cheaper

[marsh dirge]

with killing score engraved on the barrel

[plush drum]

oh ok

Like I said it's up to you

[wanton horizon]

they do looked similar

shape wise

not sure about killing score

[marsh dirge]

i send u a pic

[junior rock]

The infinite loading screens are getting more... bold

I didn't even get into the game at all this time

[wanton horizon]

just bought the navy

improved sights just makes the hammer bigger lmao

[plush drum]

oof

Does it change the front sight post?

[lofty ridge]

Hey. I have an issue to find daily owls.

[wanton horizon]

no

big valley

[plush drum]

Dang

Yeah Big Valley is a good place to check

[wanton horizon]

@lofty ridge head out west

into big valley

[lofty ridge]

yes. The place is fine. but Do I have to make them fly or something?

[wanton horizon]

look in little creek river they hang around the edge of the forest

no

varmint rifle

dink them in the head

the navy revolver is insane

[marsh dirge]

I have the schofield and it’s good

I don’t know compared to other revolvers except for the starter one tho

[wanton horizon]

i need to keep levelling trader but its the same shit over and over again

[marsh dirge]

i use the varmint rifle for PvE

[plush drum]

Have you been doing ressuplies or have you been buying supplies?

[wanton horizon]

resupplies

i go hunt

bring the thing back

[marsh dirge]

its super precise and has 0 recoil + fast reload and instadead with headshot

[wanton horizon]

go out again

Last night i spent 2 hours doing that

waiting for 25 goods

then i would make the run

[marsh dirge]

you could do bounties in the meantime

or moonshine stuff

[wanton horizon]

eh

dammit i just shot a 3 star boar in the head and i got disconnected

im gonna go play story for a little bit

I hated the start. absolutely disgusting just walking around in snow on a horse. it was like 3 missions in a row

[plush drum]

The game's not fast paced so strap in for a long ride

[upper jay]

i never really got into the story

i just bought the game for online mode

[wanton horizon]

same, so i could yeehaw with my friend

[brave dome]

anyone wanna group shoot me a pm

[jolly leaf]

Same here, I bought gta just to play online

[narrow glacier]

yikes...

imagine buying some of the best single player games of the decade just to play them online.

[brave dome]

kids with no attention span

[narrow glacier]

arthur cant rank up his moonshiner role. fuck dat. 👎

[marsh dirge]

I didnt play SP yet

cause when i bought it on Ps4 i literally had 10fps in the 1st mission

[narrow glacier]

eeeeeyooooof

[wanton horizon]

pc is better

[narrow glacier]

thats a valid excuse.. a year ago

[marsh dirge]

well i bought the game in september for ps4

[narrow glacier]

what in tarnation?

ive never had any fps issues on ps4..

[upper jay]

the only game with a good story that i’d play through the entire story would be tlou part 2

[narrow glacier]

except when i do infinite ammo and spam dynamite in st denis

[marsh dirge]

my ps4 is REALLY OLD

[upper jay]

with the first tlou i played the multiplayer a lot after i beat the story, but i did beat the story a couple of times

[junior rock]

Tried to get a bounty and it said I've done a job too recently

[marsh dirge]

i think i bought it ina bundle with destiny 1 when it came out

[jolly leaf]

If a game that I'm interested in has an online mode, I'm going to play that instead of the story lol

[upper jay]

but with rdr2 i just didn’t bother playing through the story and went into online

[narrow glacier]

@junior rock welcome to the life my lad

[upper jay]

most CoD games people don’t bother playing the story lmao

[marsh dirge]

the most annoying part of buying rd2 for ps4 was

they literally announced the pc version a day later

[upper jay]

or i should say most players who are intense with multiplayer

[brave dome]

cod is different than a rockstar game

[upper jay]

still a game with a story

[marsh dirge]

a shit story

[brave dome]

not the point

[marsh dirge]

RUSSKIS=EVIL

[wanton horizon]

completelyt different

[marsh dirge]

CHINESE=EVIL

[jolly leaf]

When I bought MW I went straight to multiplayer for a few weeks, when I finally decided to play the campaign I platted it in 2 days

[marsh dirge]

AMERICA=GOOD

[upper jay]

with rdr2 i feel like the online mode brought me completely away from the story

much more fun to play with friends imo

[jolly leaf]

^

[narrow glacier]

rockstar games have narative, character development, story line progression.

[upper jay]

you can’t tell me you didn’t feel it when ghost died in modern warfare

that’s character development, a character you got attached to

[narrow glacier]

COD games have "RUN HERE, SHOOT THAT, YOU'VE BEEN BETRAYED AND KILLED. TIME TO ASSIMILATE ANOTHER GRUNT TO MURDER PEOPLE"

[upper jay]

rdr2 is spend 20 minutes to get to the next mission on horseback and go here and kill some people

[marsh dirge]

ye cod story is the WORST example ever for story

[jolly leaf]

I'm sure most just play the campaign because the trophies are easy to get

[narrow glacier]

@upper jay or get in a bar fight, or take a child fishing, or take your slutty lady friends to valentine

[marsh dirge]

pls no spoiler

[upper jay]

a lot of stories are linear, sure they can develop better and actually make you care for the characters more with good story telling, but it’s just linear

[marsh dirge]

😿

[plush drum]

RDR2 has a great story but it's not something you should rush through.

[upper jay]

you can summarize every game with “go here and do that”

at least with online you can do different things with more people

[plush drum]

At a basic level all games are "go here do that"

Even online

[narrow glacier]

@marsh dirge might i interest you in #639837477959368714

[upper jay]

so i really just but rdr2 because i was interested more in online

also the game has been out for more than a year now, no ones going to cater for people who don’t want to hear spoilers

[jolly leaf]

Gg

[narrow glacier]

thats like saying "i bought this car because i like to sit down"

[upper jay]

for PC it’s been out for like 2 months

no that’s like saying i bought this car to race around with friends rather than just to sit in it by myself and go place to place

[narrow glacier]

fine fine. bad example

[upper jay]

i guess it depends on if you have friends or not if you’re more interested in online mode than the story

i mean, you are on the rdo chat after all

[narrow glacier]

nobody said i wasnt interested in the online part.

[upper jay]

i assume if you go to general or the single player channel you’ll have more people agree with you there

i’m just saying it depends on who you ask

we all have different reasons to do or get things

[narrow glacier]

yes yes.

everyone has their own life and choices. i see what you're saying sport.

personal preference and all.

[upper jay]

yes that is correct

aha, i remembered.. dark chocolate is what i wanted to buy.. dang forgot to get it while at the supermarket

[narrow glacier]

it just seems a shame that people would overlook the single player solely for the online experience.

you like it bitter i see.

[upper jay]

i make hot chocolate with it

[narrow glacier]

that's a good choice. it started snowing here today.

[undone flare]

Good Evening all

[upper jay]

and i see it more like this, i can just watch other people play the game in walkthroughs and stuff, i’ll get the same if not similar experiences from it just by watching someone else play

[narrow glacier]

beunos tardes

[upper jay]

but with online i can like.. directly share the progress i make with friends

and i like playing with friends y’know

[undone flare]

grande bolas

[narrow glacier]

fuckin what?!

i got sheriff woody'd

@upper jay im a forever alone so playing single player vs online is minimal difference for me

[lofty ridge]

I just got a wild horse. I spawned in a couple of horses pressed triangle and ramed it. But i didnt have spavce for it. I bought a slot and after I left the stable the horse was gone. What can I do..

[upper jay]

you can’t do that in online

[undone flare]

Everytime I try to posse up I sit and wait for over 30 minutes and nothing... so I thought I would find a RDR discord and here we are 🙂

[narrow glacier]

@lofty ridge you cant tame wild horses in online. they must be purchased from the stable

[upper jay]

you can only buy horses, you can’t steal or get wild horses

[lofty ridge]

oh

okay

[upper jay]

yea

[lofty ridge]

So why did I tame it at all thenn.......

[narrow glacier]

im gonna guess it ran away after you "ramed" it...

[upper jay]

it’s dumb because when you first start online that guy is like, oh yea you can come back and sell us horses and shit but nah

bull

[lofty ridge]

y

[upper jay]

i hope there’s like a role for that maybe, or like a side mission you can do in some sort of rancher role

where good honor you tame a wild horse in some specific area and bad honor you steal a horse from some specific place/person

[narrow glacier]

that would be interesting.

[wanton horizon]

after a while you can purchase a stable and run it yourself

make big money

[narrow glacier]

i would like to see some kind of expansion to bounty hunting and collecting. or more crossover type stuff. like using collector items for moonshiner

[undone flare]

So, I am fairly new to the online experience with RD, is anyone up for playing? PC

[wanton horizon]

where are you from"?

[undone flare]

Florida

[narrow glacier]

@undone flare pick a role in #550659240633827329 then check the LFG

[wanton horizon]

Righto, Im from australia

[narrow glacier]

i could tell because just now you said "righto"

[wanton horizon]

Mhm

Im usually pretty good with grammar and things like that. Obviously accent gets in the way and Australian dialect

And its prawn on the barbeque. not shrimp on da barbie

[narrow glacier]

well yeahhh. you're not austrian..

[wanton horizon]

what

[barren linden]

You can now ping respective channels when Looking for players.
If you're looking for a group please checkout #role-request and select which system you play on. From there you can check out the how to channels to see how you can find players easier.

[heady river]

what.

[junior rock]

Anyone know how much you can make from a distant 100/100 delivery?

I'm guessing $500 but maybe I'm wrong

[heady river]

Posse members get 312.50

[junior rock]

That's not terrible

For the posse members I mean, it's fantastic for me

[wanton horizon]

yeh

what do you guys put into cripps to get max material

[heady river]

Whatever I can find.

[junior rock]

I don't really max out material, I just hunt whatever animals are nearby, but cougars are the best

[wanton horizon]

im putting in like 2 star average stuff

i need to find some cougars

mainly doe and bucks

[junior rock]

3 star cougars are worth 12(?) material

[wanton horizon]

10 i think

a 2 star pronghorn gives 6.5

which is epic

[junior rock]

Yeah that's not bad

[wanton horizon]

might be 3

idk

[junior rock]

I have my camp in the heartlands and I deadeye herds of deer with a rifle and slowly drag them back to camp

[wanton horizon]

i need a wagon tho, im only level 3

[heady river]

When you level up trader there's a little perk that makes animals worth more.

[wanton horizon]

yeah perfect pelt

The issue is its annoying to level trader and would be easier with a wagon, but you dont get the wagon until its easier to hunt

[heady river]

Yes.

[junior rock]

Yeah, best you can do is steal an NPC horse and load it up, load your horse up, and lasso another animal and drag it behind you

For a grand total of 3 medium carcasses and 4 small ones

That's if you hate yourself like me

[heady river]

Or just get people with wagons to help.

[junior rock]

That too

[wanton horizon]

i dont have friends

and that seems like more time i have

cause i get disconnected due to rockstar every 3 seconds

still really mad about that

the game doesnt crash anymore its just gettind dc'ed

Error: 0x20010006 is dumb and stupid and dumb and annoying and stupid and dumb

i just wanna play online

[celest elbow]

Problem with trader is my game glitches so I can never spawn the camp to donate animals

[summer timber]

black Santa

[wanton horizon]

i preordered and played from release

[summer timber]

I am black Santa

[wanton horizon]

k

[summer timber]

I’m not white

fuck white Santa

[marsh dirge]

Woah there

The dude is married alright

[upper pumice]

What shotty you guys perfer in red dead

[rustic rapids]

double barreled/pump

thats my favorites

[upper pumice]

I like the double barrel but i feel it isnt like powerful

Trying out pump and repeating shotgun

[errant forge]

Double barrel is irrelevant in online because of only 2 shots

[rustic rapids]

2 shots kills any player

1st shot stuns, 2nd shot blows the head off

[errant forge]

Sawed off is the better double barrel

[rustic rapids]

i will never replace my cattlemans 😄

[errant forge]

Double barrel is theoretically useful in 1v1

Theoretically

[upper pumice]

They need a tiny handgun for red dead that is overpowered lul

[errant forge]

A kolibri

But the time period isn't right

Rip

[rustic rapids]

well we are getting Derringers soon 😄

[upper pumice]

Semi, Pump and repeating shotgun i dunno what to decide

Theyre the same

Except 1 more ammo on repeat

[errant forge]

Repeating

2 guns in one

It acts as a repeater when you use slugs

[upper pumice]

Hm

Pretty much sounds like one

[errant forge]

Mhmm

[rustic rapids]

Never use slugs !!

then go for dual Lemat

[errant forge]

I use a repeating shotgun with a carcano

Repeating handles both close and mid range for me

[rustic rapids]

since Lemats "shotgun" have longer range than saved off

[upper pumice]

Mainly when pvp, i use bolt and carnago, showdown carnago and pump with hammer

[rustic rapids]

use throwing knife as melee, faster attacks, you can basically just spam melee and dude cant dodge

[errant forge]

Bolt and carcano?

But both are rifles

Interesting choice

[upper pumice]

On xbox

Dont have pc aim here

[errant forge]

Shotguns wreck on console

Auto aim is good

[upper pumice]

Same as freeaim

[rustic rapids]

get the mouse and keyboard for xbox 😄

[upper pumice]

But i hate the slippary bastard card with it

Doesnt work for me e.e

[rustic rapids]

😦

[errant forge]

@rustic rapidsu wot

Wait, that's illegal

[upper pumice]

They actually will release that soon

[rustic rapids]

illegal ?

[errant forge]

Using MnK on console

[rustic rapids]

xbox one is supporting that

[upper pumice]

^

[errant forge]

Directly?

And you can play with controller users?

[upper pumice]

Probably only specific games

And the internet engine

[rustic rapids]

seems like it. on xboxs support page there is about "Mouse and keyboard support on Xbox One"

might be rex

[upper pumice]

So far you can use a keyboard on the internet engine only

If you plug a usb in

[errant forge]

Yeah

Even PS3 had that

[high seal]

I haven’t tried it on Red Dead. But I’ve used mouse and keyboard on my Xbox with sea of thieves.

[upper pumice]

Xbox streaming app so i can play red dead everywhere in mah house now e.e

[errant forge]

Even on Alexa?

[rustic rapids]

thought about getting a xbone, but dont want to start over in rdo

[errant forge]

Wot

[upper pumice]

Not worth it

2 times the grind

[rustic rapids]

yea but no modders 😄

[errant forge]

Oof

Use a VPN to play @rustic rapids

[upper pumice]

Atleast theres no hackers in consoles lul

[errant forge]

Preferably somewhere in Asia

I see no hackers almost

Except that one weekend where I saw like 5

[upper pumice]

Usually in gta

[errant forge]

But before moonshiners I only saw one in a showdown

That's it

Moonshiners broke the game

[rustic rapids]

5-10 mins in any session, and i get randomly blown up, guess my rank makes them mad and go crazy

[errant forge]

America?

[rustic rapids]

Eu

[errant forge]

Ah

Everywhere except Asia seems to be a shit experience wrt hackers

Ironically

[upper pumice]

Pretty much..

[errant forge]

I don't even see many Chinese players somehow

[upper pumice]

For some reason i like the cloth wrap e.e

[rustic rapids]

Me2 😄

[errant forge]

It is nice

Leather looks too out of place

Just slapped on

[short cedar]

Been having a lot of fun pvping. I totally do it to hear the raging in all the different languages XD

[errant forge]

Cloth looks like its a gun you love

[upper pumice]

Dark walnut and cloth dark grey is lit with all iron barrel and 1 dark

[errant forge]

Like how snipers consider their guns

Showdowns? @short cedar

[upper pumice]

Is it me or it just that i keep changing my character appearence clothing all the time e.e

[short cedar]

yeah

Featured series.

[upper pumice]

Holy i did not knew there were sandals in this game

[plush drum]

now you knew

[indigo tangle]

[marsh dirge]

Good afternoon le moyne shine pushers , revenuers comin to do damage

[rustic rapids]

IRS got nothing on me !

[pulsar arch]

🚔

[marsh dirge]

wee woo wee woo wee woo wee woo

[plush drum]

Tried to take a potshot at a random player down the cliff from camp

So uh

How do you explain to someone that you didn't mean to actually hit them when you shot at them?

[marsh dirge]

A headshot usually works

Either that or free pizza

[plush drum]

It was a center mass shot

[marsh dirge]

It’s your call

[plush drum]

Just my luck I actually kill someone the one time Im not trying to

[marsh dirge]

I manage to do that all the time with NPCs

Many men have met their maker at the hands of fan the hammer

[opaque latch]

Does anyone have a spot open in their posse that they’re trying to fill? (Ps4) Trying to find a RD friend group.

[rustic rapids]

Wrong platform 😛

[red garden]

how do i start the moonshine role

[quasi wigeon]

You buy the shack

[red garden]

where

from where

[quasi wigeon]

I was automatically put into a cutscene since i logged in the day it came out. I chose in the pause and progress section 'to become a moonshiner '

[rustic rapids]

are you trader rank 5 ?

[quasi wigeon]

Oooo

Forgot that

[rustic rapids]

if not, then you dont have the option to become moonshiner

[small geode]

Do we need to do a sell mission to get the 30 minutes for the poison poppy recipe?

Or can we do a bootlegger

[rustic rapids]

Poison poppy recipe ?

if it is exp locked, then you can just spam bootlegger/story

but fastest way to level up moonshiner is spam weak moonshine and bootlegger

ah nvm.... Poison poppy is a urban legend. 😄

[dense hollow]

I’m pretty sure it’s any mission

[rustic rapids]

done all story missions on ruthless, completed 100 deliveries ect (Moonshiner Award is 22/23) pretty sure its not on in lootable yet

people who said they have it, cant somehow post a screenshot as proof.

[gilded crag]

proof all over reddit

its 1 oleander sage, 1 poppy, and 1 bottle of absinthe.. but i still dont have it

keep getting put in full lobbies

[rustic rapids]

i am mostly alone in my sessions, since i go afk at outfitter when i go to sleep, when i get back i am all alone 😄

[pulsar arch]

I don’t know a single person who’s done the poison poppy recipe

I’d also like to see some photos if you’re claiming to have finished that one off

[dense hollow]

It’s random

You get a random moonshine free roam event (much like the dog, or the camp attack) and you check any chests that are in said event locations.

It’ll generally be inside that, though apparently there is a short cool down after missions (about 30m) before it’ll spawn. (If my understanding of that is correct)

[pulsar arch]

That’s as of yesterday, but true

[dense hollow]

Oh yea shit was dumb broken before

[pulsar arch]

R* forgot to turn that ambient event on back when they release MS

Lmao

[dense hollow]

Actually it was on

But what was happening was that it was coded to compound the cool down timer after each mission

So you had like days of cool down stacked up because all you did was chain moonshine missions lol

[pulsar arch]

Aaah, makes sense

[dense hollow]

Smol Indee Compnee and all that

[heady river]

smallll

[jaunty olive]

Can you only ever deliver a max of 20 moonshiner bottles?

[heady river]

Yes.

[marsh dirge]

Minus the almost inevitable damages if you don’t drive like a granny

Seriously, what’s up with that? The pay doesn’t justify all that hard work

Getting a bit too realistic for my liking

[midnight glade]

twitch prime members, how long did it take y’all to get the free collector’s bag?

[manic python]

@marsh dirge sometimes I can drive on a straight, smooth path and not hit anything at all and I’ll still lose a tick or two from the gauge

[pulsar arch]

@midnight glade shouldn't take longer than 72 hours after linking social club x twitch prime

[midnight glade]

hm alright, it’s been a little under a day now but i’ll keep checking

[wanton horizon]

I remember buying sea of thieves stuff and it took 12 days for microsoft to give it to me

[barren linden]

You can now ping respective channels when Looking for players.
If you're looking for a group please checkout #role-request and select which system you play on. From there you can check out the how to channels to see how you can find players easier.

[marsh dirge]

That’s crazy

I usually get my stuff instantly

[indigo tangle]

Damn havent receives the free kladruber yet. Like 3 days already

Not like i care much already got the widely superior breed hungarian but still

They take so long

[graceful zinc]

I need to use my coupon too lol

[pulsar arch]

it's the lowest level klads too : (

not even worth the stable slot

[silk bobcat]

The game just reset my dailies

Nice

As in my streak

[pulsar arch]

yesterday was pretty time consuming to get even one daily

easiest was to change a weapons appearance

sure you didn't just forget? ; )

[errant forge]

whatre the dailies today

[pulsar arch]

kill 3 wolves, emote at local, 1 story mission, 3 player kills from cover (free roam event), skin 2 raccoons, cook seasoned crustacean and 5 chain pickerel caught

i can see finding crustacean and 5 fish being a a fkn chore

[marsh dirge]

I had already put aside crustacean meat for this very situation

I’ve probably sold it like an idiot knowing me

[errant forge]

Where are crabs lol

I didn't even know this game had them

[devout cliff]

On an island west of Rhodes if I remember right

I'd have to actually look at the map or pinpoint it

[errant forge]

I see

Thanks

[pulsar arch]

damn i already glitched in to guarma for 'em

[marsh dirge]

Yeah like Lilith said there’s a little cluster of islands off the coast near Rhodes

Crabs can take a while to spawn

If you can, join a lobby for all your free roam stuff and leave it to last so that you hopefully have a quieter lobby

More chance of getting spawns

[versed roost]

yestarday morning I got into a lobby with 32 players. it's pretty rare that I get into full lobbies like that

Usually its around 20-24 players

ofc there was no animals at all as you would expect. Not even a single alligator in bayou nwa lol.

if the consoles or their servers can't handle 32 players + animals then they should max the player count to 16 players + animals.

[astral plinth]

can I use dynamite to catch chain pikarel

[modest crown]

you gotta hook em up instead of blowing them to smithereens

but A for creativity

[astral plinth]

oh okay, thanks

[marsh dirge]

bandolier only for appearance, or allows you to carry more rounds?

[devout cliff]

Online, appearance only

[marsh dirge]

Does your game often freeze spontaneously at a random moment?
or game a freezing with a "shaking screen"?

Recently, it has happened so often that I had to write a few support mes.

// PC.

at the same time I have 32GB of RAM, and there is simply no reason for the game to freeze

[astral plinth]

if I cook food, can I give it away to a posse member?

[devout cliff]

My game on console freezes at random moments, literally happened today in a fight great timing so I'mm not shocked it does on pc too

And nah, cooked food goes to you

[astral plinth]

what about uncooked food

[devout cliff]

They'd have to skin the animal to get the food

Otherwise, it just goes to you when you skin it

[astral plinth]

okay thanks

[modest crown]

infinite loading screens again

[marsh dirge]

[fiery canopy]

[marsh dirge]

Does anybody know when the moonshiner sale ends?

The 25% off moonshiner role

[devout cliff]

Tuesday, probably

[marsh dirge]

Oof ok

Lmao I was in the #624629268294402066 challenge when the new video came up

I was just gonna say it took longer today for it to be released

Bruh so today I found a stranger needing help just after I started playing, but not yesterday when it was a daily...

[astral plinth]

what fast travel is close to lake isabella

[marsh dirge]

@astral plinth colter is closest

[barren linden]

You can now ping respective channels when Looking for players.
If you're looking for a group please checkout #role-request and select which system you play on. From there you can check out the how to channels to see how you can find players easier.

[astral plinth]

how do I take cover

what keyboard button

[rustic rapids]

Lol king of the castle free roam event is a joke..... winning gives you 0.08 gold. but having the most kills gives you 0.24 gold

fuck objectives then....

R* Logic i guess

@astral plinth standard should be Q

[astral plinth]

I quick joined takeover series in L menu, and I used Q to cover and killed several players but my daily challenges says 0/3 players kills from cover

[rustic rapids]

its because its freeroam

you have to wait for any pvp free roam to appear, the quick join shootouts etc doesn't count

[astral plinth]

oh okay

[marsh dirge]

WTF!!!!!

DISCONNECTED FROM SERVER JUST AS I WAS ABOUT TO END A LEGENDARY BOUNTY!

[astral plinth]

how often do they appear, the free roam pvp events

[marsh dirge]

I’ve never fucking been disconnected before but now I do!?

[rustic rapids]

@marsh dirge redo

[marsh dirge]

Omfg I’m so pissed off

I don’t want to redo

[rustic rapids]

@astral plinth sent ya a pm, its in PST though

@marsh dirge get used to it.. 😄

[devout cliff]

The free roam events are like 45 minutes

if not including role ones

[marsh dirge]

Now I understand why everyone else is so pissed at their servers

[rustic rapids]

if i dont disconnect at least once every hour , then there is something wrong 😄

[errant forge]

Do y'all know if port forwarding has any negative effects

[marsh dirge]

They really need to fix it

Like why tf in a middle of a legendary bounty that I rarely ever do

Now I lost all will to play

Great

[rustic rapids]

Thats the least annoying disconnect for me, i mostly disconnect seconds before delivering my supply wagon

and i only do long hauls

[marsh dirge]

;-;

The game is probably doing it on purpose to fuck with you

[rustic rapids]

i bet 😄

[errant forge]

Supply wagon or delivery?

[rustic rapids]

delivery

[errant forge]

Oof atleast you don't lose it

The goods

[rustic rapids]

supplies i just order

[errant forge]

Yep

Ever since it glitched to be free for us

[rustic rapids]

unless there is a daily

yea

[lofty ridge]

Wtf!

My game crashed last night and I just didnt restart and went to bed. Now I cant start it cuz it says ERR_GFX_STATE.

What can i do

[errant forge]

change graphics api to directx

[rustic rapids]

go to Documents\Rockstar Games\Red Dead Redemption 2\Settings and delete the files that have sga_ attached to the name,
and change api to Dx ingame

whats the cooldown on bootlegger misisons, is that 10 or 15 mins ?

[errant forge]

10 I think

[rustic rapids]

cheers

[errant forge]

[opaque cairn]

Why can't change appearance? Infinite loading...

[devout cliff]

Load an elimination series

back out

then change appearance

[rustic rapids]

^That

[opaque cairn]

@devout cliff back to free roam?

[devout cliff]

Mhm

[opaque cairn]

Ok ty

[astral plinth]

game says im too hot, but my outfit in wardrobe says its suitable for hot temprature

[short cedar]

Good morning delinquents, lawdogs, ...grocers!

[marsh dirge]

try editing facial options maybe game is turned on

[low garden]

^^^

[humble helm]

is there a list for all these coupons on what I can buy I'm tired of trying to find the correct clothing that can be used, it seems like all the vests don't use the discount at all :/

[shy egret]

where can I find the collector

[rustic rapids]

find a mirror 😛

[shy egret]

what?

[rustic rapids]

only collector is you once you have bought the role 😛

#624629540949590016

😛

[shy egret]

I collected all of the playing cards in gta so now I need to find her again so I could collect the role

[rustic rapids]

check #624629540949590016

[shy egret]

oh

thanks

[astral plinth]

why do you see the account name and not the character name created in apperance?

on other players

[rustic rapids]

R* logic

thats why I changed my account name to my character name

if the game mechanics would make sense, then it wont be a R* game 😄

[shy egret]

wait what

[astral plinth]

😊 👍

[shy egret]

why can't I get the collector's bag

for free

[rustic rapids]

did you just collect the cards ? if so, then within 72 hours you should get it automatically (think thats what a m8 said)

[shy egret]

does it mean the gta cards?

or rdro

[rustic rapids]

gta cards

[shy egret]

I collected the cards maybe 3 days ago I think

[rustic rapids]

but i am not sure

[shy egret]

wednesday

[lofty ridge]

game says im too hot

[rustic rapids]

Didnt know I could get stuff for free until ive maxed the roles 😦

[shy egret]

I collected the cards in wednesday night

[rustic rapids]

Game says I am hot as well, but all i can reply is "Yes I am" 😛

[shy egret]

for me it said too cold D:

[rustic rapids]

Heartless 😛

[astral plinth]

is there a keyboard button to hide gui

[shy egret]

well

[rustic rapids]

if there is, and you find it let me know 😄

[shy egret]

at least I bought the bounty hunter

license

[rustic rapids]

my character got his own facebook page (cause why not), and i hate the hud when taking screenshots. so i end up using the camera for everything 😄

[bleak mulch]

Morning guys!

[shy egret]

evening

or I guess this counts as afternoon

[astral plinth]

high nooooon

[shy egret]

wait no

[bleak mulch]

lol high noon - love it

[shy egret]

it's 4:24pm

[bleak mulch]

ah 9 a.m. here

[rustic rapids]

3:25 pm

its too bad that photo mode doesn't work online

[bleak mulch]

im new to the game but enjoying it rather well. Does this group have a listing of people whom play on PC where i could add them as friends?

[rustic rapids]

Best bet would be rightclick on people to check roles

[night agate]

@bleak mulch if you set yourself roles on here then you will have access to the pc channels 👍🏻

[bleak mulch]

yeah still trying to figure out how to set mine lol

[rustic rapids]

Or use #550659240633827329 and check in the pc specific lfg

[bleak mulch]

ha that was too easy

i think i set it up :-p thank you guys

[night agate]

Welcome 😁👌🏻

[rustic rapids]

Now you owe me 15 gold

:p

[bleak mulch]

put it on my tab im sure ill be asking other questions haha

[atomic hare]

It's amazing how much better the online game is in a private lobby

So many events

I just got the poison poppy recipe in one

I feel like this is a preview of the ps5 version of the game

[errant forge]

wtf

how do you get the poison poppy recipe

[atomic hare]

there was an event in the bayou with 2 dudes who were dicks to me

white dot event

[errant forge]

well

[atomic hare]

I shot them and searched their camp, and it was in one of the chests in their camp

[errant forge]

interesting

whatre the ingredients

[surreal coral]

I honestly didn't know you could have a private lobby in Online

[atomic hare]

oleander sage, prairie poppy, absinthe

[errant forge]

hmm

cool

[atomic hare]

@surreal coral you're not supposed to be able to, but sometimes the game kicks you into one

I get them with some bounties and bootlegger missions

[surreal coral]

Why can't that just happen to me every time i play with my wife

Poor thing, she tries, but fighting other players intimidates her

[rustic rapids]

i just start a legendary bounty, and run around and do hunting, and events

once i am done with that i complete the bounty

[atomic hare]

Can you do events when you're on a legendary?

[rustic rapids]

yea

is a full on session, with an objective though

Thats where i do most of my dailies

[marsh dirge]

guys

is it possible to use the meat wagon for big fishes too?

[rustic rapids]

yea

[marsh dirge]

oh nice

[surreal coral]

Yup, it'll fit 5 @marsh dirge

[marsh dirge]

just 5?lol

[surreal coral]

Yeah, the wagon fits 5 large carcasses. For whatever reason large fish are large carcasses

[marsh dirge]

oh okay sad

[surreal coral]

Indeed

[marsh dirge]

i wish there would be a fishing wagon

[rustic rapids]

but not worth it. fish in blackwater, southside of the pier, on the rock formation that sticks out.

its catch, sell, catch, sell etc

[marsh dirge]

did you try and see how much money you can make with it in 1h?

I mean collector is nice but it's kinda tedious to look everything up , mark , go there for 4 hours

[night agate]

I just fill up on sockeye salmon and sell for $50 👌🏻

Can easily catch 20 in about 10 mins

[atomic hare]

for collector just do coins and jewelry and it should be an easy $2k in 3 hours or less

[rustic rapids]

Never really been there fishing for more than 10 mins, my main income is condor egg, moonshine run and supply delivery

[surreal coral]

I've used the wagon to fish. Gotta find a good spot, but i can make $100 in 30 mins that way

[marsh dirge]

ye I like moonshine too

but it crashes alot when entering a bootleg mission

or my shine randomly disappears

[atomic hare]

it's infuriating when the game resets your cook like that

[marsh dirge]

OR i don't get notified it's done and then got to wait another 2h just to get the 250$ tag again

im at the pier i don't see any fishing swarms

so still big fishis here?

[surreal coral]

Get your pole out and use eagle eye

[night agate]

My moonshine always disappears... I gave up on it a little if I'm honest

[high seal]

You can fill up on pike pretty fast close to valentine. You don’t have to do a lot of reeling.

[marsh dirge]

yeah i was there

but i dont got the wagon so i had to walk

[high seal]

I recommend hunting wagon if you can get it. You can store animals in there and send it away without losing them.

[marsh dirge]

I had it on PS4 and it scared away all animals thats why I didn't buy it on PC

[high seal]

Use your horse to hunt. Get 2 animals and then call the wagon.

You can use a lasso to drag carcasses with fear of damaging them.

[rustic rapids]

i rarely drive on my wagon, i park it next to the cougar spawn in great plains, and farm it

[high seal]

You could also park it and steal a horse from an npc.

[rustic rapids]

true, but you dont have to go far to force the cougar to spawn, its like shoot, dump in wagon, move back down hil, wait 10 secs, go back up and poof another cougar

but again (in own session)

[high seal]

Yeah, animal spawns don’t work well in loaded lobbies.

[marsh dirge]

what bait do i use in blackwater

it says its a lake but i literally catched 1 fish in 15min

and that was some small fish

[rustic rapids]

Lake lure, or special lake

you can use eagle eye to see the large ones, and "time" your toss towards them

[civic cedar]

Has anybody got a solo lobby?

[rustic rapids]

Yea but you cant join

legendary bounty

[civic cedar]

Ok

[rustic rapids]

Gonna farm some Crabs and raccoons 😄

[marsh dirge]

lol this game has crabs?

[rustic rapids]

Yea, isles west of Rhodes

only way 'as i know" to get crustacean

meat

[high seal]

Yeah that island with the iguanas

[rustic rapids]

yea

[atomic hare]

I only found 2 crabs even in a solo

Was trying to stock up

[rustic rapids]

What i do is run around along the beach all the way around, so when i get to the spot the 2nd time there is another crab 😄

[vague cypress]

It's been a while since I played RDRO2 again... Can someone tell me how to drift on horses again?

[errant forge]

Space bar

[high seal]

If on Xbox it’s right bumper and A

[vague cypress]

Space bar makes it jump

[marsh dirge]

ye

[analog iris]

Anyone want to play?

[manic python]

@analog iris please use #pc-lfg.

as the channel description says, this is not an lfg channel.

[fiery canopy]

👀

[marsh dirge]

what does lfg mean

looking for gang?

xd

[fiery canopy]

Close enough lol

[brittle heath]

looking for group :)

[marsh dirge]

oh xd

[brittle heath]

from which stews do i get the most trader xp?

the golden ones?

or doesnt it matter? and how many can i cook a day?

[rustic rapids]

the top one gives trader exp

[analog iris]

Sorry :/ Im new to this

[atomic hare]

but only 300 with the boost I think

I just got 2500 for a long distance delivery

stews are pretty inefficient for leveling

[rustic rapids]

fastest way to level up trader is do long runs as soon as you have 25 goods, same with moonshiner, spam weak moonshine 😄

[marsh dirge]

lol fastest way to do trader is do a lvl 1 delivery shoot your wagon and turn in the leftovers

takes 5mins

no financial loss and like 400exp

[rustic rapids]

Oo

never destroyed my wagon 😄

[fiery canopy]

XD yeh

[marsh dirge]

well its easy just use something explosives or kamikaze it

[fiery canopy]

Find a duck lmfao

It'd hit it with a mass of a thousand suns

(Im just referrin to a vid, but it happened! )

[rustic rapids]

yea

ive seen that

[marsh dirge]

I wish they would up the bounty rewards

2$ doesn't even seem close to be justifable

imagine murdering a man for 4 carrots