#👑business-empire
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Yep. But all my family except for the weirdo pulls for nc state or anybody playing Carolina. The weirdo pulls for Carolina Tar Heels 😹
actually went to a game there when they played Gwinnett Braves..... on my honeymoon 🤦♂️
it's what she wanted😂
does the sat limit go up linearly or does it slow down as you get more? i cant tell
right now it tends to stall out for most around 146 - 150 they are working on reworking it and we should know more about when it might be fixed tomorrow some time.
just cashed out 172
I had 12 left over from last night before sleeping, and played for about 1.5 hours today
that is about my normal amount of time
That happened to me when I was playing last night, the withdrawal limit capped out at 146 and now it's at 292
Last time I got over 150 I hadn't played and cashed out in 3 days.
I dropped out of the game for a long time. I joined the first time I saw it announced.
when I came back I was able to do 300+ per day and it was really fast each time
then suddenly it slowed way down to what I get today.
it's not easy trying to figure out what works best. because it's not just watching ads for sure
I didn't cashout the first time until I had almost 2k sats and then I cashed like 1500 and since it's slowly dropped to what it is now.
🤣
stall out as in it doesnt go up anymore/goes up slowly?
as in it stops for a long period, long enough that I give up and just cashout for the day.
oh interesting
im at like 600+ and it seems to be going up the same speed as when i first started
mine did until that first cashout of 1500 sats.
that's the old fart poot & scoot. I'm very well practiced in the art
I don't look anything like that.
ok, I just cashed out 28 more sats and now the game isn't earning anything towards cashout.
that's a total of 200 sats today which includes 12 from last night.
Once I cashout I don't go back to get anymore.
just as routine here but makes no real sense currently to play more
as max invenstors are not needed
Oh oh 🙂
time to prestige and get a new letter 😄
fyi, chat about the balance today was that we were going to push it, but we got scared that we hadn't tested enough, and that we might be able to increase the balance even further so that is also being tested. I'm also going to test the prestige balance, because this is something we're also looking at, and we want to make sure nerfing it doesn't completely ruin the game experience
has anyone noticed their prestige balance getting harder? if so, let me know what you think, and if it puts you off.
I am high enough on investors that I don't notice the increase myself and really don't pay attention to the amout of increas in the number of invetors pe prestige any more. The payout/cashout limit I think is the thing that is talked about most by the players.
The other main topic is gems in gift boxes and if there is a chance for a higher amount in them through more upgrades.
@raven marsh @sacred hare @dull bane @steady grove @west zealot you all see what wongull is asking for our input on?
ah wait not yet. lemme check
for me the prestige is "easy" as before to be honest. similar to what BadCowboy says. it stays in Balance with the Money amount what is needed for the Tapping
Reason: Mass mention
main thing as BadCowboy says is gem of the giftboxes as an example latest upgrade didn't get an upgrade and stick at 10 gems which should be more and you should could upgrade it more
and also the withdraw limit but that is something what is already talked about and we hope for the implementation
so from my side i can just confirm with BadCowboy
oh relax Fumbot I'm asking for their input for wongull.
not plan to break it so it is still "slow playing"
that is now with the latest manager on #750
@buoyant willow you have anything to add for wongull on his information on the popst above from him?
currently i avoid to prestige to be honest as i have more sats that i can't wd and every prestige is maybe a step further to breaking the game
if that is still possible 😄
i mean i could try if you wish
we have @rapid wadi for that. lol
I think the plan with prestige is cut it by about 97.5%, and then release that alongside the earnings buffs
he is on another timezone i think 😄
do you guys anticipate that killing interest for you, or is it mostly earnings that is cared about?
the prestige has currently only the "reset factor" to restart the tasks
earnings we anticipate increasing around 5x
as an example i had now a task "upgrade your room 0/4" but this can't be solved
I care more about earnings, but you have to prestige to earn so they go hand in hand in that respect. 97.5% seems a bit much but it can be adjusted if that is the case I'm sure.
so i must prestige if i wanna get more sats
yeah, I think we'd likely overcorrect, but then adjust based on how it goes
I'm going to see if I can get a new game started with the new prestige and see how it plays
I'm willing to be in the test group for it.
I'm not sure how feasible it is, but will probably be something I can investigate on Tuesday. (bank holiday on Monday)
it would be awesome to easily assign people into test groups
who cares about the banks holidays
people who get a day off! (me)
device is ios and android available so would be also possible to start from scratch if another OS is needed for testing/feedback
you just had a week off
currently playing on android
that's true
never enough 😄
had this on every monday that i could get back straight to weekend 😄
I want to buy another tablet so I need all the sats i can get.
btw what should affect the prestige normally? for me i feel only a difference for the money which is needed from tapping
but the time which is needed for that tapping feels the same
room upgrades stays the same
can we please get the game in Malta so Kryten can stop begging fot it?
that would be also neat yeah
Amen. My brain died this week
too much game braking and head on the manager upgrade button 😄
maybe allowing malta would mean we could get a fresh perspective on the tested balance
i'll ask on monday if we can sneak it in
we won't tell Kryten so he doesn't get his hopes up.
lol you didn’t tag me so thought I wouldn’t notice. Please please please
hey at least we thought about you.
You did. For that I thank thee
we are not self centered you know this.
that is pure competition caht or get passed
One advantage of having all channels 😀 always watching
Plus my ears were burning
🤣
ears were burning from all that complains or what? ^^
you don't even go here!
I’m everywhere. Have you not noticed
Now which is the right gif...
😀
just because he can't play doesn't mean anything to him.
middlefinger would be the wrong one 😄
Oops I did it again 🙂
gonna start calling you Brainz 2
Wong said they dropped the resell investors by 97.5% im never leaving JJ 🤣
Good luck lol
ah that upgrade button is bugged.. like 75% of the time you cant hold it
If you move your finger a little yeah it stops and is a pain to get going again
Not fun when you need 4.5k of the last row lol
feels like its better to tap lol
Just not 4.5k times on a teeny tiny box 🤣
The tapping on the main game is way slower that BCM. if i tap like that it doesnt register
hm yeah it misses like 75% of the time aswell
so there must be something with the trigger
maybe it's your trigger finger?
nah not tapping with the middle finger 😄
Need to practice trigger discipline
Dont want it going where its not wanted
okay double digit letters incoming 😄
I think wongull was wanting input from us before they put it into effect.
Same with Miner
aa bb cc
houston we have a problem lol
you are a problem and I'm not in houston Belgan is.
NaN a plenty?
watching an ad will see after the ad 😄
if it doesn't break from the ad
looks like it is still working to me.
you did not really benefit from the high numbers as the speed is the same
and it is not needed to raise that managers that much
but if you raise them it is way too easy to get to the high numbers
I normally start mine at 50 and just increase for the task
only getting them to about level 110 or 120 most times.
more is not needed to easily finish the regular tasks until prestige
not once you get a few 100k investors
from my opinion they made not a big difference as it balance with the increase from the prestige with the increase of the costs
it is like the increase on idle mine
It needs more rooms but yeah its definitely a better balance now
have to build 5 or 6 rooms each resale.
I’m getting some sort of error. When I try to cash out it says I don’t have any sats but I have over 1600 and it can’t connect to the ZBD wallet.
If I click continue with ZBD nothing happens.
If I click link ZBD manually, then enter my gamer tag, still nothing happens.
Never mind. Restarted the game and now it’s working 🤷🏻♂️
Glad it’s working for you again 🎉
So dose anyone know what makes the investors move up in the game is it mission base upgrades just wonder
Feel free to @ me as well
investors go up when you get coins so when you have more managers you get more money and that gets you more invenstors
btw avoid getting high manager numbers as this will break your game ^
No. I need more!
game is then already broken 😄
Again
what should i say 😄
but ticket is already opened and this bug leads to following bugs
Thats odd
breaking the game is too easy currently
The bugs will get ironed out. Helps when you've got crazies like us 🤣
I bought the no ads subscription for £12.99, only getting it for one week to try and push my upgrades forward faster for that time, and it has seemingly just broken my game… ads are still being offered to me, my auto-tap is broken, things don’t upgrade when they say they have (which actually gives me unlimited upgrades but even so). Video evidence attached!
For some reason it won’t let me send evidence of the upgrade bug, but I can assure you it happens. It’s just broken I think…
#🔍help-desk bug report. Fumb will sort you out
based on that screenshot i didn't get it fully what the problem is as these upgrades are after every prestige level new. what is shown when you click on "me" and what is shown on the store related to the auto tap?
I did an update for this yesterday, but apparently there’s another one! It seems to be behaving now but if that changes ill get in touch with help desk. Thank you 🙏
Its an early beta game so there will be many bugs
So you get more the more money you earn is what your saying not by buying stuff
ingame money ^^. it is enough just todo the upgrades which are requested from the tasks currently
Ohhh boy I got version 0.1.9 now
Time to see what changes we have in this new version.
I have 158 sats from yesterday and it is showing 31 can be withdrawn right now.
still busy with idle miner and solving the even mines to check if its possible to solve it again without the pass
i had today with 0.1.8 147 sats and after that the change to 0.1.9 but not yet played again
well my cashout amount is at 143 now so we will see if it satalls out or not soon.
took a hour and a half to get there with only watching ads for gem gift boxes.
It seems I have withdrawal stall out at 145 even with the new update to 0.1.9
I got Crit Tap to 26% now though
don't like that the limit still stalled and at a even lower amount than I'd been getting, but tomorrow I will only have 21 sats when I start.
maybe 0.2.0 is the version we all want and need.
I’ll wait til then
Well, I started playing again Friday morning and I am up to the A's for investors now.
will see after a couple of mines if the investors are reseted
currently is the phone blocked 😄
Well my current missions is Earn Cash 1.80e+308
lol sounds well known
I've got over a million investors but gain so few per sell it seems to go up very slow for me.
the amount goes only high upwards when you put more managers in as needed
if you stick only to the needed ones for the tasks they wont increase much
Well, from when I posted the message of getting into the A's it was 1.56A but now that ive upgraded my managers its currently 60A...
I do more than it calls for but not a lot more.
Must be why I haven't broken the game yet.
I do the last 4 of them right after I sell up to level 50, then add 10 to them one at a time as I get task to do so.
but did not check it with the newest version to be honest
Well...should I sell? I could go from 962b to somewhere just over 200A...LOL
if you brake the game you won't get any gift packages anymore and you get only the forced ads
And sold for 282A
but with that ads you get the wd amount increased until you reach your regular wd cap
and reset is then only possible with upgrading managers again which bricks the game even more :;D
Yeah...the reason I started on Friday is becuase I broke the game the day it came out and never got it fixed until the update fixed it automatically.
so finishing that mine now and then checking if the game fixed with the update for me aswell
Im just trying to hit 1000 Reginald then sell.
Whats the "Cap" right now for investors before it breaks?
i think it starts with the double letters which increase then too fastr
*fast
it was Z then AA,BB,CC and so on
Well I just went from 300A to somewhere in the C's so I guess Ill just keep blowing it up and see. LOL
when it starts like that it goes too fast, you jump then with maxing the manager in 2 or 3 letter steps
Are there actually names for the managers? I've never bothered to look and see.
Yeah. Reginald is the last one.
No clue lol
My reggie hits 5k
Whats your perm multiplier? Just curious
i broke it with x13 😄
X13
errrrr....im a bit higher than that
then it is way easier to break it
Not sure ill need any more until the end of time
for me it lacks the usecase of high managers to be honest
as money from managers is more then fast enough
it lacks mostly on money from the tapping
and this is "locked" as these amounts are fixed
mine is like 37
And im at I thats eye....
1.80e+308 seems to be the coins ceiling
erm lol stupid mine rush... "ah only this mine to finish -> oh at 500ft again"
so 3 mines to finish for tomorrow to end up the event tasks
lets see what is going on in empire with the update
I need to do more in Idle just to build up my sats just can't seem to get into it anymore.
Okay no reset
But gifts again
I like how its not even recognize ive earned investors until im way ahead.
Mine says infinity lol
Puny numbers are no longer relevant 🤣
lol it counts backwards...
the number at the end lowers and now im back at JJ related to the current coins
Just need to get to 308 and I am at 179 🙂
reginald will solve it
game is just out of letters 😄 ZZ and then it starts with science numbers like 9,09e+101 and when you reach 10,01e+101 instead it increases to 1,01e+102
you just had to break it again didn't you.
that is no excuse
it is still working
for now
Hey
no one here breaking the game? ^
I'm working on Idle still.
got it. on idle i still need 2 mines now to finish the last task
mad at this game since I only got to cahout 145 yesterday. lol
then back to empire
will have to sell and rebuild miner first then to Empire.
already back on 8,41k sats on idle so i did not need it to be honest but its routine
I only have 274 right now after cashing out for the day so I'm getting tomorrows ready now.
is there a trick not glitch on the hold function for manager upgrade?
need to get from e+188 to e+308
Yep reachable in 2 minutes 🤣🤣
not with a broken hold button 😄
What gem upgrades do you have
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What does auto clicker max at
reduce the time between each autoclicker
on max it has 0.1s
multi x13, max auto clicker, max gift upgrade, max crit amount, crit taps currently at 18%
Do you buy the gems
I didnt even buy one lol
but it is not rly needed
And I have literally all the investors 🤣
I could get to KK but it'll take a while
you did not reach inifity on manager number 😄
I did, tgen went past it to NaN. Then fumb fixed it
Sell for is now capped on 10,5JJ aswell
NaN is ALL the investors
Yup
and the earn from tapping at LL
only to get to the "start" with e+308 takes a little
as hold bugs "a little"
suggest gift upgrade
as with that you get easier access to new gems
at 1.9x you get 10 gems per gift
nope
"morning"
Im surprised how hard it is to advance through sats even after buying the 12x booster
They just move the goal posts further out, especially on the tapping goals. Thats the one I really wanted to see progress on
hard? nothing about the game is hard.
I let the auto tapper do those
How do you get that one, buy it? Or gems
I close the forced ads, and check gift boxes if it has gems I watch the ad and close it, I do only the task for room upgradees and managers. All the others I let the auto tapper do.
It is in the shop for gems yes
then you upgrade it with gems.
Sounds like a good plan. Thanks @indigo frigate I'll look for that autoclicker. Goes a little quicker now with 10 gems per ad, ive got those fully boosted
The forced ads every 2 minutes are actually ridiculous
They are not every 2 minutes for me.
I'm not that far yet, but that's almost certainly a result of poor balancing.
If investors multiply by more than (cost increase/income increase) per 25 levels of a business, the game will eventually break.
it does not rly break to be honest you have just a display thing
as you have expotional numbers
Also need to remember its a very early beta, so its unlikely to be balanced properly
that in addition so feedback is always welcome
Where you from, Im from Florida but im actually getting screwed the ads. Sometimes theyre over 1 minute long for the gift box vids
Atlas earth sucks too, its always those ads
Since managers increase in cost by 15% per level, and the income increases by 7% per level and doubles every 25 levels, then every 25 levels is 1.15^25/(1.07^25 * 2) harder than the previous, given the number of investors remains unchanged.
Therefore, the formula for investors gained upon prestige should be: (Income since last prestige/500k)^((25 * log(1.15) - 25 * log(1.07) - log(2))/(25 * log(1.15))).
= (Income since last prestige/500k)^0.31752139334057883 (closest representable floating-point number).
Also, there's a bug where permanent income multipliers bought with diamonds don't apply to offline income.
that game is soooo easy that you didn't need any math for it
That's what it should be so that the game doesn't break. Since the exponent for investors is currently 0.4, there's a certain point after which players can hold down the button for one manager until it stops and then prestige immediately for a massive multiplier.
Though maybe the first investor should be at $50k instead of $500k if that exponent would make the progression too difficult.
Another bug: Claiming offline income and then prestiging for investors before the cash animation finishes leads to starting with that much cash after the prestige.
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so was the earning buff already in place but discord people get the "luck" not to get it? 🙂
nope, no buff yet
coming soon
hopefully today
but just for new users while it gets tested on a larger scale
and then will go to all users later
okay then i have misunderstood the posting
is there something specific that led to the misunderstanding?
i can edit, because i'd like to avoid confusion where possible
"as we've noticed a really big rise in tests when increasing the rate of SATs earnings. " this part leads to a little bit misunderstanding as this let you thought it was already tested
Ok cool
i believe it has been on a small number of users
i'll clear it up though, thank you!
you're welcome
is the "hold upgrade button" for the managers also already known?
especially with larger numbers like e+308 it is complicated to get the manager up to level around 5k 😄
It's not us so it's wrong and not tested. LOL get working Mr.
And Malta needs the game. I have to throw that in to keep Kryten happy.
also this would be a short communication way for feedback as we are always there 🙂
with dayshift and nightshift
your in good hands if we are the test group like a good neighbor we are there for you.
interesting no lightning but increased sat amount
I'd like to get that I've been getting 145 for several days now.
for me it was also today 145
I’ll let you know tomorrow I assume it goes down tomorrow
I've not played today been doing the cavern since I don't have the event in miner this week.
So no buff for loyal gamers yet
it's on the way just a matter of when now.
But what is it
keep checking for updates in the app store
Ok fine
Whats this mean
They should have a 1x, 10x, next, and max button for manager upgrades
Im getting there
We've asked
you could hold the button but it stops sometimes
5 thousand times 🥴
Nearly
More!
need infinity to upgrade 😄
it count downwards 😄
goes down until LL and then slowly increase again and need to reach e+308
It is easier. Its not infinity 🤣
*it is
stop breaking the game and it won't be as hard.
the game breaks me and goes alone back to "start" 😄
it's pay back/karma for not following directions and breaking the game in the first place.
it never told you to increase managaers more than 10 at a time.
was just two times.. first time and last time 😄
LOL
so i have 8 upgrades left :p
I think when I get 1200 gems this time I'm going to get another 12x multiplier just for giggles.
The bar is not moving anymore
you're not making enough money to move it fast.
you need to upgrade your manager now in a range of 4-5k 🙂
Why does it jump in difficulty like that?Suddenly
too much managers used
I'm sorry difficulty isn't the right word
how many investors do you have and what is your multiplier?
Lots (600?) And 12x
600? is what? 12x isn't enough at that amount of income needed.
I was flying through all of the earning steps.But now, suddenly, when the numbers have an e it got harder
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you're luck it hasn't broke yet
Yeah I think i've broken down now
🤣
Thats not broken. Not even close
We have the example crowd in the house to show you what broke looks like.
Just sell my investors and see how it goes
Broken again, imo
It goes from taking 3 seconds to complete cash from managers, to taking an impossibly long period of time
it's not broken if you sell it should change the task to maybe one you can do but you will get another one like that soon.
Upgrade your managers. Last one specifically
I did get another one like that, and its very very slow
My managers are maximum, top 6 probably
Thats maximum
are you trying to make it where you cant do anything until they update the game again?
You're on the road to JJ and hitting the ceiling. Its exponential investor gain for you now
Is that good
A few weeks ago no - it bricked the game. Now its ok
You need Reginald at around 4500 to get e308 in on hit
How do you get past this stage of "earnings from managers"
Dependable
Am I the only one not trying to break the game?
How are you doing it? It breaks itself?
I don't try to take the managers and investors to the max
Sounds weird
Its fun
Why would you not want your managers to do the most for you?
Also, helped the devs out with a long list of bugs
I get my sats and I quit for the day I start the last 5 managers at 100 and level them all up when I get a upgrade managers 10 times mission.
NaN is tasty
Can you be my boss? I would like my boss to only demand mediocrity or less
you can only earn so much from these games why go overboard for it.
I do more on other games that I can make more from.
I'd fire you if you worked for me because you don't follow instructions well.
Which instructions was i given
the task tell you what to do and how many times you obviouslt didn't just upgrade the managers 1 at a time by 10.
We know @rapid wadi sure didn't he broke the game twice but he was testing the limits of it for wongull so it was kind of following orders on a mission.
I mean. Id have done it anyway 🤷♂️🤣
yeah we know you would have.
it wasn't any less fun for you because you had the ok to do so either.
I must be helping wongull too
2nd time I was on a mission to speed run to NaN
Im being helpful
We all are it is an early release after all we all give him feedback on the game and we all play different ways and that helps him even more because we know what need tweeked to make it better for all players.
BadCowboy that help desk was a literal dead end.
how?
do you have anything in your channel list that says anything like ticke# in the list?
It asks what my issue is, and gives a list, and none of the issues on the list fit, so I select 'I still need help' Then, it asks for my platform, and there's nothinnog else there?
And no one ticket
On*
I still need help the it ask what game
No
a second drop down menu pops up under I still need help aksing game name, click the game then it ask platform the dropdown menu as if it's iOS(apple) or android
It did ask about system.
I just went through the steps on my pc that is what it ask in the menus
Thanks for your help, you've been very kind. Ill try back another time, when I have more time.
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once you select iOS or droid it gives a popup box with more questions for that type device.
Thank you ( bows)
I had to go check for myself I haven't done a ticket since the updated it.
I guess if I dont upgrade my managers, it doesn't break as much
you mean it doesn't increase as much on the cost?
Thats correct. If I dont upgrade my managers, the "earn cash from managers" tasks are reasonable, normal
ok I just wasn't sure that was what you meant .
Ive upgraded Reggie a little bit, so its hard to know exactly at what point the managers level breaks the task
I start them at 100 and when I get the task to upgrade I do the 5 I use all by 10.
At level 50, its not broken yet. At 550, it doesn't like that
normally gets them to 300 by the time I'm out of room upgrades and have ot sell.
That is what I have now and my cost are low so I can do things as quick as it let's me build the sats up almost.
Looks reasonable
no reason to over do it and gain nothing from it is the way I see it.
could be related to this #1501189876924551221 message
thx man, so less investor but more sats per mission... im totally fine with it 😁
could be possible 😄 not everyone has it
What is the game version you have?
0.1.9
didn't think that one had the buff in it.
huh, 5-8 sats per task has been normal to me since i installed the game....
Did you just start playing and that 8 sat task was part of the tutorial?
guess they tested on new players first XD
I know there was a 5 and 8 sats task in the tutorial not long ago but haven't heard of them in the game for anyone yet. It could be a test feature.
ok so i've withdrawn almost 1k sats from empire so far
I think I'm only on 0.1.8not even sure what version I have anymore it changes so often.
I went over 16 last night.
I would have a huge stockpile with those amounts for task and the 145 limit I'm stuck on now.
exactly. it's a really boring game for me because i hit the limit so fast and then just sitting there waiting to get to 140 something
That is why I do it how I do now.
you earns sats much much faster than the withdraw number ticks up
and god forbid you redeem something from the earnhub 😭
0.1.9 or 0.2.0 are supposed to change that and I hope everyone has it soon.
then you are just sitting and hoping for gem chests
I play another game on my phone while waiting too.
0.2.0 ain’t out yet
i'm on 0.1.9
Wow, check out @dull bane leveling up! Congratulations @dull bane, you are now Level 9!
At least for me
woot
How’s it going gang
i just updated today and made sure that my app store fetched for all app updates
the woot was for the level up
So wait how are you getting 8 stats?
it's been that way for me since i installed the app
like 2 weeks ago
i think i was on 0.1.7?
just killing time waiting to cashout out on Idle so I can go get my 145 sats on Empire and check for updates on all my games.
Tf I would smoke sats then if I was you
well like i said... it's boring when you spend 10-15 min earning all that. then an hour waiting for the withdraw number to go up
I think I’m at 145 cap
yeah that's my cap too
i mean i could... or i could play other games in the meantime
yeah no sense stacking them up to much if you have to wait for the cashout amount to build up to a low amount. If it was like the other games I'd stack 5 or 6k up for daily cashouts but not this system maybe once they give us the buff I will build up a bank.
like i know some other games that have 500 sats/day limits that i can get that in like 20 min or less
and idm banking a day ahead on those
yeah big agree. i'd like have a specific day for each game a week if they all worked like that. but bitcoin miner and idle mine both reward daily efforts. empire is the only one that sorta turns me off. hell i like the blocks of bitcoin game more than empire rn
@indigo frigate what happened to VIP chat?
i don't see it no more
They changed it to those in Fumbtastic and above. You will get it back when you reach that level.
okie! what level is that so i can grind by rambling about these games?
10
okie i just hit 9 so shouldn't be too hard... now if i remember these bots... the cooldown is 1-2 minutes before a post gets me exp
812 more xp and you will be there
yeah not bad at all
look for upgrades they are not being auto updated.
no that is the newest one out right now.
The earnings buff is only for new players at the moment
look in the app store it will say if there is an update for you or not
There is no update button only uninstall or play
then no update is available for you
the uninstall would say update if there was one.
or at least it doesn in mine when on is ready.
this was the only Fumb game I didn't get an update for today.
What are the others? Anything noticable
got the piggy Diggy back on Mine but nothing new on Blocks and Idle.
I'm not familiar with piggy diggy lol
it is the midweek event in miner
or what many of us call it anyways.
Who started it?
I don't know someone was trying to push for wongull to make it the official name. LOL you know it was you.
I thought it might be Brain
I thought it was belgan lol
lol
or brainless?
Pass the buck
group effort
I said Brainless not clueless.
We could start calling you Tim nice but dim
It’s a comedy sketch show character in UK
Tim the toolman Taylor, Tim Allen from toy story was a show on tv here for years.
I know. Seen it
Hi I have 15,000 satoshis and I don’t know what to do. It keeps accumulating, and I can only withdraw 147 per day. That’s not normal.
That is normal the amount you can cashout isn't working like it is supposed to right now it is in a newer version that only new players are getting right now for testing.
I can only do 20 a day. Just installed yesterday.
the more ads you watch and the longer you play the more you can cashout.
Invalid connection is normal?
you would be the first to say anything about that here for this game.
try !swap and if those don't work try restarting your device and modem.
Please try closing the game, changing from wifi to mobile data (or vice versa), and then reopening the game again. If that doesn't work repeat the steps but with airplane mode instead of swapping the connection.
All the other fumb games work fine. Just figured it was normal for this game 😐
every game is on a different server so one having issues wouldn't happen on them all at once.
Still has the invalid
show me a screeshot please
that is a zbd error not from the game.
Their support is .... Uhh.. slow.
Sometimes it fixes itself other times wait a week to get support. It's exciting
that is why we tell people to change connetions to see if one works
Yea neither did. Off to the sad line of waiting for them.
Thanks for help.
keep trying different connections sooner or later one will work.
If you use airplane mode and swap connections multiple times it should eventually kill the bad connection.
I'm pretty sure it's been that way since install. Figured was normal since new game.. so it's not normal and that's bad.
I'll keep playing with the connection see what happens.
it's normal for zbd, it's not related to the game.
I usually don't have issues with fumb games. Zbd however... So I'm happy with fumb ☺️
Yea those people are weird asf lmao
my account is older than that
Yea and somehow they know what youre saying too
like 5 years plus older
they have another profile in the server
I also didn't post the first sentance on that post.
and I don't dm
well I do but only a select few people.
I know
@rapid wadi think you can track the fake down?
I knew it wasnt you, I checked the date the account was made
yeah you had talked to me before that date several times.
Yessir
I think i banned that not long ago. Its on my clipboard and I clear that regularly
I know one person that would have any type reason to copycat my profile
don't think they would be smart enough to do it.
So whats everyone methods for building up your game here
What i mean are ppl usei g the the no add scriptions and just earning it back via app or you keeping ads and build the room up or focusing on managers
get a 12x multiplier from the shop, upgrade auto tapper and giftbox to the maxe then work on the crit rate tap and amoount iuntil maxed then add to the income multiplier.
I don't know of anyone that has gotten the no ads because it is a subscription.
I bout 3 packs of 650 gems when I started to get the 12x multiplier auto tapper and those i had left after that wen to maxing out the gift box
I spent $12
I've already made that back.
Like I am tempted it do the the 1st one and just let her run with the auto tapper going to see if you can you can earning back the money quickly
I did the math on it you'd need to make 11.5k in stats to earn it back in a week
once the get everyone on the new cashout system it should be easy to do.
You can not make it back in a week or even a month
I started in January and I've collected just over 16,000 sats
Once we get the new cashout metod(buff) in place they think we can cashout between 700 and 800 sats per day is the estimate.
Ya so that would hinder the pain lol
Wow, check out @frail tundra leveling up! Congratulations @frail tundra, you are now Level 4!
maybe 2 hours a day but I don't tap. I let it run and close the forced ads and only watch ads for the giftboxes with gems. I will do the taks for room upgrades and managers to keep the game running. I let it run on those only if I'm waiting for the cashout amount to increase beuond the number of sat I have.
No matter what you do you will not make back the amount you pay for the weekly no ads subscription.
I don't watch ads for the offline income or speed boost at all.
I don't need to watch them because I have a 37x multiplier and the offline income isn't enough to help me.
Fair enough I still going this one I have the mine game as well really far 2ed to last mine able to go into so what earns me about 25 ever 4 hours (hate that added a 4 hour reset timer) and I am doing this one now
I got miner and Idle, I get all 60 rows open on miner each reset.
Oh 200 more sats from linking my freecash in earn hub, I forgot I was waiting for the timer to finish. that will make it even easier to hit the limit today, wonder how high it will go since I didn't play and cashout yesterday.
I hit the withdrawal limitations after the latest update, now accumulated about 1100 sats since and it allowed me to withdraw a max of 150.
What version are you on Dave?
I’m on v 0.1.9 on iOS, I pushed it to 150 today after seeing your comments about 146 just to see it the limit stopped for me. I’ve withdrawn now so I’ll try again tomorrow.
Wow, check out @buoyant willow leveling up! Congratulations @buoyant willow, you are now Level 8!
yeah we all want 0.2.0 for the new payout buff.
700 or 800 sats would be good👍 I’ve withdrawn 8500 and now have 1150 waiting.
I've cashed out 16,271 and have 225 waiting
I hope since I didn't play and cashout yesterday that I can get all 225+ today.
limit just hit 145 so I shall know soon.
just added another 12x to the income boost I can go back to working on the crit taps now.
yep not going to give me anymore than the 145
I literally get a forced ad every 2 minutes, Is it an android thing
I’m on iOS and not getting them that frequently. I do play ads for gems and also quite a few for x2 income whilst tapping so I think that may delay or reset the forced ones.
It does but then the next ad will still be 2 minutes after the gem ad
well the game is based on adds, which is how you can win free sats....
Wow, check out @wind mason leveling up! Congratulations @wind mason, you are now Level 5!
I use droids too and it isn't every 2 minutes for me.
wrong the ads only increase the amount you can withdraw you earn them from doing task.
im talking about fumb games economy
they make money with tha adds, and we gets free sats (by playing the game off course), so having to watch adds seems pretty fair to me
We don't get them for free. The don't just give them to us, we earn them by playing the game and watching the requierd ads. The post was about the frequency of the ads, it wasn't a complaint about having to watch them, or we have to watch them. We know they are a part of Fumb revenue stream but they are not the only way Fumb makes money eaither.
I am getting one every minute usually.
Howdy gang 
good evening
All those that think Business Empire is the Bees Knees, say, "WOOT!"
what ya mean bees knees are not that good a thing.
You know what I mean. 🤣
It's better than sliced bread
That actually makes the game unplayable
Morning All! Have another good day playing!
Morning
Each quest is 5 or 8 sats for me
That is part of the new version for testing only for new players at this time.
@indigo frigate from your feeling with the "old" version does it took longer to reach the daily sat cap?
takes me about an hour and a half most days as long as I'm able to pay attention to the game as it runs.
ah okay, maybe just related to that "more active" as before
More active equals more task done and more ads watched faster so yeah that is a big part of it.
okay as solvings tasks seems to "trigger" the ads faster
I still only watch forced ads and those for gems. The 49x multiplier on my income helps the tapper do task faster too.
i had used some days only the forced ads as i have a sat buffer and related to that it feels slower
as i did not finish many tasks in the days
I just do the room upgrades and manager upgrades to build my sats for the day as I start most days at near 0.
I let it set on one of those to build up the limit when it says I can cash out all I have I wil do the task until I can't and then wait again for a bit.
i had 3,2k sats on hold that is why i slowed down with the tasks "a little" 🙂
👑
Has there been any luck with figuring out why Sats are broken? I had tickets open and support said the developers couldn’t figure it out, but that they added more logging.
🤷♂️ haven't noticed anything being broken to be honest
When I tap on my sat icon, nothing happens so I’m unable to set up a connection to ZBD. Also, when I earn sats by completing goals, the total stays 0.
post a screen shot please.
You can see the animation in the first screen shot showing I completed a goal. The second shows the sat total staying zero. When I tap the sats in the upper right, nothing happens at all. No pop-up, no error, no screen, etc.
how long have you been playing?
Oh my… I think it was mid last year?
This game just came out in January
Then it had to have been January (this year seems like it’s lasted forever).
and that is the new version or you wouldn't be getting 5 sats for a task.
I found it, 2/22/26 is when I first started, when it was still called Bitcoin Empire
Wow, check out @keen veldt leveling up! Congratulations @keen veldt, you are now Level 3!
My sats have been broken for well over a month, even before the rebranding and increase in sats.
check the version in your settings.
iOS I'm on droid with the same version you shouln't have the 5 sat task. have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling?
Yes; multiple times, including again this morning. I even went to settings and deleted all app data.
restarted the device between uninstalling and reinstalling?
it's like it is stuck in tutorial but not in the tutorial.
It’s worth a shot, one sec.
No go; same behavior.
Interesting you say that, because when I reinstall, it has me accept terms, allow tracking, etc. and then when it asks for my age, it says “syncing data” and then jumps right into the game.
it's syncing to your saved account.
I don't rememeber ever being asked anything about my age.
but I haven't uninstalled and reinstalled anything since early January.
that is normal on first game start
it is the regular onboard process but then it recognized your "old" gamestate and loads it
Well all I can guess and say is hope when they give us 2.0 it fixes it fou you. I have no clue on this one.
Everything else works and I still have all of my purchased items, I just can’t earn sats or access anything in the Sats area.
I asked if they could delete my profile so I can create a new one and then manually assign my purchases, but they said they couldn’t.
strange things happen and this is the oddest I've seen.
We are all waiting for the new version to get to ust to get the new earnings buff and see what it turns out like.
Only for new players
some have that in test areas but what I'm referring to is the cashout amounts are supposed to go up. We are only getting a limit of 145-150 and it stops going up it is supposed to go to between 700 and 800 on that in the new setup.
Ahhh got it. When I was able to play, there was no limit to withdraws.
I got 1500 on my first cahout and since then it's been slowly going down to the 145 now.
I was cashing out 500/day for a few weeks (I spent a lot of time on the app).
I've not gotten over 280 in months for a cashout and that was because I played but didn't cashout for 3 days.
Did you ever get a message about low earnings mode at some point? I got one mid March I think? It was shortly after that when sats stopped working entirely.
No never got that myself but I know many have.
i had it yes then get in touch with fumb via help desk and it got sorted out
I did the same. They said they needed to reach out to ZBD, but then I didn’t hear back and the ticket closed, so I re-opened it. I also opened a ticket with ZBD.
ZBD said they made changes to fix it on their end, but Fumb said their developers were stumped.
normally zbd has no clue if you ever hear back from them at al.
Hah yeah… I deal with vendor support for a living, so I provide every fact and screen shot possible with the submission. They take forever to respond, but when they finally do, they’ve fortunately found and fixed whatever it was.
Have You used autoclick or a virtual Machine like BlueStacks?
Wow, check out @fickle orbit leveling up! Congratulations @fickle orbit, you are now Level 2!
Those will both cause a ban
Yeah, that's why I ask, because he found a "bug" that satoshi's mission doesnt count
Mayb he used autoclick
I had the same problem when I used to play another fumb Game haha lets be honest
Then I found autoclick was illegal
There is an auto clicker in the game but externals are not allowed.
😭
Yeah, I know, that's why I'm asking him if he did use
Or virtual machine
He has already talked with the devs if that was the reason he wouldn't be here asking questions about it.
Well i didnt read all the conversation, that's why i ask about it.
Cowboy is one of the senior players on this game and is familiar with all current bugs for it
Well I am now this one is new so I didn't know about it until this conversation earlier.
Whenever I see you helping out, I skedaddle cause I know they are in good hands
I still haven’t created space on my phone for this one yet
We tried all the normal tricks and a few the dev didn't think to try and still couldn't get any good results, so best that can be done is hope the next version fixes it.
at least for now.
Help guys! When i connect to the game, my sats are at 0 (im suppose to have more than 500 sats)
I cant click on them to see how much i can withdraw, and when i complete a mission the ammount of sats stay at 0
Off course i closed and reopened the game many times
Me too. Just came here to see if anyone else's sats disappeared
Me too. Completing tasks gives 0 sats too
I just opened mine up to get my sats for the day and I got the same issue
Everyone put in a ticket with the #🔍help-desk
@remote fractal everyone is reporting that when loging in today that sats are gone and when you do a task you don't get the sat or at least they are not showing up in the counter. I've told them to put a ticket in with the help desk I think everyone is on version 0.1.9
I uninstalled and install the game, reset my phone, and whatever. Same thing
put in a ticket like I told everyone to do I have tagged wongull so the devs will know as soon as he checks his notifications.
I can get gems from ads for gift boxes but it wont pull up the cashout screen or anything else to do with sats. Everyone having the same issue with sats should put in a ticket with the #🔍help-desk until we are told otherwise. You only need to do one ticket so the devs know exactly how many people are affected and can find the problem and fix it faster. I'm on a android and I know some on iOS have the same issue so it's not just one OS or the other.
Same issue here. Sats are on 0. I was on older version, so I tried updating to no avail.
ok so it's not just 0.1.9 then as well
that is good to know not good news but needed information.
@rapid wadi can you get a message to wongull on the issue with Empire?
Ill pop it in the chat
I tagged him a minute ago on a post about it.
I saw. Its the same for me. Could be server side issue to be honest
one already heard bck on their ticket for the same issue the other day and the dev couldn't find anything now it is wide spread.
so very possible
they need to unplug it and plug it back in.
At least it's on Empire and not Idle or Miner where we would get over run with people reporting on it.
Sometimes its fun just to turn servers off and...wait
Fun for who though
Me when im trying to decommision a service and want to find the hidden users who still use old junk but don't want to speak to me 🤣
Same.
!ticket 👇
Please go to #🔍help-desk, and choose what you need help with from the drop down menu.🙌
0 sathosis !
It is happening to everyone put a ticket in with the help desk.
Everyone having the issue with sats should put in a ticket with the #🔍help-desk until we are told otherwise. You only need to do one ticket so the devs know exactly how many people are affected and can find the problem and fix it faster. I'm on a android and I know some on iOS have the same issue so it's not just one OS or the other. You do NOT need to post or ask about it here just put in a ticket.
@keen gate
The bot will not answer you and your brand new account.
Ticket done, lets hope it will be fixed soon...
looks like a scammer to me.
I am sorry this is all new just figure it out
I'd think tomorrow since it is Sunday and they are off for the weekend
What do you want to know? People always willing to help out in here
You tag people and bots because you don't know?
Everyone having the issue with sats should put in a ticket with the #🔍help-desk until we are told otherwise. You only need to do one ticket so the devs know exactly how many people are affected and can find the problem and fix it faster. I'm on a android and I know some on iOS have the same issue so it's not just one OS or the other. You do NOT need to post or ask about it here just put in a ticket.
So... about a week ago my streak just vanished... I was at 79 days! It hasn't returned 😕 Then, after selling my gpu's, I've been developing each level. Yesterday, I built up the 1st, 2nd, 3rd zones significantly, stopped with approximately 130 "O" and over 1000 nodes. Today all the progress is gone! 🤔
THIS ALL STARTED HAPPENING AFTER MY ZBD ACCOUNT STOPPED WORKING
Wrong game you need to be in #🌕bitcoin-miner there are a couple of pinned post in that chat section in the pinned messages that will tell you the streak is now in testing and more on that.
👌
hey all! I've already sent a message to the devs about this, sorry about the issue! We'll have to wait until they're in so they can look into fixing it
run to the server and unplug it and plug it back in Rin. LOL
Ok thought my game was glitching lol that’s good
everyones is.
Sats nit countin and button not working…only for me or?
Can you verify you have the lates tupdate in the store.
its everyone they are aware
0.1.9?
Ohhh..sats are down for the game right now? I havent been around the last few days
Yes Rin posted on it earlier.
Gotcha. Thanks
Thanks as well
Everyone having the issue with sats issue in the game. The devs are aware and will work on getting it fixed as soon as the get in for their normal Monday hours. At this time there is no need to put in a ticket. We will let you know if that changes and each account has to be fixed individually instead of a mass fix.
Nuuu all my sats are gone... Oh is an issue. To the ticket system!
You don't need to do a ticket. They know about it and it is a top priority when they start work in the UK.
Sats are back already
Theya re in the office so I should be told soon if they got it fixed for everyone or not
anyone on aniOS device able to confirm if they have sats back yet?
Sats back and working perfectly to withdraw to zbd. Thank you 😉
Hello, I have the impression that we can withdraw 2 sats per minute of play, even though we win much more. Does this amount change over time?
i think that this is just an impression. as normally the 2 sats "gain" per ad you viewed not by simple "game time"
i have the same impression
So i need to watch 100 ads to withdraw 200 sats per day like idle bitcoin.....what a hard thing
Don't think of it like that. It really depends how far along you are and how quickly you can complete the missions.
Its always slow at first
I can easily clear 20 missions between ads, depending on what one's pop up
Wait…u get sats for watchin ads?
20 missions between 2 ads? Dafuq? I barely make 1 mission per ad
Not for ads, no
Don't forget i have the coin hard cap at the moment and can unlock anything instantly with the exception of the tap for coin mission
Whats a coin hard cap?
Back and working on iOS.
Still trying to figure out the whole limit per day how to. The above conversation didn't really help.
I'm sitting on 3K and could only withdraw 80
1.80e+308 is as much as you can get at the moment...which to be honest is more than you'd ever need.
They put it in because you could get to infinity then NaN and brick your game
It varies depending on how long you've been playing i think. Its a ZBD system
308 = investors max?
Level 4700 Reginald is max for investors. Tops out at the same number for value
You're not prestiging enough I guess. I'm only playing a couple weeks and all my managers are atm at 75 or higher
Its how many coins you have in the top left
I reinvested to 135 and my managers top out at 25 before i start over new. Am i doin something wrong?
Top center even
No, just keep going
How long u play this already? 2 years?🙈😂
can be done in a short time if you force it but makes no sense ^
Yeah if u pay a lot weekly…honestl i dont thi k u can earn so much back in months than u pay for a week adfree
Well how?
prestige and high manager level
So always prestige as soon as possible or…
we did it just for testing what is possible
but i would suggest only to prestige when you cant upgrade the room anymore
and do straight the tasks
Wait there is a maximum of room upgrades? Good to know
Thats very helpful thx!
After that u must do tasks in seconds with the amount of income, right?😂
nope as the tasks from tapping are fixed and can be only increased with the income multi from the gems and with upgrading crit tap chance
and with the permanent upgrades
that is the only thing where you can reduce the "time of tapping"
So basically there will always be 1 ad if i get a „money from tapping“ quest until its finished?
you do the tasks to "create" your balance
but with playtime and ads you get the withdraw amount of your sats increased
so just login and withdraw isnt possible
for sure
I have spent exactly £0 on this game and got here twice.
to get it that fast you "need" only x12 income and auto tap
but that can be all done with regular playing
Dont even need one x12
x12 makes it absurd fast yes 😄
but the annoying part is then to get the manager to 4,7k
earn by Tap 95,3LL is also not nice
100 makes it light speed 🤣
Tapping to LL sucks, wont lie lol
Its a shame though because my managers say they give infinity...but it doesnt insta complete 😔
did you have it on 100 or what? :p
^^
I could break it with 0
it is not rly broke it is just "finished" 😄
So basically autotap is the important part…and if there comes a task sayin tap income just press the prestige button so a different task comes up yes?
prestige only when you cant upgrade anymore like no more room upgrades etc
Why this?
Yeah but why? Bc the tasks are easier as long as the things are small i guess?
you can't solve any additional tasks
do room upgrades and manager upgrades only when needed
but there is a max of room upgrades
Stop there = no more sats until you reset.
Its always the room upgrade one that forces a reset
with that state i have i can't earn any new sats as there no new tasks for me
so reset and rinse repeat
10,55JJ on prestige and 3,03KK% earnings increase
I think +10.55JJ is the max you can prestige by
yep i got that every time
About 3 seconds after resetting lol
most time it takes is to upgrade the managers
or "that manager" better said
we need an auto upgrade button there..
Glad to see everyone seems to have the game back to working like it should and gaining sats again.
@raven marsh So you have 3k+ sats and you cant withdraw it ? 🙁
currently yes, we will see how it changes.
how many sats per day (and how many time) ?
there is no true limit at this time as you play and watch ads the limit goes up. right now older accounts stall out between 145 and 150 most of the time. New players with the new version will get a much higer limit. We are waiting to hear what version that will be and when older accounts will start getting the same version.
today my limit was 190 sats (playing from france)
maybe because of the crash yesterday but who knows at this point i've not done more than open it to see if sats were back and building today. I will play later today once I have Idle done and do my 2nd sell and rebuild on miner, as per my normal routine.
So does this mean my 314 error is gonna disappear and I can count on being able to withdraw soon by chance? Tysm.
that error will never go away if you don't put in a ticket with the #🔍help-desk for it only the Devs can clear it for you.
for me it was again 145 today
I think you and I are cursed by @remote fractal for this game.
Thx cowboy
No, just purchased the normal auto click, otherwise just using good ole finger taps.
Still no go for me. This is the exact behavior I’ve had for almost two months.
You just have to be dificult don't you. Lol I really don't know what to say is your ticket for it still open or did the dev's close it from before?
What can I say? I have a magnetic personality. Technology loves me, which is why my company always has me test new stuff. If it can be broken, it will break simply for the fact that I used lol
The new ticket 3144 is still open and I let them know the fixes didn’t work for me. thumb twiddle
@remote fractal we have the main suspect for the issue, lol can you check and see if there is an update on Lil Boozy for this issue?
If anyone can get info for you it is the man wongull.
I suspect the app got a response it wasn’t expecting from ZBD somewhere along the way. I couldn’t unlink the wallet from within the app, so I disconnected it from within ZBD, but I’ll bet it’s still trying to connect to ZBD and falling into the abyss. I’m wondering if it’ll fall back in line if an admin clears out my wallet connection from the back end?
Depends where its dropping. If its ZBD side...good luck with their support. Can you not kill it from the ZBD app?
No. When I tap the sat icon in the upper corner, absolutely nothing happens. It’s completely unresponsive.
Not in the game. I mean from the ZBD app where you can manage connections
Oh, sorry; I did that already. No change within Business Empire.
Cleared app data on your phone? That usually kills connections
Just make sure you screenshot your game screen, upgrades and investors first as it kills everything
Yep, I did it from within iOS settings so that it cleared all saved data along with deleting the app. I also did a hard and soft reset of the phone before re-downloading. When I did re-download, it synced everything from the saved profile and right back to where I was with sats not working.
Definitely got screen shots of all my purchases because I was hoping the devs can just wipe and rebuild my profile.
Hopefully they can
btw any idea why the inifity switches to my regular phone language and is mentioned just as "unendlich"
🤷♂️
maybe the game wants to tell me "stop finished" 😄
More!
I'm still getting them but it seems like a bit less than normal but not much less.
Has anyone noticed gift boxes disappear after selling investors? First two times just as I tapped to sell a box would fall down and then vanish forever (until app restart). So this time I made sure there was no box on the screen, but same thing happened. Once I sold the boxes no longer fall down.
Well I just hit 145 sats so lets see if it caps out on me or not.
you mean it dropped and you went to sell and it was gone? That is normal as it resets the room. same thing happens in miner if you hit sell and a floating sat or gift box was there they go away until the next programmed release.
151 sats and not staled out on me yet.
I get that, only after I sell there are no boxes, period. It started happening mid-week. It was working fine before: I would sell and continue getting boxes as usual. Not anymore.
have you tried all the normal swap and restart things clear the cache or offloaded the app data?
No, don't want to mess with that unless absolutely necessary. App restart fixes boxes, just inconvenient.
swap and device restart do that without issue
As a matter of fact I have restarted a couple of times last night trying to fix 0 sats issue.