#Looking for some final feedback before ordering parts

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distant cloud
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You don't need high-end Samsung SSDs like that, if you wanna save a few bucks there

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And that PSU is suspiciously expensive

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I feel it's like twice the price it should be

dusty elbow
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yup

distant cloud
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Yeah that's coming from a sus reseller on Amazon, I would look elsewhere

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Oh weird I didn't realize PCPP changes it up like that

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My thoughts are

  • Get cheaper nvme SSDs, you don't need gen4
  • Use that extra moneys to get a 32GB kit, it'll help a lot with your workload
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WD Elements, Crucial, Corsair all make great SSDs as well

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Gen3 nvme is perfectly fine

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Samsung SSDs are usually overpriced and over-specced for most people's needs

digital oxide
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linus and other people tested nvmes, they effectively make ZERO difference in games

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the slowest nvmes are either too fast for any current system or the games just dont utilize the extra speeds

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its only useful for moving files

mighty bronze
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so are you only buying ram, storage, case, psu?

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go for 32GB RAM

distant cloud
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Yeah as Crunche said, that's entirely marketing. Most games would work perfectly on old SATA SSDs with a decent cache on them.

distant cloud
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4 sticks is dual channel and your motherboard very much supports it

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You just have two sticks on each channel instead of one

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I'm gonna guess that you're misreading something in the manual, which is totally fine - those things are written in a very confusing way

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I've read using RAM and enabling XMP for 3200 that is not on the QVL can cause stability issues.
QVL doesn't mean a whole lot, as the stability varies on each specific CPU and motherboard. But generally it's totally fine to go off QVL, especially with later AM4 generations (the problem was WAY worse in the Ryzen 1000-2000 era)

mighty bronze
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yeah ignore qvl

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they obviously cant test thousands of comfigs

distant cloud
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So first and foremost, no decisions you're making here will reduce the lifespan of your components

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Yes, technically speaking, you will get slightly better performance by having a single stick-per-channel. BUT the important thing to note is that performance difference is usually extremely tiny and imperceptible in nearly all normal tasks.
Folks like to get really pedantic about perfectly optimizing every nanosecond of data travel.

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Very important to note that "Dual channel" does not mean "Dual RAM sticks"

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It just means there are two distinct paths connecting your CPU and RAM.
Having two sticks in each of those paths is very common.

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Sometimes, in some systems, in rare cases, having four sticks of bad-quality RAM may be unstable when trying to boost them with XMP.

  1. This does not cause permanent damage, only headaches from the PC not booting
  2. This can be avoided by either a) Buying good-quality ram, or b) Tuning down the XMP profile very slightly

I have four sticks in my AM4 system, and they're awful quality mismatched Vengeance sticks. They work perfectly fine with a slight reduction in the default XMP speed

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Most of what you screenshotted is entirely irrelevant to your goals here - It's mostly talking about misconfigured/mismatched RAM, which is not what you're doing

distant cloud
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Quad-channel is generally a server/datacenter feature, meaning that there's (usually) 8 RAM slots with 2 slots per channel. Without extra context I'm assuming they're saying it can be used for both
Do not worry about QVL, do not worry about dual-channel, it's only gonna add unnecessary stress here

mighty bronze
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You're being too paranoid

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literally disregard QVL

distant cloud
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To reiterate, none of these choices will damage or affect the lifespan of your computer

mighty bronze
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like i said, they don't have time to test hundreds of different kits in hundreds of different configs

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its an unreasonable worry, just buy the cheapest 2x16 kit

distant cloud
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just buy the cheapest 2x16 kit
They said 4x8 are much cheaper

mighty bronze
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it isnt

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more likely to run into instability with 4x8 anyways

distant cloud
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Ah yep nice, I just took their word for it

distant cloud
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Disregard QVL