#folding-and-boinc | Linus Tech Tips | Page 84

topaz flame Sep 6, 2020, 9:44 PM

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CPU seems to be busy?

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ruby pond Sep 6, 2020, 11:18 PM

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just a bit

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@topaz flame

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some light work

hushed bobcat Sep 7, 2020, 12:58 AM

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I'd see if your PPD goes up if you pause the CPU

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For your v100's I'd say you need 2-3 CPU threads each

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Also according to smi each card is only pulling 200W out of 400

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By default f@h only gives 1 thread

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I feel this may be hampering your cards

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If it were me I would even go as far as to assign each CPU slot a CCX die on the epyc.
And leave 1 CCX "empty" just to feed the GPU's

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@topaz flame was that paused for a long time? Because in the picture you sent your CPU PPD is awful.
I have a i7-4790k with 5 threads that puts out that kind of PPD

topaz flame Sep 7, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Reduced the cores to 200 for the 256 available leaving more than enough for the 8 cards

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will watch

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started getting errors because of no jobs that size, reduced it to 16 cores and will slot it up later 😕 (now that I know whta the config looks like)

hushed bobcat Sep 7, 2020, 2:13 AM

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32 seems to be the practical max for thread count

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16 would probably get more jobs

stark bough Sep 7, 2020, 4:13 AM

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If it were me I would even go as far as to assign each CPU slot a CCX die on the epyc.
And leave 1 CCX "empty" just to feed the GPU's
@hushed bobcat
Hard mode:
Manage thermals and assign 90% utilization on every other core so there’s a less used core in between.

hushed bobcat Sep 7, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Since he's in a rack I don't think thermals are a problem 😋

topaz flame Sep 7, 2020, 8:08 AM

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made a post on F@H Support forums just to make sure its not a software issue 😛

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We got a few CPU in the mix now

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hushed bobcat Sep 7, 2020, 8:36 AM

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sweet, im quite curious if that makes a difference in your PPD

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does SMI show more power usage?

bronze minnow Sep 7, 2020, 7:02 PM

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Can I change my FAH name?

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And will my wu-s move over?

rich depot Sep 7, 2020, 10:03 PM

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@bronze minnow nope

topaz flame Sep 8, 2020, 2:50 AM

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Official answer from F@H peeps https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=36079&sid=81ac5215c02ad04cffb09c2f00a375d0

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They are going to make some adjustments to get things squared away 🙂

lapis gulch Sep 8, 2020, 3:53 AM

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damn

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get some ppd numbers for the a100 doe

topaz flame Sep 8, 2020, 4:06 PM

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I would say its chugging

hushed bobcat Sep 8, 2020, 7:00 PM

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well damn

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4 Billion points per day

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that's double the production of the entire LTT Team

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60k WU per day

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i'm doing good if I do 60

outer monolith Sep 9, 2020, 12:15 AM

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me confused what im looking at can i get some details ?

hushed bobcat Sep 9, 2020, 12:22 AM

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We get points for completing Work Units while folding

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Generally we express power in how many points we can accrue in one day

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PPD = Points Per Day

nocturne wadi Sep 9, 2020, 1:46 AM

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@spice badger yp

spice badger Sep 9, 2020, 1:46 AM

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no u

topaz flame Sep 9, 2020, 3:04 AM

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Yeaaa sooo worked with the F@H guys

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single cards PPD guess 😛

hushed bobcat Sep 9, 2020, 6:00 AM

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1 card is 8 mil ppd? i find that hard to believe

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thats more than double a V100

topaz flame Sep 9, 2020, 6:05 AM

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ill check in a bit

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im using a new fah_core22 bin

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and using a given project id

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specifically to benchmark them

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Developer of fah is interested in the new hardware 😉

topaz flame Sep 9, 2020, 6:39 AM

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it maintains this guess

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(redacted IP lol)

hushed bobcat Sep 9, 2020, 7:03 AM

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maybe because its a bench WU?

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if thats the final number they did some serious optimizing somewhere lol

vital radish Sep 9, 2020, 8:21 AM

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https://stats.foldingathome.org/team/223518

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What kind of setup is kicking out 335,918 WU?!?!?!? DAMN!

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The 4th's ranked anonymous.

tired crow Sep 9, 2020, 11:54 AM

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@vital radish all the poeple that signup for LTT team but did not setup a folding name for themself.

rich turtle Sep 9, 2020, 3:24 PM

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blobsweat

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tired crow Sep 9, 2020, 3:58 PM

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@rich turtle those numbers don't make any sense ! 693W is like only like what 4 or 5 GPU's !!

cursive dew Sep 9, 2020, 3:58 PM

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whoa

tired crow Sep 9, 2020, 3:58 PM

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My 4 GPU run at around 550W

rich turtle Sep 9, 2020, 4:05 PM

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👀

stuck escarp Sep 9, 2020, 4:21 PM

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A 2070 super and 1070 pushed 650 watts

topaz flame Sep 9, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Im pulling around 1450w~

tired crow Sep 9, 2020, 5:50 PM

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A 2070 super and 1070 pushed 650 watts
@stuck escarp something not right there. 2070 super should be 215W and a 1070 should be 150W.

stuck escarp Sep 9, 2020, 5:52 PM

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I mean all 3 of my machines on idle is 250

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And the ryzen is going hard

topaz flame Sep 9, 2020, 7:13 PM

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id say the new stuff is chugging pretty good 😛

hushed bobcat Sep 9, 2020, 8:29 PM

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my 1080 Ti, P106-90, and 8700k rig pulls about 450W

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but the 1080 Ti and 8700k are power limited to reduce heat/noise

tired crow Sep 9, 2020, 10:19 PM

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I've got 2x 2060 and 2x 2060 super all set to 80% power limit. The 2060 draw an average 135W and the supers 140W and I can't see any real difference in PPD than running them at full power.

hushed bobcat Sep 9, 2020, 10:34 PM

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yea same here

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i ran my 1080 Ti at 120% at first

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i think it was pulling 250-275W

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went down to 75%

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now its pulling 180-200W

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PPD is maybe 100k less

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its hard to tell because different WU's have different PPD

tired crow Sep 9, 2020, 10:39 PM

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If the PPD is less it's not enough to worry about. The cards run a little cooler and and my power bill is a little lower so it's all good.

hushed bobcat Sep 9, 2020, 10:56 PM

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i agree completely

tired crow Sep 10, 2020, 5:49 AM

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Hey everybody don't forget LTT Folding Month 2020 Event Starts October, 12th with lots of prizes to be won don't forget to signup.

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https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1b3C_vMnxgzF1_3aSoY1fQXHIE-usPuxU72f4RlzaCWk/viewform?edit_requested=true

Google Docs

LTT Folding month 2020

topaz flame Sep 10, 2020, 7:12 AM

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@hushed bobcat

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not to shabby for 1 day 😛

hushed bobcat Sep 10, 2020, 7:59 AM

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I can do that

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In 2 weeks....

wooden sapphire Sep 10, 2020, 12:04 PM

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Hello, im just starting out Folding@Home with my laptop, i have a question about the cpu speed
Why does the cpu speed clocks down when its at 50% utilization? Is that something i must worry about?

hushed bobcat Sep 10, 2020, 12:46 PM

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It could be throttling due to temperature

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Very few laptops can handle a sustained heavy load

wooden sapphire Sep 10, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Thonk

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Imma monitor my laptop for a few days and see how it goes

rich turtle Sep 11, 2020, 10:08 AM

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@tired crow Looks like they didn't quite get it fixed. Woke up to less point than I should have again.

tired crow Sep 11, 2020, 10:09 AM

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@rich turtle I'm sure they will turn up sooner or later again

rich turtle Sep 11, 2020, 10:10 AM

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Oh yeah, for sure. It's nothing new, just happened right at a point where I deployed new hardware for it sucks from a gathering data standpoint.

tired crow Sep 11, 2020, 10:11 AM

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Things always go wrong when you least want them. That's a hard and fast rule.

rich turtle Sep 11, 2020, 10:12 AM

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Indeed. Like every year when folding month starts and the Standford stats server decides to go on vacation lol.

tired crow Sep 11, 2020, 10:13 AM

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Feel sorry for me I'm one of the people that will have to check the scores every night.

rich turtle Sep 11, 2020, 10:14 AM

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An unenviable task. You are appreciated for it though! (at least over here lol)

tired crow Sep 11, 2020, 10:23 AM

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You know I wonder about people at times. There have been 142 people signup and about 15 people have managed to messup filling in 2 names.

rich turtle Sep 11, 2020, 11:56 AM

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Bwahaha. This is why spec signs me up.
I can't spell my name. 😎

rich depot Sep 11, 2020, 11:04 PM

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@tired crow Thats only ten percent... people are improving

tired crow Sep 11, 2020, 11:05 PM

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lol

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I still like the one that filled in @GOTspectrum for his forum name. I'm still not sure that's not you trying to enter twice

outer portal Sep 12, 2020, 7:42 AM

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Is this good for a PNY 2070 Super Mini? Reduced the power draw by 30W and the voltage from 1.05 to 0.975

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Max frequency as reported by Afterburner is 1965Mhz even tho the manufacturer states 1770 but I believe this is due to GPU Boost 3.0

rich depot Sep 12, 2020, 9:13 AM

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@tired crow We usually end up with about 100 people who just write either 223518 or LTT Folding Month for their name lmfao

tired crow Sep 12, 2020, 9:16 AM

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@rich depot so your saying we're do good at the moment ?

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hey I got a plug in for the event in the WAN show but it was in youtube chat

rich depot Sep 12, 2020, 9:18 AM

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Nice, I'm at work today so couldn't stay up for WAN show

tired crow Sep 12, 2020, 9:19 AM

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I need to get setup so I can send superchat

rare blaze Sep 12, 2020, 1:52 PM

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Hello, im just starting out Folding@Home with my laptop, i have a question about the cpu speed
Why does the cpu speed clocks down when its at 50% utilization? Is that something i must worry about?
@wooden sapphire it might be clocking down if it has a certain boost time

unborn hollow Sep 12, 2020, 2:01 PM

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@rare blaze sounds like your cpu is burning

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given that it's laptop that's more than likely.

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laptops arent usualy best devices to run folding@home

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Does it have removable battery @rare blaze ?

rare blaze Sep 12, 2020, 2:03 PM

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my dud, that isnt even my quote

unborn hollow Sep 12, 2020, 2:03 PM

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derp

rare blaze Sep 12, 2020, 2:03 PM

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its @wooden sapphires

unborn hollow Sep 12, 2020, 2:04 PM

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@wooden sapphire if your laptop has removable battery - take it off while running folding

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the battery will die turbo fast in that kind of use.

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helps with your heat issues too when it won't try to charge the battery constantly.

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and runs on AC power straight up

wooden sapphire Sep 12, 2020, 2:45 PM

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@wooden sapphire it might be clocking down if it has a certain boost time
@rare blaze Min speed is 1.8GHZ

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It clocks down to 1.68GHz

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@wooden sapphire if your laptop has removable battery - take it off while running folding
@unborn hollow It doeant have removable feature, i just uninstalled it yesterday since

proven ruin Sep 12, 2020, 6:10 PM

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i've started folding now
Is an estimated of 17755 points per day on cpu and 477295 points per day on GPU acceptable?

hushed bobcat Sep 12, 2020, 6:21 PM

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IMO as long as you can finish any given WU within a day you're doing well

proven ruin Sep 12, 2020, 6:26 PM

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good good ^_^

tired crow Sep 12, 2020, 9:59 PM

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i've started folding now
Is an estimated of 17755 points per day on cpu and 477295 points per day on GPU acceptable?
@proven ruin It depends on your hardware. For GPUs PPD check - https://folding.lar.systems/folding_data/gpu_ppd_overall

topaz flame Sep 12, 2020, 11:18 PM

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The upcoming releases should have some good improvements for the FAHCore

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Fahcore_22 specifically for CUDA accel

hushed bobcat Sep 13, 2020, 1:27 AM

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I've been noticing that my 1080Ti is hovering around 85% usage

tired crow Sep 13, 2020, 6:12 AM

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@hushed bobcat there are some weird WU's around at the moment, I've been getting some that are in the low 70% usage.

stark bough Sep 13, 2020, 6:35 AM

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Does a 5400 RPM HDD and a 10 mbps connection significantly effectnfolding?

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I got my hands on some other rigs

proven ruin Sep 13, 2020, 6:37 AM

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@proven ruin It depends on your hardware. For GPUs PPD check - https://folding.lar.systems/folding_data/gpu_ppd_overall
@tired crow True! uhmmm i7 7700 and a GTX 1060 6GB that's lost a % of perfomance due overclocking

tired crow Sep 13, 2020, 6:42 AM

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Well to 1060 is doing a bit above average so that's good. I have no idea what a 7700 should be doing.

proven ruin Sep 13, 2020, 6:48 AM

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Eyyy thank you for the info ^~^

rich depot Sep 13, 2020, 3:58 PM

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@stark bough It shouldn't really affect it too much, but you may need to adjust the Next Unit Percentage if you are seeing the slots sitting idle for too long while downloading a new WU

stark bough Sep 15, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Anyone recently try folding on an eGPU?

hushed bobcat Sep 15, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Well if the connection has enough bandwidth I don't see why it would pose a problem

tired crow Sep 15, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Is this channel working ? It keep vanishing from my list.

fickle hinge Sep 15, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Is this channel muted?

tired crow Sep 15, 2020, 9:49 PM

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I'm not sure what is going on but something is screwed up with this channel at the moment

proper fractal Sep 15, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Seems fine to me Thonk

fickle hinge Sep 15, 2020, 10:59 PM

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^

hushed bobcat Sep 15, 2020, 11:58 PM

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ive never noticed an issue

tired crow Sep 16, 2020, 12:54 AM

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The issue I'm having is that it keeps vanishing from the list

dense fjord Sep 16, 2020, 7:30 AM

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go team!!!

tranquil stirrup Sep 16, 2020, 8:48 AM

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is it possible to use 2 diff pcs for same acc simultaneously

verbal peak Sep 16, 2020, 8:48 AM

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I believe so

tranquil stirrup Sep 16, 2020, 8:50 AM

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i am on a 820m and i3 4th gen ande i have another one which which i3 2nd gen

amber shoal Sep 16, 2020, 9:32 AM

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what is this?

hushed bobcat Sep 16, 2020, 10:24 AM

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@tranquil stirrup you can use as many PC's as you want, all you need to do is put the same user info in the client on setup. (Username, Passkey, team Number)

stark bough Sep 16, 2020, 10:42 AM

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just got myself an i3-8100

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wonder how well it will serve as a november spacehater though

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during ryzen gen 2 they were pretty comparible

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Is there a list somewhere of half slot cards or 1 slot that 'might' be useful in folding if sold at a decent used price?

median badge Sep 16, 2020, 1:42 PM

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what is folding?

knotty gull Sep 16, 2020, 2:27 PM

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what is folding?
@median badge the simulation of protein folds

stark bough Sep 16, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Don’t we have an LTT video on the topic yet? Feel like we should link it

wintry anvil Sep 16, 2020, 4:07 PM

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im using a rtx 1050 and the WU has an estimate time of 30 hours
is something wrong

hushed bobcat Sep 16, 2020, 6:29 PM

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@median badge https://youtu.be/KU4qOebhkfs

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@wintry anvil sometimes it takes a while for the estimate to read correct, also the gtx 1050 is a pretty low power card.

wintry anvil Sep 16, 2020, 6:31 PM

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yeah

hushed bobcat Sep 16, 2020, 6:31 PM

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keep in mind that WU's have different difficulties

wintry anvil Sep 16, 2020, 6:31 PM

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it lowerd itself down to 20 not long ago

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im planning on upgrading my gpu tho

hushed bobcat Sep 17, 2020, 3:10 AM

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3070
3080
3090

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2060
2060 S
2070
2070 S
2080
2080 S
2080 Ti
Titan RTX

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3080 is almost triple the Single Precision Floating Point performance vs the 2080

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10 vs 29.8 TFLOPS

stark bough Sep 17, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Well damn

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Now I can have a killer PPD AND feel guilty about not playing more games on my video card

pastel summit Sep 17, 2020, 11:44 AM

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i dont know how to read that

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the numbers are completely diffrent

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one is gflops and one is tflops

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hold on

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okay it makes sense now

hushed bobcat Sep 17, 2020, 12:46 PM

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blame Wikipedia lool

rich depot Sep 17, 2020, 1:06 PM

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I think we are going to see a lot of underutilised cards when folding first rolls out to then, there simply aren't many WUs large enough to use the full compute power. Oh how I wish we were able to run multiple WUs concurrently like BOINC allows

hushed bobcat Sep 17, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Wouldn't it be hard to evenly split up the power?

rich depot Sep 17, 2020, 10:51 PM

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@hushed bobcat boinc projets manage it, and why would you have to do it evenly, you'd get more work done overall

hushed bobcat Sep 17, 2020, 11:29 PM

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I'd be concerned with a big difference

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like 99% on 1 with 1% on the other

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i'm not sure GPU architecture can multi-task properly like a multi-core CPU can

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unless the BIONC projects your talking about are using GPU (the ones i've done are CPU only)

rich depot Sep 18, 2020, 8:08 PM

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@hushed bobcat They are BOINC GPU tasks, I wouldn't be comparing them otherwise

lapis gulch Sep 20, 2020, 9:44 PM

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anyone tried folding at home on 3090 yet?

sacred eagle Sep 20, 2020, 9:55 PM

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I'd say most people that currently have a 3090 are under NDA

hushed bobcat Sep 20, 2020, 11:06 PM

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i want to see the 3080's PPD

humble rover Sep 20, 2020, 11:08 PM

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OCC says 3.5M-4.5M but its still early

lapis gulch Sep 21, 2020, 12:38 AM

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o oops i meant 3080

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3.5 to 4.5m i c

stark bough Sep 22, 2020, 7:41 AM

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I want to see PPD/W

quasi bison Sep 22, 2020, 12:45 PM

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does folding degrade your hardware?

stark bough Sep 22, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Heat and voltage kills hardware

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Bearings wear out

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But it’s mostly the dust

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Keep it clean

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 9:45 AM

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Just wanted to say hello to all you fine folx! I joined the Discord server today, and joined the LTT folding team yesterday, and am sitting at ~1.6M points already. Not too bad for one GPU folding, I guess?

quasi bison Sep 23, 2020, 9:46 AM

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what gpu you got

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 9:47 AM

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ASUS GTX 1080Ti Turbo

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https://stats.foldingathome.org/donor/suggestable

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I wonder if anyone has any advice?
I have a pair of EVGA GTX 980Ti SC+ cards sat in a drawer. Is there any benefit to me trying to underclock/undervolt them so I can use them for folding, too, or are they simply too old/slow to be bothering with?

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(I can't justify 500W additional power draw... the 1080Ti is sucking down quite a bit of juice as it is 😂)

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I'm also not bothering to fold with my current 24/7 CPUs, because for the extra power they'd draw the tiny PPD they'd generate doesn't make sense.

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 10:49 AM

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@dusky maple undervolting/power limiting any GPU will usually get you a better PPD/Watt

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I understand it seeming like a waste to fold on CPU's, but keep in mind some WU still need to be done on a CPU

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so it all helps

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granted I would recommend using a modern CPU set to base clock

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 10:51 AM

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Of course. I stopped folding on my dual Opteron server a while back as it was drawing an additional ~150W when folding and generating a whopping 10K PPD...

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 10:51 AM

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my Ryzen 5 3600 does about 100k PPD and draws around 65-85W

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I know it says CPU: 8 but really its using 10-11 threads

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 10:53 AM

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Indeed. Massive difference there! My own Ryzen 5 3600 isn't going to be folding, though, as general performance of the PC (this one, in fact) suffers too much.

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 10:53 AM

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only folding while idle should work

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 10:54 AM

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Once this CPU gets moved over to my Plex server, it'll be folding. For now, it's a desktop with multiple uses, some of which seem to be unhappy sharing with F@H.

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 10:55 AM

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https://folding.lar.systems/folding_data/gpu_ppd_overall

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looks like a 980 Ti should net you around 800-900k PPD each

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VS 1080 Ti

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it actually makes more sense to sell your 980 Ti's and buy 1 more powerful card thats a little newer

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For example, selling your 980 Ti's and buying a 2060 Super (arguably the best PPD/Watt card currently on the market)

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2060 Super

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dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:06 AM

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Interestingly, that chart appears to be based upon TDP ratings, and not actual electrical draw.

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:06 AM

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yes

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:06 AM

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Here's my current power draw, whilst folding on my 1080Ti:

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That's total system power consumption... and the machine is doing a lot more than just folding.

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:07 AM

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actually i've found that pretty close

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my 1080 Ti is an AORUS Extreme

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it's MAX power draw is 375W

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:07 AM

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That's insane!

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:07 AM

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WAY higher than the 250W TDP on a founders 1080 Ti

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but even when folding it doesn't pull more than 260W

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and I power limited it to 80%

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so now it draws around 200 W

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also HWInfo64 should give you a card power draw

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:08 AM

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I haven't played with undervolting/power limiting at all on my 1080Ti... and my R5-3600 is happily sipping juice. 🙂

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:09 AM

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what its doing right now

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@dusky maple its one slider in MSI Afterburner

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dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:10 AM

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Current info from HWMonitor

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hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:11 AM

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dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:11 AM

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Just done that.

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I'm guessing that would need to be done after every reboot?

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:13 AM

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i saved that profile and have it set to boot with windows

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if i want more power i just select another profile with that slider set to 150%

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:16 AM

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If the card I have was watercooled, I'd happily be boosting it. It's not, and that's simply because I didn't realise ASUS didn't use the reference design for this card before buying it.

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Temps, noise and power draw have all dropped nicely. Thank you! Such a simple adjustment 🙂

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:17 AM

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np

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you want to see a trick for power limiting a CPU?

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:18 AM

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I've played with the "45W Eco" mode in the BIOS. That seemed to work very well.

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(I'm not currently in eco mode)

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:18 AM

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this can be done on the fly

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within Windows

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:19 AM

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Oh? I don't have Ryzen Master installed, in case that matters.

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:19 AM

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nope doesn't matter

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dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:19 AM

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Ahh. Yeah... that old chestnut!

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:19 AM

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my main gaming PC is an i7-8700k

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i have it OC'd to 5.0 GHz with and AVX offset of -2

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:20 AM

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Shiny

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:20 AM

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thats the difference between 99 and 100% in the power settings

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30W, 15C

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:21 AM

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All that will do is prevent it boosting further, I suppose?

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:22 AM

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basically it disables Turbo Boost completely

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3.6 GHz is the base clock for an 8700k

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but you can do it from within Windows at any time

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:23 AM

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That's a pretty handy tip.

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Thank you 🙂

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As you seem to know your stuff when it comes to hardware tuning... (and apologies if this is the wrong channel to ask)
Do you have any tips on how to enable the all-core turbo that the people buying the Chinese motherboards from AliExpress seem to all be doing? I have an ASUS Z10PE-D16 WS board in my old primary rig (that I haven't turned on in about four-five years), which currently has a pair of E5-2620v3 CPUs in it. I bought the board, RAM, CPUs, case (Obsidian 900D), etc. all brand new retail back in 2014... and barely used it because the triple SLI 980Ti setup I was running kicked out so much heat it was unbearable to sit in the room for more than an hour at a time.

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Now that I've got a 1080Ti, I'd be interested in seeing just how hard I can push those little six core CPUs 🙂

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:28 AM

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you know i have an E5-1620 V3 in a server, never could get it to boost on the Supermicro Mobo

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also i have never really heard of this magic AliExpress mobo

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is that the mobo Linus did a video on?

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:29 AM

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The Z10PE-D16 WS is one of a very select handful of boards for 2011-3 with overclocking intentionally in mind (ASUS' website mentions "up to 10% overclock", which seems mean when boards like that have such awesome VRM cooling)

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Maybe? I've seen them modded on Craft Computing and a few other channels.

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:30 AM

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ohh dont do that

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they are talking about Base clock overclocking

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that's just a recipe for pain

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:31 AM

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BCLK is one thing, sure... but the mods people do to the BIOS images they install on the Chinese boards seem to be able to magically get all of the CPU's cores to run at full boost... not just a single core, but all cores.

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:31 AM

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sorry i have no knowledge on this

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:32 AM

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No worries 🙂

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:32 AM

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i use xeon's for servers, i dont even think about OC'ing them

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:32 AM

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My first Xeon build at home was a pair of E5645 chips on an EVGA SR-2... so maybe I'm just nuts 😂

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I still have the SR-2 board. I should probably sell it some time. I paid £500 to import it used from the US back in 2011-ish.

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:34 AM

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im still using an X5675 in a server

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dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:35 AM

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Nice! I have an X5675 sitting in an ASUS Rampage II Gene... that I've never used.

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:36 AM

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actually i folded on that 5675 for awhile

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it was terrible

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🤣

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:36 AM

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It would be

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:37 AM

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i think it did 25k ppd?

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honestly can't remember

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:37 AM

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Back in the day, I tried folding for a bit on the SR-2 with two E5645s... which, when the CPUs were running at 3GHz+, wasn't too bad. The power draw was crazy for the PPD, though.

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:37 AM

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this guy actually surprised me

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dual E5-2660's

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a little over 150k PPD

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:38 AM

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Sure, but at what cost?

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:38 AM

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you could hear those 9000 RPM fans across the house though

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:38 AM

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Is that the GamersNexus mod mat?

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:39 AM

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it's a modmat

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didn't want to ruin the tablecloth

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well the TDP of the 2660 is 95W

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so probably 180-200W for 150k PPD

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:40 AM

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Sometimes I've used the box the board came in to do test builds... Bad idea for static, but never had an issue.

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:40 AM

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you see its slightly above the mod mat?

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its sitting on the little boxes spark plugs come in.....

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:40 AM

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haha!

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:42 AM

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i ended up putting Noctua low noise adapters on the CPU' Fans

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worked great and only went up like 8C

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:43 AM

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Nice!

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Hmm... Just noticed my SSD is getting rather toasty. It's 58C currently. Should I be worried? It's a 1TB Samsung 970 Evo.

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:46 AM

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that is rather warm

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:46 AM

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That's what I thought!

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:47 AM

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i have an m.2 960 EVO and 860 EVO

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they are 41C and 45C right now

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:51 AM

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I just used the ASUS AI Suite to tweak my fan profiles to force more air through the case.

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Hopefully that'll help the SSD. It's already dropped 3C.

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It's been fun chatting with you, but now I need to get some sleep. I've been awake for the last 22.5 hours...

hushed bobcat Sep 23, 2020, 11:55 AM

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👌

dusky maple Sep 23, 2020, 11:55 AM

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Hopefully we will chat again soon 🙂

snow escarp Sep 23, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Is this mostly a problem on my side or are some WUs just unlucky?

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humble rover Sep 23, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Sometimes good GPUs will fail random WUs. I'd be worried if it became regular.

snow escarp Sep 23, 2020, 8:14 PM

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2 in a row so far... 👀
"Why is my GPU so quiet? Oh"

lapis gulch Sep 24, 2020, 7:14 PM

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well in case anyone was wondering what a 3090 can do

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humble rover Sep 24, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Hope it gets added to the LAR database

lapis gulch Sep 24, 2020, 7:16 PM

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i think it will?

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it submitted for my 2080 super afaik

gaunt wasp Sep 24, 2020, 8:20 PM

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How to fix stuck on “ready”? Happened to two computers at the same time.

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timber grove Sep 24, 2020, 9:07 PM

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just give it time

rich depot Sep 25, 2020, 12:03 AM

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linuth

hushed bobcat Sep 25, 2020, 1:13 AM

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@gaunt wasp pause, wait a few seconds, and resume

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if that doesn't work just wait

hushed bobcat Sep 25, 2020, 3:52 AM

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@gaunt wasp i just noticed you had 11 attempts to start on that WU

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if it's still not working could you post the log for that slot?

rich depot Sep 25, 2020, 8:54 AM

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^^

lapis gulch Sep 25, 2020, 9:40 PM

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https://folding.lar.systems/folding_data/gpu_ppd_datasheet?gpu_model=ga102_geforce_rtx_3090

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well 3090 results are u[

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anyone got a 3080 here?

hushed bobcat Sep 26, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Impressive

stark bough Sep 26, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Whats PPD/W?

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probably worse than upcoming 3070

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n/m saw it. Page loading slowly for me

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yeesh

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https://folding.lar.systems/folding_data/gpu_ppd_overall

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any way to filter by power cost?

stark bough Sep 26, 2020, 8:59 AM

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Been doing it manually. wow. the 2060 KO looks like the best value so far for points per Kwh

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3090 seems likes it $0.31 so far but I'm trying to look for sub $350, and then sub $200 cards with best PPD un new/used markets.

gaunt wasp Sep 26, 2020, 9:33 AM

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@hushed bobcat I think the issue was the fact that I bumped the power strip switch & computer flicked off for a sec, causing a server/client desync issue for the house’s IP. I’ve two computers folding & both were affected.

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All good now, but I’m giving the Mac Pro a bit of a break, as it’s been folding almost non-stop since April & while I don’t mind the fan noise (rear fan has no rubber mounts), it’s very old and I don’t wanna overwork the 13 year old fan motors.

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a day off here & there depending on work unit time from here on out. Meanwhile I can task my Lenovo to fold starting tomorrow. 😊

stark bough Sep 26, 2020, 10:08 AM

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Is the guy running LAR on this discord?

tired crow Sep 26, 2020, 11:14 AM

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3090 seems likes it $0.31 so far but I'm trying to look for sub $350, and then sub $200 cards with best PPD un new/used markets.
@stark bough The best bang for the buck at the moment used would be the RTX 2060 super.

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iauimDyaUS0jnpeYqRNbM2uub-ASvS1OEz2yEUNJgls/edit#gid=0

Google Docs

GPU PPD per kWh

Sheet1

GPU,PPD millions,Card Power Draw (watts),Daily power Usage kWh,Points per kWh,Daily cost @ $0.17 per kWh,Cost per 1m Points,Annual Points millions,Annual power cost
Tesla T4,TU104GL,1.058,70,1.68,629762,$0.29,$0.27,386,$104.24
RTX 2080 Ti Rev. A,TU102,3.219,250,6,53650...

stark bough Sep 26, 2020, 11:30 AM

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what are people upgrading from 2060S going for? probably 3070?

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wondering if prices will drop after 3070 launch

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@tired crow
Thanks for doing the research. now time to find out how much power is going to cost this winter during run

tired crow Sep 26, 2020, 11:49 AM

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It's going to be a while before there is enough data on 3000 cards to figure out an upgrade path. It could turn out some 2000 cards are better.

stark bough Sep 26, 2020, 11:50 AM

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In some circles i run in, some 1070/ti users are looking to go 3080

tired crow Sep 26, 2020, 11:58 AM

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For now I'm going to stick with my 2x 2060 and 2x 2060 supers and wait to see what numbers the 3000's are doing.

rich depot Sep 26, 2020, 3:33 PM

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If I had the money I'd grab 2 3080s and relace all my GPUs with them too

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But with only working about 12 weeks this whole year so far not looking like I'll be getting very much

hushed bobcat Sep 26, 2020, 5:12 PM

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i'm still trying to replace 660 ti's

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i think the cost per 1 mil points is like $7 lol

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i want to replace everything with 2060 supers, but now i want to wait and see what the 3060 looks like

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at the very least it should reduce the price of 2060S's

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at least i hope

next goblet Sep 26, 2020, 5:49 PM

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so 3090 so far best in folding?

hushed bobcat Sep 26, 2020, 5:54 PM

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4.5-5mil reported so far

next goblet Sep 26, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Aaaa my 5700XT got 15mil so far 😄

lapis gulch Sep 26, 2020, 7:26 PM

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oh yea if it matters, if my 3090 is the only one on there, its an Asus TUF 3090 running at default settings

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non oc version

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also im noticing some fluctuations so wait a bit to get more data

stark bough Sep 26, 2020, 8:57 PM

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3090 looks best in folding, for now, but cost to deploy. Hooo boy

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Imagine 3090s during age of mining

upper sequoia Sep 26, 2020, 9:23 PM

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If anybody here has a rtx 3080 or 3090 and is getting crahes or an unstable exprince while running f@h plz notify me

lapis gulch Sep 26, 2020, 9:41 PM

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i have no issues, however I have the TUF version which is apparently not having any crashing issues like the others

hushed bobcat Sep 26, 2020, 10:45 PM

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What's the power draw on the card while folding?

prime solar Sep 27, 2020, 7:18 PM

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thats because Asus didn't cheapout on caps and TUF is one of cheapest cards at least here

hushed bobcat Sep 28, 2020, 12:00 AM

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https://videocardz.com/newz/manufacturers-respond-to-geforce-rtx-3080-3090-crash-to-desktop-issues

VideoCardz.com

WhyCry

Manufacturers respond to GeForce RTX 3080/3090 crash to desktop iss...

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080/3090 graphics cards face Crash To Desktop (CTD) problems The ongoing problems with GeForce RTX 30 series launch are reaching new grounds. From a very limited stock, sponsored videos ahead of independent reviews to actual hardware issues with the very fe...

hushed bobcat Sep 28, 2020, 12:43 AM

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does anyone know if you have to leave the LAR systems web client open all the time for it to send GPU PPD data?

humble rover Sep 28, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Yes tab has to be open

hushed bobcat Sep 28, 2020, 12:46 AM

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😦

humble rover Sep 28, 2020, 12:49 AM

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"It can only log data when the extension is open as it's web based."

tired crow Sep 28, 2020, 12:57 AM

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I just have it in it's own window open all the time in no sleep mode.

hushed bobcat Sep 28, 2020, 12:58 AM

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i should be able to let it sleep right?

tired crow Sep 28, 2020, 12:59 AM

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No have it in NO sleep mode

humble rover Sep 28, 2020, 12:59 AM

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No sleep in the tab so the extension continues collecting data

tired crow Sep 28, 2020, 1:01 AM

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hushed bobcat Sep 28, 2020, 1:01 AM

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unfortunately one of my systems is Linux

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i dont even know how to open the web client lol

humble rover Sep 28, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Im not sure if he has the firefox extension live yet, but I made sure the chrome for linux one worked

tired crow Sep 28, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Also don't forget to Disable Animations

hushed bobcat Sep 28, 2020, 1:08 AM

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yea i did that as soon as i found it

gilded spruce Sep 28, 2020, 2:27 AM

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Anyone happen to know why F@H seems to like to completely drop WU's on logout/restart despite a) being nowhere near finished, b) F@H running as a non-user systemd service?

lapis gulch Sep 28, 2020, 7:53 AM

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with my 3090 i generally leave power limit at 100%, it seems to use all avaliable power generally

hushed bobcat Sep 28, 2020, 7:54 AM

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i was thinking more of an actual power draw in watts

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for example my 1080 Ti at 100% draws around 225W

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TDP is 250W

lapis gulch Sep 28, 2020, 7:54 AM

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~330 to 340 ive seen

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depends on workload

hushed bobcat Sep 28, 2020, 7:54 AM

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so pretty much TDP then

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interesting

lapis gulch Sep 28, 2020, 7:55 AM

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yea

hushed bobcat Sep 28, 2020, 7:56 AM

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then the cost per 1 mil points is probably accurate

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thats impressive

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its 2x more efficient than my 1080 Ti then

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granted my 1080 Ti is 2 generations behind now

lapis gulch Sep 28, 2020, 8:23 AM

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o i think one big reason why it can maintain tdp is because of the boosting

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like i remember on my 2080 super it was using like 80% of tdp on some workloads

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while with 3090 it compensates by boosting much higher to compensate

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some workloads it gets to lkke 1745 mhz, sometimes it goes above 1950

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all at around tdp

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ok rn its sitting at a very consistent 340w

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yea 339-343 is what hwinfo is telling me

tired crow Sep 28, 2020, 5:22 PM

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https://foldingathome.org/2020/09/28/foldingathome-gets-cuda-support/

Folding@home

John Chodera

Together we are Even More Powerful: GPU folding gets a powerup with...

Folding@home adds CUDA support to give NVIDIA GPUs big boosts in speed!

stark bough Sep 28, 2020, 6:30 PM

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RIP AMD

stuck bramble Sep 28, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Yup

gilded spruce Sep 28, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Man, now I really want grab a 3070 if I can

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Between this and Topaz, it's seriously tempting

rich turtle Sep 28, 2020, 9:26 PM

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This jump in points is nuts....

hushed bobcat Sep 28, 2020, 9:30 PM

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rocky launch aside, these cards to bring the ooomph

rich turtle Sep 28, 2020, 9:34 PM

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I meant the Cuda thing

hushed bobcat Sep 28, 2020, 9:36 PM

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im looking at that chart now

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my 660 Ti's may match my P106-90's now....

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well....

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not counting the boost to the P106-90

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1080 Ti nearly 30% boost

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does anyone know when will this be implemented?

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is it already implemented?

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it just says update your graphics drivers

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i just updated today to 456.38

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also i dont know what "core22 0.0.13" is referring to

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we've been on core22 for some time now

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looks like 456.55 was released today

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ill give this a few days to settle i guess

thorny inlet Sep 28, 2020, 11:35 PM

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It's already implemented. Running my GTX680 right now, pumping 280 000ppd
Wish there was an easy to use benchmark to compare opencl to cuda performance

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Yeah I was thinking “wait we weren’t optimized for CUDA already?”

timber grove Sep 29, 2020, 12:45 AM

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wellp time to update some drivers

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 2:12 AM

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@thorny inlet do you need 456.55?

thorny inlet Sep 29, 2020, 2:18 AM

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I installed 456.38, works fine too

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 3:18 AM

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whats update precedure again? is it just GFE?

tired crow Sep 29, 2020, 4:01 AM

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I updated to 456.55 today and it's working just fine

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Anyone have benchmarks yet before and after?\

timber grove Sep 29, 2020, 4:42 AM

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it does shave off some time but it depends on the WU

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 4:43 AM

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out of conteXt PPD lol

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timber grove Sep 29, 2020, 5:08 AM

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lol

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 5:49 AM

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I should take all 7 days to make it

timber grove Sep 29, 2020, 5:52 AM

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yup

tired crow Sep 29, 2020, 5:53 AM

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@stark bough this might give you some idea.

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stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 5:54 AM

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Oof hard to read on my phone. But thanks

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What did you used to generate that?

tired crow Sep 29, 2020, 5:55 AM

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HFM.NET

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I'm running 2x 2060 and 2x 2060 super and my PPD is up about 40%

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But it's still early we will have to see how it all settles down

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 6:03 AM

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it says avg for that WU but i know my 660 Ti usually only does 80-100k PPD normally

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stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 6:06 AM

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its a good thing we can scrape infro from such a large pool

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huh. think my app might actually report folding stats.

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 6:09 AM

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this is interesting

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stats on a GTX 970

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my 970 now

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whats interesting is this is on a Linux system thats been up since April

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with old drivers

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linux driver 440.1

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1080 Ti just broke 2 mil PPD

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Now if I can get this working on mobile

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Yeah, seems like im getting an extra 20-30K compared to what im used to

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hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 6:19 AM

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this is pretty sweet

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now we just need a PPD boost for CPU WU's....

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 6:20 AM

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gold contributor here I cime.

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watch them find a way to turn intel quicksync into a booster.

tired crow Sep 29, 2020, 6:21 AM

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stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 6:21 AM

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I got a bunch of 8th gen i3s sitting around

timber grove Sep 29, 2020, 6:21 AM

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lol

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 6:21 AM

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normally they work as just nodes/plex servers/ etc

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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gFv6s_ANrI0/maxresdefault.jpg

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 6:22 AM

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8th gen i3 would do great in a NAS

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 6:22 AM

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not quite this level but still.

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4790 is going into a NAS. i3 is a dedicated plex server

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anyone watch last WAN show? someone else mentioned 12vDC as a possible low power build for LTT

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 6:24 AM

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You mean the new intel 12v standard?

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 6:24 AM

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yeah

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native 12v.

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boost-buck

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 6:25 AM

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Car battery straight to the motherboard 😋

timber grove Sep 29, 2020, 6:25 AM

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lol

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 6:26 AM

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overevving increasses PPD at cost of MPG.

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 6:28 AM

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Mechanically driven PPD

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 6:31 AM

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PPD/MPG tables when

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 6:31 AM

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Actually if we wanted

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I have a backup generator that I know the fuel burn rate

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We could calculate points per gallon

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...

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I want to do that now

timber grove Sep 29, 2020, 6:36 AM

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thats one way to fold

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 6:40 AM

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ehh yolo

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 6:42 AM

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@hushed bobcat No do this

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hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 6:42 AM

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My backup generator is 12.5 kW continuous, according to the service manual best fuel efficiency is at 80% load or about 10 kW

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the 2060 Super draws 175W

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 6:43 AM

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https://twitter.com/Madrinas/status/1127952127895248896?s=20

Madrinas Coffee (@Madrinas)

Grab your 6-pack of LTT Exclusive Vanilla Cold Brew 40% off TODAY and enter for the chance to get caffeinated for FREE – use code ‘LINUS’ at checkout! https://t.co/KDeUVXULHa

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hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 6:43 AM

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57 of those is 9975 Watts

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 6:43 AM

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Calculate the PPD Per Madrinas.

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 6:44 AM

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the PPD last week for a 2060S was 2.1 million

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so 57 would be 119,700,000 PPD

timber grove Sep 29, 2020, 6:44 AM

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shitt

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 6:44 AM

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fuel burn rate is 0.8 GPH

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24 hours would be 19.2 Gallons

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 6:45 AM

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https://www.lttstore.com/products/linus-tech-tips-insulated-water-bottle#:~:text=cart is empty-,Linus Tech Tips Insulated Water Bottle - 21oz (620ml),Holds 21 fluid ounces

Linus Tech Tips Store

Linus Tech Tips Insulated Water Bottle - 21oz (620ml)

Show off your inner techie in style with the LTT vacuum-insulated water bottle. Linus Tech Tips vacuum insulated water bottles are intended to keep hot drinks hot for up to 8 hours, and cold drinks cold for up to 16 hours. Holds 21 fluid ounces Important safety notes:This prod...

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LTT Water bottle is 21 oz.

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how many LTTstore.com water bottles to get 1 mill points

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 6:46 AM

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PPD / Gallons = 6,234,375 Points Per Gallon of Diesel

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 6:47 AM

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better yet, how many points is an LTT water bottle worth?

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:d

thorny inlet Sep 29, 2020, 6:47 AM

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over 9000

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 6:47 AM

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avg diesel price is $2.40 a gallon

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 6:48 AM

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LTT store should send a free water bottle full of diesel for folding month to every folder

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😄

timber grove Sep 29, 2020, 6:49 AM

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i forgot how much cheaper diesel is in the states

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below canada

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 6:51 AM

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i'm brain farting on calculating the cost per point

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i took 6,234,375 / 2.40 and got 2,597,656.25

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so does that mean you can get 2.6 mil points for $0.01?

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that doesnt sound right

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wait it would be 240

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not 2.40

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25,977 points per $0.01 of fuel spent

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if my math is correct 1 mil points would cost $0.38

timber grove Sep 29, 2020, 6:56 AM

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to much math

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 6:56 AM

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if you look at daily cost at 0.17 per kWH 57 of these would be $40.47 per day

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my gen going 24h would be $46.08

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thats actually much closer than i thought it would be

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my math is probably wrong then lol

timber grove Sep 29, 2020, 7:03 AM

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just let the ltt group test it out for you

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 7:05 AM

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we need some real world testing

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someone send me 57 RTX 2060 Supers

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and enough 8 GPU server chassis to put them in

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🤣

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ill provide the diesel

timber grove Sep 29, 2020, 7:08 AM

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just put on mining rig frames

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 7:08 AM

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well the problem with those is you can usually only get 3 x8 slots

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a threadripper CPU or enthusiast Intel CPU could get you 4 slots

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but i was going for density

timber grove Sep 29, 2020, 7:09 AM

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do you not know how to setup a mining rig?

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 7:10 AM

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are you talking about mining boards with lots of USB on the board?

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and you use USB to PCiE adapters?

timber grove Sep 29, 2020, 7:13 AM

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pcie risers

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 7:13 AM

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unlike mining, folding actually uses all those pcie lanes..

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x1 hurts PPD

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 7:13 AM

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☝️

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 7:14 AM

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you can always attempt bifurcation.

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 7:14 AM

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from my testing you need a minimum of x4 PCIE 3.0

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 7:14 AM

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in theory you can also use eGPU

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 7:14 AM

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even then you will probably take a PPD hit

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true

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but i dont think you can daisy chain eGPU's

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 7:14 AM

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you can't

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Wish pcie 4.0 was a thing

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 7:15 AM

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even if you could you are limited by thunderbolt bandwidth

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 7:15 AM

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pcie 4.0 x4 in theory can handle the bandwidth bottlenecks in loopback mode.

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 7:15 AM

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it is now isnt it?

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RTX 3000 is 4.0

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AMD has 4.0

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 7:15 AM

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not over ~~TB3~~

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 7:15 AM

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ahh yes

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 7:15 AM

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Pcie form factor 4.0

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not over usb-c though

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 7:16 AM

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is there a thunderbolt 4 on the way?

timber grove Sep 29, 2020, 7:16 AM

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i think so

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 7:16 AM

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usb 4.0 was greenlighted for pcie 3.0 x4 bandwidth, not pcie 4.0

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 7:16 AM

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what about those remote PCIE things linus used in his 8 Editors 1 workstation build?

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 7:18 AM

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think it was 6 editors using 8k

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 7:18 AM

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thats probably right

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all i remember is he had a hell of a time with it lol

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 7:19 AM

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lol

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AMD has joined the chat

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 7:19 AM

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i suppose if you had a server board with 3 PCIE x16 slots

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and all of them supported x4x4x4x4 Bifurcation

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 7:19 AM

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last one was 7 gamers 1 cpu

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 7:20 AM

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thats 12 GPU's on one system

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hmm

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 7:20 AM

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oh they were dual xeon

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 7:20 AM

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let me look at some diagrams of Supermicro Threadripper boards

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maybe 1 has 4 slots

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 7:21 AM

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the nightmare was in usb connectivity iirc.

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https://youtu.be/1yFQd4MaKK0?t=216

YouTube

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Here was the bifurcation issue

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 7:23 AM

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no way

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if im reading that right every slot is full electrical

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so the x8's have 8 lanes each

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and every x16 has 16 lanes each

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it looks like the PCIE 8x slots to share lanes to the CPU

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but it seems like they have the proper lanes reserved

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i'd have to really dig into the manual to see if every one supports Bifurcation

thorny inlet Sep 29, 2020, 7:29 AM

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128 lanes baby

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 7:29 AM

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but if they did,

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thats 24 graphics cards

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each with PCIE 4.0 4x slot

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you would need a 16c/32t EPYC at a minimum just to feed that many GPU's

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that many graphics cards would draw 4,200 Watts

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would probably need 300W for the CPU and motherboard

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so 4,500-4,600 watts

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you would need a 240V circuit for that

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 8:17 AM

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yeah boi use all those lanes

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 10:06 AM

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you would need a 240V circuit for that
@hushed bobcat
Just run your second PSU to another room or unplug the electric stove 😄

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 10:17 AM

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at 4600 watts you pretty much need 3 PSU's lol

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https://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImageCompressAll1280/A5EM_130722553522891702aOAxvkDSei.jpg

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 10:31 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoW4vXnkhJw
powering that thing ia going to require a new breaker panel

YouTube

Stuart Alldritt

In my head when I reset the breaker panel...

Cut together scene from Jurassic Park showing only the breaker reset sequence, because that's what I see in my head when I reset my home's breaker panel.

▶ Play video

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 10:48 AM

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Do I risk a WU failing if it was assigned when it had 2, then I paused it and gave it 6 simply cause I want the WU to be complete before I go to bed?

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CPU

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 10:49 AM

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it wont update

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because that WU was meant for 2 threads

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i've tried it

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 10:50 AM

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bah. 2 it remains then. 9 hours here we go.

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 10:51 AM

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i updated the drivers on my Linux folding machine

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from 440.1 to 450.66

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it DID NOT like it

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 10:52 AM

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RIP. rollback possible?

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 10:52 AM

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can you do that on Linux?

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also my remote management isn't working now either

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i think its time to put Windows on it again lol

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 10:53 AM

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DO you remote manage over internet or just LAN?

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 10:53 AM

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IF you can get linux setup it works great

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 10:53 AM

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been meaning to figure it out.

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 10:53 AM

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but when it breaks you basically have to start over

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because i dont know how to fix it properly

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i use VNC to manage it over LAN @stark bough

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Linux box has X11Server and my main PC has RealVNC

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 10:55 AM

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So everything to one computer, and then VNC to that?

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 10:55 AM

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?

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when i say manage i mean manage the desktop

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so for updating/ rebooting/ checking temps

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if you're talking about FAH then i just have the clients connected to the Advanced client on my main PC

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 10:57 AM

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sorry, yeah thats what i meant

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 10:57 AM

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stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 10:57 AM

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how do you check your main PC when you're out. remote desktop software too?

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 10:58 AM

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well i don't check my main PC when im out

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but if i wanted to i would remote into my network via my Private VPN

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 10:59 AM

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Yeah ive been meaning to set something up like that.

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 10:59 AM

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i have it set up so that when i log into my VPN it acts like im on my local LAN

stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 11:00 AM

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or a site to site VPN.

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Grandma doesn't pay electricity and usually has the heat on high in november, so...

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 12:58 PM

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🤔

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man the P106 really doesn't like that WU lol

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 1:48 PM

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nevermind lol

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i think it found it's happy place

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the CUDA improvements soo far have been very impressive

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proper fractal Sep 29, 2020, 4:03 PM

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reminder that the official folding month starts on the 12th.

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Read the details and everything here: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1240962-ltt-official-folding-month-2020/?do=getNewComment

Linus Tech Tips

LTT Official Folding Month 2020!!!

LTT Folding Month 2020 Event Starts October, 12th (00:00 BST) Ends November 22nd (23:59 GMT) Sign up for the event here: Sign ups will close October, 9th, 00:00 BST https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1b3C_vMnxgzF1_3aSoY1fQXHIE-usPuxU72f4RlzaCWk This event will be eligible for F@H...

hushed bobcat Sep 29, 2020, 5:42 PM

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stark bough Sep 29, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Oof. Reminds me. I need to repaste

humble rover Sep 29, 2020, 11:15 PM

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My 1070 is now matching my v64 on P13426 at 1m ppd, TPF within a few seconds welp

tender maple Sep 30, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Probs a stupid question, but BOINC is used for cluster servers, right?

stark bough Sep 30, 2020, 1:21 AM

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I was getting 'headaches' from when my GPU was folding. trying ti find out why

wheat lynx Sep 30, 2020, 1:21 AM

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coil whine?

stark bough Sep 30, 2020, 1:21 AM

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yep

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running at 100% power target

wheat lynx Sep 30, 2020, 1:21 AM

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oh dear. that's not an easy thing to fix

stark bough Sep 30, 2020, 1:21 AM

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normally I run at 80% but looks like a software update reset my presets.

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Much better after I dropped it to 80%

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Even maintaining my clocks.

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I only go +23 on GPU, no Mem boost.

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Anyone had to tune their cards with this new update?

wheat lynx Sep 30, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Nvidia or AMD?

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I noticed a new adreniline edition came out but I rarely update my drivers unless I'm having a problem

timber grove Sep 30, 2020, 1:28 AM

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i had to restart my pc after installing the latest nvidia driver just so i could put the OC back on my gpu

hushed bobcat Sep 30, 2020, 1:51 AM

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My nvidia control panel is broken after the driver update

timber grove Sep 30, 2020, 1:53 AM

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thats happened to me before

hushed bobcat Sep 30, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Have you been able to fix it?

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I tried a few things from a quick Google search but no dice

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Im afraid that I'll have to DDU and install the drivers again

tired crow Sep 30, 2020, 2:25 AM

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I had a few weird things happening after driver update but a reboot fixed everything

proper fractal Sep 30, 2020, 4:16 AM

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@tired crow wanted to say thank you for doing the data handling for the event, so thank you

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I mean I think it's you that's doing something at least

tired crow Sep 30, 2020, 4:17 AM

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It is and thanks

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At the moment it's just validating allthe entries

proper fractal Sep 30, 2020, 4:19 AM

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It's better than nothing

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Over here all I'm doing is giving reactions and stuff

tired crow Sep 30, 2020, 4:19 AM

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It all helps

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And that reminds me anyone here who has signed up for folding month please check your entry on the signup sheet and make sure you signed up correctly. We have a lot of entries the need corrections.

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14QYkwUwQW1jN0qX5MJHF5SBu48GL68xUDzE2tbfvuNg/edit#gid=336276407

Google Docs

Folding month 2020 Sign Ups

Form responses 1

ID,LTT Forum Name,Folding Name,Notes
1,minibois,minibois
2,GOTSpectrum,BenQuigley,Key for validation:
If the name is real mark it as yellow, this is for both forum and folding names.

If the forum profile has a folding badge that links to the correct folding ...

stark bough Sep 30, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Yeah. im not on there.

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Sodadog

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Anyone else reset the OC on their MSI afterburner with latest update?

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You can't enter the event folding for PCMR you have to fold for LTT team #223518

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lol

tired crow Sep 30, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Yes you are I think Spec signed you up before he signed himself up

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Used you as a test subject

timber grove Sep 30, 2020, 5:52 AM

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i had to restart my pc after installing the latest nvidia driver just so i could put the OC back on my gpu
@stark bough

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ok im signed up for folding month

lapis gulch Sep 30, 2020, 6:53 AM

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wait is this ppd boost from the cuda update

stark bough Sep 30, 2020, 7:12 AM

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Ok. See myself now. For some reason CTRL+F didn’t see me in the page

lapis gulch Sep 30, 2020, 8:13 AM

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yup overestimated at the beginning

rich depot Sep 30, 2020, 9:05 AM

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@tired crow I didn't sign mobius up, that was denfi who I signed up.

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@stark bough Just hit the sign up form, I'd rather end up with two entries than not have you on there man

stark bough Sep 30, 2020, 9:06 AM

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@rich depot Thanks bud. I’m on there. 139.
Couldn’t find it earlier with search

rich depot Sep 30, 2020, 9:07 AM

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Weird, it didnt show up with a search for me either... We'll blame google!

tired crow Sep 30, 2020, 9:07 AM

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His name is SodaDog

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I just got confused

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And he needs to claim his Silver folding badge

rich depot Sep 30, 2020, 9:10 AM

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Ahh, I see, hes one of those people who have wildly different names across the internet

stark bough Sep 30, 2020, 9:46 AM

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KEKW

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I only really use LTT forums for folding. I mostly lurk.

rich depot Sep 30, 2020, 12:49 PM

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@stark bough Me too tbh

hushed bobcat Sep 30, 2020, 4:16 PM

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oh wow

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im getting no WU's available for one of my folding boxes

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haven't seen that in awhile

wheat lynx Sep 30, 2020, 4:19 PM

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I just got back into it now that temps are dropping, and i was gonna say the same. CPU is idling

hushed bobcat Sep 30, 2020, 4:19 PM

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yea 8 thread CPU slot idling for me

rich depot Sep 30, 2020, 5:09 PM

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@rich depot Bbbjoo

fickle needle Sep 30, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Folding, I don't get you, 6 months ago I got this all set up, and my GTS 450 was no longer pulling tasks, get annoyed, gnash my teeth, then hot season happened, that's all done, power my old folding rig thinking i'd find another use for it, bam, it's pulling tasks again like nothing changed

timber grove Sep 30, 2020, 7:25 PM

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lol

stuck bramble Sep 30, 2020, 8:57 PM

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wait is this ppd boost from the cuda update
@lapis gulch Prob

rich depot Sep 30, 2020, 9:08 PM

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@fickle needle Welcome back into the fold!

fickle needle Sep 30, 2020, 9:11 PM

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i'm here for a good time, not a long time

drifting palm Oct 1, 2020, 4:17 AM

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Just passed 100 million points!
https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=835318

📎 Screenshot_277.png

EXTREME Overclocking

Mister_Rogers User Summary - Folding@Home Stats

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timber grove Oct 1, 2020, 5:18 AM

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nice

fierce steppe Oct 1, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Woah. I'm rank 467 in the team now. I used to be like rank 110 or something. RIP me I guess

timber grove Oct 1, 2020, 6:33 AM

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dam

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if you start running another 1660 you'll get the same PPD as my 2070

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it sounds like it

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how much power does the card pull

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i might get a job so i can get a few of them cards

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i think around 200ish watts. i have it under a heavy oc

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+100 on the core and +800 on the mem

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that should give you a better idea of what my gpu is doing

📎 Screenshot_2020-09-30_224911.png

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hwinfo doesn't refresh very quickly

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my card is water cooled to so it helps, but i can get the card up to 2.1 ghz on the core if i want to but it start to become unstable

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i ran it with the stock air cooler for about a year and it did decent

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thats the funny part i did run it under load without the pump running and it stayed coolish

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but i do watch the temps tho

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https://us.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-RTX-2070-GAMING-Z-8G thats the card i have

GeForce RTX 2070 GAMING Z 8G | Graphics card - The world leader in ...

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thats enough to run the card

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hmm

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one 8 pin and a 6 pin

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i have an rmi

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its used but its been working well

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the psu is the hardest part to pick out

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yup

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but i did build my first pc when bitcoin was very popular so my gpu was very expensive tho it was a 1060 6g. so a psu is a bit better in that terms

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i mine every now and then

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the worst card i have for folding is an amd r9 270x

stark bough Oct 1, 2020, 7:40 AM

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Oof I got one of those

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Was actually thinking of seeing if I can bring it back to life

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 1:42 PM

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hmm

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this is interesting

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@brittle coral you were the one looking at PCIE bus bandwith usage for graphics cards right?

brittle coral Oct 1, 2020, 7:53 PM

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yea back a while ago

shut halo Oct 1, 2020, 8:08 PM

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where can I find up to date list of hardware PPD? I am trying to find how much PPD those new nvidia cards (RTX 3080/3090) get

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am interested to see how much does the doubled cuda core amount boost the PPD

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 8:20 PM

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@shut halo https://folding.lar.systems/folding_data/gpu_ppd_overall

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I think the 3090 is closer to 6.5 million PPD

shut halo Oct 1, 2020, 8:22 PM

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so the doubled cuda amount does something. Thanks

brittle coral Oct 1, 2020, 8:25 PM

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@hushed bobcat not feeling great today and reading comprehension is at 0, did y'all have a question about PCIe bandwidth?

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Not a question

brittle coral Oct 1, 2020, 8:25 PM

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i am failing to attempt to skim through

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lol fosho

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 8:25 PM

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I'm folding on some p106-90's

brittle coral Oct 1, 2020, 8:26 PM

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4x gen3 is fine for those

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the -100 too

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 8:26 PM

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I noticed the bus usage is 80%+

brittle coral Oct 1, 2020, 8:26 PM

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yea lol

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thats normal

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 8:26 PM

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The card is wired for 4x gen 1.1

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.....

brittle coral Oct 1, 2020, 8:27 PM

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owat

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uhhh

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Yep

brittle coral Oct 1, 2020, 8:27 PM

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who made it

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 8:27 PM

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GPUz confirmed it

brittle coral Oct 1, 2020, 8:27 PM

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is it some china shiz?

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Zotac

brittle coral Oct 1, 2020, 8:27 PM

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lmao zotac probably cheaped the fuck out because those cards were never meant for folding

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and crypto is fine on a 1x

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get data into card, card crunches hashes, hashes spit back out. very low bandwidth and ram usage

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zotac being the fucking cheapskates they are probably lowered the spec

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i will remember this zotac

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 8:28 PM

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I looked up the specs for the card and it says PCIE 3.0

brittle coral Oct 1, 2020, 8:28 PM

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yea

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it should be

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Let me get a screenshot

brittle coral Oct 1, 2020, 8:29 PM

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if it were only scaling down to like gen2 or something i would think maybe it's something fucky with your hardware elsewhere cause you';re using an old rig, but you know better than to make that mistake

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 8:29 PM

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https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/zotac-p106-090.b4832

TechPowerUp

ZOTAC P106-090 Specs

NVIDIA GP106, 1531 MHz, 768 Cores, 48 TMUs, 48 ROPs, 3072 MB GDDR5, 2002 MHz, 192 bit

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here is the card

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brittle coral Oct 1, 2020, 8:30 PM

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every idea i can think of for why that might be doesn't make sense specifically because its fucking 1st gen PCIe its reverting to, and nobody's used that for ages

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 8:30 PM

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GPU's 1 and 2 are P106-90's

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GPU3 is a GTX 660 Ti

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brittle coral Oct 1, 2020, 8:31 PM

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https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?nomobile=1&f=38&t=32223&start=60

Folding Forum • View topic - Any recommendations for inexpensive se...

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ctrl-f 1.1

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others having same issue

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they are also saying they're 1.1

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 8:32 PM

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i mean for mining they do get away with plugging them in via USB

brittle coral Oct 1, 2020, 8:32 PM

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yea

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lol

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 8:32 PM

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and these cards do push out 350-400k PPD

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so they aren't terrible

brittle coral Oct 1, 2020, 8:32 PM

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that sounds about right

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tbh

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i wonder if bus useage stats in afterburner are not entirely useful or if it's not reporting correctly and actually is at gen3

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i know there's a point where a gen3 4x will bottleneck a 2080 super

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maybe a 2070

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i havent tested

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they badly bottleneck a 2080ti

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 8:34 PM

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i added a P106-90 to my gaming system with the 1080 Ti

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even at x8 the 1080 Ti barely needs 20% bus usage

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the system that the 2 P016's and 1 660 Ti are in has been giving me fits all morning

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freeze ups

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BSOD

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BSOD on boot....

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getting stuck in the BIOS

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the only word i can think of for this setup

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"Monstrosity"

timber grove Oct 1, 2020, 9:11 PM

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at that it is

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 9:18 PM

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The GPU's total out to ~750k PPD

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I'm hoping I can around 200k from the CPU's

shut halo Oct 1, 2020, 9:19 PM

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huh? 3 GPU and only 750K PPD?

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Yep

shut halo Oct 1, 2020, 9:19 PM

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that looks oddly low

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 9:19 PM

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1 is old and the other 2 are low power

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2 p106-90's and a GTX 660 Ti

shut halo Oct 1, 2020, 9:21 PM

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ooh. fair enough

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Before the CUDA update the 660 Ti would only do 80-100k PPD

shut halo Oct 1, 2020, 9:21 PM

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cuda update?

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 9:21 PM

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After the update it's more than doubled

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Yea

shut halo Oct 1, 2020, 9:21 PM

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how do I know if I have that?

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 9:21 PM

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https://foldingathome.org/2020/09/28/foldingathome-gets-cuda-support/

Folding@home

John Chodera

Together we are Even More Powerful: GPU folding gets a powerup with...

Folding@home adds CUDA support to give NVIDIA GPUs big boosts in speed!

shut halo Oct 1, 2020, 9:22 PM

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my RTX 2070 does 1,8M-2M PPD

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Just need 7.6.13 client and the latest nVidia drivers

shut halo Oct 1, 2020, 9:23 PM

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and where I can find my client version?

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 9:23 PM

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My 1080Ti was around 1-1.5 mil, now it's 1.8-2.4 mil PPD

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Should have an "About" section in the advanced client

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Or look at system information in the advanced client

shut halo Oct 1, 2020, 9:24 PM

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7.6.13 it says

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it does automatically update it seem

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 9:24 PM

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No

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That client came out in April if I remember right

shut halo Oct 1, 2020, 9:25 PM

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date apr 27 2020

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 9:25 PM

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You just can't have anything older

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Ahh I was right

shut halo Oct 1, 2020, 9:25 PM

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I am pretty sure I haven't updated this since last year

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 9:27 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509115775752339456/760499128987418704/unknown.png

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40% improvement is nothing to sneeze at

stark bough Oct 1, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Time to set power target even lower

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Or take a card out of the picture

shut halo Oct 1, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Do I have to keep f@h client tab open for this addon to track my PPD and workers?

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 9:32 PM

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The lar system dark client?

shut halo Oct 1, 2020, 9:32 PM

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aye

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Yes

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And disable sleep mode and animations

shut halo Oct 1, 2020, 9:34 PM

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and then I can just forget it?

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like it'll keep track on my client?

stark bough Oct 1, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Set power plan to max or equivalent

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Yes

crimson sparrow Oct 1, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Hmm, https://stats.foldingathome.org/os looks weird.

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Used to be like 4.4 ExaFLOPS a week ago

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now it's less than 10% of that, something in their statistics isn't adding up

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Do you guys use software to underclock your folding gpus? I pay for my electricity so I kinda experimented a little and I found that limiting my gpu to 60% power, it still does 90% of the work, it's a good compromise between power and efficiency.

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Also, a lot less noisy.

shut halo Oct 1, 2020, 10:07 PM

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I have used MSI AB and set the power target between 60 to 80%.

crimson sparrow Oct 1, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Yep I used MSI AB too

shut halo Oct 1, 2020, 10:07 PM

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But lately I've been kinda lazy and I just let the card blast the packages at maxed power limit with oc

crimson sparrow Oct 1, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Mine is in the bedroom soo.. the lower noise level kinda helps me sleep 🙂

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Ah, looks like they had a mismatch in their gpu counts and estimates.

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https://foldingathome.org/2020/09/27/updating-our-cpu-and-gpu-counts/

Folding@home

Greg Bowman

Updating our CPU and GPU counts - Folding@home

It’s always fun to watch the number of CPUs and GPUs running Folding@home! Earlier this year was particularly exciting as we saw explosive growth in Folding@home in response to our…

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Propably purged the old stats and started again

hushed bobcat Oct 1, 2020, 10:17 PM

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i fold at 80% power limit

stark bough Oct 1, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Same. undervolt?

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I can hear coil whine at 100% max folding

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strangely doesnt bother me when gaming though.

crimson sparrow Oct 1, 2020, 10:20 PM

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games don't really tax the gpu to the same extent

stark bough Oct 1, 2020, 10:35 PM

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which is why i was suprised to hear it when i first started really folding in depth

lapis gulch Oct 1, 2020, 10:56 PM

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is the 3080 on folding.lar.systems around here?

tired crow Oct 2, 2020, 12:12 AM

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All my GPU's are at 80%

solemn mulch Oct 2, 2020, 1:15 AM

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congrats @unreal cradle

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: )

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I still struggling in 3 mil lol

timber grove Oct 2, 2020, 1:30 AM

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i think my laptop is folding under my old folding name even tho i have it on my new name

vernal lodge Oct 2, 2020, 2:06 AM

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bro this new ryzen folded like 6x the points that my old dual core did in a single day lmaoooo
and its way more power efficient. plus it can heat up my room in the winter

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also i do wonder something. my rtx 2060 seems to only be 30 percent utilized on full folding power with the web client? why would that be?

timber grove Oct 2, 2020, 2:11 AM

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stuff lies

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use a hardware monitoring software

vernal lodge Oct 2, 2020, 2:13 AM

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task manager says it -w-

brittle coral Oct 2, 2020, 2:16 AM

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shit imma hit a billion points this week sometime

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timber grove Oct 2, 2020, 5:15 AM

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im thinking of stealing my 1060 out of the nas to replace the 270x

stark bough Oct 2, 2020, 5:17 AM

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too hot too fold right now :/

timber grove Oct 2, 2020, 5:18 AM

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my room rn is 27.37C

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or 81.27F

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and can get hotter

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so its never to hot to fold

stark bough Oct 2, 2020, 5:22 AM

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thats with a room fan pointed at it.

fierce steppe Oct 2, 2020, 5:28 AM

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So uhh, how about that CUDA support aye
Not bad for a 1080Ti

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timber grove Oct 2, 2020, 5:32 AM

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dam

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that PPD

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i cant wait for winter

fickle needle Oct 2, 2020, 5:42 AM

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IT'S WORKING! 😄

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hushed bobcat Oct 2, 2020, 5:57 AM

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@vernal lodge task manager isn't very good at accurate monitoring, especially the GPU.
if you want to see actual usage you need to change one of the charts to either CUDA or Compute_0

vernal lodge Oct 2, 2020, 1:12 PM

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oh

hushed bobcat Oct 2, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Mine does 2.25m at 80% fairly regularly

marble quartz Oct 2, 2020, 7:02 PM

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Is folding cheaper than running the space heater I wonder

rich depot Oct 2, 2020, 8:01 PM

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^^

floral ether Oct 2, 2020, 8:21 PM

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im thinking of stealing my 1060 out of the nas to replace the 270x
@timber grove Why did you put a 1060 in a NAS?

timber grove Oct 2, 2020, 8:59 PM

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plex

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plus the cpu is a ryzen 5 1600x

rigid tartan Oct 2, 2020, 9:08 PM

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is it woth it getting folding 1060s for fah?

timber grove Oct 2, 2020, 9:09 PM

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i haven't pulled it out yet

shut halo Oct 2, 2020, 9:20 PM

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o boi. My RTX2070 pulls like 200-220W when folding, and it wants more it seems. Throttled by power limit

tired crow Oct 2, 2020, 9:25 PM

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@shut halo that is way too high a 2070 should only pull a max of 175w

timber grove Oct 2, 2020, 9:28 PM

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not when its on an oc

shut halo Oct 2, 2020, 9:29 PM

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that's tru

tired crow Oct 2, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Where are they rated at 225 ?#

timber grove Oct 2, 2020, 9:30 PM

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top is around 175 I think

tired crow Oct 2, 2020, 9:30 PM

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But which spec sheet ? spec I've seen say 175

timber grove Oct 2, 2020, 9:30 PM

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but the card can pull over 200 watts

shut halo Oct 2, 2020, 9:31 PM

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at stock the power limit is like 175W.

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timber grove Oct 2, 2020, 9:35 PM

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thats about what my card is doing

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tired crow Oct 2, 2020, 9:35 PM

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left side in founders right is 2070

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shut halo Oct 2, 2020, 9:35 PM

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my card is a Asus Strix 2070.

tired crow Oct 2, 2020, 9:37 PM

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super is 215

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iauimDyaUS0jnpeYqRNbM2uub-ASvS1OEz2yEUNJgls/edit#gid=0

Google Docs

GPU PPD per kWh

Sheet1

Due to the new core22 (0.0.13) that takes advantage of Nvidia GPU's CUDA cores this sheet is currently out of date.
It will be updated once everything has settled down
GPU,PPD millions,Card Power Draw (watts),Daily power Usage kWh,Points per kWh,Daily cost @ $0.17 per...

shut halo Oct 2, 2020, 9:38 PM

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I could get higher efficiency if I turned the OC down

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1.209M PPD looks oddly low in that sheet

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with current project that is

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If I let this run a whole day I would end up around 1,8M PPD probably

tired crow Oct 2, 2020, 9:41 PM

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All the data on the sheet comes from

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https://folding.lar.systems/folding_data/gpu_ppd_overall

shut halo Oct 2, 2020, 9:42 PM

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there it says 1,6M PPD for 2070. That's more accurate

tired crow Oct 2, 2020, 9:44 PM

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The data is real time and at the moment is changing fast becasue of cuda that is why there is a note on the sheet

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Once everything has seteled down I'll update the sheet

hushed bobcat Oct 2, 2020, 9:54 PM

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AiB's can go WAY over factory TDP on cards

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this is factory

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my 1080 Ti

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375W

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the only way i've been able to hit 375 is with a synthetic benchmark or Furmark

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when folding i have it limited to 80%

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or about 200W

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that gives me 1.8-2.2m PPD

tired crow Oct 2, 2020, 10:00 PM

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250 is the spec for a 1080Ti

timber grove Oct 2, 2020, 10:02 PM

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I have an Xbox one laying around in my room is it possible to get it to fold?