#folding-and-boinc | Linus Tech Tips | Page 78

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:30 PM

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i think im going to mine some soon

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i have access to a friend's special trade bot that i can't say any more about

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other than feeding it with mining helps increase the snowball

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in short it can make mining profitable long term even if its more power than the coins are worth short term, but im only gonna do it on some cards to start

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F@H is my primary concern but im also disabled and need to figure out long term income solutions (10y+

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:31 PM

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I never really got into mining, but I also have a full time job and haven't thought much about money

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as long as I have enough to get by and do what I want

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:31 PM

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mostly im trying to sell a few for him and help everyone else out folding as well

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i feel it

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that makes sense if you have good income

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:32 PM

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I like folding, it's a way to help out researchers who don't have supercomputer access

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:32 PM

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yea and funny enough

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those researchers are getting their work finished faster than the ones that do now

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thats why there's so fucking many covid WUs

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everyone is just using us

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its great

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i love it

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it may not be quite as efficient but like

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:32 PM

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I want to see published results from covid WUs -.-

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:33 PM

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when everyone's lives are on the line priorities change

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thats why i got a 2080ti

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i figure if i don't die within a year i will have folded a monster load even tho new cards are coming soon

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and uh

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morbid, but if i die, then i had the most amazing PC i could afford till i do and no regrets

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:33 PM

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I mean a big problem with distributed computing and folding, is each node (user) isn't beefy. That limits the simulation size

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:33 PM

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im high risk with asthma and other health issues

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so thats why its my big focus

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:33 PM

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otoh a supercomputer can have hundreds of GBs of RAM per node

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:33 PM

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long term living and stuff is a big thing to worry about

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yea lol

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:34 PM

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yeah I also have asthma

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:34 PM

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you gotta break the work down

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and oof

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stay safe yo 🙂

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make sure you DO have n95s

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:34 PM

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I have a couple, just haven't used them yet

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:34 PM

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you're in the group that doesnt get to feel guilty ordering them

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i have a bag from the last fires in CA

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they're like a standard household item now in CA

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we were lucky everyone has masks it seems

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:34 PM

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I mean the asthma is kind of exercise/allergy induced and hasn't come up in years. Last time it was remotely bad was in high school, and I was really pushing myself in gym class

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:34 PM

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i have only given one away to another friend so we could do PC work together since he's as much of a shut in gamer as i am

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:35 PM

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A couple years ago I ran a 5K and had zero issues

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:35 PM

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mine is daily and i take inhailer steroids for it as well as albuterol

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cannabis also helps with the right mixture of terpenes and cannabinoids

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:35 PM

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ahh that sounds a lot worse. I have albuterol but it might even be expired because I haven't touched it in years

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:35 PM

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some terpenes are irritants but both THC and CBD are bronchiodilators

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and yea

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when i got h1n1 i got like REALLY sick

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:35 PM

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I'm pretty sure smoking anything would trigger it for me lol

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oh no 😦

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:35 PM

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and i might have some cytokine damage

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my breathing wasnt as good after

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im not terrible but i get bronchitis/pneumonia symptoms easily

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even before

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:36 PM

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that kind of happens when I get sick, and breathing slowly recovers over time. still not bad though

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:36 PM

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so yea, folding is a big deal to me lol

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it could also be all the weed, but i use vaporized oils through a PID temp controlled electric piece

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so its really true medicine

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:36 PM

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there are other projects too like rosetta @ home, although that's CPU only

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:37 PM

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i want to see some cannabis proteins someday

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we don't fully understand the THC receptors

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:37 PM

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hopefully they'll research that

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:37 PM

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and how they react

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and cbd as well et all

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:37 PM

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my biggest curiosity is how far they can get with FAH, vs a supercomputer, given the node size restrictions

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:37 PM

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rosetta is cool but its hard to manage threading

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it spawns a WU per thread

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you have to set a % to use of your CPU

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:37 PM

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they don't thread, you grab as many WUs as you have cores for

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:37 PM

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yea basically thats what i meant

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a WU per thread

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not just per core

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if you have an 8/16 it spawns 16 threads

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individual WUs

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:38 PM

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yup

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:38 PM

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all the BOINC programs seem to

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seti@home was the same way

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before they finished

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:38 PM

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eh, I hope it's not some fundamental restriction

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they really should thread WUs out if they can

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:38 PM

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they don't have any QRB really

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its just move work as fast as you can

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get points

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and you will have idle time it seems like

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:39 PM

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yeah, never looked at the scoring system for bionic

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:39 PM

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milkyway@home always is slow to send new work

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so the PC idles some

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:39 PM

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honestly haven't looked much at FAH's scoring system either

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:39 PM

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afaik it's fairly static but they may have changed it

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:39 PM

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I just complete WUs and don't care much about scores

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:39 PM

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one thing i know is doubling your processing pwoer definitely nets you more than double the points because of how QRB is structured

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i only do because i use it as a bar for how my setup compares to others

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and i like to be on top xD

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i'd rather others step up too but really very few people end up with more than 1 PC with 1 decent GPU on the network

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:40 PM

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I'd want raw numbers for comparisons, but that's hard to come by

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I've been trying to measure floating point throughput on my 3950X with hardware counters when running FAH, but I haven't done the same on any other hardware

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:40 PM

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i can do it on 1060 3gb vs 6gb, 1070, 980ti, 2060, 2080ti, and i have a friend with 2070 super and another with 1080ti and a vega 64, and i also have the 5700xt and rx580 both for AMD side

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we can do a doubling comparison sometime clam

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send me a list of WUs you've done in DM with the PPD avg at the end or any time during it that seems fairly consistent

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i will find the same WU on my 3800x when i can and see how it compares

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:41 PM

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I think even within each project, WUs tend to vary a lot

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:41 PM

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you have exactly 2x the cores on the same arch so its a good comparison

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:41 PM

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I also power limit my 3950X fo better efficiency

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:41 PM

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i don't think so at all they all seem the same

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ah for sure

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yea i dont

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im on water cooling

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going for max turbo on this PC

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:42 PM

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well same, but I just prefer efficiency

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:42 PM

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i feel it

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makes sense with that many cores

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that also explains the PPD

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:42 PM

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4+ GHz at 1.3v is inefficient compared to 3.5 at like 1.1v or 3 ghz at 0.9

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if I just run at stock, my PPD estimate was 452005 for project 16411

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for the 3950x

frozen oxide May 1, 2020, 3:47 PM

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^ and on the GPU side you get the most efficiency with most GPU's between 55 and 70% power limit

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:50 PM

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sounds about right

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:50 PM

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that sounds about right

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:50 PM

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I generally look at voltages to see where it stops sharply increasing

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:51 PM

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thats about what i get on a 1060

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let me look waht im doing now

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lol im on 14647 project doing 97kppd

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i peak out around 145k tho

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on some

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im using 12 of 16 threads for CPU time

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it uses about 80% CPU time and it keeps turbos higher on the cores that are working

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it also still hits total TDP max that way xD

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nvm im actually not at TDP max rn

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:53 PM

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for that 450k ppd I was using all 32 threads

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 3:53 PM

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weary epoch May 1, 2020, 3:54 PM

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normally I use a 71W PPT, then turn down TDC/EDC further to get power below 70W

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versus stock

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brittle coral May 1, 2020, 4:03 PM

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i still haven't fi gured out how to get the software to let me edit the values

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lol

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hey brb, i found the auto overclocking hahaha

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 4:05 PM

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PBO?

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I underclock with PBO lol

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 4:07 PM

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nope when you go to profiles you can pick to auto overclock and it asked me to reboot to do it

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but idk if it did much

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 4:07 PM

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oh

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yeah never tried that. I'm guessing it tries some settings, runs a stability test, and if it passes, yay

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but I'm less interested in overclocking than efficiency. stock already pushes the CPU very far

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 4:08 PM

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yea its basically the same i think

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x42 multi lol

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it did change the OC max tho in hwinfo 64

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by 100mhz

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 4:13 PM

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probably a lot more voltage for that extra 100 MHz

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I like my 0.97v and 3.3 GHz

frozen oxide May 1, 2020, 4:15 PM

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I must have a good sample, at least my CCD1 can do 0.98v and 3.7ghz

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my ccd2 is nowhere near as good tho

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 4:16 PM

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probably varies a lot on workload too. FAH does a lot of floating point stuff and probably draws more power

frozen oxide May 1, 2020, 4:16 PM

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yeah that was on prime95

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I decided not to cpu fold - my 3950x is in a mini-ITX machine it just eventually heat soaks

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 4:17 PM

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why not power limit it?

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I have a 240mm clc so it works relatively well

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 4:17 PM

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hey clam guess what

frozen oxide May 1, 2020, 4:17 PM

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it has a 280 CLC on it but

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because my GPU folding per watt is something like 5x the points

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 4:17 PM

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but no GPU WUs :/

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 4:17 PM

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its here

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 4:17 PM

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I mean if I could keep a GPU fed I wouldn't bother CPU folding anything lol

frozen oxide May 1, 2020, 4:17 PM

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I haven't folded in 2 weeks anyway my house is under construction

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too much dust, everything is powered down and covered up

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 4:18 PM

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ah

frozen oxide May 1, 2020, 4:19 PM

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buut before I stopped this was my dedicated folding setup

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 4:19 PM

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nice and open air

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noctua fan on top of a tower cooler looks funny though, I would have just turned the tower away from the GPU so it could breathe

frozen oxide May 1, 2020, 4:20 PM

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VRM clearance issues

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 4:20 PM

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oh rip

frozen oxide May 1, 2020, 4:20 PM

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about 4.5 million ppd indicated, and an i3 was only just barely keeping both GPU fed 😛

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 4:20 PM

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oh an i3...a low profile cooler could probably deal with that

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especially if it's just feeding GPUs

frozen oxide May 1, 2020, 4:21 PM

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it could but that would cost more than an aliexpress snowman

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unless I found one in a bin somewhere at some e-recycling, but with lockdown restrictions where am I gonna do that

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 4:21 PM

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lol right

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 4:22 PM

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frozen oxide May 1, 2020, 4:22 PM

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I actually tried a 3rd GPU with a mining riser and it actually lowered my PPD

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because the i3 couldn't feed all 3

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Lol yea

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One core per Nvidia GPU

frozen oxide May 1, 2020, 4:23 PM

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on that 3.6ghz i3 it's more than one core

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it's the majority of two cores

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like 55-70% each on 2 cores per GPU

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so it's very nearly full utilization to feed both GPUs

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 4:28 PM

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I wonder why nvidia gpus behave like that

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pegging one CPU thread just to feed a GPU

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 4:35 PM

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idk

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AMD doesnt using openCL but it's also less efficient

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my guess is there's some level of ALU math that i also needs

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to perform at its highest

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who knows tho cept the programmers

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alright

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5700xt is into the rig in the garage with rx580

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folding on a 4590

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slowest CPU i got and AMD DGAF

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installing drivers ^_^

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i'll deal with hard drives later once i sleep

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im just glad i stayed awake till this arrived cause it came quite early in the day

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also at this rate i may go out to get myself a bottle of something for later lol

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 4:43 PM

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they both use opencl afaik

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even for nvidia

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 4:45 PM

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yea

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but like

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idk

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maybe there's some magic cuda boost

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the cores are different in some way as well

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between both

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like the core is all encompassing but the hacks for each GPU are not the same

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ait

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its all set up

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now im just waiting on work lmao

hushed bobcat May 1, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Nice

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 4:50 PM

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yup

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my bet is this card is faster than an entire rig out in the garage but in one slot

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faster than a 2060 and 2 1060s xD

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and the 2600x as well with 3 of it's cores available

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hah i got to getting a work server and letting it know what hardware was open and the server didnt respond again

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rip

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damn servers are getting pounded

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its all the PCMR kids with slower rigs but there's shit tons of them xD

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 5:09 PM

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it sure would be nice if i could get a WU on the 2080ti before i go to sleep xD

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just to watch the fans spin up

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HAH, valve wants to do the hardware survey tho just in time for this

weary epoch May 1, 2020, 5:10 PM

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at least CPU WUs are always around

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 5:10 PM

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yea lol this is true

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https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

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this is the current steam survey btw

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im loading up witcher 3 for a second

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just to check it out FPS wise

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not bad, fps maxed out at 100, avg 85-90, in the small area i was in, temps topped out at 69c

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aayyyyyy

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there it is

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on the lower end of what i expected but not a bad start

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up to 2.2m now 🙂

hushed bobcat May 1, 2020, 5:41 PM

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BUS Usage?

brittle coral May 1, 2020, 5:56 PM

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max 36

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right now 0

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it basically isnt using the bus at all

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idk if thats wrong somehow though

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right now 0

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very confused lol

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its cozy tho at 70c lol

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2.4mppd average rn, keeps going up

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im just gonna sleep and see what it does to my charts at the end of the day lol

serene fossil May 1, 2020, 6:10 PM

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anyone having issues with fah client core not responding?

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happens every time i get a gpu WU

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just removed gpu and it still happens so idk whats going on

gaunt wasp May 1, 2020, 6:16 PM

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I fold the proteins that look like africaaaaa

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This work unit is so huge that I’ve decided to finish 2 of the 4 slots & let the two big mammas split the processors.

fickle needle May 1, 2020, 6:52 PM

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and here we thought Corona came from Chine, when here it obviously shows Greenland

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dum dum dummmm

onyx canopy May 1, 2020, 10:14 PM

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1M from top 6k LTT :D

gaunt wasp May 1, 2020, 10:15 PM

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“Cause: covid-19

This is the first COVID19 project from our lab. We are assembling the envelope protein, which is an ion channel important for viral function. Learning about how it forms can inform the design of molecules that will prevent proper assembly.“

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Project 16801

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It’s a beast of a work unit.

silver wing May 2, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Hey everyone, would be great if you could all help out in the BOINC pentathlon Marathon event. It's Rosetta@Home and is also COVID-19 research but is CPU only so you will be able to balance running FAH and BOINC at the same time. Marathon starts in 3 days.

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All you need to do is install BOINC, add the Rosetta project and join LinusTechTips_Team for your Rosetta account, that's it. No individual event signup required or forum account (but there is a nice topic you can join in on there).

brittle coral May 2, 2020, 2:10 AM

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ping me personally before it starts leadeater okay @silver wing

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i'll set it to run on my 2600x and 3800x for those 3 days instead of covid WUs

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also the 4590 rig i just set up if it's not using to much CPU, its running AMD GPUs atm but it'd still only have 3 threads to run WUs on

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2600x has more threads fortunately lol

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btw it looks like running RTX voice does slow down F@H a bit

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im running it right now for the last hour and a half and my PPD dropped a bit toward the end of this WU

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actually nvm, the WU is just lower scoring as well, i looked at my browser tab and it still had it at 30% instead of 96% and it's e ven lower then from before i started RTX voice

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it DGAF xD

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@weary epoch you have a 3950x you should make sure to fire up rosetta as well when it's time

weary epoch May 2, 2020, 2:15 AM

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ah yeah I should probably set that up....though my 3950x is mostly compensating for lack of GPU WUs

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for fah

brittle coral May 2, 2020, 2:15 AM

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doesn't really matter, its covid research all the way down m8

weary epoch May 2, 2020, 2:16 AM

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FAH is a lot more FPU heavy, and I like giving my FPUs exercise lol

brittle coral May 2, 2020, 2:16 AM

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just for a few days at least for the competition lol

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fair xD

stark bough May 2, 2020, 8:52 AM

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I fold the proteins that look like africaaaaa
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brittle coral May 2, 2020, 1:53 PM

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anyone having a lot of trouble now getting work today?

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i went from full tilt to basically 100% idle

brittle coral May 2, 2020, 2:10 PM

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i had to go refresh all my slots cause a bunch of em apparently rolled over to like 4 hours between attempts while i was gaming lol

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few of em are okay now but the 2060 and 1070 are both idle

misty vigil May 2, 2020, 4:46 PM

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i have a problem with one of my unraid servers, it has two p400 and the gpu slots constantly fail.. this persists for a cupple days now, but did not have time to investigate much.. anyone an idea?

gaunt wasp May 2, 2020, 5:27 PM

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@misty vigil The GPU slots appear in the list of slots?

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If your GPU is not eligible to use with folding, adding them won’t work.

misty vigil May 2, 2020, 5:52 PM

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yes, it already worked for weeks

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i'm not sure, but that problem may have occured with the last docker container update..

outer monolith May 2, 2020, 7:45 PM

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what cpu u got damnn

misty vigil May 2, 2020, 7:52 PM

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@outer monolith you mean me? does it matter what cpu i use when the gpu does not work?

main mist May 2, 2020, 7:56 PM

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It's nice to know what CPU

misty vigil May 2, 2020, 7:56 PM

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a xeon e3-1245 v2

rich depot May 2, 2020, 11:51 PM

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fickle needle May 2, 2020, 11:59 PM

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upgraded to 7.6.9, now my FAHclient is stuck trying to upload one workunit and grab another

brittle coral May 3, 2020, 12:44 AM

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thats not the client

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thats someone's server

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ive had WU doing that for a while

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one got stuck for 3 days

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so much for that QRB lol

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@outer monolith i was asleep, replied in DM but saw you put it here first so, 3800x, 2600k, 8350k, and 4590. but the 8350k isn't folding and the 2600x is limited to 3 cores

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my main slots are the 2080ti, 2060, and rx5700xt, and there's an RX580, 1070, 980ti, 2 p106-100, and a 1060 3gb. Also setting up a friend with an old 290x and gonna fold on it

brittle coral May 3, 2020, 1:15 AM

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@misty vigil he did DM me asking after since it was unclear lol.

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once everything is said and done there will be 2 4590s as well cause one is in a friend's rig

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we just lost a 4790k delid to 4 of the pins mysteriously vaporizing without any carbon scoring so here we are buying ultra cheap refurbs xD, decided to get a 2nd since i had some GPUs about to be without a home

storm talon May 3, 2020, 3:03 AM

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anyone know how to get nvidia grid k2's folding?

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been struggling

hushed bobcat May 3, 2020, 3:32 AM

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most forum posts say they arent supported

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but those are older

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like 2016

storm talon May 3, 2020, 5:26 AM

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yea

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I couldn't get em goin on hashcat or folding

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my buddy had high hopes, but they just didn't work no matter what driver I tried

hushed bobcat May 3, 2020, 5:52 AM

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ohh

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GRID is different than TESLA

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yea i dont think GRID will work ever unfortunatly

main mist May 3, 2020, 6:05 AM

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GRID K2 cards are meant for GPU passthrough thats all and they need a special nvidia license to be used for passthrough

brittle coral May 3, 2020, 7:10 AM

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so i have some interesting data

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it turns out that on older chips (it 4590) even AMD cards use a fair bit of CPU time

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i had to delete my CPU slot because i need 12-18% per GPU

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12-18% on an it 4590, to be fair, lol

golden fulcrum May 3, 2020, 8:18 AM

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I removed my CPU slot altogether as the GPUs used up 50% of my 5930K, so yeah... best to work on at least 1 thread per GPU at a minimum.

brittle coral May 3, 2020, 10:32 AM

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lol yea

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so the 290x gets like 220kppd on the wU it got first. just about to finish

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its running super cool tho lol, accellero xtreme iii did it's job

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good it looks like the next WU on the 290x will be about twice as fast lol

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@golden fulcrum this is what my bench looks like testing this motherboard lol

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The rig is going back in a case with only the last GPU, then the board in the box under this one is getting put with the same model cpu when my ram gets here in another case with the other 2 GPUs. They're fast enough to feed AMD GPUs at least lol

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I could even riser out a 4th with this board it has another slot but its being used for a 4x riser to an m2 on a card, thats what's on the blank IO shield

ebon lodge May 3, 2020, 1:10 PM

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rip I had F@H running overnight and forgot to open my window and my PC case's vents to try to help it keep cool for that hard load and came back with the case's metal on the outside feeling very hot to the touch

brittle coral May 3, 2020, 1:12 PM

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das a big oof

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you needa get you a lil blue boy (TM)

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1200cfm max but still moves a couple hundred on low to clear the whole case lol

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80 bucks, or about the same as 3 of the $30 noctua 120mm fans but after tax

proven marlin May 3, 2020, 1:13 PM

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I could use one of those. Right now having three computers crunching BOINC is making my computer room very toasty

brittle coral May 3, 2020, 1:14 PM

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i have 4 waiting for 2 more

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they also make a bigger green one that does 1200cfm on low

proven marlin May 3, 2020, 1:14 PM

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nice

brittle coral May 3, 2020, 1:14 PM

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3200 high

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IDK WHERE MINE IS

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So irritiated

proven marlin May 3, 2020, 1:14 PM

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my big issue is being in Florida. Already in this lovely Spring weather......darn 80F+/26.6C+

ebon lodge May 3, 2020, 1:16 PM

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My case has a lot of padding for containing noise and does a good job of it but with this synthetic load it just helps to open that top vent right above the CPU fan

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But with the window closed the room just filled with hot air anyway too lol

brittle coral May 3, 2020, 1:20 PM

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@proven marlin thats why i always just put everything on water when i start doing high load stuff

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i took a break for a while and did an all air build with my RX580 and 8350k, but then when i started folding i put water back on the CPU and then i decided to blow a load on that 2080ti and the water block is on its way lol

proven marlin May 3, 2020, 1:21 PM

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Uh.........I have done water, it don't lower the heat in a room

brittle coral May 3, 2020, 1:21 PM

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in theory that loop can handle like 4 GPUs once i put the 4th radiator in

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yea but it allows the parts to live

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instead of sitting at 95c

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and i have the rig in a window

proven marlin May 3, 2020, 1:22 PM

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No issues with parts staying good on temps

brittle coral May 3, 2020, 1:22 PM

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so it gets cool air intake when its not to hot outside

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some day im going to get a 480x480 thick radiator

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just put it in the window as exhaust

proven marlin May 3, 2020, 1:22 PM

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Currently got big noctuas on the threadrippers

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And my 1080Ti is sitting at around 55C

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All air cooled

brittle coral May 3, 2020, 1:23 PM

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i used to do a 480x480 in my window for intake before i put a box fan in it (was quieter and moved a lot of air, voltage controlled and everything to adjust speed, but expensive for fans @ 20bucks x16 + tax)

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yea my 2080ti is happy, but i figured why skimp lol

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it is gonna get a lot hotter than it is now

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im going to take the loop you see there, add a second stint off the res with a second d5 and radiator on their own section, but still take advantage of all the other radiator capacity thats in the loop already which is overkill for the CPU, without relooping the rest xD

proven marlin May 3, 2020, 1:26 PM

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I do have water blocks, but since the air coolers are doing plenty. I haven't bother putting a loop in. Though, want to talk about toasty on a GPU. I use to run a 7970 crunching 24/7 with temps in the mid to high 70C with just air cooling.

brittle coral May 3, 2020, 3:04 PM

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WAKE UP. server? SERVER!

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this is the WU i did on my 2080ti while gaming today and now it's literally taken longer to try and send it than it took to run it even going slow with the game taking most of the processing time

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in other news, opened up the power envelope on my 2080ti since temps were super stable on it in the 60s (now sitting at 70c at 112% power envelope), gonna see how it turbos now lol

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it seems to be happy sitting at 1800mhz turbo with some base core boost as well lol

brittle coral May 3, 2020, 3:42 PM

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sooooo

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it turns out that my 5700xt really likes having a second slot

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that's good to know

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it wasnt getting fully utilized in the metrics and i put another slot on it and it's still at the same % but the 2nd slot is getting almost 500kppd with no loss in gain to the 1st slot o_O

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which was doing about 700k on the WU it was on

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das a big boost thats like as much as a 1060 or an rx580 lol

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welp, nevermind, it lied. it said it was at like 3% but it just reset to 10% with a 16 hour window to close lol rip

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at least the other WU isn't slowing down any

silver wing May 4, 2020, 2:32 AM

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So no actual gain in PPD?

plain linden May 4, 2020, 3:09 AM

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sitting here wondering why my feet are cold. both cpu and gpu are waiting on projects.

brittle coral May 4, 2020, 3:09 AM

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nope @silver wing nada

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and i just errored a WU testing overclocks on my 2080ti and it didn't try to restart from a save point and im pissed 😦 it was almost done. it always reloaded from a save before sending the WU back in the past

rich depot May 4, 2020, 5:04 AM

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why are there a lot of cpu tasks but not gpu

marble quartz May 4, 2020, 5:52 AM

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afaik gpu works on protein dynamics or something, cpu works on interaction of a drug towards the virus

stark bough May 4, 2020, 6:03 AM

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https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/Mo3RSLjyV1UwdPliC597OIqAJ4j9oYEMNUKWrg7fX5Y/https/i.redd.it/keb7w669ngw41.jpg?width=915&height=915

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Time to increase my PPD

fickle needle May 4, 2020, 6:03 AM

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oh damn

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I want to fill my house with them now

stark bough May 4, 2020, 6:04 AM

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https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/sNyGp4VG7_TF4J3WdUAvT3JwXZn4ldIhH91a8wzycUw/https/i.redd.it/entqu5vuhjw41.jpg

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Animal Crossing Goals

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https://villagerdb.com/item/server-room-wall

Server-room Wall | Animal Crossing Item and Villager Database - Vil...

Server-room Wall can be found in New Horizons.

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 8:26 AM

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closing in on the top 500 🙂

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@brittle coral

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😱

brittle coral May 4, 2020, 8:32 AM

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yea lol

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im aware

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ive been in the top 20 for a couple weeks now

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i just had my highest day ever and i was gaming on the 2080ti through it (just cause 4)

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also it looks like this wet of WU is finally out of beta (there was a bug with 13400 going out to advanced users before the core update was available as well)

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several of em are out on my slots rn 🙂

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basically all my slots are running that WU lol dang

silver wing May 4, 2020, 9:17 AM

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@brittle coral BOINC event starts in about 9 hours

brittle coral May 4, 2020, 9:40 AM

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ill set things up before i go to sleep then

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shit i should set up this 4590 system tonight then, i have the motherboard CPU and RAM, just need to move GPUs around xD

silver wing May 4, 2020, 10:03 AM

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Sorry 14 hours not 9, math fail lol

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I R SMRT

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https://www.seti-germany.de/boinc_pentathlon/start.php

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best part is i didn't need to math it at all

brittle coral May 4, 2020, 10:29 AM

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well i should still start it by the time i go to bed either way.

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in other news @silver wing it looks like with my 2080ti i can fold at 1.7mppd while still getting 45-50FPS in just cause 4 XD. this game doesnt take much to run unless you're at super high res

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it recommends a 1080ti for 4k and i have much much more power than that available and im only at 2k fortunately

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really interesting seeing how some games you can get impressive performance still while playing at playable FPS

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this is basically a suped up console game with DX11.1 effects and stuff that help with optimization lol

silver wing May 4, 2020, 10:34 AM

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That is one of the benefits of Turing over Pascal, hardware async compute and switching pipelines doesn't stall

brittle coral May 4, 2020, 10:40 AM

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yea lol

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my only complaint is that RTX voice seems to take a CPU thread to run itself even if it's sitting idle in the background

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and it uses a gig of ram but i have 32 so thats nbd

misty vigil May 4, 2020, 2:12 PM

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i found, that a clean new install of the client version 7.6.9 does not accept any gpu

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if it wasn't already known?

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i had to go back to 7.5.1 to get it working with my gpus again

brittle coral May 4, 2020, 2:23 PM

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yea

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its known

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install 7.6.9 over 7.5.1 for proper feature support and slots xD

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once you install 7.5.1 open it first so it generates the slots, once that's done you can install 7.6.9 and add more slots as well later as needed

misty vigil May 4, 2020, 2:24 PM

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ok, that might be working for windows installations, but apparently not for an unraid docker container

lucid plinth May 4, 2020, 6:58 PM

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quick question about bionic does it use GPU as well bhecause it just seems to use CPU

misty vigil May 4, 2020, 7:08 PM

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afaik it only uses cpu

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but i might be corrected

lucid plinth May 4, 2020, 7:38 PM

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ah kk

fair gazelle May 4, 2020, 8:19 PM

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i have 1.6k points yay

small current May 4, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Oh no I have not been folding for a few weeks

undone dust May 4, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Need more power. I need the 10 V100s in another rack.

small current May 4, 2020, 9:03 PM

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Need more power, I only have 8ghz total

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2ghz 4t

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No boost

green nymph May 4, 2020, 10:41 PM

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is boinc website down?

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:18 PM

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is this the correct tab to ask about why my system keeps freezing on me even when i put the gpu at 50%?

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for folding

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or do i go to tech support?

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I have a geforce gtx 1070, i7 7700k 4.20GHz, 64GB ram, a h110 cooler. I have msi afterburner where i put the gpu at 50% and the folding at home is at medium power. but no matter what i do it will constantly freeze up on me when i leave it over night

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:28 PM

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temps? are you overclocked at all? (CPU, RAM, Or GPU)

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whats the make and model of your Power Supply?

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:33 PM

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i dont OC unless folding makes it happen?

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hold on let me pull the machine out

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:33 PM

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well at 4.2 i guess the 7700k is stock

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:34 PM

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when i ordered it 5 years ago it said its OC ready. and my power supply is a seasonic 750

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:35 PM

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hmm that is more than good enough

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do you know if you have XMP enabled?

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:36 PM

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i should but how do i check for that?

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:36 PM

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CPU-Z will tell you your Memory Profiles on the SPD tab

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and the speed you're currently running at in the Memory Tab

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:37 PM

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is there a way to do it with out adding more software?

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:38 PM

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windows task manager MIGHT tell you your RAM speed

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or go into the BIOS

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(BTW CPU-z has a standalone so you dont actually install anything)

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:39 PM

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task manager always tells me im using about 6gb no matter how much i fold andor game

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yet it also shows i have 60 gbs remaining that im not using (i have 4 16gb sticks in)

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:40 PM

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digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:40 PM

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hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:40 PM

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ahh 2200 MHz

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kind of an odd frequency

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would expect either 2133 or 2400

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looks like you're running 4.8 GHz on the CPU

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at 92%

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I would like to see your temps

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:42 PM

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im folding right now but its only gpu. so dont know why the cpu is up there

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:42 PM

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you must have a CPU Work Unit

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can you screenshot your advanced control?

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:42 PM

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hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:43 PM

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woah

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1.39V Vcore

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HAHAHAHA

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you are pushing to much voltage

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:43 PM

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yeah can we hold on making fun of my build for a min?

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:44 PM

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on a 7700k 1.3 should be pretty much max

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:44 PM

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im still trying to learn more about all this

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:44 PM

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also i see on Temp 2 you are 92C

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that could be package temp

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but im concerned its VRM temp

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especially since you have an AiO and are pushing a ton of voltage into the cpu

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:45 PM

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yeah i didn't touch any of the cpu settings

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so idk whats going on about it

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:45 PM

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ahh

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:45 PM

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but i know the freezing is from the gpu not the cpu

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:45 PM

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you have an asus MOBO

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it has Multi-Core Enhancement on

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most likely

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:46 PM

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isnt that a good thing?

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:46 PM

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if you have enough cooling it gives a big boost to performance

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:47 PM

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ok so then goes back to me question before, what can i do the stop the constant freezing at night when i am trying to fold at 50% gpu power and medium folding power

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:48 PM

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your GPU is probably fine, its your CPU that's the issue

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btw Light, Medium, and Full Folding power dont affect the GPU at all

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except at Light it wont use the GPU

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:49 PM

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ok so what should i do?

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:49 PM

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those only affect the amount of threads F@H uses

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:49 PM

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ok thank you for that information

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:49 PM

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i would go into the BIOS and turn off ASUS Multi-Core enhancement

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also check and see if your CPU voltage is set to a specific number or Auto

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:50 PM

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i can check that in bios as well?

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:51 PM

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its the only place to check that specifically

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Everything is on auto

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:53 PM

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alright then turn Multi-Core to disabled

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do you have an option for SVID?

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Cpu svid support: auto

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:54 PM

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should have options like "Worst case scenerio" or Typical Scenerio"

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Only shows auto, disable, or enable for svid

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:55 PM

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hmm different than i expected

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I have an 8700k on an ASUS board

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well just save and exit

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i would like to see the temps and voltage when you get started back up

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im hoping they are about 0.1V and 15C less

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ohh right

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dont forget the usual stuff of making sure your Drivers are all up to date

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windows is updated

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etc

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:57 PM

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Yeah i checked on those already lol i know the basics like that at least xP

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:57 PM

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you update the BIOS?

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:57 PM

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Umm but before i leave the bios, is there anything i should do for the ram? Or are those ok.

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I can update it again

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:58 PM

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since everything is on auto I would leave it

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as long as you're on the latest BIOS

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im baffled as to why ASUS would pump that much voltage into a 7700k

golden fulcrum May 4, 2020, 11:58 PM

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@digital phoenix Did you overclock this yourself, or buy it already so?

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:58 PM

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i know mobo manufactures have to errr on the side of caution

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Bought it from microcenter already so

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:59 PM

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@golden fulcrum everything is on auto

digital phoenix May 4, 2020, 11:59 PM

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No no sorry

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Bought it from new egg

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:59 PM

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so this is a factory MOBO overclock

golden fulcrum May 4, 2020, 11:59 PM

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that's massive voltage for auto.

hushed bobcat May 4, 2020, 11:59 PM

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yea i know

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i pushed 1.4 when I was going for 5.1 GHz on my 8700k.....

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@digital phoenix if the voltage is still high after the reboot we will have to start tuning it down manually

golden fulcrum May 5, 2020, 12:02 AM

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good luck with things, I'd be doing a deep dive into the CPU settings to find out what else is pushing that thing so high, auto for voltage is great... but something else is pushing it up high (CPU ratio? etc)

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:02 AM

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still showing 1.38 on vcpu

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let me close everything and pause the folding

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:02 AM

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voltage will change based on load

golden fulcrum May 5, 2020, 12:03 AM

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what's the mobo model exactly?

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:03 AM

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the folding is what is pulling so much

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:03 AM

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i would like to see idle voltage and load voltage

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its not F@H fault

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:03 AM

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hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:04 AM

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if you load any program that puts that much load on the CPU it will run at that voltage

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:04 AM

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this is now with folding paused

golden fulcrum May 5, 2020, 12:04 AM

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nvm. just saw. Strix 270E Gaming

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:04 AM

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wow

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idling at 45-50C

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on an H110 AiO

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:04 AM

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hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:04 AM

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if you had any less of a cooler your CPU would be on fire

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:05 AM

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funny enough i did for about 2 weeks with a regular tower dual fan

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:05 AM

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can i get a pic of your frequency in task manager?

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:05 AM

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on idle sure hold on

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:05 AM

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at idle and folding on please

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:06 AM

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sure hold one

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hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:07 AM

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what

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you sure the setting saved in the BIOS?

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:07 AM

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yep

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:08 AM

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you are still running 4.8 all core

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all core should be 4.2

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4.4 tops

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:09 AM

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i can go back into bios but im sure i hit f10 save

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even said multi from auto to disabled

golden fulcrum May 5, 2020, 12:09 AM

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What were your CPU core ratios?

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:09 AM

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that should do it....

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:10 AM

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ah damn i saw that too but dont remember let me get back to you

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:10 AM

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can you take a pic with your phone of the BIOS and upload it here?

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:11 AM

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golden fulcrum May 5, 2020, 12:11 AM

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core ratio limits are probably way up

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:11 AM

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voltage is down around normal in the BIOS

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btw @digital phoenix you cut off the ratios we needed

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they are on the left

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:12 AM

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hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:12 AM

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@golden fulcrum you think AISuite is cranking up voltage?

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uhh

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thats a 4.8 GHz OC

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manually done

golden fulcrum May 5, 2020, 12:12 AM

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possibly. I'd lose AiSuite, total uninstall and just run CPU-z or something.

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:13 AM

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Guess thats what i bought lol

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:13 AM

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with a 0 AVX offset to boot

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hmm

golden fulcrum May 5, 2020, 12:13 AM

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yep. absolutely killing that CPU

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:13 AM

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maybe reset BIOS to default settings

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and go back in

golden fulcrum May 5, 2020, 12:14 AM

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if AVX used in CPU crunching, it'd lock it up as it's too much stress on the CPU

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:14 AM

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it does

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F@H is AVX2

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i had to manually re-do my OC because of it

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I'm worried his VRM's were overheating @golden fulcrum

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with an AiO and pushing that much power into the CPU for hours on end....

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Not hours, i resorted to doing one WU a day

golden fulcrum May 5, 2020, 12:16 AM

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good luck, I've gotta go out, but good to see you've found what may well be the issue

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:16 AM

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When it goes well id push for 2

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Thanks for the help @golden fulcrum

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:17 AM

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well you're also pushing alot of power when the cpu is idle

golden fulcrum May 5, 2020, 12:17 AM

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that's ok, glad to help.

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Ok so before i do anything, what exactly is the AVX? And cant i just put it to 2?

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:18 AM

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AVX is an instruction set

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normally used for serious number crunching

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:19 AM

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Which isnt folding doing?

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:19 AM

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and AVX workload puts out alot more heat than a non AVX workload

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normally

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which is why you have an AVX offset

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@digital phoenix yes folding is an AVX workload

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and yes you could set it to 2

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that would bring your frequency down to 4.6 when folding

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but that would not solve your problem

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your main issue is your MOBO is pumping way to much power into your CPU

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well atleast in my opinion

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:21 AM

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I think its because i put the fan control on what i thought was the aio pins but the bios is showing hamp

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Ugg sorry

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Hate samsung phones

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hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:22 AM

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thank you

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umm

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you said XMP was off

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its very much on

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or is this after you loaded defaults?

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:23 AM

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I guess it was on, my bad.

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Ill disable it

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:24 AM

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can you set everything to default?

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you can save your current profile first if you want

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that way you can go back to it

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:25 AM

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I never made a profile so guess it shouldnt bother me. So ill disable the xmp and reset everything to default?

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:25 AM

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reset everything first

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that will change XMP to off

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well it should

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id like you to go back into the BIOS right after

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might have you go into the advanced BIOS as well

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much more useful info in the Advanced BIOS

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:26 AM

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K

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Ok bios is up again

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:28 AM

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are you still in EZ mode?

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or is it advanced now?

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if your still in EZ mode hit F7

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Its till loads up ez mode, went to advanced

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:29 AM

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can i get a pic of the Main tab and the Overclock tuner tab?

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:29 AM

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hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:30 AM

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uhh thats the same pic twice?

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ohh you re took it because some was cutoff

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:30 AM

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Yeah

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📎 JPEG_20200504_203050.jpg

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:31 AM

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now THOSE are default settings 🙂

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Lol thanks, and i now saw that i havent updated the bios

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:32 AM

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could you find a memory speed setting and give me a pic of the dropdown list?

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2200 MHz is soo oddball

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literally never seen RAM run at that

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well it says Target is 2133 which is normal

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but its actually running at 2193

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which isnt

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its almost like your Base Clock is OC'd

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but that shouldn't be since you just reset everything

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just looked at the last pic again

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its a bit blurry but i think BCLCK says 100.0

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which is correct

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Yep

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Thats correct and i cant seem to find the memory speed settings

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:35 AM

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you might have to change the first setting "AI Overclock Tuner" to manual

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honestly it seems fine

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your Target DRAM is correct anyway

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first thing i would do is update your BIOS

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that board is EOL so when you update it you probably wont ever have to update it again

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Haha ok

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:36 AM

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then after you update i would load defaults 1 more time

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make sure it saves

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and boot up

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after that we'll have another look at your temps and voltage at idle and under load

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Ok, and stupid question but to update the bios i need to save the updated bios on a flash drive and boot it from the flash drive temporaly?

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:41 AM

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you have to get the new BIOS file from ASUS's website

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save it on a flash drive

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usually the drive has to be FAT32 formatted

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NTFS MIGHT be fine

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then you go into the BIOS and select the BIOS updater utility

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i think its under the TOOL tab in the Advanced BIOS

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this may be obvious but dont do this in a thunderstorm unless you have a UPS......

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if you lose power during the flash it will brick your board

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digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Thankfully its a clear day today

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And its on a basic ups

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:45 AM

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as long as it can keep the PC on for a few min without power that's great

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:49 AM

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do i need to unzip the folder before i go back into bios?

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:49 AM

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yes

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it can be in a folder

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but not zipped

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actually

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:50 AM

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ok just unzipped

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:50 AM

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i dont think ive ever tried

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so zip might work

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:50 AM

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haha ill keep both on the flash

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:50 AM

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but unzip defiantly will

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:51 AM

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vcpu is jumping from 0.85 to 1.2

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just to let you know

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:51 AM

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in the BIOS?

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or in Windows downloading the new BIOS?

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:52 AM

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No in windows

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:52 AM

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thats already much better

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i think 1.2 or 1.25 is stock

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:53 AM

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I could of updated it via the internet.

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:53 AM

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BIOS is always the preferred method

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well IMO

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actually....

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I had a SuperMicro Server motherboard that required me to boot into FreeDOS to update the BIOS

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:56 AM

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Ok bios updated

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:57 AM

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sweet

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actually there is kind of a funny story about that SuperMicro board, buts its a little off topic here

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Yeah i go off tangents too. But should i put the avx to 2 as well or keep it at 0?

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 12:58 AM

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umm for now lets leave everything stock

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you are only at 4.5 now

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so you're still 300 MHz less than before

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and you do have a very good Cooler

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the only bad thing about AVX is it puts off more heat, if you can manage the heat then there is no problem

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 1:00 AM

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Ok thank you very much for all this. Have this computer for 5 years. Surprised i didnt melt the cpu at this point

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 1:00 AM

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np

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well gaming you probably wouldn't notice really

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but you are putting out more heat than you should

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basically just a waste

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Yeah and i didnt even know of it till now

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So now i should be freezing as i have folding running over night?

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 1:02 AM

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ideally you Shouldn't be freezing anymore

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 1:03 AM

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hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 1:03 AM

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but yes you should be able to leave folding on 24/7 with the only con being an increased power bill and more heat in the room

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 1:03 AM

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folding is running in this pic

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 1:03 AM

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you dropped 20-24C on your Cores

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thats a number....

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 1:04 AM

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haha that it is

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my cpu is probably thanking me, and i was just about to throw the whole machine out the window

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Well i'd let it run for now

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 1:05 AM

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hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 1:05 AM

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just use the PC like normal

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if you have problems in games you can manually reduce the amount of threads assigned to the F@H CPU Slot

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or just pause F@H

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 1:06 AM

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so far didn't have any problems in gaming but these new numbers look much better thank you again

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 1:06 AM

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I meant gaming WHILE folding 😛

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thats what I do

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 1:07 AM

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learned alot as well. wish school showed me this stuff more instead of just how to fix basics.

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 1:08 AM

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good to hear

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post in this chat if you either have more issues or the PC remains stable

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just @ me and Revrnd

digital phoenix May 5, 2020, 1:09 AM

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will do have a good night

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 1:13 AM

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👍

silver wing May 5, 2020, 2:55 AM

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boinc event has started so hope all those that can are running Rosetta@Home 🙂

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 3:03 AM

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thats going to take a bit

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i have many computers lol

golden fulcrum May 5, 2020, 3:05 AM

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That's a massive difference, good to see you guys managed to help out @digital phoenix .
AVX / AVX2 are super wide execution units (up to 256 bit) and AVX-512 (512 bit) iirc. So if they're working, as @hushed bobcat said, they'll work the CPU hard and pump more heat / draw more power.
If Folding@Home is using your AVX instructions, and smashing them with no offset, that'd most likely be contributing to your issues as you're not getting typical airflow over your VRMs with an AIO.

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 3:06 AM

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@silver wing Do i join the LTT team on the client or is it linked to my Login?

silver wing May 5, 2020, 3:07 AM

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On the project website, it'll open a web page if you register an account using the boinc manager app

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search for LinusTechTips_Team

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 3:07 AM

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I did register an account before

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and i was on the LTT team

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took a min to find though if i remember right

silver wing May 5, 2020, 3:07 AM

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then you need to jump over to the site and check, there is a button you can click that will take you there in the app

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also grab boincviewer app

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makes managing multiple systems much easier

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I have 19 and it's a pain in the ass without it, used all scripts last year

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 3:09 AM

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can i limit CPU threads somewhere?

silver wing May 5, 2020, 3:10 AM

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you can, you want to limit it globally for all of boinc?

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hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 3:10 AM

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i remember the last time i did this i could limit the number of threads in the BOINC app

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silver wing May 5, 2020, 3:10 AM

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set the first one to percentage of the number of cores you want to use

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 3:11 AM

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yea i dont have that

silver wing May 5, 2020, 3:11 AM

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go to the advanced view

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should look like this

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 3:11 AM

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ahh

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thats what i had before

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this one project will take 1d 4h

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golden fulcrum May 5, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Which reminds me, I should fire up my Skylake-X to see if the 2x AVX-512 FMA units help much more when used in Folding.

silver wing May 5, 2020, 3:12 AM

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It'll adjust the time, it'll take between 6 to 8 hours default

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Rosetta has a target run time you can set on the website, it defaults to 8 hours

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tasks don't really 'finish'

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they just do as much as configured to do

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 3:13 AM

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@silver wing can you set this up via command line only?

silver wing May 5, 2020, 3:13 AM

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boinccmd

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 3:13 AM

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i have an ubuntu server install

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on my 32 thread xeon server

silver wing May 5, 2020, 3:14 AM

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boinccmd --host [ip or dns] --passwd [password] --project_attach [project url] [weak key on account page on website]

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you need to put a password in to the gui_rpc_password file and IP or management host in the remote_hosts file

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file names may not be correct fyi

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but close enough

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boinc manager can connect to remote systems though so you don't have to use cli

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just install boinc client on the server, set the password file and remote host file then jump back to desktop and point app at remote server ip:port or dns:port

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 3:18 AM

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thats what i did on F@H

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but i have no idea how to do what you just said

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I need literally line by line instructions for the linux install

brittle coral May 5, 2020, 3:19 AM

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leadeater i just tried to ask you a question but the bot deleted it?

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ooh i misspelled count without the o

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i haven't been able to get it set up because it keeps not letting me set individual core COUNT xD

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to many different CPUs with different core/thread availabilities

silver wing May 5, 2020, 3:22 AM

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@hushed bobcat sudo apt install boinc-client

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sudo nano /etc/boinc-client/gui_rpc_auth.cfg

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enter password and save file

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sudo nano /etc/boinc-client/remote_hosts.cfg

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enter IP of your desktop running boinc manager and save file

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sudo /etc/init.d/boinc-client restart

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then go back to desktop

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then add project like you would etc

lethal anchor May 5, 2020, 7:07 AM

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Why don't Folding @ home use my RTX 2060?

misty vigil May 5, 2020, 7:26 AM

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@lethal anchor you might need to add a gpu slot

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in advanced control

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or if it is shown up in advaced control and web control, it can take some time til you get a work unit for your gpu

lethal anchor May 5, 2020, 7:30 AM

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I added a gpu slot and saved it but it does nothing

brittle coral May 5, 2020, 7:31 AM

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nexon there's a bug with the current version

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uninstall, download 7.5.1 version from somewhere, install that, run it once, then install 7.6.9 for the latest bug fixes and features lol

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it fixes other things and adds a couple things like the ability to pick to only work on covid WUs

hushed bobcat May 5, 2020, 7:38 AM

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if you need 7.5.1 @lethal anchor https://drive.google.com/open?id=1BEYAgvmbOJtJ8qP9J303nI3bpFy9kYpY

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I have it for both windows and debian linux

silver wing May 5, 2020, 7:52 AM

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FAH website hosts older versions, just click on alternative downloads

brittle coral May 5, 2020, 8:36 AM

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i could never find the older versions there

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it just gives me alternative downloads for different OS of the same version thats current xD

golden fulcrum May 5, 2020, 8:40 AM

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I ran the Beta and it fixed my missing GPU slots, not sure if that beta has been rolled out to release version yet as I've not had the chance to fire up Folding for nearly a week (long story)......

mystic hollow May 5, 2020, 9:25 AM

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it seems WU delivery got somewhat more stabilized lately

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hearty peak May 5, 2020, 9:43 AM

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Whenever I try to fold using folding@home I get stuck on the webpage control thing, Ive tried reinstalling... Any I ideas?

hollow shore May 5, 2020, 11:06 AM

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Did you try the advanced tab instead of the web control?

brittle coral May 5, 2020, 11:49 AM

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@mystic hollow lol thats terrible, are you really still having that much trouble getting WU every day to the same degree?

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this is my recent.

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guess what day i got my 2080ti xD

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you can tell when things got stable though for sure because at the beginning of it i had everything except the 2080ti running but i wasn't getting consistent WU, then you can tell what days i had a bit more issues or spent more time gaming or both by the dip before the peak xD

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that's also around when PCMR started having i9 and i7 giveaways on their folding giveaway

silver wing May 5, 2020, 12:33 PM

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Anyone willing to move some GPUs over to boinc NumberFields@home for the next 12 hrs would be awesome, would give us a nice shot at being able to get 3rd in the first throw of the Javelin event

brittle coral May 5, 2020, 12:55 PM

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any idea how it'd perform if i ran both folding and that at the same time on a gpu xD

rich depot May 5, 2020, 12:58 PM

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@silver wing Will move foldatron over in the next half hour

brittle coral May 5, 2020, 12:58 PM

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@silver wing what kind of boost would it take to get 1st lol

mild kiln May 5, 2020, 1:23 PM

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oh we doing BOINC now?

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Jeez I am so out the loop. Been still doing FAH

silver wing May 5, 2020, 1:36 PM

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@brittle coral About triple our current output

brittle coral May 5, 2020, 1:38 PM

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i was looking for a number in terms of processing power or video cards but for sure lol

silver wing May 5, 2020, 1:38 PM

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tbh no idea lol

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we're about to hit 1 million points

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560k of that is mine from 3 days of bunkering with 406 core / threads 668

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I don't have GPUs so I had to brute force it with CPU power

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If you can pull out 10 V100's from behind the couch that would be great 🙂

brittle coral May 5, 2020, 1:50 PM

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best i can do is a riva tnt2 and a pentium 3 (proceeds to then flip said system for the price of 20 v10s)

brittle coral May 5, 2020, 3:02 PM

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so im looking on newegg and.....https://www.newegg.com/p/1JW-0007-00096?Description=8 gpu motherboard&cm_re=8_gpu_motherboard--9SIA6DHB806092--Product

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i did not know they made these kind of boards xD

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to bad it isn't intel's workstation socket with 44xPCIE lane support xD

fickle needle May 5, 2020, 3:18 PM

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well that's the dirty secret of any of those mining boards is the slots are usually below PCIe x8, because mining doesn't need a lot of communication between the cards or between the card and the computer

brittle coral May 5, 2020, 3:18 PM

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yea lol

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im aware

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hence why i wish it was a server socket one that had the bandwidth

fickle needle May 5, 2020, 3:19 PM

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it'd be fun to pick one up cheap and see how much the loss of PCIe lanes effects your PPD

brittle coral May 5, 2020, 3:20 PM

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i could already test that using an x1 riser

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into any existing slot

fickle needle May 5, 2020, 3:20 PM

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that board is so weird

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SO-DIMM memory?

mystic hollow May 5, 2020, 3:29 PM

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@brittle coral there was X99 once https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813132901

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(X299 is somewhat cheaper LOL https://www.newegg.com/p/1JW-000C-00MY8 )

brittle coral May 5, 2020, 4:06 PM

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lmfao yea

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if you could find a CPU for cheap enough that has a bunch of lanes it might be worth it BUT

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if not

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i'd spring for the 3960x once the next threadripper launches and used ones hit the market

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xD

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64 lanes vs 48 for PCIe means more M2 and more GPU lanes both

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unfortunately not more than 4 PCIe ive seen yet

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it seems like the demand is on the high bandwidth IO side now more than the more than 4 GPU work station side

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one of my friend's who just built a new system for doing medical renders with 4 2080ti and IDK what CPU but he said the budget was 12 grand, was complaining that he couldn't get a current model CPU and room for more than 4 GPUs and have a custom case built by protocase to riser mount up to 8 GPUs off a single motherboard, so now i'm investigating how much CPU he COULD get without having to go to server boards with multiple sockets but i don't think he'd be happy with it considering the full build included a threadripper.

4 x RTX 2080ti
32 core 3970x Threadripper
256GB 3600mhz DDR4 RAM
3 x 2TB m.2 SSD
1500W PSU

a bunch of water cooling supplies.

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he also folds on it part time when it's not busy

onyx canopy May 5, 2020, 4:13 PM

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10M and top 6k LTT !!

brittle coral May 5, 2020, 4:13 PM

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it gets more PPD in a single XL ATX case than my 4 PCs put together

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nice bloom 🙂

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im big jelly tho at my boy and it's still lockdown time so i can't help him build it 😦

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also, he was going to try and run those 4 2080ti off a pair of 3x120 60mm thick radiators and I told him he might want more radiator so now he's looking into getting a corsair 1000D and returning one of the 360s and getting a pair of 480s and a 240 to put radiators in all the fan mount spots the same as I did in my case (except none in the back exhaust cause its to cramped for me and now I'm considering getting the 1000D)

fickle needle May 5, 2020, 4:57 PM

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I kinda love how folding has turned into 'I want to flex with my crazy hardware, but Crypto is sketch, and Overclocking is risky and technical'

trim plover May 5, 2020, 5:12 PM

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hey check it out, i broke 1 mill.

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onyx canopy May 5, 2020, 8:34 PM

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pog

cursive jasper May 5, 2020, 10:48 PM

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@onyx canopy

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onyx canopy May 5, 2020, 10:48 PM

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4 times my score

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D:

cursive jasper May 5, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Lol

onyx canopy May 5, 2020, 10:49 PM

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I have the same average as you when I run 24h so I will never catch up haha

cursive jasper May 5, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Started just after they asked around March 23 and I only run it about 60% of the day

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They days I run it 24hr I usually get between 1.4 to 2 mil

onyx canopy May 5, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Started very late

cursive jasper May 5, 2020, 10:54 PM

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You will catch up slowly a lot of people stopped after the competition was over

fickle needle May 5, 2020, 11:39 PM

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rank 47910 in the team XD

stoic pecan May 6, 2020, 9:07 AM

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Rank 2 in my tram lol

brittle coral May 6, 2020, 10:27 AM

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nice lol

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@stoic pecan i made it to 12th in the average output for the folding team

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if my average reflected my peak i'd be like 8th

stoic pecan May 6, 2020, 10:32 AM

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lmao i'm only second coz we have like 12 ppl

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and half probs ran it and never turned it on again

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rly only 5 are active

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to give u an idea of how bad my folding is, i'm folding on my comp, using only my gpu (gtx 1050), and am getting average 18k points per WU

brittle coral May 6, 2020, 10:34 AM

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lol

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dang

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thats slwoer than my CPU

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i thought 1050 was faster than that

stoic pecan May 6, 2020, 10:36 AM

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but i just realized that was probs being brought down coz at first i was running on cpu too

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coz i have i5-7700hq

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and that was complete sh*t at folding

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i just double checked, and the WU i'm doing rn is gonna give me like 81.5k creds

brittle coral May 6, 2020, 10:54 AM

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that sounds morel ike it

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1050 should be able to do about 150kppd and the 1050ti is closer to 200kppd

stoic pecan May 6, 2020, 10:57 AM

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yeah fah says i'm getting 146.8k ppd

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lmao the team i'm in is a bunch of boy scouts who r tryna do service

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thats y it's so small and it's so ez to get to high rank

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but how do u get advanced stats on ur team/user

brittle coral May 6, 2020, 11:12 AM

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on the left side of the site here you can pick options and search for users or teams by name https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&srt=1&t=223518

EXTREME Overclocking

LinusTechTips_Team Members List Rankings - Folding@Home Stats

F@H stats team members rankings for LinusTechTips_Team. Help Folding at Home fight Coronavirus, further medical research, and prevent diseases with distributed computing!

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thats where i got my points per 24hrs score on the team from

stoic pecan May 6, 2020, 11:28 AM

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lol it shows my team's stats

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but when i put in my username it doesn't show anything

brittle coral May 6, 2020, 11:44 AM

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weird

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did you make sure you spelled it right

stoic pecan May 6, 2020, 11:52 AM

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yeah i copied and pasted the name from FAH

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is there a minmum for individual users as well?

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coz like i know for teams u have to be in top 12000 for it to start tracking your stats

silver wing May 6, 2020, 11:58 AM

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did you search for username or user ID?

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but you might have to wait a while, can't remember the limit set for users but you could be in the cut off

stoic pecan May 6, 2020, 12:01 PM

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username

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i can't find my user ID on fah website

silver wing May 6, 2020, 12:02 PM

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on the FAH stats website search for yourself then hover over the url link in the search results

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it's in that url

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not actually shown anywhere on the page

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but I don't think EOC uses that as it's not in the data export file they provide

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@rich depot My guess is next throw will be announced in 12 hours so 3.5 days away

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can't see it being later than that since there is 4 more to do

rich depot May 6, 2020, 12:07 PM

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No worries, I'm trying to keep up to date but things are not well for me atm

silver wing May 6, 2020, 12:07 PM

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wouldn't worry to much, I'm sitting out this throw

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we only have to do 3 good ones out of 5

rich depot May 6, 2020, 12:08 PM

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I may as well, don't have the time to mess about atm. So I'm just leaving it to work through the number WUs and then will drop them when it's time.

silver wing May 6, 2020, 12:10 PM

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problem I see with Javelin is we got 1.18 mil for the first throw and 569k of that was mine from a full 2.5 days of bunker on CPU so if I do it thats a big chunk of marathon or city run missing out

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it's not the best use of CPU time

stoic pecan May 6, 2020, 12:12 PM

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okay i tried user id as well and it says it didn't find me

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silver wing May 6, 2020, 12:13 PM

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sounds like you're in the cut off zone for the stats import

raw violet May 6, 2020, 12:13 PM

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ive just setup folding and its only using cpu is that normal?

stoic pecan May 6, 2020, 12:13 PM

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i mean my overall rank is pretty bad (i'm like 171694) so yea i think i'm cut off

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@raw violet it defaults to cpu but u shld rly set up gpu

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it's a lot more efficient

raw violet May 6, 2020, 12:14 PM

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how are i do it

stoic pecan May 6, 2020, 12:14 PM

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do u know how to do it or shld i walk u thru it

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okok

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on ur client click configure

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and then slots

raw violet May 6, 2020, 12:14 PM

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ye

stoic pecan May 6, 2020, 12:14 PM

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in slots it shld show the cpu

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and then at the bottom there shld be add and remove buttons

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so just click add

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choose gpu

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and if u wanna configure each gpu manually u can change the values

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but i only have one gpu that fah can actually use so i just set it as default

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once ur done click ok

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and then save

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and if u dont wanna fold with cpu u shld probs also click on cpu and remove

raw violet May 6, 2020, 12:15 PM

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yeah i have one gpu

stoic pecan May 6, 2020, 12:16 PM

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ok so i wouldn't change any of the values if i were u

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just choose gpu and then click ok

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i'm on my laptop and the cpu folding is rly taxing and doesn't give many credits anyway

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so i'm just folding with gpu 24/7

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did it work?

raw violet May 6, 2020, 12:18 PM

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yeah i think so it says gpu is running

stoic pecan May 6, 2020, 12:18 PM

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okay

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if u wanna double check

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go to task manager>performance>gpu

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and then on the graphs theres shld be small blue arrow next to the title

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click on that and choose 'cuda'

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that'll show the gpu usage by fah

raw violet May 6, 2020, 12:20 PM

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yeah usage is at 99%

stoic pecan May 6, 2020, 12:20 PM

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alr ye so it shld be running

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lmk if u need any other help

raw violet May 6, 2020, 12:20 PM

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should i run both gpu and cpu or only gpu

stoic pecan May 6, 2020, 12:21 PM

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what cpu u got

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also r u running on laptop or pc

raw violet May 6, 2020, 12:21 PM

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i7-8700k desktop

stoic pecan May 6, 2020, 12:22 PM

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oh dang

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i'm p sure that would do a fairly good job

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it's up to u

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if u have rly gud cooling

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then go for it

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u shld also see what differene to ppd it has

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my only worry is that it may run ur cpu too hot if cooling isn't adequate

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for one of my friends even folding at medium on cpu made his comp crash

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but u shld mess around and see what works for u

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at least that's what i personally would do*

raw violet May 6, 2020, 12:24 PM

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im gonna watch my temps on hwm and see

stoic pecan May 6, 2020, 12:25 PM

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gud idea

raw violet May 6, 2020, 12:25 PM

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me big brain

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pretty toasty

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stoic pecan May 6, 2020, 12:47 PM

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what's ur gpu temp like?

raw violet May 6, 2020, 12:47 PM

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btw thoes temps where medium usage

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im running full gpu only now and its seems low at 75c or 167F

stoic pecan May 6, 2020, 1:06 PM

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Oh rly

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What gpu?

raw violet May 6, 2020, 1:07 PM

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1080

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i reached 90c on 2 cores should i be worried about that temp

stoic pecan May 6, 2020, 1:23 PM

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isn't the max like 100c