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brittle coral
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thats p common for china blowouts

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they are 100% mined to hell and back but if they run

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they run

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repaste the coolers before you use em i saw a 7c drop on the 1060 miners im using

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the heat pipe is directly on the die as well so it helped a ton

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i did the glove trick

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ultra thin layer

hushed bobcat
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uhh

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i found another posting that is VERY similar

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except instead of a lot of 6 he has 6 available

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seller name is similar

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Item location and Shipping are exactly the same

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same brand of cards

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price is $4 more per card

brittle coral
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i guarantee you they made multiple accounts to try and move them faster while obfuscating who the seller is

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make sure you use paypal XD

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buyer protection ftw

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i hate how rigid they are about it for good sellers who get fucked over by shitty asshole buyers who scam people

hushed bobcat
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always use Paypal

brittle coral
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but its cause of sellers like that XD

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people in china with a US proxy or something especially

brittle coral
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i clipped it out but the first one is 14549 project

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5700xt should not be slower than an RX580

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xD

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oh nvm i didnt clip it haha

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@hushed bobcat this is why we can't have nice things

cerulean oriole
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My 5700 is faster than either of those

errant herald
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LTT Folding server is down

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Connection refused

cerulean oriole
hushed bobcat
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@brittle coral unless im reading that wrong your XT is doing 100k more ppd than your RX 580

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i mean its still awful

brittle coral
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Its doing less

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The 5700xt is the slower one

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@cerulean oriole mine is too but its that specific WU

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I get 50-70% gpu utilization

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When I get one of those I just go game on the excess rather than pausing

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Doesn't slow it much

mystic hollow
golden fulcrum
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seems I've fallen victim to the no GPU bug with F@H too.

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tried to copy the GPU.txt and restart, but no difference (web control shows progress, app shows connecting/inactive).

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planning on reinstalling immediately after finishing this CPU WU

golden fulcrum
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turns out there's is a beta version that seems to have fixed the GPU issue.

vernal oasis
brittle coral
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word

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nice

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also i finished my water loop

brittle coral
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dude idk how, but even with the rig down for several hours today i still managed to raise my all time high for PPD o_O

brittle coral
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@hushed bobcat how much we betting my rig still randomly shuts off xD

hushed bobcat
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RGB fixes everything @brittle coral

onyx canopy
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slowly but surely

fickle needle
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chilling at a perf 69 C

rancid frost
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Nice.

trail night
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@vernal oasis NICE! 100M That's crazy! Send the link to the profile? How high are you on the leaderboard?

vernal oasis
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im not that high on leaderboard

brittle coral
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@vernal oasis i tried to find you on the XOC stats page but i can't tell if the guy under your name on LTT is even active cause it says 0 active PPD lol. https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/search.php plug your name in here i wanna see your stats over time

EXTREME Overclocking

F@H stats search page. Help Folding at Home fight Coronavirus, further medical research, and prevent diseases with distributed computing!

golden fulcrum
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yeah, I looked and he's there, latest points going to My_Playhouse or something.

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Last LTT WU was around 2wks ago

brittle coral
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yeee

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no judgement, i folded for PCMR at the beginning asnd freely admit it because i came here from reddit xD

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was anandtech boy in the early days

golden fulcrum
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Meanwhile, I keep getting in the sh!t with the Minister for Finance and Recreation for leaving the rig on.
Trying to save money as we've been burning it buying overpriced groceries, so she's getting a bit peeved when the rig is on :-(
Trying to convince her we've saving lives, missing out on around 7mil PPD because of it.

brittle coral
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ooof

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yea my farm is at 4.5-5-5 now unless i can get a 2080ti to take the place of the 1060 3gb, then i'll be at 7ish

golden fulcrum
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I saw there's a 2060 KO or something from EVGA that's supposedly highly rated (and quite cheap)

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nearly bought one myself but when missus found out about the 2x 8TB HDD's I bought, she hit the roof. lol.
Trying to recover a broken LaCie 5Big (eyeing off a Synology DS1019+) so new GPUs are nowhere near the top of my to-do list for the time being. lol

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would make an alright folding GPU

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Gamers Nexus seems to believe they're a 2080 in disguise

silver wing
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no judgement, i folded for PCMR at the beginning asnd freely admit it because i came here from reddit xD
@brittle coral You have been judged, in to the naughty corner with you

brittle coral
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xD

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hush

silver wing
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๐Ÿ™‚

brittle coral
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im a dirty street walker and i play for whatever team i feel like xD

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you guys just happen to be the most helpful rn

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๐Ÿ˜›

silver wing
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plus always play for the winning team lol

brittle coral
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xD mostly i like having people to compete with and LTT had a good lineup at the top

golden fulcrum
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lol, if I could leave my machine on for a few days, I swear I'd just make it to top 10,000 in LTT... only to lose positions hand over fist whilst making things up with SWMBO.

brittle coral
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lol word

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yea im just cranking away on 2 rigs while one games intermittently

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i forgot to pause my 5700xt before sitting down to eat and it started a fresh WU right as i went to load witcher 3 so yesterday and today both are lower than avg for me but w/e i use my rig for other things sometimes too sue me ๐Ÿ˜›

stark bough
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I'm thinking of putting together a 400-600W capture box.
been playing in the living room now on console and I'd like to have w camera pointed at me and my bro while we game and with the console playing.

brittle coral
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lol word

stark bough
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i dont care about streaming to others, I just want to save the console experiences we share together

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might be microATX perferabbly. i need to be able to move it around. Also been wondering if I can use it to record shows from my dad's DVR.

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duno if thats going to be what. $500-700?

brittle coral
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idek lol i havent looked in forever at what's good for waht

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but yea with the 1600af out you can do that and put a 6 core in it for $85 xD idk if you need IGP tho

stark bough
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Hoping to set it up where it automatically compresses inputted videos to 100 MB per 10 min. a 'console/camera setup for 200 MB/10 min'. probably shuck a bunch of eaststores before they all go SMR.

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i never done streaming, but i imagine that would be the setup

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i'd probably need microatx if i needed a video card AND a capture card. ATX seems a bit too big.

brittle coral
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yea microatx sounds about right if youre not tryina o to big

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ITX def to small unless you wanna rely on IGP

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and even then its iffy imo

stark bough
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I'd also like to record local TV broadcasts/commercials

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mostly news.

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and when its not being used, put in the work for folding, lol

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4 HDD bays sound about right? i think ill forgo Optical to increase airflow/lower form factor

brittle coral
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usb optical is fine probably

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4 hdd + NVMe SSD sure

stark bough
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gonna be living room so dust filtration is important.

brittle coral
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ZFS and maybe use the drive as a cache and do it all as one big one

stark bough
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might do a micro atx with a nvme boot, second m.2 as cache, and do 2 raid 1s. one for the game recordings. one for media capture.

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or just pool em all together

brittle coral
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i do 2 raid 1s

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i dont have the drives cached

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i could tho

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but im gonna move to a cached ZFS config eventually

stark bough
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I just feel more comfortable running a storage poon on a NAS thats not running any other software.

hushed bobcat
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Small, Great Filters, Support for 5 Drives

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you can save a few $$ and get the one without the glass side panel

stark bough
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Thats the template i was considering. didnt like the 'washable filters' as they seem to be a foam and not a mesh

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i already have the standard C.

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oh thats the define, not the meshify. still.

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i just wish they made the Define R6 as a microATX. i LOVE the door.

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i dont like wearing out the plastic

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it relys on a plastic snap on to remove it

brittle coral
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ugh please kill me

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im at like a 7-8 out of 10 on the pain scale i think i injured both my shoulders putting my rig back up xD

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i had a friend help carry it in from the garage but everything's fucked today anyway lmfao. pinched nerves in both. now i remember why i didnt redo it for so long lmfao

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i need valve sealing quick disconnects and a totally separate radiator box or something to save on weight

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technically i have the separate box just not the disconnects

golden fulcrum
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geez, how much does your rig weigh again?

brittle coral
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uh

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idek

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its got 3 radiators, about 2 liters of water, 4 hard drives, 2 GPUs, 750w PSU, 13 fans, and a D5 pump and block for cpu all adds up

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based on the pain to lift it tho

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easily 100lb

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either that or im totally fucked out of shape rn and its less, but i have a much much easier time lifting my 83lb klipsch KP-301s than this rig right now

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hell i have an easier time lifting my 115lb friend but she also puts a lot of that weight on my waist xD

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this is like lifting a corpse

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a deer corpse

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it was worth it tho for how great it looks rn

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and the performance cooling it

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im STILL hitting 70-83c range from 83-95 (throttle) but its also clocking higher on it's own and drawing more power for it now so it makes sense

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and im totally fine with that xD its stable

golden fulcrum
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100lb ??? geez. glad I only had air cooling on my 4x GPU workstation. lol

brittle coral
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its easily 70lb without the water and rads

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lol

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hard drives mang

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steel

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the good stuff

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haha

golden fulcrum
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heaviest rig I tried to lift was my 10x GPU mining rig (with 2x 1500w PSUs).
weighed a ton, not sure exactly how much, but it was damn heavy.

brittle coral
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ive got room for another power supply if i want to go 3 chambered again

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used to use that chamber for 2nd set of rads

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still might again

golden fulcrum
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That's a pretty meaty system then, must be a monster case.

brittle coral
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haf 935 stacker with 2 915 modules

onyx canopy
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@brittle coral any crash ?

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btw I haven't had gotten one since I changed PSU :D

brittle coral
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not yet lol

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@onyx canopy my temps are stable now with 200mhz more avg oc than before

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my back is in hella pain

onyx canopy
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on cpu ?

brittle coral
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i legit just almost passed out from exhaustion

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yea

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boost was throttling before

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at like 75-85w

mild kiln
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how we holding up in FAH?

brittle coral
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boutta sleep

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hella in pain, i almost passed out a few hours ago from exhaustion then broke a glass funnel and cleaning that up woke me up so i was up a bit more lol

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worth tho, water loop is done

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may need to open the block up to clean some debris out of it that i see building up (thank fuck for acrylic topped blocks this time), thinking i might drain and reloop it if i can find a good way to do so without messing other stuff up on my rig lol

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just redo the connect from the rad and out from the block to the res with valves so i can remove and clean it if need be

pine cradle
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How can I add my NVIDIA GPU on the panel on Linux?

pine cradle
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nvm, i got it

rich depot
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this is from running F@H

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what is the issue??

still hill
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Overheating?

rich depot
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desktop

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2080 ti

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61 degrees is overheating??

still hill
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What is the fan at?

rich depot
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I set it to 100%

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why

still hill
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Just thinking. That is an odd fluctuation.

rich depot
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fan speed doesn't matter on desktop

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like it has no corrilation to performance as long as temps are the same

still hill
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My CPU was doing that when the voltage regulators for the cpu were overheating. Even though the CPU was cool enough

rich depot
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I am pretty sure the voltage is not overheating

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well.. u can't see that on nvidia so lol

still hill
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True that's why I was wondering on the fan.

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Outside of that. My brain is fried.

rich depot
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Well if I am seeing dips in game FPS. I am bringing it to the store after this Corona thing lol

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Is there a chance I broke it from running F@H 24/7?

still hill
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Doubtful.

rich depot
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Even so, it should be under warranty

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Because I'm not maliciously trying to break it

still hill
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They should take a 24/7 for a few years. Unless they overheat or something with no issues

rich depot
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How will the shop be able to check if it overheated?

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Anyhow. If it overheats, it should turn itself off right?

still hill
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That should be warrantied either way

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It will slow the clockspeeds down.

rich depot
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So I read this article published by F@H

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And they say they distribute the projects like a jackpot

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And see if they manage to hit one

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Is there a chance I got one? Because it wasn't like this in the last project

still hill
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No the up and down is not normal.

rich depot
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Well there is a chance that it is that because I played Cities Skylines with like 50 mods and 100 DLCs

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It used 13GB ram and a lot of CPU usage. Idk how it impacts the GPU

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Like 40% on my 9900k for a game is considered a lot

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Compared to other games which only use 12% lol

still hill
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It should not break a gpu. No matter what the game did. Or even what F@H does.

rich depot
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Well I will just get this task completed and see the next tast

still hill
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Well I'm off to nap. Reboot my brain. Later rooSuperComfyCoffee

rich depot
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Cya

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returned to normal in the next wu

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weird

idle harness
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its happened to me before

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again only in a certain WU

slate lake
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What. There is an official folding @ home discord

foggy anchor
foggy anchor
mystic hollow
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well, it says FAHClient is already running. so try to stop it first ?

brittle coral
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@rich depot thats normal, some WU process chunks then move data around and you'll see a drop in processing for a sec. it's even more pronounced with AMD, with some cards only hitting 50-70% utilization. it's those kind of wU i don't pause when i decide to go game while folding on my 5700xt xD

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@onyx canopy it happened again on a warmer day. woke up and my rig had shut off. im going to order a new PSU (UGH I JUST REDID ALL THE WIRING PRETTY) and a UPS as well. if the UPS doesn't solve the issue i'll install the new PSU. this one is out of warranty so if there's something wrong it's time to chuck it in a bin anyway lol. i doubt there's anything wrong based on voltage info and it's prob the dip that's happening, but if i get a UPS and it keeps up i want a backup lol

onyx canopy
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pretty sure UPS is non factor here

alpine needle
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Just finished my first "fold". Super cool!

proven marlin
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@foggy anchor , a reboot can sometimes clear that up. Had an issue like that on my 2nd PC that runs Mint Mate when I first installed F@H. Seems those WUs are hanging up the client from doing a clean start up. You could also do a kill command on those processes and then re-try starting the client. But yes, as Parandroid stated, the last few lines state that the client is already running on PID 12649. A way to double check, fire the command top or htop off to see what processes are running.

lament shuttle
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Anyone else had issues with overclocked GPUs failing WU's? OC is game stable so I dont think it's an unstable OC

brittle coral
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@onyx canopy imn pretty sure it is, breaker just tripped again lol

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it was fine for 2 cool days and now its hot again and its tripping cause the mini fridge and freezer are spinning up more often

serene magnet
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I have a quadro card installed but it doesn't ever find any work. Do I need to change settings in the program?

brittle coral
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@lament shuttle your OC is unstable

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it just isn't unstable in games

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enough to produce artifacts

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pull it back

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if you're erroring out WUs that's not cool for the project cause they have to then determine if they fucked up or you fucked up

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and someone else is later reissued the WU

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in the logs it literally asks you when it happens if you're OCing

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because this is so common

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WU rarely error for any other reason

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this is why when OCing you always want to find a stable point, and then back the OC up further from it to be sure

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and even then, if it's a really aggressive OC you may need to pull back further for it to be stable to fold on. if you want to fold without it happening the safest bet is really just to downclock it to near stock, or at least within the range of the boost OC

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my RX580 didn't like more than 60mhz of OC before it'd error, my 5700x let me increase the boost till it caused thermal throttling issues without problem cause boost is lit

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and most importantly, factory validated

onyx canopy
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@brittle coral why don't you have your pc plugged into the wall ?

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are you afraid of thunder?

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surges

brittle coral
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i do lol

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i just need to get a UPS

brittle coral
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breaker tripped again, looks like im putting the RX580 on finish to see if it stabilizes things. prob gonna get the UPS anyway because i've been wanting one for a long time regardless, to see if i can get things sorted. without the fridge and freezer both spinning up things should be fine, both of them are only rated for a few hundred watts each of sustained draw when they are on at all lol. The biggest improvement i can get is replacing the dang incandescent bulbs over our dining table which are apparently on the same circuit even tho they're in the next room, and swap em for LED ones

brittle coral
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@onyx canopy welp, i blew the breaker while the rig was idling this time xD i paused everything and it still happened. something else fucky is going on so im geting that 1500va UPS just because i need monitoring anyway. my step-dad and I both think it's something to do with all the PFC power supplies overdrawing the amps because of voltage drop, but we don't know what's causing it or if it's even that without something that can log it continuously AFTER the power shuts off, which requires battery backup xD

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my plan to verify this issue for now is to turn my fridge/freezer off for al ittle bit so they have to spin back up

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let everything idle basically and then cause a sudden load and see what happens

brittle coral
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ironically

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it looks like the single biggest item that is causing droop is the 5 incandescent light fixture in the next room. every other item including my PC has a max variance of 1-2v except the PC which can hit 3-4v of droop from boot to full load but it isnt all at once either. the fixture is 3-4v despite drawing less than half the watts of my PC

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so then all the many PFC power supplies in my room overdraw the amp limit when im still only at something like 1900/2400w on circuit before it should blow

main mist
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Why did you just type like 50 paragraphs.

brittle coral
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i typed 3 lol. ive been troubleshooting this issue for 2 weeks and bloom has been helping as have others

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my main folding rig and some other things together started popping the breaker when it was stable before and we're trying to figure out why even tho its under the breaker's limit

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most people don't provide nearly as much info as I do when troubleshooting cause they don't do it for a living ๐Ÿ™‚

main mist
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i do troubleshooting for a living pretty much also

left patrol
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How old is the Mini Fridge? didn't think mini's drew that much. The one we've got barely pulls anything.

brittle coral
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im thinking its because it's old

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i got it 2009-2010 freezer is 6m-1y younger

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the issue is the whole circuit is just taxed more than it should. it's shocking (hah) that 5 incandescent bulbs can really drop the power by THAT much. I've been using all LEDs for years and i switched the rest of the house to them, but my mom loves the look of incandescent so all 5 bulbs over the dining table have it. im going to look into LED replicas that cast the same kind of simulated glow using strip shaped diodes sort of in the shape of incandescent bulbs. I've seen em for other bulbs, i need em for those elongated torpedo bulbs that are only like 1" wide

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that would save me 20% of the total drop on the line xD

left patrol
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Its slightly horrifying to think of how much power incandescent used before lighting elements evolved. I've seen similar looking ones at Home Depot, but there is always the internet linusKappa

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It's a shame that most places want to charge a butt-ton for a single LED bulb. It's bothersome, but heyy. its RGB baby! ruyuRLY

brittle coral
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so my step-dad agrees

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the bulbs are to bright

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and the fact that my mom got rid of the dimmer makes it worse

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he still agrees it's my fault the power is dropping because im most of the draw, but i brought the voltmeter out to the outlet in the dining room which is on that circuit

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i plugged it in and then flipped hte lights on in front of him and he watched it drop himself xD

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he's a realist, so i brought him reality

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right now im literally cycling my F@H slots so that one is idle while the other folds to clear my WUs out on this rig, im not running my RX580 even in the case till i can get things stable. I also have the option to loan the card to a friend whose rig is here for fixing, since he's got free power and it's cold enough at night where he is that he'll let me fold on it at least part of the day lol

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also i turned all my fans down a notch and that got me another 2.5v off the line sag so its prob stable now

pseudo abyss
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Why is so much stuff on the same breaker

brittle coral
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well most if it is in my room

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but

pseudo abyss
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And how big is the breaker

brittle coral
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when we had the whole house redone and some circuits added in the garage for dedicated power to the server room (where my other gear all is stable split between 2 circuits) someone fucked up this one circuit

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its a 20a line

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but theres 2 outlets and 2 light fixtures on it in another room and outside the house

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on the same wall

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also we had a 2nd 20a that went to the server room and also to the entrance of the garage for power taps to run out the door and that circuit wasnt updated internally or at any of the outlets and so it literally burned through at one point, and then again at another which properly killed the feed entirely, we had that fixed since

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the rest of it is all from a standard 200a residential drop

pseudo abyss
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I mean why do you have a fridge in your room?

brittle coral
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because i needed the space

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our fridge isnt big enough, and at the time my young sister was stealing my stuff

pseudo abyss
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I guess you are US/Canada?

brittle coral
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the fridge sits mostly filled with drinks and the freezer is filled with food always

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yea

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120/60hz =/

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but in my room rn its more like 105

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i wish i had 240/50 service

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that would be far more stable

pseudo abyss
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Because 20A isn't used on normal things in homes here

brittle coral
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yea lol

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all the house circuits for rooms in most homes are 20a

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its standard

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the power strips are usually tripped internally to 15a as well

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but you can easily overload a 20a with a couple of separate strips

pseudo abyss
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10-16A is normal here

brittle coral
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a 16a 240 is the equiv of a 30a here

pseudo abyss
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230v

brittle coral
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i'd love to have that xD

silver wing
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230V/240V master race

brittle coral
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right

silver wing
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๐Ÿ™‚

brittle coral
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wtf edison!

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its all edison standards for real

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this shit was designed originally in the 19th century and we just kept adding bigger wires

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.........

pseudo abyss
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Well, Edison liked DC power first

brittle coral
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ground lines

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ect

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lol thats true, but then tesla got big on it

silver wing
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don't get me started on your wire gauges lol

brittle coral
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right xD

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in wall is 12/3 a lot of the time when it should be 10/3 for overhead

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12/3 is what i get in my pro rated extensions

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but we have a 50a twist thats 8/3 i think

pseudo abyss
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Those numbers don't mean anything to me :P

brittle coral
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er no thats 4/3, the 30a is 8/3

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8 gauge 3 wire

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the first is the gauge the 2nd is the wire, afaik they label it that way elsewhere its just in mm/count instead

pseudo abyss
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16A here is 2,5mm2

silver wing
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get to 0 gauge size then you're all like, oh crap we f'd up lol

pseudo abyss
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And 10-13 ish A is 1,5mm2

brittle coral
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i helped a friend crimp a 0awg hot wire for an amp lead

silver wing
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00 gauge

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000 gauge

brittle coral
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he wasnt strong enough

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that lead was the size of a pinky

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and it was solid core

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i have apparently more grip power than some vices when i can get my whole hand on a crimper

pseudo abyss
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I don't know how large whatever "gauge" is at all because we don't use it and it sucks

brittle coral
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^^ agreed

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i thin we're all with you on that xD

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but im stuck with it so here we are ๐Ÿคช

pseudo abyss
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At work motors and stuff is running on 400v 3 phase :)

brittle coral
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12awg is about 2mm btw

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diameter

silver wing
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when you have an actual measuring system but you make up your own units

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could have just used inch fractions but oh nooo

pseudo abyss
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And some of the biggest motors are dual 95mm2 cable

brittle coral
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10 is 2.5mm~

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those are huge lol

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motors are ridiculous

pseudo abyss
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It's a pain to do anything with, luckily I am becoming an Automation electrician and not just an electrician

brittle coral
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i feel you

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thanks for chiming in btw mihle

pseudo abyss
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So I won't have to deal with them if motor need changing or whatever

silver wing
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oh nice

brittle coral
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having the opinion of an actual electrician is useful right now given my problem

pseudo abyss
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Well, I am an apprentice

brittle coral
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so, the line is supposed to be 120v, but im sitting at like 103v when i turn my fans up the way i want xD

silver wing
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well I'm a "i haven't died yet so we good right?"

brittle coral
#

i think my PSU's PFC cut off is 90v

#

and ive been having random PC shutdowns ๐Ÿ˜„

#

and now as it has gotten hotter the breaker also started tripping some ๐Ÿ˜„

#

thats what ive been dealing with

#

and leadeater and bloom and I have been banging our heads against it testing stuff

pseudo abyss
#

Btw

brittle coral
#

turns out that light in the dining room is a real juicer

pseudo abyss
#

There are both good and bad LEDs

brittle coral
#

ayyye

#

i always check the wattage

silver wing
#

I've had so many LED lights fail from overheating

brittle coral
#

i havent yet thankfully

silver wing
#

it's a real problem on the 230v ones

pseudo abyss
#

I have heard some buy the cheapest ones and then complain about bad light quality

brittle coral
#

i use 4 strips currently in my room allthose standard cut em off in sections of 3 LEDs, the cheap ones

#

hahaha

#

yea obviously

pseudo abyss
#

Luckily that is little bit better now than for some years ago but still

brittle coral
#

cheap ones sometimes have a friggin flicker built in

#

to dim a brighter LED

#

some people can see it, especially when on psychoactive substances, and itll cause tracers in vision even sober

#

when moving

pseudo abyss
#

Europe is switching to LEDs only by regulation

brittle coral
#

ive heard of people with seizure disorders who respond to light not knowing and having to return bulbs for it cause there's no manufacturers warning

#

even tho the circuit itself comes with one

#

I used to build LED microlight glove sets to use at raves a few years back

silver wing
#

odd cos fluro isn't too bad

brittle coral
#

its the same circuit they use in those

#

only it's by design in those gloves to create the strobe efect

silver wing
#

not led efficient but a hell of a lot better

brittle coral
#

yea i told my step-dad i was switching the house over on their dime when we ran out of incandescent bulbs and he was cool with it, by regulation you can still get lower wattage ones here but most of them now are halogen simulated bulbs and they burn out really fast

#

less power than traditional but less reliable, manufacturers love it!

silver wing
#

lol

pseudo abyss
#

Some lamps where designed with only incandescent or halogen bulbs do make LED bulbs run hotter than they should

#

And they die faster

silver wing
#

this is the style of LEDs that have the overheating problem for me

pseudo abyss
#

Because lack of ventilation or other ways

silver wing
#

yep, even vented housing they still get too hot

#

right pain

pseudo abyss
#

When supply runs out you can't get halogen bulbs here that isn't those tiny ones anymore here

silver wing
#

halo ones of those have been really good

#

there's lots of them, kitchen alone as 12

brittle coral
#

leadeater we have a ton of those

#

one has died so far

#

but the rest have been far more reliable than their filament counterparts

#

the filament ones were even hotter

#

and it killed them as well

#

i found some that use very little power though

#

like 8w or something vs 60 for the filament ones

silver wing
#

8w LED? you trying to blind people?

brittle coral
#

i have 2 dif ones in there, some from amazon and another pack that i just used the last one of cause our last filament bulb died

#

these are for spot lighting, the beam is wider

#

they're angled a bit in the chassis

#

and it's the total draw of the device, idk if all of it is spent on the LEDs

#

probably more like 5w of LED and 3w of loss to conversion from AC to DC

#

lol

#

tiny converters are always terrible

#

not enough cooling and room for components that are efficient

silver wing
#

most of ours are 4W

#

I think

brittle coral
#

yea my moml likes bright

#

so i found matching bulbs to the filament ones in lumens

#

it looks like most of them are 5 single bulbs in an array but i have one socket as the test socket for the other bulbs, those are a single 5w diode with a diffuser lens

pseudo abyss
#

Just related to earlier

brittle coral
#

those individual contacts, thats what i had to crimp for my homeboy

#

one of the donut ends onto a solid core around half that thickness

pseudo abyss
#

Dual 95mm2

brittle coral
#

he's got an extra 100lb of lift power on me but I can crush things with my hands xD

brittle coral
#

@silver wing was it you who said you have APC UPS only?

silver wing
#

Eaton at home, APC at work

brittle coral
#

it comes in a rack or non rack variant, non rack is cheaper of course

silver wing
#

Should be fine, don't really use cheaper units myself

#

I've had bad experiences in the past with units like that but that's really from people not replacing the battery when they should

#

APC is not in the habit of making and selling junk either

brittle coral
#

yea

#

and the battery is also available on amazon

#

all our other UPS in the house are APC

#

I may be 30 but my step-dad pays the power bills and always buys good stuff, he said make sure to get one that's the same or higher standard and thats what i woulda done anyway xD

#

plus, if he decides to get a bigger one, we can have a spare battery for whichever one needs it first

#

we have a set of spares for the other 3 or 4 that are scattered around

#

also a pair of ancient APCs that require more advanced deconstruction (you have to fully disassemble the case and then desolder the battery leads) but idk if they even have batteries for small ones that old now

brittle coral
#

anyone having trouble getting work again?

#

my 3 fastest slots are all idle and one of them has a WU its been unable to send for half a day now

#

it's attempted 14 times

#

aye and when i g to check them al and pause/play the ones that are on long timers, the 980ti is the only one that gets work xD, go figure the slowest one would

jade slate
#

i only get CPU WUs

shut halo
#

cool 10 hour cpu wu

pine cradle
#
11:55:13:WU02:FS01:Upload 100.00%
11:56:50:WU02:FS01:Upload complete
11:56:50:WU02:FS01:Server responded WORK_QUIT (404)
11:56:50:WARNING:WU02:FS01:Server did not like results, dumping
11:56:50:WU02:FS01:Cleaning up```
I'm dissapointed right now after that hard work
burnt cairn
#

was it a cpu or gpu WU?

#

usually when that happens it's due to an unstable overclock.

brittle coral
#

isnt it usually more common for it to error during the unit's processing time?

#

that's what i see when it's an unstable OC

burnt cairn
#

not always, it may not be unstable enough to fail the WU during processing but something in the file becomes corrupt.

#

back in the day there use to be a way to exploit the point system running WU's meant for fermi cards on 8k series cards where you got double the points a fermi card would get but the WU would always be returned corrupted but still got the points.

brittle coral
#

ugh finally

#

someone reliable listed a 2080ti for a price im willing to pay

#

refurb/RMAed but he is willing to help honor the original warranty as well and i trust him, which is good through till the end of next year

#

guess i'm getting that card after all lmao, folding city here i come

pine cradle
#

gpu WU

brittle coral
#

and for sure Sirmokey that makes sense

pine cradle
#

No, the reason why it failed is that I took too long to upload it

brittle coral
#

i just havent seen it lol

#

oh what

#

yea ive seen it take forever but thats wack

#

usually it uploads eventually

pine cradle
#

No, like my upload rate here in my area is literally 8Kb/s

brittle coral
#

WAT

pine cradle
#

All other bandwidths will go for upload

#

Asymmetric net

#

I hate it

brittle coral
#

thats whack af

pine cradle
#

PH net always sucks

#

Not to mention, it's 3G

#

No such thing as DSL, fiber, or LTE in my place

#

Like, compare the time from the log

01:56:31:WU02:FS01:Connecting to 3.21.157.11:8080
01:56:40:WU02:FS01:Upload 0.08%
01:56:54:WU02:FS01:Upload 0.16%
01:57:17:WU02:FS01:Upload 0.23%
01:58:24:WU02:FS01:Upload 0.39%
02:00:03:WU02:FS01:Upload 0.47%
02:01:24:WU02:FS01:Upload 0.63%
~~~~~
10:54:10:WU02:FS01:Upload 89.25%
10:55:27:WU02:FS01:Upload 89.41%
10:56:32:WU02:FS01:Upload 89.64%
10:57:41:WU02:FS01:Upload 89.88%
10:58:44:WU02:FS01:Upload 90.11%```
#

It started uploading on 1am UTC

#

and almost ended at 11am UTC

#

no, almost 12nn

brittle coral
#

christ

#

no wonder

pine cradle
#

Only if my ISP fixes their crappy net and upgrading it to LTE, maybe I have no problems uploading project and maybe begin streaming

fathom cipher
#

me feeling bad with my unnecessary one gigabit

fickle needle
#

I'm feeling it man

#

i'm sitting here with a dummy thicc connection folding with a GTS 450

brittle coral
#

man its been super dead in here (this channel) since PCMR started their super long F@H giveaway lol

shut halo
#

Whar giveaway?

brittle coral
#

they're giving away over 20k in free shit at least throughout april and may

#

but you gotta do a bunch to prove participation. they structured it so people can hop teams for a day or 2 for the prizes they want and then leave again as well

#

or only fold for those days and stop lmao

#

thats why PCMR is so high on the board

#

when they were doing piss all before

#

ironically their production rate still trails way behind LTT even after the drop in LTT's

brittle coral
#

lol just some of them

#

and i dont pay much attention outside this one

hushed bobcat
#

Interesting, so on some WU my PC will BSOD with a "driver not less or equal" error

#

BUT if i set the power limit on my 1080 Ti to 85% it will work fine (even starting from the last save point on the very WU that BSOD'd me)

#

looks like I pull about 210 Watts at 85% vs around 250 at 100%

#

clocks are 1835 @ 85% vs 1936 @ 100%

vernal lodge
#

your gpu has too much powaaaaa reeee

hushed bobcat
#

the board is rated for 375W tho....

vernal lodge
#

heh yeah :/ idk whats up with that

#

are your psu wires good quality?

#

because otherise, idk

brittle coral
#

dang thats not bad for titanium

mystic hollow
stark bough
#

Wonder how nuch I have. You might beat me :p

misty vigil
#

have two unraid servers folding 24/7 and one of it with two quadro p400 (don't ask) but these seem to fail constantly the last cupple days - any suggestion what could be wrong?

brittle coral
#

i made 70 yesterday ^_^

#

just a bit ago

#

i had 3 rigs but it's turned into 4 and im about to pull the trigger on a 2080ti

#

also just broke 800wu a couple hours before that

misty vigil
#

the # of wu is not really related to points earned?

uneven shore
#

who elses is in theese servers with meh
@rich depot whats that 5th server there?

misty vigil
#

@rich depot I'm @ NZXT and PCMR

stark bough
#

the # of wu is not really related to points earned?
@misty vigil
Nope.
Just because I have 5 Ryzen 1200s and a single RTX 2080, doesnt mean the 1200s will get more PPD.

#

Thats why the tracking site now has the option to choose

misty vigil
#

@stark bough oke thx, so the more powerfull hw the more points for a singe wu

stark bough
#

Depends on the hardware and the WU. All WUs are not created equal.

misty vigil
#

ok depends on depends on depends ๐Ÿ˜† i get it

#

not that it really matters, its all about the competition for the good ๐Ÿ˜™

brittle coral
#

yup thats a thing

#

in other news

#

it happened

#

also i ordered a water block off amazon to go with the rest of my loop

#

cards like that are why some people have over 100mppd with less WU than I've done, people just devote whole rigs to running them lol

misty vigil
#

how much is the 2080ti you ordered?

#

i'm also thinking of getting a waterblock for my 2070s

brittle coral
#

1208 with tax

#

US

#

and i got the corsair hydro x series one

#

i just got their fans, cpu block, and D5 pump/res, figured if i was gonna get a block that was the one to get xD

#

and some ball valves and other things my loop didn't have which will let me remove the different sections as needed without draining the whole thing so i can clean bits

#

also

#

this loop is going to be a bit unique

misty vigil
#

pc parts are always a little bit cheaper in the us than in eu.. that makes me a little bit jealous ๐Ÿ™ˆ

brittle coral
#

because of the layout of my case i can do something unusual, since the res has 3 "inlet" ports im gonna use one as an outlet to run a 2nd pump

#

and put an isolated radiator on the gpu loop but run it off a common water source

misty vigil
#

so kind of parallel with same res

brittle coral
#

i have 3 D5 pumps total including the new one so i still have a spare i can use to charge the loop with extra water once I clean the CPU block of the debris it's gotten yet again (old bits flaking paint and some dust) and add filters on the inlet for both the CPU and GPU loop as well at the valve

#

yea

#

its a dual serial loop

#

technically

#

also

#

because most of the radiator is already on its own loop on the CPU

#

this benefits the GPU side

#

in a loop the water normally reaches an equilibrium temp but this may be a bit off

#

i have temp sensors

#

i just need to add one last sensor on the outlet from the GPU

#

i have a CPU outlet and a res water outlet

misty vigil
#

sounds interesting, never seen or heard that before

brittle coral
#

adding 2 more for both inlets wouldn't let me monitor the res temp unless i get a board with temp sensors as well or another controller cause the corsair commander pro will be maxed out

#

yea i added a flow meter as well for the CPU side

#

and the hydro X series block has it's own

#

so i dont need another for that side

#

i had a loop clog badly last time

#

from old dye

#

im using primochill's reboot to try and clean it out of the parts that i havent cleaned yet

#

theres a couple fittings in the old loop as well and there may still be some dye in it according to the rep

#

even after i acid washed it at 2ph and ran it for 3 days with vodka in it

misty vigil
#

share a pic when it's done

brittle coral
#

basically if you mess up a loop with dye and it gets dry

#

its a nightmare to clean

#

here's how it is now though

#

its sexy af

#

i took the RX580 out because the breaker was tripping in here with all my other stuff so its in another rig now in the garage, and the 5700xt is joining it when the 2080ti is here

misty vigil
#

haha new challenge: clean your loop with vodka and then drink it

#

jk don't

brittle coral
#

no way XD

#

its gross

#

i would rather drink straight everclear

#

and i have done that

#

so i know what im in for

#

hell its within arms reach and i feel like a shot

misty vigil
#

nice

brittle coral
#

sidenote: NEVER just drink straight alcohol without chaser or mixing it

#

but yea

#

loop

#

heres some of my build log

#

before, planning and prototyping

#

wires errywhere

#

prepping the rads

#

the thick bois are alphacool nexxxos monsta rads, first 80mm rad back when they came out

#

i could have bought a window unit instead of all these xD

#

i actually still may

#

now that i know i can add it on a valved section i could add a Y somewhere else and replace the box fan in the window with it with 9 1850rpm fans lol

#

or 16 depending if i need a bigger or smaller one

#

to fit this window

#

dat planning

#

final wiring

#

before the fill

#

but wait

#

this fan hadn't been cleaned in 6 years in the front

#

so i gutted it out to clean both

#

those fans have 100k hours rated lifespan avg

#

xD

#

thanks scythe

#

one of the hard drives they're cooling died before them

#

thats what those 2 8tb drives are for

#

the hitachi failed outright and the 3 samsung HE103UJ (the last best samsung platter drive) are all happy as clams but it's past their time to retire from main line duty

#

they are server drives tho with insane ratings and almost replaced them with similar ones but nope, the newer ones are apparently quite loud

#

as with linus vids

#

always towel off your fill zone

#

i had a giant water explosion not long after this when a giant bubble decided it was time to erupt out the top of my funnel

#

also when these fans aren't in control mode they flash rainbows its really lit lol

#

i like the rainbow wave setting they have but rebooting is a sight in itself

misty vigil
#

shouldn't we change that conversation to #build-a-pc chat? i don't want be blamed for to much offtopic 8)

brittle coral
#

i didn't even see that channel lol i havent looked past this one

#

all this was so i could get my rig in my room stable to fold without it overheating during summer

#

it gets hot as balls

#

but yea im hoping to get 2.5mppd out of that card with a bit of OC

#

assuming it's stable

misty vigil
#

ignore the wooden post, its from an ikea ivar shelf

brittle coral
#

lol no judgement on the post

#

i would have been thrilled if the whole case was made out of sheet metal and 1x2s xD

#

what card?

misty vigil
#

2070s and p400

brittle coral
#

ugh

misty vigil
#

thining of getting a waterblock for the 2070 super, but i don't think i have enough space for additional radiators

brittle coral
#

i was finishing the order for my valves

misty vigil
#

oh no

brittle coral
#

and went to add another fan led hub

#

in case i wanted to order individual fans

#

its w/e i just may pass out before its back up

#

but yea, what's the GPU the p400 uses again?

#

i looked it up but im always so bad at checking this stuff cause i never keep up with the quadro models enough

#

hah i finally found it

#

GT1030 based

#

well i guess for it's power use it's worth the PPD ๐Ÿ™‚

#

cute tho

#

my friend is gonna RMA his 1050ti low profile

#

it takes up 2 slots but it's adorable and comes with a half height bracket as well

#

and its like 2 slots but only a bit more than the length of the PCIe slot

#

once he gets it back he's gonna fold on it next to his 2070 hahaha

misty vigil
#

i run unraid also on my gaming rig with two vms one for gaming other for (planned) streaming and game recording and the p400 is meant for that as i had it laying around

brittle coral
#

fasho makes sense

wraith echo
#

Is there an Android app to monitor FAH instances on multiple machines?

brittle coral
#

not native htat i know of

#

but you can get a VNC viewer app for android

#

and install VNC server on your computer, as long as a monitor is connected you can view it remotely

rich depot
#

You can use HFMnet and set up a website to monitor like some of our members have. But that isn't something I know much about as I have never tried

mystic hollow
#

(no idea why it switched to COVID-19 tho, i do not remember switching it from any disease)

shut halo
#

any will give you any available. Sometimes it is covid related

fickle needle
#

my client doesn't even have COVID listed as a target

regal gate
#

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa we are lose

#

same ian

fickle needle
#

it's not the end of the world, i'm still earning points, and even if I'm not working on COVID tasks every task I finish is a task someone else doesn't have to do

fickle needle
#

other than prioritizing COVID am I gaining any benefits over the 7.5.1 i'm on now?

mystic hollow
#

it might have the work unit viewer fix, it was broken in 7.5.1

still hill
#

Yep 7.6.9 does have the viewer work. But you need to start installing 7.5.1 first to get the GPU to be found.

stark bough
#

if I uninstall and then reinstall F@H, do i keep my logs, do i have to reinput credentials?

fickle needle
#

so wait, 7.6.9 has the protein viewer work with GPU? that's it, i'm sold

#

within 4 hours my current fold will finish and i'll update

hushed bobcat
#

just don't uninstall first @fickle needle

fickle needle
#

gotcha, so just right over the top

hushed bobcat
#

yea

#

if you dont 7.6.9 has a bug where it wont detect your GPU

fickle needle
#

though if I some how screw it up and lose GPU detection, I can uninstall the whole thing and reinstall 7.5.1, right?

hushed bobcat
#

yes

#

the only real difference is the Protein viewer is fixed and you can select Covid from the drop down list

#

i actually uploaded my 7.5.1 version to my GDrive so i can give them to ppl on here

onyx canopy
#

top 7k of Ltt! !

hushed bobcat
#

looks like @brittle coral passed me

fickle needle
#

it kinda irks me that F@H doesn't post a proper changelog, makes it difficult to justify an upgrade

brittle coral
#

@hushed bobcat passed what? ๐Ÿ˜„

#

i just woke up

#

30m ago

#

im guessing you mean passed you on the LTT leaderboard. Is your username the same on the board?

#

in other news my 2080ti is on the way

hushed bobcat
#

yes and yes

brittle coral
#

ive been looking at the 24hr feed

#

makes sense i havent found you on the all time

#

current active processing power is what matters most to me. its what matters now ๐Ÿ˜›

#

as long as you keep that steady you rise the ranks

#

yea you're 579 im 455 on all time team points

#

break 60m in the next hour for LTT

#

i got tons of WU finishing in that time frame

#

8 wu finishing within the next hour and 20 min yea xD

#

most of my slots are about to sync up

#

but just for turn ins ๐Ÿ˜›

brittle coral
#

hey so

#

who is interested in P106-100s

#

the guy who loaned me 2 is giving them to me and has a stack more looking for buyers xD

hushed bobcat
stoic pecan
#

how r u so efficient i'm getting like 140k ppd

hushed bobcat
#

on what hardware @stoic pecan ?

stoic pecan
#

geforce gtx 1050 for gpu (running 24/7) and intel i5-7300HQ (running at night)

hushed bobcat
#

hmm the 1050 alone is probably 150k

#

is the 1050 in a laptop?

#

since that CPU is a mobile variant i'm wondering

stoic pecan
#

ye i'm running it on my laptop

hushed bobcat
#

have you checked your temps while running both the CPU and GPU?

stoic pecan
#

gpu is at a solid 70 degrees celcius

#

and usage is never above 1%

#

idk how to check cpu temp tho

hushed bobcat
#

Windows task manager by default wont show CUDA usage

#

click on the arrow next to one of the graphs and pick either "CUDA" or "Compute_0"

#

many programs can show CPU temp

#

what are you using to show the GPU?

stoic pecan
#

for both i'm using windows task manager

hushed bobcat
#

? I didnt know task manager showed gpu temp?

stoic pecan
hushed bobcat
#

well

#

literally never seen that

#

ahh right

#

you see where it says copy?

#

click that arrow and change to cuda

#

should be 95-100%

stoic pecan
#

how can i check cpu temp

hushed bobcat
#

hmm many options available there

#

I like MSI Afterburner since I use it to over/underclock my GPU

#

HWMonitor is nice and light

#

but honestly if I were you I wouldnt CPU fold on a laptop

#

laptops usually arent made for 24/7 full load on BOTH the CPU and GPU

#

well your only running CPU at night

#

but still thats alot of heat

stoic pecan
#

hmmm ok

#

lol i don't have pc tho ๐Ÿ˜ข

hushed bobcat
#

GPU folding should be fine

#

i mean anything helps the cause

stoic pecan
#

hmmm yeah

hushed bobcat
#

but running your laptop so hot it could possibly damage it is no good

stoic pecan
#

cpu only gives liek 1k points every night

#

i think

hushed bobcat
#

really for CPU you need Cores

#

LOTS of cores

#

for example

#

this is running 30 threads

#

and its still only 140k PPD

stoic pecan
#

oof

#

do u think it's worth

#

to run it on my raspberry pi

hushed bobcat
#

you cant

#

same for Phones

#

those are so low power it wouldn't get the work done in time

#

every WU has a 7 day limit

#

if you take longer to complete it than that it throws the WU out

stoic pecan
#

oh yeah i c it

#

i was thinking of the linux support

#

but it's only 64 bit

hushed bobcat
#

Pi uses ARM right?

stoic pecan
#

ye

#

lol if only i could go to school

#

id set up all the imacs in our tech lab to fold

#

and since school would be paying for electricity i'd be helping with no cost on me

hushed bobcat
#

alot of schools are doing that on there own

#

one of the Folders on here is actually using the Datacenter where he works to Fold

stoic pecan
#

yeah ik but i'm like 100% sure mine isn't

#

coz we've been out since january

#

and i doubt any of the teacher know about folding

#

my tech teacher kinda useless in terms of technology

hushed bobcat
#

right you asked earlier how we got soo many points

#

My 1080 Ti runs 1.5-1.8 Million Points Per Day on its own

#

I bought a used GTX 970 off eBay and it runs about 450k PPD

stoic pecan
#

hmm i c

#

my family just has a bunch of laptops

#

and one 2010 imac

#

but other than that we don't have any PCs or anything liek that

#

plus used parts market in hong kong is like barely existent

hushed bobcat
#

Really?

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I see tons of parts from China on ebay

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idk if they are only selling out of country

mystic hollow
hushed bobcat
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grats

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I was actually going to suggest you buy like a 4 year old gaming rig and put a mining GPU in the second slot

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a mining P106-100 and a GTX 1060 6GB should net you nearly 1 Mil PPD

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for probably $500

mystic hollow
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@hushed bobcat my 1060 6GB limited to 60W does around 350 to 500k

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(actual points per day, not estimates

hushed bobcat
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yea I think they should average 400-450K PPD

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P106 should be about the same

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not 100% sure on that though

mystic hollow
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but imo easiest solution is to get some older prebuilt which has a 6-pin power; or just a random sandy/ivy bridge system, they go for cheap

hushed bobcat
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so both together should be near 1 mil

mystic hollow
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i mean an i5-3470/8GB RAM systems with storage usually go around $200-$250 ?

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and sometimes even cheaper

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and those are ebay prices, local prices might be even better

hushed bobcat
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this would be good

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has 2 slots

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CPU isnt even that old

mystic hollow
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needs RAM, but that is a $35 item for an 8GB stick

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and fans, to actually keep it cool, that is another $15-$40 depending on fan quality ๐Ÿ™‚

stoic pecan
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i don't rly trust parts from China coz lot of them misrepresented

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and in Hong Kong itself barely anyone acc tried to resell used parts

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most ppl just throw stuff out

hushed bobcat
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to the dump!

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get stuff for free

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๐Ÿ˜›

dusk ruin
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do people fold on their laptops?

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is it bad for them?

hushed bobcat
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ppl do yes

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but most laptops arent designed for working 24/7 at 100%

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I have seen a pic on here of someone folding on an ASUS laptop and it expired

dusk ruin
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expired?

hushed bobcat
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it turned off and wouldn't turn back on

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fried

dusk ruin
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oh no

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that's no good

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was the temps really high or just died for no reason

hushed bobcat
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we dont know for sure

dusk ruin
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I am trying to keep my temps down

hushed bobcat
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but it was probably temp related

dusk ruin
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but dont know if it would die if my temps are ok

hushed bobcat
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you usually cant see all your temps

dusk ruin
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true

hushed bobcat
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I'd be more worried about the power delivery overheating

dusk ruin
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what are the stuff that might get really hot and not the cpu or gpu?

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vrms?

hushed bobcat
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yes

dusk ruin
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is there a way to check those?

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or see if it is properly cooled?

hushed bobcat
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you might be able to see VRM temps with HWinfo64

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but they are almost always unlabeled

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so your going to have to let the CPU idle then hit it with an all core load and see what temps go up

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besides the obvious core temp

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on my Mobo the VRM temp is actually TMPIN5

dusk ruin
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dont see unlabeled stuff

hushed bobcat
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i found it in HWiNFO64 and renamed it

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screenshots?

dusk ruin
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what category is it in?

hushed bobcat
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i have no idea

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motherboard?

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mainboard?

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like i said you're going to have to dig

dusk ruin
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there are so many numbers it is it possible to filter all the other numbers liek %

hushed bobcat
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they dont make it easy for some reason

dusk ruin
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like see only temps

hushed bobcat
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maybe but not that I know of

dusk ruin
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I see

hushed bobcat
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i mean

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you can click each one and hide it

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but un-hiding is a pain

dusk ruin
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I guess I will finish this one off and be done with it. I kinda need my computer for other work related stuff

brittle coral
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@hushed bobcat used p106-100 are way cheaper than that

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did you see i just said a bit ago i have over 10 available?

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im expecting them to be available for $80-100 lol

hushed bobcat
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i thought you had 2?

brittle coral
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depending on condition

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no

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im loaned 2

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the guy said he has at LEAST 10 and he had to confirm more

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besides the 2 he loaned me

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i may pick up more for myself idk, but yea

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more like 5 for 500 if someone wanted a deal, assuming their fans work

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if not $80 cause new fans are $20 each on amazon

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each set of 2

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dude is willing to do trade on the 2 i have as well as any more i want so i could potentially just owe him $1000 in pizza if he'll take a bill that large

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but yea, expecting 4-6mppd of available processing power for anyone who wants to pick it up individually or in chunks. i need to see what kind of stash of static bags and other things he has as well for shipping them, since they'd most likely end up in whatever boxes I have available with spare packing material around them as i bet he does not have a stack of over a dozen 1060 sized boxes

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but yea avg 350-500kppd

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rare 500k more like 460k

hushed bobcat
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I might be willing to buy a few

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i never pulled the trigger on the $70 ones on eBay

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glad I didnt

brittle coral
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yea dude i'll text him and let him know i already have interested buyers if you want a few. i need to see condition before guaranteeing prices first though

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and test all of them

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they will come with at least tested fans and brand new TIM

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i just got a 2g tube of arctic MX4 ordered after i lost the last one i just got this year

hushed bobcat
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I would vastly prefer a known name brand over some chinese brand

brittle coral
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they are all gigabyte

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afaik

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i can confirm with him

hushed bobcat
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ohhh

brittle coral
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hence why its easy af to find the fans

hushed bobcat
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i like Gigabyte

brittle coral
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windforce design

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yea my 2060 is from them

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i cheaped out and got it for less than the EVGA cause it was a fair bit less at the time

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i trust them lol

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2080ti thats coming today is EVGA tho

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yes, i saw the 3080 specs, no i dont feel like waiting, especially if lockdown keeps dragging on

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and BET that it will again later this year

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when we get covid 2 electric boogaloo

hushed bobcat
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if you want to give him a number I think i can afford 3 for $300

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with the systems i have available i could probably put 5 to work

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but i just dont have the $$

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ohh and that price is shipped

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now if you could get him to sell me 5 for $300 i would gladly take them ๐Ÿ™‚

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also P106-100 6GB only please

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dont want the P106-90

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sorry being kinda picky here

brittle coral
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thats fine

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im pretty sure they're all 100

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wanna DM me where you're located?

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so i can figure out shipping

hushed bobcat
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done

brittle coral
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dank i'll get back to you after i sleep unless he wakes up early here

lusty cypress
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@here a word of warning. I installed F@H yesterday and the CPU load is rather extreme, when set to full. The tasks are so demanding that my CPU would have run at 93C if I let it run. However when I CPU stress test all cores on CPUZ my system barely even scratches the 75C mark, even after half an hour of stressing.

The GPU however worked through the night and is still at a chill 65C and never higher. It accrues about 40x the credit of a CPU of the same price. So either carefully thermal manage your CPU so it won't be over 90C 24/7 or don't use it at all, since it will most likely only ever be 4% or less of your contribution.

So I decided to mail AMD Tech support. Here is their answer:

Dear [Mithrandir],

[...]

You can use the CPU at 85C-90C for 24/7 operation without any worry about CPU lifespan.

Thank you for contacting AMD.

[...]

I asked for the Ryzen 9 3900x specifically, so take this with a grain of salt if you have a different chip.

mystic hollow
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@lusty cypress Ryzen 3000 series actually have thermally dependant boost, so they will lower clock if cooling is inadequate

lusty cypress
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Is that on the chip itself, independent of OS? Cause when I fold on linux it stayed at 93C

mystic hollow
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it is the chip

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that is why people were reaching so different clocks on 3900x when the CPU came out

hushed bobcat
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More like its built into the BIOS

mystic hollow
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some were reaching at specified single core turbo clocks, others were sometimes few hundred MHz lower

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as you can see, all-core clock scales with temperature, lower temperature = higher clocks

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so if you go too high with temps, CPU will simply start scaling back the clock. i think der8auer even shown the CPU dropping to 800MHz or so if there is no cooling

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9:33 is where the fun starts ๐Ÿ™‚

jade flicker
brittle coral
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yup thats all by design

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its even more intense on the rx5700xt

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you can hit 110c T-junction before it will throttle

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and the core will still be sitting around 75-78c due to hot spot

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and it runs like that voluntarily all day

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it could downclock but the chip thinks it's fine

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when you run a temp logger on it to record the peaks it'll have peaks of 1 15c

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i set a fairly aggressive fan profile to help it along

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depending on the WU it sits between 1880-2000mhz (1905 is default boost but i have it set to 2039)

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this is on a highly performing WU getting nearly 1mppd and fully utilizing my 5700xt

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my 3800x was sitting at 88-93c before i put it on water

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at 4.05ghz

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now its at 4.2ish on water with temps in the 65-80c range (ambient dependent) and its pulling 30 more watts

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thinking of doing some VDDC tweak for more stable load line and opening it up a bit to try for a stable 4.5

jade flicker
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don't think my 1050ti is worth it utilizing, beside I've got a 3950X water cooled and sitting at comfy 60C with 2 F@H processes (each using 16 threads). Not sure I wanna mess with cuda again in Linux to try to utilize the GPU

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also got a GTX 980 Ti idling which probably would be worth using but I've got it reserved for my gaming VM and I can't hot-swap the drivers to use it in Linux

brittle coral
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is there a reason you don't use the full 32t limit in windows for one big old slot?

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also what kind of PPD do you get out of it set that way @jade flicker

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im considering buying a 4950x when they launch, or 4900x depending if they drop 16 cores to that price point

jade flicker
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PPD various a lot, think it averages around 300k

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with it only going to 4GHz

brittle coral
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word thats still more than twice almost 3x as much as a 3800x

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for basically the same power used right

jade flicker
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is there a reason you don't use the full 32t limit in windows for one big old slot?
@brittle coral thought it doesn't make much of a difference if I use 2 slots with each 16T vs. 1 slots with 32t

brittle coral
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you will get more QRB

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using just one

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i've read word that a 3950x is supposed to be about half as fast as a gtx1080

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which would be about as fast as a 1060 for F@H

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and it uses about the same power

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and it's a cpu.......

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๐Ÿ˜„

brittle coral
jade flicker
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gtx1080 is half as fast as a 1060? something doesn't seem right

brittle coral
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in PPD

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for F@H

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not the TI obviously

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based on what I see a 1070 doing these numbers hold up as a decent average for the 1080, it may be a bit higher but either way

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also

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1280 is half of 2560

weary epoch
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a 3950X at 4 GHz can do 2 fp32 teraflops on paper, so there's quite a bit of number crunching power there

brittle coral
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it has exactly half the cores

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yup lol its a lot ๐Ÿ™‚

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but yea on paper, the 1080 has twice the cores at 100mhz faster

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its a bit more than twice realistically

weary epoch
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is that because of the quick return bonus, or is it actually completing the same WUs in half the time?

brittle coral
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its because of QRB and it completes them much faster

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thats what QRB is

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idk if its half the time

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i dont have a 1080 to compare

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jsut the 2080ti thats on the truck

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sometime today, idk if im even gonna sleep

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been up all night

weary epoch
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I have a 1080, but eh, there seem to be no GPU WUs out at the moment

brittle coral
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we will see when my pain meds for my shoulder kick in (its bad today)

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yea

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im having trouble

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my 2060, 1070, and a p106-100 are all idle

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but then my 5700xt gets work instantly

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which is okay, but it also got a WU thats not well optimized for AMD

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xD

weary epoch
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I have a couple of GPUs not idle, but only because they're slow and still crunching units from a day ago

brittle coral
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not terrible either, 600kppd for about 73k

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btw clam

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im about to have a sale on p106-100s

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guy who loaned me 2 is giving them to me for tradeback (food, pizza runs, whatever) and letting me sell the others for a commission once i test and refurb them

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at the v least theyre all getting fresh TIM, arctic MX-4

weary epoch
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nice, just gonna fold with them?