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they are 100% mined to hell and back but if they run
they run
repaste the coolers before you use em i saw a 7c drop on the 1060 miners im using
the heat pipe is directly on the die as well so it helped a ton
i did the glove trick
ultra thin layer
uhh
i found another posting that is VERY similar
except instead of a lot of 6 he has 6 available
seller name is similar
Item location and Shipping are exactly the same
same brand of cards
price is $4 more per card
i guarantee you they made multiple accounts to try and move them faster while obfuscating who the seller is
make sure you use paypal XD
buyer protection ftw
i hate how rigid they are about it for good sellers who get fucked over by shitty asshole buyers who scam people
always use Paypal
but its cause of sellers like that XD
people in china with a US proxy or something especially
@cerulean oriole this is the disparity im talking about.
i clipped it out but the first one is 14549 project
5700xt should not be slower than an RX580
xD
oh nvm i didnt clip it haha
@hushed bobcat this is why we can't have nice things
My 5700 is faster than either of those
@brittle coral unless im reading that wrong your XT is doing 100k more ppd than your RX 580
i mean its still awful
Its doing less
The 5700xt is the slower one
@cerulean oriole mine is too but its that specific WU
I get 50-70% gpu utilization
When I get one of those I just go game on the excess rather than pausing
Doesn't slow it much
jesus
seems I've fallen victim to the no GPU bug with F@H too.
tried to copy the GPU.txt and restart, but no difference (web control shows progress, app shows connecting/inactive).
planning on reinstalling immediately after finishing this CPU WU
turns out there's is a beta version that seems to have fixed the GPU issue.
reached 100M ๐
dude idk how, but even with the rig down for several hours today i still managed to raise my all time high for PPD o_O
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@hushed bobcat how much we betting my rig still randomly shuts off xD
RGB fixes everything @brittle coral
Nice.
@vernal oasis NICE! 100M That's crazy! Send the link to the profile? How high are you on the leaderboard?
@vernal oasis i tried to find you on the XOC stats page but i can't tell if the guy under your name on LTT is even active cause it says 0 active PPD lol. https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/search.php plug your name in here i wanna see your stats over time
yeah, I looked and he's there, latest points going to My_Playhouse or something.
Last LTT WU was around 2wks ago
yeee
no judgement, i folded for PCMR at the beginning asnd freely admit it because i came here from reddit xD
was anandtech boy in the early days
Meanwhile, I keep getting in the sh!t with the Minister for Finance and Recreation for leaving the rig on.
Trying to save money as we've been burning it buying overpriced groceries, so she's getting a bit peeved when the rig is on :-(
Trying to convince her we've saving lives, missing out on around 7mil PPD because of it.
ooof
yea my farm is at 4.5-5-5 now unless i can get a 2080ti to take the place of the 1060 3gb, then i'll be at 7ish
I saw there's a 2060 KO or something from EVGA that's supposedly highly rated (and quite cheap)
nearly bought one myself but when missus found out about the 2x 8TB HDD's I bought, she hit the roof. lol.
Trying to recover a broken LaCie 5Big (eyeing off a Synology DS1019+) so new GPUs are nowhere near the top of my to-do list for the time being. lol
would make an alright folding GPU
Gamers Nexus seems to believe they're a 2080 in disguise
no judgement, i folded for PCMR at the beginning asnd freely admit it because i came here from reddit xD
@brittle coral You have been judged, in to the naughty corner with you
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im a dirty street walker and i play for whatever team i feel like xD
you guys just happen to be the most helpful rn
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plus always play for the winning team lol
xD mostly i like having people to compete with and LTT had a good lineup at the top
lol, if I could leave my machine on for a few days, I swear I'd just make it to top 10,000 in LTT... only to lose positions hand over fist whilst making things up with SWMBO.
lol word
yea im just cranking away on 2 rigs while one games intermittently
i forgot to pause my 5700xt before sitting down to eat and it started a fresh WU right as i went to load witcher 3 so yesterday and today both are lower than avg for me but w/e i use my rig for other things sometimes too sue me ๐
I'm thinking of putting together a 400-600W capture box.
been playing in the living room now on console and I'd like to have w camera pointed at me and my bro while we game and with the console playing.
lol word
i dont care about streaming to others, I just want to save the console experiences we share together
might be microATX perferabbly. i need to be able to move it around. Also been wondering if I can use it to record shows from my dad's DVR.
duno if thats going to be what. $500-700?
idek lol i havent looked in forever at what's good for waht
but yea with the 1600af out you can do that and put a 6 core in it for $85 xD idk if you need IGP tho
Hoping to set it up where it automatically compresses inputted videos to 100 MB per 10 min. a 'console/camera setup for 200 MB/10 min'. probably shuck a bunch of eaststores before they all go SMR.
i never done streaming, but i imagine that would be the setup
i'd probably need microatx if i needed a video card AND a capture card. ATX seems a bit too big.
yea microatx sounds about right if youre not tryina o to big
ITX def to small unless you wanna rely on IGP
and even then its iffy imo
I'd also like to record local TV broadcasts/commercials
mostly news.
and when its not being used, put in the work for folding, lol
4 HDD bays sound about right? i think ill forgo Optical to increase airflow/lower form factor
gonna be living room so dust filtration is important.
ZFS and maybe use the drive as a cache and do it all as one big one
might do a micro atx with a nvme boot, second m.2 as cache, and do 2 raid 1s. one for the game recordings. one for media capture.
or just pool em all together
i do 2 raid 1s
i dont have the drives cached
i could tho
but im gonna move to a cached ZFS config eventually
I just feel more comfortable running a storage poon on a NAS thats not running any other software.
Small, Great Filters, Support for 5 Drives
you can save a few $$ and get the one without the glass side panel
Thats the template i was considering. didnt like the 'washable filters' as they seem to be a foam and not a mesh
i already have the standard C.
oh thats the define, not the meshify. still.
i just wish they made the Define R6 as a microATX. i LOVE the door.
i dont like wearing out the plastic
it relys on a plastic snap on to remove it
ugh please kill me
im at like a 7-8 out of 10 on the pain scale i think i injured both my shoulders putting my rig back up xD
i had a friend help carry it in from the garage but everything's fucked today anyway lmfao. pinched nerves in both. now i remember why i didnt redo it for so long lmfao
i need valve sealing quick disconnects and a totally separate radiator box or something to save on weight
technically i have the separate box just not the disconnects
geez, how much does your rig weigh again?
uh
idek
its got 3 radiators, about 2 liters of water, 4 hard drives, 2 GPUs, 750w PSU, 13 fans, and a D5 pump and block for cpu all adds up
based on the pain to lift it tho
easily 100lb
either that or im totally fucked out of shape rn and its less, but i have a much much easier time lifting my 83lb klipsch KP-301s than this rig right now
hell i have an easier time lifting my 115lb friend but she also puts a lot of that weight on my waist xD
this is like lifting a corpse
a deer corpse
it was worth it tho for how great it looks rn
and the performance cooling it
im STILL hitting 70-83c range from 83-95 (throttle) but its also clocking higher on it's own and drawing more power for it now so it makes sense
and im totally fine with that xD its stable
100lb ??? geez. glad I only had air cooling on my 4x GPU workstation. lol
its easily 70lb without the water and rads
lol
hard drives mang
steel
the good stuff
haha
heaviest rig I tried to lift was my 10x GPU mining rig (with 2x 1500w PSUs).
weighed a ton, not sure exactly how much, but it was damn heavy.
ive got room for another power supply if i want to go 3 chambered again
used to use that chamber for 2nd set of rads
still might again
That's a pretty meaty system then, must be a monster case.
haf 935 stacker with 2 915 modules
not yet lol
@onyx canopy my temps are stable now with 200mhz more avg oc than before
my back is in hella pain
on cpu ?
i legit just almost passed out from exhaustion
yea
boost was throttling before
at like 75-85w
how we holding up in FAH?
boutta sleep
hella in pain, i almost passed out a few hours ago from exhaustion then broke a glass funnel and cleaning that up woke me up so i was up a bit more lol
worth tho, water loop is done
may need to open the block up to clean some debris out of it that i see building up (thank fuck for acrylic topped blocks this time), thinking i might drain and reloop it if i can find a good way to do so without messing other stuff up on my rig lol
just redo the connect from the rad and out from the block to the res with valves so i can remove and clean it if need be
How can I add my NVIDIA GPU on the panel on Linux?
nvm, i got it
Overheating?
What is the fan at?
Just thinking. That is an odd fluctuation.
fan speed doesn't matter on desktop
like it has no corrilation to performance as long as temps are the same
My CPU was doing that when the voltage regulators for the cpu were overheating. Even though the CPU was cool enough
I am pretty sure the voltage is not overheating
well.. u can't see that on nvidia so lol
Well if I am seeing dips in game FPS. I am bringing it to the store after this Corona thing lol
Is there a chance I broke it from running F@H 24/7?
Doubtful.
They should take a 24/7 for a few years. Unless they overheat or something with no issues
How will the shop be able to check if it overheated?
Anyhow. If it overheats, it should turn itself off right?
So I read this article published by F@H
And they say they distribute the projects like a jackpot
And see if they manage to hit one
Is there a chance I got one? Because it wasn't like this in the last project
No the up and down is not normal.
Well there is a chance that it is that because I played Cities Skylines with like 50 mods and 100 DLCs
It used 13GB ram and a lot of CPU usage. Idk how it impacts the GPU
Like 40% on my 9900k for a game is considered a lot
Compared to other games which only use 12% lol
It should not break a gpu. No matter what the game did. Or even what F@H does.
Well I will just get this task completed and see the next tast
Well I'm off to nap. Reboot my brain. Later 
What. There is an official folding @ home discord
What do I here?
well, it says FAHClient is already running. so try to stop it first ?
@rich depot thats normal, some WU process chunks then move data around and you'll see a drop in processing for a sec. it's even more pronounced with AMD, with some cards only hitting 50-70% utilization. it's those kind of wU i don't pause when i decide to go game while folding on my 5700xt xD
@onyx canopy it happened again on a warmer day. woke up and my rig had shut off. im going to order a new PSU (UGH I JUST REDID ALL THE WIRING PRETTY) and a UPS as well. if the UPS doesn't solve the issue i'll install the new PSU. this one is out of warranty so if there's something wrong it's time to chuck it in a bin anyway lol. i doubt there's anything wrong based on voltage info and it's prob the dip that's happening, but if i get a UPS and it keeps up i want a backup lol
pretty sure UPS is non factor here
Just finished my first "fold". Super cool!
@foggy anchor , a reboot can sometimes clear that up. Had an issue like that on my 2nd PC that runs Mint Mate when I first installed F@H. Seems those WUs are hanging up the client from doing a clean start up. You could also do a kill command on those processes and then re-try starting the client. But yes, as Parandroid stated, the last few lines state that the client is already running on PID 12649. A way to double check, fire the command top or htop off to see what processes are running.
Anyone else had issues with overclocked GPUs failing WU's? OC is game stable so I dont think it's an unstable OC
@onyx canopy imn pretty sure it is, breaker just tripped again lol
it was fine for 2 cool days and now its hot again and its tripping cause the mini fridge and freezer are spinning up more often
I have a quadro card installed but it doesn't ever find any work. Do I need to change settings in the program?
@lament shuttle your OC is unstable
it just isn't unstable in games
enough to produce artifacts
pull it back
if you're erroring out WUs that's not cool for the project cause they have to then determine if they fucked up or you fucked up
and someone else is later reissued the WU
in the logs it literally asks you when it happens if you're OCing
because this is so common
WU rarely error for any other reason
this is why when OCing you always want to find a stable point, and then back the OC up further from it to be sure
and even then, if it's a really aggressive OC you may need to pull back further for it to be stable to fold on. if you want to fold without it happening the safest bet is really just to downclock it to near stock, or at least within the range of the boost OC
my RX580 didn't like more than 60mhz of OC before it'd error, my 5700x let me increase the boost till it caused thermal throttling issues without problem cause boost is lit
and most importantly, factory validated
@brittle coral why don't you have your pc plugged into the wall ?
are you afraid of thunder?
surges
breaker tripped again, looks like im putting the RX580 on finish to see if it stabilizes things. prob gonna get the UPS anyway because i've been wanting one for a long time regardless, to see if i can get things sorted. without the fridge and freezer both spinning up things should be fine, both of them are only rated for a few hundred watts each of sustained draw when they are on at all lol. The biggest improvement i can get is replacing the dang incandescent bulbs over our dining table which are apparently on the same circuit even tho they're in the next room, and swap em for LED ones
@onyx canopy welp, i blew the breaker while the rig was idling this time xD i paused everything and it still happened. something else fucky is going on so im geting that 1500va UPS just because i need monitoring anyway. my step-dad and I both think it's something to do with all the PFC power supplies overdrawing the amps because of voltage drop, but we don't know what's causing it or if it's even that without something that can log it continuously AFTER the power shuts off, which requires battery backup xD
my plan to verify this issue for now is to turn my fridge/freezer off for al ittle bit so they have to spin back up
let everything idle basically and then cause a sudden load and see what happens
ironically
it looks like the single biggest item that is causing droop is the 5 incandescent light fixture in the next room. every other item including my PC has a max variance of 1-2v except the PC which can hit 3-4v of droop from boot to full load but it isnt all at once either. the fixture is 3-4v despite drawing less than half the watts of my PC
so then all the many PFC power supplies in my room overdraw the amp limit when im still only at something like 1900/2400w on circuit before it should blow
Why did you just type like 50 paragraphs.
i typed 3 lol. ive been troubleshooting this issue for 2 weeks and bloom has been helping as have others
my main folding rig and some other things together started popping the breaker when it was stable before and we're trying to figure out why even tho its under the breaker's limit
most people don't provide nearly as much info as I do when troubleshooting cause they don't do it for a living ๐
i do troubleshooting for a living pretty much also
How old is the Mini Fridge? didn't think mini's drew that much. The one we've got barely pulls anything.
im thinking its because it's old
i got it 2009-2010 freezer is 6m-1y younger
the issue is the whole circuit is just taxed more than it should. it's shocking (hah) that 5 incandescent bulbs can really drop the power by THAT much. I've been using all LEDs for years and i switched the rest of the house to them, but my mom loves the look of incandescent so all 5 bulbs over the dining table have it. im going to look into LED replicas that cast the same kind of simulated glow using strip shaped diodes sort of in the shape of incandescent bulbs. I've seen em for other bulbs, i need em for those elongated torpedo bulbs that are only like 1" wide
that would save me 20% of the total drop on the line xD
Its slightly horrifying to think of how much power incandescent used before lighting elements evolved. I've seen similar looking ones at Home Depot, but there is always the internet 
It's a shame that most places want to charge a butt-ton for a single LED bulb. It's bothersome, but heyy. its RGB baby! 
so my step-dad agrees
the bulbs are to bright
and the fact that my mom got rid of the dimmer makes it worse
he still agrees it's my fault the power is dropping because im most of the draw, but i brought the voltmeter out to the outlet in the dining room which is on that circuit
i plugged it in and then flipped hte lights on in front of him and he watched it drop himself xD
he's a realist, so i brought him reality
right now im literally cycling my F@H slots so that one is idle while the other folds to clear my WUs out on this rig, im not running my RX580 even in the case till i can get things stable. I also have the option to loan the card to a friend whose rig is here for fixing, since he's got free power and it's cold enough at night where he is that he'll let me fold on it at least part of the day lol
also i turned all my fans down a notch and that got me another 2.5v off the line sag so its prob stable now
Why is so much stuff on the same breaker
And how big is the breaker
when we had the whole house redone and some circuits added in the garage for dedicated power to the server room (where my other gear all is stable split between 2 circuits) someone fucked up this one circuit
its a 20a line
but theres 2 outlets and 2 light fixtures on it in another room and outside the house
on the same wall
also we had a 2nd 20a that went to the server room and also to the entrance of the garage for power taps to run out the door and that circuit wasnt updated internally or at any of the outlets and so it literally burned through at one point, and then again at another which properly killed the feed entirely, we had that fixed since
the rest of it is all from a standard 200a residential drop
I mean why do you have a fridge in your room?
because i needed the space
our fridge isnt big enough, and at the time my young sister was stealing my stuff
I guess you are US/Canada?
the fridge sits mostly filled with drinks and the freezer is filled with food always
yea
120/60hz =/
but in my room rn its more like 105
i wish i had 240/50 service
that would be far more stable
Because 20A isn't used on normal things in homes here
yea lol
all the house circuits for rooms in most homes are 20a
its standard
the power strips are usually tripped internally to 15a as well
but you can easily overload a 20a with a couple of separate strips
10-16A is normal here
a 16a 240 is the equiv of a 30a here
230v
i'd love to have that xD
230V/240V master race
right
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wtf edison!
its all edison standards for real
this shit was designed originally in the 19th century and we just kept adding bigger wires
.........
Well, Edison liked DC power first
don't get me started on your wire gauges lol
right xD
in wall is 12/3 a lot of the time when it should be 10/3 for overhead
12/3 is what i get in my pro rated extensions
but we have a 50a twist thats 8/3 i think
Those numbers don't mean anything to me :P
er no thats 4/3, the 30a is 8/3
8 gauge 3 wire
the first is the gauge the 2nd is the wire, afaik they label it that way elsewhere its just in mm/count instead
16A here is 2,5mm2
get to 0 gauge size then you're all like, oh crap we f'd up lol
And 10-13 ish A is 1,5mm2
i helped a friend crimp a 0awg hot wire for an amp lead
he wasnt strong enough
that lead was the size of a pinky
and it was solid core
i have apparently more grip power than some vices when i can get my whole hand on a crimper
I don't know how large whatever "gauge" is at all because we don't use it and it sucks
^^ agreed
i thin we're all with you on that xD
but im stuck with it so here we are ๐คช
At work motors and stuff is running on 400v 3 phase :)
when you have an actual measuring system but you make up your own units
could have just used inch fractions but oh nooo
And some of the biggest motors are dual 95mm2 cable
It's a pain to do anything with, luckily I am becoming an Automation electrician and not just an electrician
So I won't have to deal with them if motor need changing or whatever
oh nice
having the opinion of an actual electrician is useful right now given my problem
Well, I am an apprentice
so, the line is supposed to be 120v, but im sitting at like 103v when i turn my fans up the way i want xD
well I'm a "i haven't died yet so we good right?"
i think my PSU's PFC cut off is 90v
and ive been having random PC shutdowns ๐
and now as it has gotten hotter the breaker also started tripping some ๐
thats what ive been dealing with
and leadeater and bloom and I have been banging our heads against it testing stuff
Btw
turns out that light in the dining room is a real juicer
There are both good and bad LEDs
I've had so many LED lights fail from overheating
i havent yet thankfully
it's a real problem on the 230v ones
I have heard some buy the cheapest ones and then complain about bad light quality
i use 4 strips currently in my room allthose standard cut em off in sections of 3 LEDs, the cheap ones
hahaha
yea obviously
Luckily that is little bit better now than for some years ago but still
cheap ones sometimes have a friggin flicker built in
to dim a brighter LED
some people can see it, especially when on psychoactive substances, and itll cause tracers in vision even sober
when moving
Europe is switching to LEDs only by regulation
ive heard of people with seizure disorders who respond to light not knowing and having to return bulbs for it cause there's no manufacturers warning
even tho the circuit itself comes with one
I used to build LED microlight glove sets to use at raves a few years back
odd cos fluro isn't too bad
its the same circuit they use in those
only it's by design in those gloves to create the strobe efect
not led efficient but a hell of a lot better
yea i told my step-dad i was switching the house over on their dime when we ran out of incandescent bulbs and he was cool with it, by regulation you can still get lower wattage ones here but most of them now are halogen simulated bulbs and they burn out really fast
less power than traditional but less reliable, manufacturers love it!
lol
Some lamps where designed with only incandescent or halogen bulbs do make LED bulbs run hotter than they should
And they die faster
Because lack of ventilation or other ways
When supply runs out you can't get halogen bulbs here that isn't those tiny ones anymore here
leadeater we have a ton of those
one has died so far
but the rest have been far more reliable than their filament counterparts
the filament ones were even hotter
and it killed them as well
i found some that use very little power though
like 8w or something vs 60 for the filament ones
8w LED? you trying to blind people?
i have 2 dif ones in there, some from amazon and another pack that i just used the last one of cause our last filament bulb died
these are for spot lighting, the beam is wider
they're angled a bit in the chassis
and it's the total draw of the device, idk if all of it is spent on the LEDs
probably more like 5w of LED and 3w of loss to conversion from AC to DC
lol
tiny converters are always terrible
not enough cooling and room for components that are efficient
yea my moml likes bright
so i found matching bulbs to the filament ones in lumens
it looks like most of them are 5 single bulbs in an array but i have one socket as the test socket for the other bulbs, those are a single 5w diode with a diffuser lens
those individual contacts, thats what i had to crimp for my homeboy
one of the donut ends onto a solid core around half that thickness
Dual 95mm2
he's got an extra 100lb of lift power on me but I can crush things with my hands xD
@silver wing was it you who said you have APC UPS only?
Eaton at home, APC at work
Should be fine, don't really use cheaper units myself
I've had bad experiences in the past with units like that but that's really from people not replacing the battery when they should
APC is not in the habit of making and selling junk either
yea
and the battery is also available on amazon
all our other UPS in the house are APC
I may be 30 but my step-dad pays the power bills and always buys good stuff, he said make sure to get one that's the same or higher standard and thats what i woulda done anyway xD
plus, if he decides to get a bigger one, we can have a spare battery for whichever one needs it first
we have a set of spares for the other 3 or 4 that are scattered around
also a pair of ancient APCs that require more advanced deconstruction (you have to fully disassemble the case and then desolder the battery leads) but idk if they even have batteries for small ones that old now
anyone having trouble getting work again?
my 3 fastest slots are all idle and one of them has a WU its been unable to send for half a day now
it's attempted 14 times
aye and when i g to check them al and pause/play the ones that are on long timers, the 980ti is the only one that gets work xD, go figure the slowest one would
i only get CPU WUs
cool 10 hour cpu wu
11:55:13:WU02:FS01:Upload 100.00%
11:56:50:WU02:FS01:Upload complete
11:56:50:WU02:FS01:Server responded WORK_QUIT (404)
11:56:50:WARNING:WU02:FS01:Server did not like results, dumping
11:56:50:WU02:FS01:Cleaning up```
I'm dissapointed right now after that hard work
was it a cpu or gpu WU?
usually when that happens it's due to an unstable overclock.
isnt it usually more common for it to error during the unit's processing time?
that's what i see when it's an unstable OC
not always, it may not be unstable enough to fail the WU during processing but something in the file becomes corrupt.
back in the day there use to be a way to exploit the point system running WU's meant for fermi cards on 8k series cards where you got double the points a fermi card would get but the WU would always be returned corrupted but still got the points.
ugh finally
someone reliable listed a 2080ti for a price im willing to pay
refurb/RMAed but he is willing to help honor the original warranty as well and i trust him, which is good through till the end of next year
guess i'm getting that card after all lmao, folding city here i come
gpu WU
and for sure Sirmokey that makes sense
No, the reason why it failed is that I took too long to upload it
i just havent seen it lol
oh what
yea ive seen it take forever but thats wack
usually it uploads eventually
No, like my upload rate here in my area is literally 8Kb/s
WAT
thats whack af
PH net always sucks
Not to mention, it's 3G
No such thing as DSL, fiber, or LTE in my place
Like, compare the time from the log
01:56:31:WU02:FS01:Connecting to 3.21.157.11:8080
01:56:40:WU02:FS01:Upload 0.08%
01:56:54:WU02:FS01:Upload 0.16%
01:57:17:WU02:FS01:Upload 0.23%
01:58:24:WU02:FS01:Upload 0.39%
02:00:03:WU02:FS01:Upload 0.47%
02:01:24:WU02:FS01:Upload 0.63%
~~~~~
10:54:10:WU02:FS01:Upload 89.25%
10:55:27:WU02:FS01:Upload 89.41%
10:56:32:WU02:FS01:Upload 89.64%
10:57:41:WU02:FS01:Upload 89.88%
10:58:44:WU02:FS01:Upload 90.11%```
It started uploading on 1am UTC
and almost ended at 11am UTC
no, almost 12nn
Only if my ISP fixes their crappy net and upgrading it to LTE, maybe I have no problems uploading project and maybe begin streaming
me feeling bad with my unnecessary one gigabit
I'm feeling it man
i'm sitting here with a dummy thicc connection folding with a GTS 450
man its been super dead in here (this channel) since PCMR started their super long F@H giveaway lol
Whar giveaway?
they're giving away over 20k in free shit at least throughout april and may
but you gotta do a bunch to prove participation. they structured it so people can hop teams for a day or 2 for the prizes they want and then leave again as well
or only fold for those days and stop lmao
thats why PCMR is so high on the board
when they were doing piss all before
ironically their production rate still trails way behind LTT even after the drop in LTT's
Interesting, so on some WU my PC will BSOD with a "driver not less or equal" error
BUT if i set the power limit on my 1080 Ti to 85% it will work fine (even starting from the last save point on the very WU that BSOD'd me)
looks like I pull about 210 Watts at 85% vs around 250 at 100%
clocks are 1835 @ 85% vs 1936 @ 100%
your gpu has too much powaaaaa reeee
the board is rated for 375W tho....
heh yeah :/ idk whats up with that
are your psu wires good quality?
because otherise, idk
dang thats not bad for titanium
Soon(TM)
Wonder how nuch I have. You might beat me :p
tbh i use more than one clients ๐
have two unraid servers folding 24/7 and one of it with two quadro p400 (don't ask) but these seem to fail constantly the last cupple days - any suggestion what could be wrong?
i made 70 yesterday ^_^
just a bit ago
i had 3 rigs but it's turned into 4 and im about to pull the trigger on a 2080ti
also just broke 800wu a couple hours before that
the # of wu is not really related to points earned?
who elses is in theese servers with meh
@rich depot whats that 5th server there?
@rich depot I'm @ NZXT and PCMR
the # of wu is not really related to points earned?
@misty vigil
Nope.
Just because I have 5 Ryzen 1200s and a single RTX 2080, doesnt mean the 1200s will get more PPD.
Thats why the tracking site now has the option to choose
@stark bough oke thx, so the more powerfull hw the more points for a singe wu
Depends on the hardware and the WU. All WUs are not created equal.
ok depends on depends on depends ๐ i get it
not that it really matters, its all about the competition for the good ๐
yup thats a thing
in other news
it happened
also i ordered a water block off amazon to go with the rest of my loop
cards like that are why some people have over 100mppd with less WU than I've done, people just devote whole rigs to running them lol
how much is the 2080ti you ordered?
i'm also thinking of getting a waterblock for my 2070s
1208 with tax
US
and i got the corsair hydro x series one
i just got their fans, cpu block, and D5 pump/res, figured if i was gonna get a block that was the one to get xD
and some ball valves and other things my loop didn't have which will let me remove the different sections as needed without draining the whole thing so i can clean bits
also
this loop is going to be a bit unique
pc parts are always a little bit cheaper in the us than in eu.. that makes me a little bit jealous ๐
because of the layout of my case i can do something unusual, since the res has 3 "inlet" ports im gonna use one as an outlet to run a 2nd pump
and put an isolated radiator on the gpu loop but run it off a common water source
so kind of parallel with same res
i have 3 D5 pumps total including the new one so i still have a spare i can use to charge the loop with extra water once I clean the CPU block of the debris it's gotten yet again (old bits flaking paint and some dust) and add filters on the inlet for both the CPU and GPU loop as well at the valve
yea
its a dual serial loop
technically
also
because most of the radiator is already on its own loop on the CPU
this benefits the GPU side
in a loop the water normally reaches an equilibrium temp but this may be a bit off
i have temp sensors
i just need to add one last sensor on the outlet from the GPU
i have a CPU outlet and a res water outlet
sounds interesting, never seen or heard that before
adding 2 more for both inlets wouldn't let me monitor the res temp unless i get a board with temp sensors as well or another controller cause the corsair commander pro will be maxed out
yea i added a flow meter as well for the CPU side
and the hydro X series block has it's own
so i dont need another for that side
i had a loop clog badly last time
from old dye
im using primochill's reboot to try and clean it out of the parts that i havent cleaned yet
theres a couple fittings in the old loop as well and there may still be some dye in it according to the rep
even after i acid washed it at 2ph and ran it for 3 days with vodka in it
share a pic when it's done
basically if you mess up a loop with dye and it gets dry
its a nightmare to clean
here's how it is now though
its sexy af
i took the RX580 out because the breaker was tripping in here with all my other stuff so its in another rig now in the garage, and the 5700xt is joining it when the 2080ti is here
no way XD
its gross
i would rather drink straight everclear
and i have done that
so i know what im in for
hell its within arms reach and i feel like a shot
nice
sidenote: NEVER just drink straight alcohol without chaser or mixing it
but yea
loop
heres some of my build log
before, planning and prototyping
wires errywhere
prepping the rads
the thick bois are alphacool nexxxos monsta rads, first 80mm rad back when they came out
i could have bought a window unit instead of all these xD
i actually still may
now that i know i can add it on a valved section i could add a Y somewhere else and replace the box fan in the window with it with 9 1850rpm fans lol
or 16 depending if i need a bigger or smaller one
to fit this window
dat planning
final wiring
before the fill
but wait
this fan hadn't been cleaned in 6 years in the front
so i gutted it out to clean both
those fans have 100k hours rated lifespan avg
xD
thanks scythe
one of the hard drives they're cooling died before them
thats what those 2 8tb drives are for
the hitachi failed outright and the 3 samsung HE103UJ (the last best samsung platter drive) are all happy as clams but it's past their time to retire from main line duty
they are server drives tho with insane ratings and almost replaced them with similar ones but nope, the newer ones are apparently quite loud
as with linus vids
always towel off your fill zone
i had a giant water explosion not long after this when a giant bubble decided it was time to erupt out the top of my funnel
also when these fans aren't in control mode they flash rainbows its really lit lol
i like the rainbow wave setting they have but rebooting is a sight in itself
shouldn't we change that conversation to #build-a-pc chat? i don't want be blamed for to much offtopic 8)
i didn't even see that channel lol i havent looked past this one
all this was so i could get my rig in my room stable to fold without it overheating during summer
it gets hot as balls
but yea im hoping to get 2.5mppd out of that card with a bit of OC
assuming it's stable
so well this is one of my folding rigs - and also my gaming rig
ignore the wooden post, its from an ikea ivar shelf
lol no judgement on the post
i would have been thrilled if the whole case was made out of sheet metal and 1x2s xD
what card?
2070s and p400
ugh
thining of getting a waterblock for the 2070 super, but i don't think i have enough space for additional radiators
oh no
and went to add another fan led hub
in case i wanted to order individual fans
its w/e i just may pass out before its back up
but yea, what's the GPU the p400 uses again?
i looked it up but im always so bad at checking this stuff cause i never keep up with the quadro models enough
hah i finally found it
GT1030 based
well i guess for it's power use it's worth the PPD ๐
cute tho
my friend is gonna RMA his 1050ti low profile
it takes up 2 slots but it's adorable and comes with a half height bracket as well
and its like 2 slots but only a bit more than the length of the PCIe slot
once he gets it back he's gonna fold on it next to his 2070 hahaha
i run unraid also on my gaming rig with two vms one for gaming other for (planned) streaming and game recording and the p400 is meant for that as i had it laying around
fasho makes sense
Is there an Android app to monitor FAH instances on multiple machines?
not native htat i know of
but you can get a VNC viewer app for android
and install VNC server on your computer, as long as a monitor is connected you can view it remotely
You can use HFMnet and set up a website to monitor like some of our members have. But that isn't something I know much about as I have never tried
In 4 hours...
(no idea why it switched to COVID-19 tho, i do not remember switching it from any disease)
any will give you any available. Sometimes it is covid related
my client doesn't even have COVID listed as a target
it's not the end of the world, i'm still earning points, and even if I'm not working on COVID tasks every task I finish is a task someone else doesn't have to do
@fickle needle you need latest version
you need the 7.6.9 version for the COVID-19 option
other than prioritizing COVID am I gaining any benefits over the 7.5.1 i'm on now?
it might have the work unit viewer fix, it was broken in 7.5.1
Yep 7.6.9 does have the viewer work. But you need to start installing 7.5.1 first to get the GPU to be found.
if I uninstall and then reinstall F@H, do i keep my logs, do i have to reinput credentials?
so wait, 7.6.9 has the protein viewer work with GPU? that's it, i'm sold
within 4 hours my current fold will finish and i'll update
just don't uninstall first @fickle needle
gotcha, so just right over the top
though if I some how screw it up and lose GPU detection, I can uninstall the whole thing and reinstall 7.5.1, right?
yes
the only real difference is the Protein viewer is fixed and you can select Covid from the drop down list
i actually uploaded my 7.5.1 version to my GDrive so i can give them to ppl on here
top 7k of Ltt! !
looks like @brittle coral passed me
it kinda irks me that F@H doesn't post a proper changelog, makes it difficult to justify an upgrade
@hushed bobcat passed what? ๐
i just woke up
30m ago
im guessing you mean passed you on the LTT leaderboard. Is your username the same on the board?
in other news my 2080ti is on the way
yes and yes
ive been looking at the 24hr feed
makes sense i havent found you on the all time
current active processing power is what matters most to me. its what matters now ๐
as long as you keep that steady you rise the ranks
yea you're 579 im 455 on all time team points
this is my current total
break 60m in the next hour for LTT
i got tons of WU finishing in that time frame
8 wu finishing within the next hour and 20 min yea xD
most of my slots are about to sync up
but just for turn ins ๐
hey so
who is interested in P106-100s
the guy who loaned me 2 is giving them to me and has a stack more looking for buyers xD
NVIDIA's next-gen GeForce RTX 3080 Ti gets teased in leaked specs, packs an insane 8192 cores with Ampere
how r u so efficient i'm getting like 140k ppd
on what hardware @stoic pecan ?
geforce gtx 1050 for gpu (running 24/7) and intel i5-7300HQ (running at night)
hmm the 1050 alone is probably 150k
is the 1050 in a laptop?
since that CPU is a mobile variant i'm wondering
ye i'm running it on my laptop
have you checked your temps while running both the CPU and GPU?
gpu is at a solid 70 degrees celcius
and usage is never above 1%
idk how to check cpu temp tho
Windows task manager by default wont show CUDA usage
click on the arrow next to one of the graphs and pick either "CUDA" or "Compute_0"
many programs can show CPU temp
what are you using to show the GPU?
for both i'm using windows task manager
? I didnt know task manager showed gpu temp?
ye lol
well
literally never seen that
ahh right
you see where it says copy?
click that arrow and change to cuda
should be 95-100%
hmm many options available there
I like MSI Afterburner since I use it to over/underclock my GPU
HWMonitor is nice and light
but honestly if I were you I wouldnt CPU fold on a laptop
laptops usually arent made for 24/7 full load on BOTH the CPU and GPU
well your only running CPU at night
but still thats alot of heat
hmmm yeah
but running your laptop so hot it could possibly damage it is no good
really for CPU you need Cores
LOTS of cores
for example
this is running 30 threads
and its still only 140k PPD
you cant
same for Phones
those are so low power it wouldn't get the work done in time
every WU has a 7 day limit
if you take longer to complete it than that it throws the WU out
Pi uses ARM right?
ye
lol if only i could go to school
id set up all the imacs in our tech lab to fold
and since school would be paying for electricity i'd be helping with no cost on me
alot of schools are doing that on there own
one of the Folders on here is actually using the Datacenter where he works to Fold
yeah ik but i'm like 100% sure mine isn't
coz we've been out since january
and i doubt any of the teacher know about folding
my tech teacher kinda useless in terms of technology
right you asked earlier how we got soo many points
My 1080 Ti runs 1.5-1.8 Million Points Per Day on its own
I bought a used GTX 970 off eBay and it runs about 450k PPD
hmm i c
my family just has a bunch of laptops
and one 2010 imac
but other than that we don't have any PCs or anything liek that
plus used parts market in hong kong is like barely existent
Really?
I see tons of parts from China on ebay
idk if they are only selling out of country
finally reached 10M
grats
I was actually going to suggest you buy like a 4 year old gaming rig and put a mining GPU in the second slot
a mining P106-100 and a GTX 1060 6GB should net you nearly 1 Mil PPD
for probably $500
@hushed bobcat my 1060 6GB limited to 60W does around 350 to 500k
(actual points per day, not estimates
yea I think they should average 400-450K PPD
P106 should be about the same
not 100% sure on that though
but imo easiest solution is to get some older prebuilt which has a 6-pin power; or just a random sandy/ivy bridge system, they go for cheap
so both together should be near 1 mil
i mean an i5-3470/8GB RAM systems with storage usually go around $200-$250 ?
and sometimes even cheaper
and those are ebay prices, local prices might be even better
this would be good
has 2 slots
CPU isnt even that old
needs RAM, but that is a $35 item for an 8GB stick
and fans, to actually keep it cool, that is another $15-$40 depending on fan quality ๐
i don't rly trust parts from China coz lot of them misrepresented
and in Hong Kong itself barely anyone acc tried to resell used parts
most ppl just throw stuff out
ppl do yes
but most laptops arent designed for working 24/7 at 100%
I have seen a pic on here of someone folding on an ASUS laptop and it expired
expired?
we dont know for sure
I am trying to keep my temps down
but it was probably temp related
but dont know if it would die if my temps are ok
you usually cant see all your temps
true
I'd be more worried about the power delivery overheating
yes
you might be able to see VRM temps with HWinfo64
but they are almost always unlabeled
so your going to have to let the CPU idle then hit it with an all core load and see what temps go up
besides the obvious core temp
on my Mobo the VRM temp is actually TMPIN5
dont see unlabeled stuff
what category is it in?
i have no idea
motherboard?
mainboard?
like i said you're going to have to dig
there are so many numbers it is it possible to filter all the other numbers liek %
they dont make it easy for some reason
like see only temps
maybe but not that I know of
I see
I guess I will finish this one off and be done with it. I kinda need my computer for other work related stuff
@hushed bobcat used p106-100 are way cheaper than that
did you see i just said a bit ago i have over 10 available?
im expecting them to be available for $80-100 lol
i thought you had 2?
depending on condition
no
im loaned 2
the guy said he has at LEAST 10 and he had to confirm more
besides the 2 he loaned me
i may pick up more for myself idk, but yea
more like 5 for 500 if someone wanted a deal, assuming their fans work
if not $80 cause new fans are $20 each on amazon
each set of 2
dude is willing to do trade on the 2 i have as well as any more i want so i could potentially just owe him $1000 in pizza if he'll take a bill that large
but yea, expecting 4-6mppd of available processing power for anyone who wants to pick it up individually or in chunks. i need to see what kind of stash of static bags and other things he has as well for shipping them, since they'd most likely end up in whatever boxes I have available with spare packing material around them as i bet he does not have a stack of over a dozen 1060 sized boxes
but yea avg 350-500kppd
rare 500k more like 460k
I might be willing to buy a few
i never pulled the trigger on the $70 ones on eBay
glad I didnt
yea dude i'll text him and let him know i already have interested buyers if you want a few. i need to see condition before guaranteeing prices first though
and test all of them
they will come with at least tested fans and brand new TIM
i just got a 2g tube of arctic MX4 ordered after i lost the last one i just got this year
I would vastly prefer a known name brand over some chinese brand
ohhh
hence why its easy af to find the fans
i like Gigabyte
windforce design
yea my 2060 is from them
i cheaped out and got it for less than the EVGA cause it was a fair bit less at the time
i trust them lol
2080ti thats coming today is EVGA tho
yes, i saw the 3080 specs, no i dont feel like waiting, especially if lockdown keeps dragging on
and BET that it will again later this year
when we get covid 2 electric boogaloo
if you want to give him a number I think i can afford 3 for $300
with the systems i have available i could probably put 5 to work
but i just dont have the $$
ohh and that price is shipped
now if you could get him to sell me 5 for $300 i would gladly take them ๐
also P106-100 6GB only please
dont want the P106-90
sorry being kinda picky here
thats fine
im pretty sure they're all 100
wanna DM me where you're located?
so i can figure out shipping
done
dank i'll get back to you after i sleep unless he wakes up early here
@here a word of warning. I installed F@H yesterday and the CPU load is rather extreme, when set to full. The tasks are so demanding that my CPU would have run at 93C if I let it run. However when I CPU stress test all cores on CPUZ my system barely even scratches the 75C mark, even after half an hour of stressing.
The GPU however worked through the night and is still at a chill 65C and never higher. It accrues about 40x the credit of a CPU of the same price. So either carefully thermal manage your CPU so it won't be over 90C 24/7 or don't use it at all, since it will most likely only ever be 4% or less of your contribution.
So I decided to mail AMD Tech support. Here is their answer:
Dear [Mithrandir],
[...]
You can use the CPU at 85C-90C for 24/7 operation without any worry about CPU lifespan.
Thank you for contacting AMD.
[...]
I asked for the Ryzen 9 3900x specifically, so take this with a grain of salt if you have a different chip.
@lusty cypress Ryzen 3000 series actually have thermally dependant boost, so they will lower clock if cooling is inadequate
Is that on the chip itself, independent of OS? Cause when I fold on linux it stayed at 93C
it is the chip
that is why people were reaching so different clocks on 3900x when the CPU came out
More like its built into the BIOS
some were reaching at specified single core turbo clocks, others were sometimes few hundred MHz lower
https://youtu.be/g94rNe4XSGU?t=424 see here
This video looks at AMD frequency and cold scale with full stock settings, using only Precision Boost 2 (NOT the same as PBO) and controlled temperatures.
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as you can see, all-core clock scales with temperature, lower temperature = higher clocks
so if you go too high with temps, CPU will simply start scaling back the clock. i think der8auer even shown the CPU dropping to 800MHz or so if there is no cooling
@lusty cypress https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU9yjwMlbRI there you go ๐
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9:33 is where the fun starts ๐
graph here shows difference between a laptop and a PC (both got high-end CPUs for their form factor) for folding https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=999199
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yup thats all by design
its even more intense on the rx5700xt
you can hit 110c T-junction before it will throttle
and the core will still be sitting around 75-78c due to hot spot
and it runs like that voluntarily all day
it could downclock but the chip thinks it's fine
when you run a temp logger on it to record the peaks it'll have peaks of 1 15c
i set a fairly aggressive fan profile to help it along
depending on the WU it sits between 1880-2000mhz (1905 is default boost but i have it set to 2039)
this is on a highly performing WU getting nearly 1mppd and fully utilizing my 5700xt
my 3800x was sitting at 88-93c before i put it on water
at 4.05ghz
now its at 4.2ish on water with temps in the 65-80c range (ambient dependent) and its pulling 30 more watts
thinking of doing some VDDC tweak for more stable load line and opening it up a bit to try for a stable 4.5
don't think my 1050ti is worth it utilizing, beside I've got a 3950X water cooled and sitting at comfy 60C with 2 F@H processes (each using 16 threads). Not sure I wanna mess with cuda again in Linux to try to utilize the GPU
also got a GTX 980 Ti idling which probably would be worth using but I've got it reserved for my gaming VM and I can't hot-swap the drivers to use it in Linux
is there a reason you don't use the full 32t limit in windows for one big old slot?
also what kind of PPD do you get out of it set that way @jade flicker
im considering buying a 4950x when they launch, or 4900x depending if they drop 16 cores to that price point
word thats still more than twice almost 3x as much as a 3800x
for basically the same power used right
is there a reason you don't use the full 32t limit in windows for one big old slot?
@brittle coral thought it doesn't make much of a difference if I use 2 slots with each 16T vs. 1 slots with 32t
you will get more QRB
using just one
i've read word that a 3950x is supposed to be about half as fast as a gtx1080
which would be about as fast as a 1060 for F@H
and it uses about the same power
and it's a cpu.......
๐
soooooon.
gtx1080 is half as fast as a 1060? something doesn't seem right
in PPD
for F@H
not the TI obviously
based on what I see a 1070 doing these numbers hold up as a decent average for the 1080, it may be a bit higher but either way
also
1280 is half of 2560
a 3950X at 4 GHz can do 2 fp32 teraflops on paper, so there's quite a bit of number crunching power there
it has exactly half the cores
yup lol its a lot ๐
but yea on paper, the 1080 has twice the cores at 100mhz faster
its a bit more than twice realistically
is that because of the quick return bonus, or is it actually completing the same WUs in half the time?
its because of QRB and it completes them much faster
thats what QRB is
idk if its half the time
i dont have a 1080 to compare
jsut the 2080ti thats on the truck
sometime today, idk if im even gonna sleep
been up all night
I have a 1080, but eh, there seem to be no GPU WUs out at the moment
we will see when my pain meds for my shoulder kick in (its bad today)
yea
im having trouble
my 2060, 1070, and a p106-100 are all idle
but then my 5700xt gets work instantly
which is okay, but it also got a WU thats not well optimized for AMD
xD
I have a couple of GPUs not idle, but only because they're slow and still crunching units from a day ago
not terrible either, 600kppd for about 73k
btw clam
im about to have a sale on p106-100s
guy who loaned me 2 is giving them to me for tradeback (food, pizza runs, whatever) and letting me sell the others for a commission once i test and refurb them
at the v least theyre all getting fresh TIM, arctic MX-4
nice, just gonna fold with them?