Yeah
#folding-and-boinc
rich depot
smoky rose
@hushed bobcat 20 / 5 fucks things up.
You can enter any number from 1 to the number of threads your CPU supports.
If you have GPUs, F@H reserves one CPU per GPU to feed it data across the PCIE bus.
F@H has difficulty with large primes and their multiples number of CPUs.
7 is always large, 5 is sometimes large, and 3 is never large. Try to choose a number that is a multiple of 2 and/or 3.
2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 12, 16, 18, 24, 27, etc. are good numbers of CPUs to choose.
5. 10. 15, 20 etc may work most of the time. Other numbers will bite you.```I can't wait to see how turing cards do...
silver wing
just ordered 2nd CPU heatsink I forgot to get, eta is end of month
hope it gets here before start
golden fulcrum
Titanium PSU seems to be holding up (so far) at 12h use.
onyx canopy
are you guys getting wus for your gpus ?
today is such an unlucky day :(
oh nvm finally gettings one
feelsgoodman
golden fulcrum
I've got 3/4 running so far this morning.
still 1 GPU idle.
oh, and apologies again if anyone was offended by my rant out large corporations (ie. airlines etc).
Just annoyed me seeing a "commercial pilot" of all things, commenting on the daily upkeep required for airliners, when from the maintenance side, what he was saying was totally wrong.
Having worked with a 737 platform (maintenance wise), I knew for a fact what was being read off the page was totally wrong (GE have 30 and 90 day jet engine preservation periods on their own youtube channel themselves - hence my frustration).
Guessing the comment was quite off topic (as a few of my responses were deleted).
So in future I'll keep my experiences to myself and concentrate on WUs, Folding and keeping PSUs alive.
4/4 GPUs running... and CPU seems to have a 3hr WU... twice as long as the previous CPU WUs
golden fulcrum
strange that on the server status page there's so many servers out there with WUs, but no way to "hook in" to a specific (and specify a backup).
rich depot
The problem isn't what you think...
They are serving near 130k WUs per hour. I've never seen them manage 140k or more, so there is a bigger issues I believe than simply a server being down
In fact right now is the best assignment rate for the past week or so
golden fulcrum
What are you getting that readout from? UPS? I'm thinking I need to invest in one (or a PDU) myself to monitor power draw (without using the smart plug which may have contributed to my other PSU dying)
anyone here have experience with 4U Supermicro GPU servers (SYS-4028 series or something similar)? just trying to get an idea of real-world power usage and maintenance (ie, what OS etc.)
hushed bobcat
@golden fulcrum you should be able to load any OS capable of supporting 2 CPU sockets on a SYS-4028 right?
from what i saw its just a server with several levels of PLX chips
I seriously looked into getting an SYS-2027GR-TRF and dedicating it to folding with either mining cards or teslas
golden fulcrum
shame the online IT auctions here have slowed, I was after a 4U UPS and missed a few that would have worked nicely.
@hushed bobcat that's what I was thinking, but more specifically, how server administrators running Win10 deal with the update push intrusion (or can they disable / defer updates for longer?)
hushed bobcat
they would most likely run windows server right? updates for that should be much less intrusive
golden fulcrum
I was contemplating running Windows 10 for Workstations (haven't played in the server space before - running a headless workstation has been the extent of my experiences and is what I'm doing right now for Folding).
hushed bobcat
if i actually bought one i would just use a Linux distro
maybe even a server version with no UI at all
i manage all my F@H clients from my main gaming computer after all
golden fulcrum
problem is one of the other use-cases I'm investigating relies on CUDA GPUs over Win10.
uses massive PCIe bandwidth and potentially RAM (depending on scenario), so VMs would have to be tailored to use 128GB RAM + 4-5 GPUs each I guess)
quaint nacelle
i just started folding@home yay
hushed bobcat
welcome
quaint nacelle
should i leave it working overnight?
golden fulcrum
welcome.
hushed bobcat
thats up to you
quaint nacelle
do the thermals get bad after a while ?
hushed bobcat
it depends on your cooling setup
air will usually 20-30 seconds to stabilize in temp
water will depend on your loop size
could be 1 min to 10 min
quaint nacelle
well my pc never got over 70oC even after literally 24h of playing games that go hard on cpu's and gpu's
so i might be ok
hushed bobcat
though if its air and your case can't circulate air you could see a gradual rise in temp
F@H is WAY harder than any game
quaint nacelle
yeah
its been going for a while like an hour now and my cpu temp didnt rise more than 10oC
hushed bobcat
thats a pretty low delta between idle and folding
you running a full custom water loop?
quaint nacelle
nope
quaint nacelle
its cpu rn
hushed bobcat
whats your CPU package temp?
quaint nacelle
only if i remembered lol
hmm its on full power and my cpu util is like 70%
nice
hushed bobcat
unless you have multiple GPU's it should be close to 100% on full power
I suppose none of that matters to the question you asked earlier
basically wait until you have WU's running on every slot
then check your temps
if they're fine leave it running
if they aren't, don't
quaint nacelle
yeah good idea
hushed bobcat
I will leave 1 small word of warning
it seems SOME EVGA GPU's dont like running 100% 24/7
apparently EVGA did a poor job cooling the VRM's on some models, and running them at full power causes them to overheat and fail
hushed bobcat
should see your CPU usage go up a bit too
for Folding the CPU needs to send data to the GPU constantly
rule of thumb is 1 thread per GPU
quaint nacelle
now both my gpu and cpu went up to 80% each
hushed bobcat
but i've found on older CPU's you may need more than 1 thread to feed the GPU properly
btw if you're looking in Windows Task manager it wont show proper GPU utilization
stoic hazel
i cant seem to get any folding done on my computer
stark bough
Is there a prize page for last events folding competition?
Just want to see if I won something
quaint nacelle
hah gpu temp is 69 nice
hushed bobcat
@stark bough https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1N5TCg5s5Kkgerrt6Dn29r2YSRU9U5bttNcUdFvBX30c/edit#gid=1505263088
goto bottom and hit "Final Summary"
gotta say im getting pretty upset at F@H, my PC just BSOD's twice in 10 min, most likely from a bad GPU WU
i wouldn't mind so much if it just detected the bad WU and threw out the points
but hard locking my main PC is unacceptable
im locking up more than when i was mining on this rig....
quaint nacelle
rip
golden fulcrum
@hushed bobcat what setup was it on, and did you record the message it displayed on BSOD?
hushed bobcat
im at the point where as soon as it hard locks i hit the reset button
i had one lock where it never went to the BSOD
lets see
here is some of my crash dumps @golden fulcrum
hushed bobcat
3600 is max supported right? before you have to do the infinity fabric split
odd barn
I’m not sure that’s what I’ve been seeing. I might have to buy new ram since the windows memory tester found hardware problems
I’m wondering if it’s directly related to the ram or if it’s something else
golden fulcrum
@hushed bobcat this link might help, guy self diagnosed at the end. Most likely driver issue in his case, possibly same for yours?
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/bsod-on-windows-10-after-1909-update-kmode/d8f5bec0-3bb9-42f5-a16a-c18ef91956b2
brittle coral
hey does nayone in here haev a gtx2060 KO?
er rtx
i ordered the non-KO version but now im wondering if i should return it and order the KO
theres a 26% performance improvement in blender which is a pure CUDA program
golden fulcrum
BSOD diagnosis link lead here.
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/5558-windbg-basics-debugging-crash-dumps-windows-10-a.html
brittle coral
nvm it looks like its the same in foldingi fn ot worse
because of thermals XD
ughhhhhhhhh
that server thats not taking work is STILL NOT
10 hours later =/
i have a bunch of WUs that have deteriorated a ton in value now lol
and all 5 of my cards are idle
lol despite the delay on uploads it looks like i broke 20m
i'd have broken 7m for linus if not for the delay while asleep
xD
storm talon
anyone else notice the number of spam emails / login requests to sites from foreign ip's has gone up drastically this week?
my 2fa emails are insane, 10 so far today
brittle coral
nope
storm talon
Well, be extra vigilant then.
brittle coral
in fact the one unusual thing i had, an alarm every day at 12am in russian because of some email i got in the past, i finally discovered i could delete that myself xD
storm talon
brittle coral
i had a friend read it to me who reads russian and it was something stupid to boot lol
storm talon
that was the most recent one lol
one of my clients sent me it freaking out about his btc
i'm like bruh, you best not have clicked that
brittle coral
yea lol right
stark bough
lol
plain geyser
been 18 hours, since than multiple WU have been completed and sent
butit's still stuck on sending
restrating dont help
golden fulcrum
wow... I just got a CPU WU that has an ETA of 1.5 days updated, now 4.5hrs
Apparently it's a CoVid-19 WU
storm talon
looks like ur CS shat the bed @plain geyser
might have to delete the slot and add it back to start a new one
brittle coral
thats not the issue larry
its affecting everyone
its a google server thats not taking uploads
i had 2 WUs get stalled on upload last night and i have 2 more that are stalled now
was a different IP last night but both starting with 13.
the other was like 13.7.something idk you could scroll through the last 24hrs and find it if you REALLY care xD
stark bough
google is accepting completed WU's now?
brittle coral
maybe its another server then, either way its the same issue but different IP this time
plain geyser
Yeah i just finished another WU and it seems to be stuck as well
so 2/6 WU in 24 hour period are stuck
it's now spitting out errors every 15 seconds
storm talon
have you mtr'd the connection to that server on your end?
it might be them
run a winmtr for 500 returns
golden fulcrum
Classic, I've gotten around 1/3 of the points running barely a day of WUs now (around 20 WUs for LTT) compared to my previous total points allocated for the whole 152 WU prior (from a few years ago).
storm talon
google winmtr
it's like traceroute+ping
it'll tell you where the connection is dying if it's on the network end
plain geyser
oh yeah nextworks is fine
network*
all my system are fine
just this one
the other stuck one unstuck it self aftre a while
it's just this one from last night that wont send.
it finish around 10PM last night
and it's been stuck since
sand shows the collection server as 0.0.0.0
no errors from it until the 1080ti finish it's current WU, once it's done it start spitting out errors until it find a new WU and it just ignore the broken one and gets back to work
storm talon
yea in my experience if the cs is 0.0.0.0 that means the as doesn't have connection
brittle coral
i just want my parts to get here so i can get the second p106 and the 2060 going xD
less worried about the 290x cause idk what its gonna be able to put out really and it uses a lot of power haha
marble quartz
huh 14638 won't upload either
golden fulcrum
Titanium PSU holding out well.. pulling rig offline to try Linux now (had issues getting WUs to download on Linux at all before though).
modifying old mining rig frame tonight to run 6x 1080Ti's on the same rig (with better airflow). Fingers crossed I don't blow the Titanium PSU or that'll be 6 idle GPUs unable to contribute to the team.
stark bough
was thinking a titanium corsair for an always on SFF
marble quartz
PCMR is holding a giveaway for folders 🤔
plain geyser
O.o Precision X OC is prob the worst software i ever used...
it rrandomly decided auto fan control on one of my rigs was not needed
and turn of auto fan control....
thank fudge i decided to check temps before heading to bed.. the 2080 was trying to cook it self
marble quartz
you should config your own fan curve
brittle coral
jogerj what kind of give away lol
rich depot
Zero out of five slots active...
brittle coral
ugh yea i woke up to that today spectrum
rich depot
@marble quartz They just copying us trying to best us
brittle coral
i got 4/5 within 30 minutes of poking them to get the servers to give me love
rich depot
I'm playing the poking game game right now
Btw we have the highest number of active folders we've had in the past two-three weeks today
rich depot
assign rate is back up to 130k though, thats neat
brittle coral
and g@y why is that blocked 😦
it is actually, that was the point xD
its a g@y marriage
i guess im okay with it being blocked if it prevents people from using it as a slur
rich depot
Yeah, I wanna see it top 140k they seem to have a bottleneck limiting them to 130-135k
you can get banned for trying to circumvent the block though @brittle coral
yeah thats weird @rich depot
I'm guessing assignment server limitation, only so many connections per hour you can manage
brittle coral
for sure, i just figured as someone who is not of the cis or het variety that using it to accurately describe something would not upset anyone. i will keep it in mind though thank you
rich depot
in that last videocall thats on youtube they say its not the assignment servers though @rich depot
brittle coral
yea didnt they say its some issue on their end taking all the data in?>
they're getting like 6tb an hour
rich depot
But the thing is, as they have expended server count they would have increased their ability to ingest data
So it won't be that limiting assignment rate to this hard barrier of 140k or less
My degree is in networking, I don't care what they say, data ingest won't be the major limiting factor here. I havent watched it yet, only read bits and pieces, but my guess is they were referring to the downtime. Also likely to the fact they they often are down to 60-90k per hour assignment rate
Either that or the topology of the network means that multiple connections are needed for each assignment. But with that said, if that was the case the chances are we wouldn't get assigned servers that are down as often as we do... Hmm.... I think I gotta go watch that vid
yeah, you gotta watch that vid
xD
brittle coral
yea do so
what they said all made perfect sense
there is a human bottleneck as well
they have some things they haven't figured out the best way to optimize yet or automate
rich depot
Hit me with the linky, to lazy to go finding it
brittle coral
but suffice to say it's on their end at the root of the network as much as it is on the assignment servers. its why we keep seeing full assign servers when we want to send them data
rich depot
I know how the network operates with some decent degree of detail already, but I'm always happy to learn more
brittle coral
blue you got it? i can look but im also drinking tonight xD
rich depot
brittle coral
^
rich depot
I've only been up an hour, luckily, no drinking on my part yet
brittle coral
firefox is smarter than i am, i only had to type in folding@home fireside and it came up for me too
yea i decided when i saw hammerlock and jacobs both getting married i was going to make a drink in their honor and be merry with the whiskey and the non straight thing
gotta respect my boys and party
i got some parts here today as well, gonna put them in the case in a few hours
so when the CPU and the 2060 show up they can all go in and launch right away
i have some spare silverstone focus modular cables i can set up from the 1200w to prep for the 850w as well xD
rich depot
I need to get my tax rebate already to get the next 2060/2070...
brittle coral
get some
rich depot
Replacing the 980 this time around
brittle coral
if i was paying for power id replace it
but its my highest outputting card right now because the 5700xt keeps getting crap WUs for AMD xD
its been better the last 2 days tho
rich depot
Replace what?
About time!
I have all my slots running (1 gpu, 1cpu) and 1 thing is still on send
brittle coral
oh i have a 980ti as well running
rich depot
for like 5 hours it has been on send
brittle coral
but no the new rig im building has exactly room for the 3 cards i have lol
2 here + 1 coming
rich depot
how many rigs have you working at the moment @brittle coral?
brittle coral
2
if i didnt buy a dual M2 rig instead of a 3 PCIE board the first time around on my x570 i would have the second p106 running as well lol
rich depot
ah okay
dusky seal
is there like diddly for WU today?
fierce steppe
Looks like people just got credited for a bunch of missed WUs.
(I haven't folded today but got 1M points)
brittle coral
ugh
i still have 2 unsent WUs
server has been unresponsive all day and into the night now
silver wing
@fierce steppe
Wooooooo
CPU folding proving once again the best for random points spikes 🙂
fierce steppe
Well, you only got 8.25x the points from 65x more WUs...
silver wing
not by biggest point spike though
forest sapphire
why am I seeing this on my GPU:
It's like it isn't even trying
if someone does know, if they could @ me that woudl be great. Heading to bed now lol
rich depot
@forest sapphire gotta post the log before people can help
forest sapphire
Lol. I just wasn’t sure if anybody has come across it.
I will post in the morning.
golden fulcrum
@silver wing how do you get that stat breakdown? is it a weblink based on your ID?
smoky rose
@forest sapphire If it is from a system that has worked before I think you are going to see a whole lot of "No WUs available for this configuration" in the log.
It's just that, no work units available.
brittle coral
someone send me a pack of these for cooling
its the 38mm x120mm fan i have a pair of, i need more cooling xD
golden fulcrum
@rich depot thanks, gives me a better idea of things now.
rich depot
🙂
brittle coral
24 hours
thats how long it took for the units that got delayed to send
F
at least they sent 🙂
slate lake
;c
golden fulcrum
finished toying around with my rig (haven't set up for Linux yet, but it's started using Win10 again)
Not ideal, still needs fine tuning, but it's just making sure it all works with the Titanium PSU
rich depot
looks nice
golden fulcrum
turbulent airflow coming out the exhaust due to lip on frame, but just trying to get Win10 to play the game so I can start benchmarking / stress testing it.
smoky rose
What model cards is that?
golden fulcrum
1080Ti FE's
smoky rose
nice
golden fulcrum
what's left of my original mining rig from a few years ago (was only a small 10x GPU setup, but the amount of issues PSUs caused. lol. and of course the server PSUs from reputable suppliers were always out of stock)
smoky rose
What kind of ports are there on the mobo?
golden fulcrum
Got no idea what else is on the same circuit, but as long as I don't run more than 1500w on the PSU I should be fine.... I think.
7 full length PCIe slots, in the current config they're 16x/8x/8x/8x/8x/8x thanks to the PCIe switch
smoky rose
And full length risers?
slate lake
@golden fulcrum crypto mining?
golden fulcrum
yeah, all running Thermaltake 200mm PCIe 3.0 risers
yeah, the GPUs were all from a little dabble in crypto, caught the wave too late though.
smoky rose
So how is it working for folding? Any bottlenecks?
golden fulcrum
don't know yet, just finishing driver install, and about to adjust the MSI timings and power limits.
need to drop them to 225w
that's where I wish I had a 2000w PSU. lol
slate lake
;d
solid anchor
There should be very little data moved back and forth from the gpus
My understanding is the data sets are not that big in an absolute sense, but the computation can be memory intensive
golden fulcrum
setup will also be tested on 3D rendering and AI/ML, so it's handy to have the bandwidth
slate lake
ah yeah that would be good
you may be able to sell the rendering time
AWS be damned
golden fulcrum
Idea was to transfer the GPUs over to my X299 SAGE and use on Vast.ai, but figured I'd test Folding first
slate lake
ah yes
golden fulcrum
Just running up Octanebench 4.0 now
4x GPUs gave me 820 OB, so I'm guessing 6 will give approx 1230 OB ish gave 1276 Octanebench
I don't understand Win10 task manager for GPUs, they're running 100% CUDA atm, and the task manager is showing 0% on the side graph. haha
And most importantly... No BSOD! lol. (hazard with PLX switches, Win10 and multiple GPUs I've seen)
brittle coral
oooooof, the 290x is to long to go in the slot i wanted to put it in in this case Y_Y. idk what im gonna do about it yet lmao, the one thing thats not happening is moving it to the top slot and choking the 2060 xD
golden fulcrum
how old is the 290X?
brittle coral
uh
few months after launch xD
idk i got it after the first 2
as a mining card
it ended up being like 40% faster than the other 2 cause i got them with gaming in mind before mining went wild
golden fulcrum
you might even be able to put it to pasture (flog it off) and perhaps reinvest? not sure what they're worth nowadays though
stark bough
Hmmm. What would be the most power efficient 200W Folding setup?
brittle coral
200w for just the card?
stark bough
Say 240w total
brittle coral
hrm
golden fulcrum
2070 Super?
brittle coral
get a low power AMD CPU with vega graphics and a 2060
golden fulcrum
^ or that
brittle coral
2070 is out of hte power budget
2060 is 150w max if it's a 6 pin and slot
the rest of the system can run on 90w np
you could fold on the CPU and maybe the IGP would be halfway okay since it is vega based at least
who knows
xD
you could even consider using a higher power CPU but no more than 65w tdp, you need a bit for the ram and other stuff lol
golden fulcrum
yeah, the 2070 Super would take 215w just on it's own thereabouts
2070 Super w/ low wattage Ryzen? lol.
stark bough
been needing to scale back my 3700x/1070 due to lack of production from solar.
Been running 340W while I’m using, including monitor, so probably really 299W
brittle coral
stark bough
Been wondering how I could drive it lower, or possibly commit a full tile box to folding.
brittle coral
This is what I'm working with
the case is one of the first 8 slot back panels from lancool (cheap steel and plastic lian li brand)
idk what happened to my HAF 932 i think i gave it to someone for like $80 cause it was a gen1 before they powder coated them and all the rivets were rusting
wishing i had one of the classic coolermaster cases spare
i had a bunch once upon a time
golden fulcrum
weird, just had Folding@Home go yellow with Updating Inactive
stark bough
Heck I could probably stick it in an eGPU and use it on my Nuc part time
Too bad enclosures still cost quite a bit still
I’ve also been wondering if titanium’s are worth it for full time folding
brittle coral
Hah I wish enclosures were less than $400
Last I looked anyway
Its cheaper to buy a card already in one and chuck the card when its time
stark bough
Was thinking that higher tier cards would also be more power efficient generally if their power target and voltage was optimized
golden fulcrum
rig just restarted... wonder if it's a power issue.
golden fulcrum
yep. must have drawn too much juice folding.
85% Power Limit with no CPU folding is best my rig can handle
brittle coral
fuck it, i may pull out one of my 4x risers and figure a way to raise the card out haha
the slot is only 4x electrically anyway i looked
idle harness
was hoping to get my system going full steam ahead while I'm out but it doesn't seem like there's any WUs 😕
golden fulcrum
yeah, I'm sitting at 5/6 running (there's a 200k WU in there though which surprised me)
Hopefully I don't get any more unexplained resets though
golden fulcrum
Finally, got another GPU WU. Hopefully you guys got some more too
forest sapphire
@smoky rose So looking at it, I don't even see it attempting to reach out.
smoky rose
Post log
smoky rose
Pastebin
smoky rose
Give us a screens hot of the default tab of advanced control too
forest sapphire
smoky rose
Pause and start the gpu slot.
smoky rose
What's next attempt showing?
forest sapphire
now it works
smoky rose
Ok.
forest sapphire
I have done that so many times in the past
solid anchor
Ol' turn it off and on again always works 😉
forest sapphire
I have been completely restarting the app to fix it
I'd like to know what is causing it
rich depot
Log?
forest sapphire
scroll up
golden fulcrum
rig holding steady at 7.6mil PPD
brittle coral
shit mang
theres a 1060 on craigslist for $60
and the 290x doesnt fit the case so i emailed him xD
posted 19 hours ago
wish me luck guys
i told him i was willing to pay more if needed and that i was donating the processing time to covid research, hopefully he goes for it even if someone else messaged him xD
smoky rose
Break a leg
brittle coral
right thats a score if it comes through
and then my rigs are full and set
no more XD
I gotta stop somewhere
or i'll get my electricity rationed lmao
whole fog
Hi guys can I get an honest opinion on whether an i7 3820 is a bottle neck for current games at 1080p - Have a rtx 2070
Clocked 4ghz
smoky rose
Games?
smoky rose
There are no gamers here. Only crypto miners and folders.
brittle coral
i just upgraded from an 8350k which is faster
whole fog
league, destiny, modern warfare
brittle coral
hop up a channel cyprella i'll answer for you there
it's off topic for this channel
brittle coral
its np lol
brittle coral
lets put it on folding topic
the 2070 is def bottlenecking in folding
nvidia GPUs use a whole core to themselves pretty much
so you want a good fast CPU to hel pfeed them
and also a good wide bus
whole fog
yeah
whole fog
i find that using just 2 gpu to fold will use around 10-15 cpu
brittle coral
yea you def wanna upgrade for folding and games regardless
if you can wait, get ryzen 4th gen when it comes later this year, otherwise buy a 3800x now and never regret it
thats what i did and it was an across the board improvement, and it folds real fast for a CPU 🙂
whole fog
Hard to justify when everything works just fine. I see no performance increase when using other more modern cpus and gpus
brittle coral
but now im looking at doubling over on that and getting a 4000 series
whole fog
yep
brittle coral
at 1080p maybe, at 2k definitely
i get about 120k ppd out of my 3800x when i let it use as much cpu as it wants
the biggest improvement you'll see with Zen2 (Ryzen 3rd gen) is that it has a 15% instructions per clock improvement
and that's universal, you'll benefit in games and folding and computing and transcoding across the board
even on single core applications
whole fog
right
brittle coral
especially on old poorly optimized software that doesnt use as many cores
15% is big lol
and im going to 32gb of ram
i realized that if i want to leave my folding clients going while i game at the same time cause i can, it uses all 16gb of my ram
so i have another 16 coming
forest sapphire
This shoudl fold like a CHAMP... https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/sop/d/cornelius-pentium-ii-slot1-processor/7108251272.html
brittle coral
theres multiple GPUs in my main rig so i can leave one going to fold while the other games (rx5700xt and rx580, 580 folds)
dang
i havent seen a pentium 2 in ages
forest sapphire
I know!
forest sapphire
I built my first computer with a Pentium 2
brittle coral
ayyyyyyy twinsies
xD
wasnt mine but the first rig he let me help him build was a pentium 2
2 and pro were both slot loaded im p sure tho
brittle coral
it was but it also had socketed ones
the one in the Xbox was socketed
it was the 1ghz p3 part
that never really shipped
cause the p4 superceded it
my personal first PC was a 478 northwood pentium 4 lol
real heater hours
Riva TNT2
the card that put nvidia on the map lol, 3D glasses guys
folding@home was just getting started on gear like that lol
they got their start on pentium 4s and celeron 4s, AMD Athlon XP and Duron xD
the first true 3D graphics engine had just been developed 2 years earlier, one that required a mandatory graphics accelerator vs pure software rendering
forest sapphire
damn
golden fulcrum
my first was a 8086 w/ CGA screen... then when I got a job, a Willamette 1.4Ghz P4 w/ GeForce 2 Ultra
forest sapphire
That one is named after a river in my hometown
golden fulcrum
loved those old naming conventions, I got the Northwood after I paid off the Willamette, and moved from RDRAM to DDR. Before the Coppermine which I used to fold on (free electricity at the time. lol)
onyx canopy
still waiting for assignments :(
golden fulcrum
finished the first 3 of my 6, still got a GPU WU that's 33% in with 3hrs remaining
golden fulcrum
240,000 pts
onyx canopy
seems legit actually
I wish we could have a way to see a project completion
like % of total wus
completed / remaining
golden fulcrum
myosins... that's the project for that big one
onyx canopy
yeah
my biggest one from yesterday was also for myosins
the server was down so couldn't upload unfortunately
lost 2/3 of the credits lol
golden fulcrum
oh well. lol. hopefully the rig doesn't shit itself overnight and it actually finishes.
trying to restrict my folding to night time so I can heat the loungeroom.
forest sapphire
Man my GPU did it again
jade slate
?
golden fulcrum
shame the credits don't go down in the hours prior to the WU expiry, that'd be a lot handier.
ie. 6hrs out, credits halve, 3hrs out, halve again, etc. etc.
onyx canopy
yh
forest sapphire
@jade slate
It won't attempt to reach out to find a WU
It gets stuck in this Unknown state
jade slate
try pausing and unpausing?
forest sapphire
yep
onyx canopy
same as me
golden fulcrum
wow, I'm 17,724th in the LTT Folding Team. lol.
golden fulcrum
apparently I jumped nearly 17,000 places.
didn't realise there were so many people folding for LTT though, it's awesome the support the guys have (both LTT and Folding)
onyx canopy
22654th exactly
forest sapphire
@onyx canopy I had to restart the app to get it to un-F itself
onyx canopy
I restarted my computer
forest sapphire
I've done that in the past as well
onyx canopy
the app first, nothing changed
then the whole computer
still at the F state
might work this time
onyx canopy
FINALLY
bruh I always need to restart the app or the computer
it's not working properly I guess
golden fulcrum
I heard on the news here in Australia that we're going to be trialling a CoVid-19 vaccination from the USA, wonder if any of our folding has gone in to help with that
idle harness
looks like I can't run my CPU and GPUs at the same time, runs for a bit then crashes
onyx canopy
thats why FAH is going to evolve, to match was scientist really need, to make it more appealing for newcomers, to fix the issues clients are meeting
idle harness
seems to be a power issue
brittle coral
what PSU for what parts RPG?
golden fulcrum
@idle harness I'm thinking that's what happened with mine earlier, it ran for a bit, locked up, BSOD and then reset.
idle harness
Its got an old Corsair CX750, on an Overclocked R51600 and 2 RX480 8Gb
golden fulcrum
still not sure if it was a power issue at my end though. rig seems to have run fine with 85% power across 6x working 1080Ti's (removed CPU folding as it was 50% CPU usage just doing GPUs)
idle harness
I actually think it may be the motherboard
This PC was built on a very low budget and I tried to squeeze as much power as I could out of it at the time
onyx canopy
RPG, check your GPU-Z, see if you have correct PCIE speeds
psu could be faulty too
socket pins could be bended
idle harness
it wouldn't surprise me if the PSU was failing, these things were notorious for failing
golden fulcrum
ok, time to call it. goodnight all and happy folding.
idle harness
PCIE speeds are all fine, both GPUs are working fine, looks like I just have to choose between GPUs or CPU
onyx canopy
its fuckin 5pm for me
golden fulcrum
1am here
onyx canopy
I see we have an uk resident here
forest sapphire
8am here
idle harness
as soon as I enable the CPU the voltage being supplied to it drops through the floor
solid anchor
@forest sapphire west coaster 😉
forest sapphire
@solid anchor Left coast is the best coast lol
solid anchor
East coast is my coast 😛
solid anchor
It is beautiful on that side though
(only been to the Canadian part of the west coast though)
solid anchor
Mmhm
idle harness
yeah so it seems my CPU issue is caused when I have at least 1 GPU and the CPU running together. My chips voltage is 1.385 but its seems to only be able to supply 1.36 which isn't stable
not a problem when the CPU is going on its own
brittle coral
yea
sounds about right lol
if you wanted to buy something used and you're in the US i have an 8350k, board, and ram I'd be willing to part with if I can find parts to replace them for the right price xD
other ppl around with lots of cheap used parts that would upgrade that nicely, but you'd also really want some money left for a new GPU. or you can just replace the PSU and try to see what you get out of it. what kind of PPD are you getting out of a 480 now anyway?
idle harness
I do not live in the US :D
brittle coral
rip xD
not trying to deal with international anything right now lol
other than research, of course
🙂
and tech support here
but yea, those PSUs were garbage for how "good" they were supposed to be
enermax and seasonic consistently outlived them at the time, even coolermaster was doing better
thermaltake was hit or miss but i've had a toughpower gold 750w in my main rig for a few years and it's holding on strong as hell
THAT is a good 750w PSU, i got 3 for mining on back in 2014
idle harness
I don't need anything morre powerful than a 480 right now, but I will be looking to upgrade to the next gen RYZEN, so I'll probably upgrade the PSU along with that
brittle coral
maybe 2013
waiting for the end of this year?
good call
i needed a new rig ASAP last christmas and i regret nothing but i want to have a 2nd again, i used to always have 2 rigs lol
now i have 3 but whose counting
idle harness
that of course depends on my financial situation when we get out of this mess
brittle coral
got a pair of X570 boards ready and i found a 2600x on amazon US for $100
❤️ my 3800x tho
forest sapphire
Love my 3900x
brittle coral
jelly af
forest sapphire
although I didn't go with an x570 board
brittle coral
yea i have an X570 AORUS Elite in my main rig, dual m2 slots ❤️
and the other is an X570 UD
2 4x electrical and 1 x16
i only need one SATA for that one to boot
should be enough for a pair of 1060s and a 2060
forest sapphire
Nice
Yeah I didn't need the PCI4.0
plus I was doing my best to keep within a budget
that well... I didn't stick to lol
idle harness
here's PPD for a 480 btw
brittle coral
wow im dubm i thought you meant a GTX480 xD
i forgot about the rx480
thats about what i expected
tell mine to wake up
also 14545 is an annoyingly slow WU i found on my cards lol
brittle coral
but yea, get those 2 480s going lol thats some good folding power for not to much power usage relatively speaking
LOL right
forest sapphire
so wish my GPU would get a WU
brittle coral
Fermi x2
oooof
yea my 580 and my 1060 are both idle but at least all the faster cards have work
forest sapphire
Yeah my 2080ti is HUNGRY for work... but currently REALLY BORED!
I might just play some games to feed it lol
solid anchor
Vega64 is just finishing off a WU now
fair berry
@idle harness i also have a 480, wtf is ellesmere?
red rampart
is folding at home breaking your gpu like mining bitcoin ?
smoky rose
Breaking? The load is the same. Full tilt.
red rampart
I mean you know how mining bitcoin is bad for the computer
brittle coral
ellesmere is the architecture name for that generation
corresponds to RX400 and RX500 series
fair berry
got it thanks
brittle coral
Navi is the new one with 5000x
hawaii was 200x and 300x if you see anyone posting that up
fair berry
you think they still exist?
brittle coral
they internally name these parts before model numbers are decided
and yes i have a 290x im trying to find a home for now
its to long for my case i was gonna use it in to fold lol
but a pair of 1060s won't be XD
and also i can better serve them with air using the 38x120mm 4000rpm delta fan im gonna aim at them
ait, sleep for me
right as i get work on all slots 😄
booyah
this is the RX580 for comparison to your 480 btw.
11763 coronavirus project idk why it didnt show yet lol, was still loading i guess
smoky rose
Project descriptions are not pulled from threads on foldingforum. They are supposed to be included by the scientist responsible for the project. This does not allways happen.
brittle coral
yea clock speeds make a difference lol
yea, its loaded now i just snapped a shot of it to soon after it started lol
smoky rose
Gotcha
muted trail
I can't seem to get my 5700 XT to be usable in the client
I'm running Fedora 32, however, so this makes me thinl it's a Linux issue
is there some kind of solution?
smoky rose
Advanced control
muted trail
Advanced control refuses to launch
smoky rose
Give us a screenshot of the default tab and upload the log to pastebin or something.
Uhm, ok.
Find the log file.
muted trail
right
brittle coral
Cue austin powers "yeah baby!"
this is best 5700xt WU 😄
fastest ive ever folded at once, the other rig needs to pick it up xD
i also realized right as i was going to bed that my fan profiles got deselected on the nvidia rig so hopefully that number moves up again now that they can turbo freely XD
boreal raven
which case is better nzxt elite or coolermaster mastercase h500
smoky rose
Which is more likely to break your back?
My recommendation have, for a very long time, been Cooler Master Stacker. :)
The most stupid case I've ever owned.
forest sapphire
YAY got a GPU
wu lol
feels like its been a while since I have gotten one
3.2mil ppd
onyx canopy
Could not get an assignment
Could not get an assignment
Could not get an assignment
Could not get an assignment
(:
onyx canopy
whenever I'm stuck with no assignment
restarting the process won't change anything
I always need to restart my computer
it's annoying when you're sleeping and it happens
slate lake
hm
onyx canopy
I read that pausing for 2mins resets the timer for the server
restarting the computer might cause the same effect
should add a script that pauses for 2min everytime it ended a wu
mild kiln
Is there FAH package for Arch?
onyx canopy
my FAH client is becoming worse and worse
I've gotten a wu displayed as 24hours long, running on both cpu and gpu with no cpu slot enabled
and giving estimated = base
had to remove all slots and add gpu again
odd barn
How many attempts are you at?
F@H Client: yes
rose tundra
good ol' pause and fold until you get a WU
solid anchor
I have had non-stop gpu WUs for the whole afternoon is seems
stiff geyser
yeah I've struggled to get any WUs for my 5700 for the past few days but now I've had two back to back so far
rose tundra
I have two cpu clients at 4 threads, and my 1080ti on this machine
CPU WUs are what I've mostly been getting (9900k)
solid anchor
yeah, me too... 4790 😛
rose tundra
my 4790k is just sitting in a z87 board doing nothing at the moment
a really nice CPU holder
solid anchor
not even a k part
rose tundra
what I'm using for holding all my spare hard drives like a NAS has a 4770k in it, but I don't even have that running now because I'm already warm enough in here
onyx canopy
my 4790k is too hot haha
4.5ghz with an hyper 212 evo at 1.29v
it's good for gaming but for folding temps are way too high
solid anchor
I would be able to handle a 4790k no prob... got the 4790 + vega64 on a custom loop... the vega64 is at 38degC while folding
rose tundra
I had to delid the 4790k to really get temps down
solid anchor
that does make sense
brittle coral
hey guys
apparently my 5700xt got work all through my being asleep judging by its progress on work right now
servers are definitely picking up
and god, i remember my 4790k
it was on water and it didnt even cool it because my GPUs put out to much heat xD
it idled at load temps and loaded only a tad higher
290x and 4790k combo was to much heat XD
2 290x no less
solid anchor
Prepare for jank AF
The folding rig, almost completely gifted parts aside from the case and PSU
rich depot
that cable management
main mist
whats the specs?
brittle coral
jank and yet you used hard tubing and made a custom bracket for the radiator lol. doesnt look so jank to me
that bracket looks well made too despite its simplicity
guess what i just opened in the mail @solid anchor
solid anchor
?
solid anchor
@brittle coral It's soft tubing... I do have hard tube, but that's a lot of work for so much jank 😉
Oooohhhhhhh
brittle coral
and a 2600x
solid anchor
that's nice 🙂
brittle coral
for the board that came yesterday and is already in case
i just need ram
ram isnt here yet lol
and the rtx2060 isnt either lol
solid anchor
Sweet 🙂
brittle coral
theres a 1060 miner tho
some other stuff idk yet, was hoping this guy would email me back on craigslist
he listed a 1060 for 60 bucks but i think someone was faster than me
solid anchor
@rich depot That is the look of give no fucks cable management 🙂 There is no window anyways 😉
brittle coral
also that cable management is fine
it's clean
its not absolutely gorgeous but it's clean
my rig is worse lol
dgaf
solid anchor
hehe
brittle coral
you make do when you have to
but fr, get yourself a nice coolermaster case
that case is so old im embarassed to say you missed the best case generation
solid anchor
Yup. For all prettymuch donated parts, I'm glad it is doing something useful 🙂
brittle coral
the generation of large panel sides with big fans and plexi windows or just metal cut out grilles
now they all have real glass sides with no airflow to show off the rig better
solid anchor
Oh, I bought that case new when it came out 🙂
brittle coral
and the front no longer has optical bays (i still use mine)
solid anchor
Like almost 20 years ago 🙂
brittle coral
they did all 200mm fans instead
or 220 240
lmfao
wow
yea dawg no one puts the PSU at the top now
its all bottom mounted with the fan as an intake, exahusting straight out of the case
no PSU heat in the main rig! not allowed
solid anchor
This is my daily driver workstation
brittle coral
nice
my water block needs to get here lol
so i can clean the old loop and prep it
solid anchor
mmhmm
I am still looking for a full size block for that 1080, but it's mostly for looks, some for noise.
solid anchor
@rich depot For which, the folding box or my workstation? My workstation is running an E5-1650v2 OC'd to 4.6GHz... it runs /warm/. 🙂 I also love the look
rich depot
ah ok nvm
my daily workstation runs under a air cooler
and I have a threadripper 2950x
solid anchor
air-coolers are certainly more reliable... I found them to be rather loud though. Another reason to get the 1080 under water. I do enough GPU-based compute that that thing is rather loud as well.
solid anchor
it should be... I'm not sure now that you mention it either
solid anchor
Ah nice, are you running that?
rich depot
yeah
solid anchor
sweet
rich depot
gets a bit toasty sometimes
solid anchor
That's sorta the "problem" with air coolers, if anything; they have a limited soak capability for hard thermal spikes. Custom loop blocks are a /bit/ better, or at least in theory can be
solid anchor
They run toasty anyways, right?
solid anchor
niice 🙂 I was looking at a 2950x from someone that I know; came with a x399 taichi, for about $650 USD. Unfortunately with all this virus stuff going on, I can't afford it :/
solid anchor
wow, that's a score!
solid anchor
And nothing was wrong with it?
whole island
@brittle coral Enjoy dinner 
whole island
I can neither confirm nor deny the facts of this claim
brittle coral
dang you found me XD
guys this individual gave me excellent support in their chat client and then i came over here cause ppl were @ me in various channels
rich depot
@solid anchor one of the ram sticks was snapped
solid anchor
@rich depot ahhh
brittle coral
helped me prep my attack plan for my old water cooling parts so i can fold harder 😄
going afk tho, family calling
whole island
Chemistry is fun
whole island
Won't form copper acetate like vinegar will.
Can adjust solution easier than vinegar dilution
brittle coral
yea vinegar also only comes so potent
6% is the strongest i can get
mighy you should see if you can get an industry affiliate tag 🙂
solid anchor
eyes his 99.99% IPA
whole island
If I do, I'd do it on my work account
brittle coral
hey! i need that for cleaning my glass xD
aye makes sense
ugh, UPS says my ram won't be here till saturday now 😦
oh wait, let me check the OTHER other kit on amazon that i also shipped. my friend ordered me another kit on newegg when i saw i was going to need a new kit cause my 890fx board/ram/cpu had a ghost, and then when i saw i was using all 16gb while folding and gaming and it was causing framedrops intermittently i ordered another kit myself on amazon where i'd been picking them up
F
thats not getting here till sunday
gdi xD
rich depot
my amazon account was locked for fraud
brittle coral
had a friend that happened to only it was identity theft
they stole the card not the acct
but it was the same one attached to their real acct
then posed as the same person and cancelled the charges on the card
so they wouldnt actually get charged, but it still screwed them over
they're disabled and get most of their needs delivered through amazon and fresh lol, took a whole day on the phone with the bank and amazon together in a 3 way call to sort it
thankfully those kinds of calls are recorded and it was obviously not her voice on the other end
brittle coral
wow wtf xD
rich depot
and hung up
brittle coral
i had an amazon staff member tell me when they instated limits on items that i could make another account (which is against TOS) to get around it
rich depot
lol
brittle coral
i ended up using 2 other real accounts my family has with history on them
but i also reported the shit out of them to their boss
brittle coral
not risking getting cut off from my own essential orders
brittle coral
Does your ISP let you switch IPs?
brittle coral
Some are dynamic as well already so you don't keep the same one long
Oof
Where I am thats something you pay for
We have 6 static IPs for things lol
trim nexus
anyone else notice a drop in the amt of gpu WUs in the last few days
onyx canopy
no worries, everyone has
solid anchor
@trim nexus It's a good thing, it means there is sufficient compute for the work they have to get done 🙂
onyx canopy
most of the messages I'm seeing are complaints about not having wus
trim nexus
true 
onyx canopy
including mines 🤔
trim nexus
just sad to see it drop that much
solid anchor
Hey, it's like Who's line is it anyways: the questions are important and the points don't matter 🙂
brittle coral
noice
onyx canopy
(daily its going lower and lower)
rich depot
brittle coral
howdy eon, guessing you just started couple days ago?
brittle coral
also lol @ pcmasterrace
i folded for them some for a bit while i was getting set up
then these guys put in the work helping me so i switched
im guessing you aren't folding 24/7 then
cause a 1060 can do about 380kppd maybe 400k 🙂
rich depot
I'm doing 24/7
brittle coral
ah for sure, surprised you are only at 800k points lol
this is what im getting with the 1060 rn
rich depot
24/7 when it actually gets work to do
brittle coral
are you using any slot flags to help it get more?
rich depot
no?
brittle coral
you can see in mine that one of my slots is asking for a download early for example
go to configure
open the slots tab
edit a slot
rich depot
mhm
brittle coral
scroll down and find the extra slot options
add the 2 values i have
client-type advanced opens you up to a test WU server that sends out WUs for validation testing before they go to the masses, the other one starts the client looking early
max time is 90%, i set my 1060 to 97%
the others are at 95%
rich depot
you have the mining variant though
brittle coral
when you have a 3800x and 5 different GPUs in 2 rigs all folding it helps a lot
yea
doesnt matter tho
performance is identical
the other slots are a 1070 and a 980ti, and the other rig has a 5700xt and a 580x
brittle coral
yea i just wish this guy on craigslist with a $60 1060 responded today
rich depot
like that?
rich depot
i have two slots
brittle coral
i would set the % for a 1060 to 97% like i said
on CPU it depends the performance, my 3800x gets 90-130kppd depending the WU and i set it to 95% as well but a faster CPU id set sooner (93-90%)
CPU seems to be the only one that gets WU consistently rn
this is the bonus 🙂
erg wrong screen
i am using VNC and i forget to tab out
rich depot
my main has threadripper 2950x
rich depot
nice
brittle coral
queued up and ready to go
and my 5700xt is about ot try
starting now lets see if it gets work before its done
7 minutes left it says
sometimes it doesnt and it sits waiting anyway
but it's helped me keep things going
rich depot
yeah
brittle coral
ayy
working as intended ^_^
ugh im sitting here for an hour wondering why i have no energy/pep yet after eating. forgot to take my extended release caffeine i'd planned on
I need to get to the store and get the stuff to clean my water loop but energy is hard
rich depot
ok
storm talon
Anyone have any experience with Squid proxy?
end goal would be to redirect all my daughter's chrome traffic to google classroom
rich depot
wrong place mate
storm talon
think so?
rich depot
or wrong channel
storm talon
idk, just making discussion waiting for wu's
rich depot
ah
storm talon
if you think I'd be better served in another channel that's cool
hushed bobcat
i've heard of squid, but thats about it
rich depot
probably #tech-support
brittle coral
larry my step dad might be able to help you
storm talon
cool, if I run into snags I will ask there ❤️
brittle coral
idk if he's free but he used to use a squid proxy on our network back as far as 2001
storm talon
did it work?
hushed bobcat
i'd check the networking channel
brittle coral
yes
storm talon
that's all I really needed to know thanks!
brittle coral
a 7200rpm 500gb drive (huge at the time) and we could cache most of the internet we went to
with a modern SSD it would be amazing
storm talon
and he blocked you from using stuff?
storm talon
nice
brittle coral
fucking dick xD
storm talon
tysm
brittle coral
i couldnt do anything
storm talon
my daughter is 10 and i wanna make tiktok and stuff go away