folding-and-boinc

[brittle coral]

that also answers my question though on if i can use a 1x riser or not since i can see how much bus it's using

hahaha mobius right, that would be dope

[stark bough]

ive just been doing back of envelope calculations.

just installed powerchute so i can get data on my power consumption

[hushed bobcat]

https://openenergymonitor.org/

Been thinking about getting one of these

[stark bough]

problem is we got TOU pricing so the price isnt stable

[brittle coral]

i just wish my family would buy a solar system because i know they could afford it but they haven't because they don't feel like investing in something that's THAT long term

🙄

but yet they keep saying how they are gonna probably retire in this home if possible

[stark bough]

if they're mostly away from 9am to 6pm, and is around for 10 years, it works out

awake

[brittle coral]

yea its dumb like they could have done it when we got the house and it would have already paid off, but that was also before a lot of the tesla products that are on the market now which dramatically dropped the price as well

now they could DEFINITELY do it no problem if they wanted to make a long term investment

[golden fulcrum]

A framebuffer (frame buffer, or sometimes framestore) is a portion of random-access memory (RAM) containing a bitmap that drives a video display. It is a memory buffer containing a complete frame of data.

So kinda useless really to determine PCIe bus utilisation

[brittle coral]

yea im aware

[golden fulcrum]

surprised they report on it really, as you'd expect if a GPU supports say, 4k or 8k internal rendering, and triple buffering, then they'd simply have a few MB handy to copy the BMP to for display.

Still can't find anything on PCIe utilisation with AMD sorry.

AIDA64 perhaps?

although that seems more aligned to CPU

[brittle coral]

yea

sounds cpu

[hushed bobcat]

HWinfo64?

[golden fulcrum]

That's what I was thinking of. lol.

😫

failing that, would RivaTuner work on AMD?

[storm talon]

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a32095395/cobol-programming-language-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR1Oc_ZUtamrkI0c1piVNltI-29FdXHP3gP04DpgEk_HwqcN2Jj9Do4J69M

yikes, your guys EI system is still running on cobol?

oof

I haven't touched that crap since college

[brittle coral]

Afterburner core is rivatuner @golden fulcrum

they're the same development base, afterburner is a more advanced fork

[storm talon]

btw guys I had to shut down my cluster

:/

[brittle coral]

noooo

[storm talon]

for now

I'm running a brute-force on a bitcoin wallet for someone rn

[brittle coral]

ooh ouch

wouldn't it be a lot easier to brute force a wallet though if you already have some idea of the password?

like if you forgot what it is but you have some list of passwords you used and it can brute force it by altering characters in various ways till it finds the right oje

one*

[storm talon]

yea i've been talking with a few of the hashers in here and that seems a route to go, however we have no clue what the password was, and there's 1.5btc in there from 10 years ago

Jo helped me find a really nice hashcat clustering suite that I'm using

[marble quartz]

damn

how long that gonna take?

[storm talon]

only about 87 years

still tuning things up

[brittle coral]

yea im sure with even a little bit of filtering you can get that down to something workable

[storm talon]

I mean I managed to pull over 1000 wu's for ltt in 2 weeks so

I literally started this morning with no clue how to use the crap I was using

and 8 hours later i'm hashing full power on 2 gpus and 60 cpus

[marble quartz]

yea like how r u going to divide the labor in the cluster

[storm talon]

and growing

that's the tricky part ya

it's the quagmire. you can bang 50 fat chicks for 100 bucks a piece, or 5 really fat chicks for 1000 bucks a peice

[golden fulcrum]

I had an app that cracked a wallet.dat password before, I've no idea where I put it though, I can check my HDDs to see if I can find it

[silver wing]

@brittle coral What about the FP of AMD is slow? More so than you expect?

[brittle coral]

just the fact that im getting worse performance with it than a gtx1060 in general right now

[storm talon]

@golden fulcrum we paid 800 bucks for a fancy cracker... it sat there on 12kh/sec for 9 months and didn't do nothing

[silver wing]

On what workload? FAH?

[brittle coral]

and the same on the rx580 im getting worse to about the same as a 780ti

yea

on specific WUs

[golden fulcrum]

I used one on my wallet.dat for ZCL and it took all of 10 seconds

[brittle coral]

but also in general, even at peak output, i'd expect a lot more

if we're going based on pure FP performance

[storm talon]

well if you find something, dm it to me, i'm all ears

[marble quartz]

did they use random generated password or what?

[golden fulcrum]

just ran the app with the wallet.dat in the same directory and it output the private key

[storm talon]

no it's my boss who is ... special

[golden fulcrum]

I'll see if I can find it

[storm talon]

and forgot the master key to his lastpass

[marble quartz]

reset the master key?

[storm talon]

it's old af

we tried all that

[brittle coral]

@silver wing on some WUs i get over 900k on the 5700xt and even that seems low but on 145** series covid WUs im getting like 450kppd-600kppd

and the RX580 is in the same boat

[golden fulcrum]

got a few 1080ti's (or 2080ti's) lol, can always check servethehome.com and see their Deep Learning 10, Deep Learning 11 machines

[silver wing]

Well it'll come down to optimization is still likely Intel based but both Zen/Zen+ and Zen2 have lower FP rate per core than Intel, but more cores to make up for it

[brittle coral]

but if i get a WU for that oxytocin receptor project they have then it flys

[storm talon]

I don't even use my zen cores for folding

useless

[silver wing]

So if the workload doesn't utilize all the cores well enough achieved FP rate is lower

[brittle coral]

yea im talking about GPU performance myself

[marble quartz]

lost access to email account?

[brittle coral]

fair

yea it doesnt seem like it is

the GPU is only hitting 50-80% utilization

[silver wing]

In the Zen/Zen+ microarchitecture the floating point physical registers, execution units, and data paths are 128 bits wide. For efficiency AVX-256 instructions which perform the same operation on the 128-bit upper and lower half of a YMM register are decoded into two macro-ops which pass through the FPU individually as execution resources become available and retire together. Accordingly the peak throughput is four SSE/AVX-128 instructions or two AVX-256 instructions per cycle.

[brittle coral]

according to drivers

[storm talon]

yea jogerj it's a brute force only type deal

[silver wing]

Zen 2 doubles the width of the physical registers, execution units, and data paths to 256 bits. The L1 data cache bandwidth was doubled to match. The number of micro-ops issued by the FP scheduler remains four, implying most AVX-256 instructions decode to a single macro-op which conserves queue entries and reduces pressure on RCU and scheduling resources.

https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/microarchitectures/zen_2

[brittle coral]

is that why my Zen 2 is so fast leadeater?

getting up to 135kppd

[astral stream]

[brittle coral]

i guess i should not expect similar performance out of a 2600x then?

[storm talon]

2600x you damn well better have a dual 120mm

cause she's gonna get HOT

[brittle coral]

yes

[silver wing]

Zen2 is twice as fast as Zen/Zen+ for AVX2 which is what FAH uses

[storm talon]

I was pushing 242w on my 2600x when i was folding on all cores

[brittle coral]

it was going to get the stock cooler from the 3800x i got but then i decided to go water and i didn't cancel the 212 black

[storm talon]

and it got to 85c on a single 120

good choice

[brittle coral]

so im going to pull the 38x120 5000rpm fan out of the miner thats not used

and snap it to the cooler

not even going to bother with a second one

xD

[storm talon]

push pull it

[brittle coral]

literally no point

[silver wing]

^

[brittle coral]

i dont have a spare fan of equal power

[storm talon]

that's the point though lol

[brittle coral]

5000rpm

175cfm

[storm talon]

are you running posi or neg

[brittle coral]

and it has a 1200cfm blower running into the case

its open

[silver wing]

2nd fan would just be an obstruction

[brittle coral]

yup

[storm talon]

open

hmm

[brittle coral]

any fan i could use would be an obstruction

even another fan of the same power

[burnt whale]

if its open just use a room fan

[storm talon]

yea i run closed positive pressure

[brittle coral]

the positive pressure is already to high

i can't and get the same temps

as with a 1200cfm blower aimed directly into the fins of the 980ti

[storm talon]

it's fun dicking around and talking about all the options tho eh

[brittle coral]

and the p106-100 also loves it, runs 45c load temps

yea dude right xD

remember

i have a stack of these blowers

[storm talon]

106100 is a minng card?

[silver wing]

what you need though is buckets of water and drop dry ice in them in front of the intakes, go for 0C or less 🙂

[brittle coral]

Yea

It's a 1060 6gb

There's a 104-100 as well

1070 miner

and a 3gb 106-90

dude i want to get chilled water running on my loop some day

i need to make a chiller that doesnt use a lot of power somehow

[silver wing]

lol impossible

[brittle coral]

to bad i can't just use my fridge

or freezer

i have a mini fridge and freezer in here but that would be a good 5-6 meters of extra tubing run

i would need to have a chilling loop and a cooling loop for the PC with unified reservoir

[marble quartz]

I thought ltt proved freezer's aren't fast enough to dissipate heat

unless I remember wrong

[brittle coral]

maybe

ive never looked into it

i figured they wouldn't be the best on their own

but

[marble quartz]

https://youtu.be/B8bhGw4vUFE?t=570

[silver wing]

cheapest is those underground earth coolers where you like core drill along and down many meters and you flow and return air/water

[brittle coral]

if you freeze a block of ice

with a radiator in it

using antifreeze coolants

^^^

i have a patio out in front of my bedroom though

i'd have to first go through the wall, then through concrete

dig a trench under the concrete

which is the part i dont know how to really do easily

i could do the rest

i need a carbide for my impact but i could do it xD

but the main issue

we're about 1-2ft above the flood plane

and under us is clay

xD

i do not mind digging up the back yard tho the lawn is pretty dead

and theres more dirt than lawn at this point

i could reseed the whole thing with moss and clover and it would look nicer and my mom would probably prefer it

[silver wing]

freezing ice isn't any more efficient though compared to an actual chiller, you'd also likely have a burn rate of the ice higher than you could produce it so could only do chilled for some period of less than a day per day

so you might as well just run the chiller for the same length of time

with a bypass to rads

personally I want to use my server rack as a pre-heater for my hot water

[storm talon]

oops, wrong chat :/

[hushed bobcat]

https://www.servethehome.com/amd-epyc-7f52-benchmarks-review-and-market-perspective/

I want to see folding numbers for this

[brittle coral]

wow

thats a CPU alright

[stark bough]

well damn

New UPS, owned 5 like it in the past. both on board and software based self test cause it to power off. hard

[brittle coral]

man

i found 2 sites that look possibly idk but they have GTX1080s for $89 for 24hrs

wondering if i should pull out the protected credit card and order one and see if it's legit

[marble quartz]

no paypal option?

also what brand

sounds like something out of wish.com

[brittle coral]

there is one

and yea it is

gigabyte windforce

[marble quartz]

Or defective cards

[brittle coral]

https://matastore.me/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-windforce-oc-gvn1080wf3oc8gd-graphics-cards-p-9412.htmlhttps://matastore.me/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-windforce-oc-gvn1080wf3oc8gd-graphics-cards-p-9412.html

https://www.bellfor.life/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=17905

same price same card 2 dif stores

makes me think they're offloading mining hardware

not that i'd mind for $89 as long as it works, maybe i'll take al ook at getting into my paypal lol

[marble quartz]

If it's too good to be true

Probably is

[brittle coral]

yeaaa

but also

theres lots of miners of that model for cheap as well

in the 1070 and 1060 variety

thats the kind i was gifted, windforce 1060 but p106 style

[marble quartz]

They ship from china

https://who.is/whois/bellfor.life

[brittle coral]

one of them has an outlook email and the other has a gmail xD

[marble quartz]

Registered On
2020-03-28

[brittle coral]

xD

also

the card doesnt come up when you search on the site

only on google shopping

which is where i found it searching

[golden fulcrum]

scam. lol. there's already scam ryzen CPUs coming out of china, and lately scam RTX GPUs too

[brittle coral]

sick

xD

thanks ochina

[storm talon]

I mean

china does knock off knock offs

they legit don't care

kinda sucks as a western consumer when you buy a set of MDR-V500's for 150 bucks and they show up all in chinese writing except for the model MDR-Z500

i'm like bruh

[brittle coral]

ive had to report stuff to amazon a few times cause of that

[marble quartz]

Amazon is amazing i take them for granted too often

[brittle coral]

someone just donate me a generator that can run a 50a 120v/60hz for long enough that i can sleep through it, enough gas for a year, and a rig that has a pile of titan rtx or 2080ti in it, i'd be stoked. alternatively just install more grid power and a 50a from the wall to a distro box i have. then i can out fold the rig LTT built xD

mostly im just dreaming tho, bored and need projects

[silver wing]

Just get 3 phase and then switch over to triple single phase 240v output and be like the rest of the world, better 😉

[dusky seal]

well this is a pain :/

i have two clients running right now on two different machines, same network, port 36330 tcp and udp allowed on the windows firewall on both machines, all ip's allowed to connect to the fah client and the sucker still wont connect to the remote client

double checked ip and i can ping both of them from each other

this is why windows is a steaming pile of doodoo 😂

[rich depot]

Sure is 🙂 I've all my linux servers running FAHclient as well and have them all in FAHControl on my mac

only thing needed was to open up the port on the linux box

and put in the config the IP from where I'm connecting as well as remote password

I have another strange thingy though.... I have basically after every completed WU the situation that the client is idle (not receiving work, staying on "Download 0.00%") for hours and hours

when I restart the client on the box it often gets work straight away

The retry is pretty long I saw, but does anybody else also have this behaviour?

too little WU available?

[vital edge]

Not really no. I occasionally get a dip in WU like yesterday. I think perhaps my hardware munches through them so slowly that it will rarely be an issue. An issue for better hardware?

There’s some sort of system that allocates the jobs. Not sure how it works. A balance of hardware capability and sharing WU evenly?

[brittle coral]

Theres been server side issues

they are getting something like 6tb an hour of data

and they haven't figuredo ut the best ways to automate some of the things that need to be done to solve the bottlenecks

they are working on it though lol

[stark bough]

mostly im just dreaming tho, bored and need projects
@brittle coral
Dig a hole to China and run a minecart through it to save yourself shipping costs.

dig deep enough and you can cheap geothermal power anywhere

[silver wing]

@brittle coral You should prepare for the BOINC pentathlon in May if you're bored

[brittle coral]

hahaha fair

what are they doing

[silver wing]

they don't announce the projects until a day or so before due to how BOINC client works, anti cheating

but you should get it installed and sign up to the common projects as each one needs and account separately

[brittle coral]

got it, so if i wanted to just focus rosetta it wouldn't help me win the contest much im guessing xD

yea i used toh ave accounts for several

[silver wing]

no because it may not even be part of it lol

[brittle coral]

but i can't get into them right now =/

i'd rather just fold and run rosetta lol

i had over 300m points for milkyway@home

#6 team anandtech all time

and i can't fucking log in xD

[silver wing]

there's always a marathon event which is a good zero touch one

[brittle coral]

ooh and neither can the team creator

if anyone whose had BOINC accounts for milkyway@home or seti or other common ones for years has trouble logging in, lmk

[silver wing]

usually World Community Grid

[brittle coral]

i hadnt logged in since 2014

you think if i remade my account using the same email i think i used and name that it would link the 2? XD

[silver wing]

no idea

if your account still exists it would complain it exists, which means use password recovery

if not, tis broke

[brittle coral]

hah some chud bumped me to 7th

he has almost 3m recent average credit

and yea

its broke af

im fucked 😦

[silver wing]

pent event is a really good one to do though, since there is concurrent projects running with different run days during the event, and points per event

[brittle coral]

https://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/show_user.php?userid=104623

[silver wing]

so you can't just smash the marathon and win, you'll place last lol

[stark bough]

2010 nice

[brittle coral]

2009

actually

thats just the LAST contact with those rigx XD

or maybe it was 2010 idk its been so long

[silver wing]

also it's a team event not indv

[brittle coral]

yea

i'd probably keep rolling for team anandtech lol

[silver wing]

booo

[brittle coral]

what im one of their oldest members xD

[silver wing]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/XH9VpICwRlS48/200.gif

[stark bough]

ok BOINCer

[brittle coral]

friends with one of the forum admins locally

[silver wing]

hands over his zero cares

[brittle coral]

LTT didn't even exist yet xD

was cpu running seti in like 2006

[silver wing]

Think I only started last years or 2018

[brittle coral]

yea i was 16 lol

i tried running folding@home and it wasnt stable on my rig

so i ran seti

[silver wing]

hit top producer for all of NZ and Aus for a few projects 🙂

cpu only ones ofc

[brittle coral]

https://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/team_members.php?teamid=77&offset=0&sort_by=total_credit

i could bump that up so fast if i could log in =/

[silver wing]

At the time I had 2 quad socket systems going and 24 dual socket

[brittle coral]

the only seriously active contributor is hitting my 3x my RAC from 2010

or idk even

its been so long

dang lol

[silver wing]

yea, crushing it lol

[brittle coral]

yea i just had a Q9550 at 4.6ghz and a Q9650 also at 4.6ghz

with 4 5870s

and later got 2 7950s

then it didnt support my 290x and i stopped

[silver wing]

https://www.boincstats.com/stats/-1/user/detail/73865193219/projectList

all during the pent

Still country rank 1 for NFC@Home it seems

your world rank is 10x better than mine 🙂

like almost exactly heh

[brittle coral]

wow xD

so yea

when the 5870 launched it was the same price everywhere

stores and online

and i worked at frys

so guess who got the very 2 XFX 5870 reference cards

then later, i got 2 more XFX non-reference cooler cards with a center mounted fan, right as those came out

that was sept 2009

to like

dec2009

basically of the stock the store got in that time due to shortages, i bought half of it before it hit shelves

xD

[brittle coral]

alright

it was gettng cold

so i switched over to milkyway@home on the AMD rig

i want to benchmark it for a bit and see what kind of RAC it generates

looks like milkyway@home is much easier on my GPU than folding

its running cooler

hot spot at 85c core at 67c and it has these dips every few seconds in the WU

also WUs take a minute and 40 seconds to complete xD

some how both my GPUs are completing them in about the same amount of time though lol

i think it thinks both cards are RX580s lol

im betting there's some kind of config file magic i could do xD

seems like it's using 100% of the GPU tho

both are pegging 95-100% minus the dips in adrenalin

[silver wing]

Tempted to run LHC and NFS to break in to the top 100

but I'd have to stop FAH

[brittle coral]

this rig was getting 1mppd when it should be getting more if the WUs it was getting were optimized well xD

i dont mind taking it down to benchmark milkyway@home for a day or 2

seems rosetta@home only does CPU work tho and im not having trouble getting CPU WUs so i left it for now

i may toss rosetta@home on the 2600x when it gets here though because apparently folding@home runs way worse on zen+

[silver wing]

I'm only CPU FAH atm

[brittle coral]

word

[silver wing]

still hitting ~3m PPD though

[brittle coral]

it looks like in boinc i can add FahCore_22 to the list of programs to suspend for

[silver wing]

oh nice

[brittle coral]

so once i benchmark my RAC on this im going to add that flag

and let both compete for GPU time

so that when folding@supple fulcrumme sends me shit

i can run it

[silver wing]

hopefully that will work out really well

[brittle coral]

hahaha sorry ho

thats unfortuante idk how it tagged you i didn't select to

yea i hope so

[supple fulcrum]

okay

im fine with that

[brittle coral]

i bet that happens a lot

in here

[silver wing]

1st time I've seen it lol

[brittle coral]

but yea, i see only one issue being that on a multiple gpu rig you might have it suspend when one GPU has work and the other doesn't and then it'l still idle milkyway

[silver wing]

hmm yea

only way round that is a polling script per GPU/slot

if idle resume boinc

[brittle coral]

you can do that?

how do

[silver wing]

fahclient command, you can get ppd, pretty sure per slot

so if zero then no WU

probably also a status command too I guess

[brittle coral]

for sure

btw, looks like my completion times are not the same on both cards

[rich depot]

how about the base points? @brittle coral are those the same?

[brittle coral]

base points?

they are the same for each unit in F@H generally, i dont lose any on the base end

when i ran identical cards those numbers were normally always within a few second of each other 🙂

milkyway uses double

the difference on the faster WUs is because of turbo for sure

i have the turbo set to 2038mhz rn

averaging 2ghz

lol, i thought i got it in time but it looks like it sent me a ton of CPU WUs for milkyway@supple fulcrumme as well only now they're all each on their own core cause theres a bunch of em all running at varying paces even tho they started at the same time xD

[supple fulcrum]

yes and i still get tagged

hooray

[brittle coral]

!!

i swear im not doing it!

[supple fulcrum]

yeah it wasn't a gaming moment

whatever i don't car doe

[brittle coral]

thats starting to bug me tho i have been typing that syntax for days in here and thats the first time its happened, maybe one of my keys is heavy

i bet you im hitting enter while hitting shift to do the @ and its tagging it that way because im typing just fast enough to hit it

[silver wing]

@brittle coral FAHClient.exe --send-command slot-info

[brittle coral]

where do i stick that?

may have to walk me through it a bit

im running on 6 hrs of sleeep each night for 4 days now trying to get a normal sleep schedule and i keep manic working on project stuff till well past when i want to be in bed by xD

well

at least its cozy in here now

i turned the fan down a level coming in the window and im letting the temps build up a bit before i turn it back up for when i go to bed lol, always hotter during the day

@silver wing was it you who said to look at bus useage earlier for something else?

im just wondering how to read the readout on this

i know its in %

but is that like, % utilization of the bus given to it?

or something else

[silver wing]

In a batch script or powershell and then use task scheduler to run it every like 5 mins

[brittle coral]

got it

i'll ask you again probably when i actually go to set it up, not gonna worry about it now

idk for sure if im going to even long term run milkyway anyway, i mostly just wanted to bench it for old times sake

[silver wing]

what you have now would at least work if both are idle

[brittle coral]

and put a new name on the board in place of my old one high enough up that i can flex like "yea im still here what up"

milkyway never really idles

[silver wing]

FAH....

lol

[brittle coral]

yea but i think i can do all i need through the GUI for now

mostly, i just can feel my pain meds kicking in and rapidly fogging up my short term memory

[silver wing]

yea, if you're looking for core22 then at least it'll run if both are idle in FAH

[brittle coral]

yea

especially since if it isnt running anything the EXE wont even exist 🙂

should be easy to figure out, its either running at load or its not at all, now to figure out how to make it differentiate between each GPU

if it needs to

it may just do it automatically which would be great

[silver wing]

got a GPU WU by mistake checking those commands

[brittle coral]

but i never assume anything is THAT great till i test it

hahaha

oops

[silver wing]

6 hour eta

[brittle coral]

i guess you're letting it run then

[silver wing]

yea clicked finish

[brittle coral]

little delay on those hashes wont hurt to bad

[silver wing]

nah they idle normally

these for gaming

[brittle coral]

ugh. cannabis flavored everclear. tincture xD

i am an individual of many scientifically oriented talents lol

and yea

idk i dont really care, i compute on my gaming gear plenty

its extra processing power and i don't have enough income to have dedicated stuff like that

[silver wing]

I got work servers for the 🙂

'work'

[brittle coral]

well, i have a bit, but you know

nice

i need to find a good stay at home tech support job lol

[silver wing]

if I don't ask they won't say no 😉

[brittle coral]

i wonder what kind of performance the nvidia GPUs get in milkyway

when the 5870 came out it was the fastest card period

and AMD has always had a paper advantage on double compute on the cards that have been supported in milkyway

i think the 290x was the oddball out

idk about the 390 i'd assume the same of it since it was based on the 290x

[silver wing]

would come down to if it's memory bandwidth performance or core performance

[brittle coral]

its double float performance that matters

for the most part

[silver wing]

then likely core perf bound

[brittle coral]

thats what made the 5870 such a milkyway powerhouse for those who ran them

[silver wing]

amd does rather well on memoy stuff since nvidias memory compression doesn't work as well on compute compared to gaming

and amd memory compress sucks ass

[brittle coral]

the gtx480 and 470 had 1/8th the gflops double as well

[silver wing]

it's why AMD needed HBM and nvidia didnt

[brittle coral]

which i think was the big factor

yea lol

HMB is still nice tho

[silver wing]

fury x with GDDR6 would have been so much less fail

but timing was not on it's side at all

same for vega

btw double on basically all consumer GPUs has sucked for ages now

7970 much higher than 290X for example

And it is also double Fury X which was slower at double than both

[brittle coral]

im curious what kind of performance i can eek out of milkyway@home with these shit f@H WUS (for AMD) that only hit 50-80% GPU

theres enough GPU time there for some space research 😄

like, if all this fails and we dont cure covid and we all die, were gonna need to look for a place to go! right?

[rich depot]

😂

[brittle coral]

o h shit

guess who just got their $1200 from the government

im really really tempted to burn it on a 2070 super for my main rig and stick the AMD card in the garage lmfao

put all my AMD cards that work in one rig, run a p106-100 in here

with the 2070

must resist

[silver wing]

lol

living in the back of an ally with an RTX 2070 plugged in to the wall being used as a hand warmer

"yep this was a good decision"

[brittle coral]

are you kidding, i'd be so cozy

steal a 20a worth of power and run both rigs

xD

the garage is actually bearable right now

normally its freezing

"freezing"

[silver wing]

next gen barrel fire

benefit of working public sector (ish) is strong job security for me

zero job risk for me which is nice

not even legal here so lol

cos that worked out so well

weed is easy to spot, everyone moves to meth/P/MDMA etc

gj

so much better...

yep and a ton of stuff is "enhanced" with fentanyl so they can make it as cheap as possible but that stuff is supposed to be lab accurate amounts

[golden fulcrum]

Good news... spare PSU working, finishing crunching the WUs that died last night.

Bad news... lost a ton of points (and potentially the Platinum PSU - still to test).

Now I'm nervous about the Titanium PSU as I can't afford to lose it too.

Pricing on au.pcpartpicker.com was like $600+ for the Platinum, and $1000+ for the Titanium 😮

[rich depot]

F

No wonder it feels colder today

[golden fulcrum]

No GPU WUs hey..

[rich depot]

I've one of 5 slots going, all GPU

[golden fulcrum]

I'm going to try stress testing again tonight with the good PSU.. if it fail too.. then it fails too.

They're only 2yrs into a 10yr warranty anyway.

[spark salmon]

Sorry guys, How do I check if I won something? I thought winners would be emailed and so I've been sitting on my ass 😦

Oh wait, I think I figured it out

Oh cool! I didn't win anything but I'm glad a lot of lower ranked people still got steam keys for their efforts. That was a great event!

[golden fulcrum]

huh?

won what?

and @brittle coral know what you mean. I'd have a working business now if it weren't for the same.

[spark salmon]

a bunch of people who took place in the 14 day Covid19 folding thing got steam keys and I was curious how to find out who.

But I found the spreadsheet on google docs

[onyx canopy]

LOL

[odd barn]

ayy

[onyx canopy]

its a long one tho

[odd barn]

How y'all doin

[onyx canopy]

rly good

[odd barn]

My GPU isn't getting any covid stuff, it's gettin myosin stuff lol

[onyx canopy]

it's sunny outside

[odd barn]

It's gloomy outside for me. Was really hoping for warmer weather since my dad's car needs an oil change, but looks like I'm gonna have to wait

[onyx canopy]

its not covid for me either

[odd barn]

indeed

[odd barn]

that one too, lol

Not saying it's a bad thing at all anyway, just the topics alone are interesting in themselves

[onyx canopy]

I want to help for covid but I couldn't get any wu for an hour or so

that's why FAH wants to expand

the demand is too high lol

[odd barn]

Yeah, but who knows how much funding the government health entity is giving them to do so

If I were rich I'd probably give them a few servers of their own

[onyx canopy]

is this a good amd one ?

rx 570 ?

I think you said that

580 okayy

how did you get those ?

I mean

the cards

are they friend's ?

oh right

5700xt is better than 1070

for gaming I mean

thats why you got one

for folding ?

you'd only purchse for folding ? Its quite honorable

seems on par

[rich depot]

Honestly a 2060 is faster atfolding than a 1080

[onyx canopy]

ye

but for gaming a 1080 is better

[rich depot]

My 1080 on water still cant match my cheapo 2060 most of the time

[onyx canopy]

yeah but 2060 on water

would kill your 1080 on water :P

yeah

[rich depot]

Well the thing is, you're better off spending a little bit more on a 2060 than a older 1080ti if you're power is anything other than super cheap

Its an aorus waterforce, no work needed

[onyx canopy]

2060 super ?

[rich depot]

Still decent temps though

That's folding full tilt with a decent inside temp today

[onyx canopy]

buying used for mining folding is worth it

3h30 for 186k

mmmh

but its not covid :(

are you in the us ?

[solid anchor]

Did even non-working US citizens get that stimulus money?

That is really nice of the grubbermint then. In Canada there is an up to $2000 / month for 4 months available to unemployed workers due to covid19.

[onyx canopy]

my 2070 has a 1M2 - 1M3 ppd

[rich depot]

I'm not sure tbh, I dont really monitor it per say, like 1.1-1.3 on the 2060, the 2070 seems about 1.2-1.4, 1.6 on some very rare units

[onyx canopy]

nope, not that big

[rich depot]

my 2060 right now

my 2070 is idle

[onyx canopy]

2070

[rich depot]

But that is power limited to 80%

[onyx canopy]

depends on the wu

[rich depot]

^^

My 2070 is weird though...

[onyx canopy]

ouch

I wonder if some wus are only nvidia compatible and others amd compatible

[solid anchor]

My vega64 can blast through wus, assuming it gets any 😦

[onyx canopy]

185k in less than 7mins

;_;

[rich depot]

The thing is RDNA is new, it will take a generation or two more to stabilise and optimise for the arch

[onyx canopy]

btw guys

[rich depot]

GCN is much older, and we are already at the point of maxing out what we can get on that

[onyx canopy]

have you seen the new xbox and ps5 ? as powerfull as 2080ti with ryzen

1tB nvme

[rich depot]

Same with turing, the only parts that are used atm are CUDA cores, which have mostly remained the same for many generations now on team green

F@H is coming back to consoles in the near future

[onyx canopy]

I really hope the new xbox has some windows features

so we can dev some stuff for it

[rich depot]

Honestly MS need to just let you use it as a desktop and just pull the bottom out the market

[onyx canopy]

ps5 will most likely be for gaming only

I wonder why microsoft went for no boost at all while sony will have an equivalent of nvidia's gpu boost

Honestly MS need to just let you use it as a desktop and just pull the bottom out the market
@rich depot every cost would be halved in the component industry

[rich depot]

Because the xbox has more CUs so no need to boost.

We need to talk about folding though...

[odd barn]

I have a gigabyte 2060 as well :p

Got it for a pretty good price tbh

[onyx canopy]

noice

[odd barn]

What currency is that faxon

Ahhh okay one sec

Paid about $303 US

Nope

About two weeks ago

Lmaooooo

Yeah, new

[onyx canopy]

wow the ps5 have way less cus

[odd barn]

A place called Canada Computers :p

I live in Canada hehe

Initially I was going to order it from newegg but it made more sense to me to pay a little bit more for my components and pick them up from the store

Especially because some components couldn’t be shipped by newegg at the time

[rich depot]

Been looking on Twitter, seems like they're using smaller chunk WUs to meet the demand of average PCs which are just using CPU crunching. As far as Silicon Valley, EA only knows to be better is to buy their competition or pay huge sums to get exclusive rights(Madden)--whenever I've been offered a job, I quickly walked the other way. Same can be said about Microsoft during the Ballmer days, if you did any opensource work(Linux) after leaving MS they'd have more excuses to demand a code audit--key reason I've avoided job offers related to Windows QA(Vista/7 era) and Office.

[onyx canopy]

whats happening

13:38:56:WU00:FS01:Connecting to 13.82.98.119:80
13:39:17:WARNING:WU00:FS01:Exception: Failed to send results to work server: Failed to connect to 13.82.98.119:80:

im loosing credits

because it can't send ?

wtf is that

[rich depot]

GPU WUs are in short supply due to hourly limits

[onyx canopy]

yh but i'm loosing credits

its to send the wu i've completed

not to get one

the previous one

this one

[rich depot]

It could be possible they issued the same WUs out and your WU became stale--it happens quite a bit

[onyx canopy]

I don't think the error would show as "can't connect to the server"

my estimated credit go lower and lower

[rich depot]

Just possible they're getting hammered due to the amount of new Folding members, nobody ever expected C19 would cause many people to get into distro-computing like Folding

Also the end of Seti@Home has driven up the number of folding users too

[onyx canopy]

faxon

look at the collection server

its google

???

[rich depot]

yep, it ended due to reaching their goals--Seti only had so much data

It was in the news awhile back, they finished up all the work units

I have no idea

Those servers are useless unless you want to get creative with using 4-lane GPUs... it could be fun to run a low-cost Blender render server 😉

Most crypto boards were B150/B250 boards

E5 v4 CPUs are powerful as is

Just to think when I got my Dell PowerEdge via refurb outlet, 32GB was overkill for an E3 v5 🙂

[simple swan]

i get a decent amount of WU's not a whole alot even for gpu some days, but on the bright side i can use my pc this winter as a heater

that kinda sucks, but if it can work then less power hungry system heating the house

but summer ooft i would die in my room from the heat australia man summer is good but fuck 30+

[rich depot]

In my opinion I'm aiming at a carbon neutral folding, run a rig off solar power 🙂

Ground core cooling would be tricky, in the northeast some people have stuck servers in the basement but just high enough to avoid the risk of flooding

While you're at it, get heat via geo-thermal too 🙂

In my area it would require metal pilings and I'm sure the rocky nature of the land would be a bit unrealistic

One way I've worked on cooling is use the ocean via custom heatsink... a floating folding server would be fun 🙂

I'm on the coast, may as well make use of the environment 🙂

[smoky rose]

How are we doing today? I heard the fans spinning up as I left home a few moments ago.

Fjord is a Norwegian thing.

We have had a bad habit of occupying our neighbours.

Yep, that's Denmark.

Well, to answer that I would have to break a few server rules. :)

[rich depot]

Folding is the closest common ground in the post-Seti era 🙂

I remember reading about Seti in Newsweek as a HS student, that is how long ago it was

[smoky rose]

You got a check at least. I'm not getting one. We are pumping billions into bank credits and giving corporations tax breaks.

[rich depot]

Cruise Lines are getting bailed out even though they're based in another country/ships flagged in Libera

[supple fulcrum]

why i keep getting
pinged

damn

[rich depot]

😆

Got nothing as consulting/self employed doesn't have a pay stub or unpaid until a project is offered/completed

Its hard when someone has stolen my identity multiple times... ugh

[solid anchor]

I can leave the folding rig running, but that's about all... everything else is being squirrelled away for the inevitable financial crisis after all this covid19 is sorted out :/

[solid anchor]

@golden fulcrum uh, the costs to maintain an airliner are /not/ minimal. Like, at all.

Sure, but that costs money to put them into that state, and time.

Sure. But it is not cheap, and there are a /lot/ of repercussions of grounding large parts of an airlines fleet. Have a look at blancolirio's youtube channel... he's a 777 pilot and goes over some of the issues involved.

[rich depot]

Will using this program on my 2019 MacBook pro be helpful

[onyx canopy]

how fah could give less credit because they have a server issue

they need to fix this

186k originally, now 149k

3h20 of folding

[rich depot]

The points don't really matter, the work does... lets just not pay attention to the points for the time being.

At the end of the day we are all being affected so as far as competitive goes we are equal more or less

[golden fulcrum]

I'd just hate to see it as another money grab by large corporations, when their hard working people on the ground floor are getting laid-off (yet a lot of execs are still drawing $$$ in some instances).

We lost our last local car manufacturer that way. mother company siphoned off the money, and then closed down the shop when the govt. handouts dried up.

yeah. good point @rich depot back to folding where we can actually make a difference

[solid anchor]

@rich depot The points mean more WUs are completed, more WUs completed means more knowledge is acquired, the knowledge makes the mind question, the questions create more WUs, this is the way.

[golden fulcrum]

this is the way

[rich depot]

But I mean right now, why does it matter how many points you are awarded, we are literally crunching every WU they can put out. Yeah there are issues but we are getting stuff done faster than ever before

[solid anchor]

I know, more points = more WUs done 🙂 It's a good thing 🙂

[golden fulcrum]

lol, and we all want more of both don't we.

[onyx canopy]

ye

[rich depot]

Even now with all these issues, we have 3-5x the number of WUs served than we did in November

What i'm trying to say is, If you end up with 10% less points per WU due to server issues what does it matter realistically at the end of the day. The work is getting done, at a stupid high rate

[golden fulcrum]

Did I just get smacked on the hand? a lot of my posts are gone

[onyx canopy]

they weren't expecting such a success

so the means are not made for almost 3exaflops

I mean 3exaflops of wu

[rich depot]

Very true bloom, they have gone from 30-50k users to something pretty close to 1M in a month. Even a commercial system would struggle to scale that quickly

[golden fulcrum]

ok..... can anyone hear me?

[solid anchor]

Yes

[rich depot]

Yes

[solid anchor]

@rich depot I remember when seti@home exploded years ago, that was awesome as well 🙂

[golden fulcrum]

ok. weird.. 'cause when I scrolled up several of my posts were deleted and I wasn't sure if I was shadow banned or something.

[rich depot]

Yeah, seti is what got me into DC a long time ago

[golden fulcrum]

ok, anyway. apologies if I offended anyone. I'm off. happy folding all.

[idle harness]

When you're folding at your screen suddenly goes black 😬

[rich depot]

F

[plain geyser]

been stuck sending for 9 hours

even restarting cant fix it?

is it bugged?

[hushed bobcat]

Collection servers are pretty low on space right now

[idle harness]

after the crash my CPUs work unit says its finished, even though it was nowhere near done

[plain geyser]

k

[smoky rose]

@plain geyser you can check the server stats on the far website.

[odd barn]

henlo again

[rich depot]

henlo? not hengelo?

[normal ridge]

Hey there, my client is stuck on connecting. Is anyone else having the same issue?

[simple swan]

my gpu is un happy with no WU's while my cpu goes ham

finally got one for the gpu

[smoky rose]

@normal ridge yes. There are more folders than the number of wu that can be assigned. Just leave it and you will get one eventually.

To make sure there are no errors on your side you can check the log. Advanced control. Third tab.

No wu for this configuration means what I just said.

[marble quartz]

Yea got no GPU WUs all day today

It's one of those days

[dusky seal]

same

i think after the cpu wu i have on my server is done im gonna kill the box and move it to ubuntu, maybe that will be less of a pita than trying to get the remote working on windows :/

[smoky rose]

Headless Linux + correct drivers and you are good to go.

[dusky seal]

stuffs all been behaving weird on windows vm... like fah advanced viewer the local keeps just disappearing off the list

[smoky rose]

You are running vms right?

[dusky seal]

yeah

might get my other 3 servers up a folding tonight too

just a bit worried about having to many servers going full kilt on one measly 15a circuit breaker along with my desktop

[smoky rose]

That's weird behavior. Like fah on that machine dies.

Don't turn your stove on!

[dusky seal]

i can still get to the client from web, but the advance viewer is just going to hell

who needs to turn on the stove? i can just use my closet

😄

[smoky rose]

Hah

[dusky seal]

48 cores of yummy cooking XD

and enough ram to call it a waste lol

[smoky rose]

How much do you have and how much gets used?

[dusky seal]

412gb XD

[smoky rose]

How much vram is in use? Or cpu only?

[dusky seal]

the servers dont have any gpu's

they weren't put together with this workload in mind

[smoky rose]

So...fah use 1-2% of available ram?

[dusky seal]

im using 4gb on each server

16gb/412gb

[smoky rose]

4%

[dusky seal]

the servers are configured with dev vm's, node applications, game servers, and web servers in mind

so none of them have gpu's

[smoky rose]

And then SARS-CoV-2 had to cause drama.

[dusky seal]

lol, just about

and since how i have them configured, even know i have a few lp gpu's laying around i cant even add them in without having reinitialize the whole system

[smoky rose]

Good thing FAH stepped up with a big ads sign saying "Can't sit with us".

[dusky seal]

lol

right now i have 18/24 threads of the one server running fah so i can still have a small game server running

and my node stuff doesnt give a crap about cpu usage as long as it gets that little itty piece of a cycle its happy

[rich depot]

Me doing good things

[dusky seal]

nice!

Keep on going!

[marble quartz]

actually been wondering how macos fares in folding

[dusky seal]

ive only swapped my hardware over to folding about 5 days ago

[rich depot]

It works fine

But I don’t have a dedicated GPU, so cpu only here

[marble quartz]

like I got hackintosh on another drive but macos doesn't support gpu folding so I didn't bother

[dusky seal]

slowly but surely working my way up there

[marble quartz]

yea gpu doesn't work anyways on macos u have to boot camp

[dusky seal]

oof

thanks apple

[rich depot]

@marble quartz if it doesn’t, hoe can it be that people on macOS with GPUs running for FAH are counted seperately in a list

[dusky seal]

im trying to hit that 1m mark by Friday

[smoky rose]

What's your ppd?

[rich depot]

1 project takes plus minus an hour

Because this is the base model

[marble quartz]

https://foldingathome.org/support/faq/installation-guides/mac/requirements/

GPU Slot Requirements:
GPU folding is not currently supported in OSX

either this page is outdated or idk

[dusky seal]

@smoky rose my one server i have folding right now (not trying to melt and outlet) puts out 16k and my desktop puts out ~300-400k but since i have to work on it too i cant have it running the whole time

[marble quartz]

I tried to boot hackintosh and yep it didn't detect gpu

i have a vega 56

[dusky seal]

i leave it cpu folding most of the day since i have windows setup to only allow it to have what i dont need, but gpu is a pain and causes some oofs

so i just do gpu over night

my poor rx580... im waiting on it to crap out on me so i have an excuse to buy a new one XD

[smoky rose]

I hope this pandemic is inventive enough for Apple, Sony etc too either get or keep support for fah on various devices.

[marble quartz]

rx 580 is still a fairly decent card

you can definitely game on it

[dusky seal]

oh it does wonders for me, hence why i wont replace it till it dies

i have no reason to

heck, i can run gw2 and bdo at the same time XD

[smoky rose]

I had a 7970 go up in flames back when it was cool. I had turned all heat checks off, ran it full tilt for days and the cooler died.

[dusky seal]

and if i leave it running all day it can get about 400k ppd

[marble quartz]

that's on you bud

[smoky rose]

Yepp

[dusky seal]

that poor 7970

[fast rampart]

Here are my stats for Folding@Home!

[dusky seal]

nice!

im still working on that 1m mark

[marble quartz]

I can't afford a new card rn so I'm making the most out of this vega

[dusky seal]

vega56 is a pretty decent card

[marble quartz]

it still beats a 1070

[smoky rose]

I had more waiting to be used. But I stopped macgyvering cooling solutions.

[dusky seal]

whips my 580

kinda sucks... i bought my 580 back before 5000 series so it was still kinda pricey since i got the nitro+ se

will say the nitro+ se is a beast of 580 though

i can clock it up to 1500mhz and its only a bit unstable but can fold fine

most games i can run but mmo's tend to turn into artifact central

[smoky rose]

I stick to playing factor at the moment. Heavily single core cpu bound.

[dusky seal]

i have a 2700x so the cpu bound games arnt to bad

[simple swan]

my pc is a very hot boi rn cpu at 95c gonna just run it for 1 WU and let it just go to sleep mode on its own

[dusky seal]

and most mmo's are bottle necked at the cpu

[smoky rose]

But it's a laptop so it shares cooling with the gpu and now that my factory is quite large it is becoming a problem.

[marble quartz]

bruh folding on laptop is gonna be your laptop's demise

get fans on there

[dusky seal]

i should get my tuffbook folding

[smoky rose]

I have. Steady 80c max now.

No worse than playing witcher 3 on it.

[marble quartz]

I used these and they work dramatically https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkdkjrVkqDM

[dusky seal]

my tuff book has the hex core and the gtx1060 6gb

[marble quartz]

like mini blowiematron

it's loud tho

[smoky rose]

That's what I use. But I need more than one and/or mod the laptop some. Too many heat vents on it.

[marble quartz]

my laptop only had one so it worked perfectly

well with many heat vents this shouldn't have been your go to solution

but yea mileage varies

I drop like 10C average on max

[smoky rose]

I need to make some kind of sleeve for it.

I have some material in a closet but meh

[dusky seal]

ehh, just pop out a few screws and let the beast breath 😛

[smoky rose]

I still need to move the air.

[dusky seal]

i used to compile on a thinkpad that i just took the screws out of and would pop it open when doing compiles XD

dropped it by about 5c and made the throttle less

[smoky rose]

That is going to be a problem as ambient temperature rise for each day.

[dusky seal]

my room is usually about 25c XD

the servers in the closet dont help at all

[smoky rose]

I've been keeping the balcony door open some. Helps during the night but days are getting bad.

No other heat sources running.

Do you have any ventilation for the closet or do you use it as a sauna?

[dusky seal]

its vented

and has a fan blowing through the slats, but it still turns into a sauna XD

along with the rest of my room

and i have the window open and ac running XD

my electric bill is gonna be in shambles

[marble quartz]

close the window lol

[mystic hollow]

my 1060 6GB limited to 60W is working nicely

[marble quartz]

how long has that been going

[marble quartz]

what's the PPD

[mystic hollow]

typically between 250-350k, as you can see, but that is down to how often i get WU's

it could probably do much more if it got jobs constantly

[marble quartz]

seems about right

[dusky seal]

@marble quartz it gets hotter in the room if i close the window lol

thats why its open

[smoky rose]

Spank your AC and tell it to do a better job.

[dusky seal]

lol

time to get out the paddle

maybe it'll get it excited and work harder XD

[solid anchor]

I just use my folding box to warm up my basement office

[smoky rose]

I'd go for an oar. Just to make sure.

[dusky seal]

RIP oar

[slate lake]

Just stick your laptop in the fridge

[dusky seal]

the dell r710 wont fit in the fridge XD

[solid anchor]

That is a good little server 🙂 bumping the memory in mine this week hopefully 🙂

[dusky seal]

i have 4 of them, mine are rocking 96gb of ram each

the little old server that could

[solid anchor]

Nice

[dusky seal]

[solid anchor]

Bumping mine to 144GB

[dusky seal]

i dont have a need for that much since i spread everything across all the servers

[solid anchor]

Got that one and a R610 in a ESX cluster atm

[dusky seal]

i have the 4 of mine clustered with proxmox

[solid anchor]

Nice

I may have gone with proxmox if it had been usable 15 years ago. I learned esxi and pretty much didn't bother with other systems after

[slate lake]

any of ya'll doing 3d printing for ventilators or masks or anything?

[dusky seal]

i probs should but i need to order more petg

all i have right now is pla

[slate lake]

I thought about getting a 3d printer and donating valves or something but IDK

I live next to a microcenter so

[solid anchor]

My wife works at one of the big hospitals where we live. I have my hands full taking care of the two kids and trying to keep her sane. She xray'd a newborn that died of respiratory failure yesterday.

[slate lake]

😐

[solid anchor]

Yeah, sorry. 😦

[slate lake]

This shit be fucked yo

There have been a few cases in my state (ohio) where children as well as infants have died

[solid anchor]

But yes, anything you can find that helps is appreciated by those at hospitals, that is for sure

[slate lake]

i'll give someone the rest of a bed sheet i cut up to make a mask lol

[odd barn]

did someone say something about fitting a server in a fridge

[smoky rose]

Sounds like a really bad idea.

[odd barn]

only one way to let them learn

[smoky rose]

Expensive lesson.

I'm all for teaching people to fish instead of just giving them fish. But this is a case of "Come on over here help yourself."

[slate lake]

lol i said stick their laptop in the fridge

[smoky rose]

Same thing different name.

[odd barn]

Lol, I agree

[slate lake]

i was being sarcastic

[odd barn]

I know it was sarcasm, my reaction was too lmao

[slate lake]

😛

[odd barn]

I work at a building with several different hubs for different floors, each hub has an AC unit mounted on the wall because the building itself doesn't actually have HVAC that could have been ran during pre-construction

It's kind of silly to me

[slate lake]

my old grocery store has a server room with an ac in the wall.. was leaking until we put a bucket under it ;c

[odd barn]

oof

[smoky rose]

And I'm neuroatypical so sarcasm often fly way above my head.

[odd barn]

I think the AC units were part of cost savings regarding HVAC hardware i.e. thermostat / dampers / ducts would have been more costly

[slate lake]

well it is an old building. so the room was never designed to be a server room

[hushed bobcat]

@brittle coral we have success!

[slate lake]

was actually a small "store"

[odd barn]

ahh

[slate lake]

store within a store like wally world

[odd barn]

I know the feel

[slate lake]

you accessed it via the janitor "closet"

[odd barn]

The building im referring to however, was constructed in like... 2018? They're still building it because they've had strikes, and now with COVID, they had to stop

[slate lake]

😛

[odd barn]

Thankfully my part of the job was done for the most part

we still have a LOT to do, but we did what we could given the stuff that was happening

[slate lake]

fantasizing about having a job

i'd work at a hospital if I could

[odd barn]

I used to work at a hospital, not as a nurse, but I was responsible for the entire buildings security

[slate lake]

so, my last job, I walked around 2 hospitals, took measurements and photos of rooms etc, no one questioned me at all :/

I worked at an MEP firm

[odd barn]

ooh

[slate lake]

I had a clipboard

I asked one patient in one room and was like "Can I take a photo of your toilet" there like "Come on in!"

[odd barn]

I now work for a company responsible for installing security hardware. I enjoy my job, especially the networking aspect of it

[slate lake]

😐

[odd barn]

LOL

I would have been like "do u want me to take a crap now or after"

[slate lake]

lol

thing it, it was just one of those wheelie ones not an actual crapper

[odd barn]

ooh.

[slate lake]

i was shocked cause most had them

old ass building.. like over 60 +

[odd barn]

yeah, doesn't surprise me

[slate lake]

rural ohio

like in one area of ohio.. there is 1 hospital for about 30miles ;c

[odd barn]

I live in a city of 600,000 people (probably 100,000 more than that because of immigration) and there's only 1 hospital with 630 beds

[slate lake]

damn

[odd barn]

Yeah, They tore down the old hospital because refurbing it wouldn't work since everything was below fire code

[slate lake]

ohio has a lot of city hospitals. rural we have corn

yeah fire codes kill buildings

[odd barn]

I actually did a hospital in a rural area, about 200 beds, but that was because again, their old hospital was being decommissioned due to several issues

A lot of my friends have mentioned that with corona, the hospitals have been rather empty unless people are going to get screened and whatnot

before, it used to be very flooded by people that should have gone to a walk in clinic

[slate lake]

yeah a lot of people get sick and have no doctor so they goto the ER

all i say to people is get a freaking flu shot

[odd barn]

I live in Canada, where I live there are plenty of doctors in a 2 mile radius and our healthcare is accounted for.

People who immigrate here and just go straight to the hospital have to spend $1,000 just to triage, and then who knows how much just to register and see a doctor

[slate lake]

oh I see, yeah if they don't know the system. In the US you goto the ER and spend a small fortune to get a Tylenol

[odd barn]

Yeah, instead of going to the pharmacy and them telling you the same thing

[slate lake]

we have SOOO many out patient facilities

I live in a small area with at least 8 clinics and a bunch of specialty surgery centers etc

[odd barn]

Right

I was thinking more about the whole, when / if a vaccine comes out for corona, how is it going to be shared among healthcare facilities / doctors offices / etc

[slate lake]

It is $89 for an evaluation here

oh ugh that is gonna be a mess

[odd barn]

I'd prioritize the elderly / immunocompromised / children, and then move on to the general population

also, healthcare workers should be up there too

[slate lake]

yeah

but then people will freak out cause they want it so they can goto work etc

[odd barn]

patience is a virtue, which a lot of people lack

[slate lake]

some wont want it cause "vaccines make you sick"

[odd barn]

And that's fine

[smoky rose]

As long as they don't drag minors down with them.

[odd barn]

I know this will certainly come up with children going to school, so we'll have to see where that goes

no comment on that though

[slate lake]

damn near impossible to apply to a medical center job.. the website is slow

[smoky rose]

Nice, new GPU WU ready before the current is finished.

[slate lake]

mine have been "downloading" for a while now ;c

[smoky rose]

Ohh, SARS antibody research.

Looks like we are making progress.

I can't wait for that damn vaccine.

[slate lake]

oh that would be neat

lol i have 13,024 points

[marble quartz]

vaccine is a long way to go

procuring one is part of the solution

mass producing and logistics is the bigger challenge

also testing

[smoky rose]

I get pneumonia very easily. I am not a fan of SARS at allt.

Asthma and all that.

[slate lake]

yar i has the asthma it doesn't effect me that much... except recently when the weather changed but since the pollution went down. not so bad

[odd barn]

Given that we're in the infancy of testing antibodies to react to sars/cov, I have to hope that we're going to be able to do this soon enough

[lucid plinth]

guys i hit 500 WUs
https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=839753

[mild kiln]

lol

We 1st place

[remote vine]

isn't that.. kinda rediculous?

i wouldn't be suprised if this is our like fastest cure made yet, with how crazy people are about finding a cure

atleast via folding

[onyx canopy]

no wu available :|

[slate lake]

no wu 4 u!

boo hoo

:

[timber fossil]

that didn't take long

[hushed bobcat]

@silver wing Ever seen this one?
I've had to delete 3 WU on this rig because of this error

Oddly enough if I set threads to 29 (and it reduces thread count to 28 to avoid domain decomposition) it works fine

[silver wing]

Yes that is just a bad WU that can't handle more threads than what ever it was made for

[timber fossil]

wow that is terrible

[silver wing]

Those probably 'should' be reported but I never do, I just work around it

[hushed bobcat]

why does it stop when i set the thread count higher?

always seems to happen at 28 threads

but not at 29 or 30

and its happened 3 times at 28

[silver wing]

dunno, probably some logic fail in the WU

thing about a lot of researchers is they are not always seasoned experts in computation and programming

@rich depot I see that team jumping argument is still going on a year later

[rich depot]

Yep

[silver wing]

Not that I agree with it but damn get over it