#folding-and-boinc | Linus Tech Tips | Page 69

dense blaze Apr 14, 2020, 2:35 AM

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edit: its fine now, just weird way to work up

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 2:48 AM

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@odd barn i did go to bed lol

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woke up at like 16:30

odd barn Apr 14, 2020, 2:49 AM

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yikes

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 2:51 AM

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thats pretty common for me lol

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also those spikes @onyx canopy was getting

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i have them too

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seems normal to me

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i haven't timed them but i have my save interval set to 3 minutes

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they seem to happen fairly consistently though throughout work units and on all GPUs

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 2:52 AM

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Yep

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@odd barn I powered off my computer I'll check later

odd barn Apr 14, 2020, 2:52 AM

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aight

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 2:53 AM

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bloom what's your hardware that you're only getting 7k for a WU?

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did you sign up for an account to get quick return bonus?

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or is it just really old/slow

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 3:52 AM

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someone tell them to feed my rx580 a WU. my room is gonna get cold xD

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im gaming now on the 5700xt for a bit but it's getting cool out and i'm to lazy to get up and reach behind the case to turn off the box fan that blows through it xD

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or rather, through the window at the back of it

silver wing Apr 14, 2020, 5:22 AM

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@odd barn https://www.anandtech.com/show/13500/samsung-shows-off-256-gb-ddr4-rdimm-coming-to-servers-soon

Samsung Shows Off 256 GB DDR4 RDIMM: Coming to Servers Soon

snow fractal Apr 14, 2020, 5:32 AM

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o_0

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wow

verbal kraken Apr 14, 2020, 6:09 AM

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anyone know if this would help boost F@H
http://squirrelsresearch.com/acorn-cle-101/

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it's a fpga that connects via nvme that takes processing load off of the gpu

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nvme uses x4 pcie lanes

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and you can add multiples if you have additional nvme slots

keen hill Apr 14, 2020, 6:21 AM

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didnt noticed that in gaming while folding

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welp fotgot to pause it

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but frames are still good

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oof strooke

verbal kraken Apr 14, 2020, 6:28 AM

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wish someone could test this out and see if it helps folding

keen hill Apr 14, 2020, 6:33 AM

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no viseo about that hardware?

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video*

verbal kraken Apr 14, 2020, 6:47 AM

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nope not really no one has tested it with folding

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its a fpga that was used for crypto mining it basically takes processing load off the gpu

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but im sure it can be done as well for folding

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it boosts gpu performance

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 6:52 AM

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it also says it doesn't work in combination with a high end gpu

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 6:54 AM

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yea the idea i think was to use lower end GPUs in a small mining rig and offload some intensive things to this, it's probably just doing a bunch of FP calculations or something, but a high end GPU will be faster is my guess

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the real question is, can it run in tandem with a GPU to power a single slot, or does it require it's own input if it were mapped to F@H?

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depends on the code i'd guess more than anything

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sounds like you have to program for it

verbal kraken Apr 14, 2020, 7:08 AM

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i tried to get a bitstream from hashaltcoin but they said it wouldnt be worth it

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=/

keen hill Apr 14, 2020, 7:21 AM

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unfair player knocked me out from my checkpoint

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at fh4

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w8

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lol wrong channel

verbal kraken Apr 14, 2020, 7:42 AM

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Mmm

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this is HUGE

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if this happens 💥 💥💥

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ahh Luke is now online 😄

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 8:39 AM

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can I purge the work queue?

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 8:47 AM

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its against the TOS running F@H to delete work that's already been sent with the pure intent of just deleting it

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so if you have work already downloaded, you gotta just pause it lol

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 8:54 AM

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I cant get it to download is the problem

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its on its 16th attempt at finding a WU

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@brittle coral

silver wing Apr 14, 2020, 8:55 AM

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Pause and resume resets the WU download timer

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and you can do it on a per slot basis

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 8:57 AM

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I wonder if the well is dry

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 9:11 AM

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ooh got it

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and yea the well has been having supply line issues as it were xD

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not enough clouds = no rain baby

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sorry that was a really foggy pun

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i'll show myself out

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:35 AM

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I've had to delete 2 WU in 3 days

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I keep getting ones that cause my PC to hard lock

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 9:35 AM

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ahhh yea

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that sucks

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:36 AM

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I got rid of the advanced flag and updated my gfx drivers

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 9:36 AM

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ive had to delete a few for various reasons but not nearly as many as when i was dealing with those nvidia driver issues that caused all non primary GPUs to spit WUs right back to the server as bad lol

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good idea, the advanced flag is only for people who can monitor the rig, or those who don't have stability issues running them so they can see what configs worked well

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if you try with the new drivers it may also be more stable

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:37 AM

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I went from 441 to 445

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 9:37 AM

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the only one I intentionally deleted ever was one that was 15 days completion time, when i knew i was reinstalling windows the next day anyway so i reinstalled F@H that night so i could at least contribute some completed WUs

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idk if the 20 day expiry window is even up on that WU yet lmao

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:37 AM

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It was perfectly fine during the folding event

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 9:37 AM

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word

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yea 445 is what fixed my issues as well

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and AMD i haven't had any issues with the last 3 months worth of drivers

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since they update more often

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:38 AM

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I still can't get the Kubuntu F@H client to use a GPU

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 9:39 AM

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@storm talon is probably asleep now but is the one to ask

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:39 AM

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I already did

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 9:39 AM

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for sure

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:39 AM

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He only does CPU folding

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 9:39 AM

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thats right

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i am very tired i saw that earlier, sry for @ing you larry lol

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is it the same in ubuntu?

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or debian or some other distro?

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:40 AM

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Kubuntu is Ubuntu with a different skin

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 9:40 AM

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idk these things so well xD

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but for sure good to know

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i installed it on a rig with bad hardware and never got very far setting it up so idk m8

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im thinking on my next rig I may dual partition the SSD and fill it up with OS (using a 120gb 840 evo lol) and see how it runs, but it's also the newest rig and i may just want to stick windows on it again anyway

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:41 AM

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It could be the card is too old

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 9:41 AM

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what card is it

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:41 AM

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GT430

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 9:41 AM

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yea probably

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:42 AM

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The latest driver is 390 lol

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 9:42 AM

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i know they don't support anything older than the 7970 generation on AMD side

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i'd assume nvidia isn't QUITE the same as long as that old of a card supports the most recent version of CUDA, but idk how the CUDA client works or if it's even used still since I'm pretty sure everything i've run so far was openCL even on the nvidia cards

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:43 AM

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I don't think it has Cuda

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 9:43 AM

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and older cards may not support 1.2 CL

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oof

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yea

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if it doesn't support OpenCL 1.2 or any version of CUDA thats probably why

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:45 AM

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According to Wikipedia it supports 1.2

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But

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Doesn't have double precision floating point

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I think anything older than Kepler is a no go

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I can pull a GT 730 out of one of my windows folding rigs

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:07 AM

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yea it'd be worth it to test at least

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 10:07 AM

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its going to take 23.5 hours to finish its current WU...

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lol

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:07 AM

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is it even worth it xD

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what cpu are you running

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 10:08 AM

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i ment for the GT730 to finish its current WU

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:08 AM

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oh christ xD thats still pretty slow

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 10:09 AM

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wow this is a 46 hour WU

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the GT730 can do about 8k PPD

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and this is a 15396 base credit WU

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:18 AM

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what WU

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 10:19 AM

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11741

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:20 AM

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lol word

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i dont have any of those rn

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ac tually of my GPUs

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only one is running =/.

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=/

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hah that isnt a real emote here

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=\

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xD

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okay

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uh lets see

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im at 71% on this WU on my GTX1070

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1hr 26m left

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it's worth 28800 base, getting estimated 151000 after QRB

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lol my p106-100 is at 17c idle

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980ti is idling at 19c

silver wing Apr 14, 2020, 10:23 AM

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take the pc inside or take the outside out of the room lol

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:23 AM

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its in the garage

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im monitoring it with VNC

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xD

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there's a 1200cfm blower aimed at it and a 250cfm 120mm fan also rigged into the case between the hard drive cage and it to direct airflow further

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the blower is basically aimed right down the airflow channels on the fins of the 980ti and the miner dgaf its soaking it all up for days

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that miner folds at like 45c load

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oh sick the 980ti got a wu

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such oxytocin receptor wow

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both 1070 and 980ti on 13878

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 10:54 AM

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@brittle coral 2070 ... I signed up like everyone I think

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Do you even sleep? Haha

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 11:01 AM

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yes

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during the day

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xD

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:14 AM

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I really need to figure out why I only get 7k- 12k / wu

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 11:17 AM

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I just had two GPU WU of 120k+, only just noticed it whilst waiting for a CPU WU.
Really hit and miss with the WUs though.

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waiting for the credit to drop on these 2. lol

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onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:26 AM

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@golden fulcrum

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How much time for the gpu wus?

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Per gpu

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 11:27 AM

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generally only 1.5 - 2hrs roughly.

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:27 AM

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Only 1080tis?

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 11:28 AM

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yeah, just testing at the moment. showing 4.2mil PPD and still have 1 GPU idle.

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:28 AM

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I should still be able to get 60k+ for a Wu with my 2070 :/

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I know the 1080tis are faster

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But 7k is too low haha

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 11:29 AM

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yeah, like 80 - 100k at least I'd have thought.

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:29 AM

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You have a really decent system tho

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The best of 10 series eventho 4 way sli isn't the best

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It's still the highest raw power you can get

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 11:32 AM

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PPD dropped to 3.7mil. still 1 GPU idle.

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running all on an ASUS X99 WS.

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was hoping to experiment and throw another 2x 1080Ti's in there, but I need to find my dual PSU cable and run them that way.

Board supports 7x GPUs at 16x/8x/8x/8x/8x/8x/8x bandwidth. Awesome board, much like the X299 SAGE I have here too. Tonnes of bandwidth

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woohoo. got 4th GPU WU. lol. just crunching these for a stability test then it's bedtime.

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Pulling a little over 1000w from the wall at 90% power level.

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onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:43 AM

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You could sell some cloud computing services :P

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Making separated vms for each gpu

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 11:47 AM

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I'm already in the Vast.ai discord. lol. just talking about the setup there now.

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 11:52 AM

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this is the highest i've read out so far between both clients lol. stoked to get a 3rd up i might be able to hit that 3.7 you're getting xD

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the one on top could be higher but i never end up with those maximum output WUs on every slot at once usually

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 11:54 AM

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that's pretty good though, every bit helps.

I'm tempted to turn on the X299 and the other 2x 1080Ti's there, but I get abused for chewing up tonnes of electricity for too long (no discounts for fighting Coronavirus with electricity around $0.16 USD per kWh unfortunately).

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 12:00 PM

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yea and i have a 3rd rig coming

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i have an idle 290x for sure

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and a p106-100 to test

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there's another rx570 local but i might try risers on that board and build a frame around it and order a bunch of used p106-100 if they fold well in a 1x lane

odd barn Apr 14, 2020, 12:06 PM

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@silver wing That is definitely intriguing to me, I'm always fascinated in seeing how manufacturers put more onto less

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 12:07 PM

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my FAHClient seems to have some issues lol

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was literally running at 100% on CPU and 0% GPu despite CPU being removed from the slot list

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 12:09 PM

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weird. Did you save changes and restart the client?

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 12:09 PM

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no I removed all the slots and added GPU again

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@odd barn @brittle coral this is why I only had base credit :P

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 12:11 PM

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buggar.. get that passkey happening. I got mine again really quick this time (last time I tried it didn't even email out)

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 12:11 PM

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this is my 10th wu

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once it's done

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I'll have higher credits / wu

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 12:14 PM

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I haven't hit 10 wu yet, just trying to work out how many I've tested on this evening.

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 12:19 PM

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@onyx canopy what CPU and what GPU(s)

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nvidia GPUs use a whole core to themselves to run it seems (or at least a whole thread)

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 12:20 PM

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no it was 100% on all cores

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but I fixed it

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 12:20 PM

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good shit

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 12:20 PM

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was a FAH bug

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 12:20 PM

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lol yea

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sounds like xD

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but yea this is my nvidia rig

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sec starting VNC

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 12:20 PM

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have you seen my screenshot ?

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apparently I should get full credit after this wu

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 12:21 PM

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i dont see a screenshot

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only revrnd was posting screens

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hi jo 🙂

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 12:21 PM

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Nvidia GPUs eat a thread each.

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 12:21 PM

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just before I @ you

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 12:21 PM

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onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 12:21 PM

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was 8 threads at 100% for a single gpu LUL

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 12:22 PM

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thats my nvidia rig lol

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idk why OCCt is using so much CPU rn xD it usually uses less

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 12:22 PM

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1060 1070 980ti ?

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 12:22 PM

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980ti but yea

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the p106-100 is a 1060 6gb

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 12:22 PM

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why do you own these

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 12:23 PM

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i bought the 1070 and was loaned a pair of p106, friend owns a 980ti so its on loan too

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 12:23 PM

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If cpu slot is set to use -1 threads FAH should reserve on thread per Nvidia GPU.

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 12:23 PM

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to be clear, same guy sold me the 1070 and the loan on the 2 1060

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just to run F@H so he didnt have to set up a rig himself

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 12:23 PM

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cpu slot is disabled tho

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 12:23 PM

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yea that CPU doesnt have time for it

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less than 6kppd after the 3 GPUs

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it can do 34kppd on its own

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 12:23 PM

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not much

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 12:24 PM

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its not bad when its feeding AMD GPUs only

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lol

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i3 8350k

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so 4c4t 4ghz

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 12:24 PM

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isnt vega 64 rly good for folding ?

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 12:24 PM

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@smoky rose any idea if that is whenever the program is running (ie, including GPU idle), or whenever the GPU is folding?

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 12:24 PM

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one of my friends is getting pretty decent performance on his vega64 yea

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let me ask him again

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 12:25 PM

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raw Tflops is the best

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 12:25 PM

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he may be afk/asleep but i asked

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 12:26 PM

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I haven't tried running cpu slot only.

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 12:26 PM

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weird, my old 5930K is still at estimated 26k PPD (CPU only)

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and that's running all 4 GPUs too

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 12:27 PM

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bloom is it all double that matters?

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if so my 5700xt should be a lot higher than it is lol

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 12:28 PM

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The cpu threads are used to feed the gpus work. It doesn't get there automagically.

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 12:29 PM

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lol, yeah, I know that.. just surprised my dinosaur is pulling 26k PPD whilst feeding 4x nvidia GPUs when @brittle coral mentioned down to 6k PPD.

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 12:30 PM

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its a 6/12

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that sounds about right if you're feeding 4 GPUs and have 2 cores left over plus whatever time you can get out of the other threads on each core

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even at only 3.6ghz vs 4ghz on mine those 2 cores and 8 threads extra makes a huge difference

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 12:31 PM

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but aren't you running an 8350K?

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 12:31 PM

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yea

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4c 4t 4ghz

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no boost

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no ht

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 12:32 PM

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I was thinking AVX had something do to with it as your clock speed would be smashing mine, 2 extra cores or not.

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https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?productIds=126689,82931
Might be the extra memory channels though..

Intel product specifications

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mine is pegged at 3.5GHz.. might be the low profile HSF is holding the CPU back from boosting. lol. Ooops. I had 3.9GHz on my old 4930K on air (Noctua D14-2011) but need to revisit the bios settings for the 5930K and 9900X to see what I've done.

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 12:58 PM

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Nooooo... my rig just died... had 30min to go.
PSU not lighting up the mobo (it's an EVGA 1600 P2).

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 12:58 PM

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NOOOOO

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FFFFFFFFFFFF

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i was about to say

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i ordered a water block for my 3800x to get the turbo to run higher

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its only boosting to 4.1

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mid 80s temps

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stock cooler

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did you see the pic of the thiccboi rad i have a pair of from when i had one per 290x along with an MCR320 and a dangerden 2x120 radiator as well?

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the cpu was on the loop too but it didn't really get cooled much by it lol

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temps were good but hotter than i wanted

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some days i legit felt like it was heating the cpu with the GPUs because at idle it would have load temps

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and load temps were only a few degrees hotter than idle

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lol

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 1:01 PM

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tried unplugging the PSU, no deal.
tried turning it off and on (at the back), no deal.
tried a different power point, no deal.

Not getting any mobo lights whatsoever. Might have to swap the P2 with the T2 to see if it works...

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 1:01 PM

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yea test that

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that will determine instantly if it's mobo or PSU if you know the other PSU is good

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before you do tho

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got any wire?

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 1:01 PM

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Think the PSU has just up and died though

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 1:01 PM

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or a paperclip

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boost the PSU without it plugged into anything else, pin 4 (green wire) to any ground

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some bad PSUs will spin up and then the second they have load put on them they will fail to POST internally and shut off but it'll help determine point of failure at least if the other PSU also spins up, could also be it died and took stuff with it tho who knows

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 1:03 PM

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Just got told off by missus. lol. looks like the PSU is a tomorrow job now 😦

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there goes that stress test.

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 1:03 PM

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oof

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GL man

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 1:05 PM

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thanks. Busy day tomorrow so won't be for another 18hrs till I can get to it.
Looks like it'll be an RMA job.

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that sucks... probably gonna lose all those points too. buggar.

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anyway. catch you guys later. Happy folding.

mild kiln Apr 14, 2020, 1:22 PM

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yesterday just added my NH-D14

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can't fold at turbo else it thermal throttles with 1 fan but works very cool like the 120mm rad at base speed folding

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dangit Evo X kit for being too tall

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 1:29 PM

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we are getting beat by folding evga

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yikes

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 1:30 PM

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Overtake projection says 4 weeks.

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How are they beating us?

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 1:34 PM

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the gap widens. but thats because we all do less points than a few days ago

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I really hope some people at the folding team can get this sorted and back up to bigger assignment numbers

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 1:37 PM

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A few days to get things back on track after easter should do it.

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 1:37 PM

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oh man, my new water loop is going to look amazing

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i looking at automotive parts for hose clamps

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 1:37 PM

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Or did we lose that many after the folding event ended?

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 1:38 PM

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i found red anodized strain relief clamps size AN-10 (5/8" OD) for my primochill red 5/8" OD tubing 😄

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gonna get that cpu going so fast

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the red should add like 100mhz right?

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 1:39 PM

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At least 100mhz.

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OD, olive drab?

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 1:41 PM

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@smoky rose nah the assign rate is down and people still complain about not getting wu's. LTT has prob gone down after the event but still enough

queen aurora Apr 14, 2020, 1:46 PM

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@smoky rose Outer Diameter

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@brittle coral add some flame stickers... they make everything run faster its a scientific fact!

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 1:49 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRF-pgMWpwQ

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Just look at these guys.

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Flames makes everything better.

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As long as the rig it self is not on fire that is.

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 2:12 PM

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https://twitter.com/drGregBowman/status/1250041600786542593?s=19

Greg Bowman (@drGregBowman)

More GPU work units are coming for @foldingathome. We've had to shift some of our effort from setting up projects to moving data off servers to make room for more data. Its amazing how quickly the data is coming in! Something like 6TB/hr.

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 2:19 PM

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i decided to go digging

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im gonna just use my old parts

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i found ap ile of like $300 worth of fittings i forgot i had

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and 2 tubes of shin-etsu TIM

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and some other things

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Don't forget the flames.

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fah1.eastus.cloudapp.azure.com is sitting there with 102' A7 jobs. ...and no disk space.

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 2:30 PM

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yeah, for at least a couple of days

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 2:37 PM

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oof

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whyyyy

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people gotta maintain those servers better xD

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 2:39 PM

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I think the bottleneck in this case is FAHs storage.

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We've had to shift some of our effort from setting up projects to moving data off servers to make room for more data.

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Their internal storage.

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 2:45 PM

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come on LTT, petabyte server

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 2:51 PM

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https://twitter.com/Jo_____L/status/1250067332967391235

Jo L (@Jo_____L)

@drGregBowman @foldingathome Hey @LinusTech. It looks like FAH have a need. A need for, not necessarily speed but, a bunch of Storinators. I propose this:
Industry leaders provide the hardware.
You build 'em.
@drGregBowman run 'em.
The rest of us fold 'em.

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 3:01 PM

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guys what say you

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should I install BOINC and start running rosetta as well for when the F@H client isnt getting work?

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been a long time lol

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this is the main issue tho

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https://twitter.com/drGregBowman/status/1250041600786542593?s=19

Greg Bowman (@drGregBowman)

More GPU work units are coming for @foldingathome. We've had to shift some of our effort from setting up projects to moving data off servers to make room for more data. Its amazing how quickly the data is coming in! Something like 6TB/hr.

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they are getting 6tb an hour of data xD

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bah wrong link

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that was supposed to go to another discord

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 3:06 PM

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"a bunch of storinators"
I didn't specify how many. 🙂

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 3:06 PM

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hahaha

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yea i saw that

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with 6tb an hour of data that's no surprise they ran into issues

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i wanna know something

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why does russia suck at contributing to this despite having so many gamers

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https://twitter.com/sukritsingh92/status/1249832235034763264/photo/1

Sukrit Singh (@sukritsingh92)

So I got curious about where in the world some of my @foldingathome projects have gone, so I made a map! Every blue dot in this map represents a unique device that has contributed to ONE project just in April alone! Incredible!

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i get china cause of the great firewall

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russia you slacking

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 3:15 PM

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facepalm
People seriously believe 5G is spreading SARS-CoV-2.
They are carrying out sabotage operations against the infrastructure.

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 3:15 PM

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yup

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 3:15 PM

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I'm going to spend the next hours reporting every single post in a couple of Swedish groups to get Facebook to flag them as false.

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 3:16 PM

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i saw a video on an anarchist site i frequent because they're local and my friends are on there sometimes doing activist stuff, and someone posted a video of some jarhead from another group tossing a molotov on one Y_Y

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they were putting the dude on blast, to be clear

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the anarchist community has been really helpful in san francisco's china town though protecting people and businesses, as well as a group of veterans that's been organizing there

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there's some crossover in both groups lol

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i wonder what cool stuff they're learning from all the work we've done that's gonna help them speed things along

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Facebook should simply do a "DELETE FROM posts WHERE '5g' IN text"

queen aurora Apr 14, 2020, 3:20 PM

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why it generates clicks, clicks generates ad impressions, ad impressions pay their server bills ...

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 3:21 PM

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even with the server issues it seems like im still averaging 2.4-2.6k per day right now lol

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based on stat sites

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i wish my birthday were closer, facebook always asks if i want to donate my birthday to a cause and this year imma send it to the F@H team me thinks xD

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man they really need to optimize some of these units better

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the 14549 unit runs so slow on my AMD gear xD

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and im looking in metrics and im seeing 50-71% gpu utilization

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 3:23 PM

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@queen aurora The users of tinfoil are already abandoning the platform. They cant stand the "censorship". 🙂

brittle coral Apr 14, 2020, 3:24 PM

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600kppd on the 5700xt

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when ive seen it peak out at 930k =/

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ive had my turbo clocks wide open all night because the card is running super super cool cause of it xD

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65c core 92c junction peak xD

queen aurora Apr 14, 2020, 3:26 PM

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@smoky rose yeah but they wont stop existing so they just shift from platform to platform 😛

solid thunder Apr 14, 2020, 3:26 PM

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anarchist community
something about those two words together doesn't seem right

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 3:27 PM

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@queen aurora True. But as long as I don't have to see them I'm happy.

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I talked to one of them a while ago. He claimed that "any and all wireless traffic on 10+ GHz band is lethal even in the smallest of doses". That is kind of funny as the globe is well covered by thousand of satellites providing satellite tv on the Ku band.

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 4:03 PM

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What was the Wi-Fi Linus tested that could be stopped by the cardboard box the router came in? 50GHz right?

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Pretty sure everyone that did the testing is still alive

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Unless... Linus is a zombie....
That would explain all the dropping

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Combining cherry picked facts do not pass peer revie...oh, never mind. They don't care about that sort of thing.

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 4:25 PM

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@hushed bobcat it would explain a lot #lienus

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 4:31 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad_TEiByZUQ&feature=youtu.be

YouTube

FoldingAtHome

Folding@home Developer Fireside Chat (done April 9th, 2019)

On April 9th, we hosted a Fireside chat with some members of the Folding@home team, including lead developer Joseph Coffland (actual chat start at 6:30), F@h head of communications Anton Thynell, and F@h team member Sukrit Singh.

We discussed the architecture of Folding@ho...

▶ Play video

verbal kraken Apr 14, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Soon there will be fpga powered folding 😁

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 5:20 PM

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?

verbal kraken Apr 14, 2020, 5:27 PM

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To bad the LTT staff doesn't pay attention to their own discord

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 5:46 PM

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They do... They just also gotta work

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Who did you tag? @verbal kraken

verbal kraken Apr 14, 2020, 5:48 PM

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lol it's against the rules to tag staff

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but it would be nice to share this info over to a member of LMG staff like Luke or Linus

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Wait till Jakkuh is active here and tag him while he's talking

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What info though?

verbal kraken Apr 14, 2020, 5:49 PM

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FPGA for folding

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i cant tag them lol it will punish me on this discord lol

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 5:50 PM

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How big of a deal is fpga folding and why should the lmg staff know about this?

verbal kraken Apr 14, 2020, 5:50 PM

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lol

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very big 🙂 like game changer

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Numbers?

verbal kraken Apr 14, 2020, 5:51 PM

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its in the works but 1 fpga would take the place of over 50 high end gpus

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 5:51 PM

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What gpu?

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And when is it ready?

verbal kraken Apr 14, 2020, 5:52 PM

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im getting it together as we speak but thats info for LMG staff

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Why should they know though?

verbal kraken Apr 14, 2020, 5:53 PM

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content 🙂 and this is very valuable information

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I'm calling that they will ignore the vague bs

verbal kraken Apr 14, 2020, 5:53 PM

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@unique sigil you there?

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Rule 13 bro

verbal kraken Apr 14, 2020, 5:55 PM

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he is active 🙂

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Just make sure you are folding for teamLTT

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@verbal kraken What cores do you have support for?

verbal kraken Apr 14, 2020, 6:18 PM

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i already talked to Jake about it 🙂

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plan on getting a bitstream that will work with all hashaltcoin fpga miners

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 6:19 PM

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How is that going to help with folding/boinc?

solid anchor Apr 14, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Bitstream -> fpga executable binary

verbal kraken Apr 14, 2020, 6:20 PM

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if the works was available a single fpga would produce about as much work as 30 high end gaming rigs

storm talon Apr 14, 2020, 6:20 PM

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which miners? I've got a bunch of antminers sitting around doing nothing

verbal kraken Apr 14, 2020, 6:20 PM

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antminers are asic not fpga

storm talon Apr 14, 2020, 6:20 PM

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yea

verbal kraken Apr 14, 2020, 6:20 PM

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this would be like F1+ F1 Mini etc

solid anchor Apr 14, 2020, 6:20 PM

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And it depends on the fpga as well

verbal kraken Apr 14, 2020, 6:21 PM

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but as Jake said it wouldnt help to much right now as the work just isn't there

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 6:21 PM

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if the works was available a single fpga would produce about as much work as 30 high end gaming rigs
@verbal kraken
It was 50 gpu's not that long ago. like 30 mins

verbal kraken Apr 14, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Stanford needs to pick up there game to handing out work

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@rich depot if you knew about how fpgas worked you would understand

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 6:23 PM

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I know. I just think you are way to vague and change details way to fast to be credible

solid anchor Apr 14, 2020, 6:24 PM

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@verbal kraken are you developing this fpga bitstream?

verbal kraken Apr 14, 2020, 6:24 PM

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i'm working with hashaltcoin to get one created

oblique rivet Apr 14, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Hi everyone, I am lookong to upgrade my rig for folding. I am thinking of switching to a Ryzen 9 cpu for its extra cores, so i can work while folding. What do you guys think is the best cheap am4 board. I am looking for something with good performance, power delivery (for OC) and RGB (I usually try to stay with asus ROG). What do you guys think of the rog b450-f gaming? I worry that it is too much of a budget board, as it is only 120$

solid anchor Apr 14, 2020, 6:25 PM

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@verbal kraken gotchya

oblique rivet Apr 14, 2020, 6:26 PM

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and do you guy shave any experience with the asus crosshair motherboards? I've never used them

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Thanks!

forest sapphire Apr 14, 2020, 6:49 PM

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@oblique rivet I have a 3900 and I can have it use all cores and still do basic things I need. LIke searching the internet, email, video etc.

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I am using a Asus Rog Strix X-470-F Gaming mobo

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I have used Asus mobo's for most of my computer needs.

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If you have any questions let me know. I wouldn't have any issues answering them if I can.

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 6:55 PM

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@brittle coral finally getting full credits ! I needed to complete 10 wus first :P

oblique rivet Apr 14, 2020, 6:56 PM

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@forest sapphire Thank you! Does that mobo need a bios update before using the matisse cpu?

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is there a big difference between x470 and b450?

forest sapphire Apr 14, 2020, 7:02 PM

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@oblique rivet it didn’t actually. And I am glad lol cause I didn’t think about that till after I had all the components. And I didn’t have an CPU I could use lol.

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I am not quite sure the difference between the mobos. I know I didn’t want the 570 as I didn’t need the PCI 4.0.

oblique rivet Apr 14, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Ah. is there genearlly a difference between x-series and b-series? I've always used lga115x so i don't know too much about am4

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I might actually just keep my current motherboard and go with an i9 9900k. Do you think that will work as well for folding as the 3900?

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 7:08 PM

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b = cheaper chipset than x iirc

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worse audio - ethernet - oc

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fewer pcie lanes sometimes

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Less overclocking headroom

forest sapphire Apr 14, 2020, 7:36 PM

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9900K should be find as well.

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But I do feel that AMD will be better spot if you wan to be able to multitask a bit more

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That extra 4 cores, and AMD is known to be a more well rounded CPU for all the things, compared to Intel and the single threaded advantage they have

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but even then it isn't that much

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The 3900 is great for gaming, folding, and everything in between.

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Anybody know why I am getting Next Attempt: Unknown??

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Well nothing like a pause, unpause to get the CPU to kick in

oblique rivet Apr 14, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Ah ok. I will probably go with the intel, just bc i already have an intel chipset

forest sapphire Apr 14, 2020, 7:43 PM

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understandable.

oblique rivet Apr 14, 2020, 7:43 PM

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don't really want to replace my motherboard tbh

forest sapphire Apr 14, 2020, 7:43 PM

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@oblique rivet I did Intel for a good 5-6 years. Before that I was AMD. I went to Intel cause of the gaming, but now that I don't game nearly as much and I run VM's. It was nice to have that extra core count

oblique rivet Apr 14, 2020, 7:43 PM

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ah

forest sapphire Apr 14, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Which is why I went AMD

oblique rivet Apr 14, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Thanks for all of the help!!!

forest sapphire Apr 14, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Hey anytime!

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YEah like I am running my CPU at full right now

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total CPU usage is about 90%, which gives me the 10% overhead to do other things

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like I don't notice any delay or slowness when moving and opening apps and what not

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Has codeman gone... is it safe to come out?

stark bough Apr 14, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Id look at individual core utilization imho.
For gaming imfind that i can spin off 4 cores for background folding.

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Need to verify but i think i lost 11 frames when i was discord streaming though

forest sapphire Apr 14, 2020, 7:47 PM

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I can game with no issues with it using full CPU and GPU I have found. I get about half the frames I normally would.

stark bough Apr 14, 2020, 7:48 PM

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anyone know if discord streaming is primarily cpu?

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 7:48 PM

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I'm glad F@H has started with these issues after the event... would prefer them not to have the issues at all but I understand why

forest sapphire Apr 14, 2020, 7:48 PM

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I have a 3900x and 2080TI. And I am basing my frames on BF5 at Ultra settings

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@stark bough I think it is CPU

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But I don't quite know

stark bough Apr 14, 2020, 7:49 PM

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If i had a 3900x i would hace spun ifff an entire ccx for it :p

forest sapphire Apr 14, 2020, 7:49 PM

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But I think you can change that to do GPU more

rich depot Apr 14, 2020, 7:50 PM

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They use GPU as standard but you can disable it

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That is discord streaming

forest sapphire Apr 14, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Yeah I have thought about spinning my CPU to use like only 8 for folding

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but I say USE it all at once for those big ones lol

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📎 unknown.png

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That's what it is using right now on average for using all cores to fold

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And that is at about 4.1Ghz across all cores

slate lake Apr 14, 2020, 8:06 PM

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oh my

forest sapphire Apr 14, 2020, 8:08 PM

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what?

slate lake Apr 14, 2020, 8:11 PM

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that is a lot of processing... i'm using the "light" option ;c

forest sapphire Apr 14, 2020, 8:11 PM

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oh haha. Yeah I let my CPU just crank out

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 8:29 PM

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yeah, like 80 - 100k at least I'd have thought.
@golden fulcrum 78k for 1h20

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I think I had 95k for my previous wu but it was longer

forest sapphire Apr 14, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Man my CPU is getting like back to back WU

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but my GPU is showing Next Attempt: Unknown

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I can't get it to check in

cloud flower Apr 14, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Wondering if this is normal or if someone could help me out...?

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My GPUs were folding but have stopped since yesterday as shown in this screenshot:

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📎 unknown.png

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CPU is still folding but the GPUs have been sitting like this and not folding. Tried searching for some info but didn't find too much. Is this normal, or what's happening? I'm a complete noob with f@h.

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Even after restarting the application and the PC, same thing...

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Running the latest drivers.

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Both cards running stock.

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 9:06 PM

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go to logs

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also can you select one of your gpus to see what it says about the status ?

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📎 unknown.png

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for one of your gpus

cloud flower Apr 14, 2020, 9:08 PM

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One GPU just started up now.

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and is now folding.

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 9:08 PM

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then it was downloading

cloud flower Apr 14, 2020, 9:08 PM

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How long does it download?

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 9:08 PM

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it depends on the WU, the servers

cloud flower Apr 14, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Been showing "download" for both since yesterday.

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 9:09 PM

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in the log window, you can see the %age of the download

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if it doesn't move, then there a problem between you and the server

cloud flower Apr 14, 2020, 9:12 PM

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📎 unknown.png

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 9:12 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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see

cloud flower Apr 14, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Showing a lot of "failed to get assignment" above what you see there.

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 9:13 PM

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I guess you can't control it

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btw folding at home is going to evolve

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they're hiring

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so we should see software improvement, website improvement, visualization of the protein etc

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but only in the 4 next months

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also they're getting new servers

cloud flower Apr 14, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Ah so it's likely an issue on their end?

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 9:15 PM

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yeah

cloud flower Apr 14, 2020, 9:15 PM

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They're probably getting swamped right now, lol

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:15 PM

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those messages are perfectly normal

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 9:15 PM

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also I wouldn't recommend cpu unless you have a really good one because it takes way longer to fold / you get lower points

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:16 PM

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they've been getting swamped for the last 3 weeks

cloud flower Apr 14, 2020, 9:16 PM

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It's an FX 8350

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and 2x RX 570's

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:16 PM

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bloom is correct however there are only jobs that CPU's can do

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 9:16 PM

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I don't think it's worth it for the cpu but do as you wish

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yeah

cloud flower Apr 14, 2020, 9:17 PM

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The CPU seems to be going most of the time, so I'll let it run.

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:17 PM

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so if you can afford it and its not running too hot let the CPU work away

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 9:17 PM

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some people have way better cpus to handle the tasks tho

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atleast I can't

cloud flower Apr 14, 2020, 9:17 PM

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Thanks for the help. 🙂

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 9:17 PM

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with my 4790k

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:17 PM

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your 4790k is better than an 8350

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 9:17 PM

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running hot / not performng very well at 4.5ghz

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I mean

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:18 PM

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i run mine at 4.4

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 9:18 PM

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compared to my 2070

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I need one full thread for the gpu

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if only i had an 8c16t..

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:19 PM

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actually on older CPU's i find GPU's run a little faster with 2 threads per

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 9:19 PM

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I haven't tried because I don't fold on cpu anyway

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:20 PM

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my 4790k machine has 2 GPU's in it and when I set the thread count to 4 in F@H my GPU's had a small boost in PPD

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 9:20 PM

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have you tried 5 ?

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:20 PM

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cant do 5

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F@H wont do prime number thread counts

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it wont spit out an error per se

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but if you look at the logs it will say its reducing the thread count

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 9:22 PM

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You can enter any number from 1 to the number of threads your CPU supports.
If you have GPUs, F@H reserves one CPU per GPU to feed it data across the PCIE bus.
F@H has difficulty with large primes and their multiples number of CPUs.
7 is always large, 5 is sometimes large, and 3 is never large. Try to choose a number that is a multiple of 2 and/or 3.
2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 12, 16, 18, 24, 27, etc. are good numbers of CPUs to choose.
5. 10. 15, 20 etc may work most of the time. Other numbers will bite you.```

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:22 PM

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I can tell you it doesnt like 29

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🙂

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30 works great though

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Is that high enough thread count for it to throw errors instead of the warning about reducing number of threads?

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:24 PM

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it said 29 was a prime number so it reduced to 28

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i did have an interesting bit in the logs

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saw it was on a WU but the PPD was super low (like 1/3 normal) according to the logs it reduced the thread count from 30 to 12 for that specific WU

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didnt do that for the next one

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Oh, so it does that.

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Good to know.

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:26 PM

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wish i had a screenshot of that

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Don't you rotate your logs? 😛

hushed bobcat Apr 14, 2020, 9:27 PM

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F@H blue screened the PC that monitors all my clients 3 times in 2 days

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all my logs rolled away

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Darnit

trail night Apr 14, 2020, 10:09 PM

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📎 image0.png

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Enough Folding for the Month

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 10:38 PM

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But what about heating?

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 10:44 PM

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at $0.13 USD / kWh, that's about $33 USD isn't it?

smoky rose Apr 14, 2020, 10:54 PM

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A municipal politician in Sweden
"Corona can be a biological weapon. Just search for biological weapons on google and you will get a lot of results."

That's it. I'm going to bed.

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:06 PM

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@golden fulcrum which means +8$ in the bill

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25$ + 30.7% = 33$

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does the estimated credits go lower and lower as time passes by ?

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 11:20 PM

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@onyx canopy +$33 USD to the bill.

Wrt estimated credits, it can fluctuate depending on how the WU is being processed.

On another note, busy day today.. hopefully troubleshooting the PSU later this arvo. Fingers crossed.

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:21 PM

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why +33, 251 is total

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which means 191 last month

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oh you don't pay forfaits ? like same amount each month then at the end of the year you pay extra

stark bough Apr 14, 2020, 11:23 PM

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@smoky rose probably 20-40% of people think this was engineered and weaponized.
I prefer the other explanation:
“This wasn’t part of a plan at all. Like a volcano or earthquake or CME, statistics and chance just rolled a big one. It’s comforting to have a specific group to blame. It’s not so comforting when you can’t blame anyone”

golden fulcrum Apr 14, 2020, 11:26 PM

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@onyx canopy good point, sorry I misread the screenshot. That's $33 total, or roughly $10 more than usual.

stark bough Apr 14, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Had 3 power outages in 3 days. Inverted detected a fault to grid tie and shut down production during several days.
RIP folding

📎 image0.png

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:29 PM

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is this tesla roof ?

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oh, solar edge

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:34 PM

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With any luck, I'll have my cluster booting for the first time in the next hour. First run is only 4 boards, if everything works, I'll start to build the infrastructure to add the other 24 of them lol.

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Eli5 please

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:35 PM

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I have 28 Mini ITX motherboards with Atom n2600 CPUs and 2/4 gb of ram. I'm trying to make them in to a 'supercomputer' with clustered OS (Pelican Linux)

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:35 PM

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oh ok

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are the atom combined worth it ?

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:36 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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No idea.

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It's an experiment lol

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:36 PM

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I mean

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how powerful is one atom

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:36 PM

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2 core, 4 thread @ 1.6ghz with no AVX lol

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:36 PM

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in single thread

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oh god

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atleast it has 4 threads..

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:36 PM

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It's not really worth the power, but it's more an exercise in boredom and science lol.

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:36 PM

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I see

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did you buy all of these ?

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:37 PM

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All 28 running at full load will draw about 500 watts

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:37 PM

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its very low for this amount of cpus

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Nope, all were free.. saved from the scrap bin at work

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:37 PM

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totaly worth it then

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:37 PM

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The TDP is 11-14 watts each lol

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:37 PM

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how were they previously used for ?

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its like my old amd a4-5000

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terrible cpu haha

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:38 PM

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Scale indicators. They're last generation, and obsolete, so they were getting scrapped out for the newer boards

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They ran Windows 8 IOT with custom software

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Work perfect in that application lol

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:38 PM

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are you going to fold ?

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:39 PM

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If I can get it running, yeah.. I want to see if the entire cluster can break 20k ppd lol

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I'm guessing that's about what it will do

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:39 PM

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I think frequency x thread is what matters the most

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compared to "single core performance"

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Step 1 is to get it working on 4 boards, beta test and debug

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Yeah, but without AVX, it falls back to MMX instructions lol

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Which is why the estimate is so low

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:40 PM

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it will even struggle to run the vm haha

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:40 PM

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56 Cores, 112 threads total if I can get it all running lol..

burnt whale Apr 14, 2020, 11:41 PM

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key word is if

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:41 PM

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2x 28c56t xeons 1.6ghz

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:41 PM

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The way Pelican distributes the workload should be interesting. Imagine a threadripper with a 1gbps infinity fabric LOL

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It's gonna be SLOOOOOW

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but fun

burnt whale Apr 14, 2020, 11:42 PM

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well distributing the load across that many cpus will be REALLY hard

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:42 PM

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can you specicy the atom model ?

burnt whale Apr 14, 2020, 11:42 PM

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well

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distributing it evenly

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:42 PM

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I've got a nice 3com gigabit managed switch with 48 ports... Each board has a realtek (lol) gigabit nic

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:42 PM

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holy shit

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:42 PM

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the CPU's are soldered on...

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:42 PM

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poor switch

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Can't swap them lol

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:43 PM

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whats their model ?

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:43 PM

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N2600

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Q4'11

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HAHA

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Yep..

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Think a 2012 netbook.. Lol

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:43 PM

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when you said previous gen

burnt whale Apr 14, 2020, 11:43 PM

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but if you hook them all together getting them to work as "one" on a single task seems like more work than its worth

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:43 PM

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I thought you were talking about skylake

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or so

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skylake u

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i

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Pelican handles all the "heavy lifting' as far as splitting the workload. It just 'works'

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Even has XFCE GUI

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The GUI presents like a single CPU with X amount of cores

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:44 PM

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make sure this chipset is even supported by the os lol

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:44 PM

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It is

burnt whale Apr 14, 2020, 11:44 PM

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ohhhhhhhh im not familiar with pelican, i figured you had to do it manually

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:45 PM

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burnt whale Apr 14, 2020, 11:45 PM

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sounds fun

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Exactly lol

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Not even sure I can get F@H to play nice on it.

We'll find out as soon as my ISOs are done burning and I configure a persistent storage drive on the main host.

burnt whale Apr 14, 2020, 11:46 PM

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well

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if it makes the program think its a single CPU it shouldnt be an issue

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but if F@H realizes its not a single cpu it might throw a fit

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:46 PM

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shouldnt' Lol

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This is uncharted territory for me... So we'll see

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I've done some HPC with raspberry pi's before for shits and giggles, first time trying on x86/64

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:47 PM

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pretty sure it will try to assign each cpu a wu lol

burnt whale Apr 14, 2020, 11:48 PM

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assuming it isnt tricked into thinking its a single large cpu

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:48 PM

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the purpose is this trick tho

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:48 PM

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shrugface

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:48 PM

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otherwise its useless haha

burnt whale Apr 14, 2020, 11:48 PM

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kinda

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like you could still run them individually

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:49 PM

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Yeah, I'm not sure one of these boards by themselves could finish a WU in the allotted time lol.

burnt whale Apr 14, 2020, 11:49 PM

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you would have more WUs to do but they would take longer

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arent you allowed like a week per WU?

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:49 PM

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1.6ghz dual core on MMX... Might take longer than that lol.

burnt whale Apr 14, 2020, 11:49 PM

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shhhh small details

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:50 PM

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They recommend a P4 as a minimum, those were clocked a lot higher, and can barely squeak it out in a week.

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Maybe the 2c/4t might make it equal out, but who knows lol

burnt whale Apr 14, 2020, 11:50 PM

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calebYikes yikes

near gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Anyway, back to the dungeon.. I'll update in a while when I get closer or fail... Lol

burnt whale Apr 14, 2020, 11:50 PM

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good luck

onyx canopy Apr 14, 2020, 11:52 PM

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you will have the equivalent of a 2011 xeon 9282 lol (released in q2'19)

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400w tdp for 14nm

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avx on

forest sapphire Apr 14, 2020, 11:58 PM

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oh yeah . 3.5mil PPD

near gazelle Apr 15, 2020, 12:03 AM

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No video output after initial boot menu... Trying failsafe mode

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burnt whale Apr 15, 2020, 12:03 AM

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oh god

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did you verify they all work properly first?

near gazelle Apr 15, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Yep.

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Boots xubuntu 20.04 fine

burnt whale Apr 15, 2020, 12:04 AM

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does it output display on all of them or only one of them?

main mist Apr 15, 2020, 12:05 AM

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What motherboard is that?

near gazelle Apr 15, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Technically all will have some video output, but the nodes just have a warning not to touch anything lol

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Jetway NF9c-2600

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Failsafe mode seems to be working

burnt whale Apr 15, 2020, 12:06 AM

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weird

near gazelle Apr 15, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Most likely a driver issue

burnt whale Apr 15, 2020, 12:07 AM

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does it only use one of them as the "host" or are they all a collective "host"

near gazelle Apr 15, 2020, 12:07 AM

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One is host, rest are slave nodes

burnt whale Apr 15, 2020, 12:08 AM

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so the hosts drivers are the only ones that matter then

near gazelle Apr 15, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Yes

burnt whale Apr 15, 2020, 12:08 AM

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that makes it infinitely easier

near gazelle Apr 15, 2020, 12:08 AM

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If I have any more problems, I'll spin up a "modern" laptop as host

burnt whale Apr 15, 2020, 12:09 AM

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i love how you put "modern" in quotes

near gazelle Apr 15, 2020, 12:09 AM

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I have too many computers. Over 120 at last count

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My newest laptop is only a i7-3000 series

burnt whale Apr 15, 2020, 12:10 AM

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good god

near gazelle Apr 15, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Not a laptop person lol

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Main rig is all new lol

main mist Apr 15, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Yeah same tbh, I got a 4th gen i7 precision laptop just for having desktop power on the mobile

burnt whale Apr 15, 2020, 12:11 AM

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i have a laptop with a dead battery and broken wifi card

main mist Apr 15, 2020, 12:11 AM

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then i got a i5-5300u ultrabook for free, all i had to do was buy and replace the motherboard for $40

near gazelle Apr 15, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Yeah, my 3rd gen was free. Works perfectly except for the battery

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Closer shot of these boards

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main mist Apr 15, 2020, 12:13 AM

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the batteries in my laptops are 100% fine

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which is nice

near gazelle Apr 15, 2020, 12:13 AM

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Pci slot, but pcie m.2 lol

main mist Apr 15, 2020, 12:13 AM

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the i7 laptop has 32gb of ram a 256gb ssd and a 1tb hdd

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the other is i5-5300u 8gb of ram and a 500gb sshd

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i use it for Microsoft office and internet usage and some light programming its a ultrabook so its just a laptop i use for when i dont need alot of PC horsepower

near gazelle Apr 15, 2020, 12:20 AM

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So while failsafe boots, it goes straight to GUI and skips the setup script LOL

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Guess I'll login and see if it runs a GUI script

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That's something...

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near gazelle Apr 15, 2020, 12:45 AM

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📎 JPEG_20200414_204522.jpg

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📎 JPEG_20200414_204548.jpg

onyx canopy Apr 15, 2020, 12:46 AM

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1M20000 ppd

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not too bad

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seems to be working for you

near gazelle Apr 15, 2020, 12:46 AM

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📎 JPEG_20200414_204642.jpg

onyx canopy Apr 15, 2020, 12:46 AM

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LMAO

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MFLOPS

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is this 8t or 8c ?

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8c I guess

near gazelle Apr 15, 2020, 12:47 AM

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SUPERCOMPUTER

onyx canopy Apr 15, 2020, 12:47 AM

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4 * 2c

near gazelle Apr 15, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Lol

onyx canopy Apr 15, 2020, 12:48 AM

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looks like

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you're loosing speed

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its not scaling correctly

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is it ?

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the heck

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you dont have the same speeds per node

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you should check the bios

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of each board

near gazelle Apr 15, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Probably because of throttling

onyx canopy Apr 15, 2020, 12:49 AM

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thermal

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still, check the bios

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if the settings arent the same

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it's not good for the project

near gazelle Apr 15, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Three boards have subpar chunks of aluminum instead of heatsinks. Need more thermal compound

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📎 JPEG_20200414_205007.jpg

onyx canopy Apr 15, 2020, 12:50 AM

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try to get sensor info

near gazelle Apr 15, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Vs

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onyx canopy Apr 15, 2020, 12:50 AM

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ouch

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what about sensors ?

near gazelle Apr 15, 2020, 12:51 AM

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No idea, not easy to see lol...

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Not viewable in bios

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And Linux needs packages

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I'll get there

onyx canopy Apr 15, 2020, 12:55 AM

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reached 1M3 ppd :D

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only temporarily tho..

near gazelle Apr 15, 2020, 1:00 AM

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My main rig averages 1.2-1.3m

near gazelle Apr 15, 2020, 1:26 AM

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So, got the client and control installed. The client won't start. Gonna troubleshoot tomorrow. Bed time lol

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 1:47 AM

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thats a nice rig yestergear

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to bad it no client start 😦

odd barn Apr 15, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Just made it to over 1.1m points 😄

silver wing Apr 15, 2020, 2:12 AM

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@smoky rose Didn't know they made the fireside chat video public, nice. Some good info in there, nothing too detailed but enough to explain where the pain points actually are

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:24 AM

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yea im watching it now myself

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also jo is probably sleeping as its 4:24am there

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@silver wing any idea who I'd ask about why AMD's performance is so much lower than expected based on floating point precision numbers?

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i assume it's just software optimization level stuff, curious mostly

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wikipedia says my 5700xt should in theory be faster than an RTX titan in double unboosted, and another 20% faster with boost above that

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instead im seeing performance similar to on average but recently worse on average to a gtx1070

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14549 seems very poorly optimized

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almost a 40% drop from previous peak and 20-30% from expected at least

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1454* in general and some of the 1455* units that came next

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this is right now =/

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hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 2:29 AM

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From what I've observed F@H actually cares most about Single precision not Double Precision

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:29 AM

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peak is over 900k, avg should be at least 700-800k

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for sure

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well single is still supposed to be really high

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 2:30 AM

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5700xt single is around a gtx 1080

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:31 AM

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well

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in that wu i just showed above

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the 980ti gets double performance, same with the 1070, vs whats shown

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or like 40% more

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thats the kind of performance the GTX1060 is getting

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=/

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 2:32 AM

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that says 5600

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not a 5700

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vcVoSVtamcoGj5sFfvKF_XlvuviWWveJIg_iZ8U2bf0/pub?output=html#

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according to this the 5700 XT should be around 1.5-1.6 mil

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which would put it around a GTX 1080

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:33 AM

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its not got enough space

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and yea that sheet only has one person though

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that sheet does not have enough data

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 2:33 AM

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this is true

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:33 AM

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also my RX580 is having the same problem

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its not just the 5700xt

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according to wikipedia the RTX2080 has the same single performance as an unboosted 5700xt

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=/

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 2:34 AM

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i assume you checked and each openCL is actually referring to the correct card?

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:34 AM

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the 2080super the same as the boost

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it is

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both cards are active

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heating up ect

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under load

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 2:34 AM

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on both of my Dual GPU folding rigs it got the openCL backwards

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:34 AM

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the card isnt hitting full load either

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50-80% typical

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the units that were getting up to 900kppd were hitting 90% utilization

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and ive never seen higher

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its underperforming the 980ti and 1070 for days now and im wondering if there's something wrong but the only other person i know with a 5700xt hasnt had time to do a lot of testing

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they shut F@H down the night before and then when they got hteir code to get QRB they had to keep working on the same unit from 24hrs before =/

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rx580 =/

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they have been exclusively getting these WUs for like 4 or 5 days now

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while the nvidia cards get plenty of other ones that i know are better optimized for AMD and run well on nvidia as well

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 2:38 AM

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it might be worth double checking this

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:38 AM

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i did lol it was fine

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 2:38 AM

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you can see here GPU 0 is actually CUDA Device 1/OpenCL Device 1

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:38 AM

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hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 2:39 AM

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yea def looks right

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:39 AM

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yea we both went over this before xD

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when i was having trouble getting nvidia cards to work

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 2:40 AM

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the only other thing i can think of is a BUS limitation

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:40 AM

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the board is PCIE-4

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its x570

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 2:40 AM

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but a modern Ryzen platform should have no issues with 2 cards

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:40 AM

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both cards should be in 8x

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yea

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the 5700xt uses 4 as well

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 2:40 AM

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that wont matter unless the cards are 4.0

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which they arent

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:40 AM

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so its WAY more bandwidth than it needs

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it has it afaik it just doesn't need it at all

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xD

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lets people run multi-gpu configs more easily basically

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which im happy with them doing even if it raises the cost per card a few bucks since i use that feature

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lol

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rx580 dgaf either

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 2:41 AM

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if you run and NVME SSD it can cut one of your slots to 4x

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:41 AM

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i mean

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i do have 2

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 2:41 AM

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but thats usually the 3rd slot

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:41 AM

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but im pretty sure it has a dedicated 4x

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one is from the chipset one is from the cpu

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this is the gigabyte AORUS x570 board, the one at about $200

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i also have an X570 UD coming which does have 3 slots

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but only one M2

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they seem to trade you a 2nd m2 slot for another PCI-e due to board real estate

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but i dont need another for that rig lol

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 2:43 AM

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i think MSI afterburner can show BUS usage

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its probably not your issue

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but it wont hurt to check

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:43 AM

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yea i want to look at that just for fun now

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let me install afterburner on this PC, its only on the nvidia one

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was using it to monitor the p106-100 temps because it isnt showing them in OCCT since it isn't a GPU

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afterburner didnt at first either but then i set it to kernel mode

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and now it sees all

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@_@

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but yea, the guy who has the 5700xt besides me that i know is a programmer

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he got it because of the high paper stats

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he wants to learn to code for it better xD

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is upset that the entire coding environment is optimized for a company that is monopolistic and has just as many of it's own hardware side issues as the other guy, they just get a lot more money because of long term market share and marketing (historically)

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i've dealt with their internal culture a few times tho and it's kinda toxic lol

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used to personally know one of the lead marketing ppl at nvidia, they were our neighbors till they sued us frivolously and lost, so we moved and they one by one turned on everyone else on the cul de sac xD

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had to move themselves, out of a home that had been in the family since they were kids

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and at the time this was all going on she was busy trying to astroturf over AMD's massive success in compute with the 5870

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with huge nVidia marketing campaigns

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@hushed bobcat have you watched the fireside?

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they are talking about want to move away from proprietary environments as well 🙂

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(cuda)

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they didnt say it outright but in general they want the whole thing open source except the point system

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point system needs to not be cheatable lol

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 2:51 AM

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fireside?

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:51 AM

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the one you were talking about i thought

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 2:51 AM

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no idea what you're talking about

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:51 AM

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nvbm

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bad memory

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it weas someone else earlier, let me link you it was posted by jo while they were still awake

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad_TEiByZUQ&feature=youtu.be

YouTube

FoldingAtHome

Folding@home Developer Fireside Chat (done April 9th, 2020)

On April 9th, we hosted a Fireside chat with some members of the Folding@home team, including lead developer Joseph Coffland (actual chat start at 6:30), F@h head of communications Anton Thynell, and F@h team member Sukrit Singh, and Jörgen from a communications firm BE that i...

▶ Play video

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the bit about open sourcing is around 1:03-1:04

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 2:58 AM

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@brittle coral I want to try out an OG Titan

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you were talking about double floating point

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practically nothing beats the OG Titan in Double Precision floating point

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 3:01 AM

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supposedly the RTX titan is slower than the 5700xt in double

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let me look at the og

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 3:01 AM

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1300

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its double your 5700 xt I think

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Titan black is 1706 O_O

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 3:02 AM

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@_@

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its 1500 btw

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hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 3:02 AM

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1300-1500

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 3:02 AM

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so about 3x without boost

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 3:03 AM

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either way its a ton

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 3:03 AM

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yea

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hot damn

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im surprised the RTX titan is worse

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idk why they do that xD

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 3:03 AM

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but that chart i linked earlier said the OG titan was only good for about 200k ppd

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BUT only 1 report

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no way its slower than a 780 Ti

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 3:04 AM

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actually

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the 780ti in the wiki right above what i pasted above

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is faster

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not by much but it is

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 3:05 AM

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in single

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but we were talking about double

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 3:05 AM

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ah yea

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but you were talking about in PPD

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and single is what matters there

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apparently

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 3:06 AM

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well thats just a guess on my part based on my observation

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thats why i want to buy an OG Titan to test myself

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 3:06 AM

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yea but if a GTX titan is slower than a 780ti in single and you test it then we'll know for sure XD

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thats the most obvious way

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im betting you it is though

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even with just 1 result

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that result is REALLY low

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it would be the fastest card on the network if it were double

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 3:07 AM

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yea i would think it would match the 780 Ti

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it's a conspiracy 🙂

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 3:08 AM

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im really glad i got a pile of nvidia cards tho for the rig out there instead of buying AMD stuff after seeing the optimization issues that seem to affect some WUs on AMD tho xD

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especially since that rig is dedicated

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and this one i still game on the 5700xt

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i leave my CPU and the RX580 folding still of course

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60-80fps in witcher 3 🙂

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same as without folding

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AMD systems are def better optimized for cpu useage at least, i wonder why nvidia needs a whole thread to itself

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or, could be that the whole thread to itself is what's keeping the nvidia card up

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 3:11 AM

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its got to be the way the CPU streams data to the CUDA cores

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the only thing i can think of

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you look at the BUS usage?

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 3:11 AM

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oh no i forgot

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one sec

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let me close witcher 3 it was launching, bout to finish a WU on the 5700xt

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man i remember when MSI wasn't even in the performance/OC space and it was just rivatuner and you didn't get most of this cool shit

smoky rose Apr 15, 2020, 3:13 AM

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@silver wing I didn't expect them too. It was a nice surpise.

@brittle coral Triss or Yennefer?

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Back to bed. Ta ta.

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 3:13 AM

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I'm a ginger so triss (with a side of Shani

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i picked shani in witcher 1

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lol

smoky rose Apr 15, 2020, 3:14 AM

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You're dead to me. 🙂

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 3:14 AM

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xD

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i mean

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i tried to do both in the first playthrough

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but apparently they dont like that

smoky rose Apr 15, 2020, 3:14 AM

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You got that right. Yen is not a fan of you getting on with her friend.

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 3:15 AM

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lmao

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also to be fair

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the main deciding factor in picking triss was that she wasn't shacked up with the tankie authoritarians xD

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@hushed bobcat where do i find the bus stream

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we got 9 minutes before i run out of work on this slot and cant check the bus useage xD

golden fulcrum Apr 15, 2020, 3:28 AM

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i think MSI afterburner can show BUS usage
@hushed bobcat
GPU-z does too.

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 3:28 AM

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shit why dont i ope nthat lol

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i cant find it in afterburner

golden fulcrum Apr 15, 2020, 3:29 AM

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lol, probably 'cause you've either gotta select it in the options, or scroll down through all the little graphs to find it.
I just use GPU-z as it's heaps easier to find

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 3:30 AM

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yea im still not seeing it in gpuz either lol i dont see it in options either

golden fulcrum Apr 15, 2020, 3:30 AM

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look under sensors tab

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 3:30 AM

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yea im there

golden fulcrum Apr 15, 2020, 3:30 AM

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generally 2/3rds way down

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*down. halfway down

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 3:31 AM

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its idle now

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just finished the wu

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will have to test the bus useage later but at least i can figure out where the setting is now lol

golden fulcrum Apr 15, 2020, 3:32 AM

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just change one of the drop-downs. lol.

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 3:32 AM

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those drop downs don't change what the sensor is monitoring just the graphing

golden fulcrum Apr 15, 2020, 3:33 AM

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I know for Nvidia it's about 1/2 to 2/3rd way down on sensors page. Team red perhaps check options

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 3:33 AM

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maybe AMD doens't have a bus readout

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yea

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its nvidia vs amd again

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no bus monitoring on AMD side

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my afterburner on the nvidia rig has it

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found it immediately

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hold on

golden fulcrum Apr 15, 2020, 3:35 AM

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interesting, the iGPU on my 7600T doesn't have that readout either

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Hmm

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 3:36 AM

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in afterburner

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there's a value called "GPU FB usage, %"

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thats only showing up for the 5700xt

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oh haha

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okay FB is frame buffer

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so nvm thats not it

golden fulcrum Apr 15, 2020, 3:41 AM

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buggar. ok, I'm outta ideas. lol. just assumed team red had a similar reading for PCIe bus usage as what team green has in GPU-z

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 3:44 AM

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yea its weird lol

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but apparently i can look at the frame buffer useage

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idk if i can on nvidia, didnt look

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using it a ton now cause witcher 3 is running again

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yea they do as well

hushed bobcat Apr 15, 2020, 3:47 AM

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Pretty sure my 1080 Ti has FB usage in Afterburner

brittle coral Apr 15, 2020, 3:47 AM

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yea the entire set of them do

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the rx580 isnt showing it but that may be because it's not primary anyway, but in afterburner on the other rig a least 2 of the GPUs had FB useage listed, i thin the 106-100 was the one that didnt

stark bough Apr 15, 2020, 3:48 AM

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wish i had this running earlier

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