#folding-and-boinc

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honest silo
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folding being dumb

rich depot
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Oh I see, you need to go to donor stats, not team stats

smoky rose
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How long have you been folding for?

honest silo
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like a month on and off

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now it says im not in a team and ive got no points...

rich depot
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Can you check your folding name in your client, you can just click your folding name in the advanced client btw

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The advanced client can be opened by typing FAHcontrol in the start menu

honest silo
rich depot
honest silo
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doesnt do anything

rich depot
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Hmm... weird... could be the stats server being weird, can you find yourself on EOC?

smoky rose
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I looked. Nopes.

honest silo
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do i have a user id?

rich depot
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you should have

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hmm...

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I'd hit up the folding forum if you haven't shown up after a month tbh

storm talon
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looks fine for me

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or is this after this "reset"

rich depot
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@honest silo something just came to me, did you enter a new passkey when you reinstalled the client?

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As in, did you generate a new one, not just reenter the one you used before

smoky rose
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If you request a passkey with the same username + email you will always get the same passkey returned to you.

stone mason
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Anyone know how I can limit the amount of cpu cores being used on F@H? I'd rather not have my Ryzen 2600 pinged at 100% all the time, maybe allow it to use 6 of my 12 cores.

smoky rose
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Open Advanced Control, Configure, Slots
CPU, Edit

stone mason
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So under the cpu portion just put the number of threads it can use?

smoky rose
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Current setting is -1

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-1 = client decides

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You can set it to whatever you want. Kinda.

You can enter any number from 1 to the number of threads your CPU supports.
If you have GPUs, F@H reserves one CPU per GPU to feed it data across the PCIE bus.
F@H has difficulty with large primes and their multiples number of CPUs.
7 is always large, 5 is sometimes large, and 3 is never large. Try to choose a number that is a multiple of 2 and/or 3.
2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 12, 16, 18, 24, 27, etc. are good numbers of CPUs to choose.
5. 10. 15, 20 etc may work most of the time. Other numbers will bite you.```
stone mason
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Gotcha, changed it to 6 and it seems to be working per utilization in task manager. Thanks!

rich depot
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@smoky rose my thinking was if he didn't have a passkey before that could wipe his previous points

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But yeah, was not very good at explaining that, should have asked if he used the same email for his passkey but meh, I'm tired

smoky rose
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But can the points be wiped? If you set a username but not a passkey. Do that username get the points?

rich depot
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True... I know they don't always count towards your new total sometimes but they should still be on the stats server... Hmm...

smoky rose
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They will show up on EOC only if you are in one of the top 12 000 teams.

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Usernames are not unique. If you use the same username you should, worst case, see two different entries.

storm talon
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I just saw a maserati at the grocery. That's some daily driver there bud

rich depot
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Why were you outside

frozen oxide
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grocery

rich depot
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Weak. Just eat TP

odd barn
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Eat money

rich depot
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exactly

smoky rose
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The county I lived in less than a year ago have had 4205 confirmed cases, 213 at ICU and 523 dead.
It's much better where I live now. 73 cases, 8 ICU, 1 dead.

Going to the grocery store is not really an issue here. Well, wouldn't be if people could learn to keep their damn distance.

rich depot
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where do you live now?

odd barn
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Once people are in the grocery stores they forget about social distancing because they're so focused on going everywhere and touching EVERYTHING

eternal orchid
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LTT #1 for Month of April atm!!!

smoky rose
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@rich depot Sweden

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I used to live in Stockholm. Now I live in Värmland.

rich depot
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ah okay

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nice country, kinda cold

smoky rose
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"I see dead people. Well, technically they are stupid people but give me fifteen minutes."

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That's how I feel when I tell people to keep their distance and they reply "But I'm not sick."

rich depot
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😂

stark bough
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Last time i was out i experienced coofing

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Once people are in the grocery stores they forget about social distancing because they're so focused on going everywhere and touching EVERYTHING
@odd barn
I can feel the boredom. Its palatable.

smoky rose
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coofing?

odd barn
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hahaha

smoky rose
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Ok. Google "coofing" and you can imagine the face I made.

stark bough
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Also this is now a subreddit.

smoky rose
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First result for me was drugs related.

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This seasons norovirus died out 7 weeks earlier here. Washing of hands is thing. Who knew.

odd barn
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All people needed to do was wash their hands, cough into their sleeves, and stay home if they're sick. Yet most of society is selfish and has no idea what to do with themselves.

smoky rose
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That and all the damn facebook/twitter experts drives me nuts.

stark bough
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Also they dont like to be told what to do. Even if its just “be nice”

keen hill
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nice

stark bough
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Darn. Couldnt hold rank 1,000

smoky rose
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Team or overall rank?

stark bough
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Event rank

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Been busy and havent been able to manually restart the client

odd barn
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okay, after all these hiccups, I'm ready to start folding again

stark bough
rich depot
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lol

stark bough
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That or I could find an upload

rough kiln
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Off topic sorta. Looking for an AMD MB that can handle as many GPU's as possible to build a dedicated FAH any thoughts?

smoky rose
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What operating system are you going for?

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Hmm, do folding work well with risers?

rough kiln
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W10 or linux doesnt matter

smoky rose
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You will get better performance, higher PPD in Linux.

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So are you looking to build a 10 GPU machine or something lighter like 4 GPUs?

rough kiln
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10, but havent found anything larger than 8

odd barn
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If you're building a dedi FAH, you're gonna get much better performance running a headless OS like Linux

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any more resources means a decrease in performance

stark bough
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4.03,4.04 is probably what knocked me out of therunning

smoky rose
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I have not kept up with the AMD cpus lately but I would to Xeon for that build.

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Xeons to be specific.

odd barn
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My PC is currently putting out 0.333kWh, and the rate here is 0.10 cents, that's really not bad, isn't it

stark bough
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Ours is double that but we got solar

toxic crater
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Linux seems to work better. My Linux headless doesn’t seam to stop running WUs

odd barn
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Not bad at all

stark bough
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Plus we need the heat anyway

odd barn
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Solar definitely offsets the costs of what you're doing then anyway

stark bough
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I actually get ‘complaints’ that the house is cold if i dont run it

smoky rose
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There you go.

odd barn
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oh wow

stark bough
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Its sitting in a living room with a faulted ceiling

odd barn
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Should I just stick to Corsair for fans

stark bough
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Vaulted

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Arctic fans are good value

odd barn
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27.99 CAD for a pack of 5

rough kiln
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@smoky rose @odd barn Thanks

odd barn
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I did nothing

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But you're welcome

smoky rose
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You won't put an AMD cpu in that one but as far as I know what you want doesn't really make it into the equation when you are putting 10 GPUs in one machine.

odd barn
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The one exhaust fan I have in the back of my case currently can't even keep up with regular airflow, so it feels like nothing is coming out @stark bough

smoky rose
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@rough kiln There are "bitcoin mining motherboards" too if you don't want to purchase a server. But that will involve risers and I don't know if folding and risers work.

rough kiln
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ok

odd barn
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These are my favorite to look at but obviously not for too long of course

queen aurora
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@smoky rose these boards only limit the pci bandwith since gpu mining can sufficiently run on pci x4

since gpu mining is opencl , and folding at home is opencl you can use them for folding.

but I would not recommend it unless you got the proper case and air throput 😛

smoky rose
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I would not recommend it. Period.

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But the supermicros come with a hefty pricetag so I do understand those who go with consumer hardware and risers.

stark bough
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@odd barn ive gone higher positive pressure for folding.

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i replaced my one rear fan with a a12x25

odd barn
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I just dont want to waste money on fans and buy the wrong thing

stark bough
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temps seem to be down but for the most part the noise level is MUCH more tolerable

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well not noise level, more like sound profile.

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i dont mind something being audible as long as the sound is pleasant

odd barn
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nor do I

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I've had a few PC's in the past that have sounded like planes taking off

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all because they had like 12 fans all running at 2000 RPM

timber grove
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asmr fans?

odd barn
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I'm not gonna lie though, this R5 3600X is doing much better than my old CPU

stark bough
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I have a $20 wal mart fan and a $210 air purifier.

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set to the same DB. one i can sleep though. the other is intoerable from the other room

stark bough
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@odd barn well crap. PV had a fault and stopped producing for 3 days

odd barn
stark bough
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That was last week

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Literally the same consumption

sour locust
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is it possible for a WU to fail if it gets interuppted?

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because there was a power outage here

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and it knocked out both my folding systems

stark bough
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it should restart from the last good save point

sour locust
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hmm good

gaunt wasp
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8 work units on the Mac Pro.

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Heated the room to a toasty 74°F/23.3°C, with all 4 cores at 100°F/37.8°C. Opened some windows, and a nice breeze helped bring all the temps down, especially the PSU from 154°F/67.8°C to 120°F/48.9°C

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PSU is 980 watts, so if the CPU’s are all at max, it’ll definitely warm up.

storm talon
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mac pro's are essentially huge heatsinks anyways aren't they

brittle coral
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they are well cooled but the alu outer chassis is only so helpful when the inside is still the same plastic and steel construction most cases are

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they just perform well because of good channel airflow and such

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not really a lot of dead spots heat can accumulate in the case, which is how you get the best heat transmission into the metal of the case itself lol

stark bough
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Lol. I’ve been actively ventilating my living room, then the WU ended and now it’s cold again

gaunt wasp
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@storm talon it’s the old, pre-cylinder design.

storm talon
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ah

gaunt wasp
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That said, the case metal does actually provide some cooling effect for the areas around the CPU, PSU, and back of the logic board.

brittle coral
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yea back of the board is the biggest impact for sure

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that's one area that's always been overlooked in case cooling of standard ATX designs (ie not mod boxes with multiple chambers)

gaunt wasp
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The non-door side has minimal air flow, but the aluminium is conductive & thick enough to provide some radiant effect for the air in that space.

brittle coral
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one project I saw a watercooling nerd do was build a waterblock for the entire back of the board. he basically seated the entire board on short risers and used a super sized thermal pad grid to pull heat off of it there. the block used the hot water outtake from the rest of the loop and it still helped things like VRM temps and such

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cost a ton to do but since it was for the case it was a 1 time and forget it job 😄

gaunt wasp
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This case is designed with high flow in mind, however the rear fan only has a small & indirect path for air to come from behind the logic board at the very bottom. Beneath the RAM riser cards.

brittle coral
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i wish i could transfer WUs between cards ugh

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i have a competition event soon and i have a WU that's going slower than i'd like on my 5700xt thats underclocked for temp reasons. my 980ti is idle and i have a gaming event starting in 30 minutes that the 5700xt is gonna power xD

gaunt wasp
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First world problems

storm talon
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first world problems are real now

gaunt wasp
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Wish I had that 12 core Mac Pro with 32 gig ram, 4 5 tb hard drives, mint 19 on one, windows 7 & 10 on one, Mac OS 10.6/7/8 on one & whatever the newest one it can run by itself on one hd. Then i would put in a usb 3.1 4 port card with two type A & two type C. Then i would have the best graphics card that works without any fiddling.

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Ah well.

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Stuck with the first gen 1.1 dual 5150 2.66 ghz & 6 gig ram

gaunt wasp
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I’ve set each slot to run 7 threads each. Currently running 600% of cpu capacity -mad scientist laugh- 😑

smoky rose
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Do the slots actually run with 7 threads or do they drop down to 6?

plain geyser
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woot i broke 10 million 😄

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now on to 20 million 😄

storm talon
plain geyser
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LOL

storm talon
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congrats to

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tho

plain geyser
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now if they can just keep feeding my 1080ti with work >.> it's sittign ide about 70% of the time cause there is no WU T^T

storm talon
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i can't wait to get 1000 wus

plain geyser
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Nice 😄

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where did you get those numbers>?

storm talon
plain geyser
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oh cool

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i can see my old team i use to do on my PS3

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lol

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wow i feel old

storm talon
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my boss made me use our company name because i'm using company resources lol

plain geyser
storm talon
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how long u been folding?

plain geyser
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on and off since i got PS3

storm talon
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right on

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I started about 2 weeks ago

plain geyser
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yeah same

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i just retarted

storm talon
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ye

plain geyser
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but i have 4 pc going

storm talon
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I have 24 vm's going

plain geyser
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nice

storm talon
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hehe

plain geyser
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i kinda want to kidnap my work's server

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btu i think IT would murder me

storm talon
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trying to convince cancercomputer to throw some rosetta power over to my folding

plain geyser
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LOL

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you for for CC eh >.>

storm talon
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we host 2 of their nodes yea

plain geyser
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Youa are my Mortal enemy 😄

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oh nvm than 😄

storm talon
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how so?

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I'

plain geyser
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i am trying to convice the IT at my work to let me use our servers

storm talon
plain geyser
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I cant disclose where i work but we CC and us are mortal enemies 😄

storm talon
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that's who you mean?

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cause cc = canada computers as well

plain geyser
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yeah i mean Canada computers

storm talon
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ahahaha no no

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look up that url

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we host hpc clusters running rosetta

plain geyser
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ah good i dont have to murder you in your sleep 😄

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cool

storm talon
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yea no, we good

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if I want a 15 year old to screw up my ram install I will go to cancom

plain geyser
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LOL

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i dont let anyone touch mine >.>

storm talon
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I returned a b450 matx cause it was a bit too big from my case, and they denied it cause there was "bent pins"

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I had to talk to a "manager"

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there are no pins on amd boards bud

plain geyser
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lol

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that said

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AMD Mobo maufacturers are getting annal

storm talon
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if I didn't know better I'd be out 300 bucks

plain geyser
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my company got the memo to check AMD socket pins from now on

storm talon
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orly? shit

plain geyser
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lift the lever up and you cn see the pings through the socket

storm talon
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ya it's a zif but if you jam a ... whatever down there they can be damaged

plain geyser
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yeah

storm talon
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not like the intel boards

plain geyser
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i knwo for sure Gigabyte is starting to throw a stink

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Asus sent out memo yesterday

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MSI nothing yet

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so gotta be acrefulw ith AMD boards now too

storm talon
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other than firmware updates i have not had a single issue... I am noticing some usb issues tho

plain geyser
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haha i am sitting on a pile of Intel machines, my sext one will likely be ADM

storm talon
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if I plug in my wired headphones into the front jack it turns off my second monitor for a second... I think I need a new case

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I haven't used intel in years... amd is just better

plain geyser
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for what i do Inetl have been the champ for a while

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until zen 2

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dear god zen 2 destoryed Intel

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about friken time too

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i am so sick of how smug the intel rep is everytime he stops by my store

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Zen 2 wipe the smugness off nice a quick

stark bough
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zen 1 was really unploished but great.

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zen 2 is so polished its not even funny.

storm talon
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i started with a ryzen 3 1300x

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upgraded to a r5 2600x

stark bough
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the only real complains i hear about is is the x570 chipset, pcie 4.0, and that 3000 doesnt have quite the gains in freq OC'ing.

plain geyser
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for people that like hardware Zen 1 was a mess, the average user just dont have the know how.

Zen 2 on the other hand dam boi it took over all the sale for a good few months

storm talon
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zen 1 was an absolute dumpster fire

plain geyser
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in think in the alst 4 months 4 I9 move off the shelf

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but we can barely keep R9 in stock to save our life

stark bough
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imho people are just angry that mem oc'ing and fclk gains more than cpu ocing.

storm talon
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I record and stream and since I upgraded to the 2600x it's been nothing but a pleasure

stark bough
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I got a 3700x, but it feels more like an R5 than an R7.

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simply cause 3950x exists.

plain geyser
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lol

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my next one will be the 4900x 😄

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all them thread to fold even faster

storm talon
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I almost bought a 3900x on black friday for 399

stark bough
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im planning on retiring my 3700x to a mitx case for my brother to use for gaming.

plain geyser
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haha

stark bough
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get the next 3900x equivalent for 4000 series.

plain geyser
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i have no one to pass my old pc down to >.>

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ia m the youngest

stark bough
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imagine using up an entire CCX for background folding.

plain geyser
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well i am liekly to get 4900x if not 4950x, but more likely 4900x

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LOL

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i am use i can stick half of the CPU on full time Folding and still game just fine

stark bough
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i love that AMD now has enough cashflow to really release things on its own schedule.

storm talon
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amd always had that tho

stark bough
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Zen 1 you can really feel like they had to get it out the door right away

plain geyser
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tweek the scheduler a bit have have folding rum in the back ground on 2 dies

storm talon
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they're just trolling intel at this point

stark bough
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just get cashflow NOW< even with a half baked memory controller.

plain geyser
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yeah

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oh god

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zen 1

stark bough
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'is this b die'? 'is this b die'

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'hey guys is this memory good for zen'

plain geyser
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the amount of Mobo that got bricked during Bios flash due to ram LOL

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i think my RMA guy wanted to cry aftre the first 2 weeks

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that before i figured out whats safe to flash Bios With

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cause the QVL list was useless

stark bough
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dude. imagine if zen1 came out at the same time as the mining crazy and memory price fixing.

plain geyser
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LOL

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no

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please no

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zen one was a absolute nightmare for me

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the amount of OMG WHY DIDNT YOU TELL ME THIS RAM WILL BRICK MY BOARD!

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well

stark bough
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does 1600AF not have the memory issues?

plain geyser
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you never told us which CPU or Mobo you had....

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they all did

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and depending on the bloody Mobo

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they have issues with different RAM

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Q%##@RFA^TGW$%&$#A@4

storm talon
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lol

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do you sub to /r/talesfromtechsupport

plain geyser
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naw too much pain

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i live that, it's my life

storm talon
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I spent 18 years doing it for the military

plain geyser
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funny to stop once in a while, than i relaise oh wait i got to deal wihtt hat too.... than it's just sad form there on out

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haha

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oh thge military

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the ancient equipment

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my Friend in the navy will not stop bit******* about that, and he has been retired for over 1o years

stark bough
plain geyser
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LOL

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No you don't understand, there is WAY worst on the destroyer he was on, he was in Bush senior's war

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and right after he refuse to re up his enlistment and married a JPN girl and lived in JPN since

storm talon
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are you kidding

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I worked on a 386 system that ran qnx when i first got to station

plain geyser
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lol

stark bough
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Oki?

plain geyser
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the military is sepical

stark bough
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or Yokosuka?

storm talon
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the military does not upgrade anything unless they have to

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I can't say which project, it's classified

plain geyser
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Floppy disk anyone, and i mean the actually floppy floppy disk

stark bough
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ever have problems with people leaving the military, thinking they know an OS/software, and when they get out and try to transition to civilian life, they find that the version of software they gotten used to is no longer used anywhere else?

storm talon
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my first pc was a vic20 with a tape drive

plain geyser
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O.o should i call you grandpa?

stark bough
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I dont understand this. you said it was word

storm talon
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yes I have actually Mobius. My qualifications are all in Solaris and shit

stark bough
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Its the same software, they just updated the UI.

plain geyser
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LOL

storm talon
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they just used jdk

plain geyser
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oh god the pain of explaining that to Customers, the older once...

storm talon
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and ported to intel

stark bough
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I was trying to save my document, where di everything go?
"its not a drop down anymore, they cover up everything when you want to save"

storm talon
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I liked programming on sparc and dec alpha

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and yes I'm old af

plain geyser
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lol

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grandpa it is

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😄

storm talon
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turning 41 this year I'm farting dust

plain geyser
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okay tahts not old

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you are only a few years older than me

storm talon
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it's old for msot of the discord communities I freuqnet

plain geyser
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okay mroe than 1 hand but still

stark bough
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Its the button that everyone who is no longer in high school you can hit

storm talon
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it's nice to have some adults around that can speak properly

stark bough
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reminding everyone that you are old.

plain geyser
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i guess i am a decade behind you

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almost a decade

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LOL

storm talon
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enjoy your 30's my dude

stark bough
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it's old for msot of the discord communities I freuqnet
@storm talon
wHy doNt U fInD mY mEmEs fUnNy

storm talon
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ahahahaha

stark bough
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30's? lol i didnt even finish my 20s.

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and by that i mean 'I didnt finish all the checkpoints i needed to complete in my 20s'

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the whole 'getting married setlting down and owning a 3 story house' deal

storm talon
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idk I had a blast in my 20's

plain geyser
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enjoy your 30's my dude
@storm talon Nah can't do suffering tech support hell, and being a chick you wont believe how many people ignore my advice until they realise i am the friken manager

storm talon
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oh yea screw that I didn't have kids in til I was 32

stark bough
storm talon
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and that getting married buying a house and all that consumer crap

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no thanks

stark bough
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@storm talon I was guilted into not focusing into marrage and being married by the time i was 22. The "old economy steve" was real for me.

plain geyser
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haha i will start family.... in my late 30s.... i can feel my mom's death glare from the other side of the world

storm talon
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yea, totally understandable... A few of my ex's tried pressuring me in to it and I'm like nah

plain geyser
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mom wanted me married like ten years ago

storm talon
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the ... nuclear family what you call it...

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meh

plain geyser
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Asian mentality

storm talon
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I had 2 kids, boy and girl with my ex

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we're "co-parenting" rn

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that's the new thing

plain geyser
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sorry mom i grew up in Canada and that Shi*** dont fly with us 😄

stark bough
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Asian mentality
@plain geyser
Did you also grow up with the idea that 'your parents suffered, and that you owe them grandkids and a new house by the time you are 25? And that also you are their retirement plan?'

storm talon
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you know you're in you're ex's good books when she shows up with a 6pack of heineken tall boys and a couple steaks and says happy easter lol

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steaks are long gone but them beers are lookin hella cold rn

stark bough
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Being an Asian kid growing up in North America to asian parents be like = Being told you have lack of appreciation and constant guilt.

plain geyser
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@plain geyser
Did you also grow up with the idea that 'your parents suffered, and that you owe them grandkids and a new house by the time you are 25? And that also you are their retirement plan?'
@stark bough Something along this line yes.

storm talon
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that must be rough on the self esteem

stark bough
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most of the time I'm living with my older relatives taking care of the small things.

storm talon
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my daughter asked me tonight if she could bake cookies for dinner

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i was like hell yea

stark bough
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lol have fun with that.

plain geyser
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thankfully My brother is their retirement plan cause it's tradition that the son take careof the parents 😄

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i am just the no good daughter that refuse to get married >.>

stark bough
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Im sure their idea of me was "become a sucessful doctor, make $210k a year, and send everyone related to me a check of $40k a year so they can live their best life whie at the same time finding an attractive rich person to marry and have 4 kids"

plain geyser
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LOL

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they tried match making once, i think i scare the dude away cause i am an un apologetic nerd

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may have bored him to death on purpose but hey, they can't say i didn't participate

stark bough
#

As the 'responsible one', I had to focus on housekeeping, maitenance, anc chores.

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had a grandmother call me a 'woman' for knoing how to cook and clean

plain geyser
#

typical

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but yeah

stark bough
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'just marry someone who can handle that. your job is to bring in the money'

plain geyser
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my brother cant cook his way out of a TV dinner

stark bough
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8 years later im literally doing that for boomers.

plain geyser
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lol

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my daughter asked me tonight if she could bake cookies for dinner
@storm talon humm i mgiht need to make some cookies now

stark bough
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lack of long term care means they appreciate the company.

plain geyser
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cause i now crave cookies

stark bough
#

and also the occasional lecture about how 'I should be happy to be in their house.'

plain geyser
#

hah i moved out when i hit 18

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Dad was not happy

stark bough
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"You need to focus on yourself being more attractive"

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😄

plain geyser
#

oh the Sh** asian parents say

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i wonder if Linus will be like a asian parent 😛

storm talon
stark bough
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Its either "marry a white person and improve your social status" or "Only marry someone of our background so they know how to be respectful"

storm talon
#

yolo

stark bough
#

im sure Yvonne's parents were disappointed in choosing a 'white boy who wore earings and failed math' while their daughter was a 'sucessful costco pharmacist'

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Linus's early days were really interesting.

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WAN show and livestreams talk about how he was this guy in her girlfriends basement unboxing products for videos for NCIX while her parents 'tolerated' him

plain geyser
#

lol yeah

stark bough
#

For his cohort though. Linus started a family and got married like REALLY young.

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Look at James and Luke for comparison.

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they are just getting started. kids not even 1 year old. Luke is expecting his first twins.

plain geyser
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well my current BF is Puertorican (SP/Word?)

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mom and dad never met him 😄

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i can imagine the sit donw talk they will give me already

stark bough
#

lol i was seeing this tall blonde girl for a whole into MOBAs. ended about 6 years ago. to this day I keep on getting asked about her.

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Got off social media cause people focused way too much on looks for a couple.

plain geyser
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my requirement must like camping and hiking, and can appreciate me nerding out on things 😄

stark bough
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lol same.

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ended up breaking up a relationship cause they just couldnt understand how sometimes i needed to 'drop things' because of prior obligations.

#

ever have an arguments with a boomer about how, no. its not a good thing that your electronics are hot.

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"You need to take it out of your closet, its way too warm in there"
"Well, they run better when they're hot, why else would it make so much heat"

plain geyser
#

Ah

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lol

stark bough
#

at least 3 times ive ran into a situation where their 'dvr's were no longer playing their recordings.

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turns out their hard drives died, either to excessive heat or vibration, and it was simply unfamtomable that their data was just 'gone'

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as if their cable news recordings, or pay per view subscriptions were 'cloud based' like netflix

storm talon
#

i use cloud dvr

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on kodi

odd barn
#

Makes you wonder what drives they were using

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I had a chain company contract my company to figure out why all their drives on their Camera NVR’s were dying after 6 months of them getting the NVR’s. We get on site and go through the specs. Turns out they had asked for either purple, black, or red WD drives. They got either green or blue WD drives. These drives were recording 24/7. I just shook my head, replaced the drives and it cost them about $25,000 worth of drives because whoever installed the system clearly wasn’t competent enough to know the difference

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Haven’t heard from the company since

brittle coral
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yea those companies are the best lol

#

you wont hear from them for years and then they'll fuck something major like that up and you'll walk away with a huge payday due to their incompetence. they'll resent you for taking so much of their money and then immediately remember you solved their problem last time so we might as well call again!

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or in management speak; "IT department doesn't generate income" .......😒

brittle coral
#

Press F to pay respects to these loyal soldiers. They saw many years of battle and work in the mines. The 7950 had seen death and returned to fight again but has loaded his last driver no more. Hope the e-waste pile is good to ya

rich depot
#

holy shit, what happened with F@H?

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Assign rate is down from 135k to 55k

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also @brittle coral use them as epower

fierce steppe
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Could be why I can't get a GPU WU

rich depot
#

yeah

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looks like one of the main 2 servers is down

brittle coral
#

oof

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yea i am running at partial strength as well

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one of 3 slots is missing a WU on my desktop, the 3 gpu folder's monitor isn't connected so i can't VNC in but earlier it was missing work as well

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im swapping coolers on my CPU in the 3rd one

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i had a lapped megahalems in there but it didn't have a fan and i forgot to plug in the system fan by it apparently. didn't notice till i was half way through taking it off, at which point i remembered i'd lapped it and it's the best air cooler i own. may swap out the stock cooler on my 3800x if i can get an AM4 bracket for it

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i spent 8 hours lapping that damn cooler i better use it again sometime xD

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i'd forgotten about it since i'd used water on the 2 rigs after it

jade slate
#

well i got a 6 hour CPU WU and a more normal 1 hour GPU WU

keen hill
#

Why aren't sometime jobs for my hardware in f@h?

rich depot
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@keen hill because the amount of people folding has gone up like 20 times in a short period of time. they are adding server capacity but its not that easy

keen hill
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so overload?

rich depot
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yes

keen hill
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on the centeral datacenter/servers

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makes sense..

rich depot
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it has been better the last few days though, compared to 2 weeks ago. but its still not perfect

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but its a good problem. better have to many folders than to many servers

weak flume
#

How normal is it to get a CPU WU with 1.25M steps on it? Project is 14190

brittle coral
#

man

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i pulled this 38mm fan out of an old bitcoin miner from 2012, it sounds like a jet starting up

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it's so powerful i cut off a tiny tip of my knuckle and i took the fan grilles from the miner and stuck them on it to protect it and myself xD. i destroyed the last fan in there with a cable that took one of its fins off. now to see if i can get this final rig mining 😄

rich depot
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lol

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how is your back today?

brittle coral
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angry

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i just spent a fewh ours tryina get this working

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i think there's bad controller or cpu or ram or something

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it's ghost unstable (unidentified) and when im at the physical computer, the output to the monitor is distorted like there's some kind of error going on

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it happened when i tried installing xubuntu as well

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so it's hardware level

#

im gonna just throw in the towel on this and see if it's cheaper to source parts for my z97 board or buy a super cheap ryzen entry level setup to try running stuff in

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gonna let my back rest, my left pec is also angry i think i strained it angling the nvidia rig in and out of it's spot for days. this other one is set up to be easier to work on cause airflow wasnt as big of an issue in it anyway (less heat) but yea im spent and over it for now. it's either find spare parts or buy new ones to play with which i don't mind doing tbh

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ive been wanting to get back into dedicated distributed computing stuff for a while lol

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once i get boxes set up i can figure out ways to mooch power if my family complains later once covid research is no longer urgent

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thank god my stepdad went to stanford for computer science and understands it xD

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soooo decisions

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should i spring for a 3600x

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oooor

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get a used 2600x, then spring for a new 4800x when they come out for my main rig and cycle my 3800x into this to sell the 2600x

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i could still fold pretty well on either 🙂

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enough oompfh left over after running a few GPUs for some cpu unit time

rich depot
#

Whats your goal in folding? @brittle coral

brittle coral
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help find a cure for covid rn, then idk i might pick up a different DC program again or keep folding, idk yet for sure

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short term goal, as high of PPD as I can get without going overboard

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like just buying a pile of 2080ti would be overboard XD

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and i can't use all of the parts i currently have that can fold because i'm short on motherboard slots now

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i have a z97 board sitting as well but i think i gave the ram i had for my other z97 away with my other z97 board when i sold it (combo)

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not worth buying a CPU for its like $150-200 for a good one

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i already ordered the 2600x and a cooler, just looking for a board now lol

jade slate
#

@weak flume i guess so, i got a WU with the same amount of steps also from project 14190

weak flume
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Okay

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Thanks

brittle coral
#

@rich depot it's done. 2600x used for $100, Gigabyte x570 UD, and ordered a Hyper 212 RGB Black for my 3800x, gonna take the prism cooler and put it on the 2600x it should run cooler with 6 cores

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my friend has my second set of ram for this generation so he's buying a new kit of the same to give to me so i can have new stuff since i bought him that kit

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his hyper-controlling mother stole his memory and then i had to get him new so he could find a job to get his old back from her (amazing logic hers, the best. i have a friend who says so) but now he's rebuilding his file server using his own 2600x and needs the ram hahaha

jade slate
#

euh ok

stark bough
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are there any hardware configs that constantly get units? or is more likely to? im guessing they're older architecture

odd barn
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idk, but last night it looks like I've been getting quite a few units and I'm getting another unit as we speak

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I just have a R5 3600X and a RTX 2060

rich depot
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@brittle coral prism is better but can't keep the 2600x cool under full load without throtteling. I run at 3,8-3,9ghz with the prism

brittle coral
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thats fine lol

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the 3800x is also throttling

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if im not happy with the 212 on it i'll get a water block for the socket and clean another radiator out

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though, idk where i put my second D5 xD

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but i need a res as well, maybe i'll get the matching XD5 corsair res/pump head combo to go with my matching GPU block and use my old D5 and res for the CPU lol

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btw if anyone wants to put together a super cheap folding rig with a single GPU and a bunch of mining cards, there's p106-90 cards 3 for $100 on ebay right now. https://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOTAC-P106-90-3G-Mining-Card-3GB-GDDR5-CAUTION-No-Video-out-LIKE-Nvidia-GTX1060/264689028104?hash=item3da0b20c08%3Ag%3AjdIAAOSw99Rds7YP&LH_BIN=1

odd barn
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Interesting

brittle coral
#

yea

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assume they are used as hell, heavily mined on

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one in a lot may not work if you get several for sure

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but at that price, who cares?

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if even one of 3 works that's still cheaper than a 1060 xD

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i confirmed that the 445.75 driver loads them and lets you fold

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no hack needed

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its the same as mining, just opencl code

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at least it does on the p106-100 but it shouldn't matter which

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that's part of why i'm building out another pc with whatever cheap used or new parts i can find cause i still have one idle along with a 290x lol. tempted to test how one performs on a 1x riser to see if it hurts folding performance to badly

odd barn
#

If I remember correctly, miners were using the cheapest CPU's they could get their hands on and spending more money on the power supplies and GPU's, weren't they?

brittle coral
#

yea

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you'd buy a 1200-1600w psu

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cram a bunch of 100-150w cards on it (slot plus 6 pin) or less, and riser them out with box fans and shit cooling them. larger cards were okay but harder to cool so people preferred the smaller ones since you could scale out fast using 1x risers on a board that has 7 slots lol

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i got one such PSU off someone who had mined for $50 😄 it's powering my nvidia folding rig

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seasonic 1200w focus

odd barn
#

lol oh boy

brittle coral
#

yea i was stoked

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it was only used for a short time

sand inlet
#

Hello guys.
I've just decided to contribute to folding@home but immediately faced an issue.

I have two decent GPUs in my system (work-from-home PC, for CG/GameDev). But neither of them seem to work. They both have a "waiting for idle" status.
How do I fix it?

brittle coral
#

thats normal

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but you can do some things to add servers to your rotation to get newer units that are still in testing

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there's a mix between servers that are down right now and servers without work lol

crystal plinth
sand inlet
#

@brittle coral so this has nothing to do with the config on my system but instead caused by servers overload?

brittle coral
#

more like

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human overload

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not enough work given to the servers cause people have to participate in the work unit generation process

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what you can do is some config mods to add a flag to each slot, i can walk you through that

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might help

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and it helps them test newer WUs

crystal plinth
#

Lex's page specifically says it's working on the Coronavirus Project, how do I do that?

brittle coral
#

theres no way to filter specifically for covid projects right now

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they havent added it because they're using all their client development time on building a brand new client for us

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more modern one

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@sand inlet im gonna take some screens of how you add that flag to your slots

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at the top hit configure

sand inlet
#

@brittle coral
I'm not ready to dig into this setup that deep. I houped it would be as simple as install - basic config - ready. If idling GPUs is an expected behavior, I'll just wait for a new instructions video from Linus if it ever comes out.

brittle coral
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its not really deep digging

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it takes a minute to do

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open config to slots

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edit any slot

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scroll down and find this

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click add, add the values you see

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done

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rinse and repeat for each slot

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thats all xD

#

client-type advanced gives you test WUs, still contributes to the network, and lets them iron out potential issues with new work. may not produce the same PPD as other WUs but honestly i haven't noticed a difference

sand inlet
#

Is paused also required?
I'd love to pause the F@H client manually from time to time.

brittle coral
#

no

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thats just an automatic flag

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it'll set itself on or off as you run the client or pause it

sand inlet
#

Ok, thanks!
One more question: is there a way to set up a specific workload limit considered as "idling"?
My CPU never actually go to 0% load.

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Hm... I've set client-type setting on both GPUs and restarted the client. It seem to have no effect on their load:

smoky rose
#

Open Advanced Control

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Tab Log

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Do you have a whole lot of "No WUs available for this configuration"?

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Oh, I just noticed. GPU:2:Unsupported

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Show us all three tabs of Advanced Control. You can start it from the systray icon.

brittle coral
#

yea that's not right lol there's a config issue there

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it was showing before

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your previous screenshot had it showing

smoky rose
#

Default (Team 0): 1.6 years
Curecoin: 6.4 months
folding@evga: 4 weeks

One step forward, three steps back.

sand inlet
#

@smoky rose

Do you have a whole lot of "No WUs available for this configuration"?
Nope. There's not even a single such entry.
https://pastebin.com/RJnKcXbh

GPU:2:Unsupported
TL; DR: I already fixed that

This happened after I tried to set the flag @brittle coral mentioned. The advanced control gave me some error about "can't set up a GPU with index -1" or something, so I saved it manually setting the index to 1 and 2, respectively. Same numbers as GPUs have in the "Slots" list. As it turns out, the GPU numbering seem to be 0-based (there's no GPU with index 2), so when I re-saved them, manually setting the index back to -1, the 2nd GPU became properly detected again.

smoky rose
#

Correct, GPU index start at 0.

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Ends at 9 for a maximum of 10 GPUS

sand inlet
smoky rose
#

CPU is going. GPUs are waiting for idle.

sand inlet
#

yeah. That's the issue. IDK why they're idling.

smoky rose
#

I am not 100% sure about this but I think power slider at light = no GPU action

sand inlet
#

The 2nd GPU is literally for compute only (I render on it). It doesn't even have any monitor plugged.

smoky rose
#

Right click that folding slot and start it.

#

I have my power slider on Full.

sand inlet
#

Clicked "Fold" on GPU's RMB-menu. no change.

smoky rose
#

And the power slider?

sand inlet
#

When I set it to anything higher than Light, it causes some hiccups on my system. Especially when surfing YouTube.

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Just for test - set the slider to medium. Yeah, GPUs started to work.

smoky rose
#

Overclocked?

wraith echo
#

Why does my stats page show 4 clients when I only ever had 3?

sand inlet
#

Overclocked
GPUs - no. Memory - only XMP profile. CPU - only AMD's build-in auto-overclock. That "SenseMI" or whatever.

smoky rose
#

@sand inlet Any thermal throttling going on?

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@wraith echo Usernames are not unique. Anyone can use any name.

wraith echo
#

Mine is with p/w

smoky rose
#

Url to your stats?

wraith echo
sand inlet
#

CPU temp is about 80 C.
GPU is 76.

smoky rose
#

@wraith echo What is your total number of folding slots?

wraith echo
#

Oh, that would be 4

smoky rose
#

There you go then.

wraith echo
#

So it's counting every slot as a client. I get it now.

smoky rose
#

@sand inlet If I fold on both CPU and GPU on this laptop my whole system becomes slow. Thermal throttling. You need to check current clock speeds, not just the temperature.

sand inlet
#

I'm not on a laptop. It's a full PC. How do I check if it's throttling? I use HWiNFO

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I'll go to my BIOS to set a more aggressive cooling profile...

smoky rose
#

I use HWMonitor. It shows current, min and max clock speed of my gpu and cpu.

#

If you are having issues with your cpu you can limit the number of threads to get the temperate down some.

brittle coral
#

you can also limit the number of threads to keep your system from stuttering if that's part of the issue

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also @sand inlet you can combine that with disabling GPU acceleration in your browser to keep it from hiccuping since most modern CPUs are still more than capable of doing the work they were offloading to the GPU anyway lol

wraith echo
#

I give half the threads to FAH.

brittle coral
#

i have 12/16 set leaving 4 open for me and the GPUs to fight over. it's enough that i can game on my PC when the main GPU is also paused and not notice a difference at all

smoky rose
#

Now that you are running two Nvidia GPUs remember that they tie up 2 threads.
As long as I don't run into thermal issues I like this formula: FAH Threads = System threads -1 for system and -1 per GPU

brittle coral
#

yea nvidia GPUs seem to use more CPU time for me so far but im putting that to the test when my 2600x and new board get here lol

sand inlet
#

Hmm... After monitoring my temps I've decided to make this client work only on one of my GPUs. Is it possible?

brittle coral
#

yea you can individually pause and play from the advanced control or you can remove a slot using the slots tab in configure

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or you can underclock your GPU

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that's what i did to help with temps on my 5700xt

odd barn
#

You just have to select which one you want to stop with the three buttons

brittle coral
#

in the slots part above the work queue you can right click

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and pause and play individually

sand inlet
#

will they restart after reboot?

brittle coral
#

it's more consistent than trying to click and use the 3 buttons because they're universal if you aren't selecting anything

#

in my experience not if you shut down properly no

#

sometimes yea

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and if they were running when you reboot then yea

sand inlet
#

so removing a slot from configuration is more secure, I guess? I'll do it this way.

brittle coral
#

yes

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if you want to 100% guarantee it wont run on that card then remove the slot

#

nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure

smoky rose
#

@brittle coral Nvidia GPUs tie up threads. AMD do not. Something about interupts something something darkside.

odd barn
#

lmao

brittle coral
#

thank you for clearing that up

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ive been going on and on in here for days wondering why tf so many system resources were being used on my older rig

smoky rose
#

@sand inlet You can remove the slot you don't want to keep.

odd barn
#

3-4 more units until I break 1 million points, this is great 😄

brittle coral
#

im moving all the nvidia GPUs i can into one rig together and running the AMD cards in the slower rig once i get a chance to move everything around, might get more PPD that way

#

nice hiitchy

#

shit, i just broke 13

mild kiln
brittle coral
#

i guess it's time to go to bed and hope my WUs keep flowing i'll break 14 while im asleep if they do

mild kiln
#

7 mil folks

sand inlet
#

Hmmm... now I notice another issue. I've left only the 2nd GPU (the weaker one, 1070, the one attached to no displays).
And it seem to never go to active state. It tells it's "ready", but nothing happens from there:

odd barn
#

I really like looking at the really big antibody thing lmao

smoky rose
#

@sand inlet Check the log.

mild kiln
#

@sand inlet you might have to wait for a GPU WU to come in

smoky rose
#

Also look at the info on the right hand side.

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Waiting for, Next attempt etc.

mild kiln
#

even with the LTT server we are still at >400K users

brittle coral
#

bah wrong screen lmao

#

i cropped a new one and it didnt save

mild kiln
#

0 points to LTT

brittle coral
#

yea its been hopping team to team for a bit

#

i fold and distribute for like 5 teams

#

i was fixing stuff up and now im dedicating it all here

mild kiln
#

1070 I'm guessing a 1060 Mining Card and a 980

brittle coral
#

yup

mild kiln
#

no CPU?

brittle coral
#

i had to fluff team anandtech for a while

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no, like jo was saying nVidia rigs seem to use a ton of CPU

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1 thread per

#

and that is a 4c4t system

#

8350k

mild kiln
#

ah

#

I'm on a 9900K so I have all my CPU and GPU at like 100% load

brittle coral
#

but yea, after all the help LTT has given im throwing my weight behind the beast now

mild kiln
#

my GPU is just power throttled to 70% I think and my CPU is not at turbo

odd barn
#

folding@evga caught up

brittle coral
#

ive been trying to get other teams to push harder by flexing and being like "flex with me" but people dont wanna fold 24/7 😦

#

they weanna game and stuff xD

mild kiln
#

once my D14 arrives today or tomorrow I can enable Turbo Boost

brittle coral
#

nice

#

yea im jsut stoked to get another good CPU to do CPU WUs on lol

mild kiln
#

this 120mm rad from my pre-built is just bad

odd barn
#

I ordered a bunch of fans for my PC, hopefully this'll help my GPU and CPU a bit

mild kiln
#

and GN said so too. 120mm bad even if it's made by Acetek

#

or whatever it's spelled

odd barn
#

Asutek

#

yeah

mild kiln
#

no not the Motherboard ASUS

#

the one that make the pumps and stuff for AIOs

odd barn
#

Ah

mild kiln
#

Asetek

odd barn
#

Asetek

#

there we go

#

I knew something wasn't right lol

mild kiln
#

Asetek 500LC

#

compared to a beefy D14

odd barn
#

I'm not quite ready yet to upgrade my cooler so I'm using AMD's stock cooler

mild kiln
#

with either 1 fan or 2 but main 140 takes in air and 120 pulls air to the chassis fan

brittle coral
#

im upgrading the stock cooler, im hitting like 88c on my CPU while folding xD

#

i have a giant blower aimed at the PC to help

odd barn
#

lets see what I'm hitting

brittle coral
#

1200cfm

mild kiln
#

How it's supposed to be

Heatsink/Pipe Fan Heatsink/Pipe Fan

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Me

Fan Heatsink/Pipe Fan Heatsink/Pipe

brittle coral
#

and a 2200rpm antec fan sitting strapped to the top GPU blowing on both as well right up in their face

odd barn
mild kiln
#

from rear to front

brittle coral
#

lmao

#

i cant wait to get my water block for my 5700xt

mild kiln
#

80 C is warm but OK for Ryzen

brittle coral
#

im debating putting the CPU on water too

#

i have the parts xD

odd barn
#

If this were the bulldozer chips

brittle coral
#

just need a couple new ones

odd barn
#

I'd be ready to cook breakfast

brittle coral
#

bro im about to bring a 290x online xD

#

talk about cooking breakfast

odd barn
#

xD

brittle coral
#

though, my 5700xt is about as hot tbh

smoky rose
#

haha

brittle coral
#

it's just got a better stock cooler

#

buuuut

#

not good enough

#

so yet again, im busting out the alphacool monsta

smoky rose
#

I have a 290x. How do you cool them? I mean...no.

brittle coral
#

i have 2 of them if i REALLY want to get overkill

mild kiln
odd barn
sand inlet
brittle coral
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i had an entire 3x120 80mm thick radiator per gpu

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thats how

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jo let me take a photo of the radiator next to my thigh xD

mild kiln
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with 120mm

smoky rose
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"No WUs available for this configuration"

  1. The server is busy and can not take your call.
  2. You messed up your configuration.
  3. There are no WU matching your configuration.

It's either 1 or 3. Just wait.

mild kiln
brittle coral
mild kiln
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that thicc

brittle coral
mild kiln
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also dust ew

brittle coral
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it's still got good fans strapped to it too

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yea

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i have not cleaned it since i took it out of my haf stacker's module i dedicated to two of them

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im planning to clean it before reinstalling it tho obvs

mild kiln
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I clean my case out with a industrial air pump

brittle coral
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i need to clean out one level of the stacker again so i have room for watercooling stuff, i was using it as shelving lmao

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worked pretty good as shelving NGL

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but yea, i have 2 of these

odd barn
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I clean my case out with a leafblower

brittle coral
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and an mcr320 swiftech

odd barn
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that might be a bad idea

brittle coral
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hahaha yea

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you dont want to do that really

mild kiln
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ye

brittle coral
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the thing that's REALLY bad though

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vaccuming

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blowing air is okay

mild kiln
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there are PC vaccums

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I vaccumed a fan once but I held the fan by a blade to not spin

brittle coral
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but vacuuming apparently produces static electricity according to the A+ certification test

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yea

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if you get a special PC vac you're good

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don't use a hose vac

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house*

mild kiln
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hose

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But I wanted to use my garden hose to clean my PC

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I just realized

brittle coral
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just stick it in the dish washer

odd barn
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yeah its just blowing air

mild kiln
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if I want to add Optane

odd barn
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definitely not vacuuming though

brittle coral
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that's how i was taught to clean my keyboards by my A+ teacher xD

mild kiln
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I need to remove the D14 or RTX 2080 Ti to add it

brittle coral
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he took a vintage dell mechanical keyboard and washed it in the dish washer no soap

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came out clean

odd barn
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but did it work lmao

mild kiln
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he probably protected the USB so maybe

brittle coral
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dude i haven't even looked at what those optane drives can do

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how much faster are they than an NVMe M2 on gen4 pcie?

mild kiln
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they are supposed to speed up your game drive or such

odd barn
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they act as ram for your drives

mild kiln
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I have Gen 3 M.2 so IDK

odd barn
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if you already have a NVME SSD, there's no point

mild kiln
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also how can they be faster than NAND while their PCB looks like a Sata plug

brittle coral
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i remember when it was a big deal that they had PCI-e add in cards that let you stick sticks of DDR2 ram on them

odd barn
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If I remember correctly, they existed to help boost Hard Drives

brittle coral
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you could have a 64gb DDR2 ram card in a slot as a drive

mild kiln
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I have 4 GB of DDR2 laying around

brittle coral
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this is when the only game in town for SSDs was intel and indilinx, samsung hadn't come out with theirs yet, and sandisk were garbage

mild kiln
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except SD SSDs

brittle coral
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the scary thing is, these optane drives are probably about as fast

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xD

odd barn
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I remember my first Intel SSD

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that thing was pretty great

mild kiln
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I never owned a SSD till 2019

brittle coral
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and yea, i even have an NVMe drive in my folding rig now

odd barn
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I have a 970 evo 500gb nvme in my PC, but that's because the difference between the 500gb and 1tb is $200

brittle coral
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i got an 860 evo 500gb because the 120gb evo 840 was grinding to ah alt so i needed a new one to image it to and secure erase

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WHATA

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what

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i got my first SSD in 2009 xD

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you ahve been missing out

mild kiln
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yes

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I am a very very young adopter

brittle coral
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honestly, its the biggest upgrade you can make to system performance, but now that you have one you know 🙂

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so great!

odd barn
mild kiln
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I had always ran Windows on a platter

brittle coral
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ughhhhh i still have my 10krpm WD velociraptor

mild kiln
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it is slow once you at the desktop but it speeds up quick afterwards

brittle coral
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150gb single platter

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that drive is embarassingly slow

mild kiln
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It thas a 5400 1 TB Drive

smoky rose
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[Canada version] 🙂

odd barn
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good old single platters

brittle coral
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i have USB3 sticks that are faster than it xD

odd barn
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Lol yeah, because Samsung was selling US version drives with the US warranty in Canada

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and when their drives failed, you couldn't warranty them

mild kiln
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But Warranty

brittle coral
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the velociraptor was only done single and dual platter lol. performance over capacity

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it was also the only 10krpm consumer drive ever besides the previous raptor drives from them

odd barn
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That reminds me, I saw a 7200RPM drive that had 80GB on it

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that made me laugh

mild kiln
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I want one of those 10k RPM drives

brittle coral
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in 32 and 74gb xD

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my first hd was 30gb

odd barn
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Just get a bunch of SAS drives

brittle coral
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in 2011

odd barn
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15000 RPM

brittle coral
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even those aren't as fast as a good SSD

mild kiln
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my first HDD was 80 or 160 GB but it was IDE or SATA

odd barn
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I had a really old server with about 16 SAS drives in it. Thing was as loud as my current car's engine

brittle coral
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SAS drives are great for integrity of data and sequential read, they're what most of the streaming media in the world runs off of

mild kiln
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Jake be here laughing over me getting a SSD for the 1st time in 2019

odd barn
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Oh did I ever tell u guys how I told jake to STFU once

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lmao

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He didn't even mute me

brittle coral
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wait which jake

odd barn
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LTT jake

mild kiln
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probably thought you were joking with him'

brittle coral
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lmao probably

mild kiln
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also what is it with .gg sites

sand inlet
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@smoky rose

  1. You messed up your configuration.
    Couuld it also be the case? But I have no idea, what I could possibly have misconfigured.
    On the one hand, when I render, this GPU is successfully detected and significantly speeds up render time.
    On the other hand, many years ago, when I was mining, I had to manually craft a physical fake-display plug and attach it to any monitor port to make GPU available. It's something about Windows putting GPUs with no displays to some sleeping mode.
    But, again, my render works just fine with no jumps through hoops.
mild kiln
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like everyone uses it

brittle coral
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anyway, sleep time for me guys

odd barn
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Lol, I was

brittle coral
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its 8:30am and i wanted to be in bed 30m ago

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LMFAO

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yea

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that reads like our teamspeak banter

smoky rose
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@sand inlet You are in good company with the rest of us if you are waiting for a GPU WU. Do not expect to get one only because you ask for one.

brittle coral
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our discord is less tame

odd barn
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Imagine getting a GPU WU by asking for it though

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as if it were to come out of thin air

smoky rose
brittle coral
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snap

mild kiln
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I saw a teamspeak server link in announcements but since it was April 1st avoided itr

brittle coral
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depending on how fast the cards are i'll have to play with that value

mild kiln
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not gonna get april fool'd by LMG

brittle coral
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lol

smoky rose
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Worst thing that happen is you actually get a new WU when you are at 90% with the current one.

brittle coral
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if people ever want a place to use high quality voice in a teamspeak server poke me, i help admin our outfit's server and we've got an unlimited person cap

odd barn
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yeah, I just let F@H get it when it's ready

smoky rose
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It happens once every blue moon.

brittle coral
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yea right lol

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ive been having them pop in pretty fast on one or 2 cards if im super lucky but usually nah

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im gonna set it to 95% on the faster cards though

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and like

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90% on the slower ones

odd barn
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When I left my PC on last night, it was getting units left and right

brittle coral
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14549 spat out a bunch

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thats why

odd barn
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oooh

brittle coral
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ive been running 14549 all night

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runs super slow on my AMD cards for some reason but blazes on the nvidia

odd barn
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11747 was doing a lot for me

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but thats a GPU WU

sand inlet
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@smoky rose OK. Thanks for all the help. I'l leave it working then.
Is there some tool displaying a graph of worlkload during time?

brittle coral
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this unit runs great on amd tho

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thats my underclocked 5700xt

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damn near 1m on its own

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usually gets 700kish

odd barn
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lol oh boy

smoky rose
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Left hand side, search, change TeamID to User Name.

brittle coral
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alright guys

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im sleeping

odd barn
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Good night

brittle coral
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here's to 1m to LTT by the time i wake up

odd barn
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or morning

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idk lmao

brittle coral
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sleep is when i put my face in bed

mild kiln
brittle coral
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not when the sun rises

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gonna set those flags jo showed us and hop off eventually

mild kiln
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top 4.2K on LTT Whoop Whoop

odd barn
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I also have a quick question, if my PC is pulling 0.3 kWh, that means every 24 hours it uses approximately 7.2kWh, right?

mild kiln
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Top 38 K for all FAH

sand inlet
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@smoky rose just for test - I've re-added my main 2070 and almost immediately it got it's WU. While my 1070 is still "ready".

smoky rose
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Different performance, different work units.

sand inlet
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ah, ok

brittle coral
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Does performance really affect what you can get?

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It doesn't seem to much like they pick the faster cards over slower

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I've def had my rx580 get work before the 5700xt a few times when they're both idle

sand inlet
mild kiln
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only mine

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mine likes Myosins

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CPU likes COVID

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my dad thinks it's gaming though which restricts how much time I can fold

smoky rose
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GPU goes looking for sites in the protein chains where drugs can interact.
CPU runs different drug candidates against the sites.

sand inlet
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BTW, sicne I already got into LTT server...

Can anyone tell what's the safe temps for my CPU and GPUs?
Of cource, I googled it, but there are a plenty of controversial suggestions on the subject.

CPU: Ryzen 2700x
GPU1: GTX 1070
GPU2: RTX 2070 (regular, not super)

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From what I've found, temps below 85 C should be fine. Some say it's even 90. But both of these seem too high for me.

As for GPUs - some say 90 is OK while others say even 80 is hot as hell.

smoky rose
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If you can do your bbq off of the computer it is time to start worrying.

odd barn
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I wish I could BBQ off my PC

mild kiln
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lol

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PS3 grill

odd barn
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yup

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not knocking them but I think it's humorous

mild kiln
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There was a PS3 FAH though

sand inlet
smoky rose
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For my desktop computers I have never accepted high temperatures. I always throw borderline overkill cooling on them.

mild kiln
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why does Apple still use intel if they thermal throttle a lot and Ryzen is now far better

odd barn
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Because they signed contracts

mild kiln
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oh wait

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my D14 is arriving Monday

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forgot Sunday USPS is closed

sand inlet
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@smoky rose ...and what specific temp do you consider "high"?

odd barn
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Also it's a whole separate architecture they have to adapt to, since the majority if not all their apps are optimized for Intel based systems

smoky rose
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It varies. Thermal throttle = most def high

mild kiln
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why are most USPS places rated so badly

smoky rose
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If I can keep it 20c below that I'm happy.

sand inlet
brittle coral
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jo i agree

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20c under max is ideal

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lex if you're 5c under your max and you are not at the hottest your room may get

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thats a problem waiting to happen

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over time that temp will drift up as your TIM between cooler and CPU ages or the heat pipes slowly lose their ability to move heat as they age (happens slowly but it does happen)

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and the cooler you run you gear the longer it will generally live, all other things equal

rich depot
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@odd barn you can make jerky with 70c

odd barn
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that sounds delicious

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low and slow is the way to go

rich depot
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yeah

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just make sure they don't drip on your pcb

brittle coral
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ive done it before

rich depot
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Making jerky, making jerky inside your pc or dripping juice on your pcb?

brittle coral
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the one time i crammed all 4 5870s in one rig together with basically no room to breathe, and i piped air in through the tiniest of gaps using a blower

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the exhaust from all 4 was piped into another shroud

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and i hung meat in it

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and then it pumped that air (carbon and hepa filtered) into the rest of the air circulation for the house so it was basically always warm

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was at a friend's place where i was mooching power since he had all solar and his heating was electric anyway, he built the system for me to dump heat so we could double up on the rig's usefulness

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and then the jerky drying rig was a later addition

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now you can buy single cards that are 2-4x as fast as that whole rig

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@smoky rose that trick worked btw. my gpus tat are at 95 and 97% around the same time both were set to those % for early WUs and they both got one already queued up

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and my 980ti already got another as well

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and is firing through it

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8%

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everything is running 😄

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14549 again

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all of them

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they are really spitting those units out fast

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they must have uploaded a bunch more in the last few hours

rich depot
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it does look like they added a few extra servers, but the assign rate is still fairly low

odd barn
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I'm okay with the assign rate being fairly low, but I've chalked it up to the amount of hardware people have and the amount of WU's going out to everyone that has hardware ready to run it

rich depot
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how do you mean?

odd barn
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Given that there are plenty of people with hardware ready to do WU's, and some of them searching servers to get WU's done, it's possible that we're oversaturating the servers with our hardware. So even when and if they add a new server and make it available to distribute WU's, how long would it take for all of our hardware, collectively, to saturate the new server?

rich depot
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oh

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well, in theory instantly

odd barn
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I don't quite understand how the servers work, in that they distribute units to a PC's hardware that is available, but my theory is just that we have so much hardware, that F@H really needs more server throughput

rich depot
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thats not your theory, thats the truth

brittle coral
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not quite instantly

odd barn
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Oh boy

brittle coral
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the calls for WUs go out regularly

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progressively longer

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thats why after 1hr no WU its recommended to pause and restart the slot

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it makes it call for work

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btw

rich depot
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true, but I'm pretty sure we are so oversaturated with pc's that at any given moment there are a few thousand slots asking for work

brittle coral
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i switched over around 8:35 to LTT folding team in full right

rich depot
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well, say every 5 minutes

brittle coral
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im already 285912 contributed

rich depot
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nice

odd barn
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lmao

brittle coral
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ytea

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i had like 4 WUs complete right before i did

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er right after i did

odd barn
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I've been getting WU's pretty much all day today so I'm pretty happy about that

rich depot
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we need more people folding for ltt, we are doing not so great the last day

brittle coral
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yea thats why i hopped over

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when the big teams drop everyone drops

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i was flexing on small teams before tryina get them to compete more but now im over it xD

odd barn
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Seems like it all dropped because everyone got their hydro bills

rich depot
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lol

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nah, the biggest reason it dropped is because of way more cpu wu's than gpu wu's. and like one of the 2 main servers has been down today, cutting the assign rate in half