#folding-and-boinc
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Oh I see, you need to go to donor stats, not team stats
How long have you been folding for?
like a month on and off
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/375436621450969089/695946997613592576/unknown.png
thats a screenshot from like a week ago
now it says im not in a team and ive got no points...
Can you check your folding name in your client, you can just click your folding name in the advanced client btw
The advanced client can be opened by typing FAHcontrol in the start menu
okay, click your name on the client, highlighted here
Hmm... weird... could be the stats server being weird, can you find yourself on EOC?
F@H stats search page. Help Folding at Home fight Coronavirus, further medical research, and prevent diseases with distributed computing!
I looked. Nopes.
do i have a user id?
you should have
hmm...
I'd hit up the folding forum if you haven't shown up after a month tbh
@honest silo something just came to me, did you enter a new passkey when you reinstalled the client?
As in, did you generate a new one, not just reenter the one you used before
If you request a passkey with the same username + email you will always get the same passkey returned to you.
Anyone know how I can limit the amount of cpu cores being used on F@H? I'd rather not have my Ryzen 2600 pinged at 100% all the time, maybe allow it to use 6 of my 12 cores.
Open Advanced Control, Configure, Slots
CPU, Edit
So under the cpu portion just put the number of threads it can use?
Current setting is -1
-1 = client decides
You can set it to whatever you want. Kinda.
You can enter any number from 1 to the number of threads your CPU supports.
If you have GPUs, F@H reserves one CPU per GPU to feed it data across the PCIE bus.
F@H has difficulty with large primes and their multiples number of CPUs.
7 is always large, 5 is sometimes large, and 3 is never large. Try to choose a number that is a multiple of 2 and/or 3.
2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 12, 16, 18, 24, 27, etc. are good numbers of CPUs to choose.
5. 10. 15, 20 etc may work most of the time. Other numbers will bite you.```
Gotcha, changed it to 6 and it seems to be working per utilization in task manager. Thanks!
@smoky rose my thinking was if he didn't have a passkey before that could wipe his previous points
But yeah, was not very good at explaining that, should have asked if he used the same email for his passkey but meh, I'm tired
But can the points be wiped? If you set a username but not a passkey. Do that username get the points?
True... I know they don't always count towards your new total sometimes but they should still be on the stats server... Hmm...
They will show up on EOC only if you are in one of the top 12 000 teams.
Usernames are not unique. If you use the same username you should, worst case, see two different entries.
I just saw a maserati at the grocery. That's some daily driver there bud
Why were you outside
grocery
Weak. Just eat TP
Eat money
exactly
The county I lived in less than a year ago have had 4205 confirmed cases, 213 at ICU and 523 dead.
It's much better where I live now. 73 cases, 8 ICU, 1 dead.
Going to the grocery store is not really an issue here. Well, wouldn't be if people could learn to keep their damn distance.
where do you live now?
Once people are in the grocery stores they forget about social distancing because they're so focused on going everywhere and touching EVERYTHING
"I see dead people. Well, technically they are stupid people but give me fifteen minutes."
That's how I feel when I tell people to keep their distance and they reply "But I'm not sick."
😂
Last time i was out i experienced coofing
Once people are in the grocery stores they forget about social distancing because they're so focused on going everywhere and touching EVERYTHING
@odd barn
I can feel the boredom. Its palatable.
coofing?
hahaha
Ok. Google "coofing" and you can imagine the face I made.
https://www.reddit.com/r/JustAFluBro/comments/fi8cdu/the_24_year_old_coofer/
I kno rite. First result is o.0
Also this is now a subreddit.
First result for me was drugs related.
This seasons norovirus died out 7 weeks earlier here. Washing of hands is thing. Who knew.
All people needed to do was wash their hands, cough into their sleeves, and stay home if they're sick. Yet most of society is selfish and has no idea what to do with themselves.
That and all the damn facebook/twitter experts drives me nuts.
Also they dont like to be told what to do. Even if its just “be nice”
Darn. Couldnt hold rank 1,000
Team or overall rank?
okay, after all these hiccups, I'm ready to start folding again
4.04 WUs not found
lol
That or I could find an upload
Off topic sorta. Looking for an AMD MB that can handle as many GPU's as possible to build a dedicated FAH any thoughts?
W10 or linux doesnt matter
You will get better performance, higher PPD in Linux.
So are you looking to build a 10 GPU machine or something lighter like 4 GPUs?
10, but havent found anything larger than 8
If you're building a dedi FAH, you're gonna get much better performance running a headless OS like Linux
any more resources means a decrease in performance
4.03,4.04 is probably what knocked me out of therunning
Supermicro GPU systems offer industry leading affordability & processing power for HPC, Machine Learning, and AI workloads. Up to 20 GPUs and 24 DIMM slots per node with NVMe SSD support.
I have not kept up with the AMD cpus lately but I would to Xeon for that build.
Xeons to be specific.
My PC is currently putting out 0.333kWh, and the rate here is 0.10 cents, that's really not bad, isn't it
Ours is double that but we got solar
Linux seems to work better. My Linux headless doesn’t seam to stop running WUs
Not bad at all
Plus we need the heat anyway
Solar definitely offsets the costs of what you're doing then anyway
I actually get ‘complaints’ that the house is cold if i dont run it
The SYS-4029GP-TRT2 GPU system is optimized for AI, deep learning, and/or HPC applications with support of the latest GPU interconnect technologies including NVIDIA® NVLink™.
There you go.
oh wow
Its sitting in a living room with a faulted ceiling
Should I just stick to Corsair for fans
27.99 CAD for a pack of 5
@smoky rose @odd barn Thanks
You won't put an AMD cpu in that one but as far as I know what you want doesn't really make it into the equation when you are putting 10 GPUs in one machine.
The one exhaust fan I have in the back of my case currently can't even keep up with regular airflow, so it feels like nothing is coming out @stark bough
@rough kiln There are "bitcoin mining motherboards" too if you don't want to purchase a server. But that will involve risers and I don't know if folding and risers work.
ok
These are my favorite to look at but obviously not for too long of course
@smoky rose these boards only limit the pci bandwith since gpu mining can sufficiently run on pci x4
since gpu mining is opencl , and folding at home is opencl you can use them for folding.
but I would not recommend it unless you got the proper case and air throput 😛
I would not recommend it. Period.
But the supermicros come with a hefty pricetag so I do understand those who go with consumer hardware and risers.
@odd barn ive gone higher positive pressure for folding.
i replaced my one rear fan with a a12x25
I just dont want to waste money on fans and buy the wrong thing
temps seem to be down but for the most part the noise level is MUCH more tolerable
well not noise level, more like sound profile.
i dont mind something being audible as long as the sound is pleasant
nor do I
I've had a few PC's in the past that have sounded like planes taking off
all because they had like 12 fans all running at 2000 RPM
asmr fans?
I'm not gonna lie though, this R5 3600X is doing much better than my old CPU
I have a $20 wal mart fan and a $210 air purifier.
set to the same DB. one i can sleep though. the other is intoerable from the other room
@odd barn well crap. PV had a fault and stopped producing for 3 days

is it possible for a WU to fail if it gets interuppted?
because there was a power outage here
and it knocked out both my folding systems
it should restart from the last good save point
hmm good
8 work units on the Mac Pro.
Heated the room to a toasty 74°F/23.3°C, with all 4 cores at 100°F/37.8°C. Opened some windows, and a nice breeze helped bring all the temps down, especially the PSU from 154°F/67.8°C to 120°F/48.9°C
PSU is 980 watts, so if the CPU’s are all at max, it’ll definitely warm up.
mac pro's are essentially huge heatsinks anyways aren't they
they are well cooled but the alu outer chassis is only so helpful when the inside is still the same plastic and steel construction most cases are
they just perform well because of good channel airflow and such
not really a lot of dead spots heat can accumulate in the case, which is how you get the best heat transmission into the metal of the case itself lol
Lol. I’ve been actively ventilating my living room, then the WU ended and now it’s cold again
@storm talon it’s the old, pre-cylinder design.
ah
That said, the case metal does actually provide some cooling effect for the areas around the CPU, PSU, and back of the logic board.
yea back of the board is the biggest impact for sure
that's one area that's always been overlooked in case cooling of standard ATX designs (ie not mod boxes with multiple chambers)
The non-door side has minimal air flow, but the aluminium is conductive & thick enough to provide some radiant effect for the air in that space.
one project I saw a watercooling nerd do was build a waterblock for the entire back of the board. he basically seated the entire board on short risers and used a super sized thermal pad grid to pull heat off of it there. the block used the hot water outtake from the rest of the loop and it still helped things like VRM temps and such
cost a ton to do but since it was for the case it was a 1 time and forget it job 😄
This case is designed with high flow in mind, however the rear fan only has a small & indirect path for air to come from behind the logic board at the very bottom. Beneath the RAM riser cards.
i wish i could transfer WUs between cards ugh
i have a competition event soon and i have a WU that's going slower than i'd like on my 5700xt thats underclocked for temp reasons. my 980ti is idle and i have a gaming event starting in 30 minutes that the 5700xt is gonna power xD
First world problems
first world problems are real now
Wish I had that 12 core Mac Pro with 32 gig ram, 4 5 tb hard drives, mint 19 on one, windows 7 & 10 on one, Mac OS 10.6/7/8 on one & whatever the newest one it can run by itself on one hd. Then i would put in a usb 3.1 4 port card with two type A & two type C. Then i would have the best graphics card that works without any fiddling.
Ah well.
Stuck with the first gen 1.1 dual 5150 2.66 ghz & 6 gig ram
I’ve set each slot to run 7 threads each. Currently running 600% of cpu capacity -mad scientist laugh- 😑
Do the slots actually run with 7 threads or do they drop down to 6?
LOL
now if they can just keep feeding my 1080ti with work >.> it's sittign ide about 70% of the time cause there is no WU T^T
my boss made me use our company name because i'm using company resources lol
how long u been folding?
on and off since i got PS3
ye
but i have 4 pc going
I have 24 vm's going
nice
hehe
trying to convince cancercomputer to throw some rosetta power over to my folding
we host 2 of their nodes yea
i am trying to convice the IT at my work to let me use our servers
oh lol, I thought you were like competing with cancercomputer.ca
I cant disclose where i work but we CC and us are mortal enemies 😄
yeah i mean Canada computers
yea no, we good
if I want a 15 year old to screw up my ram install I will go to cancom
I returned a b450 matx cause it was a bit too big from my case, and they denied it cause there was "bent pins"
I had to talk to a "manager"
there are no pins on amd boards bud
if I didn't know better I'd be out 300 bucks
my company got the memo to check AMD socket pins from now on
orly? shit
lift the lever up and you cn see the pings through the socket
ya it's a zif but if you jam a ... whatever down there they can be damaged
yeah
not like the intel boards
i knwo for sure Gigabyte is starting to throw a stink
Asus sent out memo yesterday
MSI nothing yet
so gotta be acrefulw ith AMD boards now too
other than firmware updates i have not had a single issue... I am noticing some usb issues tho
haha i am sitting on a pile of Intel machines, my sext one will likely be ADM
if I plug in my wired headphones into the front jack it turns off my second monitor for a second... I think I need a new case
I haven't used intel in years... amd is just better
for what i do Inetl have been the champ for a while
until zen 2
dear god zen 2 destoryed Intel
about friken time too
i am so sick of how smug the intel rep is everytime he stops by my store
Zen 2 wipe the smugness off nice a quick
the only real complains i hear about is is the x570 chipset, pcie 4.0, and that 3000 doesnt have quite the gains in freq OC'ing.
for people that like hardware Zen 1 was a mess, the average user just dont have the know how.
Zen 2 on the other hand dam boi it took over all the sale for a good few months
zen 1 was an absolute dumpster fire
in think in the alst 4 months 4 I9 move off the shelf
but we can barely keep R9 in stock to save our life
imho people are just angry that mem oc'ing and fclk gains more than cpu ocing.
I record and stream and since I upgraded to the 2600x it's been nothing but a pleasure
I almost bought a 3900x on black friday for 399
im planning on retiring my 3700x to a mitx case for my brother to use for gaming.
haha
get the next 3900x equivalent for 4000 series.
imagine using up an entire CCX for background folding.
well i am liekly to get 4900x if not 4950x, but more likely 4900x
LOL
i am use i can stick half of the CPU on full time Folding and still game just fine
i love that AMD now has enough cashflow to really release things on its own schedule.
amd always had that tho
Zen 1 you can really feel like they had to get it out the door right away
tweek the scheduler a bit have have folding rum in the back ground on 2 dies
they're just trolling intel at this point
just get cashflow NOW< even with a half baked memory controller.
the amount of Mobo that got bricked during Bios flash due to ram LOL
i think my RMA guy wanted to cry aftre the first 2 weeks
that before i figured out whats safe to flash Bios With
cause the QVL list was useless
dude. imagine if zen1 came out at the same time as the mining crazy and memory price fixing.
LOL
no
please no
zen one was a absolute nightmare for me
the amount of OMG WHY DIDNT YOU TELL ME THIS RAM WILL BRICK MY BOARD!
well
does 1600AF not have the memory issues?
you never told us which CPU or Mobo you had....
they all did
and depending on the bloody Mobo
they have issues with different RAM
Q%##@RFA^TGW$%&$#A@4
I spent 18 years doing it for the military
funny to stop once in a while, than i relaise oh wait i got to deal wihtt hat too.... than it's just sad form there on out
haha
oh thge military
the ancient equipment
my Friend in the navy will not stop bit******* about that, and he has been retired for over 1o years
LOL
No you don't understand, there is WAY worst on the destroyer he was on, he was in Bush senior's war
and right after he refuse to re up his enlistment and married a JPN girl and lived in JPN since
lol
Oki?
the military is sepical
or Yokosuka?
the military does not upgrade anything unless they have to
I can't say which project, it's classified
Floppy disk anyone, and i mean the actually floppy floppy disk
ever have problems with people leaving the military, thinking they know an OS/software, and when they get out and try to transition to civilian life, they find that the version of software they gotten used to is no longer used anywhere else?
my first pc was a vic20 with a tape drive
O.o should i call you grandpa?
I dont understand this. you said it was word
yes I have actually Mobius. My qualifications are all in Solaris and shit
Its the same software, they just updated the UI.
LOL
they just used jdk
oh god the pain of explaining that to Customers, the older once...
and ported to intel
I was trying to save my document, where di everything go?
"its not a drop down anymore, they cover up everything when you want to save"
turning 41 this year I'm farting dust
it's old for msot of the discord communities I freuqnet
okay mroe than 1 hand but still
Its the button that everyone who is no longer in high school you can hit
it's nice to have some adults around that can speak properly
reminding everyone that you are old.
enjoy your 30's my dude
it's old for msot of the discord communities I freuqnet
@storm talon
wHy doNt U fInD mY mEmEs fUnNy
ahahahaha
30's? lol i didnt even finish my 20s.
and by that i mean 'I didnt finish all the checkpoints i needed to complete in my 20s'
the whole 'getting married setlting down and owning a 3 story house' deal
idk I had a blast in my 20's
enjoy your 30's my dude
@storm talon Nah can't do suffering tech support hell, and being a chick you wont believe how many people ignore my advice until they realise i am the friken manager
oh yea screw that I didn't have kids in til I was 32
@storm talon I was guilted into not focusing into marrage and being married by the time i was 22. The "old economy steve" was real for me.
haha i will start family.... in my late 30s.... i can feel my mom's death glare from the other side of the world
yea, totally understandable... A few of my ex's tried pressuring me in to it and I'm like nah
mom wanted me married like ten years ago
Asian mentality
I had 2 kids, boy and girl with my ex
we're "co-parenting" rn
that's the new thing
sorry mom i grew up in Canada and that Shi*** dont fly with us 😄
Asian mentality
@plain geyser
Did you also grow up with the idea that 'your parents suffered, and that you owe them grandkids and a new house by the time you are 25? And that also you are their retirement plan?'
you know you're in you're ex's good books when she shows up with a 6pack of heineken tall boys and a couple steaks and says happy easter lol
steaks are long gone but them beers are lookin hella cold rn
Being an Asian kid growing up in North America to asian parents be like = Being told you have lack of appreciation and constant guilt.
@plain geyser
Did you also grow up with the idea that 'your parents suffered, and that you owe them grandkids and a new house by the time you are 25? And that also you are their retirement plan?'
@stark bough Something along this line yes.
that must be rough on the self esteem
most of the time I'm living with my older relatives taking care of the small things.
my daughter asked me tonight if she could bake cookies for dinner
i was like hell yea
lol have fun with that.
thankfully My brother is their retirement plan cause it's tradition that the son take careof the parents 😄
i am just the no good daughter that refuse to get married >.>
Im sure their idea of me was "become a sucessful doctor, make $210k a year, and send everyone related to me a check of $40k a year so they can live their best life whie at the same time finding an attractive rich person to marry and have 4 kids"
LOL
they tried match making once, i think i scare the dude away cause i am an un apologetic nerd
may have bored him to death on purpose but hey, they can't say i didn't participate
As the 'responsible one', I had to focus on housekeeping, maitenance, anc chores.
had a grandmother call me a 'woman' for knoing how to cook and clean
'just marry someone who can handle that. your job is to bring in the money'
my brother cant cook his way out of a TV dinner
8 years later im literally doing that for boomers.
lol
my daughter asked me tonight if she could bake cookies for dinner
@storm talon humm i mgiht need to make some cookies now
lack of long term care means they appreciate the company.
cause i now crave cookies
and also the occasional lecture about how 'I should be happy to be in their house.'
Its either "marry a white person and improve your social status" or "Only marry someone of our background so they know how to be respectful"
yolo
im sure Yvonne's parents were disappointed in choosing a 'white boy who wore earings and failed math' while their daughter was a 'sucessful costco pharmacist'
Linus's early days were really interesting.
WAN show and livestreams talk about how he was this guy in her girlfriends basement unboxing products for videos for NCIX while her parents 'tolerated' him
lol yeah
For his cohort though. Linus started a family and got married like REALLY young.
Look at James and Luke for comparison.
they are just getting started. kids not even 1 year old. Luke is expecting his first twins.
well my current BF is Puertorican (SP/Word?)
mom and dad never met him 😄
i can imagine the sit donw talk they will give me already
lol i was seeing this tall blonde girl for a whole into MOBAs. ended about 6 years ago. to this day I keep on getting asked about her.
Got off social media cause people focused way too much on looks for a couple.
my requirement must like camping and hiking, and can appreciate me nerding out on things 😄
lol same.
ended up breaking up a relationship cause they just couldnt understand how sometimes i needed to 'drop things' because of prior obligations.
ever have an arguments with a boomer about how, no. its not a good thing that your electronics are hot.
"You need to take it out of your closet, its way too warm in there"
"Well, they run better when they're hot, why else would it make so much heat"
at least 3 times ive ran into a situation where their 'dvr's were no longer playing their recordings.
turns out their hard drives died, either to excessive heat or vibration, and it was simply unfamtomable that their data was just 'gone'
as if their cable news recordings, or pay per view subscriptions were 'cloud based' like netflix
Makes you wonder what drives they were using
I had a chain company contract my company to figure out why all their drives on their Camera NVR’s were dying after 6 months of them getting the NVR’s. We get on site and go through the specs. Turns out they had asked for either purple, black, or red WD drives. They got either green or blue WD drives. These drives were recording 24/7. I just shook my head, replaced the drives and it cost them about $25,000 worth of drives because whoever installed the system clearly wasn’t competent enough to know the difference
Haven’t heard from the company since
yea those companies are the best lol
you wont hear from them for years and then they'll fuck something major like that up and you'll walk away with a huge payday due to their incompetence. they'll resent you for taking so much of their money and then immediately remember you solved their problem last time so we might as well call again!
or in management speak; "IT department doesn't generate income" .......😒
Press F to pay respects to these loyal soldiers. They saw many years of battle and work in the mines. The 7950 had seen death and returned to fight again but has loaded his last driver no more. Hope the e-waste pile is good to ya
holy shit, what happened with F@H?
Assign rate is down from 135k to 55k
also @brittle coral use them as epower
Could be why I can't get a GPU WU
oof
yea i am running at partial strength as well
one of 3 slots is missing a WU on my desktop, the 3 gpu folder's monitor isn't connected so i can't VNC in but earlier it was missing work as well
im swapping coolers on my CPU in the 3rd one
i had a lapped megahalems in there but it didn't have a fan and i forgot to plug in the system fan by it apparently. didn't notice till i was half way through taking it off, at which point i remembered i'd lapped it and it's the best air cooler i own. may swap out the stock cooler on my 3800x if i can get an AM4 bracket for it
i spent 8 hours lapping that damn cooler i better use it again sometime xD
i'd forgotten about it since i'd used water on the 2 rigs after it
well i got a 6 hour CPU WU and a more normal 1 hour GPU WU
Why aren't sometime jobs for my hardware in f@h?
@keen hill because the amount of people folding has gone up like 20 times in a short period of time. they are adding server capacity but its not that easy
so overload?
yes
it has been better the last few days though, compared to 2 weeks ago. but its still not perfect
but its a good problem. better have to many folders than to many servers
How normal is it to get a CPU WU with 1.25M steps on it? Project is 14190
man
i pulled this 38mm fan out of an old bitcoin miner from 2012, it sounds like a jet starting up
it's so powerful i cut off a tiny tip of my knuckle and i took the fan grilles from the miner and stuck them on it to protect it and myself xD. i destroyed the last fan in there with a cable that took one of its fins off. now to see if i can get this final rig mining 😄
angry
i just spent a fewh ours tryina get this working
i think there's bad controller or cpu or ram or something
it's ghost unstable (unidentified) and when im at the physical computer, the output to the monitor is distorted like there's some kind of error going on
it happened when i tried installing xubuntu as well
so it's hardware level
im gonna just throw in the towel on this and see if it's cheaper to source parts for my z97 board or buy a super cheap ryzen entry level setup to try running stuff in
gonna let my back rest, my left pec is also angry i think i strained it angling the nvidia rig in and out of it's spot for days. this other one is set up to be easier to work on cause airflow wasnt as big of an issue in it anyway (less heat) but yea im spent and over it for now. it's either find spare parts or buy new ones to play with which i don't mind doing tbh
ive been wanting to get back into dedicated distributed computing stuff for a while lol
once i get boxes set up i can figure out ways to mooch power if my family complains later once covid research is no longer urgent
thank god my stepdad went to stanford for computer science and understands it xD
soooo decisions
should i spring for a 3600x
oooor
get a used 2600x, then spring for a new 4800x when they come out for my main rig and cycle my 3800x into this to sell the 2600x
i could still fold pretty well on either 🙂
enough oompfh left over after running a few GPUs for some cpu unit time
Whats your goal in folding? @brittle coral
help find a cure for covid rn, then idk i might pick up a different DC program again or keep folding, idk yet for sure
short term goal, as high of PPD as I can get without going overboard
like just buying a pile of 2080ti would be overboard XD
and i can't use all of the parts i currently have that can fold because i'm short on motherboard slots now
i have a z97 board sitting as well but i think i gave the ram i had for my other z97 away with my other z97 board when i sold it (combo)
not worth buying a CPU for its like $150-200 for a good one
i already ordered the 2600x and a cooler, just looking for a board now lol
@weak flume i guess so, i got a WU with the same amount of steps also from project 14190
@rich depot it's done. 2600x used for $100, Gigabyte x570 UD, and ordered a Hyper 212 RGB Black for my 3800x, gonna take the prism cooler and put it on the 2600x it should run cooler with 6 cores
my friend has my second set of ram for this generation so he's buying a new kit of the same to give to me so i can have new stuff since i bought him that kit
his hyper-controlling mother stole his memory and then i had to get him new so he could find a job to get his old back from her (amazing logic hers, the best. i have a friend who says so) but now he's rebuilding his file server using his own 2600x and needs the ram hahaha
euh ok
are there any hardware configs that constantly get units? or is more likely to? im guessing they're older architecture
idk, but last night it looks like I've been getting quite a few units and I'm getting another unit as we speak
I just have a R5 3600X and a RTX 2060
@brittle coral prism is better but can't keep the 2600x cool under full load without throtteling. I run at 3,8-3,9ghz with the prism
thats fine lol
the 3800x is also throttling
if im not happy with the 212 on it i'll get a water block for the socket and clean another radiator out
though, idk where i put my second D5 xD
but i need a res as well, maybe i'll get the matching XD5 corsair res/pump head combo to go with my matching GPU block and use my old D5 and res for the CPU lol
btw if anyone wants to put together a super cheap folding rig with a single GPU and a bunch of mining cards, there's p106-90 cards 3 for $100 on ebay right now. https://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOTAC-P106-90-3G-Mining-Card-3GB-GDDR5-CAUTION-No-Video-out-LIKE-Nvidia-GTX1060/264689028104?hash=item3da0b20c08%3Ag%3AjdIAAOSw99Rds7YP&LH_BIN=1
Interesting
yea
assume they are used as hell, heavily mined on
one in a lot may not work if you get several for sure
but at that price, who cares?
if even one of 3 works that's still cheaper than a 1060 xD
i confirmed that the 445.75 driver loads them and lets you fold
no hack needed
its the same as mining, just opencl code
at least it does on the p106-100 but it shouldn't matter which
that's part of why i'm building out another pc with whatever cheap used or new parts i can find cause i still have one idle along with a 290x lol. tempted to test how one performs on a 1x riser to see if it hurts folding performance to badly
If I remember correctly, miners were using the cheapest CPU's they could get their hands on and spending more money on the power supplies and GPU's, weren't they?
yea
you'd buy a 1200-1600w psu
cram a bunch of 100-150w cards on it (slot plus 6 pin) or less, and riser them out with box fans and shit cooling them. larger cards were okay but harder to cool so people preferred the smaller ones since you could scale out fast using 1x risers on a board that has 7 slots lol
i got one such PSU off someone who had mined for $50 😄 it's powering my nvidia folding rig
seasonic 1200w focus
lol oh boy
Hello guys.
I've just decided to contribute to folding@home but immediately faced an issue.
I have two decent GPUs in my system (work-from-home PC, for CG/GameDev). But neither of them seem to work. They both have a "waiting for idle" status.
How do I fix it?
thats normal
but you can do some things to add servers to your rotation to get newer units that are still in testing
there's a mix between servers that are down right now and servers without work lol
Crossed 100 WU today while at work.
@brittle coral so this has nothing to do with the config on my system but instead caused by servers overload?
more like
human overload
not enough work given to the servers cause people have to participate in the work unit generation process
what you can do is some config mods to add a flag to each slot, i can walk you through that
might help
and it helps them test newer WUs
Lex's page specifically says it's working on the Coronavirus Project, how do I do that?
theres no way to filter specifically for covid projects right now
they havent added it because they're using all their client development time on building a brand new client for us
more modern one
@sand inlet im gonna take some screens of how you add that flag to your slots
at the top hit configure
@brittle coral
I'm not ready to dig into this setup that deep. I houped it would be as simple as install - basic config - ready. If idling GPUs is an expected behavior, I'll just wait for a new instructions video from Linus if it ever comes out.
its not really deep digging
it takes a minute to do
open config to slots
edit any slot
scroll down and find this
click add, add the values you see
done
rinse and repeat for each slot
thats all xD
client-type advanced gives you test WUs, still contributes to the network, and lets them iron out potential issues with new work. may not produce the same PPD as other WUs but honestly i haven't noticed a difference
Is paused also required?
I'd love to pause the F@H client manually from time to time.
no
thats just an automatic flag
it'll set itself on or off as you run the client or pause it
Ok, thanks!
One more question: is there a way to set up a specific workload limit considered as "idling"?
My CPU never actually go to 0% load.
Hm... I've set client-type setting on both GPUs and restarted the client. It seem to have no effect on their load:
Open Advanced Control
Tab Log
Do you have a whole lot of "No WUs available for this configuration"?
Oh, I just noticed. GPU:2:Unsupported
Show us all three tabs of Advanced Control. You can start it from the systray icon.
yea that's not right lol there's a config issue there
it was showing before
your previous screenshot had it showing
Default (Team 0): 1.6 years
Curecoin: 6.4 months
folding@evga: 4 weeks
One step forward, three steps back.
@smoky rose
Do you have a whole lot of "No WUs available for this configuration"?
Nope. There's not even a single such entry.
https://pastebin.com/RJnKcXbh
GPU:2:Unsupported
TL; DR: I already fixed that
This happened after I tried to set the flag @brittle coral mentioned. The advanced control gave me some error about "can't set up a GPU with index -1" or something, so I saved it manually setting the index to 1 and 2, respectively. Same numbers as GPUs have in the "Slots" list. As it turns out, the GPU numbering seem to be 0-based (there's no GPU with index 2), so when I re-saved them, manually setting the index back to -1, the 2nd GPU became properly detected again.
CPU is going. GPUs are waiting for idle.
yeah. That's the issue. IDK why they're idling.
I am not 100% sure about this but I think power slider at light = no GPU action
The 2nd GPU is literally for compute only (I render on it). It doesn't even have any monitor plugged.
Clicked "Fold" on GPU's RMB-menu. no change.
And the power slider?
When I set it to anything higher than Light, it causes some hiccups on my system. Especially when surfing YouTube.
Just for test - set the slider to medium. Yeah, GPUs started to work.
Overclocked?
Why does my stats page show 4 clients when I only ever had 3?
Overclocked
GPUs - no. Memory - only XMP profile. CPU - only AMD's build-in auto-overclock. That "SenseMI" or whatever.
@sand inlet Any thermal throttling going on?
@wraith echo Usernames are not unique. Anyone can use any name.
Mine is with p/w
Url to your stats?
CPU temp is about 80 C.
GPU is 76.
@wraith echo What is your total number of folding slots?
Oh, that would be 4
There you go then.
So it's counting every slot as a client. I get it now.
@sand inlet If I fold on both CPU and GPU on this laptop my whole system becomes slow. Thermal throttling. You need to check current clock speeds, not just the temperature.
@wraith echo Compare with mine. I fold on one cpu and one gpu. https://stats.foldingathome.org/donor/jo___l
I'm not on a laptop. It's a full PC. How do I check if it's throttling? I use HWiNFO
I'll go to my BIOS to set a more aggressive cooling profile...
I use HWMonitor. It shows current, min and max clock speed of my gpu and cpu.
If you are having issues with your cpu you can limit the number of threads to get the temperate down some.
you can also limit the number of threads to keep your system from stuttering if that's part of the issue
also @sand inlet you can combine that with disabling GPU acceleration in your browser to keep it from hiccuping since most modern CPUs are still more than capable of doing the work they were offloading to the GPU anyway lol
I give half the threads to FAH.
i have 12/16 set leaving 4 open for me and the GPUs to fight over. it's enough that i can game on my PC when the main GPU is also paused and not notice a difference at all
Now that you are running two Nvidia GPUs remember that they tie up 2 threads.
As long as I don't run into thermal issues I like this formula: FAH Threads = System threads -1 for system and -1 per GPU
yea nvidia GPUs seem to use more CPU time for me so far but im putting that to the test when my 2600x and new board get here lol
Hmm... After monitoring my temps I've decided to make this client work only on one of my GPUs. Is it possible?
yea you can individually pause and play from the advanced control or you can remove a slot using the slots tab in configure
or you can underclock your GPU
that's what i did to help with temps on my 5700xt
You just have to select which one you want to stop with the three buttons
in the slots part above the work queue you can right click
and pause and play individually
will they restart after reboot?
it's more consistent than trying to click and use the 3 buttons because they're universal if you aren't selecting anything
in my experience not if you shut down properly no
sometimes yea
and if they were running when you reboot then yea
so removing a slot from configuration is more secure, I guess? I'll do it this way.
yes
if you want to 100% guarantee it wont run on that card then remove the slot
nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure
@brittle coral Nvidia GPUs tie up threads. AMD do not. Something about interupts something something darkside.
lmao
thank you for clearing that up
ive been going on and on in here for days wondering why tf so many system resources were being used on my older rig
@sand inlet You can remove the slot you don't want to keep.
3-4 more units until I break 1 million points, this is great 😄
im moving all the nvidia GPUs i can into one rig together and running the AMD cards in the slower rig once i get a chance to move everything around, might get more PPD that way
nice hiitchy
shit, i just broke 13
whoop
i guess it's time to go to bed and hope my WUs keep flowing i'll break 14 while im asleep if they do
7 mil folks
Hmmm... now I notice another issue. I've left only the 2nd GPU (the weaker one, 1070, the one attached to no displays).
And it seem to never go to active state. It tells it's "ready", but nothing happens from there:
@sand inlet Check the log.
@sand inlet you might have to wait for a GPU WU to come in
even with the LTT server we are still at >400K users
yea its been hopping team to team for a bit
i fold and distribute for like 5 teams
i was fixing stuff up and now im dedicating it all here
1070 I'm guessing a 1060 Mining Card and a 980
yup
no CPU?
i had to fluff team anandtech for a while
no, like jo was saying nVidia rigs seem to use a ton of CPU
1 thread per
and that is a 4c4t system
8350k
but yea, after all the help LTT has given im throwing my weight behind the beast now
my GPU is just power throttled to 70% I think and my CPU is not at turbo
folding@evga caught up
ive been trying to get other teams to push harder by flexing and being like "flex with me" but people dont wanna fold 24/7 😦
they weanna game and stuff xD
once my D14 arrives today or tomorrow I can enable Turbo Boost
this 120mm rad from my pre-built is just bad
I ordered a bunch of fans for my PC, hopefully this'll help my GPU and CPU a bit
Ah
Asetek
I'm not quite ready yet to upgrade my cooler so I'm using AMD's stock cooler
with either 1 fan or 2 but main 140 takes in air and 120 pulls air to the chassis fan
im upgrading the stock cooler, im hitting like 88c on my CPU while folding xD
i have a giant blower aimed at the PC to help
lets see what I'm hitting
1200cfm
How it's supposed to be
Heatsink/Pipe Fan Heatsink/Pipe Fan
Me
Fan Heatsink/Pipe Fan Heatsink/Pipe
and a 2200rpm antec fan sitting strapped to the top GPU blowing on both as well right up in their face
eh, it'll survive
from rear to front
80 C is warm but OK for Ryzen
If this were the bulldozer chips
just need a couple new ones
I'd be ready to cook breakfast
xD
though, my 5700xt is about as hot tbh
haha
it's just got a better stock cooler
buuuut
not good enough
so yet again, im busting out the alphacool monsta
I have a 290x. How do you cool them? I mean...no.
i have 2 of them if i REALLY want to get overkill
slight fix
my 2060 on the other hand...
@smoky rose
Played with settings, restarted a few times. Before I tried to keep only the slot for a spre GPU, my CPU and main GPU (not the spare one) were both working. Now, everything is in "Ready" state.
Again, left only a single slot, here's the log: https://pastebin.com/VhV7Y5QB
i had an entire 3x120 80mm thick radiator per gpu
thats how
jo let me take a photo of the radiator next to my thigh xD
"No WUs available for this configuration"
- The server is busy and can not take your call.
- You messed up your configuration.
- There are no WU matching your configuration.
It's either 1 or 3. Just wait.
RTX RN
that thicc
also dust ew
it's still got good fans strapped to it too
yea
i have not cleaned it since i took it out of my haf stacker's module i dedicated to two of them
im planning to clean it before reinstalling it tho obvs
I clean my case out with a industrial air pump
i need to clean out one level of the stacker again so i have room for watercooling stuff, i was using it as shelving lmao
worked pretty good as shelving NGL
but yea, i have 2 of these
I clean my case out with a leafblower
and an mcr320 swiftech
that might be a bad idea
ye
but vacuuming apparently produces static electricity according to the A+ certification test
yea
if you get a special PC vac you're good
don't use a hose vac
house*
just stick it in the dish washer
yeah its just blowing air
if I want to add Optane
definitely not vacuuming though
that's how i was taught to clean my keyboards by my A+ teacher xD
I need to remove the D14 or RTX 2080 Ti to add it
he took a vintage dell mechanical keyboard and washed it in the dish washer no soap
came out clean
but did it work lmao
he probably protected the USB so maybe
dude i haven't even looked at what those optane drives can do
how much faster are they than an NVMe M2 on gen4 pcie?
they are supposed to speed up your game drive or such
they act as ram for your drives
I have Gen 3 M.2 so IDK
if you already have a NVME SSD, there's no point
also how can they be faster than NAND while their PCB looks like a Sata plug
i remember when it was a big deal that they had PCI-e add in cards that let you stick sticks of DDR2 ram on them
If I remember correctly, they existed to help boost Hard Drives
you could have a 64gb DDR2 ram card in a slot as a drive
I have 4 GB of DDR2 laying around
this is when the only game in town for SSDs was intel and indilinx, samsung hadn't come out with theirs yet, and sandisk were garbage
except SD SSDs
I never owned a SSD till 2019
and yea, i even have an NVMe drive in my folding rig now
I have a 970 evo 500gb nvme in my PC, but that's because the difference between the 500gb and 1tb is $200
i got an 860 evo 500gb because the 120gb evo 840 was grinding to ah alt so i needed a new one to image it to and secure erase
WHATA
what
i got my first SSD in 2009 xD
you ahve been missing out
honestly, its the biggest upgrade you can make to system performance, but now that you have one you know 🙂
so great!
imagine that
I had always ran Windows on a platter
ughhhhh i still have my 10krpm WD velociraptor
it is slow once you at the desktop but it speeds up quick afterwards
It thas a 5400 1 TB Drive
[Canada version] 🙂
good old single platters
i have USB3 sticks that are faster than it xD
Lol yeah, because Samsung was selling US version drives with the US warranty in Canada
and when their drives failed, you couldn't warranty them
But Warranty
the velociraptor was only done single and dual platter lol. performance over capacity
it was also the only 10krpm consumer drive ever besides the previous raptor drives from them
I want one of those 10k RPM drives
Just get a bunch of SAS drives
in 2011
15000 RPM
even those aren't as fast as a good SSD
my first HDD was 80 or 160 GB but it was IDE or SATA
I had a really old server with about 16 SAS drives in it. Thing was as loud as my current car's engine
SAS drives are great for integrity of data and sequential read, they're what most of the streaming media in the world runs off of
Jake be here laughing over me getting a SSD for the 1st time in 2019
wait which jake
LTT jake
probably thought you were joking with him'
lmao probably
also what is it with .gg sites
@smoky rose
- You messed up your configuration.
Couuld it also be the case? But I have no idea, what I could possibly have misconfigured.
On the one hand, when I render, this GPU is successfully detected and significantly speeds up render time.
On the other hand, many years ago, when I was mining, I had to manually craft a physical fake-display plug and attach it to any monitor port to make GPU available. It's something about Windows putting GPUs with no displays to some sleeping mode.
But, again, my render works just fine with no jumps through hoops.
like everyone uses it
anyway, sleep time for me guys
its 8:30am and i wanted to be in bed 30m ago
LMFAO
yea
that reads like our teamspeak banter
@sand inlet You are in good company with the rest of us if you are waiting for a GPU WU. Do not expect to get one only because you ask for one.
our discord is less tame
This helps.
snap
I saw a teamspeak server link in announcements but since it was April 1st avoided itr
depending on how fast the cards are i'll have to play with that value
not gonna get april fool'd by LMG
lol
Worst thing that happen is you actually get a new WU when you are at 90% with the current one.
if people ever want a place to use high quality voice in a teamspeak server poke me, i help admin our outfit's server and we've got an unlimited person cap
yeah, I just let F@H get it when it's ready
It happens once every blue moon.
yea right lol
ive been having them pop in pretty fast on one or 2 cards if im super lucky but usually nah
im gonna set it to 95% on the faster cards though
and like
90% on the slower ones
When I left my PC on last night, it was getting units left and right
oooh
ive been running 14549 all night
runs super slow on my AMD cards for some reason but blazes on the nvidia
@smoky rose OK. Thanks for all the help. I'l leave it working then.
Is there some tool displaying a graph of worlkload during time?
this unit runs great on amd tho
thats my underclocked 5700xt
damn near 1m on its own
usually gets 700kish
lol oh boy
@sand inlet https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/
Left hand side, search, change TeamID to User Name.
Good night
here's to 1m to LTT by the time i wake up
sleep is when i put my face in bed
up and down
top 4.2K on LTT Whoop Whoop
I also have a quick question, if my PC is pulling 0.3 kWh, that means every 24 hours it uses approximately 7.2kWh, right?
Top 38 K for all FAH
@smoky rose just for test - I've re-added my main 2070 and almost immediately it got it's WU. While my 1070 is still "ready".
Different performance, different work units.
ah, ok
Does performance really affect what you can get?
It doesn't seem to much like they pick the faster cards over slower
I've def had my rx580 get work before the 5700xt a few times when they're both idle
Seems like COVID project really wans some juicy RTX cards 😄
only mine
mine likes Myosins
CPU likes COVID
my dad thinks it's gaming though which restricts how much time I can fold
GPU goes looking for sites in the protein chains where drugs can interact.
CPU runs different drug candidates against the sites.
BTW, sicne I already got into LTT server...
Can anyone tell what's the safe temps for my CPU and GPUs?
Of cource, I googled it, but there are a plenty of controversial suggestions on the subject.
CPU: Ryzen 2700x
GPU1: GTX 1070
GPU2: RTX 2070 (regular, not super)
From what I've found, temps below 85 C should be fine. Some say it's even 90. But both of these seem too high for me.
As for GPUs - some say 90 is OK while others say even 80 is hot as hell.
If you can do your bbq off of the computer it is time to start worrying.
There was a PS3 FAH though
@smoky rose https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/932166-ryzen-7-2700x-max-safe-temperatures/
the "right" answer seem to be more a matter of preference rather then some specific number.
Hello! I have recently built a new Ryzen 7 2700X system and was wondering what the maximum safe temperature is, as I cannot seem to find it anywhere. Im guessing its probably 95 degrees like the 1800X, but Id just like to be sure. Thanks
For my desktop computers I have never accepted high temperatures. I always throw borderline overkill cooling on them.
why does Apple still use intel if they thermal throttle a lot and Ryzen is now far better
Because they signed contracts
@smoky rose ...and what specific temp do you consider "high"?
Also it's a whole separate architecture they have to adapt to, since the majority if not all their apps are optimized for Intel based systems
It varies. Thermal throttle = most def high
why are most USPS places rated so badly
If I can keep it 20c below that I'm happy.
... so if AMD says max safe temp is 85 then 80 should be fine, right?
https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-7-2700x
jo i agree
20c under max is ideal
lex if you're 5c under your max and you are not at the hottest your room may get
thats a problem waiting to happen
over time that temp will drift up as your TIM between cooler and CPU ages or the heat pipes slowly lose their ability to move heat as they age (happens slowly but it does happen)
and the cooler you run you gear the longer it will generally live, all other things equal
@odd barn you can make jerky with 70c
ive done it before
Making jerky, making jerky inside your pc or dripping juice on your pcb?
the one time i crammed all 4 5870s in one rig together with basically no room to breathe, and i piped air in through the tiniest of gaps using a blower
the exhaust from all 4 was piped into another shroud
and i hung meat in it
and then it pumped that air (carbon and hepa filtered) into the rest of the air circulation for the house so it was basically always warm
was at a friend's place where i was mooching power since he had all solar and his heating was electric anyway, he built the system for me to dump heat so we could double up on the rig's usefulness
and then the jerky drying rig was a later addition
now you can buy single cards that are 2-4x as fast as that whole rig
@smoky rose that trick worked btw. my gpus tat are at 95 and 97% around the same time both were set to those % for early WUs and they both got one already queued up
and my 980ti already got another as well
and is firing through it
8%
everything is running 😄
14549 again
all of them
they are really spitting those units out fast
they must have uploaded a bunch more in the last few hours
it does look like they added a few extra servers, but the assign rate is still fairly low
I'm okay with the assign rate being fairly low, but I've chalked it up to the amount of hardware people have and the amount of WU's going out to everyone that has hardware ready to run it
how do you mean?
Given that there are plenty of people with hardware ready to do WU's, and some of them searching servers to get WU's done, it's possible that we're oversaturating the servers with our hardware. So even when and if they add a new server and make it available to distribute WU's, how long would it take for all of our hardware, collectively, to saturate the new server?
I don't quite understand how the servers work, in that they distribute units to a PC's hardware that is available, but my theory is just that we have so much hardware, that F@H really needs more server throughput
thats not your theory, thats the truth
not quite instantly
Oh boy
the calls for WUs go out regularly
progressively longer
thats why after 1hr no WU its recommended to pause and restart the slot
it makes it call for work
btw
true, but I'm pretty sure we are so oversaturated with pc's that at any given moment there are a few thousand slots asking for work
i switched over around 8:35 to LTT folding team in full right
well, say every 5 minutes
im already 285912 contributed
nice
lmao
I've been getting WU's pretty much all day today so I'm pretty happy about that
we need more people folding for ltt, we are doing not so great the last day
yea thats why i hopped over
when the big teams drop everyone drops
i was flexing on small teams before tryina get them to compete more but now im over it xD
Seems like it all dropped because everyone got their hydro bills
