heh. π
#folding-and-boinc
smoky rose
hushed bobcat
Anyone know what happened to AWSFolds?
fierce steppe
Bezos pulled the plug when he realised coronavirus is causing people to stay home and order more from amazon
/s
hushed bobcat
Maybe even a publicity stunt then
fierce steppe
The Anonymous default user saw a big spike in production same time the EC2Spot stopped so someone speculated earlier that it might be folding anonymously now
hushed bobcat
I saw that speculation
maybe now that Bezos is out team Default can get more WU's?
hushed bobcat
its hard too tell from all the 0 point updates lol
I see we are down to 6 Months to overtake Curecoin
fierce steppe
I don't think we'll be able to maintain 6B 24hr average for long
not for 6 months at least
rich depot
Yeah I think the same
Also we won't catch default if they keep up, even if we catch curecoin
fierce steppe
^^ true
rich depot
We'll catch evga and then nothing, just having the top 3 climb in point and widen the gap between the rest
smoky rose
We should try and get people who are not in a team to form their own little teams. π
fierce steppe
or fold for 223518
rich depot
Yeah
But I honestly don't think that the default team can keep folding this fast for long
It would be nice if they did. But I doubt it
brittle coral
yea
ive been trying to boost osme of the other teams
find ppl who are in those groups like on reddit and stuff and just ask who needs help in posts and whatever
not a lot of bites tho
keen cypress
@smoky rose I haven't DDUd yet, but I'm testing the stability of each GPU solo. This one seems to be showing no OpenCL support?
noble knot
Any help with this error?
16:43:44:ERROR:WU01:FS01:Failed to start core: OpenCL device matching slot 1 not found, try setting 'opencl-index' manually
On Ubuntu 19.10
Also the webclient isnt the same as the same as when I start it via terminal, and the estimated points from the web client are far lower than running on windows
dense blaze
check system info for which openCL device you are on
then under configure slots, edit the gpu openCL and cuda accordingly
oh wait, ubuntu im not much help :/
noble knot
yeeee, and folding seems to not be upkeeping the control application for linux. it just straight doesnt work
rich depot
@noble knot whats the problem?
noble knot
FAH linux is bad, but i mainly use ubuntu π
i changed my config file (thats in the home folder instead of /etc/fah or something like that) to include my nvidia gpu
it sees it and tries to fold but i need to make it open-cl or soemthing
rich depot
ah yeah that needs to be done in the advanced control
noble knot
well trying to start control from the terminal i get an error saying there is no module names gtk
noble knot
i think i found the reason the control isnt working
fahcontrol : Depends: python-support (>= 0.90.0) but it is not installable
Recommends: fahviewer but it is not installable
and it seems python-support was removed in 2016....
and i seem to have gottom GPU folind to work by installing ocl-icd-opencl-dev
still just need to fix the controller and the web client
rich depot
nice, techquicky did a video about F@H π prepare to see a rise of questions you all
fickle needle
when your folding rig is remote, and got hit by a power blink, and the monitor attached to it isn't coming back on so the GPU doesn't realize anything is attached so it doesn't activate
oh well, got a dummy plug coming in the mail won't make that mistake again
rich depot
Quick FaH question: my webclient is glitched, where can I find direct access to the advanced control panel? (its not down in the icons bar anymore either)
dense blaze
heres a question: does this mean my gpu isnt able to run any of the possible WUs it has available? 17:26:35:WU00:FS00:Connecting to 65.254.110.245:8080 17:26:35:WARNING:WU00:FS00:Failed to get assignment from '65.254.110.245:8080': No WUs available for this configuration 17:26:35:WU00:FS00:Connecting to 18.218.241.186:80 17:26:36:WARNING:WU00:FS00:Failed to get assignment from '18.218.241.186:80': No WUs available for this configuration 17:26:36:ERROR:WU00:FS00:Exception: Could not get an assignment
@rich depot if ur on windows, you should be able to search FAHcontrol
rich depot
@dense blaze means theres no WUs at present
dense blaze
thanks, just trying to get a better understanding of how it all works
keen cypress
Am I correct in thinking that I can't use the iGPU on my CPU to fold? I tried adding it as another GPU and it just said there aren't any.
rich depot
I believe so yeah
marble quartz
even if supported still wouldn't recommend to do so
if even any WUs were handed out
iGPU isn't powerful enough to crunch numbers within deadline
rich turtle
Tough getting everything to fold today. Kind of glad it happened AFTER the event lol
keen cypress
Yet my shitty laptop can run on its 840M that's probably worse than current-gen iGPUs?
rich depot
Same here Mr fallen king
marble quartz
no it's not
rich turtle
Last I checked, there was still a #1 next to my name. π
forest sapphire
@brittle coral Yeah logs were able to tell me what was going on. I believe I got them fixed just waiting to see it to send again.
rich depot
@keen cypress Vega iGPUs are not too bad folders tbf, but intel gear, nope
marble quartz
unless u have a ryzen apu
rich depot
No support at all for intel iGPUs
marble quartz
ryzen apu uses similar architecture to a vega dgpu (afaik)
keen cypress
Haha, fair enough. Just wanted to make sure I was getting all the power I could out of my hardware.
rich depot
Well... kinda, the new Vega iGPUs in the laptops are something else
You don't magically get something like 50% higher 'IPC' (hate using IPC for GPGPUs) without some decent adjustment to the uArch
It is most certainly still GCN though, otherwise they would have mentioned it being RDNA IMO
jovial dawn
Hi, I am having problems in folding where my Gpu (1050ti mobile) is not activating the fold when i right click and press fold on it. Cpu starts fine but gpu does not. Can i get some help with this?
jade slate
is it getting a WU>
jovial dawn
Also my Gpu says it is ready but does not do any action
jovial dawn
alright. Because it was confusing that Cpu did not have any problem starting or getting work unit. Thanks
jade slate
sometimes there are no WU for your GPU, and NP
marble quartz
check log
jovial dawn
oh alright so its segregated accordingly too... cool
keen hill
how much point y'all got? i have 1,415,204
marble quartz
a bit over 6 mil
keen hill
u guys prob have more
jade slate
somewhere over 4 mil
keen cypress
Around 3.5 million.
marble quartz
I started folding like 3 weeks ago
keen hill
i started 2 weeks but hasnt got a proper cooling so i was delayed
keen cypress
But yeah, not everything's been working right, nor have I been folding 24/7 or even near it.
marble quartz
plenty of downtime, otherwise PPD 800-900k on average
also I paused folding when gaming so
keen hill
looking at my temp sitting at 75c makes me paranoid
marble quartz
my PC heats my room
but now I'm worried as it's getting warm outside
it was like 5C outside a couple weeks ago
keen hill
summer + folding at home = not a good combo
keen cypress
@smoky rose Yay! Fixed it!
smoky rose
@keen cypress What was the issue?
marble quartz
it still gets to 4C at night next week
stark bough
Lol some guy said to me heβs had nonstop WUs for the last 2 weeks.
keen cypress
I borked the card(s) previously by trying to flash them with either a GHz edition BIOS or a 280X BIOS in the hopes of getting the graphics protocol thing working for UEFI startup.
marble quartz
probably going to fold til end of may
keen hill
water cooling while f@h really stress my 3900x
stark bough
Fortunate luck or just lying?
rich depot
Summer folding sprint will be in the middle of june...
marble quartz
nonstop WUs on all slots? bullshit
rich depot
You asking me that? I fold 24/7 year round, regardless if theres an event or not
keen cypress
Fortunately, one of my 7970s has dual BIOS so I just stole the backup BIOS, flashed it back onto the primary BIOS and the second 7970 (the not working one that has only a single BIOS) and voila!
rich depot
42C I got to last year in the room where my folding server was back then... F
rich depot
Naa, they're good to 95 or so in my experience
forest sapphire
yeah
keen hill
so amd runs hotter?
forest sapphire
I was gonna say you can get into the 90's before you start to really see thermal limits
stark bough
New UPS came in
keen cypress
So now I have a OCed 980Ti sitting idle for some reason, two 7970s running full bore (OCed, too) and half a 3930k at 4.2GHz all crunching some numbers. I even threw my laptop in there with 2 threads on the CPU and its Nvidia 840M crunching what it can.
rich depot
More like AMD CAN not does run hotter...
forest sapphire
I'm folding right now, cpu is 80. I have a 3900x, all cores are going at about 4.0-4.1Ghz
rich depot
I hate the x runs hotter... that's not how it works...
keen hill
so im safe at 76 c?
rich depot
yeah
forest sapphire
yep
rich depot
Modern chips are hardy bastards
smoky rose
@keen cypress π Getting it solved.
keen hill
my 3900x is pulling whapping 145 watts
stark bough
@forest sapphire What cooler?
forest sapphire
@stark bough H115i Corsair
keen cypress
Thanks. Now to hopefully break 1.5M PPD... I'm not that expectant, but hey. it might do it.
stark bough
On water, ah
forest sapphire
yep
keen hill
my rig has H100i rgb platinum
rich depot
I run the stock sipre cooler....
stark bough
Iβm running 6 cores stock boost on 3700x 70C
forest sapphire
OMG I am so hating iCUE
rich depot
Only cause that is money I can slend on GPUs instead
forest sapphire
it always says it can't detect my shit
rich depot
Spend* Urgh
stark bough
forest sapphire
And this is what got me to go back to CorsairLink
stark bough
That paste is super part. Got 4-6C improvement with a paste swap
keen hill
turn out why my amd stock cooler caused twice thermal shutdowns while folding i forgot to put the fan speed to high on the switch of the stock fan
storm talon
that "paste" looks like someone used chewing gum
rich depot
mented bluetac Is clearly what is being used
keen hill
i already wasted up one tube of 1 gram thermal grizzly tube
rich depot
Melted... WTF is wrong with me today
storm talon
lol yea bluetac
rich depot
Told my CPU slots to chill now, just not worth it
stark bough
@storm talon
stark bough
2 months ago it was this
rough kiln
my system got insanely hot 92c, Thermaltake lvl 20 HT all air cooled running nvidia 2060S and 3900x. I left it folding at full burn for 12 days. now its on idle only
storm talon
it's not bad stuff just dries out way too fast
stark bough
It was a pain to clean off too. So viscous
I need to repaste my 1070
been lazy because of folding
fortunately I got all my stuff prior to Covid tying up every supply chain
I wonder if I can get things down 5C
I pulled off the front panel in my case and βupgradedβ the cooling to a larger HEPA
Weβve come so far
Power creep
rich depot
Guess you could say the thermal paste supply has dried up
somber idol
Hey so I wanna play some siege, but my computer is in the middle of a fold on both the CPU and GPU. I've paused the fold, but am I ok to close the background process or would I need to keep that open?
keen hill
i can play while folding only looses about 20 frames
keen cypress
Don't think I'll quite hit the 1.5M PPD mark but I'm doing 1.35M just now so that's not bad!
forest sapphire
GPU hasn't pulled anything so doing know what my PPD truely is right now
keen cypress
Here's a question... How do I make my toasty, ancient, blower-style 7970s make a bit less noise?
odd barn
repaste
keen cypress
Yeah, done that...
odd barn
clean the fans out
keen cypress
Literally yesterday. Haha
keen cypress
I guess that would be the only real option. But then we're talking money.
They've got a hell of a lot of space and fresh air (Corsair 900D case) so there's not much more I can do.
marble quartz
@somber idol u can close the process or keep it open doesn't matter. it'll resume where u left off
keen cypress
Holy shit... Just ramped right up to 1.5 million PPD somehow... Whoo!
somber idol
alright thanks
odd barn
I feel like it's your fans at this point blizz
marble quartz
tried undervolting @keen cypress ?
forest sapphire
keen cypress
I could run them at stock instead of OCed, to be fair. As for undervolting... I don't know if they'd be stable, bearing in mind they are like 9 years old!
keen cypress
Yeah, but would I lose performance if I drop the voltage? I don't imagine they can run at 1125MHz at lower voltages, so I'd have to run at stock and lower the voltage.
That's assuming I even can...
marble quartz
no, you'll get better performance
because it runs cooler
so it'll push the card at higher clocks longer
keen cypress
I don't have boost...
marble quartz
also less wattage
keen cypress
They're ancient cards from the pre-GPU Boost era.
They're running max clocks all day long.
marble quartz
it'll still run cooler
odd barn
Quick q, what do you guys use to see FPS in your games
keen cypress
I use Steam's overlay usually.
marble quartz
for AMD they got a nice overlay from radeon software
keen cypress
Yeah.
marble quartz
ctrl shift O
odd barn
Hm
forest sapphire
@odd barn you talking about when you are folding and gaming or just gaming?
odd barn
I have a Gigabyte 2060, wondering if I should use gigabytes monitoring thing
marble quartz
check "in-game" in steam overlay settings
keen cypress
Steam > Settings > In-Game > In-game FPS counter
forest sapphire
I have a 2080ti, and when I am gaming I get like 140+fps depending on the game
Thats at ultra settings on 1440p
keen cypress
That means nothing...
marble quartz
odd barn
I've been getting 60FPS in the majority of games but I'm wondering if that's related to VSync
marble quartz
not running GPU WUs rn, but it shows fps if it detects game
keen cypress
Try getting 140FPS on something like Anno while folding.
Then try getting 140FPS on Portal. You'll find one is possible, one is not.
forest sapphire
@odd barn It could be. I keep vsync off on all of my games, but I am running g-sync monitors though
odd barn
I don't even think my monitor is a gysnc monitor
but nvidia is like "yeah it is what are u doing"
storm talon
+300$ for anything gsync
odd barn
I'm p sure it's a freesync one
storm talon
mine's 144hz gsync an i love it
formal topaz
is there any known reason why my gpu cant get a project after so many attempts?
rich depot
The servers are overloaded
And may not have a job ready for your machine.
So it keeps trying until it gets one from the servers.
Same with me rn.
formal topaz
okay, I thougt that I maybe did some settings wrong or something but then its okay I guess
rich depot
Mhm.
formal topaz
Well at least I can observe how my CPU thermals are changing over long times
odd barn
LTT producing over 300 masks a day is amazing tbh
formal topaz
Its really impressing
odd barn
I think what really amazes me is companies retooling to help support the need for more PPE. It really shows that companies that want the best for everyone are the ones trying to make sure their employees don't get laid off, and that everyone works together
smoky rose
Absolut (Vodka) are making hand sanitizer
"We have the ethanol, capacity is not an issue, someone hook us up with someone to talk to."
odd barn
LOL
That's amazing
There's nothing more warming than seeing companies who care about their people. Remember these companies when everything gets back to normal, because they deserve the help recovering
dusky seal
anyone know if there is a good way to connect multiple machines running fah?
or if it's worth while to do so
keen cypress
Yeah, use the advanced control panel and you can monitor multiple machines from one.
dusky seal
sweet, i thought why not spin up the servers taking up space in my closet XD
keen cypress
dusky seal
already have 1/4 up and running
keen cypress
Yeah, I had that idea with my old graphics cards but unfortunately only half are compatible.
dusky seal
well i have four 12 core r710's just collecting dust in my closest so i thought why not help out
just gonna die a little on the inside when i get my electric bill XD
keen cypress
Go for it. And yeah..... It's not as horrific as it could be. But it will definitely increase the electricity bill, for sure.
dusky seal
cant be as bad as when i had 8 of them running full kilt at my last place.... that bill was enough to make anyone cry
energy for the computer and the AC
kinda surprised my desktop doesnt even come close to even one of my servers
keen cypress
What've you got in your desktop and what's in your servers?
dusky seal
desktop is running 2700x and rx580, and the server is running two 5670's
on also desktop has 32gb ram and the server has 96gb
not sure if that makes a difference, i dont know how the workflow is
dusky seal
i would think the 2700x and 2ssd's would at least come close to two 5670's and hdd's
storm talon
as far as points go, cpu's can't compete with gpu's
dusky seal
the desktop has a gpu
nvm, it picked up, i guess it just took some time to generate the estimate
maybe tonight ill go through and get the other 3 up and running
rich crane
Does re-arranging the slots, resulting in dropped WUs, mean that my ppd will drastically drop until the qrb kicks back in after what is it, 10 finished units in a row?
Got a 60 thread thing only giving me ~45k ppd estimates
bitter totem
I am running FAH but it doesn't seem to run in GPU?
plucky quiver
Just started folding, roughly 700,000 points per day
dusky seal
there it is π
in running last get 2700x and dual 5670's so im only hitting about 120k/day
bitter totem
My CPU is running but my GPI isn't running. Is that normal?
dusky seal
is it not showing load or is it not showing in the interface?
plucky quiver
this website kinda sucks but this is my old benchmark before I upgraded to a 3800X
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/16612046
dusky seal
like this
bitter totem
It is showing in the interface but yellow
dusky seal
got me on that one them, hopefully someone else knows, sorry
bitter totem
plucky quiver
how long ago did you start it?
bitter totem
5 mins ago
dusky seal
it takes a minute sometimes
plucky quiver
my GPU took a minute to pick up a workunit and my CPU took about 10 minutes
dusky seal
it took about 7-8 on my rx580
plucky quiver
someone needs to request a job from the folding@home pool
then the server sends them out to people waiting
dusky seal
yeah, tomorrow or sunday ill go in and get my r710's up and running
should get me an extra 90k ppd
220k per day will be nice π
plucky quiver
I sold my R710
dusky seal
i have 4 of them in my closet
plucky quiver
the dual xeon E5620 sucked
dusky seal
i have the hex core 5670's in mine
plucky quiver
wait I had an R610
dusky seal
ah, the skinny one with atrocious cooling
plucky quiver
yeah it was super loud and not fast
dusky seal
i had one.... it was normally in a state of thermal throttling
im hard of hearing so i dont really notice the noise to much
bitter totem
I thought a RTX 2060 would blow away my CPU's points. Guess not, only 50% better
dusky seal
my desktop is demolishing my server though
plucky quiver
I have a low power linux machine I want to try
dusky seal
at least its a good use of boredom XD
plucky quiver
i7-7700T and RX560
bitter totem
I got a raspberry pi
dusky seal
i was gonna run centos on my server but it wasnt liking installing the client
so i just turned off the vm and put all the cores on my windows vm
plucky quiver
I'm running ubuntu mate so it should be fine
plucky quiver
especially if you have a lot of cores
bitter totem
Ok. Now my GPU is blowing my CPU away in points. 93k compared to 4.5k
dusky seal
12 cores 24 threads XD
plucky quiver
i got a dm for using a bad word
dusky seal
oof
plucky quiver
I was saying the windows scheduler is bad
dusky seal
i didnt even notice it lol
solid thunder
yeah cpu sucks for points
bitter totem
Threadripper might disagree
plucky quiver
my 3800X is pretty okay but my 1080 is way better
smoky rose
@plucky quiver I posted a bitcoin wallet hash in here. Got muted for five minutes. "Word" was too long.
bitter totem
Imagine AMD unveils 128 cores next
plucky quiver
lol I said the word for #2 and it's a palindrome
not even a swear, but this is a good boy discord server
smoky rose
plucky quiver
you absolute fool
dusky seal
"this is a Christian minecraft server sir"
dusky seal
lol
leave it go, safer
i just needed that last minute joke π
i want to turn up the core count on the vm but i dont wanna impact my minecraft instance :/
because windows virtualization doesnt play well with the hypervisor resource allocation
dusky seal
well my servers do more than just 1 thing so all of them are running proxmox
forest sapphire
VM's have come so far when it comes to the underlying host applications for it
I would just stick with Hyper-V myself it wasn't that Cisco Virl doesn't play nice with it
dusky seal
linux it runs amazing, but windows runs like doodoo on a lot of them
forest sapphire
But with that being said I may just spin up Cisco Virl VM in the cloud as I only need it for a couple hours at a time
plucky quiver
they're fine for servers but I was using mine for python development
so I ditched it for bare metal
forest sapphire
ahh
What do you use for your bare metal?
Yeah I use my PC for gaming or I would totally run it as a ESXI host or something
smoky rose
I'm a bare metal kind of galguysomethinginbetween too.
forest sapphire
Oh I much prefer bare metal
smoky rose
But then I'm old and have a hard time learning new tricks.
plucky quiver
I have some mini ITX PC with a low power i7 -7700t and an RX 560 i had laying around
dusky seal
so far i have found proxmox as a pretty nice host
just a pain sometimes when you need to re ip the host if you move
smoky rose
I tried it once. Had problems with gpu passthrough. Shelved that idea for "later".
dusky seal
i dont use gpu's in my servers so i dont have to much of an issue
its more for dev environments and application hosting
plucky quiver
I can't get the linux installer to work
dusky seal
and a lot of my applications are node based so not to much use for a GPU even know i have 2 server gpu's
plucky quiver
it keeps spitting out errors with the post install script
why is dpkg bad at its job
dusky seal
i couldnt get it to run on centos either
dpkg is just fine π its just reading and doing what the deb says
smoky rose
I do python development and hashcracking.
plucky quiver
it's either dpkg or stanford because I am infallible
dusky seal
so you have more use for a gpu than i do
plucky quiver
I use python to trade stocks and crypto
and tweet my old ISP when my internet got slow
dusky seal
at that point i tend to just run stuff on my spare laptop with a gtx 1060 6gb
has a shattered screen and im to lazy to repair it so its become a server
will say... gpu for voice rec processing is hella faster XD
plucky quiver
is that a cuda library?
dusky seal
not sure, i used someone elses lib
plucky quiver
I use my GPU for GANs and messing around with that
smoky rose
Oh yes, and I get the noise that comes with them. π
dusky seal
was a project i fiddled with for voice rec to help me when on voice chats
it did horrible and was a pain to keep running
crashed left and right and was wrong 9/10 times
instead now i just use google to do it
plucky quiver
have a robot tell you how to feel, run tts through google sentiment analysis
wait not tts... stt?
dusky seal
i dont know lol, i pass discord out to Voice meter banana then pip it into googles speach rec in the browser
dusky seal
noice!
plucky quiver
My GPU is doing something totally pointless
dusky seal
?
plucky quiver
Alpha helical hairpins arenβt cool
smoky rose
I'm doing oxytocin research at the moment.
dusky seal
blue hair went out of style years ago XD
plucky quiver
I canβt brag about my furthering of how disulfide cross-linkers affect the folding thermodynamics and kinetics of alpha helical hairpin proteins is curing coronavirus
smoky rose
I'm not going to be the cure.
dusky seal
okay linus, simmer down
smoky rose
U can have it.
dusky seal
if you think about it... they guy that was the start of covid 19 is one of the most popular people in the world right now XD
dusky seal
how do you see what your system is working on?
plucky quiver
it explains it when you click on the CPU or GPU icon
right next to the power slider/Stop Folding button
odd barn
Are we going to ignore that Default overtook Folding@evga
smoky rose
@odd barn We have discussed it more than once. It is not being ignored.
You can look up projects here
https://stats.foldingathome.org/project
There is also a project summary here
https://apps.foldingathome.org/psummary
dusky seal
nice! thanks
@plucky quiver were actually both working on the same project just different jobs π
dusky seal
well... at least my computer is more helpful than i am XD
plucky quiver
Yeah my job doesnβt help anyone.
I write software to dispatch orders to warehouses
dusky seal
im a systems engineer so i dont really do much helping lol
i just design and implement clusters
so im getting way more points per day that i thought lol
i didnt realize they counted the gpu separate from the cpu
plucky quiver
yeah lol
dusky seal
my desktop is estimated to pump out 450k/day
my servers combined should be able to push out 130-140k/day
and my gpu is only at 3% usage?
smoky rose
What os are you running and where are you getting that number?
dusky seal
system resources and windows 10
smoky rose
AMD or Nvidia?
dusky seal
mine has been sitting at an even 80-90%
plucky quiver
smoky rose
Or use hwmonitor
plucky quiver
mine dipped for a hot second but she's back
smoky rose
dusky seal
why would taskmanager show 3%
plucky quiver
task manager is bad
dusky seal
i dont really used windows much XD
i just use it for gaming
inside of my case is nice and toasty though lol
smoky rose
There are different performance numbers. It defaults to 3D. Which is not the case when folding.
dusky seal
ah
now that makes more sense
also explains why my game doesnt seem to be taking a huge hit
smoky rose
I'm sticking to a single core cpu bound game while gpu folding.
dusky seal
im just playing hollow knight
rich shell
Can a dual core 2004 cpu fold?
plucky quiver
technically yes
plucky quiver
but you need to complete the jobs
so when you have something really really really slow like that you need to be willing to let it sit on for days
rich shell
How fast it can fold?
dusky seal
it can probably complete the job, just might take a few days
rich shell
How fast can a i7 2600 do the job or whatever
plucky quiver
I have no idea
dusky seal
probably about a day or more and im pulling that number out of my behind
plucky quiver
but again, you need to leave it on for days at a time when you're talking about really low end hardware
I just make my computer fold on the medium setting while I'm working
rich shell
What hardware would be good for folding and gaming, too
plucky quiver
almost nothing
dusky seal
at least a r5 2600x and a rx570
rich shell
Ok, nice
plucky quiver
like if you want to play an intensive game and fold at the same time you're going to have a bad time
but if you set it to fold while idle you're fine
folding will use 100% of what you give it
rich shell
What if i want to play Bf4 and fold at the same time
dusky seal
0_0
plucky quiver
you probably can't
plucky quiver
yeah a Ryzen 9 could do CPU folding and play a game
dusky seal
r7 can, i was playing BDO earlier with no issues
rich shell
I guess i need a 700$ pc to fold and play
dusky seal
probs a bit more than that
plucky quiver
I wouldn't build a PC with the express intention of folding
rich shell
Ok i will fold sometimes, not all the time
dusky seal
just build a nice pc for what you want and let it fold when you arnt gaming
plucky quiver
if you have a desktop just set it to fold while idle and leave it on when you go to bed
dusky seal
^
rich shell
That is a nice idea
plucky quiver
or set it to medium while you're just watching videos or doing work/homework
and stop folding when you play a game
dusky seal
i just started today... so i only really know as far what you would for other pieces of software
like you wouldnt want to run a long blender render while gaming XD
not unless your rocking something like rocket league lol
rich shell
Rocket League isn't so hardware intensive iirc
rich shell
But it definitely cant run on my current hardware
smoky rose
With the Advanced Control you can set individual slots to "finish". It will finish the current WU and pause.
onyx canopy
it struggles to enter idle mode :/
smoky rose
Are you using the computer?
onyx canopy
for discord
onyx canopy
i thought idle was just not in game
smoky rose
FAH can be installed on computers with no games on them.
smoky rose
Note: The software uses several different methods to determine if the system is idle. In Windows, if thereβs no user input on the mouse or keyboard for a while (the exact timing depends on the systemβs configuration) the power management settings can turn off the monitor, or Windows can decide that itβs in βaway modeβ, whichever comes first, and folding while idle starts. In Mac OS X, the system is idle if thereβs no user activity for around five minutes. In Linux, the screensaver and a lack of user input are used to determine idleness.
plucky quiver
I found the Windows 10 SSD for my low power PC
so it's booted in to windows so I can see what it folds like
limber oyster
Is FAH the only folding client out there?
storm talon
nope, there's also boinc
limber oyster
Does Bionic use GPU?
storm talon
however they operate serperately, and there are no outside fah clients tho as they need to maintain data integrity
limber oyster
FAH doesn't have a GPU codec for my machine
storm talon
how so?
storm talon
oh, rip. I don't know anything about mac, maybe someone else here can offer you some advice
can you bootcamp it and run win10?
limber oyster
More trouble than it's worth. Can't do work and let it fold in the background with windows up
storm talon
fair
ashen warren
I need help
storm talon
whats up?
ashen warren
it just crashed when I launch installer
storm talon
weird
smoky rose
It's not for the lack of trying FAH doesn't support GPU folding on macs.
Apple has a very poor history with their support of OpenCL and from their recent announcements I'm guessing they're committed to abandoning it entirely in favor of Metal. Without a clear direction to fix their OpenCL support going forward, FAH has no interest in wading into the swamp. With a clear support statement, FAH might consider support (and that's not to be taken as any kind of promise.)
plucky quiver
my low power PC doesn't work as well for folding
the i7-7700T really hits its 35W power limit fast when you start stressing it
and my GTX 1080 gets about 920,000 points per day and my RX 560 in the low power PC gets 120,000
a 3800X CPU folds faster than a RX 560 GPU
smoky rose
How is it faster? They can not do the same work units.
smoky rose
I don't know but I'd guess "no" as they are using different cores.
plucky quiver
the stats don't break them up, but maybe it's just a metric of "how long would the average/known computer take vs how long you took"
limber oyster
That phrase "FAH has no interest," implies a lack of effort, Apple may be getting rid of OpenCL, but they did provide a faster alternative API.
plucky quiver
sure but it's expensive to pay a developer to develop for metal just for a tiny portion of their users
limber oyster
It's an opensource project. You don't get paid to contribute code.
plucky quiver
I assume someone at stanford got paid while working on it
but there aren't a ton of metal developers out there either
compared to openCL and Cuda developers
limber oyster
CUDA is only for NVIDIA graphics to begin with, so in terms of folding on mac, it'd always be irrelevant, you could also just use a translation layer like a lot OpenGL developers are starting to do.
plucky quiver
I know that
look, all I'm saying is that it's unlikely that there will be anyone making a metal layer for folding at home
and stanford isn't interested in making it
limber oyster
It's leaving computing power on the table they could otherwise be using.
limber oyster
I'm no where near adept enough to do that.
plucky quiver
all that aside translation layers aren't as effective as native instructions
limber oyster
It's something.
smoky rose
One of FAHs problems is finding funding for development.
plucky quiver
WINE on linux is a DirectX translation layer and it works but that's about it
and the funding ties right back in to developers are expensive
limber oyster
WINE is for all Unix systems
limber oyster
I guess I could just bottle the Windows FAH client and call it a day
plucky quiver
you like to be extra precise, huh
limber oyster
Linux people don't like it when you include macOS in with them most of the time from what I've observed.
smoky rose
But I am kind of hoping, not expecting, that SARS-CoV-2 will change things. Having FAH and all the folders available for instant crunching of a new problem is...well, nice.
plucky quiver
mac is still such a tiny part of the whole distributed network I wouldn't be surprised if GPU support just gets shelved indefinitely
limber oyster
But, my point is more of, people need to let OpenCL go, apple may have co developed it, but, clearly they aren't changing their minds no mater how much we (the collective of developers) including apple's own community revolts.
plucky quiver
the whole COVID-19 thing has been really weird for my team at work too
we're actually getting more done by working hours that work better for us
limber oyster
It's kind of hard to want to participate when you turn and PC or Linux users are constantly pointing out you're the minority and acting like your platform doesn't matter.
plucky quiver
our JIRA board is actually shrinking
hey I have a mac and I like it for a lot of things, but they aren't really computing powerhouses
I did some work with a university a few years ago where we used macs because they played nice with our unix servers
smoky rose
Do boinc support Mac GPUs?
plucky quiver
but even then they were essentially thin clients
limber oyster
But bionic only runs when the system is idle on mac entirely.
You have to be in screen saver for it to start working (specifically the GPU side uses a custom screensaver to work).
So I guess I just have to contribute with both boinc & FAH so I can have my processor working on it, because I don't need an 8 core CPU to do homework or even actual work at the moment.
But BOINC's GPU support depends strictly on the project in question, the ones I'm joined to at the moment do support my GPU and CPU.
smoky rose
Hmm, can you create a linux vm in mac os and pass the gpu through to it?
limber oyster
It'll lose performance.
And I'm not even sure that passing a GPU through on MacOS is possible. The system has such weird access to hardware and weird soft locks. I'd be more worried about the Linux VM crashing whenever MacOS randomly decided it wanted to use the other GPU.
My system is one of the dual GPU MacBook Pros.
storm talon
speaking moistly
plain geyser
is there anyone to control multiple computers thats folding on one computer?
anyway*
It's kinda annoying checking each pc one at a time π
limber oyster
I really wish XGrid wasn't dead...
smoky rose
@plain geyser Remote management through the Advanced Controls.
smoky rose
Operating system(s)? Local or remote network?
plain geyser
local on the same Router windows 10
I left the Ip configuration unchanged
shoudl i mod that
smoky rose
Restart FAH after making changes to the configuration. Or simply reboot the computer.
plain geyser
oh okay thank you
smoky rose
127.0.0.1 is localhost = only allows connections from the same machine.
What is your local ip address?
dusky seal
and the points have started π
sterile reef
after banging my head for a half hour, finally got folding on my Manjaro laptop XD
plucky quiver
were you having issues with the post install script?
I was having issues with that on an ubuntu machine that i'd be okay with leaving on 100% of the time
dusky seal
the whole arch base would have had me getting an express ticket aboard the nope train
plucky quiver
but I like the more known quantity ubuntu
storm talon
debian.
sterile reef
nah, wasn't running a terminal in root. Had to actually go to the opt/fah folder and open a root term there to get it to actually save the config.xml
dusky seal
i tend to either run ubuntu or centos
dusky seal
5.... ew
dusky seal
i despise anything below 6 due to initd
sterile reef
dusky seal
rofl
plucky quiver
I took a linux admin class in college where we used 5.11
dusky seal
im sorry
sterile reef
LMAO
plucky quiver
and I like to say it's my favorite
we used 7 too
but there were some packages at the time that were more stable on 5
dusky seal
6+ is better just due to being able to use systemctl
sterile reef
I'm quite enjoying manjaro, suites my needs and runs great on my laptop.
plucky quiver
I have a CentOS 5.11 tramp stamp
brittle coral
ayyyy, broke 10m while i was asleep
dusky seal
i despise initd as a systems engineer
plucky quiver
I'm sorry I hardly know you but we can never be friends
until you let the light of 5.11 in to your heart
dusky seal
so much easier to diagnose and troubleshoot stuck or failing processes with systemctl
plucky quiver
lol
storm talon
I stopped using centos a few years ago when i tried a debian instance and it performed like 400 times faster
dusky seal
thats why they swapped lol
plucky quiver
my work decided to be a windows shop so it's all C# all the time
and windows server gives me hives
dusky seal
oh dear
plucky quiver
one of our core apps is a VB 6 application
dusky seal
ill happily take centos 5 over windows server
dusky seal
vb? please dont tell me you mean visual basic
dusky seal
i am so sorry
plucky quiver
not VB.NET
VB6
I just drink and listen to a lot of linkin park and it doesn't hurt anymore
(that was a joke I don't struggle with alcohol abuse but the first two linkin park albums slap)
dusky seal
i remember when my dumb self tried to go to college after working in the field first... they handed me vb6 and i almost started crying
plucky quiver
trust me I've worked with it for a year and you don't stop crying
dusky seal
i had been working with c++, js and node so being handed vb i wanted to go die in a hole
plucky quiver
yeah but if you can handle that feeling all the time you can make 6 figures 2 years out of college
plain geyser
What is your local ip address?
@smoky rose oh i see okay i think i got it to work thanks!
smoky rose
I'm going to bed. If @plain geyser returns and have problems using Advanced Control to remote their other machine. Allow ip need to be changed.
hah, ok. Good.
plucky quiver
what a coincidence lol
smoky rose
If you changed it to a single machines ip then it only works on that ip. If you change it to something like 192.168.0.0/24 it works from all ips in the 192.168.0.1-255 range.
plucky quiver
it doesn't have to but it looks like it supports it
useful if you have all of your folding nodes on a specific subnet
brittle coral
considering how many supercomputers and such are run on subnets its not surprising
AWSfolds and others took advantage im sure
plucky quiver
I don't remember subnetting anymore, but I can pretend that I do if anyone needs help adding multiple computers to their FAH control panel
brittle coral
i failed out of my CCNA class because i couldn't wrap my around subnetting subnets
subnetting i was able to do okay but add that extra layer of complexity and all hell breaks loose in my brain
smoky rose
It's all there in the configuration window.
plucky quiver
my IT department head is going for his PhD in Linux administration and he liked to sort of cross skills between networking/hardware/software
brittle coral
jo im sitting here clicking that tryina X out
i am clearly not all the way awake yet
plucky quiver
so my project once was coding a subnet calculator
also please do not read the documentation, it makes the rest of us look bad
brittle coral
hahahahaha
smoky rose
I'm in isolation. I play Factorio, watch movies and read FAH documentation.
plucky quiver
at least it ends at FAH documentation
I swear if you read the man pages I'm calling the police
brittle coral
i need to game some today lol my f@H farm was online all of yesterday for the first time
or at least, once i got it set up
smoky rose
@plucky quiver Challenge accepted.
plucky quiver
"so how did you spend your quarantine?"
"I read the man pages"
let's not lose our humanity one month in to isolation
plucky quiver
that's forbidden knowledge
smoky rose
Is this when I make a sanity roll?
plucky quiver
yeah DC18
smoky rose
Nah, think I'll continue my reading. Don't need no sanity check.
storm talon
do man man
smoky rose
and then immediately divide by zero
You will need a large bag of salt for the circle before you do any of that.
folding@evga: 3.8 weeks
Anywho, sleep. Good nite!
brittle coral
night jo
im just sitting down for dinner here
which for me is breakfast
xD
yesssss
no more terrible boot times on an old bottlenecked SSD that needs to be secure erased because its only reading as fast as a USB stick
120gb 840evo OUT, 500gb 860 evo IN!
wtf the camera really messed that photo up
no more waiting several minutes for my dedicated folder to reboot only to get up to go check why its not up yet, to arrive to it JUST booting into the OS
that 120gb evo was a partial design of the full 500gb 840 evo, that wasn't as fast already, but also was very easy to run through its total write lifespan doing distributed computing because you'll basically write the whole drive in no time many times over at 120gb, especially with half of it taken up running windows
thick holly
All profits from these t-shirts will be used to fund efforts around COVID-19 research and relief in Canada. Each dollar raised toward those efforts will be matched toward Folding@Home by Intel, up to a maximum contribution of $40,000 USD. https://www.lttstore.com/products/folding-home-x-linus-tech-tips-t-shirt
brittle coral
dude holy shit one of my friends ended up on tosh.o's facebook feed after a photo of him wearing a tv as a full head mask in target went viral
i told him to pump folding@home while on the show if he ends up there
he folds some on his photo editing PC
storm talon
I had to cancel my tshirt order because they couldn't change the size. gonna reorder, but just a note, order the right size the first time guise!
brittle coral
lmao word
limber oyster
BOINC isn't very popular is it?
I'm noticing it says that I'm 33.33% of the resource share for the LinusTechTips_Team
fierce steppe
For what project?
limber oyster
Rosetta@Home
brittle coral
it used to be more so for some
rosetta isnt very popular, more people run milkyway@home and seti@home ive noticed
limber oyster
I wanted to focus on COVID research
brittle coral
but like, when i was the top contributor to team anandtech i accounted for about 1/3 of their compute yea
fierce steppe
Whats your boinc stats link?
33% would be impressive
brittle coral
what's rosetta doing for covid?
fierce steppe
same thing as folding
limber oyster
^
brittle coral
word
limber oyster
I don't know how to get my stats link
brittle coral
yea back when i did boinc most people that wanted to do proteins stuff did F@H
limber oyster
I screen captured it though
I barely started working on it today, so my work done is still 0
fierce steppe
Yeah, that doesn't mean you're 33% of the teams production
Resource share
The amount of computing resources (CPU time, disk space) allocated to a project is proportional to this number. The default is 100.
Note: At World Community Grid this option is titled "Project Weight".
Note: this is not a percentage. If a computer has 2 projects added, each with resource share 100, each project will get half the resources.
If a project is given a resource share of 0 it will not receive any resources unless other projects are unable to provide tasks. Using the value 0 is known as 'setting a backup project': you are advised always to leave at least one project with a non-zero resource share, otherwise the backup project system cannot function normally.
I mean I did say I was 33% of the resource share
So what does that mean? Is it 33% of the resources of my machine?
fierce steppe
Yes, it's what resources the project is using of your system
limber oyster
Oh can I adjust it?
fierce steppe
Probably
limber oyster
Just gotta figure out how
fierce steppe
This is what I've gathered from 4 seconds of googling
I haven't BOINC'd in 10 years
limber oyster
it can use ~75% of my total CPU and I won't notice a difference...
fierce steppe
Someone who boincs regularly can probably help you set it up
limber oyster
I think I found it
frozen peak
running boinc/dreamlab on my devices but with overkill active cooling so they don't explode
yeah I know phones aren't nearly as powerfull as pc's but hey why not
limber oyster
It's something.
brittle coral
hha i just came from the garage after adjusting the blower fan that's cooling my folders
ill go take a pic
Fan is on medium
I just turned it to high to test but it's probably not necessary
Dang, I turned it to high and the temp on the 980ti dropped 8c
From 66 to 56 in a minute
er 64
stark bough
@frozen peak How is that? Whered you source the parts? Was thinking of doming something similar.
Actually been thinking of those graphite pads instead of TIM to contact the sinks
Lol you sinked a USB power brick too.
frozen peak
oh no it's just heatsinks sitting on the screens, they're very flat so pretty good contact
and a K'nex frame
really just the fan is probably good enough, but I have a bunch of those heatsinks from old wine coolers so why not
stark bough
I should probably getknex again.
Just because ive done a few projects that needed a non conductive frame/scaffolding.
Lol i used my molymod more than oncefor support
brittle coral
lmfao
thats kinda how it is tbh
i have a bigger one that can do 3200cfm
but i'd have to mov ethe toolbox and box it's on to open the airflow channel up further
since that fan is 3x the size of the blue one
it has like a 30-40cm blower in it
diameter
stark bough
My rig is adding a 340W base load to my home heating including cooling and fans getting the air where it needs to go
balmy gyro
Who needs a heater when your pc can heat your room while helping to cure covid19
brittle coral
my dedicated folder heats up the garage enough that im not freezing when i go out there now
its comfortable
card idle temps are reading 22c
21 on some other parts in the system lol
oooh snap one of them hit 19c xD
but its warmer than that at torso level
rig is on the floor
so its official
i need to hunt for more p106 miners
360-380kppd and they are probably really cheap
eh, more like about the same as an RX580 on ebay lol
forest sapphire
Haha nice!!!
balmy gyro
Hey my pc randomly shuts down after about an hour or 2 of folding anyone know why?
rich depot
Temps?
stark bough
Is there a power setting that turns off your computer 2 hours after screenshut off?
That or someone watching the power bill is shutting off your rig
modest yarrow
lol @stark bough if someone was that generous
brittle coral
so, am i the only one in here folding on a 5700xt or similar?
im trying to compare my temps
rich depot
@brittle coral temps are really hard to compare, different ambient temps, different cases, different gpu's, different humidity, etc
brittle coral
yea im just curious because im trying to compare a delta temp vs the core temperature itself
which in my case that all doesn't matter
because i want to know if they have a high delta between core temp and hot spot, at all
i've been an enthusiast/overclocker for 12 years and building systems for 20 π
also, it'll all be moot data in a couple weeks when my water block gets here, im just annoyed because there's like a 15-20c delta between core temp and hot spot rn while folding and its way higher than i'd like lol
rich depot
yeah understandable
spark salmon
I'm happy to have been a part of this effort and I'm definitely getting one of those shirts.
brittle coral
ayyyyy
same
that im here folding when it matters, specifically
that i can contribute as much power as i am as well, and that i still have more possible to bring online with some work
smoky rose
Is it me or is our hourly production a little low at the moment?
Oh, network is a bit low on GPU work units.
rich depot
@spark salmon gotta be fast, seems they shut off the presale of the shirts tomorrow
@smoky rose looks like default is keeping up, they are doing great
brittle coral
yea
its low
my friend has one of two rigs down without work at all and my 980ti and a p106 both dont have work
im installing drivers on my 3rd rig now for the 7950 and then im gonna go out and stick the p106 that isn't up yet in that once it's got those drivers done. i may have to wait a bit though since my back is currently seized up from all the work lol
to many PCs lifted
rich depot
I think its also a bit of luck if you get wu's or not at this moment
brittle coral
thankfully i live in CA and make my own cannabis topicals or i would not have finished this folding rig tonight xD
rich depot
and nice, but take care of yourself first
brittle coral
yea i am i just got VNC going on the rig and i can rest now in my chair here
heat pad for the back ect
tryina figure out why my pain meds didnt kick in super hard this time, and its been long enough i can almost take more but i try to avoid it before sleeping cause i sleep better without to much
slate lake
brittle coral
im legit so tight that i can't start most yoga poses
=/
i need assisted physical therapy lol
which i happen to have a prescription for a specialist for, just with the whole shelter in place social distancing thing it makes me nervous to even be around healthcare areas
rich depot
@brittle coral here in the netherlands the hospitals are calling patients to ensure its safe for them to go there for their normal appointments. So you might wanna call the specialist and just ask what they think π
brittle coral
well im not getting that rig working right now
the 7950 wont boot
the 290x wont post
the 7850 is the only one that will, and its going out to a friend
so i have nothing to run the last p106 for monitor output xD
i may grab one more card
rich depot
Do you need monitor output though?
Hi spotty spectrum
In my experience not all mobos will let you run headless without without a valid video output device
not sure if having a mining GPU lets you get around that
fierce steppe
Is it me or is our hourly production a little low at the moment?
@smoky rose If you check the aggregate stats or production of other teams everyone has had a drop across the board.
Maybe before when we were higher it was still crediting WUs that weren't credited properly earlier or catching up on missed updates or something
rich depot
I thought somebody mentioned we are low on gpu wu's
We are expecting a decent drop from the event ending too, many people scale back, especially if they use cloud compute
:( that is sad
fierce steppe
Don't think it's a WU shortage... I've had constant WUs last few days
Best production I've had for last month
rich depot
But might explain also why default is now producing more points than ltt is
And yeah, seeing a very small shortage even on beta branch, but not sure if that is the number of WUs that are available or a distribution issue
So looking at the servers, the number of jobs being handed out is quite high at 135k per hour, but the number of WUs ready is somewhat low
Weird
30-50% of servers currently have no WUs ready to be assigned
brittle coral
5700xt and p106 are both offline right now, been offline a while lol
rich depot
Not really, the servers have been expending so can divvy out more WUs than ever, there are 350k WUs currently left in the pool
fierce steppe
If you compare Default to LTT you see that the daily production follows the same trend of peaks and drops. The big drops and spikes are where it doesn't pull the stats and then catches up the next day
brittle coral
fasho lol
fierce steppe
Both LTT and Defaults production has dropped pretty much equally in the past few days
brittle coral
and spectrum, im not trying to run headless, im just tryina get a working GPU to work so i can also fold on the nvidia card lol
i already have one working that way in another rig
its just not got a WU right now XD
rich depot
^^ also there have been some issues where F@H have had to issue stat corrections due to servers not reporting the points to the central repository, so this makes it seem like a big spike in production as there weren't failed stats updates, it's just the folding servers getting synced up
brittle coral
yea lol
you talked about that a day or 2 ago
i just wish downtime on my end wasn't a thing xD i set my room's airflow around keeping it at a specific temp expecting them to stay at load as well
no heat = cold. to little air when lots of work = to hot
rich depot
Lol
I believe that for cpu tasks BOINC has more wu's. So you might consider running boinc for cpu to get some heat and F@H for gpu
fierce steppe
According to the overtake predictions we're now sooner to overtake Curecoin than Default
rich depot
@fierce steppe Yeah but those are delayed. If you look at the last 6 updates you'll see they are doing more points than we
fierce steppe
Yeah, it's based off of the 24hr average
rich depot
Maybe more, not exactly sure and I'm on mobile
fierce steppe
They're doing a little more than us at the moment
rich depot
Its weird how that happened. It looked like it was together with the drop of aws, but its hard to pinpoint it at 1 user
brittle coral
success
i tracked down a card to run that other p106
my friend isnt using my 3rd 290x anymore xD
that i thoguht was off the table
fierce steppe
that amazon one is new
coral terrace
My card has been running WU sporadically, which I don't mind as much. Just happy to contribute when needed.
wraith echo
Hmm... On my Ubuntu 19.10 machine the "On Idle" doesn't seem to be working right. The machine isn't doing anything, but the status has been "Paused: waiting for idle" for a few days now.
fierce steppe
CPU or GPU?
What's the power slider set to?
brittle coral
okay, going to bed, but here's my latest modification. i forgot about the whole i have floor speakers roughly at the height of my also incredibly tall case. so now i have a blower fan aiming into my PC that's on my desk as well the same as the one in the garage lmao. temps have improved enough to pull my clocks back up a bit on the underclock
after i sleep it's game competition time, then up to san rafael to get my 290x xD
rich depot
@wraith echo on idle means once the screen locks afaik, on windows it means when the screensaver kicks in/when the screen powers off
stone mason
Need some help! New folder here and I tried following the process laid out in this video posted to the LTT Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU4qOebhkfs
I can only get the my CPU to do the folding, my GPU just sits and does nothing. I am running a R5 2600 and a overclocked 1080. I'd like to be able to use the GPU when the PC is not being used, and not use the CPU, just like in the video. But for some reason can't seem to get it to work. The CPU folding works fine though, just not the GPU. Please help!!
stone mason
I have that opened
stone mason
Yup, I see the GPU and CPU. Right now they are both running, when I first installed the GPU was sitting unused, not sure what changed all of a sudden
Where do I find the log?
smoky rose
Third tab
stone mason
Got it
smoky rose
If it looks like mine do at the moment, "No WU bla bla configuration", then there is nothign you can do.
There are no jobs available at the moment.
stone mason
This is what is showing in that tab
smoky rose
If it says anything else copy the full log and upload it to pastebin.
Get a screenshot of System Info too.
stone mason
I think I got it working like in the video. Gonna keep an eye on it. Thanks for the help! Do you recommend just running my GPU or should I run my CPU along with it? Both the gpu and cpu are overclocked, not sure if that matters.
smoky rose
Folding will push your cpu and gpu to the max.
Heat can become an issue.
AMD or Nvidia GPU?
How many threads on the CPU?
stone mason
Ryzen 2600, 6 core 12 threads with a all in one liquid cooler. Zotac 1080 AMP! with the liquid cooler/NZXT G12 mod.
smoky rose
You can enter any number from 1 to the number of threads your CPU supports.
If you have GPUs, F@H reserves one CPU per GPU to feed it data across the PCIE bus.
F@H has difficulty with large primes and their multiples number of CPUs.
7 is always large, 5 is sometimes large, and 3 is never large. Try to choose a number that is a multiple of 2 and/or 3.
2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 12, 16, 18, 24, 27, etc. are good numbers of CPUs to choose.
5. 10. 15, 20 etc may work most of the time. Other numbers will bite you.```Run them both.
rich depot
I've taken my CPUs offline as they are just not very efficient, especially as summer heat has started early this year on Britland
smoky rose
Deny the enemy work units! Run both CPU and GPU! π
boreal flume
huh that's interesting about the CPU counts
stone mason
@rich depot I might do that too. It's not hot here in the Eastern part of the US. But I just compaired the points earned between the two and the cpu is being killed by my gpu. gpu: 770869 vs cpu: 59898. I also don't want to kill my power bill lol
boreal flume
so would running 30 cores be better than 31?
smoky rose
The client will reduce the number of cores used.
boreal flume
I have a 3950x, and haven't seen any issues running fah at full power with 31 cores and have been even able to play games while it's running
smoky rose
Check the log if you see something about reducing threads.
boreal flume
yep
16:21:47:WU00:FS00:0xa7:Reducing thread count from 31 to 30 to avoid domain decomposition by a prime number > 3
It looks like it's only fully utilizing 28 threads
still getting like 400000 ppd off the cpu Β―_(γ)_/Β―
smoky rose
I've been some kind of intel fan since forever. If they don't release some kind of miracle quite soon I'm getting a threadripper.
boreal flume
I had a 4790k until I got a 1700
I just go with whatever makes sense for me, and I've only recently been able to spend more than $200 on a cpu
solid thunder
how does anyone get any ppd off a cpu? how big are the big cpu jobs?
biggest i've seen is 1.25 mil steps
boreal flume
rn my job has 500,000 steps
I've been fed pretty well with WUs until recently it seems
my gpu is just waiting
rich depot
There is a current slight shortage of WUs on the network, more should be released soon
boreal flume
it's kinda celebrated
but stores are still open
I used to live in poland, and that's like one of the most religious countries in the world. so it's quite different here
rich depot
Yeah, poland is almost as bad as vatican city.(technically also a country)
smoky rose
I'm folding on my laptop with a 1060. My thighs are anything but cold.
rich depot
π
my gpu can't find a job an my cpu is only using 2 of the 12 threads to keep the fan noise down during the day
I should rewatch that last video from Gamers Nexus about air vs aio
smoky rose
I allowed myself to be tricked by the brand "Republic of Gamers". Ok, I can accept that this machine is not able to fold on both cpu and gpu without hitting thermal problems.
But even when I'm gaming it becomes very clear that it can not cool itself properly.
smoky rose
Yeah, I can...but I'm not motivated enough. Yet.
honest silo
i reinstalled the FAH client and now my score is reset
smoky rose
Hmm, do the client keep track of points locally?
It must be as it shows the correct points when the stats have not been updated
honest silo
but its also reset on the stats page
rich depot
did you use the same passcode? or did you forget to add that? @honest silo ?