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when trying to upload the results and server be like "please wait"
22:18:06:WU01:FS02:Upload complete
22:18:06:WU01:FS02:Server responded PLEASE_WAIT (464)
22:18:06:WARNING:WU01:FS02:Failed to send results, will try again later```
anyone else taking a hit from lack of work ?
i was pumping out over 1,000,000 points daily, now the way low
@keen hill Overclocked? Crappy cooler?
stock cooler
could be just hwmonitor being trash as usual
Well, that stock cooler is not up for the task.
Limit your cpu folding slot to half your number of cores and see if that makes a difference.
Configure -> Slots -> CPU -> Edit
CPUs
12
can i limit the workload on my gpu reliably? I dont like running my FE 1070 ti at 80 degrees all the time
Underclock it?
ayyy guess who broke 6m while i was asleep
Wild guestimate: You?
is it just a matter of lowering voltage in bios? i know some GPUs handle that via software, idk what FE cards use
Don't know. Never done it myself.
correction, just realized i have CAM, it gives me the option to underclock, im going to give that a try
thanks
I could be wrong, but I think if you lower your power/temp limit, the GPU should automatically underclock to compensate
power and temp are autobottlenecks AFAIK
I drop my power/temp to 50 to drop my power draw.
dunno if id be more stable by dumping my core clock, but its been working for me
just replaced the stock TP on my cooler. seems to be 4C lower
3700X
temp fluctuations seems to less extreme too.
I'd see a 4-7C bounce within 3 -4 seconds of running my 3700x on stock paste using stock cooler.
now it seems to be a lot more even when folding. also that stock paste was gummy AF
@dense blaze
hi there, sorry
im downloading msi afterburner cause CAM didnt seem to be working
ill try that and see if it works
ice effectively lowered power draw by doing this. in theory you should be able to cause your system to thermal throttle on its own.
probably the best way is to toy around with dropping core clocks
outside of these sliders. votage curves
check out jays two cents videos on utilizing afterburner to overclock
personally id prefer to underclock
and basically do the opposite
^
yeah i dont want to overclock this card, under clocking is my goal
fortunatly, theres quite a few videos on undervolting on pascal that hit major hype during the mining days
smh it wont send
i havent put aside time to find one i liked yet though
i jumped on that bandwagon far too late unfortunately
What server is that WU trying to send to? (IP Address)
hmm, I don't know what "CS" is, but it doesn't have it
collection server
It also only has 6 TiB of space, so IDK if that has anything to do with it?
Oh right, yeah. what's the collection server IP?
thats where its sending too
i mean hmm
looks like a little bug
their server is m isconfigured
I'm not sure how collection server assignment works, but hopefully it finds a server soon
linus' was the same when they first lit it up
wonder if they know
probably not
yea there's not much you can do
rip
I think you're boned. You may have to delete the solt and readd it to get rid of that wu
i've gotten a couple work orders that won't send after a couple days I just deleted them.
stop the f@h service/process go to the work folder and delete the work unit.
so close to 1mil ๐
its been stuck like this for a while, is it a wifi problem or something else?
uh idk what that means
Are you just running FAH locally on your PC, or did you setup another computer and are viewing that computer remotely from some other PC?
local
no someone told me to get rid of it
Yeah... so you probably closed it LOL
He was trolling you
oof
type in "folding" and you should be able to restart it
ok
If it doesn't start, you might need to manually close it in task manager and try again
I just ran into this issue earlier today when my client just vanished, lol
i was just gonna do a quick wu before bed but one of them says eta 1.5 days, is it worth it?
i mean what points are on it
lol
which number is that
lol nvm it updated its super quick
๐ฉ
also its just my second day and im at 300000! idk if thats good but for me it is
That's actually really good, especially in this WU drought that is kinda still happening
The best I got so far from 3 GPUs and 11 CPU slots was 1.4 million in one day
Default team has made a billion more points than we have today
@fierce steppe Last 24 hours: +1.6B for us
Today: +1B for us
Where are you getting that they have made more than us?
Doh
I mixed up the tabs.
Never mind me.
Ok, so we are under fire from Team Default. Are we going to allow a bunch of anons to beat us? It's time to start calling distant relatives and have them join. ๐
Who fired up the super computer and left it on default/anonymous?
https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=811139
That Amazon guy got drunk again?
hmmm
ahahahahaha
check the other big teams, see if they have a drop
some of their clients might have ended up flipping from folding from their team to not folding for a team
someone forgot to set their team to ltt ๐
that too
evga is down to 4.3 weeks. ๐
jo didn't I say the other day that it was going to be logarithmic
Did I disagree?
nope, just interesting to see my prediction come to fruition
we could probably model it in python if we wanted to do some predictions
there'd have to be an easy way to pull the data tho, www queries ain't gonna help... do they have an api on eoc?
Easy way of doing it I found is buying cheap cpu heavy linux servers from hosts for like 2.99 euros and just leaving it on full for a month.
that's basically what i'm doing, except with my own bare metal
if you guys are looking for cheap vps tho, vpsville.com has great options all around the world. dealt with them before I went full ISP/MSP
there'd have to be an easy way to pull the data tho, www queries ain't gonna help... do they have an api on eoc?
@storm talon You can pull the F@H stats directly from the F@H stats server
oh yea? is there a reference?
yea that's just the web interface, not the backend api that I was asking for
but thank you!
Did you download the .txt files?
What exactly are you trying to pull?
well i came home with a haul that's for sure. guy who was selling the 1070 loaned me not one but TWO 1060s, sans mount bracket and one has no fans, so just gotta rig something up to support them, and sold me a 1200w seasoning focus for $50 with all cables
bout to have another 2Mppd
more once i get the 980 as well but i need to figure out what rig that's going in now lol
my godl mao
that super computer
@fierce steppe any idea who it is?
Also wow @ the fans on this 1060. The other is fine.
nice
yea lol
also while i was prepping my rig for my 580 the 5700xt lost it's last screw for the fans+shroud for the heat sink, i zip tied it back on
it blocked the PCI-e slot lock from setting as well but i screwed it in and it's secure for now lol
hahaha
thats fine
dude like it may look ghetto but if it works
it works
i bought a bunch of 7850s that had shyte fans
but the HSF was super exposed on top
full view on that end
so i put a 2000RPM 140mm fan over the block of 3
dropped the dies 15c
er no i put a 3400rpm fan on it hahahaha
i remember that thing it sounds like a damn blender is running in the kitchen
bruh
my thin fans were like jet engine on my old refurbish
sadly that pc's mobo went oof
damn dell
unreliable crap
pick 2 that cable management
tbh the only cable I see is this
but that's because rgb
yes i am running e5300 shut up
my new build is ryzen 5 2600 ok
just need to get it working first
update bios and crap
blur yes
anyone have any idea why my work unit isnt getting an assignment?
did you just start it up?
yeah
okay cause 2 of my 3 folding slots are active, its just the 3rd thats being a pain
dude i had an e5300
those things overclocked pretty well xD
and yea
this rig is going in the garage
the other one idgaf about cables so much
its still pretty
case door is going on the nvidia rig
i ran into some stability issues, with another card under it heating the 5700 the junction temp was waaaaay to hot so i underclocked it and decided its not acceptable long term so i ordered a corsair waterblock for it
gonna clean my WC gear this week i guess and leave it underclocked till it gets here
junction temp is now peaking at 89c with core at 75c with my new fan and underclock/undervolt profile
going back to building the nvidia rig now xD
not letting my main one be unstable
to bad i cant stand my 3400rpm fan
or i'd stick it in this rig on that card as well. didnt help much when i tested with it though
ait finally to loading drivers on the nvidia rig xD
also my friend's keeping his 980 now lmao he is getting a board from a friend to run it and whatever else he has with his 2700k, and i was running out of space
nice
ugh this driver is causing me issues installing
this is the 3rd time i've started the nvidia driver install and it hasn't completed the first 2 times lol
it just stopped randomly twice at totally different spots
my 2070 is like 
anyone that can answer a question for me?
yea
what question
also, anyone have any idea why a pair of 1060 headless (for mining) might not show up when I installed the drivers along with a 1070? its only showing the 1070 in device manager
isnt showing in device manager, same issue as last night only it's not the power cable this time, i don't think. gonna go tweak it anyway but thought i'd ask again. @smoky rose if you're awake lemme know what you think lmao
hah so they ARE showing up in device manager, as "other devices" as "3D video controller" im pretty sure
in other news 1070 is predicting 630k ppd now on this WU ๐ at least that's working
nvm crisis averted
they showed up when i added slots
they just showed upand went to work
Hmm my GPU folding stopped (was working a few days ago), now the logs claim to have downloaded a WU and then on start it fails..
Apr 09 10:13:02 tiamat FAHClient[112543]: 09:13:02:WU01:FS00:Download 52.82%
Apr 09 10:13:07 tiamat FAHClient[112543]: 09:13:07:WU01:FS00:Download complete
Apr 09 10:13:07 tiamat FAHClient[112543]: 09:13:07:WU01:FS00:Received Unit: id:01 state:DOWNLOAD error:NO_ERROR project:11777 run:0 clone:4908 gen:37 core:0x22 unit:0x0000003b287234c95e73c42c0e3b81d9
Apr 09 10:13:07 tiamat FAHClient[112543]: 09:13:07:WU01:FS00:Starting
Apr 09 10:13:07 tiamat FAHClient[112543]: 09:13:07:ERROR:WU01:FS00:Failed to start core: OpenCL device matching slot 0 not found, try setting 'opencl-index' manually
Anyone experienced that?
Nope. Have you tried rebooting?
i figured it out
100% they running ๐
ITS ALIIIIIIIIVEA
ALIVE!
also
i had to do that twice on my gpus
if rebooting doesnt help
you can start from 0
and set the value till it works
i had to do it for both 1060s
and every other multi gpu i've done so far i had to set the gpu manually
Just read this on FAH's news section, pretty neat!
"Over the past three weeks, over 700K citizen scientists have joined the Folding@home project. This 20-fold increase in participation has given us unprecedented compute power to bring to bear on COVID-19. In fact, Folding@home is the first computer to achieve the exaFLOPS scale and is now estimated to be more powerful than the next top 100 supercomputers combined."
yea
thats out of date now btw
they not only broke the exaflop mark
they broke 2 today
or actually, i need to check
if AWSfolds stopped then they may have not
it was predicted to
these WUs are taking longer than they should and my cpu is getting absolutely slammed in this rig
im gonna go afk and wait for the last CPU wu to finish and see how the gpus are without it in the way lol
hey guys, any idea why my GPU miners are each taking up to 25% of a core?
of cpu
on my main rig its like 1.5-5% max
but on the dedicated folding rig its like 25% each and its def slowing things down
no idea why it's so slow
core clocks are where they should be as well
cpu is 47c @4ghz rn
no oc
No clue @brittle coral, I'm seeing anywhere from 8-15% CPU usage on GPU jobs. I guess it depends on your CPU/GPU combo, but there's definitely some CPU overhead
sholdnt be quite this much though
anyway i reinstalled the client and now im stil lseeing the same overhead but at least on my 1070 theres no delay in wu completion time yet
but its also the only card with a WU yet
2hrs left 11% done, moving along as expected
if it grinds to a halt when more come in i may need to put one of these cards into another rig
right now FaHCore_22.exe is using 26% cpu
avg 25-27 rn
vs on my all AMD rig where its never above 5%
even on the same WUs
my 5700xt is doing 11778 right now same as the 1070 so i can compare directly
even accounting for a cpu with 4x the threads and 2x the hardware it shouldn't be using that much CPU i'd think, an 8350k isn't THAT much slower than a 3800x xD
im gonna have to ping my friends running nvidia cards when they wake up later and see what they're getting
well i have 15% on my I7 9700K usage when running a GPU WU
RTX 2080
that seems to be the discrepancy
yea
fuck
i may need to split this up
because when i pause both 1060s its fine
the 1070 goes full tilt
and theres like 75% cpu left
but when another starts
even though theres still plenty of cpu left cause everything else is paused
its straight up not running even half as fast
and the more that download the worse it gets
almost makes me wish i'd bought more AMD cards instead with my money but its not the biggest deal, i only paid for one card
my AMD cards use basically zero cpu
maybe its the CPU restricting the GPU
idk
doesnt seem like it would, in games sure but in compute its all about what the cpu overhead is that cant run on the GPU
and since it's all OpenCL it shouldn't matter in theory right?
but apparently not in practice
like, linus would have run into the same problem i'd think, if not for his CPU being absolutely balls to the wall in that vid and having 2 of them lol
i dont think that's compatible
sorry
xD
AGP @_@
well its probably the CPU restricting PCie lanes
1x8+2x4
PCI Express Configurations โก
Up to 1x16, 2x8, 1x8+2x4
maybe, does it need a lot of bandwidth?
idk
i figured it was like most other distributed computing that doesnt
yea independently each card gets pretty decent performance
though this 1060 is not going as hard as i'd expect
also, PCIe bandwidth wouldnt affect CPU utilization lol
it'd just slow down performance without impacting CPU, if anything CPU would go down
dude i think i figured it out
each slot is using the same PGU
GPU*
its not ACTUALLY using the gpus im telling it to
no wonder
yea each one once i let it run full tilt
is running at a rate that only the 1070 can achieve
ok
yea
i figured it out because while only one card is showing up in my monitoring for temps
that one was also tilted
ugh i changed the openCL values and it lost my WU
sent it back to the server incomplete lol
this is super buggy, on both clients it's reading the wrong GPU for each architecture name
in one it told me it was using the 1060s but it used the 1070 for all 3 somehow and in the other it just switched the architecture and model so it says 5700xt/hawaii and vice versa for the 580
er it's ellsmere and navi
lol
so i THINK i know how to fix this, i set each slot to a different opencl value starting from the one that is running properly and working up from there, waiting on work again to test. will see what happens i guess
yea it keeps getting work and instantly failing those slots
im going to take the rig down and remove the cards
deal with it tomorrow lol
lol now that i want to give the CPU more threads again it wont let me use more than 1 it seems despite setting it to 3 and trying to let the client do it itself
It must be the CPU, like I said I'm seeing 9-15% on the two machines I'm running. One is i5-6300HQ, and the other is an i7-8750H
i3 with that much GPU power would probably hurt
Both are running 960 and 1060 respectively btw
just weird to me lol. if the 1070 were faster than the 5700xt i'd consider swapping things for now just so my faster CPU can feed the cards that need it, i guess i'm not gonna bother getting the x3 720 BE out to try and feed nvidia cards either xD
also, i don't think it was
i think it was a config issue with the cards not being set to the right opencl slot
im just to tired to hammer on i want to rest and relax and just watch netflix rather than monitoring this thing non stop
Just guessing here ๐ ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
burned out
i hear you
its just, with the metric's im seeing
all 3 slots were actually going to my 1070
each one got a unit, and when the other 2 were paused, the 1070 would be pegging at 75c running full tilt
i can still tinker with it if someone has an idea for how to fix it, but when i switched it up the other 2 slots just kept rejecting units they got instantly
they'd get one and it'd instantly turn around after trying to start and spit it back to the server
I hear you on that. I obsessed over FAH for 48-ish hours after I started. Once I got my thermals under control and my laptop to not melt I forgot about it
Now I check the stats once every 2-3 days if that
im over a week in lol
im getting a waterblock for my 5700xt because both my temps are unsatisfying and the cooler is breaking on it already
ASrock challenger has shite cooler dont buy it
Haha, well you have a lot of variables at play dude(tte)
i did to save money, thankfully it's reference board so dgaf get a corsair block have a nice day xD
yea
and ty im nb xD
so a bit of both if you will
but yea
lot of variables
haha, well that works
somehow on my AMD rig it detected everything right away
probably because the cards are full display adapters
the 1060s are headless mining cards
i had trouble figuring out if the OS was even seeing them
my plan tmrw is to set up a linux VM
and try firing units at them in there
nVidia hasn't released any new drivers lately, have they?
see if i cant get them working properly
i have no idea
nvidia has always had a slower driver schedule than AMD
but until today i hadn't owned any nvidia hardware in over 10 years
About a week or two ago last I checked @rancid frost. Had BSOD issues and ended up switching to the older "creator" version of the drivers
im gonna hard test this issue with my friend's 1050 he was gonna loan me to test and see if it even works. if it does, it should detect as an adapter properly and not "3D Graphics Accellerator" in device manager
โ๏ธ Studio driver**
My last one comes from 3/23, just making double sure I didn't miss anything.
Yea, that's the one I had issued with @rancid frost
unffff 700k ppd eat those proteins 1070 you can do it
Agreed @brittle coral, Studio all the way
Must be an odd config issue or just overall glitchiness.
I've been running almost 24/7 since then and no issues here.
442.19 whql?
Not running anything weird here @steady knot. On a laptop. Firefox started having weird painting issues, and a couple of BSODs out of the blue. Didn't really affect FAH much but I decided to stick with Studio, it's only a month older 2/3
Like I said, some kind of strange issue.
Laptop drivers can be testy, my buddy's running his 1060 on the same driver because he had similar problems.
cool yea apart from the issues with the 1060 miners not showing up the way i need idk lol
1070 seems fine
Well I'm off to do some coding. Been pushing it off all morning. Nice chatting with y'all ๐
And I'm back after 12 hours of internet outage. It's 2020 ffs...oh, yeah, 2020 is a buffet of crap so...Sir, can I please have another.
Were the event stats from yesterday not posted?
F
wb
i never managed to get the 1060s i got lent working xD
they're still hooked up tho
every time i try to set them up it just ends up making another slot for my 1070 in the same rig
i'd have broken 7m by now if it weren't for all the downtime and some units that got deleted lol
they're 1060 headless miner cards so they aren't detecting the same as a display adapter either lol
First GPU slot is index 0
Second GPU slot is index 1
etc up to 9 for a maximum of ten GPUs which is what FAH supports.
im gonna give it a go again but when i tried before with that
it was spitting units right back
it would download one and immediately kick it back to the server
Oh, that might explain it. Is there a "fixed" driver so you can use them for gaming?
i don't know, might just have to run them in linux
at least they were free loaners
okay last test lol
it just got a wu for the slot i was testing
it started to run it, shut down cause of bad work unit
keeps happening
they keep spitting the WUS back like they're bad
im betting it's the mining firmware
was worth a shot lol at least they're free. linux is the last test if that fails then i'm returning them to the guy who gave em to me and maybe buying another 1070 lol
or a pair of rx580s or something who knows xD
using Windows, Geforce GTX 950M oveclocked, driver version 442.19
Faxon is not running them in linux.
i don't know, might just have to run them in linux
This is really weird
I don't see F@H attempting to find a CPU WU at all.
GPU isn't having any issues getting new WU's
Work slot 02 is the CPU one
Check your log
That's the third tab
The 23 threads assigned to that slot, is that value set as -1 or 23?
There are quite a few projects at the moment that are capped to 12 threads.
You can enter any number from 1 to the number of threads your CPU supports.
If you have GPUs, F@H reserves one CPU per GPU to feed it data across the PCIE bus.
F@H has difficulty with large primes and their multiples number of CPUs.
7 is always large, 5 is sometimes large, and 3 is never large. Try to choose a number that is a multiple of 2 and/or 3.
2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 12, 16, 18, 24, 27, etc. are good numbers of CPUs to choose.
5. 10. 15, 20 etc may work most of the time. Other numbers will bite you```
@smoky rose that value I will find in the log correct?
Configure - Slots - CPU - Edit
I'd try two CPU slots. One 12 threads and one 8 threads.
23 threads = 24 -1 for the GPU
What's weird is that it isn't even attempting to talk to the server to even check it sounds like.
I don't see any attempts or time to next attempt
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Right click the CPU slot, pause, wait a moment, fold
After that copy your entire log and up it to pastebin
Weird
Set the thread count to 8. Just to test it.
23 is prime number so that should be avoided anyways.
Yeah, they mess up this kind of math.
lol
complete reboot of the PC fixed it
It wasn't taking the 8 in the thread count
lost the GPU one I was working on though which sucks
has anyone seen the Day 13 stats. or have a link?
but I am okay with that
anyone getting send issues?
Had tried to send it 10 times but can't and lost all high credit values
140.163.4.231 - Collection Server not connected
@smoky rose Where are you seeing that info?
Just leave it. You can check server status here: https://apps.foldingathome.org/serverstats
cause when I look there I don't see how you can tell that that it isn't connected
Hover the error number.
There is also the column "Has CS"
CS = Connection State?
Collection Server
There are three types of servers.
AS, WS and CS. WS and CS run on the same machine but there are also backup CS.
Don't think I have yet
It's when finished work get submitted to backup CS that the stats are delayed.
WS = WorkUnit Server
Work server, Work unit Server...don't know. But it's the ones you get the work units from.
coo
does anyone know how to check to see how many failed WUs I may have had?
Client connects to Assign Server
Assign server send Client to WS
WS hands out WU
Client do math
Client connects to WS/CS to deliver
Repeat
@edgy iris Your log.
I haven't seen any.. but wasn't sure if that's common or not to have any
Yeah I don't think I have had a failed WU before.
Is someone here who can help me?
What's up @rich depot
I am getting a very low PPD on my 1080 is it due to there being so many people folding now?
PPD is the only way I know how to measure how much I am contributing
I don't know what the average is for a 1080 unfortunatly. I run a 2080ti and I average a ppd of 2.7-3.0 mil.
I am getting 100k on a 1080 and I see many people getting 700k+
Could be something to do with them being overclocked as well
Its not overheated, it has ALL the RAM, and a 9900k to push it
Are you getting less points per WU or less WUs?
Im not sure, how can I find out?
Also with that, yeah the PPD is based on the current one you are folding and if you constantly got those WU's for a 24 hr period
current WU is only worth 13k
Have you set up a passkey?
nope
Do that, you will get more points
is quick return worth more than the WU itself?
@arctic echo its like a 10% boost or something like that
I will do it, but that still means my GPU is only contributing a fifth of what it could do
Also you should set client-type to advanced
Instructions are about halfway through there
I was in a similar situation last week, I was doing ~40k ppd but since adding a passkey and setting client type I'm getting ~750k ppd
223518
Thank you
finally got no overlapping!
That's not only 60 cores more than mine but also has a faster clockspeed
It has a mind of its own, it is now overlapping 32 threads again
thats a hard drop too, your base is 2.9 lol
I need to find a way to assign specific threads
divide them all into separate VMs? (worst idea ever)
no, it's not
it was my first idea
usinf unraid to make 4 vms
buuut
there is some processing loss anyhow
huh I figured making them VMs would just cause even more chaos
now here is the good one, my unraid machine has the folding app and it just folds away, i dont think it cares about max threads, i might just run unraid on this machine and see how it fares
and now my points are in the high 800K range lol
huh I figured making them VMs would just cause even more chaos
@rich depot definitely, I saw the chaos and thought "gonna try something else first"
keep it up @rich depot fight the good fight!
at the end of this month, the power bill will be interesting
we can all blame linus for the power bill ๐
I dont really care about the points but its how I measure how much im helping and seeing my GPU run at 20% strength was kinda infuriating
yeah about that
My power bill is 0 lol
How do you get it to show just the numbers.. I only could manage this.
mines at 37%, I think its just part of FaHs limitations
Nah
I am just saying 150k points is roughly 20% of what I was expecting compared to others
@edgy iris right click and choose
Maybe your CPU is waiting for a quest
because my GPU is running and my CPU is "ready"
GPU tho
@rich depot its waiting on a unit
Yup waiting for something in the least
check under the Fah core version, it will say waiting on:
theres an over supply of folders compared the number of WUs out there so many people have to wait
yeah but, i find it so annoying, my friend just passed me with 3 million points and he's using a system 6 years older than mine
meh, just be happy to be helping the world
I have like 400WU, he has 40WU and he passed me!
meh, just be happy to be helping the world
@rich depot yeah for real
thats my cup of tea
He is probably getting larger units
he has a xeon, so i think the server architecture has something to do with it
but he is mostly GPU's with 2 gtx 1080Tis
hmmm
are radeon cards good at folding?
I did make some changes to the advanced settings to get bigger loads
I think they would be cost efficient
but not so much strength as other GPUs, although we are using less than 40% of our GPUs as is
@polar folio I'm using an AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, and it seems to be humming along just fine
Theory confirmed
@polar folio I'm using an AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, and it seems to be humming along just fine
@edgy iris thats good to know, I have a readeon 7 laying around with double the memory of a gtx1080 so i figure it might be able to handle bigger workloads... I have to install it tho and I had it in mind for a hackintosh ๐ฆ but anything for more folding powaaaaaa!!!
My current WU
very good TPF under one minute
TPF?
i find anything over 1 minute TPF kind of annoying, because it means something is bottle-necking in this system... it could be different for your systems tho
mines 1 min and 18 sec
it's not bad
But theres no bottleneck here
it's really bad if it's like 8 minutes
It has ALL the resources
last night one of my GPU's failed and it was the WU that had a TPF of 8 minutes
ridiculous
is it ded?
nah, i paused and started it again and it just picked up a new WU
works fine
thankfully, a failed fold doesn't mean a broken gpu
but it does mean time lost (and you lost some ground vs your friend)
but it does mean time lost (and you lost some ground vs your friend)
@rich depot yeah, but like you said, at least I'm helping... c'est la vie
yep!
Here are my settings for bigger workloads and faster downloads starting preparations at 90% of the previous fold, hopefully it works for you guys too
why is my webveiwer not working?
why is my webveiwer not working?
@patent crane couple reasons
it could be cache not letting it load right
so deleting cache can work
also it might be a webviewer from a previopus instance of F@H and it might just be wonky, so closing and opening a new webviewer might work
Here are my settings for bigger workloads and faster downloads starting preparations at 90% of the previous fold, hopefully it works for you guys too
@polar folio word of WARNING before you start, this is useful for computers 8 cores and up
webveiwer is wanky
yeah man, web viewer's a pain in the butt
I try to avoid it, but use it if I want to sample the visuals for some presentation or whatever stream on twitch
Not to mention the 9900k doesnt fold
@rich depot huh?
wha?
@patent crane try loading the web viewer in a different browser.. if you are using Chrome, it's buggy.. I use Microsoft Edge
why? as in why doesn't it fold? 9900k???
ya i just did
@patent crane try loading the web viewer in a different browser.. if you are using Chrome, it's buggy.. I use Microsoft Edge
@edgy iris oh good to know
I dont fold with my 9900k because it causes some instability (I am on my computer almost all day)
ive done 9wu over the past 24hrs
I dont fold with my 9900k because it causes some instability (I am on my computer almost all day)
@rich depot gotcha
ive done 9wu over the past 24hrs
@patent crane ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
hell yeah
little goes a long way
my poor 5 2600
@patent crane how many WU you didnt doesnt really matter. You could have had very large WU and completed few, or gotten many that were small.
measuring with the points is a better measure if you are looking to compare, or just be happy to be contributing like me lol
then i want to look at my total score which is 38,071
is that PPD?
where is PPD?
are you in webclient or in advanced viewer?
client atm should i switch?
you can use either
its under the disease you support researching
is says points per day
find it?
points per day if i allow medium usage so i can still play on my computer is abut 71000
are you using a GPU too?
yes
@patent crane I have like 400 WU's with 2.5 million+ points and my buddy has like 40, only 40 WUs and he already passed my score with over 3.2 million points, and his system is a 4core 8thread form 2014, so I figure you are going to be scoring high points too! Points are calculated by an i5 machine in the F@H headquarters and it is designed to give you the most points depending on how hard it is for your machine to calculate, so if you have a super duper machine you might get less points after all ๐
@patent crane then you can check the GPU and CPU tab for each one of their point amounts
my gpu is getting 379496 PPD
my poor 5 2600
@patent crane in other words, the results your machine makes might surprise you
ya
my gpu is getting 379496 PPD
@patent crane thats like ridiculously awesome
cinabench says its higher than what other 5 2600's get and that gpu is a 580
nice
might have the gpu oc right now
if they are using a 1080 then they ae performing at half strength like I was
@rich depot yeah
yup
which bums me out
My gtx 1080 has the longest TPF so far
it's one of those 8 minute TPF ones
@patent crane based on other peoples data with that GPU you are performing at spec
figured
mine is around a minute
mine is around a minute
@rich depot nice, thats what my 2014 gtx titan is at
i wonder what I'm doing wrong
8 minute tpfs
is it overheated?
hmmm
should i for the fun of it try and see how my computer that has a pentium 4 and a radeon 2600 in it and see how that fairs?
mines on 16x
@patent crane That GPU will not fold.
what about the cpu?
@patent crane That GPU will not fold.
@smoky rose wut, but what about the point estimate?
with all the dust it has instant
interesting
Point estimate? That GPU is not supported. So it will not fold. 0 points per day.
my gpu is getting 379496 PPD
@patent crane yeah @smoky rose this part where he mentions his PPD for the GPU, was this the unsupported GPU?
nononononono
that is a RX 580
did you people notice that the default team is basically getting the same points as the ltt team? for like the last 5 updates
gotcha
I replied to this
should i for the fun of it try and see how my computer that has a pentium 4 and a radeon 2600 in it and see how that fairs?
yeahhhhh
if it could fold i would set it to that but with the information that it cant fold i dont know what im gonna do with it
for the moment
quick general question: What do your GPU settings look like? are the OpenCL and Cuda fields set to -1 or something else?
me
for everyone
-1
I'm trying to figure out my gpus
its the default
cool
It is old. It does not support double precision floating point operations. Therefor it is blacklisted and will not get any work units.
i had to change mine from -1 to something else for the GPUs to start
FaH decides what to do
shrug why not
i dunno
I'm still talking about the 2600.
What GPU do you have @polar folio ?
had to change that -1 to whatever
any tips to lowering my cpu temp without lossing ppd or preformance im sitting at 95c
I'm still talking about the 2600.
What GPU do you have @polar folio ?
@smoky rose i have 2, gtx1080 and 2014 gtxTITAN
2600 topic id ded, it wont work and thats his other computer. Hes using a RX580 in him main rig
@polar folio Three slots. Index 0, 1 and 2.
any tips to lowering my cpu temp without lossing ppd or preformance im sitting at 95c
@patent crane fan? i have mine open case, it helps, and i sometimes aim the A/C at it
@patent crane No. You can lower the number of threads to lower the temp.
Well, there is also the obvious solutions. Reapply thermal compound. Get a better cooler. Add chassi fans. Clean out dust. Move the machine from under the pile of laundry to somewhere it can get fresh cool air.
@polar folio Three slots. Index 0, 1 and 2.
@smoky roseI actually have another NVS 810 that has dual gpu inside it for 2D stuff, but it sucks for folding and 3D, so i have the GPU's assigned to slots 2 and 3
I think my issue lies in the OpenCL and the Cuda indexes
And I misread. Thought you had 2x gtx 1080.
YEah, that looks right if the NVS 810 occupies slot 0 and 1.
yeah, i thought it might cause that confusion too, lol
dual gtx 1080 lol
i have to switch the titan out, maybe it will work better if both cards are the same
if i open the side of my case i get better themals?
if i open the side of my case i get better themals?
@patent crane sure
I have two machines with 8 GTX1080 each. ...in storage and I can't get to them at the moment.
I have two machines with 8 GTX1080 each. ...in storage and I can't get to them at the moment.
@smoky rose holy smokes
if i open the side of my case i get better themals?
@patent crane it gives the hot air a way to leave
Yeah, had I known this damn virus would hit back then I would not have stored them.
wait each macheain has 4 1080
Yeah, had I known this damn virus would hit back then I would not have stored them.
@smoky rose I feel ya man
I think 8 per machine
@patent crane No. Two machines. 8 GPUs per machine.
which is like, a VJ's wet dream
hashcracking
ah
why not ๐
like hell ill take a 1080 XD
hashcracking, projection mapping and video walls, all at the same time
and throw in crysis for good measure
brb fellas, gonna have some breakfast
@smoky rose nice, hashcracking is fun. Haven't done that in a while:( any big improvements in hashcat in like the last year and a half?
I stored them a year ago.
Evening all
'ellu!
What interesting discussions are about?
Curecoin: 6.2 months
Default (Team 0): 4.1 months
folding@evga: 4.1 weeks
We are still doing good.
Thatโs good must admit I donโt know what position ltt was in prior to covid19 or the beginning of this month ๐ Folding noob
I'm new too.
What you running?
better than nothing
Definitely
@toxic crater we were in 8th
Joint TeamLTT today! Service guarantees citizenship.
Haha
Thatโs good must admit I donโt know what position ltt was in prior to covid19 or the beginning of this month ๐ Folding noob
@toxic crater
Oh now I get you
Yeah
Sorry
np
Might be impaired
Ahh, if you read the event blogs you would realise thats the only way to fold
Ahh only way Iโm folding is noise intel stock coolers
Made the jump and threw what I could into working
Coolers are held on by the gravitational force of a Corsair hx1200
They are folding anonymously for Team 0.
https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=811139
Ah, that makes sense why the default team is now equal to ltt basically
I'm just guessing/making wild accusations. ๐
you scared him off blue
Was only subject you to some assumptions haha
That being that that spike looks right for the drop in aws
THEY TOOK OR JOBS !!!!!!!!!!!
Thatโs ec2host so my assumption is
1 people have been jumping on and buying aws โtimeโ
2 someone messed up a config and is not loading an instant that is linked to ec2 user
does aws have a prebuilt instance
maybe they had one that was set to ec2, realized it and changed it to a default sanitized config
What you running Larry? If you donโt mind shouting about it
Indeed haha
And you to @rich depot
@toxic crater not much, ryzen 2600x and rx560
@storm talon how high up the ltt list are you? And did you convince the boss to use the other datacenter too?
@toxic crateryou?
Nice! So now you are at the max?
oh yea, we're pinned
Damn, those cpu wu's don't do shit in terms of points. But very important, so good job Larry!
yea i'm not really doing it for points
Makes sense
total wu's for the certificate on the wall is what i'm after
Haha nice
looks good when clients come in ๐
True
3 rigs (one is off at the moment). Main pc is A10 with R7 built in but only used the R9 nano as the rest only pull in <10k combined
Dam Larry
Is there a reason you have so many cpu space left though in the datacentre? Just normal or did you see a drop in usage?
I heard from a little birdy that a certain store near me has yeast
oh, we're future proofed AF
Yeast?!
when we get an order for one server we order 3
Ah okay
The other two are a evga sr2(off) and evga srx
Okay ๐
No idea what an a10 is, am I supposed to know?
Fair enough
Itโs amd processor the r7 is the inbuilt graphics
The R9 nano is 200-300k ppd
Ah okay
I don't know amd before ryzen so makes sense. Looks like a decent cpu though for normal loada
Loads*
Yeah canโt do VR very well
The srX is so ghetto
Two stock intel coolers pressed down by the power supply ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
event closing up tonight
So wish I had joined the movement sooner to get in on that
I think someone posted this a few days ago asking if it was legit, and it looks like it is
https://www.vodafone.co.uk/dreamlab/
Find out how DreamLab uses the processing power of your phone to help research billions of combinations of drugs to improve the effectiveness and efficiency of cancer treatment in the UK - while you #SleepLikeAHero
so even your phone can help lol
and unlike boinc this can run on android and ios
I can't imagine it being good. Like comparing the top end android phones with a 2080TI and I wonder how many phones you need for 1 gpu
Itโs interesting
What if the shear number of phones itโs more parallel computing esc than fahโs distributed โ. Would that not make a difference
is this setup wrong?
cause my 1080ti can't see get a WU ever
only the 1070 is getting work
How long is "ever" ?
last24 Houras
Ah not that long
and i ahve 2 machines not getting work at alkl
Pause only thr 1080 and start it again. It'll reset the attempts
I have gotten WUs all day
But yeah, there are more folders than wu's atm. And it seems there are more cpu wu's currently
ah i see
If the time for the next attempt goes over 1 hour you can try pausing it and starting again. Don't do it below that, don't want to ddos the servers
i am not folding CPU atm cause the systems over heat if allt he GPU and CPU kick on at the same time
Makes sense
Also keep in mind that wu's are different for different gpu's, so it might just be cause they don't have much for the 1080ti atm
It's not perfect cooling but it brought my CPU down 3 degrees on the laptop that is running the folding software
Haha nice!
what are you doing with the pc under the laptop
It's not currently hooked up, was originally gonna use it as a server but plan on getting it hooked up and folding tonight.
Nice
i have an old pc i would like to turn into a server haven't decided any ideas i would run folding but gpu isnt able to fold and the cpu will die instantaneous panful death
@patent crane nas/media server/ mycroft/ all of those combined
Plex server
Self hosted website, pull out the website from larry so he has more room to fold
Hahahaha we actually only host about... 75 sites, the bulk of our traffic is VPN to the Rds cluster
Ah okay
Web sites actually don't take a lot of resources unless your dealing with huge megadbs
One of our guys goes thru 9tb of traffic he's our biggest client
9tb per how long?
Monthly
Yeah our 95th on the fiber is like 50-60
He is pulling 15 rdp sessions 8-10 hours a day
Anyone seen WUs that have acknowledgment that is in the future?
The what now?
ooooo a new episode of LDT
Linus drops tech ?
@smoky rose FAH Mobile Monitor
:D
It pulls from the log files I think
Iโm going to check but I have had 20 WU that have been acked in the future
I like LST better
source?
a source on my opinion? my brain?
lst
Oh I can't type the S word but its how kids are made
Hey Larry
suh
Actually 1
oh nice
All my parts were on sale so I pulled the trigger
Sales are never bad haha
yea sales are da best
Heck yeah
3600X went from $359 to $299
The 3600 was $279 and went to $249 so I was like u know it's not that bad at all
My first threat but not for long they are going to smoke me so easy
Is the "no work units available for this configuration" something wrong on my end?
I haven't used a GPU on F@H in a very long time
neat
So pretty much chaotic good
Yes
She is not much, but I yoked her up to the herd. She does nothing all day anyway! So I got her a job ๐
@fading sleet every wu counts, you are doing great!
Thanks! I am happy to be here! ๐
Now to see what I've been missing out on without a GPU
@odd barn There are three situations where you get the no wu for your config error.
- The server is busy being DDOS'ed by hundred of thousands of folders and can't take your call at the moment.
- You did something really wonky to your config.
- There really are no WU for your configuration.
1 and 3 are common. Which one it is at the moment...no clue. Result it the same.
2 is unlikely unless you actually went pushing buttons you shouldn't have.
Every time FAH fails to get a new WU the time until next attempt increase. Eventually you will be waiting hours between attempts. You can pause, wait a moment, start again. Now the timer have reset. Do not abuse this as it, if the reason is 1, will only add to the friendly fire DDOS.
@smoky rose Thanks for your reply, looks like it was just #1
It's one or the other. Sometimes it is a game of luck trying to get a WU before someone else snatch it.
There are currently 476K jobs.
When it drops down to half that you can expect quite long times of idle. Unless you are folding on both cpu and gpu. If you do that one, or the other, is bound to pick somthing up.
What GPU did you have previously btw? Running them both now?
this going to be close..
fingers crossed for 10 place
well, to be frank, im pretty happy if someone kick med lower down the list ๐
running 3 2070 Super, 2 RX480, 1 5700XT and 32 cpu cores and not beeing in top 10 is pretty epic ๐
So I had a bunch of old GPUs sitting on my shelf so I threw them in my server to run some folding...
For whatever reason, they're not doing much. Any ideas?
22:50:09:WARNING:WU05:FS02:Failed to get assignment from '18.218.241.186:80': No WUs available for this configuration
Is showing up in the logs. Sort of suggests it doesn't want to work with them?
I've got two 7970s, a 6970 and a 2600xt (which I kinda just threw in for a laugh).
Any idea why the other GPUs aren't getting any work?
well, right now "odd" gpu's are not proriticed for WU's
all servers is used to generate WU for the most common setups
And it's a wrap for the folding event! Thanks to everyone who got involved!
Any idea why the other GPUs aren't getting any work?
@keen cypress not enough work for standard clients, switch to advanced or beta
@acoustic stream in Reg2
does anyone know, off the top of their heads, what the FLOPS for clarkdale processors are? PM me
No idea
@golden zephyr How do I switch to the "advanced" client? I'm running the advanced control interface but I don't think that's what you mean.
we did it boys
Clarkdale FP16 = clock * 12 * 8
Clarkdale FP32 = clock * 12 * 4
@keen cypress
@elder pagoda What did we do?
what does advanced do? @golden zephyr
sorry, noob question, what does FP stand for?
@restive kelp in terms of the FP16 and FP32 above, it means floating point.
flops, floating point operations per second
@golden zephyr I think I've done that right - nothing's immediately started working though so I'll leave it tonight and see what happens. What exactly does running in advanced mode do?
ah. so which one would I use? 16 or 32? or is that architecture?
I've got an overclocked i5 650
16 or 32 bit floating point - denotes the size of the floating point variable.
I imagine the number you're trying to calculate is FP32 FLOP/s.
..I believe so
my rough guess is that 16 is either less accurate or for graphics cards
?
Less accurate.
we'll go 32
16 bit means that it uses 16 bits to store the information. 32 bit uses twice as much data but can handle a much, much larger number.
can I make a script to calculate my flops, or is their a set number for clarkdale?
@smoky rose if my random check of the Team Monthly list is anything to go by... We just beat Curecoin and are now top of the list.
I checked earlier today, and it appears that we are number 1 in monthly
Use that site for more and better views of the stats
But yeah, we are crunching more than any other team.
That is why we have overtake projections of the three teams above us.

