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topaz flame
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almost there

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the dream is all green ๐Ÿ˜›

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regularly I find it like this

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it appears if i get that server, im not going to get a WU

weary epoch
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cool. I'll give that advanced thing a try:
<slot id='1' type='GPU'>
<client-type v='advanced'/>
</slot>
see if that'll get me any funny WUs

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can't hurt I guess

frozen oxide
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I have been running advanced on two GPUs for a week

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and beta on a third

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I've failed one unit out of 100

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and that was only on the R9 nano which also is loud as heck so I'm not likely to keep using it

weary epoch
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do they have a list of all client-type values?

frozen oxide
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no

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there's two listed on that FAQ, beta is not listed

weary epoch
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yeah i noticed

frozen oxide
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the biggest issue I've had with beta units is that I stop folding in the morning when it's time to work (it's too loud/hot in my office otherwise) and start again after 6pm

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and the beta units can take 6-7 hours on a GTX 1070 or R9 nano

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so it's been harder to do "finish" and have it finish its WU's

weary epoch
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they seem to have a very efficient pause/resume checkpointing mechanism

frozen oxide
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sure, but the bonus points are based on finish time - start time

weary epoch
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ah

frozen oxide
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so if you finish after a 9 hour break, it's now a 15 hour unit not a 6 hour unit from their metric

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the bonus points are to incentivize people finishing units and not pausing forever, getting stuff done, not having work tied up on people's PC's for weeks

weary epoch
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right, that makes sense

rich depot
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Hi all, just joined F@H and was wonder if have to do anything special in the web interface to change folding for Covid-19? since there are 4 other research options but not for Covid-19.

frozen oxide
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set it to "no preference"

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there's basically 98% covid units currently

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they are priority anyway

rich depot
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ok good, thought i had to do something specific

frozen oxide
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if you set it to cancer or something it will attempt to do cancer first if there is any work available, then otherwise do covid anyway

weary epoch
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well I just got one after setting client type to advanced. small 23.6K atom unit, but 8 million steps lol

frozen oxide
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yeah the new thing they're doing now with 40x compute power is trying the same protein from more angles

near gazelle
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Coming this weekend (or when I finally get around to it, maybe) The ATOM Supercomputer Super Duper Folding Monstrosity.

frozen oxide
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sheesh

rich depot
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looks intense

weary epoch
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honestly doubtful of how well atoms will handle it. you'll need to grab a lot of WUs and they'll take a lot longer to finish than with say, a quad core i7

near gazelle
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I'm going to build them into a HPC (Cluster)

frozen oxide
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also all that will probably be beat by a single 2080ti >_<

weary epoch
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since we're often limited by how fast they can hand out WUs, a lot of those atoms might end up idle

rich depot
weary epoch
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does FAH work on clusters?

near gazelle
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I believe it will work on Pegasus with some tweaking

frozen oxide
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I am not sure if you can trick it to do that or not... yo ucould definitely run it one client on each system

weary epoch
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can one CPU WU run across multiple nodes? I saw it was using MPIRUN so maybe...

near gazelle
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This will be a 58 core, 116 thread ATOM CPU lol

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@weary epoch I hope so

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It's going to be an experiment at least

frozen oxide
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it seems like fun

weary epoch
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well good luck with that. if you get it working, it'd be nice to know how much message passing it does (like how much network load there is)

near gazelle
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29 mini ITX machines with dual core / quad thread 1.6ghz ATOMs lol

frozen oxide
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that said though... a 3950x 16c/32-thread is beat by a GTX 1050ti, and a 1070 puts out 4x the work... so chances are a single 1080 will beat the atom handily

weary epoch
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MPI screams "I need a really fast really low latency interconnect"

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well yeah, GPUs will win

near gazelle
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I have them, so why not?

frozen oxide
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if it's for the fun of it, then go for it - it's just not that efficient

near gazelle
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435 watts of pure ATOM goodness LOL

frozen oxide
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do atoms have AVX?

near gazelle
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15W TDP each

weary epoch
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it does sound like a xeon phi minus the big vector FPUs, fast memory, and fast mesh intercoonect

near gazelle
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Yeah, they're gigabit NIC only... It's going to be painfully slow to distribute the load, but meh

frozen oxide
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what is the overhead of 29 motherboards and 29 PSU's tho ๐Ÿค”

weary epoch
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which atom is it btw?

rich depot
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so, what power do you guys run, Medium or Full? i'm going to watching some ytube videos or twitch on this computer otherwise it should keep chugging on F@H.

near gazelle
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ONE PSU. They have DC barrel jacks for 12V input

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Going to do one large rail.

frozen oxide
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@rich depot full, and it won't bother your youtube use - the folding work is lower priority

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but maybe turn off CPU slot, or limit it to to N - 2 threads so you have some threads for your browsing to feel snappy

near gazelle
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n2600 on most of the boards I believe

rich depot
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if i set it to medium it uses 7 cores instead of 8, that should be enough right

frozen oxide
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I was even gaming sea of thieves the other night while GPU folding on full - lost about 30 FPS so I went from 120 to 90 but it was completely playable

near gazelle
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2GB on each board. Some have 4gb

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They were "scrap" at work, so I snagged as many as I could put in a box lol

weary epoch
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oh geez N2600 uses the saltwell atom core. that's horrible

frozen oxide
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if pegasus doesn't work.. you could just run a client on each

near gazelle
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Never said they were good lol.. They're painfully slow machines for anything other than industrial applications (which is what we use them for at work)

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They do all have a legit Windows 8 IOT license though

weary epoch
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you might even time out if you ran a WU on each. saltwell is like, a pentium mmx

near gazelle
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So I could do them individually lol

frozen oxide
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hmmm so if you don't have AVX (doesn't look like you do) you're going to go at 1/4 speed again oof

weary epoch
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on higher clocks with tweaks of course

frozen oxide
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it falls back to MMX/SSE

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buut it's not preferred

near gazelle
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Yeah, that's why I wanted to try clustering lol

frozen oxide
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you could also fold on linux, no windows 8 needed, especially for CPU folding

near gazelle
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Just for shits and giggles

frozen oxide
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you could make a very small image and network boot it

near gazelle
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I wanted to see how many PPD I could get on a clustered bunch of junk cpus lol

frozen oxide
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I'm going to hazard a guess at about... 100,000

near gazelle
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I already get over a million PPD on my gaming rig, so I'm not so much worried about the points, just something to play with on the weekend

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Well, I would if I could get consistant WUs lol

weary epoch
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certainly sounds like an interesting setup

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I'm gonna guess, a lot less than 100,000

near gazelle
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My biggest holdup at the moment is physical space to lay them out and network them lol

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And I'm waiting on a package with 30 barrel connectors to build a buss bar and connect to my PSU lol

frozen oxide
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so a 3950x is 200,000-240,000 PPD

divide by 4 roughly for having 1.6ghz cores and much worse IPC
multiplly by two for having more cores

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I'm registering my bet at 100k ๐Ÿ˜›

near gazelle
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But no AVX, so working at MMX instruction set

frozen oxide
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oh yeah

near gazelle
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Maybe 20k lol

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We'll see if I can get it working in a cluster..

frozen oxide
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might be faster as just 29 individual 4-thread clients idk

near gazelle
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Maybe.

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If I can't get pegasus to do what I want, I might just set up a headless PXE with autostart of the CLI client

frozen oxide
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it does need some amount of local storage tho for the work files

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couple hundred megs

near gazelle
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RAMdisk

weary epoch
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each saltwell core can do 2x128b floating point ops per cycle. in theory that's 716.8 GFLOPS, for 56 cores at 1.6 GHz
except the core is only 2-wide, and in-order. so it'll stall on memory access (unless the sibling thread isn't stalled), and FAH is a good mix of int and fp instructions (so you're very limited by the core being 2-wide and in-order)

frozen oxide
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aaand 1050ti is 2.1 tflops

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and 250k ppd indicated

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so yeah I think you're probably closer with 20-40k because unfortunately PPD is not linear

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doubling your computing power gives you 4x the PPD

near gazelle
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Heh, my FX6300 + GTX 750 gets about 85k

weary epoch
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if even that - I don't think saltwell will get anywhere close to theoretical and probably be even worse than a GPU in that respect, because it can't hide memory latency as well

near gazelle
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My R5 3600 + V64OC gets 1.2-1.4

frozen oxide
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if I had a pcie slot in which to put my 1050ti I'd be running it, but I don't

weary epoch
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GPUs deal with memory latency by keeping tons of threads in flight. big CPU cores can speculate ahead by hundreds of instructions past a cache miss. saltwell atom can't do either

frozen oxide
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that's probably 1.1 million for the vega64 and 80k for the r5?

near gazelle
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Hmmm.. These boards have PCI slots, I wonder what adding a few FX5200s would do (LOL!!)

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I do have a stack of old PCI GPUs from my vintage computer collection. I doubt anything older than FX would do anything though.. I wonder if a Geforce MX440 would be able to do anything.

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I have some Radeon HD cards in PCI as well

weary epoch
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I think you need something from the Fermi generation or after

near gazelle
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I gotcha

weary epoch
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earlier GPUs have real limitations with GPGPU work

frozen oxide
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on nvidia it needs CUDA

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and on AMD it needs OpenCL

weary epoch
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I think they all use opencl now

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technically the tesla generation (G80) can support cuda and opencl, just with a ton of limitations. you'd have to use a very old compute model

frozen oxide
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I just mean if your nvidia GPU doesn't list CUDA cores, it doesn't work with folding

near gazelle
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So pretty much 2009 or newer

frozen oxide
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and if it's older than a 9 series it probably can only do core 21 work

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while 10 series and up can do core 21 or 22 work

trim nexus
weary epoch
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I doubt pre-fermi can get any WUs tbh.

frozen oxide
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which generation is fermi

weary epoch
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gtx 4xx

frozen oxide
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probably a fair bet

weary epoch
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and that's 2010 timeframe I think

frozen oxide
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that's 2011 or thereabouts?

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ah

weary epoch
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so a gpu from 2009 probably won't get anything

near gazelle
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AMD picked up OpenCL in '09, that's why I mentioned that year

frozen oxide
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it wouldnt let you add it if there was no core for it

rich depot
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I believe core_22 can run on older NV card than 900 series...

frozen oxide
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I'm not sure the exact cutoff on core 22

weary epoch
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because they have serious limitations. like, the G80 (8800 GTX) can't even do double precision

near gazelle
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Someone should drop in a GTX 280ti and see what happens lol

frozen oxide
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but the core 22 work is pretty beefy anyway

rich depot
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Me either tbh... But I'm sure older cards than 900 can, seeing as 21 can run on 400 and newer

frozen oxide
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core 22 left beta in december 2019

weary epoch
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gtx 980 ti can do core 22 btw

frozen oxide
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it's reeeeeeally new

weary epoch
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first-gen gcn can also get core 22 work

frozen oxide
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my R9 nano is doing core 22 also

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but it's slow as heck

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7 hour WU's

weary epoch
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as for the gtx 280, it can't do concurrent kernels. so it'll probably be quite slow too

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well eta for a core 22 workload on the 980 ti is like 2-3 hours

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not sure why the r9 nano is looking at 7 hours

frozen oxide
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I'm on client-type advanced

weary epoch
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same

frozen oxide
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even the 2080ti takes 3+ hours on these

weary epoch
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maybe I just got a smaller WU

near gazelle
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I was just chuckling about having a Geforce FX 5700 with a Radeon HD 5700 and a Radeon RX 5700 in the same picture. Someone has to make that happen.

frozen oxide
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the r9 is on track for 500,000 PPD - I think a 980ti will be more like 800,000 ?

granite cloak
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1.5 days WU on a gtx 650 xd

weary epoch
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eh not in reality since I don't get enough WUs to keep it fed

near gazelle
weary epoch
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not sure what it can actually do

near gazelle
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94.4K

frozen oxide
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I guessed 80k? not bad

rare linden
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Is there any way I can pause individual work units? I have one running on the GPU and one on the CPU but I'd like to pause the GPU unit

near gazelle
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Yes, in advanced control

frozen oxide
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@rare linden advanced client

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right click the slot

near gazelle
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Right click on the one slot and click pause

frozen oxide
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jinx

near gazelle
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Lol

rare linden
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Wow, that's really obvious and I feel a bit dumb. Thank you guys ๐Ÿ˜‚

near gazelle
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No worries. You can also pause/restart individual slots to restart their timers if they haven't picked up a WU in a few hours

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Anyway, off to other channels. Y'all have fun. I'll update on the Atom supercomputer when I get around to it lol

weary epoch
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cool, let us know ๐Ÿ™‚

frozen oxide
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I found something by accident

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so firstly that "top" card is thermal throttling, of course... but I had it running in another machine for the past 2 weeks until just now, and it was estimated 1.35 million PPD on that one... running now at 55% power limit dropped it from 1850mhz to 1600-ish mhz and in this setup estimated 1.1 7million PPD.... slightly over half the power usage gives me only what like a 20% reduction in PPD

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so I might just run it at 55% power limit all the time now... not just because I'm forced to by thermals >___>

weary epoch
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yup, power limits can give some pretty huge efficiency improvements. even stock, most things are clocked past their best efficiency points

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because amd/nvidia really care about edging each other out by a few fps

brittle coral
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yea

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im really grateful for my garage being cold right now

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i just went to check and the room is 10f warmer than ambient outside but its only like 48 degrees outside cause it's raining

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especially because that room only has a 580x now but its about to get another and a 980ti

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found a deal on an 850w gold seasonic semi-modular unit for $130 plus tax on amazon

rich depot
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@weary epoch 70% power limits seem to be the best balance for my 900, 10, and 20 series cards

weary epoch
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you'll probably have to test on each, but sounds reasonable

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75% might be a bit past optimal for the 980 ti since it's still well above base (and well above stock boost) at that point. and it's running at 1.1120 v

frozen oxide
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I've got a kill-a-watt on this thing now... it's an i3 8100 with two 250W GPU's, gold rated PSU, and I have the 2-fan zotac at 74% PL with +0 mhz, and the asus at 80% PL with a +50mhz OC

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493-500w indicated at the plug

storm talon
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nice

frozen oxide
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4.3mil PPD indicated... it takes a while to update tho so in an hour I'll drop the power limits again and see how much it hurts it

storm talon
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watching the new saul rn

rich depot
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Wait... it's tuesday?

storm talon
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it aired at 9

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i got it from... my site

rich depot
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I just watch it on netflix

storm talon
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don't have netflix

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i got crave but they don't have amc

hushed bobcat
brittle coral
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it's possible that they're getting lighter WUs

hushed bobcat
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Top: ASUS GTX 660 Ti
Bottom :EVGA GTX 970

brittle coral
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i know some are less intense than others and only use 60-70% utilization

frozen oxide
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@hushed bobcat the total power draw of those two cards is about the same as one of mine

hushed bobcat
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Afterburner says 99% on both GPU's

brittle coral
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dang lol thats good then

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my rx580 is getting 71-76c sitting in a cold room in the garage

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thinking i might open the window once i cram another rx580 and a 980ti in there cause it'll get warm

hushed bobcat
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They are both 150W TDP

frozen oxide
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don't look at task manager for folding utilization tho

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use afterburner or hwinfo or literally anything else

hushed bobcat
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Actually Power % on both cards is 82%

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so they are pulling 123W each

frozen oxide
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yeah... I'm pulling 500 at the wall so probably 430-450 for the cards when efficiency is subtracted? I tested the CPU alone on igpu and it was around 30 watts

hushed bobcat
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which 2 cards are those?

weary epoch
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if you have a low-ish room temperature and an open case, then yeah temps should be pretty good

hushed bobcat
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on mine the Side Panel is back on

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though it does have holes in it

brittle coral
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AMD needs to unify their driver for dif cards. on my RX5700xt i have a full power overclocking/temp monitor with power draw metering but on the rx580 it has none of that and the software is totally different lol

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I want the power draw stats the software for my 5700xt has xD

fierce steppe
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Looks like F@H stats server is fixed and I think I've had constant WUs for the last 2 days ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

brittle coral
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yea

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its al ot better

fierce steppe
brittle coral
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its not 100% but its getting there

fierce steppe
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Feelsgoodman

brittle coral
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they still need to add more capacity, people havent brought the full farm online yet

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give it another month xD

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i have parts coming

lost prawn
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My folding@home web control page has broken. I started folding on both my PC and laptop using the same account. They were working fine, my PC had a job, and my laptop was waiting for one, then when I cane back the web control page was constantly reloading on both, but according to task manager it was still running

brittle coral
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im thinking it might be an issue with the driver revision

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i thought i used the most recent ones but im not sure

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there's an update from yesterday though so im gonna install it

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the software is so different i can't even check to see if they're the same or not

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it's the installer i thought i downloaded for my 5700xt

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yea

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im using afterburner on that rig because i overclocked the gpu from 1365 to 1430

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would just be nice not to have to run separate stuff

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the AMD one has CPU stats and then i could replace intel XTU on my screen with it

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yea thats not what i was having issues with in itself lol

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i know afterburner has it

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im just trying to have less stuff open in total monitoring because im running out of screen real estate

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and also afterburner isn't resizeable but the other 2 are

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i wish but im not code handy

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learning disabilities in pattern recognition and languages

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yea, the driver i used was out of date

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new one has the new UI ๐Ÿ˜„

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at least im p sure

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waiting holding my breath as it loads, it looks like the same loader

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already rebooted it's just finishing load, says 5 minutes but the timer is going up as the bar slides further to done xD

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should be fine timer is going down now

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lol

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i think it was angry because f@H restarted when i had paused it before reboot

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stopped that

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yea its flying now lol

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this new installer is super extra, it even has sound

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and an animated graphic

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yera looks kinda like an atom with electrons rotating but all red

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lol

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good

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if not then IGP standard is a great thing

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thankful that they made that a normal feature on every board

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i had to use it to troubleshot my rx580 rig

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after i rebuilt it it wouldn't post despite being the same bios/config ect

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i literally removed the board with ram and CPU mounted and just reinstalled the GPU in slot, thats it

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only difference was no 950 pro 512

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using an old 840 evo 2.5"

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120gb lol i got it for $70 when they were the hot model as a boot drive for rigs like this

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cool i can see power consumption on both now

timber grove
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yup

storm talon
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well, the first thing you should do with any out of box product is update firmware tbh

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you never know how long it's been sittin on the shelf

brittle coral
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yea

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depends though

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old A+ certification recommends against it for any part that doesn't need it

storm talon
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when i got my 2nd gen ryzen and put it in an updated board and it just went "NO"

brittle coral
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there's risk to break stuff but if it functions and isn't otherwise broken or has a security bug then it's fine

storm talon
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I ended up returning the chip based on amd support recommendations, turns out my b350 bios wasn't up to date

brittle coral
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but yea, in these situatios, 100% update lol

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yea, sometimes you just have to RMA to update or find a test chip

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i had a friend do that once

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no money for a CPU that would work with that bios so they sent it to intel (when they still served a ton of mb direct to us) and they fixed it

solar abyss
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hay it takes 24 hours for a new user to be showing stats right?

storm talon
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up to yea

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stats can get delayed by a good bit depending on server lag

brittle coral
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yea it took a couple days for me with the servers where they are

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it took 12 hours just to get my authentication ID

solar abyss
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for a i5 and a Gtx 1070 whats a good points per day?

storm talon
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1070 probably get 1mil ppd

solar abyss
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ya im folding now on med. why i play on stadia lol

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not a lag or slowdown

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#cloudgaming

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ya they all are about the same, i have GFN too, i was a heavy user of Parsec Glad Ltt did a video on it

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ya will be nice to get a EXE or Web play for Xcloud but i dont see that happening till after new Box comes out

storm talon
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I use anydesk

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nah, it's all vcpus

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yep, esxi vmware

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I've done over 600 wu's in a week

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me too, running the beta client

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most of my work is being done at my dc's using free power

rich depot
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rip my laptop to folding

hushed bobcat
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Why is the PPD so low on some of those clients @storm talon ?

storm talon
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idk that is a mystery

hushed bobcat
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i saw like 400-600 on some

rich depot
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time of death 5:15am

storm talon
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maybe lack of ram?

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idk I rarely check it it's just running, and not really caring about ppd since i missed the cutoff for the contest

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idk, I'm up for any suggestions on how to tune my cluster. it's very fun watching my r810's get pinned to the floor on cpu usage

hushed bobcat
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Honestly I'd like to help but I probably need more info like how exactly the VM's are set up (OS RAM CPU) and the ESXi CPU Monitoring Page

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Might even be a storage limitation @storm talon

rich depot
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Rip my asus rog 2015-2020 died fighting coronavirus. Canโ€™t even post right now after I smelled smoke.

hushed bobcat
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F

rich depot
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F

timber grove
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F

brittle coral
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F soldier

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5 years is more than many get

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you will be missed

storm talon
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folding on a laptop tho

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watch your temps guise

brittle coral
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yea for real

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also lol @ AWSfolds

stark bough
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do mote active cooling

brittle coral
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i cant find any info on who they are really

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is it just amazon flexing on everyone?

stark bough
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pretty much

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what we really need is capacity for work and assign

storm talon
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yea bezos is flexing

hushed bobcat
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Amazon have also set up Work servers

stark bough
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the bandwidth needed for folding is next to nothing compared to assign and recieve

brittle coral
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yea im wondering why AWS hasnt taken that up yet

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ooh nvm they have

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well then im surprised that it's still lagging

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moar fiber

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MOAR

stark bough
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inb4 all their crunching is all done on their LAN

haughty moat
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fiber where i want fiber

storm talon
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meh

hushed bobcat
storm talon
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they don't have servers

hushed bobcat
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i could've sworn i saw an AWS server a few days ago

brittle coral
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yea

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if they actually had them i bet they would not be having bandwidth issues

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that's even more dumb then if bezos is flexing without being able to get work either

brittle coral
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ait i got 3 hours to balls to the wall witcher 3 before going back to folding. Should I just continue with quests at level or should I flex and turn into super quen warrior 2 electric boogaloo and push through DLC to get the runewright quest done 25 levels early xD

storm talon
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I have no idea what any of those words mean

brittle coral
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If you've played witcher 3 you'd know it's fine lol

storm talon
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I have 10,000 hours in Rust if you can translate

brittle coral
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quen is a spell shield it absorbs damage, theres a potion that can cast it automatically if i take more than 1/3 health in a single hit, so i can avoid fast hits and regen through every other, plus casting it myself as able

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theres a point where high level stuff becomes easier instead of harder when running it and its kind of broken and lulz

stark bough
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@brittle coral Plot twist:
Bezos asked for all their WU, and instead of putting it on the WAN, only feeds them his own computers to flex.

brittle coral
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linus tried to talk about doing the same thing in their own video and decided they probably wouldn't let him xD

stark bough
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yeah but unlike LTT, he cant do all the processing in the same building

brittle coral
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ayyyyy but also unlike LTT he has enough networking gear to make the server think it's on the internet when it's actually in their AWS WAN feeding it internally

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at least, that's my extrapolation of your consipracy

stark bough
#

if Amazon wasnt crushing it right now
non zero chance theres an active thread on reddit right now assuming LTT is being given priority for units

brittle coral
#

yea but if you look at the metrics they add up

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PCMR only has 1/4 of their total member base folding rn

#

which is why they havent quite broken 1bppd

stark bough
#

blame the games

brittle coral
#

yea i do lol

stark bough
#

im thinking about getting resident evil 2 remake right now

#

think its on sale?

brittle coral
#

im still sad about my BOINC accounts tho rn

#

there's some kind of issue with them

#

the milkyway@home founder has the same issue too LOL

#

im #6 for team anandtech there all time on milkywy@home and i can't access my account to bump it up if i wanted ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

stark bough
#

i think the majority of them have trouble fine tuning the F@H settings

brittle coral
#

and like in the top 20 still all time

#

yea

#

ive been trying to see whats up with that and help them just for the benefit of everyone but their discord doesn't have a dedicated channel even

stark bough
#

loke how of of them open up advanced clienct and wonder why 'its not connecting'

brittle coral
#

they have 10x the active members in discord as well

stark bough
#

yeah i was wondering why they dont have one either.

brittle coral
#

v frustrating when you're trying to be altruistic

stark bough
#

most of their issues is really simple too.

brittle coral
#

yea

#

i would sit in there all day like i have been in here and relay what ive learned

#

distributed knowledge is just as powerful as DC

stark bough
#

40% of issues is
-Why is my 'web client' constantly refreshing
-Why isnt anything running
-Why is it after i restart my computer nothing is running (its because you started the advanced client and not the FAH client proper'

brittle coral
#

or because they didnt set it to run at startup when they installed it and don't know to run: shell:startup

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and add a shortcut to that foldeer

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ask me how i learned to fix this xD

stark bough
#

15% is 'how do i set up remote monitoring'
There is no cloud monitoring. only in network monitoring. there is no official app. unless you know how to configure a home VPN it wont work

brittle coral
#

i just used VNC

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stuck the PC in my garage

stark bough
#

i think the default install is 'auto start at startup'

brittle coral
#

i have a monitor with 3 inputs out there that i can use to set up 3 computers with VNC

stark bough
#

but most choose 'advanced+manual start' but dont know where the manual start option is

brittle coral
#

was really simple

#

yea lol thats what i did but i did know hwere it was, i just decided to change it after i saw it didnt murder my rig at startup like milkyway@home did

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milkyway@home would start so fast and hit my system instantly and it would slow down, on a Q9650 at 4.7GHz with 16gb of DDR2 1066 xD

stark bough
#

i just pinned it to my start menu.

brittle coral
#

F to that powerful warrior you were RMAed before your own death in battle for a 2600k cause frys was lit then

stark bough
#

i hope someone archived frys website.

#

i miss frys

#

its a shell of its former self.

brittle coral
#

i worked at the palo alto store for 2 years

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its closed now

#

lease expired in dec and they didnt renew ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

stark bough
#

COVID-19 is keeping us from going to its funeral.

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yeah i saw the article.

#

it was the one in the strip mall, right?

brittle coral
#

store 3

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yea

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off park ave

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near el camino and page mill

stark bough
#

i wanted to do a road trip one day and visit all the themed ones.

weary epoch
stark bough
#

like the aztec one.

brittle coral
#

less than 3 minutes drive from the original HP campus and the garage

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the themes made some people uncomfortable but i still loved store 3 growing up

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i was a big gold rush nerd

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at like 9yo

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when we went to sutter's fort and then to the american river to pan i actually found a 1g nugget hidden inside a rock i cracked open

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smart me recognized the rock type

stark bough
#

MY theory: Fry's is running off consignment and burned all their contracts.
now they're forced to sell perfumes and junk cases.
They are literally holding off liquidation (the last 3 years has been slow motion liquidation) cause they were hoping property values would slowly rise to eventually sell off their stores in prime locations for high density housing for millenials
https://ktgy.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/The-Alexan-Webster.jpg

brittle coral
#

what i was told by inside sources is that was the case

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but they were trying to negotiate new vendors but it fell through

#

just kept having issues

stark bough
#

seems like. i was fed that like a lot prior to BF 2019

brittle coral
#

they wanted to go to a model of pay as inventory is sold

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but the vendors wanted cash up front for inventory

stark bough
#

isnt the prior basically consignment?

brittle coral
#

i have a friend who stille worked at the store in palo alto till it closed

#

yea

#

they wanted to move to consignment but couldn't find a supplier

#

at least one who had confidence in them

#

they're condensing

#

sunnyvale is going to ride out the storm

#

as long as possible at least

stark bough
#

the bitwit video made a lot of waves

brittle coral
#

the hope is the company will still exist in some form but they may move to online, buy my god they have to modernize badly to do that

stark bough
#

ive been superchatting him to do it for a while.

brittle coral
#

they'll need outside investors IMO

stark bough
#

microcenter shows the model works

brittle coral
#

yea

stark bough
#

but dammit if it isnt a commodity by now

brittle coral
#

and microcenter closed their bay area location ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

#

central computers is our fall back

#

my friend also works there

stark bough
#

upgrade cycle expanded from 18 months to 4-5 years.

brittle coral
#

they are doing similar stuff to MC but also the company is chinese so different culture for sure

stark bough
#

thats what killed Frys.

brittle coral
#

yeaaaa

#

def

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ive been going that long waiting for real worthwhile upgrades

stark bough
#

you see the old videos, people basically got lost in frys.

#

in a good way

#

it was basically an 8 ring circus

brittle coral
#

i'd go there just to have a sandwich and socialize

#

when i was like 18 ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

#

why i applied

stark bough
#

"billy will be in electronics, dad will be in tvs, jenny will check out the CD,s and mom will go to the theather"

brittle coral
#

^^

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displays to entertain people helped a ton

#

every time i set one up it was $$$ for me

#

because the other associates didn't know how to milk it like i did

stark bough
#

the san Marcos location even had marks on the ground for lines

#

basically queues to watch a movie inside.

brittle coral
#

palo alto did this

#

with rail tracks

#

xD

stark bough
#

nice

brittle coral
#

for "mining carts"

brittle coral
#

yea the theater room at our store was just ah ome theater sales room

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when ti was still a separate room, i think it got turned into a sales floor at some point ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

#

by the time i worked there in 2009

stark bough
#

the palo alto location looks prime for another Costco.

brittle coral
#

idk

#

theres costco v near by in 2 directions

stark bough
#

business center?

brittle coral
#

no

#

close the middlefield safeway

#

move it there

#

xD

brittle coral
#

that store never has half the stuff people want

#

then convince microcenter to put a smaller location in there

#

its about the same size as the nearest central computers including the service center floor

stark bough
#

2017 was not to long, and yet so very long ago

rich depot
#

its that a racing sim in a supermarket?

brittle coral
#

yea i set up the one at the palo alto store with my friend so we could co-sell the whole inventory of GPUs through it

#

i'd make the $$ on the new custom system, we'd split the GPUs 50/50 and he sold monitors

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and the chair table ect

#

that's in a fry's

stark bough
#

yeah frys feels like its going through something similar to toys r us. lack of inventory and traffic.

brittle coral
#

it had a prebuilt rig and a part-picked rig of much higher power custom built via our service center

#

so people could pick and choose

#

same price lul

stark bough
brittle coral
#

yeaa

#

2009 vs 2019 guys =/

stark bough
#

It went from
-The best place to buy electronics
-the crowded place to buy electronics
-the expensive place to buy electronics
-the place with no electronics made in the last 3 years
-the place that sells made for TV perfumes.

brittle coral
#

btw i leveled that +20lvl quest in witcher 2 with that build i was lulzing about earlier. absolutely flattened it o_O

#

at least i did so far, i went into a room full of enemies and AOEd the lot to death in about a minute

delicate pivot
#

Hey all am I in the right channel? I'm having an issue with the folding at home thing.

brittle coral
#

yea

#

were just chatting till someone needs help

silver wing
#

pausing a slot and resuming it seems to reset the TPF timer, really screws up the estimate PPD lol

brittle coral
#

yea it does lead

delicate pivot
#

Oh good. I'm having trouble getting my gpu to start. CPU is fine but gpu seems to be stuck at download?

silver wing
#

messing with my OC and FAH thread count

#

now it thinks my 6 threads will do 220k lol

brittle coral
#

the servers have been very overwhelmed

#

work units may be intermittent till they bring more bandwidth online to issue them

delicate pivot
#

ah okay so if I just leave it it'll resolve itself?

brittle coral
#

but you can potentially get beta work if you're okay with monitoring it some

#

may lower your PPD a bit but its better than sitting idle for days

delicate pivot
#

monitoring it?

brittle coral
#

yes occasionally the work units in beta are unstable

delicate pivot
#

oof

brittle coral
#

the main issue i've noticed is poor optimizatino tho

#

lower PD

#

but way more PPD than zero ๐Ÿ˜„

#

way way more

delicate pivot
#

i'm largely away from the desktop so i may have to leave it idle

brittle coral
#

i get mostly well optimized ones in general

#

honestly it's been fine for me

delicate pivot
#

ah well. thanks for the help though!

brittle coral
#

as long as the rig itself isn't overclocked it should be pretty solid

silver wing
#

I've not had any problems getting WUs for a while now, advanced flag seems fine

brittle coral
#

i can explain how to set it that way or you can set the client-type advanced parameter in your config in slots

#

if you wanna do it yourself without help lol

#

that's what it is, name: client-type flag:advanced

silver wing
#

advanced != beta but yea not going to talk about that one ๐Ÿ˜‰

brittle coral
#

yea not worth explaining

silver wing
#

should be renamed alpha tbh lol

#

hmm so 4930k @ 4.1GHz -nt6 is getting 34k PPD, swear that's slower than it used to be a year ago

brittle coral
#

yea thats lower than my 8350k 4c4t 4ghz

#

at 4.3 its getting 33614 on the current WU but i've seen it as high as 44000

silver wing
#

G Skill TridentX F3-2400C10-4GTX running in XMP profile (unless it's not)

#

Quad channel is active

#

@ 666 MHz 9-9-9-24 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 33-174-4-11-5-5-20 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP-FAW)

stark bough
#
WU00:FS01:Connecting to 18.218.241.186:80
WARNING:WU00:FS01:Failed to get assignment from '18.218.241.186:80': No WUs available for this configuration
ERROR:WU00:FS01:Exception: Could not get an assignment

@delicate pivot
If you look at the logs, when you see something like this, it means they dont have any work for you at the moment.

delicate pivot
#

mmmm I see

#

lemme check real quick

silver wing
#

actually these are the running timings: @ 1200 MHz 10-12-12-31 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 43-313-3-7-16-10-10-26-7 (RC-RFC-CR-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP-FAW-WCL)

#

1200 is 2400 (double data rate)

brittle coral
#

holy balls these myosin WUs give a ton of PPD

fierce steppe
#

Myosin? Which number?

delicate pivot
#

Yup it's that problem. thanks @stark bough !

brittle coral
#

my rx580 is doing one and its getting 557360ppd but my rx5700 was getting 630000ish on the WU it just got before I paused it for a covid protein

#

er 5700xt

stark bough
silver wing
#

they are in assign mode with they have jobs

#

accept when they have none

stark bough
#

ah

brittle coral
#

@fierce steppe 14415

#

GPU

#

but CPU ones are also really fast

stark bough
#

i wonder if each server handles assign and accept individually, or is it all centrally managed.

brittle coral
#

at least there is one that is

#

my 8350k was crunching one an hour when it got 3 in a row lol

silver wing
#

managed by the AS servers

brittle coral
#

cpu one i ahve rn is 13829

#

14409 is a faster one i think but my CPU is dropping from being paused

silver wing
#

trying -nt 8 now, see if the PPD goes up a lot

brittle coral
#

whats that do

silver wing
#

that's the actual parameter for threads in the slots setting

#

mdrun -s frame2.tpr -o frame2.trr -x frame2.xtc -cpi state.cpt -cpt 15 -nt 8

stark bough
#

Temperature control disabled. Requirements: single Nvidia GPU, tmax must be < 110 and twait >= 900

#

109 is fine but 111 is not

#

๐Ÿ˜„

silver wing
#

Core_a7.fah/FahCore_a7.exe -dir 01 -suffix 01 -version 705 -lifeline 27348 -checkpoint 15 -np 8

brittle coral
#

ah got it

#

are you editing it from the .ini?

silver wing
#

nah just gui, this is my gaming pc so can be lazy

stark bough
#

i considered turning down my power plan, but then i realized how cold it would get

#

๐Ÿ˜„

#

was about to take a nap, and its raining outside

brittle coral
#

hahaha

silver wing
#

I power cap my CPU

brittle coral
#

yea its raining here still too

#

i just pause mine

silver wing
brittle coral
#

if its planetside 2 maybe i let it run and let them figure it out on their own

stark bough
#

291 W of heat

brittle coral
#

witcher 3 i pause

silver wing
#

capped to 1000W ๐Ÿคฃ

stark bough
#

This UPS I got can only do 810W anyway

silver wing
#

oooooo

#

65k PPD

brittle coral
#

that sounds right

silver wing
#

need to wait till next complete step to know

brittle coral
#

ppl with 4930k were getting that earlier at tilt

stark bough
#

Whatโ€™s PSU on a dual card setup for say a 2070s? 800W ok?

silver wing
#

yes

brittle coral
#

800w could run 2 probably

stark bough
#

Yeah I figure I got a lot of Wattage overhead if I add in a different card

#

How about 750W?

brittle coral
#

probably

silver wing
#

2070 doesn't use a lot

brittle coral
#

whats the draw on one card

#

if its like my 5700xt im sipping on power at 180w peak rn folding

#

i have room for another on my 750w for sure

silver wing
#

even with 300W per card (which it's not) and 150W for CPU that's 750W

stark bough
#

max with Monitor on in my UPS? 340/810W

brittle coral
#

thats 10w less than gaming

stark bough
#

think thatโ€™s 6 core on my 3700x, and my 1070 running full tilt with a mild OC

silver wing
#

OC 4930k + 2x 290X folding is around 800W

brittle coral
#

oooooh

#

you ahve the answers i seek

#

how much are you getting out of that 290x

#

ppd

#

just out of one

silver wing
#

14543 @ 380K each

stark bough
#

Kinda glad I spent the extra $10 and got a 750 instead of a 650 then

#

Probably wouldnโ€™t have been worth it to spend an extra $40 for the plat

brittle coral
#

thats not awful, power draw per card?

fierce steppe
#

Anyone here ordered one of the F@H LTT shirts?

silver wing
#

PPD is now 43k btw

stark bough
#

I considered it

brittle coral
#

i have the spare PSU for it if i get a splitter for the rig i put it into

silver wing
#

seems low still

brittle coral
#

it is

stark bough
#

@fierce steppe You know, I might get the hoodie and the shirt

silver wing
#

16420

stark bough
#

Been too lazy to measure myself though

brittle coral
#

for how much power it uses it is anyway

#

its about the same as an RX580 at probably double the power

#

at least 50% more

stark bough
#

Anyone know Linus size?

#

Is he a medium?

brittle coral
#

he looks like a medium but if he's really tall prob a large

stark bough
#

Heโ€™s 5โ€™6โ€

brittle coral
#

hah

silver wing
#

well AIDA64 tells me the power of the GPU but I 100% do not believe it lol

brittle coral
#

yea medium

#

maybe small

stark bough
#

medium master race

fierce steppe
#

it has size chart on the website

brittle coral
#

it seems accurate on my systems

silver wing
brittle coral
#

i just updated both drivers to yesterday's release though

stark bough
#

Small, but after getting the Qurantine 15heโ€™ll be a medium

brittle coral
#

the values are read from within the card

#

they'll measure voltage @ amps

#

that data doesn't lie lol

stark bough
#

@fierce steppe yeah but body type matters too

silver wing
#

200W of that is server

brittle coral
#

that sounds right

silver wing
#

rest is PC and monitor

brittle coral
#

i assumed it would be around the same power draw per card as a 5700xt

#

volts math looks okay

#

you're on 50hz 240v input?

fierce steppe
#

are you not?

silver wing
#

both card would only be 300W

#

plus 140W CPU

#

it's too far off

fierce steppe
#

240V 50Hz master race

brittle coral
#

not necessarily

#

you're not using much vram and other things

stark bough
brittle coral
#

TMU

#

ect

#

just SP

#

none of the fixed function parts are really active

#

so they're all power gated

silver wing
#

no the power states on my UPS does not match what AIDA64 is saying

brittle coral
#

ah okay

#

for sure

silver wing
#

so I do not believe AIDA

fierce steppe
#

I hate that the favicon for the LTTstore.com is the same as the forums, makes it so hard to find the store page in my 6000 tabs

brittle coral
#

sry i missed that i drank some of the 190proof ethanol i bought for extractions and cleaning since ISO was out of stock everywhere xD

silver wing
#

lol

#

It's nice being able to sanity check that sort of stuff though

#

PPD still 43K

#

wonder if it's just this project

brittle coral
#

yea i used to leave my system running off a kill-a-watt but i melted the kill-a-watt because it wasnt rated for 20a draw xD

#

and i had a 1050w PSU running off it and another rig

silver wing
brittle coral
#

with a 600 xD

#

plus monitors ect

silver wing
#

I don't use the USB interface on my PSU

#

it's like, way wrong lol

brittle coral
#

i have an AXi 1200w i have to RMA

silver wing
#

cool but yea not accurate

brittle coral
#

it died 6m into its life

silver wing
#

ouch

brittle coral
#

still got 3 years or so on warranty

silver wing
#

mines old

brittle coral
#

i have been very very lazy

silver wing
#

EVGA NEX1500

thick holly
#

Hey guys! Thanks for folding! You are all doing a great job, keep up the good work!

brittle coral
#

ayyy

silver wing
#

I've made 3 planes and 4 cranes just today ๐Ÿ™‚

thick holly
#

๐Ÿคฃ

timber grove
#

can i have a 2080ti to keep up with people

silver wing
#

self high-five

thick holly
#

It was a good one

brittle coral
#

one of my friends is giving me a 980ti to fold on cause he doesn't have room xD

#

the rig in the garage only has a 600w PSU as primary, i have a 750w enermax china branded one i pulled out of an ancient bitcoin miner with 2 8 pins on it plus some cpu 8 pins i can convert to GPU with the right molex ends, and i have an 850w seasonic unit i just ordered otw

#

whatever rig ends up with the most cards is getting the paired PSUs

stark bough
#

@brittle coral Thats why I like the UPS. I was hoping iCUE on my 650i would indicate real time power draw like the Asus, but it only reports on rail mode, temps, fan speed, and efficiency

brittle coral
#

next one is getting the 980 and whatever else i put with it

#

yeaaa

#

i just dont have a UPS

#

no good UPS pushes what i need

#

and i don't have room in my rack for one there either

#

all 12u are used up

silver wing
#

Just get one with failed batteries and leave it in bypass mode

brittle coral
#

i need to get rid of that desk its under, extend my GALANT with another leaf, and put a 16u in

stark bough
#

Iโ€™m going to grab another one of those Costco 1500 VA ones

silver wing
#

still get the power monitoring

brittle coral
#

space is the issue

stark bough
#

True sine wave isnโ€™t needed for modern PSUโ€™s, right?

silver wing
#

you can actually get really tiny ones

brittle coral
#

rn my audio rack takes up 12u

#

i need one that can do 20a/2400w tho

#

xD

#

or a bank of se veral

silver wing
#

but if it ever goes in to inverter mode it'll shut off lol

#

PCs don't mind simulated sine

stark bough
#

Anything with a transformer block iirc

#

Are double conversions sub 70% efficient?

#

Always been curious

silver wing
#

no

brittle coral
#

to bad i cant just build one

silver wing
#

92% to 96%

brittle coral
#

i have a pile of torroidal transformers 6" wide from amps that are bad

#

crown k1/k2

stark bough
#

So about the same as line interactive?

silver wing
#

very close

brittle coral
#

each one about 20lb

stark bough
#

Iโ€™ve been thinking of getting a double conversion for my Hard drives/NAS

#

Figure line interactive is best for gaming anyway

silver wing
#

Eaton 9130 UPS โ€“ Features
Cuts energy usage and costs with up to 95% efficiency in online double conversion mode and 98% in high efficiency mode.

stark bough
#

Those power conditioners that were real popular in 2006, those were also Line interactive, right?

silver wing
#

those don't do anything heh

stark bough
#

Fancy surge protectors made of gold

silver wing
#

pretty much

stark bough
#

Most of the Bose showrooms I used to know have closed down too

#

Golden age of Bose

silver wing
#

any power event where you'd need protection those don't really work

#

so it's like, why bother

stark bough
#

how about data line protector?

#

Was thinking of getting a stand-alone one

silver wing
#

what does work is platting the conductors of the power cable like Cat ethernet

#

that does reduce noise

brittle coral
#

hahaha

#

bose

stark bough
#

Costco version and others I tried seemed to just be 10/100 for sub $140 when on a UPS

brittle coral
#

the part of the industry i work in that name is a running gag sry

#

i rent klipsch and turbosound gear

#

rented* now i guess

stark bough
#

My old man insists theyโ€™re still good

silver wing
#

Bose as like 1 product I like, for one specific task

stark bough
#

Despite being 17 year old or something at that point

brittle coral
#

yea

#

that is about right

#

they have a couple things that are worth the price but the rest is meh

silver wing
#

Bose 301 for surround speakers

brittle coral
#

im not a fan tbh

#

heard them, wasnt impressed lol

#

sensitivity is just to low

#

signal sounds distorted no matter how you set em up

silver wing
#

they are only good for surrounds lol

brittle coral
#

yea basically

stark bough
#

just because he spent a lot of money on it doesnโ€™t mean itโ€™s good. The receiver unit is acting up, and unlike say bookshelf speakers I canโ€™t just wire in the sub to something else to make up for a failed component

brittle coral
#

and even then there's better surrounds for the price

silver wing
#

and I mean that in the they are the best I've used for that task way

stark bough
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Bose systems are tuned to their specific setup, nothing else

brittle coral
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hahaha i mean

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you can

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i did that to a bunch of m-audio subs

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checked the specso n the amp, found a 2ch one comparable, fixed 2 subs in 1 go under my desk

silver wing
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I like the 8 in wide range on them and the reflecting tweeter

brittle coral
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sounds better now than before

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QSC RMX850 amp lol

stark bough
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I got a companion 5 from the base. Theyโ€™re awesome for my computer setup

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But I cannot see them as good for anything else

silver wing
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front in my theater are Martin Logan ๐Ÿ™‚

stark bough
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Canโ€™t complain. About a gift

silver wing
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free is free

brittle coral
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i have enough klipsch pro speakers for a 12ch klipsch system with 6000w of sub@ 105db sensitivity in array, 8x18 4x15

stark bough
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The control puck feels premium AF

brittle coral
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i just dont have anywhere to run them like that right now xD

stark bough
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So Iโ€™m definetly not complaining there

brittle coral
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12ch+bass

stark bough
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free is free
@silver wing
If the item is free, then I am the product

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Oh wait

silver wing
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lol

brittle coral
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i figured i'd LCR my KP-301s (klipsch chorus) and put the 4th as a direct rear and then set up 6 channels of KP-250 (heresy) surrounds and maybe move stuff around, set up 4 atmos and 4 surround ect. but just a dream rn

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i also have a pair of KLF20s just sitting lmao

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maybe use klf20 x2 and 301 in rear

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dream dream dream blah blah blah xD

hushed bobcat
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@silver wing From your remarks about your 4930k earlier
My 4790k @ 4.4 GHz with 6 threads is pulling 36k PPD
WU 16400, Base Credit 437

silver wing
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hmm so the same really, output has change since last year

hushed bobcat
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i took a reading a few days ago and it was 43k PPD

brittle coral
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thats about right

hushed bobcat
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didn't write down the WU or Credit though

brittle coral
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the 2 extra threads doesnt make a big difference

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my 8350k 4c4t at 4.3ghz is about the same

silver wing
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we have 2 actual extra cores

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which is why I was expecting ~60k

brittle coral
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ah yea

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i keep spacing on that

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4790k is a 4c8t tho

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i had one lol

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F soldier

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you died in battle before your time

hushed bobcat
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you're running 8 threads right @silver wing ?

brittle coral
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just out of warranty

silver wing
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8 before, just upped ot 9

jade spade
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Iโ€™m finally gonna run it on my big compuuuterrrr

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Yeeeessss!!

silver wing
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nope drops to 8

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setting to 10

jade spade
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My pfp okay lead?

hushed bobcat
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for a change i have to restart the client

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and it has to be a new WU

brittle coral
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meanwhile ryzen is over here with 8c16t like PPD GO BURRRRRRRRR

silver wing
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@jade spade yea, better than the other one lol

hushed bobcat
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I have a Ryzen R5 3600 in a ESXi VM with 6 threads pulling 75k PPD
WU 14613, Base Credit 892

silver wing
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odd, mine changes fine

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it stops and restarts the WU from last save point

brittle coral
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My 3800 pulls 120kppd easily when i let it run all day

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if i game for 3-4 hours it still gets 80k or so

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im seriously considering selling it though and getting a 4950x when they are released

hushed bobcat
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well when i was messing with my 8700k the log said something about "In order to ensure WU stability reducing thread count to (insert number of threads it was set at before the WU started)

silver wing
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I can't wait for used EPYCs to hit ebay on mass

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mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine

brittle coral
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yea i had trouble getting wUs at start that i attributed to maybe my thread count but then i set it to 12 and it was fine, so i upped it to 15 and here i am

jade spade
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is there a way to set up multiple pc's on the same account?
would I just set the same username and password?

hushed bobcat
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aww i want an EPYC server soo bad, my experience with the Ryzen "Server" platform has been less than Ideal

jade spade
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oh, okay, it just does work

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hehe

hushed bobcat
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@jade spade yes just set up each clients identity to be the same

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dont forget your passphrase

jade spade
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yep, it's doing it

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the thing that has too many stuff to remember

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oh yeah I had to reset an admin password to get F@H on my pc hides

hushed bobcat
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weren't you the guy who's mom thought the F@H client made the PC vulnerable to the NET?

jade spade
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nooowww I need a workload..

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yeah

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she still doesn't like it
hehe

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even after I explained it

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I need a WU waaaa

hushed bobcat
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I've been in similar situations, try explaining to a friends parents that you need to log into their router to forward some ports.

jade spade
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jeez

brittle coral
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ugh this guy on craigslist sold the RX580 i was gonna buy without telling me till after i said i'd buy it and that i was buying new PSU to go with Y_Y

jade spade
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and gooodbyyeee qustoodiioo!!

brittle coral
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@jade spade you can get an authentication key and then you can link your PPD to a single account yea

jade spade
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It is linkkeeddd eesh

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it's done ^

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well, done logging in

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D:
still no WU!

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I will take even the smalles of units!

hushed bobcat
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i cant remember your system specs, but if they are pretty beast you can try setting advanced mode in the client

jade spade
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my sytem specs is 8GB, 8 cores, 3GB GTX 1060

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short version ^

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I set the checking frequency higher

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waet

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nu

hushed bobcat
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hmm

jade spade
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eh?

hushed bobcat
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well i think you want a 1070 to set the advanced client

jade spade
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am confuse

hushed bobcat
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atleast that's what's been recommended here

jade spade
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wish I could put my second GPU in anyways too

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๐Ÿ˜…

hushed bobcat
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@jade spade Setting the Advanced Client Flag in the Expert settings opens your PC up to more WU's, However the WU's are usually more intensive so you want a fairly powerful system to crunch them

jade spade
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ah, well my computer sits here all day wasting power anyways, so it will have time, dunno how to do it either way

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am looking

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can't figure it out

hushed bobcat
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Advanced Client > Configure > Expert > Extra Client Options (Add)

jade spade
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ohhh

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I seee

hushed bobcat
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Name: Client-type
Value: Advanced

jade spade
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yeah nooo...
that's scary
(I know, big baby, but I don't like to mess with stuff that's that complicated)

hushed bobcat
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Reboot client

jade spade
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ohhh

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nvmmmmm, tried adding extra core options ๐Ÿ˜…

brittle coral
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the advanced flag is fine if you have any kind of rig targeted at 2k gaming from within the last 5 years tbh

jade spade
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It's a 4+ year old system, targeted to be a "Gaming PC!!" from ibuypower

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was a prebuilt

hushed bobcat
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You can always change it back later

jade spade
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hmmmm
SURE!

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what do I set the name to?

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ehmm

hushed bobcat
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If your GPU constantly gets WU's that take a day or more then you dont have enough oomph

brittle coral
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yea the worst iv'e seen is 4-5 hours on my 580x

hushed bobcat
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@jade spade look at the pic from a few min ago i posted

jade spade
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oke, jsut set it the same as that?

hushed bobcat
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yep

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client-type

brittle coral
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yea

jade spade
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ehm

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wait

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how do I reopen F@H

brittle coral
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in system tray

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right click the icon

jade spade
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when I close it, it vanishes completely from all of my computer

brittle coral
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advanced control

jade spade
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no...

brittle coral
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its not in system tray?

jade spade
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it is

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but

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how do I reopen F@H if I click quit?

brittle coral
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if you closed the advanced or web control its still running

hushed bobcat
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Start Menu

brittle coral
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unless you closed the actual work process

hushed bobcat
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F

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FAHClient

jade spade
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no.. @brittle coral... you're not listening

hushed bobcat
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click = Folding @ Home

jade spade
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you click "Quit" it closes F@H completely

hushed bobcat
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that should open the client and the web interface

jade spade
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and I can't reopen it, it's like it never existed

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I once clicked quit and had to dowload it all again

brittle coral
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i'm gonna be honest that sounds like an installation problem lol

jade spade
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I have twitchy fingers ๐Ÿ˜“

brittle coral
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i dont even know of a "quit" button

jade spade
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wdym?

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WHAT

brittle coral
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the only one i see is the exit button that doesnt stop the WU

jade spade
brittle coral
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and the x in the top right which does the same thing basically

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ooh down there, yea i dont touch that xD

jade spade
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it is literally the first option

brittle coral
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i hadn't looked past the advanced control

jade spade
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yeah,.. really don't

hushed bobcat
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I use that all the time to restart my client

jade spade
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WHAT

brittle coral
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it should restart when you reboot

jade spade
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oh

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okay

brittle coral
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yea

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if you set it to start on boot

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even if you dont know where you installed it you can run it again that way

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but for the future

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remember what drive it's on and go to the folder it's in

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you can make a shortcut to the core executable

jade spade
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waidaminit

brittle coral
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ooooor, if you set it up to start on boot, you can find tthe shortcut to it in the start folder

jade spade
frozen oxide
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I recommend to set the client-type per slot, not for the entire program

jade spade
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huh?

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got a load!

brittle coral
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that's how i set it up when I did it

jade spade
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but how do I do that?

brittle coral
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only did it on the GPU

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in configure

jade spade
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am not know how

brittle coral
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go to slots

frozen oxide
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configure -> slots -> choose slot -> edit -> extra slot options (expert only)-> add

brittle coral
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^

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thats basically what i'd been making sure he had figured out how to do

silver wing
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10 threads 52k PPD

jade spade
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done

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two WU's!!

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both estimating 24 hours

silver wing
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that'll change in about 3 minutes

jade spade
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yep ๐Ÿ˜„

silver wing
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24 hours is the default "I have no idea so 24 hours"

jade spade
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14 minutes a fold (on my laptop) is pretty fast

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I'm also on day two of a WU

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nearing the end though

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seven hours

silver wing
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oof no QRB for you then

jade spade
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huh?

silver wing
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quick return bonus

jade spade
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no, it's about 3x the minimum points

silver wing
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hmm, would of thought nearly 48 hours wouldn't get any

jade spade
hushed bobcat
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If the job takes more than 24 hours it should reward Base Credit

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dont know if it takes pausing into account

jade spade
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after 48 hours you'd be into day 3???

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I'm at over 24

silver wing
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would of thought yes due to it's name, but no idea