14:03:48:WU02:FS02:Uploading 6.50MiB to 155.247.164.214
#folding-and-boinc
queen aurora
14:03:01:WU03:FS02:Downloading 8.14MiB
just as an example
silver wing
the dl and ul is only at the start and end of each job so it's very minimal impact
queen aurora
loading a few gif's on discord is heavier on the bandwidth 😛
silver wing
It's only a lot for FAH because hundreds of thousands scale 🙂
127k WU per hour
at a minimum 1.5GB/s
or 11.9Gbps
brittle coral
hey i was afk. So you guys have tested splitting the CPU into multiple slots? what effect did that have on your overall output?
silver wing
for me it's lower but I had to, too many cores causes WU to crash
vague flint
I split my 3950X and 1700X into 7 and 3 4-thread slots respectively. I seem to get more WUs overall.
vague flint
And not just WUs overall, but a higher PPD, so more work done overall
brittle coral
QRB?
vague flint
Right exactly
silver wing
quick return bonus
brittle coral
got it
yea thats what i figured would be the downside
if you can put them out enough great
silver wing
bigger faster slots = large QRB
brittle coral
if not, shit
brittle coral
well i havent had much down time
i set my client to beta
the WUs havent crashed yet but they're lower PPD sometimes
silver wing
should only do advanced
brittle coral
because theyre not optimized
silver wing
beta needs to be a FAH forum beta member and give back error results etc
brittle coral
oh fosho it didnt say that in the guide
silver wing
beta jobs taken by non beta members means WUs don't go out to public properly
it's actually weird there is no check for beta WUs
like some kind of allowed validation
brittle coral
yea wtf guys@@
silver wing
I made the same error while back lol
brittle coral
thank you
i had made that error and then passed it to a friend
we both just corrected it i messaged him on steam
he lives local, just got his 1080ti and r9 Fury X running again
silver wing
nice
brittle coral
5930k and a ryxen 2700 or something along those lines
so good PPD on both cpu and gpu
my 8350k is suffering so im going to start bumping up the clocks till it becomes unstable and pull it back when i get time to tinker later, bout to sleep for a bit
silver wing
my 4930k was getting lower PPD than I was expecting
brittle coral
i was surprised at what he quoted me on his
silver wing
but then I paused folding and went to play and game, was do damn coppy
was like wtf???
closed my billion chrome tabs, smooth again lol
need to try CPU folding again, had those tabs open while it was
brittle coral
yea he said he was getting 96k ppd before, he's checking it now
brittle coral
yea my 8350k is getting like
18k
wow nvm
this wu is closer to 40k, 39816 and its 96.6%
13851
These are simulations of NSP9 from SARS-CoV-1 and SARS-CoV-2, which may participate in viral replication by acting as a ssRNA-binding protein. Its funciton is poorly understood in both viruses.
very fast WU it looks like, its moving quickly
makes sense
and its rising a bit lol
my 3800x is getting 120kppd on the same project
silver wing
317 PPD atm lol
brittle coral
i just looked and its the same
silver wing
come on update that PPD
brittle coral
i just got blessed with some good work for sure, but theyre both about to finish
right lol
thats off
silver wing
🙂
brittle coral
i found the stable spot on my 580x as well
silver wing
44.5k now
brittle coral
i pushed it from 1365 at stock voltage to 1431 and after another 30mhz bump it errored so i pulled it back and the WU finished after reloading from the previous save
i was running that system with 1 minute save interval saving to my SSD so it wouldn't slow down
silver wing
4930k from everything I know should be at least 60k
brittle coral
nice, thats respectable but still slow if my 4c4t 4ghz is keeping up
yea sounds right
silver wing
so I might need to reboot and check memory timings etc cos it's still far too low
brittle coral
i wish i could get my CPU higher but im only running 12t
i wasnt able to get WUs with it set higher initially
i should test it and see if i cant bump it up to 14
silver wing
pretty sure it doesn't really matter how many threads you set
my 4x 48 core slots have never been idle this entire week to 2 weeks
brittle coral
yea i was getting an error though that didnt just indicate issues with the server lol
lemme tweak it and see after this WU finishes
silver wing
brittle coral
so i set it to 15t with 5% left and got an extra 35 points for the WU so its def using what i give it
silver wing
few 10 min spots where only 1 of the 2 slots has a WU
silver wing
PPD for me was higher single slot but I was geting WU hard crashes that wouldn't self clear
brittle coral
or we'd all still be shitting the bucket
silver wing
1.8m-2.0m PPD single slot and 1.6m-1.8m PPD 2 slot
vague flint
My 4-thread slots get about 30-45k PPD
brittle coral
that sounds about right
stark bough
Wow. I got no points 2 days ago
brittle coral
4t at 4ghz should net about that
vague flint
And ever since I split my slots, I've been averaging about 2.0-2.5m PPD
brittle coral
yea i had a no points day on one of my rigs when i first set it up
silver wing
so my Ivy-E needs 2 more core and 4 more threads to equal that
vague flint
reported*
Fun fact, the AWS instances they are using: one V100 GPU and 8 vCPUs costs $3/hour
So about $22,000+ per year
silver wing
huh actually cheaper than I was expecting, for a V100 instance
ornate violet
what this is
queen aurora
yeah per GPU ~3 USD depending on location cheaper when you go upfront for a year etc.
stark bough
A program that turns electricity into heat
ornate violet
why they do that
queen aurora
to keep the outside warm
ornate violet
ok
stark bough
Because now is the winter of my discontent
silver wing
I use it to keep inside warm personally
rich depot
here its always warm inside, I'm the sun
silver wing
What......
silver wing
that's, better not mutate and jump back 😱
stark bough
The Wildlife Conservation Society (WCS), which manages the zoo, identified the tiger as Nadia, a 4-year-old Malayan tiger. The zoo said that Nadia, her sister Azul, two Amur tigers and three African lions, had developed a dry cough. Since the animals must be put under general anesthesia to receive the test, the attending veterinarian decided not to test the other animals, according to the USDA.
green monolith
who hilighted me while I was sleeping?!?!?!
ornate violet
who what
green monolith
rages
silver wing
blame me?
green monolith
stark bough
Don’t let cats touch your face
vague flint
@ Sakura 
silver wing
still sitting on 44.5k PPD, lame
stark bough
If the virus jumps from bats to pangolins to humans to tigers and back to humans, cat people soon?
stark bough
You get my Drifuto
silver wing
These are not the memes you are looking for
spark salmon
hay y'all just checking in to say hello. Does anyone know what the response is from the Folding@Home people on our progress/contribution? I realize they've been dealing with technical issues here and there, such as processing incoming data, but we are doing a good job right?
If I'm lucky I'll hit 4mil before tomorrow
spark salmon
Disney Released their new movie Onward on Disney Plus, it's pretty epic. If anyone is bored today I highly recommend it.
silver wing
I R SMRT, LEB ME ALON
smoky rose
With fan boost on auto this ROG laptop prefers thermal throttling the gpu instead of maxing the fan.
green monolith
@silver wing -. --- / .. / .-- .. .-.. .-.. / -. --- -
smoky rose
facepalm
spark salmon
How is the Linus Tech Team folding compared to our friendly competition? I've been going hard.
smoky rose
green monolith
we rank #2
silver wing
So many jokes....
spark salmon
YUUSSsss
smoky rose
We rank #4 total points.
silver wing
resists
spark salmon
WE BEAT DEFAULT?!? YUUUUSSS
green monolith
for the month yes
spark salmon
Well yeah but still
silver wing
In production/spirit
green monolith
does @silver wing need a heatpat?
green monolith
if you feel like scrolling for days
brittle coral
hey so
ive been wondering
whotf is curecoin
xD
is this just like, all the miners banding together to flex?
spark salmon
Faxon, if so that's some big bit energy
green monolith
curecoin = bitcoine folding instead major flex 
silver wing
curecoin was a cash grab crypto based on FAH points
mild kiln
oof
silver wing
popular until the points ratio changed
spark salmon
Wait... pretend I'm 5... what?
vague flint
wdym #2? Besides WUs, change, and total points we're number one
green monolith
sorry @spark salmon you must be at least 13 to be on IRC er Discord
spark salmon
lol, nah I mean I have no idea what that means, They were making money of folding at home?
green monolith
i know this, going with you being 5
silver wing
green monolith
should of said "in lamemans terms"
mild kiln
so how's everyone enjoying folding
spark salmon
I found my name on the list but it's outdated by more than a Mil points, lol
green monolith
makes my room really hot
spark salmon
I had a few UWU's over night but today I've got nothing downloading
green monolith
making my servers 
spark salmon
That's pretty much how it is though, I have my Control Panel set to Full or Half and constant, but I only really get consistent WU at night.
brittle coral
NOTICE ME WORK SERVER SENPAI
thats silly that its only at night, what part of the world are you in
i'd figure it would be easier during the day when people pause to game
spark salmon
"I fold my work unit's at night so I can so I can..."
mild kiln
Wait. FAH now gives UWU's?
green monolith
spark salmon
Unused/Unclaimed Work Units
green monolith
!!
spark salmon
UWU's
brittle coral
xD
spark salmon
Sakura came up with it
green monolith
happy it stuck
spark salmon
I endorse it
green monolith
i started a movment!
mild kiln
nice
silver wing
adds to word filter
silver wing
ends movment
green monolith
uwu!
mild kiln
I wonder if I can do something with a Apple TV 1
silver wing
exposed, damn it
green monolith
yeah
spark salmon
So I'm staying at home full time since my welding shop is shut down for the Quarantine and so is my Daughters School, so I'm watching her all day. My wife is still working. How are other people here affected?
green monolith
throw it in the trash
mild kiln
anything really apart from folding and such
green monolith
@spark salmon dress them up in cosplay while you are bored
mild kiln
I hate how on eBay they sell Noctua's with extreme shipping prices
like give me economy dangit
spark salmon
I do, lol. My wife and I are both weebs
mild kiln
I just want a D14
spark salmon
I started playing Minecraft for the first time ever... so I have that going for me.
brittle coral
i just got a wu for Project 16411
vague flint
brittle coral
v high ppd for a moment
mild kiln
0 GPU WUs
brittle coral
it was reading 1.9mil ppd on my CPU XD
vague flint
mild kiln
14412, 13851
vague flint
1.9m on a CPU is... impossible?
brittle coral
yea
it balanced out
i was very confused
i rebooted and it thought it was gonna complete the whole unit in 7 minutes
client just hadn't synced up yet
vague flint
25 Ghz 
silver wing
@vague flint Impossible?
vague flint
I don't know if this is true, but apparently satellite CPUs can run at 10+ Ghz because there's basically no heat in space
silver wing
You think so? 🙂
vague flint
I mean... Maybe on an Epyc it's possible
vague flint
Because of a lack of airflow?
rich depot
Kinda yeah
green monolith
"this case has no airflow!"
rich depot
Not just airflow but also theres no air, theres a reason we have vacuum flasks
brittle coral
yea
the issue with space is no air = no heat transfer
things overheat very easily unfortunately
green monolith
hm E7's are still a thing? 
silver wing
No that's Xeon Platinum now
rich depot
So you end up having massive infrared radiators to get rid of the heat instead
silver wing
Those are the old 8180 equiv, or 8176
vague flint
I have never in my life seen a CPU that supports both DDR4 and DDR3
silver wing
^
haughty moat
any idea how many ppd this would get ?
rich depot
Really, AM3 chips did DDR2 and 3
vague flint
And 3 TB of memory on only 4 memory channels, oof
silver wing
Intel did DDR and RAMBUS
green monolith
oh god RAMBUS
silver wing
lol
green monolith
had to be installed in pairs
rich depot
Big F for RAMBUS
green monolith
AND you needed to install blanks
green monolith
P4 days before DDR1
silver wing
you know of SDRAM?
vague flint
Yeah
brittle coral
@haughty moat if performance is what i think it will be, prob 60kppd
green monolith
PC100/133
silver wing
EDO RAM?
green monolith
oh yeah? you can lick my Simms!
brittle coral
maybe more maybe less gotta test it out first to be sure
silver wing
30 or 72?
brittle coral
im curious what my x3 720 BE would get if i set it up again
green monolith
but you know
brittle coral
i gutted it out of the case it was in because it was my good one and i was putting my 8350k/rx580 in it
green monolith
640KB of ram should be enough for everybody @silver wing
brittle coral
33 pin SIM?
green monolith
..... showing my age ...... such 
green monolith
you have 486 boards that gave you both types
brittle coral
it was barely relevant when i built my duron/riva TNT2 system with my step-dad in 2001
green monolith
when boards did some cross over
silver wing
we all made use of our BNC token ring A+ knowledge didn't we....
green monolith
hm i miss my 3DFX Voodoo 1 card with my Cirrus Logic Video card
silver wing
and the phases of a laser printer was 100% important
smoky rose
Todays kids...
My first computer didn't have a hard drive.
silver wing
who can name them without google
green monolith
lets see when did I get my A+
brittle coral
i miss playing tribes in stereoscopic 3D on my trinitron at 120hz
green monolith
eak
brittle coral
i dont even have a 120hz monitor now xD im thinking of upgrading tho
brittle coral
like im about to pull down some more money from the market cause i have to for bills and im thinking of forking out for a new monitor since i need another
yea i think i beat the date just barely
green monolith
i can still put up printable stuff
silver wing
got mine as a school subject
my school was a VUE certified testing center
really only because the computer teacher was also a flight school tester so it was a win win
green monolith
i just took the tests after I got out og high school
as the nearest testing center was like down the street
no tech school reqired
silver wing
test was stupid
green monolith
cost a bit
silver wing
yep
brittle coral
bumped my CPU up 200mhz on my intel rig and no crash after 10% of a WU, usually if its gonna it does it within 1-2%
yeet
silver wing
never did N+
did CCNA instead
actually use that
not that I'm in a networking position though
brittle coral
failed out of CCNA 2 or 3 i forget which
brittle coral
subnetting a subnet please shoot me if i try to attempt that again while not on 1000mcg of LSD becaus ethats the only way im going to understand that level of fragmentation
silver wing
lol I love subnetting
brittle coral
i cant store large number sets in my head
so i couldn't wrap my head around it fully
silver wing
the trick is remember patterns because the important numbers are repetitive
brittle coral
seeee
im learning disabled
patterns
me and them only get along so well
and again, the acid helped
but that came after the subnetting
vague flint
That's insane. How do you need that many? Do you work at an ISP? Lol
silver wing
Nope
how many you need actually piles up quickly in a large network
if you do proper segmentation and routing etc
mystic hollow
RIP, 2 very bad days for me
brittle coral
rich depot
I had a question. If all this folding turns out to actually cause a breakthrough in the fight against corona, what prevents a big pharma company taking it and making boatloads of money with it?
brittle coral
hah my link shat out
nothing really, someone's gonna profit from whatever drugs they make to help us out of this at least in the US for sure
but is that a good enough reason to stall out finding these drugs as fast as possible? absolutely not
silver wing
depends what the research is published under etc
silver wing
Folding@home is run by an academic institution (specifically the Pande Group, at Stanford University’s Chemistry Department), which is a nonprofit institution dedicated to science research and education. We will not sell the data or make any money from it. Moreover, we will make the data available for others to use. In particular, the results from Folding@home will be made available on several levels. Most importantly, analysis of the simulations will be submitted to scientific journals for publication, and these journal articles will be posted on the web page after publication.
Following the publications of these scientific articles, we will make the raw data of the folding runs available to other researchers upon request. The data sets from some of our most prominent simulations are already publicly available. We’ve also striven to share our key technologies with other scientists, to assist their research as well.
rich depot
okay
safe prairie
do i loose points when the upload fails and the wu takes longer to return
frozen oxide
yep
rich depot
You only lose some of the QRB not all the points, unless it 100% fails to upload then you get nothing at all
frozen oxide
though with a fast GPU the QRB might be 10x or 20x the base points
rich depot
Yeah, but a delayed upload usually won't cost you the full QRB unless it takes a decent number of hours. My advice, don't care about the points right now, it#s the WUs that are important for the cause
jade spade
😧
rich depot
Yeah, but a delayed upload usually won't cost you the full QRB unless it takes a decent number of hours. My advice, don't care about the points right now, it#s the WUs that are important for the cause
Hear hear
frozen oxide
@rich depot sure, I mean, the cause is important, but the 'gamification' of F@H is why tech enthusiast groups like extremeOC et al and even LTT have been some of the largest contributors for over a decade - and when this current wave of interest fades, they will continue to be.
it's fair to complain a little bit about the scoring system even if it's just a side note - maximizing PPD or maximizing PPD per watt are legit things in the realm of tinkering and overclocking worlds, stuff we're interested in
if you look at the wiki page for folding at home they even mention that overclocking group teams were a large factor in F@H success in the 00's and early 10's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folding@home#Patterns_of_participation third paragraph
queen aurora
ltt folding server video is up 🙂
hushed bobcat
ooh very nice
storm talon
single cpu server bleh lol
hushed bobcat
Was Kinda hoping it would be Epyc
storm talon
2.7ghz according to amazon
hushed bobcat
I like the Hot-Swap Trayless in that Chassis
storm talon
no rails..... Jake!!!!!!!
hushed bobcat
this fairly beast server will only be able to handle 1000-1500 clients
storm talon
what operating system is it though...
hushed bobcat
i saw HTOP
hushed bobcat
hmm
based on the screen on Jakes laptop i'd say its a Custom Linux Distro specifically for F@H
vernal oasis
I don't get many units so i dunno if I can enter top 1000 this time, oh well
place 1094 in event right now, lets see if i can get under 1000
rich depot
ah, more people here are a bit dissapointed with the ltt folding server
I get that repurposing old hardware is a good idea. but man, I was expecting some high end epyc system with a ton of ram and a whole bunch of ssd's for storage
storm talon
I'm not dissapointed at all, my clients are all happily accepting wu's from the server
it could've used some rgb tho
vague flint
haha, very funny fahclient. My GPU can't do that in a day. 😂
rich depot
?
rich depot
oh
vague flint
When you start up from a pause or start a new WU, the estimates are usually all over the place, lol
rich depot
ah yeah
also @storm talon I'm happy that I can get more wu's, this is just not what I had expected from LTT
vernal oasis
Yeah same
storm talon
considering the current circumstances... probably just haste
rich depot
yeah that makes sense
smoky rose
Sooooo, are the editor stations folding when they are not in use?
rich depot
Although I do wonder why they made Linus install the hardware. LIke sending the server to him for a few minutes of video is kinda meh, especially in a haste project like this. it would be nice to have a jake only vid
storm talon
they should just lock anthony and jake in the office and do a big brother type show for the next month
rich depot
oh poor anthony
vernal oasis
woo i got a GPU WU finally
smoky rose
I'd like to see them break out ALL the GPUs and high end CPUs and turn of any other heat sources.
rich depot
I am pretty sure that they need airconditioning in the warehouse if they run every powerhungry gpu and cpu they have on the shelves
storm talon
i'd be more worried about the hydro
rich depot
Hydro? Familiar name but can't remember exactly
mental herald
They’d need a giant rad to cool everything
smoky rose
Connect a usb-c and dump the machine in the pool.
vague flint
So something I can't find any information about: I get that Folding tries to make the research papers free, but what happens if a cure is found for a disease based on the work we all do? Is it possible for someone to get a patent and make the drug impossible to afford?
rich depot
storm talon
you mean another skreli situation?
it's not really a good profit margin though, everyone is gonna get vaccinated once and then no more revenue
hushed bobcat
What about newborns?
rich depot
@storm talon if you are the only supplier of vaccins, you can make billions
Prob even more
storm talon
from tax money not consumers
vague flint
I actually forgot I posted a question on the forum already https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=32689
rich depot
@storm talon so? Like they care
vague flint
So basically, the data is public domain, but if a pharmacy company wants to patent the drug and price gouge it using that public domain data, they can.
Does that sound right? Or is that wrong?
If that's the case then I think I'll just stop folding
storm talon
I just want this crap to go away
rich depot
I want this crap to go away, but if that is true, that would be a very sad thing
smoky rose
I have friends in ICU, my partner is sick...yes, get rid of this damn thing. When people are feeling better we can plan for a revolution.
wraith echo
I have 2 Windows 10 PCs I use for Folding@home. Can I set up the same identity on both?
storm talon
ya, absolutely
wraith echo
I'm having trouble connecting to the 2nd PC from the FAHControl application on the 1st one. It just keeps saying "Connecting"
I set up p/w and IP restrictions on the 2nd machine
smoky rose
Windows + FAH = reboot three times.
hushed bobcat
restart both clients
haughty moat
about to get 20threads folding
storm talon
cya!
dim dew
is this the chat where i can get help with folding at home?
hushed bobcat
yes
smoky rose
Please state your emergency and technician will be with your shortly.
dim dew
I'm having problems connecting to any FAH server. It defaults to my loopback address and i dont have a list of ips or names to draw from. Does anyone have a list of ips or names i could use?
hushed bobcat
are you talking about the IP you see in the advanced client?
dim dew
yes it defaults to my loopback address and because of this i dont think its actually pulling any jobs.
hushed bobcat
thats normal
storm talon
that's normal. do you have any slots set up
hushed bobcat
that IP is just what the FAHControl is using to connect to the FAHClient
storm talon
so the next step is to add gpu/cpu slots, and your local client will start folding
there's no additional config besides that
hushed bobcat
Could you post a screenshot of your FAHControl Window?
smoky rose
This is what it looks like with one slot for GPU and one slot for CPU.
As you can see the view on the left is labelled "Clients". You use that to connect to other machines you yourself have FAH running on.
cloud flower
and once again sitting with no jobs 😛
frozen oxide
@cloud flower if you have a 1070 or higher GPU, set your client-type to advanced on your GPU slot
cloud flower
I wish
storm talon
jo what is floatplane pilot
hushed bobcat
I'm doing fairly well, only have 1 client idle right now
toxic crater
The loop back I have found is because the slot is not up to minimum speck (floating point)
frozen oxide
@storm talon people who subscribe to LMG on floatplane and linked their account to discord
storm talon
ahhh i c ty
cloud flower
I've got a Galax 970, an HD 7950 working on GPU and then a server crunching CPU WU's along side my main CPU too
dim dew
it seems to be working after i add a number of cpus. thanks yall.
cloud flower
Just don't add all your threads
frozen oxide
yeah reserve at least 2 threads to feed your GPU
hushed bobcat
I wouldn't just add a bunch of CPU slots all willy-nilly
frozen oxide
I've got a 4-core i3 feeding dual GPU's as one of my boxen so I've got zero CPU slots on that machine
cloud flower
my friend did that, assigned all this threads and bottlenecked the whole system 😄
fun times.
My rigs may not be the most powerful but it's something 😦
toxic crater
@frozen oxide nice what’s your 24avg points
frozen oxide
with everything running it's about 5mil
hushed bobcat
Im going to guess 3-3.5 million PPD
cloud flower
Nice!
toxic crater
🥵🤑🤤
vernal oasis
i got 1.5 mil ppd
cloud flower
anyone elses' web client not syncing with their advanced panel?
toxic crater
I really have to up my game
frozen oxide
if I run it all, it's like $90/mo in folding electricity - but I also need to work during the day and also now that it's springtime it's becoming a temperature issue - I have rigs in the guest bedroom and my office and I've had to lower the power limit on all of them
toxic crater
@cloud flower sorry don’t use it
cloud flower
I'm lucky in that I have much lower power rates by me, plus it's included so not an issue for me
Otherwise I couldn't afford to run some of my oldest servers 😄
haughty moat
how does one change teams
toxic crater
It’s a config setting
hushed bobcat
Configure > Identity
toxic crater
Ouch
frozen oxide
very ouch
vague flint
Sorry for the ping @rich depot, but was your image earlier a response to what I asked, or was it unrelated?
vernal oasis
Hm how do you add the clients together like that?
toxic crater
I’m on £0.15>
vernal oasis
Mine won't connect
frozen oxide
you have to restart the F@H after changing the allowed IP's
cloud flower
I get agricultural rates, plus as I said, included, so even the landlord who does pay, is paying pretty much nothing for my stuff
haughty moat
11.4 cents here
toxic crater
Pause your work before restarting no?
frozen oxide
oops wrong ping
if you restart the client from the tray it won't matter, but if you feel worried, yeah pause it first
toxic crater
@cloud flower nice
smoky rose
I pay €0.00 at the moment. Would be nice to be able to get my stuff moved here.
toxic crater
I really need to up my game I’m 2orders behind you guys
Anyone know how to get it command line installed on windows?
vernal oasis
now i got it setup, ncie
frozen oxide
keep in mind that GPU support only works if it's running in windows proper, and not when it's running as a service
soo the command line in windows might have the same issue.
vernal oasis
frozen oxide
it doesn't matter though it's client-server, so you can set up the allowed IP's list and connect from other machines on your LAN
vernal oasis
Does the connected clients add to the estimated ppd in the bottom?
frozen oxide
yes
hushed bobcat
yes
vernal oasis
ah ok
frozen oxide
once all them are running WU's
vernal oasis
so 1,63 M ppd for my two pcs
hushed bobcat
Total Estimated PPD is every client added together at that moment
your 2080 Ti should be 3 mil PPD by itself
rose seal
^
rose seal
Yeah, depends on if you get enough WUs. But its capable
Were all seeing more WUs now since Linus, Oracle, and Azure added servers. And more servers are being added.
frozen oxide
use the advanced client-type on your 2080ti slot @rose seal https://discordapp.com/channels/375436620578684930/509115775752339456/696166883501801534
I linked a photo of how to enter it
rose seal
?
hushed bobcat
I would like to note that while many servers have come up, Amazon has joined folding
storm talon
yea bezos got drunk and spun up a ton of workers
frozen oxide
my 2080ti has had uninterrupted work for a while now with client-type beta
hushed bobcat
AWS Folds did 146k WU's yesterday
frozen oxide
the beta WU's are more beefy, they are really hard to run on a GPU worse than a 1070, but there's a lot of them
and on a 20 series card you get the same PPD roughly, just larger WU's
frozen oxide
yeah
so if you liked clicking "finish" to pause after a 1hr WU on a 2080ti, it might be a 4hr WU on beta
frozen oxide
yeah I have had WU's starting as soon as they finish
vernal oasis
i only got like 3.8 mil in the event so far because its just been idling most of the time
except for my laptop which.. does not exactly get much ppd anyway
pseudo abyss
The last few days mine haven't been idle much exept even I pause it
frozen oxide
it depends - some of the beta WU's I got are still 1.5-2 hr but some are longer
but on my 1070, it got typically 3hr WU's on normal, 6+ hr WU's on beta
haughty moat
so the viewer is still broken like always
storm talon
7.4.4 viewer works
haughty moat
welp got 16 threads folding cant seem to give my vm more just fight me is saying about 46k ppd
frozen oxide
a GTX 1050ti gets more PPD folding than a ryzen 9 3950x
a 1070 is 3x the points
and a 2080ti is over 10x
sooo high core count CPU's are something, but they aren't what folding is optimized for
rigid wave
so just set everything up through the video and my cpu isn't being touched and my gpu has a percentage bar going up. Is it actually folding or is there like a test that runs first it says 1 hour 22 mins work unit ETA.
frozen oxide
like $750 for a 3950x to get you 200,000 PPD
dollar wise you can find a 1050ti for like $80, 250,000 PPD
1070 for $180, 800,000 PPD
1080ti for $400, 1.5mil PPD
even watt wise, the 3950x isn't worth it because a 2060 pulls about the same watts for like 4x the PPD
smoky rose
@frozen oxide But what if you want to get in on the drugs simulations? They run on core A7.
frozen oxide
jeff bezos has you covered
amazon EC2 spot instances did 6 billion points yesterday and a lot of those are CPU
like just saying, if you as a home user were going to spend money for folding, best bet is to buy a used GPU and repaste it and put it to work... not a high-thread-count CPU
unless you needed that CPU for video editing, seems excessive
lusty trellis
amazon EC2 spot instances did 6 billion points yesterday and a lot of those are CPU
@frozen oxide well you can set the spot to pay very little
toxic crater
Just checking the number after your cpu is the number of threads it’s using?
frozen oxide
yeah.
frozen oxide
I found even halving it didn't change my PPD on my ryzen... doesn't get much advantage out of hyperthreads
toxic crater
Running x5690 2off
frozen oxide
so 8 or 15 or 16 all comes out to the same outcome for me in PPD
it's because hyperthreads/SMT only benefit if one of the two threads on that core is stalled like on memory access - but folding is compute heavy, so it doesn't stall much... meaning 8 threads pinned and 16 threads pinned both utilize the 8 cores to the maximum
toxic crater
Okay 👌
I’m getting 90k out of the pair so meh nothing on the 1080ti
You mentioned about
If I had the dough would many graphics cards in one rig work?
teal patio
as long as you can cool them.
toxic crater
Well it’s an evga sr-2 water cooled so I could get 4 in at x16 or 8 at x8
But it’s weather it’s worthwhile to do the 8@x8 i have a SR-X I’m spinning up. I only got started on the 1st so just getting to grips with it all
And yes I know I’m an idiot getting a srx and sr2
Not that I got them for folding
hushed bobcat
@toxic crater Keep in mind the PCIE bandwith, F@H needs 8X PXIE 2.0 or 4X PCIE 3.0 to get the most performance out of your GPU
toxic crater
Okay I’ll check the specks I think they both are pcie 2 or 3 so I could load out all 16 slots haha
The cooling 😭😓
Ram is not too important right?
hushed bobcat
The design of this motherboard supports up to Four PCI-E
graphics cards using NVIDIA’s SLI technology with multiple displays.
though F@H doesn't need SLI
hushed bobcat
@smoky rose and I were looking at RAM usage
it seems the bigger the job the more RAM you need
toxic crater
Does fah do better with sli?
hushed bobcat
as far as I know it doesnt work with SLI at all
toxic crater
Right I have 48in the sr2 I know I can get that to 96
hushed bobcat
its less than 500 MB per GFX card
toxic crater
The srx is more at the 196
stark bough
Just noticed this went up. Wtf did LTT really deploy something with more capacity than oracle?
toxic crater
@hushed bobcat Don’t get you that’s 48GB
@stark bough yep
@hushed bobcat or am I missing something
hushed bobcat
you were talking 7 GFX cards right?
thats 3.5 GB
Just to be safe you could say 8GB
dense hatch
Hey guys my fah is stuck at donwloading and waiting on WS assignment? does anybody know why
toxic crater
Lack of applicable assignments? I know the put a load of cpu based WU up 2 days ago~
hushed bobcat
thats normal @dense hatch
just keep an eye on it, if the Next Attempt goes over an hour pause and restart folding
dense hatch
ah ok thanks
hushed bobcat
@toxic crater We seem to be miscommunicating here about the RAM
toxic crater
Sorry my fault
My sr-2 currently has 48GB installed. People have been able to load it out with 96GB
hushed bobcat
ok, but why?
toxic crater
Well it was on the comment about how ram affect the work load. So if I did load out with 8 GFX @48gb ram that’s only 6gb a card ruff
hushed bobcat
I dont know anything about RAM affecting the work
your old CPU's are more likely to limit your work
hushed bobcat
yea but then I said up to 500 MB per card
hushed bobcat
if you want to be extra safe you could go 1GB per card
toxic crater
My stupidity shows once again
I was think that was what I would have available per card in my system DOH
hushed bobcat
according to what i've found it appears you can run 7 cards in the system, but its really designed for 4
I remember how much trouble Linus had with 8 Gamers 1 CPU
toxic crater
I can’t remember
I’ll have to check
But that’s mainly because he had to provision it up
hushed bobcat
I found a block diagram for an SR-3....
toxic crater
@dense hatch maybe try lowering when it starts trying to get a new WU
@hushed bobcat That’s their new on only one cpu
dense hatch
lowering what?
toxic crater
@dense hatch
Next unit percentage
It’s when it starts getting ready for its next WU
Default is 99%. I dropped mine to 90 and it’s doing better less pauses I think
dense hatch
hm ok but where can I find that on the desktop client
toxic crater
@hushed bobcat or it’s the sr-x
toxic crater
Bingo
dense hatch
thanks ^^
brazen mesa
hey guys, Im new to folding @ Home, and I am attempting to join the LTT Folding team. I think I have everything setup, however my GPU is just sitting at "Ready" and I keep getting an error of ERROR:WU02:FS01:Exception: Could not get an assignment Is this something Im doing wrong, or is this server side? thanks in advanced.
brazen mesa
@toxic crater this particular error, it was not. however there are other similar errors with them.
toxic crater
Okay if it’s a 192.160.#.# I think it’s the gpu is not setup or capable
brazen mesa
22:10:20:WU02:FS01:Connecting to 65.254.110.245:8080
22:10:20:WARNING:WU02:FS01:Failed to get assignment from '65.254.110.245:8080': No WUs available for this configuration
22:10:20:WU02:FS01:Connecting to 18.218.241.186:80
22:10:21:WARNING:WU02:FS01:Failed to get assignment from '18.218.241.186:80': No WUs available for this configuration
22:10:21:ERROR:WU02:FS01:Exception: Could not get an assignment
in case this helps.
toxic crater
Else I think it’s just not got available WU in server
Yeah no WU in the servers that are suited for your card
From what I have learned in my short time
hushed bobcat
You're fine
the Servers are overloaded
they just dont have a WU for your card at this time
Keep and eye on the Next Attempt Time, If it goes over an hour pause and restart folding on that slot
brazen mesa
@hushed bobcat @toxic crater thanks for the input, thanks guys!
toxic crater
Thank @hushed bobcat not me I’m as much as a noob as you only started on the 1st
hushed bobcat
👍
brazen mesa
you still did somethin for me @toxic crater xD he confirmed it and made a suggestion, givin thanks where its due 😄
topaz flame
when you have all the cards in the world and they aint got enough WU for you 😦
hushed bobcat
whew thats alot of $$
toxic crater
🥵
toxic crater
Dam
rose seal
GHAT DAYUM
topaz flame
Not the usual work but.....
toxic crater
PPD
rose seal
PPD
@toxic crater All of it
topaz flame
PPD? personal protection device?
rose seal
Points per day
toxic crater
What he said
toxic crater
Nice
topaz flame
but the lack of WUs makes things a bit dicey for stability
toxic crater
Hope to join the 24h mil club
topaz flame
and some times i show up and they are just idle
toxic crater
SOMEDAY
toxic crater
Yuck
topaz flame
and we used a lead battery lift to get it in the rack
topaz flame
see you soon 😉
rose seal
when you have all the cards in the world and they aint got enough WU for you 😦
@topaz flame I wonder what the GUI looks like where ive been working.
They have Theta 😏 and currently building Aurora, the worlds fastest supercomputer
Theta is currently focusing on COVID
topaz flame
These are my 'tensor toys'
rose seal
Mira is decommissioned
toxic crater
Dam so jelly of the pair of you
rose seal
Aurora will consume 16 megawatts
rose seal
hushed bobcat
I have 5 PC's around the house Folding
toxic crater
I’m no where near that level. I’m actually have it my lounge still haha
hushed bobcat
5 CPU's, and 5 GPU's
topaz flame
I did HPC work many moons ago
odd barn
Finally saw the F@H video on LTT
topaz flame
odd barn
Definitely was a great insight
odd barn
topaz flame
so long ago
main mist
You got a DGX?
topaz flame
Si
DGX-2
and -1
beefybois
let me tell you they are really good at detecting when my 3d printer is making spaghetti
topaz flame
just of them in the rack
they be at my data center 🙂
(full disclosure I work for a large data center company)
storm talon
cool
main mist
Ahh okay
topaz flame
I picked and used them
storm talon
I also own 3 data centers
rose seal
is like saying i own Theta xDDDDDDDDDD
storm talon
outright own
main mist
Still awesome though
storm talon
hammer em till they squeal
main mist
Why does the company have them?
rose seal
To rent them out im assuming
topaz flame
ding ding ding sorta
Nvidia offers a program
where you can rent them
and i have certified locations
main mist
Ah okay
topaz flame
that can provide the network backbone
power
space
cooling etc etc
so these are my lab ones
they we use for testing 
rose seal
I believe Argonne has a few DGXs
topaz flame
there are more
but they are not mine to do freely with
so
here we are 🙂
But not a lot of people support RoCE
so we had to do a lot of testing
to make sure that we where good2go
the dgx1 is a long boi
storm talon
lol is it that far for always
topaz flame
yeaahh i had to move it to a different rack
but the server lift can manhandle that one
the dgx-2 was at the absolute TOP threshold of the server lift
rose seal
Ill check the Colocation area next time im there to see if there are any DGXs
topaz flame
so lead battery lift it was
and when they arrived the shipping people said we got a new video card
im like....
i've never seen a video card come on a pallet.
But they were not totally wrong
lol
rose seal
xDDDD
topaz flame
just mostly
granite cloak
big boi video card
topaz flame
and it makes some heeeaattt
i had it smashing hashes for WAP2 for a minute (okay 8 days)
and i stood behind it when the cold isles got too much
smoky rose
That's almost a DX-2. My second PC CPU.
topaz flame
rip your powerbill 😛
jade spade
why is my rank 0?
topaz flame
you have risen above the avg folder to become number 0
ooorr the app has not checked in yet possibly
either or
F@H app is jank at best
reminds me of some earlier AOL punters quality
jade spade
eeesshh!!
I feel like I keep going down in rank!
working on WU #3
I might get a few more pc's working on this
eeeeshhhh
topaz flame
no matter your rank you're still a hero!
jade spade
awww, thanks!
topaz flame
also know that depending on where you are checking rank they are updated on a cadence
that is not real time
jade spade
I want to do a clean install of xubuntu on one of the computers. but I also don't because I'd feel terrible! There's photos and stuff on it that aren't backed up to anywhere else
storm talon
sending it a little too hard there bud?
topaz flame
nah something is up with that WU
I think
im not a FAH expert i just know how to dockerize some stuff
smoky rose
It has happen more than once that projects with an actual max limit of n threads didn't have that flag and ends up on system like yours.
topaz flame
lucky me!
trying to get FAHControl working
so i could kick it out of the slot
but
evidently you need to set a pw
which is did not do
storm talon
go in the container and set up one
storm talon
no
silver wing
@topaz flame You need to split the CPU slots in to multiple and limit the cpus per slot
topaz flame
teach me senpai
silver wing
A lot of WU hard crash like that over 48 threads
topaz flame
and @storm talon i am setting it all via CLI switches
storm talon
yea
topaz flame
which i dug out the flags
silver wing
<slot id='0' type='CPU'>
<client-type v='bigadv'/>
<cpus v='48'/>
</slot>
<slot id='1' type='CPU'>
<client-type v='bigadv'/>
<cpus v='48'/>
</slot>
hang on
smoky rose
You can enter any number from 1 to the number of threads your CPU supports.
If you have GPUs, F@H reserves one CPU per GPU to feed it data across the PCIE bus.
F@H has difficulty with large primes and their multiples number of CPUs.
7 is always large, 5 is sometimes large, and 3 is never large. Try to choose a number that is a multiple of 2 and/or 3.
2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 12, 16, 18, 24, 27, etc. are good numbers of CPUs to choose.
5. 10. 15, 20 etc may work most of the time. Other numbers will bite you```ignore bigavd though, use advanced
haven't got round to changing it back, bigadv doesn't exist anymore
solar abyss
question
storm talon
topaz flame
what is the default pass if no pass is set
solar abyss
i just got the F@H how do i pick the covid project to help with that?
storm talon
no pass if no pass set
topaz flame
@solar abyss it will on its own
smoky rose
@solar abyss Select "any"
topaz flame
no dedicated work type for that
storm talon
command-allow-no-pass lets you connect without a pw
topaz flame
kk ill flag it in next
solar abyss
okay thanks guy @topaz flame @smoky rose
topaz flame
ENTRYPOINT ["FAHClient", "--web-allow=0/0:7396", "--allow=0/0:7396"]
ill just add some to that
and off we go
storm talon
ya you could do it that way, does your dockerfile set up the config xml
storm talon
fair
storm talon
lol
topaz flame
but turning the dgx into k8s nodes would be a lot more work
storm talon
I use plesk to manage my docker
storm talon
o ya? we got paid plesk, just updated to the latest version
silver wing
it's a lot easier to have the config xml setup correctly already in the container
FAH kinda sucks in that regard lol
storm talon
or shared
storm talon
lol I didn't even bother dockerizing
storm talon
i set up a debian vm in esxi, got it folding then cloned it 24 times
topaz flame
you dont actually do anything on the OS
silver wing
only CPU WUs on large systems have those types of problems though
topaz flame
so i 'stuck' to the code
and did it their way
to avoid undo drama and foot prints that are not easily cleanable
just for tidy sake
id love to be the guy that borks an upgrade because i did something with packages lol
storm talon
silver wing
you could just also not CPU fold
topaz flame
but points
silver wing
wont be much
silver wing
4x 8890v4 is only 1.6m-2.0m, single low spec GPU does more
topaz flame
something about and inch or a mile and any real racer
the 'idea' behind my container was to be able to use something like helm
to blow it out to my other GPU clusters
but they dont have the hutzpah that the DGX did
so i stopped doing tensorflow and started using the fruits of my labor ASAP
silver wing
at least you have GPU servers
only ones we have are VDI nodes and are in use
so I have to stick to CPU folding
topaz flame
GPU clusters are all k8s and their GPUs are like left over bitcoin cards
they will do they job
but one of my infosec teams are using it for rainbow table and hash banging
so
best leave it be
silver wing
better than the onbaord matrox G200eH HPE use 😉
topaz flame
mmmmmm true
maybe i should install FAH on my Intel Skull Canyon NUC
and see if I can get that intel iris going 😛
(i kid i kid)
silver wing
don't think that's supported?
topaz flame
nah most def not
they are not useful for much
other than running 4k displays
(iris)
I love the Skull Canyon NUC doe
silver wing
iris pro is at least semi decent
silver wing
not terrible then, still not supported tho
topaz flame
I build strange keyboards so having a linux station there helps with QMK and KiCAD PCB software
weary epoch
is setting client type to advanced documented anywhere? I can't seem to find official docs on what happens
no I don't mean the advanced control client.
I mean specifically setting client-type = advanced for a folding slot. Are the effects of that documented anywhere?
frozen oxide
@weary epoch it is documented
topaz flame
now if i could just get all the WU these cards wanted
weary epoch
could you link? all I see is one vague statement on their page
frozen oxide
@weary epoch https://foldingathome.org/support/faq/installation-guides/configuration-guide/#advanced-methods click on "advanced methods" if the anchor doesn't work