both are nvidia
#folding-and-boinc
digital phoenix
how does one add it manually?
i did that before
with the -1
and it caught it but after i reset the computer it gave me an error
smoky rose
Wait, what? SLI for computing?
rotund flume
digital phoenix
no so the second gpu im am only going to use for folding
rotund flume
the gpu index should be the same with your 2nd gpu number
so 1 maybe?
since you got another card that will occupied slot 0
digital phoenix
yes the 1070 is in slot 0
rotund flume
scroll down to the gpu ones
digital phoenix
so will 2 work?
smoky rose
You can either add it manually or do a full uninstall of FAH, reboot, reinstall FAH.
digital phoenix
yeah doesn't detect it
it might be a lost cause, im now thinking that it maybe amd orented while im running an i7
o well thanks anyway ๐
ill keep it to just my one gpu
rotund flume
the gpu is not even detected in system info
so i dont think a fixed gpu index number will work here
digital phoenix
yeah also one of its fans is off center so making an annoying sound through the case so ill just toss it
digital phoenix
it did before now it doesn't, yeah my friend gave me a busted gpu lol o well
again thank you. ill just remove it and use it as a paper weight or something
back to the 1070 grind haha. o actually i do have one question about cpu folding
smoky rose
Shoot
digital phoenix
is that ok? i just bought a corsair h100i for it. sounds great but dont know if its worth now lol
smoky rose
What cpu do you have?
smoky rose
i7...what?
jade spade
whaaa... I left folding running overnight, then decided to use my computer, it was fine, had to pause so I could reboot computer and then I noticed F@H uninstalled after I updated my java
rotund flume
RIP
jade spade
it completely... gone from my desktop, my system, heck, even my backup.. gone
digital phoenix
intell i7 7700 4.2ghz
smoky rose
It's a 65W cpu, that cooler will work just great.
rotund flume
@digital phoenix hmmm thats a lil bit overkill imo since:
its a non overclockable cpu, so theres no way you can utillize the temperature headroom
unless you upgrade it, which is good
digital phoenix
its an overclock, ive made it run to 4.7ghz
rotund flume
so its a 7700k?
rotund flume
yea you miss a k in there sir ๐
smoky rose
So it's a k then. 91W
rotund flume
then its perfectly fine
digital phoenix
sorry i dont have a desk. im standing where the keyboard is ontop of some speakers
rotund flume
sorry i dont have a desk. im standing where the keyboard is ontop of some speakers
@digital phoenix its okay, normal typo my friend, no need to be worried about
digital phoenix
smoky rose
Folding central?
rotund flume
digital phoenix
next to the screen is in order, xbox 360, ps4, wii, and wiiu
switch ontop of the ps4
ornate violet
@light swan ?
rotund flume
but thanks everyone
@digital phoenix ๐
rich depot
@digital phoenix Thanks for respecting the channel!
digital phoenix
@rich depot np sorry for that
rich depot
No need to be sorry!!!!
A little off-topic here and there is great, keeps it flowing. I am known for it from time to time to say the least!
I need to reboot my folding server cause... well... this happened!
rich depot
Beta tester for you, we get more issues than you public branch folk
rich depot
They aren't actually downloading, just sitting there
digital phoenix
how can you tell?
ornate violet
where is the profile picture department
rich depot
TBH they need beta testers with the full range of hardware and software, BUT, you need to be informed well enough to be able to tell them them what's gone wrong
You don't just run the flag then do nothing, you submit reports and the like
digital phoenix
hey where all home mostly, nows the better time
jade spade
I just saw XP and was like... Someone got it to work on XP???!?!?!
digital phoenix
god why
jade spade
because I can :3
digital phoenix
lol but thanks for the info and trying
rich depot
@ornate violet please stop with the off topic, if you wanna talk about folding then please do, if not, go to general or something
F
digital phoenix
sorry sorry
ornate violet
i sent one message
rich depot
Thats for vista
jade spade
yup! Glad to be a source of.. information? for the community
rich depot
Lol, sure, not like you were just to lazy to install win10 or GNU/Linux or anything honest
rich depot
Talk to the guys over the event thread, gorgon and Den-fi would be a help for you there
jade spade
I only tried them because I have two computers, one running XP and one running Vista
no worries, just taking my time a bit
rich depot
Right I need to go reboot this machine, its 5 god damn 27, I'm getting to old for this shit
smoky rose
There is a forum thread by Gorgon going over setting it up in linux.
rich depot
I always forget about that for some reason...
smoky rose
5 god damn 27?
rich depot
0527 and I haven't been to sleep yet
jade spade
my mom is... not super keen on me trying to run folding at home. She's saying it's leaving an open hole in my connection for any hackers to breach
rich depot
Only if your stupid enough to disable your firewall or download a dodgy client
jade spade
I tried arguing
fierce steppe
Wait, your firewall is meant to be enabled?... brb
smoky rose
Your mother sounds like the average middle aged white man who became an epidemiologist when corona hit.
rich depot
Lmfao @fierce steppe
jade spade
it was more along the lines of "you're leaving an open hole in the firewall..."
rich depot
It's so warm in here!!!
smoky rose
@rich depot It's 6 god damn 29 here. I ended up sending email to every single company offering vps services in Sweden. Should go to sleep.
jade spade
"to the internet, that any person can breach"
smoky rose
@jade spade But you don't.
jade spade
:\
rich depot
At least you're up for a reason
smoky rose
Srsly, you really do not "leave an open hole".
jade spade
she also asked "well how are you connected to it?.."
rich depot
^^
smoky rose
Do you play games online?
jade spade
yes
smoky rose
Do you use a web browser?
jade spade
I do
smoky rose
There you go then, ALL OF THAT is way worse than FAH.
rich depot
Don't tell your mum that
smoky rose
You can tell her a hacker told you.
jade spade
and how do I explain that?
fierce steppe
Your mother should be more concerned with your profile picture
smoky rose
Get her on coms here and I'll tell her.
jolly jacinth
folding got moved up
rich depot
Wth @Spotty#5652 make me look!
jolly jacinth
neat
rich depot
Yeah ikr!
smoky rose
@jade spade So, she says you are leaving an open hole in the firewall. How does she explain that?
jade spade
by saying that I have to connect to the service somehow and by connecting to "get a work unit" I'm opening a hole to the internet
rich depot
insert unlimited power meme
jade spade
which I really don't understand because... you browse... right?
rich depot
we are back baby!
Also Yeah, I have no way to explain this, my degree did not put me in a place to explain to people with no technical knowledge unfortunately. Hopefully Jo can help
smoky rose
FAH connects to the assign server and ask for a work unit. The assign server reply with where it is available.
FAH connects to the work server and downloads the work unit.
FAH starts folding.
No connection stays open.
FAH finish folding.
FAH connects to work server "hey, job done"
Work server replies "great, send it over"
FAH uploads the result.
Connection closed.
Repeat
jade spade
and I can almost garuntee that even if I explain it to her that it is completely and absolutely secure (if it was, idk if it is) she would still say "no! because I said no! I don't like it"
smoky rose
Her argument comes from a place of...I have no idea.
jade spade
yeah... one of those conversations
fierce steppe
You should respect your parents decisions, even when they're wrong
jade spade
I can't
I will follow it, but I won't respect it
well, I'll sorta follow it
buuuutt not really
she technically said she wasn't comfortable with me using the desktop for F@H...
smoky rose
If FAH left all their users wide open to attack I can guarantee you there would be people exploiting it. And since each and every one of us are one in a million...FAH would have to shut down.
jade spade
hmm... should I set up the windows XP computer to fold? (by loading Xubuntu onto it)
smoky rose
Know what, give me your ip address and I can port scan you. I won't do a complete write up but I'll provide you the output.
jade spade
I don't want to do the vista computer because it has gamesss
bejeweled!
uh-
SURE! Why not..
I feel like I'mma boutta be done for
hang on, getting it, brb
rich depot
I'm loving these cold nights, as is my 1080
jade spade
I wish I could run F@H on my tower, it could really do some.. well.. not as much as y'all's computers but it could work away on it
silver wing
@jade spade You're going to need to change that profile picture
rotund flume
oh yup
jade spade
alright
haughty moat
dont have a notebook to run it on
jade spade
done!
fierce steppe
Damn, the 0pt updates stopped us from reaching 30M points for the week ๐ฆ
smoky rose
They will added when the data processed.
EOC is aware of the issues and will manually run and fix things once FAH provides the data.
noble knot
anyone know how to add a gpu slot on ubuntu? i keep on getting an error or no message at all.
noble knot
now it doesnt want to give me the error ๐
smoky rose
What about the log?
noble knot
@smoky rose im dming you the log
idk if i screwed things up super bad, but only the snap install of FAH works for me. the debs from the official site always have a problem
silver wing
What's wrong with the debs?
noble knot
i aparently had to make a "fake" python-gnome thing for control i think to even install
smoky rose
snap only supports cpu. I think. Don't quote me on that.
noble knot
well, at least i can do somethign
silver wing
I know you're not actually supposed to start and stop the FAH services, if you do it says failed to start but it does actually start. Officially you're only supposed to use the FAHClient commands like pause and resume etc
jade spade
I wanna move vista to my computer with the motherboard that doesn't have a graphics card slot so I can use a gpuuu for processing
smoky rose
@noble knot What dist are you using?
silver wing
oh you're using GUI on linux?
noble knot
@smoky rose as in what? distro?
jade spade
of course, these psu's have less than 300W and it's very old and a 73-ish W card
smoky rose
Distribution. Ubuntu. Arch. Debian. Slackware. Fedora.
noble knot
ubuntu 19.10
smoky rose
Note however, that I did not begin working on CUDA support yet.
https://github.com/fcole90/fah-snap/issues/2
What happened when you tried the .deb files?
noble knot
well i tried to install it and running sudo FAHControl
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/FAHControl", line 25, in <module>
from fah import FAHControl, load_fahcontrol_db
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/fah/__init__.py", line 22, in <module>
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/fah/util/__init__.py", line 22, in <module>
ImportError: No module named gtk
does that at least work for you?
noble knot
smoky rose
noble knot
yeah, thats where i mad ethe "fake" install of python-gnome
my traceback is what i get still
silver wing
ah you're going the very bottom part of that?
noble knot
no
silver wing
mmm?
noble knot
im using the instrustions for debian/mint/ubuntu section of the official FAH terminal guide
unless i understood you wrong
silver wing
nope
well honestly I wouldn't bother with FAHControl, just install FAH client and then use the web control
I only ever install the FAHClient and that's it
noble knot
well another problem is that i dont think i could add my gpu with the web control
silver wing
you can do it by editing the config file for fah
noble knot
and i have tried just using web, and it just flickered i guess
silver wing
inpriviate mode fixes that typically
smoky rose
Is Ubuntu 19.10 your daily driver?
smoky rose
Come to the dark side, we have cookies.
Debian
It's pretty much the same thing but less broken.
silver wing
<slot id='0' type='CPU'>
<client-type v='advanced'/>
</slot>
<slot id='1' type='GPU'>
<client-type v='advanced'/>
</slot>
<slot id='2' type='GPU'>
<client-type v='advanced'/>
</slot>```i mean, i was prob gunna switch to manjaro or pop
silver wing
just edit the config file like that, take out slot id 2 if you don't have a 2nd gpu
restart and FAH will use CPU and GPU
noble knot
while the web control still isnt working, the deb seems to be working with my CPU
but it is also printing
05:37:27:WARNING:Attempting to update GPUs.txt from assign-GPU.stanford.edu:80: Failed to connect to assign-GPU.stanford.edu:32756: No route to host
05:37:27:Connecting to assign-GPU2.stanford.edu:32756
05:37:28:WARNING:Attempting to update GPUs.txt from assign-GPU2.stanford.edu:80: Failed to connect to assign-GPU2.stanford.edu:32756: Connection refused
@silver wing is that for a two gpu set up or is that normal for all of them
noble knot
your wget post was for 751 right?
rapid orbit
how do I get rid of air can duster bitterant from my fingers and mouth!!?
silver wing
yea
rapid orbit
help
silver wing
7.5.1 control might also just work for you too
smoky rose
Ugh, just read that the number of covid related deaths in Sweden will be revised. Might be looking at a 100% increase.
World, you are doing it wrong. FU!
I'm going to bed. Ta ta folks. Stay safe. Stay healthy.
rich depot
@rapid orbit wash with warm water and soap. Denatonium is soluble in water
rapid orbit
@rapid orbit wash with warm water and soap. Denatonium is soluble in water
@rich depot I have used warm water and soap, and hand sanitzier
rich depot
Wash under running water for 2-3 mins, don't use hand sanitiser, they contain Denatonium themselves
rich depot
Same, pull the keycaps and wash them. Anyway lets stay on topic here! This is for folding!
noble knot
@silver wing @smoky rose it sees it under system now in the terminal. but it seems like only onw thing is working. and the web control isnt working
teal patio
yeah I am using ubuntu 19.10 for my nas server the only way I got F@H to work and only the cpu was to use the snap install .
kindred raft
I have 2 low end laptops, an old Windows XP computer, and 4 Macbook Airs. Should I use those to fold? My current setup is a Ryzen 5 3600X, 1660 Super, 1050 in 1 tower, an HP Spectre x360 with an i7, and half of an A10-5800k
snow mesa
Hey
When I tried to create Folding@Home team
Its saying that team creation. Error
So what to do
rich depot
@snow mesa don't create a team, just join ltt team ๐
snow mesa
I did
I already joined ltt team
I just want to create my own tem
Team
First its says that team is created
rich depot
you can't. only ltt. no own team
nah joke
I think their servers are just overloaded ๐ give it tie
time
rich depot
they can't even keep up with the statistics of the existing teams
rich depot
all the 0's are just no data for points
rich depot
honestly, it would be awesome if you could compete with the ltt team. they are outperforming any other team on the platform, so if you could compete with ltt, that means so much new folding hardware added ๐
snow mesa
I have teamed up with switchboard.ai also
So I need to wait and see how much points we get
rich depot
okay... but thats not what I'm asking. You said above that you already have a company, I ask about said company and you start to talk about being a child
silver wing
ahhh another 0 point update
hushed bobcat
๐ข
rich depot
@hushed bobcat no, thats not sad. thats awesome
noble hatch
@hushed bobcat no, thats not sad. thats awesome
@rich depot true
rich depot
Confirmed COVID cases now exceed 1.2 million globally, bare in mind this is only confirmed so the number is certainly going to be higher!
brittle coral
hey guys so i see some advice in here from earlier about what to do if it's been days and no GPU work
but no folder where that work is being stored when i go to my FAHclient folder?
rich depot
Reboot
brittle coral
yea i just did that after closing the client
rich depot
If you are willing to babysit the PC then you can run advanced WUs but these are more likely to be unstable and thus cause issues
brittle coral
its an RX580 or i would
might not quite be fast enough?
im setting up VNC viewer/server on the rig and tossing it in the garage so i can babysit it from in here but it doesn't heat my bedroom up haha
rich depot
Advanced units don't take more power.... sigh I hate the wording sometimes
brittle coral
the ones i was looking at earlier people were saying you weanted a faster card like a 2070
rich depot
They are just WUs that haven't passed all testing yet and are more likely to fail and crash
brittle coral
i dont mind running whatever i can get
so i tried to scroll back up and find how to set that up but i can't find it, mind pasting it again?
ill keep fiddling in settings trying to find it
rich depot
I'm really bad at giving instructions, @silver wing can you assist?
brittle coral
hah well i may have found one issue
apparently my system made the "system reserveD" not invisible so when i set the FAH downloads folder to D i filled it entirely
marble quartz
it's fast enough. there's just not many gpu WU available
actually check your log
filter by your gpu slot
these are normal
brittle coral
im aware they are normal
the issue is i have never gotten a GPU work unit on this config
i set it up 3 days ago
ive been getting them non stop without fail on my other, im just trying to see if i can get it to download even one lol
marble quartz
i mean if there isn't anything else unusual it's just not your day that's all
patience
brittle coral
normally i'd agree
except my mental health is severely fucked rn from staying in since ive been in twice as long as the official lockdown in CA now, and my paranoia wont let me believe theres not something wrong i have to fix first xD
the thing is i was right as well, the install needed fixing, let me see if having more than 32kb of space to download work helps
marble quartz
hahah in europe we've been at this like
this is the 4th week i guess?
i know how u feel bro
brittle coral
im on week 10
๐
i have asthma i started quarantining in january
SF bay was the first major outbreak in CA so i stayed in early
almost a month before they started shelter in place, i was only going out for work
so, what was the value i input for the new slot to make it get beta units?
i think i figured it out i just dont have the text you put i after the -
teal patio
1st box client-type second box beta
brittle coral
thanks
i found some more info in the wiki
apparently the advanced flag does the same thing
click link ctrl-f Advanced Methods
teal patio
brittle coral
that did it
i added both flags just to be safe
it got work ๐
i dont mind crashed units
its more work done than 0
now to configure VNC server/client and chuck this space heater in the garage
teal patio
beta overrides advanced.
teal patio
keep it as beta
brittle coral
greatly appreciate it, was pulling my hair out over that and i dont mind beta testing
def
whatever perm is more powerful
hah it did it automatically
didnt let me do both i just didnt look closely, the monitor is 2 meters from where im sitting almost
27" 2k xd
its my "TV" for my bed that sits on what used to be my secondary desk before it just became a monitor stand under which i stuck a 12u rack for audio processing and amps
lean spire
hows everyone doing?
brittle coral
tired. i lead 6 and a half hours of planetside 2 platoon ops today with my outfit xD
lean spire
nice
rare oxide
Hey all, can I ask questions about F@H problems here?
lean spire
yes
rare oxide
Ok, so I have a second PC set up with a GTX760 which somehow struggles to execute WUs. I keep getting this error: ERROR:WU00:FS01:Failed to start core: OpenCL device matching slot 1 not found, try setting 'opencl-index' manually
On my CPU and on my other computer with a 1080, everything is running fine. I already reinstalled the nvidia drivers on the 760 PC. Maybe someone has an idea how I can fix this?
rich depot
what OS are you running?
lean spire
what drive version are you runing?
lean spire
welp that all sounds good so over my head
rare oxide
no monitor is hooked up to that machine, i only access it via remote. can that be an issue?
lean spire
im doing that on 2 remote servers so shouldnt be
rare oxide
ok
lean spire
im running it in docker though so it may be different then yours
brittle coral
what remote app areyou using
i just had to put a monitor on my remote rig using VNC viewer in the garage but that was just issues with the viewer itself. you should be able to fold headless just fine
i literally just did this as well, still sweaty from hauling the rig around
rare oxide
chrome remote desktop ^^
anyway, i just hooked up a monitor. what i found out is that GPUZ is reporting that the graphics card isnt supporting opencl?! i just did some research but didn't fix it yet :/
brittle coral
that doesnt sound right
when you last reinstalled your drivers did you do it over the old ones, and did you do it custom or just express? it's possible though unlikely that you didn't install the openCL libraries properly?
i guess maybe more likely if it says it isnt working
guessing here at where to start
rare oxide
i swapped the graphics card recently and i did a reinstall via GFE. will now do a full and proper reinstall
lean spire
ddu
hushed bobcat
@rare oxide can you post a pic of your system info tab in the F@H client?
rare oxide
im still in the process of reinstalling the drivers, gimme a sec
hushed bobcat
I've had the exact same error but running in a docker container is new territory for me
rare oxide
i am not running docker
hushed bobcat
Ohh that was slayer
rare oxide
yes
hushed bobcat
You on Windows then?
rare oxide
okay, now GPUZ detects opencl. guess that was the issue. maybe i should have just tried more before asking for help ^^ thanks @lean spire @brittle coral @hushed bobcat
yes im running windows
lean spire
Is it getting picked up in f@h now?
rare oxide
well i can't really tell because i am not getting a WU atm. it also showed as ready before, but got the errors when it received a WU
hushed bobcat
Look in the log for that slot
lean spire
hit system info
hushed bobcat
Should be a system section
hushed bobcat
At the bottom it should tell you the Cuda Device and OpenCl device
lean spire
exactly
lean spire
still doesnt show opencl
rare oxide
hmmm
lean spire
its not where its supposed to be, id test a rebirth
rare oxide
what? ^^
lean spire
lmfao autocorrect reboot
hushed bobcat
rare oxide
indeed
i think ill try reinstalling F@H after my CPU WU is finished
reboot didn't fix it
hushed bobcat
@rare oxide First I'd try removing the GPU slot and restarting the client (not the whole computer)
then I'd add the slot back and restart the Client Again
rare oxide
ok
hushed bobcat
If that doesn't work Id do a full uninstall of F@H client (Make sure to find all the folders on your PC and manually delete them)
Then DDU your graphics driver
Install the same driver as I have from the pic above (442.74) Reboot the Whole PC THEN install F@H again
radiant raptor
Hi
why is my rank 0(https://stats.foldingathome.org/donor/AnonymousWithSmile), although I have a score of 25,878?
jade slate
lol
hushed bobcat
probably just an error on the site
rare oxide
i think its because the official stats site is overloaded atm
radiant raptor
Well it's like this for over a week or two, and not only for me...
rare oxide
have a look here: https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=1015646
radiant raptor
I know, I should be at the bottom of the ranking but, ZERO? come on...
have a look here: https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=1015646
@rare oxide thx
rich depot
interesting, eoc is processing for the last 15 minutes, thats hopeful
last imp
rich depot
damn, eoc is still processing
ivory parcel
Reducing thread count from 7 to 6 to avoid domain decomposition by a prime number > 3
Any ideas what is meant by this in my log
rich depot
yeah, they don't like 7 cores. it needs to be a multiple of 2 or 3, although 5 also works usually
ivory parcel
it auto set to 7 because of gpu and having 8 threads. ๐ข
rich depot
it now auto sets to 6 ๐
ivory parcel
sweet, i'll fix that after this WU
fierce steppe
That's actually the most points I've received in a single day since this started
rich depot
yeah probably
fierce steppe
I wonder if team stats will update or just user
rich depot
it looks like they counted some points from earlier also
rare oxide
finally... apparently old radeon and intel hd graphics drivers caused the mess
hushed bobcat
Grats on finding the problem
rare oxide
still, thanks for the help!
silver wing
EOC is still processing
fierce steppe
It's showing Current now
silver wing
nope just finished right then
fierce steppe
45min to process, must have had a lot to push through
fierce steppe
Aww, cheer up
Look at the fancy new badge TVwazhere has on his forum profile
That'll cheer you up
silver wing
Although
Finally our chance to pass
Aggregate Teams
๐คฃ
Badges are of posers ๐
rich depot
however I do wanna see team stats, its great that it doesn't show it. cause we are hammering those folding servers hard ๐
also the fact that I now can scroll on the server stats page is nice, they added a bunch of servers
fierce steppe
Yeah, new ones are Avast1, Avast2, Oracle2, Oracle3, and Folding01.biophysics
Avast1 and Avast2 have more storage than LTTs
I know it's not a competition.......
But Petabyte F@H server when?
rich depot
how useful is that storage though?
fierce steppe
It's not about the storage
It's about sending a message
fierce steppe
The new folding01.biophysics server only shows 18GB of storage ๐ฎ
rich depot
its also down though
fierce steppe
True. There is one that's online that only has 134GB
stark bough
Sending a message to COVID
RTX on
brittle coral
lmfao
rich depot
lol
chilly widget
Hmm, that one WU from two days ago still isn't sent
brittle coral
hey is it unusual for a wu to only use 65-75% of my GPU?
i usually hit 95% utilization but right now im not
brittle coral
hay, does anyone here speak italian? my gaming outfit has a teamspeak server (grandfathered unlimited cap nonprofit license) that houses a group of resident italians, and none of us speak italian. they have like one or 2 people who speak broken english, does anyone here speak halfway decent italian? i'm trying to get them educated about F@H and could use the help. send me a direct message and i'll give you our TS info if you can translate the word of the way of folding
its been 8 years and at this point we don't remember how they got there buy by gods they probably would love to know about something to do to help
i just poked in with a google translated message but i don't want to engage directly beyond sending one of them a poke who might understand english as well
smoky rose
@brittle coral What GPU do you have?
@trail night https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/
trail night
Thank you!
smoky rose
@brittle coral And where (what program) do you use to check utilization?
mild kiln
and hey a GPU is coming up
brittle coral
@smoky rose i am using AMD's own software for my RX5700 XT. interestingly enough it seems to be different entirely for my RX580 so im using MSI afterburner and GPUz there, gonna get GPUz on here and check against that to confirm
it could also be that im running a beta work unit which may be suffering in performance
@smoky rose they're synced, gpuz and AMD's monitor say the same utilization
it was the work unit i got for sure, i got one from another project and now im hitting 96-99% and i tapped my overclock on again and it's still pegging 96-99% just at 2c higher temps
rich depot
smoky rose
Restart, hope for a successful upload.
smoky rose
CPU folding in linux
What is the ram consumption like?
storm talon
~500mb
rich depot
@slow hamlet You are correct
The collection side of that server is currently disconnected
slow hamlet
oh
smoky rose
@storm talon How much ram would you assign a vps with 8 cores? 4GB?
rich depot
List of servers with failed collection services currently. It is possible they are rolling out a software upgrade as all these servers are running older versions of the software
140.163.4.233, 128.174.73.74, 69.94.66.7, 69.94.66.6, 52.224.109.74, 140.163.4.241, 140.163.4.231
@slow hamlet
slow hamlet
noted
rich depot
I should say their assigned collection servers are running older software*
smoky rose
@storm talon What version of Debian are you running?
storm talon
marble quartz
what sucks is they're still assigning WUs without any way of submitting them
for some reason
smoky rose
Do the servers have one single failover CS? The clients do not loop through them all searching for one to upload results to?
mild kiln
weird it sends my sends successfully
rich depot
I believe they have one redundant CS
Cycling through them for every send would be a big tax on the infrastructure and afaik that is how it would have to do it with the wat the software is right now.
Also, you have to remember that as a group of mostly volunteers they work on the premise of, if it works, just leave it. So I'm guessing a good portion of the code for the servers is old. Which is why we have seen like 4 or 5 software updates roll out for the servers in the past month.
@smoky rose ^^
Exactly, they do a really good job considering how many people started folding all of the sudden
abstract wing
hi, is it possible to use several gpus on the same work unit ?
i go 2 Quadros K620 and they are both running a different job
rich depot
Nope
abstract wing
okay, thanks ๐
abstract wing
ok, seems logical to me ๐
rich depot
Glad to be of assistance!
abstract wing
๐
smoky rose
@rich depot Yeah, I wasn't implying they are doing a bad job. Just curious.
rich depot
Oh I know you wasn't, I hope it didnt come across that way.
I just wanted to give you the fullest 'picture' I could
While having a gander at the server I noticed this, Assignment rate of 127,056.01/hr.
The highest yet to date. So it is slowly creeping up.
@rich depot you have been active for a long time. Do you know what the assign rate used to be before all this? Like november?
During folding month, assign rate was 20-30k
Damn
Thats low
Not really, thats still 500 per minute
Think WUs take 1-5 hours to complete generally, so average that out to 2.5, thats 1,250 hours of work per min assigned
Obviously there are a lot of rough guesses and presumptions made to get to that number. But it should be enough to drive my point home
Damn. This folding is big
Yeah it is
You get a nice qrb on that
You are looking at around 6,000 hours of work assigned every min with the current assignment rate
Once again, this is a VERY rough estimate
abstract wing
is it possible to pause a folding job, and resume it he next day, if i switch off my computer ?
abstract wing
really ?
that's awesome !
rich depot
Also if you hit finish it will finish the current WU and not request any further jobs
abstract wing
i got 3 slots on my machine so if i can pause the i should be fine ๐
thanks for the tip !
rich depot
You will hurt your QRB doing that though so be warned, expect much lower PPD from those Units
Damn. You know that youtube number of 550 hours of video being uploaded every minute was always crazy to me. Now it turns out folding is doing around 6k hours of work every minute.
abstract wing
i'm not seeking any performance goals, i just happen to have a server and several gpus lying around ๐
rich depot
And tbh, the current WU ratio is like 70% CPUs so it would in fact be higher than this number most likely now I think about it
abstract wing
also what is QRB ?
rich depot
Quick return bonus
QRB(Quick Return Bonus) Points, QRBs are extra points you earn for submitting work units more quickly, such as if you have faster hardware or let the client fold full time, rather than on idle. QRB credit is awarded after 10 WUs have been submitted. You can get your passkey from the link below.
Just pulled it from the event OP too tired to type it all out
Why in all that is holy have I been awake for 33 hours...
Does that make sense? @abstract wing
abstract wing
it makes sense ๐
rich crane
Is ~80k ppd about normal for a dual Tesla k80 system? Seems a bit low to me ๐ค
rich crane
Seemingly pretty bad at folding though I guess
shut ferry
Brit definitely seems low I have a single 2080ti and my output is 91k
wide raft
The total estimated points per day is the whole LTT team right?
rich depot
@shut ferry you are getting 91K PPD on a 2080ti?
shut ferry
Projected
shut ferry
Yeah I set it all up bout an hour ago
rich depot
Oh...
Yeah you will need to sumbit 10-20 WUs before you get bonus credit. But just wait ๐
shut ferry
Ok lol I was like oh shit is it not plugged in
barren quest
Actually getting WU's can quite drastically cut into PPD
rich depot
Make sure to double check your team number, has a bunch of guys folding for 'Grammar NAZIs of America' LMFAO
shut ferry
Ppd is different between the web panel and the advanced control panel why is that
rich depot
I can;t sit here all day and tell people are your points good or not, please can you head over to the event thread they can help you out with basic stuff like that
@shut ferry The web client uses current value, the advanced client uses a trending average.
This is to help when you have 5-10 or more folding slots, it gives a better representation over time
shut ferry
Right gotcha
rich depot
In other words don't sweat about the Estimated PPD as it is always wrong!
smoky rose
Another data centre reply: "All CPU cores are folding already."
Well, that's good I guess. BUT ARE THEY FOLDING FOR TEAMLTT??!?!?!?!?!
rich depot
Tell them get on the orange bandwagon of goodness!
@rich depot go to sleep
Pfft
I got stuff and things to do
Okay
@smoky rose did you ask?
Honestly if I sleep now I'm just gonna mess my sleeping pattern up more. 8 more hours, that's all I need to last
Lol
Weird timezone, where are you located?
Reminds me of being back in Uni!
I'm a brit my friend
You go to sleep at 2:00?
We are currently in BST, AKA GMT+1 AKA UTC+1
Yeah
shut ferry
Got to stay up for tonightโs speech spectrum
smoky rose
@rich depot Did i ask what?
rich depot
@smoky rose what team they are folding for
Even if I didn't I gotta do the blog and all
smoky rose
Nah, I'll just hack all their bases until they belong to us.
warm vale
hit 10M :D
smoky rose
Looks like EOC registered a batch payout at 9am today.
rich depot
jup
smoky rose
Curecoin: 7.8months
evga: 1.4 months
Default: 3.1 months
Go go go! Keep folding!
Recruit your neighbours.
stark bough
How many days since the LTT folding event started?
rich depot
@smoky rose its funny, it was 1.7 months to evga before the update, then it was 1.3 after the big update and now slowly going up again since 0 points
The beauty of moving averages!
exactly
I believe we can overtake evga on or before 1 may
stark bough
I wonder how much of that is CPU.
Even if half of all their CPUs used 5% of underutilized power, they would steamroll over everything
vague flint
I mean, Apparently you can get a single instance with up to 8 V100s in it
But even just the single GPU, 8 vCPU instance is $3/hour
tight quartz
im having this weird problem that when its set to idle, it still folds anyway even while im streaming or just gaming, like i had to restart my pc to turn it off last night, anyone else having this issue?
vague flint
I personally just leave mine on Full, While Working and then just pause the work in the advanced panel when I will stream/game
vague flint
It's actually really cool they are promoting it
stark bough
Probably a shitload of people printing out masks
And โmostly uselessโ ventilator valves
smoky rose
Ventilator valves are more than the plastic you can print so I don't know about that. But the visor parts are used all over the world.
stark bough
Not that they werenโt incredibly useful in the situation and the pinch
But our local hospitals are taking the face shields and PPE
They are not taking boxes filled with these
smoky rose
Oh, when I say "ventilator" I'm talking about filtering facepiece. Correct term is respirator.
Swedish <> English
stark bough
Now DIY PAPR, I want to get my hands on. But P100 filters are hard to come by
But these ventilator valves vary, and are not a standard design
smoky rose
Prehospital healthcare workers in Sweden use Skyddsmask 90 now. Full CBRN protection, kinda overkill for a virus but they can be sanitised and filters last way longer than FF masks.
stark bough
Just saying itโs kinda a waste of time and filament as makers are dumping valves without knowing the type of equipment itโs for, especially after the โvalve controversyโ earlier
Yeah, N95 class masks are meant for healthcare. Gotta triage these things
Kinda like how not everyone needs a NH-D15 and 2 TB NVMe drives
smoky rose
This is Skyddsmask 90.
https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/imagevault/publishedmedia/gr0nn5248xm4pj5h44vb/skyddsmask-90-900.jpg
N95, N100, FFP2, FFP3...you aint got nothing on this one. ๐
stark bough
smoky rose
What's the specification of that one?
smoky rose
A slight case of overbombing.
smoky rose
I have a friend who is an EMS. Media has been doing a bad job of informing that they will be arriving in "military gas masks". Some people freak out a bit. ๐
stark bough
I live in San Diego. We have a major Navy base and shipyard here
The USNS Mercy is stationed here as well. Apparently some person reposted this and freaked out
smoky rose
USNS Mercy, the "hospital ship"?
stark bough
Yes. That exact ship.
Comfort is East coast
Anyway, someone posted that Train of tanks being moved north. Towards a Marine base where they have a major Armor repair facility. I mean how else do you move 40+ 80 Ton tanks 30 miles from an Amphibious assault ship to where the โcargoโ can be repaired
rich depot
did anyone know why i cannot connect to the WorkServer 128.252.203.x and anotherone ?
it make everytime half of my WorkingUnits on stanby ...
dat was a mess
smoky rose
FAH servers are...well, not at 100%.
stark bough
I wonder if AWS is taking a lot of our units
rich depot
every time the same 2 server... T_T am never at 100% on working
stark bough
rich depot
yeah i see it already and i can never access to :
stark bough
One assign server is http://orkney.seas.wustl.edu/
Apparently this is based in St Louis?
Where is the physical server located
maybe their ISP blocked them?
rich depot
mmmm then am thinking about trying with some VPN ... just in case
rich depot
@abstract wing depends on what your CPU is folding
sometinme you have something who better work on CPU than GPU
abstract wing
i guess that if the credit amount is lower, then it is "easier " ?
smoky rose
Crushing how? Time per wu? Points?
stark bough
CPU and GPUs get different types of WUs
rich depot
@abstract wing not everytime
stark bough
look at the โbaseโ value
abstract wing
ooooh
stark bough
A CPU chewing through its units faster than a GPU is not equivalent.
abstract wing
cpu WU base credits is 336 but Gpu WU base redits are around 15K
rich depot
then am Gonna look with VPU for the server i cannot reach and let you know ๐
stark bough
Do a trace route to the assign servers, kekek
rich depot
but then can you tell me if You can acces to them ?!
kindred raft
I switched my FreeNAS machine's CPU and motherboard (4 threads before, 12 threads now) out and set my Ubuntu VM from 2 threads to 8 threads, but FAH is still only using a max of 2 threads
smoky rose
Settings?
kindred raft
I'm assuming you mean this:
I changed the CPU amount between several numbers and nothing changed. I also tried restarts
smoky rose
And the status tab
kindred raft
smoky rose
Looks like 8 threads
rich depot
Dang can't get any assignments
smoky rose
VM related?
kindred raft
Maybe
smoky rose
Is the system info from within the vm?
kindred raft
Yes
And FreeNAS shows the exact same usage
Welp I restarted after changing a new settings and the WU is gone
smoky rose
@kindred raft Have a new one yet?
smoky rose
๐
lean spire
I'm making like 1.5M ppd how are y'all doing?
vapid jungle
with the cient - beta finaley get wu's for all my 3 rigs
rich depot
use this @vapid jungle https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=969696
i link my id but you can search yours
smoky rose
This is very common.
You can reset that timer by pausing and starting your slots.
Do not abuse it though as it adds to the friendly fire ddos the servers are suffering.
I use it when >30 minutes have passed since my last request.
20:40:26:WARNING:WU01:FS01:Server did not like results, dumping
My first dumped WU. ๐ฆ
wide raft
I have a gtx 1660 Ti and im getting 50k ish. is that good?
smoky rose
@keen eagle Updating donor stats is at the bottom of FAHs list of priorities at the moment. There are periods where the stats are not updated and then suddenly you are credited for a couple of days work.
@wide raft Estimated credit for one WU or PPD?
Check the hourly production of teamLTT
wide raft
@smoky rose PPD
smoky rose
My 1060s PPD is 311661
How many WU have you done?
How many GPUs in your system? What CPU? How much ram? What os?
What's the load on your 1060? What's the temp? Is it thermal throttling?
vernal oasis
all busy, good
frozen peak
I've had a WU waiting on 'Send results' for 2 days now... I don't think it's going to send
vernal oasis
I dunno how to install fah on my laptop though, it doesn't use deb or rpm
lean spire
think ive finally got everything working flawlessly
vernal oasis
time to figure that out..
lean spire
tak what os?
lean spire
why not set up docker and run it that way?
slow hamlet
oof
lean spire
as someone running arch I have to agree that debian and ubuntu are the way to go for F@H. Arch was a nightmare to get working!
storm talon
arch was always a pain to do anything in
I've run/sysadmin'd damn near every linux/unix in existance
yea it's a mean, unforgiving bitch
I really did enjoy working with Suse though, their technical support is superb
ctrl+alt+f2 and cli it
probably just ur gdm borking
blacklist whichever module from loading reboot
oh rip
that's why I love linux though
it's never broken, you just need to figure out where you screwed up lol
apt-get groupinstall devlopment-tools lol
what's your favorite editor?
lean spire
arch really isn;t that bad tbh F@H is the first thing I haven't been able to install easily though a gui package manager. (im trying to see hopw well i can maintine this install cting like a complete newbie)
storm talon
quick and diry?
dirty?
install fahclient by itself. set up the config.xml with everything you need, reboot it, and add it as a remote on your main box
no need to even have a gui
and tbh there's no "bad" linux distros, it's just some are made for specific tasks, some are not as mainstream and not really made for general use, but every one of em was designed to do something
ur not gonna run QNX as a daily driver, but if you want a full rtos desktop that runs on a 1.44mb floppy disk on just about anything and run forever, lol
plain linden
i used to fold ages ago, early 2000's i believe. its interesting to see just how fast it goes now on modern hardware. took a few years to get 1650 work units done back then. and now, i have in 22 days done about 145. but the points i think are the biggest thing of interest, those years and 1650 WU were only 175k points. my current system does about 1.5 million points per day.
plain linden
i recall GPU folding was only starting to be a thing when i stopped
stark bough
There are some videos showing top end CPUs absolutely crushing units that would have taken most of a day to handle
Canโt recall if itโs this one
plain linden
well my 3800x/1080ti seem to be chewing through work at a good pace
wet thistle
About to hit 3 million points. If I only could had a dollar for every point I've made.
silver wing
Wow I'd love that
solid thunder
wet thistle
Why bionic. Usually that's something in the place of real thing
Like arm , leg
Gotcha. That's awesome
It's cool to know that there is that stuff being done
storm talon
yea, cancercomputer.ca is folding for boinc rosetta rn
i got a MOU from them tonight that they'd be donating up to 25% of their spare resources to it
stark bough
How many PPD can I get folding on one of these?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MvbkehQqOY
teal patio
hrm my hd6950 caught a 2.5 day work order. its suppose to be done in 1 day. /shrug at least it has 7 days til it expires.
rich depot
come on people, what is this? why has there been point updates? We gotta fold more, overload the server!
frozen oxide
adding the FURY of my r9 Nano to my fleet
rich depot
good ๐
frozen oxide
can't believe this was sitting unused, but I didn't really have a system to install it in, had to shuffle some GPU's around
frozen oxide
I'm still short a place to install a GPU, gotta buy riser cables
I mean... per-watt it's not as good as the GTX 1070, especially considering it needed the extra computer to run it
sooo it's kinda low quality points but points are points
rich depot
points are points ๐
timber grove
at least its better than a r9 270x 4g
warped marten
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/proteins.png topical xkcd
timber grove
that good
fierce steppe
The last 2 days updates lol
rich depot
lol
atomic glacier
oof, out of work units again
rich depot
where?
rich depot
interesting, it seems like another 900m update at eoc
rich depot
I don't agree
they are doing an amazing job. it should be the bridge that is moving up
jade slate
oof
green monolith
smoky rose
We have discussed what you are asking for and we are sorry to say that our VPS's are not suitable for the type of work required. We appreciate the initiative and we hope it will inspire everyone working here to participate.```Weak ass servers.
rich depot
lol very weak
smoky rose
To their defense I kind of expected this as they focus on people who want a VPS to run wordpress and webshops on.
Full tilt over all CPU cores is something different.
smoky rose
Yes
Everyone who offer dedicated and virtual servers.
Two replies so far.
"We are already running..."
And then the one above.
trail night
Finally! 10M !
brittle coral
nice dude
how long ahve you been folding?
i started on the 30th and im at 3.3 mil but i havent been running it non stop plus the server issues lol
i am getting another RX580 to add to my rig with one on tuesday though and then i'll have close to 2mil a day ideally
smoky rose
Stats are keeping up at the moment and we are gaining on the three teams above us.
solid anchor
@green monolith hmm, I recognize you ๐
silver wing
@smoky rose You asking them if they are folding or if you can fold on one of their rented VPS instances?
abstract wing
this Xeon is staying cool ๐
smoky rose
@silver wing Both. First I give a brief description of Folding@Home in general and a summary of the work we do regarding SARS-CoV-1/2 and Covid-19. Then I ask if they are folding or have considered folding and offer to deal with the work involved with folding if they provide the servers.
smoky rose
Another reply. They can provide servers for folding but they are not willing to donate.
brittle coral
that's the name you should post up then for anyone who wants to buy time
probably cheaper for many than buying a rig that they may stop running after this is over
obv we already all have one but not everyone wants to run it all the time hence the up and down of the typical numbers vs everyone running all at once like they are now
typical avg network was 30k users before this according to linus' video which is probably about right
smoky rose
I would not recommend that place for people who want to pay for vps cpu folding. I have dealt with them before. ๐
smoky rose
But I guess we are a few people in here who can help those who want to cpu fold on vps.
Purchase the service, provide us credentials and we'll set it up.
brittle coral
you'd have to contact a mining farm basically and tell them you'll pay a custom contract if they'll set aside x resources instead of mining coins but idk if they'd go for it since they make their $$ having max hash/hr
smoky rose
They don't enough CPU/RAM to fold.
brittle coral
how much ram do most of these take, it doesnt seem like im using any more than idle
smoky rose
What os are you in?
brittle coral
also, has anyone tested performance folding in an ubuntu VM inside windows vs folding windows natively?
im on 10
enterprise
so its stripped down pretty barebones
smoky rose
Just check your task manager and you'll see the ram usage.
brittle coral
yea i hadn't looked closely
smoky rose
How many GPUs do you have?
brittle coral
1 per rig
till tues then i get a 2nd rx580 for my dedicated folding rig
wont feel so bad pausing to game for a few hours each day on my 5700xt
hah, F@H is using 22mb of system ram
running a cpu and gpu wu
wait nvm the cpu wu stopped
finished and not working yet let me check my other
smoky rose
Nvidia GPUs require 1 CPU thread per GPU
If you in a single GPU machine consume 500mb ram multiply that by how many GPUs the mining rig has. Ie Asrock Bitcoin motherboard support 13 GPUs.
brittle coral
i have all AMD gpus
also my rig that is getting work is using 19.7mb of system memory
smoky rose
Lower demand on CPU then.
brittle coral
yea
smoky rose
Is that for the FAH client or the FAH core?
brittle coral
ooooh hrm i see that now
core is around 420mb
so yea like you said about 500 after the fahcore_a7 thread as well as the _22 thread
smoky rose
My GPU is idle at the moment. I have a 1060 6GB. I end up at ~600mb ram.
brittle coral
im using about 900mb on my main rig
smoky rose
We ran some numbers here last week and I think we agreed on "FAH require RAM equivalent of 10-15% of your total video memory".
brittle coral
3800x 16gb ram 5700xt, vs 8350k 16gb ram rx580
so 8gb vs 4gb card
has anyone here tested how a 290x is recently?
i have one sitting as well as a 7950 but i saw some old benchmarks from when the 290x was new that said it was worse than a 7970
and i'd probably need to buy a better PSU for my miner xD it has a 600w, im already looking at it closely but 2 580s doesnt use a ton of power
silver wing
on a stripped down linux container for FAH on a lot of cores system it's using 20GB ram fyi
about 200MB per core
oo up to 28GB now
smoky rose
a7 or 21/22?
silver wing
a7 only
no gpu at all, just software emulation VM
not that the vmware container loads GPU drivers anyway for this, need to tick GPU support when you deploy it
Graphical representation of CPU folding
https://youtu.be/NHbXD6q99e0?t=55
vague flint
hot today ๐ณ
silver wing
oooo she warm
vague flint
Oddly my overclock has gotten more and more unstable
It was doing 4,250 perfectly fine at 1.2875V, but I had to lower it to 4,200 after some BSODs. Then after a little while, kept getting BSODs, so I dropped it to 4,100
But I wonder if I wasn't leaving enough threads open. It seemed to mostly be a driver issue with Voicemeeter, which requires some CPU
silver wing
not so odd if it's hotter than before tho
vague flint
Yeah, heat isn't an issue. Was just random BSODs
I'm leaving one 4-thread slot paused to leave more room for the rest of the OS
silver wing
well the higher heat would cause that, if it's like more than 5C higher
vague flint
I mean, the BSODs were under 80C
silver wing
oh
vague flint
I kinda brought up BSODs separately from heat
I'm actually slightly concerned. It's literally 10C hotter than before
silver wing
10C hotter in the room?
vague flint
My ambient temp is 72F instead of about 65F
silver wing
so nope
vague flint
So that's what, about 4C hotter
The fans should be working fine
I swapped the stock NZXT fans to my older SP120s, and it went down a few C after the change
vague flint
Well right. It used to be around 18C, but then it got warmer outside and I'd rather not turn on the A/C if I don't need to
silver wing
maybe needs a remount from all the constant heat folding maybe, started a curing process or something
smoky rose
Have you checked the paste?
vague flint
Perhaps. I mean, I did re-do the thermal paste about a week or two ago, but I thought that letting it run hot for a few hours would help cure the thermal paste and make it cool better, which is what I did
And I made sure to cover the whole IHS without spillover since it's a 3950X
fierce steppe
I think the overclock just isnt stable
vague flint
Odd, let me check the fans
Yeah, no idea
fans are working
Previously when it was cooler this was only hitting 76-79C
I do have it in front of an open window, and it was 35-50F for a while but now it's 60-70F. Maybe that's it?
silver wing
lol IE9 is so broken now you can't even dl IE11 from microsoft's own site
Zen is something like 25Mhz per 10C, don't remember GN covered it using LN2 going from standard temps and then dropped 10C each time down to neg lots
either way it's actually very temperature sensitive
updated video!
narrow mountain
My GPU found a WU this morning right off the bat
vague flint
Mine seems to have been getting WUs pretty steadily now
vague flint
Wait, there was a period of time back in October when LTT was the largest? This isn't the first time?
silver wing
Nope, probably one of our folding months
when you're going up in team rank then generally you are producing the most or near to ๐
vague flint
the music once everyone got on because of covid ๐
silver wing
They pressed the NOS button
silver wing
You know, deep down I hope AWS was trying to be all smug and thinking they could easy top the daily/weekly production and by a lot
beaten by NERRRRDDSSS
smoky rose
Marketing, Charity. The line is thin sometimes.
queen aurora
@silver wing yeah I think it's some lone department head who convinced the PR department to spin up some servers ๐
BTW whats keeping the linus1 server from serving MM21/22 WUs ?
silver wing
FAH not assigning those projects to it
queen aurora
ah ok thought it would be some space/config issue like "my server shall only dish out A7"
silver wing
it is that but it's by choice from FAH, they setup the server itself too
queen aurora
ahh ok so FAH has a root server at LMG ?
silver wing
there is more demand for CPU WUs anyway and I think the GPU WUs result in more storage being used and I'm not sure how easy it is for them to free up space or move completed work off
assign1.foldingathome.org and assign2.foldingathome.org are the master servers
those assign projects out to WS servers
queen aurora
ahh thats the flow. now it makes sense ๐
narrow mountain
folding doesn't use a ton of internet bandwidth on our end does it?
I would assume not
queen aurora
@narrow mountain depending on the WU a few MB for download and then if finished a few MB for upload
narrow mountain
wife is still working from home (I'm on furlough for 2 weeks) and she's doign lots of zoom meetings, so just wanted to make sure