#folding-and-boinc | Linus Tech Tips | Page 56

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 5:19 PM

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she's* urgh

storm talon Apr 2, 2020, 5:19 PM

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i'll be here lol

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sleepy tho jeez

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 5:22 PM

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why did you sleep? getting close to 50 years old?

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sorry, sitting at home all day is getting me bored

storm talon Apr 2, 2020, 5:25 PM

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/r/deepintoyoutube

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 5:26 PM

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nah I prefer annoying people 😂

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Between shower and going to the stores.

storm talon Apr 2, 2020, 5:28 PM

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shower.... i have one of those

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 5:28 PM

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With a bit of luck I can end up with a crapload of servers to run FAH on.

storm talon Apr 2, 2020, 5:28 PM

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well, stick a horseshoe up your butt and hope for the best!

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Any easy way to deploy on multiple machines?

storm talon Apr 2, 2020, 5:29 PM

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If you're using vmware esxi yes

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create a vm and clone the shit out of it

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 5:29 PM

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KVM, VMware or OpenVZ at one place.

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I think they support cloning.

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Yepp, they do.

supple laurel Apr 2, 2020, 5:30 PM

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just make sure it's for Team LTT!

storm talon Apr 2, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Yea just make one debian vm, get it folding, then clone it until the vmware starts sending cpu errors, then back it off a little bit

granite cloak Apr 2, 2020, 5:31 PM

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ay just hit 10 million points :D

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 5:31 PM

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I 100% agree with this statement

just make sure it's for Team LTT!
@supple laurel

storm talon Apr 2, 2020, 5:31 PM

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when ur cpu graphs look like this, you know you're folding

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smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 5:31 PM

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I read somewhere that FAH generates an id at install. Will cloning an install, and that id, cause any issue?

storm talon Apr 2, 2020, 5:32 PM

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hasn't caused any issues for me

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 5:32 PM

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And yes, it will be for #teamltt

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Are there any options? Folding for #teampcmr is so 2019.

storm talon Apr 2, 2020, 5:32 PM

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the only thing I ran into is if you clone a machine with a running job, it'll clone the job and error out

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 5:32 PM

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also I think the id is generated on the slot level, not client btw

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Generated when it requests a job afaik

supple laurel Apr 2, 2020, 5:33 PM

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@rich turtle said hes going to team EVGA... he even wrote a letter about it.

storm talon Apr 2, 2020, 5:33 PM

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^^^ what spectrum said

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just make sure you're not folding when u clone and it'll be fine

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 5:33 PM

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@supple laurel april fools was yesterday, please go away for another year 🙂

noble hatch Apr 2, 2020, 5:33 PM

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I read somewhere that FAH generates an id at install. Will cloning an install, and that id, cause any issue?
@smoky rose
when ur cpu graphs look like this, you know you're folding
@storm talon and not like this

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smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Install Debian
Install FAH
Config slot(s)
Enable fold on boot
Clone
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Profit?

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Yeah if it in progress when you clone, the F@H servers think you are trying to game the system and get unhappy about it

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Well folding profit anyway! @smoky rose

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Do the linux client start folding automagically or do you have to start it?

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 5:36 PM

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I believe it just folds like the win client does, but not so sure.

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 5:38 PM

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I'll ping you guys if I get an offer impossible to refuse.

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Btw, pronoun is (singular) they/them.

I'm off to the store. Ta ta.

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Bye!

rich turtle Apr 2, 2020, 5:39 PM

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👀

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Den-fi looks like people are out to get the king at this rate

rich turtle Apr 2, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Good, good.
If my tyranny gets more aggressive folders, then I am doing my job on the throne. Bizarreainsley

noble hatch Apr 2, 2020, 5:42 PM

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hate it when i dont get WUs, all day it's sit idle. have to pause it, then start, that way i get a new job

queen aurora Apr 2, 2020, 5:43 PM

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@smoky rose https://hub.docker.com/r/linuxserver/foldingathome just docker it and let something like portainer handle the distribution

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 5:43 PM

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I read that as Tranny... FML dyslexia can be fun sometimes

solid anchor Apr 2, 2020, 6:02 PM

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@smoky rose Remember to configure your passcode though!

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Team and passcode

solid anchor Apr 2, 2020, 6:03 PM

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@smoky rose And if you are using VMware, look to see if you can passthrough GPUs or vGPUs.

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 6:10 PM

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I don't think there are any GPUs at that place. Maybe there are, I'll check.

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@storm talon How are your cpu slots configured? I think there are some 2000 cores in that room. 500 x 4 threads feels stupid. What's the upper limit? 32?

storm talon Apr 2, 2020, 6:12 PM

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idk what the limit is, play around 😉

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my most efficient work has come out of quad cores machines, cause each of my servers have 64 cores

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 6:13 PM

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32 is often seen as a soft max, honestly setting 4 cores is just going to bog down the F@H servers so please DO NOT do that

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Also avoid prime numbers, it doesnt seem to like that for some reason. With the QRB you are better setting bigger thread counts as you smash through the WUs quicker and get more points per work unit

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Avoid prime numbers, multiples of 3, 4 and 5 are great, good, ok (in that order). 32 soft max.

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So, 16? 24?

storm talon Apr 2, 2020, 6:25 PM

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yea, looking at my stats the quad cores aren't performing so well anymore as they were in the start.

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time to retool

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 6:26 PM

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24 I'd do myself

storm talon Apr 2, 2020, 6:27 PM

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noble hatch Apr 2, 2020, 6:28 PM

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make sure the Firewall is open to incomming 36330 traffic before you clone it, so you can control all FAH clients..

storm talon Apr 2, 2020, 6:28 PM

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rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 6:29 PM

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How many slots you running on that 64?

storm talon Apr 2, 2020, 6:29 PM

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1

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 6:29 PM

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OFF

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OOF*

storm talon Apr 2, 2020, 6:29 PM

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lets see if I get a job 😉

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 6:29 PM

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@silver wing ha had issues with high threadcount slots erroring out

noble hatch Apr 2, 2020, 6:30 PM

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@silver wing ha had issues with high threadcount slots erroring out
@rich depot i have a 24core, altso erroing out

timber grove Apr 2, 2020, 6:30 PM

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im finally at 40 mil points

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 6:30 PM

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16 it is then.

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Interesting @noble hatch what error you getting?

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I have seen people with 32 mostly fine, never heard of a 24 erroring out before I don't think

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Also what chip? I know NUMA can cause issues with folding

noble hatch Apr 2, 2020, 6:32 PM

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running 2x e5 2630

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 6:33 PM

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That may be the issue then, early threadrippers also has issues, you get effected less on Linux than on windows though, but it still can be a problem

storm talon Apr 2, 2020, 6:33 PM

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Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X7550 @ 2.00GHz

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 6:34 PM

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1P?

storm talon Apr 2, 2020, 6:38 PM

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?

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Single socket

storm talon Apr 2, 2020, 6:40 PM

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no, dual

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Ahh

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NUMA may cause reduced PPD if you don't handle the thread allocation properly

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Man, it has been hours without any proper heating in here now. If this drought continues much longer I'm going to have to turn something else on.

vague flint Apr 2, 2020, 6:48 PM

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OH

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smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Time to download some gpu benchmarks 🙂

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 6:52 PM

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why? can't get a cpu or gpu task?

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 6:53 PM

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GPU

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Been several hours.

vague flint Apr 2, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Whens the last time you paused and resumed?

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I have everything maxed out currently and just got gpu jobs in the past few minutes

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smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 6:59 PM

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12 minutes ago.

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 7:05 PM

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3990x is nuts at folding. I have managed to have 96 threads folding at the same time, but I can’t reach all 128 threads. The processes begin overlapping cores and instead of 20 minutes it takes 2 hours. Does anyone know how to setup a CPU with expert settings to designate SPECIFIC cores and threads to a job?

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vague flint Apr 2, 2020, 7:07 PM

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You might be able to use process lasso to designate which threads fahcore can use.

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I didn't do that but I know it's possible. I also broke mine down to 4-thread slots on my 3950X and 1700X systems. Helps spread the load and get more WUs overall.

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Yeah I was looking into splitting them further, but after some testing, I really prefer giving 32 cores to each job to get them out quicker and on to the next one. I might have to mix and match to test around and see what works best.

vague flint Apr 2, 2020, 7:10 PM

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It is odd though if it's overlapping. Is your 3990X split into multiple NUMA nodes?

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Maybe 3x32 and a few 4s, 8s or 16s

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@vague flint that’s what blew me away

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The overlapping

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Cuz I could essentially get more WUs but it beats the purpose and slows it down beyond 50%

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🤷‍♂️

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So I’ve been keeping it at 64 threads to avoid the overlapping

vague flint Apr 2, 2020, 7:12 PM

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If you go into task manager and the CPU graph, is there an option when you right click to show by NUMA nodes?

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Yep

vague flint Apr 2, 2020, 7:13 PM

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How many does it show?

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Just the two

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Each 32 cores

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vague flint Apr 2, 2020, 7:14 PM

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I think FAH is restricted to one NUMA node.

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Which is why you see performance loss over 64 threads

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Hmmmm

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That’s interesting

vague flint Apr 2, 2020, 7:15 PM

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It'll spawn 96 process threads, but it only has 64 to work with

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 7:15 PM

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But odd. How did I manage 96 separate threads the other day?

vague flint Apr 2, 2020, 7:15 PM

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So they fight for resources.

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It'll still spawn that many threads.

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Process threads are separate from physical threads.

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 7:15 PM

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I was looking at the threads and it showed 96 separate ones, not just 64

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It was so odd

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Yet wonderful

ancient bone Apr 2, 2020, 7:16 PM

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i have been folding and left the pc for som hours .. im pretty sure this is a glitch... right?

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polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 7:16 PM

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It was when I set it at 128 it started overlapping

vague flint Apr 2, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Threads on what? Task manager? Was it utilizing more than 64 threads for FAH?

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 7:16 PM

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So odd

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@vague flint yeah

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In this view

vague flint Apr 2, 2020, 7:16 PM

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That's very odd

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 7:16 PM

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In that window

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I had 96

vague flint Apr 2, 2020, 7:17 PM

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96 pegged at near 100%?

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Usually it’s only 64 on the bottom Numa node

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But yeah 96 at 100%

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it was super bomb

vague flint Apr 2, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Were you running any other programs?

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 7:17 PM

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But I haven’t been able to go over it

weary epoch Apr 2, 2020, 7:17 PM

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you're probably looking at processor groups. Windows uses a 64-bit affinity mask, so obviously one affinity mask can only apply to 64 threads. To scale across multiple processor groups, you have to be processor group aware

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Not that I remember

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@weary epoch very interesting

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Hmmm

weary epoch Apr 2, 2020, 7:18 PM

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https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/procthread/processor-groups
"by default an application is constrained to a single group"

Processor Groups - Win32 apps

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so your application needs to call SetThreadGroupAffinity to put some threads on a different group of 64 cores

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from what you're seeing, I guess fah doesn't

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 7:19 PM

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How would I go about doing this designation?

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I have to research the expert settings a lot more

weary epoch Apr 2, 2020, 7:21 PM

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SetThreadGroupAffinity has to be called from within the application. FAH code has to call it

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but also fah seems to use mpirun, so whatever mpi library they're using might need to support it

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I don't have a CPU with more than 64 cores so I can't exactly play with it

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 7:23 PM

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The good thing is, because each folding core is a application of its own you can use more than 64 threads, just split it into multiple slots, soft max is 32 threads per slot

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Finally. Downloading a WU.

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Here we go, mmm, heat.

rocky otter Apr 2, 2020, 7:36 PM

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if I play a game with F@H in the background will it impact game performance?

timber grove Apr 2, 2020, 7:36 PM

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yes

rocky otter Apr 2, 2020, 7:37 PM

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even a 2d platformer?

timber grove Apr 2, 2020, 7:37 PM

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maybe

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what card

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 7:40 PM

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@storm talon What do you use to remote manage your machines?

solid thunder Apr 2, 2020, 7:41 PM

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man i've completed 3 WUs today

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that's gotta be a record

storm talon Apr 2, 2020, 7:42 PM

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the folding client

solid thunder Apr 2, 2020, 7:42 PM

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i really hope we get that new f@h vid soon since we seem to be dipping in users active

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 7:46 PM

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@rocky otter depends on your processor. Best might be to set F@H to idle only, so it doesn’t affect your gameplay

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@rich depot that’s the thing, I set up 4 separate 32 core slots, but after 96 they begin overlapping

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So even though I set it up, it won’t do all 128 threads

crude yew Apr 2, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Why was I pinged?

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@polar folio

solid thunder Apr 2, 2020, 7:48 PM

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check out my rig @crude yews

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Oh shit, I thought I sent it to @rich depot, sorry @crude yew

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Tapping like a mad man

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Interesting

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 7:50 PM

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That’s what I said

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Time for some VM fun then!

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Yeah, I was thinking that was “da way”

crude yew Apr 2, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Your good

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 7:53 PM

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I might run it in Unraid, their folding app seem to just install and go. Config file needs some editing to assign username and pass key, but it just seems to go full throttle on all threads in my intel machine. I’ll have to run it on this amd machine to see if it can tackle all threads or not.

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Plus, barely any overhead

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 7:54 PM

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@storm talon I've read that remote management is limited to your local network. I just took at look at the remote access configuration and and to me it seems like people who say that don't understand how to allow connections. What's your experience?

storm talon Apr 2, 2020, 8:02 PM

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If you know how to forward ports from your router it's not an issue. Personally I have a layer2 vpn to my data centers so it's technically on lan

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 8:23 PM

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If it is not already in place I will set up a vpn server and do the same thing.

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But I might end up with machines at places where that is not an option. Opening up ports wont be an issue though.

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 8:42 PM

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oeh, I have cracked the 1mil points today or yesterday

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Also, my pc just froze while starting a new folding project

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Does this have impact on the folding?

main ether Apr 2, 2020, 8:52 PM

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How frozen is it?

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 8:52 PM

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As in corrupting the data or just not running while frozen?

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Completely unresponsive, screen frozen

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Had to restart it

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BTW guys if you saw a spike in your points around 3-6am CDT that was F@H forcing a correction for the WUs that didn't get recorded. Jusy a PSA

solid thunder Apr 2, 2020, 9:05 PM

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has no idea what time that is because i don't live in CDT but is anyway

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Nice, even more points for the ltt team :)

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Can we beat evga before this month is over?

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 9:19 PM

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https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=223518

EXTREME Overclocking

LinusTechTips_Team Team Summary - Folding@Home Stats

F@H stats team summary for LinusTechTips_Team. Help Folding at Home fight Coronavirus, further medical research, and prevent diseases with distributed computing!

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Projection is 1.7 months to overtake EVGA.

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But just a few days ago we had over a year to overtake Curecoin and today that is down to 9.4 months.

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Tell all your friends to start folding. Heck, get your pets folding!

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 9:21 PM

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My cat says no and brought me a mouse instead

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Alive or dead?

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Think I have a candidate for a pinned message.

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You can enter any number from 1 to the number of threads your CPU supports.
If you have GPUs, F@H reserves one CPU per GPU to feed it data across the PCIE bus.
F@H has difficulty with large primes and their multiples number of CPUs.
7 is always large, 5 is sometimes large, and 3 is never large. Try to choose a number that is a multiple of 2 and/or 3.
2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 12, 16, 18, 24, 27, etc. are good numbers of CPUs to choose.
5. 10. 15, 20 etc may work most of the time. Other numbers will bite you```

gusty path Apr 2, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Barely had any GPU workloads at the home rig grrrrrr!

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Today has been a step back in that regard.

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 9:53 PM

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The event thread just hit 400 pages.... I just dont even know what to say

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 9:53 PM

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But I will break 1M when this wU is done.

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 9:58 PM

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You can enter any number from 1 to the number of threads your CPU supports.
If you have GPUs, F@H reserves one CPU per GPU to feed it data across the PCIE bus.
F@H has difficulty with large primes and their multiples number of CPUs.
7 is always large, 5 is sometimes large, and 3 is never large. Try to choose a number that is a multiple of 2 and/or 3.
2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 12, 16, 18, 24, 27, etc. are good numbers of CPUs to choose.
5. 10. 15, 20 etc may work most of the time. Other numbers will bite you```

@smoky rose I think it would be complete with some documentation about the 32 core limit. Also some information on how to go beyond 32 cores by setting up more CPU slots with the remaining cores. I only mention this because a few people are getting their hands on Threadrippers and finding a few limitations.

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Me included TBH

silver wing Apr 2, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Those are for the Windows client though right?

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 10:00 PM

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I'm using the windows one too

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 10:01 PM

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That's the standard reply on FAH forum for any OS.

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 10:01 PM

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copy that

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hmmm

silver wing Apr 2, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Software also doesn't reserve core for me when using AMD GPUs

supple laurel Apr 2, 2020, 10:01 PM

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most people don't read the pinns anyways...

silver wing Apr 2, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Must be 32 cores per NUMA node or socket then because I've not had to do anything on my systems with more than 32 cores at all

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 10:03 PM

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People also talk about a soft limit at 32 threads. I don't have access to such system at the moment so I have no idea.

silver wing Apr 2, 2020, 10:03 PM

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two of mine have 96 cores, default config is single slot 96 cores and it loads them all fine

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Linux

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Here is an example of my overlapping issue. I set up 96 threads, but it uses only 64, overlapping the WUs and making them take a lot more than twice as long.

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silver wing Apr 2, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Yea I'm pretty sure thats a windows only thing

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 10:04 PM

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N

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NUMA related problem?

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Most likely

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Buuuut

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I did get it working with 96 when I set it up for 128

silver wing Apr 2, 2020, 10:05 PM

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as you said it's not a big deal though, just use 2 CPU slots etc

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Do we have anyone who run more than 4 GPUs in a single machine?

silver wing Apr 2, 2020, 10:06 PM

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I have

supple laurel Apr 2, 2020, 10:06 PM

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that looks like a differant problem though. hes got it broke in to 3 32 groups so that 96 threads but it's only using 64

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 10:06 PM

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What's the RAM usage like?

silver wing Apr 2, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Ahh... I didn't have to worry lol

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Low like bitcoin mining or high like hashcracking?

silver wing Apr 2, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Dual socket server with 386GB RAM and 8 Tesla P4

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it was fine 😉

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 10:07 PM

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64 GB GPU memory?

silver wing Apr 2, 2020, 10:07 PM

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I never bothered to check because it wasn't going to be a problem

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Can you check what the ram usage is when all 8 are running?

silver wing Apr 2, 2020, 10:08 PM

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nope, had to give the server back

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it was on loan

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Darn

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Here is the example of 128 threads, but it is fake, because it only used 96... fact of the matter is, it used 96 instead of 64 on a single Numa node... so... shrug? I'm sorry i don't have an image of the task manager, i didn't take it with the 96 threads, but please believe me, lol, they were 96 at 100%, lol. So in essence, it CAN use 2 NUMA nodes?

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supple laurel Apr 2, 2020, 10:08 PM

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does den-fi run muti in 1 system or are all his in differant systems?

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 10:09 PM

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I run a single 1060. FaHCore_22 is currently using 551mb ram.

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@polar folio How many cores do you have in that system?

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Hey @silver wing, are you running Linux to get all 96 threads in a single entry?

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@smoky rose I have 64 cores, 128 threads, 3990x

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 10:11 PM

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I have been team blue for a very long time but the threadrippers are kind of sexy.

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 10:11 PM

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when I run 2 slots of 32, total 64, it simply uses the 2nd Numa node full on, 100%

hushed bobcat Apr 2, 2020, 10:11 PM

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@smoky rose My dual GPU System (GTX 660Ti and GT 730) is using 476.5MB of RAM

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 10:12 PM

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@hushed bobcat How much GPU memory?

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The reason I am asking about systems with 4+ GPUs is this thread
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1172018-foldinghome-occasionally-owning-all-ram-linux/?tab=comments#comment-13435714

Linus Tech Tips

Folding@Home occasionally owning all ram (linux)

Ive got a headless ubuntu server with 7 nvidia gpus. Its normally for mining but I switched it over to folding last week. Twice now its got to a point where I cant ssh in. One time I managed to get in to find load average of 24+ and got to a point where any command executed re...

hushed bobcat Apr 2, 2020, 10:13 PM

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@smoky rose Interesting, Task manager says 0.3GB for the 660Ti and 0.0 for the GT 730

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 10:14 PM

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It feels like folding positions itself between mining and hashcracking.

silver wing Apr 2, 2020, 10:14 PM

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@polar folio Yes Linux but also 4 sockets

hushed bobcat Apr 2, 2020, 10:14 PM

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but HWinfo64 says 15.5% VRAM usage (GB VRAM) for the 660Ti and 8.3% usage (1GB VRAM) for the 730

polar folio Apr 2, 2020, 10:15 PM

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@silver wing so awesome

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Rephrase
How much video memory do your cards have and how much system ram is used?

hushed bobcat Apr 2, 2020, 10:16 PM

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476.5 MB of RAM usage for a total of 3 GB of VRAM

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my main system is using 856.4MB of RAM for 11GB of VRAM

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one card

mild kiln Apr 2, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Linux has 4 sockets dang

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I really need to reposition my rad

hushed bobcat Apr 2, 2020, 10:23 PM

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@smoky rose I have another 660Ti in another System, It's using 310.5MB of RAM

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I'm just counting the FAHCore_22 usage BTW

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 10:25 PM

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For hashcracking you need at least as much ram as video memory. 8x 2080Ti = 88GB. Round that up to 128GB. Want to use the machine for something else while cracking away, add more ram accordingly.

Folding do not seem to be that bad.

hushed bobcat Apr 2, 2020, 10:26 PM

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from my numbers it seems you need around 15% of your total VRAM in RAM?

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you said your 1060 used 551MB (assuming is a 6GB) thats actually a little less than 10%

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 10:27 PM

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6GB, yes.

hushed bobcat Apr 2, 2020, 10:28 PM

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so you could do 8 2080Ti's on 16 GB of RAM

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that would only be around 7-10GB of RAM usage correct?

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Think I'd like to see some numbers from people running multiple high end cards.

hushed bobcat Apr 2, 2020, 10:33 PM

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@silver wing looking on the eBay again, I just found 3 RTX 2060's pulled out of Dell machines for $260 each

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that seems like a stupid good deal

silver wing Apr 2, 2020, 10:35 PM

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ohhh hmm

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$471 local currency, $649 in store new

hushed bobcat Apr 2, 2020, 10:38 PM

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you don't think they would have some weird VBIOS on them do you?

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Canadian peso or US $?

silver wing Apr 2, 2020, 10:39 PM

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shouldn't be too weird

hushed bobcat Apr 2, 2020, 10:39 PM

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probably cant crank the power slider

silver wing Apr 2, 2020, 10:39 PM

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might have lower board power limit than better AIB

hushed bobcat Apr 2, 2020, 10:40 PM

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still for folding thats been shown to not help much

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setting the power to 70-80% seems to give the best PPD per Watt

proven marlin Apr 2, 2020, 10:45 PM

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okay, I was pinged in here, but it so way back that requires a lot of scrolling up.

silver wing Apr 2, 2020, 10:46 PM

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click jump to?

solid thunder Apr 2, 2020, 10:49 PM

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best ppd per what?

proven marlin Apr 2, 2020, 10:50 PM

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where be the click jump to?

solid thunder Apr 2, 2020, 10:50 PM

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top-right, right?

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 10:51 PM

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click the @ in top right.

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Mentions

proven marlin Apr 2, 2020, 10:51 PM

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ah, okay, so that @ symbol deal

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 10:52 PM

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@hushed bobcat Progress 45%, 1060 6GB, FaHCore_22.exe, 634MB RAM. It's consuming more ram as it works through the job.

hushed bobcat Apr 2, 2020, 11:04 PM

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Progress 19%, 1080Ti 11GB, FaHCore_22.exe, 796.3 MB RAM

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new job

rich turtle Apr 2, 2020, 11:16 PM

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@unique sigil If I bought 5 of the folding shirts to add to the folding week prize pot, would you guys ship them to the winners (I would also pay the shipping).

solid thunder Apr 2, 2020, 11:16 PM

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staff ping pog

stray juniper Apr 2, 2020, 11:22 PM

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PogChomp

raw marsh Apr 2, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Guys I’m confused how do I use it.

odd barn Apr 2, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Pogey

smoky rose Apr 2, 2020, 11:48 PM

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@raw marsh Use what?

odd barn Apr 2, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Am I doing it right

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raw marsh Apr 2, 2020, 11:55 PM

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@smoky rose when I click start, nothing happens

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It just says ready

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 11:55 PM

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you have to wait for your pc to get instructions

raw marsh Apr 2, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Ok

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How long does that usually take

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 11:56 PM

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it varies

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sometimes my pc is under full load and other times I get nothing

raw marsh Apr 2, 2020, 11:57 PM

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I’m doing it on 2 computers 😄

rich depot Apr 2, 2020, 11:57 PM

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I once idled for 3 days while waiting for a new load so yea

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Gonna see if I can get it running on my RDP

plain geyser Apr 3, 2020, 12:05 AM

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something wrong with the server? of my 4 system only 1 GPU on one system is able to get work

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the rest are just sitting on the status "ready"

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Means they're waiting for new tasks

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We too good at folding it seems kappa

plain geyser Apr 3, 2020, 12:08 AM

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haha man i have 6 GPU and 4 CPUs ready to work but it seem only the 1060 is able to get work lol. thr 1080 ti, 1080 2060s are all just siting idle

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 12:09 AM

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I got workloads on everything I think both my RDP CPU and my main pc CPU & GPU are on max rn

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Tring to get my RDP setup on the FAH control but I'm getting stuck on connecting

unique sigil Apr 3, 2020, 12:10 AM

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https://www.lttstore.com/products/folding-home-x-linus-tech-tips-t-shirt

Linus Tech Tips Store

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All profits from these t-shirts will be used to fund efforts around COVID-19 research and relief in Canada. Each dollar raised toward those efforts will be matched toward Folding@Home by Intel, up to a maximum contribution of $40,000 USD. THIS ITEM IS SOLD AS A PRE-ORDER. ALL ...

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the shirt is poggers

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 12:10 AM

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ait imma buy it

plain geyser Apr 3, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Woo

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 12:10 AM

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@rich depot did you set the IP range in the whitelist?

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Ugh I hate american keyboards I believe I've set it up correctly I'll try again

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Can I leave the deny box empty?

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 12:12 AM

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you shouldnt have to

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 12:12 AM

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Just re did it still nothing

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 12:13 AM

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📎 nowu.png

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@raw marsh Fire up the advanced control, third tab (log)

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@rich depot I've seen several posts about making changes to the remote access config. Restart FAH for the changes to take effect.

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 12:17 AM

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ah I see I'm an idiot lol got it running

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smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 12:19 AM

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Restart fixed it or are you another kind of idiot? 😛

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 12:19 AM

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Restart fixed it should've thought about turning it on and off again haha

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 12:25 AM

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It is running, you make changes, you turn it on and then off...how does that work?

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:25 AM

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if it's linux they implemented the daemon in a weird way, so that restarting the process doesn't actually restart anything

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 12:26 AM

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Don't worry about it I'm a rocket surgeon I definitely know what I'm doing

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:26 AM

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worst case ontario, reboot

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 12:26 AM

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Time to get my laptop running this I guess

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 12:27 AM

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@storm talon What if you stop and start it?

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Or do you need to cause an unexpected reboot?

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:27 AM

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there's something weird about their init script. I found that doing a stop/start or a restart doesn't change config or open ports

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it's just janky

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 12:28 AM

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@smoky rose
Progress 19%, 1080Ti 11GB, FaHCore_22.exe, 796.3 MB RAM
Progress 93%, 1080Ti 11GB, FaHCore_22.exe, 859 MB RAM

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 12:28 AM

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An unexpected reboot it is then.

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:29 AM

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yea

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 12:31 AM

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@hushed bobcat A repurposed mining rig with 8x GPU and minimal ram will run into problems. Damn it people, just add a stick or two.

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 12:32 AM

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problem is you need a server not just a mining rig

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 12:32 AM

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As in a good enough CPU to feed the GPUs work?

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 12:33 AM

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most mining rigs have stuff like PCI to USB to PCIE slot adapters that only have 1x or MAYBE 4X PCIE lanes

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Can you do folding with 1x/4x risers?

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 12:33 AM

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its been proven on here that you need 8X PCIE 2.0 Minimum

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 12:33 AM

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kk

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 12:34 AM

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it will technically work

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Is it a bottleneck?

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 12:34 AM

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but your PPD will be severely hampered

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unlike mining the CPU needs to stream constant data to the GPU, hence why we need atleast 1 thread per GPU slot

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 12:35 AM

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You will not be able to fully utilize the GPUs then. Got it.

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 12:35 AM

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while in mining you can mine with 8 GPU's on a celeron

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yep

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that being said....

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 12:35 AM

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I have not done any mining, I come from hashcracking.

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 12:35 AM

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-G25N-G51-Server/183673106775?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

eBay

GIGABYTE G25N-G51 Server

Product Type Server.

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Same thing there. Plus you need more ram than you have video memory.

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 12:35 AM

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this would work...

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:35 AM

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@smoky rose any experience with bitcoin wallets?

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I have one I forgot the password to, bought a commercial cracker that ran for 4 months

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Yes. But I don't have the hardware to do it at the moment.

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Do you know how long the password is?

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:38 AM

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8-9 chars

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 12:38 AM

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You do though. I could help you set something up on your machines.

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:39 AM

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was looking into hashcat

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but yea, there's about 39 thousand bucks in btc in there

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 12:39 AM

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hashcat is what I've been using.

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:40 AM

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what do you need

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 12:40 AM

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I'm on my way to bed now but we can look into that tomorrow.

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:40 AM

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i can stage up some stuff in advance

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Umm, first I need to find out if it runs best on cpu or gpu.

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https://raw.githubusercontent.com/magnumripper/JohnTheRipper/bleeding-jumbo/run/bitcoin2john.py

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Use that script to extract the hash.

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:41 AM

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ya i got the hash

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aite then, lets discuss it more tomorrow. i'm interested in getting it opened up for obvious reasons

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 12:42 AM

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With that amount of cash on it, I get it.

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:43 AM

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yea i already ran that script i got the output here somewhere

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:44 AM

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what are y'all doin

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:44 AM

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configuring bgp on my new gigabit bell fibre

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:45 AM

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ooh you lucky duck

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:45 AM

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2500$ and it took em 4 months to install and light up

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Wait, you had to pay?

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:45 AM

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for the install yea

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we got 12 strands ran from the fdu

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Oooh, that's probably why

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:46 AM

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commercial install

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$$$

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Yeah okay that makes sense

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I was gonna say, if this were residential what is you doin

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:46 AM

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lol nah residential install is like 80 bucks

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:47 AM

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They waived residential install for us actually

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:47 AM

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they don't do a otdr on the line tho

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Do they expect you to?

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:47 AM

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we have 0.6db loss between our two sites

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well they do for a commercial install

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:48 AM

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I honestly don't know what spec is but isn't it supposed to be as close to 0.01 as possible?

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or 0.1

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:48 AM

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not sure, but 0.6 was considered a pass

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Interesting

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:48 AM

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full.gigabit

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between our two location

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:49 AM

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I'm wondering if Bell will allow pair bonding

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or if that's something I've got to do myself

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:49 AM

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idk

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we plugged their sfp into an edgerouter and told em to frig off

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:49 AM

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lmao, good stuff

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 12:49 AM

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oops

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odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:49 AM

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I'm assuming you got the VLAN's and all that going

whole fog Apr 3, 2020, 12:51 AM

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@smoky rose you criminal

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:52 AM

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yea they put us on 11 for some weird reason

whole fog Apr 3, 2020, 12:52 AM

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🤣

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Not full time. My hats are grey.

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Interesting

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:52 AM

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i know residential is 25/26

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:52 AM

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I'm used to seeing VLAN 35 but I think it's region based isn't it?

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:53 AM

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35 yea my bad

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36 is tv

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:53 AM

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no worries

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 12:53 AM

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nice

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odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:53 AM

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and 34 is phone, if you somehow figure out how to get that to work

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:54 AM

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idk when I had ftth I bypassed it but still had to use their HH3k for tv

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:54 AM

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It's multicast

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So you need to fiddle with settings for it

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I'm not 100% sure since most don't have IPTV

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:55 AM

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look up ASN 55021 on bgpview 😉

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:55 AM

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will do

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:55 AM

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we have .... a few ips

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:55 AM

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bgpview.io?

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:55 AM

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ya

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:55 AM

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Ah there we go

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haven't touched the page before

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:56 AM

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that's us

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:56 AM

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The graphs though

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:56 AM

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ya we indirectly peer to a lot of IX's

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we use multipath thru bell and FN

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:57 AM

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Ahhh I see

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:57 AM

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so we can announce our IP's at any site we want, it's pretty neat

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:57 AM

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that's cool

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:58 AM

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we're small fish

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but we're technically an ISP

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:58 AM

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oh wow

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I never quite got it through my head how ISP's work, like yeah I get you provide IP's to people who have modems, but once data gets processed to you guys, does it just travel over the network to the server from the hops?

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:59 AM

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we can route an ip any way we want really

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:59 AM

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ooh

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 12:59 AM

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all of ours stay internal though we don't sell internet to consumers

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:59 AM

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gotcha

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 1:00 AM

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we're sitting on a good chunk of revenue there though. ipv4's are very scarce

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and we have 5 /24's from ARIN

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 1:00 AM

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is the v6 range more expensive?

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Or like, what's the purpose

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 1:00 AM

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sec

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 1:01 AM

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sure

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 1:02 AM

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odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 1:02 AM

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whoa

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 1:02 AM

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yea. they're running out and the price keeps going up

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v6 is set to replace v4 but on the server / isp side it's not widely adopted yet

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lol arin is allowing you to request v6 space for basically nothing rn

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odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 1:06 AM

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I think Rogers was trying to adopt it at one point and then gave up because of technical issues

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 1:07 AM

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teksavvy finally got it

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 1:14 AM

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@storm talon Is there any point to IPV6 on your local network?

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 1:38 AM

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to...use? I'd say most, if not all, of your devices have ipv6 addresses.

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 1:39 AM

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i meant why use 6 over 4 on your own local network

dusk ruin Apr 3, 2020, 1:39 AM

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dont seem to be getting and wu?

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stuck on downloading

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Just wait Ender, servers are giving out as many as they can

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if your time until next attempt goes over an hour pause and resume folding

dusk ruin Apr 3, 2020, 1:42 AM

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i see

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 1:44 AM

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@dusk ruin Where do you read "downloading"?

dusk ruin Apr 3, 2020, 1:44 AM

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download

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for the status

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 1:45 AM

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In the web interface? Advanced control?

dusk ruin Apr 3, 2020, 1:45 AM

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advanced control

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 1:45 AM

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Third tab, log

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Open that one

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📎 nowu.png

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See something that looks like this?

dusk ruin Apr 3, 2020, 1:45 AM

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oh, looks like it is downloading some thing right now

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 1:46 AM

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"No WUs available for this config"

dusk ruin Apr 3, 2020, 1:46 AM

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looks like I got something

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smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 1:46 AM

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Look further up in the log. See that error message?

dusk ruin Apr 3, 2020, 1:46 AM

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yes

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No WUs available for this configuration

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 1:46 AM

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The servers are being hammered so hard they can't deal with you at that moment.

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Friendly fire ddos

dusk ruin Apr 3, 2020, 1:47 AM

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yay, it started

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Sometimes you get a WU at the first try. Sometimes it's a game of luck.

dusk ruin Apr 3, 2020, 1:48 AM

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did linus set up a job server?

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Yes

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Jake did

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serving CPU jobs only last i looked

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Well, Linus built it. Jake set it up. LMG runs a server.

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https://apps.foldingathome.org/serverstats

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 1:49 AM

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https://apps.foldingathome.org/serverstats

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Its name is linus1.foldingathome.org

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 1:49 AM

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aww beat me to it

dusk ruin Apr 3, 2020, 1:52 AM

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well, now have heat so that's good

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Do you rely on your gpu for heat too?

dusk ruin Apr 3, 2020, 1:53 AM

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pretty cold in my room rn

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it is a laptop, a heated keyboard is nice

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 3:28 AM

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Don't you just love it when a WU is queued and ready for you

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rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Oh i do https://i-am-god.reeee.ee/JL3tDM.gif

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 5:04 AM

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I just found this on AMD's latest driver

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Running Folding@Home while also running an application using hardware acceleration of video content can cause a system hang or black screen. A potential workaround is disabling hardware acceleration for the application that has it enabled.

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A known issue

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weird how AMD has this but NVIDIA none

weary epoch Apr 3, 2020, 5:05 AM

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I wonder why they specifically call out folding at home and not compute in general

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 5:05 AM

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cause the LTT demand maybe

weary epoch Apr 3, 2020, 5:06 AM

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perhaps don't be on the latest driver? is it a known issue with previous drivers?

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 5:06 AM

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dunno

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I have no issues

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but at least try to fix it in driver revisions too AMD these known bugs

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Yeah

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Btw, are we doing such a good job at folding that even the stats at eoc can't keep up?

fierce steppe Apr 3, 2020, 5:11 AM

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basically

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Noice

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Keep it up kids💪 💪

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Know a dude who re oriented his 16x GPU mining setup for FAH man be making too many points

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You can't make too many points

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And did he even crack the top20 of the ltt team?

weary epoch Apr 3, 2020, 5:14 AM

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much better use of gpu time than mining, kudos to him

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 5:14 AM

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idk haven't asked him too much about it he just told me about FAH so i was like yea imma join

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much better use of gpu time than mining, kudos to him
@weary epoch def true!

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I mean if it helps to know he was mining curecoin i think

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I mean if it helps to know he was mining curecoin i think
@rich depot meh, "wrong" team

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Still nice he's folding though

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Yea, it's for a good cause

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and it's a nice way to keep ur system acting as a radiator during winter

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Exactly

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Struggling a bit on my end to keep the airflow good enough since I can't open my window on full

fierce steppe Apr 3, 2020, 5:17 AM

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5.5B points for the day

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 5:17 AM

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My room temp is usually around 10-15c now it's 35c kappa

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Mate I'm struggling to make 700k a day

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Holy fuck, what are you running?

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Thats a lot of heat

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Running all I have on max kappa

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I would setup my oculus quest as well but I highly doubt there's anything for that

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I'm just waiting for my recent assignments to finish up so I can dedicate all to school shit

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my current temps n stuff btw

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rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 6:32 AM

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When you have 3 tasks running and the next one already qued up :) doing a good job folding team staff!

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storm cipher Apr 3, 2020, 7:52 AM

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Decided to start folding on one of my many dust collectors.

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Old Lenovo from like 2007 with a GPU (Quadro NVS 140M)

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Got 4 machine total in my network folding!

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rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 8:06 AM

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Nice

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 9:56 AM

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never knew quadro existed in laptops

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I'm having issue sending completed #11748

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rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 10:00 AM

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@marble quartz it'll try again prob

tepid sphinx Apr 3, 2020, 10:44 AM

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Hey, is anyone else getting a load of "BAD_WORK_UNIT" for GPUs?

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 10:48 AM

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nvm suddenly uploading now

sterile skiff Apr 3, 2020, 11:15 AM

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https://pastebin.com/raw/REE0z5ML

Guys I got these errors on a Q6600 with GTX 650Ti
The CPU is overclocked to 3.0 Ghz (from 2.4) but my GPU isn't OC at all

Could the CPU overclock influence GPU Working Units?

My sistem is really really too slow for me at 2.4 GHz 😅

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 11:17 AM

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do you get these errors constantly or just this time? @sterile skiff

tepid sphinx Apr 3, 2020, 11:22 AM

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I just tried bringing my GPU back to stock and see if that fixes it and if it doesn't, I'll try downclocking.

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 11:33 AM

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I just split my CPU into 2 separate slots so 4 cores per two slots, which I guess is actually working out in my favour

sterile skiff Apr 3, 2020, 11:44 AM

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do you get these errors constantly or just this time? @sterile skiff
@rich depot randomly, but this isn't the first time

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I just split my CPU into 2 separate slots so 4 cores per two slots, which I guess is actually working out in my favour
@odd barn they suggest just to do a single WU at time in the fastest way

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https://foldingathome.org/support/faq/running-foldinghome/

Folding@home

Folding@Home

Running Folding@Home

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 11:52 AM

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ooh

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If that's the case then I'll just set everything to finish and start over

sterile skiff Apr 3, 2020, 11:53 AM

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yep, use all cores for a single WU, someone else will do the 'other one' at same speed or even faster with a faster CPU😅

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their server are brokin anyway
10:41:07:WU00:FS01:Requesting new work unit for slot 01: READY gpu:0:GK106 [GeForce GTX 650 Ti] from 40.114.52.201
10:41:07:WU00:FS01:Connecting to 40.114.52.201:8080
10:41:27:ERROR:WU00:FS01:Exception: 10002: Received short response, expected 512 bytes, got 0

mystic hollow Apr 3, 2020, 11:55 AM

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while that is all nice and cool, there is the problem that if you have too many cores, you won't get WU's that often

sterile skiff Apr 3, 2020, 11:56 AM

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while that is all nice and cool, there is the problem that if you have too many cores, you won't get WU's that often
@mystic hollow yes this too is a problem resulting in half CPU working

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why they do not reward with an ICO token or acrypto or something similiar? it could improve general interest from people

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 11:58 AM

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@sterile skiff Check out CureCoin or Folding@ EVGA

stark bough Apr 3, 2020, 11:59 AM

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^^^

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 12:09 PM

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@sterile skiff while your screen is technically correct, I don't think it really applies to people with extreme corecount cpu's. I think thats mostly aimed at people who have 4 cores and split them into 1 core wu's. not to people who split their cpu into 4 core wu's.

sterile skiff Apr 3, 2020, 12:11 PM

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isn't 16 cores for example still faster than 4?

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 12:11 PM

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oh probably it is. but there is also such a low supply of 16 core jobs, it might be better to do 4 wu's than waiting and sitting idle

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:12 PM

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I mean I have a 4c8t CPU, I've folded on a 4C4T CPU and averaged about 2-3 hours between WU's, 1h with all 8 threads working on the WU with my current CPU

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 12:12 PM

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and every wu has a timeout and expiration date for a reason, but thats days, not hours

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:13 PM

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But is 3 hours really that bad? Like it's not as if it's 24 hours

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 12:13 PM

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@odd barn unfortunately its not that simple. I've split my cpu into 2 times 4, but I had both a job that was taking me 3 hours and a job that was taking me 10 hours. started at the same time, etc. the one job was just bigger

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and no, 3 hours isn't that bad

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Ahhh

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I noticed that as well

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 12:13 PM

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3 days is bad

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3 hours is pretty decent

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:14 PM

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It looked like one job was being prioritized over the other, but I hadn't taken into consideration the larger and smaller jobs

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It still maintained the 3 hour window despite one job being larger than the other, that's what I've noticed

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 12:15 PM

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I think it really depends. My usual base credit for a cpu job is between 200-400, this long task has a base credit of 3600

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:16 PM

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Yeah. My current job has a base credit of 437 but it's still going to take 2 hours even though I've allocated all 8 threads to it

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Then again, it is pretty big

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 12:16 PM

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yeah

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I have my cpu split up to lower the temps (and cooler noise) during the day, I run them both during the night

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this one just started like 10 minutes before I woke up, so I'm stuck with it 😂

odd barn Apr 3, 2020, 12:17 PM

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LOL

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You keep your PC in your room I guess?

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 12:20 PM

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Livingroom, social distancing, can't go outside to work

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 12:22 PM

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I have a 4476 Base Credit on my 8700k (8 threads)

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looks like the time to completion is around 6-6.5 hours

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 12:35 PM

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Makes sense, since I'm running 4 threads at around 3,9

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I have an I7-8700 and my base credit is 420

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Making closer to 8k

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base credit depends on the task, not the processor

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ah shit

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still it's nice

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420 kappa

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 12:51 PM

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thats probably from the LTT server

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 12:51 PM

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estimating around 690k profit

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nice

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I don't believe so

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nvm it is lmao

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anyhow imma take a nap ping me if you want to annoy me kappa

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@rich depot ping

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PingSockRed

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not yet, waiting for you to actually sleep @rich depot

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 1:06 PM

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napkin math
Yesterday #teamLTT supplied 20% of the FAH compute power.

ivory parcel Apr 3, 2020, 1:14 PM

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@rich depot when splitting a cpu is it as simple as setting two folding slots for cpu set to 4. I have 4c 8t ?

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 1:15 PM

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You can enter any number from 1 to the number of threads your CPU supports.
If you have GPUs, F@H reserves one CPU per GPU to feed it data across the PCIE bus.
F@H has difficulty with large primes and their multiples number of CPUs.
7 is always large, 5 is sometimes large, and 3 is never large. Try to choose a number that is a multiple of 2 and/or 3.
2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 12, 16, 18, 24, 27, etc. are good numbers of CPUs to choose.
5. 10. 15, 20 etc may work most of the time. Other numbers will bite you```

ivory parcel Apr 3, 2020, 1:17 PM

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@smoky rose so in my case 2 4s fits within there guidelines?

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 1:17 PM

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do you have a GPU?

ivory parcel Apr 3, 2020, 1:18 PM

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I do that is also added GTX1660ti

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 1:18 PM

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then you need to leave atleast 1 thread free

ivory parcel Apr 3, 2020, 1:18 PM

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ah okey, so 3, 4 and gpu

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 1:18 PM

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so 1 6 thread, 2 3 threads, or a 4 and a 3 thread would work well

ivory parcel Apr 3, 2020, 1:19 PM

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on 4c 8t

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 1:21 PM

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It also depends on your cooling. My cooling can't keep up with full turbo (amd stock cooler) so I run at the max 8 threads, 1 for gpu and 3 empty. Keeps the boost higher and degradation lower

ivory parcel Apr 3, 2020, 1:22 PM

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Cooling im fine with if I have a window cracked open otherwise i get too hot :p

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 1:24 PM

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@ivory parcel you are always hot 😏

ivory parcel Apr 3, 2020, 1:25 PM

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@rich depot one of my pc's is built into a drawer and looks like a disaster waiting to happen

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rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 1:25 PM

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thats a pc?

ivory parcel Apr 3, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Sure is

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serene fossil Apr 3, 2020, 1:29 PM

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so i disabled the hideclient app on startup for fah, and now my app either doesnt open or is stuck connecting

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any dieas?

stark bough Apr 3, 2020, 1:30 PM

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@ivory parcel That black and orange box looks like you stole it from a megazord originally built to defend japan against Godzilla.

serene fossil Apr 3, 2020, 1:30 PM

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oh nvm it just randomly started working

ivory parcel Apr 3, 2020, 1:30 PM

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@stark bough got as many parts as possible off aliexpress I probably did steal it from a megazord

stark bough Apr 3, 2020, 1:31 PM

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If godzilla destroys tokyo again I'm crediting you as part of the problem

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 1:34 PM

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@serene fossil Check your log.

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serene fossil Apr 3, 2020, 1:34 PM

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its working now, cant connect to my online client tho

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 1:35 PM

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The FAH network is being hammered pretty hard. Sometimes you do not get assigned a WU for quite some time.

serene fossil Apr 3, 2020, 1:36 PM

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i have a WU for every slot, i just cant conect t o my web client, advanced control works fine

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smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 2:08 PM

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What browser do you use?

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I know there are (other) issues with chrome. If you are using chrome, try another one

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Edge seems to work well

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for some reason

chilly widget Apr 3, 2020, 2:16 PM

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That can't be true

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Edge never works well xD

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 2:17 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/shrug-what-huh-will-smith-it-is-what-it-is-gif-13198074

Tenor

silver wing Apr 3, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Well Edge has actually worked well for a long time now, still won't use it but yea it's not actually garbage

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 2:29 PM

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I just put a GTX 970 in one of my Folding PC's

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even with the CPU, 970, and 660 TI going full tilt the GPU temps are 55C with CPU at 65C

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 2:31 PM

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got another 11748

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failed to upload again

devout wing Apr 3, 2020, 2:32 PM

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ive always had issues with that exact project

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 2:32 PM

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it got through earlier after several attempts

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now it's acting up again

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140.163.4.231:80: A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond.

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I've lost like half the credit on waiting to upload

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 2:41 PM

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thats alot of 0's

sterile skiff Apr 3, 2020, 2:42 PM

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I will never access to competition right?

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solid thunder Apr 3, 2020, 2:46 PM

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...user overtake?

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 2:49 PM

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either accept server is down or something idk what do i do now

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https://apps.foldingathome.org/serverstats says warning: no collection servers connected hmm

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 3:01 PM

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@marble quartz have patients

stark bough Apr 3, 2020, 3:01 PM

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how many days left till everyone whos been folding full time qualifies for the giveaway?

hushed bobcat Apr 3, 2020, 3:02 PM

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April 10th is the last day right?

stark bough Apr 3, 2020, 3:02 PM

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gonna put in some downtime to do some maitenance on my computer.

silver wing Apr 3, 2020, 3:04 PM

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yea 10th

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 3:05 PM

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Space, shown in the server stats. That's currently available space, right?

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Some machines have dangerously low storage space available.

stark bough Apr 3, 2020, 3:39 PM

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how does distribution of projects work?
You have one sending work units, and a seperate machine recieving processed ones?

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cause it looks like oracle might be filling soon?

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Under "normal" circumstances
You connect to assign server that tells you where to pick up a work unit.
You connect to that work server, download the work unit, crunch the work unit, upload the work unit to the same server.

At the moment you might end up uploading the work to another CS.

noble hatch Apr 3, 2020, 3:49 PM

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good afternoon chaps. wazup

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 3:50 PM

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If a result is uploaded to another CS there will be a delay in point payout.

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One of the reasons why WS need a ton of storage space is that the results are saved on that server for "some time". This allows the team running the project can share it with others.

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TL;DR;
The FAH network was simply not designed to deal with this situation. They are currently talking to the major cloud service providers. We'll see where this ends.

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@noble hatch Same ol', same ol'. Crunching numbers. Doing science. Saving humanity.

noble hatch Apr 3, 2020, 3:58 PM

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@noble hatch Same ol', same ol'. Crunching numbers. Doing science. Saving humanity.
@smoky rose 🤣 good luck whit that, save humanity.

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we can try tho..

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 3:59 PM

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I do like a challenge.

noble hatch Apr 3, 2020, 3:59 PM

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not little one ether..

fierce steppe Apr 3, 2020, 4:00 PM

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Not sure why I haven't received credit for the past 6 updates 🤔

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noble hatch Apr 3, 2020, 4:00 PM

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did you manage to spinn up some FAH servers yesteday?

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@fierce steppe ceause you havet uploaded the WUs?

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 4:01 PM

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@fierce steppe The answer to your question is in your log.

fierce steppe Apr 3, 2020, 4:01 PM

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I've been folding the whole time and I have been uploading work units properly

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 4:01 PM

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@noble hatch No, still waiting for the people who pay the bills to agree to donate resources.

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There are delays in rewarding points.
If you uploaded to a CS on another server, even longer delay to rewarding points.

noble hatch Apr 3, 2020, 4:02 PM

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then you havent configure the identety correctly?

fierce steppe Apr 3, 2020, 4:03 PM

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The log shows them going to the work server
yes, I haven't changed anything and its been running 24/7 for the last few weeks
https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=812397

EXTREME Overclocking

Spotty User Summary - Folding@Home Stats

F@H stats user summary for Spotty. Help Folding at Home fight Coronavirus, further medical research, and prevent diseases with distributed computing!

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🤷

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 4:05 PM

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There are still delays every now and then.

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Rewarding points is not on top of their list of priorities.

fierce steppe Apr 3, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Hmm looks like everone is missing 9pm, 6am, and 9am credit

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Should get 500-600k next update (that actually updates)

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 4:09 PM

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People who worked with X, Y and Z have had their job description changed to "KEEP THE SERVERS RUNNING!"

noble hatch Apr 3, 2020, 4:11 PM

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i having trouble getting WUs at all

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 4:11 PM

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I'm idle at the moment.

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Have been trying to get a new GPU WU for 1h 20m.

noble hatch Apr 3, 2020, 4:12 PM

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if you pause, then fold, multiple times, u making the klient look for WUs

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have a 24core cpu that i have to do that regurly to keep it busy

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 4:13 PM

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I know

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That's what I do. Not too often though as that only adds to the friendly fire ddos.

fierce steppe Apr 3, 2020, 4:14 PM

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Yeah you don't want to do that too much

noble hatch Apr 3, 2020, 4:14 PM

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yeah

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in the meantime maybe switch to rosetta

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dono..

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just to keep the servers toasty

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 4:16 PM

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Nah, idle = ambient temperature drops = good for future folding. 🙂

noble hatch Apr 3, 2020, 4:17 PM

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AC is turning, im not paying powerbil

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 4:17 PM

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I'm in Scandinavia. Yesterday it snowed.

noble hatch Apr 3, 2020, 4:17 PM

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me to

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where u at?

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Sweden

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Värmland

noble hatch Apr 3, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Østfold/Viken ved Svinesund

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😉

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 4:19 PM

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Hi neighbour. 🙂

noble hatch Apr 3, 2020, 4:19 PM

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👋

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 4:20 PM

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So, are you moving or should I? We need to keep distance.

noble hatch Apr 3, 2020, 4:20 PM

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hahah
move the border 2m please..

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al the way to kiruna

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 4:22 PM

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I moved here, from Stockholm, last year. Turns out it was a good call as the epidemic is mostly centered there.

queen pivot Apr 3, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Am I far enough from you guys, I'm @ Helsinki?

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and yes, folding helps with heating 🙂

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oh, just checked the map and realized things

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Feels kinda safe.

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This situation makes me want to move to some remote area of Finnmark.

fierce steppe Apr 3, 2020, 4:38 PM

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As of 2 April, 18 countries had not reported a Covid-19 case, according to a BBC tally using data from Johns Hopkins University.

The 18 countries without Covid-19

Comoros; Kiribati; Lesotho; Marshall Islands; Micronesia; Nauru; North Korea; Palau; Samoa; Sao Tome and Principe; Solomon Islands; South Sudan; Tajikistan; Tonga; Turkmenistan; Tuvalu; Vanuatu, Yemen

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Heh, well. They are either hard to get to, are unsafe or do not provide reliable data.

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 4:39 PM

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you forgot north sentinel

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guaranteed they don't have it

queen pivot Apr 3, 2020, 4:39 PM

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@smoky rose beatiful places there, we road tripped those ares @ 2016

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 4:40 PM

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I did a job there once. 72 hours.

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 4:43 PM

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a job on north sentinel?

rich depot Apr 3, 2020, 4:45 PM

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they killed a man. don't ask questions you don't want to know the answer to

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 4:45 PM

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@storm talon Finnmark

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@rich depot Exactly, receiving answer some questions can be dangerous. 🙂

stark bough Apr 3, 2020, 4:47 PM

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waht about ascention island keke

storm talon Apr 3, 2020, 4:49 PM

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ah

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 5:03 PM

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finally folding!!!!!

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if only I could get my more powerful pc working on this

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using all two cores at their puny 2.5 GHz....
but still working on it!!!

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eeesh... .2%

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hmm.. Is there a mobile FAH? and will there be?
I've got... a few phones at my disposal I could do that with

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.3%

serene fossil Apr 3, 2020, 5:15 PM

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not for covid i dont think but boinc is mobile

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anyone know why my web client keeps timing out?

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 5:17 PM

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boinc... alright

chilly widget Apr 3, 2020, 5:17 PM

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I honestly don't think any mobile CPU is beneficial for rendering workloads, at least not when you compare it with it's power draw 😛

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I was thinking of throwing FAH onto my Raspberry Pi for the lolz, but realistically that's not gonna get anything useful done for how much power it draws

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 5:18 PM

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well, I've got 2 phones that have no real use since I rarely leave the house in the first place, so I think it might help a little

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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oh yeah, my pi died for some reason, won't power on, might need to reload the os on the microSD

chilly widget Apr 3, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Speaking of folding btw, day 3 and I'm on the rise!

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jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 5:20 PM

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awesome!

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By the way, anybody who saw me talking about wondering if you can fold on Vista... you can't

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well, I couldn't

chilly widget Apr 3, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Why the fuck would you be using Vista? o.o

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 5:21 PM

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beeeecause it's a 10 year old computer...

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0//0

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and I couldn't even get into XP

chilly widget Apr 3, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Win10 is more performant as Vista afaik. And Vista is gonna be deprecated next

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Like, if you have old hardware running on Vista, chances are it will actually run smoother on Win10

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(Once you disable all the telemetry crap, that is)

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 5:23 PM

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iiiif I can get windows 10 on it, or even 7

chilly widget Apr 3, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Probably 😛

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Maybe try running the upgrade tool, it might even convert your key to a new one, not sure about that though, never tried it on Vista

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Or get yourself a new key, or a cough "key" 😛

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 5:25 PM

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buttttt... I've had no luck working on them so far
I am however tempted to put my radeon460 into the Vista maching

I have tried running the upgrade tool, it won't allow me to fully run it because i have to get the clock synced, but to sync the clock propperly, I have to have the clock synced!

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It'll start to run it and fail to connect to the windows servers.... on a gigabit ethernet connection

chilly widget Apr 3, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Lol, sounds great xD

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You have gigabit internet on a Vista machine?

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 5:26 PM

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well... the connection is gigabit, I don't know about the card

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but websites don't load right because... Vista

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and I did however get folding onto a disc and put it onto the machine, I just... couldn't start folding

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because... the browser...

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again, browsers on Vista...

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everything is brokennnn

devout wing Apr 3, 2020, 5:28 PM

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but you dont need to browser to fodl

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 5:29 PM

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yyyes?
to start it I think

devout wing Apr 3, 2020, 5:29 PM

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no

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they have an advanced control option

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 5:29 PM

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I'm listening

devout wing Apr 3, 2020, 5:29 PM

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in the task bar right click it then cliock advanced control

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it should open a program and you can do everything from there

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 5:30 PM

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just... so we're clear.. this is on Windows Vista too?

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I was barely able to open F@H

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I'm at a whole .86%!

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it's estimated to take three days for this unit to finish..

serene fossil Apr 3, 2020, 5:40 PM

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my client is stuck on connecting now

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 5:41 PM

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oh noo

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1%!

serene fossil Apr 3, 2020, 5:41 PM

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?

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 5:42 PM

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my folding

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oooh, apparently it is foldinggg

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well, can't open advanced controls, but it says folding is active

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who knew it would be so painful to see that thing over there working it's butt off with the fans starting to spin up

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 5:49 PM

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So moving my Rad to the front

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serene fossil Apr 3, 2020, 5:49 PM

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250w

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damn

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 5:49 PM

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It's now quiet for some reason

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 5:51 PM

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what program is that?

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 5:52 PM

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HWInfo64

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 5:56 PM

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alright, thanks

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well, the vista tower is trying to connect, so it's trying to run it, don't know if has succeeded yet

serene fossil Apr 3, 2020, 6:02 PM

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what gpu are u running? this is a my 2070 on air

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mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:04 PM

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2080 Ti on Air too

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serene fossil Apr 3, 2020, 6:05 PM

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thats a hot card

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Zotac RTX 2080 Ti Amp Extreme

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Amp Extreme cards always seem to run hot, but they boost like crazy and nomnom the amperage

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Just stuck a dual p5000 folding rig in my garage for that sweet sweet cold air

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:07 PM

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I can't even find my card..

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 6:07 PM

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@jade spade The WHAT tower?

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:08 PM

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I have three um... desktops
two are currently on my carpet
I have Windows 10
I have Windows XP
and...
I have Windows Vista

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:09 PM

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so like not to be a debbie downer

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:09 PM

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:3

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:09 PM

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but if you want stuff to run faster the libraries for Windows 10 genuinely run faster

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:10 PM

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I didn't cause this

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Let me get my priest rolodex. You need an exorcist.

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:10 PM

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it's a 10 year old computer

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:10 PM

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while donating all of your personal data to Microsoft

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:10 PM

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fine, you're right

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install centos

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:10 PM

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(10 years aprox)

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:10 PM

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problem sovled

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:10 PM

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centos good

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 6:10 PM

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I read somewhere that you can expect 10-20% higher folding performance in linux. So...replace Vista with Debian?

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:10 PM

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arch good

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:10 PM

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linux works on multiple decade hardware

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:10 PM

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I don't know how to do thattttt

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:10 PM

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most flavors

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learn

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you have a brain

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:11 PM

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so, I'm assuming

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:11 PM

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push button, get ubuntu bacon

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:11 PM

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^

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 6:11 PM

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There is a ubuntu guide on the LTT forum.

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:11 PM

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I mean it really is as easy as installing windows

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:11 PM

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ah, alright

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:11 PM

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just burn it to a usb thumb drive

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:11 PM

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ubuntu has a request to provide system info but you can actually decline

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:11 PM

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the bearded dragon linux wizards have thought of you

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do not fear

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:11 PM

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undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Im measuring time in beard growth right now

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:12 PM

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I will download... something on these computers

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:12 PM

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that is not 20 years old

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:12 PM

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no

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that's my spin 1 laptop I'm on rn XD

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:12 PM

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centos/ubuntu are amaze

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well ubuntu is amaze for ease of use

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centos is amaze for actually working and not freezing

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:12 PM

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guess I'll be running Ubuntu

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Undervolt on linux is a pain in the ass tho

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:12 PM

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to fold

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 6:12 PM

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I'll stick with windows thx

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:13 PM

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you undervolt from the bios

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the OS doesn't care

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Gpu undervolt

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:13 PM

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You can stick with your windows.... until the moment that you run Vista and literally nothing is supported

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but, the one thing I like about Vista... the games it has

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the simple, old games

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 6:13 PM

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cpu undervolt doesn't really bring a game changing effect

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:13 PM

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But linux doesn't require modifications to the GPU drivers to enable accelerated compute

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:14 PM

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correct

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jogerj just wants to OC stuff

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:14 PM

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oh

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:14 PM

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and push it a little further

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:14 PM

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should this be moved to #tech-chat-1 or #tech-chat-2 ?

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:14 PM

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and it is possible

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 6:14 PM

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more like save power

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:14 PM

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but he's righ. it's not fun

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lol you won't save enough power doing that

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 6:14 PM

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my gpu runs at least 50W less

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:14 PM

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it's used to get better clocks

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you'll save maybe $2 a year

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:15 PM

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just turn off your RGB

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instant undervolt

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:15 PM

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now that would work better

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 6:15 PM

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actually more of €2 a month

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at minimum

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:15 PM

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or turn off your monitor while it's folding

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 6:15 PM

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well yes, but I do work while folding

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:15 PM

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nah, most of the time your GPU is in an idle state and barely draws any power to begin with

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 6:16 PM

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so my GPU is mostly idle when I'm working

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:16 PM

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they run hot to keep power draw low

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:16 PM

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would people hate me if I put three towers on one desk?

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Nope

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epeen

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:16 PM

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some people stack their computers

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:16 PM

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pfffft

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:16 PM

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it's a cool thing

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 6:16 PM

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then I turn off monitor for overnight folding, obviously

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 6:16 PM

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@jade spade Do you have a GPU in the vista machine?

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 6:17 PM

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I wouldn't stack towers if it has top fan

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depends on case

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Normally I find that simply upgrading the cooling system will save vastly more power than undervolting by itself

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Jol, it has.... no card but it has some sort of graphics

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I can put a card in it though

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as long as I don't overload the PSU

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:17 PM

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yeah they do

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 6:17 PM

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well do both, get proper cooling and undervolt

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no harm in either

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:18 PM

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even undervolting them in folding goes to 80 C Mark or Staggered

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:18 PM

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or just burn coal locally

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:18 PM

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I dunno what to say of your name from AMD and here :p

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 6:18 PM

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I saved 50-70W plus runs 10C cooler

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:18 PM

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You can call me sir shitsinpants

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I dont care

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Acetek pump mounts are annoying to mount a 120 to the front from rear

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though the pump thermal paste was dried up

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looks like I did a good application though the 1st time

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:19 PM

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I chose to burn as much power as possible

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Thanks to this Amp Extreme, it is warming up my glass

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:19 PM

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📎 20200403_121925.jpg

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:19 PM

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I just fold when needed and game

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plus schoolwork

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 6:20 PM

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@jade spade The thread https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1091171-howto-linux-folding-rig/

Linus Tech Tips

Howto Linux Folding Rig

Why Linux: It will run well on older hardware that can be re purposed for a dedicated folding machine. You can disable automatic updates. It will perform 5-10% better than Windows due to Driver and OpenMM Core 21 issues in Windows. I have found it to be more stable than Window...

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:20 PM

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rgb vomit engage

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:20 PM

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if Only Ubuntu liked a 8300 GS

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:20 PM

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thanks @smoky rose

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Did a color scheme but new placement

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undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:21 PM

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@mild kiln it's not ubuntu, it's nvidia

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🙂

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:21 PM

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true

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NVIDIA likes Windows over Linux

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:21 PM

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not so much that, the drivers don't support those cards

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:21 PM

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oof

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:22 PM

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I get more support for linux from nvidia than any other manufacturer

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why do you think hotplugging 20 GPUs works now 🙂

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:22 PM

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cause Linus wants to

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:22 PM

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by hotplugging I mean PCIe hotplugs

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 6:22 PM

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jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:22 PM

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goodlord

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Linus is the only guy that will play Crisis 3 on a Quadro

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:22 PM

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that's not true

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Ive done it... just as POC that I can run it on a x4 link

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lol

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:23 PM

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plenty of IT guys do what LInus does when bosses aren't looking

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have you ever been in a datecenter before?

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:23 PM

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no

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:23 PM

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you know they're doing weird stuff every so often

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work order

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it staff play time

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:23 PM

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I do weird shit all the time

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:23 PM

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ah

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of course

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The only thing I kept in this PC that was from my old Ryzen PC is the RAM

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also I need to find the power per $ this is doing per run

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:24 PM

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THis last build has a 3900x, 2080 ti, 3 1TB WD SN750s and 64jigs of rams

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:25 PM

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64 GB of RAM. I had always thought to get 32 GB back in the Ryzen Days

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:25 PM

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mine is same except 1080 ti ftw

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and I use a SAN for storage

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:25 PM

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noice

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Ain't SanDisk just budget Western Digital now?

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Nah

fringe elk Apr 3, 2020, 6:26 PM

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probs not

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the drivers and firmware what make WD amaze

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:26 PM

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SanDisk is the leader in solid state, behind toshiba

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samsung makes good stuff but the controllers are little tiny nuclear reactors

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:27 PM

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I have a 256 gb microSD card in my laptop, those things are freaking crazy

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:27 PM

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the 983 is designed to throttle at 93C

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:27 PM

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But didn't WD like buy them?

jade spade Apr 3, 2020, 6:27 PM

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(to me 1GB is still a lot of space)

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:28 PM

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WD bought SanDisk so they had solid state tech

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 6:28 PM

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I have a kingston a1000 and it's pretty decent

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:28 PM

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ah

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Kingston makes great stuff, I work with them all the time

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where do you think I got 64 gigs of ram for free lol

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:28 PM

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I still wonder how long I should fold cause this GPU is a power hungry card

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 6:28 PM

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also pretty affordable, competes with sandisk

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:28 PM

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mainly for the power bill

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 6:29 PM

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undervolt it

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:29 PM

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I did

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Just set the card to run at like 60% power target

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Still consumes 280 watts :p

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undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:29 PM

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you're likely losing performance

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burning more power than is required to do the same job

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 6:30 PM

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what card is that again

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:30 PM

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remember

smoky rose Apr 3, 2020, 6:30 PM

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C'mon, assign me a WU. Do I need to sacrifice chickens or what?!?!??

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:30 PM

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2080Ti :p

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:30 PM

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heat = resistance = more power = more heat

fierce steppe Apr 3, 2020, 6:30 PM

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I'll give you my WU for some KFC popcorn chicken

marble quartz Apr 3, 2020, 6:30 PM

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my vega 56 runs 150-160w ish

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nearly half of that

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lol

fierce steppe Apr 3, 2020, 6:31 PM

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power limiting Nvidia cards works quite well

undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:31 PM

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^

mild kiln Apr 3, 2020, 6:31 PM

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-200 Watts

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undone dust Apr 3, 2020, 6:31 PM

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I'd set to 60% and take the small performance hit over burning power to produce heat