folding-and-boinc

[hasty tendon]

So its gotta be specific work for my Super card? Or is there a lack of work?

[smoky rose]

There are three reasons for that error message.

1. The server is busy, doesn't respond.
2. There is something wrong with your config.
3. There are no WU to hand out.

It's usually 1 or 3.

I have been waiting for a GPU WU a couple of hours now.

[hasty tendon]

Oh holy cow, uhhh, I havent seen this before on this rig. Holding 4.23 ghz steady though

Okay, that makes more sense. As long as my cpu cam do most of the grunt, it's more powerful then the 2070 anyways lol

[smoky rose]

There are CPU WU and GPU WU. The person running the specific project decides how it is run by us folders.

[hasty tendon]

Okay! I figured because of different architecture they wouldn't be able to use one another

[smoky rose]

Regarding SARS-CoV-2 most CPU jobs are drug simulations.

[storm talon]

your cpu is not more powerful than your gpu

unless you have some kind of quantum computer

[rich depot]

havent seen this before? @hasty tendon
run prime95.

[hasty tendon]

I figured in raw compute powers 8 core 16 thread with 64gb of ram

Yeah, I did, and it didnt hit 150

[storm talon]

not even close m8

[hasty tendon]

So, wait, a "base model" 2070 super (MSI ventus OC) is more powerful then a R7 3800x?

[storm talon]

yes

for folding absolutely

[hasty tendon]

Out of curiosity, how? I'm not doubting, just trying to learn

[gusty path]

Probably similar reason as to why we do not run our games off CPU compute power

[storm talon]

that's what gpu's were designed for originally, crunching HUGE data sets in parallel

[smoky rose]

2560 cuda cores

8 GB DDR6 memory

[gusty path]

Also day 4 stats for me is NICE, spot 69 XD

[hasty tendon]

Nice

[rich depot]

depends on the workload but yeah larry is right. in terms of raw numbers calculated your gpu is unbeatable

if those calculations depend on another too much and have to be calculated more in sequence your cpu would be faster...

folding is sufficiently parallel that your gpu will run circles around any cpu

[hasty tendon]

Like how intel used to be much better at single core performance? Just trying to wrap my head around it, cuz it sounds like the GPU is better for single core performance and cpu is better for multicore?

[storm talon]

your gpu has 2560 cores

your cpu has 6

[hasty tendon]

I genuinely didnt know a out this

OHHHHH

Shit! I thought those were like, just 3d rendering cores!

[rich depot]

well, kind of

they are very specialized

[storm talon]

yea they are fairy dust

[smoky rose]

GPUs are great for parallel computing like folding, coin mining, hashcracking.

[hasty tendon]

So if my GPU were to get a work load from this it would nuke my cpu?

I mean, like, not physically lol

[smoky rose]

It will outperform it, yes.

[hasty tendon]

Dang, that's wild

I should probably give it better cooling 😂 I've been holding off on getting a distroplate for this thing because it's about $1000 for everything I need to open loop this thing

So, is the stock cooler on my card okay for fah? I mean, I'm surprised how hard my cpu is getting hit, but now I'm concerned for my card

[rocky otter]

Check the temperature of your card, if it isn't too hot you're probably fine

[smoky rose]

If you have not heard the fans going at full tilt you will...as soon as you catch a GPU WU.

[rich depot]

hope I will get some wu's, just put everything on full for the night 🙂

[hasty tendon]

Yeah, I wish I had gotten an Gaming X trio in place of my Ventus OC. It doesn't have ZeroFrozr so the fans are always spinning on it

[cold oak]

BOINC

[storm talon]

i don't really care too much as to which and which brand stuff is

as long as it satisfies the smoke test i'm good

[hasty tendon]

I really want a 2080ti but this Ventus came along at $350 and I couldn't pass it up

Its amusing to hear the air working around the system on my AIO. Cant wait to do open loop

[gusty path]

Not sure I would pay 1400 for a 2080 ti again.

[hasty tendon]

Theres used ones around me for sub 800

[rich depot]

fkn hell im taking too long to type xD

[gusty path]

10fastfingers

train up that wpm

[rich depot]

its more a matter of actually coming up with sentences after being engaged in this stuff all day already

[hasty tendon]

I'm typing on my phone lol

Cuz I'm getting ready to leave I figured I'd set this fah stuff up

[gusty path]

What you need then my friend is some whisky to loosen them mind muscles up some, let the bullshit flow freely.

[hasty tendon]

Man, it's all about the green

[gusty path]

Absinthe?

[hasty tendon]

Ganja lol

[gusty path]

not legal in this part of the world.

[rich depot]

id do that but im not familiar with the moderation (not as written, but acted out) on this server yet

[hasty tendon]

😳

[gusty path]

My laptop is crunching away in the kitchen, moved it out there so I could leave it running xD

[rich depot]

[timber grove]

you can put a +500 on the mem@hasty tendon

[rich depot]

with all this talking i didnt notice some folding slots not having work units

back to micromanaging

[gusty path]

my GPU been sitting empty

but still too early to reset it

CPU got 4 WU's tho

[rich depot]

thats 2/3 machines

i can keep em mostly occupied

[gusty path]

Nice

[hasty tendon]

Holy cow that's a lot of 1080s

[rich depot]

@rich depot don't ddoss the servers by keep trying to get a wu. The software manages itself

[dusty hemlock]

Damn, thought I had alot at 4 2080s

[hasty tendon]

What kind of psu in those?

[gusty path]

The gentleman's way is once an hour reset.

[rich depot]

@rich depot for the last 7-8h i didnt do barely anything on em

they kept themselves fed. only issue i had earlier were 4 of em suddenly getting an error with their WU at once and dropping em and so on... or a chrash cos windows i guess

[hasty tendon]

Is 200k point a day good? Lol. Compared to most of you guys, prolly not, but this pc was put together around the $1500 mark

[gusty path]

Ayren, out of curiosity tho, why do you have that many 1080 TI's?

[rich depot]

You said you were micromanaging, I assumed you were actually doing that

@hasty tendon depends on what you use

[gusty path]

Your GPU can do 200k points in 2 or 3 WU's

[hasty tendon]

😳

[rich depot]

Thats after the qrb though

[hasty tendon]

Damn, just my cpu is doing 200k, if I can get a load for gpu that would be lit

Btw, fritz, 7504 is okay for the mem clock?

[gusty path]

You need to do 10 WU's before the bonus kicks in from the passkey

[hasty tendon]

Bonus?

[gusty path]

You got a passkey yah?

[hasty tendon]

Yeah, I did

[devout wing]

when you use a passkey you get bonus points

[gusty path]

from what I gather, correct me if I am wrong here guys, but without it you barely get any points

[timber grove]

that good for the mem clock on air

[gusty path]

and you need to complete 10 WU's before that bonus kicks in

[hasty tendon]

So like, bonus points? Man, this is all weird

[devout wing]

yup

its there way of incentivizing people to be secure about their folding

[hasty tendon]

Damn I'm hungry, ima run to Dairy Queen. Doing all this thinking is tough. Learning new stuff lol

[gusty path]

Base is what I reckon is what you get if you had no bonus, and estimated credit is with bonus

[devout wing]

you get more points if you finsih the WU faster @gusty path i beleive

you get the base as long as its finished, but if you finsih faster you get more

[gusty path]

The estimated time for completion is in days tho

you got days to complete these

[devout wing]

estimated credit would then be the amount you get if your pc finished the wu in the esitmate

[mild kiln]

eh

finally I got a GPU workload

[devout wing]

ive got 2 running now @mild kiln what skin is that for the ui?

[mild kiln]

Wii-Black

[rich depot]

from the foldingathome.org website:
final_points = base_points * max(1, sqrt( k * deadline_length / elapsed_time))

[devout wing]

cool, thanks

right so the faster you finish the more points (wish it was like that in bed lol)

[smoky rose]

Someone just added 100 000 OPENMM_22 jobs

Get your GPUs in order. 🙂

[mild kiln]

ye

[devout wing]

where did you see that at?

[mild kiln]

except GT 730s and Vega 3 Mobiles

[rich depot]

neato

[smoky rose]

I'm keeping tabs on the server stats page.

[devout wing]

ahh ok

my 480 seems to be doing pretty well

[mild kiln]

GTX or RX?

[smoky rose]

OPENMM_21 and _22 are GPU jobs.
GRO_A7 are CPU jobs.

[devout wing]

rx

[mild kiln]

ah

[hasty tendon]

I think my brother has 2 power color rx 480s

[devout wing]

I got them when they came out for running in dual channel, 400 bucks for 2 is hard to beat

[hasty tendon]

I keep trying to convince him to cone to the green side

[mild kiln]

[hasty tendon]

Noiiiiice

[mild kiln]

All COVID

13851 - These are simulations of NSP9 from SARS-CoV-1 and SARS-CoV-2, which may participate in viral replication by acting as a ssRNA-binding protein. Its funciton is poorly understood in both viruses.
16404 - This project is simulating the Nucleoprotein RNA-binding domain of SARS-CoV-2 (alternative starting configuration). More details incoming!

[devout wing]

the 3 WUs im working on now are covid as well, so thats nice

[rich depot]

@hasty tendon nah nvidia needs the competition. theyve been getting complacent. Let him be on team red

[mild kiln]

I wish I had powerful GPUs laying around

[devout wing]

mine arent laying around lol, they are in my gaming rig

just do it on the side when im not gaming

[hasty tendon]

Yall want anything?

[mild kiln]

lol. Dairy Queen

[hasty tendon]

I mean, theres a chick fil a down the road but I wanted chicken strips

Well, strips and gravy from dq

[smoky rose]

Get me a big mac and I'll love you 'til end of time.

[hasty tendon]

I did just pass a maccas

[smoky rose]

U-turn, now!

[storm talon]

29mph with camera in one hand and latte in the other

seems legit

😉

[hasty tendon]

Weird looking latte lol

[storm talon]

is a cigrit

[hasty tendon]

Yis. (Re)developed a habit when I became a trucker last year

[smoky rose]

Watch out for popo. I hear they are looking for people who steer with their knees.

[hasty tendon]

Bold of you to assume I use my knees 🤗

But, nah, in all seriousness my car has auto lane keep, so I can actually be hands free, just controlling the throttle

[smoky rose]

This is the first phase. They gain our trust.

[hasty tendon]

Ruby hasn't crashed yet, so I trust her

[gusty path]

Eeeey I just passed 10m

[hasty tendon]

Grats!

[gusty path]

Folding is probably the best of fun i've had this year ngl

[hasty tendon]

It's a free full system stress test, while helping scientists!

[rich depot]

gotta love the joy of chasing higher numbers

[gusty path]

Sleeping in this room has not been as nice tho, pretty warm xD

[hasty tendon]

cookie clicker intensifies

[smoky rose]

https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=33575

With a medium configuration, the consumption of the 7700k cpu is kept at 90% -100%, causing overheating and BlueScreenOfDead errors.

Srsly, how can you not start with "Hmm, maybe my cooling sucks?" and go straight to "The software sucks!".

[gusty path]

"it's not me it's you!"

[hasty tendon]

😂

[rich depot]

The software could use some work; it works but it could work a whole lot better imo

that said that guy is full of shit

[smoky rose]

Wow. Someone is throwing amazon instances on this.

https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=928671

[rich depot]

@smoky rose amazon. amazon is throwing their nodes at it

[smoky rose]

They have mentioned updates to the client in several forum posts. Then SARS-CoV-2 hit and they decided not to launch it in the middle of all this.

[hasty tendon]

My roommate works for amazon

[gusty path]

My condolences for your rm

I hear amazon is a really shitty employer

[hasty tendon]

Hes a dock manager. Makes good money

[mild kiln]

I love this quote @smoky rose

Love watching amateurs get their crappy OC nuked by AVX, not gonna lie!

Funny and didn't know CPU protein folding was AVX

[rich depot]

id assume its highly dependent on which branch of amazon you work in. Warehouse workers? GF

assuming he knows what AVX is and that it can lead to higher than normal thermal usage

[smoky rose]

@mild kiln https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Folding@home_cores#GROMACS

There we go, GPU WU running.

[gusty path]

nice

[mild kiln]

I see

and nice

[rich depot]

one of the new ones? @smoky rose

[smoky rose]

11779

[rich depot]

would like to know the base reward on em

[smoky rose]

Not new.

[rich depot]

aww

[smoky rose]

You can look that up here
https://apps.foldingathome.org/psummary

[rich depot]

ty

was getting lotsa 14541s these last couple of hours.

WU is shite and gives 12-20% less reward for me

[smoky rose]

Didn't take long to run, right?

And that's the fan going at full tilt. Finally some heat in here.

[rich depot]

its what id call a medium sized GPU WU
about 2:15h per WU for me

for me its usually either 1-1.5h or 2-2.5h, 3+h or once i got an 80k base reward one that took me 5 or 6h

[storm talon]

boys

what'r ya doin

it's Taco Tuesday get to makein tacos

[smoky rose]

DDOSing F@H servers

In Sweden we have some kind of taco fridays. Don't ask.

[rich depot]

BOMBARD THEM WITH SCIENCE UNTIL THEIR MODEM CATCHES FIRE

[tribal bridge]

I just got started with the folding, it says my gpu isn't doing anything. Any ideas on how to get it started?

[smoky rose]

First rule of getting folding support: Post your log.

But first things first. Did you register a passkey?

[tribal bridge]

Yes

[smoky rose]

Good.

Windows?

[tribal bridge]

and what is a log?

[storm talon]

Welcome to the LTT community folding support hotline. You are number [8491] in queue. hold music

[tribal bridge]

yes

[smoky rose]

In system tray (lower right corner with the clock), find the F@H icon, right click it and select Advanced Control.

This will open a control panel thingie.

[tribal bridge]

its open

[smoky rose]

First tab. Do you have a folding slot for your GPU active?

[hasty tendon]

Why is my web control panel now just constantly refreshing?

[smoky rose]

Chrome?

[hasty tendon]

Yeah

[smoky rose]

Open dev panel (F12) and refresh. If that doesn't work, clear cache.

[hasty tendon]

Oh, hey! I got a gpu wu

[tribal bridge]

I see where it give me id 00 and 01, 00 is cpu. 01 is gpu

[smoky rose]

Ok.

Third tab is your log.

[tribal bridge]

01 says ready while 00 is running

[storm talon]

lol dxg get ready to open a window

[tribal bridge]

i see where it says log

[smoky rose]

Do you have a lot of "No WU bla bla bla for this configuration"?

[tribal bridge]

Where would that show up?

[hasty tendon]

:)

[smoky rose]

In the log.

[tribal bridge]

i see this.

WARNING:WU01:FS01:Failed to get assignment from

[smoky rose]

To make it easy, copy the whole log, go to https://pastebin.com/, paste it and submit, then give us the link.

[tribal bridge]

https://pastebin.com/vJCe6cWd

and use it was saying no WU after i looked a little bit

[smoky rose]

Key here is: "No WUs available for this configuration"
There are three reasons you get that error.

1. The server is swamped with requests and don't have time to talk to you.
2. U have a really weird config and no WU match it.
3. There are no WU available to assign you.

1 and 3 is common. 2 is unlikely but not impossible.

[storm talon]

spinning up dual 32core xeon r610 tonight

[smoky rose]

It took me a couple of hours to get a GPU WU now.

[storm talon]

8 more vm!

[smoky rose]

👍

[tribal bridge]

So just wait a bit and see i get one for the gpu. Can do

[storm talon]

just realize when i went to get some laundry i got one just sitting there

[rich depot]

@smoky rose small note:
When i was trying to run unsupported GPUs it assigned me to a nonexisting work server (192.168.1.2 iirc) to keep me from impairing the actual work servers. I found out later that thats what the assignment servers do when the GPU is not supported

[timber grove]

so is that two 16 core cpus or two 32 core cpus @storm talon

[smoky rose]

Yeah, but @tribal bridge is sporting a GeForce GTX 960M. Nothing weird about it.

Well, shouldn't be. 🙂

[rich depot]

[storm talon]

2x32 core

currently stripping ram out of my parts machine

[timber grove]

whats the model number for the cpu

[smoky rose]

That's right, you show them amazon people who is running this show.

[storm talon]

Idk haven't powered it on yet. I'm hoping this isn't the 12 core CPU machine

an i'm not taking the heat sink off lol, last time I did that to an old 610 the whole socket came up with it

[silver wing]

lol rip

[timber grove]

task manager your way to it

[storm talon]

it's going to be running debian

but i will find out after supper

[timber grove]

ok

[silver wing]

rotate usually is best, rather than lifting to pull off

[storm talon]

windows is for children and old people

yea idk lead, it was running 24/7 for about 9 years

[smoky rose]

I like Windows for games and Linux for work.

[storm talon]

yea fair. gaming is ok on windows

[smoky rose]

I tried the puritan way once. It gave me white hair.

Nopes.

[storm talon]

ahahaha

playon linux supports most games

[smoky rose]

This was 15 years ago.

[storm talon]

it supports anno 😉

[smoky rose]

Anno?

[storm talon]

that game Linus keeps talking about in videos

[smoky rose]

Ah

We are gaining on Curecoin. Less than a year now.

[tribal bridge]

what counts as idle for folding? I set it to that and have every app closed, and it say's its paused at the moment.

[hushed bobcat]

Basically if your screensaver would have come on

thats idle

[tribal bridge]

Do I need to change power and sleep settings? (On a laptop)

[hushed bobcat]

I'm not sure if F@H will prevent sleep

can your laptop handle the temps?

[tribal bridge]

I have it on med

[hushed bobcat]

that will still use all of your GPU (If you have one) and like 90% of your CPU

the big killer for laptops seems to be Turbo boost, most ppl on here need to disable it to fold without overheating

i would suggest you start folding now and watch the temps

[tribal bridge]

I don't think mine has turbo.

[smoky rose]

When I run GPU jobs my CPU thermal throttle. 🙂

[tribal bridge]

Best way to watch temps?

[smoky rose]

Earlier today.

[hushed bobcat]

hwinfo64 is popular

if you have a dedicated gfx card I like MSI afterburner

[rich depot]

@smoky rose lap top go liquid metal

[sterile skiff]

Earlier today.
@smoky rose mi Q6600 it's faster :p

[smoky rose]

Yeah, something need to be done about this. I've started developing an idea for some kind of laptop stand, with a sleeve for the exhaust, a couple of blowie to pull the air out.

That and liquid metal.

[rich depot]

im thinking of putting my severs into a cluster then start fording with it what are your thoughts
2x dell poweredge 1950
1x dell poweredge R710
1x dell poweredge 2950

the total cost would be about $60/mo

[hushed bobcat]

It will all help @rich depot but you're not going to get much out of those 5000 series xeons

[floral wave]

next attempt 4 hours 44 minutes

oof, guess I didn't get WU's at work today

[hushed bobcat]

you're only going to get about 2000-2500 PPD per thread on those old xeons

the R710 should be quite a bit better

@floral wave if the next attempt is that long pause and resume folding

that will reset the timer

[smoky rose]

@floral wave As long as you don't abuse it. Pause. Fold. This resets the timer.

[floral wave]

I mean I paused now, but I was at work before, that's why it got that long lol

[rich depot]

if i only run the R710 thats about $20/mo

[smoky rose]

Ah, well then, carry on. Don't mind us. Nothing to see here.

[hushed bobcat]

ohh the 710 has the 5600 series xeons

i thought it had E5's

[rich depot]

Up to 2 x Intel® Xeon® 5500 and 5600 series processors.

[hushed bobcat]

yea i confused the r710 with the r720

[rich depot]

i know i have 2 cpus but i dont know if its the 5500 or the 5600

[floral wave]

I'm almost a little surprised they didn't just completely overpower the F@H server

[rich depot]

i wish they had a stats page

so that we could see how much there struggling

[hushed bobcat]

you mean a server stats page?

[rich depot]

yes

[hushed bobcat]

https://apps.foldingathome.org/serverstats

[smoky rose]

There is a server stats page...but not much stats on it.

[hushed bobcat]

looks like they've almost upgraded all there servers to 9.6.1

[smoky rose]

I would also like project stats.
x/y/z WU
Assigned, Completed, Total

[hushed bobcat]

oddly enough the LTT server which went up only a few days ago is 9.6

https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/aggregate_summary.php?s=

this is the top 12,000 teams

doing about 500,000 WU's a day

[smoky rose]

I was thinking somewhat realtime updates on Project progress.

[hushed bobcat]

24 million WU for the month of March

[mild kiln]

Ugh

Finding Air Coolers is tough especially to find and buy now with free shipping at a cheap price

and I got a crappy what you spell Aceatech cheap 120mm AIO

and they pricey

Thermalright never heard of

[cursive sparrow]

Uh jakkuh, how do i do this?

[smoky rose]

Do what?

@cursive sparrow

[lean spire]

anyone here running on linux? i cant seem to get F@H to seem to get my gpu to show up in my linux machines

[smoky rose]

Nvidia or amd?

And can you get us your FAH log? Pastebin would be great.

[lean spire]

nvidia

im trying to get the log but aapparntly theres more issues then i thought will report back if the wiki entry i found helps

[cursive sparrow]

i want to try this out on my own

[timber grove]

folding? @cursive sparrow

[smoky rose]

@cursive sparrow Operating system? Hardware?

If Windows, download from here: https://foldingathome.org/start-folding/

During the installation you get to a part where you choose your username. Here you can request a passkey, do that, and join a team. LTT Folding Team # is 223518

[cursive sparrow]

I cant download it

[smoky rose]

Why not?

[solid thunder]

he's not epic enough

[timber grove]

wow

[smoky rose]

I really like Bruce.

Re: FAH infrastructure failed to load clients with payload W

Postby bruce » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:28 am
There's an old expression "There are no atheists in foxholes" which in a rather direct way is suggests that people on the battlefield think and feel differently than when they're at home, pondering a beautiful flower. I thnk you'll have to understand that current COVAID crisis is much like a battlefield environment and the staff that might happily accept some or all of your suggestions at some other moment in time aren't already stretched to their physical and emotional limits expanding FAH's capacity to keep up with the rate at which new clients are being brought online.

Scientific research is proceeding within the constraints of the current server bandwidth limitations. Humans are extending those limitations on a regular basis. Let's concentrate on getting the results published so that other scientists can add to what we're learning. Read https://foldingathome.org/news/ for more information.

This is a support forum. The only thing we can do right now is put your suggestions on a listto be looked at again after the crisis is over.```
https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?p=320891#p320891

[lean spire]

well after installing the proper arch version now i cant get it to start at all

[smoky rose]

I read on the FAH forum that the FAH package is broken. Someone asked about redistributing the binary. I know arch devs are really fast when it comes to adding things to repo. But right now I think it is a bit hard for them to get what they need from FAH.

[lean spire]

rip me

im trying to loophole get it working if i pull it off i will post here

[smoky rose]

https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?p=315573#p315573

@lean spire ^^

[lean spire]

its good to see its being activly talked about. how recent that was is kind of amazingg tbh.

really feel like everyone is trying to step up

[smoky rose]

I don't use arch myself but I have a friend who do. He is friends with one of the devs. Whenever he encounters a problem he lets them know and most of the time, within a day, a fix is in the repo.

[lean spire]

Thats great to here! I only switched back to linux for the customzation I just feel more comfortbale surfing the web in it now so I'm never in windows. lol

[storm talon]

I use debian

missed a letter there lol

[lean spire]

i just got my arch kde setup perfect no way am i going through this again 😂

[storm talon]

arch and kde is a dope setup tho yea

I've just never had a problem that debian wasn't able to solve

[lean spire]

escpeally with custom widget to steal the good stuff from unity (like global menu)

[storm talon]

LOL unity

kde3 for life

[lean spire]

i mean global menu fixes a lot of weird (this program was only made for unity) issues

[storm talon]

if I need a gui I will usually just use minimal

[smoky rose]

I started with slack back in 97 something. Had a very brief encounter with Ubuntu. Running Debian now.

[storm talon]

ubuntu is great if you don't want to configure anyhting

[smoky rose]

As soon as you open up a terminal and apt-get something all hell breaks lose.

[storm talon]

lol it's all snappy now

[smoky rose]

"very brief encounter" = installation + 10 minuts of use.

[storm talon]

apt is depreciated on ubuntu

[smoky rose]

Ubuntu can burn in hell for all I care 🙂

[storm talon]

yea.... i'm still trying to get my boss off of friggin centos

[silver wing]

pretty sure latest install of ubuntu server aptitude wasn't even installed by default anymore, did they like back away from that

[storm talon]

yea they're using snap now

[silver wing]

I still use apt cos it still works lol

[storm talon]

oh hell yea

when i saw ubuntu layered another daemon ontop of system d

I lit a fire, and backed away slowly

[smoky rose]

GPU jobs are coming back to back now. Nice.

[mild kiln]

I see

More COVID CPU

Nice

hope we can break that piece of the virus soon

[smoky rose]

It would be nice if distributed computing "solves" it before any of the super computers do.

[fierce steppe]

Big brain: use the super computers to contribute to the distributed projects

Hmm, have we plateaued at around 4B points per day?

[rich depot]

Big brain: use the super computers to contribute to the distributed projects
@fierce steppe please not, that would mean even less wu's for us, and more people stopping with folding because of it

[fierce steppe]

Expanded mind: Use the super computers as work servers

[rich depot]

Nah

Just use them for tasks that can't be done with distributed computing

You don't need a supercomputer for work servers

[storm talon]

yea for sure

they just need to keep up with supply and command

[rich depot]

I can't blame them for not being able though

[storm talon]

oh fuck no

no one can handle this kind of growth

even bezos looked at it and said nah

[pseudo abyss]

Because actually finally getting my more than 2 WUs a day, I have gone from rank 18xx to 1359.

[rich depot]

Only way they could handle this growth if the whole system had been build for easy deployment and expandibility, but thats too expensive

[trim nexus]

been getting somewhat consistent WUs, find that restarting once a day works best for me

[smoky rose]

linus1 has been assigned work units. Beta CPU

[rose seal]

Jesus. So if i left my PC folding everyday for 1 month.

We are charged around $0.13/kWh for electricity
1 month folding my PC would do 792kWh

Thats $102.96USD/mo.

Thats taking into consideration im assigned a WU to both GPUs and CPU 24/7 without a break

[smoky rose]

I'm happy I don't pay for electricity.

[stark bough]

@rose seal Thats assuming you cant adjust the PPD/W calc in there

[rich depot]

damn, what hardware do you use that uses over 1000 watts in total @rose seal

[rose seal]

2 2080Tis and 9980XE (4.6ghz overclock)

When all three are full tilt. The kilowatt reads 980+ watts

[rich depot]

isn't that overclock sucking a lot of power? like, usually the benefit of the overclock is very low compared with the speed boost you get right?

[rose seal]

Yeah. Even on a custom loop it gets up to 78-80c

It was to break 10,000cb on Cinebench r20

Which it barely did

[rich depot]

ah okay

[rich depot]

you might wanna see if the extra powerdraw of the oc is worth it for daily use when folding. I don't know how much more it is compared to stock. but if its a lot and you are worried about paying for electricity

[rose seal]

It probably isn’t. I just never toned it down since it was stable.

But Jesus when both the gpu and cpu are going the water gets real warm

I ordered 2 more Noctua 140mm IPPC so my Rad can be push pull config

[rich depot]

here I am, sitting with the amd stock cooler on my 2600x 😂

[rose seal]

4.7ghz I’ll hit 100c and throttle with the GPUs idle

[hushed bobcat]

@rose seal I really like the Noctua IPPC fans, though they are louder than I expected at full tilt

[rose seal]

Yeah but at full tilt they are around 3k RPM. They are movin ALOT of air

I love them

Pre custom loop

[hushed bobcat]

damn thats clean

[rose seal]

I only put 1 gpu on water as SLI is dead

[hushed bobcat]

The chromax black NH-D15 looks soo good

[rose seal]

It’s on soft tubing temporarily. When the new nvidia cards drop I’m only gonna get one Titan and hardline it.

[hushed bobcat]

i tried water cooling once

it didnt go well

[rose seal]

Shitty picture I don’t have a nice one like the one above yet

MW runs a lot better though

I stay around 55c

[hushed bobcat]

this was my water cooling attempt

[rose seal]

Oof that little res

This was my first custom loop ever

[hushed bobcat]

Its the EK Liquid line

the aluminum one

the pump died within 3 weeks

while i was away

and the CPU block clogged 2 times

and it leaked

on the back of my 1080 Ti

[rose seal]

Ouch.

[rose seal]

I was super paranoid when I went to Florida for 2 weeks.

But I kept it on 24/7 and it was fine

What coolant you use?

[hushed bobcat]

well you probably have better parts than the EK Aluminum line

it came with an additive to use with distilled water

[rose seal]

All nickel

Yeah I didn’t do that. I just went to micro center and got premix

[hushed bobcat]

problem is EK said to ONLY use there stuff

or it would void the warranty

[rose seal]

They sell premix

[hushed bobcat]

not for the aluminum line

[rose seal]

Cryofluid or some shit like that

[hushed bobcat]

well

atleast not when i bought it

[rose seal]

My loop is only about 3 months old and the tubes look “burnt” lol

Idk if heat did that or what

[hushed bobcat]

i decided a monster air cooler is just safer

performance is within 10% or so of a custom loop

albeit while being louder

[rose seal]

I never had temp issues with my CPU on the AIO but my GPU would always peg 88c and throttle

Was so annoying

[hushed bobcat]

my 1080 Ti hits about 76C under synthetic load

while gaming it rarely gets above 70

[rich depot]

my gpu hits 54 under full synthetic load

[rose seal]

I’m 4K so that’s why

[hushed bobcat]

1440p 144fps

[hallow tiger]

Mine's about 56 with an EK Phoenix AIO

[rose seal]

I lock the monitor at 98hz

To retain 4:4:4 color

Plus HDR

[noble hatch]

one day work

[rose seal]

2k WUs?

Jesus

[hushed bobcat]

2300WU's in one day?

[noble hatch]

is that good or bad?

[hushed bobcat]

i can barely clear 50

[rose seal]

I can barely clear 10

But completing 1 gets me around 150k points

[hushed bobcat]

idk why i did so terrible yesterday

[noble hatch]

where can i find that stat?

[hushed bobcat]

https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=223518

[rich depot]

thats not 1 day you did @noble hatch

https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=813595

[hallow tiger]

Linus is up late ...

[noble hatch]

?? activated folding at home yesterday

switched from boinc

[rich depot]

then somebody has the same username as you have

folding for the same team

[noble hatch]

oh? wired

[hallow tiger]

7 clients?

[hushed bobcat]

that means you dont have a passkey

[rich depot]

you only did 16 wu's yesterday according to eoc

[rose seal]

I don’t keep it on 24/7. It’s on and off periodically throughout the day

[noble hatch]

yeah if other did 10 then 2k is surly false klame on one day

haha

my bad

🤣

[hallow tiger]

klame?

oh - claim

[noble hatch]

clame

[rich depot]

claim with a stroke xD

[noble hatch]

😛

[rich depot]

btw, does anybody know if amazon has responded to the awsfolds team?

[stark bough]

@rose seal maybe preservative and a chemical reaction?

[rose seal]

Possibly

Soft tubing sucks

Can’t wait to switch to PETG

[rich depot]

I don't see the complaint, you are called yellowsnowman and have yellow water running in your system

[rose seal]

Supposed to be clear loool

[rich depot]

so your supposed username is ClearSnowman23 ? 😂

[rose seal]

XD

[hushed bobcat]

maybe someone peed in your loop? 🤣

[rich depot]

don't drink the yellow liquid kids

[noble hatch]

🤣
looks like i dont get jobs downloaded

just waiting

[rose seal]

Shows how inactive that bottom card is

[rich depot]

I'm currently running both a cpu and a gpu job

[rose seal]

I’ll know when all 3 are running. My room starts getting warm. Quickly

[rich depot]

I have spliced my cpu in 3 different jobs for cooling, when I woke up all 4 jobs were running

[rose seal]

I just have it use 30 threads at full power

Still uses 36

[rich depot]

I have a 12 thread cpu, but the stock cooler is annoyingly loud. So I have split it into 4-4-2. I have the 2 thread running 24/7, same as my gpu. I enable the 4 thread ones when I go to bed and click on finish for them when I wake up

keeps the sound low during the day, and temps down during the night (running all 12 threads will get me above 80c)

[rose seal]

I have a 16 core vps that runs 24/7

[rich depot]

do they even have many jobs for 30 cpu cores?

[rose seal]

barley

[rich depot]

wouldn't you get more work done if you split them into chunks of 8?

[rose seal]

probably

[rich depot]

so.....

why wont you? 😂

[rose seal]

xDDD ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rich depot]

added benefit though, if you make like 5 jobs of 6 threads, there is a likelyhood that 1 of them isn't running, keeping the temps of the other cores down a bit

[rich depot]

?

[rose seal]

all threads are maxed

they look solid blue

[noble hatch]

have 7 servers, nothing to do, wating to download

[rose seal]

my 16core vps literally gets one job after the next, working 24/7

[noble hatch]

when is the LTT FAH server up?

[rose seal]

My dedicated barely gets any

[hushed bobcat]

ohhh EPYC

@noble hatch its been up for several days

[rich depot]

do I have to repeat my pro tip of splitting up the cpu into multiple jobs so it will get more jobs?

[rose seal]

its a 6c/12t Xeon

[hushed bobcat]

since Sunday i think?

[rich depot]

friday night, during wanshow

[hushed bobcat]

@rose seal I want to build an Epyc server

Yea I think Bluehero is right

[rich depot]

but yeah, you won't get as many jobs for a 30 core setup as for multiple lower core count setups. so split them up in software

[noble hatch]

@hushed bobcat stil not any jobs to download. maby later.

[hushed bobcat]

they had some earlier

they go fast

[rose seal]

If intel doesn’t do anything special or spectacular in the next 1.5-2yrs. I’m upgrading my 9980XE to an EPYC

[hushed bobcat]

i've seen 4 jobs from the LTT server in my clients

wouldn't threadripper be better for a desktop?

[rose seal]

Yeah

But I build for enthusiasm. I barely game at all

Enthusiast

[rose seal]

Next CPU is either EPYC or Xeon

[noble hatch]

Bonic android is out of jobs to..

[rose seal]

My GPU just grabbed another seconds ago lol

Crossed 9M points too

I should hit 10M within the next 12hrs

[hushed bobcat]

my 1080 Ti is sitting on 25 attempts 😦

[stark bough]

But I build for enthusiasm. I barely game at all
@rose seal
Be afraid of saying that lout loud. theres always someone demanding you turn over your computer so they can game 😄

[noble hatch]

My riggs running FAH at the moment:
i7-4790K - AMD vega56
xeon E5530
xeon X5660 - Nvidia K5000
xeon E3 1225 - Nvidia P1000
Xeon 2x E5 2620 v3
iMAC 27" i7 1.gen
i7-3770 - Nividia K2000

cool i'm getting jobs for LTT server

one download now

[noble hatch]

is there a way to monitor all FAH clients?
hace a few at home and some other places.

i know i can connect multiple cpmputers and having one client, but them offsite is more trubble to get to like https://www.boincstats.com/bam

[spark veldt]

the port

36330

needs to be open

when adding a client put the ip4 address and :36330

[noble hatch]

have no control of the network off site. 😦

[rich depot]

Teamviewe?

[noble hatch]

yeah do that now but nice to have all folders in one client, maybe i set up an vpn

[spark veldt]

can you open teamviewer

and open a port though that

[noble hatch]

teamviewer vpn?

dint know i that was possible

😛

[rich depot]

id suggest setting up a vpn between the devices you want to connect. exposing the fahclient port to the internet directly is probably too much of a risk. I think the simplest but probably somewhat janky solution could be hamachi

[hushed bobcat]

Personally, I'd link all the remote clients to the main client on the local network (like normal) And install Teamviewer on that local client

[mystic hollow]

i gave up on CPU jobs, they make my NH-D15 on 3900X too noisy :P. The 60W 1060 6GB is doing nice tho, around 300k points a day, good for me 😛

[noble hatch]

five workers up

did the TV vpn npw.
if the TV changes IP often i change to a self hosted VPN

[supple laurel]

i broke my 16 core in to 3 4s and a 2. i turn them all on got 2 of the 4s and the 2 got WU's in the 1st try the 3rd has not found a unit in almost 3 hours.....

[rich depot]

What does one get out of folding?

[spark veldt]

uhhh

a

[noble hatch]

nothing,

[spark veldt]

power bill

[noble hatch]

LOL

[rich depot]

Amazing reasoning.

[spark veldt]

cool visuals

[rich depot]

That is pretty cool.

[odd sparrow]

Well, that's four machines up and running on FAH now

[noble hatch]

yeah, helping figthing pademic like cov19

[noble hatch]

aids, alzherimers

[rich depot]

I think ill just leave it to supercomputers.

[spark veldt]

we are more powerful than them

all of us together

[noble hatch]

they do other stuff

WAY more

[rich depot]

Hpc solutions may do a lot of things. But they do those things way better.

Like the seirra which was literally built for that kind of workload.

[spark veldt]

a quantum computer that runs at 10000 ghz could do this really fast

but it would also cost alot

[odd sparrow]

Leasing time is difficult and pricey on any of these systems

[rich depot]

Supercomputers these days are way more efficient than normal computers.

[spark veldt]

not when running crysis

[silver wing]

For the tasks that FAH gives out there isn't really any difference, but that is by design

[noble hatch]

if yo dont like FAH so do Boinc, and something that interest you.

[rich depot]

Crysis in cpu rendering mode on a single node out of a supercomputer.

[silver wing]

FAH is doing things that on an individual job be considered low value as a lot of it is just speculation to see what happens without a direct expectation of a result/outcome that can be put to immediate use

[spark veldt]

lets contact aliens SETi@home

[silver wing]

So it's a bad idea to buy compute time on a cluster

[rich depot]

Tell the government that.

Theyre the ones buying it.

[silver wing]

What they run is different

[odd sparrow]

SETi is still a better use of resources than coin mining xD

[silver wing]

Same field of study, very different jobs being run

[rich depot]

The only coin thats remotely worth mining is ether.

Nuclear sims on the sierra is better than covid stuff change my mind.

[spark veldt]

upgraed my R5 3600 stock cooler to a Prism and wew no more idling at 97 degrees when folding (stays at 65 now)

[rich depot]

lol, familiar @spark veldt , only on the 2600x. they should ship prism with each cpu

[silver wing]

Well just take Summit for example, that was re-tasked to COVID and resulted in 77 potential drugs to further test

[spark veldt]

Yea would be nice

[silver wing]

What it did cannot be run on FAH

[noble hatch]

@spark veldt nice..

[spark veldt]

it overclocked its self to 4.1ghz

[rich depot]

Yeah im aware. They do custom stuff. But thats because its even a custom os.

So everything in every way will be different from a normal pc.

Technically mac osx can be run on big boi power hpc things.

[noble hatch]

lol my i7 doing 800k points a day and my 2x xeon 24thred is doing 60k.

[hushed bobcat]

no cpu im aware of can do 800k

[supple laurel]

your GPU is doing 800k a day not your CPU

[weary epoch]

it's also that with a real supercomputer, you have very fast communication between individual nodes

[noble hatch]

ok

[hushed bobcat]

MAYBE a 64 core threadripper

[weary epoch]

so you can split a problem across several nodes and pass data between them as needed. can't do that with FAH 😦

[noble hatch]

so is the amd more efficent then quadros in FAH?

[supple laurel]

i could tell you. @storm talon whats your PPD with all your CPU power and how many cores are you folding on

[noble hatch]

have k5000 and it polling just 100k

[silver wing]

@rich depot Nah Mac OS has been stripped entirely of everything of use for that, plus the way Xgrid worked isn't much different to FAH

[rich depot]

Mac osx didnt though

[supple laurel]

Larry is running his companys data centers for folding. so he could tell what high core number gets you

[rich depot]

It should work on a single node.

If theyre power 5 of course.

[silver wing]

It's called Xgrid and that is how it worked

[weary epoch]

ibm power5? isn't that extremely old?

[silver wing]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xgrid

[odd sparrow]

I really miss the PPC days

[rich depot]

2003 04 clam

[weary epoch]

what were you talking about running on a single node?

[hushed bobcat]

@noble hatch I just looked it up, The K5000 is based on the GTX 680 with a lower core clock. my 660Ti's pull around 90-100k PPD so that sounds about right. though I think you should be a bit higher

[rich depot]

A single hpc node with dual power5 cpus should work on mac osx.

[weary epoch]

it would be really interesting to see how FAH would perform on powerpc though

[silver wing]

I liked Power PC but Intel kinda went a fair bit past them performance wise for quite a while

[rich depot]

Hey i have a powermac g5 if they make software for ppc.

[weary epoch]

thing is with HPC you want scale across multiple nodes with a really fast network, so your problem can span multiple nodes

[rancid frost]

Want to see why you shouldn't leave it to supercomputers?

[weary epoch]

xgrid doesn't do that, it's basically just fah

[silver wing]

You can get dual socket Intel xserves, it's not a Power PC thing and dual CPUs and Mac OS X doesn't make HPC

[rancid frost]

Because there's a very good reason why you shouldn't leave it to supercomputers.

It's because supercomputers, compared to us, are PATHETIC.

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/308332-foldinghome-crushes-exascale-barrier-now-faster-than-dozens-of-supercomputers

[weary epoch]

you'd also have the same thing problem if you network a batch of computers at home to make a "cluster" - the network won't be fast enough

[noble hatch]

@hushed bobcat and the p1000?

[weary epoch]

FAH is better at handling lots of small jobs, summit's better at doing one big one

[noble hatch]

id does 60k

[weary epoch]

but yeah it's amazing that we're ahead of summit in terms of raw compute power. by a lot 🙂

[hushed bobcat]

@noble hatch about equal to a GTX 1050

[rich depot]

Just find a quantum computer.

[silver wing]

What makes supercomputers super computers is the very highspeed interconnects and storage, and even then there are two types: Massively Parallel Processor (MPP) and Cluster

[weary epoch]

^^

[noble hatch]

@rich depot yeah you do that

[rich depot]

Ill get right on it

Clam what does oc overhead look like on ibm quantum cpus

[weary epoch]

lol I didn't even know they existed

[rich depot]

They do. Theyre just hella beta mode.

[noble hatch]

beta??? no quatum!!

[weary epoch]

the two types of supercomputers I thought were shared memory and message passing.
for shared memory, you actually see all the memory across all nodes directly from your program
for message passing, you have to handle node-to-node communication yourself

[silver wing]

Actually very few MPP type because they are far more complex and expensive

[rich depot]

Are mpp faster?

[weary epoch]

no

well

they let you run programs not written to do node-to-node message passing

[rich depot]

We can move this to somewhere else as well since it isnt really about folding or boinc

[odd sparrow]

I imagine it depends on the task and how it's optimized

[weary epoch]

sure

and yup

[silver wing]

If you want to model weather at the global scale you need MPP

[rich depot]

#tech-chat-1 seems dead.

[silver wing]

CPR stat

[weary epoch]

cool

[hushed bobcat]

@noble hatch If you want best PPD per $ and Watt then the RTX 2060, 2060 Super, or Radeon 5700 XT seem to be the best deals

the 2060 is about 1.2 mil, 2060S 1.6 mil, 5700xt 1.7 mil PPD

[trail night]

LTT Team code plz

[hushed bobcat]

(these are estimates)

[supple laurel]

223518

[hushed bobcat]

223518

[trail night]

Thanks

[rich depot]

I have a well binned 2060s.

I should let folding run for a bit.

[stark bough]

been running my PC with a dust filter for a while. it doesnt cover the entire area but i can see where dust collected.

I somewhat expected the majority of it to be dust free, as the hepa filter seemed like it put out more air than the intakes could put in, creating a wall of filtered air

[rich depot]

i should have my 5700xt oc in a few hours.. yay. i love amazon. its gonna update and say "April fools!!!"

[stark bough]

It looks like the area just slightly away from it wasn’t filtered though, or may have just reduced it

[noble hatch]

@noble hatch If you want best PPD per $ and Watt then the RTX 2060, 2060 Super, or Radeon 5700 XT seem to be the best deals
@hushed bobcat I just run what I have. Maybe upgrade as we go.

[hushed bobcat]

I've been scouring eBay for deals on cards

not really finding much though

its hard to justify the cost of buying a gfx card just for Folding

even if its for a good cause

[rich depot]

i didnt buy mine just for folding.. but the 980ti will be still installed and set to fold 100% as long as i can get the drivers to play nice together..

[hushed bobcat]

what other card do you have?

[rich depot]

just got an msi 5700xt oc

[hushed bobcat]

ahh yea Radeon

good luck getting those to work together

[rich depot]

ive seen posts where its possible.. hell my psu might die so who know.. i used a calculator and it said im right on edge.. so yeah may not be able to but we will see

[hushed bobcat]

I've also looked into getting a SuperMicro or Gigabyte Tesla Compute server

the SuperMicro can fit 4x GPU's and the Gigabyte 8x GPU's

in a 2U form factor

[mystic hollow]

@hushed bobcat i just moved a 1060 6gb from unused system into my x570 server. i was thinking about the r9 380x too, but i prefer folding at low noise 🙂

[stark bough]

if i can get a 570 with a noisy cooler for $100, im willing to try doing a cooler mod on it

[hushed bobcat]

i've seen fanless mining cards on eBay for pretty cheap

the 1060 equivalent ones

[stark bough]

but that turboboost.

[fierce steppe]

Yeah if I could get a work unit that would be great

[celest bloom]

I'm getting WUs very consistently on most of my systems, try restarting f@h?

Only slot that isn't filled currently is a cpu:7 slot on my r5 3600x/gtx1080 system

I've got other cpu:7 slots that are being filled consistently currently (all intel)

[hushed bobcat]

Took me 36 attempts to get a WU for my 1080Ti

[rich depot]

@hushed bobcat set your client-type to advanced

ive been running 15 1080tis without any issues getting work units for about 24h now

just... a crash every now and then matter of fact I had one just now

what the setting does is making you eligible for what-ive-seen-called "public late-term beta" WUs and theres seemingly a ton of em atm

but they may be less stable and less well adjusted in score

[odd sparrow]

How to tell when The Borg are invading

[rich depot]

As long as they bring 7 of 9 with them, I do't care 😂

[oblique marten]

what is a decent amount of points per day?

[supple laurel]

all dpends on what hardware you have

[oblique marten]

I mean, what is helpful? Any or is there a point top which the electric being used does not equal the "help"

I am only running a I3 7100 and 1050ti.

[supple laurel]

so... everything helps. you never know what data might lead to that break though. that said. don't put yourself or family at risk. i don't know cost where you are but if it's like fold for a month vs putting food on the table for a day or two. put food on the table! we like the help but we understand

[oblique marten]

I would assume that this is not taking a whole lot of power.

I would likely use this with some 580's. I am putting at a warehouse.

or maybe get a 7700 for this board.

[odd barn]

A decent amount of points per day is anything above 1

any little bit helps

[supple laurel]

so rough math

your system under full load most likely 300ish watts

[odd barn]

A lot of people are talking about the efficiencies and stuff like that, but I honestly don't care about the points. All I care about is that the calculations from my PC are being sent to the servers so people doing their research can use it to benefit the entire human population

[oblique marten]

a 7100 and 1050? I should get a power meter. But it is one of the least power draining cards.

[supple laurel]

it would cost you about 1 USD a day ish. based on US average power cost

[odd barn]

My system running F@H cost me $20 more on my electricity bill

so I'm okay with that

We're currently being charged around $0.10 per kwh

[supple laurel]

and thats running 24/7. you won't be

[odd barn]

I am

[supple laurel]

quick google search said 12

[oblique marten]

I am too.

[odd barn]

Before F@H my hydro bill was around $50, now it's about $70-$80 tbh

And I'm okay with this

and that's Canadian, not US

[oblique marten]

I am running about 41,000 points a day

[odd barn]

give or take around the same for me

[oblique marten]

I was just wondering some averages.

[supple laurel]

and if your really worried about your power bill. don't CPU, it uses alot of power. and GPU is much stronger.

[odd barn]

Well, it all depends on hardware, but your load sounds like my load on CPU alone

[oblique marten]

I am trying to invite my company with thousands of laptops and PC's that are sitting idle 16 hours a day.

[rancid frost]

After October, I'm not worried about my power bill.

I only paid $20 more after running 24/7 for all of Folding Month.

[oblique marten]

good info. @rancid frost

[rancid frost]

The easiest thing to do is live in a place where the entire northern third of the state--apart from some local redundancy--is operated by a single power plant.

[oblique marten]

I think I can run a little better with a better cpu cooler.

Just a little. though. Probably not worth it.

[stark bough]

whatever you can put in.
I use my computer as a source of heat and i like seeing what kind of temps i can get

i dont like the temp swings im getting my cpu cooler.

[oblique marten]

GPU's calculate better? Is there an actual difference in CPU vs GPU?

[odd barn]

processing power, rendering, ability do to independent calculations without other processes requiring access to them

unlike the CPU where it's constantly being accessed

[oblique marten]

Someone said that they need CPU vs GPU yesterday

more so./

[odd barn]

huh

There are CPU prioritized tasks, and GPU prioritized tasks

the GPU tasks are more intensive because you have stuff like this showing up

[smoky rose]

My cpu have 4 cores / 8 threads.
My gpu have 1280 cores.

[odd barn]

there u go

[smoky rose]

GPU have more POWAH!

But...they can not be used to do CPU jobs.

https://apps.foldingathome.org/serverstats

OPENMM_21 and OPENMM_22 are GPU jobs.
A7 are CPU jobs.

[oblique marten]

21? 0 Hr?

[odd barn]

Is the 2080 Super better than the 2080 Ti or am I missing something here

[oblique marten]

So basically an older mining rig with a decent CPU would be a great way to go. If you were actually building a PC for this.

[green monolith]

lol

[supple laurel]

no ti is best

[green monolith]

dont make me pull out a fake tesla V100!

and fold on that

[odd barn]

what

[oblique marten]

Oh. here is a thought. the 2060 KO. would probably do fairly well.

[green monolith]

it would

[oblique marten]

and not so bad on power.

[worldly hazel]

my GPU is searching for a WU for over 4h now

[odd barn]

:pogey:

[dawn gazelle]

My CPU successfully is processing a WU, but my 'visualization' always just says 'Trying' for the connection. Think it's because of my VPN?

[odd barn]

nope

it's because the viewer for 7.5.1 is broken

[dawn gazelle]

Oh.

[mystic hollow]

@dawn gazelle do you want to fix it ?

[green monolith]

you need to get the git version

[mystic hollow]

or older version

[odd barn]

tbh I just use 7.4.4

[dawn gazelle]

Nah, it's fine, no worries.

Thanks for the info though

[green monolith]

"its all in your head"

[dawn gazelle]

I'm just glad my Points Earned finally updated

[odd barn]

ugh all these youtubers with april fools jokes are really getting my hopes up

[rich depot]

"its all in your head" :Trollface:
@green monolith that doesn't mean its not true, according to dumbledore

[mystic hollow]

@dawn gazelle if you want it working with 7.5.1, you can do this :

1. Download FAH 7.4.4 https://download.foldingathome.org/releases/public/release/fah-installer/windows-2008-64bit/v7.4/fah-installer_7.4.4_x86.exe 2) install 7-zip 3) extract the 7.4.4 files 4) copy FAHViewer.exe and freetype6.dll to c:\Program Files (x86)\FAHClient

[dawn gazelle]

Literally on Spotify right now

[green monolith]

uploading yet again for the git version

@silver wing can you pin that please?

[fierce steppe]

Now that's a big work unit

[dawn gazelle]

Yay, Visualization works

[green monolith]

example https://nuku.neko-network.net/screenshots/24d15yoQ586e.jpg

[dawn gazelle]

Thanks all

[green monolith]

and thats over "remote"

even if on local network

[odd barn]

Looks like it's time to play the waiting game again

[vernal oasis]

how do i search for my username in google docs?

[fierce steppe]

waiting game sucks, let's play hungry hungry hippos

CTRL + F

[vernal oasis]

thanks

Wow I'm far down, i better get folding

[noble hatch]

does FAH differs for core count?
"WARNING:WU01:FS00:Failed to get assignment from '18.218.241.186:80': No WUs available for this configuration"

so if i do smaller cpu threds, i get WUs?

[worldly hazel]

Failed to get assignment from '18.218.241.186:80': No WUs available for this configuration

[green monolith]

laughs

[worldly hazel]

I guess too many RTX2070 and similar GPUs are in the network ...

[green monolith]

my GTX 960 gets

[noble hatch]

this setup just do CPU

[onyx pike]

my web interface isn't working is that the same for everybody ?

[vernal oasis]

nah mine works

[noble hatch]

it would be nice to have a que system, a WU in working and another in wating to work, that way no delay og ideling

[onyx pike]

how do you check how many points you have without the web interface ?

[worldly hazel]

got a GPU WU

[hushed bobcat]

@noble hatch Actually by default F@H starts checking for a new WU when the current WU hits 99%

You can adjust that with the expert config
Its something like "next-unit percentage"

[devout wing]

same @dawn gazelle

[hushed bobcat]

Next Unit Percentage

v6: not applicable
V7: next-unit-percentage     XX

Sets the work unit percentage completed as to when the V7 client downloads the next Work Unit (WU) while the current WU is processing, where XX is between 90-100%.  99% is the default setting.

[devout wing]

wish I knew what was going on here lol

[smoky rose]

Water molecules not rendered correctly.

[devout wing]

ahjh, that explains the pinkish error color

[smoky rose]

https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=106&t=32628

[stark bough]

Wish they would clean it up to make solvent filterable

[devout wing]

thats better

to be fair its a different WU

[onyx pike]

my web interface isn't working is that the same for everybody ?
@onyx pike sorted https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=106&t=33686

[fierce steppe]

Don't use chrome

[devout wing]

iv been using firefox for it and dont have issues, but is there a way to make it not go to "sleep"

where it just doesnt update the progress if you go idle on that page for a bit

[smoky rose]

Close the web controller and start the advanced controller. Problem solved. 🙂

[devout wing]

true lol

[stark bough]

Protip:
Stop using chrome for web control

it’s like touching your face in public

Stop it

[rich depot]

protip. don't care about any control, just let the program do what its designed for

@fierce steppe I see you recently active, any update on awsfold yet?

[fierce steppe]

Contrary to popular belief I'm not actually Jeff Bezos 👀

[odd barn]

Hi Jeff

[fierce steppe]

Oh hi Mark

[odd barn]

I'm tempted to get an AWS server just to do folding at home but I feel like the hours would be used up instantly

[rich depot]

@fierce steppe I know, but I also know you don't have a life and have probably spent time searching for an official statement

[fierce steppe]

Well that's just rude

[rich depot]

okay, I should refrase that. You are doing your duty to not go outside without proper reason to keep this covid crisis under control

I didn't mean to be rude

[mystic hollow]

It is hilarious how the biggest mobile network in my country is also the worst when it comes to deals in these months. My network gave everyone with a subscription 1000GB of data. Another network had a 300GB data at biggest package, now they gave that to other packages too for April. 3rd operator gave everyone option to freely activate HBO GO for a month. The biggest operator ? Unlimited messages or 10GB of data 😄

[rich depot]

@odd barn tbh amazon is already donating their resources on their own... if anything it would probably be better to rent from small to mid size providers

[odd barn]

yeah, I agree with that

time to find smaller hosts and use their resources

[smoky rose]

Fcuk this shit. I'm not playing anymore.
...my partner caught Covid-19.

We have not seen each other for like three or four weeks.

[rich depot]

that sucks 😦

[small current]

nice

[smoky rose]

Atleast we are expanding our testing capabilities to include people who have had it to confirm antibodies etc.

So, go through it, get better, get tested. We can see each other again. Another two weeks? Four?

ragequit

[queen aurora]

shit all the best to your parnter @smoky rose

[smoky rose]

40 years old, no underlying conditions, in good physical shape. Should be ok.

[rich depot]

@smoky rose

[smoky rose]

Anywho, the next-unit-percentage works great. FAH started requesting a new WU 30 minutes before the current one was finished. A new WU was downloaded and ready 10-15 minutes later.

[devout wing]

same

[chilly widget]

Hey there everyone!
I'm usually not very active in this community, but after spending the last few days cleaning up my files and re-installing Windows, I decided to also join the folding team, which I was planning to do for a while, but my PC was literally so clogged up and slow already that I didn't think it was a good idea. Now I have a small question to the experts out there:
I have left the folding power on the default (medium), it started right away for my GPU, but took some time to get started on the CPU (I suppose because assigning just took a while). Now that it started on the CPU though I can see a very high usage (>90%), which I find a little peculiar, since the power is only set to "Medium". Is that normal?

[foggy viper]

On medium and high I find it uses 100% of mine, at light it goes down to 40%ish

[chilly widget]

What happens on Full then? xD

If medium is already 100 😛

[rich depot]

Ive had GPU workloads manage to crash my remote desktop connection (and the pc because it couldnt handle a disconnect like that) because while preparing the gpu core did some avx shenanigans with no concern to any performance limit < .>

[wide scarab]

I've been running folding @ Full to validate my overclocks on my new rig XD

[rich depot]

What is boinc

[chilly widget]

Ah, yeah, wish I could overclock my i7 6700K 😛

[rich depot]

@wide scarab in my experience compute tested OCs will most likely not be stable when put under rendering workloads

[wide scarab]

I finally replaced my aging i5 4690k with a ryzen 5 3600 and it's glorious

And yes, I have also been running the odd fuzzy donut of death or Prime 95 run as well

[rich depot]

prime 95 is a fun time xD

[wide scarab]

Works great as a space heater

[smoky rose]

@chilly widget
Light - CPU only, about 40%
Medium - CPU 40-90% and GPU
Full - Well, full tilt. All hands, battle stations, etc etc.

Or something like that. I don't remember the exact numbers.

[wide scarab]

Whilst it seems like knowledgable folks are in the chat, I have an older Dell Poweredge server that I want to add to my pool of clients, however, I have not yet been able to get folding running on OpenSuse server

[smoky rose]

It is also a question about how your config.
Default cpu slot is -1 which means available cores -1 per GPU. Maybe one for windows too.

[wide scarab]

And unfortunately, OpenSuse is the only OS I've managed to get running on that particular server

[rich depot]

you gotta be more specific than that with your error if you want us to help

[wide scarab]

That's the thing, I don't get an error.

So far as I can tell, it works, but when I go to check on it, it doesn't exist and after reboot, I don't find the service running

[rich depot]

[wide scarab]

And I've followed the instructions on the website as well

*as looked on the support forum

[kindred raft]

Did LMG start their own folding server? I keep getting download issues.

[rich depot]

is the process running at least? without it being a daemon? ive got it to run on the newest releases of debian and centOS with some work but those where some of the things i had to tweak here and there

[wide scarab]

It runs after install until next boot, at which point the files and such exist, but it will not start no matter what I try

Which makes 0 sense to me.

[rich depot]

huh

what do the log files say?

[wide scarab]

I'm wondering if it would be easier to get docker up and running and put it in a container?

I have only been working on it since this morning, so I have yet to read them far enough to gleam anything useful

[rich depot]

can you send me a log of one of the startups? (since it creates a new one for each time the client starts iirc)

[wide scarab]

If you don't mind waiting until I get off this call I have to jump on in about 2 minutes?

Working from home is a blessing and a curse

[rich depot]

its 7pm for me

ive got time

[wide scarab]

Lol East coast time, is 1300

[smoky rose]

@kindred raft Yes. https://apps.foldingathome.org/serverstats

But it is part of the FAH network. We can not tap into it directly. It is one of several new servers.

[kindred raft]

@smoky rose Are servers still overloaded or is there a client update I missed? I haven't gotten a download in 3 days

[smoky rose]

Yes they are. But we are getting work units. Upload your log to pastebin and we'll have a look.

[kindred raft]

https://hastebin.com/qazuxozavu.rb

[supple laurel]

LMG being funny... april fools saying shutting down the discord and going to teamspeak

[smoky rose]

You have processed several work units over the last days.

[kindred raft]

Weird; I couldn't see any when I checked periodically

Alrighty, thanks!

[supple laurel]

everyone needs to go read the announcement! apparently it's real. today just pushed the over the edge to make the call

[rich turtle]

In light of recent heated disagreements between myself and Gorgon, I regretfully announce my resignation from the LTT folding team.

Henceforth, I will be folding for EVGA's team. I will finish up these last WUs for LTT and then switch.

Sorry for any inconvenience this causes.

For those interested in the details, you can read my full resignation letter: https://folding.den-fi.com/foldingresignationletter.html

[supple laurel]

could be worse you could join PCMR

[smoky rose]

@kindred raft I see there are 500 000 WU available on the network. The servers are being hammered pretty hard. The error message "No WUs available for this configuration" can mean three things.

1. Server is busy, no time to talk to you.
2. You messed up your config.
3. There are no WU available.

1 and 3 are common. 2 is unlikely unless you did mess with your config since you last processed a job.
At the moment: Low odds on 1.

[odd barn]

Ayyy I got another WU finally

[unique sigil]

ayyyy there are jobs on the ltt server rn 😄

[odd barn]

Jake can I ask u a question without being spammed for it lol

Are y'all still working on that F@H server video or is it gonna be released soon?

[smoky rose]

@unique sigil They have been there since yesterday. What's the status of the server? C'mon, tell us! We needs to knows.

[supple laurel]

the server has been up since friday. it went up during the WAN show.

if the work server ends in .125 it's from the LTT server

[smoky rose]

@supple laurel But there are "no" jobs on it.
https://apps.foldingathome.org/serverstats

[unique sigil]

its on fp rn

[odd barn]

Awesome

[supple laurel]

lol that link shows there IS jobs on it

i'm working one right now

[odd barn]

It's great that Oracle's server is up now as well