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void walrus
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Network problem?
unstable oc pc crashed -> left with gpu WU

rancid frost
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Dang, that blows.

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I have to turn off my OC when I CPU fold, my GPU OCs work just fine.

edgy iris
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My GPU is a Ryzen 5700XT,, so not really sure how well that performs compared to an Nvidia GPU

void walrus
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its not Ryzen lol

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amd cpus are ryzen gpus are radeon

edgy iris
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oops.. typo Radeon 5700XT

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I was thinking that in my head.. been couped up too long inside ๐Ÿ™‚

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My CPU is a Ryzen.. Too many R's in AMD products ๐Ÿ˜›

mild kiln
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OK

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my dad approved me buying a Dark Rock Pro 4

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mainly with the pump concern reason

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even if its low

rich depot
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so i have went through all my settings and still i have a 1070 that wont fold at all

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it will start sand get to ,like 0.75% then drops the wu

rocky otter
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@rich depot are you overclocking at all?

buoyant pumice
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anyone know why my web control is constantly refreshing and not displaying anything?

rocky otter
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@buoyant pumice issue with chrome. Try doing it on another browser or using advanced control

buoyant pumice
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ah ok thanks

gusty path
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I worked around it by going f12

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and disable cash

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let page load

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enable cache again

rich depot
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@rocky otter yes alll my cards have overclocks

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and two 1070s out of 3 are working no issues

green monolith
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_ shakes head_

gusty path
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The overclock might not work on that specific card

rocky otter
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@rich depot it may have a stability issue that could be causing the crashing

gusty path
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try disable the overclock on that card

rocky otter
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Try it without the overclock, see if it works

gusty path
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I know several people on here actually underclock their stuff just to get it working

green monolith
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my stuff is running stock

gusty path
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Same

green monolith
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works just fine

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pets my servers

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goes to watch anime

gusty path
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Nothing I feel like watching right now

rich depot
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@gusty path trying now

gusty path
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I just wish I had a VR headset atm

rich depot
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might need a driver update

gusty path
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As I can't travel to go on vacation blobcry

rich depot
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i am on 442.50 tho

gusty path
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I am on latest 445.75

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Was on the prior to this one before, was also working

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And nice. I have now done 83 WU's

green monolith
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looks at my driver 440.59

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bet you cant find that version

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guess i "could" upgrade to 440.64

rich depot
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see she starts

green monolith
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but i wont

rich depot
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before i get to 1% she will crash

green monolith
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stick it on full

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make it bleed

rich depot
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lol

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i just hit past 1

gusty path
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you are on the wrong teaaaaaaaam!

rich depot
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maybe stock is better on that card

gusty path
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You heretic! asking us for help!

rich depot
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lmao its only one of 5 rigs i have three on my server two on ltt

green monolith
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@gusty path noone is on the wrong team

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get out nao

gusty path
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Damn, couldn't find my purge gif

rich depot
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lol

gusty path
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xD

green monolith
gusty path
buoyant pumice
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wow this WU is big

green monolith
gusty path
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Did it crash again?

buoyant pumice
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my CPU usually takes 25 mins

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this one is 2 hours+

green monolith
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just like your face!

rich depot
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@gusty path nope she is working

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finally at 3.85%

green monolith
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lol

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see OC while folding = bad jujus

gusty path
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Was it the OC?

marble quartz
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rather than OC u should undervolt

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spare some watts

rich depot
rocky otter
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@rich depot hell yeah, good to hear it! OCs can definitely speed up your folding, but folding is REALLY sensitive to stability

rich depot
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if i knew how i would

green monolith
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looks a my PSUs

buoyant pumice
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I OC and undervolt ๐Ÿ˜‚

rich depot
green monolith
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you windows plebs

marble quartz
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ayy

green monolith
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i am folding over here on linux!

marble quartz
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anyways whichever suits your temps i guess

rich depot
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so with linux andd folding@rancid agate

marble quartz
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F

rich depot
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@rich depot obviously!

rocky otter
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my case is the perfect fusion of mediocre cooling and not-hot components

rich depot
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my buddy has a amd gpu and a nvidia gpu when he blobs one it kills the other any solution?

rocky otter
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I have one singular case fan and it barely works

green monolith
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my servers have awesome airflow @rich depot

rich depot
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@rich depot well yeah, but the site just updated and its already done. Pretty fast

green monolith
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heat the whole apt!

rocky otter
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lmao I wish I had airflow

marble quartz
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/search mentions: Home#7852

rich depot
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Yep! can't knock jason, although it is still processing the user stats

rocky otter
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Luckily I end up being fine with temps since I've got a 9400F and a 1660 Ti, even when I overclock the 1660 Ti to 2GHz it only ends up being like 50 degrees CPU and 70 degrees GPU

rich depot
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in a few updates we will be 4th btw!

marble quartz
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good for u

rich depot
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how do they even process the stats, if the f@h site can't?

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anyone here on linux

green monolith
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yus

marble quartz
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I'm moving my tower to top of my desk, hopefully better temps

rich depot
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floor gives better temps heat rises higher your pc hotter the shit gets

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I hope that linus gets their server up. cause the more wu's are getting handed out, the faster we rise to the top

marble quartz
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yes but still better than under a table

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where heat rises and have nowhere to go

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also less dust

green monolith
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box fan!

rich depot
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make your self a ghetto air intake from outside

marble quartz
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I live by a main street, totally not an option

green monolith
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set your PC outside in a cage

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while its cold

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lol

marble quartz
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I do dust cleaning maintenance every month

marble quartz
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have to do full rinse all filters etc

green monolith
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thats super ghetto AF

rich depot
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why i use a dust filter on one end and a 80mm fan in other zero dust intake so far

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ya but i fold at 50c on my systems

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cold sair is great and im the only one down here to see it

green monolith
marble quartz
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anyways I want better access for maintenance

green monolith
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i fold on some of those ^

rich depot
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i want some servers for sure

marble quartz
odd barn
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sup everyone

rich depot
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whats your fan config inside like

marble quartz
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too tight for fan either

green monolith
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to much RGB in that ^

marble quartz
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3 front intake, 1 back 1 top

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arctic f12

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and an arctic e34 One cpu cooler

odd barn
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9 servers down ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

marble quartz
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most of the heat from the vega 56 tho

rich depot
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@odd barn sup

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does your case have top vent

marble quartz
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yes, just one tho

gusty path
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Lol, there is someone called AThome

rich depot
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240?

gusty path
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Just read up, got a phone call so had to step away from PC

marble quartz
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120

rich depot
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ouch

odd barn
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I'm looking at the F@H servers and only 13 out of the 22 servers are online

rich depot
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?

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ya they are upgrading i heard

marble quartz
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yeah I went with the cheapest case I could get

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didn't think it through

rich depot
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shit son which way is your cpu cooler mounted

marble quartz
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back

rich depot
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sideways or vert

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if you can get it side ways so it blows stright up and then get a high rpm ceiling fan then that would help get that hot air outta the case

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i have it that way on my older x58 with a noc nh14us and its awesome went down 5 c just by changing direction

marble quartz
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am4

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can't mount it upwards

rich depot
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what thats fucked make a different clip if your crafty

marble quartz
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i'm not

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no thx

rich depot
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is your dad or uncle

marble quartz
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no

rich depot
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ah

marble quartz
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so yeah on the table it goes, see what happens

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I undervolted the vega tho, so that's 10C less

rich depot
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yep

green monolith
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i was never talking about power grids

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so move along

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so?

rich depot
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@meager hound take your grids and go

green monolith
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myself out for a while

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you didnt see me
@meager hound lies

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AFK Mode Activated

solid thunder
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EO has us up to 5th from 6th, is that accurate?

rich depot
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yes

serene fossil
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anyone having luck with gpu jobs? been dry alst 2 days

solid thunder
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i got 2 in a row today, the second i'm currently on

gusty path
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Are you reseting it?

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I've done over 40 Wu's for gpus in the past 2 days

last imp
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I didnโ€™t get anything.

rich depot
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There's a lot of users

last imp
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Ik

rich depot
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Just refresh if you want to search and get a wu

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Like pause and fold

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Then it forces it to search again

last imp
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Did it every time Iโ€™m at the pc, but still

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Hopefully the new server is up soon

rich depot
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yeah

tranquil steeple
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This might be very silly but if i add more Nvida gpus to my system (plex server) will the new folding and Win10 just "work"

rose tundra
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for some people, sure

distant sparrow
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For the very first time in the last five days the points of my GPU folding were added to my score ๐Ÿ™‚

rich depot
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ya servers are hardcore backlogged

distant sparrow
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But this was kind of instant

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the ones of the others days may be lost in limbo

chrome iris
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Just wondering i have a second gpu not connected to a display and its folding. Hypothetically would it be possible to buy the mining gpus and make a folding rig out of them

timber grove
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i don't see why not

rich depot
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thats a good idea

small current
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got a cpu wu

chrome iris
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I remembered the video linus did about hacking a mining 1060 and thought it would be good to use them they be cheaper than reguar cards

small current
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its been 2 days without one

chrome iris
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been having a very good day today gpu wu all day nothing last two days

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prob not gonna have anything for a few days now

rich depot
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nah looks like they added a few servers and are handing out more wu's

chrome iris
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Is Linus doing a video about the server setup

vital edge
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do I dare try and set up folding on a laptop from 2003?

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might be something fun to do for the weekend of staying inside

mild kiln
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gah

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I'm loosing points cause a collection server won't accept data

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there we go

rich depot
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@chrome iris probably, since he posted an update with the server from home and it was going back to the office later

chrome iris
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Awesome cant wait. Was this on twitter not a big social media guy

rich depot
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not sure if it was facebook stories or youtube stories

shut halo
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18:48:52:WU02:FS01:Trying to send results to collection server```
Nice one. I think servers are kinda busy
rich depot
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yeah that sucks

vernal oasis
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both slots active

rich depot
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nice

near gazelle
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So if only one slot gets a WU, will it continue to try getting the other slot a WU while the 1st one is running, or does it wait for the working slot to finish before pulling another?

My CPU is working on one, but my GPU is sitting at Download, and the timer isn't going for next attempt.

hushed bobcat
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Yes it will try and get one while the other slot works

near gazelle
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Okay

hushed bobcat
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The timer can lag

near gazelle
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I've been watching the log and haven't seen any attempts, that's why I was curious.

hushed bobcat
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Usually I click on something and go back to refresh

near gazelle
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I'm using the Advanced Control.

hushed bobcat
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What's the time to your next attempt?

near gazelle
hushed bobcat
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Ohh

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Never seen that

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Whats the last thing the log says?

near gazelle
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That's the Advanced Control in Windows.

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I tried pausing and restarting, but no dice still, no attempts by GPU since the CPU picked up its WU

hushed bobcat
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There aren't any attempts

near gazelle
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Oh, it will show attempts lol

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I was expecting to see those messages for the GPU while the CPU is running.

hushed bobcat
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Maybe it found one and errored out on downloading it

near gazelle
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Shows GPU getting "No WU's avaiable" but the CPU picked one up.

hushed bobcat
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Has it said that at all after you got the CPU WU

near gazelle
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Nope.

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Nothign but showing progress on the WU for CPU

hushed bobcat
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What power are you set to?

near gazelle
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Full Power

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Full time

hushed bobcat
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I'd try pausing and resuming just the GPU worker

near gazelle
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Tried that lol.. Timer still sits at Unknown and doesn't try to pull a new one

hushed bobcat
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Pause folding and shutdown the client

near gazelle
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That's why I was here asking if that was normal behavior lol

hushed bobcat
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Then restart

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It isn't

fervent yew
near gazelle
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Restarted the machine after pausing the fold. Restarted fold, CPU came online immediately. GPU now showing a time.

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It's trying at least now ๐Ÿ˜‰

hushed bobcat
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Good to hear

near gazelle
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Odd bug

hushed bobcat
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I've helped quite a bit here, but it's the first time I've seen that issue

near gazelle
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Now you have, and we know what to tell the next guy lol.

hushed bobcat
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Yea "Turn it off and back on again"

near gazelle
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Who'd have thought?

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lol

hushed bobcat
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Literally the fix for everything

near gazelle
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My other machine hasn't had any issues besides the lack of WU availability, but that machine is significantly less powerful than this one.

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This machine is a R5 3600 with Vega 64, the other one is a FX 6300 with a GTX 750 lol

hushed bobcat
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Yea my GT 730 and 2 GTX 660Ti's pretty much are running 24/7

near gazelle
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I am trying to talk the kids into setting up their machines as well... one is a FX6300 with a R9 290, the other is a R5 1600(AF) with a R9 390X

hushed bobcat
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But my main rig with an 8700k and 1080Ti? Idle half the time

near gazelle
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A little extra power bill for a good cause, I'm all for it.

hushed bobcat
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For sure

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If what we're doing shortens this mess by any amount i'd say it's worth it

near gazelle
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Just wish it was easier to spin up a workunit server lol.. That's the only bottleneck I can see at the moment. If anyone with a spare rackmount Xeon could just install an app and distribute the WU a bit better.

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I've got a couple of old Dual Xeon Poweredge machines 12c/24t 1U servers that are pretty much idle I'd love to be able to donate to the cause. Maybe I'll just install the client on them lol

void walrus
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finally cpu got work

near gazelle
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Heh, It seems that's all I'm getting today

hushed bobcat
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I'm running a Xeon X5675 in an old SuperMicro 3U chassis

void walrus
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offer them like 5 bucks if they fold on your bill

hushed bobcat
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11 threads is about 27K PPD

near gazelle
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Lol, I was wrong on the xeons I have, they're 4c/8t each. So 8/16 for the server.

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I thought they were 6c's

smoky wing
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I just started folding on my GPU at about 1M PPD, which is still rising, is that good for GPU, or?

near gazelle
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E5640's x2

void walrus
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its good

rich depot
hushed bobcat
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A 2080Ti will run around 3M PPD

rich depot
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no where near ltt but

smoky wing
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Ah ok, the number is still rising for me, I'll see where it ends up

hushed bobcat
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What GPU do you have?

smoky wing
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I'm using an overclocked/undervolted Vega 56

hushed bobcat
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The sheet is old

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But gives a nice reference

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I'd say your 56 should top out around 1M

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It changes depending on the exact WU you're working on

smoky wing
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Alrighty, thanks, that sheet is great

hushed bobcat
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My 1080Ti has been anywhere between 1.35M and 1.85M PPD

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Exact same clocks

void walrus
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my 1050ti only doing 170k :sadde:

smoky wing
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Yeah, looks like I'm hovering around 1M

near gazelle
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@hushed bobcat So, I can replicate the bug. If I pause and restart just the GPU worker, it goes to Unknown.

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Might be hardware specific, who knows. You should try on your end too lol.

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I'm also getting this error now, after getting a successful? download of WU for my Vega64

storm talon
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try setting opencl index to 0

near gazelle
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Where is that setting?

storm talon
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that'd be in your slot config

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advanced gpu

near gazelle
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Set those to 0?

storm talon
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just opencl

near gazelle
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Ok, will report back if it works.

storm talon
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kewl

odd barn
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Hello again

buoyant vigil
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why did some of my points go to SudoMod? i never entered their team number

storm talon
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check that you haven't fat fingered a team setting somewhere I did that and ended up donating a wu to some weird plumbing company

near gazelle
storm talon
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eesh

buoyant vigil
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Ya i checked the team id is nothing like the ltt team

storm talon
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try deleting and redoing your slot completely

near gazelle
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Ok. Waiting for WU to try again lol

storm talon
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it can be a bit of a pain in the dick at first but once you get it whirring you don't need to do anything

near gazelle
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Yep. I have the latest AMD drivers installed, so hopefully won't have too many growing pains. My 2nd machine was plug and play lol

hushed bobcat
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that could also be from an unstable overclock

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if it even a little bit off F@H will throw out the WU

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also if you delete and redo the slot i would restart your client

near gazelle
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Nothing is OC'd

odd barn
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upgrading from an i5-6500T to an i7-6700 PC ๐Ÿ˜„

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Hopefully this'll help with the folding

edgy iris
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Has anyone heard anything about the dedicated Folding server that LTT was building?

storm talon
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they ran into a rgb issue

edgy iris
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did they post a video about it yet?

storm talon
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not that I know of, no

edgy iris
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ok cool

storm talon
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they did mention last week that video releases might slow down a bit as they're pivoting

desert sparrow
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Once a WU is finished, does it automatically send?

rich depot
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yes

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also, I believe that their server is done, but last update I saw was that it needed to get back from linus his home to the office and maybe get software installed there or something. he did a hardware upgrade though

rancid frost
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Planet Smasher is back to folding at full strength.

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All three cores have WUs running, completion time in approx. 2 hours.

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Similar time frame for Junkitron's current WU.

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Total gains in that time frame are close to 300k as of current analysis.

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CPU package temp in the mid-70s, GPU1 upper 60s, GPU2 mid-50s.

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Steady as she goes.

hushed bobcat
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LOL they use a PLX chip to get 2 more PLX chips...

storm talon
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yo dawg

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i heard you like multiplexing

rancid frost
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So you can fold while you BOINC.

hushed bobcat
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so its 16 lanes for 20 slots

solid anchor
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That is fine as long as devices don't need concurrent PCIe access

dreamy hazel
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Something is odd rn

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my cpu is on its 8th WU today, and it's always low base credit and they take like 20 minutes to finish

hushed bobcat
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they must've pushed out a bunch of those low credit WU

gusty path
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Yah a bunch of CPU WU's

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out of GPU ones tho

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nwm, got a GPU one

hushed bobcat
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one of my PC's CPU's hasn't gotten a WU in 14 hours

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up to 44 attempts

storm talon
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Total WUs 97

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just .... why

wide crystal
trail night
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My job its closing and they are allowing me to use all of their 40Super PC for folding, how do I make it so all those points go to my account?

wide crystal
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i also got the strange unconnected cube
@wide crystal and its like... breathing? thats weird

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My job its closing and they are allowing me to use all of their 40Super PC for folding, how do I make it so all those points go to my account?
@trail night just entry on all the pcs your identity

trail night
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Same name and key and team?

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And will work?

wide crystal
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yes

trail night
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Or just name and team?

wide crystal
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team name and key

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and if you want, you can control them from one computer. on the left you can add clients

trail night
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Thanks

storm talon
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Rip my internet

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Hopefully it comes back before I finish this wu

wide crystal
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Can somebody test the remote control over internet with me?

marble quartz
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u should put a password on that

wide crystal
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i did

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i dont have any pcs outside my network that i can access right now. so i need someone to help me with that. maybe you @trail night ?

storm talon
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I can if u want

trail night
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I will start testing tomorrow in the office to see how it works. I haven't tried yet but its a lot of Over Power PC's so I hope to make some extra points for that. I also need the remote access. If anything I will lyk

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Also if you figure out first let me know

wide crystal
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you both can if you want

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i know how everything should work, but i need to test

storm talon
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if siid is going to do it on his own it might be more beneficial for him to help you

wide crystal
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yes

storm talon
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that way he can learn

trail night
wide crystal
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i agree

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i didnt watched anything.. its just port forwarding

trail night
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I need to watch a few things, my company has all of those mostly lock, so I might need to do some extra steps.

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Also Maybe I can use a few of their servers for running f@h

wide crystal
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best thing you can do, local remote connection from one to every other computer on work and than acces this one over teamviewer or something at home. else you have to make a different port on every pc and make the port forwarding rules in the router for every pc

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and this would be work for many hours

trail night
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I will test it first on my Laptop and main pc with the laptop using different network.

wide crystal
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ok @storm talon do you want to help me?

storm talon
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u just need me to connect and verify i can pause/start?

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shoot me the info

wide crystal
#

perfect. add me on discord. dms are disabled on ltt

storm talon
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and my folding client crashed lol

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one sec

wide crystal
#

perfect. add me on discord. dms are disabled on ltt
@wide crystal nvm was a bug

trail night
storm talon
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great success!

hushed bobcat
#

ahh not folding for LTT team

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shame on you!

wide crystal
#

@trail night we tried and everything worked

trail night
#

Port forward.?

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I havenโ€™t figure out yet

wide crystal
#

i can show you

trail night
#

Regulars 2?

wide crystal
#

really easy

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Regulars 2?
@trail night ?

trail night
#

VC

wide crystal
#

ohh yes

near gazelle
#

So a reboot fixed the 1st error I had, but now every work unit my GPU gets just errors out with bad_work_unit

22:39:58:WU01:FS01:0x22:ERROR:exception: Error invoking kernel sortShortList: clEnqueueNDRangeKernel (-5)
22:39:58:WU01:FS01:0x22:Saving result file ..\logfile_01.txt
22:39:58:WU01:FS01:0x22:Saving result file science.log
22:39:58:WU01:FS01:0x22:Folding@home Core Shutdown: BAD_WORK_UNIT
22:39:58:WARNING:WU01:FS01:FahCore returned: BAD_WORK_UNIT (114 = 0x72)
22:39:58:WU01:FS01:Sending unit results: id:01 state:SEND error:FAULTY project:11776 run:0 clone:28405 gen:1 core:0x22 unit:0x00000004287234c95e774adaef7bb19f

storm talon
#

your drivers are all up to date?

near gazelle
storm talon
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hmmm

near gazelle
#

Just tried removing the slot and restarting.. Re-adding now, and will restart again lol

storm talon
#

that seems to be the default fix for that issue

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I think you said you had reinstalled f@h, did you remove your %appdata% between installs?

near gazelle
#

Finally... Working. Lol

storm talon
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defaultdance

near gazelle
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Yep. Enough reboots and dickering around and it works. Now to not touch anything lol.

storm talon
#

yea man just kick back and enjoy those internet points

near gazelle
#

919k / day on just GPU. I'll take it. Far better than anything I've seen yet lol

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The R5 3600 was doing about 120k.. My FX6300/GTX750 machine gets about 75k combined lol

wide crystal
#

@trail night look at your friend requests

storm talon
#

i have dual 8400gs's at the office

near gazelle
#

Classic! Lol

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Makes me want to spin up a few of my vintage rigs just to put them to work for more than retro games for once.. Not exactly a watts per point winner, but could be a funny video ๐Ÿ˜‰

storm talon
#

it used to a quadro 4000 but that stopped quadroing

near gazelle
#

Does the current F@H suppport Windows 98 or XP? Lol

storm talon
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I don't see why not

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might not be the best experience

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i should bust out the old appleIIe

near gazelle
#

Well, I have internet-capable 486 and Pentium 1 rigs that would be chuckle-worthy at a minimum

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I have much older hardware than that, but not windows 98 compatible, and I doubt F@H would run on 3.11 or DOS. Getting the linux version to run on kernels that old would probably be a non-starter as well.

storm talon
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311 no way

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just build your own modern kernel lol

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lolol

near gazelle
#

Non-starter due to missing instruction sets. I've tried getting modern features working on a 386 CPU, it's just not possible without SSE for a lot of them.

smoky wing
#

I started folding a new WU on my Vega, and now it's running at 1.5M PPD

near gazelle
#

Is that really running on TempleOS? ROFL

storm talon
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xD

near gazelle
#

That's amazing.

storm talon
#

that would be amazing considering templeos deliberatly had no networking stack

near gazelle
#

I've seen people do some crazy stuff lol..

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Isn't there a team doing work to that still, for the lulz?

storm talon
#

yea i'm loosely associated

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not doing much

near gazelle
#

I love custom OS's, even when they're not very good. ie ReactOS

rich depot
#

any tricks to speed up folding

trail night
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CPU at 3050MHz

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Will finish the WU fast

near gazelle
#

I guess my quarantine project tomorrow will be getting folding going on a Duron 1800 rig with a FX5200.

If I can get that one running (It's technically Windows 7 compatible), I'll go older and try a K6/2-500 on Windows XP or 98

storm talon
#

react is great

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love it

near gazelle
#

Hmm.. Might not be able to do anything older than XP, and the slower CPUs might be a no-go...

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Unless I can find older versions of the software that are still functional

oak crest
#

linux ?

near gazelle
#

For linux, it's even harder believe it or not. 11.04 kernel requires SSE2 at a minimum IIRC

oak crest
#

ah ok

near gazelle
#

Still doesn't look like a K6 would cut it.. but the Duron might

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It's all just an exercise in killing boredom though lol

oak crest
#

yup

near gazelle
#

I do have 40 Atom-based mini-ITX boards I could technically power up and toss online lol... Might have to look into clustering, as I don't have enough storage for all of them lol

rich depot
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@near gazelle my n3050 laptop does the wu slower then they alow so its useless

storm talon
#

pxe boot em

rich depot
#

bot net them and then fold with them but thats a lot of psus

oak crest
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thats why i threw together my testbench, running Manjaro and folding like a beast. but the gpu is giving me problems

near gazelle
#

Yeah these are Atom n270 CPUs.. Dreadfully garbage lol.

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They use a single 12V barrel jack or a 2-pin 12V molex. I can power all the boards off of one decently sized PSU

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But as a cluster, they might be able to do a WU fast enough..

I've never tried creating a cluster before, could be a fun project.

storm talon
near gazelle
#

My only limitation is lack of SATA drives for them (but could be solved with PXE) - and lack of a 40 port switch LOL. Best I can plug into a network would be about 28 right now

storm talon
#

you mean like dis?

oak crest
#

40 cores and 2 gpus so far

near gazelle
#

What are you using for the cluster?

storm talon
#

debian with pssh

near gazelle
#

These boards have PCIe slots, so I could plug in every single pcie gpu I have (about 20 of ancient heritage lol)

storm talon
#

i call it the buster cluster

near gazelle
#

You should write up a tutorial, lol.. I'll start googling to see if there's anything out there already.

oak crest
#

damn the cpu on my new rig is 92C

near gazelle
storm talon
#

lol tutorial, then everyone else be stealin my wu's

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i basically just made one vm on esxi, got it folding, and cloned it 39 times

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my boss got mad so i had to scale it back by half

near gazelle
#

So what does PSSH do, exactly.. Makes all the separate "cpus" into one virtualized machine?

storm talon
#

nope, it's parallel ssh

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type command into one shell, or edit one file, and it does it parallel on all the systems

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pssh -l user -h cluster1 reboot

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or something like that

near gazelle
#

Yeah, but if one little atom core can't finish a work unit in time, so you want to distribute that one WU across 10+ discrete CPU's working as one, that's what I'd want to try.

storm talon
#

each node in and of itself is free running

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if I wanted a big monster of a system I could just take all the cores and shove it into one vm

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but I get more success spinning out multiple quad core instances

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98 wu's so far and i t hink uptime was around 50 hours

forest sapphire
#

woot broke the 4mil point mark

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How ya doing @storm talon

lilac matrix
#

We're No. 1!

solid thunder
near gazelle
#

Frantically googling how to build a "supercomputer" at home from these ATOM boards now lol.. So much information out there.

green monolith
#

BeoWulf Cluster server

near gazelle
#

Does that require individual boot media, or can it be done over PXE for storage-less nodes? I don't have enough storage to give each board it's own hdd

green monolith
#

prob can do it over PXE or even floppy disk

hollow ember
#

Hey all, just had a quick question, what defines Idle for FAH? I have it set to fold when idle and I just turned off my RGB and monitors and went to bed last night but checking the logs when I got up it never started folding.

green monolith
#

if you know what a floppy disk is

solid thunder
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it's like 5 minutes of not being in use iirc

marble quartz
#

no user input should be it

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also not in use

hollow ember
#

i slept longer than 5 minutes lol and wasn't touching it

marble quartz
#

probably just couldn't find any WU

green monolith
#

you know windows

solid thunder
#

what does the log say

green monolith
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its never idle

hollow ember
#

didn't even connect out to try to find a WU

solid thunder
#

does the log like have attempts to get a WU

marble quartz
#

did the log say it tried to look for WU?

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hm

solid thunder
#

no ok so it's screwy then

lilac matrix
#

We're saving the world guys!

marble quartz
#

i don't really use idle

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srsly i've been binging all day while my gpu crunches numbers

hollow ember
#

everything's just paused waiting for idle

storm talon
#

are you on Light mode

hollow ember
#

I was, i just didn't wanna make the room hot lol

marble quartz
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set it to full

green monolith
#

med*

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you get work w/o bogging down system

marble quartz
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put a power limit

hollow ember
#

lol on full mode i'm pushing 60c on the GPU and 75 on the CPU under water, i'd rather be awake incase it gets hot and leaks or something weird

near gazelle
#

@green monolith The name should give away my knowledge on vintage computing technologies ๐Ÿ˜‰

marble quartz
#

your PC would shutdown if it overheats

hollow ember
#

violently if it leaks though lol

green monolith
#

dont make me beat you over the head with a WordStar 8" floppy disk from the CP/M OS @near gazelle

marble quartz
#

do you distrust your build so much that it might leak lol

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what a waste

storm talon
#

think linus has proved a ton of times that leaks don't matter ๐Ÿ˜‰

green monolith
#

you must be nice user of Komi avatar!

hollow ember
#

I just repasted the CPU a few days ago, so yeah for now I do, it leaked a a little bit when doing the leakdown so i'm skeptical

near gazelle
#

My vintage computer collection is huge, and varied lol.

green monolith
#

to bad I dont have my Altos computer anymore that thing was huge

near gazelle
marble quartz
#

at least run the gpu tho

hollow ember
#

So essentially put it to medium and it should kick on but on light it won't on idle mode?

rich depot
#

i wish i could proxy all my systems to then use as one system to do wus

near gazelle
#

and about 20 of a similar board with the N270 cpu

storm talon
#

that is correct ignored

green monolith
#

lite is more linux friendly

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windows cant stay idle, its like a little kid with a 24/7 sugar rush

hollow ember
#

gotcha. I might consider booting it off a live USB drive and seeing if my scores go higher ๐Ÿ˜‰

marble quartz
#

I just set my config to always run on full, spare 2 threads to binge stuff while at it

rich depot
#

@unique sigil any ETA on how long till the server is serving WUs?

marble quartz
#

streaming full hd doesn't really use gpu/cpu power

near gazelle
#

One corner of the vintage "lab" @green monolith - with a few of my favorites powered up

rich depot
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@near gazelle what do you do for a living build pcs?

near gazelle
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I'm an electronics Engineer. I do build PC's on the side, and I collect vintage computers ๐Ÿ˜‰

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As for the cluster, I think I'll work on tossing something together tomorrow as a test using PelicanHPC - it seems to be plug and play for creating a cluster, and I can test with 8 machines to start until I find a new switch.

green monolith
#

you need those classic speakers @near gazelle

marble quartz
#

what do u need vintage computers for tho

near gazelle
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Those things are amazing @remote owl - I'd never give them up lol

marble quartz
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legacy software?

near gazelle
#

Playtime... Vintage gaming, hacking, etc.

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I got my Commodore Vic20 on wifi and could email and use google lol

marble quartz
#

virtual machines exists tho

green monolith
#

no no i have to go find a pic

near gazelle
#

Not the same as vintage bare metal though

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No emulator can perfectly reproduce a SC-55 lol

green monolith
near gazelle
#

I have a set of those in my basement! lol

green monolith
#

a pair of these bad boys

near gazelle
#

Exact ones

marble quartz
#

i once saw at my uni someone remade a NES from scratch

green monolith
#

200 watt shielded computer speakers !

rich depot
#

is there a way to cxluster my 8 systems in my house together

marble quartz
#

but with modern hardware

near gazelle
rich depot
#

if you can do that then shit just hammer wus

near gazelle
#

FPGA's are pretty neat, and allow you to do a lot of cool stuff like that, but even those don't get everything 100% right.

rich depot
#

we did it ion mining crypto

marble quartz
#

so it runs like on modern transistors and stuff, but no software work. pure hardware

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no emulation

near gazelle
#

I have between 40 and 50 old Atom-based ITX mainboards I plan to cluster together starting tomorrow lol

marble quartz
#

is actually running old hardware worth it, like it isn't any efficient tho

rich depot
#

well ill pm you so i can figure it out with my systems at the same time

near gazelle
#

Without the main CPU chips, @marble quartz you need to re-create the stuff in FPGA or some other form of emulation. Otherwise, it's just the original made with a new PCB

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FPGA is as close as you can come to real bare-metal with "new" stuff... But it's not 100% perfect most of the time

marble quartz
#

i just saw em on display, didn't really know how they worked

near gazelle
#

I mean, it's pretty damn close lol

#

I've seen some neat vintage stuff remade in FPGA

marble quartz
#

going off to bed

#

may the overlords grant me enough WU to keep my room warm through the night

near gazelle
#

G'night! Good luck!

unique sigil
#

@rich depot it is now completely setup and authorized ready to go

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just waiting for researchers to make some projects to throw on there ๐Ÿ˜„

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@rich depot it is now completely setup and authorized ready to go

green monolith
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pfft

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where is that server vid ?

unique sigil
#

@rich depot it is now completely setup and authorized ready to go

rich depot
#

NICE!!!!!

unique sigil
#

filmed most of it today @green monolith

green monolith
#

kk

rich depot
#

Legend!

green monolith
#

so see it in 2 weeks

unique sigil
#

waiting for some projects to be added

#

its FP this weekend

green monolith
#

with most of us not working

#

FP should be free this weekend!

#

<<

unique sigil
#

ahaha

rich depot
#

Nuh

unique sigil
#

rip FP bandwidth

#

ree

rich depot
#

although I should get free FP for being team leader jk jk

green monolith
#

stream it on mixer use MS's bandwidth!

rich depot
green monolith
#

make sure to update pfsense @unique sigil

unique sigil
#

wat

green monolith
#

2.4.5 released yesterday

unique sigil
#

oh nice

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poggers

green monolith
#

some bugfixes and FBSD update to 11.3

#

as 11.2 is EOL

#

your welcome before everyone hits it hard

unique sigil
#

ahahaha

rich depot
#

Well time to update.. RIP me guys!

near gazelle
#

Easy compute clustering ๐Ÿ™‚

green monolith
#

and here I am with my proxmox setup

near gazelle
#

It looks like I should be able to add as many cores as I can plug into the network, and it will distribute any CPU tasks across the entire network.

green monolith
#

go get 2x IBM X3850 X5s with 4 15 core CPUs each

near gazelle
#

So I'll have what is probably the first 40-core Atom CPU lol

green monolith
#

and bridge them so they act as 1 server

near gazelle
#

Once I get a switch big enough, anyway. I'll have to do my trial runs with an 8 port switch

green monolith
#

so 120 cores 240 threads

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you need a cheap 48 port switch?

near gazelle
#

Probably, but I know there's a few old 100mbps ones locally pretty cheap.

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These are Atom N2600 CPU's, 2c/4t @ 1.6ghz each

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So 80 cores if I can get them all connected lol

green monolith
#

your welcome

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52.50 + tax

near gazelle
#

That's not bad at all. But shipping time lol.. If I can't find one locally, I'll keep that in mind for sure.

green monolith
#

i have the LB6M

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cause 24 port 10G SPF+

near gazelle
#

Yeah, these boards only have gigabit anyway... But 100mbps would be okay for this application lol. I think there's a few around the corner for 10 bucks.

green monolith
#

ok if you want em to choke

near gazelle
#

Hmm there's a few 48 port Nortel gigabits a bit further of a drive, but only $30

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They might even deliver lol

green monolith
#

have em put it in a new pizza box

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for comic relief

near gazelle
#

Lol

#

Nice managed gigabit unit.. For only 30 bucks.. that's nuts

#

Nortel is pretty good quality too

#

Not a cisco, but shrugface

#

Oh, it even has PoE.. Bonus!

storm talon
#

Pelican and the other one you mentioned aren't really designed to run services

#

they're more for compiling code etc

near gazelle
#

It won't function as I expect, then? The host PC won't distribute the CPU load across the nodes?

storm talon
#

I could be wrong but my guess is no

#

I mean, there's only one way to find out innit?

near gazelle
#

It's going to be tried one way or another lol.. It even has a GUI, so easy mode, I guess.

#

I'm no stranger to the CLI, but when a GUI is there, why not?

storm talon
#

welp, now i'm interested

vale scroll
#

can you run folding on a computer without sse2

#

ive got boxes from the 80's and 90's that could provide a little assistance

storm talon
#

you could probably cobble it together using mmx

#

probably wouldn't work though

vale scroll
#

but what if i dont have mmx

ripe fossil
#

wish I could run folding on ARMv7. I've got twenty odroid xu4s with 160 cores combined

storm talon
#

is there no raspbian version?

ripe fossil
#

I couldn't find one

storm talon
#

can you run android on them

#

there's an apk ๐Ÿ˜‰

rich depot
#

f@h has an apk?

rich depot
#

oh that one, doesn't let you join a team tho right?

storm talon
#

i have no eartly idea

#

you'd probably have to dick around with the code

ripe fossil
#

well... the only reasonable way to deploy it across 20 nodes would be a docker image

#

i have k8s running on the cluster already

#

would like to avoid tearing that all down ๐Ÿ˜›

storm talon
#

that's the quick and drity way yea

#

I use plesk to manage my docker hosts

ripe fossil
#

I can make a docker image, I just can't find an armv7 f@h binary

storm talon
#

docker isn't hardware agnostic?

#

i've never tried to crossdress on it

vague flint
storm talon
#

Trying PelicanHPC now

#

it's janky

ripe fossil
#

yeah docker images aren't arch agnostic unfortunately

#

but you can use dockerx builders to cross compile pretty easily

storm talon
#

@vague flint WTF dude

#

is that some home made cooling setup

vague flint
#

lol yeah

#

box fan and carboard laying around

storm talon
#

cool. I'm just starting on using docker for anything. the only time I used it before was for discourse, and that's such a scary process

cursive sparrow
#

Jake are you an expert at folding?

odd barn
#

Got myself a good build going soon

#

Well itโ€™s a pretty old build

#

Itโ€™s basically an i7-6700K, RX 580 and 16GB of ram :p

storm talon
#

that's dope

vague flint
#

Nice. You'll probably be pushing 400-550k PPD with that system

#

Or maybe a little more. It seems AMD chips GPUs have better performance than Nvidia

odd barn
#

Thatโ€™s what I like to hear

#

Itโ€™s much better than my i5-6500T lol.

storm talon
#

uh, yea

#

it's a whole new gen and K variant on top of that

#

overclock the balls out of it

odd barn
#

Hahaha

vague flint
#

Crossfire linked a 2950X in pilot chat from Microcenter that's on sale for $500 right now. I think that'd be a good option for the PCIe lanes.

odd barn
#

Iโ€™m getting the PC for $500 so Iโ€™m hype

vague flint
#

Oddly my 650 Ti is apparently running PCIe 2.0 x4... which is odd

storm talon
#

weird

vague flint
#

Yeah. Might be a BIOS thing

#

I kinda get x4 because the pins on the pcb look like 1/2 of x16 spread all across the x16, but it's only a x8 slot, so maybe half of x8 pins would be x4? no idea

storm talon
#

entirely possible yea

#

less lanes

vague flint
#

I wonder if it is causing performance issues with folding, but I dunno if folding would really need all that bandwidth

storm talon
#

if you're completing wu's before the timeout then ur good

#

anything more than that is a bonus

vague flint
#

Yeah

#

650 Ti is usually 20 to 30 hours

storm talon
#

lol

#

(probably)

ripe fossil
#

man i've got a 24 sec TPF for CPU and 1m13s for GPU - are these different WUs or is my CPU really that much faster?

vague flint
#

Does anyone know if they talked about their F@H work server on WAN show?

storm talon
#

yea tpf is different for each wu

#

I only watch wan show when dennis is on

vague flint
#

lol

ripe fossil
#

tbh anthony is the manthony

#

idk if he's on wan show but he's dope

rich depot
#

I don't even watch wan show in the first place, as I just wait for whatever shows up on lmg clips

storm talon
#

Yeah truth

#

Linus drop tips needs to step their game up too

rich depot
#

time to pass out because its too hot in my bedroom

#

forgot I was folding for over a day straight

#

was confused as to why my fans were so ramped up

storm talon
#

@near gazelle two words for pelican: F#$*#KING Slow

#

Huston we have a problem

vague flint
#

Hopefully it goes online soon

storm talon
#

so like, 1/15th of the new petabyte project

vague flint
#

Lol

#

I hope it goes live soon

storm talon
#

it's listed, so that's a good sign.

vague flint
#

yeah

storm talon
#

1 more boys

#

They should make it so all LTT team members get WU's from their server

#

just sayin

gusty path
#

We getting attentions from the wan show boys!

unique sigil
#

shoutout from wan @rich depot

#

๐Ÿ˜„

rich depot
#

Nice!!!

ancient igloo
#

pretty nice ๐Ÿ™‚

rich depot
#

@unique sigil You guys are great... feel sorry for FAH sysadmins though

vague flint
#

yee

near gazelle
#

@storm talon I wasn't expecting it to be fast lol.. But did you get it up and going? Did you start the GUI?

unique sigil
#

ya

#

our server is getting deployed atm

rich depot
#

OOOOOOO

unique sigil
#

like literally getting a project uploaded rn

gusty path
#

Nice

silver wing
#

nice

gusty path
#

More WU for the grinder!

near gazelle
#

Half their bandwidth! Not bad. Probably worth 3-4 of the "official" servers as they sit.

silver wing
#

I would of thought the FAH servers had better connectivity etc

storm talon
#

That's SUPER generous! Thanks LTT! Thanks Jake!!!!!!!

rich depot
#

@unique sigil We make up around 25% of the whole FAH network atm

storm talon
#

pffft

thick holly
#

awww we were mentioned

storm talon
#

we gonna pass them today

vague flint
#

So when they said it was larger than the top 7 supercomputers combined, that was only at 470 PFLOPS. It's at 767 PFLOPS now

gusty path
#

nice

vague flint
mild kiln
storm talon
#

how long have you been on team

vague flint
#

About a week or so?

storm talon
#

nice

vague flint
#

almost 2 weeks

mild kiln
#

4 days ago for me I think

storm talon
#

I been on for 1.5d

vague flint
#

half that time was without my other PC, and sometimes I turned it off because I was still working out kinks

gusty path
mild kiln
#

yep 4 days for me

near gazelle
#

Hopefully that'll be over a million tomorrow โค๏ธ Now that I have my good rig running.

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That score is ~2 days on a FX6300 + GTX 750 lol

gusty path
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Getting the proper codethingerthing helps lots I think

near gazelle
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I'm really curious what my little cluster will do if/when I get it working lol

vague flint
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What's the specs on it?

near gazelle
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40 Atom N2600 CPUs (80c/160t) total @ 1.6ghz Lol

storm talon
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I tried it on Pelican

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no cigar

near gazelle
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Damn. I'll have to look for a different solution then

storm talon
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it installs fine and kicks a journalctl error on startup

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cant be bothered with it past that point

near gazelle
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Might need some troubleshooting? I'll dicker with it tomorrow on a 8 machine cluster. Have a 48 port gigabit managed switch coming for early next week.

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If I can't get Pelican working, I'll look at other cluster OS's

storm talon
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the cluster came up fine as per the instructions.

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yea for sure. let me know if you find another solution i'll throw some brainpower at it

near gazelle
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But F@H wouldn't work? that threw the journalctl?

storm talon
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yea

vague flint
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Weird question, but instead of a cluster, would it make sense to dockerize and deploy to each node?

storm talon
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and there was nothing in the error output

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dude I just run it straight up on debian minimal no docker

near gazelle
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The issue is that an Atom cpu from that era can't finish a WU in the time by itself.

vague flint
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Like if cluster doesn't work

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Oh I see

near gazelle
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So, by clusterizing, you can distribute a single WU across multiple CPUs

storm talon
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install fahclient, config it, add it to your local advanced client and control it there

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i'm already "clustered" in the sense i'm using vmware

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so I don't need further clustering

near gazelle
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The other issue is lack of dedicated storage, I need a PXE boot solution on top of everything

storm talon
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the pxe boot on pelican was indeed very good

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made a virtual switch, threw all the nodes on it, and they got booted right away

near gazelle
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I'll play with Pelican for a few hours, if I can't crack it in 4-5 hours, I'll search for alternatives.

storm talon
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don't expect it to perform real-time tho

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i did notice it was super laggy

near gazelle
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Clusters rarely do lol

storm talon
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yea

near gazelle
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These boards only have gigabit ethernet, and that's a good bit of overhead on that tiny Atom

vague flint
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Wouldn't a cluster kind of act like AMD's infinity fabric, but just gigabit speeds minus load on the network? lol

near gazelle
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Theoretically yes

vague flint
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Cause I know 1st gen TR (1950X, etc.) had horrible fabric, so I would assume clustering would be a lot slower if there's any sort of dependency on other threads.

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Cause I'm assuming that F@H isn't completely asynchronous

near gazelle
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Not sure how Pelican handles the threading, but that's the idea. I've never built a cluster before, it's more of a kill time during the quarantine experiment lol. I have a bunch of these little mini ITX atom boards, might as well see if I can do something neat with them, even if they end up not being very fast for it lol

vague flint
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Yeah lol

storm talon
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if you do get it to light up lemme know what you changed

near gazelle
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will do.

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Were you using the GUI or CLI?

storm talon
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gui

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wlel

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well

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gui but cli

near gazelle
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gotcha

storm talon
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control installed but viewer would not

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i'm building a model in temple

near gazelle
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Nice

storm talon
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this os is absolute madness though

near gazelle
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It is.

storm talon
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you gotta have some balls to do what Terry did though. brought the trs-80/commodore ethos to pc's

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zero bullshit

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reading up on that now

unique sigil
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LTT server is now live

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๐Ÿ˜„

vague flint
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My OC on afterburner keeps resetting AsunaPout

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YAY

near gazelle
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YAY! Maybe I'll get a CPU WU now lol

unique sigil
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Its just 1 project for the moment and I dont know if its a CPU or GPU project LOL

near gazelle
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I gotcha

vague flint
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I'll be waiting to get a WU ๐Ÿ™‚

near gazelle
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Is the process difficult? To set up a WU server, that is?

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Is it something you think the average person could handle, and do you think F@H would allow more servers to be added?

fair berry
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is there a way for us to specifically request that WU server?

vague flint
unique sigil
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dont think its ever going to be a public thing tbh

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needs a ton of storage

near gazelle
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greater than 10 tb?

unique sigil
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whats that url?

vague flint
unique sigil
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recommend is 50TB minmum

vague flint
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I sorted by storage, since you're the third largest server, lol

near gazelle
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Whooo... Wow

storm talon
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we'll, we're ready for ya. bring it on

unique sigil
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ahahaha

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oh

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some of these are little baby storage servers ahaha

storm talon
near gazelle
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I've got 16tb available, not gonna jump up to 50 any time soon lol

storm talon
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I can keep scaling for days

fair berry
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good lord larry

unique sigil
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so this server is 96TB of drives + 64GB RAM cache + 960GB Optane 905P cache

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works out to about 60-65TB usable

storm talon
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sick

unique sigil
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14 core CPU, 128GB of ram

near gazelle
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That's nice

storm talon
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I can't wait to see the stats

unique sigil
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didn't even know the stats page was a thing ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

near gazelle
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Couldn't get Seagate to donate another petabyte? ๐Ÿ˜‰

vague flint
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yep!

carmine yarrow
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so uhh, this is the first time i've gotten consistent work units

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it's evident that the LTT server was needed

storm talon
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holy snap i'm 100% utilized

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lets go

unique sigil
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only doing ~35-50mbit atm

fair berry
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full send haha

unique sigil
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of the 5gigabit it has allocated

carmine yarrow
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did the ISP ever respond to the call?

vague flint
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If you wanna check if you got work from the server, you can view it in the advanced view for "work server"

storm talon
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I'd say once you start accepting returns on wu's you will see a bigger spike.

vague flint
unique sigil
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lol yup

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the only project up on it is 16404 atm

vague flint
supple laurel
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hey i got a cpu job and it's from the LTT server!

carmine yarrow
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12 minutes up LMAO

unique sigil
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NICE

storm talon
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i have 8 jobs that are finishing within the hour

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should be hitting yall up soon

carmine yarrow
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2,014 public jobs!

supple laurel
vague flint
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It was at 3,200, I wonder why it went down

carmine yarrow
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1,870 now

vague flint
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Ohhhh

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I might be a queue of available jobs

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That are either ready to be collected or being worked on to be collected

carmine yarrow
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nice!

vague flint
storm talon
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lol I just showed my boss the specs of your server and he said "ok what the hell"

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6 more nodes coming

unique sigil
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LOL

storm talon
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we're folding "for the company" on spare resources

supple laurel
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@unique sigil get linus to do one last call out for the LTT server before he ends the show?

fierce steppe
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Let him know it's online

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If he isn't already aware

vague flint
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Let him know it's online and has already sent out a bunch of WUs, lol

fierce steppe
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too late ๐Ÿ˜„

rotund flume
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guys if i login on another computer wu with my username and passkey then all the point from that machine will add to my username right?

supple laurel
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yep

rotund flume
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thank you guys

storm talon
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did the server shit the bed

vague flint
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It looks like it lol

storm talon
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oof

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we broke it boys

frozen peak
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cool I got a job from the server

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it must be out of assignments ? lol

vague flint
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Maybe?

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The uptime number has increased, so it might be still online

supple laurel
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did we really already crash the server?

vague flint
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I don't think so

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probably just ran out of units to give

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Jake did say there's only one project on the server

hushed bobcat
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I have 1 job from the LTT server

vague flint
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same

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Jake! We need more projects CrabPls

storm talon
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oh does it go to sleep when there's no more work

vague flint
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probably

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It had 3,200, but quickly went down

unique sigil
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LOL

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all the jobs are gone now lmao

supple laurel
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FEED US MORE!!!

unique sigil
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they're trying to add more

vague flint
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Lol

fierce steppe
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That didn't take long haha

unique sigil
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only using 6GB of ram lmao

supple laurel
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we had jobs for all of 15mins?

unique sigil
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4 of the 6GB used is ram cache

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ZFS is poggers

vague flint
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I wonder if there's stats for how many WUs servers have given out, just like how we have points on XOC

storm talon
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I hope you installed glasswire on that Jake

hushed bobcat
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ohh is your L2 ARC the RAM cache?

vague flint
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We're about to pass Hardware.no for total points, maybe in the next day or two

storm talon
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easily

supple laurel
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i had hopes to break 3billilon points today with the new server coming online

vague flint
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Our distance from curecoin went from 2.1 years to 1.8 years in the past few hours. Hopefully that gets down to like... 1 month, lol

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I'm glad they gamified this

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perfect for this type of thing