they went even further beyond?
#folding-and-boinc
wintry dock
mild kiln
Linus might have dropped it already
small current
Past what they are on all the time
small current
Past what I assumed to be max
wintry dock
well now you know more about its limits i guess
small current
So hi from 12 30
hushed bobcat
@split cipher PCIE 2.0 8X
split cipher
oof
small current
The fans wont turn off
It has gone past 100c and needs to cool
But now I can't sleep
split cipher
how does it go over 100c??
split cipher
ah
hushed bobcat
@split cipher unlike mining it seems folding communicates quite a bit between the CPU and GPU, so you kinda need the bandwith
small current
Dying the whole time
hushed bobcat
PCIE 3.0 4X MIGHT be fine
small current
The gpu 72
split cipher
unforunately I am folding on an ex mining card (P106-090) and im using PCIe 1.1 8x
hushed bobcat
whats your estimated PPD?
small current
After 24 -9 (I can't do math I just woke up) hours
split cipher
200k :/
hushed bobcat
lets see thats about the same as a 1060 3GB right?
split cipher
mine has 6 GB but yeah
wicked swallow
Is anyone else only getting one or two work units per day?
split cipher
i dont think VRAM matters very much here
coarse citrus
ive had like 6-8 GPU WUs since this morning
small current
1060 max q 150mhz overclock 6gb here
split cipher
mine's a 090, not the 100
small current
50mhz cram oc
coarse citrus
but my card only takes an hour to do a WU
hushed bobcat
anyway you should be around 450-550k PPD according to this chart
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vcVoSVtamcoGj5sFfvKF_XlvuviWWveJIg_iZ8U2bf0/pub?output=html#
wicked swallow
@coarse citrus wow, mine just say ready and dont do anything for ages. I keep clicking Fold but nothing happens
split cipher
the P106-090 usually has 3 GB, mine has 6 GB, the P106-100 has 6 GB always
small current
Well I have done the thing that you must never do
coarse citrus
give it some time
wicked swallow
@coarse citrus it says next attempt in 3 minutes, I'm guessing itll find a new one?
small current
The fans where just no
split cipher
@wicked swallow you can also stop and start the service if you're currently doing nothing at all
small current
The i3 6006 u had variable fans
minor raptor
need help folding. the website to controle it wont stop refreshing
small current
Now goodnight
split cipher
use a diff browser
coarse citrus
it can take a while to get a WU sometimes like an hour or so
minor raptor
whats a WU?
wicked swallow
interesting
wintry dock
work unit?
coarse citrus
theres too many people ASKING AND NOT ENOUGH WORK
hushed bobcat
Work Unit
wintry dock
work unit
coarse citrus
oops caps
storm talon
those don't coint towards F@h tho
split cipher
still helping the cause 🤷♀️
hushed bobcat
Rosetta@ Home sends data to F@H
which helps F@H get more WU out
from what ive heard
but Rosetta is CPU only
wintry dock
tbh i don't like boinc
split cipher
boinc is harder than F@H but its still useful
wicked swallow
split cipher
boinc runs fine so 🤷♀️
wintry dock
dual boot to windows or linux?
split cipher
i have windows to dual boot to but i can't be on windows enough to be very useful
coarse citrus
hey just broke 2 million points
hushed bobcat
just put together a list on Newegg for a nice folding machine
just for fun
4x 2060 supers, and a Threadripper 3970x
$4600
hushed bobcat
well you can in benchmarks
dreamy hazel
heh
stark bough
3rd gen Ryzen to 1st gen TR passmark
storm talon
ya but I'm talking strictly number equivalent
stark bough
ignoring pcie lanes of course.
dreamy hazel
and pcie4.0 if it ever comes to use
trail night
add the 9 3900 on that comparison please
green dove
I keep getting WUs, but they're for human oxytocin receptors.
stark bough
holy hell that power cost though
dreamy hazel
yes pls
stark bough
not 3600x, 3600
hushed bobcat
trail night
thx
stark bough
the main disadvantage of TR4 is the dead end mobo.
dreamy hazel
apart from the pricetag, 3900x is such a nice machine... not regretting the purchase
stark bough
stop making me regret not getting the 3900x, even though i know ill never fully utilize it
trail night
Same as delta ^
dreamy hazel
I can literally play VR games with a mixed reality setup (which is cpu heavy) and stream it in OBS at 1080p60 on slow preset, CPU encoded
green dove
ugh, I'm gonna splash out for a 3770x equivalent in the next gen.... excited to see what that brings if it ever shows up
stark bough
main reason to get a 3700x is so i can do 6 core fold CPU while 2 cores are for webbrowsing.
green dove
(software dev, unnecessary spend just for the hell of it)
stark bough
and im already getting a good 80-90 fps on games so im willing to make due.
stark bough
maybe if i KNEW i was going to get into 3d modeling and production, i would have gone ful 3900x
dreamy hazel
tbf mobius, you can use 15 out of 16 threads with these
hushed bobcat
its kinda hard to get a 4 dual slot PCIE board
dreamy hazel
i'm using 23 threads just for F@H, and i'm not feeling any lag whatsoever
stark bough
i need to quantify my power consumption too.
dreamy hazel
that's another topic heh
stark bough
i wonder if anyone else is enabling/disabiling cores and quantifying watt consumption per core enabled 😛
dreamy hazel
but with folding in the background your electricity bills will not be kind whatsoever
stark bough
i made the excuse 3 weeks ago that i needed the heat, but billing cycle is coming up and im not looking forward to it
plus weather is being a bit more kind, but theres still cloud cover (we got solar)
not to mention there isnt enough WU, so im going to hold off.
dreamy hazel
eww, evga
stark bough
Do I lose points for dl'ing a job at say 1 AM, and holding the job till 10 am to fold?
dreamy hazel
blasphemy
trail night
Free GPU
stark bough
cause i cant get a job at 10 am
dreamy hazel
it'll probably lose credit over the time it's being held
trail night
No you dont, each job give you a specific amount of credit, but Since you are holding the job you might lose possible future credit after that job
hushed bobcat
@stark bough the Points you get is counted by how fast you do the job
if you look at your advanced viewer it will show "Base Credit"
thats how many points you would get if that job took 24 hours to complete
doing it faster nets you more points
trail night
I dont think thats accurate, idk I tested changing the clock of the gpu during a job and extended it and It gave me the same amount of Credit.
dawn gazelle
I just heard Linus say in a video:
"Not for any practical reason, but just to show how big our front-mounted swinger is"
And I remembered why I watch his videos.
hushed bobcat
i dont think changing the clock is enough of a difference
trail night
I meant the time changed from 1hr to 9 hours
stark bough
@hushed bobcat Yeah but does depreciation start at time of recieving the job, or on initialization of the task?
hushed bobcat
but ive seen where it fails to send the job back to the server and my Estimated Credit goes down every minute
stark bough
i notice that atr times its harder to recieve a job around the time everyone is up
trail night
While it sends a job the credit always go down per second
stark bough
i need to start scheduling my jobs when the solar is producing
hushed bobcat
@stark bough you have a time stamp of when you received the job
trail night
And add it on your actual score
stark bough
thats what i figured.
hushed bobcat
i assume the timer starts then
stark bough
then again, submitting a project late is better than never getting it in the first place. thanks 6th grade procratination
storm talon
just got a shiver... i guess my gpu wu is done
dreamy hazel
my cpu hasnt had a WU in 12hrs
<.<
i find it funny how, when it does have something to do, my cpu pulls in more PPD than my 2nd pc's GPU
dreamy hazel
my 3900X out PPD's my GTX 960
hushed bobcat
whats your PPD and how many threads?
dreamy hazel
3900x has 24 threads
trail night
Idk My GPU is not working. And my GPU itself its at 3M PPD
dreamy hazel
running 23, it gives between 300 and 350k PPD
hushed bobcat
i meant how many do you have assigned
dreamy hazel
even my GTX 1060 outPPDs my cpu though, it does 450-500k
hushed bobcat
thats about the same as an RX 580
dreamy hazel
without costing more than the entire rest of my pc alone
dreamy hazel
damn!
rugged glade
stark bough
and since GPU workooads seem to be more avaliable, it works to our advantage
dusty hemlock
Somebody pin this man, this is insane
dreamy hazel
think the highest PPD i've had with my 2 home pcs together was 1,9m
dusty hemlock
Its golf, lower is better
trail night
I have a pc without PSU and same specs
hushed bobcat
this is my record so far
trail night
I should finish it to get more points
rugged glade
they wont give me a WU 😦
trail night
4pcs only 2m PPD?
hushed bobcat
all i have left in the house is an old Core 2 Quad
yea 2.1 mil
my main gaming PC is doing all the work really
1.6-1.8 mil on my 1080Ti
hushed bobcat
Aztech is about 120k PPD
Antec-Server is about 140k PPD
hushed bobcat
Thinkpad is like 12k PPD
stark bough
i dont know if i can undervolt a 4790 on a z97 board.
hushed bobcat
I'm looking at some GPU's on eBay, if i get them i should be able to add another 800k-1mil PPD easy
dreamy hazel
not getting a single WU for 23thread, but when I split my cpu up like that i get WUs rather quickly
stark bough
anyone foldong on an egpu?
hushed bobcat
you mean iGPU?
stark bough
nope. egpu
hushed bobcat
or do you mean external?
stark bough
i got a nuc with a tb3 interface, and other laptops in the house.
figure i might as well look into folding with it.
been putting it off for a while.
hushed bobcat
well i would think it would work fine
but i havent heard of anyone doing that
so i cant say for sure
stark bough
pcie x4. i know pcie x1 has problems with just feeding video cards.
dreamy hazel
it is worth a try
stark bough
yeah in theory it works.
hushed bobcat
TB3 should be just enough bandwith
dreamy hazel
i mean, most gpus are useful for something
hushed bobcat
as long as its not like a 2080 or higher
@dreamy hazel i read somewhere that Odd numbered cores have a harder time getting WU's for some reason
try a single 22 thread slot maybe?
odd barn
I'm really happy
dreamy hazel
23t is what it sets up automatically when you're on a 24t cpu
odd barn
A lot of the Cancer research F@H is doing is also getting done too
One of the WU's is on clone 266 and generation 12
That's amazing
dreamy hazel
i've found there to be difficulties with the sending of results when setting all threads up to do something
hushed bobcat
wow my 1080Ti just finished and got another WU right away
dreamy hazel
this is what my i5-3570K has been working on for the past 11 hours
storm talon
a wee little protein
hushed bobcat
actually it downloaded the new one while uploading the complete one
vague flint
I just split everything down further from 6 and 8 threads to mostly 4s and 3s. The moment I made 3 3-thread slots they all got work immediately. Lol
dreamy hazel
that's what it's supposed to look like when the distribution is able to catch up
vague flint
stark bough
storm talon
yea dark, the quad core is the sweet spot rn
stark bough
dreamy hazel
so that's what the wee little protein is on
stark bough
sometimes i go full dunning kruger and forget what exactly affinity and kinease means to people.
dreamy hazel
nothing of concern, right? 
pine cradle
Damm, I don't have now any alternative to upload this project, the 11781.
It defeats the purpose whether you have fast PC but have utterly the worst internet here in the Philippines
dreamy hazel
crap this thing is hungry
vague flint
I'm wondering if spreading the work out across cores also alleviates the servers a bit more? Like, I would think they'd make smaller WUs and can issue them more frequently right?
And I'm hitting my 2m mark like before, but with 17 less threads overall
stark bough
lots of small jobs typically have more 'overhead' though
dreamy hazel
and it's not like they're developing the small tasks quicker
actually they have a shitload of huge tasks that they're breaking down for distribution
...from my understanding
vague flint
So it should actually be faster to have larger WU? I.E: 1 8-thread slot would be faster overall than 2 4-thread slots?
pine cradle
^
vague flint
Interesting
dreamy hazel
am I the only one who hates discord's font for the pathetic ^
vague flint
I'll leave it like I have it now. It seems I can get more jobs, and based on compute power used I'm getting more points/power, but idk if that's just extra bonus or something
Yeah it's so damn tiny
pine cradle
My last GPU project was like 5 hour, compared to my first project that took 9 hours with OC
dreamy hazel
I noticed by only utilizing 3/4th of my threads, the general PPD my cpu has is going up, because it has more overhead to OC
rocky otter
Hey guys I've had a Send at 100% in my work queue for a few hours, both CPU and GPU have since gone onto other WUs. Is it a problem that this process is stuck at 100% and not finishing or going away?
ETA is unknown
vague flint
I've noticed mine sometimes do the same thing:
dreamy hazel
I've had one that for whatever reason took 4 hours to upload
vague flint
Right now it's at 100%. There might be some sort of process/verification that they forgot to program for, or just don't show in the client
vague flint
Alright, I guess I gotta turn on my A/C. It just suddenly went from like 35F at night to 60F 
CPU is up about 6C
dreamy hazel
have you restarted the client? sometimes needs a little nudge
rocky otter
Yeah I have
vague flint
Okay windows, just don't screenshot I guess.
dreamy hazel
the system aswell?
rocky otter
Oh, I have not. I'll do that
odd barn
So looks like 1 new server was added but it isn't up yet
dreamy hazel
looking forward to what's it going to be like once there's enough WUs for everyone again
odd barn
I think given the raw performance of some people's PC's, we may have the same issue
but I don't see it as an "issue" if I'm honest
dreamy hazel
i doubt this one server will change much
i meant for the point in future when there's enough WUs for everyone again
oh
storm talon
I'm sure f@h is scrambling rn to spin up servers
dreamy hazel
probably like in this moment, where i'm not even done uploading one WU and the next one has already started processing
storm talon
it's honestly the best kind of problem to have, as long as no one keeps hammering the servers every 10 sec and keeps running on their timers
storm talon
supply and command. we supplied now they need to command 😉
dreamy hazel
could set a reset spam penalty
storm talon
i've been folding/boinc and stuff for years now, it's always more workers than work, even on the industrial side
one of my clients who provides hpc for bioinformatics estimated he's sitting about 50/50 on utilization on a yearly basis. but he also said it's feast or famine
dreamy hazel
idk what boinc is
rocky otter
kajo try pausing then hitting fold again
The servers are really low on WUs but if you refresh it you may get one
dreamy hazel
it's just their servers being choked for distribution capacity
vapid sapphire
i can never get them on GPU
always get one CPU
my friend's gotten loads
is that normal
swear i should have gotten at least some
dreamy hazel
have you tried removing and re-adding your gpu in the configiuration settings
looks like it might be bugged out
vapid sapphire
ive tried even reinstalling the software
odd barn
Have you tried turning it off and on again
dreamy hazel
then i have no clue
odd barn
Click GPU core indices
and then click ok
You probably need a separate one for the GPU slot
vapid sapphire
ah
dreamy hazel
try again
it's because you didn't save between removing and readding the gpu in the configuration
storm talon
vapid sapphire
ok
storm talon
if you wanna stress test your ha cluster on vsphere this is a perfect way
pine cradle
Damn, I don't even know how many times this upload failed.
vapid sapphire
dreamy hazel
no luck?
vapid sapphire
all these just went to unknown now
dreamy hazel
takes a minute
vapid sapphire
1 min til next attempt now 🤞
dreamy hazel
yeah, WUs are still scarce
vestal anvil
I think they ran outta WU again, my college just loaded all of their servers to Folding
so....yeah
lol
dreamy hazel
heh
storm talon
12 hour fold
vapid sapphire
gpus
dreamy hazel
6core here
storm talon
yea the higher core work is finally coming in
dreamy hazel
it is?
storm talon
seems to be, my proteins are getting bigger and longer to solve
vapid sapphire
i have 3x 2080ti, 2x 2080s, 2x 2070s and 2x 2060s all ready to fold these bad bois
vestal anvil
Same here, I just have to wait for a new WU cause I just finished a 12 hour
dreamy hazel
I now have 3 6core machines running because nothing was coming in for 23 or even 12
storm talon
i retooled my whole cluster
instead of 4 machines at 32 cores i did 32 machines at 4 cores
vapid sapphire
are you guys doing all cpu?
dreamy hazel
i've got 2 home pcs running, all I have is a GTX 960 and a 1060
storm talon
I have 3 data centers sitting 10-20% idle rn because all our clients are off work.
dreamy hazel
if you want to share, i would gladly take any of your cards to put to use in my machines @vapid sapphire
storm talon
I have cpu cycles, so that's what i am able to share
vapid sapphire
are you in UK?
vapid sapphire
hmm
storm talon
germany eh
dreamy hazel
yeah
vapid sapphire
dreamy hazel
a 2080ti alone does 10x the points as my 3900x
storm talon
storm talon
prost deyta
finite anvil
@dreamy hazel what kinda points is the 2080ti pulling?
dreamy hazel
it's just the distribution servers being choked on WUs
wicked swallow
Thats what I was thinking
dreamy hazel
i heard of people pulling 3,1m with 2080Tis
dreamy hazel
my 3900x pulls 310k-350k
storm talon
i got 1.5mil off my 1080 yesterday
dreamy hazel
i run 3900x and gtx 1060
storm talon
I run a 2600x absolutely love that cpu
dreamy hazel
don't judge me either
vapid sapphire
heh
finite anvil
I have a 2600 love it to bits
vapid sapphire
nice chip
vapid sapphire
rip
dreamy hazel
i'm aircooled
storm talon
can't be bothered when i have 100+ cpu's running on free power
vapid sapphire
had a h100i my friend gave me but i took 1 look at the mounting and put it back in the box
dreamy hazel
lmao
storm talon
vapid sapphire
stock cooler 100% folding
storm talon
anyone recognize the brand from that?
dreamy hazel
definitely not
storm talon
it's a POS whatever it is, single 120mm
vapid sapphire
think i have an electric room heater of the same brand 😂
does look like the back of a heater
storm talon
nah
idk wtf it is
i bought this pc built by a home gamer who ran into some hard times
it had a i3 1300x and a gtx1060 6gb in it
vapid sapphire
did you mean r3?
storm talon
r3 yea
vapid sapphire
decent rig ig
storm talon
i'm after putting a 2600x, 16gb of vengance pro and a 1080ti amp extreme 11gb in it
vapid sapphire
i almost splashed out on this ryzen 3900 bundle
lemme see if i can pull it up
this one
storm talon
i play games and record them and put them on the internet for people to make fun of, so i needed a more better rig
dreamy hazel
vapid sapphire
i play minecraft for 40 mins a day idk what im buying stuff for
wheat lynx
that red pcb irks me
dreamy hazel
yep, same
wheat lynx
does it get hot?
dreamy hazel
could be so beautifully sleek and all black
storm talon
plastidip it
dreamy hazel
the red one is just an usb expansion card
wheat lynx
i was gonna say paint on the backside
vapid sapphire
founders edition dont have rgb right?
storm talon
amp extreme does lol
wheat lynx
Case cost $35, but with psu shroud and window, it's awesome
vapid sapphire
i remember reading that they have the connections for it on founders
storm talon
all I know is this bitch takes almost 300w
vapid sapphire
metal box is a metal box end of the day @wheat lynx 😛
vapid sapphire
we have company called CiT in UK, dont think they exist anywhere else really
wheat lynx
fans alone would've cost me allmost as much
storm talon
I mean at the end of the day as long as you can do what you need to do, the airflow works, and all that. you're fine
dreamy hazel
vapid sapphire
they make flashy looking cases super cheap
dreamy hazel
bright ass LED strips
storm talon
I've had banger pc's that were in stupid random cases
storm talon
as long as it's not a total eyesore
wheat lynx
DIYPC makes some of the best and worst cases in my opinion
dodge the bullets and you're golden
storm talon
I can NOT wait to get out of this inwin
vapid sapphire
oh diypc is CiT
storm talon
its too small
wheat lynx
oh...
dreamy hazel
Fractal is the way to go
storm talon
was thinking just go with protocase
vapid sapphire
CiT F3 == DIYPC F2
dreamy hazel
So much goddamn space
storm talon
3d print my own air channels
wheat lynx
well i've got the DIYPC BG-01
storm talon
that's a nice case for 40 bucks ngl
wheat lynx
highly reccomend
dreamy hazel
yeah, for the price, not bad
wheat lynx
yo ujust gotta get past the cheap things like the fact the side panels warp a bit when not secured
vapid sapphire
CiT rainbow 7
dreamy hazel
I've had my fair share of supercheap cases though
vapid sapphire
idk what DIYPC call this
its £35
new
and it comes with rgb fans
how can you say no
stark bough
i love how the circular rgb logo implys it 'supports rgb', but its always shit software.
vapid sapphire
this one doesnt use software 😛
stark bough
and it not guranteed to work with anything you have in your system
wheat lynx
not mine, but put my second system in this case
stark bough
like that one dumb visualizer case panel linus saw in shenzhen?
storm talon
is that a frikkin dimension
wheat lynx
yup
storm talon
wow
wheat lynx
standard aTX mobo mounts with slight modification
storm talon
yea i was gonna sk
wheat lynx
meaning cutting out the cooler mount
vapid sapphire
psu in those isnt standard too right
storm talon
no they are not
wheat lynx
the older dell cases have mostly standard stuff
psu on top, but standard
usb standard
vapid sapphire
super silly of dell
wheat lynx
front panel, standard
dreamy hazel
I can't say I regret paying 120€ on a case to have an actual proper dampening, decent cablemanagement space and also a proper means of airflow
vapid sapphire
i had a precision T1700 that got scrapped because PSU died and theyre a pita to find
wheat lynx
that why i hate newe prebuilts by ell and hp and the like
vapid sapphire
shame because their business laptops are super easy to fix
storm talon
yea they are really good
dreamy hazel
i never fancied getting a laptop, really
storm talon
I made the mistake of buying a ROG gaming laptop
dreamy hazel
i game, and gaming laptops are honestly a joke
storm talon
garrrrrbage
storm talon
i sold it for 700 bucks on kijiji and buddy was not happy with it either
felt bad but i was like hey, it was sold as is
vapid sapphire
my Zephy S had some weird issue where it sounded like there was something in the fan
storm talon
i had the Strix
vapid sapphire
super off
dreamy hazel
a rig is either meant to deliver power or to last long and not overheat, can't have both really
wheat lynx
Old mobos with CPUs. Would fold, but they'd die trying
dreamy hazel
i have triple 1080p60 21" monitors
storm talon
dell had some kick ass "desktop replacement" laptops back in the day do they still make those
wheat lynx
@vapid sapphire what do you know about the walmart laptop Linus featured?
dreamy hazel
they're shit, but i don't have money for replacement
storm talon
my buddy had a full size desktop gtx760 in his
storm talon
it was like 17" and 4" thick tho
dreamy hazel
yeah, those may be good for gaming, but it's also ridiculous to use that as a laptop, rather just get a PC directly
wheat lynx
that's my kinda laptop
dreamy hazel
cheaper anyways
gritty shale
so does anyone know how points work? how is it that my cpu only gets me 50,000 points per day, but my GPU gets more than a million?
storm talon
those numbers seem right Ari
wheat lynx
just the way they're designed
vapid sapphire
theyre more made for portable easy to carry AIOs ig
wheat lynx
gpu's can do harder ones slower
snow fractal
we've broken the exaflop barrier :o
storm talon
lol Kajo I've got straps for my desktop... I been hauling my shit around for 20 years now. Still get weird looks at starbucks but wtv
gritty shale
yea it just seems weird
wheat lynx
@snow fractal Where you see that?
gritty shale
i just dont understand i guess
dreamy hazel
exaflop? damn
gritty shale
like do CPUs really do that much less work than a GPU does on these workloads?
vapid sapphire
snow fractal
forum tech news and that
storm talon
Ari, gpu's were designed for parallel processing, therefor they are exponentially faster/better than cpu processing
vapid sapphire
would it be worth throwing my gpu in a different pc to see if i can get it to fold on there?
storm talon
that's why amd's calling them APU's now instead of GPU
Why isn't it folding in ur current pc
wheat lynx
cpus can do everything okayly well, while gpus can do limited things really freakin fast
vapid sapphire
dont think i ever had it folding
storm talon
have you tried turning it off and back on again
storm talon
oh ur running on linux?
storm talon
you shouldn't need anything except the default driver for your card
vapid sapphire
hmm
i havent tried update nvidia
lemme try update driver
how do i do that lul
too used to AMD
wheat lynx
nvidia website?
storm talon
wtf is omen by hp
wheat lynx
ive always downloaded it. is there a radeon thing i dont know about
storm talon
ohhhh lol
mild kiln
500k baby
vapid sapphire
i.... dont think i ever put a proper driver on here
storm talon
idk I would just install gfe and let that update ur drivers
dreamy hazel
there's a sort of manager for drivers, geforce experience
storm talon
^
wheat lynx
@mild kiln Dammit
trail night
dreamy hazel
vapid sapphire
lets hope this fixes it 🤞
dreamy hazel
and that's on a way inferior machine
wheat lynx
what specs?
dreamy hazel
got 2 pcs
ryzen 9 3900x /w gtx 1060
core i5-3570K /w gtx 960
wheat lynx
much better than i got
stark bough
can i take a break now?
wheat lynx
no
vapid sapphire
wowee i never did put drivers on
vapid sapphire
🤞 🤞 🤞 🤞 🤞 🤞 🤞 🤞 🤞
wheat lynx
on my HD5450 it couldn't find it work cuz it was so underpowered
stark bough
gritty shale
wooohooo i got a CPU and GPU WU!
storm talon
ah shit we're back down to 6
wheat lynx
we've almost got 1/3 of folders
storm talon
she's a tight race boys
wheat lynx
that used to be a month
dreamy hazel
got all my resources working on getting LTT all the way up there
Hope they will pay me back in assisting with my electricity bills, those are gonna be nasty
trail night
neh
wheat lynx
Here's my dimension with ryzen inside™
storm talon
lol windows xp home
awesome sleeper build man
those are great if anyone break in to your house
stark bough
lol ssd just sleeping on the floor like a pleb. give it a mat or something
wheat lynx
In the future I wanna put some actually good hardware inside, but for now it'll live with a 1200 and an HD 5450
mild kiln
yes
dreamy hazel
at least not cyanoacrylate
mild kiln
I always keep thinking I should leave my Q6600 on overnight but don't and turn it off
storm talon
I would go all out and get a 2080supre in there
mild kiln
now I do cause it's doing a day CPU of Cancer
wheat lynx
my friend had to pause his folding cuz he couldn't sleep from the 2 770's going ham
dreamy hazel
i need 2 windows open 24/7 if i want my pcs to run and not overheat
wheat lynx
dreamy hazel
one of the main reasons I went for a decent case for my current PC: Silence. I can hardly hear it with all fans to max.
past surge
LTT is crushing it!
dreamy hazel
heh
i mean, my 3900x is at 81C
gpu at 77
the exhaust air is pretty darn hot, could use it to dry my hair after a shower
it would probably melt in your case
mine has a lot of airflow
storm talon
I really wish f@h had snmp support
dreamy hazel
storm talon
would be nice to be able to graph my cluster performance
dreamy hazel
absolutely
wheat lynx
i might replace my exhaust fan at some point as the 2 front push air, but the exhaust barely pushes anything and it's toasty
dreamy hazel
would be sick to see those graphs out there
storm talon
that looks good m8
wheat lynx
oh boy
storm talon
you're one step further ahead lol
wheat lynx
only 1 gpu?
dreamy hazel
"only 1"
vapid sapphire
8 more once i get 1 working
wheat lynx
im double checking that's all igot
storm talon
did you restart your pc after drivers?
vapid sapphire
yeah
storm talon
not really sure why a 2080 is asking for opencl
wheat lynx
it's not seeing the gpu apparently
vapid sapphire
storm talon
well it is now
wheat lynx
try changing cuda-index to 0
dreamy hazel
nah, don't
dreamy hazel
it should work
storm talon
I would just reinstall the client again now that drivers are working
remove %appdata% start over
wheat lynx
👍
vapid sapphire
etc 24h?
wheat lynx
wil ldrop soon
dreamy hazel
takes a minute to calculate eta
vapid sapphire
thanks lads :DDDDD
dreamy hazel
credits to Larry on this one :D
wheat lynx
hold up
dreamy hazel
and the folding team # set to 223518
wheat lynx
i was the one that said set index to 0
dreamy hazel
cuda index is what you said lul
vapid sapphire
gonna race past my friend and then put some more gpus in 😛
dreamy hazel
also the main issue was that he had no drivers installed for the gpu in the first place
wheat lynx
he's got an nvidia card, cuda should work
vapid sapphire
yeah no the lack of drivers was SO my fault 😂
dreamy hazel
the -1 setting always means the client is picking standard options
it doesn't mean anything is deactivated
wheat lynx
true
storm talon
dude I had to update my bios and chipset yesterday dw about it
vapid sapphire
to whoever asked what points per day a 2080ti can pull
storm talon
wait for it
storm talon
2080 should pull 2mill
storm talon
1080
vapid sapphire
its only using 45% gpu
dreamy hazel
:p
vapid sapphire
nice 1 msoft
wheat lynx
taskmanager tends to measure accessibilty, and as it's running at low priority, taskmanager sees it as free
so it's not wrong.....
but not right
dreamy hazel
yeah
taskmanager also has the CUDA view, which shows nearly 100% load too
but hwinfo is generally the better choice
storm talon
still pumping 240w on folds
vapid sapphire
ive only got a 650w psu in rn, thats gonna have to go when i shove more power into it
dreamy hazel
welp, really gotta sleep now
wheat lynx
gn
dreamy hazel
have a good one
wheat lynx
i jsut realized, the wikipedia page on exascale computing needs to be updated
vapid sapphire
sure thing
wheat lynx
we may have just made history
vapid sapphire
'an exascale computer would have processing power on the order of the estimated processing power of the human brain at the neural level'
that is scary
wheat lynx
we're already simulating atomic simulations
dreamy hazel
imagine a project like this, but just simulating a human brain
vapid sapphire
bruh
wheat lynx
ive just read the entire article and realized half of it is now slightly wrong
vapid sapphire
if brain so powerful, why can't i just fold with my brain smh
wheat lynx
"In June 2014, the stagnation of the Top500 supercomputer list had observers question the possibility of exascale systems by 2020."
hah
we broke that
vapid sapphire
idk if you can call F@H a 'system'
wheat lynx
it's a system
timber gale
Overclocking human brains
dreamy hazel
it is technically a WAN scale cluster
which I would very much consider to be a system
stark bough
does it rely on interconnected components to perform a role?
dreamy hazel
kind of
stark bough
aka "Where the shit are my WUs"
stark bough
Try folding without a PSU in your Computer System
dreamy hazel
or probably more like the token-ring
stark bough
wheat lynx
hows this sound
The exaFLOP barrier was first broken in March of 2020 by the Folding@home project, used to fold proteins for medical research.
storm talon
vapid sapphire
make sure to put links n shizz
storm talon
idk how that'll do but my office pc is now folding
wheat lynx
im working on finding links for everything
eternal oar
dang i cant seem to get WUs for both my CPU and GPU since yesterday ._.
trail night
^
storm talon
yep, seen
wheat lynx
there's a few other things that need to be changed , but i'm going to leave that to people who can word those complex things better
plus i gotta go to bed
bye yall, have fun folding
storm talon
finite anvil
My Vega 64 seems a little weak RIP 1.5M ppd
storm talon
1.5m ain't nothing to shrug at
forest sapphire
rancid flume
mac miners
for some reason my mac is mining faster on medium setting rather than high
stark bough
maybe power
rancid flume
i finally got 5 people to start running f@h on their laptops
man the korean community is so fucking ignorant of world issues
"if we good, we cool"
"why do should i lend out for some coronavirus research since our health system can already handle it fine?"
Jesus christ
storm talon
well
I mean from the videos I saw about korea, they don't have a huge hoarding issue, their govt really got ahead of it all
can't really blame em for being blissfully unaware
rancid flume
yeah and that is despite some initial fuckups by the gov.
storm talon
they're not looking at empty grocery store shelves and shit
rancid flume
but this isn't just limited to coronavirus. koreans in general don't give a fuck about the outside world
storm talon
idk if I would limit that to just korea tho
eternal oar
yea lol
rancid flume
i mean its pretty serious here
storm talon
any society that is isolated as such would be in the same situation
the newfoundland population is kinda the same, not much infections, no one is worried... yet.
what people need to grasp in their heads is this is just starting
rancid flume
I mean Korea culturally does not value globalism
storm talon
can you blame em?
rancid flume
yeah lots
storm talon
dealing with what's his face up north for umpteen years
rancid flume
im watching companies trying to enter the global market using "tech from korea, made in korea 100%" and they're failing because they don't meet international standards of quality
storm talon
anyways. this isn't a political channel so I will digress. I respect your opinion and am going to stop here.
rancid flume
k
eternal oar
sooo my friend who i encourage to fold just decided to register
and immediately got gpu WU
meanwhile im sitting idle since >12 hours ago on gpu
storm talon
did you pause and restart
i haven't gotten a gpu in a couple hours but i had 2 or 3 today
floral wave
I actually got a CPU for the first time in days
arctic sand
i just downloaded and signed up, is this going correctly?
storm talon
yes, did you get a passkey?
arctic sand
sure did
storm talon
welcome to the team then bud 🙂
arctic sand
😄
floral wave
Hey we're up to 4th
floral wave
I dunno, could be done
storm talon
anything is possible
arctic sand
should i leave this on Any to help with COVID-19?
dusty hemlock
Yes, any for COVID
floral wave
so random question, can you control a PC from a different one?
dusty hemlock
Yes, remote access
floral wave
Like if I'm on my laptop at work can I pause and start my PC at home from the web control
storm talon
yea leave it on any
floral wave
Do I have do anything to set that up, and how do I do it?
storm talon
it'll pick up new covid wu's that way
dusty hemlock
@floral wave You need to download the control from the website, get that running. That lets you have more control over clients. Next you have to setup remote access on the PC you want to control. Can control it as long as their on the same network, either home or VPN
main mist
TeamViewer
dusty hemlock
Or teamviewer but thats the lame way
floral wave
lol
floral wave
I guess I'll have to look into it over the weekend
storm talon
only 2 hosts idle rn
dusty hemlock
Super easy once they're on the same network. If you dont have experience, VPN can be a pain to setup your own
stark bough
VPNs are a pain to setup for first timers, and you still want to monitor them
storm talon
yea they can be a pain in the dick for sure
stark bough
Last thing you want to do is set up a “VPN” but configure it wrong and basically make your home network avaliable for anyone
dusty hemlock
Free tier AWS box, openvpn, and an elastic IP. 50 cents a month for the IP and thats it
stark bough
In a way, most people are asking for some sort of cloud based, single credential remote monitoring solution.
storm talon
i have no problem with the remote client
tbh ppl could use this as an opportunity on how to self educate on the cloud and how it all connects
not like ya got anything else to do lol
stark bough
Same. Just saying a lot of the questions are asking about being able to monitor via WAN, not LAN.
Lol I know right
Time to learn about network infrastructure
Looks like I’m pausing CPU folding on one of my machines till next month.
eternal oar
sooo my friend who i encourage to fold just decided to register
my friend's PPD wowie
stark bough
Anyone aware of a table of GPU/CPU Points per Watt?
storm talon
connecting remotes via WAN vs LAN should be no harder than forwarding the correct ports on the sending side
however, a lot of people who are not power users are suddenly joining the folding community
storm talon
I would really love it if the f@h client had an api
stark bough
but got to educate and have reasonable expectations
storm talon
relying on the stats page is kinda bleh
but got to educate and have reasonable expectations
@stark bough Exactly this
stark bough
I want to auto generate charts comparing groups
It’s kind of a kludge doing a side by side in two different windows comparing trends of LTT vs other groups
storm talon
they can't even keep their front end from 502'ing let alone a real time api
stark bough
For the most part people just getting into this should focus on setting up remote monitoring on a LAN
marble quartz
oh ya is remote monitoring from android a thing
storm talon
not that I know of
stark bough
Unless they have ‘advanced ‘networking knowledge I don’t feel comfortable having them open up ports for remote monitoring via VPN
storm talon
same Mobius
stark bough
Next thing you know they DMZ their main rig
storm talon
I'm very hesitant to provide anything other than basic setup on lan
pine cradle
My work is becoming a waste because of my fckuing very slow internet.
stark bough
plus any config a they make to their network they might forget to reverse once they get bored of folding
storm talon
I know what I'm doing 40 nodes, all monitored thru openvpn
stark bough
if they want to learn it, sure
storm talon
absolutely agree
stark bough
but it’s like showing a level 3 novice a level 30 raid dungeon
storm talon
I think ppl just see all the flexing from power users and wanna do that too
stark bough
You should level up before even trying to do the dungeon, but don’t try to solo it
storm talon
which is fine, but not recommended
dusty hemlock
Whats considered a power user lol
marble quartz
A power user is a user of computers, software and other electronic devices, who uses advanced features of computer hardware, operating systems, programs, or websites which are not used by the average user.
stark bough
People who are used to a CLI for one
dusty hemlock
TIL
stark bough
if you can’t explain the problem to a rubber duck....
marble quartz
A power user may not have extensive technical knowledge of the systems they use[6] and may not be capable of computer programming or system administration, but is rather characterized by the competence or desire to make the most intensive use of computer programs or systems.
stark bough
arctic sand
getting toasty in here
dusty hemlock
69, nice
stark bough
@marble quartz Key words there is competence or desire. Otherwise they’re no better than script kiddies
dusty hemlock
We're all script kiddies at heart
marble quartz
I thought making the most of their software/hardware
doesn't matter if you're a script kiddie
stark bough
Pretty much 
I’m thinking malicious script kiddie though
“Hey download this program I found on the internet”
dusty hemlock
Sounds like a normal day at the office
marble quartz
but whatever the case it's doing something what the average joe wouldn't
stark bough
Some tiers
Power users = Knowing Windows + D Gives you the D minimizes all windows
floral wave
That's my Mom. Hey how do you do (insert thing I've never done or thought about doing)
and always expects me to have the answer
stark bough
@floral wave
https://xkcd.com/627/
There is ALWAYS a relevant XKCD
marble quartz
oh yea I just google things
floral wave
so true
marble quartz
people kept asking me whatever and I googled it for them
I'm a proxy to google
lmgtfy
dusty hemlock
I'm a proxy to google
Definitely stealing this
floral wave
They usually fail at the taking the time to read what is on their screen part