damit its at 69.7 now
#folding-and-boinc
rancid flume
icy mango
@vernal cloak read up at the things I posted.
pale solar
@vernal cloak following a git posted above
hexed bison
Hi everyone, I've just installed the Folding@Home client, my desktop has a NVidia GTX 1060 3GB
dreamy hazel
just replace the files in your fah folder with the files from the git, and you'll be fine
rancid frost
@hexed bison Make that baby sing.
hallow tiger
No need to stop the client before you drop the files in
fierce steppe
As @icy mango detailed earlier you can also download the old client 7.4.4 and extract the old fahviewer files and freestyle6.dll and copy them in to the 7.5.1 program files
But for me this caused instability/crashed
cedar adder
What the hell 24h and only 1000 credits
rocky otter
Finally got a GPU WU!
fierce steppe
its because it just started @cedar adder after you progress it will update the ETA
icy mango
Looks like someone recompiled the viewer with the fixes, so that might be preferred over using the older build.
I'd follow the git recommendation first
and the older version as a secondary.
pale solar
wow first fold is on track to finsih in 4H
rocky otter
Is 72 degrees under full load too hot for a GPU?
mild kiln
Ain't that like against the usage of FAH of recompiling stuff?
fierce steppe
I'd do the github if you trust a random person on the internet 😄
Otherwise 7.4.4 if you trust foldingathome
spring jewel
72 should be fine for a GPU
rancid frost
@rocky otter That's not too bad.
dreamy hazel
it's fine hardboiled
pale solar
@rocky otter i was told 78 is the worry point but check your manufacturer specs
icy mango
@rocky otter depends on the manufacturer of your CPU, but generally speaking, no.
rocky otter
Also, does overclocking make FAH run any faster? It's overclocked a bit
icy mango
@fierce steppe is spot on with his response btw.
hallow tiger
@rocky otter Check the manufacturers recommendations on thermal max (probably around 85C)
rancid frost
It helps a little, but F@H is better aided by CUDA than clock speed.
spring jewel
I've limited my GPU to run at max 70C so its just throttles back so my fans dont get too loud
cedar adder
@fierce steppe Thanks I guess I have never looked at the start of one I just put it on when I am at work but now I have servers that can do it all the time
mild kiln
what's CUDA?
cedar adder
@mild kiln google it
rocky otter
The 1660 Ti generally boosts to 1770 MHz, I got it to 2GHz
pseudo thunder
Doing my bit
pale solar
https://github.com/FoldingAtHome/fah-issues/files/4364298/FAHViewer-091713f412-windows-x86_64.zip
https://github.com/FoldingAtHome/fah-issues/issues/1283
pseudo thunder
Not much power but something I guess
small current
sorry system cooling
hallow tiger
@vernal cloak Yup - already fixed it 😉
rancid frost
@mild kiln https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA
fierce steppe
Overclocking can give marginal improvements, but if its unstable it will cause the work units to crash and fail
sly otter
Is there any reason why sometimes the gpu does not recieve a WU?
icy mango
@rocky otter at the end of the day, running your CPU at high temps or close to what the manufacturer has recommended as the upper limits, can and will degrade the silicon over time.
fierce steppe
You're better off power limiting for optimal efficiency, thermals, noise
pseudo thunder
Running my GPU at 65C
fierce steppe
or for CPUs running stock but undervolting if possible
CPUs heavily favour cores over clock speed
forest sapphire
yay GPU and CPU again
small current
i have gotten my 1060 max 1 a 300mhz oc
mild kiln
Is there like a given list of how far to power limit and such? @fierce steppe
fierce steppe
Really depends on what you're aiming for gangsta...
I have my GPU power limited to 70% so I can keep fan speed under 60%. I run it when I'm sleeping
mild kiln
For me it's just to not heat the room as much
sly otter
On the 9900k is very difficult to tame the temps, even on WC sometimes lol
pale solar
what are your TPF's? mines sitting at 3 minutes 16 sec for GPU and 5 min even on CPU
mild kiln
70 C feels compromable for the temp in my room
fierce steppe
if you power limit you will get lower PPD
mild kiln
@sly otter mine is at 60 C but no turbo
real oxide
thanks, I finally got aWU
mild kiln
MSI has Turbo boost set to turbo the CPU and MCE on
pale solar
@cedar adder isnt that what i posted?
sly otter
@mild kiln that is pretty good for a 9900k, I have an 8350 and it sits at 65c no oc with a massive air heatsink xD
hexed bison
I am also collaborating with the Makers community that is building open-source prototypes of ventilators in Costa Rica: discord .gg/dxBcjpv
cedar adder
you just posed the issue not the specific comment @pale solar
mild kiln
Mine is watercooled
gusty path
Did WU's becomre more obtainable?
icy mango
@vernal cloak just be careful, that "new" viewer, wasn't compiled by the folding@home team.
pale solar
@cedar adder first link was download to file. second was issue. was how i saw it posted anyhow. but thank you. thatll be easier for others im sure
mild coral
hey guys, got folding@home installed on my unraid server. anyone else have an issue with the web client just constantly refreshing the page?
fierce steppe
don't use chrome
spark veldt
Chrome issue
mild kiln
Firefox better
icy mango
Yeah, for me Brave was doing that, but the stock Chrome client wasn't.
Kind of strange.
fierce steppe
It's a caching issue
forest sapphire
@mild coral use incognito if you want to use chrome
fierce steppe
Incognito mode works
pale solar
im gonna get a lot of hate but im liking edge best
mild coral
@mild coral use incognito if you want to use chrome
@forest sapphire thanks
fierce steppe
You can force reload it to clear the cache as well but thats only temporary fix
wheat lily
what is folding
mild coral
ill probably install firefox just for that
fierce steppe
easier to just use a different browser, or just use the advanced control
mild kiln
Your computer folds pieces of paper basic protein simulation
gusty path
That is just how it is Hartless
pale solar
wheat lily
thanks
mild coral
@gusty path okay wanted to make sure i didnt mess anything up
sly otter
what about not finding any cpu jobs
@mild coral sabe but for gpu lol
mild kiln
Linus should change that title
We know the Liquid guy has a better system than him to fold
cedar adder
@pale solar Thank you This one is cooler than the demo one
mild coral
im not finding issues with gpu. my 1660ti finding bunch of stuff rn
gusty path
There is CPU WU's, but they are quite rare, and not worth near as much credits as GPU ones
mild kiln
Here's Another Way To Help Find A Cure for COVID
mild coral
just didnt know why cpu was not coming with both gaming pc and my poweredge server
fierce steppe
For the viewer the CPU (Gro_A7) work units are accurate.
I believe the GPU (Core 22) are bugged
cedar adder
@mild kiln be a biomedical scientist lol
sly otter
There is CPU WU's, but they are quite rare, and not worth near as much credits as GPU ones
@gusty path but is the only thing that finds lol
mild kiln
lmao I should
mild coral
ill still run it on the unraid server. cant hurt it
pale solar
@cedar adder no problem. definatly nicer. @vernal cloak as for whether its what it actually looks like. im just gonna pretend it is regardles haha.
mild coral
ill eventually get some p2000 to shove in there
solid thunder
i completed a core 22 WU earlier today
gusty path
My PC here at the office has been finding work for most of today, I am surprised
fierce steppe
Does that say core 22?
fierce steppe
top left hand corner in the viewer, the bit you cut off in your screenshot... what does it say
pale solar
@fierce steppe isnt that where the % is?
fierce steppe
FahCore:
fierce steppe
it looks like a core 22 work unit
sly otter
dumb question here but will it grab more gpu WU if drivers are up to date?
pale solar
@sly otter should. dont think they would have much connection
solid thunder
it's more dependent on the ability to actually connect to the work server
spark veldt
solid thunder
and get a wu assigned
fierce steppe
Yes, OPENMM is for GPUs
_22 or 0x22 means core 22
frozen oxide
core 21/22 are GPU workers (22 for the newer GPUs)
a7 is the current CPU worker
mild kiln
I had a minor idea but may already be in use of a AI trying to spit out as much possible protein combos and send the simulation to others
mild kiln
Everyone and their Xeons
mild coral
It’s my Unraid server lol. Use it for nextcloud and Plex.
mild kiln
I had a Xeon server but sold it
rocky otter
Whoa. Just tried upping my fan curve a bit - I think my rig is about to lift off lol
spark veldt
get my Threadripper 3990X with LN2 cooling
spark veldt
so are we trying to find a cure or are we just amused at these fold previews
fierce steppe
We're trying to show PCMR who is boss
fierce steppe
Bunch of do-good-redditers thinking they can outfold us
spark veldt
Im not even in your team
cedar adder
48GB RAM DDR4 ECC 2400MHz
SSD 480GB SATA 6Gbps
Public bandwidth :
5 Gbps / 10 Gbps```
@mild kiln :)
I have 2 of thoseRAM mining
mild coral
We're trying to show PCMR who is boss
@fierce steppe they been talking about it in their fb group
mild kiln
I had Xeon E5640's 8 cores at 2.4 GHz, 72 GB DDR3 RAM, 6 TB Hard Drives and 100 Mbps Local Link
fierce steppe
why does a reddit have a facebook
mild coral
No idea
spark veldt
thats a good point
mild coral
I got invited to it tho
And they y’all about having all their users use whatever system they have to run this
Talk about*
Some have 4 systems just collecting dust and will fold on it
cedar adder
If I had money I would be using 2 x Intel Xeon Gold 6154 - 36c/72t - 3/3.7 GHz
mild coral
If only we had the money
rich depot
How are the stats between ltt and pcmr?
fierce steppe
cedar adder
yes lets take their members
spark veldt
Hah
rich depot
We have been ahead of PCMR for quite some time
spark veldt
thats exactly what we did
fierce steppe
PCMR is 18th
LTT is 6th
rich depot
Why aren't we 1th?
fierce steppe
because curecoin
cedar adder
we don't have money
spark veldt
who are they
spark veldt
they are a gpu mining company
rich depot
fierce steppe
pnmr is 9th ltt is 4th
@mild coral If you're getting that from the folding at home stats page for "Team Monthly" then that's completely busted
cedar adder
can someone make a script that auto pauses and unpauses if the recue time gets over say 30 mins
fierce steppe
I think someone did last year lol
rich depot
@cedar adder no. Don't
pale solar
is it normal for the FAH client to go to updating status every few minutes?
fierce steppe
updating status?
spark veldt
just passed 50 percent
pale solar
rich depot
@pale solar Yeah this happens for time to time, it's no issue
spark veldt
what do i believe
icy mango
@pale solar, you need to right click on the client in the task tray and go to web, once the web opens, it'll sync with the local client
and it should resume
pale solar
ok thanks ill try that
rich depot
if it recovers on its own usually just leave it be. No point forcing it to update imo
pale solar
weird its not letting me right click it at all :/ might have to reboot the program. will that lose all the work its odne?
*done
icy mango
Nope
icy mango
Ouch
rich depot
Hi. I havent folded since 2008. Im wondering what cause I should select to help fight covid-19
icy mango
it can be computationally expensive to fold when you're doing / running other things.
cedar adder
@rich depot any
rich depot
thank you. was expecting something that had the name virus in it or something
icy mango
@rich depot there's no specific setting for covid right now, but if you join Linus's team, you should hopefully get those jobs for covid.
After I joined Linus's team, I received a Covid job.
rich depot
will do! 🙂 do any of you experts know if its possible to schedule when to fold? i want it on when im sleeping or when im at the office
fierce steppe
covid-19 projects are being prioritised to everyone... LTT isn't special lol
icy mango
rich depot
not sure what counts as "idle" tbh
fierce steppe
But welcome aboard anyway
high hamlet
Yeah I was wondering that as well
rich depot
thanks alot
umbral pumice
Yesterday I had an 70k aprox of worth mission, and cuz it is no able to send it now it's at 16615 and astill trying to send it
icy mango
Yeah @umbral pumice that's due to their bandwidth limitations
cedar adder
@icy mango One of my servers is doing the same one as you
icy mango
@cedar adder nice 🙂
umbral pumice
@icy mango and If it sends it, will I get the points I should get or the 16 it's marking now
icy mango
https://foldingathome.org/support/faq/points/ might have some information on that @umbral pumice
Sorry, I'm not sure if it happens once you submit, or while you're working.
fierce steppe
You'll get the points at the time that it uploads
icy mango
That's unfortunate.
fierce steppe
It is
icy mango
Seeing as how connectivity to those servers is saturated right now 🙂
storm talon
holy balls I did 32 WU's in one day
covert latch
I just installed it and it says "ready" but nothing is folding yet, is it just cuz I didn't get any workunits yet or did I configure something incorrectly?
storm talon
is that good?
icy mango
It's great that the work is occurring though, really happy that so many people are contributing to this effort.
forest sapphire
Haha nice Larry
icy mango
@storm talon that's awesome man.
storm talon
makin bank while I sleep
forest sapphire
Lol
icy mango
@covert latch likely that you don't have any workunits yet, you can go into advanced and the log
and see what it's doing there.
rich depot
im spreading the linus video in all the discords im in
lapis crystal
i got the passcode today idk if i shd fold just med spec system
icy mango
@lapis crystal depends on your HW imo, If you are using it, you could always tune the power down to low or medium if it's using too much resources
thats what im doing currently
willow iron
And all my points are gone
icy mango
then changing it to Full while I'm asleep
lapis crystal
i can't run overnight due to blackouts
rich depot
i have Full and On Idle. that works best for me
willow iron
My client says 0 estimated points yet it had points yesterday
lapis crystal
well i give a go tmrw
icy mango
0 estimated points I think is based on the current work orders / work you're performing
not the aggregate of points you've accumulated in total
willow iron
Oh
icy mango
Don't quote me on that, but I believe that's how it works.
fierce steppe
Yeah, estimated points goes off the work unit you're currently working on.
If you're not working on a project, it will show 0
mild kiln
How do you know how many WU's you have done?
fierce steppe
Shows in your stats page
mild kiln
We can’t connect to the server at stats.foldingathome.org.
snow fractal
use the EOC page
rancid flume
btw, I have a question for all those people mining on their mac
is performance better on macos or bootcamp?
green monolith
linux
willow iron
I'm still pissed I because I woke up to it saying next attempt in 5 hours and 41 minutes
rancid flume
linux on mac?
willow iron
Means my pc probably did nothing
fierce steppe
Yeah that's happened to me matt
You can check the logs to see if it completed anything
but 5hr 41min between checks means you didnt get anything for a while
mild kiln
My GPU is sitting 1 hr timeout with no work
willow iron
17:17:51:WARNING:WU01:FS01:WorkServer connection failed on port 8080 trying 80
fierce steppe
If it's up to 1 hour (or more) pause the client, wait 10 seonds, then resume
pale solar
weird. went to full power and let it run for a bit and my gpu cot cooler and the enstimated time went up
rancid flume
is there a way to set the retry attempt interval to a fixed 1 minute?
mild kiln
will do Spotty
willow iron
Aye just got 2 work units
snow fractal
nice
fierce steppe
is there a way to set the retry attempt interval to a fixed 1 minute?
@rancid flume no
rancid flume
that sucks
willow iron
Why is it always my shittier gpu that gets the work units lol
fierce steppe
Its intentional to progressively take longer between checks so there isn't just suddenly 400,000 systems pinging the servers every minute when the server crashes
rancid flume
they have multiple servers
mild kiln
turn off the crap gpu from work
my Q6600 is at 85% done with 1 hr to finish it's job
it's been at 70 C for 3 hours
willow iron
WU02:FS02:0x22:Folding@home Core Shutdown: BAD_WORK_UNIT
wheat lynx
nice
willow iron
What is with all these problems
mild kiln
BAD_WORK_UNIT Unstable
wheat lynx
you overclocked?
willow iron
Barely
wheat lynx
too much
willow iron
My 2700x has been stable for about a year
spark veldt
Zero in about 50 there will be a completed gpu fold if you need a picture
mild kiln
Folding is harder punishment than Prime95 or Cinebench
snow fractal
folding is very sensitive to OCs
spark veldt
On stream
mild kiln
it is probrally instable
storm talon
most home systems are not designed for sustained loads like that
mild kiln
Confused
storm talon
any instability, no matter how small, will present itself after a day or two of barring your cpu/gpu at 100%
fierce steppe
Damn. Default beat us by 400k points this update
storm talon
it probably got sad and thought you were going to leave it alone again
willow iron
Is it normal to have GPU at only about 50% usage instead of near 100 even though it's set to full
willow iron
Oh I fixed that part I think
Set priority to high in task manager and it's now at 100
stone canopy
soooo I have a dumb question but I don't know enough about foldit to comment, I have a dedicated xeon server for gaming, 64gb ram, does it make any sense to, and is it possible to run foldit on it or is only gpu worthwhile?
icy mango
it can do both CPU/GPU @stone canopy
I'd definitely recommend contributing if you're able.
turbid abyss
ok just started, i finally got my passkey and logged into the team. how often in the list updated for the contest? i'm not 100% sure i signed up correct but don't want to post until i know its been updated after i signed up. i signed up at like 5pm pst yesterday
storm talon
I have 48 cpu's running on Full rn
it is 100% worth it, but you should divvy them up in quad core
stone canopy
that server is mostly empty unless coworkers are on it so imma look for instructions how to set it up in a moment 🙂
covert latch
i'm getting this error
ERROR:Receive error: 10053: An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine.
Which operating system is running on it?
fierce steppe
@covert latch its because you have the viewer open.
Doesn't work in windows, it'll just be stuck on the demo loop
storm talon
also @stone canopy please check with your hosting provider, some do not allow mining/folding even on dedicated boxes. You don't wanna get booted
stone canopy
hnnng
covert latch
@fierce steppe I had the viewer :) wanted to see how it works
willow iron
Is it normal to not have points per day and no contribution info in the client?
Ignore the IS
lol
stone canopy
I'm a firm believer that on baremetal servers what you do is what you do but thats good advice @storm talon , thank you for your responsees @icy mango and @vernal cloak too 🙂
fierce steppe
The slot you have selected isn't currently processing anything which is why it is showing 0 estimated points
fierce steppe
I find the advanced control better. Right click the foldingathome icon in the tray icons and select Advanced Control
covert latch
I'm getting another error:
17:33:16:WARNING:WU00:FS00:Failed to get assignment from '65.254.110.245:8080': No WUs available for this configuration
17:33:16:WARNING:WU01:FS01:Failed to get assignment from '65.254.110.245:8080': No WUs available for this configuration
17:33:25:ERROR:WU00:FS00:Exception: 10002: Received short response, expected 512 bytes, got 0
thats normal
fierce steppe
That's because there aren't any work units available.
Their servers are getting smashed
covert latch
oh
ocean mulch
Question do u need a passcode to run it on 2 systems to get the points under the same name?
covert latch
okay
fierce steppe
Just leave it running and it will start when it gets one
rich depot
Jake needs to get moving with the ltt server
rancid flume
i just got a short response 0
pale solar
my pc will not load the veiwer again for GPU for the life of me. no matter how many time i try it. oh well. % still going so its doing its job. just not as pretty
rancid flume
its useless so just leave it
you get faster compute with the 3d viewer closed anyway
fierce steppe
^^
solid thunder
yeah it's hard to get work units since the userbase for the servers basically increased by like 1333% in a very short timespan so the f@h team are probably panicking
pale solar
i have my viewer fixed sp it should work. just want to take occasional screenshots but c'est la vie
rancid flume
lol their system admins are noob
you're supposed to have some spare capacity for unexpected spikes
solid thunder
rancid flume
at least some sort of backup load balancing that is triggered only when traffic increases over a set limit
solid thunder
i don't give a shit how good a system admin you are, no-one can handle an unexpected usage increase at such a magnitude
willow iron
Can I use the same username and passkey for 2 computers?
Will they both get points that add up
rancid frost
1337% increase.
rancid flume
@solid thunder not really. all they had to do was set up a backup load balancer that activates when traffic increases
solid thunder
roughly
pale solar
they went from something like a few tens of thousand users to well over a few hundred thousand
solid thunder
that's if they would expect a sudden increase of traffic
the keyword in what i said was unexpected
rich depot
@rancid flume they'd probably do that if they had unlimited money...
rancid flume
the key to good management is managing "unexpected" events
solid thunder
guarantee you if you look at a time graph of the traffic from 2000 to now, this would probably be the largest spike in their history
rich depot
.gif don't feed the troll
rancid flume
and also, backup load balancers can be set to not cost money until it is triggered
rancid flume
there are so many easy options with cloud servers these days its hard to imagine they're actually struggling with this
eternal oar
guarantee you if you look at a time graph of the traffic from 2000 to now, this would probably be the largest spike in their history
@solid thunder im actually interested on seeing this graph maybe someone can send it here?
stone canopy
slight update, I just had a longer chat with tech support at ovh and the wonderful guy talking with me and according to him they are OK with me running foldit on dedicated servers
so set up in progress 🙂
ocean mulch
how good is a older cpu at folding worth setting up?
stone canopy
define older 😉
ocean mulch
think its an Amd A8
rich depot
define good
fierce steppe
slight update, I just had a longer chat with tech support at ovh and the wonderful guy talking with me and according to him they are OK with me running foldit on dedicated servers
@stone canopy get it in writing
stone canopy
I will but in the meantime I can start running the setup
icy mango
At worst they'd suspend the account at which point he could appeal the process, but yes. I agree with Spotty, in writing is best.
stone canopy
well aware guys, worked in support and sysops for 7 years now across 5 companies 🙂
icy mango
Just making sure you have all of your CYA checkboxes checked 🙂
stone canopy
at worst they shut down the server, its paid for the next ~2months only anyway and used mostly for my own studies 🙂
storm talon
lolol 🙂
storm talon
to be fayah
stone canopy
will make them like the worst humans on planet if they refuse
7 years in support taught me how to get companies to agree to this crap XD
storm talon
lol I just told my boss "I'm spinning up 12 vm's on one of our unused clusters. deal with it"
icy mango
Haha.
stone canopy
I can't really use an 'unused' cluster at work
BUUUT coming to think of it
I could prolly swing some bs around for that purpose
storm talon
I can. It's a business of 2 people
storm talon
right on
stone canopy
if I were to spin up 12 vms no one would notice
stone canopy
XD
storm talon
I went full hog with a 32 core vm and almost broke vsphere. been having much better results with multiple smaller vm's
stone canopy
I'd comment but lets leave that aside, however maybe I can convince some higherups of running foldit somewhere, we should have some un-used dedicated servers running total bullshit within the company, they can be put to use if they agree
storm talon
tbh the only issue I can see anyone having against folding would be the increased power cost
however, if you're smart like us you get it included in the lease 😉
simple drum
larry
storm talon
Limes
simple drum
can you do me a favor
stone canopy
I don't think they'd notice ithe increase in power usage but I don't have access to root
so I need to request more access
icy mango
🙂
simple drum
can you go to stressthem.to and see if the website loads for you
simple drum
ok
rich depot
just use downforeveryone
storm talon
looks busted to me
rich depot
simple drum
ty
rich depot
So uh, it's 1am, my CPU and GPU are folding, is there any quick recipe for such time?
storm talon
lol just write a script to do it for you
rich depot
@vernal cloak use Notepad or Notepad+++, it takes a bit of RAM tho
wintry drift
I got the thing but im not getting any jobs is this norma;?
wintry drift
ok
storm talon
"everything is fine"
wintry drift
lol
serene fossil
is it normal for a 3800x to only get 134k ppd?
storm talon
I use vi
storm talon
fair
lol just draft it up in wordpress, go to the "code" tab instead of visual, copy paste done
yup
fierce steppe
I wonder how much money I would make if I got paid 1c for every word I've posted to the LTT forums
storm talon
it's just a suggestion, but yea check it out if you want a quick and dirty
serene fossil
now its at 234k, what exactly is used to calculate ppd? is it just clocks?
wintry drift
??
pale solar
@serene fossil dont know but my ppd on my ryzen 5 1600 is only 11549
1060 6gb is giving me a nice healthy 412964 ppd at least
silent sparrow
CPUs dont produce that much but 11549 is pretty low. Im getting 60-70K on my 2600
pale solar
i wonder why its getting so few?
silent sparrow
Are you doing anything else on the PC?
silent sparrow
Multitasking kills it
dreamy hazel
currently working on a WU that's got 52k estimate for my cpu, and the gpu one is estimated 83k
pale solar
ah that would be it. i chatting with you fine folk and half my usualt thousand tabs of useles things i think ill get back too (never do)
dreamy hazel
both ETA ~30mins
serene fossil
i have a 14k one thats taking 6 hours
maiden grotto
Hi everyone. This is my first day trying to fold, I'm being met with "Could not get an assignment". Is this common?
dreamy hazel
yeah
pale solar
yes
dreamy hazel
just wait
rich depot
yes
rich depot
actually which one you set up? CPU or GPU?
serene fossil
you can go to settings and change the rate it checks for, i have mine at 4 min
rich depot
I got a high priority CPU task
maiden grotto
Ok cool, I'll just leave it be. DOes anyone know what qualifies as "idle"? Is it no user input, no tasks running?
serene fossil
i was wondering the same
serene fossil
i just manually set iton or off if im not gaming
maiden grotto
Is there a way to choose your project?
rich depot
nope
but wu is wu and anything is appreciated
although covid are prioritized right now
rancid flume
cpu 7 hours and no work
maiden grotto
Thats good, hopefully this can help.
odd barn
covid is prioritized, and if you can't get covid, there's some cancers that they've put below that
rich depot
most pep are working on covid, but some got cancer projects tho
eh, their server are swamped by request
don't blame them
serene fossil
i fired it up this morning and instantly got a cpu project, no gpu yet tho
dreamy hazel
in the morning i had 3 cpu wu's in a row, then an hour of nothing
rancid flume
if they made this a share based process we would not be having so many difficulties
pale solar
anyway to search up project numbers to see what your working on? it automatically populated on cpu in web control but gpu stays "loading"
dreamy hazel
would be interesting
rich depot
pale solar
thanks
rich depot
type your project number then hit submit
maiden grotto
I'm mostly GPU, since my CPU is just an i5.
cedar adder
rich depot
aight
dusty hemlock
is client.foldingathome.org broken? the web gui
silent sparrow
Use incognito mode
dreamy hazel
Projects 11759-11764
serene fossil
im on it fine
silent sparrow
Known issue with current chrome GUI
rich depot
try firefox
dusty hemlock
@silent sparrow Incognito connected fine, thanks. Was working fine all yesterday on this machine
silent sparrow
Same here, new problem that just came up recently
rich depot
my folding at home keeps looping at WS ASSIGNMENT
serene fossil
this 6 hour project isnt even hitting all cores at anything over 80% is that normal? every cpu project ive had maxes out
pale solar
lol k. searched my project there and i just get a blank page
silent sparrow
I normally max out too. Maybe it has something to do with the protein only being able to handle a couple of cores at once?
pale solar
maybe thats why the project doesnt populate in web control
silent sparrow
Thats why some people are splitting their CPUs into 4-8 core chunks
serene fossil
its set to 15 threads so it should be using all, estimated points is almsot 40k so it seems like a big one
rich depot
My folding project is stucking
somzone help me my folding@home keeps looping at WS assignment
serene fossil
hm i might split it too then
dreamy hazel
dw A3mont, that's normal
pale solar
stupid question... how do you split your cpu/ ensure its using all threads?
rich depot
it's normal, the server hasn't send it to you
dreamy hazel
it takes a while to get a WU assigned, as currently the distribution servers are out of capacity
serene fossil
go to config then slots
dreamy hazel
lots and lots of new folders
serene fossil
if you set it to -1 the client wil auto max out
rich depot
oh how long?
silent sparrow
Not stupid hard to find @pale solar . Go to configure then slots and then click on cpu and then edit and you can change the number to amount of cores.
dreamy hazel
just wait, it can take hours until you get one
silent sparrow
And you can add another slot with some more cores. So for example two slots with 6 cores each
serene fossil
doesnt that number assign number of threads?
rich depot
noice
silent sparrow
Yes threads sorry
pale solar
ok so if i only got one cpu under slots labled as 0 its only using one core/thread?
rich depot
Also I'm stucking, my GPU is idling but not fold
dreamy hazel
there's a little timer called Next Attempt, if that goes above an hour or two you can try pausing your cpu and hitting fold again @rich depot
silent sparrow
No that just means it is not splitting it. The number after CPU is how many threads are being used.
rich depot
no it's GPU
silent sparrow
Walky's picture shows 5 threads
rich depot
5th core, R5 3600
serene fossil
V
rich depot
that's core not threads
serene fossil
silent sparrow
Mines is threads. I have cpu:11
dreamy hazel
it's threads, i have cpu:23
serene fossil
yeah its threads forme
pale solar
ok mine is showing 11
storm talon
yea if you're on medium it saves 1 core for you
dreamy hazel
it starts to count at 0, so it's actually 12
pale solar
is 0 counted when counting threads like cores are or do i hva eone thread free?
rich depot
it counts from 0
storm talon
if you toggle from medium to full it adds one more core/thread
stone canopy
ehhh im literally just waiting for it to send me a passkey now
for over 20 minutes 😦
dreamy hazel
i think it does? always assumed so
pale solar
ok cool. i think ill try that
serene fossil
yeah
silent sparrow
I thought it always left one thread for system?
serene fossil
nope
dreamy hazel
i mean, it's not like one of my threads experiences less load
serene fossil
ive had projects completly max out my cpu, had to open a window
silent sparrow
When I make a new slot with 6 threads it shows up as 6
dreamy hazel
it's lower priority, so a system shouldn't really suffer from it using all cores no?
serene fossil
?
silent sparrow
Pretty sure it counts from one and leaves one core for the system
silent sparrow
But exalted has a good point. My task manager always says 100% which means that that one thread is doing something
rich depot
eh, use HWinfo
serene fossil
its just like running a blender sim or something similar, it doesnt save anything unless you set it
i am lol
dreamy hazel
hwinfo also tells me all my threads are running near to 100%
would in my opinion justify that it's running on all the threads
strong bobcat
Is there a problem for passkey generation?
dreamy hazel
it has a long wait time if you're unlucky
rich depot
just the server being swamped
serene fossil
its basically running a protein sim on yout machine its gona max out
silent sparrow
@strong bobcat Yes servers very hammered right now
pale solar
does the id in slots matter? made a new cpu entry with 6 threads on each and new one is labled as -1 under ID
strong bobcat
@silent sparrow thank you for update..
snow fractal
if no pass for 24hrs request again
serene fossil
did you allocate more then the system has?
silent sparrow
@pale solar No
serene fossil
might put it at -1 is it cant access it
pale solar
dreamy hazel
yeah, i'm just saying that if one core/thread was reserved for system etc, wouldn't that mean it would have different load on it than the rest of the threads which are under synthetic load?
pale solar
ok same here. thanks @silent sparrow
silent sparrow
Np
dreamy hazel
can i somehow see the status whether i'm eligible for qrb?
pale solar
lol splitting my cpu to half didnt do a bit of difference in completion time on the WU its using. definitely worth splitting.
snow fractal
do you have a passkey and if so have you finished 10 WUs with it?
silent sparrow
Mine went from 4h 30m to 5h
So not big deal
Also allows me to game at same time now
rich depot
why is my folding@home only using gpu not cpu
pale solar
mine was at 5H 20min went up to 5H 27 min
snow fractal
probably no work for cpu
pale solar
so it did! didnt even check ppd. only went down 2k for me but i was only getting 12k anyway
storm talon
14524 finishing in 6 mins woot!
snow fractal
my ppd is regularly 3 digits lol
snow fractal
ah 3 more and you'll be eligible for qrb
dreamy hazel
kk
serene fossil
what is qrb?
storm talon
moar doge
snow fractal
quick return bonus
serene fossil
oh ok
dreamy hazel
morning larry btw
snow fractal
if you return a competed wu before the timeout you get extra points
rich depot
How quick is quick on the qrb? I've waited for like 12 hours on a wu
dreamy hazel
timeout is usually 3 days after being issued the wu
serene fossil
its not quick return to you, its quickr eturn to them
silent sparrow
WTF, my time just went from 5h to 1h
serene fossil
is it possible to learn this amgic
rich depot
Ah okay
rich depot
Timeout error, rip
silent sparrow
now 164K PPD on my CPU normally 50K something funny is going on
serene fossil
what is the estimated TPF for?
yeah mine randomly went from 134k to 234k on a cpu proj
pale solar
split my cpu now i gotta wait for another WU :/
dreamy hazel
estimate PPD of this WU was 310k
rich depot
Just realised we've been promoted! No more being stuck in the 'other'
@rich depot ?
The channel
storm talon
cool
snow fractal
moved 2 days so i thinks
storm talon
easier for new people to find
rich depot
We have always been between crypto and networking. My baby is all grown up!
silent sparrow
@pale solar Actually just split my 12 THREADS into 3 packs of 4 and getting same amount of ETA. Splitting to quads is the advice Ive heard from others on here so you might give that a trie
serene fossil
i might just keep it split in half
rich depot
(PS I'm the reason this channel exists, hence why it's my baby)
silent sparrow
Ya i think either half or quad threads is kind of the way to go
rich depot
Oh really? How do you decide which cores it uses? Or just put it at 4 cores and if'll decide which they are?
serene fossil
actually if i do 4 threads it cools down enough to get to 4.4ghz so maybe fourths is best
i went from 15 to 3 with 0 different in ppd or time
rich depot
Nice
storm talon
geohotz estimates it'll take him about 12 weeks to reverse engineer corona and create a vaccine
what a legend
rich depot
Who?
dreamy hazel
never heard of him
rich depot
Sounds like a scam
serene fossil
i think reducing the number of threads per slot is the best method, my time just went from 6 hr to 5 hr 30 min after the cpu cooled and clocks went up to 4.3
atleast for ryzen cpus i think its best to split them into smll chunks
storm talon
you never heard of geohotz? the guy who jailbroke the ps3, iphone and created self driving cars
rich depot
Oh him
storm talon
yea he's been doing mind-numbing 4-6 hour livestreams reverse engineering the rna of the virus in python
rich depot
Too bad I do 't believe hus 12 weeks
serene fossil
yeah my ppd just went from 124k to 141k just by reducing the threads, looks like its more clock speed dependant then thread
silent sparrow
My ETA just shot back up to 3h so I dont know how many threads to use. My suspicion is that it might also have something to do with chiplets and ryzen. Isnt there 6 threads per chiplet?
pale solar
2 per core if thats what you mean. not sure bout chiplet
serene fossil
i feel like its 4 threads per
storm talon
I thought chiplets were only in 3rd gen
silent sparrow
Well ya I knew that. I think the 2600 has two chiplets.
pale solar
4 would make sense 6 seems... off
silent sparrow
No chiplets have been since beginning of ryzen
storm talon
right on
silent sparrow
I think they are 4 core chiplets with one core disabled
Im not sure though cant find a good picture online
serene fossil
i can see that
pale solar
ill be honest dont know much about the actual architecture in cpus. i know what slot it goes in though :p
serene fossil
storm talon
omfl
silent sparrow
So 4 cores per chiplet
dreamy hazel
actually, the ryzen 3 chiplets are 8 core chiplets, on the 3600(x) it's a chiplet with 2 cores disabled, the 3900x has 2 8core chiplets, each with 2 cores disabled
storm talon
I'm not a big fan of delidding
silent sparrow
Oh ok deyta
dreamy hazel
the big one is only the I/O handler
silent sparrow
Thats right
dreamy hazel
it's very smart actually, this way they get to utilize a chiplet even if the silicone quality doesn't allow all 8 cores to run efficiently; if 6 are running fine they can just use it for their 3600 or 3900's
silent sparrow
storm talon
so, they solved the binning problem is what you're saying 😉
silent sparrow
Here is a 2600 cant really tell what there is though
dreamy hazel
and if all work fine, they'll use it for a 3700/3800/3950x
silent sparrow
Looks like 2 chiplets
maiden grotto
Anyone else folding on Linux? (Pop OS)
serene fossil
ok now my project is at 8 hours
silent sparrow
Your right deyta
serene fossil
im so confused
silent sparrow
Ya Im up to 6h now Exalted
What project number are you doing right now @serene fossil
dreamy hazel
i'm waiting for wu's :3
serene fossil
14190
silent sparrow
14051
dreamy hazel
eyy, i just did that same one exalted
dreamy hazel
yep
silent sparrow
Mines is for some type of cancer
dreamy hazel
research on how future folding algorithms can be improved by studying a bacteria that apparently has a high amount of enzyme output or something
I don't understand anything about biology
stark bough
It’s relatively easy to sequence a genome now
The hard part is figuring out how it works
Or what parts are responsible for its function
maiden grotto
Is the project your PID?
dreamy hazel
it's displayed after Project
stark bough
It’s like having the Machine Code or source code of an object. Can’t tell exactly what it does till you run it
dreamy hazel
in the advanced client
serene fossil
i just doubled the threads on the slot with that project to see the impact now
cpu is still at 72 and rad is pushing out cool air
silent sparrow
I think Ill just leave it at 4 4 4
I have a 2600 with Hyper 212 LED and never go over 60 degrees c
stark bough
silent sparrow
Chip doesnt overclock well though so I just left it to boost
dreamy hazel
pbo will reduce clock automatically so it stays in the early ranges of 80's
stark bough
I kinda regret not getting a 3900x
silent sparrow
WTAF, My 6h just went to 1m
serene fossil
i followed actually hardcore overclockings guide on pbo settings so i sit at around 4.494.5 normally
LOL
silent sparrow
dreamy hazel
in the end i actually ended up at 3,7ghz all thread
silent sparrow
@serene fossil Do you have link?
serene fossil
to?
silent sparrow
The PBO thing from actually hardcore overclockings
serene fossil
yeah 1 sec
silent sparrow
According to my FAH im getting 5Mil per day on CPU. Dont think thats right
silent sparrow
Wonder if it will work for me then
serene fossil
doesnt hurt to try, its just changing the power limits mostylu
silent sparrow
Isnt there a known issue of getting stuck at 99.99%?
Cause thats what my thing just did
dreamy hazel
so you're saying i should split up my 12c24thread into smaller blocks?
silent sparrow
Seems to be better yes Deyta. Id say maybe 4 blocks of 6
dreamy hazel
how would i best go about that?
silent sparrow
It was mentioned earlier in this chat
serene fossil
ok now its at 1 hour and 300k ppd
silent sparrow
An hour ago @dreamy hazel
My work got put back to 55% so must have been some sort of bug
forest sapphire
sweet I am at 555496 points right now
serene fossil
my ppd is now at 587k what is going on
silent sparrow
My thing keeps ramping up. Might have to lose it
serene fossil
still climbing
odd barn
I have 11 hours until this project is finished
odd barn
wonder what my temps are like on my old CPU
silent sparrow
What CPU do you have @odd barn 6300T?
sour bolt
Just joined the LTT folding team! Reset all my points though :/
dreamy hazel
aight, got that set up
not your personal points, only the points collected for the team
forest sapphire
@sour bolt yeah that part sucks
dreamy hazel
right?
odd barn
This is probably better represented
dreamy hazel
if you didn't have a key, you're screwed 
forest sapphire
sweet GPU is starting a task
sour bolt
hahaha oh well
dreamy hazel
yeah same here
odd barn
@silent sparrow I'm using this smol boi to fold
silent sparrow
Nice
odd barn
Seems to be holding up really well
forest sapphire
heck ya
sour locust
I am thinking of building a specific PC for folding. I got some spare hardware laying around sooo yeah
sour bolt
I have a big rig that I'm using.
i5-7600k
2070super
sour locust
a GTX 960 and an i7 6400
sour bolt
I just pause everything when I want to do something haha
warm plaza
Is anyone getting CPU jobs anymore? I don't think my system has seen any in days
odd barn
What's your performance like with the 2070Super @sour bolt
sour locust
and got my system running an RX Vega 64
odd barn
I mean, in regards to folding
sour bolt
@odd barn Gaming or folding?
forest sapphire
@sour bolt same here.
serene fossil
yeah same mike im just folding on my main 3800x and 2070s while i study
odd barn
folding
forest sapphire
I just pause when I am wanting to game
sour bolt
Folding it's suuuuper fast
forest sapphire
any other tasks I do, it doesn't have a performance hit that I notice all that mutch
odd barn
Well anything's faster than what I have right now
forest sapphire
but gaming I do see it
sour bolt
and @warm plaza I constantly have CPU jobs
odd barn
Looking to build another gaming PC just under $2,000
dreamy hazel
well yeah, wait until you get a larger WU @sour bolt
forest sapphire
3900x with 2080ti is a big rig, and I can game when the GPU is being used. But... it just takes longer to fold and fps is cut in half
serene fossil
3800x and 2070 is a great combo
serene fossil
u can prolly get a 2080 instead and be under 2k
pale solar
i just realized i got a spare gtx 650ti boost. do you guys think that would work well in tandem with my 1060 for this? not SLI i know but would it be worth doing?
sour bolt
My 2070S was $750 shipped from newegg.
I'm SURE you could finish a full PC build around that for under 2k
odd barn
Oh no I definitely can
Hence why I was looking at 2070 Super instead of 2080
I had a lot of cost savings with my build
forest sapphire
@pale solar Yeah plug it in
odd barn
because it was initially like $4,000
warm plaza
@sour bolt all I get are timeouts or No WUs available for this configuration
odd barn
Had to decide what I do and don't need
serene fossil
if your building for just under 2k my build came out to 1.4ish
forest sapphire
@pale solar You can run multiple cards. It will task each one.
pale solar
@forest sapphire cool thanks
sour bolt
I got the 2070super because I read that the Super version of cards had better NVENC encoding, and because I do a lot of streaming I went with it.
forest sapphire
you can even have it pause CPU and your primary GPU in case you want to game while it is using that card.
odd barn
Well I'm referring to 2K Canadian
sour bolt
@warm plaza I just finished a WU and instantly got another
forest sapphire
Just make sure you PS can handle all 3 going max
odd barn
Sorry should have been more clear
serene fossil
o
sour bolt
@odd barn I am Canadian as well
odd barn
Ah so you get it then
sour bolt
I do, yes.
odd barn
My cost savings was a slower CPU, and going with 2070Super
serene fossil
yeah you could do a 2070s and like a 3600 i think
sour bolt
I already had the rest of my build and just upgraded the GPU
rich depot
^
odd barn
I went 2070S with R7 2700X
pale solar
@forest sapphire good point on the psu. mines only 650w dont know if thatll be enogh
odd barn
Good idea or no?
serene fossil
i think you should get 3000 series tbh
sour bolt
yes get a 3000 series
odd barn
wait im blind
sour bolt
I have my eyes on a 3700x
odd barn
sorry
sour bolt
whenever I get a job again fml
silent sparrow
@pale solar Considering there is a very small ammount of GPU work right now I personally dont think it is worth the hassle unless you really want to
forest sapphire
haha yeah 3000 series are amazing
odd barn
R7 3700X is about $399 right now
rich depot
6500w should be enough if you pair 2070 with r5 3600
serene fossil
i was gonna do 3700x but i figurd might as well pay a bit more for a better binned one and got the 3800x
odd barn
Yeah, here's the thing
rich depot
also boi my GPU is ramming up
sour bolt
I have a 2070 and an i5-7600 and my draw is around 400w
odd barn
Quick question
sour bolt
I'm on one of them
odd barn
what's the diff between 2070 / 2070Super
serene fossil
how are you measuring total draw?
rich depot
is 11777 up yet? possibly covid project
sour bolt
A friend of mine had an external reader like linus does
serene fossil
oh ok
silent sparrow
@odd barn Memory speed
sour bolt
You plug your PC into it and then that into the wall
odd barn
Gotcha.
sour bolt
@rich depot I'm on 11762 not sure about 11777
serene fossil
the 2070 super is basically a normal 2080
rich depot
B450
sour bolt
^
rich depot
if you only need to fold
dreamy hazel
i'm on 11749, also covid
rich depot
11777 hasn't up on detail yet
serene fossil
x570 would be the best but b450 is also compatable
sour bolt
odd barn
Could I do the Asus Prime B450-Plus?
silent sparrow
Tomahack Max should suit you just fine @odd barn
rich depot
welp, guess I'll keep my system idling for a week
serene fossil
yeah
rich depot
no need, a cheap ass b450 is ok
odd barn
I probably just need to do the bios flash or something
silent sparrow
Yeah just got to worry about Bios supporting 3700x
serene fossil
probably dont even need a flash
odd barn
They should come pre-flashed now no?
silent sparrow
If you have an older CPU lying around then your good
rich depot
^
silent sparrow
Some do some dont
sour bolt
If you're just going do to folding it should be fine
silent sparrow
Most probably do now though
forest sapphire
odd barn
Well the store I usually buy from does it for free so I think I'll be okay
serene fossil
im tempted to put my old i7 4790 and 1070 into a case to fold
rich depot
seems they're pushing drug target assignments
odd barn
Do ittttt
silent sparrow
@odd barn Ya your good then. I always forget about retail because I dont have a microcenter or really anything near me
rich depot
Oof
sour bolt
Same, just a best buy lmao
serene fossil
only issue is i need a psu and i live with my grandparents so going out rn is a bad idea
odd barn
Right right. A lot of things are shutting down, but computer stores are remaining open
rich depot
All unecessary stores will be closed upcoming weekend in my place tho
odd barn
Mikey, I got a Canada Computers near me so I'm lucky
dreamy hazel
would an i5-3570K and a gtx 960 cut anything worthwhile?
rich depot
^
odd barn
whereabouts you live?
sour bolt
@dreamy hazel Anything is better than nothing haha
hushed bobcat
@serene fossil I have a 4790k, 660Ti, and a GT 730 folding right now
silent sparrow
@serene fossil Make your own PSU
odd barn
Deyta, anything works
sour bolt
I live in the Okanagan.
rich depot
maybe they have some secret discount
hushed bobcat
4790k is about 42k PPD
odd barn
Is that Ontario?
dreamy hazel
well, running my main system with a 3900X and a 1060 already
sour bolt
British Columbia.
dreamy hazel
full blown
odd barn
Oh man
serene fossil
1060 and 3900x?
dreamy hazel
i'm just worried about the extra power draw
yeah, yeah, i know, the gpu is a bit low
rich depot
^
dreamy hazel
gets the job done until i save up enough for a replacement
sour bolt
Exactly
serene fossil
yeye
dreamy hazel
the rest of the system was enough of an investment
modest spoke
New to folding question: Is there a reason only one of my GPUs is currenly folding? The other just says "Ready" in the slot and "Download" in the queue.
dreamy hazel
and well, i switched from an i5-3570K and the 1060 in it
sour bolt
Because it hasn't downloaded the work load @modest spoke
silent sparrow
I had a RX 470 with a 2600 on a 144hz display until recently but finally upgraded to Vega 56 when they were doing those cheap sales
sour bolt
Once it downloads it should start working
rich depot
@modest spoke an assignments is about 20mb, it needs to download first then start folding
Also my 1660 is screaming, good thing is the temp is only 56C
modest spoke
I only ask because it's been sitting for half an hour while my cpu and other gpu are happily folding away
odd barn
Okay, the build is about $1,907 after taxes approx
rich depot
blame fah's server
dreamy hazel
I like to do VR streams with mixed reality, the 1060 handles most vr games fine, and i use the 3900x for encoding the streams at 1080p60fps
serene fossil
seems to be a shortage of gpu wus
sour bolt
My 2070 is silent right now. Fans a little louder than idle and it's at 60C
CPU cores are at 50C ish.
rich depot
@odd barn how much vat in canada?
serene fossil
my strix 2070s never goes above 50c
odd barn
I don't think we have VAT.
modest spoke
fair enough
odd barn
Let me see
sour bolt
@rich depot He's from ontario, roughly 13% sales tax
rich depot
Ah
odd barn
so I included tax already
rich depot
10% in my place for VAT but 15% for computer components so possibly 25%
sour bolt
oof
rich depot
crai in bad SEA price
odd barn
Yeah, we just pay the percentages as one harmonized sales tax
rich depot
Well, that's understandable
sour bolt
For me it's 12% but there's government tax and provincial tax that make that up
odd barn
Would you care to take a look at my build and see if there's anything I can improve on?
sour bolt
5% government
7% province
dreamy hazel
with pleasure @odd barn