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what was it?
Would you look at that. Curecoin and EVGA are both showing up on our overtake list now. C'mon guys we just gotta keep it up for another 12.5 years!
damn it no I cant
pretty much the same as FAH
but you need to do a lot more signups as each group project is basically an entire FAH itself
but the BOINC client makes it easy and provides the links
thanks a lot
Everyone knows if it ain't LTT it don't count... jk jk
well, this one is going to give me a lot of points ๐
Just started this morning, can't wait to start finishing projects
well this makes no sense?
that top 3 isn't really going to change, not for a really long time
LTT isn't far behind
that top 3 isn't really going to change, not for a really long time
@silver wing Exactly. I saw that earlier and I had no idea what they were smoking when they thought of that.
If it was top teams in 24hour period it would at least be interesting
Unrelated but appropriate
that wasn't a response from TechLinked to the F@H tweet, it just happened to be the next tweet down in my feed
pitty
Only 10M behind PCMR at last update.
141M to 151M
No. Default and PCMR are different teams
PCMR is currently ranked 19th overall, though is quickly rising
Default is the team that your points go towards if you do not choose another team
thanks
does f@h benefit from cpu-heavy systems? i've got some many-core servers idling that i can throw at this but i think i recall it's a gpu workload really?
most jobs are GPU jobs, but there are CPU jobs here and there. ask @silver wing about huge core counts, he was just mentioning some issue today
His issues were related to a firewall, not directly to the core count itself
whats boinc? does it also do similar stuff as F@H?
does it also use the GPU and CPU as much as F@H?
because I might just do Boinc with my laptop
Boinc is the same idea, different software, different causes
But both use your system to calculate scientific stuff that most of us don't understand, but helps the smart people who do
Btw, does anybody know when team statistics get updated? I know its kinda trivial compared to handing out tasks but just wondering
hardcore OC updates like very 3 hours
every
anyone got any ideas why i'm swaping from waiting on WS assignment to WS Download but then going back to assignment?
@rich depot ?
No idea there without you showing your log
successfully folding on a random GTS 460 I had laying around collecting dust
I thought about folding on an old 760. but I gather it might be a bit old and slow!
if you have a random machine to host it on I say go for it, for me it's breathing life into old hardware I wouldn't otherwise use
all it took for me was installing the Nividia drivers and a couple of reboots, so it will most certainly be straightforward on a 760
I'd have to install it in my current pc, which I use a 2080ti to fold ๐
yikes, i've never personally experimented with having two different cards of different architectures getting recognized
I have a 980, 1080, 2060 and a 2070 in one rig and it's fine for the most part
Sounds semi reassuring!
Just have to read exactly what GPUs the driver covers but Nvidia is pretty good at supporting older cards in newer drivers
My laptop now has a week of uptime
Though it isn't exactly fast at folding.. but oh well
my sexy is still Folding from yesterday
is WU 11780 one of the Covid-19 ones?
Set it up on an older laptop
Now I got it running on a 4700HQ, ryzen 3700U, and a 8700K and a 2080ti
anyone else want to know why they did not hook up the new chiller to the folding rig?
Haven't seen a vid about it yet, so no clue what they use except the titans
THEY SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST MENTIONED IT! @unique sigil can you link the folding event in a pinned comment on the new vid to fixed the error of your ways?
or better yet tell alex to go and hook it up?
F@H needs great uptime more than playing with temps and clocks imo
heh
I would be interested in the production delta with the temps being so vastly different
i mean if you could spend 1 hour overclocking and chilling it to get 10% more performance. you would easy make that up in time spent folding.
I would not trust sub-zero long term. Nor would I want to have the excessive power usage of the OC'd part and the cooler running 24/7
wat? @rich depot
Y U NO LINK? (to the folding event on the new vid) ๐ข Do you not love us or something!
๐
YES BOIS We've made the big times! Now how do we cash in on this new found fame?
LOVE US @unique sigil ^^^^
@drifting otter from driver perspective 760 is not an issue, current driver supports anything GTX4xx and later if i remember correctly
Got a noob question for the folding at home thing, how do I select the covid-19 research, it's not in the drop down menu
right now i have "any disease" selected
your good then covid-19 is under any disease
ok thank you, is there a way to check which one I'm actually working on. maybe in the advanced control menu?
the web control and the advance control panel will display what WU you are working on
how do I know that I'm working on COVID-19 related projects?
If you're running a project that's listed here, you're fighting COVID-19:
CPU : 14328 - 14329 - 14530 - 14531
GPU : 11741 to 11764
perfect, thanks for the info.
no prob
@crimson niche also know covid 19 units are 1174x and 1175x
ok thank you
x=any number
right now i've got 11781
Random bsod 
Right now I got the nice WUs of "Downloading"
LTT Team: # 223518
@crimson niche also know covid 19 units are 1174x and 1175x
@supple laurel
Still more sensical than intel socket numbers.
Is it possible to fold on multiple computers?
I have 4 computers that I don't use, but 2 of them are so under powered that they probably aren't worth using
Every little bit of... heat. Helps. Lol
lol
Well guess we ain't beating pcmr https://twitter.com/AorusOfficial/status/1241169447135707137?s=09
๐ชAORUS is joining @foldingathome and @OfficialPCMR to beat #COVID19!
๐ฉWe are donating TEN high-performance PCs to their research team and labs across the world!
โค๏ธ๐๐๐
Let's #TeamUpFightOn together to beat COVID-19!
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#AORUS #GIGABYTE #GamersCanSaveTheWorld #PCMasterRace
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I don't have enough money, or really need another graphics card, but my Motherboard has an open slot. Any suggestions on a halfway decent card for Folding that won't cost me a ton?
I'm just chug chug chuggin away on my 1080ti, not really getting any CPU jobs
@spark salmon second hand 2060 best bang for your buck
i'm hoping to snag another to upgrade my 980 too
The 2060 will match or even out perform the 1080ti in folding
Good to know, thanks for the suggestion, and a quick google has Used results popping up under $250 which is very doable in a month or so once I get my tax return
so I've added a cpu slot, but it's not doing anything. Can i force it to work on something, or do i just have to wait until it's given a workload?
just wait sadly :/
gotcha
if you haven't gotten any work within 24hrs i'd pause the slot and unpause it
ah yes it's leadeater
There are no CPU WUs right now, demand for them is too high so they all get taken soon as they are generated
I only CPU fold so I'm RIP lol
oofies
also is the web interface completely broken for anyone else, it just constantly refreshes every second and nothing displays. I remember it doing this a few years ago also when i was doing some folding
@crimson niche chrome breaks sometimes. use incognito mode or another browser (firefox)
I use opera, but the incognito mode trick did work
hey guys, i just set up folding@home today and completed 3 WU so far. however i only got points for the first one, will i get credited for the other 2 later? or is it a bug and they're gone now
It can take a while for them to be credited, and if you're checking XOC stats it only updates every 3 hours...
If you go in to the Advanced Control and the logs what Project # is the work units that you finished?
whats XOC stats?
well anyways i guess ill check tomorrow to see if i got the points or not
2nd thing i wanted to ask was, when i set my power to light, it seems like the GPU stops working and waits for me to idle (even though i have 'while I'm working' selected)
and it turns on if i set the power to medium/high
is it just not possible to use the GPU on light? or do i have to go into the settings somewhere
You have to use high for GPU
14533 is the other
@warm vale Ah, I thought that might be the case.
14533 isn't crediting points at the moment. The collection server 128.252.203.2 is currently down/not collecting
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1167048-missing-credit-for-14533-work-units/
Is anyone missing credit for work units on WU 14533 uploaded to collection server 128.252.203.2? Im missing credit for two 14533 work units each worth 125k completed 8.5 and 6 hours ago. EOC stats on the left. The notepad data on the right is what I pulled from the F@Hclient l...
for me it works on medium though
ohh i see, and i guess the same applies to the other WU?
If you check the logs for that other work unit what server does it say it uploaded to?
128.252.203.2
And how long ago did they complete?
yeah same as the one above
Ah, same server, interesting, thanks!
140.163.4.231 I'm having issues uploading to
@rich depot , hmmm, how much is 2nd hand 2060s going for right now?
and no problem, thanks for the answers too ^^
Here in the UK?
7 hours without a work unit over night ๐ฆ
:I I have yet to get any WUs
hmmm, looking at some 2060s, seem a few have fallen under 300 bucks
wait really? how does it assign them? i got 2 about 30 min ago
260GPB @proven marlin
There's just issues getting work units due to all the demand. Just gotta get lucky
ah i see
Since mine failed to get a work unit multiple times it just stopped checking. Would only check again in another 3 hours when I looked at it
Yeah, that sucks. I've lost a decent chunk of points to that as well. At least 250k points yesterday
why would it stop checking though, and 3h seems like a long time to not check
think mine is in one of the long wait checks
If it just keeps sending requests to the server eventually everyone will effectively DDoS the server
Normally when you're folding you only contact the work server when you're downloading a new work unit. So once every few hours.
If it fails to connect to the server, it'll try again... and again... and again...
So it spaces them out.
First it tries again in a minute, then 2 minutes, then 5 minutes, etc
If the server goes down or has issues you would suddenly have thousands of people trying to connect to it every minute
ah okay thats a good point
Yo
If you ever do get that where it's no longer checking, just pause and resume and when you resume folding it will start checking again for a new work unit
but kinda hard to do while sleeping ๐
I just read that f@h is something like 470 pFLOPS right now?
Yep!
oh okay thats good to know :D
Jesus fuck
More than twice Summit super computer apparently
I wanna know how much energy is being used for that
wait i just got 2700 points
More than top 7 combined
<lots of energy>
I want to fold
is 128.252.203.2 back online
But electric is already so high :(
128.252.203.2's uptime is listed as "a few seconds" LOL! So I wouldn't call that "online" just yet ๐
but different work units will upload to different collection servers
ah ok ๐
why do GPU WUs seem to give a lot more points?
oh okay
yeah i do
does the # of points depend on how fast you finish the WU? i see it fluctuating quite a lot
it fluctuates
i see
yes, the points will vary depending how fast the GPU does the WU. That is the effect of the QRB
ohh okay
Also the faster you finish it, the more work units you can complete in a day
Yes, just use the same identity, team number, and passkey
yep, it is also the reason CPUs don't get similar high output. It takes them a tad longer to do a WU compare to a GPU
oh nice
though, I sure keep hoping to see F@H bring back bigadv
although i dont think my laptop will be too useful for this ๐
there is also BOINC projects that are CPU only
How is the BOINC team doing btw?
is there a point in doing both F@H and BOINC at the same time? my cpu is at 95% utilization atm with just F@H
if F@H is already hitting that much of the CPU, then don't run BOINC at the same time
You won't be able to do both BOINC and F@H on the CPU at the same time
Personally, I tend to have the GPU do WUs on F@H and the CPU do WUs from BOINC projects
^^^
do note though, running both can be a heavy load and depending on project and WUs can slow down the OS reponse
reason I tend to run BOINC at 85% load on CPU so it don't chug down the OS
ah okay, yeah i think ill stick to F@H for now then
is it possible to limit the CPU usage in F@H?
@fierce steppe , good amount of output in projects. Especially from miker07, that bugger got some beasts of rigs
Yeah he's been chugging through F@H as well
plus, I see Windows7ge pushing out a good amount of points to
you can set the thread number for the CPU on F@H
If you move the power slider to "Medium" it's supposed to limit the CPU to 75%
say, you have a 8 core /16 thread CPU, you can set F@H to use just four threads or eight thread instead of all 16
But yeah, changing the number of threads it uses is a more permanent way of doing it
What CPU/GPU do you have Eagle?
ah okay, i had it set on medium but im doing other stuff as well, so probably why it was at 95% total
ryzen 7 3700x and 2080 super
I should re-fire up on WCG on BOINC. Had my 1950X lately going hardcore on Rosetta and still doing a bit of Universe on the side (finally got to first place on that project xD)
Oh hot damn we got ourselves a power user here folks
xD
lol ๐
nice setup for sure
I'm holding out to update when Ampere drops
still sitting on an old 1080Ti
Once you complete 10 work units the QRB will kick in and you'll start getting a bonus for completing work units quickly... Should 10x the points you earn
Same, still rocking 1080Ti
though the 2060/2070/Super cards are looking mighty tasty
what does QRB stand for?
yeah....I was going to buy a 2080Ti when Nvidia teased those. Then they showed the price and I was like..........o hell no
The Base Credit is what you will get without a QRB. What new people get with less than 10 successful work units.
The Estimated Credit includes the quick return bonus
At least this 1080Ti is still being a solid card
1080ti performs pretty well on the new Core22 units
about the only few apps I wish I had more GPU power for is Blender and Monster Hunter World
yeah, I remember testing a few of the core 22s on mine
nice bump in point output
That 1.4M estimate is with the card power limited to 70%
100% goes up to around 1.6M
If you look at the PPD chart estimate thing
Each generation has doubled performance
yeah, I started back before the GTX580
so Ampere(?) could be insane
mine says 1505755 but i dont know what the power limit is set to
so, I sure remember how newer ones kept jumping in point output
oh yeah, I hope Ampere is a beast
:I just my wallet is going to hate me
Just hope this virus doesn't cause the price to rise due to production delays and shortages
Nvidia could always follow what AMD did with the 3990X...
Sell the 3080Ti for $3080 ๐
:I
I would not touch the GPU if they sell it that high
darn thing would cost more than my monitor and that is saying something
Whats that Canadian?
one dollar per Ti you get, seems fair.
us dollars
darn 2080Tis still go for over a grand here in the States
seen a few 2nd hand ones go for around 800-900 bucks
Still too new
No-one is getting rid of 2080Tis
Maybe once the next gen card is announced there might be a few more
mostly only see used ones be sold on the enthusiast forum boards.
same place I nabbed my used 1080Ti a few years back
I took a gamble on a "refurbished" 2080 Ti on eBay for $965 a few months ago. Was advertised as being factory refurbished by Asus and having a sealed label or whatever on it, but it didn't. Immediately started glitching out when I booted my computer. Got a refund and just went out and bought a 2080 Super instead.
xD those folks always going through cards to find good ones. So, I just nab up a golden when they sell one off. Reason I kinda miss the old 980Ti Amp I bought off one chap, 1600MHz on air, thing was crazy
I wonder if that was one of the early cards with the memory issues
yeah, early batches had those graphic issues
Could be. It was the Asus "Dual" model.
Yeah, that's something you're going to need to look out for when buying used.
yep, reason I stick to sellers that show the part number and model number on the card
Especially since most manufacturers won't accept RMA on used items
Yep. I knew it was a gamble, and eBay offers good recourse, especially if the seller claims the product fully works and is factory refurbished.
Make sure they show GPU-Z cause that will show the memory used
I had good luck with EVGA on 2nd hand cards
EVGA allows it I believe, but they're one of the few
though, that was back on an OG Titan
So it was a simple matter of returning it to the seller and getting a refund.
EVGA allows 2nd hand warranty on PSUs, but with limitations
It's good that you were able to get a refund though Naaaz
oh, was not aware they had warranty on 2nd hand PSUs.
I'm more than happy with my 2080 Super though.
I'll probably just get the 3080 Ti when it comes out anyway. ๐
xD as I got a 2nd hand EVGA PSU
Anyone else having problems sending work units?
overkill, but heck, good price
i had that issue when uploading to 128.252.203.2 but after a few tries it succeeded
128.252.203.2:8080
128.252.203.2 is currently down and not collecting work units
Gotcha.
and when it is up it hasn't been crediting them >.>
Hmm
Wonder if that's why I don't seem to be getting as many points as I should
its uptime is listed as "a few seconds" but it is periodically going down
Had a good 10-hour foldathon last night on three separate computers and only got maybe 200K
the servers are definitely getting hammer this month.
What project/WU are you trying to upload Naaz?
14533
That's the same one myself and Eagle have had issues with
Hmm.
I might need to add it to the list of known issues on the forum
Completely unrelated but what the hell are girl scout cookies? Plus we have just passed 10k active folders
They're cookies with little chunks of girl scouts in them
lmao
Sounds... tasty
Girl scout cookies are delicious. Too bad you probably won't be able to find them for a while.
Made by Soylent
Oh damn it got to 75% and failed this time.
I'm in britland, won't ever find them here
Does Britian have Girl Guides or Brownies or something?
i was a girl scout at one point, bleh
We do, but no biscuits from them
@snow fractal Luckily you escaped before they made you into a cookie.
No biscuits? lazy little shits tell them to get baking /s
Gegger you're a girl? shock
But yeah I think the biscuits are just how they fund their activities and stuff
And to think I've been picturing you as a 40 year old texan man...
You're welcome to picture me as a 40 year old Texan
how come CPU WUs are in high demand when GPUs are better at folding?
Might be less CPU WUs to go around
Not high in demand, just less supply
Plus every computer has a CPU but not every computer has a dedicated graphics card
ya, I've been waiting for 16hrs for a cpu wu
Oh can I now spotty ๐
I love how gegger has just glossed over it like I never said a think
Probably doesn't help that there's rumours going around saying that CPUs give more points if you limit them to 4 cores and have multiple slots...
perhaps
oh, this is nice. KitBash3D is giving a kit away for free so folks can make art during this whole virus deal
I'm used to bring called a guy
Well I'm sure you're very pretty
uh how do i respond to that
xD
IDEK
Us brits either say sorry or something super awkward. It's just coded into us. Like the canadians
@proven marlin Save me!
Well this is an awkward silence
xD
yes
though, I wonder if ya think I'm a guy or a gal. @rich depot xD
Your a girl

I don't
There are no girls on the internet
Everyone knows that geez
yep, mythical unicorns
I just find it funny. Even back playing PSO on Dreamcast and Gamecube, folks be like, wait, wut, ya a gal
especially when I played Doom 3 and Quake
xD
I only remember that because we once had a conversation and women in the military tbf
Ohh, I should hit 150M points soon
I'm looking out the window and i see people having a party but staying 1m apart
interesting
exactly
meanwhile im at 3500 points :D
time to shut them down
I was gonna say I would be hitting 1.5B soon but apparently I already did that...
where I work, the classes have try sticking to the 2m/6 foot rule, xD
TBH I just don't like people anyway
^^
2m does not equal 6 feet
been folding since October but haven't hit 75k points yet lol
2m = 6.5 ft
^
or 6'6"
yes i don't like being with people irl
My awkward britishness shows too much when I'm around people
Heh not for me
people keep think im canadian for some reason
As gegger just bare witness too... It never ends well
@timber grove why does it sound like fun?
I use to not like being around people, now, meh, I got to deal with the buggers anyway. May as well have fun depending how the person I'm dealing with is
I like to sometimes be around people with different personalities
except being tabletop games and board games, I love playing those with other folks
Fair enough! I'm always up for a chat
I miss the giant VCs we used to have on here ๐ฆ
xD especially if I got some rum and coke on hand
I'm more a whisky kinda person
me after getting rum and coke, I gett super chatty
oh, I will drink some whisky on occasions
about the only drink I'm not fond of is beer
I come from scot/irish heritage so it only seems right
I'm not a big beer person either
sounds correct
How you guys coping with eth human malware?
mostly staying home and playing games or doing projects. My job is consider mission critical, so I have to go to work even if Florida decides to go lock down later on
I can't tell if I'm one of the youngest here, or if I'm just boring...
Mind you I'm a brit so probably the boring one
hence, it been interesting see where I work try to minimize large groups and disinfect everything
xD
been working from home for 1 week so far
its been nice but im so unproductive when working from home ๐
Well ik the general LTT viewers are quite young which makes me think I'm usually not young. But folders seem more.... mature
I don't really watch LTT. xD mostly came to the forum because OCN went so dead
eh i watch csf and ltt when i see something interesting
though, I do watch some youtube channels, but those tend to be either like, practical engineering, history, or the occasional cat vids.
oh, or the silly 40K parody vids
xD
I do like my WWII vids
mhm twosetviolin is interesting
Also like the real engineering channel
its a good channel
yeah
silence
Irsh guy, top notch... wait was you asking me or fritz
oh nice, the vids definitely look interesting.
though, if you want something to laugh your butt off to: 40K parody stuff, look up If the Emperor had a Text to Speech Device
i watch rclifeon for when i need my 3d printing thirst quenched
Let me know how you fine it Ithanul
oh, another peep that is into 3d printing?
yees
yea i like them too
yay finally a cpu wu
nice
Theres a 3D printing channel on floatplane I think, cant remember the name of it
3D printing nerd
Any ideas? 01:00:46:WU07:FS04:0x22:WARNING:Console control signal 1 on PID 4088
if you open up task manager and go to the details tab, sort by PID. What is 4088?
Dont have access to that machine right now
I got no idea ๐คทโโ๏ธ
best guess I can give, some process interrupted the core process.
@snow fractal No, my WU, give it back!
thanks guys
no u lead
what does the 14 mean? is it 14 threads?
Yes
You need at least one free per GPU slot, and helps having another one free for general PC use...
ah okay
1 per GPU = 1 for OS
well i have power use set to medium right now but its not like i have a CPU WU anyways ๐
So if you have 2 GPUs, three thread free
will it ever use all 16 threads by itself? or does F@H already know to leave 1 for system
The default setting is to leave it free
You can edit the slot and change how much it uses
but if you set it to all 16 it won't be able to feed the GPU and the GPU performance will drop significantly
hmm okay well ill just leave it as -1 for now and change it later if i need to
woo got a CPU WU :D
nice
Is anyone still having issues uploading 11753 and 11758?
I am not around for too long, just dl folding think I have set it up right is anyone around to help check ? I want to leave my pc on
That looks right.
Did you get a passkey and put that in as well with your username and team info?
i didnt have either of those WU
my last few WUs were uploaded to different servers and they worked fine
yep
if I end it early it doesnt help the project at all?
itll pause, and then you can continue later
My 11758 unit has been stuck sending for what feels like the past week
Nope. It's all processed locally on your machine so you only get credit for it after you finish and it uploads the results back to their servers
Okay thanks @limpid pilot I wasn't sure if people were still having problems with it or not.
if i overheat and crash I can just come back to it? I should be fine just asking
yeah it saves every 15 min(default setting)
I may just be going crazy but I've had a unit being stuck sending for a while now. Could be different ones every time but I feel like it'd only be the one
If you overheat and crash it will most likely cause the work unit to fail.
You can pause and come back to it.
^
Nah, you're probably not going crazy.
Lots of people have been reporting issues with 11758 being stuck sending.
I just wasn't sure if it had been fixed yet or not
To check GPU usage, click on the GPU tab then change one of the graphs to Cuda
gpu is going x3 speed of the cpu
task manager doesn't show CUDA/Compute usage properly
128.252.203.2 work server is definitely down and there are multiple people reporting issues with it failing to upload WU 14533.
I've included it in the known issues notice in the folding event thread.
Thankfully 14533 is the only work unit from that server so it won't be affecting any other work units
ohh i see, was wondering why my gpu usage was at around 50%
We just beat PCMR again at the latest update! ๐ฅณ
Only 9M points behind them for the day
nice :D
well thanks for your help guys
Thanks for folding 
has folding@home said anything about WU 11757 and 11756. because i haven't been able to send them sence the 16th
I haven't heard of any issues with 11757 & 11756
If you check the logs does it say what server they're trying to connect to?
Any error messages when they fail to upload?
155.247.164.214 is the server for both of them
The servers online and not reporting any issues
Have you restarted your PC at all in the last few days?
yup
Hmm, I'm not sure then
a few times
Whats the error message show in the logs when it fails to upload?
Failed to send results to work server: Transfer failed
I've been trying to get fahclient to work for about 5 hours now. I guess i'm going to work on it some more tomorrow. lol
155.247.164.213 and .214 were the servers that were having issues with 11758 being stuck trying to upload
It's possible it was the same issue with those work units
If the work units have been trying to upload for a week then they will have expired.
You'll just need to dump them unfortunately. Set the GPU slot to finish and when its finished its current work unit and uploads it you can delete the GPU slot and it will dump those work old units that won't send
ok
It's possible that they just sent out more 11758 work units and less of the 11756/11757 work units which is why there aren't as many people reporting issues with those ones
true
It's possible that the same issue may be affecting work units
11753 - 11758
Are the WU servers still having issues?
My GPU hasn't been able to get a WU for the past 24hours
I tried pausing and restarting etc
ive been getting GPU WUs pretty regularly
i did only start folding today though so i have no idea :D
Oh its running now
could it be my GPU's too old?
Oooh
Yeah i noticed that.
Can only CPU fold with a mac ๐ฆ
Well, rip that 500k score then
If it makes you feel any better a desktop GTX 750 Ti gets around 75k PPD
so a GT 750 mobile gpu would be a lot less
still better than 20k on cpu.
๐
I wonder, if I run F@H in VMware on Mac, will it then be able to use the GPU?
Though I suppose the CPU hit will make it not worth it
I don't think so
You could always give it a try
eh too much effort, for what is really not even a drop in a bucket when you compare it to even moderately modern cards. I'll just keep the cpu on "wait for idle" and get some work in
Turned on our main editing PC with 2x @NVIDIA TESLA V100 32GB GPUs and started F@H again. Our old team is re-active at 234771. Each GPU is doing 3,400,000 points right now, total 6.8 million PPD on 2 GPUs. We'll get a liquid nitrogen system up-and-running this week for some f...
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When UFD Tech does a far better shout out than LMG does.... ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
:o
@silver wing Agreed
is den-fi not here?
ahahaahha
Still outperforming PCMR as of last update
oh wait denfi is in this server
@undone dust We require additional heating. Send some that heat over IP my way
200 km heatpipe 
fiber
We can only send over copper, the fabric requires an active link
god how many accounts does den have
I think UFD Tech might be a bit ambitious in their goal of reaching the top 100 teams.
https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=244613
To get in top 100 you need over 3.2 Billion points.
ohh wow
at the height of folding month we were getting 3.5b PPD
Ouch
I got my fold rig running, and the cpu is running above max temp for some reason lmao
Not really sure why..
Thats like getting your current employees to train their replacements
I would be ok with that
still not getting WUs, so frustrating
@fringe sequoia send it louis rossman!
The part that died wouldn't be hard to fix
but since it legit sparked, it's untelling what else exploded
Anyone know how to get the cpu to download ws assignment
Just wait for it to find a new work unit...
If it hasn't found one in a while try pausing the client and resuming folding again and it will force it to check for a new work unit
so I wasn't getting WUs cos FAH didn't like the % ram in use on my servers....
A lot of people folding at the moment, they're struggling to get enough CPU work units out to everyone
Time to kick those other users off the server then
they are mine, just have to stop the shit using the ram lol
close your one chrome tab and use the advanced control....
I got a ws assignment
Someone tell me why I shouldn't buy a 2080super
get a 2080ti?
because you should buy me a 2080s
Someone tell me why I should buy a 2080ti
Someone tell me why leadeater hasn't mourned my 660
Because the 1080ti has the highest PPD of anything that isnt too stupid price
I'm looking for gaming more than PPD
do you play in 4k?
^^
Not really, VR tho
You are asking in the Folding section though so yknow
Yes
did you lose income due to covid?
Lolno, my work wouldn't close unless the gov was going to cut them a check. I have leave too if I get sick.
Does someone have a link to the PPD gpu spreadsheets
i mean i say go for it then. but do know that MAYBE 30xx might be coming out in 3-6ish months
found it
GTX1080Ti is still a really good gaming GPU... If you can find a cheap 2nd hand one it still isn't a bad idea
So I don't think there's any point in running my computer that I had dedicated to running the FAH program.. The estimated ppd on it is about 15,500. When I run it on my main computer the PPD is 1,115,891 lol
Yeah... Maybe not ๐
There can be a huge gap in points depending on hardware
The 660 was only getting 60k lol
I have another gpu I could put in there but I mean..it's not much of a bump up either lol
It would probably get me to somewhere around 60k
I could always get the 2070s a friend.. that would help right? xD
SLI would be awesome if it didn't have to be supported by the game
i mean unless your running sli 2080ti's just save the money and buy 1 nicer card
Me: tries to catch up on the F@H thread
Me 4 hours later:
See, two 2070s running in sli will easily outperform a 2080ti and cost less so.. that's why it would be nice
Just not nice for Nvidia
or game support
I know this is random for folding chat, but i wanna give it back to yall if I can. Anyone got an EVGA affiliate code?
plus SLI kinda sucks with micro stuttering
personally never had a problem with that but crossfire so ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Neither have I but I've always been in the "I'll buy a big power supply and SLI/crossfire capable motherboard and later I'll add a 2nd graphics card to make my system even fasterer!" but never actually did it camp
i don't know if sli 70s would top a 2080ti. maybe in 1440. but no way in 4k
Just going by issues I've heard from other people
I only have the motherboard that'll support sli because x570 -_-
seems like every new game the comes out has no crossfire support and forcing it on does nothing
o that temping..... newegg has a refurbished gigabyte 2080ti for 900...........
We might want to go to another channel with this.. not sure how strict they are on being off-topic but I don't think we're talking about folding anymore lol
hdd just failed in server, alarm so annoying
LTT's best week folding so far, despite all the server issues
4,645,072,843 points from 185,711 work units
gpu is in full bore mode with this WU
last WU was only drawing like half TDP and only clocked to 1500 MHz ๐ฎ
Anyone else notice this behavior?
Sitting on FahCore_22
it depends on what program your using to report. i'm not sure on GPUZ but most WU only use the cuda/opencl? cores so some programs only the gpu using part of it as the video encode/decode sit idle but those cores will be at 100%
GTX 1080 Ti is 3 years old. Anyone else feel old?
my i7-2700k is from 2011, def feel old. I don't even fold on it because performance isn't the best. Spectre and Meltdown hit it hard
lol i still have my 2500k system from 2011 sitting in the corner of my room
when you find 4x E5-2640 in your cupboard but are disappointed because you're sure you had some E5-2670's
Hey Leadeater, if F@H is producing 470TFLOPs
and LTT is producing 10% of the total points
Does that mean the LTT team is producing ~45TFLOPs of processing power?
or does it not work that way? ๐ค
mgfhfggfgm i forgot i had notifs on for this chan
I guess with QRB and stuff points does not equal processing power
ohhh found it
you have a cpu cupboard?!?!
yes that what it should mean
๐ฆ my starting overnight job is only 50mins
kind of....
for CPU but my GPU is 4 hours
if you count 10x L5630 6x X5650, 4x E5-2640, 2x E5-2630 as a cupboard of cpus
slowly backs away
I know I left some out lol
A CPU WU that only takes 50 minutes to complete? How many points is that worth, 42?
3k
I'm pretty sure my avg wu time is like 6 days
overclocked 2700x to 4.2 and let it just eat WU's
so should I upgrade me server from 1x E5-2620 to 2x E-2648L or 2x E5-2640 or 1x E5-2670?
what votage are you running on that cpu
1.4
If LTT keeps going at current rate we can take 4th spot in 2 weeks
or 2x E5-2630v2
4th place, Hardware.no is 13Billion points ahead of us.
We're gaining at a rate of 1 billion points per day
wow
and the folding event starts next weekend i bet our numbers go up
Hopefully LTTs folding video comes out prior to the event starting
i don't know if they will floatplane it for a week. but they finished shooting it on friday, he talked about during the wan show
I can just imagine @rich depot dealing with a few thousand sign ups the day before the event starts
moar powar
well off to bed
ahhh damn it
so I just realized when I ordered the 2nd CPU board for my server I didn't get a heatsink
just....
oof
damn it!

you can be an Alex and make a janky ass heatsink
such an IBM thing to do
sell you the part that allows you to put the CPU in
doesn't come with heatink
whyyyyyy
ebay time
O I didn't realize lead was a mod. I didn't mean to offend you, I just steered things off topic and didn't want to get anyone in trouble. lol.
offend me where? kinda in the middle of upgrading server so eh not reading much lol
No Spotty lol
Sorry I was a little late to respond
I meant caatra, wrong name I looked at
I can't multitask
I'm lost... moving on lol
rtfm strikes again
got part left over.... it's the first part you're supposed to put in before the CPU board
fail
๐
Even on the same core FahCore_22 I restarted my WU and GPU clock is back to 1500 MHz with around 50% TDP. Odd
points per day drops about 200k whenever it does this. ๐ฎ
Which core22 WU is it? Only ones I've seen going around lately are the 14310's and they're an absolute bastard
11776
ohh wait I'm stupid
I was thinking Core21
There is a bit of variance between different work units
yee this is the exact same WU. gpu was running full bore before I restarted, fire it back up same WU and now its clocked down
believe it showed 780kish before restart, now at 580kish after restarts.
Same WU 11776, was the exact same, just had to reboot before finishing it.
1660 Ti
14310 is one of the old Core21 WUs, they suck ๐ฆ
Takes my 1080ti over 4 hours to complete
Latest update...
LTT: 181M
PCMR: 149M
Smashing them
will running my laptop full tilt degrade battery life?
it gets to around 70 for CPU and GPU, 60 for PCH and 45 for SSD
seems they are running low on CPU and GPU WUs now
mostly it's power on hours that matters
well 24/7, I plugged it into the wall, so it shouldn't be using alot of battery
heat does but only if it's quite above normal, for a laptop the battery and motherboard fail first
and it's not PCH temp that does it it's internal temps around power delivery
where do I see that?
sadly can't, best is surface temp using touch
around the battery area, it's pretty cold to the touch
the exhaust section of the laptop burns
the battery discharges at abound 0.7w
so should I worry about my laptop abttery?
I wouldn't but a nice bit a airflow over the laptop itself wouldn't hurt
like a desk fan etc
I had my laptop at an open window all day yesterday and got my temps down to about 50-60C with my fans whining.
Cool
why are all the cpu tasks so small?
they can be done quickly
yeah but I'd rather have a big boy cpu task and not care for a couple hours
like the estimated credit is 2k and I have a 9900k
it takes half an hour
after a month we might be 4th
are there awards for getting a bunch of pts?
Self Inflating Egos ๐
i see
I wonder how long it would take, at the rate it is going, for F@H to be at a point of diminishing returns
Basically already is, hard to know. We can only process WUs if they exist and there are two critical points there, servers can generate WUs fast enough and more importantly scientist submitting enough work
I mean when it is at that point, wouldn't it be the best interest for the scientists to actually sit down and analyze instead of pumping out a bunch of wu that may or may not come in handy?
FAH does both those tasks
@rich depot they actually do that, that is the whole point
?
A lot of the CPU tasks analyze the more abstract GPU tasks as well as other stuff
hm
@rich depot and only the "correct" results are returned to the scientist, which then analyses them further
what renders a result correct or incorrect?
so while there is millions of work units for any given project, only few thousand will match the required results, which then gets analysed further by the scientist and probably given another iteration via f@h
it's not a lot different to math and a mathematical theory and then having to prove the theory
All I know is work unit comes in, bake at 65ยฐC for 2 hours and work unit goes out
do boinc also taxe on the GPU and CPU as hard as F@H?
yes
BOINC does pretty much the same thing, but for different projects. Some health stuff, some maths stuff, analysing radio signals from space, etc
are there alot of boinc Wus?
more than you could dream of
I might just do boinc then when F@H runs out of WU
there is a command you get tell your client to get bigger tasks, I thought? @rich depot
-bigadv I think
what command?
FAH is BOINC btw, basically. They are essentially the same thing and FAH would be a project within BOINC, if it were part of BOINC
So you don't really do BOINC, you do a BOINC project like World Community Grid
does it actually do stuff? cause it's super slow
That has a list of flags
any mobile device is going to suck
how can I add a command in F@H?
but if you can get a billion doing it then it's a lot of compute power
Configre > Expert
extra client opt?
depending on the flag, yes
^^^
Plus with the priority on generating Covid-19 units they wouldn't have any anyway
oh
You can still set the client in to Beta mode to get beta work units, but they are unstable and likely to crash
Honestly the best thing to do is just leave it alone
my CPU isn't getting any tasks
and when it gets tasks, it get insignificant tasks that takes 30 min to complete
#helpmyCPUistoopowerful
I just want a 10 hour CPU task where I can just not care
just keep F@H up and you shouldn't have to care
it will come as it is available, right?
oh, anyways to set interval lower?
Don't mind me, just passing through with my #helpmyCPUistoopowerful
I was wondering the same
you could just set FAH to use 1 thread, that'll make it take 10 hours
And you'll lose the quick return bonus
Big boi problems
no more cpu tasks for today lol
@fierce steppe looks like i finished 10 WU :D
i am failing to upload WU result, rip
what do you mean. GPU WU
project 11760
servers are probably failing, getting Transfer failed
uploaded on 4th try
Didn't get credited for a WU in the latest update. WU 11776
Checking logs it doesn't show the QRB on it either.
08:49:19:WU00:FS00:Final credit estimate, 15396.00 points
Hi, are people finding WU at the moment?
It can take a few attempts, but I've been getting a few today
I'm on attempt 7
How long does it say for the Next Attempt:?
it's about 2 minutes inbetweena attempts
My final credit is always what the value it will say on the project page. I never get any extra credit, like what my estimated credit says I should be getting.
2 minutes in between attempts is fine, just let it run and search for available WUs
If it ends up like 30 min+ between attempts pause the client and resume and it'll reset the timer
ok thanks @fierce steppe
@toxic apex if your F@H username is "Chromos" then it looks like its only counted 9 successful work units from you so far.
You need a passkey + 10 WUs before you get the bonus points
oh ok, ya it is. I got my passkey setup. guess I need to break 10+
my 11th is folding right now
Thanks @fierce steppe
Well 1 WU in default, 4 in Barnacules and 5 in PCMR.
So yeah this will be my 11th
we are still outperforming PCMR!
Yes i am
NICE!
have they introduced an option to fold only for coronavirus yet?
Now my GPU have gotten WUs fine but my CPU havent
@limber onyx As long as you have "Any Disease" selected you will always fold for Covid19 as long as there is something available for you to fold. In the interim while those work units are being sorted out on the researches side you may be given non-Covid19 tasks, but it's not from lack of trying on their part
As long as you keep the application running, you will definitely be getting Covid19 work units a few times a day or more
^^
GG PCMR GG
GG
@rich depot I'm so glad I was actually a not-completely-insignificant part of our new point lead, I cleared 750,000 points this morning and I don't think the totals are even fully updated yet.
Nice, thanks for getting involved!
Yeee boi. Gotta hit that MIL
My GPU is doing 11746 (Coronavirus) and my CPU is doing nothing
@pseudo abyss That's par for the course recently, they just can't produce as many CPU Work Units to meet the Volunteer response, they're barley putting out more than a few GPU Work units per volunteer per day. Right now the volunteer networks processing power is more powerful than the top 7 individual Supercomputers around the world combined.
They are just concentrating on generating GPU WUs as it isn't much more intensive for them to generate GPU WUs vs CPU WUs but they get much more scientific data from GPU WUs
I had only heard they were producing WU's as fast as they could, I didn't know that GPU data was more useful
It's not that it is more useful persay, it's just that GPUs can do much more work in the same amount of time. Thats why you get more points on a GPU. The point count is very roughly related to the amount of work done
would be nice if ltt can get their receiving server and stuff setup fast. Cause I get that gpu's are more effective, but it's also kinda a waste of all the cpu's that are now on idle, wanting to help
For all we know it is already set up... they aren't magic. When you go from 35K people to close to 500K the while backend infrastructure just isnt designed to handle it. And there is more to it than simply getting another server or two up. Trust me this, I spent 6 years studying it
Hello
I'm a total newb to the folding@home scene - I've set up three boxes to join the LTT campaign, but they're all stuck at "downloading" (all other config seems to be correct, and I've read all the FAQs I can find)
Just wondering if there are bottlenecks on the F@H side, or whether there's something obvious I'm missing
Any tips welcome
@rich depot , yeah, as someone that does servers setup and admin duty in the Guard. :I It sure ain't simple. Especially if you need IP ranges for a new setup. The old stack we had would take three days to setup on a good day with folks that knew the process. Have yet to do such on the new stack, but I had to get a stack up down range once. Took over a bloody week because everything had to match up and be done right. (plus, only two of us had experience with the specific stack)
Exactly! And then when you add load balancing and the fact that it needs to be stored in a some form of repository, validity of the results checked, distributing the WUs to the work servers and making sure all of them are synced up for stats. It must be a nightmare for a team that has never really dealt with more than 40-50K users
@rigid mulch It's just the F@H servers
I imagined as such
think there only a few of us in the unit that touch those. if you ever touch one, check, the bloody clock time
If I had bandwidth I could contribute on the server side, but best I can do is set up a few clients
that will royally bite you in the rear end if not set right
Exactly, syncing is the worst issue on large scale set ups like this
indeed, heck, one of the first steps in a lot of our equipment is checking the clock and setting it right
When it comes to things like YT and netflix syncing isn't so much a problem as they have a network topology designed for them to work as individual nodes that are most just caching. But when you get to something like F@H it has to be synced up pretty much perfectly
I am glad it's not me, put it that way
video don't require many handshakes on packets to say, a client requesting data and needing to make sure the data is correct and the client got everything
I have 3500 entries to validate by hand on my own.
I have been doing 12-14 hour days on the forums and this sheet, it needs doing. Now I remember why we have a team usually
It seems to become longer and longer time between each download attempt every time it fails to do it
the biggest folding event to date was like 600 people, so I thought I can do that on my own... Little did I know it would slowly break me with 3.5K entries
@pseudo abyss It does to stop the clients basically DDOSing the server
Ifd it tried every 10 seconds and all 500K clients were hitting the servers you'd never get them back up
at least the first attempt
Please don't do that unless it's over 30 min wait time...
Beautiful
I really wanna grab another 2060 but I'm already pulling over 1.5Kw...
it's like 30C in this room... 70+% humidity Not fun
@fierce steppe if you're about can you DM me please
ouch, 3,5K entries. That is a lot to go through for sure. Just make sure to take care of yourself.
Yes! I can't wait for my tax return so I can get a 2060 going myself for secondary currently unused GPU slot. I'm lucky it's still cold here, I'm running my 1080ti at 90%+ capacity non stop and my temp is a stable 64 Degrees
@rich depot if you DM me your Venmo I'd be happy to buy you a couple RedBulls or whatevers
tax return.......I still waiting on some papers still. :I why it is always the stock ones that take so long to get
@proven marlin I'm in isolation for the next 12 weeks, gotta keep myself busy
@spark salmon What is venmo?
ah, just make sure to take breaks and do something you enjoy
as someone that dealt being downrange on 12-16 hour shifts and stuck in a tent looking at screens. Ya need breaks at times. Otherwise, you can get mentally worn down
@Spectrum it's a free secure money transfer app, its like a VPN for your bank account
I will try
@spark salmon Hmm... I don't why that sounds dodgy to me lol I so distrustful
Honestly I don't expect anything in return
No worries, but it is a convenient app, I recommend doing a Google on it when you aren't so busy
venmo is usually a good one
Maybe! Tbh I just use my streamlabs donation page if I am receiving money as it just goes in my paypal and it's confidential
our folks that handle the snack bar at the unit has the option to pay with that for snacks
xD actually, we have to use that or paypal to pay now. No cash with the current requirements
sounds like a good idea tbh anyway


