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rich depot
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using Web plus might because i pressed fifnish project and stop folding

silver wing
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oohhh

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oooh

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found out why big servers not get WUs

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I can fix this ๐Ÿ™‚

rich depot
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what was it?

fierce steppe
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Would you look at that. Curecoin and EVGA are both showing up on our overtake list now. C'mon guys we just gotta keep it up for another 12.5 years!

silver wing
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damn it no I cant

rich depot
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fuf

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hwo does boinc work

silver wing
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pretty much the same as FAH

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but you need to do a lot more signups as each group project is basically an entire FAH itself

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but the BOINC client makes it easy and provides the links

rich depot
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thanks a lot

vernal oasis
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soonish 100 mil for me..

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in total that is, not to ltt team

rich depot
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Everyone knows if it ain't LTT it don't count... jk jk

mystic hollow
warped warren
silver wing
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well this makes no sense?

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that top 3 isn't really going to change, not for a really long time

warped warren
fierce steppe
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that top 3 isn't really going to change, not for a really long time
@silver wing Exactly. I saw that earlier and I had no idea what they were smoking when they thought of that.
If it was top teams in 24hour period it would at least be interesting

silver wing
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yep

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next update - 2 years

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"something changed, finally"

fierce steppe
silver wing
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lol

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how did I not see that

fierce steppe
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that wasn't a response from TechLinked to the F@H tweet, it just happened to be the next tweet down in my feed

silver wing
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pitty

fierce steppe
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Only 10M behind PCMR at last update.
141M to 151M

last imp
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pcmr is the same as default?

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thats what came when i searched for pcmr on F@H

fierce steppe
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No. Default and PCMR are different teams

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PCMR is currently ranked 19th overall, though is quickly rising

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Default is the team that your points go towards if you do not choose another team

last imp
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thanks

rich crane
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does f@h benefit from cpu-heavy systems? i've got some many-core servers idling that i can throw at this but i think i recall it's a gpu workload really?

mystic hollow
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most jobs are GPU jobs, but there are CPU jobs here and there. ask @silver wing about huge core counts, he was just mentioning some issue today

rich depot
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His issues were related to a firewall, not directly to the core count itself

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whats boinc? does it also do similar stuff as F@H?

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does it also use the GPU and CPU as much as F@H?

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because I might just do Boinc with my laptop

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Boinc is the same idea, different software, different causes

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But both use your system to calculate scientific stuff that most of us don't understand, but helps the smart people who do

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Btw, does anybody know when team statistics get updated? I know its kinda trivial compared to handing out tasks but just wondering

supple laurel
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hardcore OC updates like very 3 hours

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every

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anyone got any ideas why i'm swaping from waiting on WS assignment to WS Download but then going back to assignment?

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@rich depot ?

rich depot
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No idea there without you showing your log

supple laurel
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well it DL this time...

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just took 4 trys at DL and 18 pings for a WU......

fickle needle
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successfully folding on a random GTS 460 I had laying around collecting dust

drifting otter
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I thought about folding on an old 760. but I gather it might be a bit old and slow!

fickle needle
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if you have a random machine to host it on I say go for it, for me it's breathing life into old hardware I wouldn't otherwise use

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all it took for me was installing the Nividia drivers and a couple of reboots, so it will most certainly be straightforward on a 760

drifting otter
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I'd have to install it in my current pc, which I use a 2080ti to fold ๐Ÿ˜‚

fickle needle
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yikes, i've never personally experimented with having two different cards of different architectures getting recognized

rich depot
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I have a 980, 1080, 2060 and a 2070 in one rig and it's fine for the most part

drifting otter
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Sounds semi reassuring!

rich depot
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Just have to read exactly what GPUs the driver covers but Nvidia is pretty good at supporting older cards in newer drivers

vernal oasis
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My laptop now has a week of uptime

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Though it isn't exactly fast at folding.. but oh well

rich depot
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my sexy is still Folding from yesterday

bright swan
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is WU 11780 one of the Covid-19 ones?

vernal oasis
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Set it up on an older laptop

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Now I got it running on a 4700HQ, ryzen 3700U, and a 8700K and a 2080ti

supple laurel
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anyone else want to know why they did not hook up the new chiller to the folding rig?

rich depot
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Haven't seen a vid about it yet, so no clue what they use except the titans

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THEY SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST MENTIONED IT! @unique sigil can you link the folding event in a pinned comment on the new vid to fixed the error of your ways?

supple laurel
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or better yet tell alex to go and hook it up?

rich depot
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F@H needs great uptime more than playing with temps and clocks imo

supple laurel
rich depot
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heh

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I would be interested in the production delta with the temps being so vastly different

supple laurel
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i mean if you could spend 1 hour overclocking and chilling it to get 10% more performance. you would easy make that up in time spent folding.

rich depot
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I would not trust sub-zero long term. Nor would I want to have the excessive power usage of the OC'd part and the cooler running 24/7

unique sigil
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wat? @rich depot

rich depot
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Y U NO LINK? (to the folding event on the new vid) ๐Ÿ˜ข Do you not love us or something!

vernal oasis
rich depot
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YES BOIS We've made the big times! Now how do we cash in on this new found fame?

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LOVE US @unique sigil ^^^^

mystic hollow
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@drifting otter from driver perspective 760 is not an issue, current driver supports anything GTX4xx and later if i remember correctly

crimson niche
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Got a noob question for the folding at home thing, how do I select the covid-19 research, it's not in the drop down menu

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right now i have "any disease" selected

timber grove
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your good then covid-19 is under any disease

rich depot
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^^^^

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COVID is high priority, so if a COVID WU is there, you will get served it

crimson niche
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ok thank you, is there a way to check which one I'm actually working on. maybe in the advanced control menu?

timber grove
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the web control and the advance control panel will display what WU you are working on

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how do I know that I'm working on COVID-19 related projects?
If you're running a project that's listed here, you're fighting COVID-19:
CPU : 14328 - 14329 - 14530 - 14531
GPU : 11741 to 11764

crimson niche
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perfect, thanks for the info.

timber grove
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no prob

rich depot
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We have produced more than PCMR for this update

supple laurel
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@crimson niche also know covid 19 units are 1174x and 1175x

crimson niche
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ok thank you

supple laurel
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x=any number

crimson niche
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right now i've got 11781

vernal oasis
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Random bsod monkaS

pseudo abyss
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Right now I got the nice WUs of "Downloading"

stark bough
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LTT Team: # 223518

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@crimson niche also know covid 19 units are 1174x and 1175x
@supple laurel
Still more sensical than intel socket numbers.
LUL

hazy flax
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Is it possible to fold on multiple computers?

stark bough
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Yes.

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Just use your credentials on multiple computers

hazy flax
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I have 4 computers that I don't use, but 2 of them are so under powered that they probably aren't worth using

stark bough
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Every little bit of... heat. Helps. Lol

hazy flax
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lol

bright swan
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๐Ÿ’ชAORUS is joining @foldingathome and @OfficialPCMR to beat #COVID19!
๐ŸšฉWe are donating TEN high-performance PCs to their research team and labs across the world!
โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’›
Let's #TeamUpFightOn together to beat COVID-19!
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#AORUS #GIGABYTE #GamersCanSaveTheWorld #PCMasterRace

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hazy flax
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I'll buy some more graphics cards

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We got this

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lol

spark salmon
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I don't have enough money, or really need another graphics card, but my Motherboard has an open slot. Any suggestions on a halfway decent card for Folding that won't cost me a ton?

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I'm just chug chug chuggin away on my 1080ti, not really getting any CPU jobs

rich depot
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@spark salmon second hand 2060 best bang for your buck

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i'm hoping to snag another to upgrade my 980 too

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The 2060 will match or even out perform the 1080ti in folding

spark salmon
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Good to know, thanks for the suggestion, and a quick google has Used results popping up under $250 which is very doable in a month or so once I get my tax return

crimson niche
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so I've added a cpu slot, but it's not doing anything. Can i force it to work on something, or do i just have to wait until it's given a workload?

snow fractal
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just wait sadly :/

crimson niche
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gotcha

snow fractal
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if you haven't gotten any work within 24hrs i'd pause the slot and unpause it

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ah yes it's leadeater

silver wing
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There are no CPU WUs right now, demand for them is too high so they all get taken soon as they are generated

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I only CPU fold so I'm RIP lol

snow fractal
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oofies

crimson niche
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also is the web interface completely broken for anyone else, it just constantly refreshes every second and nothing displays. I remember it doing this a few years ago also when i was doing some folding

snow fractal
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use different browser or incognito

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advanced control is also an option

crimson niche
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yeah i've been using advanced

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and the incognito window worked, thank you

mystic hollow
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@crimson niche chrome breaks sometimes. use incognito mode or another browser (firefox)

crimson niche
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I use opera, but the incognito mode trick did work

warm vale
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hey guys, i just set up folding@home today and completed 3 WU so far. however i only got points for the first one, will i get credited for the other 2 later? or is it a bug and they're gone now

fierce steppe
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It can take a while for them to be credited, and if you're checking XOC stats it only updates every 3 hours...

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If you go in to the Advanced Control and the logs what Project # is the work units that you finished?

warm vale
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whats XOC stats?

fierce steppe
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XOC = Extreme Overclocking

warm vale
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14052 was one of them i think

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14533 is the other

rich depot
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Another update where we out perform PCMR!

warm vale
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well anyways i guess ill check tomorrow to see if i got the points or not

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2nd thing i wanted to ask was, when i set my power to light, it seems like the GPU stops working and waits for me to idle (even though i have 'while I'm working' selected)

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and it turns on if i set the power to medium/high

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is it just not possible to use the GPU on light? or do i have to go into the settings somewhere

rich depot
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You have to use high for GPU

fierce steppe
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14533 is the other
@warm vale Ah, I thought that might be the case.
14533 isn't crediting points at the moment. The collection server 128.252.203.2 is currently down/not collecting

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1167048-missing-credit-for-14533-work-units/

warm vale
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for me it works on medium though

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ohh i see, and i guess the same applies to the other WU?

fierce steppe
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If you check the logs for that other work unit what server does it say it uploaded to?

warm vale
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128.252.203.2

fierce steppe
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And how long ago did they complete?

warm vale
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yeah same as the one above

fierce steppe
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Ah, same server, interesting, thanks!

warm vale
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hmm i dont see any timestamps

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but it was about 3-4 hours ago

rich depot
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140.163.4.231 I'm having issues uploading to

proven marlin
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@rich depot , hmmm, how much is 2nd hand 2060s going for right now?

warm vale
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and no problem, thanks for the answers too ^^

rich depot
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Here in the UK?

proven marlin
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been meaning to finally update the 960 in my 2nd rig

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I'm in the States

fierce steppe
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7 hours without a work unit over night ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

proven marlin
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:I I have yet to get any WUs

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hmmm, looking at some 2060s, seem a few have fallen under 300 bucks

warm vale
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wait really? how does it assign them? i got 2 about 30 min ago

rich depot
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260GPB @proven marlin

fierce steppe
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There's just issues getting work units due to all the demand. Just gotta get lucky

warm vale
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ah i see

fierce steppe
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Since mine failed to get a work unit multiple times it just stopped checking. Would only check again in another 3 hours when I looked at it

warm vale
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i mean 2/3 of mine didnt really work yet xD

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got 370 points for my first one ๐Ÿ˜„

fierce steppe
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Yeah, that sucks. I've lost a decent chunk of points to that as well. At least 250k points yesterday

warm vale
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why would it stop checking though, and 3h seems like a long time to not check

proven marlin
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think mine is in one of the long wait checks

fierce steppe
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If it just keeps sending requests to the server eventually everyone will effectively DDoS the server

warm vale
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yeah i suppose

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but still 3h is quite a long time

fierce steppe
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Normally when you're folding you only contact the work server when you're downloading a new work unit. So once every few hours.
If it fails to connect to the server, it'll try again... and again... and again...
So it spaces them out.
First it tries again in a minute, then 2 minutes, then 5 minutes, etc

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If the server goes down or has issues you would suddenly have thousands of people trying to connect to it every minute

warm vale
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ah okay thats a good point

craggy grove
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Yo

fierce steppe
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If you ever do get that where it's no longer checking, just pause and resume and when you resume folding it will start checking again for a new work unit

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but kinda hard to do while sleeping ๐Ÿ˜„

craggy grove
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I just read that f@h is something like 470 pFLOPS right now?

fierce steppe
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Yep!

warm vale
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oh okay thats good to know :D

craggy grove
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Jesus fuck

fierce steppe
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More than twice Summit super computer apparently

craggy grove
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I wanna know how much energy is being used for that

warm vale
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wait i just got 2700 points

craggy grove
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More than top 7 combined

fierce steppe
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<lots of energy>

craggy grove
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I want to fold

warm vale
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is 128.252.203.2 back online

craggy grove
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But electric is already so high :(

fierce steppe
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128.252.203.2's uptime is listed as "a few seconds" LOL! So I wouldn't call that "online" just yet ๐Ÿ˜„

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but different work units will upload to different collection servers

warm vale
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ah ok ๐Ÿ˜„

fierce steppe
warm vale
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why do GPU WUs seem to give a lot more points?

fierce steppe
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GPUs are better at folding

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btw do you have a passkey?

warm vale
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oh okay

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yeah i do

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does the # of points depend on how fast you finish the WU? i see it fluctuating quite a lot

timber grove
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it fluctuates

warm vale
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i see

proven marlin
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yes, the points will vary depending how fast the GPU does the WU. That is the effect of the QRB

warm vale
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ohh okay

fierce steppe
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Also the faster you finish it, the more work units you can complete in a day

warm vale
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yeah makes sense

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is it possible to use the same account on multiple devices?

fierce steppe
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Yes, just use the same identity, team number, and passkey

proven marlin
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yep, it is also the reason CPUs don't get similar high output. It takes them a tad longer to do a WU compare to a GPU

warm vale
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oh nice

proven marlin
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though, I sure keep hoping to see F@H bring back bigadv

warm vale
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although i dont think my laptop will be too useful for this ๐Ÿ˜„

proven marlin
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there is also BOINC projects that are CPU only

fierce steppe
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How is the BOINC team doing btw?

warm vale
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is there a point in doing both F@H and BOINC at the same time? my cpu is at 95% utilization atm with just F@H

proven marlin
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if F@H is already hitting that much of the CPU, then don't run BOINC at the same time

fierce steppe
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You won't be able to do both BOINC and F@H on the CPU at the same time

proven marlin
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Personally, I tend to have the GPU do WUs on F@H and the CPU do WUs from BOINC projects

fierce steppe
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^^^

proven marlin
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do note though, running both can be a heavy load and depending on project and WUs can slow down the OS reponse

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reason I tend to run BOINC at 85% load on CPU so it don't chug down the OS

warm vale
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ah okay, yeah i think ill stick to F@H for now then

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is it possible to limit the CPU usage in F@H?

proven marlin
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@fierce steppe , good amount of output in projects. Especially from miker07, that bugger got some beasts of rigs

fierce steppe
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Yeah he's been chugging through F@H as well

proven marlin
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plus, I see Windows7ge pushing out a good amount of points to

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you can set the thread number for the CPU on F@H

fierce steppe
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If you move the power slider to "Medium" it's supposed to limit the CPU to 75%

proven marlin
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say, you have a 8 core /16 thread CPU, you can set F@H to use just four threads or eight thread instead of all 16

fierce steppe
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But yeah, changing the number of threads it uses is a more permanent way of doing it

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What CPU/GPU do you have Eagle?

warm vale
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ah okay, i had it set on medium but im doing other stuff as well, so probably why it was at 95% total

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ryzen 7 3700x and 2080 super

proven marlin
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I should re-fire up on WCG on BOINC. Had my 1950X lately going hardcore on Rosetta and still doing a bit of Universe on the side (finally got to first place on that project xD)

fierce steppe
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Oh hot damn we got ourselves a power user here folks

proven marlin
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xD

warm vale
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lol ๐Ÿ˜„

proven marlin
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nice setup for sure

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I'm holding out to update when Ampere drops

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still sitting on an old 1080Ti

fierce steppe
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Once you complete 10 work units the QRB will kick in and you'll start getting a bonus for completing work units quickly... Should 10x the points you earn

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Same, still rocking 1080Ti

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though the 2060/2070/Super cards are looking mighty tasty

warm vale
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what does QRB stand for?

fierce steppe
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if only they weren't so expensive

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QRB = Quick Return Bonus

warm vale
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i upgraded from a laptop so ๐Ÿ˜„

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oh okay

proven marlin
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yeah....I was going to buy a 2080Ti when Nvidia teased those. Then they showed the price and I was like..........o hell no

fierce steppe
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The Base Credit is what you will get without a QRB. What new people get with less than 10 successful work units.
The Estimated Credit includes the quick return bonus

proven marlin
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At least this 1080Ti is still being a solid card

warm vale
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yeah 2080Ti is soo expensive

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oh damn thats literally 10x the points

fierce steppe
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1080ti performs pretty well on the new Core22 units

proven marlin
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about the only few apps I wish I had more GPU power for is Blender and Monster Hunter World

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yeah, I remember testing a few of the core 22s on mine

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nice bump in point output

fierce steppe
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That 1.4M estimate is with the card power limited to 70%

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100% goes up to around 1.6M

proven marlin
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plus, it still does great on some BOINC projects too

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nice

fierce steppe
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If you look at the PPD chart estimate thing
Each generation has doubled performance

proven marlin
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yeah, I started back before the GTX580

fierce steppe
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so Ampere(?) could be insane

warm vale
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mine says 1505755 but i dont know what the power limit is set to

proven marlin
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so, I sure remember how newer ones kept jumping in point output

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oh yeah, I hope Ampere is a beast

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:I just my wallet is going to hate me

fierce steppe
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Just hope this virus doesn't cause the price to rise due to production delays and shortages

proven marlin
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that is a concern for sure

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at most, I can see delays occuring

fierce steppe
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Nvidia could always follow what AMD did with the 3990X...
Sell the 3080Ti for $3080 ๐Ÿ˜„

proven marlin
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:I

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I would not touch the GPU if they sell it that high

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darn thing would cost more than my monitor and that is saying something

fierce steppe
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2080Ti is around $2100 AUD in Australia

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and I paid AUD $1100 for my 1080Ti

proven marlin
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ouch

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so, if in AUD, that is still over 1700 bucks in dollars here

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oof

fierce steppe
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Whats that Canadian?

green dove
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one dollar per Ti you get, seems fair.

proven marlin
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us dollars

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darn 2080Tis still go for over a grand here in the States

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seen a few 2nd hand ones go for around 800-900 bucks

fierce steppe
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Still too new
No-one is getting rid of 2080Tis

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Maybe once the next gen card is announced there might be a few more

proven marlin
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mostly only see used ones be sold on the enthusiast forum boards.

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same place I nabbed my used 1080Ti a few years back

ripe marsh
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I took a gamble on a "refurbished" 2080 Ti on eBay for $965 a few months ago. Was advertised as being factory refurbished by Asus and having a sealed label or whatever on it, but it didn't. Immediately started glitching out when I booted my computer. Got a refund and just went out and bought a 2080 Super instead.

proven marlin
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xD those folks always going through cards to find good ones. So, I just nab up a golden when they sell one off. Reason I kinda miss the old 980Ti Amp I bought off one chap, 1600MHz on air, thing was crazy

fierce steppe
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I wonder if that was one of the early cards with the memory issues

proven marlin
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yeah, early batches had those graphic issues

ripe marsh
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Could be. It was the Asus "Dual" model.

fierce steppe
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Yeah, that's something you're going to need to look out for when buying used.

proven marlin
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yep, reason I stick to sellers that show the part number and model number on the card

fierce steppe
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Especially since most manufacturers won't accept RMA on used items

ripe marsh
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Yep. I knew it was a gamble, and eBay offers good recourse, especially if the seller claims the product fully works and is factory refurbished.

fierce steppe
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Make sure they show GPU-Z cause that will show the memory used

proven marlin
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I had good luck with EVGA on 2nd hand cards

fierce steppe
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EVGA allows it I believe, but they're one of the few

proven marlin
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though, that was back on an OG Titan

ripe marsh
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So it was a simple matter of returning it to the seller and getting a refund.

fierce steppe
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EVGA allows 2nd hand warranty on PSUs, but with limitations

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It's good that you were able to get a refund though Naaaz

proven marlin
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oh, was not aware they had warranty on 2nd hand PSUs.

ripe marsh
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I'm more than happy with my 2080 Super though.

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I'll probably just get the 3080 Ti when it comes out anyway. ๐Ÿ˜„

proven marlin
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xD as I got a 2nd hand EVGA PSU

ripe marsh
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Anyone else having problems sending work units?

proven marlin
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overkill, but heck, good price

ripe marsh
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Mine starts, uploads about 15% and fails.

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Over and over

snow fractal
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what server are you attempting too upload ro

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to

warm vale
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i had that issue when uploading to 128.252.203.2 but after a few tries it succeeded

ripe marsh
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128.252.203.2:8080

fierce steppe
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128.252.203.2 is currently down and not collecting work units

ripe marsh
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Gotcha.

fierce steppe
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and when it is up it hasn't been crediting them >.>

ripe marsh
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Hmm

fierce steppe
ripe marsh
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Wonder if that's why I don't seem to be getting as many points as I should

fierce steppe
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its uptime is listed as "a few seconds" but it is periodically going down

ripe marsh
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Had a good 10-hour foldathon last night on three separate computers and only got maybe 200K

proven marlin
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the servers are definitely getting hammer this month.

fierce steppe
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What project/WU are you trying to upload Naaz?

ripe marsh
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14533

fierce steppe
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That's the same one myself and Eagle have had issues with

ripe marsh
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Hmm.

fierce steppe
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I might need to add it to the list of known issues on the forum

ripe marsh
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Oh well!

rich depot
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Completely unrelated but what the hell are girl scout cookies? Plus we have just passed 10k active folders

snow fractal
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woooo

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uh interesting cookies

fierce steppe
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They're cookies with little chunks of girl scouts in them

snow fractal
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lmao

rich depot
#

Sounds... tasty

ripe marsh
#

Girl scout cookies are delicious. Too bad you probably won't be able to find them for a while.

fierce steppe
#

Made by Soylent

ripe marsh
#

Oh damn it got to 75% and failed this time.

rich depot
#

I'm in britland, won't ever find them here

fierce steppe
#

Does Britian have Girl Guides or Brownies or something?

snow fractal
#

i was a girl scout at one point, bleh

rich depot
#

We do, but no biscuits from them

ripe marsh
#

@snow fractal Luckily you escaped before they made you into a cookie.

fierce steppe
#

No biscuits? lazy little shits tell them to get baking /s

rich depot
#

Gegger you're a girl? shock

snow fractal
#

ahahaha

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yes i am

fierce steppe
#

But yeah I think the biscuits are just how they fund their activities and stuff

rich depot
#

And to think I've been picturing you as a 40 year old texan man...

fierce steppe
#

You're welcome to picture me as a 40 year old Texan

warm vale
#

how come CPU WUs are in high demand when GPUs are better at folding?

fierce steppe
#

Might be less CPU WUs to go around

rich depot
#

Not high in demand, just less supply

warm vale
#

ohh okay

#

yeah that makes more sense

fierce steppe
#

Plus every computer has a CPU but not every computer has a dedicated graphics card

snow fractal
#

ya, I've been waiting for 16hrs for a cpu wu

rich depot
#

Oh can I now spotty ๐Ÿ˜‰

#

I love how gegger has just glossed over it like I never said a think

fierce steppe
#

Probably doesn't help that there's rumours going around saying that CPUs give more points if you limit them to 4 cores and have multiple slots...

snow fractal
#

perhaps

proven marlin
#

oh, this is nice. KitBash3D is giving a kit away for free so folks can make art during this whole virus deal

snow fractal
#

I'm used to bring called a guy

rich depot
#

Well I'm sure you're very pretty

snow fractal
#

uh how do i respond to that

proven marlin
#

xD

rich depot
#

IDEK

#

Us brits either say sorry or something super awkward. It's just coded into us. Like the canadians

#

@proven marlin Save me!

fierce steppe
#

Well this is an awkward silence

proven marlin
#

xD

snow fractal
#

yes

proven marlin
#

though, I wonder if ya think I'm a guy or a gal. @rich depot xD

rich depot
#

Your a girl

timber grove
proven marlin
#

think most folks forget

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lol

rich depot
#

I don't

fierce steppe
#

There are no girls on the internet

rich depot
#

Everyone knows that geez

proven marlin
#

yep, mythical unicorns

#

I just find it funny. Even back playing PSO on Dreamcast and Gamecube, folks be like, wait, wut, ya a gal

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especially when I played Doom 3 and Quake

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xD

rich depot
#

I only remember that because we once had a conversation and women in the military tbf

proven marlin
#

ah yeah

#

outside of med field, gals are not common, especially in the mech shops

fierce steppe
#

Ohh, I should hit 150M points soon

snow fractal
#

I'm looking out the window and i see people having a party but staying 1m apart

proven marlin
#

interesting

rich depot
#

1m.....

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Thats like half if what is required

snow fractal
#

exactly

warm vale
#

meanwhile im at 3500 points :D

timber grove
#

time to shut them down

rich depot
#

I was gonna say I would be hitting 1.5B soon but apparently I already did that...

proven marlin
#

where I work, the classes have try sticking to the 2m/6 foot rule, xD

rich depot
#

TBH I just don't like people anyway

fierce steppe
#

^^

timber grove
#

2m does not equal 6 feet

snow fractal
#

been folding since October but haven't hit 75k points yet lol

fierce steppe
#

2m = 6.5 ft

rich depot
#

^

fierce steppe
#

or 6'6"

snow fractal
#

yes i don't like being with people irl

proven marlin
#

shrug, they been doing 6 feet

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or trying to

rich depot
#

My awkward britishness shows too much when I'm around people

timber grove
#

sounds like fun

rich depot
#

Heh not for me

snow fractal
#

people keep think im canadian for some reason

rich depot
#

As gegger just bare witness too... It never ends well

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@timber grove why does it sound like fun?

proven marlin
#

I use to not like being around people, now, meh, I got to deal with the buggers anyway. May as well have fun depending how the person I'm dealing with is

timber grove
#

I like to sometimes be around people with different personalities

proven marlin
#

except being tabletop games and board games, I love playing those with other folks

rich depot
#

Fair enough! I'm always up for a chat

#

I miss the giant VCs we used to have on here ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

proven marlin
#

xD especially if I got some rum and coke on hand

rich depot
#

I'm more a whisky kinda person

proven marlin
#

me after getting rum and coke, I gett super chatty

#

oh, I will drink some whisky on occasions

#

about the only drink I'm not fond of is beer

rich depot
#

I come from scot/irish heritage so it only seems right

#

I'm not a big beer person either

proven marlin
#

sounds correct

rich depot
#

How you guys coping with eth human malware?

snow fractal
#

i tried beer in China, yuck

#

sitting at home being my antisocial self as usual

proven marlin
#

mostly staying home and playing games or doing projects. My job is consider mission critical, so I have to go to work even if Florida decides to go lock down later on

rich depot
#

I can't tell if I'm one of the youngest here, or if I'm just boring...

fierce steppe
#

why not both?

#

I'm kidding :p

rich depot
#

Mind you I'm a brit so probably the boring one

proven marlin
#

hence, it been interesting see where I work try to minimize large groups and disinfect everything

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xD

warm vale
#

been working from home for 1 week so far

#

its been nice but im so unproductive when working from home ๐Ÿ˜„

rich depot
#

Well ik the general LTT viewers are quite young which makes me think I'm usually not young. But folders seem more.... mature

proven marlin
#

I don't really watch LTT. xD mostly came to the forum because OCN went so dead

rich depot
#

TBF same...

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More of a GN person myself

snow fractal
#

eh i watch csf and ltt when i see something interesting

proven marlin
#

though, I do watch some youtube channels, but those tend to be either like, practical engineering, history, or the occasional cat vids.

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oh, or the silly 40K parody vids

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xD

rich depot
#

I do like my WWII vids

snow fractal
#

mhm twosetviolin is interesting

rich depot
#

Also like the real engineering channel

timber grove
#

its a good channel

proven marlin
#

is that the name of the channel?

#

I may go check that out

rich depot
#

yeah

snow fractal
#

silence

rich depot
#

Irsh guy, top notch... wait was you asking me or fritz

proven marlin
#

oh nice, the vids definitely look interesting.

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though, if you want something to laugh your butt off to: 40K parody stuff, look up If the Emperor had a Text to Speech Device

snow fractal
#

i watch rclifeon for when i need my 3d printing thirst quenched

rich depot
#

Let me know how you fine it Ithanul

snow fractal
#

translation fails be like

#

silence

proven marlin
#

oh, another peep that is into 3d printing?

snow fractal
#

yees

rich depot
#

Makers muse if an ok 3D printing channel

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is an*

snow fractal
#

yea i like them too

proven marlin
#

I watch a bit of Makers Muse

#

along with CNC Kitchen

snow fractal
#

yay finally a cpu wu

proven marlin
#

nice

fierce steppe
#

Theres a 3D printing channel on floatplane I think, cant remember the name of it

#

3D printing nerd

rich depot
#

Any ideas? 01:00:46:WU07:FS04:0x22:WARNING:Console control signal 1 on PID 4088

fierce steppe
#

if you open up task manager and go to the details tab, sort by PID. What is 4088?

rich depot
#

Dont have access to that machine right now

fierce steppe
#

I got no idea ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

proven marlin
#

best guess I can give, some process interrupted the core process.

silver wing
#

@snow fractal No, my WU, give it back!

rich depot
#

thanks guys

snow fractal
#

no u lead

warm vale
fierce steppe
#

Yes

#

You need at least one free per GPU slot, and helps having another one free for general PC use...

warm vale
#

ah okay

rich depot
#

1 per GPU = 1 for OS

warm vale
#

well i have power use set to medium right now but its not like i have a CPU WU anyways ๐Ÿ˜„

rich depot
#

So if you have 2 GPUs, three thread free

fierce steppe
warm vale
#

will it ever use all 16 threads by itself? or does F@H already know to leave 1 for system

fierce steppe
#

The default setting is to leave it free
You can edit the slot and change how much it uses

#

but if you set it to all 16 it won't be able to feed the GPU and the GPU performance will drop significantly

warm vale
#

hmm okay well ill just leave it as -1 for now and change it later if i need to

#

woo got a CPU WU :D

snow fractal
#

nice

fierce steppe
#

Is anyone still having issues uploading 11753 and 11758?

marble quest
#

I am not around for too long, just dl folding think I have set it up right is anyone around to help check ? I want to leave my pc on

fierce steppe
#

That looks right.
Did you get a passkey and put that in as well with your username and team info?

warm vale
#

i didnt have either of those WU

#

my last few WUs were uploaded to different servers and they worked fine

marble quest
#

Points earned
0(See stats)

#

only earn points when it goes to 100% ?

warm vale
#

yep

marble quest
#

if I end it early it doesnt help the project at all?

warm vale
#

itll pause, and then you can continue later

limpid pilot
#

My 11758 unit has been stuck sending for what feels like the past week

fierce steppe
#

Nope. It's all processed locally on your machine so you only get credit for it after you finish and it uploads the results back to their servers

#

Okay thanks @limpid pilot I wasn't sure if people were still having problems with it or not.

marble quest
#

if i overheat and crash I can just come back to it? I should be fine just asking

warm vale
#

yeah it saves every 15 min(default setting)

limpid pilot
#

I may just be going crazy but I've had a unit being stuck sending for a while now. Could be different ones every time but I feel like it'd only be the one

fierce steppe
#

If you overheat and crash it will most likely cause the work unit to fail.

You can pause and come back to it.

limpid pilot
#

^

fierce steppe
#

Nah, you're probably not going crazy.
Lots of people have been reporting issues with 11758 being stuck sending.
I just wasn't sure if it had been fixed yet or not

marble quest
fierce steppe
#

To check GPU usage, click on the GPU tab then change one of the graphs to Cuda

marble quest
#

gpu is going x3 speed of the cpu

fierce steppe
#

task manager doesn't show CUDA/Compute usage properly

#

128.252.203.2 work server is definitely down and there are multiple people reporting issues with it failing to upload WU 14533.

I've included it in the known issues notice in the folding event thread.
Thankfully 14533 is the only work unit from that server so it won't be affecting any other work units

warm vale
#

ohh i see, was wondering why my gpu usage was at around 50%

fierce steppe
#

We just beat PCMR again at the latest update! ๐Ÿฅณ
Only 9M points behind them for the day

warm vale
#

nice :D

marble quest
#

well thanks for your help guys

fierce steppe
#

Thanks for folding linusPerfect

marble quest
#

im gonna leave my pc on while im not using it

#

every little helps

timber grove
#

has folding@home said anything about WU 11757 and 11756. because i haven't been able to send them sence the 16th

marble quest
#

got a pretty old i7

#

3930k

fierce steppe
#

I haven't heard of any issues with 11757 & 11756
If you check the logs does it say what server they're trying to connect to?
Any error messages when they fail to upload?

timber grove
#

155.247.164.214 is the server for both of them

fierce steppe
#

The servers online and not reporting any issues

#

Have you restarted your PC at all in the last few days?

timber grove
#

yup

fierce steppe
#

Hmm, I'm not sure then

timber grove
#

a few times

fierce steppe
#

Whats the error message show in the logs when it fails to upload?

timber grove
#

Failed to send results to work server: Transfer failed

hazy flax
#

I've been trying to get fahclient to work for about 5 hours now. I guess i'm going to work on it some more tomorrow. lol

fierce steppe
#

155.247.164.213 and .214 were the servers that were having issues with 11758 being stuck trying to upload
It's possible it was the same issue with those work units

#

If the work units have been trying to upload for a week then they will have expired.
You'll just need to dump them unfortunately. Set the GPU slot to finish and when its finished its current work unit and uploads it you can delete the GPU slot and it will dump those work old units that won't send

timber grove
#

ok

fierce steppe
#

It's possible that they just sent out more 11758 work units and less of the 11756/11757 work units which is why there aren't as many people reporting issues with those ones

timber grove
#

true

fierce steppe
#

It's possible that the same issue may be affecting work units
11753 - 11758

wanton bloom
#

Are the WU servers still having issues?

#

My GPU hasn't been able to get a WU for the past 24hours

#

I tried pausing and restarting etc

warm vale
#

ive been getting GPU WUs pretty regularly

stark bough
#

Check the logs tab

#

Same, my ppd skyrocketed

wanton bloom
#

Hmm, seems that it's a local issue?

warm vale
#

i did only start folding today though so i have no idea :D

stark bough
#

Oh its running now

wanton bloom
fierce steppe
#

You're using MacOS?

#

MacOS doesn't support GPU folding

wanton bloom
#

Oooh

stark bough
#

Yeah i noticed that.

fierce steppe
#

Can only CPU fold with a mac ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

wanton bloom
#

Well, rip that 500k score then

fierce steppe
#

If it makes you feel any better a desktop GTX 750 Ti gets around 75k PPD

#

so a GT 750 mobile gpu would be a lot less

wanton bloom
#

still better than 20k on cpu.

fierce steppe
#

๐Ÿ˜„

wanton bloom
#

I wonder, if I run F@H in VMware on Mac, will it then be able to use the GPU?

#

Though I suppose the CPU hit will make it not worth it

fierce steppe
#

I don't think so
You could always give it a try

wanton bloom
#

eh too much effort, for what is really not even a drop in a bucket when you compare it to even moderately modern cards. I'll just keep the cpu on "wait for idle" and get some work in

fierce steppe
silver wing
#

When UFD Tech does a far better shout out than LMG does.... ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

snow fractal
#

ikr

#

what a derp earlier

undone dust
#

Also I require additional cooling

snow fractal
#

:o

rich depot
#

@silver wing Agreed

snow fractal
#

is den-fi not here?

snow fractal
#

ahahaahha

rich depot
snow fractal
#

oh wait denfi is in this server

stark bough
#

@undone dust We require additional heating. Send some that heat over IP my way

undone dust
#

Heatpipes away!

#

Thermal transfer over fabric

#

๐Ÿคฃ

stark bough
#

200 km heatpipe linusCreep

timber grove
#

fiber

undone dust
#

We can only send over copper, the fabric requires an active link

snow fractal
#

god how many accounts does den have

fierce steppe
snow fractal
#

ohh wow

rich depot
#

at the height of folding month we were getting 3.5b PPD

fringe sequoia
#

F's in the chat pls boys

#

GTX660 just blew up

hazy flax
#

Ouch

#

I got my fold rig running, and the cpu is running above max temp for some reason lmao

#

Not really sure why..

fringe sequoia
#

That gpu mined LTC, dogecoin and a bunch of stuff

#

bought me my 1070

#

Poor thing

rich depot
#

Thats like getting your current employees to train their replacements

fringe sequoia
#

I would be ok with that

silver wing
#

still not getting WUs, so frustrating

supple laurel
#

@fringe sequoia send it louis rossman!

fringe sequoia
#

The part that died wouldn't be hard to fix

#

but since it legit sparked, it's untelling what else exploded

hazy flax
#

Anyone know how to get the cpu to download ws assignment

fierce steppe
#

Just wait for it to find a new work unit...
If it hasn't found one in a while try pausing the client and resuming folding again and it will force it to check for a new work unit

silver wing
#

so I wasn't getting WUs cos FAH didn't like the % ram in use on my servers....

fierce steppe
#

A lot of people folding at the moment, they're struggling to get enough CPU work units out to everyone

silver wing
#

even though there was 5GB left

#

.<

fierce steppe
#

Time to kick those other users off the server then

silver wing
#

they are mine, just have to stop the shit using the ram lol

supple laurel
#

close your one chrome tab and use the advanced control....

silver wing
#

omfg yea, 100% hit rate on getting WUs

#

was the ram

hazy flax
#

I got a ws assignment

fierce steppe
#

LTT team just beat PCMR for the day

#

LTT: 1,194,569,499
PCMR: 1,176,747,396

fringe sequoia
#

Someone tell me why I shouldn't buy a 2080super

supple laurel
#

get a 2080ti?

silver wing
#

because you should buy me a 2080s

fringe sequoia
#

Someone tell me why I should buy a 2080ti

#

Someone tell me why leadeater hasn't mourned my 660

rich depot
#

Because the 1080ti has the highest PPD of anything that isnt too stupid price

fringe sequoia
#

I'm looking for gaming more than PPD

supple laurel
#

do you play in 4k?

rich depot
#

^^

fringe sequoia
#

Not really, VR tho

rich depot
#

You are asking in the Folding section though so yknow

fringe sequoia
#

Yes

supple laurel
#

did you lose income due to covid?

fringe sequoia
#

Lolno, my work wouldn't close unless the gov was going to cut them a check. I have leave too if I get sick.

#

Does someone have a link to the PPD gpu spreadsheets

supple laurel
#

i mean i say go for it then. but do know that MAYBE 30xx might be coming out in 3-6ish months

fringe sequoia
#

found it

fierce steppe
#

GTX1080Ti is still a really good gaming GPU... If you can find a cheap 2nd hand one it still isn't a bad idea

hazy flax
#

So I don't think there's any point in running my computer that I had dedicated to running the FAH program.. The estimated ppd on it is about 15,500. When I run it on my main computer the PPD is 1,115,891 lol

fierce steppe
#

Yeah... Maybe not ๐Ÿ˜„

hazy flax
#

Seems so insignificant

#

lmao

fierce steppe
#

There can be a huge gap in points depending on hardware

fringe sequoia
#

The 660 was only getting 60k lol

hazy flax
#

I have another gpu I could put in there but I mean..it's not much of a bump up either lol

#

It would probably get me to somewhere around 60k

#

I could always get the 2070s a friend.. that would help right? xD

#

SLI would be awesome if it didn't have to be supported by the game

supple laurel
#

i mean unless your running sli 2080ti's just save the money and buy 1 nicer card

fierce steppe
silver wing
#

yea...

#

I stopped trying

hazy flax
#

See, two 2070s running in sli will easily outperform a 2080ti and cost less so.. that's why it would be nice

#

Just not nice for Nvidia

silver wing
#

or game support

fringe sequoia
#

I know this is random for folding chat, but i wanna give it back to yall if I can. Anyone got an EVGA affiliate code?

fierce steppe
#

plus SLI kinda sucks with micro stuttering

silver wing
#

personally never had a problem with that but crossfire so ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

fierce steppe
#

Neither have I but I've always been in the "I'll buy a big power supply and SLI/crossfire capable motherboard and later I'll add a 2nd graphics card to make my system even fasterer!" but never actually did it camp

supple laurel
#

i don't know if sli 70s would top a 2080ti. maybe in 1440. but no way in 4k

fierce steppe
#

Just going by issues I've heard from other people

silver wing
#

just a bad idea today

#

support for both has gotten worse

hazy flax
#

I only have the motherboard that'll support sli because x570 -_-

silver wing
#

seems like every new game the comes out has no crossfire support and forcing it on does nothing

supple laurel
#

o that temping..... newegg has a refurbished gigabyte 2080ti for 900...........

hazy flax
#

We might want to go to another channel with this.. not sure how strict they are on being off-topic but I don't think we're talking about folding anymore lol

supple laurel
#

it's the hardware used for folding?

#

and we have a mod in here talking with us?

silver wing
#

hdd just failed in server, alarm so annoying

fierce steppe
#

4,645,072,843 points from 185,711 work units

toxic apex
#

gpu is in full bore mode with this WU

#

last WU was only drawing like half TDP and only clocked to 1500 MHz ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

#

Anyone else notice this behavior?

fringe sequoia
#

Core 21 vs Core 22?

#

Core 21 was weird to me earlier

toxic apex
#

Sitting on FahCore_22

supple laurel
#

it depends on what program your using to report. i'm not sure on GPUZ but most WU only use the cuda/opencl? cores so some programs only the gpu using part of it as the video encode/decode sit idle but those cores will be at 100%

toxic apex
#

I see what you're saying

fierce steppe
#

GTX 1080 Ti is 3 years old. Anyone else feel old?

timber grove
#

yes

#

and im not even able to drink yet

toxic apex
#

my i7-2700k is from 2011, def feel old. I don't even fold on it because performance isn't the best. Spectre and Meltdown hit it hard

supple laurel
#

lol i still have my 2500k system from 2011 sitting in the corner of my room

silver wing
#

when you find 4x E5-2640 in your cupboard but are disappointed because you're sure you had some E5-2670's

fierce steppe
#

Hey Leadeater, if F@H is producing 470TFLOPs
and LTT is producing 10% of the total points
Does that mean the LTT team is producing ~45TFLOPs of processing power?

#

or does it not work that way? ๐Ÿค”

snow fractal
#

mgfhfggfgm i forgot i had notifs on for this chan

fierce steppe
#

I guess with QRB and stuff points does not equal processing power

silver wing
#

ohhh found it

snow fractal
#

you have a cpu cupboard?!?!

silver wing
#

yes that what it should mean

supple laurel
#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ my starting overnight job is only 50mins

silver wing
#

kind of....

supple laurel
#

for CPU but my GPU is 4 hours

silver wing
#

if you count 10x L5630 6x X5650, 4x E5-2640, 2x E5-2630 as a cupboard of cpus

snow fractal
#

slowly backs away

silver wing
#

I know I left some out lol

fierce steppe
#

A CPU WU that only takes 50 minutes to complete? How many points is that worth, 42?

supple laurel
#

3k

silver wing
#

2x E5-2648L

#

2x E5520

snow fractal
#

I'm pretty sure my avg wu time is like 6 days

supple laurel
#

overclocked 2700x to 4.2 and let it just eat WU's

silver wing
#

so should I upgrade me server from 1x E5-2620 to 2x E-2648L or 2x E5-2640 or 1x E5-2670?

timber grove
#

what votage are you running on that cpu

supple laurel
#

1.4

fierce steppe
#

If LTT keeps going at current rate we can take 4th spot in 2 weeks

snow fractal
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i can't read that breadeater lol

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whoops autocorrect

silver wing
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or 2x E5-2630v2

fierce steppe
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4th place, Hardware.no is 13Billion points ahead of us.
We're gaining at a rate of 1 billion points per day

timber grove
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wow

supple laurel
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and the folding event starts next weekend i bet our numbers go up

fierce steppe
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Hopefully LTTs folding video comes out prior to the event starting

supple laurel
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i don't know if they will floatplane it for a week. but they finished shooting it on friday, he talked about during the wan show

fierce steppe
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I can just imagine @rich depot dealing with a few thousand sign ups the day before the event starts

snow fractal
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moar powar

supple laurel
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well off to bed

silver wing
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ahhh damn it

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so I just realized when I ordered the 2nd CPU board for my server I didn't get a heatsink

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just....

snow fractal
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oof

silver wing
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damn it!

timber grove
snow fractal
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you can be an Alex and make a janky ass heatsink

silver wing
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such an IBM thing to do

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sell you the part that allows you to put the CPU in

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doesn't come with heatink

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whyyyyyy

timber grove
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ebay time

hazy flax
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O I didn't realize lead was a mod. I didn't mean to offend you, I just steered things off topic and didn't want to get anyone in trouble. lol.

silver wing
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offend me where? kinda in the middle of upgrading server so eh not reading much lol

hazy flax
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No Spotty lol

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Sorry I was a little late to respond

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I meant caatra, wrong name I looked at

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I can't multitask

silver wing
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I'm lost... moving on lol

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rtfm strikes again

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got part left over.... it's the first part you're supposed to put in before the CPU board

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fail

rich depot
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๐Ÿ˜‚

toxic apex
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Even on the same core FahCore_22 I restarted my WU and GPU clock is back to 1500 MHz with around 50% TDP. Odd

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points per day drops about 200k whenever it does this. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

fierce steppe
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Which core22 WU is it? Only ones I've seen going around lately are the 14310's and they're an absolute bastard

toxic apex
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11776

fierce steppe
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ohh wait I'm stupid

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I was thinking Core21

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There is a bit of variance between different work units

toxic apex
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yee this is the exact same WU. gpu was running full bore before I restarted, fire it back up same WU and now its clocked down

silver wing
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290X 14310 PPD: 250k

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290X 11750 PPD: 470k

toxic apex
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believe it showed 780kish before restart, now at 580kish after restarts.
Same WU 11776, was the exact same, just had to reboot before finishing it.
1660 Ti

fierce steppe
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14310 is one of the old Core21 WUs, they suck ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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Takes my 1080ti over 4 hours to complete

silver wing
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4 hours lol

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ETA 9 hours 21 mins

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nice CPU upgrade worked

fierce steppe
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Latest update...
LTT: 181M
PCMR: 149M

Smashing them

rich depot
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will running my laptop full tilt degrade battery life?
it gets to around 70 for CPU and GPU, 60 for PCH and 45 for SSD

silver wing
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seems they are running low on CPU and GPU WUs now

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mostly it's power on hours that matters

rich depot
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well 24/7, I plugged it into the wall, so it shouldn't be using alot of battery

silver wing
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heat does but only if it's quite above normal, for a laptop the battery and motherboard fail first

rich depot
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well are the temps I mentioned above normal?

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or acceptable?

silver wing
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and it's not PCH temp that does it it's internal temps around power delivery

rich depot
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where do I see that?

silver wing
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sadly can't, best is surface temp using touch

rich depot
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around the battery area, it's pretty cold to the touch

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the exhaust section of the laptop burns

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the battery discharges at abound 0.7w

silver wing
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that's pretty normal at those temps you're at currently

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70C feels rather hot

rich depot
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so should I worry about my laptop abttery?

silver wing
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I wouldn't but a nice bit a airflow over the laptop itself wouldn't hurt

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like a desk fan etc

last imp
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I had my laptop at an open window all day yesterday and got my temps down to about 50-60C with my fans whining.

magic bolt
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Impressive

last imp
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Cool

rich depot
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why are all the cpu tasks so small?

silver wing
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they can be done quickly

rich depot
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yeah but I'd rather have a big boy cpu task and not care for a couple hours

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like the estimated credit is 2k and I have a 9900k

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it takes half an hour

silver wing
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after a month we might be 4th

rich depot
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are there awards for getting a bunch of pts?

silver wing
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Self Inflating Egos ๐Ÿ™‚

rich depot
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i see

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I wonder how long it would take, at the rate it is going, for F@H to be at a point of diminishing returns

silver wing
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Basically already is, hard to know. We can only process WUs if they exist and there are two critical points there, servers can generate WUs fast enough and more importantly scientist submitting enough work

rich depot
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I mean when it is at that point, wouldn't it be the best interest for the scientists to actually sit down and analyze instead of pumping out a bunch of wu that may or may not come in handy?

silver wing
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FAH does both those tasks

mystic hollow
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@rich depot they actually do that, that is the whole point

rich depot
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?

silver wing
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A lot of the CPU tasks analyze the more abstract GPU tasks as well as other stuff

rich depot
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hm

mystic hollow
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@rich depot and only the "correct" results are returned to the scientist, which then analyses them further

rich depot
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what renders a result correct or incorrect?

silver wing
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magic

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lol

mystic hollow
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so while there is millions of work units for any given project, only few thousand will match the required results, which then gets analysed further by the scientist and probably given another iteration via f@h

silver wing
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it's not a lot different to math and a mathematical theory and then having to prove the theory

rich depot
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ohh

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now I understand yh

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interesting. what does boinc do?

fierce steppe
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All I know is work unit comes in, bake at 65ยฐC for 2 hours and work unit goes out

rich depot
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do boinc also taxe on the GPU and CPU as hard as F@H?

silver wing
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yes

fierce steppe
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BOINC does pretty much the same thing, but for different projects. Some health stuff, some maths stuff, analysing radio signals from space, etc

rich depot
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are there alot of boinc Wus?

silver wing
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more than you could dream of

rich depot
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I might just do boinc then when F@H runs out of WU

toxic apex
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there is a command you get tell your client to get bigger tasks, I thought? @rich depot

fierce steppe
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-bigadv I think

rich depot
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what command?

silver wing
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FAH is BOINC btw, basically. They are essentially the same thing and FAH would be a project within BOINC, if it were part of BOINC

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So you don't really do BOINC, you do a BOINC project like World Community Grid

rich depot
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yh I kinda noticed that

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so on boinc mobile

rich depot
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does it actually do stuff? cause it's super slow

fierce steppe
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That has a list of flags

silver wing
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any mobile device is going to suck

rich depot
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how can I add a command in F@H?

silver wing
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but if you can get a billion doing it then it's a lot of compute power

fierce steppe
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Configre > Expert

rich depot
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extra client opt?

fierce steppe
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depending on the flag, yes

rich depot
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-bigadv

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that?

fierce steppe
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nah that's the old command

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I think bigadv have been discontinued now anyway

silver wing
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I though the big task switch was depreciated and no longer neccessary?

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jinx again

fierce steppe
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^^^
Plus with the priority on generating Covid-19 units they wouldn't have any anyway

rich depot
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oh

fierce steppe
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You can still set the client in to Beta mode to get beta work units, but they are unstable and likely to crash

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Honestly the best thing to do is just leave it alone

rich depot
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my CPU isn't getting any tasks

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and when it gets tasks, it get insignificant tasks that takes 30 min to complete

fierce steppe
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#helpmyCPUistoopowerful

rich depot
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I just want a 10 hour CPU task where I can just not care

toxic apex
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just keep F@H up and you shouldn't have to care

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it will come as it is available, right?

rich depot
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well no

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after 5 searches, the search intervals is like half an hour

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then one hour

toxic apex
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oh, anyways to set interval lower?

silver wing
rich depot
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I was wondering the same

silver wing
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you could just set FAH to use 1 thread, that'll make it take 10 hours

rich depot
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yh but then there would be too many cores

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and I need to find a task for every core

fierce steppe
#

And you'll lose the quick return bonus

last imp
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Big boi problems

rich depot
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no more cpu tasks for today lol

warm vale
mystic hollow
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i am failing to upload WU result, rip

fierce steppe
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Nice eagle!

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What WU is it, paranoid?

mystic hollow
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what do you mean. GPU WU

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project 11760

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servers are probably failing, getting Transfer failed

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uploaded on 4th try

fierce steppe
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Didn't get credited for a WU in the latest update. WU 11776
Checking logs it doesn't show the QRB on it either.

08:49:19:WU00:FS00:Final credit estimate, 15396.00 points

warped flower
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Hi, are people finding WU at the moment?

fierce steppe
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It can take a few attempts, but I've been getting a few today

warped flower
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I'm on attempt 7

fierce steppe
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How long does it say for the Next Attempt:?

warped flower
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it's about 2 minutes inbetweena attempts

toxic apex
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My final credit is always what the value it will say on the project page. I never get any extra credit, like what my estimated credit says I should be getting.

fierce steppe
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2 minutes in between attempts is fine, just let it run and search for available WUs
If it ends up like 30 min+ between attempts pause the client and resume and it'll reset the timer

warped flower
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ok thanks @fierce steppe

fierce steppe
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@toxic apex if your F@H username is "Chromos" then it looks like its only counted 9 successful work units from you so far.
You need a passkey + 10 WUs before you get the bonus points

toxic apex
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oh ok, ya it is. I got my passkey setup. guess I need to break 10+

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my 11th is folding right now

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Thanks @fierce steppe

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Well 1 WU in default, 4 in Barnacules and 5 in PCMR.

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So yeah this will be my 11th

rich depot
rich depot
stuck bramble
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LOL

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And they have like more then double the people

rich depot
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IKR!

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PCMR... more like PCM-NOT

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@stuck bramble Are you signed up?

stuck bramble
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Yes i am

rich depot
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NICE!

limber onyx
#

have they introduced an option to fold only for coronavirus yet?

pseudo abyss
#

Now my GPU have gotten WUs fine but my CPU havent

spark salmon
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@limber onyx As long as you have "Any Disease" selected you will always fold for Covid19 as long as there is something available for you to fold. In the interim while those work units are being sorted out on the researches side you may be given non-Covid19 tasks, but it's not from lack of trying on their part

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As long as you keep the application running, you will definitely be getting Covid19 work units a few times a day or more

rich depot
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^^

spark salmon
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GG PCMR GG

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GG

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@rich depot I'm so glad I was actually a not-completely-insignificant part of our new point lead, I cleared 750,000 points this morning and I don't think the totals are even fully updated yet.

rich depot
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Nice, thanks for getting involved!

spark salmon
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Yeee boi. Gotta hit that MIL

pseudo abyss
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My GPU is doing 11746 (Coronavirus) and my CPU is doing nothing

spark salmon
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@pseudo abyss That's par for the course recently, they just can't produce as many CPU Work Units to meet the Volunteer response, they're barley putting out more than a few GPU Work units per volunteer per day. Right now the volunteer networks processing power is more powerful than the top 7 individual Supercomputers around the world combined.

rich depot
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They are just concentrating on generating GPU WUs as it isn't much more intensive for them to generate GPU WUs vs CPU WUs but they get much more scientific data from GPU WUs

spark salmon
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I had only heard they were producing WU's as fast as they could, I didn't know that GPU data was more useful

rich depot
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It's not that it is more useful persay, it's just that GPUs can do much more work in the same amount of time. Thats why you get more points on a GPU. The point count is very roughly related to the amount of work done

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would be nice if ltt can get their receiving server and stuff setup fast. Cause I get that gpu's are more effective, but it's also kinda a waste of all the cpu's that are now on idle, wanting to help

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For all we know it is already set up... they aren't magic. When you go from 35K people to close to 500K the while backend infrastructure just isnt designed to handle it. And there is more to it than simply getting another server or two up. Trust me this, I spent 6 years studying it

rigid mulch
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Hello

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I'm a total newb to the folding@home scene - I've set up three boxes to join the LTT campaign, but they're all stuck at "downloading" (all other config seems to be correct, and I've read all the FAQs I can find)

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Just wondering if there are bottlenecks on the F@H side, or whether there's something obvious I'm missing

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Any tips welcome

proven marlin
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@rich depot , yeah, as someone that does servers setup and admin duty in the Guard. :I It sure ain't simple. Especially if you need IP ranges for a new setup. The old stack we had would take three days to setup on a good day with folks that knew the process. Have yet to do such on the new stack, but I had to get a stack up down range once. Took over a bloody week because everything had to match up and be done right. (plus, only two of us had experience with the specific stack)

rich depot
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Exactly! And then when you add load balancing and the fact that it needs to be stored in a some form of repository, validity of the results checked, distributing the WUs to the work servers and making sure all of them are synced up for stats. It must be a nightmare for a team that has never really dealt with more than 40-50K users

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@rigid mulch It's just the F@H servers

proven marlin
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oh god.........load balancers

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:I

rigid mulch
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I imagined as such

proven marlin
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think there only a few of us in the unit that touch those. if you ever touch one, check, the bloody clock time

rigid mulch
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If I had bandwidth I could contribute on the server side, but best I can do is set up a few clients

proven marlin
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that will royally bite you in the rear end if not set right

rich depot
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Exactly, syncing is the worst issue on large scale set ups like this

proven marlin
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indeed, heck, one of the first steps in a lot of our equipment is checking the clock and setting it right

rich depot
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When it comes to things like YT and netflix syncing isn't so much a problem as they have a network topology designed for them to work as individual nodes that are most just caching. But when you get to something like F@H it has to be synced up pretty much perfectly

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I am glad it's not me, put it that way

proven marlin
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video don't require many handshakes on packets to say, a client requesting data and needing to make sure the data is correct and the client got everything

rich depot
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Exactly

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I'm am slowly getting sick of seeing this spreadsheet now...

proven marlin
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xD

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take a break and relax for a bit

rich depot
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I have 3500 entries to validate by hand on my own.

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I have been doing 12-14 hour days on the forums and this sheet, it needs doing. Now I remember why we have a team usually

pseudo abyss
#

It seems to become longer and longer time between each download attempt every time it fails to do it

rich depot
#

the biggest folding event to date was like 600 people, so I thought I can do that on my own... Little did I know it would slowly break me with 3.5K entries

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@pseudo abyss It does to stop the clients basically DDOSing the server

pseudo abyss
#

pausing and starting to fold again resets it

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I think

rich depot
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Ifd it tried every 10 seconds and all 500K clients were hitting the servers you'd never get them back up

pseudo abyss
#

at least the first attempt

rich depot
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Please don't do that unless it's over 30 min wait time...

pseudo abyss
#

It was 40 min

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๐Ÿ™‚

rich depot
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That's fine then

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Holy shit.....

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I'm folding on all 7 slots...

pseudo abyss
#

๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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๐Ÿ˜„

rich depot
#

Beautiful

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I really wanna grab another 2060 but I'm already pulling over 1.5Kw...

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it's like 30C in this room... 70+% humidity Not fun

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@fierce steppe if you're about can you DM me please

proven marlin
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ouch, 3,5K entries. That is a lot to go through for sure. Just make sure to take care of yourself.

spark salmon
#

Yes! I can't wait for my tax return so I can get a 2060 going myself for secondary currently unused GPU slot. I'm lucky it's still cold here, I'm running my 1080ti at 90%+ capacity non stop and my temp is a stable 64 Degrees

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@rich depot if you DM me your Venmo I'd be happy to buy you a couple RedBulls or whatevers

proven marlin
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tax return.......I still waiting on some papers still. :I why it is always the stock ones that take so long to get

rich depot
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@proven marlin I'm in isolation for the next 12 weeks, gotta keep myself busy

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@spark salmon What is venmo?

proven marlin
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ah, just make sure to take breaks and do something you enjoy

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as someone that dealt being downrange on 12-16 hour shifts and stuck in a tent looking at screens. Ya need breaks at times. Otherwise, you can get mentally worn down

spark salmon
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@Spectrum it's a free secure money transfer app, its like a VPN for your bank account

rich depot
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I will try

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@spark salmon Hmm... I don't why that sounds dodgy to me lol I so distrustful

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Honestly I don't expect anything in return

spark salmon
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No worries, but it is a convenient app, I recommend doing a Google on it when you aren't so busy

proven marlin
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venmo is usually a good one

rich depot
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Maybe! Tbh I just use my streamlabs donation page if I am receiving money as it just goes in my paypal and it's confidential

proven marlin
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our folks that handle the snack bar at the unit has the option to pay with that for snacks

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xD actually, we have to use that or paypal to pay now. No cash with the current requirements

rich depot
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sounds like a good idea tbh anyway