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https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1091921-ltt-official-folding-month-2019/ read the OP here for more info
LTT Folding Month 2019! Starts October, 1st (00:00 BST) Ends November, 4th (23:59 GMT) Folding@home team LTT id#: 223518 (This event is only for folding for team LTT you will not qualify if you are folding independent or for another team, sorry.) This event will be eligible f...
i dont really want to win anything, im just doing my bit to help research
I mean more read the passkey section
But please do sign up, it's important for us to track the event for better sponsors next year
i already set up my personal thing, and generated a passkey
I guess this qrb bonus is a waiting game
im just running it on somewhat old and slow hardware, other than the GPU i got for 20 USD
@neat cloak that it is
Are you assigned one once you get a wu done tho
Cause you say you get qrb if you run it full time or have faster hardware
But you never said when it would give
i only have 1 :/
oh you have to finish 10 work units?
Damn. Time to wait maybe a week
no i lie
only a few days 3 clients pushing at least one wu a day would be a couple days
my CPU is pegged at 100% but my GPU is only registering like 30 ish percent in task manager, is it the same for you guys on full load on the "while im working" option?
how do i do that?
right click
change grapg to multiple engines
then use the drop down arrow and select the Compute_0 engine
You said expect 10 times your normal points once you get qrb?
not alwats 10x
Average?
it depends, GPUs get more of a boost
ah, yeah now both are pegged at 100%
i had the "3D" option showing
and thats at like 30%
and i have 4 cores, 8 threads, and a single GPU. so.. thats good i guess?
I mean, only fold on 6 threads of you have 8 total
okay, i dont really know what that means. but as long as its working hard, right?
both CPU and GPU are at 100% after all
You'll be missing out on PPD from your GPU, even if it shows 100%
what like ill be getting a lower score or something?
well i suppose that doesnt matter much as long as im doing my bit
but arnt there like thousands of other computers (probably way more powerful than mine) doing science too though?
yes
im using a 1st gen xeon chip based on a crappy i7 on a consumer board
But if everyone did 10% more work by setting it up right.... well yknow, lots more science happens
so surely theres more powerful stuff out there
also, i dont really have access to an AMD card at the moment thats from this century.
soooo...
AMD cards are bad at folding
actually wait a second, arnt there like dedicated server video cards?
nvidia makes some yes?
I just meant how you need one free thread per green GPU and one for the OS. AMD cards just need 2 free threads total, no matter the GPU count
yes there are, but they dont have any benefit for folding
if money is no object, best is a 2060
thats pretty firmly out of my price range
but nvidia cards that are maxwell or newer, preferable, pascal or newer is the best bet
so my 1050 is just fine then?
yes
thats good i guess
for the other used card in this system i was considering like a crappy quadro or something, 512mb memory, lousy core clocks, im sure youre familiar
just for a video passthrough
bc my motherboard doesnt have DP or HDMI
ahh
like i said, got my 1050 for 20 USD
dang nice
GT 710 is great for a passthrough GPU
i was looking at GT cards, but then i found out anything other than 900 series is based on fermi or older
and i need this to last for awhile, so longevity of driver support was kinda a factor
i mean i already have the 1050 :/
why a 710 when you can get a 210
What is the second GPU for?
i dont have a second GPU, the 1050 is just working for my HDMI passthrough
and while its doing that its doing science
nop, im fairly happy with this pile of garbage
Wait why do you need another card
i dont
hahaha
You said you were looking at GT cards
i said i was looking at them when i was shopping for video cards to put in my system
ah
I'm currently eating a pot noodle at 2am... so this is my life now I see
seeing as i had a 50$ budget, i didnt exactly have much to work with
and same, you a college student too?
not really
I lost the ability to walk about a year later and havent been able to work in the field I studied
I can now walk with a stick, but can't work more than one day a week. I'm actually a social support worker these days
Was full on at first
Lots of physiotherapy got me here
I used to be a competative cyclist
one day I woke up and couldnt walk, no reason for it
huh, thats... strange.
yeah
never heard of that before
neither have the doctors
I am currently going through a new kinda therapy though, so will see how this goes
and actually the docs are kinda used to it, my partner was the same as me, we have known each other 12 years, happened around the same time
maybe some kind of disease then? this is pure speculation on my part
It was a bad joke
Its a neuro think
thing*
the therapy for my neuro-condition is weird, I have some electrodes implanted under my skin and it excites the nerves to make them work more normal again... it feels... interesting...
just dont pop one off to it lmao
Yeah, they are places next to nerve bundles under my skin, they are used to stop my nerves from misfiring. It has a constant 'Buzz', but measures the misfiring and reacts to them
interesting. so kinda like that electro massage thing in acupuncture but all the time?
kinda
Except this actually measures my nerves and reacts to the bad signals
the biggest thing with my condition is constant pain
Like toothache but worse in every part of my body
sounds... unpleasant
Thats the nerves misfiring, this machine is meant to help that
doesn't help the other symptoms though
anyway, what are you studying?
lol nice Segway. my major is computer hardware engineering. but i also am taking a lot of history classes because that stuff is interesting
networking is always fun, i kinda had to learn it the hard way though setting up home servers in the company that i work for.
on the job experience though
always helps
yeah
I miss it sometimes, but I love the work I do now
I also rum my own charity supporting adults with autism
run*
i have a couple friends who are autistic, and offshoots of it like asburgers (or however i spell it, i can never remember). though still in their teen years on them
i try to be, i was in the special needs classes myself for the first half of my life till i got over whatever it was that was wrong with me through therapy and meds, but my point there is, i know how it is. taking things a little slower, speaking a little more concise than usual
yeah, its good that people understand more now
it is
it was much harder when I was a kid, no noe really knew what it was
teachers used to call it naughty child syndrome
tell me about it, whenever i was in the class, there were always kids peeking through the glass door pointing, laughing, etc. but with time it eased up a bit
is it normal for it to ramp down in performance eventually?
I have autism, ADHD, OCD, generalised anxiety disorder and manic-depressive episodes. Only got diagnosed with dyslexia when I was in uni
I'm just glad chrildren done go through what I went through these days
My dad still thinks mental illness is made up to get disability benefits from the gov
oof
Wow, it's crazy to think how for tech has come in 10 years. According to my stats, I did about 400k the last time I folded. I think that was at least a decade ago using a PS3 and my gaming rig for a couple of weeks. Now, my graphics card alone will blow past that in like a day.
Yep
I remember a story when some guy got 12m PPD, it turns out he was using the french national atomic research super-computer. this was 2009, a freaking super computer man, doing 12m
Now a 2080ti gets 2.5m PPD
he eventually got caught and was sacked
His defence was, well you wernt using it
I mean tru
rip I've stopped fahclient before but this is the first time it's dumped previous progress away
it periodically saves
I restarted fahclient on one of the servers because it was performing worse than initially and it went back to 0%
F@H would rank second fastest computer in the world if it could be measured that way btw
by default its every 15 m
Like FAH as a collective?
but if you stop the same WU 2-3 times, it will fail and request a new WU from stanford
oh, before I forget to ask, I have no idea what that Lenny face question means for the entry form. Am I supposed to just copy/paste the example?
28 mins guys!!!!
it's not like I can fill it out yet until my stats show up on EOC
Yeah like half an hour after it gets going the performance is like either one half or one third the normal performance
@rich depot Are the prizes separate from the order sheet like last year or are they one and the same?
oh
I can read
yes
No I checked temps during the time it was doing this
SoYouStart cools their servers efficiently enough
The Xeon and 4790k servers sit in the 60s
i just got my folding systems all set up and configured ๐
NICE! We'll just fold you into our ranks
i did it last year but now my setup is like 10x more stable
@rich depot need some advice
shoot
My 5820K died last year and that's when I upgraded to the 8700K I have now. I'm not sure if it was the board or the chip (I suspect board). Should I get another X99 board and build a new PC with that or no
Whats the system for?
hmm...
I'd need at least one more GPU to populate it though
Potentially 2 if it supports 3 GPUs
Probably not though cause cooling would be atrocious
5820k not worth it with the limited number of PCIe lanes, grab a x79 board and a e5-1620v2 (40 PCIe lanes)
Try to get the chip tested and sell it on to finance the purchase
my browser keeps reloading the client o chrome but i was using it earlier now its open on edge? anyone expirience it Chrome is updated
How much you think I could get for it? 200?
firefox works
150ish
Hm
3 GPU system right there
Not with a 2 slot card, no
huh?
You'll be running tj max the whole time
1x 3 slot card and 2x 2 slot cards should fit
Ew 3 slot cards
If you get blower cards they should run within spec
Trust me, this is what I have running
Power limit to 75% and add an OC to make up for it
loud af though
I have a blower card, it doesn't like it
I ran it at 100% fan all last time, I know how it is lol
And I'm not restricting any of my cards, they're running full tilt the whole time
You need a side and bottom intake to make it work btw
I ran no side panel with a floor fan blowing directly on it
...
on both comps
what ambient temp you have there exactly?
hmm...
I mean it was hovering around 77-78 but I set temp max to 78
Yeah it was running max boost clock
Or very close when it throttled
anything under 85 is fine
set temp target to 85, lower power limit to 75% and use OC to make up the clock drop, it works well
most GPUs, especially nvidias, boost outside of their efficiency range.
So by doing this you keep it in that efficiency spot
You must have missed what I said earlier
and you see some because it isnt boosting to stupid high clocks, but it does better than leaving it on its own to do its thing
What did you say?
IK, but thats the problem, to get that 2-5% higher clocks you are increasing power by 20%
GPU boost doesnt care about efficiency, only heat
I know
but by doing it this way you get more PPD from the card usually as it isnt bouncing the clocks all over the place
You can get more*
the other option is to throw a water-cooled card in the middle
update times people!!!!!
I would if I had that flexibility
same
Lol trust me, in an instant
even AIO modded cards give breathing room
True, I have a couple AIOs lying around, I've thought about doing that
Still haven't completed a wu to get listed. Rip
damn dude why does it do this
https://files.phoenixonaroof.me/P8nocLD.jpeg literally tanked so far down I'd have to babysit it running
That's the xeon system that was normally at or around 100k per day

How hot is everyone's GPU running on full utilization?
I feel like mine is high at 170F
Ah yes. Forgot to convert from Bald Eagles lol
If it's not out of the ordinary to run that warm then I'll leave it alone. My CPU is running at about 135F or 57C
Holding at 70C for me
Although my GPU only has one fan. GTX1060 3GB
adjust the fan curve perhaps if you want it to run cooler
I was folding on two servers but I've stopped because it just isnt worth it
After about half an hour of constantly running the performance from those clients goes way down to the point that its practically wasting the cpu power
Fan isn't noticeably loud and temps are constant. Looks like I'm leaving it
how long should it take before any of my stats show up?
I think a few hours or 1 work unit. I'm in the same boat
finally mae it in leaderbord
@snow escarp same
I'm getting desperate.. only 40k ppd average this year
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/433705432431984661/626601091492085770/unknown.png?width=812&height=110
what does the team name do in folding?
it's the name of the team you're folding for
is there one for the LTT group?
i'm still trying to figure out why the program wont use my gpu but the set up is done other than the team
during setup you're supposed to give the id of the team you're folding for, if any.
LTT's id is 223518
by any chance would you know why folding won't use my gpu
it says ready but it doesn't do anything
GPU folding requires the power slider to be in either Medium or Full.
i am unclear as to what it is asking for with the stats page on the contest signup, what page does it need a link too and how do i find it?
hey can someone give me a link or explain to me how to set folding up?
You can help scientists studying Alzheimers, Huntingtons, and many cancers by simply running a piece of software on your computer.Join others around the world to form the worlds largest distributed supercomputer.Here is link to download the software....http://folding.stanford...
thanks
Just check the Folding, Boinc and crypto board on the LTT forums, there's a couple of guides pinned to the top of the thread which explain how to set it up and there's also a really detailed FAQ thread as well
ok so it is running, however my CPU load is only 50%
What CPU is it? What do you have the power slider set to (Light, Medium, Full)?
50% usage sounds about right if you've assigned it 7 threads (8c/16t CPU)
Oh I somehow thought that meant cores
IIRC it goes by threads not physical cores
Check Task Manager by showing usage by threads not overall
ah now it is at 90% using 15
Keep a few threads/cores spare for any GPU slot as well as just for your system to run normally, like browsing the web and stuff so it doesn't impact performance too much
my gpu however is running at 15%
are there any settings to be changed?
I have a 1080 and it is supported
Yeah, Task Manager doesn't show Cuda usage... Click the drop down on one of the boxes and change it to show Cuda
Got the team set to 223518?
yes
If you haven't already, make sure you also register with a passkey and put the passkey in to your folding client (advanced client > config > Identity)
https://apps.foldingathome.org/getpasskey
That authenticates your account and will make you eligible to receive quick return bonuses after successfully completing a few work units, and you'll earn a lot more points
oh hell, now Iโm poking around pcpartpicker.com
Iโve been trying to hold out until the next gen RTX cards before building a new gaming rig
Sigh, my gpu is unstable again, time for a little break while I try to get it working again
and someone in another discord pointed out that cyberpunk will cone out before the next rtx cards... I dont need more reasons to upgrade!
https://prnt.sc/pb97ox
https://prnt.sc/pb984f
I guess 5700 xt isn't supported atm?
Racked up more than a million points in the last 12 hours, discovered that one of my GPUs had turned off.
GPU1 is back in action following a restart.
Not sure what made it drop off in the first place.
Current WUs have not been interrupted, thank goodness.
@rancid frost theres a current bug with the folding sw
You can also kill the fahclient process and restart it without knocking the entire machine offline btw
The GPU itself wasn't responding, that's why I rebooted.
ahh
nevermind then
knock back core clock, even factory OCs ca nbe unstable for folding
I've knocked it back to factory OC for now, it seems to run with no problem on that.
thats good then
This weekend, the network upgrade is going up.
Just over a million points in 12 hours, though. Gonna monster this competition.
Messed with my gpu for some hours and sigh I guess I'll replace it later
I thought about making a 3d animated logo for the ltt folding month
It's hard to animate protein folding ๐
There's a 3D folding animation build in to F@H client
^^^
How long does it take to download a WU? I think I've been stuck
why isn't my GPU being used fully? it was last night, now it's staying below 10% usage even when the program's power is set to 'full' mode https://i.kio.dev/0lM.png
Change one of the graphs in Task Manager to Cuda
How do I do that in task manager?
oh wait
is it called something different..? https://i.kio.dev/4wY.png
wait nvrmind im just blind

@potent oar Just animate the LTT Logo folding in half on a sheet of paper and show a smiling molecular structure on the folded half.
Heh
@brave reef leave one core for the OS or you will kill the PPD
@olive cedar @fierce steppe Apparently the compute_0 graph is more accurate for folding, no idea if its true though
I checked the CUDA graph, since that's whats used for folding. It's maxed out, I guess that's what I was looking at earlier 
imagine installing the folding@home client onto the TaihuLight supercomputer 
@olive cedar I remember a story when some guy got 12m PPD, it turns out he was using the french national atomic research super-computer. this was 2009, a freaking super computer man, doing 12m
Now a 2080ti gets 2.5m PPD
he eventually got caught and was sacked
jeez
ikr
i mean my wimpy 1060 6gb gets 350k ppd 
It was fun to read through the old folding forum threads watching everyone freak out over the PPD though
kinda amazing how far computers have come
yep
Look at this guy from PCGH https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=322353
Interesting...
Seems that @rich depot was right about me not needing to turn the entire machine off, because it wasn't that the GPU stopped working, it's that it ran into a download error. The CPU ran into the same trouble earlier.
At which point the program does need to be re-started, because after whatever download error this is, it just sort of gives up.
Told you man
And here I thought the GPU had just quit on me, since that profile has such an aggressive fan curve.
What's that bug you were talking about? Does it relate to this?
@rich depot Ah thanks, I'll add an extra core to the VM when it finishes this WU so it can actively fold on 8 cores
@brave reef no worries
@rancid frost yes, it's a bug in one of the work assignment servers
Okay cool, as long as nothing's wrong on my end.
Just gotta remember to reset it now and then...maybe I should figure out how to script it...
Gorgon over here talked about how to do it https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1091921-ltt-official-folding-month-2019/, maybe just ping him and ask
LTT Folding Month 2019! Starts October, 1st (00:00 BST) Ends November, 4th (23:59 GMT) Folding@home team LTT id#: 223518 (This event is only for folding for team LTT you will not qualify if you are folding independent or for another team, sorry.) This event will be eligible f...
@rancid frost
this looks so nice
@split cipher why so big?
๐คท itโs on whatever auto settings
Its just the protein being simmed, just happens to be one of the biggest I've seen
Is there any way to get the viewer working on a gpu?
Nvidia
nice, not getting new WU
going to be a cold night with no GPU's cranking out heat ๐ฆ
wats the team number??
@final hinge perhaps a download error?
I went into the files and deleted the 0KB workload
then I got WUs again
223518
thanks
The protein viewer has never worked for me. Always stuck on demo
I wonder how much this is costing me in electricity
also, it's silly, but I was slightly bummed by that number after the client says I'm getting ~1.3M ppd
Nvidia cards do better in FAH? Odd
sighs
looks like my client is failing to send two completed WU's
oh good, one just uploaded
Can I run both AMD and Nvidia cards if I run the AMD cards in hyper-V VM?
Yes @fierce steppe
Is it a total pain in the ass?
You need to have the GPU passed through to the VM so it can run native to the OS, make sure it has at least 2 cores for the VM, id recommend 3
3 cores? Damn you and your fancy 8 core CPUs.
I only have a pittance of cores available on my 6700k
If you can use GPU pass-through its not much more hassle than doing it on a bare metal machine
3 threads*
@snow escarp that was it, thanks!
You can run both nvidia and amd without a vm
Though the drivers can be a hassle sometimes
@vernal oasis
I tried that last year but the drivers didn't want to play nice.
Tried it again now and it seems to be working fine.
1.2M PPD on my 1080Ti with another 190K for my HD7970
Just passed 100 WU
I'm surprised by the temps of the HD7970, I was expecting with only half a slot clearance to the 1080Ti below it that temps would be much higher, but it's sitting at around 73-75C on the core and 77-80C on the VRAM.
i'm gettin up there :D https://i.kio.dev/Pte.png
Looks like I'm up to 3,692
Do you get QRB for the first 10 WU after you finish 10+ WUs?
i cant get the web control to link to my local client
it's not working for me either
@rich depot FOLDING AWAY ๐
@stuck bramble NICE!
@neon dagger I5 7400
GPUs generally complete WUs a lot faster due to the way folding works
Similar to mining, a lot of the same stuff over and over again. So it benefits from tons of low power cores, whereas CPUs have a couple high power cores that focus on doing many different things simultaneously
Makes sense thanks @stiff plaza
Didn't know that
Also I have it on medium, right now studying don't want to go full power
my cpu seems to be able to function well even at 100%, so ive left it on full for a while
My CPU just... can't
so I removed it from folding
Most people run just GPU anyways
Unless you have a server CPU or something with a bunch of cores
how do i turn off CPU im runing fine but its at 90%
got it i finished it and deleted CPU
You good? ^^
Is under/ over clocking GPU any good for folding?
@thick holly Thanks to my superchat last night
woo, broke a million points for the team
looks like made the top 500 of active users
for some reason my points have dropped in the last days from ~800 to ~600 without me changing anything
my guess is some WUโs are more valuable than others?
or you mean you lost points from your score or something?
the PPD output of each WU vary. So, some give more and some give less.
or you could be like me a have your PC doing nothing cause of that bad server
yeah, mine keeps occasionally getting that server and hang on downloads of WUs
Yeah i had a bad WU, and after that the daily ppd has not gone up to where it was before
Frankenfolder has had a little upgrade! Before...
And after, I now Christensen thee... Foldatron!
Unfortunately the AIO is a goner so need to get an adequate thermal solution when I gave the cash
oh no, the RGB has infected it. xD
was the cheapest case that had 9 pcie expansion bays
๐ just picking some fun
I bought cheap cases before as well. I still got a Fractal Design I bought on sale where I dremel it to fit an EATX X399 in. xD
My last case has some heavy dremell work to make the EATX fit
This one was a breeze as you can see
can see. New cases sure are easier to work in now.
I still got an old Haf X around where I dremel it to the point of shoving a 360mm rad and 200mm rad and res bay into it. Nice thing is I did the 360mm rad on a bracket I just drop into the top of the case
the bracket
Agreed, really didnt want the glass covered rainbow vomit, but the next case of this size was almost double the price
I will prob fab my own metal side panel so I can mount some fans blowing air into the GPUs, but the 980ti at the bottom has access to fresh air through a filter and runs around 65C folding
The other cards dont fair as well
@jaunty tide using Chrome?
yeah
Use another browser or incognito mode
The issue is with the caching implementation in Chromium-based browsers, the way to get around this without going incognito is to enable the experimental flag for the new caching implementation:
chrome://flags/#enable-simple-cache-backend
At least that's how we used to do it
But to be honest if say use the advanced viewer, type FAHcontrol into your start menu and off you go
@jaunty tide let me know if you have any more problems
will do, thanks
Hm, I arrived home after twelve freaking hours to discover the Planet Smasher shut off...powering it back on, it started up on remaining work units.
The first blog has just been published https://linustechtips.com/main/blogs/entry/1683-verset/
Well guys, it is my pleasure to once again welcome people from all social echelons of the LTT forum to the second official Linus Tech Tips FOLDING MONTH! We welcome folding titans such as @Den-Fi who is the sitting champion, @Gorgon who will be eyeing up the top spot this yea...
just fyi, you got a funny typo near the end: "When I first tarted folding the team was in decline."
whoops, forgot to unpause after gaming
thanks, my dyslexia at play there
easy to miss, I remember reading something about how our brain is good at โauto-correctingโ as we read
is there a way to limit the WU upload speed on windows?
mine is really limited, an every time it uploads my whole net gets super sluggish
@final hinge in a word... Nope
Gotta ask, what kinda bandwidth are you on to see an effect?
my up is ~1Mbps
the upload takes a few minutes, i mean it is mostly a short annoyance, but still
damn... you still on dial-up? @final hinge
dude, DSL!
20/1
i ive in the middle of no where, so there are not enough customers for the only ISP to upgrade their stuff
i am lucky i still have a copper line, here in finland the ISP's have been getting rid of physical lines and replaced them with 4G
and here they are allowed to advertise the 4G connections with their theoretical max speeds, speeds that have nothing to do with reality ๐
the speed of my phone plan is 150/150, but prime time i get something like 5/.5 XD
@rich depot what's the cheapest way to get 3 GPUs worth of PCIe lanes
@stiff plaza Chinese x79 board with an e5-2609
Ok excluding X79
Is a 1050W PSU good enough to run... let's say two 2080s and a 1080, or 2 1080 Tis and a 1080, or 3 1080 Tis or something like that
Yes, assuming it's a good 1050W power supply and has enough PCIe power connectors for everything.
Though, I'd still power limit the cards (80% or so would probably be best for folding efficiency)
Ahh yeah I'm not good at power limiting cards
It's just a slider in MSI afterburner or whatever software you use where you adjust it from 0% to -20%
rosewill photon 1050 is $120, it's on the top tier in the list
Yeah, I meant I like to slide it right, not left lol
Ok just to make sure, on a 40 lane CPU I can run 5 GPUs in 8x right? Or would I only be able to run 4 to leave some for like the SATA bus and stuff
@stiff plaza which CPU and which motherboard?
Nothing inparticular
Though I do have a line on an E5-2620 V3 and Asus Z10PA-U8 @fierce steppe
Am I insane or is the specifications and manual for the Asus Z10PA-U8 wrong?
Says the 2nd slot is PCI and that 6th slot is PCIe... But looking at the pictures that definitely isnt that case :S
lmao true
Assuming you can physically fit the cards in some how
You would have 4 slots with x8 with that motherboard/CPU
Top one is chipset
Slot 2 and Slot 4 are the x16 slots, but will run as x8 mode with the other slots occupied
Then you can use slot 3 and slot 5 which are x8
Slot 2 and Slot 6 should be swapped in that table above
I'm cool with 4
I wouldn't go more than 4 with a 1000W PSU anyway
Oh yeah power... Guess I'll be getting a 1200w or something lol
You don't already have the Rosewill Photon 1050W PSU you mentioned earlier?
wait... how does it have 3 PCIe ports with 8 PCIe cables
idek
logic
maybe it's 4 cables with an 8 on one side an a double 8 on the other? and they call that "8" 6+2 pins
Cooler master V platinum 1300 got me covered tho
oh weird, there's different versions of the Photon
oh wow
Rosewill-1350 has 10 PCIe cables with the same 3 ports
The reason why they have such odd connector counts for the cables is because they use 4 PCIe cables on a single cable
So 1050 with 8PCIe cables is 2x2 connector cables + 1x4 connector cable
1350W with 10PCIe cables is 1x2 connector cable + 2x4 connector cable
what? so... one cable ends with 4 8 pins?
Yep
Yeah, 6x 12V 6x ground
Think I'm still gonna go with the CM psu, it's a tier above the photon
50 watts less tho :feelsbadman: lol
how much for the V1300?
Those are the new ones so no reviews out yet. The one in the tier list is the old V series
^nevermind, there's a review on TH
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cooler-master-v1300-platinum-power-supply,6115.html
is in spot 107
chuckles I'm in danger
lol
@sinful urchin 95ยฐC? What CPU cooler are you using?
I'm confused as to why it's not showing me on the folding at home team.
I linked the app and everything, and I'm on my 154th WU o.O
@fierce steppe I'm running 4 cards on an 850w....
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Which 4 cards? Are they 4 1080tis?
I have a 1000W psu but no gpu rn
My main rig has a EVGA SC2 hybrid 1080ti and a aorus waterforce 1080
and a few days ago my 2080 stopped working so now im running on cpu
Also have an ungodly number of RGB fans for a server lmfao
They were included in my defense
lol
2060 is only going to be like 175W at stock, so that would be fine with the other cards
I think they were asking about running 1080Tis with 2080s which are going to use more power
Plus I know you know how to limit their power consumption for efficiency ๐
I might pickup this thing though
Where as other people are like "Power Target slider? Yeah that can be maxed"
I live in one of the most expensive electricity areas i guess
@fierce steppe the 980ti pulls like 250w due to its settings lmfao. But yeh, the cards on water have mixed power and voltage sliders
Yeah 980Tis are a bit heavy
It's running at 1400mhz which is nice
I got two slots but I just am probably not going to run two gpus
I did before though
I really hate how so many product shots of the RTX series graphics cards, even on manufacturer websites, are still just renders and not actual photos
Oh I miss the days when OCing was actually worth it
Before the days of GPUboost and XFR/PBO
@rich depot how's the new case going btw? I saw the photo of the hole your fan cut in to the backplate
Yeah I wish gpus worked a bit more like intel cpus in overclocking
It's going well, probably not going to seal her up with that stupid glass though
The cards are kinda toasty though
I bought one of those electric dusters to clean out the dust in my system
Maybe a few delta fans forcing air between the cards would help...
I should dust clean my pc as well
Yeah I do the dusting every few months
I haven't dusted since before last years folding event when I replaced the PSU & new SSD
I got around 6200 hours of on time since mid 2018
Those are rookie numbers
Hi there just joined you folding
any advice on best setup? I'm running ryzen 3900x and 2070s
Does it look good?
Man, I have 2 systems going at folding. Second one I put to go is a champ. Is doing WUs in less than an hour. 1950x oced and liquid cooled+Radeon VII
meanwhile I'm puttering along with my plebian R5 1600X and 2070
other rig is a 2200g until December and a vega 64
Lel i got a milion point in a night
Imma let it finish this WU then shut it off for the day then run it during the Destiny 2 24 hour down time.
but keep the vega 64 one going. cuz right now I don't need to go to a sauna. Sitting in a room with a 1950x, VII ,and a Vega 64 all doing full WUs at once. XD
@stuck bramble 980, 980ti, 2x 1080, 1080ti and a 2060... I feel like I'm slowly cooking
OOf rip you
Suana room that sounds like
just open a window 4head
After 5WUs the VII was throttling like crazy and eventually shut the system down. XD
Yesterday before I started folding again I was at 147 WUs completed now I'm at 165
@thorn meadow I got the vega 64 used but it didnt work so I sent it to RMA, during the rma I bought the geforce as it took 3 months to rma
Then I used both for folding until I sold the vega
ah
hi all ๐ i just join folding ๐ i9 9900 + 2070. is there some disease that doesnt support gpu or something? cuz i waited on the alzheimer and my gpu doesnt kick off
@fierce steppe Corsair H150i pro
With Kryonaught paste
With three Noctua fans on it all sitting at 100%
That's with the 3900x having all cores sitting at 100% load. I don't think my Mobo got the BIOS udoate to fix the 3900x not getting proper boost
9.8 million points, 156 WUs, 1 million per day on both GPUs, 44k per day on the CPU, GPUs both slaving away at 180k point WUs, and the room is still very comfortable to exist in.
I have, however, re-heated some orange chicken on GPU1's backplate.
@stuck bramble slight modification to foldatron
@proven marlin I got my skin looks beautiful after this month!
I hope*
Ah i see that the case go too hot
Boom! Just passed 10mil!
confetti
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@stuck bramble to be honest i was just running it with the side panel off, the CPU temps were okay but all them GPUs butted right up against each other makes for some bad juju
Yea i was running into that problem with my 10gbit network card in my main rig XD
It got so hot it would shutdown the card
Aka no network
Rip
Doesn't help backplates are not really within pcie spec
although neither is my 2.7 slot 980ti
I'm just too last to take them off
Already had to do one
Rip back plate
Agreed
Had to dial back a bit. Gonna have people over for a couple days.
push it more so you can cook up some food on them backplates @rancid frost
what are you guys' points at? i have 263k racked up, that good?
i have 1.25 million. how long have you been going at it
like 3 days constant
what cpu and gpu you using
1.8 mil for me so far. I've been gaming today, so paused for like half the day
Xeon X3470, and a 2gig 1050
sounds about right for your hardware
you think?
What does a 2080 do in PPD?
Trying to figure out of the price difference between a 1080 Ti would be worth it
i have a 2070 and i can get a little more than 1 mill ppd
when it get hot it stays around 2010mhz but when its cool enough it will go up to 2070mhz and the mem stays at 7200mhz
Gotcha
the temp stays in the low to mid 60's
dang that's really good
Stupid question. How and where do you find your stats page on that website?
on the stanford website or on extreme overclocking? @twilit mist
The easiest one to guide me through
How long does it take my name to appear?
I guess I should ask?
when did you start folding
EOC updates every 3 hours, according to central time. As for stanford, I have no idea lol
https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/ start by going there
This is the website everyone else uses
done that
on the left side click all users list
jk, just search your folding name
the site will update at 10pm eastern
I even went to the LTT team and sorted by name and couldn't find mine
Well like you said it's been 10 minutes
i found mine
Have you completed a work unit?
no
Ok well no wonder ๐
That's what I was wondering.
I'll check tomorrow when I wake up.
Thanks for checking my sanity.
no problem
Uh oh. 2080 Ti for $900? ๐ค
evga?
yeah
its a good card then
Lol that's not quite how it works, but I know what you mean
how much is a 1080ti that you are looking at go for
Looks like they are mid 400s, but 2080s are only $100 or so more and put out a good bit more points
pre owned?
Yeah, I pretty much don't buy new GPUs
That said, a 2070 super for $500 new is a seriously insane deal
that it is
Has anyone tested if nvidia studio drivers are better for folding?
funny, I actually tried folding with those on my 2080 earlier today... yesterday
it didn't seem substantially different, but it's hard to tell when each WU varies widely in value and difficulty
True. Maybe I'll leave one system like that for a few days and try to see.
is there a table somewhere showing Points Per a Day and Points per Watt between 10, 16, and 20 series cards, like this?
https://greenfoldingathome.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/1070-efficiency-plot.jpg
Trying to get an idea of power draw for the rest of the month
1 night of folding lmao https://bluecrazii.nl/images/chrome_EClshU7A6p.png i was at 3000 to 3100 range before goinig to bed ๐
Anyone know how i can force a rtx 2060 out of P2 state, to allow it over base clocks?
how much 'waste heat' can i expect out of a gpu. assuming that an electric heater is 100% efficient in converting electricity to heat
cause im coold.
@stark bough Simiconductors are bad at producing heat, since that not what they are designed to do.
They are made to produce little heat, while being effective.
Thats that 1/x question, how much work can be expected to turn out as waste heat, rought back of the envelope calculation
im assuming as freq increases, so does waste heat
Depends on the card
When the frequency and voltages increase so does the heat output
2012 MHz., 1.044 V
41C
Been trying to get more information on optomizing my 1070 specifically
For ballpark measues just look at the TDP of the chip, while folding just take about 80% of tdp.
all utilization falls under CUDA, right?
Folding uses cuda yes
trying to monitor under task manager
so if its 150 W rated, i should expect about 100 W in waste heat?
or about 1/10th the heat this woudl produce?
proberly about right yes. but it is a little hard to say.
@timber grove I have just over 1 billion points
@stark bough basically it converts watts to heat, so if it's using 200w it would throw out 200w of heat
That is the naive way of thinking of it yes.
probably the 'best way' is use a bomb calirimeter and in line power meter, but thats a bit much.
I'm trying to configure local monitoring/config of my desktop, is it accessible through safari on ios?
Why not use the advanced client?
How can i force a rtx 2060 into P0-state, it is stuck in P2 state at base clocks, while folding WU 14225....
Advanced client is FAHcontrol, right?
yes
I'm trying to set it up so when im in another part of the house, i can monitor and pause folding from my ipad
If the folding machine is 192.168.1.100, in theory if I set my ipad to 192.168.1.200, i should be able to access the web client from 192.168.1.100:36330 after setting in Configure>Remote Access> IP Address Restriction to
127.0.0.1, 192.168.1.0/24 and get a password prompt, right?
i could use moonlight gamestreaming to monitor but I read that using remote desktop apps cause problems
nice @rich depot
Nice? @timber grove
Whats the ppd for those around bottom 100?
Im guessing that top 100 is mostly out of reach of single gpu/cpu rigs?
Tring to figure out what prize tiers I should strive for
Ahh I forgot we were on GMT
The timing when I saw that post :/
Bruh @rich depot how hard would it have been to put it in the same time zone lol
Lmfao
I like to confuse people. Plus we get an extra hour of folding month then
@stiff plaza
damn brits
I was planning on timing it so my WU finished right at the start lol for the extra bump in points, now i'm one whole WU behind
rip
Oh, is it only points during the 5 weeks that count?
Uh yeah
lol I thought you had to end top 100 within a month
"there's no way I'm getting 120M in 30 days"
Haha
@stark bough
https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&srt=4&t=223518
If you sort by points week that's a good estimate
hey, you'd be surprised
FINALLY I have rejoined the race.
I'm a raw beginner at crimping ethernet cable, so it took me a couple hours to get it all lined up.
Nice.
I think they should have run it another couple days but probably something to do with the way they calculate it
I work overnights and totally missed the post. Didn't think it would be opened on a weekend.
@stiff plaza @fluid gust Sign ups have been open for almost 2 months
I know, idc lol
last year we have about 100 problems come from having sign ups open during the event
I might have gotten it then if it is the same link I thought it was.
Wasn't sure if it was same sign up link as the one to have your name added to the list of registered folders to be eligible for prizes.
We started the data validation process at 00:47 we just finished now, every time a new person is added we have to validate the WHOLE sheet again as we learned the hard way last year
310 sign ups last years vs 1754 this year, decisions had to be made
I will be post a complete list soon(in the next 12 hours or so, on the blog, so keep an eye out
btw its not 04:47 here
now*
Thank you Spectrum.
No worries, if I can help at all please do PM me on the forum, GOTSpectrum
wait it took 4 hours to validate? lol
If it's a spreadsheet macro those can take a while to run.
hand validating each entry...
Oof
ah yeah macros
Macros dont work for the first validation due to having to reorder the sheet to match UNIX sorting methods
should be smoother in future as we have multiple methods of tracking errors like conditional formatting and the like
also cant macro it because F@H stats dont product a zero for people who have producing no points yet, instead it just doesn't out put anything, so there are massive gaps in the stats vs the sheet
You lost me at unix
Not me
XD
I mean it might help if Stanford updates the site too.
It's straight out of 2005.
I don't think they updated that site since it came up
also the fact unix ignores some characters such as hythons....
We son't use the site, we pull the data right from stanford servers
No, they've only added WUs lol
Oh my, yeah Unix hates hyphens
Does the API return 0s or is that what you are hooking into?
nope, no 0s, just ignore the record entirely
thats like 50% of the problem, the other 50% is stupid unix and hyphens(along with some other characters)
we are hopefully building our own EOC like stats server for next year, development is already under way
Nice.
say that if we get it all sorted, for now its a pipedream
But will be nice to have pretty graphs and the link
the like*
drop the idle speed, sounds better if it's not cammed
True gamers assemble in 5 min! https://t.co/1H4OvevrKP
292
3978
You can tell when the ramp up started, lol
Is there a teamlink just for the monthโs ranking?
I don't think so, though you can tell who has been active and see month production for individual users manually
Hey, how do I know if I signed up for the LTT folding month? I believe I did so a while back but I cannot recall.
first time for me so hopefully I made signup :O I started folding a few days prior to make sure that my stats populated
I think Spectrum said they'd post a list sometime soon
Electric duster arrived today. Gave the system a good clean out.
Kinda wish it arrived a day earlier as I lost valuable folding time while cleaning, but thankfully it didn't take long to clean
also sadly the heat immediately killed an old hard drive I forgot I had setup as a cache which ended with a BSOD D:
hahaha fair enough. been looking for an excuse to pop another M.2 drive on my rig
The rig is now in my bedroom, where it has access to a cement wall against the outside that keeps ambient temperatures cool, and a window to open over the next few days as temperatures drop.
I got mine in a west facing living room with a vaulted celing on the first floor, gonna be cold there anyways.
I got both sides of the room running with hepa air purifiers so I hope that helps with dust
My dust filters have been very dusty so I cleaned out those, but I need to clean what came past the filters in my pc sometime soon.
Yeah i cleaned my dust filters, not looking forward to cleaning the fans on my blower
What do you guys think: the case I got for my new gaming rig has the option to mount the motherboard inverted. This way, the gpu would be at the top, and I could have intake fans blowing cooler air from outside the case towards the gpu. That seems logical right?
@rich depot ๐ https://bluecrazii.nl/images/chrome_Nm7SHYtDe7.png
anyone else using F@H Visualization? is there a bug that keeps the name/team Current Work unit stats from displaying? I'm seeing some molecule visualized, but no stats
Is it stuck saying demo?
no. im just assuming that its visualizing real data, but its probably confused since i got both a cpu and gpu running a WU
looks like theres no connnection
Just spent the last few minutes veryfing im registered and my work units are actually counting, was a bit worried at first
my name and some WU's were counted on the official post so thats piece of mind, i manually inputted my key.
Also, web control is just borked, right? keeps on refreshing every second with no data
Oh yea that webpage with no data i do have that sometimes
most of the time fixes it self for me ๐
It worked at first but now its just irrevelant.
I think it was mentioned that chrome has issues with that webpage. I havent had any problems using firefox
Time to get serious. 
Yeet
@rich turtle do you have a A variant and a non-A variant 2080 TI? DO they SLI together good or do u think getting 2 A variant is best
I'm getting an A variant but they should work fine together
the A just should OC slightly better and have higher factory clock
I don't SLI them, so I wouldn't know. The non-A variant is a blower card that'll only be used during folding sprints. It's usually just a 1 card box.
Only if I crank it to 100%.
I wouldn't recommend them for a room you sit in though. Most of my folding rigs are isolated from people so I run the fans at 100%.
yah i c
my vega64 has some issue with vbios and sometimes it turn the fan to 100% randomly, really scared the shit out of me sometimes
what temps do you get and how do you cool the room?
@rich turtle
central or room/mini split?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/375436621450969089/628649247843155969/image0.jpg?width=676&height=676
i have no idea if this will cut down on dust but why not
Blue Air 411 with Hepa filtration
@rich turtle How the fuck did you get that list of other folding devices working cause for me it never works XD
I am feeling bad about only having a 1080 TI
im tempted to get a riser card, connect it to my tb3 nuc, and see if i can get my old r9 270 working again to mine
I could trow a 970 in the mix tho but is it worth it ๐
Dunno, whats the PPD/W compared to a 1060?
@stark bough with the FAHViewer if you look in bottom left hand corner it says that it's showing the Demo and is trying to connect
DUnno lol
It's never worked for me. I think it's just borked.
But if anyone knows how to get it working let me know
as long as im throwing out WU, it doesnt need to be accurate
I add them by IP @stuck bramble But you have to make windows firewall exclusions even on the same network. At least I do.
What is a Hepa filter?
970 might throw out 300k more PPD at a higher wattage
Is it neccessary
@stuck bramble you have to add your LAN (or main PC's IP address) in the remote access allow list and make sure there are firewall exceptions for FAHClient.exe on the folding machines
oh and don't use a password in remote access
Thx shall look into it

What are the 3 numbers in parentheses here? work unit identifiers?
Minecraft coordinates
well im not mining, so souldnt it be foldcraft coordinants? ๐
Shhhhhh...

@stark bough PRCG numbers relating to the work unit/protein you're working on
thats what i figured
You can pretty much ignore them
๐
RIP
Can anyone help me figure out whats the estimated PPD i could get on a MacBook 9,2?
probably not much but I just want some WUs logged every day when my gpu computer is down
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None since it would overheat like instantly
I need to find a spare device i can do work on when my gaming computer is off to get the 20 day threshhold.
Are there any utilities or settings out there that would let me schedule so most of my work is done during 8-5?
@stark bough Ask gorgon on the forum thread, he talks about using scripts and/or windows scheduler to do just this
The ads for the LTT folding thread 
im like 99% sure i signed up for folding month
but i did also stay up till 3am

cant find my name on the list
F

i kida panicked when the visualization didnt work and i wasnt sure i put in my key right
is there a way to personalize the extremeoverclocking page so you can compare yourself and other users directly instead of the entire team?
D:
slow spooder. you should be pepe le snowpoke
I'm too lazy to dig up my power meter, and even then theres time of use to think about
4-9 power consunsumption prices double. at least the house im using it at got solar.
I think im drawing about 500 watts through my ups in total
oh yeah i forgot that ups with screens have a draw meter
its tied up on my nas though, and im not unplugging that ๐
Kek i just use it as a general estimate i dont expect it to be too accurate
I got a intel nuc with a tb3 in, and a 'possibly' dead video card, got an old psu from a prebuilt
im gonna look for some more gpus in systems at the surplus on saturday
was thinking i could get a riser adapter for it, dunno if it supports hot plug
see if i can find any like gtx 5**+
oh yeah i should look into my power budget.
650 W should be able to handle two cards, right?
was thinking i could dig up a 470 somewhere. or older.
im thinking about sneaking over to my neighbors house and using his 'fx' to put in some wu's for me ๐
he owes me anyway for plex ๐
i wanna throw something better than quadro 4000s in my fx8350 machine
but im looking for them cheap
the rig you got got its own room? how are you handling dust filtration?
just cleaning every week with a shop vac