#the-wan-show

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short cape
random trout
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Nah, it's just twitch being twitch - the most reliably unreliable streaming service. YouTube is up.

tepid dust
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@dusty basalt they probably didnt know the stream was down for a bit and since their server probably back log the video for a bit
so since the internet was cut for a bit
the server has the stream paused

wary girder
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people just need to chill out and LISTEN to them. because they actually support the people YOU are supporting....

tepid dust
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and the people controlling the stream is fixing it in the background and wont interrupt them(Linus and Luke)

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the stream is dying again

steep hedge
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I mean I sort of like the idea of duality as far as ltt goes, a lot of tech is right out of china, but like linus mentioned earlier being a canadian and with how chinas been the last year or more to us....

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past blatant trolling no real reason for people to say they're pro-china

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haha

distant hatch
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jesus that whole blizzard topic deadass set off the bomb in the edgy poltical types. Some in the chat wont shut up about it lmao

steep hedge
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not chinese designed tech no

twilit finch
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Omg luke xD

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Luke's like IMA END THIS GIRL'S CAREER

steep hedge
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but the manufacturing is still china related

distant hatch
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i almost forgot that luke did that. Im glad linus brought it up again lmao

steep hedge
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they did some episodes in china in the past

twilit finch
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@distant hatch Is there video footage of this??

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I wanna see it xD

distant hatch
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im not sure. I remember it being mentioned on a previous wan show wayy back

twilit finch
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Awh man

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And yeah, that YT chat is full of super political mad-hacks

distant hatch
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yee

twilit finch
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I almost sent a superchat saying how Americans in particular get any over China's crap but STILL buy their stuff

hazy granite
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Linus has been pro-China, pro-Genocide... and PRO-CHEATING WITH PREDICTIVE AI IN GAMES

amber stirrup
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😮

lapis pasture
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I was listening to WAN show while working out and it suddenly cut out

amber stirrup
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China is facist though

twilit finch
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Im pro Hong Kong but I still find it so funny how people can be so hypocritical

distant hatch
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true @twilit finch

lapis pasture
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also, I'm not a moderator or anything, but something tells me we shouldn't get too political here

amber stirrup
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yeah the labels they put on themselves are accurate with how they run

twilit finch
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@distant hatch Especially when it's the same people who support Donald Trump >.>

distant hatch
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deadass

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it really be like that

twilit finch
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@distant hatch It still hits me like a block how people can sit down and support this dude.

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Now in the beginning, even I kinda liked what he said, but once he started appealing more towards the racists.. he lost me there

amber stirrup
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I don't like populists in general

distant hatch
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i can see that reasons as to why some would support him (mainly the appeal of bringing back jobs), but ye a lot of actions hes taken dont really have good optics

twilit finch
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Then it gets me more because they say "Oh the media is lying"

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I'm like "WHAT?! HOW?"

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"There is footage that this man lies!"

distant hatch
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ayy gotta have some hope lol. Nice seeing some fellow yang gang in here

amber stirrup
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UBI is good my problem with Yang is he wants to do that and keep the current welfare system as well

twilit finch
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@keen bloom Right??

distant hatch
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DEADASS it lowkey ticks me off cause people really think that food stamps, that limit the type of produce you can buy, is better than just straight cash.

amber stirrup
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the whole point of UBI is it cuts out the administration costs and inefficiencies of welfare

twilit finch
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@distant hatch wow

amber stirrup
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exactly

twilit finch
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Right!

amber stirrup
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plus maybe people can grow some of their own food and then use the money for something else

twilit finch
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I am so glad Im around logical thinking people!

steep hedge
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they both like the tim hortons chili

south skiff
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i like to imagine China censored the wan show and that's why it got cut off as soon as linus started talking about hong kong

distant hatch
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im pretty sure once it gets implemented many will see that the ubi's benefits will far outweigh those of the current welfare system.

steep hedge
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i know how that chili is made, I worked in the place that ground the meat for it

amber stirrup
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It's that Huawei networking

twilit finch
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@keen bloom What is UBI?

amber stirrup
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universal basic income

lethal wren
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Universal Basic Income

twilit finch
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Ah

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Thanks ^_^

south skiff
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I'm for a UBI paid for by a taxation on machine job replacement, slowly getting more substantial as it gets more prevelent

twilit finch
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I'll go and look it up so I can get a better understanding of it

amber stirrup
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I personally believe people know what is best for them much more than the government

south skiff
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So companies either have to hire more people or get taxed on their robots

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And people who got replaced can have a safety net that's a little more secure than welfare

twilit finch
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@amber stirrup Kinda have to disagree there

south skiff
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Idk man the whole point of a ubi is for job loss. I would tax the bots

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Wait nvrmd you said that

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Yeah I agree

amber stirrup
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Central planning has universally failed when tried

distant hatch
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yup

twilit finch
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@keen bloom Interesting..

south skiff
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It should be an open program too that changes with the times

twilit finch
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UBI sounds pretty neat actually

south skiff
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I also don't think UBI should be living wage. It should be enough to survive but still give incentive to find a job

twilit finch
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Yeah @south skiff

south skiff
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It should also change based on factors like parental status, amount of kids, veteran benifits

amber stirrup
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I kind of prefer a negative income tax

south skiff
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And area that is lived in

amber stirrup
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but the problem with that is I don't trust the government to set the levels right

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It's similar to UBI

south skiff
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@amber stirrup that's why it should be done by the states and providences

amber stirrup
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that's a good idea

south skiff
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Because the federal government is too dumb

twilit finch
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I think UBI should be just enough where you aren't basically on the verge of death but just enough to be an incentive to work

amber stirrup
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well also $1000 in California isn't the same as say North Carolina

south skiff
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I think it should be tested in California with only a small, small amount, using all the extra silicon valley money that's going to waste on headquarters with slides and pools

twilit finch
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@south skiff Though you'd have to watch out how each state implements it though

south skiff
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See if it works

twilit finch
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Could end up with a really terrible governor like the previous one for Louisiana >.>

south skiff
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@twilit finch the states have always been the testing grounds for new ideas

twilit finch
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@south skiff True 🤔

south skiff
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Let them experiment, find the best way

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It's socio-economic with other factors not political

twilit finch
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Oh yeah ._. @keen bloom

distant hatch
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They did test a small ubi program somewhere here in california i believe they gave $500 (dont remember tbh)

twilit finch
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Ah

south skiff
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That's like a meal

twilit finch
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@keen bloom STONKS

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I mean.. I would LOVE to get $500 every year/month >.>

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Especially as a college student

south skiff
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Take a state like Connecticut for example, lots of rich people, automation and a ton of homeless. That would be a good place to try it

twilit finch
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Yeah

south skiff
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Same with Detroit except they would need federal grants to help with it

twilit finch
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@south skiff Louisiana would be a good place too

steep hedge
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UBI is great on paper until you realize that scummy landlords are the main dollar draw every month

south skiff
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Maybe, except it's a pretty conservative state and this is a relatively progressive idea I don't think it would go in Louisiana

amber stirrup
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That would be less of a problem if more housing was built

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but NIMBYs

steep hedge
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they raised the minimum wage in ontario 3 dollars in one go and believe it or not rent is over 1000 for a 1 bedroom

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it was only 800~ before that

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and that was still absurd to me

amber stirrup
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well yeah that is is what happens when you have way more demand than supply

steep hedge
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10 years ago i could get one for 700 and it'd be nice

amber stirrup
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You can give people more money but it won't fix the supply problem

south skiff
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We also federal tax break incentives to large companies like Amazon and Microsoft to build their building out in the upper rust belt and coal country to replace the dying jobs

steep hedge
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social housing is really sketch

south skiff
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Don't forget sweeden they have a working guaranteed housing system

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But they are also quite small

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As a country

twilit finch
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I can do with discussion like this guys ^_^

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Why aren't there more discussions like this in the world???

amber stirrup
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I like Singapore a lot

south skiff
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Either sweeden or Finland. One of the rich Alps countries do it

steep hedge
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government rentals at like 250 cad a month that only exist so welfare reps can tell you that you live really frivolously and irresponsibly in the cheapest apt available without government intervention

south skiff
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Because people are too consumed with partisan federalism and it's halting progress

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Socialism does not work but we do need reforms on new-deal era programs

twilit finch
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Yeah

steep hedge
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i'm all for solutions to problems but none of the solutions people offer function in any way shape or form

amber stirrup
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yeah what Singapore makes sense

twilit finch
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I think the biggest issue is that nothing ever works perfectly to the T

amber stirrup
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they are increasing supply

twilit finch
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Like, it never really plans out

south skiff
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Besides the United States has one of the lowest tax rates for a first world country. Fix the wage/hour gap, raise the income tax a bit and fix the programs

steep hedge
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what will happen to singapores buildings as they age though too

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i dont know much about singapores climate or anything

south skiff
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@steep hedge look at Jersey City subsidised housing and you'll see

steep hedge
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but here in canada, we have all sorts of harsh conditions for buildings

static turtle
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like simply being in canada

twilit finch
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@keen bloom Yeah

south skiff
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Hello from down in literal hell. Can you give us some of your cold to chill out our constantly angry polititians

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Not to be political or anything though

amber stirrup
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oof yeah NJ is bad

south skiff
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Just ya know. 500 filabusters a year halting progress, preventing any of the things we've talked about

twilit finch
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Oh boy <.>

amber stirrup
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well in that area

twilit finch
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@south skiff That and one-sided deals to make money and hold a certain political climate

steep hedge
south skiff
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500 a year... 500 15+ hour speeches, one being a very slow reading of green eggs and ham

steep hedge
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if it takes that long

south skiff
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This is why half the United States is stuck in a cold war mindset, not getting anything done

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The filabuster

amber stirrup
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People own the housing in Singapore so they have incentive to take care of it

steep hedge
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that doesn't mean they're capable of it though

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and when it comes to an apt building, well

lapis pasture
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GWchadMEGATHINK am I the only one thinking that this chat has basically nothing to do with WAN show?

steep hedge
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everyone who shits in your pipeline contributes to the flooding of a lower floor

lapis pasture
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let's talk about WAN show instead then-

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what do you guys think is going on behind the scenes with LMG after that emergency shut-down on stream?

south skiff
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@lapis pasture it started from the China discussion and branched out into socio-economic reforms and then Partisan federalism

steep hedge
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oh yeah I sure want to talk about china and hong kong instead of something interesting

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china beats people with sticks news at 11

south skiff
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Apple sells out Hong Kong protesters with the map function on news at 11

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That's real btw

lapis pasture
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I noticed that the VOD is has a "part 1" tacked onto the end

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so is today's WAN show getting a part 2? lol

outer pivot
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its already there

south skiff
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@lapis pasture it randomly cut off halfway through

distant hatch
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part 2 is up tho

outer pivot
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Part 2

south skiff
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Part 2 just ended

lapis pasture
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PogChomp brb guys

amber stirrup
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They didn't even discuss Apple removing the emoji

outer pivot
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hold up

twilit finch
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@amber stirrup What emoji?

distant hatch
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which emoji?

outer pivot
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what emoji?

twilit finch
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JINX!

steep hedge
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oh god i hope it was the hong kong flag

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that'd be great

outer pivot
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buy me a soda @twilit finch

lapis pasture
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I blame youtube's broken notifications btw

south skiff
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What about apple deleting apps the protesters were using and then selling their locations to the Chinese government for money

twilit finch
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NU

amber stirrup
outer pivot
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oof

distant hatch
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oof

lapis pasture
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oh my

twilit finch
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@amber stirrup Oh wow lol

outer pivot
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f

twilit finch
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Alright, I have no words for that

south skiff
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Apple has committed treason in my opinion

twilit finch
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.> Kinda sounds like Apple supports them at this point

outer pivot
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Zoinks

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really?

south skiff
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So does the NBA, Nike, blizzard.

outer pivot
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hmmm

south skiff
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The UN recognizes Taiwan

outer pivot
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ah

south skiff
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Sorry I'm on phone, autocorrect

outer pivot
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np

south skiff
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My ram died smh

outer pivot
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what phone?

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rekt

south skiff
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Stylo 4

outer pivot
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OoO

south skiff
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Really nice 300 dollar midrange

twilit finch
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Pretty damning evidence there

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Welp, even more reason why not to buy Apple stuff xD

outer pivot
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Suprise Suprise it has a sylus

south skiff
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6.3 inch screen, no notch, stylus, great audio quality, great battery life

outer pivot
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noice

south skiff
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Only problem is the damn backside

twilit finch
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@south skiff OOh is it battery replaceable?

south skiff
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Sadly no @twilit finch

twilit finch
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@south skiff AWH

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Im tempted to go and get a Note 4 and install LineageOS on it

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I hate my LG G6 right now -.-

south skiff
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Oh the back on the Stylo is so terrible I can't deal with it

outer pivot
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Hey, do any of you have any headphone recommendations for like around $150CAD

twilit finch
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And it's sad because I just made this really nice 3d printed case for it

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😄

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Ya'll want to see my case?

outer pivot
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yes

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over the head closed back

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wired

south skiff
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Wanna know why it's 300 dollars? The back side has such a weak plastic that setting it on a table scratched it and my case left impressions

twilit finch
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I printed the case in TPU (not sure what brand because I let someone else make the case for me since I didn't have TPU)

south skiff
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But other than that, great phone

twilit finch
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Uh..

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Can I post pictures here?

south skiff
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The new ones litterally have screen protectors on the back now

twilit finch
south skiff
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@keen bloom it muffles the mid range frequencies, I'd rather have better audio quality

twilit finch
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It's funny now because now my whole family wants cases xD

outer pivot
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@keen bloom rn I've got some Kraken Pro's V1 from like ~4 years ago and the cups are kinda borked and I'm deciding between fixing them or moving on to new preferably non razer headphones...??

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for razer yeah

twilit finch
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Did you get the pics? @keen bloom

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I like how the bridging made the lines look really shiny

south skiff
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I'm a serious audiophile, I listen to only flac, make sure my phones and computers have a separate audio dacs and soundcards

twilit finch
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Oh wow @south skiff

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<.> Im sure no audiophile

south skiff
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Used to have an axon 7 before switching over to this on a carrier deal. I miss the sound on it so bad it was amazing

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The axon 7 was one of the best audio phones on the market

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Also when it came out, it was one of the first to integrate Dolby atmos

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And it actually made a difference too because of the sperate dac

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Instead of just changing sound profiles

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@keen bloom if you ever get a chance to to your local tech store and check out the Sony 1000 mx3s. If you want ANC these will change your life

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*sony WH 1000 mx3s

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Yes these are around 300 but there is a reason they cost so much. If you are in the US or lower Canada, Best buy always has them on display if you want to try them out

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I had someone scream right next to me and I couldn't hear it

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F

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Ouch I'm so aorry

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Maybe sell a kangaroo pelt I heard that can get money if wrapped in silk from your tree-sized spidersGWjianGodLUL

lapis pasture
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so uh, this must've been the most stressful WAN show in a long time huh (?)

south skiff
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I'm sorry let me make it easier for you to read lmfao: sɹǝpıds pǝzıs-ǝǝɹʇ ɹnoʎ ɯoɹɟ ʞlıs uı pǝddɐɹʍ ɟı ʎǝuoɯ ʇǝɓ uɐɔ ʇɐɥʇ pɹɐǝɥ I ʇlǝd ooɹɐɓuɐʞ ɐ llǝs ǝqʎɐW

twilit finch
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@south skiff I dont speak upside down

south skiff
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It's ok he does

twilit finch
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@south skiff I DID IT

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I read it upside down 😄

south skiff
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He's from 𝓐𝓤𝓢𝓣𝓡𝓐𝓛𝓘𝓐

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That was my last poor attempt at comedy I'm sorry

lapis pasture
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wait holy shit they managed to get Shroud to help out on the refresh rate testing PogChomp

south skiff
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@lapis pasture wym

outer pivot
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okay, so. I've looked online and I've found some ear cushions to replace my broken ones. There is a vendor on amazon that has them but there is also a cheaper one on Ali Express. I've never used Ali Express. Should I just go for the safer amazon option?

lapis pasture
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I think that should be timestamped to the right spot

south skiff
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Use Amazon with honey and buy it an an inflated price

twilit finch
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@outer pivot Probably Amazon is better

outer pivot
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yeah eh?

twilit finch
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@outer pivot I just recently started using AliExpress, but I only buy parts for my 3D printer >.>

outer pivot
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nice

twilit finch
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And so far, the only thing I brought was a new hotend from TriangleLabs

south skiff
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Be careful, the more you look at it though the more Amazon will increase the price. Be sure to delete all cookies and browse in private mode before buying

outer pivot
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What time frame did the shiping have. Im in canda btw

twilit finch
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TriangleLabs is one of the better vendors for buying cloned parts

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@outer pivot I still haven't gotten the part yet.. I ordered back in 9/27

outer pivot
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

twilit finch
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It did say between the 9th and the 17th in October

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So expect at least 3 or 4 weeks >.>

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And that depends on what shipping method you use

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There's a part I want to get from BiQu, but that'll get here until December >.<

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But they do have it on Amazon >.>

outer pivot
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yeah

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okay thanks

twilit finch
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Im wondering if my package got lost.. it still says its in China >.>

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Makes me worry Dx

lapis pasture
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Now that depends: did you show any support for HK in the last few months? If so, who knows what kind of "accident" happened to your package? GWchadMEGATHINK

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I mean uh what?

twilit finch
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I haven't said anything about it.. mainly been sick >.<

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But I wouldn't think they worry over one little package lol

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Though it could be Trump causing issues..

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Especially with this trade war nonsense

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Oh..

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<.> Hopefully it's still moving

topaz spade
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Pixel 4 Eyes

drifting creek
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Todays wan show, especially part 1 had so much going in the background. Felt like a newsroom than just commentary

peak coral
keen bloom
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cause theres no www. accepted on the end server

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@peak coral

peak coral
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ohh

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yep that fixed it, thank you

keen bloom
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given the error, it likely is a config mistake, they need to review their conf files to resolve that so it accepts www. properly but the non www. works fine

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i had just finished watching the latest wan show, as usual... a lot of the chat don't understand things .... but it was fun and entertaining to watch

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that steam local multiplayer to online stuff sounds great

drifting creek
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They see a heading and start frothing at the mouth

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Im interested in neg latency. Especially for competative fps.

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That might either be incredibly stupid or game breakingly good

keen bloom
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well there won't be any competitive (pro/esports) fps done on stadia, probably have ranked stuff like OW ranked but still not many people will actually play it i think if theres an alternative

drifting creek
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As in pvp.

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Competative markov chains.

keen bloom
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and yea people don't listen, a lot of people have already cemented their opinion and won't change it no matter what.

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you can say whatever, show someone video evidence, show someone something in real life, categorical proof of something, and they won't believe it

drifting creek
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“Im right, they’re weong. Now tell me if you’re on my side or not so i can tell everyone else that you agree with me with a 2 second looping tiktok/boomerange and I get 30k likes on my social media platform of choice”

keen bloom
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there is also a significant amount of people who will just say things to annoy you/deliberately pretend to misunderstand/or take the opposite side of an argument of whatever one you're making

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that last bit - is very common now

drifting creek
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There was a wan show a few weeks back where linus talked about his political nautrality views. And was just waiting for someone to clip it and take it out of cntext.

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Theres enough high def linus footage out there now that someone could easily deepfake him.

keen bloom
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i.e. someone says they like X (and everyone liked X all their life) suddenly people in the OTHER GROUP will say they hate X and give silly reasons why which could be easily debunked, including reasons that that group said were bad before the first group said they like X

drifting creek
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I wouldnt be suprised if linus face was being spread in some non english speaking country making a very offensive statement

keen bloom
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probably but every person who puts themselves out there has that problem

drifting creek
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But yeah, as for wan show, superchats were nuts. Linus on wan show typically is his view as a ceo of an influencer company.

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Politics trolling is such a low hanging fruit its a potato.

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Say 1 or 2 names. Instantly derail a conversation.

keen bloom
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theres a lot of people I follow, and some I've seen posts about them with some wall of text with pictures and very clipped video of them which appear to support the text's argument about why "guy is bad cause" but the guy is being taken completely out of context and the post is a complete fabrication

peak coral
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wonder why they took off so fast, where are they going

drifting creek
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It wouldnt suprise me if trump instantly triggers a notification for most mods, simply because of how incendiary it becomes.

keen bloom
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yea its a shame for people who like to enjoy a shit storm but I would also have done the same thing, took it down, wiped the chat

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even though i like to enjoy watching funny things happen

drifting creek
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Brandolini’s law.
Bullshir assymetry principle

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit

Bullshit (also bullcrap) is a common English expletive which may be shortened to the euphemism bull or the initialism B.S. In British English, "bollocks" is a comparable expletive. It is mostly a slang term and a profanity which means "nonsense", especially as a rebuke in res...

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Also twitter is cancer.

keen bloom
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yea

drifting creek
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Wannshow part 1 24:00

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I never want to be famous online for that reason, even if i saved like 59 puppies from a housefire.

keen bloom
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not to get political because of obvious reasons, but twitter certain groups of people who have big influence over things, are all in a bubble, all following each other, all reading the same opinions and then they think that those opinions (of a extremely small % of people) are actually what everyone thinks and believe

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well i keep a lot of my stuff anonymous - discord for instance - this name and av were random

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email as well

drifting creek
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Anyway, blizz fucked up in their response. They could have said “this is an esport, not your personal platform” should have let him keep the winnings, but threathen severe penalties.

keen bloom
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name was generated cause i dont link anything from discord to anything else i do online

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i keep my nicknames unique in most places unless i dont mind whatever it is being linked to me irl

drifting creek
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My name is generic af.
Try to @ me.

keen bloom
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two users with the same name i see

drifting creek
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Was 4 at some point. I like handles. People who post under their real name are just begging for trouble, unless they want to make a carreer out of it.

keen bloom
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i think i searched for this nickname before i chose it and it wasn't really being used by anyone, but sometimes I pick generic names that are common on purpose so its hard to even find "me", and even then, it wouldn't be possible to link "me" to other sites cause I wouldn't use the same name on another site

drifting creek
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Plus its cancel culture now. Look at James Gunn. Posted something in 2012 during an era where any attention and edgy was good, stated a political opinion 2018? Then got kicked from makingnguardians of the galaxy 3 for a while cause of twitter outrage.

keen bloom
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yes exactly

drifting creek
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People need to stop considering twitter as a barometer of public opinion considering how damn easy it is to manipulate it.

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2009 i think, i laughed at twitter, was like “its just corporations trying to enter the social media world. Basically good for support and engagement and thats it”

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Now we have major opinions and decisions based on manipulating seo?

keen bloom
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goes back to what I was saying with twitter, people/brands/PR companies all think twitter opinions and views are the views of everyone, the loud minority of people on there who have been influence on the platform and have other friends with the same opinions in high places can get things done

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however those opinions are as i said, from a loud minority of people

drifting creek
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There are some companies that I dont shop at, admittidly, but it depends on say a specific person invovked in its business, vs the stance of the company as a whole.

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Too easy to manipulate seo, bots, and the public outrage machine tofocus attention in a market and let outrage amplify it.

keen bloom
#

the reason you see brands/ companies doing things that are extremely stupid and bad, are because over hte last 6 or so years, PR companies have been saying "these views are what the public think, if you do stuff that aligns with those views you will get $$$", and it sure has worked, but that doesnt last long and isnt as profitable compared to taking the opposite stance of what the hive mind of twitter takes

drifting creek
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Yes, its stupid. Influencers and “companies with a lifestyle choice”

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People want to feel their material purchases have an amplified effect on the world, despite that most people just chase the lowest price on amazon.

keen bloom
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and i know from personal, IRL experience this is the case, having to push PR companies away and successfully argue the opposite is quite simple, because you can just go out on the street, asking your actual potential customers for opinions, look at good polling companies for opinions and you will see the truth

drifting creek
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That 10% of engagement in taking a stand on... something... to differenciate yourself in this influencer world aint worth it.

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We are Bespoke cookie company and we thing that chocolate chips ofer 0.5g is morally wrong.

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Twitter and social media metrics are far easier to read than going on the street and taking polls.

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Hell, i think its canon that made this carabiner camera. Despite having access to millions in r&d, ability to reach out to companies and focus groups. They started a kickstarter.

keen bloom
#

it's like how if say, a company takes a stance on something and the entire community of that company, say a game and game dev, utterly hate the stace and complain and complain, yet twitter people love it, or a certain forum of people who usually love "cancelling game devs" love the stace, and they say "I was going to buy your game now I will". Well they can then see the stats of purchases after the stance, and in all cases, it is a bad move because all you have done is annoy the people who actually use your product and people who may have bought your product won't now. The people who like the stance made, don't buy things usually

drifting creek
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The problem its its stupidly easy to manipulate said poll. Whos to say said project engineers didnt self fund it to give the impression to higher ups to push the product.

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Speaking of. The dumbest thing ever. Steam having to create tools to counter review bombing.

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Say one employee from your group makes a political tweet. Goes viral. People hate it. Then they dive into his employment history.

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Finds out you work for one company, sees that company has a list of games. Completely reviewbombs the hell out of it by association.

keen bloom
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yea things like reviews and comment sections, are the "last bastion" of what the people have, and thats why certain places don't allow comments because they always will get dumped on, but these people just double down because of things like twitter where they think they are correct, they think they are right in what the majority of people believe, but they are wrong

drifting creek
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Either the company panics, and fires the guy satisfying the griefers, the company goes under satisfying the griefers, the bombing itself becomes newsworthy satisfying the griefers, or nothing happens and they find another way to make this guy miserable.

keen bloom
#

if everyone took a stand to ignore the type of culture the loud minority pushes at once, it would put a stop to it once and for all

drifting creek
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“My shitty comments had a real nagative effect on the world!”

keen bloom
#

and we are seeing more and more companies do this

drifting creek
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Bullshit assemetry princible and a race to first like and comment.

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And yeah, companies feeling like they need to engage in something deeper than just providing a good or service and needing to create a “moral imperative”. Like say making the internal shipping materials of ssds out of recyclable cardboard instead of think non recycleble plastic, cause that can be a political issue, instead of jist an ethical one.

keen bloom
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things are changing, this is why you see the actual majority of people calling out things the loud minority of people (twitter types and their opinions) now, people have been and still are to scared to talk about things publically because the loud minority do the cancel culture stuff, sure both sides do it but one side specifically does it way more and is known for it. either way I am glad to be seeing changes to the more logical, correct, fact based things rather than virtue points and BS like that. its a slow change because theres been many years of attacks and one side basically controls everything but the general population doesnt agree with it, and the population is starting to talk, but the people in control don't like that thatys why you see news sites without comment sections and stuff like removing dislikes/etc... they will keep trying to surpress the majority opinion until it is too late

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anyway i gotta go good talking

drifting creek
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See ya. Good talk

wise current
#

why was the drink bottle censored in part1?

drowsy fable
#

Apparently he showed the Pixel 4 on stream during that segment which is why it was blured

tiny sleet
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oo pixel 4

steep hedge
#

oh is that an NDA thing

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if anything showing off the pixel 4 as a sneak peak would be ok as far as I see it

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as long as they dont do like, a full review on an NDA or something dumb

elder lintel
#

It almost definitely violates the NDA they signed

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There’s a reason no reviewers ever post pictures of phones they get early

potent rapids
#

At least most of phones looks the same now

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Or at least similar

drifting creek
#

That, or its a very accurate depiction of what Linus keeps in his pants linusCreep

drifting creek
tiny sleet
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mhhm

icy lodge
#

You know what would be awesome? If somebody managed to make a searchable transcript of the WAN show so people could search for certain things. The WAN show archive is there, but it would take weeks to search though it to find things.

outer pivot
#

bro

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does google have like a speach to text thing for public use that's anygood?

random trout
#

Um, I mean, Android has had speech to text built into the Google keyboard for a while now.

outer pivot
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yeahhhhh, but that's not really an api

livid ravine
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WAN trascript-- like this? or what.. I mean this is just a primitive way to implement them

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@icy lodge

icy lodge
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Yeah... Where did you pull that from?

livid ravine
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I can do them all

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I just wrote a scirp to extract it

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It can be editted like BOLDINg the times, etc...

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labelling each WAN and such

icy lodge
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Wow that's awesome

livid ravine
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Your you thinking about just wanting to do eveyr WAN show in it's entirety, than posting it to the FORUM or possibly here

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It won't take but 20 minutes

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html files are tiny

icy lodge
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ideally yeah. I know there was some things mentioned in some of the earlier WAN shows that I would like to reference on occasion, but I never have the time to dig through and find stuff. If you would do that it would be freaking awesome. HTML files are pretty small especially when it's just text.

livid ravine
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yeah and you dont even need internet acess to see them as well

icy lodge
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I never knew there was even any way to pull some titles from YouTube

livid ravine
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yeah I would indexed them in the sense on WAN #1 - now so they'd all be in order and can even put youttube links to though who want to watch the videos as well

icy lodge
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What might be a good idea is to highlight each line of text with a hyperlink that would take you to the exact video and time stamp where it was said.

livid ravine
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yeah that would be easy to automate in my script

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its like when you see the URL of the youtube and it has a /333S or whateber so it starts a 333s it'll just be built into those time frames as a hyperlink

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and the initial video link starting at 0s will just be the main title etc...

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shouldn't take too long to implement but I gotta eat dinner and I'll keep ya updated here in the meantime

icy lodge
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Yeah exactly, I figured with the way YouTube handles it and since you output it in HTML anyway it would be pretty easy.

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Have a nice dinner. I actually have to do some studying for college midterms right now myself.

livid ravine
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well good luck Mate, i'll keep in touch

keen whale
#

"pls linus don't talk about hong kong" - twitch chat

wind fjord
#

O

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I'm looking forward to some words about the new Google products

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I wonder if Luke thinks the modem/router - Google assistant fusion is a good idea

tight mauve
#

wan not live yet?

plain wigeon
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Negatory

subtle pond
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They should be soon, the title has been changed in the last 10 or 15 minutes

wind fjord
#

Hdjxjhsjsns I hope it comes on soon

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I do like some sleep sooner rather than later but also wanna see this live/watch the reactions to it live

keen bloom
#

Live wan show 19-10-2019 what happend

wind fjord
#

Bxjsjdndn uuuugh

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When wan

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35 minutes too late

#

Oh on YouTube it's online for me
But on twitch isn't

keen bloom
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Always late

wind fjord
#

Just me?

plain wigeon
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Yeah. Luke has apparently been sitting there waiting for 30 minutes.

wind fjord
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I know they are bro's but if I were him I would lowkey tell Linus he could, idk, prioritize Wan 10% more

keen whale
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I don't see it live on youtube

keen bloom
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Its live on youtube now

hardy ether
#

if it's on youtube it's hidden

keen whale
#

Link?

muted quail
#

watch?v=refg6sdnCd0

keen whale
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ty

hardy ether
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ok, finally see it

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?v=refg6sdnCd0

wind fjord
#

So.. They have a good setup, even backup power and yet Wan often goes.. Wrong.?

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Haha.

keen whale
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considering it's one of their main pieces of content a week i agree i'm surprised they don't seem to care lol

hardy ether
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it's not a money maker

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they say

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so if it dies... it dies

wind fjord
#

Wan show you mean?

hardy ether
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yah

keen whale
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it may not drive revenue directly but like, it keeps me engaged and stuff

wind fjord
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I guess it doesn't make money no.. Yet I keep tuning in more than theire yt videos lately

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Sometimes I watch ltt more for ltt than for tech. And wan show is literally Lin and Luk joking round

subtle pond
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RIP Twitch & Floatplane

rain barn
#

Have they said why its not live on twitch?

wind fjord
#

Linus hit a wrong button

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He apologized but he didn't look very sorry

hardy ether
#

he's a whopping 33 over the hill... I'l just crawl back into my walker

raven sable
#

f

mossy delta
#

no superchats :(

jaunty ether
#

Man, they're on a roll tonight

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No FP or Twitch stream, and no superchats

mossy delta
#

i've asked twice and no one read it..feels bad man

raven sable
fair lynx
#

yeah

#

facepalm

novel parrot
novel parrot
hardy ether
tiny sleet
#

bruh

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that site just downaloded somthing wtf

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mabye im jut triping

elder lintel
#

the best way to spread a virus

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make an article about the virus

tiny sleet
#

bruh epic

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ooof

elder lintel
#

opening the article installs the virus

tiny sleet
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and here i am just trying to learn

#

motherucker

wind fjord
#

Let's go wan show time

#

5 minutes late not early enough?

scenic tree
#

No wan show?

keen bloom
#

idk

north lance
#

Sad face

icy lodge
#

"PIA, we trust them" that straight face line was probably the biggest personal recommendation LMG has ever given

rain jasper
#

Yay, now up on YouTube

dusky path
#

Guys have a quick doubt.

Came to youtube (5 hours after live stream in youtube) for my weekly fix of WAN show. And sure enough youtube decides not to place it on my feed.

I went to the LTT ytube page and still the video was missing (Pic). But searching for the video and got it from search results ez 🤔

The video poped up in my feed and ltt channel now(6 hours after stream). Is this a weird quirk for delay in streamed videos? Or how do i reach these uploads 🤔

subtle pond
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that just means the video is set as unlisted, but as long as you have the link to it you can watch it

dusky path
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ohh, so if it is unlisted then i can search it but it isnt in the channel?

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😂 weird

subtle pond
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or, maybe youtube is being weird -- didnt see the bit about you searching it

icy lodge
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You guys do know that you can watch the archive on twitch as well before it processes on YouTube right?

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Also is razor comms even a thing anymore?

errant orbit
#

16:40

vapid chasm
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56:39

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36:45

steep hedge
#

skylake prices getting slashed in half

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yessss now I can upgrade from this old i3

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well maybe

ashen mango
#

someone caption something hilarious on this one

final canopy
#

Fly in the eye

Sorry

rich peak
#

@steep hedge you could always get stuff used!

steep hedge
#

yeah thats true, but I'd think that even in the used market this is good news to buyers

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I currently have a 1070ti which is bottlenecked by the i3, had a totally different cpu than I thought I had

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was pretty annoyed when I found out I had a dual core, it's about as strong as my previous computers quad

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I didn't build this rig, but I was always team red

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huge shame

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cause i can't upgrade to sweet amd's now without making a whole new system

rich peak
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You could find some solid bundles on HardwareSwap, and sell your stuff to help account for that

steep hedge
#

what i'd really like to do is get into thread rippers

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I had one mid-build but defective parts and newegg didnt have any more of the cpu's available and just shipped me back the board

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was a huge hassle

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ended up getting it all dealt with in the end but i'm left with an am4 noctua cooler and a bunch of ramsticks I don't have a use for

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real shame too cause I had a killer deal on the thread ripper

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but it was doa

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er sorry not am4

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str4

rich peak
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Oh dang

steep hedge
#

also can I just say I absolutely hate how cpu's are these day

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I miss the pins

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having the pins on the board is horrible

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being able to just gently wiggle in the cpu was stupid easy

rich peak
#

I mean, AMD still uses PGA for AM4 CPUs

steep hedge
#

b-but thread ripper

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idk maybe I could rig a pga server chip or something

rich peak
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Lol what are you using it for?

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Why Threadripper and not 3rd Gen Ryzen or something

keen bloom
#

@ashen mango "when your Forrest Whittaker eye is caused by nVidia"

ashen mango
#

i like how luke is squinting as he doesn't believe him

tall agate
#

What do you think of the new airpods

rough pebble
keen bloom
keen bloom
#

WAN Show starting when?

wide harbor
outer pivot
#

are you sure about that?

keen bloom
#

how do they find news sources and what happend during the week

#

?

rich peak
#

The forums, as well as staff generally browsing tech news

icy lodge
#

Anybody know where the wan show is at?

drifting creek
#

Is there an audio only version of wan show that i can listen screen off on android?

amber iron
#

YouTube vanced

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Works with the screen on and off

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And it's free 🙂

slate bone
#

they have it on soundcloud but the speed is infrequent

amber iron
#

Quick qn...
What time did wan start today?🤔

slate bone
#

on uploads

amber iron
#

Vanced
YouTube vanced
.apk through browser not on playstore

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I don't wanna be redundant

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Can I get an answer?

fast atlas
#

herrow

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@amber iron I though 7pm est but I could be completely wrong

lapis pasture
#

linus be like "hey want to see my P score?" 😏

fast atlas
#

r u watching it?

amber iron
#

Well too late.

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Guess the rerun.

fast atlas
#

yup :)

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its all the same tho really

#

as long as its not weeks late it makes no difference

lapis pasture
#

and yeah I also like having wan show playing in background while doing other stuff on my own time

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even if it means watching the vod a bit late

fast atlas
#

yeah and its a win win for them because although there is no YouTube adds, I cant double tap skip the other sponsors like on youtube

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or a win for someone, idk if its based on purchases or views

terse night
#

so are they actually going to have a blade runner watch party?

dreamy vale
#

So what happend to WAN show?

#

Abrubt stop...

terse night
#

Linus was trying to finish with the superchats

#

#happyaccident?

rancid barn
#

Did they screw up with the MOS Sponsor spot? the link takes me to a kickstarter that looks like it ended 2+ years ago

keen bloom
#

Speaking of backpacks, I hope LMG can create one that can haul a laptop, mini ITX/monitor or other tech goodies

rich peak
#

^

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I feel like that'd take quite a lot of r&d and would be monumentally expensive tho lol

buoyant tide
#

And sort of niche market.

keen bloom
#

Like the merch we all buy from LMG

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Rucksacks are the closest we have to that, but something dedicated, like that MOS pack?

dire sinew
#

its 23:25, 2,5 more hours before wan show 😧

outer pivot
#

its 19:57, 0,5 hours until the wan show

dire sinew
#

no

outer pivot
#

why not?

dire sinew
#

16:59 pt

outer pivot
#

now it is

dire sinew
#

)_>

outer pivot
#

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

dire sinew
#

the usual delay

#

forgot

outer pivot
#

it's understandable

#

sins have been forgiven

topaz spade
#

Rip stream

lapis pasture
#

china stepped in and censored the stream linusKappa

keen bloom
#

stream ded

glad gull
#

welp

topaz spade
#

I wholeheartedly agree with the Chinese gvmnt.

keen bloom
#

and scene

nova summit
#

is it just here or did the yt stream die?

raven sable
#

F

topaz spade
#

It died

glad gull
#

both streams died

keen bloom
#

Twitch stream died for me

topaz spade
#

Pog

nova summit
#

oh, this sux x)

celest root
#

YouTube stream dead. I guess somebody pulled the plug on them

hybrid pilot
#

lol everyone's saying China censored them

junior hull
#

Lol 2nd time China took down the stream

subtle pond
#

YT dead as well

lapis pasture
#

see, china knew linus was going to start speaking counter points that oppose china's ideas so they decided to censor the stream while linus was still saying "I wholeheartedly agree with the chinese government"

topaz spade
#

This is like the third time in the last few wan shows its happened lol

#

Conspiracy??

celest root
#

BUM BUM BUM

nova summit
#

good thing it wasnt just here

junior hull
#

This is at least the second time it happens while talking about China

topaz spade
#

Maybe not enough Nvidia gpu boxes in the background

hybrid pilot
#

China got the clout

topaz spade
#

@junior hull true

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I thought I was becoming a madman and was the only one who noticed lmfao

nova summit
#

prolly china pulling the plug because they agree but dont want the convo to continue incase it changes direction 🤣

keen bloom
#

but they're in Canada tho, lol

hybrid pilot
#

lol tell that to the NBA

topaz spade
#

Got too political lol

nova summit
#

borders never stopped china before🤣

lapis pasture
#

they're in vancouver though- it might as well be china

upbeat void
#

Canada didn't like the fact that Linus agreed with the Chinese govt

swift saddle
#

ok gamers what happened to my stream

subtle pond
#

too bad colton isnt signed in atm, and i doubt luke has his discord up

final plaza
#

blizzard did it

topaz spade
#

Back up the

junior hull
#

ITS BACK

swift saddle
#

did the chinamans strike?

topaz spade
#

Just got notif

nova summit
#

back here

celest root
#

A min or two after I joined the first WanShow live stream I decided to watch ... it goes down. This feels kinda expected.

topaz spade
#

Bruh moment

#

It froze again

junior hull
#

I for one, welcome our Chinese overlords

celest root
#

I, for one, don't.

nova summit
#

^

hybrid pilot
#

they're back on

celest root
#

I like my YouTube!

topaz spade
#

Nah they went off again lol

junior hull
#

I’m just saying it so I don’t get “disappeared”

glad gull
#

damn

junior hull
#

It’s working for me

glad gull
#

there seems to be trouble

nova summit
#

working here

junior hull
#

It’s up on YT

topaz spade
#

@junior hull suicide via 2 gunshots to the back of the head, as per the norm

celest root
#

YouTube is no longer counting as live.

nova summit
#

mine is on samsung tv

#

live

junior hull
#

I’m watching on roku

celest root
#

It's back on YouTube, I had to change the URL

nova summit
#

ppl here seems nice, think i might have to be more active in this server

swift saddle
#

luke toxic gamer OMEGALUL

subtle pond
#

YT quality seems to have briefly took a crap -- i briefly dropped down to 360p

hazy sinew
#

Probably just your internet

cloud walrus
#

is wan show down for everyone else?

subtle pond
#

no

swift saddle
#

it is back up rn

subtle pond
#

if your on YT you need to change to the new url

hazy sinew
#

Yeah it's back up

cloud walrus
#

i see, its working

#

thanks @subtle pond

subtle pond
#

np

lapis pasture
#

lolololol

frosty owl
#

rip wan show twitch

#

its still down there

subtle pond
#

i never got a notification from twitch tbh

#

and LTT is one of the few twitch channels i actually keep its notifications enabled

livid dawn
#

Soo.. there is first 25 min of wan show as unlisted video on YouTube ? What's that all about ?

lapis pasture
#

they took er jerbs

celest root
#

The video had went down for a few moments, so I'm guessing that's why it's split like that

peak relic
#

Anyone have a link to the second half, Looks like they have gone unlisted?

ivory fable
#

where is it

subtle pond
vague lintel
#

Why did linus edit it to be 2 mins shorter?

terse night
#

so apparently all the Gamer's Nexus stuff on the WAN show was because of this (and probably a bit more elsewhere?)

livid dawn
#

Did you know armrests are just chairs for your arms ?

weary locust
#

why would you say something so controversial yet so brave?

proven torrent
#

I feel real bad for people who genuinely think China would shut down a rando youtube channel's internet because they mentioned the topic

prisma trench
#

🤷 considering they block the whole youtube it seems non issue

pastel berry
#

where that wanshow at?

vale crag
#

ikr its late

plain wigeon
#

That's pretty standard...

vale crag
#

yeah but 30 minutes... tahts really late

tropic spire
#

I was gonna say^^

plain wigeon
#

I'm pretty sure they've done worse, but pushing 40 is up there

vale crag
#

yep

pastel berry
#

when you realize that because of daylight savings its actually 5:37 there

vale crag
#

ooof

plain wigeon
#

ooof

tropic spire
#

Noooooooo

#

Now I’m upset lol

pastel berry
#

😆

#

i was like wtf is goin on

plain wigeon
#

No, they’re supposed to start at 5 PST, I’m pretty sure they’re just really late

#

They're on!

golden berry
#

no feed

plain wigeon
#

On Floatplane and twitch, not seeing it on YT though

golden berry
#

whats the twitch link

plain wigeon
golden berry
#

ah i had tips at the end

plain wigeon
#

👍

pastel berry
#

did anyone else just see lukes shirt just change like 7 times?

#

am i trippin balls?

dusty basalt
#

yeah, and it jumped to james at one point

pastel berry
#

oh okay

#

i thought i was going insane

dusty basalt
#

glitching like crazy aswell

plain wigeon
#

I'm not seeing any issues...

#

But twitch chat is going crazy

twilit finch
#

?

plain wigeon
#

About no YT stream

twilit finch
#

LOL

#

It was unlisted!

plain wigeon
#

They're going to set it now 😆

twilit finch
#

Bruh

plain wigeon
#

FP steam is super glitchy and looks like Twitch may be as well

analog matrix
#

Clean af for me on both

mighty anvil
#

twitch steam is a-ok for me, no lag or anything

twilit finch
#

Staying on the twitch stream

vale crag
#

YT stream seems fine for me

plain wigeon
#

@analog matrix I kept having the stream jump between live and an older stream on FP

#

Twitch looks good

pastel berry
#

when hes gotta go to see his kids

#

wheres the linus cut out

#

Is linus now a broom?

keen bloom
#

yes

#

Broom Linus, with phone quality voice.

upbeat void
#

Linus got swept off his feet tonight...

keen bloom
#

oh god the puns

pastel berry
#

in b4 lmg gets raided by the gov

#

for exposing their buried fibre lines

buoyant tide
#

It's fine, they'll arrest Broom Linus.

upbeat void
#

He's already practicing his 5th amendment right.

keen bloom
#

luke tired of holding up linus i see.lol

marsh plover
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I love this show, but they are literally phoning it in now...lol

pastel berry
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When can i phone in?

brisk fog
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I didn't get the notification

marsh plover
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Call 800 wan show lol

keen bloom
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Did they talk about the whole floatplane drama regarding scrapyard wars being posted on YouTube and floatplane at the same time just because of all the negative comments the video was getting on floatplane

pastel berry
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ight callin rn

marsh plover
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Not sure. I hope they talk about it

keen bloom
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They've gotta address it

marsh plover
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I wonder if ltt looses money on the users that watch floatplane and not YouTube. So by launching the episodes on both, they don't loose all that revenue. I mean I pay for floatplane but not much... Even if they make enough money on floatplane, the analytics might hurt their channel.

pastel berry
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linus sandal tips

keen bloom
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Yeah but the only issue I have with floatplane is the bts stuff is no longer floatplane exclusive it's now put on YouTube stories

marsh plover
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Maybe less editing is needed...

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But I agree

keen bloom
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Yeah but bts before used to just be linus going around ltt with his phone talking about everything

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Just wondering, do they run a compressor on their mic?

marsh plover
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Flattens the sound signal. Much better for audio only listeners. Not sure if they still upload for podcasts.

keen bloom
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absolutely. it boosts the lows and controls the peaks

marsh plover
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@keen bloom agreed. Solid point

keen bloom
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@keen bloom yeah linus made a video a while back about the wan show setup

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oh nice

marsh plover
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@keen bloom sorry I miss read your message. Yes they do use one.... I thought you asked if they use a compressor...

keen bloom
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yeah; sound compressor

honest stirrup
sacred sigil
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Broom linus wasn't really that' bad. Have you guys considered making it a regular thing to get someone random in the tech sphere to join you guys on a call for the wan show?

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you could even rig up an official cell phone podium for it

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get a stand or something so you can show a picture or a stick figure on the screen lmao

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or at least get linus on there if he's out and about

vapid chasm
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@sacred sigil they've had a few guests via video chat in the past. They position their video feed between the two hosts. Can't think of any they've done in the last year or so tho.

glacial jacinth
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I was suprised at Linus's comment about device form factors

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IMO phones are now too big to fit comfortably in my pocket or one hand

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Yet apps and content is increasingly designed for a 6" screen

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I'd love to see foldable devices that unfold to "regular" size.

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However I do think that Motorola really putting an older generation mid tier cpu in is pretty crap of them

keen bloom
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I'd like to see a RAZR type phone, or Nokia type slide phone with a split screen

icy lodge
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Remember how a long time ago they were saying that one idea for the name of the WAN show was weekly news analysis and gaming. If only they did that then today it would have been the Awesome Hard WANG show

glacial jacinth
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woah. TIL the RAZR phone is eSIM only

keen bloom
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Coppa talks

limpid kiln
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just wondering, is wan show anytime soon?

amber iron
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Between 15 to 40 minutes after now

limpid kiln
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Neat, thank you

full pumice
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Where is wan?

limpid kiln
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yt

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its on

buoyant tide
limpid kiln
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where's his mouth

boreal badge
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rip madison's stream

outer storm
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ikr

daring cliff
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What's Madison's username?

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Nvm, found it. suop

void trout
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@daring cliff what’s the link?

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@boreal badge what’s the link legit my we were talking about her at work and how this is what the world has come to

daring cliff
glacial jacinth
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(watching the wan show now): great to hear you face the PIA buyout face on

unborn flame
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"suop hasn't saved any streams to their channel yet." feelsbadman

keen bloom
wind fjord
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Ooooo

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Looking forward

open moat
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I'm so confused

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Theres 8K

keen bloom
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8k yule log? I saw that on the last one, and i'm wondering - who has the hardware to watch that?

manic fog
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😦

random trout
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Proly because the bot that used to post there isn't online anymore.

polar viper
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Does any one knows which Camping Knives channel Luke was talking about on last wan show? The channel that reviewed linus's ladybug

kind mango
wind fjord
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😝

outer marlin
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MrBeast was just about the Donate to the Black Friday Stream... but they had to End it... :/

tight mauve
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^?

hazy granite
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sup

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so, shall we bet on WAN start time?

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I say 17.35 pacific time

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crap, it's starting lol

plain wigeon
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Now

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I win!

keen bloom
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Ok WAN Show

tight mauve
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ok wan show

modest pelican
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Linus did a booboo

tight mauve
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no, new youtube control panel is garbage, he showed it at the beginning of stream

modest pelican
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Yea ik, I saw it the last one too

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But they have the black friday picture for the stream too xD

tight mauve
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LOL

modest pelican
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And the smart toilet thing is set as a future stream

tight mauve
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thats probably youtube

modest pelican
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Linus did a booboo

tight mauve
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at least its working on youtube, and i don't have to go to twitch

modest pelican
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True

tight mauve
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twitch is my back up when youtube just is like wan show, eh, who cares

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ltt is the only reason i have a twitch account lol

kind nacelle
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wait they are live?

outer pivot
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nope

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just finished

sacred sigil
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the wan show youtube icon is amazing

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for the archived vid

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today

floral kelp
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wouldn't it be amazing if the wan show could be livestreamed as a live podcast

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that would be amazing

rich peak
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I mean, they at least archive it to SoundCloud

faint trellis
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keen bloom
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I totally missed this WAN show. I was at memex buying parts

onyx pond
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whats memex

rich peak
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Memory Express

hardy sequoia
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when does the wan show happen

sly leaf
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Ok WAN Show

buoyant tide
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You have to say "Ok WAN show" to activate it now. linusKappa

white tree
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As far as the smart toilet goes, Wouldn't it be illegal for them to collect your data and sell it? In the U.S. at least because of HIPAA laws?

steep hedge
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I did always think the smart pipe was a cool concept though

dim epoch
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were do i get one

median helm
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no one will know

sacred cove
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am i right in thinking its the Wan show tonight?

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shoutout from spain 😄

wind fjord
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Ye

crimson tusk
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Ok wan show

sacred cove
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what time GMT+1 does it start?

outer rampart
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It’s 25 minutes over now

dark granite
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Maybe linus forgot to take the stream public 😂

uncut pollen
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lol

dark granite
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Do Floatplane users get a link

drowsy trellis
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He would never do that....

outer rampart
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Lmao

full stratus
sacred cove
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not live on youtube?

raven sable
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There's 2k people waiting before stream on youtube

full stratus
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up on floatplane and twitch

sacred cove
dark granite
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How does one get these links

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Thanks

raven sable
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linustech on Twitch 🙃

sacred cove
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yea

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bitching about youtube

raven sable
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Thanks bot for "censoring" me

dark granite
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Live in twitch

sacred cove
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yea youtube is broken lol

dark granite
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*on

halcyon arrow
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what is up with his voice on twitch

raven sable
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Sickness

sacred cove
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love that you can't share the twitch for linustech in the linustech discord

dark granite
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His voice is fried

halcyon arrow
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lol

sacred cove
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he is so sick lol

lament briar
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YouTube stream is Down

sacred cove
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that youtube video description though xD

drowsy trellis
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YouTube gave Linus AIDS

fallow veldt
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yo is linus hella sick lmao

sonic sparrow
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why on earth is the stream suck to the dashboard of youtube

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WUT

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nevermind

fallow veldt
#

lmao linus sounds like a teenager also cuz of it

twilit finch
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Poor linus

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My dude is sick D:

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Hope he gets better

distant hatch
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youtube chat getting a bit out of hand

twilit finch
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What's going on there?

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I went to the Twitch stream

distant hatch
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spam

twilit finch
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Oh yeah

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There's one dude called "WE ARE NOT YOUR KIND" that keeps spamming k

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Kinda find it funny how YouTube hasn't removed them yet

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But removed people on Markiplier's stream 🤔

distant hatch
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ye and there was a dude that kept spamming "im from (insert country here)" with awesome smileys.

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ye a little sus ngl

twilit finch
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What chat is Linus looking at?

subtle pond
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linus usually responds to the YT chat more than twitch

distant hatch
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ahh

twilit finch
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Oh

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The YT chat is going nuts

distant hatch
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im surprised he hasnt noticed the spam

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ye

twilit finch
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Yeah

subtle pond
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i thought there were some chat mods for both Twitch and YT

twilit finch
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Don't seem like any on either

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The YT chat is going nuts

subtle pond
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i guess in the case of Twitch at least is that Nightbot had gotten twitch banned via a DMCA takedown -- was a fake claim, but it messed up its API keys

distant hatch
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bruh i got timed out lmao i havent even spammed lmao

twilit finch
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OOF

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@distant hatch Lol

subtle pond
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@distant hatch that happens to me on halo master chief collection, so i know the feeling -- ill be idle waiting for matchmaking to finish and ill get kicked from the matchmaking queue for being idle

distant hatch
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bruh

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that sucks lol

twilit finch
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Oof

subtle pond
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as for Youtube, the Nightbot moderator seems to be broken

distant hatch
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ye

twilit finch
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Yeah

wooden yarrow
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Showbot > Nightbot

sacred cove
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did he fix the youtube video description thing? (COPY & PASTE)

keen bloom
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xd

hot karma
#

Just watching the vod, Linus mentioned doubts about zero latency vr and well Ive tried it here in Melbourne aus and it was great. I don't have any frame of reference to any other kind of vr headset but the tracking seemed great and aside from one of the backpacks bejng broken (they have spares to replace) in the group it worked well.

sacred sigil
#

reloading your LMG clip
channel

verbal narwhal
verbal plank
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Did they ever start posting it as a podcast within a reasonable timeframe?

uneven bridge
#

ok wan show

meager wasp
wind fjord
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I often listen to the podcast version

languid gyro
#

eny 1 els having troble whit Floatplane ?

wet mango
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Yeah, I am

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login attempted, then redirects back to the login screen

rich peak
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Also having trouble, finally got it to work enough for me to download videos, as streaming them really ain't working

buoyant tide
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The newest one didn't seem to want to start playing, just spinny wheel.

torn rover
#

vega shines in red dead its crazy

keen bloom
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hm

naive brook
#

Yo so ... in reference to Linus's comment on the WAN show MacOS is downloadable from the mac devel site without account creds. So I doubt the non-replacable SSD on the MacPro is meant for stopping hackintosh? The only thing I can see now is like ... we got your data, pay us for it back "legal" ransom kind of way...

astral rock
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i think he means that with these non replaceable hard drives, there will be no reason for apple to allow people to download MacOS and then they will stop allowing people to download MacOS

elder lintel
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Its possible but I find that unlikely

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they do very little to stop hackintosh's

toxic flint
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They've already made changes with Catalina so that the operating system is no longer actually part of the main system volume, even though it appears like it does. So backup utilities like Carbon Copy that clone the entire hard drive no longer work.

elder lintel
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Also you can install macos on the non t2 drive on the mac pro

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the changes to catalina separating OS files from the main system is really cool from a security standpoint

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preventing any apps/viruses from changing important system files

toxic flint
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It does get in the way of people doing things that they're used to doing

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Like being able to lift an entire system and move it to another computer

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This capability is very helpful if you have failing hardware

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I think Linus made that very point in the WAN show.... like, if your hardware dies late at night and you need to be up and running, what options do you have?

elder lintel
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I guess it depends

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if a windows pc dies late at night you can just move the drive to a new computer

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if you install macos on a non t2 drive you can do the same thing

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the point of the t2 drive is to keep your data as secure as possible so if hardware dies you're kinda screwed

toxic flint
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And if you don't want or need that security in your use case, can you turn it off?

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Or is this a case where Uncle Tim knows better than you, the professional, what you need?

elder lintel
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I dont think its necessarily a bad thing to force users into more security

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since most people dont know why it matters

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I think it should be at least possible to disable with some obscure terminal command

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but apple is definitely the company to be, "this is the way things should be so take it or leave it"

toxic flint
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So you're a professional audio engineer running backline gigs at a 15,000 person concert, you've got a couple of Macs up and running so that you can do real-time audio processing.... the machine is disconnected from the Internet .... and the belief is that these people aren't smart enough to understand the security implications? Dude, there's big burly dudes with tats and folded arms stopping randos from coming in and stealing the gear.

elder lintel
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I dont really understand why you cant pair a new drive to the t2 chip with it just nuking the drive in the process. I think that would meet all the same security benefits and be user replaceable

toxic flint
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This isn't a made up use case, I know people who do this sort of thing. None of them have been happy with Apple's product offerings for years as it is.

elder lintel
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Youre conflating software security with physical security, those are entirely unrelated

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Im confused how the ability to quickly clone a drive running mojave vs catalina would be useful if a machine fails during a concert

toxic flint
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I know exactly what the fuck I'm talking about here. We're talking about professionals at work needing to get shit done. Having the operating system actively fight you when you need to handle hardware failure is not helpful

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"Software security" is 100% irrelevant in a disconnected, secured environment

elder lintel
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what is the exact situation where the OS is fighting someone here?

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like if a motherboard fails?

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software cloning of drives isnt possible if you cant boot the machine

toxic flint
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Ohfuckssakes

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You take a backup of the rig.

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You restore it when things go bad.

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Again, i'm giving you an example to work with here -- a touring band. They need precisely the same set up night after night

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You can capture exactly what is needed on day one, byte for byte. If something weird happens, restore from backup. This is normal.

elder lintel
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now youre talking about software failure when you were talking about hardware failure earlier

toxic flint
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Of course, what actually happens in this case is that people bring multiple systems. Everything has a backup.