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Nah, it's just twitch being twitch - the most reliably unreliable streaming service. YouTube is up.
@dusty basalt they probably didnt know the stream was down for a bit and since their server probably back log the video for a bit
so since the internet was cut for a bit
the server has the stream paused
people just need to chill out and LISTEN to them. because they actually support the people YOU are supporting....
and the people controlling the stream is fixing it in the background and wont interrupt them(Linus and Luke)
the stream is dying again
I mean I sort of like the idea of duality as far as ltt goes, a lot of tech is right out of china, but like linus mentioned earlier being a canadian and with how chinas been the last year or more to us....
past blatant trolling no real reason for people to say they're pro-china
haha
jesus that whole blizzard topic deadass set off the bomb in the edgy poltical types. Some in the chat wont shut up about it lmao
not chinese designed tech no
but the manufacturing is still china related
i almost forgot that luke did that. Im glad linus brought it up again lmao
they did some episodes in china in the past
im not sure. I remember it being mentioned on a previous wan show wayy back
yee
I almost sent a superchat saying how Americans in particular get any over China's crap but STILL buy their stuff
Linus has been pro-China, pro-Genocide... and PRO-CHEATING WITH PREDICTIVE AI IN GAMES
😮
I was listening to WAN show while working out and it suddenly cut out
China is facist though
Im pro Hong Kong but I still find it so funny how people can be so hypocritical
true @twilit finch
also, I'm not a moderator or anything, but something tells me we shouldn't get too political here
yeah the labels they put on themselves are accurate with how they run
@distant hatch Especially when it's the same people who support Donald Trump >.>
@distant hatch It still hits me like a block how people can sit down and support this dude.
Now in the beginning, even I kinda liked what he said, but once he started appealing more towards the racists.. he lost me there
I don't like populists in general
i can see that reasons as to why some would support him (mainly the appeal of bringing back jobs), but ye a lot of actions hes taken dont really have good optics
Then it gets me more because they say "Oh the media is lying"
I'm like "WHAT?! HOW?"
"There is footage that this man lies!"
ayy gotta have some hope lol. Nice seeing some fellow yang gang in here
UBI is good my problem with Yang is he wants to do that and keep the current welfare system as well
@keen bloom Right??
DEADASS it lowkey ticks me off cause people really think that food stamps, that limit the type of produce you can buy, is better than just straight cash.
the whole point of UBI is it cuts out the administration costs and inefficiencies of welfare
@distant hatch wow
exactly
Right!
plus maybe people can grow some of their own food and then use the money for something else
I am so glad Im around logical thinking people!
they both like the tim hortons chili
i like to imagine China censored the wan show and that's why it got cut off as soon as linus started talking about hong kong
im pretty sure once it gets implemented many will see that the ubi's benefits will far outweigh those of the current welfare system.
It's that Huawei networking
@keen bloom What is UBI?
universal basic income
Universal Basic Income
I'm for a UBI paid for by a taxation on machine job replacement, slowly getting more substantial as it gets more prevelent
I'll go and look it up so I can get a better understanding of it
I personally believe people know what is best for them much more than the government
So companies either have to hire more people or get taxed on their robots
And people who got replaced can have a safety net that's a little more secure than welfare
@amber stirrup Kinda have to disagree there
Idk man the whole point of a ubi is for job loss. I would tax the bots
Wait nvrmd you said that
Yeah I agree
Central planning has universally failed when tried
yup
@keen bloom Interesting..
It should be an open program too that changes with the times
UBI sounds pretty neat actually
I also don't think UBI should be living wage. It should be enough to survive but still give incentive to find a job
Yeah @south skiff
It should also change based on factors like parental status, amount of kids, veteran benifits
I kind of prefer a negative income tax
And area that is lived in
but the problem with that is I don't trust the government to set the levels right
It's similar to UBI
@amber stirrup that's why it should be done by the states and providences
that's a good idea
Because the federal government is too dumb
I think UBI should be just enough where you aren't basically on the verge of death but just enough to be an incentive to work
well also $1000 in California isn't the same as say North Carolina
I think it should be tested in California with only a small, small amount, using all the extra silicon valley money that's going to waste on headquarters with slides and pools
@south skiff Though you'd have to watch out how each state implements it though
See if it works
Could end up with a really terrible governor like the previous one for Louisiana >.>
@twilit finch the states have always been the testing grounds for new ideas
@south skiff True 🤔
Let them experiment, find the best way
It's socio-economic with other factors not political
Oh yeah ._. @keen bloom
They did test a small ubi program somewhere here in california i believe they gave $500 (dont remember tbh)
Ah
That's like a meal
@keen bloom STONKS
I mean.. I would LOVE to get $500 every year/month >.>
Especially as a college student
Take a state like Connecticut for example, lots of rich people, automation and a ton of homeless. That would be a good place to try it
Yeah
Same with Detroit except they would need federal grants to help with it
@south skiff Louisiana would be a good place too
UBI is great on paper until you realize that scummy landlords are the main dollar draw every month
Maybe, except it's a pretty conservative state and this is a relatively progressive idea I don't think it would go in Louisiana
they raised the minimum wage in ontario 3 dollars in one go and believe it or not rent is over 1000 for a 1 bedroom
it was only 800~ before that
and that was still absurd to me
well yeah that is is what happens when you have way more demand than supply
10 years ago i could get one for 700 and it'd be nice
You can give people more money but it won't fix the supply problem
We also federal tax break incentives to large companies like Amazon and Microsoft to build their building out in the upper rust belt and coal country to replace the dying jobs
social housing is really sketch
Don't forget sweeden they have a working guaranteed housing system
But they are also quite small
As a country
I can do with discussion like this guys ^_^
Why aren't there more discussions like this in the world???
I like Singapore a lot
Either sweeden or Finland. One of the rich Alps countries do it
government rentals at like 250 cad a month that only exist so welfare reps can tell you that you live really frivolously and irresponsibly in the cheapest apt available without government intervention
Because people are too consumed with partisan federalism and it's halting progress
Socialism does not work but we do need reforms on new-deal era programs
Yeah
i'm all for solutions to problems but none of the solutions people offer function in any way shape or form
yeah what Singapore makes sense
I think the biggest issue is that nothing ever works perfectly to the T
they are increasing supply
Like, it never really plans out
Besides the United States has one of the lowest tax rates for a first world country. Fix the wage/hour gap, raise the income tax a bit and fix the programs
what will happen to singapores buildings as they age though too
i dont know much about singapores climate or anything
@steep hedge look at Jersey City subsidised housing and you'll see
but here in canada, we have all sorts of harsh conditions for buildings
like simply being in canada
@keen bloom Yeah
Hello from down in literal hell. Can you give us some of your cold to chill out our constantly angry polititians
Not to be political or anything though
oof yeah NJ is bad
Just ya know. 500 filabusters a year halting progress, preventing any of the things we've talked about
Oh boy <.>
well in that area
@south skiff That and one-sided deals to make money and hold a certain political climate
this is just how i imagine the housing will look in 20 years
500 a year... 500 15+ hour speeches, one being a very slow reading of green eggs and ham
if it takes that long
This is why half the United States is stuck in a cold war mindset, not getting anything done
The filabuster
People own the housing in Singapore so they have incentive to take care of it
that doesn't mean they're capable of it though
and when it comes to an apt building, well
am I the only one thinking that this chat has basically nothing to do with WAN show?
everyone who shits in your pipeline contributes to the flooding of a lower floor
let's talk about WAN show instead then-
what do you guys think is going on behind the scenes with LMG after that emergency shut-down on stream?
@lapis pasture it started from the China discussion and branched out into socio-economic reforms and then Partisan federalism
oh yeah I sure want to talk about china and hong kong instead of something interesting
china beats people with sticks news at 11
Apple sells out Hong Kong protesters with the map function on news at 11
That's real btw
I noticed that the VOD is has a "part 1" tacked onto the end
so is today's WAN show getting a part 2? lol
its already there
@lapis pasture it randomly cut off halfway through
part 2 is up tho
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Part 2
Part 2 just ended
brb guys
They didn't even discuss Apple removing the emoji
hold up
@amber stirrup What emoji?
which emoji?
what emoji?
JINX!
buy me a soda @twilit finch
I blame youtube's broken notifications btw
What about apple deleting apps the protesters were using and then selling their locations to the Chinese government for money
NU
oof
oof
oh my
@amber stirrup Oh wow lol
f
Alright, I have no words for that
Apple has committed treason in my opinion
.> Kinda sounds like Apple supports them at this point
So does the NBA, Nike, blizzard.
hmmm
The UN recognizes Taiwan
ah
Sorry I'm on phone, autocorrect
np
My ram died smh
Stylo 4
OoO
Really nice 300 dollar midrange
Suprise Suprise it has a sylus
6.3 inch screen, no notch, stylus, great audio quality, great battery life
noice
Only problem is the damn backside
@south skiff OOh is it battery replaceable?
Sadly no @twilit finch
@south skiff AWH
Im tempted to go and get a Note 4 and install LineageOS on it
I hate my LG G6 right now -.-
Oh the back on the Stylo is so terrible I can't deal with it
Hey, do any of you have any headphone recommendations for like around $150CAD
And it's sad because I just made this really nice 3d printed case for it
😄
Ya'll want to see my case?
Wanna know why it's 300 dollars? The back side has such a weak plastic that setting it on a table scratched it and my case left impressions
I printed the case in TPU (not sure what brand because I let someone else make the case for me since I didn't have TPU)
But other than that, great phone
The new ones litterally have screen protectors on the back now
@keen bloom it muffles the mid range frequencies, I'd rather have better audio quality
It's funny now because now my whole family wants cases xD
@keen bloom rn I've got some Kraken Pro's V1 from like ~4 years ago and the cups are kinda borked and I'm deciding between fixing them or moving on to new preferably non razer headphones...??
for razer yeah
Did you get the pics? @keen bloom
I like how the bridging made the lines look really shiny
I'm a serious audiophile, I listen to only flac, make sure my phones and computers have a separate audio dacs and soundcards
Used to have an axon 7 before switching over to this on a carrier deal. I miss the sound on it so bad it was amazing
The axon 7 was one of the best audio phones on the market
Also when it came out, it was one of the first to integrate Dolby atmos
And it actually made a difference too because of the sperate dac
Instead of just changing sound profiles
@keen bloom if you ever get a chance to to your local tech store and check out the Sony 1000 mx3s. If you want ANC these will change your life
*sony WH 1000 mx3s
Yes these are around 300 but there is a reason they cost so much. If you are in the US or lower Canada, Best buy always has them on display if you want to try them out
I had someone scream right next to me and I couldn't hear it
F
Ouch I'm so aorry
Maybe sell a kangaroo pelt I heard that can get money if wrapped in silk from your tree-sized spiders
so uh, this must've been the most stressful WAN show in a long time huh (?)
I'm sorry let me make it easier for you to read lmfao: sɹǝpıds pǝzıs-ǝǝɹʇ ɹnoʎ ɯoɹɟ ʞlıs uı pǝddɐɹʍ ɟı ʎǝuoɯ ʇǝɓ uɐɔ ʇɐɥʇ pɹɐǝɥ I ʇlǝd ooɹɐɓuɐʞ ɐ llǝs ǝqʎɐW

@south skiff I dont speak upside down
It's ok he does
wait holy shit they managed to get Shroud to help out on the refresh rate testing 
@lapis pasture wym
okay, so. I've looked online and I've found some ear cushions to replace my broken ones. There is a vendor on amazon that has them but there is also a cheaper one on Ali Express. I've never used Ali Express. Should I just go for the safer amazon option?
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I think that should be timestamped to the right spot
Use Amazon with honey and buy it an an inflated price
@outer pivot Probably Amazon is better
yeah eh?
@outer pivot I just recently started using AliExpress, but I only buy parts for my 3D printer >.>
nice
And so far, the only thing I brought was a new hotend from TriangleLabs
Be careful, the more you look at it though the more Amazon will increase the price. Be sure to delete all cookies and browse in private mode before buying
What time frame did the shiping have. Im in canda btw
TriangleLabs is one of the better vendors for buying cloned parts
@outer pivot I still haven't gotten the part yet.. I ordered back in 9/27
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
It did say between the 9th and the 17th in October
So expect at least 3 or 4 weeks >.>
And that depends on what shipping method you use
There's a part I want to get from BiQu, but that'll get here until December >.<
But they do have it on Amazon >.>
Im wondering if my package got lost.. it still says its in China >.>
Makes me worry Dx
Now that depends: did you show any support for HK in the last few months? If so, who knows what kind of "accident" happened to your package? 
I mean uh what?
I haven't said anything about it.. mainly been sick >.<
But I wouldn't think they worry over one little package lol
Though it could be Trump causing issues..
Especially with this trade war nonsense
Oh..
<.> Hopefully it's still moving
Pixel 4 
Todays wan show, especially part 1 had so much going in the background. Felt like a newsroom than just commentary
https://youtu.be/vC20Ej6E99A
Reminds me of babylon 5
ISN getting stormed from Babylon 5, 3x10 "Severed Dreams"
is anyone having problems with the sponsor link from the wan show ?
https://www.lmg.gg/piawan
broken with error 520
cause theres no www. accepted on the end server
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@peak coral
given the error, it likely is a config mistake, they need to review their conf files to resolve that so it accepts www. properly but the non www. works fine
i had just finished watching the latest wan show, as usual... a lot of the chat don't understand things .... but it was fun and entertaining to watch
that steam local multiplayer to online stuff sounds great
They see a heading and start frothing at the mouth
Im interested in neg latency. Especially for competative fps.
That might either be incredibly stupid or game breakingly good
well there won't be any competitive (pro/esports) fps done on stadia, probably have ranked stuff like OW ranked but still not many people will actually play it i think if theres an alternative
and yea people don't listen, a lot of people have already cemented their opinion and won't change it no matter what.
you can say whatever, show someone video evidence, show someone something in real life, categorical proof of something, and they won't believe it
“Im right, they’re weong. Now tell me if you’re on my side or not so i can tell everyone else that you agree with me with a 2 second looping tiktok/boomerange and I get 30k likes on my social media platform of choice”
there is also a significant amount of people who will just say things to annoy you/deliberately pretend to misunderstand/or take the opposite side of an argument of whatever one you're making
that last bit - is very common now
There was a wan show a few weeks back where linus talked about his political nautrality views. And was just waiting for someone to clip it and take it out of cntext.
Theres enough high def linus footage out there now that someone could easily deepfake him.
i.e. someone says they like X (and everyone liked X all their life) suddenly people in the OTHER GROUP will say they hate X and give silly reasons why which could be easily debunked, including reasons that that group said were bad before the first group said they like X
I wouldnt be suprised if linus face was being spread in some non english speaking country making a very offensive statement
probably but every person who puts themselves out there has that problem
But yeah, as for wan show, superchats were nuts. Linus on wan show typically is his view as a ceo of an influencer company.
Politics trolling is such a low hanging fruit its a potato.
Say 1 or 2 names. Instantly derail a conversation.
theres a lot of people I follow, and some I've seen posts about them with some wall of text with pictures and very clipped video of them which appear to support the text's argument about why "guy is bad cause" but the guy is being taken completely out of context and the post is a complete fabrication
wonder why they took off so fast, where are they going
It wouldnt suprise me if trump instantly triggers a notification for most mods, simply because of how incendiary it becomes.
yea its a shame for people who like to enjoy a shit storm but I would also have done the same thing, took it down, wiped the chat
even though i like to enjoy watching funny things happen
Brandolini’s law.
Bullshir assymetry principle
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Also twitter is cancer.
yea
Wannshow part 1 24:00
I never want to be famous online for that reason, even if i saved like 59 puppies from a housefire.
not to get political because of obvious reasons, but twitter certain groups of people who have big influence over things, are all in a bubble, all following each other, all reading the same opinions and then they think that those opinions (of a extremely small % of people) are actually what everyone thinks and believe
well i keep a lot of my stuff anonymous - discord for instance - this name and av were random
email as well
Anyway, blizz fucked up in their response. They could have said “this is an esport, not your personal platform” should have let him keep the winnings, but threathen severe penalties.
name was generated cause i dont link anything from discord to anything else i do online
i keep my nicknames unique in most places unless i dont mind whatever it is being linked to me irl
My name is generic af.
Try to @ me.
two users with the same name i see
Was 4 at some point. I like handles. People who post under their real name are just begging for trouble, unless they want to make a carreer out of it.
i think i searched for this nickname before i chose it and it wasn't really being used by anyone, but sometimes I pick generic names that are common on purpose so its hard to even find "me", and even then, it wouldn't be possible to link "me" to other sites cause I wouldn't use the same name on another site
Plus its cancel culture now. Look at James Gunn. Posted something in 2012 during an era where any attention and edgy was good, stated a political opinion 2018? Then got kicked from makingnguardians of the galaxy 3 for a while cause of twitter outrage.
yes exactly
People need to stop considering twitter as a barometer of public opinion considering how damn easy it is to manipulate it.
2009 i think, i laughed at twitter, was like “its just corporations trying to enter the social media world. Basically good for support and engagement and thats it”
Now we have major opinions and decisions based on manipulating seo?
goes back to what I was saying with twitter, people/brands/PR companies all think twitter opinions and views are the views of everyone, the loud minority of people on there who have been influence on the platform and have other friends with the same opinions in high places can get things done
however those opinions are as i said, from a loud minority of people
There are some companies that I dont shop at, admittidly, but it depends on say a specific person invovked in its business, vs the stance of the company as a whole.
Too easy to manipulate seo, bots, and the public outrage machine tofocus attention in a market and let outrage amplify it.
the reason you see brands/ companies doing things that are extremely stupid and bad, are because over hte last 6 or so years, PR companies have been saying "these views are what the public think, if you do stuff that aligns with those views you will get $$$", and it sure has worked, but that doesnt last long and isnt as profitable compared to taking the opposite stance of what the hive mind of twitter takes
Yes, its stupid. Influencers and “companies with a lifestyle choice”
People want to feel their material purchases have an amplified effect on the world, despite that most people just chase the lowest price on amazon.
and i know from personal, IRL experience this is the case, having to push PR companies away and successfully argue the opposite is quite simple, because you can just go out on the street, asking your actual potential customers for opinions, look at good polling companies for opinions and you will see the truth
That 10% of engagement in taking a stand on... something... to differenciate yourself in this influencer world aint worth it.
We are Bespoke cookie company and we thing that chocolate chips ofer 0.5g is morally wrong.
Twitter and social media metrics are far easier to read than going on the street and taking polls.
Hell, i think its canon that made this carabiner camera. Despite having access to millions in r&d, ability to reach out to companies and focus groups. They started a kickstarter.
it's like how if say, a company takes a stance on something and the entire community of that company, say a game and game dev, utterly hate the stace and complain and complain, yet twitter people love it, or a certain forum of people who usually love "cancelling game devs" love the stace, and they say "I was going to buy your game now I will". Well they can then see the stats of purchases after the stance, and in all cases, it is a bad move because all you have done is annoy the people who actually use your product and people who may have bought your product won't now. The people who like the stance made, don't buy things usually
The problem its its stupidly easy to manipulate said poll. Whos to say said project engineers didnt self fund it to give the impression to higher ups to push the product.
Speaking of. The dumbest thing ever. Steam having to create tools to counter review bombing.
Say one employee from your group makes a political tweet. Goes viral. People hate it. Then they dive into his employment history.
Finds out you work for one company, sees that company has a list of games. Completely reviewbombs the hell out of it by association.
yea things like reviews and comment sections, are the "last bastion" of what the people have, and thats why certain places don't allow comments because they always will get dumped on, but these people just double down because of things like twitter where they think they are correct, they think they are right in what the majority of people believe, but they are wrong
Either the company panics, and fires the guy satisfying the griefers, the company goes under satisfying the griefers, the bombing itself becomes newsworthy satisfying the griefers, or nothing happens and they find another way to make this guy miserable.
if everyone took a stand to ignore the type of culture the loud minority pushes at once, it would put a stop to it once and for all
“My shitty comments had a real nagative effect on the world!”
and we are seeing more and more companies do this
Bullshit assemetry princible and a race to first like and comment.
And yeah, companies feeling like they need to engage in something deeper than just providing a good or service and needing to create a “moral imperative”. Like say making the internal shipping materials of ssds out of recyclable cardboard instead of think non recycleble plastic, cause that can be a political issue, instead of jist an ethical one.
things are changing, this is why you see the actual majority of people calling out things the loud minority of people (twitter types and their opinions) now, people have been and still are to scared to talk about things publically because the loud minority do the cancel culture stuff, sure both sides do it but one side specifically does it way more and is known for it. either way I am glad to be seeing changes to the more logical, correct, fact based things rather than virtue points and BS like that. its a slow change because theres been many years of attacks and one side basically controls everything but the general population doesnt agree with it, and the population is starting to talk, but the people in control don't like that thatys why you see news sites without comment sections and stuff like removing dislikes/etc... they will keep trying to surpress the majority opinion until it is too late
anyway i gotta go good talking
See ya. Good talk
Apparently he showed the Pixel 4 on stream during that segment which is why it was blured
oo pixel 4
oh is that an NDA thing
if anything showing off the pixel 4 as a sneak peak would be ok as far as I see it
as long as they dont do like, a full review on an NDA or something dumb
It almost definitely violates the NDA they signed
There’s a reason no reviewers ever post pictures of phones they get early
That, or its a very accurate depiction of what Linus keeps in his pants 
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mhhm
You know what would be awesome? If somebody managed to make a searchable transcript of the WAN show so people could search for certain things. The WAN show archive is there, but it would take weeks to search though it to find things.
Um, I mean, Android has had speech to text built into the Google keyboard for a while now.
yeahhhhh, but that's not really an api
WAN trascript-- like this? or what.. I mean this is just a primitive way to implement them
@icy lodge
Yeah... Where did you pull that from?
I can do them all
I just wrote a scirp to extract it
It can be editted like BOLDINg the times, etc...
labelling each WAN and such
Wow that's awesome
Your you thinking about just wanting to do eveyr WAN show in it's entirety, than posting it to the FORUM or possibly here
It won't take but 20 minutes
html files are tiny
ideally yeah. I know there was some things mentioned in some of the earlier WAN shows that I would like to reference on occasion, but I never have the time to dig through and find stuff. If you would do that it would be freaking awesome. HTML files are pretty small especially when it's just text.
yeah and you dont even need internet acess to see them as well
I never knew there was even any way to pull some titles from YouTube
yeah I would indexed them in the sense on WAN #1 - now so they'd all be in order and can even put youttube links to though who want to watch the videos as well
What might be a good idea is to highlight each line of text with a hyperlink that would take you to the exact video and time stamp where it was said.
yeah that would be easy to automate in my script
its like when you see the URL of the youtube and it has a /333S or whateber so it starts a 333s it'll just be built into those time frames as a hyperlink
and the initial video link starting at 0s will just be the main title etc...
shouldn't take too long to implement but I gotta eat dinner and I'll keep ya updated here in the meantime
Yeah exactly, I figured with the way YouTube handles it and since you output it in HTML anyway it would be pretty easy.
Have a nice dinner. I actually have to do some studying for college midterms right now myself.
well good luck Mate, i'll keep in touch
"pls linus don't talk about hong kong" - twitch chat
O
I'm looking forward to some words about the new Google products
I wonder if Luke thinks the modem/router - Google assistant fusion is a good idea
wan not live yet?
Negatory
They should be soon, the title has been changed in the last 10 or 15 minutes
Hdjxjhsjsns I hope it comes on soon
I do like some sleep sooner rather than later but also wanna see this live/watch the reactions to it live
Live wan show 19-10-2019 what happend
Bxjsjdndn uuuugh
When wan
35 minutes too late
Oh on YouTube it's online for me
But on twitch isn't
Always late
Just me?
Yeah. Luke has apparently been sitting there waiting for 30 minutes.
I know they are bro's but if I were him I would lowkey tell Linus he could, idk, prioritize Wan 10% more
I don't see it live on youtube
Its live on youtube now
if it's on youtube it's hidden
Link?
watch?v=refg6sdnCd0
ty
So.. They have a good setup, even backup power and yet Wan often goes.. Wrong.?
Haha.
considering it's one of their main pieces of content a week i agree i'm surprised they don't seem to care lol
Wan show you mean?
yah
it may not drive revenue directly but like, it keeps me engaged and stuff
I guess it doesn't make money no.. Yet I keep tuning in more than theire yt videos lately
Sometimes I watch ltt more for ltt than for tech. And wan show is literally Lin and Luk joking round
RIP Twitch & Floatplane
Have they said why its not live on twitch?
he's a whopping 33 over the hill... I'l just crawl back into my walker
f
no superchats :(
i've asked twice and no one read it..feels bad man

NordVPN got hacked - https://nordvpn.com/blog/official-response-datacenter-breach/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwrrXtBRCKARIsAMbU6bG5fVDAw7DAbYynsWQDYwNnnv5T0mI4fG6dfOWbRT1SRCs5oUEEWsIaAv9QEALw_wcB
OHH LOOK ... ANOTHER EXPLODING PHONE - From Discover on Google https://globalnews.ca/news/6055758/bc-man-exploding-cellphone/
I'll see your exploding phone and raise you: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/discord-turned-into-an-info-stealing-backdoor-by-new-malware/
opening the article installs the virus
No wan show?
idk
Sad face
"PIA, we trust them" that straight face line was probably the biggest personal recommendation LMG has ever given
Yay, now up on YouTube
Guys have a quick doubt.
Came to youtube (5 hours after live stream in youtube) for my weekly fix of WAN show. And sure enough youtube decides not to place it on my feed.
I went to the LTT ytube page and still the video was missing (Pic). But searching for the video and got it from search results ez 🤔
The video poped up in my feed and ltt channel now(6 hours after stream). Is this a weird quirk for delay in streamed videos? Or how do i reach these uploads 🤔
that just means the video is set as unlisted, but as long as you have the link to it you can watch it
or, maybe youtube is being weird -- didnt see the bit about you searching it
You guys do know that you can watch the archive on twitch as well before it processes on YouTube right?
Also is razor comms even a thing anymore?
skylake prices getting slashed in half
yessss now I can upgrade from this old i3
well maybe
someone caption something hilarious on this one
someone caption something hilarious on this cap
Fly in the eye
Sorry
@steep hedge you could always get stuff used!
yeah thats true, but I'd think that even in the used market this is good news to buyers
I currently have a 1070ti which is bottlenecked by the i3, had a totally different cpu than I thought I had
was pretty annoyed when I found out I had a dual core, it's about as strong as my previous computers quad
I didn't build this rig, but I was always team red
huge shame
cause i can't upgrade to sweet amd's now without making a whole new system
You could find some solid bundles on HardwareSwap, and sell your stuff to help account for that
what i'd really like to do is get into thread rippers
I had one mid-build but defective parts and newegg didnt have any more of the cpu's available and just shipped me back the board
was a huge hassle
ended up getting it all dealt with in the end but i'm left with an am4 noctua cooler and a bunch of ramsticks I don't have a use for
real shame too cause I had a killer deal on the thread ripper
but it was doa
er sorry not am4
str4
Oh dang
also can I just say I absolutely hate how cpu's are these day
I miss the pins
having the pins on the board is horrible
being able to just gently wiggle in the cpu was stupid easy
like who designed this
I mean, AMD still uses PGA for AM4 CPUs
@ashen mango "when your Forrest Whittaker eye is caused by nVidia"
i like how luke is squinting as he doesn't believe him
What do you think of the new airpods
Micron x100 on next WAN Show / TechLinked? https://wccftech.com/microns-x100-micron-ssd-planned-to-surpass-intel-optane/
WAN Show starting when?

are you sure about that?
The forums, as well as staff generally browsing tech news
Anybody know where the wan show is at?
Is there an audio only version of wan show that i can listen screen off on android?
they have it on soundcloud but the speed is infrequent
Quick qn...
What time did wan start today?🤔
on uploads
Vanced
YouTube vanced
.apk through browser not on playstore
I don't wanna be redundant
Can I get an answer?
linus be like "hey want to see my P score?" 😏
r u watching it?
yup :)
its all the same tho really
as long as its not weeks late it makes no difference
and yeah I also like having wan show playing in background while doing other stuff on my own time
even if it means watching the vod a bit late
yeah and its a win win for them because although there is no YouTube adds, I cant double tap skip the other sponsors like on youtube
or a win for someone, idk if its based on purchases or views
so are they actually going to have a blade runner watch party?
Did they screw up with the MOS Sponsor spot? the link takes me to a kickstarter that looks like it ended 2+ years ago
Speaking of backpacks, I hope LMG can create one that can haul a laptop, mini ITX/monitor or other tech goodies
^
I feel like that'd take quite a lot of r&d and would be monumentally expensive tho lol
And sort of niche market.
Like the merch we all buy from LMG
Rucksacks are the closest we have to that, but something dedicated, like that MOS pack?
its 23:25, 2,5 more hours before wan show 😧
its 19:57, 0,5 hours until the wan show
no
why not?
16:59 pt
now it is
)_>
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Rip stream
china stepped in and censored the stream 
stream ded
welp
I wholeheartedly agree with the Chinese gvmnt.
and scene
is it just here or did the yt stream die?
F
It died
both streams died
Twitch stream died for me
Pog
oh, this sux x)
YouTube stream dead. I guess somebody pulled the plug on them
lol everyone's saying China censored them
Lol 2nd time China took down the stream
YT dead as well
see, china knew linus was going to start speaking counter points that oppose china's ideas so they decided to censor the stream while linus was still saying "I wholeheartedly agree with the chinese government"
BUM BUM BUM
good thing it wasnt just here
This is at least the second time it happens while talking about China
Maybe not enough Nvidia gpu boxes in the background
China got the clout
@junior hull true
I thought I was becoming a madman and was the only one who noticed lmfao
prolly china pulling the plug because they agree but dont want the convo to continue incase it changes direction 🤣
but they're in Canada tho, lol
lol tell that to the NBA
Got too political lol
borders never stopped china before🤣
they're in vancouver though- it might as well be china
Canada didn't like the fact that Linus agreed with the Chinese govt
ok gamers what happened to my stream
too bad colton isnt signed in atm, and i doubt luke has his discord up
blizzard did it
Back up the
ITS BACK
did the chinamans strike?
Just got notif
back here
A min or two after I joined the first WanShow live stream I decided to watch ... it goes down. This feels kinda expected.
I for one, welcome our Chinese overlords
I, for one, don't.
^
they're back on
I like my YouTube!
Nah they went off again lol
I’m just saying it so I don’t get “disappeared”
damn
It’s working for me
there seems to be trouble
working here
It’s up on YT
@junior hull suicide via 2 gunshots to the back of the head, as per the norm
YouTube is no longer counting as live.
I’m watching on roku
It's back on YouTube, I had to change the URL
ppl here seems nice, think i might have to be more active in this server
luke toxic gamer 
YT quality seems to have briefly took a crap -- i briefly dropped down to 360p
Probably just your internet
is wan show down for everyone else?
no
it is back up rn
if your on YT you need to change to the new url
Yeah it's back up
np
lolololol
i never got a notification from twitch tbh
and LTT is one of the few twitch channels i actually keep its notifications enabled
Soo.. there is first 25 min of wan show as unlisted video on YouTube ? What's that all about ?
they took er jerbs
The video had went down for a few moments, so I'm guessing that's why it's split like that
Anyone have a link to the second half, Looks like they have gone unlisted?
where is it
Why did linus edit it to be 2 mins shorter?
so apparently all the Gamer's Nexus stuff on the WAN show was because of this (and probably a bit more elsewhere?)
Did you know armrests are just chairs for your arms ?
why would you say something so controversial yet so brave?
I feel real bad for people who genuinely think China would shut down a rando youtube channel's internet because they mentioned the topic
🤷 considering they block the whole youtube it seems non issue
where that wanshow at?
ikr its late
That's pretty standard...
yeah but 30 minutes... tahts really late
I was gonna say^^
I'm pretty sure they've done worse, but pushing 40 is up there
yep
when you realize that because of daylight savings its actually 5:37 there
ooof
ooof
No, they’re supposed to start at 5 PST, I’m pretty sure they’re just really late
They're on!
no feed
On Floatplane and twitch, not seeing it on YT though
whats the twitch link
ah i had tips at the end
👍
yeah, and it jumped to james at one point
glitching like crazy aswell
?
About no YT stream
They're going to set it now 😆
Bruh
FP steam is super glitchy and looks like Twitch may be as well
Clean af for me on both
twitch steam is a-ok for me, no lag or anything
Staying on the twitch stream
YT stream seems fine for me
@analog matrix I kept having the stream jump between live and an older stream on FP
Twitch looks good
Linus got swept off his feet tonight...
oh god the puns
It's fine, they'll arrest Broom Linus.
He's already practicing his 5th amendment right.
luke tired of holding up linus i see.lol
I love this show, but they are literally phoning it in now...lol
When can i phone in?
I didn't get the notification
Call 800 wan show lol
Did they talk about the whole floatplane drama regarding scrapyard wars being posted on YouTube and floatplane at the same time just because of all the negative comments the video was getting on floatplane
ight callin rn
Not sure. I hope they talk about it
They've gotta address it
I wonder if ltt looses money on the users that watch floatplane and not YouTube. So by launching the episodes on both, they don't loose all that revenue. I mean I pay for floatplane but not much... Even if they make enough money on floatplane, the analytics might hurt their channel.
linus sandal tips
Yeah but the only issue I have with floatplane is the bts stuff is no longer floatplane exclusive it's now put on YouTube stories
Yeah but bts before used to just be linus going around ltt with his phone talking about everything
Just wondering, do they run a compressor on their mic?
Flattens the sound signal. Much better for audio only listeners. Not sure if they still upload for podcasts.
absolutely. it boosts the lows and controls the peaks
@keen bloom agreed. Solid point
@keen bloom sorry I miss read your message. Yes they do use one.... I thought you asked if they use a compressor...
yeah; sound compressor
Broom linus wasn't really that' bad. Have you guys considered making it a regular thing to get someone random in the tech sphere to join you guys on a call for the wan show?
you could even rig up an official cell phone podium for it
get a stand or something so you can show a picture or a stick figure on the screen lmao
or at least get linus on there if he's out and about
@sacred sigil they've had a few guests via video chat in the past. They position their video feed between the two hosts. Can't think of any they've done in the last year or so tho.
I was suprised at Linus's comment about device form factors
IMO phones are now too big to fit comfortably in my pocket or one hand
Yet apps and content is increasingly designed for a 6" screen
I'd love to see foldable devices that unfold to "regular" size.
However I do think that Motorola really putting an older generation mid tier cpu in is pretty crap of them
I'd like to see a RAZR type phone, or Nokia type slide phone with a split screen
Remember how a long time ago they were saying that one idea for the name of the WAN show was weekly news analysis and gaming. If only they did that then today it would have been the Awesome Hard WANG show
woah. TIL the RAZR phone is eSIM only
Coppa talks
just wondering, is wan show anytime soon?
Between 15 to 40 minutes after now
Neat, thank you
Where is wan?
This is where I get all my tech advice. 
rip madison's stream
ikr
@daring cliff what’s the link?
@boreal badge what’s the link legit my we were talking about her at work and how this is what the world has come to
(watching the wan show now): great to hear you face the PIA buyout face on
"suop hasn't saved any streams to their channel yet." feelsbadman
Question do we get a second Wan Show ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE8i4lHcaQg
Its slated 4 23nov +1gmt 02:03
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8k yule log? I saw that on the last one, and i'm wondering - who has the hardware to watch that?
Proly because the bot that used to post there isn't online anymore.
Does any one knows which Camping Knives channel Luke was talking about on last wan show? The channel that reviewed linus's ladybug
Breaking news from MikroTik
😝
MrBeast was just about the Donate to the Black Friday Stream... but they had to End it... :/
^?
sup
so, shall we bet on WAN start time?
I say 17.35 pacific time
crap, it's starting lol
Ok WAN Show
ok wan show
no, new youtube control panel is garbage, he showed it at the beginning of stream
Yea ik, I saw it the last one too
But they have the black friday picture for the stream too xD
LOL
And the smart toilet thing is set as a future stream
thats probably youtube
at least its working on youtube, and i don't have to go to twitch
True
twitch is my back up when youtube just is like wan show, eh, who cares
ltt is the only reason i have a twitch account lol
wait they are live?
wouldn't it be amazing if the wan show could be livestreamed as a live podcast
that would be amazing
I mean, they at least archive it to SoundCloud
I totally missed this WAN show. I was at memex buying parts
whats memex
Memory Express
when does the wan show happen
Ok WAN Show
You have to say "Ok WAN show" to activate it now. 
As far as the smart toilet goes, Wouldn't it be illegal for them to collect your data and sell it? In the U.S. at least because of HIPAA laws?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ clown world is catching up again
Everything in our lives is connected to the internet, so why not our toilets? Take a tour of Smart Pipe, the hot new tech startup that turns your waste into ...
I did always think the smart pipe was a cool concept though
were do i get one
no one will know
Ye
Ok wan show
what time GMT+1 does it start?
It’s 25 minutes over now
Maybe linus forgot to take the stream public 😂
lol
Do Floatplane users get a link
He would never do that....
Lmao
floatplane link is just https://www.floatplane.com/channel/linustechtips/live
not live on youtube?
There's 2k people waiting before stream on youtube
up on floatplane and twitch
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linustech on Twitch 🙃
Thanks bot for "censoring" me
Live in twitch
yea youtube is broken lol
*on
what is up with his voice on twitch
Sickness
love that you can't share the twitch for linustech in the linustech discord
His voice is fried
lol
he is so sick lol
YouTube stream is Down
YouTube gave Linus AIDS
yo is linus hella sick lmao
lmao linus sounds like a teenager also cuz of it
youtube chat getting a bit out of hand
spam
Oh yeah
There's one dude called "WE ARE NOT YOUR KIND" that keeps spamming k
Kinda find it funny how YouTube hasn't removed them yet
But removed people on Markiplier's stream 🤔
ye and there was a dude that kept spamming "im from (insert country here)" with awesome smileys.
ye a little sus ngl
What chat is Linus looking at?
linus usually responds to the YT chat more than twitch
ahh
Yeah
i thought there were some chat mods for both Twitch and YT
i guess in the case of Twitch at least is that Nightbot had gotten twitch banned via a DMCA takedown -- was a fake claim, but it messed up its API keys
bruh i got timed out lmao i havent even spammed lmao
@distant hatch that happens to me on halo master chief collection, so i know the feeling -- ill be idle waiting for matchmaking to finish and ill get kicked from the matchmaking queue for being idle
Oof
as for Youtube, the Nightbot moderator seems to be broken
ye
Yeah
Showbot > Nightbot
did he fix the youtube video description thing? (COPY & PASTE)
xd
Just watching the vod, Linus mentioned doubts about zero latency vr and well Ive tried it here in Melbourne aus and it was great. I don't have any frame of reference to any other kind of vr headset but the tracking seemed great and aside from one of the backpacks bejng broken (they have spares to replace) in the group it worked well.
reloading your LMG clip
channel
Like watching getting information from the WAN show but don't have the time to watch the whole show? Well you're in luck! The audio only version is available as a podcast on Spotify. Check it out! 😄
https://open.spotify.com/show/5l8IBkxX6pgPPfEL6AI57O?si=OiMjmDBKTqWOZ2vH0Uwcbg
Did they ever start posting it as a podcast within a reasonable timeframe?
ok wan show
I often listen to the podcast version
eny 1 els having troble whit Floatplane ?
Also having trouble, finally got it to work enough for me to download videos, as streaming them really ain't working
The newest one didn't seem to want to start playing, just spinny wheel.
vega shines in red dead its crazy
hm
Yo so ... in reference to Linus's comment on the WAN show MacOS is downloadable from the mac devel site without account creds. So I doubt the non-replacable SSD on the MacPro is meant for stopping hackintosh? The only thing I can see now is like ... we got your data, pay us for it back "legal" ransom kind of way...
i think he means that with these non replaceable hard drives, there will be no reason for apple to allow people to download MacOS and then they will stop allowing people to download MacOS
They've already made changes with Catalina so that the operating system is no longer actually part of the main system volume, even though it appears like it does. So backup utilities like Carbon Copy that clone the entire hard drive no longer work.
Also you can install macos on the non t2 drive on the mac pro
the changes to catalina separating OS files from the main system is really cool from a security standpoint
preventing any apps/viruses from changing important system files
It does get in the way of people doing things that they're used to doing
Like being able to lift an entire system and move it to another computer
This capability is very helpful if you have failing hardware
I think Linus made that very point in the WAN show.... like, if your hardware dies late at night and you need to be up and running, what options do you have?
I guess it depends
if a windows pc dies late at night you can just move the drive to a new computer
if you install macos on a non t2 drive you can do the same thing
the point of the t2 drive is to keep your data as secure as possible so if hardware dies you're kinda screwed
And if you don't want or need that security in your use case, can you turn it off?
Or is this a case where Uncle Tim knows better than you, the professional, what you need?
I dont think its necessarily a bad thing to force users into more security
since most people dont know why it matters
I think it should be at least possible to disable with some obscure terminal command
but apple is definitely the company to be, "this is the way things should be so take it or leave it"
So you're a professional audio engineer running backline gigs at a 15,000 person concert, you've got a couple of Macs up and running so that you can do real-time audio processing.... the machine is disconnected from the Internet .... and the belief is that these people aren't smart enough to understand the security implications? Dude, there's big burly dudes with tats and folded arms stopping randos from coming in and stealing the gear.
I dont really understand why you cant pair a new drive to the t2 chip with it just nuking the drive in the process. I think that would meet all the same security benefits and be user replaceable
This isn't a made up use case, I know people who do this sort of thing. None of them have been happy with Apple's product offerings for years as it is.
Youre conflating software security with physical security, those are entirely unrelated
Im confused how the ability to quickly clone a drive running mojave vs catalina would be useful if a machine fails during a concert
I know exactly what the fuck I'm talking about here. We're talking about professionals at work needing to get shit done. Having the operating system actively fight you when you need to handle hardware failure is not helpful
"Software security" is 100% irrelevant in a disconnected, secured environment
what is the exact situation where the OS is fighting someone here?
like if a motherboard fails?
software cloning of drives isnt possible if you cant boot the machine
Ohfuckssakes
You take a backup of the rig.
You restore it when things go bad.
Again, i'm giving you an example to work with here -- a touring band. They need precisely the same set up night after night
You can capture exactly what is needed on day one, byte for byte. If something weird happens, restore from backup. This is normal.
now youre talking about software failure when you were talking about hardware failure earlier
Of course, what actually happens in this case is that people bring multiple systems. Everything has a backup.