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tame carbon
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my current laptop is awful

unborn sluice
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HDD who put their life for my learning

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gone but not forgotten

tame carbon
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I got a stack of 2.5" 5400 RPM drives

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from old laptops xD

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not sure what I plan on doing with them

nova igloo
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Yeah its kinda when documents from years ago gone, u will miss them alot

tame carbon
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when I switch installs

unborn sluice
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not sure what I plan on doing with them
@tame carbon I still have my dead HDDs

nova igloo
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RAID 5

not sure what I plan on doing with them
@tame carbon

tame carbon
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I usually make a clone of my image

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and reinstall everything

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if I need old data, I can just go into my archive of dead systems

nova igloo
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Looking for ur forgotten old BTC wallet rite XD

tame carbon
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I already got rid of my btc long time ago

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before the big boom

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:(

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sold 20 BTC for 4,50 each

nova igloo
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oh 2017

tame carbon
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no

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2011

nova igloo
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what what 4.5

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...

tame carbon
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yes

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BTC wasnt always worth so much

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I still hate myself for not holding onto them

nova igloo
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get some soon, its going to dump

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its 13.5k now

tame carbon
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Im not investing into cryptos ever again

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I made 2k with ethereum

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and thats about it

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its just gambling

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I rather work for money and deliver useful work

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stock market is useless for society

nova igloo
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no there arent

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they push the society forward

tame carbon
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Like in america?

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xD

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their unregulated capitalism will be the death of democracy

nova igloo
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society like North Korea are so dead, everybody working with no efforts

tame carbon
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yeah but NK is a ruthless necrocracy

unborn sluice
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society like North Korea are so dead, everybody working with no efforts
@nova igloo PepeHmmm

nova igloo
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Everything go ups and down, nothing go straight up perfectly

tame carbon
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@nova igloo unregulated capitalism leads to rich lobbyists who make laws

nova igloo
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Directly Propotional

tame carbon
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not the people

nova igloo
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Ermm yeah, but we need them

@nova igloo unregulated capitalism leads to rich lobbyists who make laws
@tame carbon

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to stay balanced

tame carbon
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I mean

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if you compare developed european nations to the USA

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the main difference

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is that the monetary system is more strongly regulated

nova igloo
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IDK im from Malaysia haha

tame carbon
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@nova igloo haha ok then

nova igloo
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I think the world should be balanced

tame carbon
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yeah if you suggest to the average american that you want to regulate capitalism

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they call u a commie

nova igloo
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like now

tame carbon
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If ur interested at all

nova igloo
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they call u a commie
@tame carbon thats nature of human, they do this to protect their empire

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Do u think i have got BrainWashed ? XD

tame carbon
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Not at all

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but even for nonwired brains, this is an enlightening perspective

nova igloo
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but mostly ๐Ÿ˜†

tame carbon
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Chris Hedges does good job explaining, something that even I didnt quite understand

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like, why is it that people don't care about facts anymore

nova igloo
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For exmple Area 51, they should have reason why they dont public the secret

tame carbon
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yeah but aliens?

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xD

nova igloo
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If they have time machine, they should have a way to prevent people exploiting it. I believe this is the reason

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IF <====

tame carbon
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haha

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don't have enough gigglewatts

nova igloo
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lol

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why dont u say powerstone

tame carbon
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I'd love to continue our conversations

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but I have some work to do

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been putting this off for 2h now

nova igloo
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sure, bye bye

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Bye Linus, i know u laughing at us ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

unborn sluice
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been putting this off for 2h now
@tame carbon keep going

tame carbon
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nou

unborn sluice
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big nou

tame carbon
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fookin'

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Error: Failed to lookup view "home/home" in views directory "/home/crystal/Projects/mvc/src/view"
    at Function.render (/home/crystal/Projects/mvc/node_modules/express/lib/application.js:580:17)
    at ServerResponse.render (/home/crystal/Projects/mvc/node_modules/express/lib/response.js:1012:7)
    at /home/crystal/Projects/mvc/src/app.ts:25:9
    at UmbracoRouter.<anonymous> (/home/crystal/Projects/mvc/src/heartcore.route.ts:30:76)
    at Generator.next (<anonymous>)
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express is stupid

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you can set the file extension

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but it ignores it

unborn sluice
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home/home

tame carbon
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src/view/home/home.handlebars

unborn sluice
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ikr

tame carbon
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views are sorted by type

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but its .hbs

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not .handlebars

unborn sluice
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too much magic happening in the background

tame carbon
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express is le bumb

unborn sluice
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what templating engine are you using

tame carbon
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gh

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aujhdsjkldhfgs

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NO

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omg

unborn sluice
tame carbon
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sharex equivalent is being annoying

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@unborn sluice here ^

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I set the extension, which works fine for the layout files

unborn sluice
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I see

tame carbon
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but the actual views, it does not see them

unborn sluice
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It can't view the view

tame carbon
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@unborn sluice this is why I hate node

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lol

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cus I cant really go through the code and see why express is messing this up

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its all a transpiled hell

unborn sluice
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node isn't bad imo

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it's what people build on it

tame carbon
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yeah but

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even the language, and libraries

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are flaky af

unborn sluice
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its all a transpiled hell
@tame carbon why I hate transpiling

tame carbon
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this is quite neat now

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I can really easily code against the CMS now

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typescripts composite typing system is really neat for this

unborn sluice
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I still like to use plaincode js

tame carbon
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@unborn sluice this is quite neat:

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router.get("home", (req: Request, res: Response, m: Umbraco<Home>) => {
    res.render("home/home", {home: m, articles: client.getArticles()})
})
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I no longer have to specify the path

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these are type controllers, so they get called when a view needs to be rendered for a specific type

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paths are defined by the CMS

nova igloo
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how many IPs are in a block of IPv6

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2^128 ?

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idk

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googled a while, looks like there's no such thing a "block" of ipv6

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idk the texts above said ablock of IPv6 cost 150$

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yeah what does it mean "block"

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a block of C-Class ipv4 means /24 = 254 ips

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about ipv6 i have no clue

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Do we use "block" in ipv6

unborn sluice
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your ISP can give you like /48 blocks

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(depends)

nova igloo
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oh its use for someting like unit

unborn sluice
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uhh what unit

nova igloo
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Ah, use this table

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using three `

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uhh what unit
@unborn sluice like pounds, /4 pounds = 0.25pounds something like that

unborn sluice
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wait what

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I've never heard of ipv6 pounds or kilograms

nova igloo
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nvm ignore it, even myself barely understand it

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btw im happy if i can get /122 block of ipv6

unborn sluice
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don't worry they might give you /48

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or /64

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depends on your ISP

nova igloo
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lol Malaysia sell ipv4 which charge us monthly

unborn sluice
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btw im happy if i can get /122 block of ipv6
@nova igloo that's way too short

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lol Malaysia sell ipv4 which charge us monthly
@nova igloo it's not just malaysiaa

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ipv4 is scarce , it's a resource

nova igloo
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1 fixed Ipv4 charge us 50$

unborn sluice
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because it's usually for businesses

nova igloo
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Actually its times to change from ipv4 to ipv6

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most of the applicances support ipv6 now

unborn sluice
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tell that to websites not supporting ipv6

nova igloo
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I think not much? They only have to copy paste their public ipv6 to their DNS servers

unborn sluice
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@tame carbon @topaz quarry

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this guy got the solution for ipv6 migration

nova igloo
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lol what a roast

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ouchh...

unborn sluice
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But seriously though

tame carbon
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wat

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@nova igloo smallest possible publicly routed v6 block is a /64

nova igloo
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oh idk abut that

tame carbon
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you can sign up for a free 64

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and also get a /48 if you want

nova igloo
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how many usable public ip in /64 ipv6

peak cloak
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enough

tame carbon
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more than you'll ever need

peak cloak
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18,446,744,073,709,551,616

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2^64

tame carbon
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-1

nova igloo
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oh only /64 are possible to be routed

tame carbon
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yeah publicly routed

nova igloo
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doesnt means only 1 public ip address

tame carbon
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no you assign the prefix to your local network

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and all your devices get an IP in the same /64

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you don't need NAT

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if you do the certification on HE, you learn about all this

nova igloo
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2001:db8:0000:0000:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff

tame carbon
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yes

nova igloo
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those f are usable right

tame carbon
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2001:: is public v6

nova igloo
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is that rules for ipv6, only can route public ip in column 1 to 4

tame carbon
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they arent columns

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but rather

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octets

nova igloo
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yeah octets

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ipv6 is more complicated than ipv4

tame carbon
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it really isn't

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It has some features

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that v4 lacks

nova igloo
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But why ipv6 cant route public ip for 5th octet

tame carbon
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Because it was decided to be done that way

nova igloo
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rules of ipv6?

tame carbon
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IETF and IANA decide on this

nova igloo
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then how i going to assign ipv6 to my computers

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2001:db8:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:000X

tame carbon
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SLAAC

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and for v6, you can use ND to expose the prefix

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SLAAC simplifies IPv6 address management by providing plug-and-play IP connectivity with no manual configuration of hosts. SLAAC enables an IPv6 client to generate its own addresses using a combination of locally-available information and information advertised by routers through Neighbor Discovery Protocol (NDP).

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DHCP is obsolete

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so is NAT

nova igloo
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So its something like assigning ip to MAC address

tame carbon
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wat

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MAC addresses are physical

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operate on layer 2

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IP is layer 3

nova igloo
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nvm my brain is dead

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will doscover myself

misty terrace
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my brain doesn't accept ipv6

tame carbon
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@nova igloo my router has a special menu option for v6

nova igloo
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btw

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are there such Private IP in ipv6?

tame carbon
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fc00::/7

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is entirely for private use

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but there's no 'lan' IP

nova igloo
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oh, so normally ISP distribute network to us by using this IP

tame carbon
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since all your devices on your network, use the same prefix as your internet

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no

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there's no NAT

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so no 192.168.1.1 equivalent

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that doesnt exist on v6

nova igloo
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so my neighbour can ping my device?

tame carbon
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no

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you still have a firewall

nova igloo
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u mean Port Forward?

tame carbon
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no

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port forward is NAT

nova igloo
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wtf eveything changed

tame carbon
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This is what NAT does

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But you don't need this in v6

misty terrace
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that's why my brain doesn't like ipv6, i'm too used to ipv4 to understand it

tame carbon
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@misty terrace I had that too at first

peak cloak
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you just have a firewall blocking everything from WAN

nova igloo
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better spend more efforts in ipv6 than ipv4

tame carbon
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v6 is easier

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you don't need dhcp

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you dont need NAT

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port fowarding you don't have to do

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you just add an exception to your firewall for a given IP

peak cloak
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you just open the firewall

tame carbon
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exactly

misty terrace
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i... i can't understand how you don't need dhcp

tame carbon
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@misty terrace SLAAC

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stateless auto address configuration

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you can still use DHCP if you like

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NAT can also be done on v6, but I dont see why you would

nova igloo
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So does it mean eveyone will get Public IP if we r on ipv6 network

tame carbon
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its useless on v6

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@nova igloo yeah thats the idea

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every device on your local network, has its own public v6

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firewall protects them

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no more NAT, no more portforwarding

misty terrace
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it sounds so wrong
i can't stand it

nova igloo
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oh, firewall are having huge resposible for security now

tame carbon
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wat

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they have always been

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NAT is a form of firewall too

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NAT operates on layer 4

misty terrace
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nat exposes an entire network as a single ip

tame carbon
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@misty terrace thats src-nat

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masquerade

nova igloo
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because in IPV4 u need portfoward to allow router send the packet to specific pc, even the firewall disabled

tame carbon
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this rule ^

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is what every consumer router does by default

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any traffic for 0.0.0.0/0

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is src-natted

nova igloo
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So i dont have to request for Public IPv6 rite, its automatically a public ip

tame carbon
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You get a /64 from your ISP

peak cloak
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or from tunnelbroker

tame carbon
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yeah

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they hand em out like candy

nova igloo
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thats for ipv4 tunnel to ipv6

tame carbon
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^

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exactly

nova igloo
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maybe we still have to request for the static ipv6

tame carbon
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no

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you get the /64 via ND

nova igloo
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if not everytime i restart my 3in1 modem/router the ipv6 will change

tame carbon
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dynamic addressing on v6 sounds like you need a new ISP

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because

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its stupid

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the total amount of addresses supported by v6 is insane

nova igloo
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so the ipv6 assign to my router's mac address permantly u meant?

tame carbon
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it shouldnt change

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I just have this on my router

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but its disabled right now

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v6 tunnel is slower for me than v4, because I've not finished the certification 100%

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hurricane electric does rate limiting for noncertified users

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but if I enable it

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I have a dual stack

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so every device gets a local v4, and a public v6

nova igloo
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How ISP gonna transfer packets to you if they dont know your MAC

nova igloo
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then how ur devices assign to an ip when we dont use mac

tame carbon
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SLAAC

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MAC addresses are always there

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but thats a layer below

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We're talking about Network layer when we talk about v4 vs v6

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data link layer is what uses MAC addresses

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thats for switches to know, which packet has to go out which port

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ethernet frames are addressed by MAC

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any switch can do v6, because they operate on layer 2

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except for the odd egg out, like netgear

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that locks down v6 on their low tier switches

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which is 100% nonsensical

nova igloo
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brb finishing my assignment

tame carbon
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On system startup, a node automatically creates a link-local address on each IPv6-enabled interface, even if globally routable addresses are manually configured or obtained through "configuration protocols" (see below). It does so independently and without any prior configuration by stateless address autoconfiguration (SLAAC),[38] using a component of the Neighbor Discovery Protocol. This address is selected with the prefix fe80::/64.

In IPv4, typical "configuration protocols" include DHCP or PPP. Although DHCPv6 exists, IPv6 hosts normally use the Neighbor Discovery Protocol to create a globally routable unicast address: the host sends router solicitation requests and an IPv6 router responds with a prefix assignment.[39]

The lower 64 bits of these addresses are populated with a 64-bit interface identifier in modified EUI-64 format. This identifier is usually shared by all automatically configured addresses of that interface, which has the advantage that only one multicast group needs to be joined for neighbor discovery. For this, a multicast address is used, formed from the network prefix ff02::1:ff00:0/104 and the 24 least significant bits of the address.
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multicast is also easier with v6

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v4 multicast is a mess

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IGMP :barf:

nova igloo
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oh so it became ur computer are broadcasting IPv6 and occupying it

tame carbon
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@nova igloo the idea of ND is that the computer announces itself to the router

nova igloo
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not the switch assigning it to your pc

tame carbon
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and the router responds with an IP from its own prefix

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and then announces that to the network

nova igloo
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oh so it become switch and firewall

tame carbon
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firewall is layer 4

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we're still talking about layer 3

nova igloo
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how the firewall going to stop the external connection

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dont broadcast the address + blocking?

tame carbon
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SLAAC uses link-local

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special subspace of v6, for local communications between devices

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you've probably seen these IPs before

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they start with fe80::

nova igloo
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which whole network use one public ip which not accepting inbounds?

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i mean all devices under it

tame carbon
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yeah, so you typically have a v6 firewall on layer 4

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that makes sure that only outgoing connections are permitted

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and inbound is only allowed for already established connections

nova igloo
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so its something like LAN

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this is subnetting then

tame carbon
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fe80:: link-local is someting entirely different from regular routing

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link-local shouldnt be routed, ever.

nova igloo
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i can have infinity more private ipv6 devices in a /64 public ip

tame carbon
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if a local device on your /64 wants to communicate with a device on the internet

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they route using the public portion

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anything smaller locally, on your own internet

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gets handled by the router at your house

nova igloo
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yep

tame carbon
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v6 only really uses those prefixes to "group" networks together

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so its easier to route

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but once you get to an endpoint for /64

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you can do the rest locally

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you can still set up subnets under the /64

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set up a local /65

nova igloo
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so the routers kept throwing the request to higher level router until the one router who recognize the prefix

tame carbon
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yeah, routing tables use the shortest most specific prefix

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that matches the destination IP

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so public internet routers

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only look at the first half of the IP

nova igloo
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oh wow there's n+1 of ips now

tame carbon
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you can divide a /64 into two /65's

nova igloo
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even the public ip

tame carbon
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and so on

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a /96 would be equivalent to a v4 /0

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v6 is 128 bits

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64 bits are used for public routing

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the other 64 bits, you can do with, whatever you want

nova igloo
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who knows do ISP Malaysia going to give the clients fe80::

tame carbon
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they wont

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cus that is not routed by other routers

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your packet goes straight to /dev/null

nova igloo
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or use this? 2001:db8:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001

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and our devices going to use fe80::

tame carbon
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all public IPs sit on 2001:

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link local is fe80:

nova igloo
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yeah then it become every home have one public ipv6

tame carbon
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link local is only really used to establish addressing for v6

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once your device has a v6

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link local will be replaced with the actual v6

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let me show you

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gonna enable my v6 tunnel

nova igloo
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sure

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Whats the function of tunnel?

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dont u on ipv6 n v4 network

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tunnels are for those who dont have ipv6

tame carbon
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^

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this is on my laptop now

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just reconnected ethernet and got a v6

nova igloo
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how ur laptop ensure it got the same address everytime it reconnect?

tame carbon
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not sure I really care about that

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I have a dns prefix here at home

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so all my devices get a hostname

nova igloo
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which part

tame carbon
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Its not listed

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but its like

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watomat.irl.REDACTED.nl

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watomat

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is the name of my laptop

nova igloo
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how many fe80:: I can create in a /64 address?

tame carbon
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dont use fe80

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thats for auto config

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 crystal@watomat ๎‚ฐ ~ ๎‚ฐ ping6 google.com
PING google.com(ams15s29-in-x0e.1e100.net) 56 data bytes
64 bytes from ams15s29-in-x0e.1e100.net: icmp_seq=1 ttl=120 time=75.4 ms
64 bytes from ams15s29-in-x0e.1e100.net: icmp_seq=2 ttl=120 time=8.64 ms
64 bytes from ams15s29-in-x0e.1e100.net: icmp_seq=3 ttl=120 time=8.40 ms
64 bytes from ams15s29-in-x0e.1e100.net: icmp_seq=4 ttl=120 time=8.31 ms
64 bytes from ams15s29-in-x0e.1e100.net: icmp_seq=5 ttl=120 time=8.43 ms
64 bytes from ams15s29-in-x0e.1e100.net: icmp_seq=6 ttl=120 time=8.31 ms
64 bytes from ams15s29-in-x0e.1e100.net: icmp_seq=7 ttl=120 time=8.29 ms
nova igloo
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nice ping

tame carbon
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first packet is slow, because the tunnel is only just up

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so its still optimizing the route

nova igloo
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why u need tunnel

tame carbon
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because my ISP does not do v6

nova igloo
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dont google support ipv6

tame carbon
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yes google does v6

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don't you see the ping6 ?

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thats ping on ipv6

nova igloo
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oh ping6 is for ipv6

tame carbon
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yep

nova igloo
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lol dont work on windows

tame carbon
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and routes

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so the 2000::/3 for "default gateway"

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and those 2001:470: bla /64

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is my own prefix

nova igloo
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cool lol

tame carbon
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exactly

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this is ND ^

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and neighbors

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those three 2001: ips are

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  1. my router, 2. my laptop
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and 3. my pc

nova igloo
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what u mean ur own prefix

tame carbon
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you can sign up for a v6 prefix at hurricane electric

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get your own public v6 addresses

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its free

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my ISP peers directly with Hurricane Electric

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so ping is only like 0.5ms more

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crystal@watomat ๎‚ฐ ~ ๎‚ฐ ping google.com
PING google.com (172.217.17.110) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from ams15s29-in-f14.1e100.net (172.217.17.110): icmp_seq=1 ttl=119 time=7.52 ms

v4 ^

waxen scroll
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@rocky badge u been pretty quiet

tame carbon
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@nova igloo just sign up on hurricane electric

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and begin certification process

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they give you information on how it all works

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the test service is automated

nova igloo
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yep waiting for verification mail

waxen scroll
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and dont forget that IPv6 needs a firewall on your router ideally.

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blob didnt remember.

tame carbon
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I just went to mikrotik website

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and got a script for the default v6 recommended setup

nova igloo
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sadd... the mail got thrown into SPAM folder lol

tame carbon
waxen scroll
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*wonders how many prosumers forgot they need a FW when turning on IPv6

tame carbon
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lol

waxen scroll
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UBNT you cant even do a v6 firewall unless you do it in CLI

nova igloo
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do i need public ipv4 for that

tame carbon
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@nova igloo tunnelbroker uses v4 to tunnel v6

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the routing is handled by Hurricane Electric

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you need to have a device that maintains this tunnel

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either a computer, but preferably a router

nova igloo
tame carbon
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Amount of crap that mtik supports is nuts ^

nova igloo
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that ip are cellular ip

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i think i cant setup it here

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im not at home

tame carbon
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yeah you'd need to be at home

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and access your router

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inb4 your router cant do v6

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๐Ÿคฃ

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@waxen scroll took me a while to figure out that some features on mtik require a package to be installed first

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ipv6, ntp-server and multicast are all optional packages

waxen scroll
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oh wow. i didnt know they let you BGP over those tunnels

tame carbon
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yis

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HE is cherished among v6 evangelists

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because they offer a clean IP solution

nova igloo
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What should i type in the IPv4 Endpoint ?

tame carbon
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your IPv4 endpoint is your own internet IP

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oh

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and this only works if you have a static public IP

nova igloo
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yes

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lol

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why isp dont support ipv6 when they distributing ipv6 to us

tame carbon
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heres a fun thing

nova igloo
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not sure mine, i mean urs

tame carbon
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I dont even need NAT on ipv4

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cus I have like 8 public IPv4s

nova igloo
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yeah thats enough

tame carbon
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/29 is like 8 addresses

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only 6 hosts though

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1 ip is used by router, and the other is broadcast

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I use this for my virtual machines

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dont want to port forward everything

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only games and such on my LAN, I do port forwarding for

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@nova igloo if you haven't got a mikrotik already, get one :D

nova igloo
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damn, what a waste, using public ip for router ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

tame carbon
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My network interfaces ^

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@nova igloo its a public router on that subnet

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but the subnet is public

peak cloak
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I need to get the Hex S

tame carbon
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git it

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@peak cloak join the revolution

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we will show these unify freaks how its done

nova igloo
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@nova igloo if you haven't got a mikrotik already, get one :D
@tame carbon I'm more interested on Ubiquiti Edge

tame carbon
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ew

nova igloo
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???

waxen scroll
toxic citrus
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My 5ghz randomly drops out on my Asus dsl-ac55u. I saw one review that mentions this is a "common issue" but i checked around online and I can't really find any info on this one exactly, mostly about other ac 5x or 6x models. Any advice or are Asus modems just bad? I am granted warranty from the shop i bought it from so that's an option but ideally I don't want to lose my finely tuned settings for virtual desktop

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And yes even when at default settings the 5ghz drops, just checked while typing above message

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The modem is also not very hot on any surface. Not stone cold, but like about as warm as an idle phone

stuck hawk
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If you are concerned about modem/router settings, many allow you to export settings to a file so you could restore them after getting the hardware fixed/replaced.

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By "drop" even on 5GHZ do you mean that you lose WiFi connection completely, signal is low, or signal is fine but internet connectivity is bad?

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To determine signal strength, I'd get an app like Wifiman for android

toxic citrus
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No like the modem literally stops sending 5ghz signal from time to time then turns on again..the light on the modem goes on and off each time the signal itself does. Nobody in the house knows what a router even does so it's definitely not a prank either ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Yeah I'll find a way to export settings or something, thanks

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Also it happens at least once an hour but not exactly a set time

stuck hawk
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Yeah that's far less likely to be a configuration or a reception issue since the 5 GHZ light turns off too. Some system or wireless log on the router UI should show errors or an indication of something at the time of a drop. I have an ASUS AC WiFi router myself.

peak cloak
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could also just be a bad router?

toxic citrus
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Oh right i turned it off already now as I'm finished with vr for the night. Thinking it's probably just a bad router, at least one other person mentioned the exact same issue online

charred meadow
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Could it be overheating? I've had to attached a fan to an ISP combo unit once.

peak cloak
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yeah

toxic citrus
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I mean it doesn't feel hot anywhere but it could

peak cloak
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it could be thermal overload and it's shutting down

toxic citrus
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Usually you'd actually feel heat on an overheating modem

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Perhaps the cooling solution for this one is just terrible and doesn't even let heat reach the shell of itself ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Having to strap a fan to it would really break immersion in vr though but it's better than not having a signal lmao

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I'll see what it does if i leave the window open tomorrow, promised cold but no rain tomorrow

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Alright thanks, I'll see if it's thermals and if so find some kind of cooling solution. And If it's a bad router then just export settings

stuck hawk
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It may just be a bad modem regardless of thermals, but yes normally if a hardware issue then a hotter device may occur.

tawny hemlock
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Anyone no a good 2.5gb 3 layer switch

peak cloak
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anyone know vyos? Bascially i'm having an issue where the router itself can't resolve hostnames

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the router has dns forwarding enabled and the router's devices can resolve hostnames just fine

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forgot to set system name-server

waxen scroll
cedar igloo
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I'm currently trying to create a vSAN datastore on vCenter Server and it's wanting a "cache". Typically, what size would you all recommend for a SSD to act as a cache in a 10tb vSAN? Not sure if I am understanding how a vSAN actually works, so my question may not be clear

tame carbon
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however much ram you have

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the more cache the faster it is

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its write cache

cedar igloo
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Oh. I was thinking it's an SSD that was used as a cache

tame carbon
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You're right

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yeah, sorry got confused

cedar igloo
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I'm assuming vSANs are more recommended than NFS volumes for virtual machine storage?

fading mesa
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Had a q

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cat5e and cat6 both support gigabit speeds, cat 6 has a higher bandwidth

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does that make it faster?

peak cloak
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for gigabit, cat 6 is no faster than cat 5e. However, if you are putting wires in your walles do cat6 since it has higher tolerances and can faster speeds (given the eqipment at both ends can suppor it) over longer distances

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you can also have the most expensive ethernet cable in the world but just gigabit LAN cards on each end, you will only get gigabit

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the cable won't make your connection any faster(generally)

fading mesa
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thanks

severe venture
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when is ubnt gonna release new firmware for the UDM? its been months :\

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yeah i figured UBNT is really testing out unifiOS

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for a stable release

thick minnow
tame carbon
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@thick minnow wat

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first

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IT people dont do windows

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and second

jaunty talon
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;)

tame carbon
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well ok then

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@jaunty talon not sure why, but lowest I can get 7ms

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even though the hop is not that far away from me

jaunty talon
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I have 8 hops in that case

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Tho first 6 are internal

tame carbon
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I got 3ms internal

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for some reason

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and 7ms to ISP

jaunty talon
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what type of internet?

tame carbon
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fiber optics

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singlemode

jaunty talon
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Sounds like a long distance between you and your ISP's router then

tame carbon
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It really isnt

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maybe

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70km

jaunty talon
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indeed, should not be 7ms then

tame carbon
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Netherlands is tiny

jaunty talon
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my distance to 1.1.1.1 is around 40km I would say

tame carbon
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this is on my gateway

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@jaunty talon what if its not a direct fiber path?

jaunty talon
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If i didnt know know better, i would say that you have coax and that it's the CMTS that does the latency

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better as in you saying it's fiber

tame carbon
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Its a yellow fiber with a bi-di transceiver directly in the router

jaunty talon
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yee

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I trust you! :)

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CMTS'es however adds latency!

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and often around 6-10ms

tame carbon
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But the carrier who operates the fiber network, is different company

jaunty talon
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ahh

tame carbon
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do you think they have a DEMUX-MUX inbetween?

jaunty talon
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well they have to do a quite big run

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it wouldn't really impact latency

tame carbon
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There's 4 ISPs that offer service

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and from what I gathered, they just plug your house into the right patch panel

jaunty talon
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rather the quality of light

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and either you have light or not

tame carbon
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@jaunty talon lol yes

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they did fiber verification with a laserpointer

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xD

jaunty talon
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or well, sure it could impact some, but there needs to be crazy amount of mux:es to do that kind of latency on first hop

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do you have same latency if you do a tcptraceroute?

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tcptraceroute 1.1.1.1 443

tame carbon
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not sure mtik can do that

jaunty talon
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from your pc then? :)

tame carbon
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ping is identical

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6.1ms

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and 6.15 for regular

jaunty talon
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but that could still be filtered / shaped

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tbh

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if they would do nasty stuff :D

tame carbon
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they do some bandwidth shaping

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but only above 250mbit

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Like, when I do a download

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it spikes to 500mbit/s

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and after half a second, starts rate limiting

jaunty talon
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ahh, but you run linux on your pc there right? apt install tcptraceroute && sudo tcptraceroute 1.1.1.1 443

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:)

tame carbon
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I did that already

jaunty talon
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also 6ms?

tame carbon
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 โœ˜ crystal@watomat ๎‚ฐ ~ ๎‚ฐ sudo tcptraceroute 1.1.1.1 443
[sudo] password for crystal: 
traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  router.REDACTED.nl (192.168.88.1)  0.331 ms  0.386 ms  0.489 ms
 2  r2.serv.dro.weserve.nl (46.243.152.3)  6.236 ms  6.176 ms  6.288 ms
 3  46.249.55.194 (46.249.55.194)  7.160 ms  7.897 ms^C
jaunty talon
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wonder what they're doing between you and the first hop :D

tame carbon
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Yeah I do too.. perhaps I can ring em up

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and ask

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they seem knowledgeable

primal ice
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some kind of tunnel?

jaunty talon
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you should

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then the tunnel would be between his router and the first hop

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and that's not the case

tame carbon
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not sure if that has anything to do with the access method

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because WAN is given via a vlan & dhcp

jaunty talon
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mpls tunnel could do that to a traceroute

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but you would see the first isp hop

tame carbon
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nah, all ping is ~7ms

jaunty talon
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yeah, but most isps uses mpls in core, which can give you jumps in traceroutes and ms

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depending on current traffic engineering in the network for that specific isp etc

tame carbon
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They only started doing FttH last year

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Previously they only did colo and DC hosting

jaunty talon
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if I was you, I would call and ask how can first hop be 6ms away

tame carbon
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Yeah, I might tomorrow

jaunty talon
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=)

tame carbon
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its 5pm, so business hours over

jaunty talon
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aye, time for beer

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you're correct

tame carbon
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I don't drink, but I got some lettuce

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common goal, unwind

jaunty talon
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:)

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I have been very productive today I feel, have ordered two new transit links and shut down an old transit

tame carbon
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lol u too?!

jaunty talon
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and ordered a new build cluster :D

tame carbon
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I just got out of a teams meeting with coworkers

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daily standup

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literally everyone be like: I had a fantastic day today

jaunty talon
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haha nice

tame carbon
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PO: lets keep this up next week, its now our new rule

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xD

waxen saddle
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Intriguing

tame carbon
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and they werent joking

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Im looking at the source rn

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its a 108MB package lol

waxen saddle
#

Princess Leah's words to Lord Vader come to mind when these things happen.

near charm
#

Could anyone here help me with a network adapter issue? Every time i start my computer, or it comes back from sleep mode, I have to disable, and enable my network card again. This has been going on for a while, and it works fine once its enabled again, but its kinda annoying and shouldnt be like that.

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I have unchecked the power issues (Allow windows do deactivate this device to save power), and i've reinstalled driver like a thousand times

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Windows sees the cable as a phone cable, but when disable and enable, it works just fine

vivid oriole
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Hello. I've contacted a lot of people and posted on the forums to no avail. My wireless adapter keeps acting up and disconnecting when I open apps or plug and unplug devices. Could there be any fix to this? I really don't want to reset my pc as my backup NAS storage is offline for now.

tame carbon
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@vivid oriole the solution is ethernet

vivid oriole
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Any solutions to my problem?

waxen scroll
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@tame carbon agree

wary sequoia
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since people in here probably know more, could i have some help in #tech-support

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it only happens on my pc so i think itโ€™s the wifi extender? but i tried a different wifi extender and had the exact same issue

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so are wifi extenders just bad for ethernet use?

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can you explain that in idiot terms, i donโ€™t understand entirely

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right i also moved house and the issue continued.

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right.

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so.. i need to implement round robin scheduling on my wifi extender for the issue to be fixed?

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and honestly i hoped i could have an ethernet cord directly from my router to my pc, but my parents said no

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i have a tp link ac1200 re305 right now. the connection on the extender itself stays up and running as my phone can still connect to it, but my pc just dies

stuck hawk
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When the hell are consumer multi-gigabit routers going to get cheaper?

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I'm wired up with cat 6 and 2.5 Gbe adaptors can be had for <$50, but you could buy 3 AC routers for the price of something that supports multi-gigabit

wary sequoia
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so thereโ€™s no way to fix this problem other than that?

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well great. thanks for the help. iโ€™ll be moving again and my pc will be right next to my router, so iโ€™ll be able to hard wire it this time

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i would get a power line adapter if my@room didnโ€™t only have two plug sockets and i was already using both of them

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they would work with socket splitters? ok

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iโ€™ll have a look, i donโ€™t think iโ€™ll bother getting one though

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ohhhhhhhh ok yeah

hollow marlin
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@wary sequoia How often is it dropping? Is it consistent?

wary sequoia
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i get you now

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Itโ€™s multiple times every day. I could be in a discord call or just play a game, the internet on my computer will die and i have to reset the ethernet adapter

stuck hawk
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Well for all I knew, there was someone other than Netgear coming out with a router that has at least one mutli-gigabit that I hadn't heard of. Guess the answer is "no, that's it"

wary sequoia
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i should probably say i have Virgin Media ISP running a third party tplink archer c50 router

stuck hawk
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I said router as that's more relevant to wired connections

wary sequoia
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virgin media sucks but their speeds are the best

hollow marlin
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@wary sequoia Note the times it drops to see a pattern. Im going to say its not wireless if other clients connected to the extender work as a single device drops.

wary sequoia
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A few weeks ago we would have the internet cut out at 11pm bang on for a good hour or so. Virgin Media is god awful

stuck hawk
#

ISPs are often a perpetual "the grass is always greener on the other side"

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I have Windstream in the south, and my ignorant rural neighbors are begging for Comcast, not knowing how much of a nightmare they can be

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The potential nightmare isn't just reliability, but also customer service, data caps, "slamming", etc.

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That too, though they claim they don't allow public hotspots from homes - Only public places

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Oh no doubt its on every modem, its just a matter of whether Comcast actually uses it for public purposes for every modem

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Ah, I was thinking of non-customer access to modem APs

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Because xfinity/comcast was like "its free for everyone because covid"

thick minnow
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can i use my router as a NIC

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i dont have wifi card in my pc

thick minnow
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im new this

waxen saddle
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The Router/Switch wouldn't be able to be used as the Network Interface Card on your PC.

waxen saddle
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You still need a NIC to interface with the network cable. The network cable would then connect to the Router/Switch/BridgedAP

thick minnow
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my router is a tp link archer c50

waxen saddle
#

And your PC doesnโ€™t have an Ethernet port? Most PCโ€™s have one.

thick minnow
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i do have one

waxen saddle
#

Then you should be able to plug an Ethernet cable in and run it to a LAN port on your router. ๐Ÿ™‚

thick minnow
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i did, it detects it but it doesnt give me wifi

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im stuck with a crappy usb wifi stick

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can i get that in newbie speech

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i dont know much about networking

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fair

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yep

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so far so good

primal ice
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i'm wondering why he's trying to get wifi when he has ethernet?

thick minnow
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i dont

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my modem is in another room and im using a crappy wifi stick

primal ice
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i do have one
@thick minnow i did, it detects it but it doesnt give me wifi'

thick minnow
#

OH

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yea on my mb

thorny vector
#

@topaz quarry I've seen plenty of netbooks/smaller laptops without any rj45

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I antcipate it'll become more common as usb-c/thunderbolt become more common, as we descend into dongle heck

fleet copper
#

Dongle life.........

little schooner
#

@waxen scroll I don't like writing papers in my internship class because the internship teacher doesn't let me write about what I do on the job. Half of the time, I am finding myself having to throw in a lot of extra detail just to fill the page requirement. I think there should only be one paper due for the class and the rest should be graded on job performance from supervisors/managers.

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The school system should adjust for the times.

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Last paper I wrote about the hiring process

waxen scroll
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hmmmm?

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@little schooner i never did internship

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i was like "does the job pay market rate? no? pass."

little schooner
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heh well this one does pay so I am happy for that

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They said it will even go up another $5 on graduation

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it stops at masters degree

waxen scroll
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

little schooner
#

if you have a doctorate, HR told me they'll say you're overqualified and ask you to look somewhere else

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like where you work for the big bucks @waxen scroll

waxen scroll
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if i was hiring entry level and saw a masters i would be like ๐Ÿค” nahhh

little schooner
#

of course many places don't work like that

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and base on experience instead

waxen scroll
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if i was hiring mid level and saw 10 certs i would be like ๐Ÿค” nahh

little schooner
#

@waxen scroll I have under 10 certs but a lot of them are expired now

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so maybe really only 3 now

waxen scroll
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i have 1 cert and thats only because the company was giving them out free, just had to study a little

little schooner
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ccna, comptia and microsoft

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if they ever say there is extra budget to provide me free training, i want to do something with cloud technology

waxen scroll
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my cert is cloud lol

little schooner
#

I believe i'd learn it quick

waxen scroll
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i was supposed to get the next step up, but a lot of the questions were topics I would have to do tons of study on, so i failed it and didnt go back

little schooner
#

well whats important is that you're successful at this point

waxen scroll
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there were AD/Identity questions, application compliance questions, and stuff like that. im not a server person

little schooner
#

I see myself more as a server person.

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I am not interfacing with network gear as much as when i was in netacademy

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nothing ever breaks in the classroom

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or even at work

waxen scroll
#

you wont either, you need to be working at a company with like 2,000 people or more before it gets that way

little schooner
#

yeah sounds right

waxen scroll
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preferably you go so large that the network team is silo'd

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too small and you'll be doing operations, engineering, etc. you really dont want that

little schooner
#

thats a good way to think about it

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i see

waxen scroll
#

the varying skills you use at work will be a mindfuck and you wont like it

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one minute you have to troubleshoot and replace a users patch cable, next is engineer a new datacenter segment

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its crap

little schooner
#

thats such a drastic shift

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yeah that can get tiring

waxen scroll
#

yep. so dont work smaller companies!

little schooner
#

go big.... thats the lesson

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There insurance companies around with networking and other ops

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maybe I can get into those

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employee count is well over 20k

waxen scroll
#

the next hurdle is siloing network technologies. it sounds sexy to touch firewall, load balancer, etc... but its really not

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each technology has its own BS to deal with and can get complex. its another distraction

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trust me when i say with firewall you do nothing but change rules, its boring and a pain in the ass if you are working all the other areas

#

its great to have an ops job where you get to manage and troubleshoot it, but not for long

#

once you do engineering you dont want to touch all

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you'll get bitter about touching hardware and cables eventually too

#

the sexy wears off after a few years

little schooner
#

the unfortunate truth. makes sense, yeah.

waxen scroll
#

last few jobs i just open tickets and someone else does loading dock, rack and stack, plus cables

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once you get that its hard to go back

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i'd hire you if i could but job only wants senior now

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lol

loud anchor
#

Does anyone recommend which brand I should choose for a mesh wifi setup. Currently have 500/500. I was thinking amazon eero for google

tall pagoda
#

TP link is always great value for money.

tame carbon
#

@tall pagoda meh

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not really

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tplink sells crap hardware

#

I've had their wifi routers crash on me so often

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and they usually die after 2-3 years

#
#

this is a home router.

nova igloo
#

Why you hate Ubiquiti so much? @tame carbon I'm curious

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even the Edge series

tame carbon
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Overpriced

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and ubiquity sets itself up as "enterprise"

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while they really aren't

nova igloo
#

oh u mean the hardware aren't enterprise grade

#

BTW, can single mode bidi and wdm work together

tame carbon
#

@nova igloo no

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you need special WDM transceivers

nova igloo
#

wait lemme show u something

tame carbon
#

WDM uses smaller channels

nova igloo
#

no need modules

tame carbon
#

That's a passive filter

nova igloo
#

aren't WDM design for long range high bandwidth purpose

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so we can get multi gigabit through long range on 1 single mode

tame carbon
#

WDM allows you to stack multiple fiber links on the same fiber

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but the channels themselves are much smaller

#

You still need fiber transceivers, specific to the WDM setup you have

nova igloo
#

yeah I still need a sfp+ module for my router right

tame carbon
#

If you look at this product page

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these are DWDM transceivers

nova igloo
#

oh I need specific channel module

tame carbon
#

they all have their own wavelength yeah

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this is why bidi wont work

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@nova igloo bidi is usually 1270nm and 1330nm

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but DWDM channels are like 0.4nm wide

nova igloo
#

yeah different colors of lights

tame carbon
#

yeah

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but with DWDM, you break that range up

nova igloo
#

lasers

tame carbon
#

into many many smaller channels

nova igloo
#

yeah more sensitive to the colors

tame carbon
#

yep

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this is also why its more expensive

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because the laser wavelength has to be more accurate

#

there's also CWDM

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which has larger channels

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and its generally cheaper to deploy

#

for home use of fiber optics, bidi is just easier

#

FttH is often BiDi too

#

but fiber transit on the backbone

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is all DWDM

nova igloo
#

can't imagine the size of the 96core fiber router

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or even more than that

tame carbon
#

It delivers 80 Tbps of system capacity and supports up to 800 100GbE interfaces, 320 200GbE interfaces, or 160 400GbE interfaces in a single chassis when used with the Modular Port Concentrator 11E (MPC11E) line card.

nova igloo
#

haha juniper

tame carbon
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Its the size of a full 48U rack lol

nova igloo
#

BTW SC twice the price if LC fibers

#

Its the size of a full 48U rack lol
@tame carbon that's huge

nova igloo
#

not sure are there juniper authorized seller

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in Malaysia

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actually we are using router or switch connect to the isp

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I think its switch

tall pagoda
#

tplink sells crap hardware
@tame carbon You mean Arris sells crap

nova igloo
#

@tame carbon You mean Arris sells crap
@tall pagoda Are Arris rebranded of TP-Link ?

tall pagoda
#

They are different companies, Arris is American and makes DOCSIS (Fibre-Coax hybrid) modems to end customers mostly in Germany, Belgium, Netherlands and the UK with garbage Intel Puma 6 chips.
And TP Link is a Chinese manufacturer from Shenzhen and is worldwide known for network equipment for both home and professional use

nova igloo
#

Oh i see

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I think it's not crap, its just because their hardware cant chase us

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i mean we are more heavy user

thick minnow
#

LOL

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i have 200 mbps download

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5 upload

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thats the max i can do

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i want gigabit

tall pagoda
#

200 mbps is nice, but 5 upload can better.

#

I have 250/25. And i'm happy with it

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(Picture showing ping to my server in Zwolle, Netherlands (60km away))

waxen scroll
#

god that is bad

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ive got 12ms at 550km

tame carbon
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@tall pagoda I'm on weserve fiber, and I get around 7ms

heady sentinel
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Does anyone know what any of these mean?

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My wifi cut out will I was in a meeting....

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There is also this

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It frequently does this

waxen saddle
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Cable modem?

heady sentinel
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Yep

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It's an Arris SB8200 if that helps

waxen saddle
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Try turning off the Cable modem for at least 30 seconds, then turn it back on. Then power cycle your router. This will allow the Cable modem to re-bind to the best available communication channels and might help with communication issues.

heady sentinel
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This frequently happens and I have tried that before... Any other suggestions?

waxen saddle
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Do you know how to log on to the cable modem's webpage?

heady sentinel
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Yep

waxen saddle
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Go ahead and log on to it, then check this website. It's pretty helpful in helping you read Cable Modem's status information: https://pickmymodem.com/signal-levels-docsis-3-03-1-cable-modem/

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If there's too much noise or too high (or low) of power for dBmV, that would be a key indicator of a potential communication issue and something your ISP would have to resolve.

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Corrected and Uncorrectables are reset every time you restart your cable modem, That can be an indicator of ISP communication issues as well. Ideally, you'd have zeroes for those two columns.

heady sentinel
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Hm

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My un correctables seem to be high

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And I just reset the modem around 4 hours ago

waxen saddle
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Whoah. Yea. That's pretty bad then.

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I last reset mine yesterday morning and I have all zeroes except for 1 corrected.

heady sentinel
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The SNR value seem to be high too

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...

waxen saddle
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I would definitely reach out to your ISP about that.

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Keep it high-level jargon too. Like, "My modem appears to be having significant communication or line issues"

heady sentinel
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I will try that

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Thanks

waxen saddle
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NP mate. Good luck!

heady sentinel
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Also do you know what's happening with channel 2 there?

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0hz

waxen saddle
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I was about to comment I've never seen a not-locked channel

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It looks like it's having such bad communication that it can't even bind the channel.

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Usually by the time you can reach your modem config page, it has already bound itself to all the channels.

heady sentinel
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Also channel 1 has "other" in it's modulation

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And a few corrected errors

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2,674,400,266

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How is it possible I have almost 3 billion corrected errors in 4 hours

waxen saddle
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I'm not familiar with the "other" modulation. lol.

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Tons of retries I'd assume.

heady sentinel
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My upstream Db also is low according to that guide

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Welp the cable company will have fun with this

waxen saddle
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lolol

exotic crown
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My computer keeps on saying "no internet, secured." I reset my network, pc and router but no luck. Can someone help me?

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I can use some apps with wifi but some don't work

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i dont know why im able to use wifi when it says no internet, secured

peak cloak
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Wifi means you are connected to your WLAN, but you can't access the internet

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that means your router (Ex: 192.168.1.1) is reachable, but devices on the internet aren't (Ex: google.com or 9.9.9.9)

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wifi != internet

clear igloo
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A(Area)*

thick minnow
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I have like 5 computers in my room that need internet hooked up to them, 1 being a main pc, another being a server, and the rest would barely use the internet (if that matters). Could I get an ethernet switch and hook them all up to it?

peak cloak
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yeah, that's the purpose of a switch

stone kite
full sigil
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Could be just the amount of wear they have

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One may be newer or in far better condition.

dreamy cipher
unborn sluice
nova igloo
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sudo

uncut fox
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I have a question about trying to run a Minecraft server. If I have a setup like what the picture shows, and I run the server on the PC on the left, will the firewall protect all devices that are below?

dusty osprey
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From the way its set up, no.

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If you have a firewall and its connected to the "PC" in this case then it should only apply its rules to the PC

uncut fox
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What would be a better way?

primal ice
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router to firewall to switch to everything else.

dusty osprey
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Yes, that.

nova igloo
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And dont forget u r still not protected from DDoS

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or even DoS

misty terrace
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Disk Operating System

primal ice
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heh

strange lintel
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Isnt DDoS and DoS the same?

clear igloo
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DoS is me send you tons of data to overwhelm you
DDoS is hundreds (thousands) of people sending you data to overwhelm you

waxen scroll
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@clear igloo hi i want to run a remote desktop server. what do?

primal ice
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samba active directory. jk

solar kestrel
hollow marlin
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You're getting very close to the limit. Just a single bad termination might cause it to flap once a load is on it

solar kestrel
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That cable is to a Cambium AP at the top of a tower. Its running through 2 surge protectors (one on top, one on bottom). Could that be the problem?

hollow marlin
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Wait is it also using PoE?

solar kestrel
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Yes, but the POE injector is about 5 foot from the switch. When I look at the AP, it shows that it has never lost power. (Uptime is still counting)

hollow marlin
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PoE cannot reliably run at 100m depending on power required. But if its going through surge protectors that can be a problem. If PoE does not drop but interface does I would say either bad termination of the inner pairs or the surge introducing too much noise

solar kestrel
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That would make sense if it was getting too much noise. I'm having that issue at another site where an FM Transmitter is overpowering the cable. Also I've had plenty of issues because of bad terminations. I look into those 2 options being the issue. Thanks for the Help!

waxen scroll
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Nine juan juan asking juan for his emergency

solar kestrel
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That made me laugh too LOLLsss

silver needle
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What would be the best way for me to get a static Ipv4 address for my homelab without having to rent one from my ISP. Dynamic DNS won't cut it as some services I run require an IP address. I'm looking to do this as cheaply as possibly either via Google Cloud or AWS or if there is some other way.

ornate jungle
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If your ISP won't give you a static IP, then you have to use Dynamic DNS providers...

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Renting a cloud server isn't going to give you a static IP for your home connection.

silver needle
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Reverse Proxies exist...

waxen scroll
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it can with a more complex setup, but im not about to go down that hole

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plus some providers its against the rules to do so anyway

ornate jungle
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Yup, but a reverse proxy isn't a static IP - it's a viable option though.

waxen scroll
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like for azure i believe you still arent allowed to tunnel internet through them

silver needle
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So maybe a VPS?

waxen scroll
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the servers can use azure internet but not outsiders

silver needle
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I'm fine with setting everything up myself just some game servers I want to host require a static Ipv4

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so if thats someone connecting to a VPS and that traffic then gets routed back to my home then

waxen scroll
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the high level is you need to make the VPS act as a gateway, which isnt too hard on any linux, then you need openvpn, then you need to tell your (non-consumer) router to NAT through it. It's going to be a double NAT though unless you want to pump all your traffic from home to the VPS.

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note: I have no guide or anything. this is just networking 301. you'll have to figure it out

silver needle
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no worries, I'm already familiar with PFsense ect

waxen scroll
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reason for second NAT is because your home router will have a default route already for all your home stuff.... when traffic hits the VPS nat #1 translates it to your openvpn subnet which contains the home router. NAT #2 is the ovpn IP of the home router. So your server will see source as the ovpn and respond to it while your other network devices are using the default route to the internet with no tunnel

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im a little tired, i think i covered it but if not its damn close

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or if you install the ovpn client directly on your server at home, perhaps you can skip nat #2, but that means all traffic from the server will exit the VPS

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anyway