#networking | Linus Tech Tips | Page 231

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 5:58 AM

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i mean it's a simple solution

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just create internet neighberhoods

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someone misbehaves

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kick them out

unborn sluice Oct 31, 2020, 5:58 AM

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block it at the edge.
Something offends you with social media? block it

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T_pepecomfy

waxen saddle Oct 31, 2020, 5:59 AM

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But I'd also set up Multicast TV stations

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 5:59 AM

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i strongly believe in homerunhd self-hosted solutions

unborn sluice Oct 31, 2020, 5:59 AM

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As long as the ISP provides
-Netflix
-Linux repos/distros
-Games
-All the otherr crap

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 5:59 AM

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oh netflix rarely leaves my local zone either

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like i did traceroutes for a lot of the netflix traffic

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it doesn't even leave my county

unborn sluice Oct 31, 2020, 6:00 AM

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My ISP don't provide Games cache

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But somehow downloading visual studio crap is fast

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 6:00 AM

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i feel like the reason why Gigaverse has no bandwidth limit

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is because At&t heavily invested in cache servers

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Microsoft has so many edge servers

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even like most of the DNS servers

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i either get pensacola which is still in my state

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or i get the austin DNS servers

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quad9 has stuff really close to me so they happen to be faster than cloudflare somehow

waxen saddle Oct 31, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Speaking of Microsoft Edge Caching Servers, has anyone been able to confirm or deny if they run Linux?

unborn sluice Oct 31, 2020, 6:03 AM

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Probably Linux

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 6:03 AM

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what azure?

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is there a new thing?

unborn sluice Oct 31, 2020, 6:03 AM

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Windows already wants pepople to beta test their linux

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fucking "insider"

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it still "free qa"

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 6:03 AM

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lmao

waxen saddle Oct 31, 2020, 6:03 AM

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There's a theory that Windows 10 downloads are delivered from Linux servers. So far, I haven't been able to find anyone who can say "nope, it's served by a super-hardened Windows IIS server"

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 6:04 AM

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so what I can tell you

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is the engineers in Redmond Washington

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deeply desire Windows to be a WINE distro

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because they're sick of windows

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and not even their hard core engineers think IIS is ever a good idea

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herb sutter makes windows patches on ubuntu

waxen saddle Oct 31, 2020, 6:05 AM

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lol

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 6:06 AM

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so i can neither confirm nor deny any allegation that Microsoft may or may not be using Linux to prop up their core business model

waxen saddle Oct 31, 2020, 6:06 AM

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😛

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 6:06 AM

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but you can take those statements and reach your own conclusion

waxen saddle Oct 31, 2020, 6:08 AM

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I've been considering virtualizing my main rig so that I can have me and my wife share it.

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Proxmox is a great solution

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join the club

waxen saddle Oct 31, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Honestly, having 2 different physical computers is a bit overkill, but combining us on one machine is an even more overkill project.

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lol, I personally use XCP-NG, but i've played around with Proxmox as well.

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 6:09 AM

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two GPUs, two USB controllers

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oh no xcp-ng has clearly worse performance than proxmox

waxen saddle Oct 31, 2020, 6:09 AM

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It does?

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 6:09 AM

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i would take smartOS over xcp-ng for it's main use case

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which is technically better security

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yea xcp-ng has much more hardened virtualization vectors

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it literally runs slower on my hardware than proxmox

waxen saddle Oct 31, 2020, 6:10 AM

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I wasn't crazy about smartOS locking itself to the physical host.

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 6:10 AM

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naw, smartOS is for hard core people

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it's great for ultra performance, reliability, and security

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but it's hard core

waxen saddle Oct 31, 2020, 6:11 AM

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I haven't noticed any performance issues with xcp-ng. Actually, I have 4 VM's running on it right now and total CPU usage is around 7% - I'm actually quite pleased.

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 6:12 AM

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idk, it's super wackadoodle for me

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we all have our preferences

waxen saddle Oct 31, 2020, 6:12 AM

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lol.

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 6:12 AM

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i'll try it agian soon maybe

waxen saddle Oct 31, 2020, 6:13 AM

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I chose it for 2 reasons: 1) It's similar to Citrix, which is a skill I want to work on for future hiring prospects. 2) Free live-migration of VM's.

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Citrix is dying

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if you want future prospects use VMWare ESXi

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it runs better

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and has cooler features

waxen saddle Oct 31, 2020, 6:13 AM

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You're either the same person to say that or the 2nd person to tell me that. Though that may be true in the market (I haven't looked), it's certainly not true in my workplace.

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 6:14 AM

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the problem with Citrix is while I was applying there and I was in the soflo office

waxen saddle Oct 31, 2020, 6:14 AM

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WE use ESXi too at work. And I am MUCH higher skilled with ESXi than any other Hypervisor. I love it.

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 6:14 AM

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they tried to convince me Linux containers are a fad

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and they'll go away soon

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the management is gun hoe on doing the citrix version of application delivery

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i've never empoyed vSAN but i've been informed it's amazing

waxen saddle Oct 31, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Citrix focuses on end-user application delivery. Docker containers are a close, but completely different.

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 6:16 AM

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docker and Linux Containers aren't the same thing

waxen saddle Oct 31, 2020, 6:16 AM

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The fact that whoever you were talking to conflated the two isn't a good sign. Not to mention the whole "fad" comment. lol.

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ah. Sorry. My fault.

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 6:16 AM

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docker just uses a default specified runtime and a daemon thread

waxen saddle Oct 31, 2020, 6:16 AM

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I've been doing a LOT with Docker lately and it just slipped out.

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 6:16 AM

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you can specify any runtime you want :)

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lol we gucci

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like one of Citrix's mainstays is delivery applications through their system

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doing that with LInux containers is very easy

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you just use the appriopriate runtime

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if it's something like onlyoffice (eg office stuff) you deploy nextcloud/onlyoffice etc

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if you want an actual GUI application, then you use hardware accelerated linux containers

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either with something like the nvidia-docker-2 stuff with the nvidia-runtime

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and literally use GPUs in your containers and delivery remote desktop experiences

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or some other set of services, and provide it usually through a web portal of some sort

waxen saddle Oct 31, 2020, 6:18 AM

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I saw something about that in a security-camera platform I was checking out as a docker container. Fascinating stuff.

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 6:19 AM

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LInux Containers can be viewed as a super set of what Citrix tries to accomplish

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I do HW Emby/Jellyfin stuff at home with the nvidia-runtime

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it's honestly amazing

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installing applications hasn't been easier

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i'm making a cool SIMD/Tensor Core accelerated security camera platform for my house

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because A, i want experience with tensor cores

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B, that mail man isn't allowed to get away

waxen saddle Oct 31, 2020, 6:20 AM

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LOL

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 6:20 AM

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the house is being rigged with some unifi cameras

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because they all support RTSP streams

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so i can use the Unifi management while I create another management system

waxen saddle Oct 31, 2020, 6:21 AM

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Nice. Those things are pricy though.

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 6:21 AM

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it's true

waxen saddle Oct 31, 2020, 6:21 AM

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Woops. Bed time. g2g. nice chatting with you.

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 6:21 AM

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beez!

nova igloo Oct 31, 2020, 7:39 AM

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Using multiple Internet connections as one is a thing if you're using the same ISP. It's usually referred to as a "trunk" and requires special equipment on both sides of the connection. It's not something I've ever seen done with consumer-grade cable modem infrastructure.
@waxen saddle Nono, i mean 1 fiber cable but 2 router/modem

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 7:41 AM

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you can't use two modems on the ISP line

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modems just authenticate

nova igloo Oct 31, 2020, 7:41 AM

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keith barker, eli the it guy
@topaz quarry Whos tht

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 7:41 AM

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people who do this for a living

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and do tutorials

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go use the youtubes

nova igloo Oct 31, 2020, 7:42 AM

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i thought u mean someone here hehe

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 7:43 AM

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they could be in this discord

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laughing in the background

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Eli and LInus know about each other

nova igloo Oct 31, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Oh rlly

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 7:43 AM

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pretty sure they message each other too

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eli makes fun of LInus's sub bar office networking environment

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Linus go you fuck

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the process continues

mortal stirrup Oct 31, 2020, 7:44 AM

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uhm, my pfsense is getting another wan ip adress then my local computer think he has, wtf?

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 7:45 AM

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good question

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is pfsense showing a local IP address as it's WAN?

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so 192.168.x.x

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or 10.0.0.x or something like that

mortal stirrup Oct 31, 2020, 7:45 AM

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no, wan adress

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 7:46 AM

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so you're positive it's a public IP

mortal stirrup Oct 31, 2020, 7:46 AM

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100.64.122.xx and when i google whats my ip is it say 155.4.221.xxx

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 7:46 AM

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i'm just going to assume you don't have a VPN on

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can i just assume that

mortal stirrup Oct 31, 2020, 7:46 AM

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yes, i can access my servers from the ip pfsense say

unborn sluice Oct 31, 2020, 7:47 AM

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monkaHmm

mortal stirrup Oct 31, 2020, 7:47 AM

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so my computer think he has another wan ipadress

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 7:47 AM

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do you have an IPV4 block for some reason?

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instead of a single IPV4 DHCP address

mortal stirrup Oct 31, 2020, 7:48 AM

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nope

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ill try reboot computer, 1 min guys

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 7:48 AM

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@unborn sluice don't you wish you could get free IPV4 addresses?

unborn sluice Oct 31, 2020, 7:49 AM

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is it that time again to say that ipv6 is better

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 7:49 AM

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oh look

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you're catching on

unborn sluice Oct 31, 2020, 7:49 AM

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catrave

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I wasn't just

mortal stirrup Oct 31, 2020, 7:49 AM

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lets see now

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 7:50 AM

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so instead of using a web browser

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just use nslookup

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like do nslookup www.google.com

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see which public ip address it goes through

mortal stirrup Oct 31, 2020, 7:52 AM

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that only tells my pihole dns ip

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 7:53 AM

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i lied

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traceroute www.google.com

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do that instead

nova igloo Oct 31, 2020, 7:56 AM

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Maybe it's internal IP of ISP?

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 7:56 AM

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he's not suffering from cgnat

nova igloo Oct 31, 2020, 7:57 AM

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In Malaysia they give internal ip for the clients, they only give DYNAMIC Public Ip if we request

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 7:57 AM

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this is called cgnat

unborn sluice Oct 31, 2020, 7:57 AM

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CGNAT is on the ISP level

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not country

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except if your gov controls the internet

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monkaS

mortal stirrup Oct 31, 2020, 7:57 AM

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Correct, i have no CGNAT, had that problem before :)

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@topaz quarry https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tWtjf2cvbd/

nova igloo Oct 31, 2020, 7:58 AM

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Na, because our ISP dont want to waste public IP

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 7:58 AM

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your ISP is stupid

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they should just use ipv6

unborn sluice Oct 31, 2020, 7:58 AM

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I mean CGNAT is built because we are running out of ipv4

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wdym "waste"

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 7:58 AM

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running out of ipv6

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can't

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go check yourself

unborn sluice Oct 31, 2020, 7:59 AM

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wrong auto correct

nova igloo Oct 31, 2020, 7:59 AM

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because they sell the public + static IPv4 address

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They sell 5 Static IP address for 125$

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 7:59 AM

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so 1 is your router

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and 3 is your default gateawy

nova igloo Oct 31, 2020, 8:00 AM

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we use pppoe

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 8:00 AM

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this is terrible

nova igloo Oct 31, 2020, 8:01 AM

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lol

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But this doesnt affect internet speed rite

unborn sluice Oct 31, 2020, 8:02 AM

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linusSmirk

mortal stirrup Oct 31, 2020, 8:03 AM

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@topaz quarry what is "Relinquish Lease" in pfsense?

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 8:03 AM

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gives back the DHCP lease

mortal stirrup Oct 31, 2020, 8:03 AM

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in Status / Interfaces

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 8:03 AM

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renew asks for a new DHCP lease

mortal stirrup Oct 31, 2020, 8:04 AM

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yeah, i did that earlier today, cause i could not access my server. our internet was dead yesterday and i thought somthing has happen with my ip

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and i got a new ip, but my local computers does not know that, lol

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they still think they on the old ip

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this is so wierd.. maybe ill try reboot my router..

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 8:06 AM

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idk why you're spooked

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you have a public IP

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and it's routing

mortal stirrup Oct 31, 2020, 8:08 AM

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well, my ddns is updating with wrong ip (the old)

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 8:08 AM

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excellent

mortal stirrup Oct 31, 2020, 8:08 AM

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yeah, so cant access my lan if it does update :>

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 8:08 AM

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so do you genuinely get two different ipv4 gateways from pfsense

unborn sluice Oct 31, 2020, 8:08 AM

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time to reinstall windows

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 8:08 AM

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and your computer

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so like traceroute provides different gateways

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on pfsense

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and your computer?

mortal stirrup Oct 31, 2020, 8:11 AM

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not sure

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 8:12 AM

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so when you do traceroute

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the thing right after your first hop

mortal stirrup Oct 31, 2020, 8:12 AM

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doin it on my pfsense now

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 8:12 AM

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is your default gateway

nova igloo Oct 31, 2020, 8:12 AM

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How BGP Anycast prevent receiving the same data twice

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 8:12 AM

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it doesn't

mortal stirrup Oct 31, 2020, 8:12 AM

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https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yS8csNG4Tz/

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 8:15 AM

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so on your router the first hop is your default gateway

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idk why 1 is being bleeped out

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on my stuff 1 is my default gateway on my routers

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and on my computers 1 is self

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and 2 is default gateway

nova igloo Oct 31, 2020, 8:16 AM

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btw why theres no internal ip

mortal stirrup Oct 31, 2020, 8:16 AM

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Source Address is "any" on my pfsense traceroute

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should i use LAN?

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 8:16 AM

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i didn't set anything for traceroute

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i just ran traceroute

mortal stirrup Oct 31, 2020, 8:17 AM

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yeah, me too

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i contacted my ISP now.. maybe they know whats goin on

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i mean, i havent done anything

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 8:17 AM

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yea 1 on my OpnSense install is my default gateway

mortal stirrup Oct 31, 2020, 8:17 AM

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it might be some configuration, but not that i know of

topaz quarry Oct 31, 2020, 8:18 AM

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your setup is whackadoodles

mortal stirrup Oct 31, 2020, 8:18 AM

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yeah

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well, i have to leave. thnx for tryin :)

nova igloo Oct 31, 2020, 8:23 AM

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oh no...

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lost connection from my Server

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misconfigured the iptable

dark kayak Oct 31, 2020, 9:10 AM

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lol, that old trick

snow crane Oct 31, 2020, 10:32 AM

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Hi, I am trying to add, artificially, a bandwidth cap and additional latency to a server to simulate a WAN setup.
I was attemtping to use tc qdisc rules + wondershaper for bandwidth, but those two appear to be incompatible.

unborn sluice Oct 31, 2020, 10:54 AM

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QoS the server?

tame carbon Oct 31, 2020, 10:54 AM

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morning folks

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somehow slept 12 hours O.o

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@snow crane you need a queue

snow crane Oct 31, 2020, 10:57 AM

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Doing an experimental evaluation of a protocal. But I got a 10gb lan setup

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so I want to make it a 100mb setup with 20/100ms of latency

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What do you mean with a queue?

unborn sluice Oct 31, 2020, 11:08 AM

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get a 100m cable for your server

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pepoJuice

tame carbon Oct 31, 2020, 11:11 AM

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@snow crane not sure how your gear does this

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but on my mikrotiks, this is done with queues

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https://i.imgur.com/UsAIp1l.png

Imgur

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and artificially inflating latency

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idk

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not a typical feature of networking gear, cus it defeats the purpose

snow crane Oct 31, 2020, 11:13 AM

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I don't have physical access

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it's a research cluster

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I used wondershaper for the bandwidth restriction

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(only cmd access too)

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but wondershaper cancels my tc qdisc rules

tame carbon Oct 31, 2020, 11:14 AM

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not sure what you are testing

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but for mobile purposes, and browsers

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chrome has a builttin feature to simulate bad connections

snow crane Oct 31, 2020, 11:15 AM

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I'm testing a consensus protocol

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nothing web based

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it's backend

tame carbon Oct 31, 2020, 11:15 AM

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https://medium.com/@docler/network-issues-simulation-how-to-test-against-bad-network-conditions-b28f651d8a96

Medium

Network issues simulation: How to test against bad network conditions

Written By Mikhail Bakulin

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This article suggests the use of the network emulator

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built into the kernel

snow crane Oct 31, 2020, 11:16 AM

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I used tc for latency yes

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but it doesn't allow bandwidth

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😄

tame carbon Oct 31, 2020, 11:17 AM

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Yeah, that is for latency

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bandwidth, you'd have to manage from the router

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with a queue

snow crane Oct 31, 2020, 11:26 AM

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I don't have router access though

tame carbon Oct 31, 2020, 12:08 PM

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shucks

daring ibex Oct 31, 2020, 2:07 PM

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hi! anyone know why error 2000 appears on twitch player on chrome?

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deactivated adblocker

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and from time to time still appears (internet stable)

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will screenshot when reappears, pressed f5

waxen scroll Oct 31, 2020, 2:54 PM

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nope, but their ads are redic

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that feel when you want to check what your favorite streamers are doing really quick, oh. 30 second unskippable ads

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never mind then!

hallow nimbus Oct 31, 2020, 2:56 PM

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XD

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You guys get ads on twitch ?

waxen scroll Oct 31, 2020, 2:57 PM

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for some reason. i guess the adblockers dont stop them

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i started getting ads this year

hallow nimbus Oct 31, 2020, 2:57 PM

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I never get ads LOL

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Hmm weird

waxen scroll Oct 31, 2020, 2:58 PM

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i dont know the conditions for when ads show up, maybe you're just not doing something like watching specific people

hallow nimbus Oct 31, 2020, 2:58 PM

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I only watch specific people 😂

waxen scroll Oct 31, 2020, 3:01 PM

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like im trying to find one to link you but its showing me no ads right now

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it just does what it wants

hallow nimbus Oct 31, 2020, 3:08 PM

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twitch being twitch kek

mental topaz Oct 31, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Does somebody by any chance have the autonomous firmware images for the 1040/1140 (the labels say one thing, the internet another????) series Cisco APs flying about?

One of mine is not up-to-date and Cisco removed the images from their site linuth

hollow marlin Oct 31, 2020, 4:10 PM

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@mental topaz Your best bet is to email Cisco and sometimes if the right tech gets the email will send you the firmware. But if anything fails you're out of luck

little schooner Oct 31, 2020, 4:40 PM

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@waxen scroll I was trying to do an iperf3 test with my surface laptop using centos live environment and it tripped my secure boot and locked me out of my windows OS. Worse yet, it looked like I didn't backup the bitlocker recovery key for the surface laptop locally on a flashdrive or something. I was worried a little bit but then I remembered that the server at site 2 had a huge collection of bitlocker recovery keys saved in text files. Hoping that my key is in there, i went to site 2 and logged into with supermicro ipmi since I didn't have a 2nd monitor handy. I looked through the hard drive of the supermicro server and did a file explorer search. Low and behold, exactly one match for my recovery idenitifier came up. I double-clicked to open the file and it was a bunch of gibberish and no recovery codes. Then, I quickly realized that it had the letters "PDF" in the gibberish text. I renamed the file extension from .txt to .pdf and it finally loaded my recovery key. I went back home to enter the recovery key in and it is correct and surface laptop loads windows again! disaster averted thanks to backups!

Now, I am keeping three copies of all recovery keys to prevent this disaster from happening again.

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and yes, iperf3 on windows is terrible and not as good as running it on a linux box

hollow marlin Oct 31, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Which people blame the network stack but iperf2 in windows was just fine. For a gig windows is fine but any higher is linux all the way

peak cloak Oct 31, 2020, 7:31 PM

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thoughts on the nix package manager?

thorny vector Oct 31, 2020, 10:17 PM

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@hollow marlin Not quite true multi-gig, but I have been impressed by server 2016's use of a LAGG connection

little schooner Oct 31, 2020, 10:21 PM

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So far, the engenius 4x4 ax access point i got from amazon is working quite well. They sent me HW version 1.0 though. They have a v2 one that has increased performance and reliability.

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Hoping that amazon sends me the correct replacement.

waxen scroll Oct 31, 2020, 10:32 PM

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yikes

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ubnt store would never let me down like that

rich oracle Oct 31, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Any good tutorial on NGINX or APACHE2 REVERESE PROXY PLEASE !!!

thorny vector Oct 31, 2020, 11:03 PM

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What do you need to know?

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@rich oracle

rich oracle Oct 31, 2020, 11:06 PM

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@thorny vector How to add SSL from certbot with letsencrypt

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https redirect

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aka upgrade

thorny vector Oct 31, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Where do you have the certs saved?

little schooner Oct 31, 2020, 11:07 PM

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The interface is good enough but no where near the fancy looks like ubnt

rich oracle Oct 31, 2020, 11:07 PM

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my certs are saved in /etc/letsencrypt/example.com

thorny vector Oct 31, 2020, 11:09 PM

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listen 443 ssl;
server_name example.com;
ssl_certificate /etc/letsencrypt/example.crt;
ssl_certificate_key /etc/letsencrypt/example.key;
ssl_protocols TLSv1 TLSv1.1 TLSv1.2;
location / {
proxy_pass http://local.webapp;
}

rich oracle Oct 31, 2020, 11:09 PM

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i have a webapp i made (stupid game me and my friends used to play in high school - tic tac toe but for 4 people) and i wonna make it accessable from cutomdomain.com with also www to apex redirect and i just cant make it work with https....

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its too complicated for me to understand or i might have been burned down from coding it last 8h

thorny vector Oct 31, 2020, 11:12 PM

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@rich oracle That aught to work for ya

rich oracle Oct 31, 2020, 11:13 PM

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hahahah that one wont work since APACHE TOMCAT UP MY ***

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http headers....

thorny vector Oct 31, 2020, 11:13 PM

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so just use nginx.

rich oracle Oct 31, 2020, 11:14 PM

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i think that i have to realax for today

thorny vector Oct 31, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Nginx headers are pretty easy too.

📎 headers.PNG

rich oracle Oct 31, 2020, 11:15 PM

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will save it for later thanks

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I should have wrote it in php...

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damn it i am stupid af

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Would powerline only work over a LAN network or can it work a as a bridge between a modem and a router?

ornate jungle Nov 1, 2020, 3:58 AM

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Powerline AV adapters essentially just provide an Ethernet link over household electrical wiring, so you can use them between a modem + router, but I wouldn't recommend it unless your internet speed tier is lower than the speed the Powerline AV adapters can deliver over your building's wiring.

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Well I am on VDSL2 and can't get more than 50mb/s so im sure Powerline is fast enough. But I have noticed with Powerline that both adapters need to be on the same circuit (my house has 3), or else the connection is really bad.

ornate jungle Nov 1, 2020, 4:08 AM

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If you've got under 100mbps, then Powerline could be a viable option, so long as you can find a circuit between both endpoints that doesn't cause the connection to be slow. I've had Powerline adapters experience terrible speeds on the same circuit between outlets on different sides of a room - we later found out that their refrigerator was disrupting the connection whenever the compressor came on because it put a higher load on the circuit in that room.

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 4:16 AM

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The reason why I mention this is because I have 3 DSL ports in my house. For some strange reason the DSL port at the back of my house is the fastest, I can get at least 5mb/s faster. But there is no room for both my modem, router (usg) and ap (ac-pro), so im thinking maybe if I can get a good connection between powerline upstairs and another in the center of my house I can just have the modem on the fast DSL port and have the router and ap elsewhere. And I too have noticed inconsistency throughout the day, presumably from compressors turning on and off. My house is probably not the most ideal for powerline and to make things worse, I am using really crappy powerline adapters. But I might give it a go.

ornate jungle Nov 1, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Makes sense to at least try your theory for the small increase in speed.

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 4:21 AM

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I sometimes wonder with this difference in speed between DSL ports. What if I payed someone wire a new DSL line from the Madison box straight into the house, and only one port could I get a huge speed increase. Maybe I have a good FTTN connection just really crappy house wiring haha!

thorny vector Nov 1, 2020, 5:14 AM

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@native cradle Something else that might work for you is a baseboard/sub-carpet ethernet run. Real easy, no modification of the house, and at most you'll need finishing nails

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 5:16 AM

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My house is 3 storeys, part of which has a subfloor and has very low pitched roof meaning the parts of the roof that you can access does not have enough room to crawl in. There is no easy way to run wiring, trust me 🤣

thorny vector Nov 1, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Hah, fair enough. I'm leasing right now, so I just have a long run under my carpet and along the walls all the way to my server room from my modem

cold sandal Nov 1, 2020, 7:58 AM

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Alr, why is it when I do a speed test I get 100mbs but when I actually download something it downloads at 10mbs???

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I need answers and solutions

ornate jungle Nov 1, 2020, 8:00 AM

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Are you sure it's downloading at 10mbps or is it MBps? (megabit != megabyte) Also keep in mind that while a speedtest might give you 300mbps, file download speeds rely on the server the files are hosted on to be fast as well.

cold sandal Nov 1, 2020, 8:03 AM

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Speed test: 93.21Mbs
Downloading 4GB Update on steam: 11MB/s Peak

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I don’t even know what the difference is

ornate jungle Nov 1, 2020, 8:08 AM

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@cold sandal Backblaze has a good article on the difference. https://www.backblaze.com/blog/megabits-vs-megabytes/

Backblaze Blog | Cloud Storage & Cloud Backup

Peter Cohen

What is the Difference Between Megabits and Megabytes

What's the difference between a megabit and a megabyte? "A factor of eight" is the obvious answer. But the real answer takes on an Internet history lesson.

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 8:08 AM

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Steam is measured in megabyte but most speed tests are measured in megabits yeah

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One megabyte is 8 megabit if I recall correctly.

cold sandal Nov 1, 2020, 8:10 AM

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So im getting 88Mbps download?

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If my maths is correct

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 8:10 AM

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From Steam, yes.

cold sandal Nov 1, 2020, 8:11 AM

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Nice, now I gotta check my ethernet cable to see what kinda of cable it is...

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I have like a 20ft cable. Any ideas where I would find writing stating what type it is

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 8:12 AM

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On the cable next to me, it is every 1m (3.2ft).

cold sandal Nov 1, 2020, 8:12 AM

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Ight ima try looking

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Found it 🙂

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Cat 5E

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 8:13 AM

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Well lucky it isn't just plain cat 5.

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Cat5E sounds like more than enough (upto gigabit) unless you move massive files around via your local network.

cold sandal Nov 1, 2020, 8:15 AM

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Well it connects to my router straight to my pc

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Private network*

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But like, my phone gets 120Mbs and my pc gets 95Mbs

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That shouldn’t be allowed to happen

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 8:17 AM

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How many times have you tested it? Does your router have gigabit ports?

cold sandal Nov 1, 2020, 8:17 AM

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Phone

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Computer

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nova igloo Nov 1, 2020, 8:42 AM

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Ethernet cable speed cap?

tall canyon Nov 1, 2020, 8:44 AM

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Hey guys a friend is installing a new network in his home

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He will have 300mbps speeds so should he choose 5e?

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I dont know anything about networking

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And are there differences in 5e cables? Like some will have max 2gbps or 1gbps?

shrewd spindle Nov 1, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Does anyone have an 803gv2?

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 10:37 AM

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Palladrian, yes he only needs 5e. It is the cheapest option. But it's not a bad idea to choose higher specification of ethernet for future proofing, maybe he will get a faster internet plan in the future? Maybe in future he will have a NAS that has a 10GBE port and has computers with a 10GBE port, many motherboards these days have a 2.5G or even 10G GBE port. In terms of what speed to expect with 5e, expect up to gigabit not more. Also these is a installation that involves ethernet going throughout the home, then I do recommend a higher grade as they will do better over a long(ish) distance.

tame carbon Nov 1, 2020, 11:14 AM

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10GbE on copper is stupid

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unreliable and expensive

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unless you have direct attach, on verified cables, I would only use 10G with fiber

onyx arch Nov 1, 2020, 11:29 AM

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im a big dumb dumb for not putting my 10 gb ip addresses seprate from my other network maarioSlain

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 11:56 AM

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10GbE is still faster than normal GbE. Expensive for sure but if you need speed then...

tame carbon Nov 1, 2020, 12:29 PM

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@native cradle with 10gbit, using RJ45 copper is limited to 25 meters

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need well shielded cat7

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and even then, crosstalk is still an issue

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10gbit RJ45 interfaces are very expensive

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if you ditch RJ45, and go to SFP+ with fiber

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its like half the cost

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two fiber modules, $18 each, and a length of fiber, 30 meters costing $5

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That's $5 for prefabbed fiber, so they splice the connectors on it for you

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 12:41 PM

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actually yeah i forgot how cheap sc fibre was (comparatively)

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but it is practical when you have computers that support it.

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 1:05 PM

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RJ45 copper over Cat6a is limited to 100 meters.....
Edit: for 10g speeds

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It's still very expensive compared to fiber though and you have heat issues too

tame carbon Nov 1, 2020, 1:15 PM

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not for 10G

acoustic lintel Nov 1, 2020, 1:16 PM

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hahaha

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 1:18 PM

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Yes for 10g

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It's in the spec, 55m for Cat6 and 100m for 6a for 10G

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Cat7 isn't even a TIA/EIA spec, it's an ISO standard only

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The next TIA/EIA approved spec after 6a is 8.1 and 8.2 for RJ45 and TERA connectors for 25Gbit and 40Gbit up to 30m over copper

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 1:49 PM

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I don't understand, at that point just use fiber

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 1:55 PM

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100% agree @peak cloak

tame carbon Nov 1, 2020, 2:21 PM

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@clear igloo though, copper for long distance way more expensive

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from economic standpoint, makes more sense to use fiber

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copper is relatively rare

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Yes, copper is pretty stupid in most cases at 10g and above

little schooner Nov 1, 2020, 2:47 PM

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There are sfp+ copper modules that can do 10g over 80m too

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it is expensive :(

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 2:55 PM

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They are expensive and have heat considerations too

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Since they are 2.5w compared to the usual 1.5w of fiber

little schooner Nov 1, 2020, 2:56 PM

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oh yeah. if you have like 20 of them connected at 2.5w, it gets toasty

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 2:57 PM

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Well I know many DC switches, at least from Cisco, won't even let you populate neighboring ports with the copper SFP+ modules, you have to do it in a pattern so you don't overheat anything

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So if you plug it into port 1 you can't bring up port below or to the right with the same copper modules but you can do fiber just fine in those ports

little schooner Nov 1, 2020, 3:00 PM

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whoa, that cuts into the value of the purchased switch

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if you cant even use all the ports

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makes sense to stick with fiber i see

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Well you can, just not with the copper SFPs, just have to use fiber on the other ports

little schooner Nov 1, 2020, 3:02 PM

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oh i read it wrong

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okay, its a good balance.

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When Comcast was installing wall port stuff, they didn't use this at all

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They should of done it the right way

waxen saddle Nov 1, 2020, 3:18 PM

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When they wire up the MPoE. I don’t trust them to wire in my house.

waxen scroll Nov 1, 2020, 3:20 PM

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lmao yeah. they did similar to mine

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i hate the speed tricks they do too

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like if your TV is going to be near a closet, instead of neatly dropping the wires into the wall from the attic, they go YOLO and poke a hole in your closet celing and run the wire down where you can see it

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thats what you get for $30/jack or whatever cheap rate they charge

tame carbon Nov 1, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Consumer internet is low hanging fruit

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They optimized: whats the cheapest we can install, and get away with

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if you open up a DSLAM in neighborhood, a total mess is expected

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https://tiandavis.com/images/pstn-6.jpg

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xD

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"why is my dsl so slow"

hollow marlin Nov 1, 2020, 3:39 PM

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66 blocks should NOT be used for DSL

nova igloo Nov 1, 2020, 4:12 PM

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And this is fiber

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mystic plank Nov 1, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Hello I have a question, so I'm looking into getting a new wifi router so I'd get more coverage around the house, the problem with the network setup I have is it doesn't do good coverage through 2 60cm brick walls, so I'm not sure what to get

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I don't have any wires nor the ability to put wires into walls

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rn bouncing the signal from top floor to middle then to the side to the room

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but its so slow and so bad

charred meadow Nov 1, 2020, 4:45 PM

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An other option is powerline(https://www.techradar.com/news/networking/powerline-networking-what-you-need-to-know-930691)

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 4:45 PM

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depending on your home you could hide wires on walls in the corners

mystic plank Nov 1, 2020, 4:46 PM

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like each floor is about 8m*8m with 3 floors

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 4:46 PM

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you could also put the wires in a cable raceway

mystic plank Nov 1, 2020, 4:46 PM

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but there's really thick walls in the middle

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i want to put a strong router in the middle floor in the middle

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 4:47 PM

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the router may be strong, but your end device might not be

unborn sluice Nov 1, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Routers route
Access points access

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 4:47 PM

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^

mystic plank Nov 1, 2020, 4:48 PM

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rn I'm looking at this TP-LINK WiFi Router AC1750 Archer C7

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It's gotta be better than the isp router tho right?

unborn sluice Nov 1, 2020, 4:49 PM

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WiFi mesh pogchamp1

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 4:49 PM

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that means an ethernet router with multiple AP's

mystic plank Nov 1, 2020, 4:49 PM

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I cant get a wired backhaul bruv

charred meadow Nov 1, 2020, 4:50 PM

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There's no way to do it 100% wirelessly because of the conctrete. Ideal would be to have somehow get ethernet to the seperate acces points. If there is coax cable in the walls you can use moca. Otherwise the other option is to use powerline which send internet over the electrical wiring.

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 4:50 PM

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I mean there is, but it will probably not be good

unborn sluice Nov 1, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Find a way to use light for connectivity

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Not fiber optic cause that's wired

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 4:50 PM

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@unborn sluice I know your joking but someone actually did that

unborn sluice Nov 1, 2020, 4:51 PM

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I was thinking of like pointing lasers like bit by bit

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 4:51 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li-Fi

Li-Fi

Li-Fi (short for light fidelity) is wireless communication technology which utilizes light to transmit data and position between devices. The term was first introduced by Harald Haas during a 2011 TEDGlobal talk in Edinburgh.In technical terms, Li-Fi is a light communication s...

unborn sluice Nov 1, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Yea lifi is a good idea

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Back in the day

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pepoJuice

primal ice Nov 1, 2020, 4:52 PM

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you want soup-- No Soup for you!

charred meadow Nov 1, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Other option if thicc concrete wall is in the way https://www.amazon.ca/Bosch-HC2088-SDS-Plus-Shank-24-Inch/dp/B001AHQXLC/ref=asc_df_B001AHQXLC/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=292938351042&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10242548842534913878&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9000112&hvtargid=pla-569660855694&psc=1

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 4:53 PM

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or run it on the walls, not in the walls

unborn sluice Nov 1, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Unifi single device and point it to his room

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A big Petri dish

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Like titanic big

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 4:59 PM

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time to setup kubernetes lab

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yeah, that's probably what I'll use for the nodes

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"nodes"

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it's all on one machine, just in VM's

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I guess I could do that too, but for now I'll use VM's to simulate actual metal hosts

little schooner Nov 1, 2020, 5:46 PM

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@topaz quarry you mentioned engenius and I am testing them atm for wireless. I did see they have a mesh setting in the controller and a speed test option for mesh to mesh

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Wired when possible

waxen scroll Nov 1, 2020, 6:32 PM

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@little schooner plug your AP in at school for science

inner lake Nov 1, 2020, 6:36 PM

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I need help with my crappy shit internet, it’ll literally have a stroke if ONE person is on and proceeds to turn offline for hours on end until we reset it

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Like yesterday the internet was only one for an amazing 20 minutes!

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TOTAL!

sharp plaza Nov 1, 2020, 6:37 PM

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If your ISP offers support and the problem is that consistent, I'd contact them

inner lake Nov 1, 2020, 6:37 PM

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I use spectrum and also the internet speeds are complete ass we payed 300mbs but only get 20mbs and ive only gotten to 100 like 5 times

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We’ve contacted shitstrum but al they said was to get a new router from them

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It did not fix it whatsoever

sharp plaza Nov 1, 2020, 6:38 PM

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With that amount of info I wouldn't try to solve the problem, I'd try to get more info

inner lake Nov 1, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Wdym?

sharp plaza Nov 1, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Is the failure in your home (like a channel issue or something, or interference) or in whatever line your home gets a connection from

I'd try to figure out the answer to that question first

inner lake Nov 1, 2020, 6:40 PM

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the only thing I really know is my routers light stuff show online as off

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So it’s “offline”

stone kite Nov 1, 2020, 6:40 PM

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I am a noob. I have a question. My educated guess is that this is not a thing bu maybe I could be pleasantly surprised.

My pc has in board gigabit. My network equipment is gigabit as well. Would I get faster transfer speed if I add a second connection to my pc via PCIe gigabit and have 2 simultaneous gigabit connections?
Is this a hacky kinda way to get 2Gbps?

inner lake Nov 1, 2020, 6:40 PM

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All the other lights are turned on including 2.4ghz and 5GHZ

sharp plaza Nov 1, 2020, 6:41 PM

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That would likely be a line issue then puff

primal ice Nov 1, 2020, 6:42 PM

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@inner lake call spectrum and request a technician to come out.

sharp plaza Nov 1, 2020, 6:42 PM

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You should contact your ISP and say something similar to "I think there's a problem with the cable to my home, my router works fine (it's new) but I'm still having issues"
If they offer a tech to come out, accept

inner lake Nov 1, 2020, 6:42 PM

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I’m not even sure why they didn’t do that in the first place Ngl 💀

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My internet was down the whole day last week Thursday

primal ice Nov 1, 2020, 6:43 PM

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@stone kite no you will not get 2 gb that way you will just have 2 1 gigabit connections to the router/whatever.

sharp plaza Nov 1, 2020, 6:43 PM

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@stone kite the answer is: it's complicated. Technically you can do this but you likely don't have the right kind of setup for it

inner lake Nov 1, 2020, 6:43 PM

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it’s so fun when they pay you monthly and it’s not even up for more than 10 days total lol

sharp plaza Nov 1, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Typically that's not a thing you can do at all

waxen scroll Nov 1, 2020, 6:43 PM

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you'll crash a non-smart router attempting it

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depends how its set up i guess lmao

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@sharp plaza every time mine goes down i call and ask for a refund

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they give it to me too

sharp plaza Nov 1, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Dang, I WISH my ISP would listen when it comes to things like that

waxen scroll Nov 1, 2020, 6:45 PM

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mines comcast 😄

sharp plaza Nov 1, 2020, 6:45 PM

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But in my area it's them or some satellite provider

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AT&T here

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Not pleasant

waxen scroll Nov 1, 2020, 6:46 PM

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the refund is crap, its only for 24hr of service but its the principal

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im at my computer with no internet, might as well get some money

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 7:03 PM

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@stone kite yeah, technically it would be possible, but with regular windows, no. LAGG could be used, but you won't get 2GB for a simultaneous connection (ex: downloading a file). NIC teaming will get you 2GB I think, but the switch on the other end would also need to support it

stone kite Nov 1, 2020, 7:03 PM

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Then I feel my only other option is for a multi-gig (not 10G) switch

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 7:04 PM

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or just use fiber?

stone kite Nov 1, 2020, 7:04 PM

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That's a bit expensive.

waxen saddle Nov 1, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Fiber still requires a multi-gig switch.

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 7:04 PM

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yeah

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true

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fiber itself isn't that expensive though

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it's the fiber SFP's

stone kite Nov 1, 2020, 7:05 PM

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I don't mind getting 2.5/5G cards for my computer and just reconnecting the current cables.

If I WAS gonna redo my entire network, I'd go 10 no question about it

inner lake Nov 1, 2020, 7:06 PM

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holy shit my interents up woooooo

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time to play foor 5 minutes then itll die!

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 7:06 PM

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also why do you need such fast speeds? You got a NAS?

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(I would want 10 gig too)

stone kite Nov 1, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Yes, I have a NAS

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 7:06 PM

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nice

stone kite Nov 1, 2020, 7:09 PM

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I have 2 NAS boxes. One for personal, made from an old Dell and the other for work, made from my Z97 extreme4 that was sitting around collecting dust.

I do audio and light video editing. Videopad, my software of choice, loads the file and then caches to disk. So does wavepad and Mixpad. I have been using all 3 at once more frequently.

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I need an upgrade, just not a "balls to the wall" upgrade

waxen saddle Nov 1, 2020, 7:10 PM

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NAS or Network upgrade?

stone kite Nov 1, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Network

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Any suggestions on a multi-gig switch that won't break my wallet?

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 7:11 PM

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what's your budget?

stone kite Nov 1, 2020, 7:12 PM

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What do they go for? Lol

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 7:12 PM

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I mean for 10gig there's this https://mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in

MikroTik

MikroTik is a Latvian company which was founded in 1996 to develop routers and wireless ISP systems. MikroTik now provides hardware and software for Internet connectivity in most of the countries around the world.

waxen saddle Nov 1, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Microtik might have one. https://mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in

MikroTik

MikroTik is a Latvian company which was founded in 1996 to develop routers and wireless ISP systems. MikroTik now provides hardware and software for Internet connectivity in most of the countries around the world.

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 7:12 PM

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I know you don't want 10gig, but just showing you

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same thing lol

waxen saddle Nov 1, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Disclaimer: I've neverused a MikroTik product. I've heard good things about them though.

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 7:13 PM

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me neither, but people usually say good things about it

stone kite Nov 1, 2020, 7:16 PM

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I have heard of them while researching but I'm not sold on 10G. 149 for a 5port and the incoming source is 1G, so I get 4 usable ports. Altho that is the amount I need, I will want more in the future which makes it a waste

waxen saddle Nov 1, 2020, 7:16 PM

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10g will downgrade to multigigabit as well.

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This is the next step up: https://mikrotik.com/product/crs309_1g_8s_in Also note: I'm not aware of any other manufacturer that can hit these price points.

MikroTik

MikroTik is a Latvian company which was founded in 1996 to develop routers and wireless ISP systems. MikroTik now provides hardware and software for Internet connectivity in most of the countries around the world.

stone kite Nov 1, 2020, 7:18 PM

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I'm looking to use my existing pleb copper too

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 7:18 PM

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what is it?

waxen saddle Nov 1, 2020, 7:18 PM

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SFP ports will allow for that.

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 7:19 PM

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cat6 can do 10gig

hollow marlin Nov 1, 2020, 7:20 PM

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So can Cat5e over about ~30m

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 7:20 PM

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I wouldn't recommend it tho

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the transceivers can get expensive too

waxen saddle Nov 1, 2020, 7:20 PM

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True

hollow marlin Nov 1, 2020, 7:20 PM

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If you are using SFP+ for copper it has 30m limit anyway

stone kite Nov 1, 2020, 7:23 PM

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30m=~100 feet. My longest run is 50feet, so I should be fine. I don't own my house tho and this could change when I get my own place

little schooner Nov 1, 2020, 7:36 PM

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@waxen scroll it wont work. They really have everything locked down real tight.

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To the point where you need to contact helpdesk at a centralized building if you want to go outbound to a specific website

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you need to get it approved

waxen scroll Nov 1, 2020, 7:37 PM

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you know the rules. once you have physical access its game over

little schooner Nov 1, 2020, 7:37 PM

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443? needs approval.

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@waxen scroll true

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@waxen scroll My work account just broke. I can't login to teams or sharepoint anymore

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It is stuck in a redirection loop

waxen scroll Nov 1, 2020, 7:38 PM

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however i did work somewhere with a cisco IPTV solution that an old company left behind and it couldnt be broken into. cisco wouldnt help either since we didnt technically own the contract on it

little schooner Nov 1, 2020, 7:39 PM

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well its good if policies are actually enforced and dont just live as a document for looks

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But who do I blame for my microsoft teams account not working anymore?

waxen scroll Nov 1, 2020, 7:40 PM

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probably your active directory person

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im guessing its an SSO problem

little schooner Nov 1, 2020, 7:40 PM

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hmm

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Well if they dont fix it by monday, i guess im missing my meeting

waxen scroll Nov 1, 2020, 7:41 PM

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why would you. just dial in using the info in the invite

little schooner Nov 1, 2020, 7:41 PM

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i can join without being logged in?

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like that

waxen scroll Nov 1, 2020, 7:41 PM

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yes

little schooner Nov 1, 2020, 7:42 PM

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great. so that is the backup plan.

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still, I will be lacking access to my sharepoint resources

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makes me sad.

thorny vector Nov 1, 2020, 7:44 PM

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@hollow marlin I want to have some mad lad networking equipment company see just how much they can push through cat. Unsafely.

little schooner Nov 1, 2020, 7:45 PM

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One of the policies in AD they set was disabling UAC for administrator accounts. Each staff has an admin account but they are pushed to login with their regular one

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I reenabled my UAC anyway

hollow marlin Nov 1, 2020, 7:47 PM

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@thorny vector currently there has been successful testing of 80gig through copper. It's a 2U chassis that's 90% heatsink with a single RJ45

thorny vector Nov 1, 2020, 7:48 PM

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that.... makes me so happy

primal ice Nov 1, 2020, 7:50 PM

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heh

random tendon Nov 1, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Hey peeps I am wondering if someone knows, so I just got new internet and the signal keeps dropping to 5 Mbps and it should be 200 Mbps if you go into another room away from the router it tanks to next to nothing. Is there any tips to solve this? and I can't run an Ethernet cable through the house unfortunately.

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 8:06 PM

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what are your walls made of

random tendon Nov 1, 2020, 8:07 PM

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60 year old walls, thin plaster board and wood

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 8:07 PM

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ok, so it's not concrete or something like that

random tendon Nov 1, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Nope

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 8:07 PM

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sounds like a very bad wifi AP

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or just a router that's bad at routing

random tendon Nov 1, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Ahh it's the Virgin Media 3.0 one that they give you

primal ice Nov 1, 2020, 8:14 PM

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hrm old houses used chicken wire to help hold up the thin wood and plaster board.

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 8:15 PM

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oh yeah true, it could be acting like a faraday cage

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 8:19 PM

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What are you talking about. I have never heard anyone just "expect" ethernet run throughout the house by an ISP.

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An ISP gets the internet to your house but their not responsible for the networking physically within your house, that's your responsibility and that's completely reasonable?

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Maybe this is a Yank thing.

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I know people will complain about the router provided but I have never heard people expect more than that.

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Noobs

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🤣

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?

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I mean here in Au, some ISPs don't have their own branded routers and just resell third party ones.

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Hold on one second let me edit my comments

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 8:33 PM

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I use an ISP modem, I get what I paid for

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yeah

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optimum doesn't even have an option on their website to use your own router

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 8:34 PM

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ISP routers are pretty decent?

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 8:34 PM

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for me, no

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yeah modems are decent

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Compared to opnsense, ubiquiti etc yeah they aren't good

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But they work

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In Australia you don't get a modem from ISPs, and there is only one third party one from Netgear.

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ISPs just give you a decent AC router

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Modems are anicent?

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Wtf

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 8:39 PM

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FTTH (Fiber to the home)

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 8:39 PM

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I was thinking you meant DSL modem Lmaoooo

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 8:40 PM

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it needs to modulate the signal tho?

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 8:40 PM

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We have modems (I would call it a NTD modem though) for HFC (internet over coax) but we don't have modems for fibre connections.

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 8:41 PM

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HFC? never heard of that, only DOCISS

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Hybrid Fibre Coaxial

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 8:41 PM

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comcast owns dociss?

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as for fiber, verizon just has one box, the ONT that does authentication and the fiber conversion for GPON

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hmm, never thought of that

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 8:43 PM

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How

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 8:43 PM

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why?

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I mean verizon ONT's have a costumer section and an ISP only section

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the costumer part has the ONT outputs, Tel, ethernet, moca. Fiber is hidden away in the ISP part

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 8:46 PM

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FTTP NTD and HFC modem for NBN

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Xd

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 8:47 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/623265423533801483/770431306970038302/20201026_193753.jpg

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like mine

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 8:48 PM

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But like most of Australia. I'm stuck with FTTN, aka VDSL2 speeds.

thorny vector Nov 1, 2020, 8:48 PM

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@topaz quarry DOCSIS was developed by CableLabs and contributing companies, including 3Com, ARRIS, BigBand Networks, Broadcom, Cisco, Comcast, Conexant, Correlant, Cox, Harmonic, Hitron Technologies, Intel, Motorola, Netgear, Technicolor, Terayon, Time Warner Cable, and Texas Instruments.[1][2][3]

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Cisco aps are expensive

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?

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Really

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Only the 9000 series APs and even then

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 8:50 PM

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I see rubbish Cisco n aps for like $400 AUD

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 8:50 PM

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yeesh

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Just because they are "enterprise"

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Ubiquiti aps ftw!

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Because you can totally manage 1000+ of them with a single controller?

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 8:51 PM

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TP-Link Omada ftw as well

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 8:51 PM

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TP-Link business aps are very cheap

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And have good software

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 8:52 PM

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yeah I have one

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well the business ones are nice

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 8:52 PM

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I just question if their aps are reliable

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Are they just consumer grade (aka trash) stuff like netgear, Asus etc

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 8:53 PM

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I have one running for almost a year now with no issues

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https://www.tp-link.com/us/business-networking/omada-sdn-access-point/eap225/

EAP225 | AC1350 Wireless MU-MIMO Gigabit Ceiling Mount Access Point...

AC1350 Wireless MU-MIMO Gigabit Ceiling Mount Access Point

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this one

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Those are like 70 bucks lmao

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 8:54 PM

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yeah ik

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I don't need anything special

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 8:54 PM

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They seem great

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 8:55 PM

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I just have one in the center of the house, no issues what so ever

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roku is connected via ethernet

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Ok so weird storey: a couple years ago I started to have an issue. About twice a day the wifi would just CRASH into oblivion, I just didn't understand. I tried both my Technicolor router and Netgear router. Both had the exact the thing. And it's weird because the internet on LAN still worked. The only way to fix was to restart the whole router. So this is where I got my UAP-AC-PRO (which is great btw, expensive compared to TP-Link but cheap compared to Huawei, Cisco, Aruba, Ruckus.). The problem completly disappeared. I never found out why that was happening, 1-3 times a day and roughly the same times.

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 8:59 PM

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@topaz quarry I'm talking 1000+ APs off a single controller in one enterprise, one interface, etc. that's where Aruba/Cisco/Mist/etc. shine. For smaller MSP type deployments with a half dozen or so APs per customer I'm sure Ubnt and whatnot are fine

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Just don't run the 1000+ ap controller on a raspberry pi

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 9:00 PM

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I'm sure ubnt scales up decent to a point, just haven't messed with it to comment either way

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 9:01 PM

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The thing with UBNT is the software. It's so sexy. Same with their website.

waxen scroll Nov 1, 2020, 9:02 PM

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the thing with ACI is the software is so sexy. hard af to use.

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cisco's spine/leaf controller

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 9:03 PM

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You mean smart? 😛

waxen scroll Nov 1, 2020, 9:03 PM

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i thought this new way of networking was gonna be easy and put us network people out of a job. no. it looks sexier and got harder

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 9:04 PM

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My school has $2000 aps in almost every class room and it hurts my brain. They use Ruckas btw.

waxen scroll Nov 1, 2020, 9:04 PM

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$2k is the list price. they probably got 70% off

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 9:05 PM

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they use cisco meraki in my school

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Why would list price be so high?

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 9:06 PM

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So they can discount your order and make you feel special

waxen scroll Nov 1, 2020, 9:06 PM

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because they want to charge different prices to different people

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 9:07 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20201102-070656_Chrome.png

waxen scroll Nov 1, 2020, 9:07 PM

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ebay isnt an authorized retailer, so of course you'll pay full price

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i dont even know why because vendors typically have a set edu discount

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edu discounts are like 80%

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 9:10 PM

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My point is. I guarantee they payed at least $800 AUD even with huge discounts. And what's stopping them from using nanoHDs that cost 1/4 of the price.

waxen scroll Nov 1, 2020, 9:11 PM

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support

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even i call cisco at 1am going OMFG why isnt this basic config working????

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ubnt you cant

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yes, they called it mo zalla

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 9:12 PM

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No

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 9:12 PM

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I turn off spanning tree. Why network go boom?!?!

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 9:12 PM

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My school should let me be head of IT. I can manage a Unifi network lmao

waxen scroll Nov 1, 2020, 9:13 PM

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anyway i ran into an issue at 1am where the hardware link between the line card and CPU was dropping packets and i had to call cisco

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ubnt will be crickets

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 9:13 PM

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So what your telling me is Cisco has rubbish hardware 🤣

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I'm joking

waxen scroll Nov 1, 2020, 9:14 PM

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im just saying when you work at a place that loses any kind of money while down, you need the support. If you have APs and controllers, you need support. somethings going to go wrong and you need help now. sometimes part swaps dont work

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 9:15 PM

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6 nested config lines deep is SOOO fun 😛

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Ubiquiti has like 1/7 of the employees

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Actually no

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I forget how many UBNT has

hollow marlin Nov 1, 2020, 9:15 PM

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And 0 support 🤷🏻‍♂️

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 9:15 PM

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God typing on a phone is painful

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Well

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I find it hard to believe, even in a scenario of 100s of aps that thing go wrong on a regular basis.

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 9:17 PM

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Follow the sun

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 9:17 PM

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Does Ruckus have good support?

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Aren't they tiny compared to Cisco

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https://www.ruckussecurity.com.au/ZoneFlex-R710.asp

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Look how rubbish their website is

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Ruckus is owned by Arris

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 9:20 PM

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And yes I am aware thats not ruckus that's an Australian distributor

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https://support.ruckuswireless.com/

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Probably

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https://e.huawei.com/en/products/enterprise-networking/wlan/indoor-access-points/airengine-8760-x1-pro

Huawei Enterprise

AirEngine 8760-X1-PRO Indoor WLAN AP - Huawei

AirEngine 8760-X1-PRO - Huawei's flagship Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax) indoor Access Point (AP) features 16 Smart Antennas.

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That is one high capacity ap

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Damn

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Not just antennas but SMART antennas 😛

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 9:29 PM

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I want to know how much it would cost

hollow marlin Nov 1, 2020, 9:30 PM

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High capacity APs are just marketing

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Hey you can't deny Huawei is an industry leader

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 9:31 PM

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@hollow marlin But don't you need 10Gb SFP ports on your AP?!?

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 9:32 PM

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?

hollow marlin Nov 1, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Marketing cannot beat physics

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 9:32 PM

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pikachuO

hollow marlin Nov 1, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Like the Unifi "200 devices" rating

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 9:33 PM

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But it's not even marketing. Huawei LOVE comparing their products directly to competitors in their product releases. It's funny.

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They dont even go... Vendor a vendor b

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Vendor A, Vendor C, Vendor H, Vendor J
😛

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 9:34 PM

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J?

clear igloo Nov 1, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Juniper

hollow marlin Nov 1, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Pretty much all Juniper at this point

native cradle Nov 1, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Lol

hollow marlin Nov 1, 2020, 9:38 PM

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3k/4k are. The 12/24 port 3k are passive and the fanned PoE are decently quiet

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The passive models run hella hot, same with the SRX300

vale reef Nov 1, 2020, 10:25 PM

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what ethernet crimper do you guys reccomend?

charred meadow Nov 1, 2020, 10:30 PM

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How many cables do you need to crimp?

hollow marlin Nov 1, 2020, 10:30 PM

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@topaz quarry non-PoE are passive, but yeah the 4ks all SFP+ are definitely loud.

vale reef Nov 1, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Not a ton but I want it to work

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https://www.amazon.com/Pass-Thru-Reliable-Klein-Tools-VDV226-110/dp/B076MGPQZQ/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=ethernet+crimper&qid=1604269991&sr=8-5

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I was looking at this one

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I got this one and its so bad: https://www.amazon.com/Network-Maintenance-Portable-Crimper-Connectors/dp/B0756SN86D/ref=sr_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=ethernet+crimper&qid=1604269991&sr=8-8

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Ive tried new cable, diffirent ends, everything and I cant get it to work

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Its usually pin 1 that doesnt stay consistant in both my testers

charred meadow Nov 1, 2020, 10:35 PM

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I have used the cheap ones off of amazon with pretty good succes for the handfull of cables I've made.

vale reef Nov 1, 2020, 10:37 PM

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I have tried like 20 times with different types of ends and different cable and it still wont work for me

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I'm following the B standard on the internet on both ends

charred meadow Nov 1, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Are the metal bits pushed in deep enough and to a consisten depth?

vale reef Nov 1, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Yes

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Let me send pics of all my failed attempts

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ignore the ones where i pulled the casing off when i cut it

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pics from both sides (clip on top and clip on bottom) @charred meadow

charred meadow Nov 1, 2020, 10:46 PM

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It's hard to tell but it looks like some of the wire are not going in all the way.

vale reef Nov 1, 2020, 10:46 PM

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I will try again in a min

primal ice Nov 1, 2020, 10:47 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/Professional-Ethernet-Connector-Stripping-Connectors/dp/B075K1GV7Q

charred meadow Nov 1, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Before you crimp make sure the all the wire are in all the way.

stable iceBOT Nov 1, 2020, 10:49 PM

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https://www.platinumtools.com/products/crimpers/exo-crimp-frame-with-exo-ex-die-100061c/

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Platinum Tools® | Products | Crimpers | 100061C

strange lintel Nov 1, 2020, 11:19 PM

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@vale reef how hard is it to make one? It cant be that hard

waxen saddle Nov 1, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Make sure both ends of the cable are following the same standard.

vale reef Nov 1, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Of course

waxen saddle Nov 1, 2020, 11:20 PM

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And just before clamping down, make sure the wires are up against the end

vale reef Nov 1, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Yes thanks

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Doing it rn

waxen saddle Nov 1, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Sweet.

strange lintel Nov 1, 2020, 11:21 PM

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I doubt it's that hard to make one 🤔

vale reef Nov 1, 2020, 11:21 PM

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im dumb lol

waxen saddle Nov 1, 2020, 11:22 PM

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No worries mate. Took me 45 minutes to make my first cable. Now I’m down to 2-5 minutes

charred meadow Nov 1, 2020, 11:22 PM

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They can be pretty awkward.

waxen saddle Nov 1, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Just takes practice.

sour minnow Nov 1, 2020, 11:22 PM

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what specs do I need for a nas/plex server plz help. I'm using a r3 3100 and gtx 1050ti for video encoding acceleration with 10TB of storage do I need to upgrade

charred meadow Nov 1, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Took me a few tries to make them the first time.

peak cloak Nov 1, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Passthrough ones are nice

hollow marlin Nov 1, 2020, 11:55 PM

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As someone that has terminated 1000s of end:

Strip 2" off
flatten and put the wires in type B order while pinching them flat
Take the tip of your index finger width from the casing and while continuing to pinch, twist the rest of the pairs a few times
Cut at finger tip width from casing
This gives you the perfect length for the shielding to be crimped and the ends to be fully inserted. As a bonus, twisting the excess assist in keeping the pinched portion flat while not making a mess when you cut the excess off.

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Its how I trained people to terminate

sacred ocean Nov 1, 2020, 11:57 PM

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Passthrough ones are nice
@peak cloak I think certain devices get their warranty voided if you use passthrough terminations.

hollow marlin Nov 1, 2020, 11:58 PM

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Because many cheaper crimps and people who never change the blades, will leave some wire tips exposed and short if you use PoE. Im not a fan of passthrough to begin with

vale reef Nov 1, 2020, 11:59 PM

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im using keystones i cant fucking crimp

sacred ocean Nov 2, 2020, 12:00 AM

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Yeah. You're better off just learning how to crimp properly.

vale reef Nov 2, 2020, 12:04 AM

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im trying

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lol

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im soooo bad

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thanks for believing in me

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the new cat6 is so stiff

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rip

sacred ocean Nov 2, 2020, 12:06 AM

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On the behalf of someone with small Asian hands, it helps.

charred meadow Nov 2, 2020, 12:10 AM

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As a bonus, twisting the excess assist in keeping the pinched portion flat while not making a mess when you cut the excess off.
@hollow marlin That's a great tip! Thanks

vale reef Nov 2, 2020, 12:10 AM

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I think im getting closer

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i have two

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lol

sacred ocean Nov 2, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Also, label your runs!

vale reef Nov 2, 2020, 12:11 AM

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yes ofc

sacred ocean Nov 2, 2020, 12:11 AM

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The previous person didn't.

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Well, they did.

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Just completely wrong

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Yeah.

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And they managed to mess up keystones.

hollow marlin Nov 2, 2020, 12:19 AM

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To give the benefit of the doubt I have seen atrocious keystones and ones with atrocious labelling which is what people tend to mess up with keystones

sacred ocean Nov 2, 2020, 12:22 AM

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These ones were clear.

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Probably got a contracter to do it.

waxen scroll Nov 2, 2020, 12:34 AM

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@vale reef whose AlexT

vale reef Nov 2, 2020, 12:34 AM

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me

waxen scroll Nov 2, 2020, 12:34 AM

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whats your youtube

vale reef Nov 2, 2020, 12:34 AM

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blank

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there is nothing on it

waxen scroll Nov 2, 2020, 12:34 AM

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🤔

vale reef Nov 2, 2020, 12:35 AM

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displayed it on my profile

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im still so bad at crimping lol

waxen scroll Nov 2, 2020, 12:37 AM

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not me. theres tricks

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@hollow marlin and I prob only botched like 2 out of 500

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you should get some tools meant for it

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xD

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https://www.amazon.com/Fluke-Networks-D-Snip-Cable-Scissors/dp/B000E5VAXM/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2LZNLR1N5JB4U&dchild=1&keywords=fluke+scissors&qid=1604277894&sprefix=fluke+sc%2Caps%2C171&sr=8-1

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these are pretty critical

hollow marlin Nov 2, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Yeah, first 2 times were pretty much it with all other times bad caps where either the blades missed or were missing altogether

waxen scroll Nov 2, 2020, 12:54 AM

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for me, most of the success is from using the scissors to flatten the wires (after putting them in order) and then making a clean cut

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you can use other scissors but its a pain in the ass since most arent rounded like that

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 12:55 AM

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Labeling runs...

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https://tenor.com/view/umm-um-ummm-ummok-puppet-gif-17038634

Tenor

waxen scroll Nov 2, 2020, 12:55 AM

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what about it? just use the wrap around laser printer labels or a label cartridge that does it

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:3

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 12:56 AM

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I always plan on it

hollow marlin Nov 2, 2020, 12:56 AM

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Dyno + nylon labels = perfection

waxen scroll Nov 2, 2020, 12:58 AM

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now im elitest. cabling and patching is beneath me.

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 12:58 AM

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I just remember what device I plugged into which port on my switches. With varying levels of success.

waxen scroll Nov 2, 2020, 12:58 AM

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@hollow marlin i just open tickets for it last few jobs

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also on those 2/500 i had an expensive cable certifier keeping me honest

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i miss that thing

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we used it to tell customers off when they blamed the wire

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we had a thermal camera for the same

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"its too hot" ... yeah it sure is. why did you rack your servers like that?

ionic forge Nov 2, 2020, 1:07 AM

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peeps would ethical hacking be classed as networking? 😄

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I need some help 😄

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 1:09 AM

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@ionic forge What about it?

primal ice Nov 2, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Hacking of any type is a nono but go ahead with your question.

ionic forge Nov 2, 2020, 1:10 AM

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it's University actual module

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can't get priviliges

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thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 1:10 AM

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@primal ice not true. You can hack your own stuff, and stuff you’ve been authorized to touch.

nova igloo Nov 2, 2020, 1:11 AM

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I think they gonna teach you how to use those scripts hah

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Trying to priv esc on a windows box?

ionic forge Nov 2, 2020, 1:11 AM

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yes xp

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Have you tried getsystem yet?

ionic forge Nov 2, 2020, 1:12 AM

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yes unknown command

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 1:13 AM

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Because you’re in a reverse shell, not a meterpreter reverse shell. Drop a meterpreter reverse tcp payload, launch it, and get $$$

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Disregard, just exit your shell

ionic forge Nov 2, 2020, 1:15 AM

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am using port 8080 and reverse http, can't get tcp, or i don't know how to

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😄

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 1:16 AM

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Like I said, you’re in a system shell right now. Just back out of it and let meterpreter do it’s magic.

primal ice Nov 2, 2020, 1:22 AM

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if its your own stuff you are just troubleshooting vulnerabilities, if its something you are authorized to touch, you are penetration testing. there is no hacking. 😒

ionic forge Nov 2, 2020, 1:23 AM

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am not getting it I swear, I'm in meterpreter shell

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pen testers are also called "white hat hacker"

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Are all your plugins loaded? Did you initialize the metasploit DB?

ionic forge Nov 2, 2020, 1:24 AM

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yes

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loaded the db everything. No internet access for specific reason on the box

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Hmm. Not completely sure. Kali box?

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Because it sounds like something just isn’t loading.

nova igloo Nov 2, 2020, 1:55 AM

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I think you should go HackTheBox 😆

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There are many professionals

peak cloak Nov 2, 2020, 2:02 AM

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don't you just love typing an bunch of commands in hoping you don't misspell something

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doing that with vyos right now

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 2:04 AM

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@nova igloo I take offense at that 😉

ionic forge Nov 2, 2020, 2:22 AM

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not sure to be honest with you, but basically i have 2 boxes. the target machine is just a machine that is turned on but account is locked and i can't log into it, so i netdiscoveered the ip, then applied tomcat vulnerability on port 8080, an dam stuck there 😄 maybe it does not work because it's not logged in?

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 2:23 AM

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No, it would be working. The fact that meterpreter is not running what should be a built in function means something there is broken

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What’s the end goal? Just priv esc?

jolly sluice Nov 2, 2020, 2:25 AM

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I need a help here
When I copy a compressed archive from my windows box to my SMB server, it gets stuck at 0% for a quite a while and starts to copy,
Can anyone guess whats happening

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Stops here for a while

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Larger the file, longer is the delay

ionic forge Nov 2, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Yes priv escalation and copying 1 file

jolly sluice Nov 2, 2020, 2:30 AM

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can you explain

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It happens only for compressed archives

primal ice Nov 2, 2020, 2:31 AM

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he was answering some else.

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 2:31 AM

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@jolly sluice might just be windows scanning it first, then transferring it.

primal ice Nov 2, 2020, 2:31 AM

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someone*

jolly sluice Nov 2, 2020, 2:31 AM

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But, i tested it with AV disabled too

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 2:32 AM

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@ionic forge double check your metasploit install, see if that’s the issue. Otherwise, you might be able to grab priv esc the old school ways.

primal ice Nov 2, 2020, 2:33 AM

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yes its your connection timing out for what ever reason is the smb server 100% load when it does this? and or your router? you would have to be logged into the machines to see this.

jolly sluice Nov 2, 2020, 2:34 AM

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Nope,
I had a eye on netdata while I was doing it
There is not bottleneck on the server side

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The reason why I feel its client side is because it happens only with zipped files
Not with any other type of files

primal ice Nov 2, 2020, 2:37 AM

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it could be the windows machine. as its checking the zip file. then trying to calculate for the transfer. try changing it to .iso instead of .zip.

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the windows machine may have an association problem with .zip's also.

jolly sluice Nov 2, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Good, tip
Will check soon and update tou

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*you

regal marsh Nov 2, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Can anyone here help With a streaming Netowrking issue

jolly sluice Nov 2, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Next question

SMB speed over WAN sucks
Same transfer over WEBdav is fast

Over WAN
SMB = 500 KB/sec
WEBDav = Max badwidth

Over LAN
Both are saturating the network

primal ice Nov 2, 2020, 2:44 AM

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your isp is limiting smb you would have to set up tunnel.

peak cloak Nov 2, 2020, 2:44 AM

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the internet isn't as "open" as we would like it to be

primal ice Nov 2, 2020, 2:45 AM

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and smb really shouldn't be used over the cloud. but eh.

peak cloak Nov 2, 2020, 2:46 AM

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Yeah that too

jolly sluice Nov 2, 2020, 2:49 AM

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I did that just for testing,

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I will stick with webDav then

primal ice Nov 2, 2020, 2:52 AM

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@regal marsh what is your problem?

regal marsh Nov 2, 2020, 2:53 AM

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im trying to help someone but its outside my scope Every time he streams on discord his Connection Dropps hard and it laggs out he has a Gigabit up and down

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@primal ice

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It Redclaw in this voice chat

jolly sluice Nov 2, 2020, 2:55 AM

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try changing the stream server

regal marsh Nov 2, 2020, 2:57 AM

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Tried having them do it youtube instead and Same result

ionic forge Nov 2, 2020, 2:57 AM

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@thorny vector will do will try to install it, but now am passing out will do first thing in the morning .

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thank you

pale ridge Nov 2, 2020, 3:30 AM

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can you guys all solve my network issues?

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Theoretically

pale ridge Nov 2, 2020, 3:31 AM

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to what level of networking?

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 3:31 AM

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One guy here is an ISP engineer. I’m a cyber security guy who focuses on networks.

pale ridge Nov 2, 2020, 3:32 AM

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so more then have you tried turn it off an on again

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 3:32 AM

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Hey, whoa there. Sometimes we ask you to wait 5 seconds in between turning it off then back on.

pale ridge Nov 2, 2020, 3:32 AM

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I am not actually that good at consumer networking

primal ice Nov 2, 2020, 3:32 AM

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or the 30-30 method.

pale ridge Nov 2, 2020, 3:33 AM

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but have been doing ent networking for 15 years now

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all cisco

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 3:33 AM

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My apologies.

pale ridge Nov 2, 2020, 3:33 AM

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i like Cisco

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but it is all going Software defined X these days

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 3:34 AM

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It’s a pain. Whenever we’re traveling with our kits, our routers are pfsense boxes. I’m trying to push us away towards white box switch solutions, but Cisco is still a big name.

pale ridge Nov 2, 2020, 3:35 AM

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well if you do whitebox what are you going to drive it with?

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also cisco do their own silicone for certain things

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 3:35 AM

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Cumulus Linux would be the goal

pale ridge Nov 2, 2020, 3:35 AM

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so in the DC say nexus platform you get defined performance.

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then again a lot of their stuff is now broadcom silicon

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I have had a look at Cumulus

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it is linux 🙂

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 3:37 AM

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I think software defined is the future, at least outside of the truly high bandwidth scenarios. Those definitely still need asics

pale ridge Nov 2, 2020, 3:37 AM

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the goal is to get a version of AWS on prem

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so do labels rather then routing

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but they are not giving up that secret

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Can do something similar with VMwares distributed port groups.

pale ridge Nov 2, 2020, 3:38 AM

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NSX?

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 3:38 AM

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More steps, but same outcome. And no, just esxi in a vSphere cluster. I haven’t actually mucked about with nsx much

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Or at all, really.

pale ridge Nov 2, 2020, 3:40 AM

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it all depends on what you are trying to achieve really

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also I did notice Linus did a bit with Cisco a little while ago and then stopped

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where is the Nexus ACI DC upgrade!

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 3:42 AM

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I think Cisco is making to many business mistakes with their licensing model, geared towards only big organizations, making them lose the mid-tier and below markets.

pale ridge Nov 2, 2020, 3:42 AM

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they fucked up big time when it went from C1 to DNA

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 3:42 AM

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They have no answer for ubiquiti and mikrotik there, and the smaller networking companies are starting to punch up.

pale ridge Nov 2, 2020, 3:43 AM

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i bought like 1 mill of C1 and 2 years later found out they had to be rolled into DNA at some point

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i was not happy

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 3:44 AM

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I do, however, love all of their discovery protocols. Makes enumerating a network very easy!

pale ridge Nov 2, 2020, 3:44 AM

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i do not really work in the soho space

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we have a bit of meraki but just to try it

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 3:45 AM

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Most of our customers are enterprise/nation state level. I’ve seen it all kind of ways.

pale ridge Nov 2, 2020, 3:45 AM

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Meraki and little stuff i designed for a company that has little IT skills

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and does not require feathers in the big bother stuff

thorny vector Nov 2, 2020, 3:49 AM

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But yeah, going back to your original question. Definitely more than “turn of rooter, turn back on”. Even if that is the level of questions we get most of the time. It’s also kinda the defacto homelab channel of the server.

pale ridge Nov 2, 2020, 4:03 AM

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sometimes works

pure karma Nov 2, 2020, 4:16 AM

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hi

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im trying to figure out whether or not i should run a wired connection or not

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because when i look at router speeds of wired V internet

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i see things like this

pale ridge Nov 2, 2020, 4:17 AM

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always yes if you can 🙂

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do you mean wired vs wifi?

pure karma Nov 2, 2020, 4:18 AM

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📎 ddddddddddddddddddddddddddd.PNG

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why is the wifi speed higher?

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it leads me to believe i should run wireless if anything

pale ridge Nov 2, 2020, 4:19 AM

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are they both internet connections?

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as in these are the things you connect to your modem with or to the internet?

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sorry i live in a CLI

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wired is always going to be better

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as it is a physical medium

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wifi is a shared spectrum

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so you compete with all other things and interference sources.

pure karma Nov 2, 2020, 4:23 AM

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hmmm

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okay

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ill just go wired to be safe

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thank you

pale ridge Nov 2, 2020, 4:24 AM

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So we are talking form you computer to the internet right?

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i would always wired

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but that is me

pure karma Nov 2, 2020, 4:26 AM

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yeah

pale ridge Nov 2, 2020, 4:29 AM

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it all depends on your situation

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is wired easy?

waxen saddle Nov 2, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Wired if you can do it, is always going to be better.

finite salmon Nov 2, 2020, 4:44 AM

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If I had 2 routers with a network splitter, would I have 2 public ip addresses?

unborn sluice Nov 2, 2020, 4:53 AM

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T_pepeWEIRD

jolly sluice Nov 2, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Nooooo

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Wait

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Pls check it and inform me GWcentralPikaLUL

unborn sluice Nov 2, 2020, 5:26 AM

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it would split it to

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10.18.12.8 :
router 1 = 10.18
router 2 = 12.8

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pepoJuice

jolly sluice Nov 2, 2020, 5:59 AM

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is that public IP or local IP

native cradle Nov 2, 2020, 8:32 AM

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because you have to license them
@topaz quarry So this is why the make it hard to buy enterprise networking equipment for anyone but big enterprise and not residential or small/medium business? Is this true about other "enterprise" networking companies like Aruba, Ruckus, Huawei etc?

unborn sluice Nov 2, 2020, 9:34 AM

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Openwrt ftw

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pogchamp1

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Routers and pc should have hazy boundaries

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Use your pi as access point, no one cares

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Virtual router?

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I mean that's just like Putting components together

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Like some people use their laptops s access point

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kekwait

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V never stops

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Soon we can run VMs in our smart devices

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I can't wait to run Linux on the light on my room

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uncomfortable

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Smart light plus access point is easily the best iot device

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I dunno if someone already did that

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Your smart light is now vulnerable to ransomware

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What a great day to live

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Yea we were discussing that

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Iot device is the dumbest to ransomware unless you can infect other devices

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That's when I realized my smart light can be turned off outside of my network

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uncomfortable

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Who tf needs to turn off the light outside

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I didn't even need to open a port

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0 security 100% convenient

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Forget security, light go brrr

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Ah yeah security in cost of performance

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You should create functions on the fly

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Wouldn't bother with the performance too much tbh

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It's secure

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i'm basically JITing JS from C++
Perfectly balanced

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As all things should be

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If it doesn't cost a day to write the simple things, what's the point

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ricardo

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Create templates for your JavaScript functions

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So you could create js functions in c++ generics

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kekwait

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One step closer to calling c++ a scripting language

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KeanU

native cradle Nov 2, 2020, 10:01 AM

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I don't mean to be specific about the definition of enterprise and I am more than aware that there are other companies I listed, hence why I said etc. I want to know about how licensing works and if it's just a Cisco thing, not what the definition of enterprise.

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Oh this makes so much more sense now