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and the linuxserver people maintain an even easier docker image to deploy
keep in mind the people developing nextcloud have the mindset
deploy it securely or don't deploy it at all
https://xkcd.com/349/ ever relevant
What's the max speed of 2.4 ghz wifi on LAN
@cursive mist theoretical max is 600
Ok
it will never reach that in real world conditions though
deploy it securely or don't deploy it at all
@topaz quarry Do you have a guide on how to do this with FreeNAS?
no, because sane people don't deploy applications on FreeNAS
FreeNAS is a storage platform
they tried to add hyper-convergence (applications+storage), but honestly
they've broken plugins so many times i'm like bro
jails are not the way
lol
your phone should be kissing your AP with the most expensive AP you could find
all cell phones were kept 4 rooms away
I can't switch from FreeNAS
yeah i mean im standing next to my ap ac pro with my laptop on ac on 5ghz 80width and im still only getting 400-500
All of my data is on it
you can use a VM
and im on gigabit
people run FreeNAS as the storage platform and then use another box for services
that's the intended use
when FreeNAS first came out it didn't even have any of this
the closest thing you can do to that is a run a LInux VM
allow your storage to safeguarded by FreeBSD (good), allow LInux to run services (good)
I don't trust LInux with core duties like routing or storage
i do trust linux with running applicatios
All of this doesn't matter
I can't switch from FreeNAS, and I can't install something else on the machine
Or I'll lose all my data
you can install VMs . . .
we can't help you with FreeBSD Jails
all the people who actually understand them are dead
I don't trust LInux with core duties like routing
OpenWRT shivers
laughs in my crappy AsusWRT router
vyos gets a strong runners up
@mellow heart to prove my point iXystems is moving away from Jails to LInux containers for their retail product TrueNAS with TrueNAS scale (https://www.truenas.com/truenas-scale/)
because they never got jails to be user friendly
they're literally running linux containers in FreeBSD because that's easier than making jails friendly
think of how hard the former is
I understand that this isn't the "proper" way of doing it. I don't have the knowledge or skill to do it any other way.
If you can help walk me through another solution, awesome! If you can help solve this, that would also be awesome!
I'll take anything just to get this working and not lose my data
if you install a VM, FreeNAS won't explode
just youtube docker nextcloud
okay seriously if this guy in this youtube channel can understand and explain it
i think you can too
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watch all the videos
all 86 of them
genuinely understand FreeNAS
Decent video but LACP does not load balance based on bandwidth contrary to his belief
Got it working WITHOUT spending hours on these videos lol
Well you don't need to watch a month worth of videos to setup a NAS
you'll mess it up again on FreeNAS
because the plugins aren't stable
but gg for now
also setting up a NAS, no
setting up a NAS with containerized applications, you should probably have a Disaster Recovery solution in place
like what do you do when the application stops working
other than spam stack overflow and cry
you should still watch them to understand the platform you're using
I grabbed a beer, watched 3 YT videos and setup Zabbix/Grafana in docker and tossed a backup of the container in Gdrive in an hour or two. Fight me

at least you get it though
Bold statement. "error-$h1ts broke" hmmm, ctrl+c, google.com, ctrl+v. Pretty much sums up what I would do. I already have a lot I need to focus on in networking to deep dive into containers.
that's what i actually do really
But what translates is backup and what if x breaks
Mainly why I don't have a NAS. I store my handful of important files on Gdrive and let the guys behind the scene do what they do best.
i store stuff on SAN
burn stuff to blueray discs
call it a day
if the SAN blows up
i have physical media
i agree storage is hard
i'm working on ways to make it less dumb
I have my pc upstairs and am using a wifi range extender plugged into the wall and connecting it to my pc via an ethernet cable. I'm getting around 98 mbps with this, would I get higher speeds if I changed to a pcie wifi card?
I should at some point create a remote backup solution but I just prefer physical copies.
rsync <3
tell me more about this rsync
@ember haven its just a tool to synchronize filesystems
commonly used for backups
once you've made the initial transfer, and modify files, any subsequent synchronizations will only transfer files that were changed
rsync ~ user@remote-host:/home/backups/
something like that
copies entire home folder to a remote machine
naw, we should all locally mount s3 buckets to replicate to
backblaze has s3 bucket support :/
Yeah I used rclone
If it can't read the admin page, how can it be trusted to work at all? You may need to replace the router.
it worked for like 3 days
i dont think so
like i did the steps to factory reset it
but it still kept my settings
so idk
like hold the button for 30 sec, unplug while holding the reset button for 30 seconds, then replug but continue holding the reset button for another 30 seconds
ill try that out
i have a ac1700 router if that helps
from what ive read it says to hold down the reset button for 7 seconds
but that hasnt worked
Does anyone know if a spoofed MAC address resets when restarting your PC? Also on a dynamic wifi network if that means anything.
How are you spoofing the MAC?
What is a dynamic wifi network?
just looking for an answer on the matter
Well how you are spoofing the MAC matters on if it clears on reboot
Depends how its done. What is the need to spoof?
well, i play old school runescape and for some reason my primary isp doesn't allow for it to start up
but for some reason when i changed my mac address yesterday it worked instantly
MAC address wouldn't be involved unless there was security on just your MAC
the method i used to change it was via registry
If it was changed in registry it should not change back
would changing my router to like bridge mode or something fix the issue?
Unless your MAC was manually blocked or some type of kid controls, it should not have been an issue.
since my router didnt originally come with my isp thing
yeah i'd say that wouldn't be the cause, but it's odd because i checked admin tools and there's no block or restriction
thanks for the reply juan
this might mean my isp is also trying to limit my pc usage
Your ISP will only be able to see the MAC of your router, any device behind your router MAC address is hidden. Something on the router blocking the MAC or hence your local IP
gonna give them a call and try to find out what's up later on
@waxen saddle sounds like a buzzword
lol. Very much so.
@tame carbon don't give them ideas for SD-WLAN
SD-WAN has moved to encompass pretty much all aspects at this point
Like Juniper's Contrail was just WAN but now that they bought Mist last year will configure WAN, FW, switches and Mist APs
@tame carbon I've been wanting a solution like that for some time now, any easy tutorial I can read/watch?
For rsync
@ember haven read the documentation on it
its pretty straightforward
if you want rsync to be a scheduled job, use cron
man rsync
Is cron part of rsync or is it something else?

Any complications there?
cron is also linux :P
windows users' problems lol
I mean, you want to make backups
rsync is ment from server to server
or from nas to server
on windows... well. idk xD
he has a UDMpro, one of their larger PoE switches, and a 10gigabit switch in a stack
@flint matrix so it has the ISP modem to a 10 gigabit switch, then to the dream machine and from the dream machine to the PC, access points... ? is it correct?
I wanted to just have the ability to sync my laptop and pc while I'm away
but i don't think we should be emulating his network behavior
@topaz quarry but that's the only way to make a network, right? otherwise how would you do it
ping me if u speak to me
@ember haven https://syncthing.net/
I use this to exchange music libraries with my friends
Syncthing is similair dropbox, without the centralized file store
It runs as a headless program in the background
Can I use that like Google drive?
and has a web UI to manage it
its not centralized
so its between two computers
lan, or across the internet
Ahh
but the network itself is public
so when you create a shared folder
you can get a link, which other users can use to 'subscribe' to
and it will synchronize directories between those two machines
I can whitelist those though right
Is it only between two devices?
Seems like it could be used to sync a network of devices
yeah its for however many users you want
download and try it out
its very easy to use
I can't really try out with more than myself rn
But yeah I'll play around with it, thanks
I can finally share code for my projects using this and not have to worry about many different versions
code?
@ember haven bruh
use git.
code is shared using content tracking, not file tracking.
git is far superior for this. in every way possible.
@ember haven https://syncthing.net/
@tame carbon = OneDrive
@round osprey its not
why
but with onedrive u can sync between multiple pc's
centralized data storage ?
so how syncthing works?
Directly between machines
it uses cloud too
yes, but it doesnt store files there
it only uses their cloud to discover and connect to other clients
its peer to peer based
there's another one, similair
which has a cool concept
The InterPlanetary File System is a peer-to-peer hypermedia protocol designed to make the web faster, safer, and more open.
ipfs
also no
When you look up a file to view or download, you're asking the network to find the nodes that are storing the content behind that file's hash.
ipfs makes unique fingerprints for every file, and distributes this through hash tables
yeah, but the nodes that host those files, can be found using the hash
its not in a datacenter, rather, any computer running ipfs that has that file
idk of any practical uses of ipfs
but the concept is very cool
ipfs://yourhash to reach the file
Dang
yeah lol it destroyed my head
How would I use git
ipfs://yourhashto reach the file
@tame carbon from any place?
@round osprey as long as your browser has ipfs support
yes
thats the idea
I'm not too familair with the specifics of ipfs
@round osprey as long as your browser has ipfs support
@tame carbon is ipfs a protocol now?
ipfs sounds like a fun project lol
aaa
I just came across it, when I looked for alternatives for dropbox, onedrive, google drive and the likes
settled on syncthing ultimately
Ahh
because more practical
okey okey now I understand
I want offline downloads of remote filesystems
Crystal, how would I use git?
ipfs needs to be online
@ember haven https://guides.github.com/activities/hello-world/
I'm not really understanding why git would be much better
if you manage code
git is the way to go
individual changes you make are 'comitted' as a block of changes
and you can go back to any version, at any time
But I use matlab a lot
work collaboratively, on same project
merge changes
and stuff like that
pretty much the defacto standard for projects
git is used everywhere
github is one of the places to host git projects
but git doesnt need a server
you can use it locally
I gotta learn this so I can teach my friends to use it then...
if you want to collaborate with others, a server is needed
because you push your changes to the remote server
and other users pull your version from the server
and if they also made changes (commits), and say, you both modified the same file
you can resolve these conflicts with git, and push a merged version
how else do you 'organize' working on software with 1000s of people ? :D
Idk
git was developed out of the need to collaborate with 1000s of people on linux
same guy who invented linux, invented git
git tracks content, so if you modify a line of code
git sees only that line that you changed
images cannot be treated the same way, since its a binary file
I have github desktop rn
git is typically a commandline program
there are however, other tools for it
This is commonly used by noobs
Hahaha
git stores its files in a hidden folder .git in the root of your project
yeah its like a normal directory/project
and whenever I want to update it, i can push it out?
yeah, so you make changes
then add them to your changelist, and commit them with a message
like "Fixed feature foo"
then, you push this commit
to the server
Ahh
anyone else, can then git pull to update their local branch
I gotta make this a habit then
command line???
you can then add it to git tracking with git add hello.txt
@ember haven sourcetree does this for you
oh
like I said, git is commandline, only noobs use a GUI
but yeah git add file
and then
git commit -m "some new cool feature"
git push
if you want to download the entire project, if you don't have any code at all
you git clone <url to project>
and that downloads all the files
and checks out the latest version
This is what sourcetree makes it look like ^
you see commits in that list, with their message
the 'tree' on the left side, is a visual representation of how versions are linked to themselves
if you scrolled all the way down to the beginning
the first commit should be there
I have projects that I started in 2014, that have over 900 commits on them now xD
Wow
and you can make tags on commits, to do release and version tracking
Hmmm
but the idea, is that the entire project history is in the repository
since all the modifications made, since the first initial code push, is the latest version
Would I have to create another repository "file" in the place I store my code?
if you want to put an existing project under git
just go to the root directory of that project
and run git init
this doesnt modify any files
it just creates the hidden .git directory
does the repository look in the entire file?
no, the entire repository is in that .git/ directory
but the 'current' version you have checked out
is in your file structure
if you went git checkout -b some-older-version
it changes the files on disk, to what they were in that older version
and you can just jump back to latest with git checkout master
the "checked out" version is the one, you have currently on disk
All of this may seem like magic
but once you use git, this is all makes sense
Lol I understand how it's possible to do this, I'm just trying to understand from which perspective I should be viewing how git does things
Because there's several ways for this type of thing to be structured
I think of it as this: your latest version of the project, is the initial version + ALL the modifications made since then
this latest 'branch' is the master
Yeah I get the concept
Just not the file storage/usage
you merge develop onto master
I understand all the master develop commit stuff
git has an internal database, that has this entire project tree and history
thats stored in .git
but you dont ever see or interact with this
you use the git command to make it do things
yeah, sourcetree just sees that git folder
sourcetree uses git commands
its just, you dont see it
Set up a git repository: git init creates a new repo, git clone copies an existing repo, git config configures your Git installation from the command line
I'd teach myself first
and then share it
git tracks file content
so text
and code is usually text
there's a special place in hell for matlab users, don't worry
Lolol
yeah but I had to implement math logic from a simulink project, for a microcontroller.
not fun
and the people who made the simulink stuff were too stupid
I like it because of how easy it is to manipulate matrices and such
wait
lol
to understand that microcontrollers speak only machine code
Yeah the conversion isn't nice
should i use the mac address of my old router
is that the reason why i cant access of my router admin page?
@thick minnow your conversation got lost in the above
basically i cant access my router admin page again
What's mercurial???
@ember haven Hg. another version control system, similair to git, it also tracks content
but less common
and what's LF and CRLF?
line endings
used for what?
so, the control character that is used to denote line endings (when you press enter key)
Ahh ok
windows uses CRLF (Carriage return, Linefeed)
mac does CR (carriage return)
and linux is LF (linefeed)
Weird ok
yes
@ember haven ever used line ending literals in code?
like a string with a newline?
"some\n string"
yeah
\n is a newline
\r is carriage return
windows mac and linux just all use different defaults for that
does anybody know why when i do a speed test i get 400-500 mpbs but when i try and download somthing i get only 60-200
legacy stuff, from the days of the typewriter xD
@sacred plover maybe server on other side isn't as fast
Ahh
when you get highspeed internet, you realize bunch of servers don't give you full speed
Server bottleneck :3 the worst XD
but its like any download i do
Your internet is too fast
lol you think so
@sacred plover you probably arent the only one using that server :P
ok thx
a peasant with a 10mbit connection wont notice this
but someone with a 500meg line, will
only place where I get the true download speeds that I pay for
is with steam
What's an SSH key??
steam servers are blazing fast
@ember haven SSH is a way to remotely log onto a computer or system, its also what git uses to transfer data
SSH key is a way to use public/private key cryptography to authenticate
doesnt use a password
instead, uses a key
Is there a convenient way to remote login to my pc with my laptop
on windows?
yeah
The world really wants me to switch to linux
its just that windows is garbage for developers and sysadmins
see, I used to develop on windows and deploy on linux
but then I had to write programs that interact with things like filesystem
and then suddenly, you realize, that even that has OS specific quircks
so I made my development system same OS as my deploy environment
and dont ever want to go back
Lol I see
You know what I hate in windows the most?
There's no easy and quick way to get to your home folder
you have to manually pin it to quick access
HAHA YEAH
There's so many quirks about windows that I don't really like
but
I've learned too much to justify an easy switch rn
is there like a way to portfoward router to like all my parts, lol i know it a stupid question
@thick minnow forward all ports?
yeah pretty much
some routers have a DMZ feature
cause everytime i want to change a port i have to reset my router
allows you enter a local IP of a machine, that is responsible for all unforwarded traffic
you gotta tell me everything ahead of time
cause one i reset my router i only got like 1 minute to do everything
no phone with mobile dataplan?
phone broke lol
F
having a new one sent to me rn
every ISP has their own shitty variant of a router
Idk how they work
nor do I want to learn
Just look for DMZ somewhere in settings
or forward a big range of ports xD
well i upgraded my factory router to a netgear ac1700
idk anything about that
<-- uses mikrotik only
@thick minnow either forward individual ports, or forward a range of ports
or DMZ
quite stupid actually
that you have to restart a router to apply settings
well not to apply settings
i have to reset my router to access the admin page
im pretty sure i factory reset my router and it worked for 3 days
but now its doing the same damn thing again
and im not about to spend another 100 bucks on a router
So a repository is a folder?
and i dont have the slightest clue on how to fix it

like im thinking its the firewall
but like at this point ive been troubleshooting for 3 damn days
<---- uses ubnt only @tame carbon
if you can spend 100 bucks on a new router, get the hap ac3
project for today will be to get wireguard setup
i got this router like a year ago
yes its old but it has 5ghz and 2.4ghz wifi
guest network
all this good stuff
guest network is basic stuff
and i dont want to throw away more money on a router that will probably get the same issue
nah, @tame carbon is a microtik shill, I don't think that will happen with the mikrotik router
what happens if I lower the frequency like from 80 mhz to 20 mhz on my wifi
you mean, changing the channel width?
it depends on what the radio(wifi) enviroment is like
no, like other people's wifi
well is there a way to make it where my wifi reaches further
whats TX power
transmit power, I doubt consumer routers let you adjust that
k den
thing is my parents have had it for a super long time so
maybe its just getting worse with age who knows
@peak cloak shilling implies I get money from mtik
used the wrong terms
Anyone understands why WiFi devices in the not working diagram can ping the pfSense box, the dns servers, other devices, other public ips but not browse to the pfSense box by ip or ANY FQDN?
Both APs are Technicolor TG799vac Xtream ISP provided gateways/routers
And all devices show up in pfSense DHCP leases as active and online
internet and dns works tho right?
this is where a network tap comes in handy xD
either with two ethernet interfaces on a computer, or a dedicated tap
@waxen scroll yeah. All wired devices can access everything w/o issues.
@tame carbon would a tap work when thereโs only issues with wireless access?
right but it sounds like DNS and internet work on wireless too?
It gets the correct settings from the dhcp server yeah, and can ping public ips as well
im concerned you have two APs that arent enterprise grade
perhaps turn them off one at a time and try testing
I havenโt noticed any difference which AP I connect to wirelessly, if thatโs what you mean?
In the working config yeah, but not when trying to figure out why stuff doesnโt work. They had the same SSID in the non-working config a few RTFDs ago
Would the tap be able to analyze the traffic between ie pfSense and hallway ap or between the living room and hallway aps without actually being a device on the network, or how does it work?
yes, but its a device on the network
@hazy sandal wait, so tldr, wireless can't access internet but wired can?
same network on pfSense?
Yeah
Are they both on the same network
Yeah
so i'd normally tell you to do a tcpdump on the pfsense, and you still can try... but the reason tcpdump isnt reliable is because if pfsense decides to drop the traffic tcpdump might not see it
And they somewhat can access internet by pinging ips
do a trace to 1.1.1.1
cause this is the networking channel I assume you all can help with my modem cause it decided to not be connected right now?
Yeah, but any rule affecting WiFi would affect wired as well, shouldnโt it? Theyโre all on lan in pfSense
you're right unless the rules got screwed up
like you only allowed part of the DHCP range
does it work if you plug your laptop into the port where the wifi AP is plugged in?
so whats left but to blame the crap wifi 
Nah, thereโs only the default allow lan to all and anti lockout rule active on lan.
It works on that port yeah.
Yeah
have you ran a traceroute?
From pfSense of from a wireless device?
*slapp @rocky badge . he can reach the internet fine, not the pfsense mgmt IP. tell him how to tcpdump it cause i only ubnt
mtik has torch 
Not targeting the external ip specifically, but public ips work fine
oh because I asked you this and you said you couldn't access the internet lmao
to tcpump pfSense
I after that said they can ping, but whatever, easy to miss ๐
/usr/sbin/tcpdump -i mlxen0 replace mlxen0 with your interface
if you want to pipe into wireshark from Windows echo (8) | "C:\Program Files\PuTTY\plink.exe" -no-antispoof -l root -pw <PW> <router IP> /usr/sbin/tcpdump -i mlxen0 -w - | "C:\Program Files\Wireshark\Wireshark.exe" -k -i - update paths and info as needed
lmao you've clearly had pfsense problems before
Nah, I like wiresharking stuff
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@hazy sandal stupid question. you're trying to reach the pfsense using 10.10.10.254 and not its public IP, right?
Yeah
Are you on windows or linux
k. just making sure
Doesnโt work on WiFi, but works wired. Both win and Debian 10
Routes ok? nothing blocking it on those?
its the same LAN subnet, should have a local route regardless
You can't assume anything with Windows ๐
lmao
@rocky badge did you know you can make a tap with windows or linux?
I need a dual nic pc for that, right?
Okey. Dammit. My only multi nic box is the pfSense one ๐ฃ
pfSense can bridge
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@rocky badge have you tried tnsr in a lab environment?
But I might be able to pull the card from an old xp box my kids are using, disconnected obviously ๐คฃ
uh oh. heres packet capture king
I read one of their blog posts that says its free for noncommerical use
it is
but I wonder if it supports any of the plugins that work on pfsense
I want to replace the edgerouter
@waxen scroll right. it seems to have that power advantage
but what if the new intel cpus use only like 5W
i can consider it again
Iโll look into tapping it tomorrow ๐ hope I can get this to work. Thanks for the tips and tricks! They sure will come to use somehow sometime! ๐
maybe in tiny form factor but thats gonna be a weak CPU... no packet switching all packets hit cpu
cpu 100%
gross
the blog post mentioned someone using a xeon cpu, quad core, at 3.5+ ghz and it handled 40gbps traffic fine
but thats a lot more power.
ive seen laptops cpu hit 100% just from 1gb traffic incoming on their NIC
ouch lol thats awful
@little schooner, @chrome hound does roughly 10Gbps on pfSense with a 4790K iirc.
I use a 4460 and I can do Gigabit just fine.
even 5gbps is fine for my use case
its good to hear though
heh i used to have that cpu
thats when I upgraded to the 8700k
im very pleased multiple people in here are excited about wireshark, tcpdump, taps, IT change process, documentation
Yeah my desktop is a 8700K
tcpdump is awesome. I used it the other day to remotely capture traffic from camera hosts and see if they were making telnet or ssh connections out to the internet
its still trying to make telnet connections out but no more ssh
the camera firmware upgrade didn't change that, and I was hoping it would
I can disable ssh service now in the new firmware
its from china, of course not
hikvision... yes a china brand
edgerouter has tcpdump built in so its so fast to verify stuff with
I get the answer immediately
yep
i love that about it
pfSensed as well ๐
good stuff.
tnsr with a quad core is what I want to try at my moms house.
to see what its all about
thats like testing in prod
your PCI lane will also slow down your line speed you can process
thank you. another pfsense hater
I got backups units handy
๐คฉ
man this arris surfboard doesn't want to give me a stable network connection
arris told me off once on a warranty claim
told them ๐ you're taking this back whether you want to or not
convinced amazon to take it back way out of return window
this thing worked for like a year or more properly
only more recently doing this to me
@chrome hound ๐
Tracing route to cloudflare.com [2606:4700::6811:af55]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms router.home.vlan.ipv6.ryois.me [2001:470:e204:3::1]
2 32 ms 29 ms 33 ms tunnel600116.tunnel.tserv13.ash1.ipv6.he.net [2001:470:7:4ba::1]
3 28 ms 37 ms 28 ms 10ge2-2.core1.ash1.he.net [2001:470:0:90::1]
4 39 ms 74 ms 39 ms 13335.ash.equinix.com [2001:504:0:2:0:1:3335:1]
5 31 ms 29 ms 30 ms 2606:4700::6811:af55
@tame carbon Why not just use github desktop app instead of sourcetree? Are there any differences?
@ember haven or you could just use git
that's what I do
the differences are just more features
ahh ok
github, gitlab, etc. are all based on git
you could host your own git server too
just plain old git
@ember haven basically what he says ^
I just use commandline, and any remote
at work we use bitbucket
privately I use gitea
Bitbucket 
@peak cloak I use a mix of git and Visual Studio Code's git lol, and my hosted Gitlabs
I have a gitlab at home and a gitlab at school
I love Gitlab's CI/CD lol
I should get gitlab setup
Boy do I need to get my proxmox machine back up
I may be able to get a free r710 from school
but those are loud and suck power
probably just gonna save the drives and other parts
i have an r710
it does suck power. its not too loud as long as you arent loading the CPU up. but at idle you arent going to want to keep it in a living area
if you have a basement thats best. you wont really hear it upstairs unless CPU is loaded up
yeah, I worked a little bit with it. My networking stuff is in the basement
@peak cloak https://blob.rocks/gRK40o0laG.png
I also have my gitlab doing discord notifs lol
nice
lmao who's your ISP
@thick minnow Optus - in Australia
ok
im in my router settings rn
Normally I cant access it
any ideas
thinking firewall
could it possibly be my ISP blocking me from accessing my admin page?
Should get my ip dynamically from my isp or should i set it as static?
same thing with my DNS, dynamic or static?
that's your public ip
k so i dont care about that
what about seeting my default DMZ server to 192.168.1.0
think thatll change anything?
idk anything how those weird routers do DMZ
is that like admin control panel or naw
no
dang
i have a remote management setting
think that can help me access my admin page or probably not
maybe, idk what's in it
what are you even trying to achieve, why DMZ
once i exit out of my router admin page i cant access it until a router restart
he doesn't know what DMZ does @unborn sluice
so im wondering if one of these settings is interfering with that
I feel like it's just a firmware problem
@little schooner tell me about change process
ive factory reset my router
fully?
i believe so
did the wifi SSID reset?
i have a little reset button i need press using a paper clip or something
held that down for 7-10 seconds
no like after i exit out of it, it refuses to connect
i think so
like i never changed it
like thing is
i could care less about having access to it
but me and a bunch of my friends have a server that i host
wait wait
and the port changes everytime i launch it
We are asking if the SSID of the WiFi changed or not
my router has Name(SSID)
that hasnt changed
not sure if im looking at the right thing or not though
and the port changes everytime i launch it
isn't this app configurable
not the router's concern
from what ive tried it isnt
like its a minecraft lan server that i port foward to my router
and then they can play on it like that
so if there is im more than open for suggestions
in minecraft
on the server or on the router
so everytime you launch the minecraft server it uses a different port
are running on windows or linux
Not the router's problem tbh
windows
there's your problem
?
avoid running servers on windows at all costs

well yeah
I've ran MC servers, all you do is open the port on the machine and then just specifiy the port for MC to use in the server.properties file
but like literally we have 5 people on at time max
i use a LAN method

so that way i can launch the server and minecraft at once
so this is not a dedicated server
nope
yeah
yeah
OHHHH
boom, expose the LAN minecraft that isn't built to be secure
doesn't it use broadcast or something too?
not a clue
spam the broadcast address with minecraft
it's not hard
cause its modded and i dont have a clue how to do that
like for the dedicated server stuff
ive gotten it to like boot up and everything
but like
idk how to add mods or let me friends join
I mean you're exposing an app to the internet that was meant for LAN
yeah
not the most secure
https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-make-minecraft-server-on-ubuntu-20-04/
I like this tutorial, set it up as a systemd
That's what got me started
i dont have ubuntu
checkmate
WSL exists
not a clue what that is
no, god no
good gracious
centos VM on proxmox
thank god
like when it comes to routers
port fowarding is like the max i know
so i dont have the slightest clue what any of that means
what's your linux experience
at this point, i might just direct you to linode
since minecraft is an app(?) ready to be deployed

yes
i 100% know what that means and understand that fully
but for those who dont know
care to explain?
Linode is a cloud computing platform
oh
^
neither do I
like me and friends only play for like a few hours a week
yeah
miencraft realms exists for a reason though
you have an older computer somewhere

for people who want to have a minecraft server but don't know the "how to" in servers
though am not sure about modding realms
modded though
@unborn sluice I mean MC servers is what got me into it
so idk how to deal with that
yeah, not on realms
minecraft still lel
realms is for kids

but seriously though, even for friends I would not consider realms
alright ima try to do the dedicated minecraft server thingy
please dont' use WSL
@thick minnow look for an older computer somewhere
i dont need it to run 24/7
I use an optiplex 3010 for all my things
yeah
so you can just turn it off
you could even make it turn on at certain times
DELL bios lets you do that
what's the spepc of optiplex 3010
any reason why i couldnt just use my main desktop?
a optiplex 3010 is available in my area for $99ish
but i3 3rd gen
good catch
i might just buy one lel
but my freenas is i5-4th gen
and all it does is store files
where are you?
Asia
oh
I was able to find a full sized server cabinet for free
it was like a 2 hour drive though
In PA
there are no IaaS / PaaS in my city
so no free used server stuff for me
Some of the VPS providers are in like 2 cities away
NJ/NY area has a bunch of stuff. Most of it is old though
As long as the used server doesn't suck up much power
Rx20's or HP G8's would be the lowest gen I would go
I actually want towers instead of racks
both are nice
racks take up lots of space if you don't have a rack
towers you can just place anywhere
Dell Optiplex 9020 i5 4thgen / 4gbram for $240ish

dang the prices
I just want free server stuff
might move to a diff city or country for free servers

might just build a pi cluster
so ima see if it works
getting a lot of errors
but thats future me problem
probably 5 minute future me problem
old
$20 for not posting
oh, didn't see that
not worth it even if it worked
this however is nicer
from where? linode?
windows
oh
dedicated MC server?
are you running from cmd-line
how do you know it's crashing
give it more memory
paste what you are typing here
i created a bat file with this





