networking

[clear igloo]

They 100% are

[tame carbon]

they deliberately do not roll out networks in other regions

[unborn sluice]

$150 for 150/150 no cap

[clear igloo]

They've been caught bribing and handing laws to politicians saying "Pass this" and the politicians have done it

[unborn sluice]

That's $1 for a mbit

[tame carbon]

59 euros for 250/250mbit no cap ofcourse

But my plan with all the extras, comes to around 120/month

@clear igloo thats what they use the FCC for

its ment to protect consumers

but not really

[unborn sluice]

Good on paper

[clear igloo]

You mean the organization that said "ISPs are friends"?

😛

[unborn sluice]

ISP are friends and not food

[tame carbon]

FDA approved internet

[clear igloo]

GMO free I hope

[unborn sluice]

How good am I at derailing the convo

[clear igloo]

That is my idea! NOBODY STEAL!!

patents GMO free internet plans

[tame carbon]

https://www.uspto.gov/

Intellectual property

@unborn sluice https://i.imgur.com/hIKqTzH.png

love how easy some of these things are :)

https://i.imgur.com/o8eJFhb.png

router with built in DoS tools

Flood Ping

[unborn sluice]

Where can I use that though

[tame carbon]

https://i.imgur.com/ho3iQBQ.png

[unborn sluice]

Btw, is this the hap ac2

[tame carbon]

nah thats my RB4011

lemme get the specs from the hap

https://i.imgur.com/6o9JJbH.png

the hAP doesnt have a lot of storage space

but it has a usb port

[unborn sluice]

Isn't hap supposed to be better

[tame carbon]

RB4011 is better than the hAP

[unborn sluice]

My current router does have a usb port

But I don't fuck with that

[tame carbon]

the usb is either for filesystem or an LTE modem

https://i.imgur.com/TKd3dwZ.png

[unborn sluice]

Filesystem but I don't really care much

Cause I don't know what's the use for

[tame carbon]

This is the interface view of my hAP

wlan1 and 2 are 2.4 and 5GHz

But in typical dual band setups, you use the same SSID

and the device decides on 2.4 or 5

[unborn sluice]

I don't

Don't want the dual band on the same name

[tame carbon]

you can configure it otherwise

[unborn sluice]

Yea

[tame carbon]

but its just how I do it, lot easier if you have a lot of APs

[unborn sluice]

I got dual band
Then one 2.4 ( in my room)

3 AP suffices

All with a different name

[tame carbon]

yeah on mtiks youd give same name

and let CAPsMAN handle the roaming

@unborn sluice if you want to maximize the range on your AP, set the country of origin to "Democratic Republic of Congo"

they dont have regulations on max transmission power

though keep in mind

this is illegal

xD

[unborn sluice]

That's a weird configuration lol

Time to congo

[tame carbon]

https://i.imgur.com/vHJL86m.png

[unborn sluice]

I think mine is configured for us

[tame carbon]

lol, my phone's public hotspot

FBI SURVEILANCE VAN

[unborn sluice]

I'd definitely ask my fbi agent for the password

So I get free WiFi everywhere

[tame carbon]

12345678

@unborn sluice remember KRACK ?

https://www.krackattacks.com/

[unborn sluice]

My memories are hazy

[tame carbon]

MITM attack on WPA2's key exchange

then

was mostly fixed

but they came up with WPA3

which was supposed to fix WPA2's problems

https://wpa3.mathyvanhoef.com/

[unborn sluice]

Fixed, but I bet most consumer don't even update

[tame carbon]

Enter, dragonblood

So, WPA3, had a "downgrade" for backwards compatability

so older devices could still connect

so attacker requests WPA2 downgrade

[unborn sluice]

Oh nice security flaw compatible

[tame carbon]

and uses that to exploit the WPA3 network

[unborn sluice]

I just wish ap stop shipping with wep altogether

WEP must be killed

[tame carbon]

WEP not even an option on mtik

https://i.imgur.com/z9vMTgV.png

[unborn sluice]

This should be the situation for all

Instead of using wep, just remove the wpa2 passphrase altogether

[tame carbon]

@unborn sluice I had a script in early 2015, for WPA (not wpa) networks

all you needed was a crappy LTE connection

could crack any WPA network in ~20 mins

It used a deauth attack, to force a client to reconnect to the network

it then, sniffs the packets

[unborn sluice]

Ah yes I also use that deauth attack

[tame carbon]

and brute forces them, using hashcat on an Amazon S3 server

the most expensive one they have

[unborn sluice]

I like that anyone can deauth everyone

Really nice

[tame carbon]

they charge you per minute, so the script would create an S3 instance

[unborn sluice]

Imagine using deauth in public wifi

[tame carbon]

run your hashcat

then delete the instance

costs maybe.. 2-3 bucks for 1 wifi network

[unborn sluice]

S3?

[tame carbon]

oh wait not s3

[unborn sluice]

Isn't it supposed to be EC2 or ecs

[tame carbon]

EC2

ye

the ones with 4 GPUs in them

[topaz quarry]

s3 is just storage yo

[tame carbon]

I got confused ;)

[unborn sluice]

S3 is the new serverless

[topaz quarry]

that's ironfunction

which is AWS lambda's open source brawler

if it's compatible with AWS's lambda sdk

i'm gonna lose it

[tame carbon]

AWS Lambda seems...

a stupid platform to develop for

you make yourself 100% dependent on their platform

and code isnt compatible with other tools

[unborn sluice]

Hmmm

[tame carbon]

same with Azure based solutions

[unborn sluice]

I forgot where I got the info

I don't even know if it's fake

They say Azure runs on hyperv platform

[tame carbon]

@unborn sluice so happy that WSL turned out to be a big fail

because Embrace Extend Extinquish

[unborn sluice]

But I still use it in the office

[tame carbon]

oh, in those situations

I either use cygwin (mingw)

or run a VM in the background

and use terminal

[unborn sluice]

I also have cygwin and mingw

[tame carbon]

@unborn sluice have you got Xming?

[unborn sluice]

Yup

[tame carbon]

its great isnt it ? :)

[unborn sluice]

Yea, I love that I'm fucking myself by using Linux in windows

[tame carbon]

lol

my previous employer was insisting that everyone use windows

because of some government regulations (cus we had government as client)

they needed ESET antivirus

on every machine

[unborn sluice]

My company laptop is locked to windows

It's either macbook or windows

[tame carbon]

yea...

[unborn sluice]

Hell nawh apple

[tame carbon]

well

to be fair

if I had to choose a workhorse

I'd rather have a macbook

than a windows box

because mac at least has gcc, brew, macports

and a sane system layout

[unborn sluice]

I'd choose MacBook also if I would do my work in a coffee shop

I'd be the hip programmer

[elfin socket]

I'd be the hip programmer
@unborn sluice
ok doya gao

[tame carbon]

OSX has a lot of exploits right now, but so does windows

[elfin socket]

https://soranews24.com/2014/01/20/the-doya-gao-phenomenon-and-where-youre-most-likely-to-see-it/

[unborn sluice]

Atleast apple is objectively better

[tame carbon]

Apple builds crappy hardware

shafts their customers at every opportunity

[unborn sluice]

I meant os wise over windows

Not the whole machine

[tame carbon]

microsoft's close source model is just annoying

[unborn sluice]

https://soranews24.com/2014/01/20/the-doya-gao-phenomenon-and-where-youre-most-likely-to-see-it/
@elfin socket would try this one out

[tame carbon]

keeping machines alive with windows on them, is harder than it should be

if a linux machine breaks somehow

you can usually fix it

and once configured, it never really breaks itself

unless you are on arch maybe

if people want bleeding edge of linux, get a bunch of programs you normally dont get via package manager

the AUR is perfect place

[unborn sluice]

We still use centos for our application servers

[tame carbon]

CentOS was the first linux distro I ever ssh'ed into

operated by someone else

was first minecraft server I got console access to

in 2011

xD

[unborn sluice]

Awww the good memories

[tame carbon]

yum install

I remember

and it had built in anti ddos features

firewall config was quite extensive

[unborn sluice]

Firewall CMD?

[tame carbon]

I dont remember

[unborn sluice]

Must be

[tame carbon]

it was during setup

this is long time ago

after that

its just debian

[unborn sluice]

Debian/Ubuntu have ufw
Centos have firewallcmd

[tame carbon]

or debian forks

yeah

I use ufw

my private VMs use my WAN IP to expose services

all the big things like public facing webservers

those have their own public IP

[unborn sluice]

My first Linux was ubuntu, so no matter how bad people say it is, I just can't hate Ubuntu

[tame carbon]

so private vms: NAT

;D

but there's a reason for that

since I have other people using my internet

[unborn sluice]

You have more than 1 public ip

[tame carbon]

I have a contract

where they sign over the IP address

this excludes me from any liabiltiies

cus if they start downloading cp

its my name

[unborn sluice]

It's time for you to create a tor node

[tame carbon]

what

[unborn sluice]

Wrong click

Create a tor exit node if you're brave enough

[tame carbon]

I dont want to draw unwanted attention

I know weed is legal

but if they do a full search :/

[unborn sluice]

I see you don't want anti privacy letters every monday

[tame carbon]

there's probably vials of some old stuff from years ago

idk

[unborn sluice]

but if they do a full search :/
You got a butt ton then

[tame carbon]

I dont really go on benders like that anymore

I got my shit in line

fulltime work

hangovers don't work well with that

I dont have a lot

[unborn sluice]

So consumption is legal but not sale hmmm

[tame carbon]

no

I mean

[unborn sluice]

[elfin socket]

I never got used to getting knockout drunk

always had to be DD

sucks being the eldest.

[tame carbon]

I dont really drink alcohol

I feel like it literally makes me stupid

[elfin socket]

i want to cook when i do.

[unborn sluice]

What's dd

I also never got Knock out drunk

The farthest I got is migraine drunk

My head is throbbing, e.g. you can feel your pulse in your head

That's not a good experience imo

[elfin socket]

ive havent gotten so drunk in so long. kinda iffy about getting pass out drunk

[little schooner]

@unborn sluice I don't drink so the aforementioned side effects described have not the chance to formulate in me

[abstract nexus]

hey folks and friends XD

changed the PSU and it seems like that was some sort of case that destroyed the system slowly...new PSU and now lets see if i can get that smbd running again 🙂

[lunar spade]

Why does my VPN connect better to the American Servers than the Canadian ones? (I live in Calgary)

[hollow marlin]

It depends on where each server is located and the path taken

[tame carbon]

Peering

[little schooner]

@lunar spade because the laws of physics

[strong violet]

I am looking into getting 10gb internet for my home (just because I can, not because I need it). I am trying to figure out what type of router I need to handle that speed so that I can get the full 10g speed to my pc. I can find plenty or routers with SFP+ ports but I'm not sure they would let me have the full 10g throughput. Would it be best for me to build a router myself (maybe with pfsense)? The ISP just provides and SFP+ module.

[peak cloak]

I wouldn't build a router since it can't use hardware acceleration. Mikrotik has nice routers

[little schooner]

@strong violet building your own router would be the fastest, affordable option yes. But pfsense can't do 10g from what I heard. That's where their tnsr platform comes in

Like an 8 core Intel 9th gen can handle it

[waxen scroll]

i would argue its not affordable at all... you'll prob pay $300 for the hardware anyway and $10/m in power bills because its not efficient to use a desktop computer for networking

[little schooner]

I wish power could be cheaper

I pay like 9 cents already

It's too much

[waxen scroll]

@little schooner mines 6.5ish

[little schooner]

That rate is nicer

Hah, did you know it cost more for them to deliver me the electricity then it does to consume it? @waxen scroll

It's madness

[strong violet]

If I could build a router for around 600 or 700 that can comfortably handle the speed, then that is fine. I'm not so worried about the power cost. I will only be running one of them.

[little schooner]

@waxen scroll what 10g router do you know that cost around @strong violet price range?

Or @clear igloo

Or anyone else really

[waxen scroll]

i would say https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-routing-switching/products/udm-pro TBH

but im trying to find the throughput specs to confirm

if you dont want an ecosystem product i think theres a cheaper one

hmm i wonder if they are selling the 10G edgerouter anymore. its not stocked

the infinity router is $1.8k and i feel like the dream machine provides way more benifet lol

@strong violet ubiquiti has support so I would open a ticket asking what can do what you need. the only other cheaper option is mikrotik but thats not my wheelhouse

im mostly a cisco person so thats gonna hurt your wallet lol

[strong violet]

I have a very simple setup, so I won't need the ecosystem. The throughout is the main thing for me. The dream machine pro looks good if I turn off the filtering. Looks to be a max of 8gbps.

I haven't looked at cisco yet. I am mad enough to spend money on it. Lol

[waxen scroll]

i believe the ISR 4461 is the cheapest one you're gonna get for 10G throughput . 1001-X is likely next

[hollow marlin]

@waxen scroll Look at r/ubiquiti and all the love for the UDM Pro. It can, sometimes, do 10gig

[waxen scroll]

i dont doubt it can but you need to not have any features on

[hollow marlin]

Comment was sarcastic, forgot the /s

[waxen scroll]

so what about mik ?

[strong violet]

So cisco comes in at 15,000 usd. Lol

[hollow marlin]

On the cheap you can do it with the 4011 but that is only on a ROAS setup. So a 10G switch will be needed

[waxen scroll]

thats before discount

everyone gets a discount

lol

i dont remember the default discount, its like 25% or something

higher volume customers get like 65%+

a 10G switch is needed anyway cause he wants 10G all the way to the desktop

@rocky badge layer 2 UBNT distro switch. your favorite

[hollow marlin]

With the UDM Pro it has a 10G LAN that could be used for a single desktop connection. But seeing the issues people have with it I would say its a no-buy

[tame carbon]

@little schooner my router does 10G, though it has only 1x 10G and 10x 1G

$180 RB4011

and that's 10G routing

[hollow marlin]

10G on with ROAS though, switch chips are still only like 2.5 or 5gig links

[tame carbon]

@hollow marlin you are right

5x 1G on 2.5G

two 2.5G links

[strong violet]

I have a couple of the little Mikrotik 10g switches with 4sfp+ ports

[tame carbon]

@strong violet CRS305?

4x SFP+ 1x 1G

I got that paired with my RB4011 for more 10G connectivity

[strong violet]

Yes. That's the one.

[hollow marlin]

If you already have a 10G switch I would go 4011 if all you need is routing and a basic FW

[tame carbon]

easy -> hard
ufw -> mtik -> iptables

[waxen scroll]

as someone whose made iptables systems for routing.... yeaaaahhhhh

[tame carbon]

iptables is like, when all else fails

[waxen scroll]

but damn is it powerful

[tame carbon]

@waxen scroll first time I tried adding a 'New Rule' in my mtik firewall

I nearly died

https://i.imgur.com/7HExW5V.png

^ lel

[waxen scroll]

thats basically iptables GUI afaik

[hollow marlin]

Never configured IP tables but its similar to MT other than syntax

[tame carbon]

IPtables just difficult to read

and then grasp what it is it does

mtik is middle ground

most of the time now, I just copy existing rules and modify them

[strong violet]

4011 only has one SFP+ port though. I would need two. One for WAN and one for LAN.

[hollow marlin]

Thats why it needs to be setup as ROAS (router on a stick)

VLAN for the WAN and VLAN for the LAN.

[waxen scroll]

but thats only 5g

we demand 10

[hollow marlin]

No its 10g

Not using the switch chips

[waxen scroll]

o

[hollow marlin]

Its a waste and which they just added a 3 switch chip for another SFP+ port

[strong violet]

So I would plug my ISP's transceiver into my switch. Plug my 4011 into the switch with a DAC (plus everything else on my 10g network). Set up a VLAN for the WAN so it passes straight through to the router. And then a VLAN for the LAN so it comes straight out again. And that would give me the full 10g through?

[strong violet]

Cool!

Looks like it will be fun to configure

I enjoy a challenge

[tame carbon]

all you'd do on the CRS305 is some port mapping for the vlan

@hollow marlin you'd do this with bridge vlans right?

https://i.imgur.com/uxTttIt.png

because that's how I did it on my CRS305

even tested it with a 2gbit/s stream, with like 2% CPU usage

to make sure it was hardware accel

[little schooner]

Bridging is software based though, isn't it? @tame carbon

Offloading on the older mikrotik gear doesn't make sense to me

Way too confusing to configure

[hollow marlin]

@tame carbon Yeah, in the CR3xx series youll want to do it under bridge.

@little schooner Only the CR3xx series support bridged VLAN configuration with hardware acceleration. The older series does not. I don't think any other product lines support it. Again why my biggest gripe with MT is VLAN configuration

[tame carbon]

@hollow marlin how so?

I've done some vlan stuff before, but always hated configuring it

on mtik, its quite ez

[hollow marlin]

Obscurity between product lines, some bridged, some on switch chips, some switch chips can only do specific function like only read the header, etc. Config is not hard its just a mess

[tame carbon]

@hollow marlin I see

yeah

vlan config on my RB4011

is different

I registered them as interfaces

https://i.imgur.com/OxeHIDQ.png

and then if you go to bridge ports, you'll find those vlans are dynamically configured

and I guess, this 'dynamic' configuration, can be a bit... confusing

as on some occassions I have seen dynamic rules in places, but was never able to find out where its coming from

[unborn sluice]

Router rip

Rip

[dense karma]

what causes these

[waxen scroll]

your ISP had an outage and you should contact them for a credit

[topaz quarry]

the answer is based how much time do you want to put into your system

[peak cloak]

@unborn rover what's your internet service at home?

to me, most all-in-one home routers suck

[topaz quarry]

oh noe, we'll never recommend all-in-one routers here

consumer trash begon

that being said you can do stuff really cheaply but require a lot of tinkiering, or buy fully fleshed out products that do a lot of the grit for you

but they usually cost $$$

[peak cloak]

cringe

[topaz quarry]

cringe harder

asus has good ideas, their hardware and firmware just don't support it

ike the guy behind the merlin firmware was finally like lol i'm done

okay, we'll now you get to decide which routing operating system you like the most

UnTangled vs Pfsense vs OpnSense vs vyos vs more traditional routing operating systems such as Cisco's iOS

your choice in ISP depends on the choices and the reliability in your area

in my area Comcast's network is a dumpster fire

[peak cloak]

@topaz quarry need to dub it down a bit, don't think he understands, justs wants an all-in-one

[topaz quarry]

maybe it's better in your area

if people want to learn why not give stuff to lookup

[peak cloak]

mikrotik routers are nice if you are willing to learn

[topaz quarry]

oh microtik stuff is the best

but that's 9 levels of complicated

[peak cloak]

I made the mistake of buying an ER-X

[topaz quarry]

oh fuzzz

[peak cloak]

it works for now

[topaz quarry]

if i'm getting something like that i'm just gonna go microtik or roll my own box

[peak cloak]

looking for a cheap second-hand server racks to rack my things up

plus to finally be able to use a d-link switch I got for free

[topaz quarry]

@unborn rover https://www.youtube.com/user/TheTecknowledge/playlists

he's really good at explaining a lot of these very difficult networking concepts in plain english

no

cisco flattened that brand

if you want to actually utilize your connection, the following routing brands will provide a large hill to climb (I'm not saying they can't do it but you will need to network guru). Netgear, ASUS, linksys, TP-Link

this is not to say they don't have hardware that isn't usable but if you look at their routers they can perform very poorly. A lot of people think they need a better internet plan

when all they need is a better router

pfsense/opnsense can be installed on almost anything

[peak cloak]

@unborn rover you need a better router or wifi?

b/c fundamentally a router doesn't provide wifi access

[topaz quarry]

that is correct

[peak cloak]

that's an Access Points job

[topaz quarry]

internet connectivity = Access Point + Router + Modem

if you put them all in one box

all 3 roles perform poorly

most consumers don't want to shell out for discrete parts

which is why ISPs do this

ISP provides modem

[peak cloak]

^sometimes

[topaz quarry]

good ISPs provide modems

it depends on your area

[peak cloak]

@unborn rover https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/

[topaz quarry]

so look up all the Internet Providers in your area

[peak cloak]

check your area

[topaz quarry]

middle of America isn't specific enough

you have to look it up yourself

like down to the county/city level

if you're in rural America the chance of having good internet are low

also @peak cloak I recently got a https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NFXN4SS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 to help my five node cluster with 10 a gigabit backhaul for IO

i can't wait to test this thing lol

[peak cloak]

wow, that's a nice switch

lots of sfp+

you can put in your address and it will tell you all ISP's for that location

FCC broadband map

Ex:

show the ISP name as well

[ornate jungle]

1000/35 is probably Comcast. Or Cox cable.

[peak cloak]

ah ok

I would go with the first one, but check thier local website and the price

small ISP's usually have better support

[ornate jungle]

Ah yes, Blackspot Telephone Company. Just uhhh don't forget to pay your bill on time, or they'll give you the black spot and the kraken will get you on your next sea voyage.

Was making a joke about the name of the first company in your list having a black spot over it.

But yeah I agree with @peak cloak - check into their pricing, and suss out how their support is should anything go wrong.

[peak cloak]

that's good

100/month for gigabit is good

we pay 160 over here

as long as they don't raise it later like verizon does

they advertise 80/month, but in reality it's higher

do you really need 1g though

I used to have 300/30, and it works fine

[waxen scroll]

@peak cloak no. i downgraded to 100/10

[peak cloak]

you can't have 0 ping

it's impossible

yeah probobly

depending on their network, but fiber has better latency than copper

[waxen scroll]

Signals are transmitted at 2/3 the speed of light in fiber optic cables. In copper it can be faster than that.

@hollow marlin daaaa

[peak cloak]

fiber has basically no interference

[waxen scroll]

interference doesnt = latency

interference = bad CRCs, etc

[peak cloak]

@waxen scroll yeah your right

[waxen scroll]

@rocky badge spanning tree priority 0

[peak cloak]

check your connection directly out of the modem

just to check how bad/good the internet is

is your modem seperate from your router

wait, how does your network look like at home?

with coax input?

oh

so it's just a wifi issue

not an internet issue

check the speed directly from the router using an ethernet cable

they are on wifi right?

yeah, as I said before hook up directly to the router using ethernet using a laptop or something and run a speedtest

wifi sucks

results?

I just want to see how bad is it

what do you pay for?

yeah but what speeds are you paying for?

and it's an ISP provided box?

by box I mean router

complain to the ISP

hmm, yeah then I would try switching to the other local ISP

yeah

first I would switch ISP's

then work out router

actually

you may be able to reduce the cost by buying your own router

fiber providers don't use modem

depends on what your local ISP does

FiOS for example uses a GPON network, so they install ONT's on your house for "free"

Other ISP's may use a more conventional network and then if you have a router with an SFP port, they could just connect directly to the router

you could ask them

@unborn rover good video on fiber https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHrBq1iuiI4

just don't bend the fiber

[hollow marlin]

Fios is NGPON. Upgrades the PON from 2.4/1.2 to 40gig optics. NGPON for us has been in design plan for way too long

[peak cloak]

hmm, good to know I guess? what's the difference

[hollow marlin]

Functionally the same. NGPON uses a QSFP with 4 different wavelength at 10G each to use by a range of ONTs. GPON is just a single freq. that uses TDM for each ONT.

GPONs real world limit is 32 ONTs per PON all sharing the same 2.4/1.2g of bandwidth vs 32 ONTs separated in blocks of 4 with each block sharing 10G each

[peak cloak]

ah ok

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll lol

[topaz quarry]

@unborn rover you can do powerline networking or moca networking

the magic of using wires you probably already have

[peak cloak]

Problem with moca is that the adapters are expensive

[topaz quarry]

lol the adapters can be expensive yea

lol Ghost wait until you get into true networking magic

your world will open up

or your brain will become mush

[peak cloak]

I was looking into it, but in the end I ran ethernet

[topaz quarry]

i run 4 networks in my house for various reasons

WIFI, Powerline, Moca, ethernet

[peak cloak]

Ended up putting my AP in the middle of the house

[topaz quarry]

my house legit has rebar everywhere

and they fight the wifi

[peak cloak]

Europe?

[topaz quarry]

so like my house has hotel style wifi with a backhaul

no just a well made house in the US

[peak cloak]

Nice

[topaz quarry]

i'm in hurricane alley

[peak cloak]

Yeah, that's good to have

[topaz quarry]

like in my old house i was using one those all in one solutions

and it would like sorta work

it just kinda went naw

this house is to much

[peak cloak]

I started running ethernet in the home when my mom would have stability issues with the wifi b/c of a broken driver on her school laptop. It just kept disconnecting so I ran ethernet to her office and it started from there. Before, the modem, ER-x and netgear switch were all in the same place next to my pc

[unborn sluice]

[topaz quarry]

so like

networking is literally the hardest part of technology

like literally network engineers are viewed at monty python bunnies in the tech industry

get to close and you vanish

[waxen scroll]

im one and i get TRIGGERED when a server person blames the network with no troubleshoot on their part

[unborn sluice]

Network engineers be like

[topaz quarry]

a monty python bunny has joined the fray

like we have entire ochestration suites

just to manage one aspect of technology

[waxen scroll]

yeaaa the network is slow cause your SQL server is over a 10ms link

and you're the idiot who designed it that way

[topaz quarry]

hey, hey you ever get a cockroach-db problem

or more generally

a distributed SQL server problem

those problems are da best

or AWS s3 bucket problems

where they're like but it's slow

[waxen scroll]

worst ive had was self hosted exchange DB problems

[topaz quarry]

because you're getting from a bucket in california and you want it to go to Florida

exchange db is an actual dumpster fire

[unborn sluice]

Oregon servers accessing in Asia

[hollow marlin]

I prefer getting severs not working rather than enterprise reaching out to me because they lost a single ping out of 10000

[waxen scroll]

server not working is easy to fix.... its the "its slow" thats the worst

[topaz quarry]

the k8s answer to this is

is it working to slowly

restart it

[unborn sluice]

Just throttle their speed then slowly increase it when they say it's slow

[waxen scroll]

if i did BOFH at any of my workplaces and got caught i would get fired

lol

[topaz quarry]

lol wut

if this is a business case just hire a contractor

then learn how to do it yourself

[unborn sluice]

Hire lzdanger or phoenix then

Those are exclusives

[topaz quarry]

yes, well you can't vanish yoru siblings

so you'll have to fix the wifi

[unborn sluice]

Wdym phoenix

[topaz quarry]

black bag em

[unborn sluice]

Make them use 2.4ghz wifi

[topaz quarry]

or . . . just deploy your wifi correctly

and use QoS to prefer game traffic

so everyone can be happy

[unborn sluice]

QoS preferring his device

[peak cloak]

he said when he connected by ethernet it was still slow

so idk

[topaz quarry]

lol just buy your own line then

[peak cloak]

or maybe it wasn't done right

[topaz quarry]

if you're making money off your internet

[peak cloak]

idk

[unborn sluice]

What is your uplink speed btw

[topaz quarry]

So basically I’m= pro esports player ?

no monies?

yea your internet is defined by download and upload

if to many people are downloading stuff it can tank your upload

especially if you have like a 200/10 plan

or something like that

[unborn sluice]

Oh wow

[topaz quarry]

ISPs don't sell 100/1

that literally makes no sense

[unborn sluice]

How symmetrical is that

[peak cloak]

is that what they sell or is that what you get

[unborn sluice]

100/1

[topaz quarry]

well then either fix the wifi

or find another way to get to the gateway

you'll need a government agency for that

or find the modern version of pablo esocabar

and have him blag back your siblings

[unborn sluice]

[topaz quarry]

idk you said you "So basically I’m= pro esports player My wifi = lag stopping me from winning money. "

i assumed you were actually winning and getting prize money

well then enjoy what you have

[hollow marlin]

All I just read is I am pro but not really because lag but I would be if it was fixed

If you want to go "pro" then its wired or nothing

[waxen scroll]

;p

[unborn sluice]

;p

[waxen scroll]

even my chromecasts are wired

[unborn sluice]

[peak cloak]

I tried projecting to my roku, but apparently (miracast I think it's called) is only a direct wifi protocol

miracast over infrastructure exists as well but it was a pain to setup

[little schooner]

Is there an alternative to xrdp or a method used to make it very reliable when installed on something like Ubuntu Desktop or Kali Linux? I find that it doesn't always load the desktop or user profile correctly. Sign out feature is also hit or miss and the session never ends when a user is finished. Lastly, I get Color Profile prompts when a user does rdp into the machine that requires user to enter their password again

[peak cloak]

VNC?

[little schooner]

@peak cloak I have trouble with VNC too. It works but it isn't consistent

It's not stable like it's windows counterpart

[peak cloak]

spice?

[little schooner]

I haven't tried spice

[peak cloak]

or x2go?

[primal ice]

tiger vnc?

could not get vnc to work on my win 7 box but could get tiger vnc to work. /shrug

[neat agate]

My AP

[peak cloak]

looks like a router

[neat agate]

Because it originally was

[peak cloak]

configured as AP I assume

[neat agate]

Yep

[peak cloak]

in bridge mode?

[neat agate]

It can also double as a NAS, and a PBX

And, a DECT base station

[primal ice]

yeah using my buffalo dhp1750 as an AP too.

[neat agate]

These old FritzBoxes are quite versatile

[peak cloak]

My AP

simple TP-Link Omada

[neat agate]

The key to the electrical closet(where the main modem is)

And I lost the padlock key

[peak cloak]

My diy network closet

Soon to be racked up

[neat agate]

Hacksaw time, I guess

Nvm. It fell off my desk

My ISP provided modem

Cable

[peak cloak]

yeah same, top left in my pic

how is that being held on

looks sketchy

[neat agate]

Screw

Leaning against the doorsill

[peak cloak]

oh

it has a mount

makes more sense

[neat agate]

Yep

Also, when was the last time you saw a USB of this size

I use it for firmware updates only

[peak cloak]

oh wow, that's small

[neat agate]

Check #build-a-pc in a sec

[wary sequoia]

@neat agate is that a white superhub 3? how’d you get that

oh wait... different provider. looks exactly the same as my router

[neat agate]

It's a Ziggo ConnectBox

[wary sequoia]

yeah... it’s called a Virgin Superhub 3 in the UK

[neat agate]

A.K.A Arris TG2492LG

[waxen scroll]

@peak cloak is it?

mine

[peak cloak]

that's 64gb

he meant that it's really small as in storage size

[waxen scroll]

o

yeah. sometimes i have to partition an 8gb or something on this cause network devices dont like it

stupid cisco

[neat agate]

he meant that it's really small as in storage size
@peak cloak indeed

[little schooner]

@waxen scroll very tiny usbs

[thick minnow]

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-wales-54239180

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll https://blob.rocks/cuFwHuajhy.png

They want RJ45 on this..... https://blob.rocks/7xcyNqyGka.png

[waxen scroll]

heh. yeah. ive done it too

but if they want all ports RJ-45 then LOL

wait what... they have an L3 agg switch now?

🤔 🍆

[rocky badge]

"layer 3 lite" or layer 3

https://blob.rocks/Ikm9WjcIIB.png

https://blob.rocks/YMdVjYsMVx.png

[waxen scroll]

LMAO

[rocky badge]

eNtErPrIsE

[hollow marlin]

ADVANCE FEATURES

[hollow marlin]

Is this a business plan? I have not heard that fios offers 2gig

@waxen scroll

[waxen scroll]

im surprised theres no VRF support since linux supports it natively

[hollow marlin]

If DHCP and static routes are advanced, wonder what Unfi considers BGP and MPLS

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll https://blob.rocks/Ol5Prsc3qB.png

https://blob.rocks/FpB1fC0XgN.png

UbIqUiTi ShOuLd MaKe PrOdUcTs FoR mY nEeDs

[hollow marlin]

He knows what SFPs are right?

[tame carbon]

10GbE on copper is nice on paper

until you realize how expensive the NICs are

nevermind the 25 meter limit and interference issues

[hollow marlin]

Due to power and heat. Its why over 10G for copper is not going to be a thing for sometime.

[rocky badge]

BuT mY mAcS wItH rJ45 10gIg

[tame carbon]

one day

we get plastic optical fibers

short distance, 10gbit

consumer oriented.

[waxen scroll]

so TOSLINK ?

@rocky badge i use toslink on my computer

[rocky badge]

[waxen scroll]

👌 🧐

[sour cypress]

sometimes I look at this channel and pretend I know what I’m looking at to feel smart

[waxen scroll]

blob has that effect

[sour cypress]

networking is the only thing I do not have a decent grasp on

[waxen scroll]

what do you have a decent grasp on

[primal ice]

<-#nothing

[sour cypress]

^

i know how a computer works and how to build them

but the concept i am talking to someone via radio frequency through a box

across the world

amazes me

[peak cloak]

I know about networking within a LAN, but routing outside of the LAN is sort-of alien to me

[rocky badge]

basically me ^

lol

[sour cypress]

I know

Data goes from
A —— B

[waxen scroll]

i stopped using B, i use Z now

[peak cloak]

Speaking of which, I'm trying to figure out why when tracerouting to google.com it is going though a private ip address 10.240.164.201 even though I am not using the 10.x.x.x subnet

[hollow marlin]

A-Z is the only way

[rocky badge]

@peak cloak Where is it in the traceroute

And is this on AT&T

[peak cloak]

No, Optimum

[waxen scroll]

i hear CTL had private IPs sometimes too

[peak cloak]

I know ATT does CGNAT

[rocky badge]

https://blob.rocks/qRKjUVh0fD.png

[sour cypress]

question

[rocky badge]

Because my friend on AT&T has a similar hop

[hollow marlin]

Response in TR private IP from a provider is normal

[sour cypress]

how does Ethernet work

[rocky badge]

so probably your ISP?

[peak cloak]

yeah

[rocky badge]

https://blob.rocks/UyjQqy3xFs.png

[peak cloak]

would it cause problems if I would use a 10.x.x.x subnet at home?

[rocky badge]

it shouldn't afaik lol

[hollow marlin]

Responses are generated with a source of the egress interface. You can configure it to respond with the loopback

[rocky badge]

only one hop in Level 3

[hollow marlin]

Nope

[waxen scroll]

you mean lumen

[hollow marlin]

MPLS

[rocky badge]

🤔

[hollow marlin]

It might appear to be 1 hop but with MPLS you are not decrementing the TTL until its egress the tunnel. Unless you configure it to decrement

[rocky badge]

ah

[waxen scroll]

yeppppp @rocky badge my site in china has lots of hops but the trace is 2

[rocky badge]

lol

[hollow marlin]

If you didn't have Unifi you could use MPLS to get a traceroute with MPLS labels with some sneaky configuration

[waxen scroll]

i only use MPLS as a CE, last job i used it proper but new job doesnt

[rocky badge]

@hollow marlin UniFi router? I'm not using that as my main router lol

or any UniFi lol

[hollow marlin]

We do not have MPLS at the CE. PE/P are all MPLS.

MPLS for life

[waxen scroll]

yes, i meant i only peer with an MPLS router. i dont think about MPLS anymore

[rocky badge]

my friend has 12ms ping to a MC sever I'm hosting at home

[hollow marlin]

But how are sysadmins going to put MPLS on their resume?

[waxen scroll]

do they?

[hollow marlin]

Way too much

Even when they do not run MPLS, they manage a router on an MPLS circuit/L3VPN and still put it on their resume

[waxen scroll]

well

i dont disagree with that BUT

it needs to be more than just "i plugged a router in"

[hollow marlin]

Woah, thats asking a lot

[waxen scroll]

MPLS is only getting you from A to Z, theres a lot of engineering that can go into the design and MPLS is just a small part of it

[hollow marlin]

Im just referring to sysadmins and the resumes I have seen

[waxen scroll]

if you dont use the word MPLS on the resume its not as easy to identify what you did for people who arent admins

they know they need to look for MPLS

lol

also supposedly hiring for networking is hard 💁

last company told me "yeah those basic questions you answered on the verbal test.... most people fail"

oooooooooook

everybody lying i guess

when i graduated i was also encouraged to lie and refused

"you took an active directory class right? So why isnt it on your resume?"

really?

one class. barely touched it

[peak cloak]

I've been thinking if I should go into IT/networking as a career vs. mechanical engineering

[waxen scroll]

lol mechanical eng was one thing i thought about too but i didnt wanna deal with all the math involved and its a very competitive field

[peak cloak]

Like I like "engineering" at home as in building things, but as in working at a company, idk

[waxen scroll]

thats how i feel about dev

its easy when its your project that you have a passion for... but an employer?

[signal mantle]

I'm 63 and worked in IT/IS for multiple major global companies. I went from an engineer to a Director and CIO. I have a passion for technology, so I really never worked a day in my adult life doing something I loved. IT/IS is a sh*T job in major companies, ONLY when you get laid off. That happens a lot as the companies in source and outsource every 5-10 years. If your ready for change, awesome, if your not, find what your passoinate about and do that.

[waxen scroll]

haha

i switched to major companies years ago and i love it. screw smaller places 😄

but yeah i have been laid off before, thats the downside

[signal mantle]

hahaha, yep, gotta love what your doing, when that happens and be willing to do other stuff in IT/IS as well.

6000 jobs at Kraftfoods moved out to EDS(HP) 3000 jobs moved from Johnson Controls to Infosys. I can do on. I also love large companies, but I also like learning, so I built an IT/IS organization which was bought out by Trenity Industries. STuff happens but it was great while they lasted.

[waxen scroll]

i got hit by Capgemeni at one company and TATA at another

they always say "its operational" and then all the engineers get hit

[signal mantle]

I fired Infosys, pissed of a VP, and later another VP hired Infosys and F^%ed everybody.

I did with 10 people, what Infosys had 100's doing, and did it for 5% of the cost, and 1000 times more work produced.

[waxen scroll]

oof

i had 300k of equipment ordered and on the dock for datacenter network equipment that was end of support and they kicked me out, no turnover

better than training my replacement!

😄

[signal mantle]

nice...

I took all the signing keys away from the developers, for ANdroid, iOS, and Windows, and was out sourced. I offered to hand the keys over and they said never mind. LOL I did give them to my team, anyway, because without them, every application was going to fail, costing over $100 Million. No IT/IS idiots....

[waxen scroll]

🤣

[signal mantle]

After what they did to IT/IS, I should have kept them and charged them for signing...

[waxen scroll]

now the new trend is "we refuse to hire non-senior". Automate away the non-engineer contractors. Reduce novice labor.

current company is doing it

[signal mantle]

I'm 63 and get told, I'm to old, and experienced. cuts both ways.

[waxen scroll]

i dont know how american IT novices are going to get real experience now... between outsourcing and senior only... all they can do is work at smaller companies

then [Surprised Pikachu] "Why cant we find anyone senior to hire???"

[keen haven]

reminds me of that job listing that wanted like 5 years experience with certain software, when it was released 2 years earlier

[signal mantle]

Yep. Amazon director, told me he didn't think I could manage in the data center walking around for 2 hour shift. He was 400lbs, and I just finished 168 out of 690+ people on a 35 mile ultra marathon. I later learned he was afraid I would take his job.

BTW, I use Arch Linux, nothing is over 10 days old....lol

[hollow marlin]

Working a smaller companies in networking would be preferred because you get "more experience" or at least a wider range of responsibilities. Large companies tend to silo and I have seen people burned for being so narrow focused that the moment they need to step outside their day to day they collapse

As far as larger companies hiring only seniors will bite them in a few years

[waxen scroll]

i started my 100% networking career in a big pharmas operations.... you dont silo there and have chances to touch *

i imagine other NOCs are the same

[hollow marlin]

Most providers we work with a 100% silo'd. Not saying it applies to all but have seen many with very limited flexibility

[signal mantle]

@hollow marlin You can be correct. I was lucky in that we rotated our people to different teams, to keep them sharp. I managed developers, but still installed servers, and applications, as well as networking, in a 50 Billion dollar company. I also did a lot of things in Phillip Morris, when they were 500 billion. I was the go to guy for technology and worked with the CTO, which helped.

[waxen scroll]

@hollow marlin i wanna do nothing but layer 2. can you hire me?

xD

[signal mantle]

@waxen scroll @hollow marlin I just want to work. I'll pull cables to manage global teams. I really just want to work. I'm easy....

[waxen scroll]

@signal mantle Securitas datacenter security

get paid for checking people in and reading reddit

[signal mantle]

lol, maybe a little more technical. If you stop moving you die.

Headed to the gym... You guys are great... Have a good day...

[clear igloo]

Just remember, hire someone to take the interview for you and cover your mouth so they can't tell while you're on video. That's big brain moves 😄

[waxen scroll]

@rocky badge ill do one for you

[rocky badge]

Lol

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll https://blob.rocks/9j1zqMUItA.png

can I upload to Google Drive faster pls https://blob.rocks/20dxnv0s4P.png

[mellow heart]

Any FreeNAS & NextCloud people around and able to help?

I setup NextCloud with SSL from this guide - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvmxl30pC6Y

The SSL isn't working, and I can't access the service outside my network 😦

[peak cloak]

@mellow heart that looks like a tutorial for self-signed SSL certs. You need to install the public key on your computer that you want to use to access it. If you want HTTPS from anywhere you need to get a free SSL cert from letsencrypt

Do you have a domain?

[mellow heart]

I don't have a domain

😦

I can't access nextcloud outside my network

[peak cloak]

yeah, that's expected unless you port forward

Do you know netoworking basics?

like what NAT is?

[mellow heart]

I know how to port forward

I'm a web developer so I know some things

but not stuff I wouldn't deal with when making a website

[peak cloak]

so you port forwarded? (I personally wouldn't recommend this for security reasons without some sort of authentication though a reverse proxy or a VPN)

[mellow heart]

Sorry for my lack of knowledge

so you port forwarded? (I personally wouldn't recommend this for security reasons without some sort of authentication though a reverse proxy or a VPN)
@peak cloak I don't know what this means lol

I just want to make a DropBox like system for my family

I'm using an old machine I had laying around

[peak cloak]

when you port forward you are forwarding requests to nextcloud directly. Then the nextcloud machine does the authentication (password to access nextcloud). A reverse proxy w/ some sort of authentication middleware can be an additional layer of security

[mellow heart]

Is it something I need to worry about for something simple like this that's just meant for family use?

[peak cloak]

It can fine for a bit, but I wouldn't keep it as a permanent solution

If there is nothing sensitive, it should be fine

[mellow heart]

Nah, just videos, pictures etc

[peak cloak]

plus I would isolate the nextcloud machine from your LAN

[mellow heart]

Okay, clearly I don't know enough about networking to do this

What are my options?

The goal here is this

[peak cloak]

I may be overcomplicating things, but I guess I'm just a bit strict about security. You don't need to these things but I like to.

[mellow heart]

To have a NAS so I can offload recorded videos to save space on my gaming machine. To allow access to family so they have personal dropboxe - and most importantnly, setup Plex so you can watch videos in a specific folder if someone wants to share recorded gameplay that is too big for Discord

I had this all working before, but I switched to a larger HDD and now setting it all up again it doesn't work

Is there someone I can pay or get help from to walk through this?

[peak cloak]

You can get it setup, but it wouldn't be THAT secure.

So you have the machine port forwarded, is that correct?

[tame carbon]

@mellow heart just put freenas on it

[mellow heart]

It has FreeNAS

[tame carbon]

then use the plugin directory to install nextcloud

[mellow heart]

That's what I did

[tame carbon]

its easiest

if you get that to work

[mellow heart]

I had port forwarding working before switching HDD @peak cloak

[tame carbon]

you can then consider, maybe if you want to get more savvy

because done properly, you'd go with some linux distro, and then install the software manually

because you dont need freenas to do what you are trying

[peak cloak]

@mellow heart sounds like the dhcp lease expired

what's the machine's ip

[mellow heart]

Let me check

[tame carbon]

If you want to not care about dhcp

[peak cloak]

^ just setup a static ip

[tame carbon]

give the machine a static IP, and then make sure the router's DHCP pool is not in that range

most dhcp servers on home routers, you can set the range of IPs it gives you

[peak cloak]

or some routers can map a static ip

[tame carbon]

yeah

you can also do static leases

where the dhcp server just remembers the MAC address of the device

@peak cloak ever seen ipfs?

https://ipfs.io/

[mellow heart]

This is what I have

https://i.imgur.com/mH3TeJm.png

[tame carbon]

you blurred out all the useful parts

xD

[mellow heart]

Oh, I thought that was sensitive info lol

Sorry

[tame carbon]

just your public IP

and your phone # if you have one

[mellow heart]

https://i.imgur.com/ZcQ25S5.png

Like that?

Damn, I'm at a total loss

[tame carbon]

this is a cancerous router

[mellow heart]

I think I'm just too stupid for this 😦

[tame carbon]

no

ISP routers

are always garbage

[mellow heart]

Well yeah

I don't have a choice

I can't afford a new one

[tame carbon]

see if you can find DHCP somewhere

[mellow heart]

The server is directly connected via wire

[tame carbon]

its probably in "advanced"

[peak cloak]

I've helped someone on a Verizon router

[tame carbon]

Good

then I can go take a leak

brb

[peak cloak]

It's under advanced - port forwarding

[mellow heart]

Wait, what am I trying to do here?

[rocky badge]

@hallow nimbus did you see 👀

[mellow heart]

How can I tell what port Next is on?

[tame carbon]

its probably on 80

[hallow nimbus]

I was pinged 👀

[rocky badge]

I finally got off of shitty cable a couple of weeks ago lol @hallow nimbus

[hallow nimbus]

HEUJ

And now 👀

[peak cloak]

Port 80 is the standard http port

[hallow nimbus]

How many gigibyes 👀

[rocky badge]

this is on WiFi 😂

[tame carbon]

@mellow heart webservers run on port 80, HTTP. For HTTPS people use port 443

[hallow nimbus]

Thats atleast work it

So that = 600Mbit

Nice

[rocky badge]

gigabit 👀

[hallow nimbus]

You got gigabit 👀

[tame carbon]

boo

wifi

[hallow nimbus]

Jealus

[tame carbon]

only 600mbit?

[hallow nimbus]

And yes Crystal correct

😂

[tame carbon]

[mellow heart]

I'm going to try reinstalling the plugin

[rocky badge]

Still good for WiFi when the AP is only 3x3

[tame carbon]

@mellow heart wait

[mellow heart]

I don't know what's going on 😦

[rocky badge]

And it's not even in the same room

[mellow heart]

chat is moving too fast

[tame carbon]

@mellow heart do you know the current ip of your server?

[mellow heart]

yes

[tame carbon]

just put that in your webbrowser locally

http://192.168.0.0/

0.0 whatever it says in your router

[mellow heart]

yeah

That works

[tame carbon]

then you dont need to reinstall nextcloud

[mellow heart]

I can see the NextCloud client

[hallow nimbus]

Datacap @rocky badge ?

[mellow heart]

How do I make it accessable outside my network?

[rocky badge]

nope @hallow nimbus

[mellow heart]

That's the main goal

[tame carbon]

@mellow heart so your public IP, is pointing to the router

@mellow heart currently, the router doesnt know what to do with data on port 80, so it just ignores it

[hallow nimbus]

Thats how i like to see it @rocky badge

[tame carbon]

by port forwarding, you tell the router to forward traffic on port 80, to port 80 on a local IP

that local IP, is the one of your server

[rocky badge]

@hallow nimbus And it's cheap 😄

[hallow nimbus]

Imagine having a datacap

[rocky badge]

And I get multiple WAN IPs

[hallow nimbus]

And fiber being cheap

WAIT WHAT

I cant get multiple wan ips 😂

[rocky badge]

I haven't ran into a port that's blocked yet

[hallow nimbus]

LOL

I can just open every port i want

😂

[tame carbon]

I can too

but then ISP called me up

[mellow heart]

https://i.imgur.com/01VuQD6.png

[rocky badge]

22, 80, 443, 25565, 19999, 8443, 8080

[tame carbon]

HEY: get rid of that DNS server

[mellow heart]

Like this?

[rocky badge]

That's all I've tested so far

[hallow nimbus]

Lmao @tame carbon 😂

[tame carbon]

@mellow heart yeah.

[rocky badge]

because most of my stuff goes through a proxy

@hallow nimbus I have 3 IPs right now

[tame carbon]

@hallow nimbus firewall rule for the local FW, was also applying to my routed subnet

@hallow nimbus so the dns server on my /29

yeah..

[hallow nimbus]

@hallow nimbus I have 3 IPs right now
@rocky badge Why even 😂

[tame carbon]

isp not happy

xD

[hallow nimbus]

You ware prob causing problems in thier systems

😂

[tame carbon]

I have 9, total, 1 WAN and a /29

[hallow nimbus]

OOF

[rocky badge]

@hallow nimbus why not

[hallow nimbus]

Tru

[mellow heart]

Doesn't work 😦

[hallow nimbus]

How is the upload tho 👀

@rocky badge

[tame carbon]

@hallow nimbus only costs me additional 16 euros/month for that /29

[mellow heart]

Last time it had a port like 8282 or something

[rocky badge]

500Mbps on residential not bad

[tame carbon]

plan is 250/250

[rocky badge]

a better upload than Spectrum 10Mbps

[hallow nimbus]

@hallow nimbus only costs me additional 16 euros/month for that /29
@tame carbon Not bad

plan is 250/250
@tame carbon I have 250 down 25 up feking ziggo

I want more up

😂

And more down

😂

500Mbps on residential not bad
@rocky badge Not bad at all

[tame carbon]

@mellow heart you can put the port for the public IP on a different one, but then you also have to put that in your browser

[rocky badge]

abusing that unlimited Google Drive @hallow nimbus https://blob.rocks/q8r0jgKDRY.png

[hallow nimbus]

[mellow heart]

@mellow heart you can put the port for the public IP on a different one, but then you also have to put that in your browser
@tame carbon That's what I did before