networking

[waxen scroll]

For a big example: all of your taps feed these and you'll have multiple in most cases: https://www.gigamon.com/products/access-traffic/traffic-aggregators/gigavue-ta-series.html

Next you'll feed the devices from that link into one or more of these: https://www.gigamon.com/products/access-traffic/physical-nodes/gigavue-hc3.html

Next you'll feed those devices from above into a storage server

[hexed kettle]

anbody know how to configure the dns for a certain application only nd not the whole system?

[waxen scroll]

its not possible afaik unless you use containers

[distant wedge]

is this where we meet new people? I am looking to network

[waxen scroll]

@vapid dune uses containers all the time! tell us about DNS

[vapid dune]

an application only? I don't think that's usually done. but yeah containers would be easier

https://firejail.wordpress.com/

apparently that does it on linux?

[rocky badge]

iOS is allowing apps to override DNS now 😒

[vapid dune]

that sucks

I mean I was gonna say apps are gonna integrate DoH into their mix at some point in the future to get around the adblocking DNS

[rocky badge]

Yup

Apps can use their own DoH if the system isn't using DoH yet

[vapid dune]

crappy lol

[rocky badge]

https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2020/10047/

[vapid dune]

that's so junky

I don't get why they would do that. what about enterprise customers?

or you know, people who want control lol

[rocky badge]

"Use a MDM"

[waxen scroll]

@rocky badge my personal phone uses an mdm

[rocky badge]

Same lol

[waxen scroll]

work put it there

you're just crazy

lol

[rocky badge]

Lol

[waxen scroll]

android has a work profile

i didnt know it did that before this

all the corporate stuff where they log are isolated to the work profile and my personal stuff doesnt mix

and i dont need two phones anymore

[rocky badge]

Yeah

[little schooner]

I have Knox on my Samsung phone and yeah it works exactly like that

That was the day I was trying to understand why a VPN connection outside of it did not work inside the Work Profile space

It is because they are isolated

And the whole time I thought it was a OpenVPN config issue

[waxen scroll]

My work profile VPN isn't working either

I know the cause but not the why

[versed nebula]

is it possible to do a diy nas ?

[spare bay]

1000%

[versed nebula]

is it complicated?

[little schooner]

@versed nebula no. Use some hardware and throw something like freenas onto it

Or you can throw Linux on it and serve samba or nfs and call it a nas

[vapid dune]

I use the android for work on my phone too

[versed nebula]

I need to buy the hardware.

[spare bay]

unraid is really nice too but you gotta pay for it

worth the money imo

[icy frigate]

is it possible to do a diy nas ?
@versed nebula I run an old PC with OpemMediaVault (a flavour of Debian). Super easy.

[versed nebula]

nice

its funny with my usb3 external hard drive. the speed always goes to one extreme to the other

from 300mb/s to 0kbit/s

any reason? I set it to "better performance" in device manager

[icy frigate]

from 300mb/s to 0kbit/s
@versed nebula depends. Could be the USB controller, could be level of fragmentation on the HDD, could be HDD cache maxing out, could be overhead while processing a lot of small files, the drive getting hot, the controller on the drive getting hot, etc

[clear igloo]

Also depends on what you're transferring, small files will cause huge drops too

[versed nebula]

I'm transfering flac files

my drive is in exFAT too ...is this a problem?

[vapid dune]

o.O

could just be the type of drive too

what kind of external is it?

[waxen scroll]

WinAMP... ((winamppppp))... It really whips the llama

[vapid dune]

is that now offensive?

[versed nebula]

does winamp support flac?

[waxen scroll]

@vapid dune the bots here were configured by far leftists

tons of stuff is flagged

cant take chances

[little schooner]

@waxen scroll I get a little of both sides and see each of their exaggerations

[icy frigate]

Yeah, I’m sure us lefties have a big problem with the word ass

Also WinAMP 2.95 is the last time it was any good 😉

[versed nebula]

it works with the flac here

I love winamp

soo many memories

[distant wedge]

Winamp really whips the llamas ass

[subtle cosmos]

Hey y’all I’ve been having some problems with my internet and I came here to see if anyone knows any solutions. So basically, my parents “upgraded” the internet; our provider offered a better plan that consisted of 1000 mb speed instead of our 50 mb speed. However ever since they made that change, whenever my parents would watch a movie or anything like that, the connection on my computer went to shit real fast. And other than that, overall the internet is just inconsistent now. Any solutions?

[icy frigate]

Sounds like maybe the included router is garbage

[vestal tendon]

Hi all, wondering if someone can help me with a networking issue that I'm having. I'll explain...

I have 1Gbps FIOS coming to ONT at my house. ONT then to ARRIS router (let's call that RT1)...from there CAT5E to attic where it plugs into 8 port gigabit hub

hub then distributes to several rooms in the house

1 room it plugs into another ARRIS Router (RT2) which supplies internet and wifi to a device or two

another room it connects to a G1100 Router (RT3) and another room connects to another ARRIS (RT4)

RT2-4 are set to DHCP OFF

and all devices get their internal IP from RT1

what is happening is that when I connect RT4 to the network, I get massive system wide disconnects

so I'm wondering if a network can only handle so many daisy chained RT's?

also wondering WiFi overlaps could also be causing issues possibly

[vapid dune]

there shouldn't be disconnects like that. but why so many routers ugh

at the very least get some switches in place of those routers because they're not doing you any favors in terms of stability

[distant wedge]

I would highly recommend getting unmanaged switches in place of those routers you have. I feel as though you need to dig further into the configuration of each router and make sure there is no possible way for it to be assigned DHCP, and it sounds like RT4 is just creating a broadcast storm somehow. Something on your network does not play well with the RT4, and I'm starting to believe RT1 and RT4 may not be playing well with each other.

[kind sky]

Anyone got ideas on how to get more ehternet throughout my house? Harder and longer spots wish I had more but looking nice too

[little schooner]

I'm stuck. I'm trying to set up a OpenVPN server at one site and have a router at another site peer with it.

My goal is to get traffic from a specific wifi device at site 1 to go to the internet through the OpenVPN server at site 2. As it stands now, both routers are connected and are peering. However, visiting any URL on the wifi device in Chrome shows a Rebinding error or the Not Secure red lock error. I think it might be intercepting https when it should only be forwarding it.

Is what I want to accomplish possible without having the wifi device at site 1 use its own VPN connection?

[vapid dune]

@kind sky what's harder about it?

[kind sky]

I mean my ehternet downstairs get x10 the speeds firstly thens secondly dont know how to run cables through the wall at super long distances 😦

[vapid dune]

x10 the speeds? o.O

my ethernet downstairs is just as fast as upstairs. but my place isn't huge

I mean you can look on youtube for advice how to pull cables in walls. but if you don't feel comfortable I'm sure there's people you can hire to do it

it's not a big job imo

will need some wall patches though

[distant wedge]

Running ethernet thru the walls is technically very easy, it would be easier if the house was being renovated but yeah, you just have to patch

I went a little overkill and instead have a 2 inch PVC pipe going from the second floor, straight into the basement

All my runs from the second floor including coax / ethernet all fly into it

[vapid dune]

I mean running conduit means pulling lines in the future is easier if you ever need to

but you could just double/triple up on lines when doing the initial pull to help combat that heh

or run fiber everywhere

[distant wedge]

I mean running fiber in a 1500sqft house probably isn’t the best idea 😅

[vapid dune]

lol

not the best. but it's fiber!

[distant wedge]

Indeed it issss

I have 4 Ethernet and 2 coax running to each room, then have them lightly velcroed before they go down, that way if I need to re pull, it shouldn’t be hard at all

Just waiting for one of these to come in the mail

[little schooner]

I figured it out.... It was all because the NAT rule at site 1 applied in disabled state and the router at site 2 didn't have static route to find the OpenVPN server for 172.16.3.0/24 net....

[manic nebula]

@distant wedge that's why we use installation tubes usually in germany

[distant wedge]

Installation tubes?

[manic nebula]

PVC tubes

sry

[distant wedge]

Lol, we use either PVC or EMT. It depends on what we want to do but usually PVC is cheaper and easier to work with

[manic nebula]

agree, EMT is just terrible and sturdy as heck

[distant wedge]

Well, in some buildings, we have to use EMT for building code. We have pipe benders and such but it's a lot of work

But that's usually only if we have exposed walls

[manic nebula]

luckily such a practice isn't common anymore in germany

[distant wedge]

That's good

It took me a little while to do the PVC in my house, but a lot of people I know have been asking me to do the same for them

It's become sort of a small business for me :p

[clear igloo]

Nice!

[manic nebula]

however. I have a question regarding my Asus DSL-AC87VG

I have a shitty ISP that doesn't wanna give me all perimeters required to set it up properly for vDSL.

Is there any way i can spoof the necessary perimeters for it?

Yeah, i know you guys wouldn't recommend vDSL at all, it was a bad choice back then, i gotta admit

going back to my former ISP in October anyways

because 1000k coax

[kind sky]

I have a cat 5e going upstairs to a room and another cat 5e right next to router. The one upstairs is not that long but its decent. Issue is one upstairs gets x5 lower speed than one down. Why is this cable bad or something else?

[manic nebula]

anything below 100 meters should actually have the same result. Check your LAN connection and Router settings. Maybe some settings are off or the cable got damaged somewhere. Intel Lan connections provide a pretty decent feature to troubleshoot where the cable might be broken

[vapid dune]

use a cable tester...

[kind sky]

yea well main thing is I switched internet providers

and the cable in the wall is like 7 years old now and was installed by old provider

plus Im paying for 1000 megabytes but im only getting 90 with cat 5e

so im assuming thats fine as cat 5e is rated for that I thought I need a new cat 7 cable I think

but downstairs i get 500 with cat 5e so makes no sense

[little schooner]

Cat 5e is rated for 1000mbps

That is not fine at 90mbps

[kind sky]

ah idk I thought it was 100 only yea idk then not good

[little schooner]

Check your cable ends they may have wires that came out

[kind sky]

so at 100 meters result is same then?

im 100% under 100 meters

[little schooner]

100m is the limit

But that's really really far

[kind sky]

when do slow downs begin typically?

[little schooner]

At 100m

If the cable is designed to spec, it should support full length

[kind sky]

yea then something else is wrong

its the cable itself gonna replace it then iv checked and tried everything else

[distant wedge]

Actually

328m is the max amount before you need some sort of amplification

Wait no 328 ft

[little schooner]

Yes, that's about 100m

[kind sky]

also if you buy one of these plates it will work with cat 7 correct? https://www.amazon.com/Sancable-Ethernet-Plate-Keystone-Female/dp/B07LH1QD4B/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=cat+7+converter+plate&qid=1594572221&sr=8-3

i mean cat 7 and 6 are the same in terms of connections right?

[clear igloo]

Well considering Cat7 is not an industry approved standard and can use a few different proprietary connections which might or might not be compatible with RJ45 I wouldn't bother with it

https://www.cablematters.com/blog/Networking/what-is-cat7-and-why-you-don-t-need-it

[kind sky]

so what should I do for a wall connection then?

[vapid dune]

I mean the plate is a plate. I just swap out the keystone if need be

oh right I took a picture of the one I swapped out that was evil

I don't know who did that. but they managed to short two of them

I swapped it to one of the ones that look like this: https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/b1a20fc1-dcf0-45e9-b3da-5209a8e2f6fa_1.24e5242398c79a2a56ae6d443dbee77c.jpeg?odnHeight=2000&odnWidth=2000&odnBg=ffffff

[kind sky]

why are some blue and white just a color thing?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072J2RS43/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

was gonn ado this rather

[manic nebula]

i hate that misconception

Cat. 7 doesn't exist

[waxen scroll]

@little schooner i'm struggling to understand the usecase for that

if the whole site is VPN to the other site already whats the problem

[manic nebula]

Cat. 6A and Cat. 8 exist, but Cat. 7 doesn't work on RJ-45 due to interference, so it needs jacks with bigger gaps between each contact. That's why the industry scrapped the whole Cat. 7 spec

anything else to say?

[clear igloo]

Was just about to say that pretty much 😛

It's an ISO standard only basically but doesn't meet TIA/EIA specifications nor have its approval

[manic nebula]

Here are the approved standards

And till the consumer market really needs Cat. 8 it will take like 10 years till it becomes a bare minimum standard

[vapid dune]

lol yeah I hope 10gig is a standard consumer thing by then

and ipv6

but that might be a pipe dream

[manic nebula]

keep dreaming

[clear igloo]

lol, yah, one can dream 🙂

[manic nebula]

unless that monopoly game of ISPs gets crushed somehow i don't see any improvements in the next 25 years for the US

[vapid dune]

thankfully I'm in Canada 😄 but yeah realistically nothing will change

[clear igloo]

So 50 years for you then

[manic nebula]

thankfully i live in germany with a synchronized 1 Gb/s connection, so idc, but stagnation in the US also means stagnation worldwide

[clear igloo]

Yah, I got lucky, Google was like "We're coming to Raleigh" so AT&T rushed and got their fiber down early so I've got gigabit 😄

[vapid dune]

o.o I was gonna say hopefully less time

gigabit fiber with ipv6 native can be found here. I wish they'd deploy more of it though

[clear igloo]

I won't go on my AT&T rant for IPv6 again but they have it, they just deployed it in the most stupid manner possible

[vapid dune]

lol how can it be stupid? does it work?

[clear igloo]

So for fiber at least you get a /64 and have to request, via some other device, additional /64s as you need them. They allocate a /60 per user but you can only get it in a /64 at a time -.-

They ignore any PD request for anything over a /64 so I've burned like 4 interfaces on my firewall so each one can request a separate /64

[vapid dune]

I forget what I get. Maybe a 56?

[clear igloo]

Yah, the other ISP I've got lets me send a PD for /56, /60, or /64 which is fine but they are slow and I only have them for TV, lol

[vapid dune]

At least it's not a 128

[clear igloo]

Fair enough, if only android followed DHCPv6 and not SLAAC then I wouldn't have a problem with even a single /64

[vapid dune]

Yeah it's a bit crazy there's two ways. That's what I hope gets fixed in 10 years lol

27% vs 43% IPv6 use Canada vs US from what I just searched

Interesting

[clear igloo]

that is interesting

[manic nebula]

still wonder if my Asus DSL-AC87VG can somehow sniff the necessary perimeters i need in order to use it as my main modem and router

because my current main ISP is total garbage

[vapid dune]

Search online? Someone must have tried

[manic nebula]

So i got forced to use my second ISP, which is connected to my server for internet service only at home while my main ISP connection is for IP TV only

Search online? Someone must have tried
@vapid dune already did, but germans somehow aren't good with networking

[vapid dune]

huh

[manic nebula]

guess that's the result of a nation forced to bring out elite engineers and craftsmen instead of electrician engineers

[vapid dune]

I mean can you just bridge or pass through an IP?

[manic nebula]

wrong channel, but my fangs are healthy and shiny

see?

I mean can you just bridge or pass through an IP?
@vapid dune yes and no xD I can, but that stupid Fritz!Box denies any sniffing at the perimeters

as soon as i try to spoof anything it denies any service

stupid ass bıtch ISP router

but my attorney is already on that case, since i'm allowed by european court to use any router i want as long as it supports the connection

which it obviously does

wish my ISP the best of luck to get away with such shady methods in front of a court

[vapid dune]

o.O

[waxen scroll]

dat new sword art online tho

[vapid dune]

haha

iz good. thankfully this season is looking better

[verbal charm]

SAO has always been good. New episode is dope. Playing Lycoris, it follows Alicization closely.

[manic nebula]

owwww, dat asuna emote

@verbal charm where did you get those emotes from?

I was probably the one with most Asunas someone could achieve in SAO:MD. I mean i had every single Asuna since release

[verbal charm]

I have them in my own discord

[little schooner]

@waxen scroll for streaming. But it's proving harder to implement than I thought

Mainly because site 2 doesn't have enough bandwidth to stream the video back via upload

So it's a lost cause

[little schooner]

@waxen scroll now if only I realized that sooner

[waxen scroll]

@little schooner im messing with this

so kill me

lol

[little schooner]

Looks fun xD

Hey half the battle was making sure its all labeled correctly

[waxen scroll]

i didnt label anything, the software did for me

[little schooner]

Oh

Packet tracer doesn't do that

I wish it did that and auto spaced

It only has those hover labels

[waxen scroll]

juan got me to install eve-ng so im messing with it

[little schooner]

Looks cool yeah

[waxen scroll]

running into some flaws, but i dont know if thats eves problem or what

like i see all the mac addresses in the arp table, but the layer 2 table only has the macs for the dist switches

so you have to wonder if all the traffic is just being flooded all over the place

like pings and such

[little schooner]

Yeah. Well I suppose each software has its own fair share of quirks

Packet tracer was lying to us when we made a template setup for an access server install

I knew we shouldn't of trusted it in our particular case

[hollow marlin]

@little schooner never use PT for live simulation. It's a great study tool but lacks many protocols that also come into play in the real world.
As far as emulation, layer 2 is the hardest to emulate because so much L2 is in hardware and many virtual switches are needed to emulate even a single switch.
L3 is easy peasy to emulate

[long grove]

hey guys, any one willing to help me set up my router for better ping?

[ornate jungle]

Erm, step 1) disable QoS step 2) use cloudflare or google DNS step 3) move into an Internet Exchange Data center?

[vapid dune]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nanopi-neo3-a-pocket-sized-server

lol move into a what now

[thorny vector]

If only I could live that close to a node 😭

[vapid dune]

I mean with fiber you're practically there

[thorny vector]

What’s that? Oh, the thing none of the places I’ve lived at in the past 5 years has had

[vapid dune]

Better find a place with it next

[thorny vector]

Military, I don’t get to choose where I live

[loud anchor]

is port forwarding good for gaming

[lean pollen]

If all current applications for future datacentres in Norway happen, and they use as much electricity as they say they will, they will use 20% of the electricity in Norway.

[thorny vector]

@loud anchor Not for gaming per se, but you need it if you're hosting your own server for something

[lean pollen]

ISP upgraded our internet to 500/20 (from 300/20)
I would personally rather have more upload
300 was really already more than enough
But that 20 up is what I want to be better

[waxen saddle]

@loud anchor Is leaving your front door wide open good for walking?

Port forwarding is only useful if you are hosting something. If you are playing a game that requires it, consider why it requires it. If it requires a huge range of ports to be open, run away. The authors are completely incompetent and your computer will likely be hacked soon.

[thorny vector]

The house I'm leasing includes electric in the lease, so what's a homelabber to do? That's right, all spare resources are cryptomining now 😄

[little schooner]

@hollow marlin noted

[waxen scroll]

#devops #jira #ohgod

[vapid dune]

what's wrong with jira anyhow

[cedar igloo]

nothing beats a good old white board & sticky notes

[waxen scroll]

Micromanaging

[clear igloo]

#agile #devops #thenetwork #intuitive

@little schooner Seems about right
https://www.theregister.com/2020/07/13/ibm_kubernetes_experience_job_ad/

[waxen scroll]

@clear igloo dont h8

[rocky badge]

@chrome hound https://twitter.com/SnazzyQ/status/1283121441689354240
Did Quinn get UTOPIA 10 Gigabit? 👀

Quinn Nelson (@SnazzyQ)

https://t.co/B9w8Zix2mn

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[chrome hound]

I only saw an order for 1 gig, but he has a Juniper so he could get 10

[rocky badge]

Yeah, he showed he got gigabit....maybe he upgraded? 👀

[chrome hound]

possible or our eng gave him a temp allowance for 10g

[rocky badge]

Also I wonder if his router, UDMP, can actually handle 10Gbps, Ubiquiti only rates the UDMP for 9.5Gbps with NAT & FW and 3.5Gbps with IPS/IDS, so he has that off, and I've never seen anyone with 10Gbps + UDMP lmao

Ooh 👀

[chrome hound]

well thats Sumo Fibers Speed test server too so its not going to get to 10g, the best I get out of that one is 4

[rocky badge]

😂

[chrome hound]

he should connect to the Utopia sped net server its got a 40G card and directly connected to the core switch that has our 100g line cards

[rocky badge]

😂

lmao

https://twitter.com/SnazzyQ/status/1283130693468356609/photo/1

Quinn Nelson (@SnazzyQ)

Okay, that’s a lot better. I can still do better though…

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SenaWave he got 6Gbps

[chrome hound]

He did indeed get a 10G promo for 3 months

[rocky badge]

ah

[chrome hound]

I should poke him and see what he gets to my speed test server 😄

[rocky badge]

😂

I'd really like to see if it's the speedtest server or the UDMP bottlenecking him

@chrome hound I remember you have Extreme, you like it? Lol

[chrome hound]

its hard to bet for the price I paid for it

[rocky badge]

Did you actually pay for it...or was it free? lol

[chrome hound]

between ports I can get a solid 10g but when I connect through other stuff like proxmox I loss speed, which I can expect

hey I had to carry that all the way down to my car after picking it off the throw out table

[rocky badge]

😂

[chrome hound]

so I would SAY I paid by the pound

[rocky badge]

https://blob.rocks/4DMVmpDL1d.png

my only 10 gig are these two lol

Everything else is only Gigabit 😦

[chrome hound]

If I by pass my fire wall I get 5.5 and 9.6 not bad

https://www.speedtest.net/result/d/fda5dc1b-5253-47a3-ae04-61b3dc3e45b3.png

[hollow marlin]

@rocky badge I'd go with his UDMP being the bottleneck

[rocky badge]

yeah

[hollow marlin]

Tried looking on reddit if anyone actually tested 10g routing with the pro and no results other than Ubi's claims

[rocky badge]

https://blob.rocks/bAEpUOhTVU.png

This is the only info I have, which is from a Ubiquiti employee in the discord

one guy in Ubiquiti has 10 gigabit Internet, but can't put a 10 gig card in anything

[vapid dune]

UPS to the rescue... the power randomly went out for a bit

[little schooner]

@vapid dune UPS destroyed my package. I am disappoint

Now acer is saying stand is busted and can't be used

[ashen frigate]

@chrome hound Who's your ISP in SLC? I've been on Google fiber and am thinking of shopping around and your speeds.... i envy them

[chrome hound]

I work for UTOPIA, and they are my ISP, but the UTOPIA network has about 15 or so providers that you can chose from, SLC is a bit hit and miss we have fiber there, but mostly business area's Centery Link and Google have a chock hold on the area

you can check your address on utopiafiber.com and see if there is service there or not

[plain zinc]

@chrome hound how much you pay internet for that much download and upload?

[chrome hound]

it various from 199 to 250 depending which provider you go with

[plain zinc]

@chrome hound also can you help me out with my internet or i mean answer a quick question

[chrome hound]

but that is of course residential service, so its subject to rates not being 10g

I can sure give it a try, what the question

[plain zinc]

So i live in a small town with like 1,500 people

[chrome hound]

Utah area?

[plain zinc]

no oregon

[chrome hound]

oh ok

[plain zinc]

so

he pays 100 for internet and

im pretty sure that hes getting ripped of

bascially we pay for a certain amount and they arent even giving anywhere near the amount they are suppose to provide

[chrome hound]

well that's kind of depends, how fast is the line, how many other providers can get to your area

[plain zinc]

im pretty sure all the big ones we can go too

[chrome hound]

remote location with small population can cost more to get connections to

so 100 for what rates?

[plain zinc]

i know its alot more than this

[chrome hound]

what is this?

[chrome hound]

there is a link you can share to make that more readable, but I get the jist

how far away is the speed test server?

I can't see the small details

[plain zinc]

80 miles from here to the server

wait give me a sec

ive made a mistake

[chrome hound]

have you call Comcast and complained? are you directly connected to there modem or via router?

[plain zinc]

not directly got lan cable

even switching servers increases barely

[chrome hound]

I mean is there another device between your PC and the Modem provided by comcast?

[plain zinc]

nope

the only thing is a wall and the modem is about 10 feet away

[chrome hound]

ok so you really need to get on there case than with cable modem there are a lost of factors that can reduce speed, including your neigboors

you are on shared media with a cable internet, so your internet takes a back seat to anything else coming down the cable

but they are do things to fix the connection, like adding a line booster at your house, fixing old cable connections, even a lose cable can cause problems

but your up will proablay never get better than 30 mb

[plain zinc]

line booster?

[chrome hound]

your down should be 50mb unless you are paying for a pro grade service, at 100 I think you might be on the higher teir, but I am not sure, it been a long time since I had to deal with comcast, My parents still have it, but its pretty well setup for them currently

yea its a device that plugs into the wall outlet and boost the signal to your device

well 50 or better, I know people localy that get 300mb down most days

on comcat that is

but you need to become a pain in there butt to get them to take notice and fix it, about 10 years ago my dads cable was having random problems, so it would cause internet drops station quailty, come to find out they have a run of 50 year old main line cable feeding my dads area and when the farmer that had a field across the back side of my dad plot water the cows it was shorting out the old line

took them 2 months to finally send a guy out at the right time to see the shorting and confirm what we had been telling them

comcast is a slow moving money sucking beast, and are never willing to do something until you have them dead to rights on proof

[plain zinc]

thats why i was going to ask, would it be better to switch to another company?

[chrome hound]

if they can offer better service yep always look for the best service

they aren't looking after you, or your speeds wouldn't be that crappy

[plain zinc]

kk thanks dude

you were alot of help

[chrome hound]

np I didn't really do anything you were not already looking to do 😄

[plain zinc]

peace

[little schooner]

@chrome hound I think they are correctly referred to as CONcast...

[rocky badge]

commiecast

comcrap

[little schooner]

@rocky badge I'm feeling a little more neutral towards them as of late

I mean their service line never goes down...

its been a full year and its still up

[rocky badge]

nice lol

[little schooner]

ahahaha... now if were talking about Frontier Communications

lets not get started with how awful their track record is xD

[rocky badge]

cox/s

@bold shore can testify for frontier

(Shadow, remember, no caps the bot doesn't like it, I know you do tho :P)

[bold shore]

Ah yes

[vapid dune]

@little schooner ? https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/hr7iak/ups_did_a_real_bang_up_job_on_their_shipping

[bold shore]

Lmao

Frontier can die in a pit of fire tbh

[little schooner]

@vapid dune omg i feared thats what would of happened

but luckily, no it was just the stand that took a beating

[bold shore]

Can't wait till they go bankrupt and hopefully sell their fiber assets to a company that has more wits than a rock

[rocky badge]

😂

[vapid dune]

Ah lol

I thought it was yours when you complained

[bold shore]

Ah, a new blob pfp I see

[little schooner]

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/06/fcc-lets-isps-keep-charging-users-for-nonexistent-routers-because-of-covid/

thats how you know froniter is worse than comcast

[rocky badge]

@bold shore yes

[thick minnow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/732308604748693684/732887582978867250/ladda_ned_1.jpg
networking 100

[distant wedge]

Okay wait what the fuck

You have to pay to rent equipment you own???

[thick minnow]

Hey, so I have kind of a though.. n*t to crack; Basically, my computer itself is capping my internet.

[frigid sphinx]

Oh?

[thick minnow]

Graphs show it's only using 1% of my bandwidth. My ISP says I'm getting the full 2.5MB/s and my family confirms this, I've replaced cables, I've replaced the modem / router, I've turned it on and off, I've done virus scans.. Nothing.

I came back from vacation last Tuesday and it's been like this since, nothing I've tried works, and I can't factory reset my PC because I don't have a windows disc nor a disc port.

[frigid sphinx]

so this is speedtest?

so your phone to the router to speedtest is ok?

[thick minnow]

Yeah, speedtest says I'm getting 20mbps.

Sometimes it's not even 5kb/s though.

[hollow marlin]

What bandwidth are you paying for?

[thick minnow]

I'm not really too techy, and I'm not the one paying for this.

I'm supposed to be getting 20MBps, though.

I know that it's copper wire internet, though.

[hollow marlin]

20Mbps is equal to 2.5MBps. If you able to hit 2.5MBps on download in steam then you are hitting your cap. There are 8 bits in 1 byte.

[frigid sphinx]

umm I see a problem in that team fortress download...

[thick minnow]

Of course, I know that much, I was using the 2 interchangably.

You do? :p

I could be playing the Scream Fortress update when it's finished..

But yeah, that's the problem, speedtest says things are fine, everything else definitely says otherwise.

[hollow marlin]

They are most definitely not interchangeable. What is the highest you have gotten with Steam since this all started?

[thick minnow]

Yesterday I got a random peak of 1.7MBps while "test downloading" something just to see how bad things really were. Though the lowest I got was like..0.7kbps.

Don't know how long it lasted, musn't have been very long though.

Here's a pic of my resource monitor, it's something alright.

[clear igloo]

@waxen scroll I need to get gud clearly

[thick minnow]

I've no idea why my computer would do this, came back from vacation and suddenly my internet's like this.

[frigid sphinx]

wired? wireless?

is there any local loss to the router?

[thick minnow]

My computer's wired to the router, yeah.

[frigid sphinx]

did someone roll a beer keg over the cable run ...

[thick minnow]

Unless we've got house elves, I don't think so. ))

[frigid sphinx]

the elves went too far!!

so if you ping the router do you see packet loss ?

but speedtest works.

which makes me think it's beyond the router but everyone else is getting ok speeds...

[thick minnow]

As I said, it's a tough n*t to crack. There's no forum threads I've come across that have had this same problem, and their solutions don't work on my end.

Mind, I've been looking and testing for a solution on my own for about a week now, I'm thinking if this place doesn't have an answer it's pretty much done for.

[waxen scroll]

whose your isp

[thick minnow]

Local in our town, JNT.

Known for being pretty shiet, but it's not on their end.

[waxen scroll]

is it DSL?

[thick minnow]

I'm not techy enough to know what that is, I know I've got copper wire though.

[waxen scroll]

is it a phone line wire ?

[thick minnow]

Yeah.

[waxen scroll]

yeah, so thats DSL and i cant speak for your area but the max ive seen offered over that tech is 1.5 - 2.0MBit/s

its very very rare its more than that

i think you're working fine

[thick minnow]

Well, we got 2.5MB/s when it was all working fine, but now I'm getting 5kb/s.

[waxen scroll]

but the speed test claims you get 2.0+ while the computer claims its not?

[thick minnow]

Yeah, speedtest says 2.5MB/s while of course, my actual download speed is between 1 and 150 kb/s.

It takes like.. 1-2 minutes to go to a webpage, at least 5 minutes to boot up Discord after I boot my computer, and maybe 6 to start steam after a boot.

So yeah

Not 2.5MB/s

And here's the resource monitor.

[frigid sphinx]

so that smells like packet loss to me

mtu fragmentation crazy?

if you're trying to send jumboframes or somethign and fragmentation is getting all messedup

[thick minnow]

..I don't know what half of that means, but should you give instructions, I'll follow them.

)

Turned Jumboframes off in the network config, hoping that might do something.

[frigid sphinx]

is local network performance also bad?

can you transfer things over the lan quickly?

[thick minnow]

Elaborate?

Uploading images and stuff?

[frigid sphinx]

like copying files from one pc to the other on the network

between computers in your house

[thick minnow]

Oh, it's only my computer that's hooked up.

In fact, I have the only desktop in the house.

But yeah, if you have anything I could try, don't hesitate to shoot.

In fact, if anyone has anything, just tell me. )

[frigid sphinx]

so is there anything else on the network?

[thick minnow]

Yeah, my family's got their devices on it.

[vapid dune]

2KBps?!

[thick minnow]

Finnish internet really be like that sometimes.

But yeah, it takes like 5 minutes to load discord after I boot my computer.

Sometimes Steam doesn't even count me as online.

Spotify doesn't work.

I can't get past the login screen on any games.

It takes webpages like a minute or 2 to load.

[little schooner]

I just found out the starlink is accepting addresses to beta test their internet. I hope this is my chance to finally do away with Comcast at least at my apartment

[waxen scroll]

dat blue

@little schooner already applied

[little schooner]

I want to know soon

How long as it been open for? 4 days?

[waxen scroll]

i dont do a lot of latency sensitive stuff right now so im willing to see if i can give comcast an FU

no, months

[little schooner]

Oh dang

The service address part though

Months too?

[waxen scroll]

no, few days

[little schooner]

Just in time then

I read that it will be $1 during beta test?

I have large windows here that would be perfect for it

To get that line of sight

[waxen scroll]

im not sure what the cost is

i would probably opt to do outdoor antenna for best results

$1 would be ideal because i have an early termination fee on comcast

but i think its been cut in half by now

[hollow marlin]

@little schooner Didn't they say you can use pretty much any dish for the frequency they are using?

I haven't looked into it in a few months but I still have an dish from previous owners in the attic I might test this out with

[little schooner]

@hollow marlin not sure it was very light on details

The only thing ive seen for a dish is the recently fcc certified starlink router dish

@waxen scroll is it weather resistant?

what do you put on hardware to resist the rusting?

[hollow marlin]

There are special weather resistant coatings/paints you could use if its not already weather resistant

Typically the main points to a weather coating are UV resistance as well as hot/cold resistant.

[little schooner]

oh, none for preventing water from leaking in?

maybe use silcone for that?

you should see how my alarm system installer put my doorbell camera

[hollow marlin]

Yeah that as well. Silicon is an easy fix as well as gaskets if possible

[little schooner]

its pretty funny

i think its silicon or whatever but it is very messy and large

it doesn't look right

@hollow marlin hmm. yeah gaskets i think are better

they don't leave a hardened goo overtime

gaskets work because rubber and silicon are resistant against water?

my cameras use a black one

[hollow marlin]

Yep, mainly because they are hydrophobic and will cause the bead to use surface tension to create an addional seal

[little schooner]

thats pretty cool

[hollow marlin]

Also if you do not have a gasket for what ever project you are doing to can take silicon and bead it onto wax paper, let it dry and use that as a gasket. Did that in the past for some projects and worked great.

No mess when you take it off later on

[little schooner]

oh dang thats a good trick

yeah ill remember that one. I lost a gasket or two for some pillar lights that really need it again

water was getting inside the light

[vapid dune]

https://eandt.theiet.org/content/articles/2020/07/robot-wraps-fibre-optic-cables-around-existing-power-lines/

[hollow marlin]

All they did was add a motor to already existing tool. That tool is manual but is how fiber is attach to the tension line

As far as deployment good luck getting past the power companies to allow fiber being strapped to their lines

[vapid dune]

that sounds like a maintenance nightmare

[little schooner]

@vapid dune did you say this looked easy to you?

I don't even know if I'm right

they are making me take this as a networking admin major

[waxen scroll]

@little schooner how is circuit formed?

[little schooner]

@waxen scroll by connecting a wire to a positive lead and connecting the other wire to a negative lead of the same source

to make a circuit loop

now the danger that remains is that current is increasing rapidly

the resistor will keep that from going too high

[waxen scroll]

seems like you know what you're doing

[thick minnow]

fug it

going to try to restore my PC to 2015

[waxen scroll]

sure.

it wont fix anything.

[thick minnow]

It's all I've got.

[hollow marlin]

I don't mind the full work from home but the constant 6 figures worth of gear at home for provision/labbing and it's power cost is getting under ma skin. Having to find more random places to "mount" this crap

[waxen scroll]

slap a kill-a-watt on there and bill them

[hollow marlin]

As of this setup there is one at the outlet

[waxen scroll]

👀

[hollow marlin]

Waiting on the 100gig switch to arrive to fully test this setup along with my optics

[little schooner]

@hollow marlin wow they are beautiful

but yeah bill em for this

say its like driving miles in your car, except for power lol

[hollow marlin]

I like Ciena's design a lot. Their CLI is a nightmare though

[waxen scroll]

@little schooner cisco ASR9k has the total package

[icy frigate]

Dang that’s a sexy setup

[little schooner]

@waxen scroll I see

[west vortex]

Hey all. Anyone familiar with OpenWRT? Curious if I can install a supported router’s OWRT firmware on a router that’s not listed that shares the same CPU

[spare bay]

yes probably

[west vortex]

@spare bay Will it matter if one router is AC1900 and the other is AC2600? Or will the firmware work just fine?

everything else seems to match up hardware wise

[spare bay]

the answer is in that screenshot I sent

if the SoC is the same, yes

[west vortex]

Okay so as long as it's all there in the screenshot, the rest doesnt matter. Okay, awesome. Thank you

yeah SoC is the same and it's 128MB NAND

[spare bay]

for the record I take no responsibility and I have never done it myself but I know it should be possible

[west vortex]

and 256MB RAM

yeah I understand

I have a way to unbrick it just in case

[spare bay]

I'm assuming TP-link AC2600

right?

because it looks like people have done that one

[west vortex]

No. Netgear Nighthawk R7450

It's physically identical to the R6800, the R7450 is the AC2600 version that is sold via Walmart (lol). The R6800 is AC1900

But all the hardware is the same.

[ornate jungle]

MediaTek MT7621AT
oof um yeah MediaTek based routers aren't great, but some are supported by OpenWRT.

[west vortex]

Yeah

Yeah I know. I am just looking to mess around with it for some more functionality. I am planning on going Ubiquiti eventually with hardwiring in the house and using the Dream Machine rackmounts, switches and APs

[plain zinc]

yo can someone help me out?

[ornate jungle]

We would first need to know what you need help with before we're able to gauge if we can help.

[plain zinc]

this might sound like a really stupid question

and i know nothing about it

if i live next to a school thats supplied with fiber optic internet, would that in anyway make fiber optic installation cheaper?

that might be a really dumb question

[spare bay]

depends

[ornate jungle]

100% depends on how the ISP in your area has run fibre to homes, if they even have

[spare bay]

that might mean theres hookups nearby for companies like comcast/whatever you have in the states

[ornate jungle]

you'll best contact the ISP to find out

[spare bay]

or, it's a business line and you can't afford that

if you can see where it connects, try and look for any ISP names on boxes/poles nearby

ISPs in my area have online portals to check if they do fibre to the house in your area, so you can look that up too

[plain zinc]

ok thank you guys

wtf

homie i do D:4mbps and U; .03mbps

shits rigged

[west vortex]

@spare bay welp, that was fun. It accepted the firmware but I couldnt access the config page, so I had to restore the default fw and restore my settings backup

oh well

[vapid dune]

not bad not bad

[little schooner]

Flexing that upload speed. One I don't have 😢

[hollow marlin]

@little schooner Its easy, just get more

[celest zodiac]

whats a good tplink router below the $90 price range

im looking at the C7 right now

[inland bluff]

flexing my godly slow wifi

[vapid dune]

Why tp link

[inland bluff]

? sorry haven't slept in a bit

[vapid dune]

Oh not your message, guy above you

[inland bluff]

oh l

[thick minnow]

Good news, lads

Now I'm getting 18kbps instead of 2, progress!

Only 9 days and 21 hours to install Team Fortress 2, what a deal.

[hollow marlin]

@thick minnow Have you tried just rolling back updates? Update 2004 has been a nightmare with network drivers

[thick minnow]

How would I go about doing that?

( @hollow marlin )

Also sorry if my responses are a bit slow, I'm having family time and of course sending messages with this internet takes either 1 second or 120 seconds.

[hollow marlin]

@thick minnow Hold shift while pressing restart in the Windows menu and it will bring you to recovery. From there you can choose to restore to an earlier point. I would let that run and see if there are any changes

[waxen scroll]

@hollow marlin i dont play this dumb speed screenshot game

all that matters is I work on gear that costs $500k and you dont

#blessed 😇

[hollow marlin]

500k, awww how cute ☺️

I think each of our MX10003 with all the line cards/sfps is just shy of ~2-300k. The 4 of them are basically idle in terms of what we throw at them vs what they can handle. Juniper isn't expensive enough to push 7 digits

Our voice side of things is easily 7 figures

[thick minnow]

Hey @hollow marlin , when I do this, it brings me to the big blue windows screen, tells me it's prepearing to update windows, gets done with telling me that, then tells me it's shutting off.

Thing is, it doesn't shut off.

Had it saying "shutting off.." for at least 3 hours.

What do you reckon I can do?

Also, about the internet on our phones and stuff, I'm now noticing that we're not getting good reception, the vertical bars only go up to 2-3 out of 4, while the bendy horizontal bars are at full power.

[thick minnow]

Taken at the same time.

Oh- that doesn't say kbps, huh?

Well, webpages are still taking ages to load.

I guess that might be explained by the downloading, though?

This is quite something.

Are the boys back in town?

Is this it?

[thick minnow]

Now it's back to low kbps.

What could be causing this?

Oh yeah, I have a solid 60 TCPs, could this be part of the issue?

[thick minnow]

Deleted my cookies, 40TCPs now.

Man- I had 2.5MBps when I was downloading a WT update earlier, now it's back to 10-50kbps.

[little schooner]

The speed is low enough that it could be a problem with the signal coming into the home

Chasing it as a problem with windows update is unlikely the solution

[thick minnow]

How would I go about fixing that?

..And would I need a technician to fix it?

For reference we have copper wire, VDSL / ADSL

If anyone's got anything to say, don't hesitate, anything that MIGHT fix it is worth hearing.

[primal ice]

its not going to show full speed unless you are using it normal traffic - discord steam what ever is going to be around 10-50kb usage. - the last time I had a similar issue like you are having the network card/port (built on to the motherboard) was starting to fail.

[thick minnow]

Alright, do you know how I might be able to fix the card?

[primal ice]

get a network expansion card and see if it fixes it.

[thick minnow]

Is that a physical item or something I can download?

I haven't access to shops atm.

[primal ice]

physical item

[thick minnow]

Damn.

Know anything about the cost?

[primal ice]

where are you?

[thick minnow]

Finland, basically everything's expensive up here.

That's why my hopes are so low ))

[primal ice]

https://www.amazon.nl/SEDNA-Gigabit-LAN-adapter-Intel-82545EM-chipset/dp/B017RJW3JC

https://www.amazon.de/TP-Link-TG-3468-Netzwerk-1000Mbit-s-PCIe-Adapter/dp/B003CFATNI cheap tplink from the german amazon site.

[thick minnow]

Man, it's taking like 5 minutes to get messages through.

But, this might be the issue?

Is there anything else I can try?

There we go

Actually took 7 minutes to send.

[primal ice]

could try finding the drivers from manufactures site and reinstalling them. but from everything you said I would suspect failing hardware over a driver issue. but its worth a try.

[thick minnow]

Are you sure it might not have been a windows update? I was gone for a week, I think the PC might have updated while we were gone.

I don't know why hardware would fail when it's not on.

[primal ice]

hardware just fails. it doesn't need a reason to. try the drivers first though.

[kind sky]

Trying to replace a network cable having huge dl issues any suggestions to what the issue is beforehand?

[thick minnow]

How would I go about fixing the drivers?

[primal ice]

if your ethernet port is built on to the motherboard go to the motherboard manufacturers site. look for network drivers. if it is already an expansion card look in device manager to see what it says it is and google drivers for that.

[thick minnow]

I'll look into that, cheers.

Still taking suggestions of course, I feel the Network Card should be a last resort.

[thick minnow]

Damn, talking to another techie, I've apparently got a fouled Ethernet card.

So this means new MoBo

And because of my CPU being LGA 1156 I've got to get a new CPU.

And because of my RAM being DDR3 I've likely got to get new RAM.

AAAAAAAAAAAA

[primal ice]

Does not mean a new motherboard/system it means you will need to get an expansion card for ethernet. unless of course you want to upgrade.

[thick minnow]

Oh really?

I have no plans on upgrading, it's too much money and I'm happy with what I've got.

[primal ice]

oh and I like the company that took over for Frontier Washington State. They offer 1gb internet cheaper than their 250mb tier. (base price) if we qualified for their promotional stuff - the 250mb would be cheaper.

[icy frigate]

I have no plans on upgrading, it's too much money and I'm happy with what I've got.
@thick minnow @primal ice is correct, if you’ve got a 4x slot on your mobo & space in your case, you can pick up a gigabit NIC that’s decent for like $50

[thick minnow]

I know what about half of those words mean. ))

But yeah, fair enough, I guess this thing technically doesn't even have a side panel anymore, so why not?

Where could I get one, and how would I go about getting it installed?

..And is this even confirmed to be the ethernet that's fouled?

[icy frigate]

I was guessing about $50, but it’s even a lot cheaper than that

TP-Link TG-3468 10/100/1000Mbps Gigabit PCI Express Network Adapter https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B003CFATNI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_MymeFb3282M71

That’s a TP link, relatively reputable networking brand

[primal ice]

his board is old - would need to find a pci 1gb ethernet card.

[icy frigate]

$15 CAD

Oh

Damn

[thick minnow]

P7P55D, yeah.

[icy frigate]

That’s old

[thick minnow]

Old

[icy frigate]

Disregard

[thick minnow]

Some teen build this when I was a kid in 2014.

This stuff might've been old even at the time.

[icy frigate]

X-MEDIA 1-Port PCI 10/100/1000Mbps Gigabit Ethernet PCI Network Adapter/Network Card, Windows 10 & Linux Supported, Low Profile Bracket Included [XM-NA3500] https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00YSNWLAC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_xAmeFb859S847

Reviews are okay but I don’t know the brand so take it with a grain of salt

But it will fit a PCI slot on an older board

[thick minnow]

Ah, both out of stock and sold on a New World amazon site, I'm in Europe. )

Anyway, what should I be looking for, any specific terms?

[primal ice]

https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Gigabit-Ethernet-Network-ST1000BT32 try that one on the euro site.

[thick minnow]

Hm, page doesn't work on my end.

[primal ice]

bad link on my part. 😒

[thick minnow]

https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Gigabit-Ethernet-Network-ST1000BT32/dp/B0000TO0BQ

I guess this is the proper link? (No problem, by the way ))

[primal ice]

StarTech.com 1 Port PCI 10/100/1000 32 Bit Gigabit Ethernet Network Adapter Card (ST1000BT32)

yeah that one

[thick minnow]

Aha, that's another New World site I found myself on.

[icy frigate]

10/100/1000 mbps, PCI specifically (not PCI-E). The connector pins part of the board will be long, not short

[thick minnow]

30€ shipping really hurts my wallet.

Alright, I'll look for that, then.

[primal ice]

better than 800-3000 for a new system

[thick minnow]

Yeah, but of course, spending minimum on tech means I can spend maximum on tools for raiding France.

I mean food for me and my 9 children.

And 3 wives. ))

But yeah, I'll definitely look into it.

[primal ice]

though with something that old. a 300 dollar system would probably be an upgrade 😄

[thick minnow]

Yeah, but hey, it works, and I'll frankenstein this thing until the day I die.

..Or upgrade.

Probably need a new CPU though, this thing gets crazy hot.

Before I got new thermal paste this thing was IDLING at +99c, the boiling temperature for water, for like 2 or 3 weeks straight.

Of course I fixed it as soon as I noticed it but man, I don't know how this thing hasn't exploded yet.

https://www.digishop.fi/tp-link-pci-express-verkkokortti-10-100-1000-mbps-rj45.html

Doesn't even work for Win 10

I guess I'm lucky to have stuck with 7.

[primal ice]

that won't work for you you need pci that is a pci-e card.

[thick minnow]

Aha, the E stands for Express. Gotcha.

[primal ice]

https://www.digishop.fi/d-link-gigabit-verkkokortti-kupari-tp-32-bit-pci.html that one

[thick minnow]

:-DD

I'll get it ASAP then, and tell you how it goes.

[primal ice]

actually looking at the motherboard it does have pci-e slots also. so the pci-e card would work.

[thick minnow]

It just keeps twisting, huh?

Oh yeah, it does indeed say PCIE in certain ports on the MoBo.

[primal ice]

yeah I just looked up the socket and most of the stuff that came up for lga 1156 only had pci slots. but then you posted the motherboard model and I thought I would look at that. 😄

still 2009 motherboard though. its even older than my 2010 x58 boards.

[thick minnow]

Sheesh, did it get produced for a long time or do I actually have a product made in 2009?

[icy frigate]

Sheesh, did it get produced for a long time or do I actually have a product made in 2009?
@thick minnow Maybe a bit of column a & b? Processor tech was moving faster than it did for most of the 2010s around that time, though

[steel rock]

so, i'm cheap AF, so I picked up a couple of PCI-X quad port ethernet cards, does anyone have experience running a PCI-X card in a PCI (conventional) slot? from a light googling it looks like it will work at a reduced speed

[deft pasture]

@steel rock yeah pretty much

[abstract magnet]

can somone help me

[rugged fern]

so ive been having trouble with my ethernet to my rig. my speeds appear to be capped at 100mbps. I have the cat6 cable wired directly from the router. The cable showed speeds up to ~330mbps on different devices. when i use wifi on my rig, I get the speeds up to ~300mbps so idk why the hardline would be so much less. Any thoughts? (I checked the adapter settings and saw that it was at 100, but i can't increase it)

[vapid dune]

try a new cable

what kind of router is it?

[chrome hound]

waht kind of adapter is it? USB?

[rugged fern]

its the cable provided router, but it has the correct speeds on other devices through wifi and cables. I tested the cable on other devices too and it gets higher speeds there too. the adapter is part of the mobo.

[abstract magnet]

i have this problem that when i do a speed test the speed spikes up to 550 (i am paying for 600) and then goes down and stays down in the high 300's to low 400's range. can someone help me. i do the tests wired to ethernet

[chrome hound]

when you say through WiFi that doesn't make sense, do you mean if you switch to WiFi? but it seems like the Port on the MB is either hard set to neg at 100mb or is a shit device that can only do 100mb

@abstract magnet speed testing has a vary wide rang of results

[abstract magnet]

yeah well thats always happends

i have another device that doesnt do this

[chrome hound]

you will never see a 600 becuase of over head, and often times ISP will give speed test traffic less bandwitdh

[abstract magnet]

i have another device that gest 700

[rugged fern]

so when i run speedtest on wifi my speeds triple. the motherboard adapter says it is supposed to be a gig

[abstract magnet]

also i have a cm1000v2 and a tp link archer ax 3000

[chrome hound]

does your CPU max out when you run the speed test, and are you using the browser or the app?

[abstract magnet]

browser

[chrome hound]

@rugged fern if its sodl ass a gig than I would check your drivers and see whats going on there

@abstract magnet try the app

[rugged fern]

says up to date on all drivers for the adapter and everything else

[chrome hound]

but check your CPU if its pegging out you are probably hitting a bottle neck

[abstract magnet]

oh

[chrome hound]

you need to dig into the setting of the adapter, there is a negotation section that tells the adapter how to communcite

[abstract magnet]

i am upgrading my rig next week so...

is it worth it

?

[chrome hound]

upgrading? depends are your use case

[abstract magnet]

cpu mobob cooler

[chrome hound]

that doesn't really address your use case, why do you want to upgrade and what are you needs of the system

[abstract magnet]

i was already upgrading

not for the internet

[chrome hound]

ok

[abstract magnet]

yeah

i currently have fx-6100

oof

[strong escarp]

Guys, If i want to host my own Personal VPN i have a Singapore VPS i want to create a vpn on that for my PC's

I'm not sure what to use.

[distant wedge]

hey y'all, anyone here know what's going on with this?

[hollow marlin]

Looks like there was a scheduled maintenance. We do the same. Lower DHCP lease times pre-dhcp sever maintenance and then increase it back after

[waxen scroll]

no need fam

if comcast doesnt have to do it, why do you

ive had the same dhcp IP for like 7 years

[little schooner]

@waxen scroll It's perfect because it makes it easy for me to do an IP firewall rule to only allow traffic from my other site, without opening it up to the rest of the world

Still, wish edgerouter supported dns names in firewall rules

same goes for pfsense

@waxen scroll why would the use of DNS names in firewall rules be a feature?

[waxen scroll]

because back in the day you didnt need to do that. its always static IP

[distant wedge]

Thank you @hollow marlin :p

[hollow marlin]

@little schooner even with Juniper you can use A records in the rules but upon commiting it resolves the name and replaces the record with an IP in the config. Reason I think many vendors impliment it that way is if the IP changes the networking stack has to be restarted. At least for Linux based OSes

[little schooner]

@hollow marlin hmm... so it sounds like that would be good if the IP isn't going to change as much

but then at that point, it was still better to use static

i don't think company wants router to restart at all

ahhhhh...........

i think with a network script it can probably work?

like a linux cron job

[waxen scroll]

@little schooner can we close cloudflare already?

[distant wedge]

No

No closing cloudflare

[vapid dune]

what's wrong with CF?

[little schooner]

@vapid dune

[vapid dune]

lol

[little schooner]

@hollow marlin does CODEL help my connection not get overwhelmed if my upload speed is around 8mbps?

I'm trying to avoid the scenario where everything on my net gets slow when upload speed is being maxed out

Like http and https traffic

[delicate drift]

hi guys I am confused, what are different types of modems?

[random fulcrum]

Are you talking about routers vs modems ? @delicate drift

[delicate drift]

no i know their differences but are there different types of modems?

[random fulcrum]

Oh then when I’m not sure about that then

Have you checked google?

[delicate drift]

there are different answers haha some says there are two types cable modems and DSL modems some says there are 5 types

[ornate jungle]

there are many many types of modems - the most common for residential internet are DOCSIS (cable) and DSL (many variants)

[delicate drift]

oh okay thank you

[vapid dune]

O.o

What are you trying to figure out?

I mean someone probably still uses dial up

[icy frigate]

In 6 hours I'm replacing Bell's garbage Home Hub 3K with Videotron & finally saying goodbye to that absolute garbage horseshit ISP after 5 long, LONG weeks

Do not buy Bell's internet service if you have any intention of using aftermarket networking hardware

Especially if remote management is important to you

After 7 phone calls with their tech support I can conclude that it is their goal that you not use any aftermarket networking hardware, so they have control over your home network &, more importantly, your data

[vapid dune]

Huh is that fiber?

[icy frigate]

Yup

[vapid dune]

I think you can just bypass it

[icy frigate]

1 gbps, which is what attracted me

There's no bridge mode

[vapid dune]

I mean no ISP really wants to support third party but yeah

I hear the bypass is kinda rough

[delicate drift]

hi guys I have a question is going to college to study networking still worth it or just after highschool and taking some online course and getting certificates like CCNA, A+ Cloud services a better path?

[vapid dune]

They don't have control over your data...

[icy frigate]

The ONLY way to get your home networking hardware exposed to the WAN IP for your modem, as per their own tech support, is to stick your router in their DMZ & assign the WAN IP as a static IP on your router

Here's the kicker though: they kick your router off the network every 18 hours

And when you reboot their modem (which is the only way to get it working again) it assigns the modem a new WAN IP

Which you have to input into your router manually

[vapid dune]

https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r32230041-Internet-Bypassing-the-HH3K-up-to-2-5Gbps-using-a-BCM57810S-NIC

Nah there's a thread about it lol

You can get around it from what I've read. I don't live in that area though

Agree with you it's generally not worth the headaches

[icy frigate]

The problem I have is that a particular computer can get around it sure, but I need my router exposed to the WAN IP to set up my DDNS to VPN into my home network

[rocky badge]

I wish AT&T would let you plug anything into the ONT 😦

[icy frigate]

So I can access my security cameras & NAS

[vapid dune]

The thread is about how to bypass it

So exactly that

Yeah I just have an ONT with my ISP @rocky badge

I hear there's also SFP but I don't have the hardware

[rocky badge]

I'm probably just use IP passthrough

[vapid dune]

Straight into the bloodstream is of course best

[icy frigate]

Yeah, this thread is about bypassing using a PC on the network with a particular set of broadcom chipsets

It's not about getting a WRT router to bypass

[vapid dune]

Apparently you can just take out the SFP too https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r32803491-Internet-How-to-setup-router-instead-of-using-bell-home-hub-3000

[rocky badge]

I'd love to take SFP into my switch

PON -> SFP in switch

everything's connected to my switches, including modem, soon to be ONT, lol

[vapid dune]

lol

[rocky badge]

That also allows me to plug in WAN anywhere

and get WAN anywhere

[vapid dune]

I haven't even bought into the higher speeds on my ISP

I hear they just opened up 1.5/950

lol

[rocky badge]

Uplink trunks carry VLAN 100, but ports don't have access to it

Except WAN in and WAN out

[vapid dune]

Not sure I'd want to get 1.5... no reason to yet

[rocky badge]

Lol

[vapid dune]

I'm on 750 ... So that's like double down

[rocky badge]

Port 43 is WAN in

44 is WAN out

[vapid dune]

lol

[rocky badge]

43 goes to mode, 44 goes to pfSense WAN

50 is SFP+ from pfSense LAN

45-48 is a LACP to the Cisco switch underneath that one

[vapid dune]

Huh 4 ports?

[rocky badge]

Yeah

[vapid dune]

The bot doesn't like the word

Aggregation

[icy frigate]

Yeah, that PPPoE passthrough doesn't work - you set it up & it just rejects your credentials.

[rocky badge]

yikes

rip

[stable ice]

@vapid dune you'd know why if your DMs were open.

[rocky badge]

I'm glad it's just dhcp here

@vapid dune

[icy frigate]

Honestly, videotron is coming in at 7:30 tomorrow morning & installing a connection that is 1/3 the speed but at least has a simple bridge mode so I can avoid a gd headache

Bell can go to hell

[rocky badge]

Port 49 goes to desktop

[icy frigate]

@rocky badge I am jealous of that gorgeous switching action

[vapid dune]

lol sorry overlord bot

[rocky badge]

Lol

It's a US-48 on top of a C2960S-48LPS-L

[vapid dune]

I'd take fiber with headaches over cable internet

With slower speeds xD

But depends how much you need

[icy frigate]

400mbps is fine for my purposes

[rocky badge]

We're switching to Gigabit/Gigabit soon

[vapid dune]

Yeah I don't think I'd be happy with that anymore

Having a VPN hosted at home is nice

[icy frigate]

And honestly, after a month just trying to be able to see my security cameras remotely, I'm ready for a company to come in & make it simple

I'd kill for an unmanaged modem, but that isn't a thing anymore apparently

[rocky badge]

lol

[vapid dune]

How much upload?

[rocky badge]

tr-069 say hello

cisco web ui sucks, but I don't have my ssh private key on this laptop yet lol

so I can't ssh into the switch

[icy frigate]

Not 100% on the upload speed - I'm pretty sure 100+mbps, but I was running videotron's 120mbps before my move & it was fine.

[rocky badge]

my upload right now on spectrum is shit lol

10Mbps

[icy frigate]

I wanted gigabit for gigabit's sake & after my experience with Bell I'd take 10 mbps & a kick in the nuts over having to send them another red cent

[rocky badge]

lol

3 days

[waxen scroll]

@vapid dune close it because they're constantly responsible for major internet outages and too many people put chokepoints on their DNS and websites

Some services I use also get affected by regional or state outages of cloudflare

[little schooner]

@waxen scroll after playing around with Qos a bit, it looks like its basically a necessity if I'm going to use it to upload files directly to another site?

Because everything comes to a screeching halt when file transfer starts

Upload speed for me gets maxed out

[waxen scroll]

try a simple throttle first

let your router first in first out with a policer

[little schooner]

@waxen scroll hmm like the one that's built into the onedrive client right?

That seemed to help

I put limit on upload

[vapid dune]

https://www.theregister.com/2020/07/17/ufo_vpn_database/

[icy frigate]

Hey so you know how I was saying that Bell Home Hub 3000 has no way of enabling bridge mode & PPPoE & DMZ don’t work reliably to expose the WAN IP to third party routers? Videotron’s router/modem management page’s FIRST OPTION is “enable bridge mode y/n”

Relieved

[frigid sphinx]

I hate this wifi card so much.. I've got 6gb to upload and it's so very very variable.

[bold karma]

My upload and download right now are matching exactly the same. 0/0

And ISP won’t be out until Monday. Which honestly is unacceptable since I pay for a business connection. 9th time in 6 months I’ve had to call them. So they are out the door.

[frigid sphinx]

yeah I've got a 6gb upload to complete in the next 4hrs or I'll get phhonecalls of 'where's the church stream'

[vapid dune]

use wired

that sounds like awful SLA for a business line @bold karma

there's no failover for a business line?

[bold karma]

The failover is a 5G hotspot basically

I’ve a new ISP that should be hooked up on Wednesday

I’m telling present ISP to take their router and GTFO when they come out Monday

[hollow marlin]

Well what did they do to fix it the other 9 times?

[vapid dune]

probably restart the modem 😄

[vapid dune]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15916/at-last-a-25gbps-consumer-network-switch-qnap-releases-qsw11055t-5port-switch

[little schooner]

@vapid dune but at consumer pricing?

The pricing is stupid. How can it be $100... Almost 4x the price of 1gbps when it's only a 1.5x increase?

I get their the first to market but they should know by now that hardware is not where the money is

[vapid dune]

true

[little schooner]

@vapid dune better than nothing though

Unless nothing provides better value

Which is hardly ever the case

[vapid dune]

I mean unless my computers start coming with 2.5G ethernet

I'm not about to get one lol

[distant wedge]

@icy frigate yeah because Bell never wants you to remove their modem from the network by bridging it. They’ll hate you forever lol

[waxen scroll]

Most people who have a Nas don't really need it imo

Local storage is superior

Sorry not sorry

If you have two computers make a share

Don't need a nas

[ornate jungle]

While you're not wrong, it's far nicer for me to be able to have torrents, Virtual Machines, a Minecraft server, and a media encoder running on a low-power NAS box dedicated to doing just these things. That way I can shut off my power hungry PC at night and leave the other services running 24/7 for friends & family.

Then again, I do sysadmin / web design / server administration as a hobby / side job, so I have a real reason to have a NAS running certain services too.

[delicate drift]

hi guys what are static and dynamic routing?

[ornate jungle]

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/types-of-routing/

[charred meadow]

Also when you decide to put your steam library on a nas then you decide to go to a l'an party and can't fit any games on your 256GB ssd.

[delicate drift]

@ornate jungle nice source thank you

[little schooner]

@ornate jungle I turn off my equipment every night with a lightswitch

much better than leaving it on

[ornate jungle]

OK? I mean, that's a good way to ensure it's using no power at all. Luckily for me I live in a place where Hydro is relatively cheap, at least compared to the rest of the world.

[little schooner]

@ornate jungle I say that because my electric bill is like $55

and thats with the things mostly off

its expensive electricity

I think a big power sucker I have is the 3950x machine that I use

constant 130W

I might just remove its overclock to get back down to that sweet low power usage

[vapid dune]

wtf with a light switch?

55 a month?

I think I'm paying 60/month

[delicate drift]

what are physical and logical topology? physical is the actual connections right like for example Star, Bus, Ring and Mesh topology but how about the logical? I already search and found that the most common example of logical topology is bus and ring but isnt it already an example of physical topology?

[vapid dune]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_topology

[little schooner]

@vapid dune yes. Im trying to find where all this power sucking is coming from

I really think it's the computer and TV

[vapid dune]

o.O

[little schooner]

When off, the TV is producing 23W

[vapid dune]

I'm paying 60/month and my NAS is on 24/7

the UPS says it's drawing ~120W combined with the network gear I have

[little schooner]

@vapid dune at my other site, the bill is more like $106

@vapid dune I'm around 120W as well

[vapid dune]

my desktop is like 140W mostly idle lol

oh subtract 20 for my monitor

since I think my monitor is on the UPS

(it's just a UPS for this desktop)

[little schooner]

I need to cut down on more stuff

Oh I hate that my ups doesn't actually measure power draw if it's not on the Battery protected ports

Like what's the point of the power usage then?

Just for show?

@vapid dune makes me want to switch to a different ups brand

I have cyberpower now

But I'm maxed out with its outlets

[vapid dune]

I'm using cyberpower atm too

I have like 3 UPS

[thorny vector]

@delicate drift Still looking for networking help?

[sinful musk]

Is it a way to connect two antennas directly to have internet over two houses at once but not lose speed?

[icy frigate]

@sinful musk you probably want a mesh network wifi setup, but note that depending how far apart the properties are it may not be feasible & any mesh setup will likely come with a performance hit over multiple nodes