#networking | Linus Tech Tips | Page 193

vapid dune May 30, 2020, 3:45 AM

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it's probably just a cloud product

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I like how freenas doesn't care that you swap the mobo/cpu/sata etc underneath it. still works

south blade May 30, 2020, 3:53 AM

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I'm looking at FreeNAS now, how automated are the plugin installs on there? It has Emby Media server which I've been trying to snag a cheap PC on eBay to install on and that Zoneminder which would remedy these shit programs I'm using right now.

vapid dune May 30, 2020, 3:54 AM

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what ever plugins are in the ecosystem are quite easy to install

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I run a few transmission clients

thorny vector May 30, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Their plugins are alright

vapid dune May 30, 2020, 4:12 AM

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lol after upgrading from a avoton c2550 to an e3-1220 freenas ui feels so much snappier

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not sure what to do with my old board yet. maybe swap over one of my rpi to it

willow storm May 30, 2020, 7:01 AM

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Sorry, quick question, I'm running a NetComm NF18ACV-TP and it doesn't want to let go of ports 80, 8080, and 437 (it won't let me forward them to my Apache box because it uses them for its admin login) is that common? Is there a way I can replace the software running it to something less bossy?

thorny vector May 30, 2020, 8:02 AM

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@willow storm that's fairly common for consumer hardware. Replacing the software depends on if someone has written the firmware for it, and how locked the device itself is

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@willow storm if someone has made firmware for it, check dd-wrt for it

willow storm May 30, 2020, 8:12 AM

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cheers 😄

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I'm confident that I'm the right combination of foolhardy and rtfm-capable to get this right, especially given we're at the point of just buying a different router.

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On that point, I have permission from my ISP to host a site from home, any suggestions on decent fibre-to-the-premisis modem-routers that will allow that level of configuration? or should I just get a modem and set up one of my nix boxes to route?

vast juniper May 30, 2020, 8:16 AM

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What do you mean with "that level of configuration"? Hosting a website only requires the modem/router to allow you to set up port-forwarding, nothing else, unless you want to host a website on the router/modem itself

willow storm May 30, 2020, 8:19 AM

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no, that's exactly what I meant. I took port forwarding of all ports for granted until this piece of junk proved me wrong

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Now I feel kinda burnt

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I understand your reaction though

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I really did think it was standard

vast juniper May 30, 2020, 8:20 AM

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Your box has ports 80, 8080 and 437 exposed on WAN-side?

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I mean, it's irrelevant if they're open on LAN-side

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It's the WAN-side that matters

willow storm May 30, 2020, 8:21 AM

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no, everything's behind the router, I can't expose those ports wan-side because the software on the router won't let me set up the forwarding tables to include those ports

vast juniper May 30, 2020, 8:22 AM

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Wow, what a piece of shite, really

willow storm May 30, 2020, 8:22 AM

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it won't let me direct them to other ports either

vast juniper May 30, 2020, 8:22 AM

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That definitely shouldn't work like that

willow storm May 30, 2020, 8:22 AM

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I know, right?

vast juniper May 30, 2020, 8:22 AM

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Never heard of a modem/router that does things like that

willow storm May 30, 2020, 8:23 AM

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I'm not exactly new when it comes to network configuration

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hence my bewilderment

vast juniper May 30, 2020, 8:23 AM

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Aight. I meant no offense

willow storm May 30, 2020, 8:23 AM

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don't worry, none taken under the circumstances

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it really is that baffling

vast juniper May 30, 2020, 8:24 AM

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I have encountered all sorts of terrible networking-gear in my life, but this is the first case where I hear of a situation like yours! That said, I have no recommendations to give, unfortunately.

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Can the box be configured as a bare bridge? That way you could always use a separate router

willow storm May 30, 2020, 8:25 AM

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yeah that was on the to-do list

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I've got enough *nix boxes on this side of it to spare one as a router

thorny vector May 30, 2020, 8:27 AM

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Does your ISP allow you to use your own modem?

willow storm May 30, 2020, 8:27 AM

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yeah, we're on speaking terms with the owner, he was the one who recommended that modem weirdly enough

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because it is blindingly fast and reliable

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which is sad, it is otherwise a fantastic bit of kit

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so the bridge idea does appeal

vast juniper May 30, 2020, 8:28 AM

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No point in wasting money on another modem, if that one can be configured as a bridge, IMHO

willow storm May 30, 2020, 8:29 AM

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yeah, I'm going to look into whether it can be hooked up that way,

thorny vector May 30, 2020, 8:30 AM

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Fair. The only reason I would prefer not having my that extra hop would be to reduce potential troubleshooting spots in the future, and so my edge router would be the one touching the wan

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@vast juniper also, is your profile picture a kiwi with a Thompson?

vast juniper May 30, 2020, 8:32 AM

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Yes, it indeed is! 😄

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Not many people have understood that one

thorny vector May 30, 2020, 8:33 AM

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Lol, I love it

willow storm May 30, 2020, 8:33 AM

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That's brilliant

vast juniper May 30, 2020, 8:33 AM

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It's also wearing a red Rambo-bandana

thorny vector May 30, 2020, 8:34 AM

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Of course, why wouldn't it?

vast juniper May 30, 2020, 8:36 AM

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Hm, there's a bug with the moderation-bot. I just tried to explain the story behind the icon and it triggered a warning and censored me

thorny vector May 30, 2020, 8:36 AM

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Yeah, it's pretty sensative

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I occasionally set it off with too many capital letters, or repeated characters

vast juniper May 30, 2020, 8:36 AM

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I didn't even say the word it claims I did, so it's not just sensitive, but triggers on non-existing things

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Welp, that definitely puts a damper on my interest in staying here. The fear of random censorship will make me constantly second-guess anything I wish to say

thorny vector May 30, 2020, 8:38 AM

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It's not really that bad

scenic rose May 30, 2020, 2:41 PM

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I'm using two different internet connection (with different isp's) for streaming. I'm using two pc streaming setup and one of my isp has a great upload speed, while other one has a great download speed and lower ping. So normally I connect the internet with the great upload speed to my streaming pc and the other one to my gaming pc. Recently I started to use a program called voicemeeter, it offer voice sharing via lan network so I can use the same mic/headset for my both pc's. I bought a usb to ethernet cable so now I'm able to connect two different internet to the one pc. The problem is I want to use one internet for general internet access and the other one just for lan sharing. Is there any way for me to achieve this?

vapid dune May 30, 2020, 4:11 PM

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anyone use cloudflare's free argo tunnel?

thorny vector May 30, 2020, 4:23 PM

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@scenic rose You can set interface preference in network settings

vapid dune May 30, 2020, 7:40 PM

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looks like the argo free tunnel has bandwidth limits. guess I can try to set up the same kind of tunnel on a VPS. anyone have any software suggestions

vapid dune May 30, 2020, 8:28 PM

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nevermind I settled on using nextcloud with ipv6 and cloudflare. I can just shut down the service when no one wants anything off it

bold relic May 30, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Any UniFi gurus here? I’m looking for some assistance with setting up two WAN DHCP addresses on one physical port on the UniFi Security Gateway 3P, but I’m not sure on how to set this up with the gateway json file. Anyone with some spare time and who’re knowledgeable in this field?
Thanks in advance!

little schooner May 30, 2020, 8:54 PM

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@bold relic kinda wish ubnt could expose more than one ip address in the GUI tools. It seems like an oversight

bold relic May 30, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Tell me about it 😛

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I’ve tried to google my issue for a good hour or two but I’m not making any good progress ...

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I’ve found some guides, but nothing that helps me with my DHCP issue

bold relic May 30, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Here’s the deal, to somewhat further explain:
My ISP offers their customers 5 dynamic WAN IPs per customer, but since I’ve just plugged their single port in my apartment to my USG’s WAN port, I’m really only able to use one of them.
I figured I could setup another interface on that same WAN port that requests another DHCP IP and my WAN side would now be reachable by two different IPs, and I could offer different resources on the LAN side depending on what IP the request is coming from.
From what I understand the setup is possible, but not with the UI as mentioned, but with a certain configuration in a 'config.gateway.json’ file.
I’m consequently looking for assistance with this file to get that functionality.
I realize this offers no performance increase ...

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And I don’t want a switch between the wall and the gateway, which I realize would also be a (more expensive and cumbersome) solution.

vapid dune May 30, 2020, 9:18 PM

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a switch is probably way more straight forward though LOL

bold relic May 30, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Yeah, but I’d need to configure a separate port on the USG to act as a WAN2 port and/or VLAN the internal network and it just gets more cumbersome to maintain.

little schooner May 30, 2020, 10:07 PM

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@bold relic sorry I wish I could help. But I also read that even ubnt support team will not assist with any of this

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It's only a ubnt forums community support thing

slow pivot May 30, 2020, 10:09 PM

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@bold relic yeah I think you are out of luck with the USG

rocky badge May 30, 2020, 10:13 PM

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my only idea is to ask on Ubiquiti forums or Discord

kind sky May 30, 2020, 10:16 PM

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hey had a network question

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so if for example your getting 500 mbs according to provider but only get for example 50 why could that be?

cedar igloo May 30, 2020, 10:17 PM

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is it mbps or mb/s for both?

rocky badge May 30, 2020, 10:18 PM

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500Mbps (ex. Speedtest and ISP ad) would be around 62.5MB/s (ex. Steam downloads)

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500MB/s would be 4000Mbps...aka 4Gbps....holy shit then lol

vapid dune May 30, 2020, 10:20 PM

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lol

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there's usually at least two reasons you're not getting full speed from an ISP assuming accurate readings. your area is too busy and there's not enough capacity, or the server you're accessing can't push it out

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what does a speed test show? try further away locations to see how it changes

rocky badge May 30, 2020, 10:22 PM

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try avoiding Speedtest servers ran by your ISP

kind sky May 30, 2020, 10:25 PM

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hey blob how does that work

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so 1 giga would equal about 100 mbs then?

cedar igloo May 30, 2020, 10:25 PM

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500MB/s would be 4000Mbps...aka 4Gbps....holy shit then lol
@rocky badge good point. I wasn't thinking of real life possible speeds. Just wanting to see if it was the same measurements

rocky badge May 30, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Yeah

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@kind sky /8 or *8

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Bytes vs bits

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8 bits make a byte

kind sky May 30, 2020, 10:26 PM

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ahh so thats how they getcha

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gotta look for their ending

rocky badge May 30, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Yeah

kind sky May 30, 2020, 10:26 PM

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make sure they dont mean bytes probally does say bits

rocky badge May 30, 2020, 10:27 PM

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lowercase b is bits, uppercase B is Bytes

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Most ISPs advertise bits

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Larger number

kind sky May 30, 2020, 10:27 PM

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what if they say Mbps though

rocky badge May 30, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Then that's megabits

kind sky May 30, 2020, 10:27 PM

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same thing right megabits

rocky badge May 30, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Yeah, Gbps, Mbps, Kbps

kind sky May 30, 2020, 10:28 PM

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yea and your saying 100 megabits equals too about 10 megabytes

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so 1k megabits or 1 is 100 megabytes

rocky badge May 30, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Roughly, that's using 10 base

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100Mbps is 12.5MB/s

kind sky May 30, 2020, 10:28 PM

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ah kk really appreciate that info honestly man

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really cool stuff thank you

rocky badge May 30, 2020, 10:28 PM

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👌 np

kind sky May 30, 2020, 10:28 PM

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do you think better modems/routers help or not really?

rocky badge May 30, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Depends

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Find what's the issue

vapid dune May 30, 2020, 10:38 PM

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I mean it could help but it could not either

kind sky May 30, 2020, 10:38 PM

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yea was just asking and curious but really appreciate the insight

vapid dune May 30, 2020, 10:38 PM

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I wouldn't rule anything out as being the problem yet

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just check everything

south blade May 31, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Is there some way to use PFSense to figure out how my phone is accessing the SD card on that WiFi camere I was talking about yesterday?

little schooner May 31, 2020, 3:12 AM

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make a firewall rule with logging enabled for all routed connections from phone to wifi camera

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then check the firewall logs for ports and if it used tcp or udp

south blade May 31, 2020, 3:16 AM

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Hmmm, so From Source camera, to destination Phone? Flipped it either way, not seeing it log anything yet I'm scrolling around recorded videos and days....

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I set it to any protocol, any direction.

thick minnow May 31, 2020, 3:29 AM

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i have a bottleneck

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my computer has gigabit ethernet

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but my router is a joke

vapid dune May 31, 2020, 5:23 AM

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100mbit router?

high sundial May 31, 2020, 8:53 AM

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take away 1 "0" at the end of 100 lol

cedar igloo May 31, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Posted this in the tech chat earlier but no answer, so im posting it here where i know there are people who can help.

Are these disk speeds considered ok or slow for a vm in ESXI? The virtual machines always feel slow when doing anything involving writing data. I know it wont be anywhere near as fast as a desktop running ssds

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if this is better suited for a different channel, please tell me and i will move it

tribal ferry May 31, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Little issue I'm running into here.

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I've been getting subpar internet speeds on my wired internet. 90mbps usually and I pay for 1gpbs.

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Before I go through all of the issues of checking if wires are cat 5e, I wanted to check my computer's network adapter.

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I have this adapter:

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It says it's gigabit speeds, but after checking this thread: https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/only-getting-100mbps-with-gigabit-service.2638944/

Tom's Hardware Forum

Only getting 100mbps with gigabit service

I just got Cincinnati Bell's Fioptics gigabit service installed. But I'm only getting 100mbps up and down. I realize I won't ever get the full 1000, but I should definitely get more than 100.

http://imgur.com/FGVlq6C

This is my modem's page.^^^

I've tried changing the duple...

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it says to check the "speed and duplex" in the advanced section in device manager.

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Speed and duplex says this:

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Only 10 or 100mbps.

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Now I'm confused - is my network adapter rated for 1gbps?

cedar igloo May 31, 2020, 2:43 PM

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mine only goes to 100 too

waxen scroll May 31, 2020, 2:44 PM

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yep. typically 1000 only operates in auto mode. not every system can be configured for always 1000

tribal ferry May 31, 2020, 2:45 PM

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@cedar igloo @waxen scroll Well, what should I do then?

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I don't mean to give you a massive thread but,

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https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1202534-how-to-tell-if-a-cable-is-cat-5-or-cat-5e

Linus Tech Tips

How to tell if a cable is cat 5 or cat 5e?

Let me give the rundown quick of the issue I’m facing. I’ve always not had the greatest network speeds with my computer. I pay for 1gbps down from Xfinity, they are my ISP. Issue is, I would usually only max out at about ~125mbps. To be fair, that is a very good speed and I’m ...

little schooner May 31, 2020, 2:49 PM

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@tribal ferry do you have access to a really long cat 5e or better cable and try plugging your computer directly to router?

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That should rule out if it's the cable or the router or something else

tribal ferry May 31, 2020, 2:50 PM

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I'll try plugging in my laptop.

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Laptop I'm not sure if it's 1gbps

nocturne harness May 31, 2020, 4:52 PM

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make sure they dont mean bytes probally does say bits
@kind sky network speeds are basically always in bits/s

vapid dune May 31, 2020, 4:55 PM

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ddr3 ram is so expensive

little schooner May 31, 2020, 4:56 PM

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@vapid dune need some ddr3 ram?

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I have like 32gb of it

kind sky May 31, 2020, 4:56 PM

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@nocturne harness Yea I appreciate it I mean a lot of the time I thought they were automatically in bytes you know you see the big number for a typical user they think its amazing when its not bad but yea

vapid dune May 31, 2020, 4:56 PM

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lol I was looking to buy some. been looking on amazon and ebay @little schooner

little schooner May 31, 2020, 4:56 PM

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@vapid dune what prices have you seen so far

vapid dune May 31, 2020, 4:57 PM

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for 4x8GB probably ~160 CAD which might need shipping

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that's more than I spent on the motherboard + cpu lol

nocturne harness May 31, 2020, 4:58 PM

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network speed is in bits because that's what the hardware transmits

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there's no concept of bytes in networking

vapid dune May 31, 2020, 4:58 PM

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packets are in bytes

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you get nicer numbers if you use bytes ;p

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network gear is sometimes rated in PPS

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like my ERL advertises 1Mpps

little schooner May 31, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Yeah that's true

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@vapid dune oh I only ship in usa

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But yeah 160 cad expensive for old ram

vapid dune May 31, 2020, 5:01 PM

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ah yeah, that's why I'm shopping around. ebay tends to kill me on shipping a bit lol

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it's at least 20-30 to ship it by my estimate

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trying to avoid mystery ram from china

nocturne harness May 31, 2020, 5:03 PM

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packets are not network layer 😛

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oops

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sorry

little schooner May 31, 2020, 5:04 PM

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What do you mean, that is layer 3

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Packets

nocturne harness May 31, 2020, 5:04 PM

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packets /are/ network layer

little schooner May 31, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Ahh

nocturne harness May 31, 2020, 5:04 PM

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everything below the network later has no concept of packets

little schooner May 31, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Yes. Data link would be the frames

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And then physical

nocturne harness May 31, 2020, 5:05 PM

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yeah frames and physical

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the determining factor in networks is the transport and physical, the latter just being some binary (bit) representation of whatever it's transporting

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the whole PPS thing is just the processing speed of the routing hardware

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if you look at the RFCs for stuff like ethernet frames you'll see they are specified as a certain number of octets

little schooner May 31, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Is there like a website that makes a general summary of the long rfc documents?

nocturne harness May 31, 2020, 5:11 PM

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and then when it goes to the physical layer it gets converted into 8b/10b encoding (for example)

little schooner May 31, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Not saying they are bad as they are but for other people to get the idea fast

nocturne harness May 31, 2020, 5:12 PM

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oh hmmm

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wikipedia? lol

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(8b/10b encoding is 8 bit words repesenting 10 bit symbols)

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Hence why we don't use bytes in network, it starts getting odd

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because for gigabit ethernet for example, we transmit 125 MBd/lane, there are 4 lanes in each direction, so we get 500 MBd/second per direction

little schooner May 31, 2020, 5:15 PM

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I think I got a mosquito byte

thick minnow May 31, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Does anybody here use OpenWRT?

vapid dune May 31, 2020, 5:29 PM

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@little schooner curious what kind of ram are you selling? non-ecc?

little schooner May 31, 2020, 5:34 PM

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It's G.skill F3-1600C9D-16GXM sticks

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So they are 8GB each

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G.SKILL F3-1600C9D-16GXM Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007CCV1TI/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_pR-0EbGDVW88A

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That

vapid dune May 31, 2020, 5:36 PM

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ah

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I see a lot of ECC RDIMM

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how much were you hoping to sell 2 kits for anyhow?

little schooner May 31, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Probably like $115

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Oh srry

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For 2 probably 60

vapid dune May 31, 2020, 5:40 PM

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oh lol 160 cad is ~120 usd

last crest May 31, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Is there a way to increase upload speed without getting a better plan?

little schooner May 31, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Oh dang5

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@vapid dune yeah that pricey

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For 2

vapid dune May 31, 2020, 5:43 PM

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no no for 4 sticks of 8gb

little schooner May 31, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Oh

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Yeah I just try to see what they go for on ebay

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@vapid dune shipping to Australia for example was like 20 bucks for a Volta cable

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I think Canada should be cheaper

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I'd rather have the customs forms already pre-made within the label I buy

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I don't like filling it out at the office especially now

vapid dune May 31, 2020, 6:01 PM

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ah yeah

nocturne harness May 31, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Is there a way to increase upload speed without getting a better plan?
@last crest not really

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if you're getting slow speeds because of your local network, then I guess maybe?

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but if you're getting the full speed of your plan then no

last crest May 31, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Ok

burnt oasis May 31, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Anyone order any ubiquiti gear recently? curious what the turn-around has been

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with the supply chain being hurt by the covid

vapid dune May 31, 2020, 9:31 PM

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direct or other?

burnt oasis May 31, 2020, 9:32 PM

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I'm not sure where my supplier orders from -- i'd assume direct

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its a purchase covered by eRate so I can't place it until July 1 😦 Hoping the supply chain has been replenished by then so I can get the gear installed without people in the building.

little schooner May 31, 2020, 9:39 PM

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I ordered mine from Amazon and it was about a 2 week wait

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@burnt oasis

burnt oasis May 31, 2020, 9:39 PM

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ok cool. I'm phasing out some 5406 switches. Ordering 12 of the gen2 48 ports on july 1.

rocky badge May 31, 2020, 9:54 PM

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@burnt oasis it's been decent, depends on where you live and where you ship to

hollow marlin May 31, 2020, 10:31 PM

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@burnt oasis what's reasoning behind replacing Aruba with Ubi?

burnt oasis May 31, 2020, 10:33 PM

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this is pre-aruba HP gear. Main reason is because all of our AP's and cameras are ubiquiti. I'm not really replacing per say -- i'm just shifting the load. Back in the olden-days they ran 8 or so drops per room, not necessary anymore. So i'm shifting the AP's, cameras and phones to ubiquiti and leaving everything else on the HP gear until it fails.

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my core switch will remain Hp/Aruba, I have a brand new 5406zl aruba branded switch I haven't deployed yet. My predecessor didn't make a true core, but instead used a 5412zl to pick up core duties and serve that chunk of the building. So the 5406zl aruba branded will only have the 10G fiber cards going forward and will be a true core.

jaunty talon Jun 1, 2020, 2:13 PM

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@burnt oasis "true core" is such a tricky wording :) what's true core in your case? :)

little schooner Jun 1, 2020, 2:25 PM

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@jaunty talon a true core to me is one that doesn't suffer udp loss the way my switch does

burnt oasis Jun 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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To me a core is a layer 3 switch that all other switch closets/locations come back to. ISP > firewall > core > closets

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MDF

jaunty talon Jun 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Cool! :)

nocturne harness Jun 1, 2020, 2:49 PM

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I'd argue a core switch is basically any switch that can do full line rate on all it's ports

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i.e. it has enough switching fabric capacity to handle full load

jaunty talon Jun 1, 2020, 2:49 PM

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But that can be a switch in the closet then!

nocturne harness Jun 1, 2020, 2:50 PM

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yep, there's nothing specifically magical about a core switch

jaunty talon Jun 1, 2020, 2:50 PM

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But in the wording of core, it's not very often used for closet switches! :)

nocturne harness Jun 1, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Normally a core would also have some level of redundancies (PSU, two in-depended ASICs, etc)

jaunty talon Jun 1, 2020, 2:51 PM

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For me core is somewhat traditional, and is in a layout where you have only L3 in core and then do L2 at distribution / access layer!

nocturne harness Jun 1, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Fair enough

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Most of the work I've done around networks recently have been in a DC setting

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so there's no closets 😉

hollow marlin Jun 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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Well in DC the core would be synonymous with the spine

jaunty talon Jun 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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in dc's today there is similar tho, but spine would be "core" and leaf is distribution/access :)

nocturne harness Jun 1, 2020, 2:53 PM

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yeah, core, spine

burnt oasis Jun 1, 2020, 2:53 PM

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In my case my "core/MDF", is in one building where my fiber comes in from my ISP, and all of the fiber comes in from the outlying buildings.

nocturne harness Jun 1, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Generally the stuff deployed as those were just low-latency high-throughput and redundant devices

jaunty talon Jun 1, 2020, 2:53 PM

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But mostly for me core is something you can reboot in your network without impact since you only do L3 protocols with redundancy :)

nocturne harness Jun 1, 2020, 2:54 PM

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I was a bit removed though since I was working on an SRE team though

burnt oasis Jun 1, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Redundancy in my environment is hard to pull off -- though a good chunk of my network will have a full loop of fiber in the next couple of months so if I had a break in a fiber I could theoretically send it the other direction and minimize outages.

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I work in a school - we can't afford redundancy in most cases. I usually have enough old hardware laying around where I can make something magical happen if we had a switch go out though.

hollow marlin Jun 1, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Please use ERPS and not STP with rings

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It will save you a lot of headaches

burnt oasis Jun 1, 2020, 2:56 PM

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A ring for me would be manual, i'd have to run down and swap some fiber to make it go the other way. Low-tech-half-ass, the public education way.

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The only reason i'll have the ability to do that is we are adding some FEMA shelters and my path to the new closet in those fema shelters was easier to have them bury conduit instead of having to run fiber all the way around to the new addition.

nocturne harness Jun 1, 2020, 2:58 PM

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Ohhh fair, I was on an SRE team for a financial software service provider--needless to say we had carte blanche for infra

hollow marlin Jun 1, 2020, 2:59 PM

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Recovery should never be physical movement. If the fiber is that close nearby what is stopping configuration?

burnt oasis Jun 1, 2020, 2:59 PM

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knowledge, lack of hardware/licenses, to name a few.

jaunty talon Jun 1, 2020, 3:00 PM

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also depends on isp and their configuration :)

burnt oasis Jun 1, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Also that loop would only pick up part of the building anyways. Basically we have three schools all physically connected with hallways with the "core" in the center. So currently I have fiber going from the center building to the far end of the north building, we are adding onto the south side of that north building, so my cable path is shortened and underground. Allowing me to connect back to the center from the far end north. So the manual way would be for me to walk 200' and swap some plugs. I'm lazy, but not THAT lazy 😄

little schooner Jun 1, 2020, 4:13 PM

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@jaunty talon I was just joking

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But core switch in Cisco language meant backbone, high speed switching fabric that is redundantly connected iirc

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I would like a layer 3 switch but not the ones that can't do full router functions

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Like the edgeswitch doesn't let you make complex ip acls

burnt oasis Jun 1, 2020, 4:44 PM

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I’m not even sure what all the Aruba 5406zl can do. I probably don’t have the license for it if it supports it. We just do basic vlans.

hollow marlin Jun 1, 2020, 4:51 PM

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@little schooner For core you want full L3 handling of traffic. This doesnt exclude all the one offs of say just L2 for metro-e or say a line card used for switching.

little schooner Jun 1, 2020, 7:03 PM

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@hollow marlin what brand offers full L3? Mikrotik for cheap?

hollow marlin Jun 1, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Mikrotik does have L3 and as long as fastpath is used its fine. The moment you break it thought performance craps the bed

ruby ravine Jun 1, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Eh. Haven’t used acls but some edge routers have layer 2 hw-backed switching: https://www.ui.com/edgemax/edgerouter-12/ in addition to the normal l3 stuff.

Ubiquiti - EdgeRouter™ 12

burnt oasis Jun 1, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Thoughts on fortigate anyone? I have a 600D at work. I probably barely touch the surface of what it’s capable of

wild seal Jun 1, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Anyone have an idea what could be causing this. I am losing connection to one of my servers randomly daily now. My modem completely drops the ip and wont allow me to connect to it or ping it until I reboot the gateway super strange

cedar igloo Jun 1, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Thoughts on fortigate anyone? I have a 600D at work. I probably barely touch the surface of what it’s capable of
@burnt oasis I know this info probably isnt helpful, but never used or configured myself, however i know at my work, they swear by fortigate, and install/configure for almost every client.

burnt oasis Jun 1, 2020, 9:53 PM

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It was a pain to setup. First time I ever had to have a contractor come help me. Shitty part is I was so close, I just had one thing keeping it from working.

cedar igloo Jun 1, 2020, 9:57 PM

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the support is meant to be one of the best

pearl patio Jun 1, 2020, 11:05 PM

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guys can you help me finding a new lan switch, possibly with at least 8 ports and not too expensive?

nocturne harness Jun 1, 2020, 11:06 PM

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just google netgear unmanged 8 port

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and find a store in your region that sells them

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they should be relatively cheap (like $30 CAD)

pearl patio Jun 1, 2020, 11:06 PM

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thank you very much

nocturne harness Jun 1, 2020, 11:07 PM

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NW 🙂

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oh

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make sure it's a gigabit ethernet switch **

pearl patio Jun 1, 2020, 11:07 PM

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yup

nocturne harness Jun 1, 2020, 11:07 PM

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they're all pretty similar at that price point, I would just find the one with the best price/rating

pearl patio Jun 1, 2020, 11:10 PM

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this should get the work done

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vapid dune Jun 1, 2020, 11:10 PM

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for another 10 bucks you can usually get some vlans

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maybe 20 bucks

pearl patio Jun 1, 2020, 11:10 PM

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idk what they are

vapid dune Jun 1, 2020, 11:11 PM

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oh then you probably don't need it lol.

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https://www.amazon.ca/TP-Link-TL-SG108-1000Mbps-déconomie-dénergie/dp/B00A121WN6/
vs
https://www.amazon.ca/TP-Link-Ethernet-Unmanaged-Replacement-TL-SG108E/dp/B00K4DS5KU/

pearl patio Jun 1, 2020, 11:11 PM

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can you explain it lol, im new to networking in general

nocturne harness Jun 1, 2020, 11:12 PM

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They're a way to virtually segregate devices on your network

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I don't think it's something you really need

pearl patio Jun 1, 2020, 11:18 PM

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mh i reading somethings about it and it's an interesting thing

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i wont be using it for now

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but can be useful

nocturne harness Jun 1, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Yeah, if you want something just for now get a cheap TP Link or Netgear unmanaged switch

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and then in the future you can buy more fun gear when you learn more 😉

pearl patio Jun 1, 2020, 11:19 PM

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😁

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and i have another doubt/curiosity about a server not showing up in the network

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it's a dell poweredge 2900 iii

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i tried to use win server 2008 r2 and 2012 but it still wont show up on the network

uncut spruce Jun 1, 2020, 11:24 PM

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have you configured static ip ?

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do you have a DHCP activated on your router ?

pearl patio Jun 1, 2020, 11:24 PM

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i got it configured back then with the old modem

uncut spruce Jun 1, 2020, 11:25 PM

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you don't have an issue with the network card driver ?

pearl patio Jun 1, 2020, 11:26 PM

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with other devices no

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bc it goes online

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if i open google it works

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fun fact i tried all the 4 1gb lan ports on the server

uncut spruce Jun 1, 2020, 11:26 PM

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I think you might need to disable "idle state" on the machine

pearl patio Jun 1, 2020, 11:27 PM

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oh

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could it be a bios option?

uncut spruce Jun 1, 2020, 11:27 PM

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I think it on windows I will check really quick on my vm

pearl patio Jun 1, 2020, 11:27 PM

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thx

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idk what it is but when i boot it up it shows a "netmask"

rocky badge Jun 1, 2020, 11:30 PM

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@clear igloo oof https://blob.rocks/JB6JV76moZ.png

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I broke it

uncut spruce Jun 1, 2020, 11:31 PM

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F

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idk what it is but when i boot it up it shows a "netmask"
@pearl patio the network's netmask or something else ?

pearl patio Jun 1, 2020, 11:35 PM

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network

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255.255.255

uncut spruce Jun 1, 2020, 11:36 PM

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for your "offline server problem" try this

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uncheck allow to turn off this device

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for your network card

pearl patio Jun 1, 2020, 11:37 PM

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when i can i'll try it

uncut spruce Jun 1, 2020, 11:38 PM

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network
@pearl patio I think you let in the bios the option to launch windows using PXE Boot like the machine is given an IP then It can boot up using another server

pearl patio Jun 1, 2020, 11:41 PM

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i hope it work, im excited to see if 15k rpm sas hdd is fast lol

uncut spruce Jun 1, 2020, 11:41 PM

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it is indeed but not as fast as ssd

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so you're using the dell as a nas ?

pearl patio Jun 1, 2020, 11:42 PM

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kinda

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i want to fix this issue so i can use it as nas for files and a streaming server for films or tv shows

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now that i think about it one time i used unraid

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and i had to acces to it seaching the ip on google

uncut spruce Jun 1, 2020, 11:44 PM

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yup that indeed interesting

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after if you want to dive into advanced stuff, you can replace the server's ip with a local domain that you can create easily on your w server

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something like mynas.local

pearl patio Jun 1, 2020, 11:46 PM

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ill definetly do it

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i want to know more about networking😄

uncut spruce Jun 1, 2020, 11:48 PM

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it's a vast but still a great domain to explore

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keep searching and don't give up on something difficult that's how you can learn and master stuff

raw timber Jun 1, 2020, 11:50 PM

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What router do you recommend that better then Comcast all in one for 2 gamer and there phone and one office pc and printer

uncut spruce Jun 1, 2020, 11:58 PM

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depend on your budget tbh

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Something they don't lag when one person upload

vapid dune Jun 2, 2020, 12:16 AM

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I'm using 5400 rpm disks in my NAS

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it's not really slow I'd say

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each hard drive is like ~100MBps. once you put it into raid your network will become the bottleneck

little schooner Jun 2, 2020, 4:52 AM

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@hollow marlin it says in fastpath documentation that you can't have any firewall rules configured for it to work

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thats disheartening

thick minnow Jun 2, 2020, 6:58 AM

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@raw timber what would your budget be for that router.
And what could also cause the issue is your speed from your ISP (internet service provider). So do you know which speeds you get from your ISP?

jaunty talon Jun 2, 2020, 7:40 AM

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@raw timber also important to know is that getting a new router will not likely solve your problem if you still need to have the ISP's modem/CPE infront of the router. this since the modem could very likely be the problem (poor buffers etc).

waxen scroll Jun 2, 2020, 9:28 AM

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LMFAO Cisco cancelled Cisco live for today... “In light of all we see going on in the United States and around the world, including feedback from some of you and our customers, we don’t believe the time is right to host an event in the middle of this tragic moment in our history. Our hope is that we can all use this time to process, heal and define the actions we will take to make progress towards a better, more inclusive world.”

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I feel like they knew it was going to be bad so they killed it

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No reason to cancel a virtual event

cedar igloo Jun 2, 2020, 9:31 AM

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companies are cancelling lots of events going on in the next few weeks. PS5 release, COD updates etc

waxen scroll Jun 2, 2020, 9:32 AM

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monkaS

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It's all virtue signaling. They don't care. They want the points

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These decisions are profit driven some how I'm sure

cedar igloo Jun 2, 2020, 9:38 AM

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probably through advertising and sharing posts. while the whole thing is going on in america, thats all over twitter and other socials. theres no room for other companies' posts to be shared

waxen scroll Jun 2, 2020, 9:38 AM

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Makes sense

thorny vector Jun 2, 2020, 10:59 AM

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I don't doubt the virtue signalling at all for some, but I dunno. Seems MORE for a lot of em.

waxen scroll Jun 2, 2020, 12:08 PM

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@clear igloo thots?

clear igloo Jun 2, 2020, 12:08 PM

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Meh

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 12:14 PM

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@little schooner Fasttrack handles firewall rules, just an extension of Fastpath. You know, all super clear in their documentation 🙃

little schooner Jun 2, 2020, 12:33 PM

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@hollow marlin ouch. They have to step up their doc writing then

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@waxen scroll yesterday I was up until 1:30am working on a Logic Gate assignment, designing the diagram based on output expressions. Since when does a network technician use this stuff?

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It's the stuff with AND, OR, NOT and NAND gates

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Annoying to do when I have like 29372722 different things to do

clear igloo Jun 2, 2020, 12:40 PM

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@little schooner Only 29372722 things to do?

waxen scroll Jun 2, 2020, 12:51 PM

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they dont

little schooner Jun 2, 2020, 1:02 PM

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@clear igloo I was going to use 65535 instead to use it as a joke

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But too late

clear igloo Jun 2, 2020, 1:02 PM

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😛

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 1:26 PM

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@jaunty talon i was told the isssue was other router not leave room for when you dowload data you computer have to send a small amout back ohter rotuer let some upload to max and not leave any room

little schooner Jun 2, 2020, 1:51 PM

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@waxen scroll sorry for the lack of context, but yes, my school does self host their webex. Today it says that the webex site is unavailable for my classes

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well... no lecture unless they can get that fixed up today

waxen scroll Jun 2, 2020, 1:52 PM

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i hate self hosted webex

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so many quality issues

jaunty talon Jun 2, 2020, 2:41 PM

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@raw timber sorry, not really understanding what you're saying now. :/

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 2:43 PM

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is most router are not smart we had the same issue with the isp at my parent home we just put a pfsence router set up correct and with a limit on the speed to right below the max of the isp no more issue

jaunty talon Jun 2, 2020, 2:45 PM

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depends on issue I guess. don't really see how limiting your connection under a specific speed would solve the issue? unless your problem is that it lags when you max out your internet connection in which the problem will continue no matter what limitation you put if you reach it

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 2:49 PM

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it work thre so many vidoe about people say ot put the limt t osovle the issue is upload get max out and dont leave any room for the computer to say i got the data you can send more

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Limiting the upload serves no purpose unless you are doing per client or QoS

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 2:53 PM

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it work

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXqExAALzR8

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that the type of limt i am talkg about

jaunty talon Jun 2, 2020, 2:54 PM

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but that indeed is related to buffers =)

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 2:54 PM

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I hate when people claim you can fixed buffer bloat at home

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 2:55 PM

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but it work

nocturne harness Jun 2, 2020, 2:56 PM

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wtf is buffer bloat

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 2:57 PM

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@hollow marlin why do you say it dont work we use to get the issue all the time now we dont all because it go to 300 not 309 or 357

nocturne harness Jun 2, 2020, 2:57 PM

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I tried reading the website about it and none of it makes any sense

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 2:57 PM

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iqrouter explan it the best it is clien seend too much data for the small isp pipe

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and stuff get drop

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grand i dont liek them but there explain make sence

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 2:58 PM

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@nocturne harness Buffer bloat is when egress buffers are too large and latency increases, somtimes to the point TCP reports lost ACK

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Typically with QoS and people who dont know how and when to configure it add large queue sizes

nocturne harness Jun 2, 2020, 2:59 PM

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interesting

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Not sure why normal TCP congestion control wouldn't solve the issue

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but 🤷‍♂️

jaunty talon Jun 2, 2020, 2:59 PM

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This is very typical in cheap modems/cpe's from ISP's

shrewd pier Jun 2, 2020, 2:59 PM

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"Some communications equipment manufacturers designed unnecessarily large buffers into some of their network products." KEKW

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 3:00 PM

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This is not in the endpoint, this is in the transport

nocturne harness Jun 2, 2020, 3:00 PM

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I don't get your point?

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Congestion control works for any part of the path from server to client

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Buffer bloat is in the transport...not the customer router, not the modem

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Congestion control handles this as you said

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 3:03 PM

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it better then nonthnk

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and both isp have the issue so it best i can do

nocturne harness Jun 2, 2020, 3:09 PM

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wow, I think I've found the first wrong technical description of something on Wikipedia

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To TCP, a congested link can appear to be operating normally as the buffer fills. The TCP algorithm is unaware the link is congested and does not start to take corrective action until the buffer finally overflows and packets are dropped.

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TCP uses RTT in calculating timeouts, so congested networks would quickly violate the timeout

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Timeout = Estimated RTT + 4 * Deviation RTT

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and with Tahoe and Reno a timeout results in a new slow start

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Keep in mind none of this is impacted by the network between server and client

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there's no way for the network to obfuscate congestion to TCP

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since it tracks it exclusively on either end

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 3:17 PM

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i am still confue it wokr

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we use to get lock up oftne when some uplaod a huge file while we use thecomputer live stream have issue now we dont

nocturne harness Jun 2, 2020, 3:19 PM

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even simple QOS would probably have solved the issue

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now that I think about it you probably aren't using TCP for both, otherwise it could never happen

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TCP connections inherently equally share network links due to magic

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 3:21 PM

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That description is correct, they are referring to the time it takes until the buffer fills and drops the packet the far end has already thought it was lost and started slow start

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TCP connection sometime will share nicely but sometimes will be subject to TCP syncronization. Also with Qbic, Quic, BBR....standard TCP algorithms can be torn apart

nocturne harness Jun 2, 2020, 3:23 PM

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on a normal network the RTT should be low enough that this is not a problem, because the timeout should be low that timeout occurs before the local buffer is filled

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unlesss you have bad behaving local clients, I can't imagine how it would happen normally

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 3:24 PM

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With buffer bloat your buffers can exceed a few 100ms

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This is due again to incorrect QoS setup

nocturne harness Jun 2, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Agreed, nothing a well setup QoS couldn't solve

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Queue gets full so they turn up the queue and all of a sudden you have traffic is 1s latency

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QoS is largely useless, as most people dont understand when and when not to use it

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Its not needed anymore in 99% of use cases

nocturne harness Jun 2, 2020, 3:26 PM

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TCP connection sometime will share nicely but sometimes will be subject to TCP syncronization. Also with Qbic, Quic, BBR....standard TCP algorithms can be torn apart
@hollow marlin this is the only thing I don't know about

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 3:26 PM

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but what in the video wokr

nocturne harness Jun 2, 2020, 3:27 PM

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form my understanding of tahoe and reno, I can't see how they would not reach an equilibrium

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 3:29 PM

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what would

nocturne harness Jun 2, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Multiple TCP connections

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tahoe and reno are two of the protocols governing how TCP connections transmit data

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 3:47 PM

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tahoe is extinct, reno is only used by Netflix as they modded the hell out of it. Cubic is the main TCP used today

nocturne harness Jun 2, 2020, 3:51 PM

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Ahh, interesting

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didn't realize

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 3:52 PM

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Yeah reno is trash but Netflix has such a good job at making it work very well

nocturne harness Jun 2, 2020, 3:52 PM

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We only talked about the implementation of tahoe and reno in my networks course--probably because they're simpler to implement

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Have you heard about Elastic-TCP

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 3:53 PM

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Take some time to look at BBR from google. Will load balance with other BBR streams and will absolutely crush Cubic/reno

nocturne harness Jun 2, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Yeah I was just reading up on BBR

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I like how Google claims it's fair with Cubic but most other researchers says it's unfair

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tbh I'm excited for more IPv6 prevelance

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Its a civil war. I am all for full BBR because it eliminates dirty traffic (un-necessary re-transmission) which makes congestions worse

nocturne harness Jun 2, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Hopefully it'll give ground for way better CC

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Especially with ECN

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 4:04 PM

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ECN is used in v4 as well but its only used with QoS

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 4:16 PM

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i am still confuse on how this relate to my issue

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 4:18 PM

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It was more with a discussion on buffer bloat really

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If cutting your upload worked, I have no answer as of why

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 4:20 PM

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why doint you know why i think it is 2 difer issue i think the issue is a lot of isp sofware limit i have 300/300 but realy they set it as 309 but it cause isse

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becaser it is not as stable at that extra speed

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 4:22 PM

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There will typically be a burst allowance for connections whenthere is not much traffic over all.

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 4:23 PM

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some isp i thinnk comcaast and some people hate it

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it can be long enouth that speed test look great

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but you go dowload a file and it not very good

wild seal Jun 2, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Does anybody have any clue whats going on. I have a server that I connect to everyday via ssh. Everyday since last week it has been completely dropping out connection to it. Only for me this is happening to once I restart my modem I can connect to it again. I have never seen this before

ebon wasp Jun 2, 2020, 4:28 PM

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easiest guess is that your modem/router can't maintain the connection for any reason

wild seal Jun 2, 2020, 4:29 PM

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ebon wasp Jun 2, 2020, 4:29 PM

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is 10.0.0.1 the router or your pc?

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Sorry for the stupid question, haven't used tracert in a while

wild seal Jun 2, 2020, 4:31 PM

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my gateway

ebon wasp Jun 2, 2020, 4:31 PM

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basically your router states it can't connect with that protocol

wild seal Jun 2, 2020, 4:31 PM

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yea I mean the ip is completely unreachable

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until I restart it

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then its good for about 12 hours

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very odd

ebon wasp Jun 2, 2020, 4:31 PM

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the server is on the same network?

wild seal Jun 2, 2020, 4:32 PM

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no

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its in a datacenter which I have other servers as well this is the only one this happens to

ebon wasp Jun 2, 2020, 4:33 PM

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so the network diagram for the connection is: pc -> router -> internet -> DC router -> server

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 4:34 PM

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who make the router sound like my issue a long time ago it was old router

wild seal Jun 2, 2020, 4:34 PM

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shitcast

ebon wasp Jun 2, 2020, 4:34 PM

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^ that. It could be a problem with your router or the DC router

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or anything in between

wild seal Jun 2, 2020, 4:35 PM

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yea and its only happening to me other people no issues to this server

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 4:35 PM

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i say get a new rotuer

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router

wild seal Jun 2, 2020, 4:35 PM

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time to get rid of this comcast modem anyway

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 4:36 PM

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is it all in one care to share image or modle of it

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i recoamnd go to this site https://approvedmodemlist.com/

Approved Modem List

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hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 4:44 PM

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@wild seal that's a protocol problem. Nothing to do with Comcast

wild seal Jun 2, 2020, 4:46 PM

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yea?

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 4:46 PM

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The response is from the router to the local device.

wild seal Jun 2, 2020, 4:46 PM

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what is weird is the traceroute from the gateway itself looks ok

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but no devices on the network can hit that ip

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 4:47 PM

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What is the subnet on the server

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Ifconfig/ipconfig

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 4:47 PM

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did you even check to see if the modem is on the list

wild seal Jun 2, 2020, 4:47 PM

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pretty sure its a /31

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 4:47 PM

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That's why...well mostly if on the same network

wild seal Jun 2, 2020, 4:48 PM

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matt its approved by them its literally the modem they lease to you ^^

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 4:48 PM

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?

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is it on the list

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they dont lease good one some time

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 4:49 PM

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@wild seal When you try pinging the IP from a PC what response do you get

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 4:50 PM

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@wild seal look up on google load of people say the modem comcast lease to you is trash

wild seal Jun 2, 2020, 4:50 PM

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oh I know its trash

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Are there any firewall rules? Are multiple networks involved here?

wild seal Jun 2, 2020, 4:52 PM

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So I have google nest wifi points but im hardwired right to the modem / router

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So Modem/Router is all in one then a google nest hub and im hardwired to the modem/router

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no firewall rules

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Is the server also directly off the modem or on the nest?

wild seal Jun 2, 2020, 4:53 PM

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server is not located here but it is directly off a modem not behind a firewall

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Wait. So do you have any tunnel setup or just a server plugged in on some modem remotely and you are plugged into your modem? Because without a tunnel that will not work

wild seal Jun 2, 2020, 4:55 PM

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not sure exactly on the server setup since its at a colo but no tunnel just public ip connecting to

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I guess I can try connecting to it via local ip when I vpn in

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and see if that works

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 4:55 PM

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10.x.x.x would be local so you'll need your VPN.

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Outside a VPN you'll need the public.

wild seal Jun 2, 2020, 4:56 PM

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so the 10.0.0.1 is the reply im getting when i ping the public

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Yeah, youre getting a response from an 10.0.0.1 within Comcast Network which they have locked down

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That's why you are getting the protocol denied message

wild seal Jun 2, 2020, 4:57 PM

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I mean I literally restart my modem and i can connect again

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Without a tunnel or VPN setup within the modem I don't see how that's possible

wild seal Jun 2, 2020, 4:58 PM

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yea I mean doesnt make much sense has to be something with the modem

hollow marlin Jun 2, 2020, 5:09 PM

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I don't think it has anything to do with the modem. If you are plugged in directly to the modem either you have a public IP or you don't, VPN cache is where the 10.x response is from and you should be connecting to 10.0.0.2 over the VPN only

wild seal Jun 2, 2020, 5:26 PM

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what do you know I restart the modem and I can hit the server again ><

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 5:31 PM

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did you talk to who host the sever

wild seal Jun 2, 2020, 5:41 PM

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yea they want more info just weird that it only happens to me

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ill have to dig a little deper

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deeper*

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thanks for the help guys

raw timber Jun 2, 2020, 5:47 PM

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yeah i run in to it too people say it must be me since it only hapen to me

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my dad blame usless people updat for no reason just becaer it new

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and look bestter

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better

vapid dune Jun 3, 2020, 1:32 AM

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memtest takes forever. but IPMI to mount the iso is so awesome

little schooner Jun 3, 2020, 1:43 AM

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@vapid dune yes, especially when that function is very stable

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No nonsense working

vapid dune Jun 3, 2020, 2:22 AM

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yeah, pretty happy with it

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it's the one thing that bothers me with the raspeberry pi

vapid dune Jun 3, 2020, 3:12 AM

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a bit over kill but finally finished testing 1 round of all 32GB memory

raw verge Jun 3, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Been a while since i’ve been here but i’ve run into a problem that i can’t figure out for the life of me, been troubleshooting all day.

I pay for gigabit from Xfinity. Wired directly to the network I get exactly that for download. i use pfSense as my router with vlans to a unifi switch and 3 UAP-AC-Lites. wireless speeds is what is a thing to make me flip, I get a max of 150 down no matter what i try and change. I have 2 SSID’s. Guest and Client. Does anyone know what the issue is?

fervent brook Jun 3, 2020, 3:52 PM

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torn off guest?

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do speed tests at each interface

raw verge Jun 3, 2020, 3:58 PM

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tried it, same result

fervent brook Jun 3, 2020, 4:00 PM

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are all the interfaces gb?

raw verge Jun 3, 2020, 4:01 PM

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Yep

fervent brook Jun 3, 2020, 4:03 PM

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have you tried a speed test within your network?

raw verge Jun 3, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Tried a linksys router in ap mode and got 450Mbps down and wired to my laptop and got 1.2Gbps down

fervent brook Jun 3, 2020, 4:06 PM

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so. what you're saying is a linksys router is a better AP than UAP

raw verge Jun 3, 2020, 4:06 PM

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in my current case, apparently so and i don't like it

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What make it weird is this just started happening. my speeds used to be perfect

hollow marlin Jun 3, 2020, 4:53 PM

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@raw verge Well what devices are connected? If a single device connects at N it will force all other devices to use that band

raw verge Jun 3, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Looking at the unifi app, I have 5 devices connected. All of which say 5.0Ghz in green

hollow marlin Jun 3, 2020, 5:07 PM

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@raw verge Are they connected N or AC though?

vapid dune Jun 3, 2020, 5:29 PM

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150 isn't abnormal is it

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how far away are you from the ap

hollow marlin Jun 3, 2020, 5:40 PM

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He said with another AP gets 450 while 150 is typical with N band. Im 100% positive a device is connecting with N

vapid dune Jun 3, 2020, 5:42 PM

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I mean I stand in front of my AP sometimes and it doesn't get super crazy speeds on my phone

raw verge Jun 3, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Did what i didn't want to do and factory reset them and readopted to the controller. they seem to be preforming significantly better at about 350Mbps. thonk2

vapid dune Jun 3, 2020, 5:45 PM

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magic

raw verge Jun 3, 2020, 5:48 PM

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love technology sometimes

little schooner Jun 3, 2020, 7:05 PM

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@raw verge i love it when it just works

waxen scroll Jun 3, 2020, 8:29 PM

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xeon, baby, hi

vapid dune Jun 3, 2020, 10:04 PM

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lol that moment when you realize you were trying to login to the wrong ssh server the whole time

south blade Jun 3, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Hmmm, I just got the UniFi AP I ordered, but needing some help on the PFSense side to hook it up. I have a 4 port NIC with port 1 setup as WAN, port 2 as LAN, and 3-4 as OPT1 and OPT2. I have the AP hooked up to OPT1, am I supposed to bridge it with LAN or something? I don't plan on keeping the TP-Link router hooked up once I have this set up, but for now I am.

vapid dune Jun 3, 2020, 11:26 PM

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on an ERL I just run one port to a switch first and plug stuff into that

south blade Jun 3, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Honestly I don't have the best locations for this hardware in the house for now, hopefully building on my property soon, so I try to limit how much hardware I'm adding in the dining room! xD

fervent brook Jun 3, 2020, 11:37 PM

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make the ap your table decoration

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrepiece

Centrepiece

A centrepiece or centerpiece is an important item of a display, usually of a table setting. Centrepieces help set the theme of the decorations and bring extra decorations to the room. A centrepiece also refers to any central or important object in a collection of items.Traditi...

nocturne harness Jun 3, 2020, 11:41 PM

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lol somehow I locked myself out of my GCP VPN VM

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I mean, it's running just fine but I can't SSH in 😆

rocky badge Jun 3, 2020, 11:44 PM

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https://bgp.he.net/AS14593

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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23409063

walrus01

SpaceX Starlink is now its own ASN and present at the Seattle Internet Exchange

little schooner Jun 4, 2020, 12:42 AM

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@waxen scroll I'm no baby but hey

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@rocky badge I ended up not getting the unifi switch and went with edgeswitch. It was hard to give up the command line

rocky badge Jun 4, 2020, 12:44 AM

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oof

little schooner Jun 4, 2020, 12:45 AM

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I didn't like the prospect of editing json

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Because it was not supported

waxen scroll Jun 4, 2020, 12:45 AM

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weirdo

little schooner Jun 4, 2020, 12:45 AM

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@waxen scroll I don't like to tinker when I'm doing summer class

waxen scroll Jun 4, 2020, 12:45 AM

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whatever.

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 1:07 AM

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huh

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how often do you need to configure a switch

fervent brook Jun 4, 2020, 2:23 AM

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0

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you can deploy a switch with no config

sonic notch Jun 4, 2020, 2:49 AM

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I'm considering getting cameras for my home, but don't know much. I was thinking of getting a few of these (https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C5JWK4K/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&psc=1&linkCode=sl1&tag=thehookup00-20&linkId=9f8e83696c83ad3e0cb7c074f9b17881&language=en_US&sa-no-redirect=1#customerReviews or https://smile.amazon.com/Reolink-Outdoor-Surveillance-Security-RLC-420-5MP/dp/B07FQ2T89L/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=RLC-420&qid=1562879547&s=gateway&sr=8-3&linkCode=sl1&tag=thehookup00-20&linkId=92a2a3d1bd6a61fc8312146ee73873c7&language=en_US&sa-no-redirect=1) and upgrading my FreeNAS PC with more storage. I was considering going with Ring or similar, but I want stuff stored locally and don't want to pay a subscription fee. I also have a Unifi system (Dream Machine so no Unifi Protect ; ( ).

little schooner Jun 4, 2020, 2:50 AM

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@vapid dune more often than I'd like

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But with cli, I can launch an ssh script on login to make a set of quick changes and revert them back the same way

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If I need to test something quick

south blade Jun 4, 2020, 4:52 AM

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fucking hell, I'm stressing out over here bridging ports! 4 port nic, port 1 is WAN, port 2 is LAN, to make port 3 and 4 bridged with LAN I have to do what in PFSense?

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Trying to follow this guide and then it loses me at "Navigate back to the Interface Assignments tab and change the LAN interface port to BRDIGE0" : https://protectli.com/kb/how-to-enable-lan-bridge-with-pfsense/

Protectli

How to Enable LAN Bridge with pfSense® - Protectli

A guide to enable LAN Bridge with pfSense®: Assigning the LAN interface to a bridge utilizing the additional ports, OPT1 and OPT2, on the Vault.

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I lose connection but connecting to port 3 and 4, which is supposed to now be assigned to Bridge, should get me back to connection? If so, I'm then supposed to go back in and change what was LAN to OPT3? which should be my 4....wut???

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How is that supposed to work, give me connection back on ports 3 and 4, if they're only supposed to be with default settings which means no configuration past enabled....

pseudo blade Jun 4, 2020, 8:56 AM

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@valid sonnet You can run RouterOS on the CRS112 without penalty as long as you hardware offload all switching and do not attempt to do any routing, but the switch chip in the CRS1XX series sucks in comparison to the 3XX ones.

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Less features, less capable

raven moth Jun 4, 2020, 10:00 AM

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I wanna use an old router as an extender

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can anyone help me

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anyone?

uncut spruce Jun 4, 2020, 11:26 AM

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depend on the model

south blade Jun 4, 2020, 4:00 PM

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So, I ended up having to connect the UniFi AP LR along with the router as I couldn't figure out the bridging last night, it worked as expected but another thing though, issue maybe?, is it does it's own DHCP?

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Like my phone, I already had a static IP address addressed to it with PFSense but now connected to the AP it shows a different MAC so now it's once again assigned to a random address in the DHCP pool.

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 4:07 PM

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the AP doesn't do DHCP

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must mean what ever you plugged into is doing it

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I would guess your second router isn't acting as a switch

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Why set your phone as a static? Android and iOS have already implemented random MAC add. generation which is why you are seeing a new MAC

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 4:09 PM

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oh the mac randomization? it's per AP as far as I know. and default is off

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oops missed the part about different mac

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Yes. And no, all my Android devices have had it enabled by default

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iOS, not sure

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 4:10 PM

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oh weird. I didn't explicitly turn mine off on my pixel

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I did turn off DoH though lol

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:11 PM

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lol I would for a few more months when everything slowly gets sorted out

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 4:12 PM

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nah I don't use it since I'm using a home vpn

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:14 PM

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Unless the VPN is being hosted in the cloud or local DNS using DoH, that doesn't really apply

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 4:14 PM

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huh?

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I mean I'm connecting from my phone to my VPN

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Yes, and if you are hosting the VPN at home, your request are still sent out that connection and viewable

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 4:15 PM

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yes sure, but there's only a handful of ways to mitigate against that

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I don't expect to use TOR at home

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finding a trust worthy VPN is also difficult

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:16 PM

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DNS with DoH or a router that supports it are easy solutions

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 4:16 PM

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DoH only moves the problem

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:16 PM

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That as well

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 4:17 PM

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you're still going to be connecting to the IPs lol

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I mean if you're worried about DNS security, then unbound with DNSSEC is probably sufficient

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Well of course. The main reason people want it is to hide it from their ISPs

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 4:18 PM

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I was using DoT for a while

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if they want to hide from their ISP then VPN is a better option imo

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Which while a cool concept, in practice, meh

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 4:18 PM

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I mean it moves the problem onto trusting who ever the VPN uses

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I don't think DoH is a good idea really

nocturne harness Jun 4, 2020, 4:19 PM

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Why set your phone as a static? Android and iOS have already implemented random MAC add. generation which is why you are seeing a new MAC
@hollow marlin this is only for when searching for wifi networks

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 4:19 PM

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aside from the bootstrapping problem

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:19 PM

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Thats why VPN through Assure or Amazon is the best option

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 4:19 PM

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LOL

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you're kidding me

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Azure or Amazon probably log your traffic just as much

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@nocturne harness hmm I think randomized mac per AP is actually default

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might just be my legacy connections from migration that don't use it

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https://tr2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/2019/06/04/d390bc2c-33a3-4def-8d19-1d2c49ef2b8d/macb.jpg

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not my phone but that's what my screen looks like on my wifi settings

nocturne harness Jun 4, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Starting in Android 8.0, Android devices use randomized MAC addresses when probing for new networks while not currently associated with a network. In Android 9, you can enable a developer option (it's disabled by default) to cause the device to use a randomized MAC address when connecting to a Wi-Fi network.
In Android 10, MAC randomization is enabled by default for client mode, SoftAp, and Wi-Fi Direct.

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Guess I'm not up to date with Android 10 😆

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 4:23 PM

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lol

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I mean 11 is around the corner somewhere I think

nocturne harness Jun 4, 2020, 4:23 PM

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dayum

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prob sept right?

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 4:26 PM

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I think it was supposed to be even sooner than that, but likely will be delayed a bit

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:26 PM

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@nocturne harness Its not just when searching for networks

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If connected it will persist with that random MAC

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 4:27 PM

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we just covered that o.o

nocturne harness Jun 4, 2020, 4:27 PM

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@nocturne harness Its not just when searching for networks
@hollow marlin yeah, it used to be it was just for searching, then in 10 they changed it, scroll up 5 messages 😉

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:28 PM

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oh lol

nocturne harness Jun 4, 2020, 4:28 PM

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all good haha

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 4:29 PM

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ugh I'm still not used to working from home with only one screen to RDP

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I tried 2x screens and my RDP session blows up horribly

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my work doesn't pay for enough VPN servers/bandwidth either .-.

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Well please tell me they are using an RDP gateway at least

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 4:31 PM

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oh no, I'm just on VPN and directly connecting to my box

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:32 PM

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ok good. Last few months I can't explain how much RDP traffic im seeing in netflow

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 4:32 PM

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oh you mean it's directly exposed to the internet?

nocturne harness Jun 4, 2020, 4:33 PM

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lmao

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Is it atleast encrypted

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 4:33 PM

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yeah but you're gonna get hammered by drive by attacks

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Yeah. ISP engineer. Its a concerning amount

nocturne harness Jun 4, 2020, 4:34 PM

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😬

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oh actually you're a great person to ask this

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my ISP modem running in bridge mode is accessible from my desktop by going to a 10.0.0.0 IP

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but my internal router only has a publicly addressable IP assigned to it, so I'm not sure why it would think it can access a private network address through the WAN masquerade

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Default route and directly connected is why

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You router sends all traffic not connected out WAN, modem sees it destined for itself, knows how to get back to your public and sends it back

nocturne harness Jun 4, 2020, 4:37 PM

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hmmm interesting

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I was just confused because my understanding is that routers don't route private address out

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They're normally non-routable address, iirc?

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And there's no static or connected route in the EdgeMax UI saying there's a 10.0.0.1 next hop

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It's shows 99.230.xxx.x as the next hop

south blade Jun 4, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Hmmm, yes. So it's not that the AP is doing any DHCP it's that my phone is showing a new MAC because it's connected to this new device, the AP, it seems. Reason I have static addresses is becasue I am using rules to turn VPN off and on on those devices.

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I setup the AP with my phone, should the desktop UniFi controller program give me more settings than what the phone does?

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Private routing just applies to BGP

nocturne harness Jun 4, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Ahhhhh

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that makes sense

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:39 PM

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You edgemax has a default route 0.0.0.0/0

nocturne harness Jun 4, 2020, 4:39 PM

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yeah

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Add a 10.x.x.x network to your lan and watch your connectivity drop

nocturne harness Jun 4, 2020, 4:40 PM

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that makes sense then

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I thought the masquerade would prevent the routing but I guess it's not configured for that

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I guess that's more of a firewall policy

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Yeah, all IP address are routable, caveats with multicast, but people tend to think private space cannot leave their router

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There is a reason why firewall policies use BOGON list for filtering so your local traffic doesnt route outbound

nocturne harness Jun 4, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Yeah, I think the confusion is because the private ranges are defined as being not on the public internet

south blade Jun 4, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Would there be any issues having the UniFi AP right next to the router? :/ I was seeing 80Mbps on my phone while I had it hooked up in another room, now I'm seeing 30Mbps next to it.

nocturne harness Jun 4, 2020, 4:43 PM

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There is a reason why firewall policies use BOGON list for filtering so your local traffic doesnt route outbound
yeah, I realized I'm missing one--not that it's really the biggest of deals for a home network

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Its not really. There are "security concerns" but in all reality...

nocturne harness Jun 4, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Yeah my wirewall in rn is just allow established/related anyway.. drops everything else

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Just inbound, you can still send request out which if blocked would break everything

nocturne harness Jun 4, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Yeah, just WAN_IN and WAN_LOCAL rules

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Would there be any issues having the UniFi AP right next to the router? :/ I was seeing 80Mbps on my phone while I had it hooked up in another room, now I'm seeing 30Mbps next to it.
@south blade assuming both places give your phone a good connection, it shouldn't matter

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Also you phone would not get the static address if it has a different mac

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since that's how the DHCP server decides what address to give it

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 4:50 PM

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If Unify has a live view of traffic or AP stats it would be good to post a screen shot

cedar igloo Jun 4, 2020, 5:26 PM

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If you clone a windows vm, without generalizing them, are they still able to ping each other? I have two cloned vms, same subnet, same SID and different ips but cant communicate

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but cant communicate
@cedar igloo I mean they cant ping. if i host a python http server on one, you can get to that on the other machine

south blade Jun 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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UniFi Controller for Windows gives startup error, shows a very helpful "Start-up failed." and blank message window below, what do? 😛

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I set it up with my phone but surely the desktop software has more options, no?

south blade Jun 4, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Shoot, figured it out port 8443 was being used by something else in the log, nice blank window.

distant wedge Jun 4, 2020, 6:40 PM

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I'm just gonna leave this here

📎 unknown.png

waxen scroll Jun 4, 2020, 6:43 PM

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theres two jokes in there

rocky badge Jun 4, 2020, 6:56 PM

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@clear igloo 👀 Xfinity Gigabit Pro is actually 2 Gig/2 Gig AND 1 Gig/1 Gig

clear igloo Jun 4, 2020, 6:56 PM

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@rocky badge lol, wat

rocky badge Jun 4, 2020, 6:57 PM

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it's just metro-e

clear igloo Jun 4, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Ah, ok

rocky badge Jun 4, 2020, 6:57 PM

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the CPE is just a Juniper switch

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its basically their business service for home

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1 static v4, static /48

clear igloo Jun 4, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Yah, I knew they installed a Juniper switch for the CPE, didn't realize it was metro-e but that makes sense

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 6:59 PM

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What Juniper switches are they throwing out there?

rocky badge Jun 4, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Juniper ACX2100

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 6:59 PM

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For metro-e we are using MEs and Cienas.

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ACX are their barebones routers

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I hate them

rocky badge Jun 4, 2020, 7:00 PM

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lmao

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the Comcast tech said it was a l2 switch, but yeah it is the router line

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 7:00 PM

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Farthest from an L2 switch you can get

rocky badge Jun 4, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Yeah that's what I was thinking lol

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its a long process as well lmao

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you have to be within a certain range of the node

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your project has to be approved, might take 3-4 months between first inquiry and activation

distant wedge Jun 4, 2020, 7:03 PM

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cost savingsssss

rocky badge Jun 4, 2020, 7:03 PM

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$500 install fee $500 activation fee

distant wedge Jun 4, 2020, 7:03 PM

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oof

rocky badge Jun 4, 2020, 7:04 PM

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but they pull fiber, splice it, test it

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iirc you also have a SLA lmao

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you get 6 strands of fiber

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2 active, 4 dark

little schooner Jun 4, 2020, 7:11 PM

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@rocky badge is the activation fee really necessary?

rocky badge Jun 4, 2020, 7:11 PM

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yes

little schooner Jun 4, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Do you know what it really covers?

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Like town fees?

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Permit fee?

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Since they own the line, the install fee should of been enough

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Gigabit over here is $300 a month

rocky badge Jun 4, 2020, 7:18 PM

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I dunno

distant wedge Jun 4, 2020, 7:37 PM

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@little schooner Probably has to cover running the connection into your house if it isn't, splicing fibers, making sure the connection at the node is spliced / terminated

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There's a lot that goes into it

rocky badge Jun 4, 2020, 7:39 PM

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@clear igloo When we get AT&T fiber installed, I'm just gonna let the tech do whatever he wants to lmao And then when he leaves, configure the gateway for bypass

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And if he tries to give me the pace gateway, I'll throw it at him and ask for the bgw210 because the pace gateway is shit 💩

clear igloo Jun 4, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Why would you do that when the tech is there?

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yup

rocky badge Jun 4, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Nah I'm gonna bypass it when the tech leaves

waxen scroll Jun 4, 2020, 7:48 PM

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i do the same

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i just shut up while the installer is there unless he tries to put software on my computer

rocky badge Jun 4, 2020, 7:49 PM

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🤢

little schooner Jun 4, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Eww Comcast tried putting the software on computer on my mom's computer

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No need for that junk

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 7:54 PM

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lol

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I think I'll aim to switch to SFP in the future when I can

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in favor of the ONT I'm using

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...mainly because it's smaller and eventually I suppose I can get a switch

rocky badge Jun 4, 2020, 7:57 PM

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I could do that....with the local ISP

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But their peering and network is shit

clear igloo Jun 4, 2020, 7:58 PM

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@rocky badge Then tell them to peer better 😛

rocky badge Jun 4, 2020, 7:58 PM

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lmao

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Because with the local ISP I can get one of these https://store.ui.com/collections/operator-ufiber/products/uf-instant

Ubiquiti Inc.

UFiber Instant Optical Transceiver

Gigabit Passive Optical Network CPEFeatures:

High-Performance GPON CPE
Up to 2.4 Gbps Downstream and 1.2 Gbps Upstream GPON structure
Supports up to 20 km GPON Links
Powerful Layer 2/3 Management Features
(1) GPON WAN Port, SC/APC
(1) 1Gbps SFP interface

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Since they use UFiber OLTs

distant wedge Jun 4, 2020, 7:59 PM

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The contractor responsible for the trenching work laid off quite a few people so I guess it's gonna be another two to three years before I get fiber. oof.

rocky badge Jun 4, 2020, 7:59 PM

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oof

distant wedge Jun 4, 2020, 7:59 PM

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That's great. The ISP here uses huawei lol.

nocturne harness Jun 4, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Lol which isp??

distant wedge Jun 4, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Bell

rocky badge Jun 4, 2020, 8:00 PM

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@clear igloo

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Imagine internet connected dishwasher

clear igloo Jun 4, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Royale_facepalm

distant wedge Jun 4, 2020, 8:01 PM

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@nocturne harness They've been using Huawei ONT's since the HH2000, the HH3000 is direct in but still uses the Huawei transceivers

nocturne harness Jun 4, 2020, 8:03 PM

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ohhh yeah bell

rocky badge Jun 4, 2020, 8:08 PM

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@dense moat omfgmgmgmgmgg https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/679716285927653453/718177831187906600/unknown.png

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the UXG-Pro Beta is coming sooooooon

dense moat Jun 4, 2020, 8:22 PM

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YESSSS

cedar igloo Jun 4, 2020, 8:26 PM

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a 10 minute old, clean install of windows 10 pro cannot be pinged from another machine. what are some steps to figure out whats wrong?

clear igloo Jun 4, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Disable the windows firewall?

cedar igloo Jun 4, 2020, 8:31 PM

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ill try it, but i thought pings worked straight out of the box

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yeah

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nope.

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nope. both just in esxi server. nothing fancy

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yes

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both virtualized on same network in esxi

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 8:35 PM

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@cedar igloo Pings in windows do not work right out of the box. Firewall needs to be changed

cedar igloo Jun 4, 2020, 8:36 PM

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i swear i never needed to do that before. does a default domain policy enable icmp when connected to domain?

clear igloo Jun 4, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Domain policy applies different rules

cedar igloo Jun 4, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Disable the windows firewall?
@clear igloo This worked, thanks. honestly, never messed with any firewall ports before and pings just worked

clear igloo Jun 4, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Yah, if Windows classifies the network as domain as opposed to Private then different rules apply. I think it's Private > Domain > Public with how strict the firewall rules are

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Sorry to interrupt guys but I’m having an absolute meltdown

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I’m trying to use the DHCP server on my pihole but it refuses to work

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All devices connected to the WiFi get an IP address assigned, but no access to the internet

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 9:15 PM

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What gateway address are they getting?

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Make sure its of the router and not the pihole..also make sure its on the same subnet

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:16 PM

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192.168.2.1 which is the IP address of the LAN port (of the router) it’s connected to

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How do I know the subnet of the pihole?

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Huh, that’s weird

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The WiFi is working on my phone

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The subnet is the same on my MacBook (connected to the pihole) and my router so that should be fine

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 9:21 PM

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o.O

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why do you need DHCP on pihole?

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can't get your router to push out the DNS settings?

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Because I couldn’t be bothered messing around with the DHCP of the double routers I have

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 9:22 PM

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I mean you need to disable both of the DHCP on those routers if you want Pihole to do it

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:22 PM

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I have

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 9:22 PM

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I see

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:23 PM

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I was having issues with my PC not getting an IP address

cedar igloo Jun 4, 2020, 9:23 PM

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bit of a longshot, but if you ping 8.8.8.8, does that work? just thinking it may be a dns issue

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Before DHCP servers were enabled on both routers

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 9:23 PM

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I was gonna say, you might need to figure out where your DHCP requests are going

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and if the pi is responding with it

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seems like a hassle

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o.o fwiw my router literally has a field you plug in the DNS server that gets pushed out with DHCP. it's simple to change

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:25 PM

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cedar igloo Jun 4, 2020, 9:26 PM

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ok. its not a dns issue

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Jesus Christ it’s still going with the timeout messages

cedar igloo Jun 4, 2020, 9:26 PM

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unix goes forever with ping requests

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Ah

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 9:27 PM

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I mean that's from the macbook

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it's a DHCP problem

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I assume if you assign yourself an IP on the macbook it works?

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:27 PM

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I can try

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 9:27 PM

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diagnosing DHCP problems is a headache

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two routers is also a headache

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...have you tried picking 1 router. turning the other into a switch. using Pihole as ONLY dns?

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Hang on

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The router is still set as 192.168.2.1 in the MacBook settings

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Maybe that’s the issue?

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 9:29 PM

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huh?

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it's not DHCP?

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I mean the other thing is that if you previously had 2x DHCP servers

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the gateway pushed out for each would be different

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:29 PM

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This when I do it manually what it defaults to

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vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 9:29 PM

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the Pi can't know which gateway to push out if you're on the router 1 segment or the router 2 segment... probably.

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I mean you can try to manually configure it. but see previous point about headaches

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:30 PM

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To be fair 192.168.2.1 is the router port the data would go through. But I’d think you’d want it to go through the pihole first

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 9:30 PM

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no

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pihole isn't acting as a router

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Ah okay

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Anyway, manually assigning IP doesn’t work either

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 9:31 PM

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maybe change your IP address to the same subnet as the router o.O

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Now it just says it’s online... weird

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The subnet mask is the same as the router

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Or do you mean actual IP address

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 9:32 PM

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but your IP address isn't even in the range

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:32 PM

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It’s in the range of the pi

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 9:32 PM

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yes but look at the router

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it's on 192.168.2.1

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:33 PM

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I don’t get what you are trying to say

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That the WiFi isn’t connected to that port?

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 9:34 PM

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192.168.1.0/24 (or 255.255.255.0) goes from 1.0 - 1.255

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:35 PM

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LAN2 is what the pi is connected to

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cedar igloo Jun 4, 2020, 9:36 PM

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can the pi ping 192.168.1.1 (or whatever the default upstream gateway you have specified is)?

hollow marlin Jun 4, 2020, 9:37 PM

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If you are using the Pi on a different subnet you need DHCP relay. Its not worth it over just letting the router handle DHCP

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 9:37 PM

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^

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like I said, best to do: 1 router that handles DHCP, a switch, and pihole as DNS

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:38 PM

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The issue is my phone works just fine, and that is connected to the same WiFi router the MacBook is

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 9:38 PM

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I mean you could hang the pihole DHCP server, but it better be off of the single router

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lol what is your phone using? automatic?

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Yes

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 9:39 PM

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what kind of IP does it get?

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:40 PM

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192.168.1.226

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 9:40 PM

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and the gateway?

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 9:40 PM

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But router 192.168.1.1

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Alright then

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I hate my life

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At least it’s working

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Thanks guys

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:D

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Still doesn’t work on my PC though... It has a link with the switch and it’s all set to auto so it should work... but I’ll look at it tomorrow, I’m getting a headache from all this

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For some reason it says the cable is unplugged

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Doesn’t work on my iPad either. The hell is going on

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Hang on

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Did I not save the router change to 192.168.1.1 on the pihole

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Because my iPad did just connect but the router is set as 192.168.2.1

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Yup... good going, me

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Alright, it probably definitely works now

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 10:13 PM

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throw it all out and restart is my advice

little schooner Jun 4, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Starting from a clean slate makes things clear. You can make changes one at a time until you hit the problem or the solution

buoyant sun Jun 4, 2020, 10:15 PM

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If it was my own house I would lol

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But it’s my parents and I don’t think I can really do that

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My PC is still complaining about having an Ethernet adapter plugged into it... while the LEDs on the back clearly show a 100mbit link

vapid dune Jun 4, 2020, 11:36 PM

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I wonder what is a good way to run unifi on a server while keeping resource usage low

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nevermind. the unifi controller uses a lot of ports lol

vapid dune Jun 5, 2020, 12:50 AM

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oh interesting. docker has a macvlan mode where you can assign mac addresses to individual containers

hollow marlin Jun 5, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Each container is already assigned a virtual MAC. You can assign one if absolutely needed

south blade Jun 5, 2020, 2:56 AM

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Any idea why an iPhone would have the worst signal to the UniFi AP LR I just got? 😛

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The mini PC with the cheap wifi adapter that's sitting not even 5 feet away from it has a better signal.

vapid dune Jun 5, 2020, 3:01 AM

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oops I mistyped. I meant IP addresses

little schooner Jun 5, 2020, 4:05 AM

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@south blade fully updated and everything? Was it a used model? Does it have a date code within the past year?

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I actually ran into some problems with my new flex HD unit

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It wouldn't provision correctly and would appear to be stuck for no reason

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But after enough tries it finally worked

fresh copper Jun 5, 2020, 4:07 AM

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I love my FlexHD. I did have an issue with it not wanting to update properly but I just had to restart and try again

little schooner Jun 5, 2020, 4:08 AM

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@fresh copper does it matter if I have mine on the floor?

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I don't have a storage shelf thing yet to place it on for better coverage

fresh copper Jun 5, 2020, 4:09 AM

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Probably not too much. I think it's mostly fine as long as it's standing up

upper cypress Jun 5, 2020, 8:46 AM

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linuth

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gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:00 PM

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hey can someone tell me why my domain, and vps ip dont lead to the same page on the vps?

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so http://51.222.19.119/ is my site and so is https://neednot.net/ and my domain is pointed to that ip but they lead to different parts of the vps

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here is my .conf

    ServerAdmin need_not@neednot.net
    ServerName http://www.neednot.net/
    ServerAlias http://www.neednot.net
    DocumentRoot /var/www/webApp/webApp/
    ErrorLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/error.log
    CustomLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/access.log combined
</VirtualHost>```

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:04 PM

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    ServerAdmin need_not@neednot.net
    ServerName neednot.net
    ServerAlias www.neednot.net
    DocumentRoot /var/www/webApp/webApp/
    ErrorLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/error.log
    CustomLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/access.log combined
</VirtualHost>```

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:08 PM

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didn't work

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:11 PM

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that document root location might be wrong then

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the IP uses the default location higher up in the config file

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:11 PM

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well hold on do i lead it to the .py file or where the .conf file is

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because the .conf is /var/www/webApp/

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the py is /var/www/webApp/webapp/

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:12 PM

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maybe this is a better question, wheres the index.php or html, or whatever file located

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:12 PM

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webApp/webApp

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my thing runs off flask in python

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:13 PM

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your website says

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You should replace this file (located at /var/www/html/index.html) before continuing to operate your HTTP server.

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did you restart apache after the config edits?

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:13 PM

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inside the webapp folder is this

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did you restart apache after the config edits?
@waxen scroll yes i did

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is it a cached result?

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:15 PM

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it might be since cloudflare

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:15 PM

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hmm

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anyway to tell cloudflare to update

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or wait is me who has to update

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:19 PM

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did you shut it down? i was trying to test and its dead

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:20 PM

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yeah i tried deleting the a records and adding them back

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idk how long it takes for cloudflare to update

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:22 PM

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so i bypassed cloudflare and it seems like thats not the issue

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:22 PM

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what

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how the heck did you do that

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the ip works

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neednot.net doesn't

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:23 PM

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open notepad as admin, then edit: C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:23 PM

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meaning the server is working but the doamin isn't connected

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:23 PM

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put the following line at the bottom of the file

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51.222.19.119 neednot.net

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it ignores your DNS on the internet which is cloudflare and uses that IP

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:25 PM

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hmm

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so then what is wrong

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:25 PM

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go higher in the file and look for "DocumentRoot" thats that set to

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its not under the virtual host stuff

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:26 PM

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in the vps?

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or windows

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:27 PM

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vps

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httpd.conf or whatever they call it now

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its been years since ive touched it

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:28 PM

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wait so the location to the default html?

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:29 PM

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yeah

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:29 PM

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ok

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:29 PM

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that seems to be where its pulling your site from

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:29 PM

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well not anymore

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now it's dead

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:29 PM

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just wanna make sure its the same as the virtual host

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:29 PM

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it's just /var/www/html/index.html

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nothing else here

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:30 PM

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can you paste the whole line? i dont recall it being set to a specific file

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it should just be a folder

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:30 PM

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yeah

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is this it?

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that's the index file from earlier

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nothing else in that folder

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:31 PM

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yeah, so for giggles do:

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    ServerAdmin need_not@neednot.net
    ServerName neednot.net
    ServerAlias www.neednot.net
    DocumentRoot /var/www/html/
    ErrorLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/error.log
    CustomLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/access.log combined
</VirtualHost>```

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:32 PM

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make a new .conf file in that directory and put that in it?

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:32 PM

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nope. you have to edit the existing one

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:33 PM

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it's an html file

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not .conf

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ohhh wait

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you want to edit the other one

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:33 PM

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httpd.conf or apache2.conf im not sure what its called now

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:33 PM

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it's webApp.conf

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because the folder name is webAPP

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:34 PM

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maybe instead pastebin.com the file

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also paste a "ps aux" output

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:34 PM

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wat

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although how come neednot.net died all together

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:35 PM

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not sure, its still loading for me

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:35 PM

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nothing to see tbh

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waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:37 PM

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on the command line type "ps aux | grep apache" , if that doesnt work "ps aux | grep http"

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im trying to figure out if its been told to use some random config file

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:38 PM

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root      1874  0.0  1.1  88964  5564 ?        Ss   12:34   0:00 /usr/sbin/apach                     e2 -k start
www-data  1877  0.2 13.8 913076 69084 ?        Sl   12:34   0:00 /usr/sbin/apach                     e2 -k start
www-data  1878  0.2 13.8 1044436 69512 ?       Sl   12:34   0:00 /usr/sbin/apach                     e2 -k start
root      1944  0.0  0.1  12948   924 pts/0    S+   12:37   0:00 grep --color=au                     to apache

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:38 PM

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ok so its probably using /etc/apache2/apache2.conf for the config file

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:38 PM

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oh

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it's nothing

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:39 PM

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try putting your config for the neednot virtual host in there and see what happens

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:39 PM

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https://pastebin.com/3zyHTNSk

Pastebin

# This is the main Apache server configuration file. It contains t...

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:40 PM

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oh damnit this is the stupid new way of doing it

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/etc/apache2/sites-enabled

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whats in there?

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:41 PM

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YOU DID IT

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it's a mirror of my first super bad .conf file that is in the out dated format

waxen scroll Jun 5, 2020, 4:41 PM

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haha

gilded ice Jun 5, 2020, 4:42 PM

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still is dead though

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should i remove that thing from note pad