I don't know how to detect the transfer problems if it's network related like that
#networking
little schooner
Unless like you said it happens at the hardware level with chipsets or software with drivers
rocky badge
Is SMB single threaded.... https://blob.pcmr.rocks/JollySmallBlob.png
little schooner
@rocky badge bummer
This is the age of multithread
The software needs to keep up
rocky badge
Lol yeah
Reading from
Timing buffered disk reads: 5296 MB in 3.00 seconds = 1764.69 MB/sec
I can defo read faster from the server
The drives are capable
sonic notch
If I have a 5 port unmanaged switch, would a router see 1 device (the switch) or all devices connected to it?
naive moat
i'm dumb as rocks when it comes to networking. is it somehow possible to portforward on an ipv6 router? i'd have to call my isp, so are there any workarounds? i have an old ipv4 router if i can do anything with it
shrewd pier
If I have a 5 port unmanaged switch, would a router see 1 device (the switch) or all devices connected to it?
@sonic notchWhat do you mean by "see" ?
main sentinel
i need better internet
half needle
Should I run ExpressVPN's firmware or DD-WRT on my Netgear r7000 for a VPN connection?
It's a secondary router.
slow pivot
@little schooner SMB and iSCSI have very different use cases... SMB is a network filesystem while iSCSI is a block-level protocol. So you can do things with iSCSI like boot a machine. SMB can only serve files.
little schooner
@slow pivot righto
abstract magnet
how do i use the usb drives that are attached to my gateway
i mean how do i use them for storage
thick minnow
boyws i have fiber coming into my house why is my internet so bad
dire flare
@abstract magnet I'm guessing they're intended to be used as a Samba share? Consult your gateways manual
abstract magnet
we are renting the gateway (ik) and we didnt get a manual, it is a hitron cgnm-2552
@dire flare
there are 2 usb 3.0 ports
dire flare
If you haven't got a manual then it's up to you to either find one or dig through the webui & find options
abstract magnet
ok
warm fog
@thick minnow where I live you can have fiber but still low speeds, because you have to pay extra for more speed
like the providers just limit your speeds untill you pay more
thick minnow
we pay for the i gigbit
warm fog
and your speed is low?
thick minnow
but we only get 400 down and 100 up
thick minnow
it is when the hole house is cat 6e
thick minnow
but its just not worker
warm fog
i would contact your provider then
warm fog
all your drivers are also up to date?
warm fog
thats a yikes
thick minnow
its version so
warm fog
where are you from if i may ask?
thick minnow
road island
warm fog
ohh yeah i've no clue about the providers there XD
thick minnow
its version cox and comcatst and exfinity
warm fog
i've literary no clue what that is
thick minnow
google them
warm fog
and then?
I don't think I can help you with your problem XD
I've told you what I know
warm fog
XD
thick minnow
i will say the line in the street broke on sunday and monday
warm fog
has it always been slower than 1gbps?
thick minnow
basicly
warm fog
than that isn't the underlaying problem
thick minnow
2 years after we bought it things started
thick minnow
i live 4 miles from there little shak of spiles and servers
warm fog
still, if they don't want to help...
thick minnow
i dont think its that they dont want to i think its just they dont know how
warm fog
it is their obligation to make sure you get what you pay for
I don't know how either
I have to go, got some work to do
warm fog
sorry i couldn't help you
thick minnow
im heading out see yua
warm fog
what time is it in road island
sonic notch
I bought a Unifi Dream Machine. Was it worth it or no? Should I cancel and get something else
hollow marlin
@thick minnow If you have always gotten 400/100 its most likely your router. Either on wireless or lower end routers tend to only be able to push between 4-500
little schooner
@sonic notch it's an all in one unit, if that tickles your fancy. If it works, it's a good buy
hollow marlin
Only downsides of the DM is you cannot use additional APs AFAIK
little schooner
@sonic notch works best if one ap is all you'll need
And if you want early 1st gen wifi 6
waxen scroll
@little schooner i charge at least $70/hr for that advice and you gave it free
little schooner
@waxen scroll I'm used to doing work for free. Cough the professor cough ahemmm
waxen scroll
dislike
knotty tartan
Anyone in here have any experience running pfsense on a vm?
little schooner
@knotty tartan me. I am using it for OpenVPN connections
I have NAT rule on Edgerouter that redirects back to it
knotty tartan
Ok what virtulization software are you using on the machine that's running pfs?
little schooner
@knotty tartan hyperv
south blade
Can I route specific devices through OpenVPN on PFSense? I'm talking all traffic. While still able to access my Emby Server that's not on the VPN. The way I have it right now it's all devices.
Took me following many guides and many tries to get OpenVPN giving me 85% off my full bandwidth through VPN, otherwise I was getting about 20Mbps (same as the Android app version) and nowhere near the 150Mbps on the desktop VPN app. In the end I don't know what exactly got it working right, but any test I throw at it, such as IPleak, shows that I am fully secure.
waxen scroll
Might need a drawing of the whole environment. I get what you're trying to say but at the same time I don't. Depends what it looks like
Also I don't do pfsense but can probably advise if ovpn itself can do it
south blade
What I got, atleast the way I see it...
little schooner
@south blade pfsense has its own Wan connection on router? Or is that a double router?
south blade
That's what I'm imagining what I'm trying to do should look like....
modem is connected to PFSense box, PFSense box is connected to router, my wired and wireless devices are connected to router.
slow pivot
@south blade if you router is actually setup correctly, accessing your Emby server should not go through pfSense/ovpn
Given that drawing, the pc’s, android device should have your router as their default route, and the router should have pfsense setup as its default route
jaunty talon
Why have a pfsense and then a router? Shouldn't your CPE (Modem) be before pfsense and in bridge?
sonic notch
@hollow marlin @little schooner It supports multiple APs (no WiFi 6 tho)
south blade
Given that drawing, the pc’s, android device should have your router as their default route, and the router should have pfsense setup as its default route
@slow pivot I have WAN and DHCP disabled on the router, so it's just routing, the PFSense box is handling DHCP. I wish WIFI worked on the PFSense box, I have 5 ethernet ports on the PFSense box total actually, so WIFI is all the box would be missing to get rid of my router (TP-Link ARCHER-C7 with DD-WRT).
pine nimbus
Hello
when an ISP says "50-70mbps" on a contract, is it possible to always have it at 70mbps, is that decided by the setup of the user?
or is that more down to the ISP
clear igloo
Down to the ISP in almost every case. unless you have some really bad equipment
jaunty talon
true :D
Here is a cool project I will use for our new office network to do it fully automated with ZTP :) https://github.com/SUNET/cnaas-nms
Thinking about making a hugeass blog post with everything that will go into the network (from hardware to config) :D
waxen scroll
ive been doing a lot of cisco ACI lately.... no automation for it yet. its painful
@south blade why is PC and Emby not on the same subnet? it sounds like your pfsense is not a switch and is not bridged?
maybe you need to use a bridge
im sure ive seen multiple people in here bridging their pfsense box
if each one has a cable to pfsense and theres no switch, a software bridge is the correct answer for this problem
@jaunty talon y u not know dis
😄
clear igloo
10Mbps hub 😄
waxen scroll
extreme networks
wheat star
https://gyazo.com/736872d46124e34a419d6de72f834717 this is for school and im so confused i didnt pay attention in class
imkinda stuck rn
clear igloo
How do you get 200.200.200.200 for the first answer? 200 isn't even in the range of 200.200.200.128/26
little schooner
@wheat star use a subnet calculator
wheat star
i used a subnet calc
little schooner
Use a different one and click calculate button after making changes
clear igloo
128
129
190
191
wheat star
how would i use it?
south blade
@south blade why is PC and Emby not on the same subnet? it sounds like your pfsense is not a switch and is not bridged?
@waxen scroll Shoot, I think I am? They can all access eachother right now....but they're also all behind the VPN too which I don't want anymore as it gives me issues on certain sites like totalwireless.com, boostmobile.com, realtor.com, etc.
waxen scroll
whats the base interface config for each? ipconfig
ipconfig will show VPN too and you dont want to paste that
south blade
I've never seen VPN info in there, not even my own IP address actually. All I see is IP given by PFSense which on this desktop is 192.168.10.100 and the gateway as 192.168.10.1 which is the PFSense box. only play I can see my IP address and VPN address is in PFSense.
torn moat
how can i get rid of cgnat. Any service or vpn which allows hosting ?
tight anvil
Am i able to portforward if my router is directly connected to another router?
waxen scroll
sure, you just have to do it twice
craggy parcel
Or disable NAT in one of the routers.
lucid hare
Updated realtek gigabyte ethernet drivers now I have no ethernet adapter and now internet. Ethernet is my only way of internet access.
sonic notch
Can I have 2 VLANs on 1 SSID (1 VLAN for smart home, 1 for actual devices) on a Unifi Dream Machine?
keen ermine
Quick question that might sound dumb at first.
Can a cat6 cable work on a cat5 ethernet keystone jack at cat6 speeds or do I need a specific cat 6 jack
keen ermine
I still hate my Cat6 and 5 runs are 100Mbps
my dad say oh it's fine but nope
transfering at 10 MB LAN is SLOW AF
and I ain't going to buy a network card, and use a switch to connect a NAS and a PC to 1Gbps or 10 in the same room
thick zephyr
I think you need a specific Cat6 jack for a Cat6 cable
waxen scroll
@keen ermine yes it will as long as its not actually "cat5" it has to be cat5e
keen ermine
yeah it's Cat5e
the jack that is I think
cause both my Cat5e wiring and Cat6 report 100mbps
waxen scroll
whats connected on either side of the cable?
keen ermine
router and pc
waxen scroll
open powershell on the PC
Get-NetAdapter | SELECT name, LinkSpeed, fullduplex | ft -autosize
paste
keen ermine
name LinkSpeed FullDuplex
VMware Network Adapter VMnet1 100 Mbps True
Ethernet 100 Mbps True
VMware Network Adapter VMnet8 100 Mbps True
hopefullt the bot doesn't get mad now
keen ermine
Bytes 791323764 22288831
Unicast packets 604276 205678
Non-unicast packets 14684 7077
Discards 0 0
Errors 0 0
Unknown protocols 0
so i dont think the cable is necessarily bad, if it was i would expect duplex to say false and see errors
has the computer ever done a gb elsewhere?
waxen scroll
welp, you need to know for sure otherwise you're wasting your time lol
maybe move it into the same room as the router and plug it in
@clear igloo where u at
lucid hare
What's the fastest ethernet cable I can get
waxen scroll
the only other thing that would cause this is if all 8 wires arent secure in the jacks
or perhaps one of the patch cables only uses 4 wires ( ive seen it)
its been years though
waxen scroll
could be the issue
keen ermine
but weird how even Cat5e it shows 100 Mbps
keen ermine
i recall he said it was straight-through
I grabbed 1 cable for reference
clip on top
clip above from left to right
Brown
Brown/White
Green
Blue/White
Blue
Green/White
Orange
Orange/White
thats a reference working 1 Gbps wire
T568B standard
Cat6 wire
Brown/White, Brown, Green/White, Green, Orange/White, Orange, Blue/White, Blue
Dunoo what standard that is
rocky badge
o/O/g/B/b/G/br/Br
lowercase being that color + wite
little schooner
@keen ermine yeah if your dad says it's fine, that's a problem. If he said it would be a lot of work to fix it, then I can agree
Gig should be the minimum since fast ethernet has been long replaced a while ago
keen ermine
yeah, issue is he says it's fine cause pin layout and how it uses 4 and the other 4 can go whatever
while I think it's to cover interferance?
sonic notch
I just got a Unifi Dream Machine. Is it worth it to make a 2nd VLAN for IoT, or can I be lazy?
gaunt wigeon
Anyone have an idea what I'm doing wrong here?
ubuntu@vague scarab-Desktop:~$ sudo service smb status
● smb.service
Loaded: masked (Reason: Unit smb.service is masked.)
Active: inactive (dead)
ubuntu@vague scarab-Desktop:~$ sudo service smb start
Failed to start smb.service: Unit smb.service is masked.
ubuntu@vague scarab-Desktop:~$ sudo service smb unmask
smb: unrecognized service
ubuntu@vague scarab-Desktop:~$ sudo systemctl unmask smb.service
Removed /etc/systemd/system/smb.service.
ubuntu@vague scarab-Desktop:~$ sudo service smb start
Failed to start smb.service: Unit smb.service not found.
Ubuntu 20.04 Server with Budgie Desktop
gaunt wigeon
No
If I reboot, /etc/systemd/system/smb.service will return
(verifying that now actually)
vague scarab
why u tagging me tho lol
earnest wasp
Should go for a more obscure distro like slackware if you don't want people pasting terminal output to accidentally tag you 😉
thick minnow
@sonic notch you could be lazy but it would be a shame when one of your devices get hacked because you where lazy and didnt seperate the them
@Big & Fresh Вин дизель#0999 the fastest cable you can get dependa on where you live since in the US its hard to get cat 7 and in the EU you can get it quite easily. But i wouldnt bother since they are super expensive and you cant really use it with anything, cat 7 does 100Gb/s and you can’t really use that with anything. So I woul recommend cat 6 if you want fast speeds.
keen ermine
So I think I should fix the patch cable but I remember last time I got mad for cutting wire and not asking
He says doesn't matter the order not how it's tiredsome but shrug
I would buy a pack of RJ45 but COVID and how online buy is restricted for me 🤷
he says wiring doesn't matter as g/G and o/O are the only active ones
so he did his whole br/Br/g/G/o/O/b/B
which looks way different
way different that o/O/g/B/b/G/br/Br or g/G/o/B/b/O/br/Br standards
looks like a flipped version of T568B but blue is absent
I think the reason the other conductors are there is for crosstalk prevention or something IDK. also apparently we are using I think Cat5 plugs on Cat6
not 6a, just 6
clear igloo
Technically, so long as both sides match then the wiring order doesn't matter, it's just copper. BUT the standard is there to provide consistency. For gigabit though all 8 wires matter
Cat5 plugs can be used on Cat6 cable provided the gauge fits. Some Cat6 uses thicker gauge wire and will give you hell trying to get it into a Cat5 plug so it's recommended to use the same Cat plug as the wire
@keen ermine
clear igloo
Yup
keen ermine
welp, time to fix it and maybe get yelled at
dunno how many spare ethernet jacks are in his ethernet kit
clear igloo
Tell him to lookup TIA/EIA wiring for gigabit
keen ermine
he did
He showed this that only 4 wires have electricity and how doesn't matter where it goes since 4 wires
mainly the left
clear igloo
That's for fast ethernet
keen ermine
no wonder Windows reports 100Mbps
waxen scroll
lmao
little schooner
@keen ermine sounds like laziness
waxen scroll
cmon @little schooner your prof is the same
little schooner
@waxen scroll uhhh 😂😂
keen ermine
lmao
raw timber
Any one else house so small that one unfi access point cover it
And past the edge of the lawn Lol
little schooner
@waxen scroll I installed the mesh ap outside and now im getting some great outdoor coverage
Well coverage near my electric panel is still garbage
But it's the rest of the property outside that counts lol
raw timber
@waxen scroll how big of houses to me out side I consider cover to be 50/50 that how good it is
waxen scroll
3000sqft
waxen scroll
3 floor, basement is finished
raw timber
Same as our
waxen scroll
i dont have the AP optimally mounted, but its near the center of everything
waxen scroll
i think all my neighbors must have theirs next to their windows cause i see a ton of SSIDs even in my basement despite the property being spread out between homes
waxen scroll
im the only one with an AP that can use radar bands, so its been working great
neighbors have slammed the 2.4 channels and 5 is gonna get there eventually
raw timber
Yeahs our 2.4 is over load too
Did you see that post that is nuts
For that ISP they so cheap
little schooner
@waxen scroll is there radar bands for 2.4ghz?
I see them for 5ghz
The wiki article says channel 14 maybe?
little schooner
@rocky badge im watching the transmit and receive statistics on my edge switch and during an image capture, the server reports "receiving" traffic from the client requesting the image file from it. How is that possible?
Is it backwards on the new interface?
waxen scroll
bruh
the server is sending the traffic to the port on the switch, therefor it is receiving
craggy parcel
@little schooner On most switches you just need to imagine you're inside the switch. Traffic going to the switch is received and traffic going from the switch is sent.
little schooner
@waxen scroll @craggy parcel oh xD
craggy parcel
It's tricked me more than once. But since I realized you just need to imaging you're inside the switch, it seems to have stuck. 😉
little schooner
@waxen scroll @craggy parcel lol it reminds me of some switch interfaces that also use the term "upload" as download for getting config files from switch
But then in some other switches, download actually means download to your pc
Funny but thx for clarification
craggy parcel
Yeah, manufactures have not agreed on terminology. 😦
half valley
gaunt wigeon
Quick NetworkManager question hopefully someone will know...
I'm trying to turn my Raspberry Pi 4 into a router. I have two USB3 AC1200 wireless adapters, one picks up wi-fi from my landlord (on 5GHz) and the other broadcasts a Hotspot; this part is working great... But when I try to add Ethernet to the mix (set "IP method" for Ethernet to "Share to Other Computers") like the AP wi-fi is, it fails. I have the Ethernet port on the Pi going out to a switch, I want the pi to act like a wired router here too and not just a wireless hotspot.
Using Ubuntu 20.04
ip addr...
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group default qlen 1000
link/ether dc:a6:32:18:a6:bc brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: wlan0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state DOWN group default qlen 1000
link/ether dc:a6:32:18:a6:bd brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
4: wlan1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP group default qlen 1000
link/ether bc:ec:23:c3:72:d8 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 10.42.0.1/24 brd 10.42.0.255 scope global noprefixroute wlan1
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
inet6 fe80::a2df:6543:74ba:5d45/64 scope link noprefixroute
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
5: wlan2: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP group default qlen 1000
link/ether 7c:a7:b0:ae:38:0c brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 192.168.1.11/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global dynamic noprefixroute wlan2
valid_lft 257364sec preferred_lft 257364sec
inet6 2600:6c44:7c7f:f2cb:af84:c7c7:58c2:3acb/64 scope global dynamic noprefixroute
valid_lft 470486sec preferred_lft 470486sec
inet6 fe80::a41e:599d:56b6:3888/64 scope link noprefixroute
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
6: virbr0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state DOWN group default qlen 1000
link/ether 52:54:00:14:c2:bd brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 192.168.122.1/24 brd 192.168.122.255 scope global virbr0
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
7: virbr0-nic: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel master virbr0 state DOWN group default qlen 1000
link/ether 52:54:00:14:c2:bd brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
Routes...
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
default HG6Box 0.0.0.0 UG 601 0 0 wlan2
10.42.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 600 0 0 wlan1
link-local 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 wlan1
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 601 0 0 wlan2
192.168.122.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 virbr0
wlan2 is the source for internet, wlan1 is the hotspot (wlan0 is the Pi's internal WiFi and is not used)
My netplan is empty, not sure if that's good or bad for Network Manager
The cloud-init cloud.d service is also removed from the default installation
So nothing should be touching networking except NetworkManager
Since my landlord has some walls between me and her router, this seemed like a great option, use my best WiFi adapter to get a single stream of high speed 5Ghz data with source, then deal with individual device's wi-fi locally, but wire as much up via Ethernet as possible.
I can't install my own Internet (rental restriction), that's why she provides it.
Not sure what his name on Discord, but could sure use some Anthony (or Anthony level) help. 🙂
And an LTT video 😉
vapid dune
step 1: buy a purpose built device for the same cost and use it
gaunt wigeon
@vapid dune If you know of a commercial router, that not only receives it's Internet via wi-fi, but also creates it's own subnet with a hotspot and ethernet ports, please let me know! 🙂
vapid dune
there are a lot of routers that will also act as a wireless extender. really though you're better off seeing if your landlord can add an AP somewhere closer to you that's wired
gaunt wigeon
I want my own subnet though
vapid dune
double nat isn't worth the trouble
gaunt wigeon
Why?
Why is it "trouble" is the big question, it should be easy after 30 year of linux
hushed glacier
Gookle fiber gigabyte Ethernetz for dayz
vapid dune
I mean if you're lucky maybe they can just run you an ethernet line that has an external ip then you can run your own router instead. I know ISPs in my area give out multiple external addresses
gaunt wigeon
No not bugging my landlord, I am her only tenant in a studio, so no
vapid dune
I don't see what "30 years of linux" has to do with it
double nat more affects you when you're having connections come inbound
gaunt wigeon
This type of thing should be trivial by now, Network Manager says it can do it... And on a Raspbian distro I did get it to act like a wired router, but in that distro couldn't get the hotspot to work.
I want want my cake and to eat it too!!!
🙂
@vapid dune Double NAT just means my subnet doesn't have a public IP, big whoop. I'm not allowing any incoming connections.
vapid dune
if all you're doing is web browsing then sure it's probably fine. as soon as you start playing online games then you'll probably run into headaches
gaunt wigeon
Yeah and RealVNC works, so it does work for me for my use case
vapid dune
realvnc uses cloud to allow access doesn't it
gaunt wigeon
I just want wired and wireless to both use the same "Share to Other Computers" wi-fi I get from my landlord
Yes
That's why it works
vapid dune
I mean they're essentially relaying the data in the worst case
gaunt wigeon
You think a repeater would be better then what I'd doing?
vapid dune
what are you trying to do? have your own subnet for the heck of it?
I mean I can understand the range problem
gaunt wigeon
Kind of, but also to isolate my network from hers
vapid dune
I mean I assume internet speed isn't your concern? or maybe the isp speed isn't as fast as the wireless
extending wifi usually results in half the speed
gaunt wigeon
The ISP is great, and she is never online, speeds are good
The problem is only my BEST wi-fi adapter can only get a 50% signal to her router (on 5Ghz, and want that for the faster speeds), the last thing I need is 5 devices fighting for access (all with less powerful wi-fi); it's just a bunch of wi-fi noise at this point.
I'm trying to setup a single channel to her, then distribute that locally.
When I had the "Raspbian Router" running (wired works, wireless doesn't), all my wired devices got considerably faster speeds verses when they individually connected to the landlords Wi-Fi, so I'm certain this is a good idea for my use case. 🙂
extending wifi usually results in half the speed
@vapid dune Exactly, because an extender doesn't have two wi-fi adapters (it "multi-tasks" the single one it does, thus 50% reduction in speeds). 🙂
No commercial router I know of has two wi-fi adapters
little schooner
@gaunt wigeon well, for good reason. Interference
gaunt wigeon
Granted, among other things that's what I'm trying to avoid.
little schooner
@gaunt wigeon I just read it. So you're trying to bypass landlords router because it's probably causing your devices to be very slow connecting directly to its SSID?
gaunt wigeon
bypass is a poor choice of words, but yes
little schooner
It is lol
little schooner
Is it being overwhelmed or something
Since you have access to it you can view its statistics
gaunt wigeon
My best wi-fi adapter only gets about a 50% signal strength
little schooner
Yeah, that's going to be a bad time
gaunt wigeon
I want to channel all traffic thought hat
Actually it's not, if other devices are also trying to use the same channel
gaunt wigeon
What's powerline? Got a tldr or should I google?
gaunt wigeon
My phone can't get one, my raspberry pi's without external wi-fi adapters can't get one.
little schooner
And it's not like you can bridge your phone to the raspberry pi's wired connection
gaunt wigeon
Right
little schooner
I was going to suggest like using a laptop as a wifi Hotspot
Pi > laptop > wifi
Well that won't work either here xD
little schooner
Yes one pi with wifi access no?
gaunt wigeon
Yes
little schooner
Yeah. So wired pi > pi with wireless > wifi ssid
You don't need NAT if it's local
gaunt wigeon
the Raspbian image... It goes WiFi to Ethernet fine, then I could have the other pi doing the Wi-Fi, on a different subnet :/
vapid dune
He wants his own subnet
gaunt wigeon
It's off, Blue said something about it
vapid dune
And a pi isn't a good router interface
gaunt wigeon
@vapid dune not even with two AC1200 Wi-Fi Adapters?
little schooner
i haven't used a pi before so I do not know what its like
gaunt wigeon
It's no different... Running Ubuntu 20.04
@little schooner My issue isn't platform specific.
At least I hope it isn't! It does have different results on the only two real distro options I have though.
In either case it seems Network Manager can not bridge three network adapters.
vapid dune
I mean you'd probably need to drop into command line and config files
gaunt wigeon
Ok, ready
vapid dune
Try Google
gaunt wigeon
kk
lost charm
Wird behaviour I've seen with my laptop
I boot up and "unable to connect to this network" about my home wifi. I USB tether to it and it gets online I start a hotspot from the laptop and then I am able to connect to my home network. How can I make it reliable, I've already tried reinstalling the manufacturer drivers for wan. I also can't connect to other wifi networks like a personal hotspot on my phone. All of these problems are in Windows. In gnu/linux(manjaro) there are no issues whatsoever about the network. Any ideas to what's happening?
peak ibex
so basically,i want my home lab to have an internet connection but i want it to go through another router. can i set a pf sense box to do this?
thick zephyr
@lost charm i have the same issues with my laptop and my hotspot
thorny vector
@peak ibex You can, either by having a single edge router that you direct your lab router to, or somehow getting another public IP from your ISP
lost charm
@thick zephyr are you on latest windows update?
thick zephyr
@lost charm yes
lost charm
I think that might be the problem as I didn't have the problem in earlier versions
thick zephyr
@lost charm thats true for me as well as soon as i updated both of my laptops i started having issues with my hotspot connecting to my devices but only on my laptop i can connect wired and wireless to my router but not directly via my phone
lost charm
@thick zephyr okay so I'm not the only one. Oh well time to move to linux
thick zephyr
@lost charm i was thinking the same thing
lost charm
@thick zephyr if you need any help send me a dm or ping me in tech support
I already switched and am using it
thick zephyr
@lost charm thank you so much
lost charm
Np pass it on when someone else needs help
cedar igloo
Hi guys, I'm learning about enterprise networking, creating vlans and subnets. How are enterprise networks usually set up? eg. what devices can communicate with each other, and which should be one way?
and what are the best practices for different subnets? One for management (DCs & DNS), another for app servers?
thorny vector
Thats hard to answer since its so open ended. Depends mostly on whats being served, who has access, what kind of access they need...
cedar igloo
well, i am just wanting it to be a side project as close to an enterprise network as possible. Its just going to be me using it- just a learning exercise. Planning on having routers, switches, printers, app servers, sql servers, windows & linux clients/servers, active directory, RDS servers etc
bright forge
I've just gotten a Edgerouter X about two hours ago, I've gotten it setup but whenever I give it internet I loose connection to it shortly after. (It's being given internet from another router.) I am not exactly sure the cause of the issue so some help would be greatly appreciated! (Please tag me if responding to me, I'm a tad busy atm so I don't wanna miss responses.)
rocky badge
At home I use this https://blob.pcmr.rocks/HappyMedicalBlob.png
infra and VMs have 100% access
IoT can only access port 53 (udp and tcp) to only two addresses in infra and VMs
thorny vector
Meanwhile I'm over here, not using vlans very much, if at all, because I separate everything with their own physical switch
rocky badge
Guest is the same as IoT
but broadcast is filtered
Guests can't access each other, only them and the gateway
cedar igloo
ok, thanks. This should give me a helping hand designing it
rocky badge
@thorny vector https://blob.pcmr.rocks/MustyUnlawfulBlob.png
I finally got librenms setup again lol
vapid dune
setups are based on need and paranoia
rocky badge
LibreNMS automatically discovers SNMP, UNMS auto discovers EdgeMAX, OpenManage auto discovers iDRAC/ESXi/IPMI
thorny vector
I mainly use splunk for all my compiled monitoring
I'm gonna take a look at librenms
vapid dune
how big is your place blob
rocky badge
I need to centralized logging next
vapid dune
that's a lot of devices lol
rocky badge
@vapid dune sqft?
vapid dune
yeah
rocky badge
like ~2k
vapid dune
ah I see
rocky badge
also "my place" 😄
rocky badge
Ah, nice
When we move parents are gonna let me do a yuuuge network 😄
Mainly because dad wants good coverage for wireless and wants Ethernet in every room
thorny vector
@rocky badge use splunk. It's amazing at compiling and indexing non similar data streams, and turning it into human readable content
rocky badge
hmm
I'm trying to decide on ELK and graylog
but I'll look at splunk now lol
oof this is still out of stock https://blob.pcmr.rocks/HardInconsequentialBlob.png
clear igloo
@rocky badge Split tunnel all the things!
rocky badge
Yeet
hollow marlin
Unifi in a datacenter....
thorny vector
wut
little schooner
My professor hates the unifi security gateway he bought
I guess he had higher expectations for it
Something something only 100mbps when threat management enabled
thorny vector
hur-dur, just buy 10 and stack em for gigabit then /s
rocky badge
I mean
Did you expect it to do more than 85Mbps with IDS/IPS
It doesn't have much ram
The UDMP does 3.5Gbps IPS/IDS and the UDM does 850Mbps IPS/IDS
The old USG-XG-8 does 1Gbps IPS/IDS and iirc the USG-Pro4 does like 300-400?
thorny vector
whitebox solution EVERYTHING
hollow marlin
Yes! I too love little support
waxen scroll
lmao
juan with the red pill
even with something like ubnt where it costs only $500... RIP you if you think you can swap the switch cause its cheap every time
ive had many "my network isnt behaving right" calls where it wasnt due to a hardware failure
hollow marlin
Rarely do I see hardware being the issue, even PSUs given its lack of even hot swappable PSU.
But with their software track record and suddenly competing in the EVPN/VXLAN space, I cannot imagine anyone even wanting to beta test that
clear igloo
beta test all the software!!
waxen scroll
sometimes even the software is working right and its your bad config
hollow marlin
That too
hollow marlin
How dare you offend my MX10003
little schooner
@thorny vector for a second there, I thought it said whiteboy solution
I misplaced the x
thorny vector
thats essentially the same thing. just more duct tape and zip ties
hardy cloud
Is it possible to pair ubiquiti unifi ap's to a PFsense router?
thorny vector
@hardy cloud I'm not aware of anything that would prevent it
hardy cloud
@hardy cloud I'm not aware of anything that would prevent it
@thorny vector
Ok, I'll pull the trigger on it then
bright forge
Aight so I got my Ubiquiti Edgerouter X set up as a switch but once I do that I can't access its gui. Any ideas? I've spent most of my day trying to make it so I can access its gui to no avail, but I'm open to suggestions! (Please ping when responding, am busy boi.) Its internet connection is being provided by my main router. I'm not an expert in networking so looking for some help.
thorny vector
@bright forge does it not keep a management address in switch mode?
thick minnow
Hi guys,anyone good with packet tracer? i have some question
bright forge
Not sure where to see what it is or if it could potentially conflict with my main router's address or not
cedar igloo
Is there any reason not to increase the MTU size in a local network?
dire flare
@cedar igloo possible increase in latency, not every device supports larger frames, potential for fragmentation and dropping packets with the no fragmentation flag
cedar igloo
Another question, is it a good idea to put infrastructure devices on a different domain to others? eg. dc01.infra.domain.com and win01.home.domain.com
looking at it, it seems i would need more domain controllers to do this, requiring more RAM which i do not have
thorny vector
@cedar igloo Its a nice way to keep stuff segregated, especially if you want to set up different user permissions for each domain, then establish a trust between the two, but for what I think your network size is, it'd be overkill
little schooner
@cedar igloo you don't need mroe domain controllers for that, just add the domain to your current DNS server manually and it should work fine
If your talking about auto registering devices to DNS, then yeah probably need another domain
crimson otter
Aight so I got my Ubiquiti Edgerouter X set up as a switch but once I do that I can't access its gui. Any ideas? I've spent most of my day trying to make it so I can access its gui to no avail, but I'm open to suggestions! (Please ping when responding, am busy boi.) Its internet connection is being provided by my main router. I'm not an expert in networking so looking for some help.
@bright forge Did you make sure it can show the gui in switch mode? check the manual, see if its on DHCP so you can find it.
bright forge
To my knowledge in the settings it says DHCP - Gain the DHCP settings from the main router or connection or whatever. And to my knowledge it can because there are forum posts talking about setting up management ips but I can barely understand them.
crimson otter
did you reset it yet while connected with the router on port 1?
it should be any port but to be sure
bright forge
I physically have been resetting it when I lose access to the GUI. (To try again.)
I disconnected all Ethernet cables from it when resetting
crimson otter
go back to step one, factory reset and go from there
bright forge
I can't rn cause I have it setup as a switch rn and it still distributes internet from its current settings, so people are using it right now.
(Sorry if I repeat things or sound stupid lmao I'm barely waking up.)
nocturne harness
Is there a reason why you're using your Edgerouter as a switch?
It's very ineffective as a switch... none of the asics are built for that
bright forge
I just need it to distribute internet, and when on basic settings once I plug internet into port 0 it doesn't distribute internet and I lose access to the GUI.
Setting it to switch was basically a temporary fix till I had time to work on it again.
nocturne harness
You set it up using the basic setup wizard?
bright forge
🤷 I mean yeah, it's hella customizable and I'm not that smart.
nocturne harness
There's nothing wrong with using the wizard, I was just wondering 😉
Ok so, let me understand this. Reset -> basic setup -> plug internet into eth0 -> GUI stops workings?
bright forge
Yes
nocturne harness
What was the address you were using to access the GUI originally?
When you complete the basic setup you should restart the router, and then the IP address of it will change
bright forge
Standard 192.168.1.1 which might be conflicting with my main router but I'm not exactly sure how to change it and when I try it seems to have no effect.
Basic setup reboots the router at the end.
nocturne harness
you cannot have two devices on the same network with the same IP
The reason why it breaks when you connect the "internet" is because the Edgerouter discovers that it's next-hop on the WAN is also (what it thinks to be) itself, and that breaks the routing table (this is a rather simplistic model of how it works)
Is the other router from your ISP?
If so, can you set it to bridge mode?
strong tusk
Is there any benefit with a server using multiple socketed xeons, heard you can use up to 8 at a time with some modern ones/not sure how true that is, compared to like that one epyc that has like 128 threads and can only run dual socketed?
bright forge
It's the main router in the apartment which to my knowledge was replaced after the ISP one was having issues. It's not in my place but at another Tennant's place so I mostly access it from its page on 192.168.1.1. I could probably directly connect to it but not at the same time as the Edgerouter does (as in the Edgerouter won't be connected to the internet connection) cause we only received one Ethernet connection from it.
nocturne harness
Gotcha
I would just change the address of your network then
like the one that the edgerouter is creating
I think that would solve your problem
bright forge
Yeah just not quite sure how.
nocturne harness
On the dashboard configure the interface to have a different IP address
bright forge
I've tried changing the access ip under switch0 (which is defaultly 192.168.1.1) and I can add access ips that work but idr my results when removing the original
nocturne harness
You probably want to create a seperate network, I wouldn't operate it in switch mode
Actually just reset it and use the WAN+2LAN2 wizard
I think that would solve your issues?
bright forge
Okay
nocturne harness
might need to change the IP address it sets, but that can be done from the landing dashboard
bright forge
I'll try that next time I'm able to work on it
Thanks for the help, I spent 5 hrs on it yesterday and was feeling frustrated
vapid dune
oh god egderouter as a switch
nocturne harness
Yeah no worries, I've had my fair share of annoyances using my edgerouter
Their forum is quite responsive and helpful
vapid dune
I find most of the time solutions can be searched
as long as you aren't trying to do anything too crazy
bright forge
I didn't realize having it as switch was bad
vapid dune
which kind of edgerouter is it?
bright forge
X
vapid dune
oh I think that one can do line rate switching
bright forge
Que?
nocturne harness
@vapid dune oh can it?
vapid dune
the ERL, on the other hand, can't
vapid dune
bright forge
Just googled line rate switching, I understand now
nocturne harness
I would still suggest not running it as a pure switch
Because I don't think you want to share a network with your tenant
bright forge
Yeah no
vapid dune
yeah if you want isolation then vlan per port is easiest
otherwise you'd need some kind of vlan aware switch lol
jovial oyster
Is anyone able to help me here? So i have an issue that started a few days ago my ethernet just randomly stopped working, it says it is connected but no internet access. I know it is not my router because my brother is connected through it and has no issues. I have tried reinstalling the NIC drivers with no success and have even done a fresh windows install. The odd part of all of this is that my ethernet will just randomly start working again for hours without issues for it to randomly cut out again for hours.
bright forge
I don't know how/what that is, blue
vapid dune
try a different cable @jovial oyster
jovial oyster
@vapid dune i have still no success
vapid dune
the router will route across by default, but yes
nocturne harness
Not a hard segregation for sure, but would eliminate the more simple (discovery) issues
Uh, no it wont?
vapid dune
it does on my ERL lol
nocturne harness
hm
vapid dune
but dunno maybe I cleared out rules or something
or maybe it's a wizard setting I didn't tick lol
bright forge
@jovial oyster you could legit run troubleshooter (if on windows) for your internet and I've once had it genuinely say what's wrong and then automatically fix it, worth a shot imo
nocturne harness
The masquarade on WAN should prevent it
Are you talking about across two networks like eth1 and eth2 and not eth0 wan (I assume)?
vapid dune
yeah
jovial oyster
@bright forge i just did and it says the default gateway is not available and it was not fixed
vapid dune
I mean it's been a little while since I tested it. I'm just using a single port and single switch these days
nocturne harness
You probably don't have any firewall rules between your internal networks
vapid dune
that would be my guess too
nocturne harness
and there's no masquarade which is like a firewall light
bright forge
@jovial oyster go to command prompt and do "ipconfig /release" and after it does that do "ipconfig /renew" and see if that works
nocturne harness
Before that I would just try ipconfig and see what it prints
see if you're actually getting an IP address from DHCP
jovial oyster
So I did what Pathally said and now it kicked me off my wifi
bright forge
Reconnect to the wifi then, didn't realize you were on WiFi and not Ethernet (I shoulda asked)
jovial oyster
My ethernet is plugged in but I was on wifi since the the ethernet wasn't working but it won't connect to the wifi now it says it is connected but no internet
bright forge
Does it give you the option to connect to wifi or no?
charred meadow
What's the output of running ipconfig from command prompt?
jovial oyster
I can connect to wifi but no internet connection now
When I did the ipconfig/renew it came up with unable to contact your DHCP server
bright forge
I assume you have tried restarting the router?
charred meadow
Without /renew
bright forge
Well cezar if it can't contact the DHCP he's not gonna be receiving an ip
jovial oyster
Both the ethernet and wifi don't have a default gateway
bright forge
Id recommend trying to restart the router as the simplest approach atm
jovial oyster
I have restarted and updated the router
Its odd my brother is connected through ethernet to the router and doesn't have these issues
bright forge
If you still have some way of accessing it's settings can you make sure it's DHCP is enabled?
charred meadow
If you are missing a default gateway your computer does not know how to access the internet. Your brother's computer must still have it.
jovial oyster
So I'm in the router settings and the DHCP server is enabled
bright forge
thats odd
vapid dune
have you tried a different port on the router
jovial oyster
Yes I have
charred meadow
What settings are available, is there a default gateway field?
vapid dune
have you tried a different computer (or ethernet adapter)
bright forge
This is where my knowledge ends, im not much help from here and ive got work to do
jovial oyster
Yes there is default gateway field but its empty
bright forge
I hope your issue gets fixed and thank you blue and grass from the help with my issue
have a good day
charred meadow
Set it as the ip of the router.
jovial oyster
Yes me too and thank you @bright forge
bright forge
Actually there is one thing i can do
if you need help i can guide you through how to do what cezar said
bright forge
basically to set your default gateway to your router's do this: Ethernet settings -> change adapter options -> double click your ethernet adapter -> properties -> fine ipv4 and click -> hit properties, then put in the settings shown.
(The last digit of the top section saying IP address: can be anything below 254 as long as its not 1 iirc)
basically your doing what the dhcp would normally do for you
jovial oyster
Wait I'm confused so do I use those exact numbers in the screenshot
bright forge
you can if you want
the subnet and gateway are going to be the same
you can change the last digit of the ip address at the top if you want but leaving it to my example shouldnt have any issues
jovial oyster
so i tried putting in exactly what you have in that screenshot still no luck
however im back on wifi
or for those settings should the default gateway match the router?
charred meadow
Did you set the default gateway in the router?
jovial oyster
i did set the default gateway in the router
vapid dune
at this point maybe just try statically assigning yourself stuff in windows
I mean you can copy all of your wifi's ip settings and change the IP for your computer. it should work. and if it doesn't then you have other problems
charred meadow
in your computer's ipv4 properties set it to automatically get the ip. Then renew your ip again.
jovial oyster
which is just ipconfig/renew correct?
bright forge
ipconfig /renew
and when cezar says to set it to automatically get the ip you basically do as you did when setting the custom stuff but reselect both tickboxes for Obtain IP Address / DNS automatically
\
jovial oyster
ok ive done that now im just waiting for it to renew
charred meadow
Did it work?
jovial oyster
This is what comes up
So those 2 wireless lan connections are wireless controllers
vapid dune
"unable to contact your DHCP server"
try a static ip. if that doesn't work
you need a new NIC
lol
charred meadow
Is the wifi default gateway 192.168.50.1?
jovial oyster
yes that is correct cezar
i have ordered PCI e ethernet controller aswell because thats what i had thought
charred meadow
At this point I'd just statically set the ip
"Ip addr": "192.168.50.somethingnotInUse",
"subnet mask": "255.255.255.0",
"default gateway": "192.168.50.1"
In the ipv4 properties that Pathally had sent.
jovial oyster
so ive done that but still no internet access however it has identified the netwrok
would it make sense that it is my NIC even if it will randomly connect and work for hours again?
so since it wasnt working with the static ip i set it back to auto and it seems to be working again
bright forge
alright
thorny vector
I just finished setting up pxe boot for redhat, ESXi, and windows. Never again.
@jovial oyster And it looks like you didn't have DNS servers set, that's why internet wouldn't work, but intranet would
For static config
little schooner
@thorny vector isn't that easy with something like ipxe
thorny vector
Yes. I, in my infinite wisdom decided do deploy it with windows deployment service. Modified to use syslinux. So windows was easy to set up, all my windows OS's. ESXi was also pretty easy, just requiring a small modification to the boot cfg. Redhat, on the other hand....
Suffice to say, not well documented
little schooner
Oh you did it the MDT way
Yes much harder
Or rather more time consuming yeah
Searching for those hard to find examples or config docs yeah
thorny vector
All hand configured by trial and error. The best documentation was for centos 7
Which I know is essentially the same as rhel 8, but enough small differences to matter
little schooner
It's the one where you don't pay for support which is good for my wallet
thorny vector
Maybe, I think 1 physical. I don't remember, mainly because my only physical hosts run esxi
rocky badge
@clear igloo put NVME ssd back in sever, vmotioning vms to it https://blob.pcmr.rocks/BabyishPhonyBlob.png
clear igloo
@rocky badge Setup HA? 😛
rocky badge
Lol
little schooner
It's hyper annoying when reddit goes offline
keen ermine
I missed out a lot
I went from downloading at 11-12 MB on steam to 28-29 MB with wiring changes to my dad's cable
little schooner
@keen ermine yes the wired life is the good life
keen ermine
I was already on wired
little schooner
I misread
keen ermine
its just my dad set me up for 100 Mbps Full Duplex
little schooner
Yeah should be gig minimum
keen ermine
I wanted 1 Gbps Full Duplex on both Cat6 (non-A) and Cat5e
Note to self: Cat5e better to make the lines. Cat6 is prone to cut the copper wires with the spin plastic cut
little schooner
Use cat6a
little schooner
Yes free is good. My professor would always say that
I would tag a specific user after such a statement but that would be annoying
rocky badge
Cat6 is fine
timid fiber
I use Cat5 for 1gbps
it works fine
i tried 10gbps switch with cat6 only, and it works also fine too
rocky badge
I ran cat6 in this house
only gigabit NICs for the RJ45 based stuff, but I have my server and PC on SFP+ (using OM3 fiber)
deep patio
Hello,
I am trying to debug my connection problems with Steam Remote Play. I would like to verify that my network switch/ hardware is performing as one would expect.
- gigabit switch
- two computers with gigabit cards
When I do a ping test from one computer to another across the switch, I get a response time of 4ms.
Is this a reasonable result?
Is this a stupid way to try to figure out what I want to find out?
thorny vector
Yes, that's reasonable. No that's not a stupid way to check for connectivity
Literally what you should do first every time 😛
rocky badge
4ms a little high, no?
thorny vector
Yeah. A tougher test for latency is iperf
deep patio
That's what I was thinking..
thorny vector
ignore that
deep patio
iperf; gotcha. Is there a quick apt command?
rocky badge
sudo apt install iperf3
deep patio
Thanks guys. Would you guys be just as surprised as me if the unmanaged switch between the devices is the problem?
rocky badge
@thorny vector Alpine
rocky badge
@deep patio I don't see why it would be an issue
nocturne harness
Unmanaged switches are pretty simple, so generally they "just work"
Though I did have a Netgear switch that was DOA so it happens
thorny vector
Or if you find some UART pins 😄
nocturne harness
Network problems are the bane of a computer scientist--I've had some of the weirdest issues caused by network connectivity
rocky badge
Lol
thorny vector
@nocturne harness Network problems are my job security 😉
nocturne harness
Like we've had "resilient" services knocked over because of switching fabric issues
rocky badge
working
smh /s
nocturne harness
They make for some of the most interesting postmortems though 🤷♂️
@thorny vector 😬 so sorry
I remember being in a technical bridge once where one half of our cisco switch died
But it didn't report as dead in iOS
Instead it would randomly introduce packet loss
But of course, none of this presented as instead what we saw was service A, which hit service B through this switch, went down
thorny vector
It's not so bad. We did have one day where we all of a sudden had all of our switches in our data center start port flapping. It went on for a solid hour and a half before it stop, and just acted like nothing happened. The closest we got to figuring out what happened was a single MAC change.
nocturne harness
So as we're trying to diagnose service A, and then service B, everything seems fine
We have no issue connecting since every server is connected to both half of the switches, and we happen to be going through the function half
@thorny vector I was a network field technician for the largest school board in NA between HS and Uni... never again
I love networking, but I love it from over here, not over there having to actually do it ;P
thorny vector
I do it in the military, so its not bad. I'm more of a dual hat infrastructure/security guy
thorny vector
A mix. My days of deploying are over though, part of the reason why I changed over to doing cyber stuff
nocturne harness
Gotcha, how do you enjoy the cyber stuff?
thorny vector
Loving it. Part of the reason why I invested into my homelab so much.
nocturne harness
haha, any excuse is a good excuse for a homelab 😉
thorny vector
I've been able to weasel licenses back home to my lab, now to try to figure out how to make them give me all the decommed stuff
hollow marlin
Virtual lab or bust 🙃
thorny vector
EEEEEEEWWWWWW, SaaS
nocturne harness
There's something just fun with handling physical gear tho
hollow marlin
Dealing with it for years...nah..
rocky badge
I use loads of SaaS
hollow marlin
If you want to lab virtual is the way to go
hollow marlin
EVE-NG ❤️
rocky badge
I'm a VMware guy lol
nocturne harness
App virtualization is great, don't get me wrong
rocky badge
thorny vector
Behold my small lab, and despair!
nocturne harness
I am a strong proponent of containerization
thorny vector
I think containers have their place, but will never replace VM's
rocky badge
AWS Firecracker
hollow marlin
Agreed
rocky badge
Isolation and security like a VM, low usage and usage like containers
Using the standard linux KVM
nocturne harness
The whitepaper on firecracker is super interesting
thorny vector
Is it similar to how vmware did VIC?
nocturne harness
was featured on the morning paper
nocturne harness
I hope those urls aren't addressable 😛
rocky badge
internal
nocturne harness
@thorny vector I'm not familiar with VIC, apologies
If anyone wants a brief on Firecracker 🙂
thorny vector
@nocturne harness No biggie, I don't know many who are. VMWare made a middleware between vsphere, and container hosts, using ubuntu as the container hosts.
thorny vector
Yep
nocturne harness
Kubernetes or bust 😤
rocky badge
Lol
thorny vector
I haven't gotten too much into the container game to be honest. Just enough to be familiar, and I have my own little manage cluster I use for some applications, but I much prefer VM's, whether its because of familiarity or how robust they are.
rocky badge
I cut ~20GB worth of VMs down into containers
nocturne harness
Containers kinda have an entirely different mindset than VMs
thorny vector
@rocky badge Yeah, but what if you start having to serve a lot of traffic all of a sudden?
rocky badge
Like hastebin, librespeed, etc
nocturne harness
Ideally, if you're designing a containerized app you should have first class support for resilience to container fault
nocturne harness
And you should be designing an app to be horizontally scalable
thorny vector
or have stronk vm that has much ram and compute /s
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And waste resources?
nah
That's the thing with cloud and containerization, save resources
And stuff like AWS is not drop shift and drop
if you're gonna use AWS, don't bring shit over and only use EC2 and stuff
Take advantage of AWS's platform
nocturne harness
Yep, otherwise it's a very expensive endeavour
it's why the forum isn't on AWS--there's not good way for us to containerize
thorny vector
That's the part I really can't stomach, being reliant on other people's resources
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you are though
thorny vector
All the applications my lab relies on are mine, and mine alone.
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I've done a lot of work in finance and that's a pretty common theme I hear
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and where did that power and Internet come :^)
Like, I host a lot of shit at home
But some stuff I do not want at home
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If you're willing to leverage automation, there's so many resilience benefits to using cloud
It's like, should you store your most important documents at home or in Google Drive?
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Right 🙂
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Synology backs up to Google Drive
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Google Drive
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It's not gonna burn down accidentally and lose everything
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thorny vector
My own self hosted cloud, and tape drives 😉
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Google backs up to tape too 😉
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Hope you're following strict backups
Including offsite
Plus, Google Drive is easy, fast, and safe
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It's interesting to see the decisions banks are making post-katrina
thorny vector
Offsite at my mother's, and enough backups to rebuild from scratch
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Home Assistant, UniFi, Synology, UNMS, My PCs, etc all backup to Google Drive
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That huricane was a real shock that running your primary DC in southern Manhattan might not be the best idea
thorny vector
all of my hosts have a portion of storage reserved for a worst-case scenario. And if I lose everything at once, I figured I'm gonna have other problems I'm going to have to deal with
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I'd rather not lose any of my data, it's valuable :p
hollow marlin
At work SaaS=devil, at home SaaS=love. Let it all be in the cloud if I can not have to fart around some more after work
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My backup regiment is slightly different, all my important documents are cloud sync'd in relatively real time to iCloud, and then Timemachine'd to my backup server locally
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And the backup server is the home media and backup server--if it dies all I lose is my full time series backup (not catastrophic) and media
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76.7TB of data cost for iCloud
😂
I've got G Suite business rn, so it's just $12/mo for unlimited Google Drive
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Oh good call
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I abuse the shit out of it
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I just have 50GB of iCloud
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Ah
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It's only the important documents
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50GB wouldn't be enough for photos <_<
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photo backups go to Adobe
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1TB?
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yessir
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noice
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I don't have that many photos, I cull them regularly
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LOL
ngl I don't use my real camera for any of my familly stuff
they get my iphone which goes on my photostream to icloud
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We use a mixture
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and then we use shared iCloud albums
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Phones and DSLR
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fairrrr
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If I do take familly photos on DSLR i'll export them and put into my photostream
I like having my familly photos easily accessible 🙂
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Yeah
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and my phone regularly offloads the Lightroom app cause I'm low on space LOL
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I've got all of my photos going to Google Drive, Synology, and Google Photos
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Sounds resilient
Hehe, I remember when I got a DC tour at work
We have a tape robot
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nice lol
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but it comes in an enclosure
thorny vector
I just want to take a moment to say how much I appreciate the language here vs in Tech Support
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The MDF at school at school is redundant... but only in the same room
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So we had to get NY Fire Marshall to certify it
It was the smallest "room" they have ever certified and required its own fire alarm pull, even though it's a robot
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The MDF has the primary DC, core routers, main fibers, etc
There are other DCs across the district
but the MDF at the high school is the master
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@thorny vector 😬 yeahhhhh, I agree, great convo 🙂
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I really want them to improve on disaster recovery and redundancy lol
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Haha don't get me started with DR
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if the high school goes down, the NAC goes down, the internet goes down for the entire district, etc
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We have a DR-1 policy
which means we need to be resilient for a DC fallover and a rack failure in the failover DC
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the remote access VPN is only at the high school as well...
hollow marlin
@rocky badge Improve of redundancy? You need to implement it to improve on it
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🤣
hollow marlin
lol
nocturne harness
lmao yeah that's an ouch
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Lemme pull up an email
Good Afternoon Students,
The District is experiencing an issue with student devices connecting to the internet from off campus. The appliance controlling the offsite filtering has failed and all attempts to revive it have been unsuccessful. The vender is shipping a replacement unit overnight and we hope to have offsite filtering up and running again by tomorrow evening.
Thank you for your patience and sorry for the inconvenience.
The school board I worked for agreed to let Cogeco use our locations as POP
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the remote access VPN was down for 2 days
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And in exchange we let them run 10Gb/s+ POPs if they give us free connections
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10 Gig between schools and the high school
From ENA
the fiber is actually Spectrum Enterprise
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4 Gig burst to 5 Gig WAN
hollow marlin
What are they using for filtering?
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4Gbps/4Gbps WAN burstable to 5Gbps at HS, $150,000.00/year
1Gbps/1Gbps metro Ethernet HS to freshman campus, $18,000.00/year
10Gbps/10Gbps metro Ethernet HS to 14 sites, $630,000.00/year
ContentKeeper
ContentKeeper filtering, ContentKeeper cache, ContentKeeper VPN
Extreme Networks NAC, Extreme Networks switching/wireless
Cisco ASRs for core routing
Extreme Analytics (purview) for packet mirroring/sniffing/logging
forest phoenix
Does anybody here have any knowledge with Ubiquity Edge Routers by that i mean i am trying to set the dns to catch a domain like www.domain.com and redirect to a local ip on the local network
this is probs wrong chat
thorny vector
lol, this is probably the exact right chat
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They say Purview logs data and they check it
but if they did
They would've seen suspicious stuff from me lol
ContentKeeper does try and block VPNs though
But Wireguard over HTTPS/WSS isn't easy to find
hollow marlin
Give it a few years and SSL/L7 inspection will be dead anyway
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Does anybody here have any knowledge with Ubiquity Edge Routers by that i mean i am trying to set the dns to catch a domain like www.domain.com and redirect to a local ip on the local network
@forest phoenix you can setup static maps in the GUI wizard
4Gbps/4Gbps WAN burstable to 5Gbps at HS, $150,000.00/year 1Gbps/1Gbps metro Ethernet HS to freshman campus, $18,000.00/year 10Gbps/10Gbps metro Ethernet HS to 14 sites, $630,000.00/year
@rocky badge holy shit y’all pay more for 10Gbps links then we did for 20
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rural area :p
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Haha makes sense 😂
hollow marlin
I mean $3,700/site for 10gig metro is not actually that bad
thorny vector
@forest phoenix that's for mapping a device to an IP
You need to find where the DNS records are, or configure your own DNS server
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Bahahaha
forest phoenix
i really want a domain
Like i have a dedicated server
However i can't afford windows server
That's expensive
thorny vector
server 2019 has free 6 month license that you can extend multiple times 😉
forest phoenix
yea but 😂
thorny vector
Totally worth it, so many services
forest phoenix
i really want the domain features
all my computers like laptops and all that
are windows 10 pro
and one is enterprise
so i can get on any and pick up from where i left off
thorny vector
It might be silly, but I can't imagine not having my domain at home anymore
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github education
then get azure for edu
which has those licenses
no credit card needed
forest phoenix
it wont let me upload proof of enrolment
well
imma look into it
and if i do it ill do it over the weekend becaues i have to work today
because*
thorny vector
coffee>sleep
hollow marlin
^
Im pretty sure I drank so much caffeine over the past few years my body has learned to produce it
forest phoenix
Also this is my first ever server cabinet done all the wiring or all the ports my self and never done it before
How’s it look?
nocturne harness
Order cables sequentially
For the aesthetics
Far left on faceplate goes to bottom left, 2nd goes to top left
Etc
😋
That one cable going across them all is throwin me
forest phoenix
Okie
vapid dune
fiber ninja would not want you to put equipment between the patch panel and the switch
vapid dune
o.o
that sounds like an expensive mistake
lol
but I guess if you need it then you need it
forest phoenix
I mean like
I can also use it to cover practicals
For my tafe study
Where I have to do windows server stuff
vapid dune
oh they didn't give you some kind of msdnaa account?
vapid dune
oops it's an old old old name
'"Microsoft Azure Dev Tools for Teaching" program, formerly known as Microsoft Imagine, formerly known as Microsoft DreamSpark which is formerly known as Microsoft Developer Network Academic Alliance (MSDNAA) program'
I generated a pile of microsoft licenses before I graduated
forest phoenix
Um