what's the use case?
#networking
vapid dune
green compass
ZFS on FreeNAS and Zfs on Linux have different implementations, they are not same codebase
They are different
vapid dune
oh you want to import a zfs pool from linux into freenas?
green compass
Well I'll just stick with Linux, I can use Foreman then
vapid dune
I mean basically freebsd is moving to ZoL so freenas is as well lol
green compass
No
OpenZFS
is FreeNAS zfs implementation
They arent moving
ZFS on Linux needs to catch up with some features
Brb gotta let my dog out to take a piss
green compass
FreeNAS 12 has yet to come out
green compass
I'll stick with RHEL 7 and not risk anything cause I dont have backup
vapid dune
just interesting to know they're converging
green compass
Ok I think I got entire list of stuff that I need to do, this is gonna take good week or two of hard work
waxen scroll
@little schooner when is professor installing intent based networking?
little schooner
@waxen scroll possibly never
vapid dune
lol this is "nice" but kinda painful too if you think about it
how the hell do you even service it
LOL when he flips on the lights. I expected RGB https://youtu.be/A9kJPqmS6ME?t=750
ripe citrus
Why the fuck would you need a Electrical Closet?
vapid dune
huh? where do your wires go
ripe citrus
Breaker box
vapid dune
I think this guy has home alarm + sprinkler + sauna
ripe citrus
Oh okay
vapid dune
generally agree though. I just have a breaker box in a closet
but I'm in a townhouse lol
ripe citrus
Same
vapid dune
lol interesting "daisy" chain of plugs
but personally I just have a power bar in my network panel and some short extensions
dense karma
i gotta find a use for my new switch
little schooner
vlans
halcyon sandal
Anyone here know anything about FreeNAS? Looking for some help...
vapid dune
Sure what's up @halcyon sandal
halcyon sandal
@vapid dune Thanks. Ok,...
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Ok, I've got a home NAS setup. Specs:
FreeNAS OS installed in 120GB SATA SSD. 3x 2TB HDD's in ZFS.
version 11.2.
There's an update, but it won't install for some reason.
Here's the thread I made for the issue on the ixsystems forums that explains more details about the issue: https://www.ixsystems.com/community/threads/trouble-installing-updates-will-not-update.81202/
I'm pretty new to all this NAS stuff, so any help would be great.
vapid dune
Who ever asked the DNS question, CF doesn't return any records for that domain
@halcyon sandal can you resolve domains in the freenas shell?
deep cargo
@vapid dune edit hosts file if you want to resolve specific DNS locally
@halcyon sandal unless you have a specific requirement where you need ZFS, EXT4 will likely suit you fine
craggy parcel
The hosts file doesn't scale well, and is not possible on most mobile devices....
deep cargo
Also, is the SSD for the FreeNAS OS or cache?
dawn forge
hi guys, is there a way to convert a regular wall socket into a PoE injector and still have a plug available?
vapid dune
Power plug? lol
dawn forge
how would that be PoE?
clear igloo
PoE injector + a multi socket is about the best you'll get
dawn forge
@clear igloo thanks, unfortunately it's next to impossible to pass cables inside the house
clear igloo
Yah, you need something to do the negotiation or passive PoE limitations but you still need something to step down the voltage and whatnot
green compass
Alright I finished update RHEL DNS/DHCP VM, got it working on 8.1 with some small issues and I swapped for FreeIPA as DNS server @craggy parcel
also created instead of one VM I did 2 VMs for fail tolerance
vapid dune
2 VMs on the same machine?
little schooner
@vapid dune yeah if it's that, there is no fault tolerance
green compass
@little schooner Why is there no fault tolerence on 2 FreeIPA nodes ?
Its just like Windows AD with 2 Domain controllers
vapid dune
because it's on the same machine
green compass
that is true, but I doubt R720 will fail anytime soon
vapid dune
if that's the case what's the point in running 2 instances
green compass
if one breaks during updates that internet doesn't go out
vapid dune
hmm not sure how freeipa works but in general don't people use floating IPs for HA?
green compass
idk I followed what Red Hat documentation suggested and what FreeIPA wiki said
little schooner
@green compass I'm pretty sure that's only if you have two servers
Otherwise a takedown of one system brings everything down regardless
green compass
hmm, now I wonder
should I move to AD and Windows implementation
of DHCP and DNS
I am not afraid to jump into Powershell
I wonder if that will be better
I also decided to consolidate VMs into 2 node Docker Swarm cluster
for stuff like
little schooner
But do you actually have two nodes?
green compass
Not physical
I have virtual
I plan to run in Docker Swarm: Plex, Radarr, Sonarr, Traefik, qBitTorrent, Gitlab, Calibre-web, some development stuff (node.js servers, go servers, flask serves and Postgresql databases)
vapid dune
are the docker nodes actually physical?
vapid dune
o.o
green compass
I run hypervisor and virtualize everything
on R720 there is
CentOS that runs oVirt single node
I can slide in servers later and build up a cluster
but atm, CPUs and memory don't even break a sweat
vapid dune
I think the point of multi nodes is hardware redundancy usually
green compass
it can software also
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Traefik π
vapid dune
I mean yes also software failure
green compass
Updates tend to be shitty
vapid dune
but if it's already virtualized, just take snapshots
green compass
yes
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it makes shit so easy. https://blob.pcmr.rocks/d2858eea.png
green compass
Uhh, drives are kinda limitation
in Dell
I have RAID1 for SSDs that are large 250 GBs
Also I don't want downtime, I would rather prefer 2 VMs that are "clustered" for fault tolerancy
rocky badge
I'm running a Rancher env at home and in the cloud
green compass
I plan to use Ubuntu LTS or CentOS 7
rocky badge
Then for virtualization, I'm using vSphere
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rip
green compass
from SUSE to VMware Photon
rocky badge
ooooh
green compass
and I couldn't access my servers on web
and I didn't know how to enter ESXi command shell
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I need to fix my SSO π
green compass
What would be better for DNS/DHCP server
Windows or RHEL
I run RHEL with dhcpd and FreeIPA, upgraded yesterday
from RHEL 5
to RHEL 8
rocky badge
I use Windows Server since it integrates with AD DNS lol
green compass
I run MacOS / Linux environment at home
manage*
that coupled with school kills me
green compass
My dad seted it up first with ESXi then while we were doing upgrade of vCenter, it shitted bed and we switched to CentOS oVirt
rocky badge
nice π
green compass
Its actually really good
rocky badge
Most of the "core" network https://blob.pcmr.rocks/4be3ed0c.png
green compass
Our router is actually that RHEL 8 VM now, we have ISP one but my dad doesn't want to get any routers right now
with additional capabilities
rocky badge
My networking is all Ubiquiti
and I won't switch π https://blob.pcmr.rocks/c651241a.png
green compass
We have that RHEL VM as router and HP 1400-24G as switch, if I had to buy networking gear I would go for HP again as switch, Unifi APs and idk what router
rocky badge
I would buy UniFi router, UniFi switch, UniFi AP π
rocky badge
ESXi 2 is an old 2950 that I don't have much shit on, ESXi 1 is a 6700 16GB of RAM
Most of my forward facing stuff is in the cloud
green compass
what services do you run ?
rocky badge
Bitwarden, Gitlab, Minio, Home Assistant, Speedtest for public
Active Directory, vSphere, UniFi management
green compass
I plan to run on new Docker Swarm cluster:
Gitlab, Plex, Sonarr, Radarr, Jackett, Nextcloud, Headphones, Calibre-Web, LazyLibrarian, Traefik, Pihole, OpenVPN, Airsonic, Jellyfin (so we don't need Plex pass for transcoding), Tautulli```
Then in VMs I run Windows Server 2019 with Docker Windows containers for game servers, 2 RHEL 8 VMs that run FreeIPA and dhcpd and finally I have NAS that runs RHEL 6 with ZFS, netatalk and Sambanice π
rocky badge
I'm using my USG as a L2TP IPsec VPN
and then Pritunl on a Joe's Datacenter dedi for OpenVPN
green compass
I hope you never upgrade DHCP/DNS server without documentation, it was nightmare for me cause whole internet relies on that VM
rocky badge
lol
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Yeah
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yes
@clear igloo worst web server, change me mind /s https://blob.pcmr.rocks/a39dd823.png
clear igloo
I concur
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vapid dune
Let's encrypt is pretty good but I guess you need to use the DNS way
craggy parcel
@vapid dune Multiple servers, even virtual on one box, can also be used for loads that only scale out, where throwing more hardware at the VM wont increase capacity. Another VM on the same box, will increase capacity, with no additional hardware needed. π
How many workloads that fit that description, I don't know. Could also be used to comply with silly requirements like multiple DNS serveres, that DK-Hostmaster had a while back, for .dk domains. (Actually I think they still do, but not sure if they accept anycasted servers)
vapid dune
Fair enough. Though DNS isn't exactly load balancing lol
craggy parcel
Very true.. But a load balancer will do the trick.. But then again, how are you balancing the load balancer.. Argh! π
vapid dune
nothing a load balancer can't fix
dawn forge
do shaped wifi access points exist?
craggy parcel
@dawn forge Shaped in what way?
dawn forge
as far as I know they usually send signal in a 360 degree arch, I would only need a 90 degree one, funny shaped house
craggy parcel
Oh.. Just get one with a directional antenna, or with the option to install one yourself.
I think the antenna type used for cellphones are in 45 or 90 degree segments.
vapid dune
why do you want it only 90 degrees?
vapid dune
lol it isn't going to be any cheaper or better really
maybe just position the AP more centrally?
dawn forge
@craggy parcel thanks
@vapid dune not possible to put it in the middle, wiring is not easy to change in my house
vapid dune
lower the transmit power?
craggy parcel
Well, it CAN improve coverage distance, as the signal is more focused, with the same power. But if the clients will be able to reach the AP is another thing.
vapid dune
really though I use my ap-ac-pro mounted vertically on a wall
but they're more traditionally mounted horizontally on the ceiling. it's not supposed to cover the floor above (but it would)
I don't think you're gonna get any money savings by trying to find a perfect 90 degree signal range
never seen anyone use this before but apparently it exists: https://www.ui.com/unifi/unifi-mesh-antenna/
https://prd-www-cdn.ubnt.com/media/images/product-features/unifi-uma-d-feature-directional-2.jpg
craggy parcel
Yeah, but the benefit may be limited, as clients will still use omnidirectional antennas, and they might be able to see the AP, without the AP being able to get the traffic from them.
little schooner
@craggy parcel so in other words, if both ends use directional, then maximum benefit can be achieved right?
craggy parcel
Yeah, I'd say so. If the antennas are aimed correctly. But that's only really useful for fixed links, and in my opinion you need a pretty good reason to do that wirelessly, instead of just running a cable.
vapid dune
wait do you need point to point wifi? o.O
because there's certainly point to point options
craggy parcel
If you need to handle mobile clients, directional antennas can do more harm, because clients can think they have a strong signal, but the AP with a directional antenna, will not be able to pickup the clients signal when they get too far away. So using directional antennas for anything but point to point fixed links, requires that you know exactly what you're doing, to make sure you set the signal levels correctly, but it can make it easier to handle more clients, and reduce interference. The downside is the high level of skills needed in radio communications to do it right. For most just mount the AP's as the guide says they are intended, either on a wall or ceiling, and forget about it. π
vapid dune
agree
dawn forge
not appropriate for me then, wouldn't be able to pull it off, still a nice option
vapid dune
what problem are you really looking to solve? aside from the perceived "efficiency" and/or cost benefit
craggy parcel
Yeah, what would be more appropriate for you, might be AP's with the option of both servicing clients and linking other AP's to improve coverage, if you can not cover the entire area with a single AP, and cables to any other AP is not an option.
vapid dune
I mean there's also mesh with dedicated backhaul if you absolutely need to do wifi
dawn forge
for some weird reason my signal is less than half at 3 meters (1 wall) and almost non-existent at 6 meters (after a second wall)
vapid dune
what kind of wall? 6 inch concrete?
dawn forge
it's inside a house, as far as I know it's a single line of bricks
vapid dune
5Ghz?
dawn forge
yes
vapid dune
I think that's to be expected tbh
5Ghz doesn't penetrate that well
run some ethernet, add another ap is probably the best thing to do
dawn forge
that's the issue, wiring is next to impossible it seems, at least last time I tried... very small channels inside the walls, couldn't fit
craggy parcel
Powerline adaptors?
dawn forge
that's my next attempt, buddy of mine has some spares
craggy parcel
Some of them, I think requires a common power phase, to work correctly, while others don't....
dawn forge
ye, I want to try first, see if it works
vapid dune
I mean you can drill through concrete though it's extreme...
craggy parcel
I've got no experience with them, myself. But some has a lot of problems, others has none. I think most problems was with the earlier models. When it was a new thing. Most today should be quite stable.
Or drill between the bricks.
vapid dune
ah yeah, I don't have any personal experience with powerline either. I've heard it works for some though
fresh copper
At one of the places that I used to live, I couldnβt even get 2.4 too far outside of my room since the walls were solid concrete. It was annoying because I couldnβt even get wifi in the bathroom. Itβs not like the wifi was very good at all though since there was a ridiculous number of APs there with each being a different network
craggy parcel
Well with 1 AirPort express and 1 Time capsule I can get full coverage in my ca. 100 m2 apartment, however, they are placed basically in opposing corners, and has to penetrate 1 concrete wall each. Before installing the 2nd AP I only had coverage in about half the apartment.
fresh copper
On my parents house, I have two APs installed and it gets to almost the whole house. Itβs a pretty large house too. That house has quite a bit of concrete. I think the difference is that that house is a lot more open and the signal does not have to go through the concrete walls at an angle. In the other place I mentioned, you just one door down the hall and suddenly itβs going at an angle through two concrete walls
craggy parcel
Yeah, that's why I prefer wired networks. π
vapid dune
lol I pretty much wire as much as possible. unless it isn't
my chromecast is wired .-.
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craggy parcel
@rocky badge Do I see a TV and a laptop there?
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Yeah
craggy parcel
Wirelessly connected?
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Yes
craggy parcel
Not good. π
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Β―_(γ)_/Β―
it works
The AP is literally behind the TV.
It's fine
And my laptop doesn't just stay in one spot, plus I don't have USB C to Ethernet.
craggy parcel
Hehe.. Yeah, well, Wirelessly I can't even get a 4K YouTube stream to work on my TV... Works perfectly wired.
craggy parcel
I also have allmost full speed on my TV, but the stability kinda varies enough to prevent YT use.
I think I get about 200 MBit with the SpeedTest app for the TV.
Also they AP and TV are in the same room, about 2-3 meters apart...
rocky badge
0 issues with buffering or stuttering π
craggy parcel
I think the problem might be the 10+ other networks I can pick up...
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Most of the stuff around my house is just cars
craggy parcel
Hehe.. They probably don't have much 2.4/5GHz interference...
near axle
i have a pretty bad network
one device is connected via ethernet, everything else is apple APs around the house connected wirelessly
rocky badge
I get roughly 980/990 internally, but that's because there's no other device on my network with 10 gig.
halcyon sandal
@vapid dune I'm not sure what that means, nor how to do that. Sorry, lol. Like I mentioned, I'm a noob with this stuff.
I know how to access the shell, but I don't know how to "resolve domains".
trail grotto
Just got a new router and can no longer connect to my pc it bugs sometimes it wants to work other times it donβt like on my phone it works fine but my pc is a different question any suggestions
vapid dune
what do you mean connect to your pc?
little schooner
@vapid dune I dig dig
halcyon sandal
@vapid dune Output returned "connection timed out; no servers could be reached"
vapid dune
yeah you need to change your dns servers in freenas
set em to something like 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
or your router
halcyon sandal
ok
vapid dune
that should solve it
halcyon sandal
@vapid dune Ok, I'm not quite sure how to do that in shell or in the web GUI. I found the service to turn on dynamic DNS, but that made no difference. I looked in the FreeNAS manual for the DNS settings, but it's not clear to me, what to do...
charred meadow
It's under network - global configuration. The setting is nameserver.
waxen scroll
@little schooner i delete startup-config
clear igloo
@waxen scroll Don't forget to format flash π
warm path
hi, im looking for some info about QoS
- what happens if i dont add device in 'QoS rule list'? will this device get my full internet speed or what?
- if i set high priority to 50%, i'll get only half speed (regardless of network usage)? or this rule will apply only when my network is overloaded?
little schooner
@warm path 1. well, I would assume so
2. It will ensure that 50% of the bandwidth is available exclusively to the device during congestion
@waxen scroll I did a format flash before and forgot to tell prof
well, he chucked it as a defective unit
so I was safe.
hollow marlin
@warm path all devices that fall under QoS will get full speed. QoS is only for congestion
vapid dune
@halcyon sandal see the global network config above
waxen scroll
@hollow marlin logic
halcyon sandal
@vapid dune Ok, I set the primary DNS to 8.8.8.8 and secondary to 8.8.4.4. Still the same, no connection.
And I disabled the dynamic DNS service. Should I leave that on or off?
halcyon sandal
@vapid dune Nope. same. No connection.
clear igloo
lol
vapid dune
Maybe try the repair network in freenas cli @halcyon sandal
Your networking is broken
halcyon sandal
@vapid dune Ok, I'll try and look that up. Thanks. No response from anyone yet on the ixsystems forums, which is frustrating. :/
rocky badge
I have a 10 gig nic
the storage on the server side is nvme, does around 3.5GB/s reads.
the clients are gigabit, mixed hdd/ssd
the clients should be pulling 3gbps
Since there are 3
Which all saturate Gigabit on their own
I tried http
And that didn't work
It still maxes at 1.5gbps
little schooner
How is your storage formatted
is it a raid volume or storage spaces or something?
rocky badge
no
rocky badge
yes
little schooner
hmm thats how I have mine too
hmm....................................................................................
barren tide
Is there anyway to diagnose whether connection stability issues are hardware side or ISP side?
craggy parcel
@halcyon sandal Try to ping 8.8.8.8 or make a traceroute to that IP. My guess is that your freenas does not have the gateway configured correctly.
@barren tide Switch to known good hardware, if it does not solve the problem, it's on the ISP side. π
hollow marlin
Would like more context rather than just blaming the ISP
waxen scroll
@hollow marlin logic.
halcyon sandal
@vapid dune @craggy parcel Yep, that was it. Friend of mine who works in networking also suggested setting the IPv4 gateway. Set it to the router IP and that fixed it! π Thanks for the help.
dense karma
is freenas easy to use for dumb dumbs like me ?
vapid dune
it's not too hard to use
most of my settings are default
I think the biggest decision you'd need to make is how you want your drives to be and how you want to expand in the future @dense karma
what I do is mirrored vdev. meaning I add 2 equally sized drives at a time to my pool. at the cost of 50% capacity
dense karma
humm cuz the server iam gonna try using it on only has 4 drive bays XD
vapid dune
some people do 5 drives with up to 2 failures (so raid z2). but then you'd need to buy 5 identical drives (or non-identical but it takes on the smallest capacity)
ah I see
I mean you could move the hardware into a bigger case later too
but 4 drives doesn't give you too many options up front. lol if it's z2 with 4 drives that's the same 50% useable space
if it's z1 then you'd get 3/4 usable space
also if you look online, you can ignore a bit of the ram recommendations for home use. 8GB ram is enough
assuming you're mostly just throwing files on it, and stuff like torrents
dense karma
ahh yea there old dell power edges i dont remember the exact model but i think they old currently have 4 gb of ram
vapid dune
I think for zfs 8gb is the minimum recommended
halcyon sandal
I'm running 3x 2TB drives in raid Z. If one fails, no data loss.
Only down side is less capacity (just under 5TB for my setup).
vapid dune
should be 4TB heh
but either way z1 is okay if you have small-ish drives and not too many per vdev. but for larger ones I'd go with z2 if you're going that route
vapid dune
there's probably some compression involved too really
might be some good info below https://serverfault.com/questions/634197/zfs-is-raidz-1-really-that-bad
I'd also highly recommend a small SSD for the boot drive
halcyon sandal
Built it on a budget and suits my needs well. And yes, I have an SSD for boot drive. π
vapid dune
I was using z1 initially, I switched to mirrored to add drives more easily xD
since I can just buy a couple matched drives. well I was using unmatched at one point. I had a 3tb paired with a 4tb for a few months
halcyon sandal
Cool. I might do that later on when I start to run out of space, lol.
dense karma
Wows
vapid dune
I will likely take out the 2x 1TB and then add 4 more drives to max out the bays in the case
halcyon sandal
nice
vapid dune
waiting on some decent shuckable drives. those 8-10TB are tempting
dense karma
Lol I am gonna be have I think itβs 4x40gb drives XD
dense karma
Old old
vapid dune
if you care about the data, maybe use mirrored drives in that case xD
dense karma
Lol itβs just a test to begin with
Iβd fill that in about as fast as the drives could write that data
vapid dune
you can swap drives in and out reasonably easily
ex if I had 3x 3TB 1x 4TB in mirror so only 6TB usable and I bought 1 more 4TB. all I need to do is plug in the 4TB, then swap out the 3 that's paired up with the 4 to get a resulting 7TB
(and then a 3tb floating... but I guess you could keep buying more drives lol)
people have used that to expand their array too. eg 5x 2tb drives in z2. then you slowly swap out drives 1 by 1 until you have 5x 8TB (but you can only expand capacity once you have 5x)
though I think it's more typical to just go crazy and keep buying more and more drives π
if you're looking for hardware on the cheap, I'd go with some of these guides that point you to options on ebay: https://forums.serverbuilds.net/t/guide-nas-killer-4-0-fast-quiet-power-efficient-and-flexible-starting-at-125/667/5 I'm quite tempted to go and buy some really like one of those SuperMicro X9SCM
strange silo
@rocky badge You need to get SMBDirect support
With that I've done ~9Gbps on a single NIC with SMB
dense karma
@vapid dune Iβll be back in like a half hour with my severs XD then I can try and figure this out
vapid dune
hah have fun
if they're actual servers, I really like IPMI
remotely messing with the bios is so nice
dense karma
Yea they are actual servers just hoots get them from storage
little schooner
@strange silo how do you turn that on? Is mine already on if I'm getting the full speeds?
halcyon sandal
Another question for you guys...
Data transfer speeds between my NAS and devices on the local network are SUPER slow.
Router is a D-link DIR-822. Most devices are connected via wifi.
ornate jungle
2.4GHz or 5GHz wifi, and if 5GHz, in the same room, or in other rooms of the house?
halcyon sandal
It's dual-band, but struggles with 4 or 5 wifi devices connected at the same time. Quite often one or the other band will randomly drop out, and I have to switch to the other to continue using the internet.
I have a 5GHz range extender on the ground floor. The router is on the 2nd floor. Signal strength is quite good in the whole house and even out side around the house.
Just transferring data from a laptop to the NAS, for example, is really slow.
vapid dune
how slow is super slow?
I mean if it's wifi you're probably experiencing either interference or a bad AP too
if it's an "extender" that isn't wired it'll likely half the bandwidth by default
halcyon sandal
~2.7MB/s
That's on the 2.4GHz, not the range extender.
just did a test file transfer.
waxen scroll
its cause your neighbors are using your channels
halcyon sandal
Lol, I'd like to see them try.
waxen scroll
they can, its so easy. i switched to an AP that can use radar channels
no more issues.
halcyon sandal
Closest neighbour's house is a good 700+ ft away.
Live on a 200 acre farm in the middle of nowhere.
waxen scroll
maybe you have other 2.4ghz interference from other devices π€
halcyon sandal
Planning to get a Ubiquity AP to handle the wifi traffic.
The NAS is wired though.
waxen scroll
i live somewhere where homes have some distance to them and i still get penetrated by all kinds of 2.4ghz from other homes. i had speed issues like you
dense karma
remeber Bluetooth is on 2.4 as well
waxen scroll
for 5g now my neighbors arent even close to me cause they dont have the latest APs
the left and right are trashed
vapid dune
If you have clear channels go ham on the channel width @halcyon sandal
That should speed it up too
Though those speeds are abysmal lol
Maybe check with your phone and wifiman
halcyon sandal
halcyon sandal
vapid dune
Oh you're in Canada?
halcyon sandal
Yep
ornate jungle
I'd be doing speedtests first on both 2.4GHz and 5GHz networks to make sure your WiFi can even deliver faster speeds in the areas of your home where the file transfers appear slow.
halcyon sandal
Yeah I don't know why it shows 2 for each.
halcyon sandal
I think it's the range extender.
vapid dune
To be fair I'm in a congested area and my speeds are ~200mbit on my phone on 5ghz
ornate jungle
One is the base network from your router, the other is coming from the range extender.
Unless I misunderstand your networking setup.
halcyon sandal
BC the distance is 2m for one and 17m for the other, which makes sense.
vapid dune
I would have thought the extender should be on a different channel
What if you turn off the extender and try closer to the AP
halcyon sandal
But the speeds are far faster than the data transfer to the Nas...
Yeah, I'll have to try that.
ornate jungle
That's what I would do - turn off the extender, connect directly to each network, then run speedtests. note these speeds. then try running file transfers, again without the extender. be in the SAME ROOM as the router.
rocky badge
What interference π
2.4 ain't bad either, only one other WiFi that isn't mine.
and they're on 6, i'm on 1 and 11
rocky badge
80Mhz 5, 40Mhz 2.4 π
vapid dune
lol I'm in a congested area and some idiot is using 40Mhz on 2.4
halcyon sandal
But even when connected with the range extender it's showing far faster transfer speeds vs moving data to the Nas...
rocky badge
rip
vapid dune
that's weird
halcyon sandal
Could it be ram limited on the Nas?
vapid dune
how much ram? what's in the NAS?
rocky badge
What if you did iperf?
vapid dune
I mean really spinning rust should be able to handle 1 gigabit easy
halcyon sandal
yeah
halcyon sandal
@rocky badge How do I do iperf?
rocky badge
install iperf3 on the server/client.
halcyon sandal
Is it an add-on for freenas?
rocky badge
Server:
iperf3 -s
Client:
iperf3 -c <SERVER IP>
looks like it's pre installed
So just install it on your client.
halcyon sandal
ah ok
vapid dune
that'll test more network throughput but yeah
halcyon sandal
Ok, installed on my laptop
vapid dune
you can use iperf3 on windows fyi https://iperf.fr/iperf-download.php#windows
rocky badge
Well, yeah, to test the network throughput to see if it's network or disk/freenas bottleneck
vapid dune
useful to figure out my Pi3 was only "gigabit"
halcyon sandal
says error unable to connect
vapid dune
you need to start the ipref server on one machine
halcyon sandal
and the nas is mounted at the moment.
vapid dune
and the iperf client to connect to that machine
halcyon sandal
ah
vapid dune
but yeah pi 3b is fake gigabit .-.
vapid dune
hmm now you can try that without the extender at various ranges
and then try with various channel widths
rocky badge
@vapid dune NIC is Gigabit, sharing the USB 2.0 bus with USB.
rocky badge
lol
vapid dune
ugh on 5ghz my neighbor is running 5 APs on the same channel
little schooner
Use a different channel
vapid dune
oh I am
but he's using a mesh system in a similar sized place as me
I'm using 1 AP to cover my entire place (and then some)
vapid dune
he's running 40Mhz on 2.4Ghz
little schooner
Oh, that uses so much more spectrum
little schooner
Did you try sending deauth to his aps
halcyon sandal
@vapid dune That was on the 2.4
vapid dune
I mean mostly it's the wyze cams that are on 2.4. and I kinda wish they supported wpa enterprise
rocky badge
I wish more of my IoT stuff supported 802.1X
halcyon sandal
5ghz
waxen scroll
theres no reason for it to support 802.1x
vapid dune
hmm actually as a sanity, try on something other than the NAS as a server
waxen scroll
i dont even see why you have 802.1x even in your home network
vapid dune
because wpa2 is broken
waxen scroll
or AD period
i want 0 responsibility for managing family computers or playing helpdesk for AD issues
π
vapid dune
that's okay for you
but I would like that support for my own stuff lol
I want to do my vlans more easily without multiple SSIDs and what not
waxen scroll
im talking about blob, who im pretty sure involves his whole family in his tests
halcyon sandal
5ghz on the router standing right beside it.
halcyon sandal
Same result on 2.4
vapid dune
I think more so to figure out if it's your nas or just your wifi that's the issue hah
halcyon sandal
wired, same laptop.
waxen scroll
lmao wat
waxen scroll
OMG someone made an AC router without gig?
vapid dune
go out and buy a ubiquiti ap and something like ERL or ER-X xD
rocky badge
@waxen scroll wouldn't be the first one i've seen
vapid dune
I assumed that if the router supported "High speeds of up to 867Mbps (5GHz) and 300Mbps (2.4GHz)"
it would be gigabit enabled ports LOL
rocky badge
lol nope
waxen scroll
rocky badge
wifi server /s
waxen scroll
for the lazy
halcyon sandal
lol
waxen scroll
it supports ipv6 too, thats just so sad
vapid dune
agree lol
if you want easy, go full unifi
USG + 8 port switch + AP
oh right you'd need a switch with an ERL
waxen scroll
do it ghetto and make them all into a bridge
halcyon sandal
What's ERL?
vapid dune
edgerouter lite
lol or if you're ultra lazy and have cash to burn https://store.ui.com/collections/routing-switching/products/unifi-dream-machine I'm kinda curious about it
waxen scroll
i kind of want it for LULz but my house isnt set up for that type of thing
i need an AP
vapid dune
ah yeah
waxen scroll
seems a waste to buy an all in one
halcyon sandal
So basically, router is garbage? lol
vapid dune
there was an ethernet port conveniently above head height in the middle of my first floor
yup
even a gaming router would be better than that router lol
waxen scroll
my network cabinet is in the basement, so wifi from there would probably suck :3
halcyon sandal
Get a router with gigabit and a ubiquiti AP?
vapid dune
unless you got a switch and you were doing it between wired connections on the switch
depends if you've got a good place to mount the AP imo
I mean I'd say yes, and it would be better than what you have now
halcyon sandal
I do.
vapid dune
and if you can mount it more centrally than it's even better
halcyon sandal
ok. Thanks again for all the help. Learning a lot. π
Yeah, I can mount the AP in the stairwell which is right in the center of the house.
vapid dune
if you aren't doing anything super complex. the USG is probably pretty good option for wired router. but you also need a switch lol
I'd probably just get a cheapish tp-link switch to save money
the ap-ac-lite is a good choice on the cheapest ubiquiti ap side I think
halcyon sandal
I only have 2-3 devices wired, including the nas.
halcyon sandal
I can always get a switch, like you said, if I need more devices wired.
yeah
OK, well I have a game plan and know why everything's so slow now, lol.
vapid dune
I think I just mean that the USG, ER-X, or ERL all require a switch. they don't have switching capabilities lol
halcyon sandal
Thanks again.
vapid dune
np have fun xD
halcyon sandal
Indeed. π
vapid dune
it's funny because I didn't think to look until I was like "wait it's dlink"
"how bad could it be?"
halcyon sandal
lol
halcyon sandal
Alright, so I'm going with the ER-X and UAP-AC-LR. Prices are actually much less than I expected.
Says the ER-X can do switching.
vapid dune
hmm it can, but I think it might be slightly slower (but still much faster than your current setup)
halcyon sandal
yeah, it's fine for my humble usage, lol
vapid dune
drawback you should know about the ER-X and ERL. it's a bit clunky to set up if you want to do stuff that's more complicated
halcyon sandal
I'll just keep it simple.
halcyon sandal
Getting more familiar with all this stuff.
vapid dune
how fast is your internet btw?
vapid dune
lol I mean it'll be at least limited by your 100mbit port!
halcyon sandal
On a good day, 15-16mbps down, 2up.
vapid dune
btw you don't necessarily need a LR AP I think
halcyon sandal
No, I do need the LR AP.
vapid dune
eh
halcyon sandal
I need it to work out in the shop outside the house.
vapid dune
it'll be limited by the transmit power of your devices I'd think
I could be wrong about that point though
seems like it's more about antenna sensitivity
halcyon sandal
Could be. but it will still be better than what I have now. If it works further outside, bonus.
Also, our house is OLD.
1850's farm house.
Not a typo.
vapid dune
halcyon sandal
Thicc walls and solid beems in this sucker.
vapid dune
I mean if your place is particularly large, maybe 2x Lite at opposite ends of the place instead
my advice would be to get it off amazon, then return it if it doesn't do what you need π
halcyon sandal
It's not large. More square shaped.
vapid dune
best to just try it out and see what happens lol
halcyon sandal
And just solid af.
vapid dune
at least it's wood I assume?
halcyon sandal
Yep.
vapid dune
better than the guys who come in here with brick
and then there's reinforced concrete lol
or "brick" that's actually like 6 inches thick
halcyon sandal
I mean if this crappy router can work through these walls (mostly) I think the LR will do really well.
vapid dune
hmm more so I don't think you'd benefit from the LR over the Lite or Pro
little schooner
I went with the LR for my dad's house
hollow marlin
LR just has a bit db send/receive. If your devices doesn't have the power to send it won't help
little schooner
Works great for outdoor doorbell
halcyon sandal
And the lite is like $20 cheaper than the LR.
Ah I see.
Do you think the lite would be stronger than the wifi on my current router though?
little schooner
@hollow marlin there is a conflicting article somewhere that says that it doesn't really scream louder but it does tricks to the radio signal to make far away clients more stable compared to their other lines
vapid dune
moving the AP from one side of your place to the middle alone should help a lot
little schooner
The LR model
vapid dune
that's the part I'm actually getting conflicting info about @little schooner
little schooner
@vapid dune unifi does something different with it
vapid dune
seems like it depends the older or newer LR revision even lol
hollow marlin
@little schooner radios are still limited to regulations
little schooner
That isn't standard
I didn't measure how much sqft of my dad's house but
Once he cut into the copper wire
Wifi started to go crazy again
vapid dune
I think LR is designed for a large open warehouse from the various places I'm reading
hollow marlin
LR is pointless marketing for Ubiquiti
little schooner
I guess
vapid dune
I would say just go for a lite lol
halcyon sandal
This is the one I was looking at: https://www.amazon.ca/UBIQUITI-UAP-AC-LR-Unifi-Long-Range/dp/B01E9MYG9K/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=uap-ac-lr&qid=1578197493&sr=8-3
hollow marlin
Mikrotiks are the only ones that will gain the extra sensitivity
halcyon sandal
Well, our staircase is smack in the middle of our house, so mounting the AP there would cover the whole house well, and then some. Just not sure if the lite will suffice. I assume it would.
little schooner
@halcyon sandal well if it makes you feel any better, I did the same thing. Mount in middle stairway and I am getting 40 mbps outdoors too
Idk if the lite would of reached but
vapid dune
I mean if it's 20 bucks you might as well just get LR
little schooner
I know the LR will still work
vapid dune
and there may or may not be benefit
little schooner
Get whatever was cheaper
vapid dune
either way you can just adjust the power if the far far devices can't get a reliable connection
(so that they won't even bother trying to connect)
little schooner
Buy from Amazon and return if you don't like it
little schooner
They added free electronic returns this year. But I think that means free for items returned for reason "did not want" or similar
Depending on the reason, you are charged fee or not
But that should be scrapped now
vapid dune
huh never heard of that. but I'm in Canada
halcyon sandal
The lite is $116 on amazon.
The LR is $136 on amazon.
both free shipping.
I'll just go with the LR and know that it will be more than enough. π
vapid dune
lol
I mean you're not losing either way
don't forget to use rakuten for some cash back π
halcyon sandal
Oh?
vapid dune
usually 1-5% back. I take mine in the form of amazon gc
pays out quarterly assuming you meet the minimum threshold. I think 20 dollars?
I buy a lot from amazon .-.
halcyon sandal
Cool. I'll look into it, thanks.
vapid dune
you just log into rakuten --> open their amazon link --> then add stuff to your amazon cart and buy it
strange silo
@rocky badge Linux SAMBA supports SMBDirect
All you need is RDMA on both ends and it'll generally work, most storage arrays with up to date firmware support it and Linux/BSD do
craggy parcel
@halcyon sandal That kind of issue is the exact reason why I use DHCP for everything. π
clear igloo
@waxen scroll " CGNAT is not a proper addressing no matter how you want to twist it, period! "
" Yes it was, there is a reason why even the range is called private. It was never meant to be used by IPS's. And honestly it should be made illegal. "
waxen scroll
what did i just read
clear igloo
Someone arguing that CGNAT should be illegal because gamers can't port forward
waxen scroll
i havent really seen CGNAT outside of cell networks
dude should just get a real isp xD
clear igloo
Europe and Asia use it like crazy
craggy parcel
@waxen scroll It's quite popular with newer ISP's where I live, as they can not have enough IP's so avoid CGN.
waxen scroll
@clear igloo my company has a circuit just so we can keep the public IPs that came with it
rocky badge
@clear igloo when sites block the public IP from a cellular provider using CGNAT.
So the people sharing the one public IPv4 address can't access the site because someone got that IP blacklisted.
clear igloo
@waxen scroll lul
waxen scroll
@rocky badge that'll teach them to post on sites like 4chan which ban
rocky badge
lol
Well, if the site supports IPv6 and bans via IPv6, it's fine
Since everyone gets their own v6 addr.
clear igloo
/48 for everyone! π
rocky badge
I actually wondered why Discord wasn't working yesterday when I was messing with v4. lol
My PC only had IPv6 access. YT, Google, etc all have v6. Discord doesn't do v6 and only allows v4.
clear igloo
rip
rocky badge
clear igloo
Nice π
rocky badge
@hallow nimbus oof on my plex, all of the movies from your plex are recommended
hallow nimbus
Whahahahha
waxen scroll
I may recruit your assistance at a later date. You can choose not to when I ask at that time.```$200/hr dont screw this up @hollow marlin
hallow nimbus
Btw @rocky badge https://bluecrazii.nl/images/hQ4WZJoT6C.png
rocky badge
Yeet
hallow nimbus
Thats my pc π
rocky badge
Same here lel
hallow nimbus
Both my servers also have one
clear igloo
why?
rocky badge
Why what lel
clear igloo
why sad?
rocky badge
Because the switch doesn't have any other 10 gig links
clear igloo
ah
hallow nimbus
π
clear igloo
oof
jaunty talon
RE: CGNAT, the gamedevelopers and console manufacturers should really fix the requirement of needing port forwards.. It's completely stupid that you would need port forwards to play games with your friends in 2020 :D
little schooner
@jaunty talon yeah like forza. Multiplayer doesn't even work for me when NAT is in use
@rocky badge can you enable traffic inspection and still get full bandwidth?
rocky badge
Not on the USG 3p
UDM PRO does ~8-9Gigabit IPS/IDS
none of the USGs do IPS/IDS at their line rates
little schooner
@rocky badge from one port?
Or full load
That's still good for internet facing
rocky badge
one port
jaunty talon
I guess that depends on packetsizes also
And IPS/IDS without mitm is not worth much either, as most of application traffic is encrypted today :)
hollow marlin
@clear igloo that thread gave me a migraine reading it before I left on my flight
clear igloo
RIP
waxen scroll
@jaunty talon i caught my company security team MITM our network
they werent happy that i realized
they decrypt gsuite and other things
@clear igloo i have no forum account, i just looked for lulz
you should get an enterprise network section made and stay in there
vapid dune
"caught"
waxen scroll
i dont run browsers that IT can mess with
such as trusting CAs that i dont know about
it basically warned me the second that started happening whereas a corporate browser wouldnt have
hallow nimbus
NOt much traffic @rocky badge
hallow nimbus
Thats better
rocky badge
it's pulling ~70Mbit/s right now
rocky badge
rocky badge
blame SMB
hallow nimbus
Tru
rocky badge
I've got a max of 2gig to the server
hallow nimbus
I have gotten 5.5Gbit max
hallow nimbus
What is it transcoding >?
Need sum cores ? https://bluecrazii.nl/images/hwdjRjUdUD.png
hallow nimbus
Lmao
jaunty talon
@waxen scroll I can buy that companies does that to some extent, as they want to know what traffic is in their network and what is done on company computers. Even tho I would never do that at my company :)
waxen scroll
i called them out for not asking legal, potentially violating PCI and HIPPA and was basically told "the computer use policy says we can do it"
hallow nimbus
LOL
waxen scroll
i was like OK, but you should reallyyyyyy talk to legal and compliance
if they were processing European traffic in this manor, i believe thats even illegal...
we have a europe but its not processed by this infrastructure
the problem is the policy allows for personal use of the machines, so email, health info, etc is flowing and being decrypted
little schooner
What should I do if I need to create a free account for pfblockerNG in order to use GeoIP list for a small business?
Do I have them make it and manage it?
rocky badge
@hallow nimbus https://blob.pcmr.rocks/d89723b7.png
wtf
I'm just playing via VLC now
and it's fine
keen sorrel
@little schooner did you say you have setup Pfsense a bunch before?
little schooner
@keen sorrel as in reinstall it on different hardware yes
keen sorrel
@little schooner did you have to implement vlans on it?
little schooner
@keen sorrel for my previous college's lab yes
Trunking one port with multiple vlans
keen sorrel
Do you remember what rules you implemented on the firewall to allow the lan/vlans to access the internet?
little schooner
Yes, when you make vlans, it gets its own ruleset as well under firewall
You must create pass rules for the vlans interfaces
keen sorrel
So the rules I have setup isolate my vlans like I want, But the only way I can get to the gateway and out through the internet is to allow a rules where the source is the vlan and the destination is "Any". The problem with this is that this completely overrides my previous rules I set up to isolate my Vlans from each other and lets devices talk to each other, Any suggestions?
@little schooner Sorry forgot to tag you, see above π
little schooner
@keen sorrel yes. Put your block rules first before your allow rules to internet (which is destination of any)
By the time it reaches the Any rule, you would of already blocked all access to local network with an earlier block rule
@keen sorrel to make it easier, pfsense let's you make a named group of several IP network (192.168.1.0/24, 10.0.0.0/8 for example). Call this "LANS". Then when you go make the firewall rules, you can reference this group in block rule. This saves you from manually typing a block rule for each different ip network.
One rule can apply to all your local LANS this way.
That just an example though. You would tune it to your specific needs of what networks go into the named group.
keen sorrel
Brilliant!
ripe folio
hey guys i have a quick question, i just brought a 10m ethernet cable (cat7, yes i know cat7 isn't standard) and i was wondering if there will be any significant signal degradation and if routing the cable in straight lines would decrease it? π
little schooner
@ripe folio since it's shielded and everything, the only limitation is the 100m limit. It can run in loops, circles, the Bermuda triangle formation and still work fine
ripe folio
awesome thank you π just had to be sure ya know hah
little schooner
Yeah no problem
fresh copper
I finally got the Ubiquiti FlexHD that Iβve been wanting (itβs basically just a different form factor for the nano HD). Itβs really cool and works very well. I decided to rename my network too. I now have my wifi network called βWired LANβ
waxen scroll
kay
waxen scroll
its weird that the description mentions wall, but not ceiling
yet theres marketing with it on the ceiling
fresh copper
The ceiling mount is optional and costs exterq
I mostly got it over the round one because it fits better on the shelf where it needs to go
This one also looks a bit better in this situation. I think the normal ones look a little weird on a shelf. Either would have been fine though
little schooner
@fresh copper flex HD looks pretty fine
fresh copper
So far it works pretty well!
dense karma
i figured it out couldent figure out how to share it but i did
vapid dune
Ah okay
The sharing is pretty flexible
And most people just create a bunch of datasets on their pools
Basically folders
dense karma
ahh yea it will probably be much easer to use when i am not doing it on a vm
vapid dune
I think the biggest thing to figure out is the disk situation. But after that I just use 1 pool with a bunch of datasets for different purposes and then share parts of them out
Were you thinking about using plugins/services?
Hmm other stuff to configure is running scrubs often enough and smart tests regularly
dense karma
prob not just want a network drive really
dense karma
yep
vapid dune
I mostly use mine for storage and overnight downloads
Never needed reencoding
So it's an atom cpu xD
dense karma
i cant remember whats in my servers and i also cant find them XD
dense karma
no sadly cant network to it but is some how lost 4 servers
dense karma
idk man you tell me
vapid dune
lol do you live in a mansion
dense karma
no
vapid dune
I can barely lose a sock in my place
Like I can't even drop a sock in my bedroom and lose it
dense karma
i can lose something i had in my hand 30 seconds ago
vapid dune
There's no space for it to go under my bed
dense karma
i lost my mothers birth day gift for like 3 days to her finding it in my dirty cloths hamper
dense karma
my server is most likely going under my bed thill i get a rack then idk where its going
so it might end up getting shut down when i am trying to sleep
once i find them iam gonna see if i can upgrade them at all
vapid dune
Hmm. I think the advice is to just leave it on 24/7 lol
But you might not be able to sleep
dense karma
Yea they a wee bit loud
Lol ive done it before but they where on a dresser across the room
thick minnow
I need to put another router downstairs in my house.
But I can't run an ethernet cable through the attic.
Got any suggestions?
Can I use a cable splitter to run a second cable to the built in wiring in my house?
Then at the receiving end, hook up a cable modem to the cable outlet going through the walls?
cobalt cradle
cant use just use a extender? ik there are even extenders with built in ethernet ports
little schooner
@thick minnow if it's coaxial cable, generally speaking, ISPs will only give you one modem to be active. If you want another one active, they will charge accordingly
thick minnow
Yeah I mean coaxial cable.
The house has coaxial cable already run through it.
So could I reroute the cable coming into the modem to the input for the entire house?
The plug in a modem upstairs and downstairs.
I would buy my own modem.
I would not use my ISPs provided modem.
little schooner
@thick minnow yeah, but still, you can only have one modem active without paying more
If you just want to move it to a better centralized place, then yes it will work fine
MoCA is also a thing but it never worked for me
thick minnow
But I have computers that need to be connected via ethernet.
I have one upstairs and downstairs
little schooner
Yes, so you should really run new copper cable instead
In the attic or something or use wifi extenders
thick minnow
I can't tear the walls up
little schooner
@thick minnow so I recommend wifi since powerline is rarely reliable
thick minnow
The way the attic is designed, I cannot reach the bedroom where the router and modem are.
If that was the case, I'd just run cat 6 ethernet cable through it down through the wall to a switch downstairs
little schooner
You need to get the modem unplugged
Then you can use a new modem. Somewhere else
thick minnow
What do you mean?
little schooner
Well I'm not sure if your isp would like to see two modems connected to the coax line at the same time
thick minnow
But I have a work computer upstairs where the modem is that needs to be connected to ethernet.
little schooner
Or if that's okay and they can just activate your new modem by Mac and ignore the other
@thick minnow how do you know that it needs to be connected to ethernet?
Is the workload sensitive?
thick minnow
Yes.
thick minnow
My machine downstairs has no WiFi.
carmine moss
You could convert your your internet to run on coax but it's a big challenge
thick minnow
My work told me to never use the machine for work when it's connected to WiFi.
The problem is, I've bought 3 different brands of those.
little schooner
@thick minnow I wonder if they say that to prevent employees from flooding helpdesk
thick minnow
But the overheat and break.
little schooner
@thick minnow yeah the USB adapters are hit or miss I've found
The only reliable ones are the pcie cards
thick minnow
No, I work for a call center. Which means I have to redirect calls when I see them incoming.
little schooner
I see
thick minnow
If the WiFi lags a little, I'm screwed.
little schooner
Yeah don't want that.
carmine moss
The newer USB ones are decent better then they use to be but pci-e ones are wat better
thick minnow
How fast could one of those be?
Cause I'd Iike gigabit.
Which I what I'm upgrading to
little schooner
I mean, getting gigabit over wifi isn't common
thick minnow
My router is gigabit
carmine moss
Yeah gigabit on wifi is a no no unless you spend a lot
thick minnow
Why?
little schooner
Because interference is a real problem
thick minnow
My Asus router says it's capable of it.
little schooner
@thick minnow over a wire but even then it's probably like 978 mbps
carmine moss
You need expensive hw to be able to have a chance and it needs to be in the same room
little schooner
Yes gigabit wifi is like if you are in the same room as the access point
5ghz only
AC or better
thick minnow
How much would my machine pickup.
It's just down the stairs from my bedroom where the router is.
little schooner
@thick minnow that depends on the walls and distance the computer is from Wi-Fi
Hard to say without being there
At my home, 5ghz passes through my drywall easily
By the time I get to basement, speeds and signal disappear because concrete
Thiccck
thick minnow
But it's safe to say that it'll be better than the 175 mbps I'm getting down there.
I pay for 120 mbps, I get 175 mbps downstairs on the 5 ghz
Over ethernet I get 175
thick minnow
I have to download 20+ gigabyte files quite often.
So I'd really like to get as fast as possible.
little schooner
@thick minnow so for that, you should have an access point down in that room
To guarantee the fast wifi speeds
carmine moss
Run a cable to the room and get access point
thick minnow
I can't though.
little schooner
@thick minnow range extenders will never be as fast
thick minnow
Not through the attic.
little schooner
It halves your speed each extender
thick minnow
Cause the attic doesn't extend over my bedroom
craggy parcel
@jaunty talon With the requirement for portforwarding, you can have players connect directly, instead of having to send it all through a server somewhere, which does improve latency. So low latency, or no port forwarding? Also really ISP's should just get IPv6 deployed. It's been about 10 years, since the problem of IPv4 runout was obvious, and I think IPv6 was kinda standardized in the late '90es...
carmine moss
See what you want is only available if you can run a cable to your attic
carmine moss
You say there is a coax run to the attic right that you could use? That isn't in use atm
thick minnow
There is coaxial already run though the house.
carmine moss
You could convert your lan to go over that coax and have a switch and RJ-45 to coax adapter but would be expensive