@hollow marlin not with many firewall rules it seems
#networking
little schooner
But it got me to realize that Edgerouter isn't truly stateful and that's the reason why it can use asic to forward packets so fast at line speed with weak cpu
Offloading involves disabling its ability for connection Tracking
Which explains why I need to allow related and established rule
So at this point, it must be a pipe dream to expect firewall rules or QoS to be offloaded to asic and cheaply?
hollow marlin
@pseudo blade unless its in production in anyway its still useless
GPUs are still not ASICs, they can do more than one type of task
@little schooner Mikrotik on the prosumer end do connection tracking, firewall rules and simple queuing on hardware and some of it is in software.
Its referred to as Fasttrack/fastpath and is offloaded to hardware. very limited in configuration wiggle room though
pseudo blade
I got a ping and it was deleted? @hollow marlin
hollow marlin
Shoudlnt have been ๐คท
pseudo blade
Hm. Strange.
distant wedge
Did a lil bit of work before the weekend at a new hospital. Hope you guys like this :)
clear igloo
@distant wedge 
It's amazing!
distant wedge
Thanks @clear igloo! I'm still a junior but being able to take the reins was really really fun. I left the fiber at the top to the pros but did all of the Cat6 :)
distant wedge
@hallow nimbus They had to be spliced into the cable trays
hallow nimbus
Oh then its hard ๐
distant wedge
Lols, I wasn't trained on the splicing tools and stuff, I'm still waiting, but I leave that to the senior cable techs. I know how to dress and terminate in the patch panels, so that isn't much of a big deal
waxen scroll
we found a better way of doing that type of cabling in cable trays
way faster IMO
they make a braided kind of split loom. you premeasure the run (dont need to be 100% accurate). you then take 8 boxes of cable and pull that length. you then put the cables inside the split loom. then you toss the splitloom on the tray
0 wire management needed. less than half the velcro needed
end result
hallow nimbus
๐ ๐
little schooner
@waxen scroll looks very fun and ocean like
odd idol
^
burnt epoch
trying to figure out home networking without doing a lot of damage to walls, etc. just wondering if anyone has success utilizing existing coax line runs to fish through CAT lines? A quick youtube search didn't net anything. Was all MoCA talk.
waxen scroll
theres no reason it wouldnt work, however maybe some suggestions....
use fish line to start and pull it through, then use a puller tool to grab the cable and the fishline to pull the tool
also sometimes coax goes from wall to wall, if it does you might be screwed
burnt epoch
Yeah. I guess I'll have to go to the attic to confirm if that's the case.
waxen scroll
if you're doing it from the attic, it might just be a straight drop down... good to check anyway
burnt epoch
Luckily, I only need it in 1 or 2 rooms. So as long as those two aren't wonky I should be fine.
waxen scroll
last one i did was on an outside wall and i had to open it and patch it ๐ฆ
burnt epoch
Oof.
Well thank you for the help/suggestions. Now that it's cooling off I can finally head into the attic and do this.
little schooner
@waxen scroll I'm guessing that there is no way of escaping from making holes in a home for running wire outside?
waxen scroll
think about what you just typed
almost nobody has existing conduit to outside thats not high voltage
little schooner
@waxen scroll that silver thing outside right?
Where the utility company connects
sage hare
hello is this router decent https://www.tunisianet.com.tn/switch-routeurs-point-d-acces/31964-routeur-sans-fil-n300-adsl2-avec-4-ports.html
or DSL-124
Dlink DSL-124
sage hare
mate
thats my only choice
not even joking
i looked in many cites
i live in tunisia
and no i cant import
i only realized that it was the only option after i asked here
is it better than ISP router? huawei hg532e
@finite mango
finite mango
Jesus
sage hare
so no point in changing?
little schooner
There's nothing wrong with dlink
I have two of them and not a single time had they gone offline
deep verge
@sage hare what do you need form it?
if you can, use ethernet, it will save you from many issues.
deep verge
is it a modem combo unit?
deep verge
is there another box between it and the wall?
deep verge
ahh, ok, its a dsl combo
deep verge
you can try a new modem, but that issue could be numerous things.
sage hare
do you think the cable could be an issie
as it was in a similar position b4
and it didnt happen
deep verge
among other things, yes.
thick minnow
I ran out of Ethernet ports on my modem so i now us an old crappy router as a Ethernet switch
ornate jungle
Mmmm that looks like an old WRT54GL - totally fine for a 100mbit wired switch. ๐
thick minnow
ornate jungle
Ahhh it's the GS model.
thick minnow
Idk i just bought it a while back to use it as one purpose but never ended up using it for that purpose now it is just a switch
hearty shale
Need recommendation for a wireless AC router. Pref ASUS for small home setup. Area is about 100 sq ft
pseudo blade
@hearty shale Budget?
hearty shale
Prob $150 max
pseudo blade
US?
hearty shale
Asia atm
pseudo blade
As in USD?
pseudo blade
100sq. ft is very small. You're certain that's all you need to cover?
hearty shale
It is and the modem our ISP provided is really crappy
That's why we're looking into purchasing a separate router
pseudo blade
Need ethernet ports for other stuff? What kind of modem? Fiber, cable, V/ADSL...
hearty shale
DSL right now, unfortunately fiber is not offered in our area
As much as we want to upgrade
hearty shale
20mbps dl tops
pseudo blade
Excellent ADSL2+/maybe VDSL.
hearty shale
Our upload never gets pass 1mbps to be honest
pseudo blade
Sounds like good ADSL2+ then.
So you want to keep using your ISP modem, just bridge mode?
hearty shale
Yes that's right
little schooner
Its definitely worth it if you use that for LAN speeds
pseudo blade
Advice: Don't try to future-proof access points.
hearty shale
Also to alleviate traffic congestion?
pseudo blade
Lots of wifi congestion, eh?
hearty shale
Yup mostly 2.4Ghz
little schooner
@pseudo blade yeah, like the beta access points right?
hearty shale
That's why dual band is probably required for us
little schooner
Yeah i dont like buying the future, not-as-tested stuff
I like my things to work right the first time.
hearty shale
Yes we have android devices
pseudo blade
In your situation I'd buy this and be done with it. https://mikrotik.com/product/hap_ac2
It's small, cheap, AC/WiFi 5 and will easily cover such a small area in fast wifi. Use their mobile app if you want simple setup, it's quite nice nowadays.
But you prefer ASUS? Any particular reason?
hearty shale
Had experience with previous offices and works well even with lots of devices connected to it
pseudo blade
These easily handle hundreds of connected devices. Main thing you'd get from something like this is it can also do tons of fun stuff like traffic shaping (netflix slowing down your other stuff? Just slow it down).
It has various enterprise-grade features like that which can be nice to have.
hearty shale
Also product availability
pseudo blade
Take it or leave it, but these are easy to obtain ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
little schooner
@hearty shale you mean like, you can enter a bestbuy store today and find them by the dozen?
that kind of availability?
pseudo blade
It almost certainly is.
hearty shale
But we can look into it and probably ask if it can be ordered elsewhere
Unfortunately, I'm not from the US so very limited when it comes to specific products
pseudo blade
little schooner
@pseudo blade When it says All port test on the product page's specs section, that means it can't do full 5gig a second with all ports?
pseudo blade
The hAP AC^2?
little schooner
yes
pseudo blade
pseudo blade
I mean if you want more than 2gbps throughput buy something a little more expensive.
pseudo blade
It was on the page.
Specific pricing will vary between vendors, but these are US$69.
little schooner
pseudo blade
Very low part count.
Xeon, the reason they do this is that this is how all the all-in-wonder WiSOCs are built internally.
pseudo blade
Too stable? I wouldn't accuse them of that...
little schooner
Once I got over the initial hurdle of configurating it
well for me it feels like it =p
pseudo blade
Very easy user interface.
little schooner
based on this page, it says yes https://mikrotik.com/mobile_app
pseudo blade
Can do everything if you push a specific button, but has a simplified UI for those who just want the thing to work.
little schooner
Yeah, that is something to make sure to tell DialogBox
looks as if he can get it up and running faster than I thought with the app
pseudo blade
I mentioned it first up.
hearty shale
Thanks again
pseudo blade
And of course, for people who really do want everything...
Simplified UI for new people (you can customise what options are visible, by the way)
hallow nimbus
That looks like a mikrotik device
pseudo blade
It is a Mikrotik device.
But yeah it's actually quite nice and I'm sure those of us who've used Winbox can appreciate that it lowers the barrier for entry a fair bit but is still good enough for network admins.
pseudo blade
This is gross
hallow nimbus
Ew
pseudo blade
It's a bunch of Ruckus APs that have been set up by a customer, and they just all conflict with eachother for some godforsaken reason.
80mhz channels, control channels spaced 20mhz apart?
hollow marlin
@pseudo blade do you know more about what the C stands for in the wireless channels? I've read their documentation in the past and all I got is the C is the main channel and the e is the spare for wider widths
pseudo blade
@hollow marlin Control. Versus Extension.
hollow marlin
Any reason to change from say Ceee to eeCe?
pseudo blade
The control channel is the "main" one. The one used in 20mhz mode and announces capabilities, handles auth etc.
Honestly... Not really as far as I'm aware.
The only thing I can think of is if you have dense APs and lots of utilization/noise your clients will fall back to 20mhz on the control channel alone, but I wouldn't consider that to be desirable anyways.
If you lack spectrum for enough 80mhz channels that just means you should use 40mhz and/or lower transmit power honestly.
hollow marlin
Ok cool, so I did understand that correctly. Thanks man!
pseudo blade
No problems.
๐ผ ๐ฅ
clear igloo
I was going to get the 4XL, until I saw no fingerprint sensor
waxen scroll
you dont want one anyway
the cops cant make you unlock if its pin
anything else they can
clear igloo
True
hollow marlin
Wait was the keynote this morning?
lean pollen
A phone without fingerprint sensor on the back is a phone I don't want
waxen scroll
@clear igloo most of us wont have wifi 6 in our homes for the next 4 years
clear igloo
Meh
waxen scroll
i never buy new standard APs until my devices are caught up either ^_^
are you still on blobs server?
clear igloo
I think so
waxen scroll
i think blobby lost his passion
clear igloo
yah, he's never on anywhere
clear igloo
lol
little schooner
Even though I already have wifi 6 device, I don't need any more speed. My backup storage is all ssd, so everything is fast enough with current AC speeds
little schooner
@waxen scroll I want to write blog posts about issues that actually happen in production and have the solution for it when someone tries to Google it
waxen scroll
thats close to what i was doing, but i was also making up problems to solve
little schooner
Then they say thanks and I know I was helpful to someone out there
Yeah I'm bad at making up problems
@waxen scroll now I just internet archive anything important in case their blog disappears
waxen scroll
lots of people i know just dont have the spark they had pre-Job
myself included
it comes and goes, but once you do work the last thing you wanna do is home lab
clear igloo
Truth^
waxen scroll
what do you think about that @little schooner ?
little schooner
@waxen scroll yes that's true. I hope it doesn't happen to me though, because hobbies are hard to find
@waxen scroll this is where having multiple Hobbies is a great thing
waxen scroll
@little schooner watching TV is a valid hobby
little schooner
I guess so.
https://cyber-itl.org/2019/08/26/iot-data-writeup.html based on this article, ubnt is reducing firmware security with their products instead of spending the research time to get it done right
naive meadow
Hehehehe
hallow nimbus
๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฆ
naive meadow
The networking in the other hand leaves a lot to be desired
Over the Christmas holidays I plan on redoing parts of it
hallow nimbus
If it works it works
naive meadow
still gives me a headache every time I look at it
craggy parcel
@naive meadow At least you have patch panels. ๐
naive meadow
@craggy parcel not for my room
I am running a Ethernet cable from the gigabit switch to my desktop across the hallway
craggy parcel
That's how home networks usually works. A real pain when the cable gets damaged, because you handle it too often. ๐
little schooner
@craggy parcel I clip mine to the wall with wall clips or the molding near the floor
craggy parcel
I have a cable running from one end of my apartment, to the other, using network wall plugs, however, they are to be mounted with a sticky pad, that is pretty bad, so it's more or less hanging in the cable itself, kinda defeating the purpose. ๐
little schooner
This specific cable runs from two bedrooms, living room, and then the dining room. Finally it ends in the backyard
craggy parcel
@little schooner Yeah, so that way you only have to cut the cable, and replace the last part. ๐
little schooner
@craggy parcel yes I love that part
I cut at least 10 more feet
I think I ought to up that to 20 feet for outside runs though
little schooner
@craggy parcel yeah, although I'm not sure if there is a special method to keep its outdoor rating when you cut and crimp it
waxen scroll
@little schooner the packets never
little schooner
pack-ates
also @waxen scroll
What causes it to reset connection when it attempts to send test email to gmail?
I submitted the wireshark file to supermicro and hope they can solve it... because my other programs that send emails, like Veeam, are not having this problem
narrow slate
Pretty basic stuff
thick minnow
Going to order a m2 ax200 wifi 6 chip - anyone have any thoughts on one seller / manufacturer over the other?
Kinda confusing
pseudo blade
I'm amused that Ubiquiti has convinced people to buy their Cloud Keys/whatnot despite all the devices involved being more than powerful enough to handle its duties themselves.
Bleh. Complaints about wireless performance on a device. "May I use 5ghz? No." "May I use 40mhz mode? No." "May I reduce the number of virtual APs in use, and stop using each device as an AP and as a client? No." "Can I use dual-chain mode? No, can't afford the second element. Can I have a better single-chain antenna? No."
10mbps it is then
strange silo
@pseudo blade Think you misspelled 'force' ๐
pseudo blade
@strange silo You mean about the cloud keys?
Sorry, it's late and I'm not at my best for inferring context.
Last I checked they're not mandatory but they do demand you run a dedicated controller on something.
little schooner
@pseudo blade I use my server to run it since it's already serving as the NAS and HyperV
I'm usually running it on whatever linux distro they support
pseudo blade
Debian's their preference, basically all their hardware runs Debian.
little schooner
Yeah and that worked out perfectly
I just update it for security updates and their package
I need something to help automate that though
Maybe puppet?
Or ansible
I want the best one with a nice gui
little schooner
Yes thats what I use now but what if I also want it to update simply the unifi package too?
pseudo blade
Even just put it in a cron job or similar.
pseudo blade
0 4 1 * * sudo apt install --only-upgrade unifi
I think that would work, I just on my phone atm, not at a linux box.
little schooner
I'll give it a try thanks
craggy parcel
@little schooner Neither do I.. But you might have to do something to the plugs, especially if they are not inside. Also make sure that water stays outside, instead of flowing along the cable into the building. ๐
little schooner
I found out that I can't pass through a zwave COM usb device to a hyperV VM
But with other hypervisor, it's probably possible
pseudo blade
@little schooner I know of people who have written drivers to do this, but sadly those drivers now belong to his company and are proprietary.
little schooner
@pseudo blade it caused me to purchase Intel nuc in order to do the smart home zwave thing
narrow slate
Cloud Keys are great if you want ease of update remotely via unifi and for it to all just work together.
Don't have to worry about SSHing in remotely to update the underlying system.
craggy parcel
@little schooner Nope, can't find a way to pass thru a USB device in Hyper-V manager.. Perhaps when the VM is running, but hey, don't have one handy, and too lazy to setup one. ๐
little schooner
@craggy parcel I believe it's only video cards and hard drives that support it
And then the motherboard itself also has to support it
craggy parcel
I've successfully attached USB stuff to virtual machines running in VMWare workstation, on the same exact machine, that can not do it in Hyper-V. So I believe it's a software limit.
little schooner
Actually I could be totally wrong. It might be the fact that I have to pass the entire usb controller but everything is in use
@craggy parcel hyperv is type 1 hypervisor
Not software
It loads before the kernel
That might be an issue
It works maybe like unraid. You pass the controller and has to be in pcie slot
craggy parcel
Well, that means it has even MORE access to the actual hardware. But it makes no sense, that Hyper-V has less abilities to attache hardware to VMs than VMWare workstation. No matter how they differ, if one can do it, the other can too.
little schooner
@craggy parcel i really like it to be as simple as VMware does it, yeah
But VMware cannot run side by side with hyperv yet until 2020
When they use the new api to have that happen
craggy parcel
@little schooner not at the same time, no. But you can disable Hyper-V without uninstalling it. ๐
craggy parcel
True.. But it's faster, at least on my PC, than uninstalling the thing, and THEN doing a reboot anyways. ๐
little schooner
True. I have my os on Intel optane, but still, feels sluggish
Windows is not using all threads
Their binaries are still single threaded in most cases
Well with exception to trusted installer
Actually, I'll be careful about saying they are mostly single threaded, but based on what I saw in taskmgr, it's slowing the boot process
Optane was even faster than windows could feed it data
Optane drive for VMs is a dream though. Crazy fast, no delay
And if anything, the delay was from the fact that the VM drive was dynamically expanding or had or one vcpu
craggy parcel
Well, I don't have THAT new of a PC that Optane makes any sense at all. ๐
Also I get most of my virtualization needs covered in my day job, or using the companys serveres for experiments. ๐
little schooner
@waxen scroll if I understand this picture right, I literally just need copper wire and screw it into the right terminal of both the camera side and the nvr side?
waxen scroll
i dont think so?
for the alarm probably
but rs-485 is a serial bus and probably isnt so easy as plugging it in and done
for my alarm the RS-485 is daisy chained and looped, complete with termination resistors
thick minnow
Question time: I have an asus 3100 currently running at my house. We are in a week going to be moving to a smaller home with ruckus 510 APs installed, and will have a ruckus switch installer through Lennars "everything included" package. (They make you wait for it supposedly to have an amazon rep do it for you. I call shenanigans). I am wanting to try and secure the more vulnerable parts of my network once the whole system is connected, ei smart locks, wifi thermostats, a few other bits and pieces. Can I keep my Asus 3100 and use vlans on the smart switch and smart aps set for vlans? I dont see an option in the gui for vlan support on my asus.
waxen scroll
I believe Asus only supports vlans on the wan
I haven't seen otherwise
I don't know enough about ruckus to answer the rest
If the switch is layer 3 you need to set all the vlan on it and use it as a router for those vlans. Then you need a /30 subnet between the switch and the Asus. The switch needs a static route for 0.0.0.0/0 pointed to the Asus lan ip
The problem there is the switch isn't firewalling vlans
On many Asus you can get a root shell and maybe manually configure vlans and firewalling, but it's way more hassle than it's worth. All that will reset if the power goes out
thick minnow
Ah okay. I'm trying to safe money and avoid buying an edgerouter or equivalent but it sounds like it should be better in the long run
unborn thicket
This is kind of a long shot but does anyone know how to make the Huawei 3272s-153 4G modem work with a Raspberry pi ? I don't seem to have any luck with what I find on the web...
pseudo blade
@unborn thicket I might just. Does the modem expose a storage volume right now?
unborn thicket
I don't think so
@pseudo blade There's a read only sr0 rom, but that's it, no "real" storage volume
pseudo blade
sr0? strange, but if that's not just a scsi controller in your computer you're mixing up it still sounds related to this.
unborn thicket
I'll check it out, thanks !
unborn thicket
I already tried using usb_modeswitch but it didn't help (or change anything for that matter)
Although I did get a better understanding of what it is used for so that's still a small win ^^
little schooner
How does one setup a MITM to troubleshoot a server-to-Gmail smtp issue?
I want to see the error message as to why my server connects but does not send an email message when it closes the connection with gmail
Having issues properly troubleshooting this
carmine brook
I recently found out that there are 2 (possibly more) unauthorized devices on my network. I live in a trailer park, with a neighbor I would assume to be the one (that individual or individuals living in that household) using our network without permission. I don't know how long those devices have been on our network, or who owns them. But I would like to figure out who is using our network without our consent, and what should we do. My grandmother was hacked remotely in August in our own home, but we don't know who it was or why they did it (I don't know if it's the same people/person). This is my mother's network, and no one in our household knows much about networking, except maybe me. I know some about networking, not much, but some. I don't know what I should do, and who I should talk to (ISP?)?
little schooner
I think I found a tool that could help out, mitmproxy.
carmine brook
For who? You?
little schooner
Oh, sorry. Yeah for my issue
carmine brook
No problem
Well..
One of the devices is currently on my network.
I REALLY want to find out who they are.
And if possible, get them arrested.
little schooner
Are you able to look into your modem in your mom's home? There are times where you can see a device's hostname in the DHCP lease and that can maybe give you a clue as to who the device might belong too. For example, if its an iphone device that gets DHCP lease, iphones name could be "Jason's iphone" in the Modem DHCP lease page. If you know someone in the area by the name of jason, its a clue that it could be a jason, but its not a hard and fast truth.
Is this a wired or wireless network? @carmine brook
little schooner
Did you try a rotation of the wifi password?
Do they still find a way to connect?
carmine brook
@little schooner I know what u mean by the names. But the two unknown android devices have a name of "android-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx". The "x" being random numbers and letters.
little schooner
So chances are its some kind of phone or tablet android device
lean pollen
If you have the MAC adress you can figure out what manufacturer
probably
you should at least
carmine brook
Also..umm.... I'm pretty sure it's the default router password. So I'm thinking they just looked up passwords for our router brand.
I did.
little schooner
So i would change that.
carmine brook
I looked them up
carmine brook
Also, the router settings have been unlocked for years.
little schooner
And wait and see if they still join it
carmine brook
My mother does not know much about networking.
lean pollen
first 6 digits/letters of MAC is the manufacturer of the device OR wifi card
I think
lean pollen
oh
carmine brook
I'm going to list the phones' vendors.
But not reveal the MACs, I'm nice like that.
Motorola Mobility LLC, a Lenovo Company
The other vender is...
KYOCERA Corporation
lean pollen
That last one I have never hard about before
carmine brook
I first saw the Lenovo one yesterday.
And the KYOCERA one this morning, and 30 min ago.
It's currently 3:13 pm rn.
KYOCERA is a Japanese company, apparently.
little schooner
they make phones too
little schooner
Well, I would just not do all that. I think you can simply get away with just changing the WiFi password and locking the router setup page with a custom password.
That should be enough to solve the issue
@carmine brook They would tell you to do the same thing I suggested
clear igloo
You can't find out who it is, aside physically taking their devices and checking MAC addresses, you're not going to track them down like that
lean pollen
go door to door and ask if anyone knows what "KYOCERA" is
craggy parcel
KYOCERA produces photocopiers/printers, to my knowledge...
carmine brook
Where the devices are?
clear igloo
No, it doesn't work like that
carmine brook
Where the traffic is coming from?
There's a Lenovo android phone and a KYOCERA android phone.
clear igloo
The traffic comes from your network, that's it. Unless you get a device that can track RSSI strength and can narrow it down by MAC and are willing to go door to door scanning everyone, you won't find anything else out
carmine brook
Like, how do they catch these people?
little schooner
Like @clear igloo said, you wont know unless you physically take the devices and verify mac address
@carmine brook its not like the movies that make it look so easy to track people
carmine brook
Ok..
clear igloo
They don't, because unless they are stealing your information and you can prove it, nobody cares they "stole" your wifi
craggy parcel
Ahh Apparently Kyocera also makes phones.. Well, now I know that as well. ๐
little schooner
You have to have proof otherwise nothing will happen
carmine brook
Umm... it's illegal
craggy parcel
@little schooner Whet prevents you from spoofing the mac? ๐
carmine brook
Yeh
little schooner
someone stole my moms iphone and guess what they asked me first?
carmine brook
I was thinking that too
little schooner
do you have insurance on it?
carmine brook
Could it be a laptop?
little schooner
they didn't even want the location data
little schooner
I also learned that day that if there is no intent of concealment, you can't charge the person who takes your phone
its pretty stupid
clear igloo
It's your responsibility to secure your wifi
lean pollen
You could possibly manage to know what sites they are visiting if they dont hide it I think
but not spesifics
carmine brook
WireShark?
carmine brook
My Network and Security teacher mentioned it.
lean pollen
unless you know that one neighbour likes fishing while others dont and stuff
carmine brook
Well... they use it in the building.
little schooner
@carmine brook That only works if its not encrypted communications
carmine brook
At the college
little schooner
also, in modern networks, traffic from everyone does not go to your computer
craggy parcel
@carmine brook Depends.. If you have a Wireless NIC that supports monitor mode, you should be able to capture via wireshark wirelessly. If not, you would need to get the traffic sent to your computer, somehow..
little schooner
so you wouldn't even be able to see their traffic on wired connection
lean pollen
oh
carmine brook
Aight
clear igloo
Seriously, change your WiFi passwords, it's not that difficult. Courts have ruled in several cases it's your responsibility to secure your wifi, if they do something illegal and it comes back to you, it's on you unless you have tons of logs proving otherwise. Just saying "it was my neighbors" won't fly
craggy parcel
@little schooner Depends on how much info you want.. The SNI info in the SSL handshake, is unencrypted. ๐
little schooner
@craggy parcel if its any use
yeah.
@carmine brook sometimes the easiest solutions are the best ones.
Change wifi password
carmine brook
@clear igloo @craggy parcel @little schooner ok I'll change the password
Well, I'll just change the password. Sorry about the fuss guys/girls, I'm just very irritated.
I'm sorry if I went too far.
clear igloo
It happens, just make sure it's secure and that you check every now and again. Make sure WEP isn't enabled either and you're doing WPA2 ๐
craggy parcel
And also DISABLE WPS.
clear igloo
That too ^
carmine brook
@clear igloo @craggy parcel Thx!!๐
Although
We cant do it today.
My mother is sick and ornery, and she's not in the mood.
She also didn't know about this until now.
craggy parcel
Well, if you can't change the password, at least power off the router when not using it.
carmine brook
She doesn't care
craggy parcel
She will, when the cops comes knocking on the door, due to abuse...
carmine brook
What?
I'm blocking everyone.
Gonna take matters into my own hands.
I'm changing the passwords.
carmine brook
Aight, I put a lock on the router.
But I can't seem to block everyone so I can change the wifi password.
Idk what to do.
little schooner
Changing the wifi password blocks everyone who doesn't know of the new password
carmine brook
@clear igloo also, it's my mother's network, I just use it. I've never been this concerned of possible network security issues, until a couple of month ago.
@little schooner I know
Wait
Will we have to put the password back in. Or will we still be connected to the network?
little schooner
Have to put the password back in.
Everyone will disconnect
if using WPA2-Enterprise, not necessary to input all passwords in again
but that is not useful in your situation
carmine brook
Welll.
I can't block all the unknown devices because it just keeps loading.
And if I change the password, idk what exactly would happen.
And if I would fuck anything up in the process
carmine brook
Oooh, even better, the Firmware hasn't been updated since 2015.
I know, I mean.
Like .....
Idk what to do from there...
Idk man, I'm sorry, I'm just tired af rn.
I want to fix the router issue. But like, idk what specific steps to take to make sure I don't f anything up.
craggy parcel
@carmine brook What you need to do, is grab a cup of coffee, tea, hot chocolate, whatever helps you relax..
Then change the WiFi password, tell those that NEEDS access, the new password, or help them reconnect. You might have to remove the old connection, or change the network name. Some devices will refuse to ask for the new password, or let you update it, and just try to connect with the wrong credentials. (iPhones and iPads, I'm looking at YOU!)
little schooner
@carmine brook Take a 5 day vacation to florida and come back to it
craggy parcel
@little schooner Or change the pass, THEN go on vacation, before anyone notice. ๐
carmine brook
@craggy parcel I have to do it tomorrow.
My mother just doesn't care about this right now, especially since she's sick. Lol, my whole family doesn't care about network security.
And if I do anything, I'll get bitched out.
No one listens to me in my family when it comes to IT stuff.
craggy parcel
Well, the one with their name on the contract, could be held liable for any illegal activity, traced to that connection. The "guests" on the network, are most likely just browsing cat pictures on facebook, but they could be doing illegal things.
Personally I would change the password, and let people complain. However, I'm not in your shoes, and you might have your reasons for delaying the password change.
But unless you know you have criminal neighbors, there might not a any other problems, than the "guests" sucking up the bandwidth, and making the network perform slower. (More devices on a WiFi, will make it slower, fact of life. )
carmine brook
Guest wifi is not online, hasnt been for years.
craggy parcel
I did not mean guest wifi, I meant the unauthorized devices using the network, they are technically uninvited guests. ๐
carmine brook
And they are a corrupt household. Trust me, we've lived next to each other for years. I'll leave that subject where it is.
Ooh
Lol my bad
craggy parcel
BTW, when you DO change the password, do yourself a favour, and check the clientlist EVERYTIME you connect a device, to make sure it's not one of your own devices, that just show an unexpected name. I've actually seen that on the company network.
carmine brook
Clientlist?
craggy parcel
List of clients connected to the network.
craggy parcel
On a home wireless network, clients, devices and users, are kinda the same thing.
carmine brook
Ok thx
craggy parcel
In an enterprise network, clients can be either devices or users. Meaning that multiple users can login from the same device, using different credentials.
carmine brook
So make sure those devices are our devices, not duplicates or whatever, right?
That's what u mean?
Just to be crystal clear.
craggy parcel
Exactly.. So change password, reboot router. (Clears the list of devices) Then connect device 1, check device list, connect device 2, check device list, and so on, till all devices has been reconnected.
carmine brook
Ok
When should I update the firmware?
It hasn't been updated since 2015 apparently?
craggy parcel
Also if you have an android TV that might be the device showing up, or a wireless printer.. I've seen apparently rouge devices on wireless networks, that turned out to just be devices that identified themselfs with strange names.
carmine brook
No we dont.
I dont think
Not printer
Yeh no, none of that.
But should I update the firmware after step 3? Or 1?
craggy parcel
Well, if there's a new version available, upgrade. If not, buy a new router. ๐
Also, check the upgrade instructions, in some cases, you can not upgrade straight from a very old firmware, to the latest, especially if the latest is years newer. So you might have to upgrade in multiple steps.
I would change the password first, or if you are connected with a cable, simply disable wifi, untill the password is changed, and firmware upgraded.
carmine brook
Cable?
Wait.
You mean having it physically in our household?
Cable as in physically built at our home?
craggy parcel
Also for upgrading the firmware, if the router has an auto update feature, where you just check for updates, and press "Do it", then you should be fine just upgrading, if you are to download the firmware from the manufacture, you will have to make sure you can upgrade to the latest in one step.
carmine brook
Ok
craggy parcel
I mean a network cable running from your computer to the router, or at least the possibility of connecting via a network cable, doing the password change and upgrade.
carmine brook
Ok...
I have wifi and ethernet, lol.
I'll just change the password, reboot router, connect authorized users, and update.
Tomorrow.
@craggy parcel Thank you so much?
Lol srry, I meant with a "!".
craggy parcel
@carmine brook Just ask if you need more. I bet someone can help. ๐
carmine brook
Thx bro
Also, idk if it is my neighbors or not, but, seeing as how nothing bad has happened in the past couple months, tbh I think we're good. I was just being super paranoid about the dangers.
But, I'll probably still fix this problem tomorrow or Sunday.
craggy parcel
Yeah, I usually tend to freak out over stuff on my network, I can't explain. But the "cup of coffee" thing and then analysis, usually gives an explanation, often a device I just didn't know the name and make of. ๐
carmine brook
I'm gonna boot up my new gaming laptop, install/update everything, and play Destiny 2 or Rust now.
craggy parcel
@carmine brook Sounds like a good plan.. For me going to bed, would be a better plan. (It's a quarter to midnight here)
carmine brook
But I mean, it's not ours.
Aight
I'll kick the baddies today on D2 and Rust, and then my network tomorrow. Cya bro, take care.
little schooner
Never realized how much of a challenge it is to install phpipam. Their installation guide is horrendous
Had to rely on guides from Digital ocean
carmine brook
Bra wtf
Ever since I booted up my new laptop 45 min ago it keeps having network problems.
First it disconnected.
Now it shows me that yellow triangle warning saying "Unidentified network".
I'm connected to the wifi
But I cant get into steam
task manager says: 0Kbps Send and Receive.
Bro
I keep getting disconnected from my network.
@little schooner any thoughts?
little schooner
@carmine brook yes, check your wireless router
carmine brook
That device is still on our network.
But I cant do anything about the router until tomorrow.
I'm going to update my laptop, see if it helps.
little schooner
Chances are the problem is happening there
carmine brook
That device?
little schooner
A new laptop comes with working drivers out of the box
little schooner
Unless the manufacturer is really that bad
carmine brook
Yeh
little schooner
No I still say your router
carmine brook
Ok
carmine brook
Well, we've had frequent problems this year.
Occasionally it will disconnect us, but my mother said it was updates. Idk
But today, while setting up my new laptop and trying to install some games, it keeps disconnecting me.
Ohhhh wow
BSOD while trying to update.
fluid girder
hey guys, i'm trying to make a L2TP/IPsec VPN on PFsense using a Radius Server (in this case windows server 2019) but i just can't seem to connect. It says on my windows client that the layer 3 nogociation could not be established. Any ideas ?
(also, my pfsense is Behind a bell router WITH port forwarding)
thick minnow
So just a thought,
Would an Individual Desktop Computer User ever require an Internet Connection with Bandwidths of about 10 Gbps and above?
clear igloo
10Gb to the exchange, ~5Gbit outside of the exchange
hollow marlin
@thick minnow for the average consumer 100mbps is even too much. 10gig will never be required
pseudo blade
never Bold words, @hollow marlin
waxen scroll
bill gates ate those words
pseudo blade
I mean Bill Gates never actually said them.
waxen scroll
somebody ate them
pseudo blade
retail salesperson must've felt like such a fool after using those words to sell his 20th IBM PC for the week.
:P
waxen scroll
MNIJ sprouting nonsense when providers are getting 100G interfaces and no sign of stopping
๐
MUH 8k netflix
pseudo blade
I mean he's talking consumer, enterprises will always have different requirements.
waxen scroll
muh 6 people needing to use 8k netflix in the same house
pseudo blade
I'd say future content creation and consumption is the most likely consumer of faster bandwidth.
hollow marlin
@Meagus#9972 I will stand firm on my comment. It's not the same as Bills comment years back
pseudo blade
(which he didn't make)
hollow marlin
Still
pseudo blade
But still with games exceeding 100GB and still having a long way to go in the texture department...
VR when they finally make it suck less...
hollow marlin
Just because games are large doesn't mean they need 10gig
hollow marlin
Exactly. Never.
pseudo blade
Soo if games hit a terabyte (and I believe they will)...
hollow marlin
Again, not needed. Needed is "I need 25mbps to stream 4k"
pseudo blade
Full disk backups to the cloud and recovering them in a timely manner...
Even just cloud storage in general if we start seeing cloud-mounted disks go bigger could benefit.
hollow marlin
My comment did say average consumer. Downloading 1tb games and cloud backup and recovery are not average consumer.
It's the same with gig now
pseudo blade
I am 100% confident they will be within a decade or two.
Google Drive already makes the latter very easy.
waxen scroll
i like the one drive model
local storage + copy in cloud
last few companies i worked for moved their network storage to thaty
pseudo blade
Google Drive keeps a tiny cache but actually stores everything in the cloud.
last few companies i worked for moved their network storage to that Tee hee where I come from 100/40 is considered a very fast business internet connection
pseudo blade
Like from my research there's literally no faster option available in the city
You can't even bond more than a few because they use FTTN exclusively.
waxen scroll
i have been involved in putting some offices on "business" coax (its consumer infrastructure heh)
works fine
pseudo blade
Old lines, they won't run more unless you give them something close to a million bucks to consider a technology change.
hollow marlin
@waxen scroll you think there is a difference in infrastructure for "business class" connections
waxen scroll
no
@pseudo blade you ever dump like 2000 static routes into an office router?
i did, many times
๐
pseudo blade
Not an office one, our cloud ones are at about 250 and the entire block is summarized on the office router.
waxen scroll
one business wanted O365 to go out local internet and the rest go back to the data center over MPLS
they tried asking for AWS and i was like UHHHHHH
AWS does not share their routes like O365 does
they were mad cause their streaming vendor used AWS and the vendor refused to pay for a solution where their IPs never changed
pseudo blade
AWS Direct Connect here's 4.2c/GB.
waxen scroll
i think it was limelight networks (akamais competitor) its been a while
normally you dont do something like this. you usually have dual default routes... all goes to local internet unless local internet fails
glad i dont have to manage the routing table anymore
pseudo blade
I definitely want to work for a company a bit bigger than the one I'm currently at.
waxen scroll
the problem with them is all the content filtering is at their datacenter, so allowing full local internet would be unfiltered until they buy firewalls for *
pseudo blade
It's a startup, with all the joys that brings. Work culture sucks, long hours, I was hire 1 and hire 2 was a second manager. I do everything and I mean that literally.
clear igloo
@waxen scroll Vegas ๐ 
carmine brook
@clear igloo well, my family doesn't think I know anything (or I'm not competent enough) about network security. My whole family b*etched me out for blocking everyone and locking the router settings.
Ohh.... btw.. I'm taking a Networking & Security class at my college, but yeh... I know nothing.
waxen scroll
@carmine brook so whats your network experience consist of?
carmine brook
Not much. But I know more than my family.
waxen scroll
is that just a class or a degree?
carmine brook
Class.
waxen scroll
whats your degree for
carmine brook
But it's very fast paced, so it's hard to keep up with everything.
waxen scroll
lmao. uh huh.... you dont just have one class on both of those topics
they are massive
carmine brook
Yeh
Its fundamental
For both, in one class.
I'm currently doing a IT Service & Support program thing. Which is non-transferable
And an Associates in Science Degree.
carmine brook
@waxen scroll btw, I locked the router settings because it wasnt locked, for years apparently, so anyone could've changed the wifi password and blocked whoever. Also, the firmware hasnt been updated since 2015. And we have some unauthorized devices on my mother's network.
Yeh
Just the basics, u know.
But alot of stuff tbh, soooooooo much notes.
That you cant even take notes, u feel me?
carmine brook
Lol
waxen scroll
i write notes as bullet points, i dont write sentences unless required
carmine brook
It's very fast paced, the teacher just reads what's off a PowerPoint, class over.
Same
Or, I used to.
But, she does explain them though.
And provides examples. So that makes it better.
waxen scroll
i learned more using books instead of class
carmine brook
@waxen scroll but tbh, I dont think you need much networking experience to know that your router and network is:
โขinsecure
โขout of date
โขand not maintained properly
Lol
Same
But #3 is more obvious
waxen scroll
all i do is networking. every day. no servers. xD
@jaunty talon so no more DH or what?
waxen scroll
dreamhack
carmine brook
Dreamhack?
waxen scroll
he does their networking
carmine brook
I'm sorry... I'm still a idiot with some things. Lol
waxen scroll
oh, its a LAN party convention thing
waxen scroll
your boy Lurick also does nothing but networking all day
carmine brook
Yeh
I can tell.
Networking is hard for me, not gonna lie
But, next week we starting security.
Which I hope will be fun.
waxen scroll
you dont see dedicated networking / security roles until theres like 3,000 employees
of course there are edge cases
i play with 300,000 employees
waxen scroll
thicc boiii
let me tell you, it was a pain in my ass to get my foot in the door for networking only roles
carmine brook
I believe it.
It seems pretty important.
Many people take it for granted.
i.e. my mother, sister, and grandmother
The ones who b*tched me out yesterday.
Lmfao, they said repeatedly that I was being selfish and thinking only of myself.
waxen scroll
its a scope problem too.... if you're an employer who needs to hire for server you might be OK letting someone out of college come touch it. When you touch a server outside of an automation platform that touches many at once, the outage scope is one server. With network, theres no such thing as the scope being limited to one PC. Misconfigurations can also sometimes escape the building you're working on and take down the whole company.
carmine brook
@waxen scroll accept my friend request, I wanna show u my reward for my efforts yesterday in trying to protect my family and our network.
little schooner
If they don't want it, I guess no means no.
The dentist job was the same way. They didn't want passwords for their computers
waxen scroll
theres got to be some sort of law violation there
carmine brook
What?
little schooner
@waxen scroll if there is, I have no idea
waxen scroll
you're managing their IT... you should know ๐ฆ
little schooner
Now is a good learning opportunity
waxen scroll
im talking to xeon
carmine brook
Ok
little schooner
Can you tell me what it is? But for some reason, my prof is hesitant to go back there to finish the work
waxen scroll
arent you not in the US? i wouldnt know
carmine brook
@waxen scroll @little schooner lmfao, anyone could access the computers in my CTI and CTS classes, no passwords.
No passwords to login I mean.
little schooner
The data they store is patient records and images of X rays, but that system is protected by a separate password
They don't want password for the windows login thing though
little schooner
Which I found odd though, as it was easy to spin up something like that
Not even hard. The main problem we faced was their awful switch
carmine brook
Hmm.
Well, if u can put a password on it... Do so.
For security.
Security is god.
little schooner
You can't even connect to it. It's unmanaged
carmine brook
Hmm.
little schooner
No way for password
carmine brook
Well.
How do u think i felt when i found out i could type in http://router on my browser and access out network? And if I wanted to, change the wifi password, and steal my families IPs and MACs, etc?
I'd feel pretty insecure staying in a network like that, which I do.
But my family finds it ok.
Soo....
little schooner
My hands were tied with what I could do because the prof gave an unrealistic time line to complete the dentist job
carmine brook
Yeh
carmine brook
People have their priorities in odd places.
carmine brook
Lmfao
little schooner
It was my first job like that and of course I made a lot of mistakes and time management hit me so hard...
Like omg I gotta seriously. Work on time management with the problems
carmine brook
Everyone: "Nobody cares about the f*king network, if it ain't broke, dont fix it".
Yeh
I dont want to do netorking.
I'd rather do hardware.
It's funner for me.
And easier.
little schooner
I love doing the networking stuff. It feels like a game to me
Gets me excited.... As long as I am not burnt out
clear igloo
A. GAME!!
waxen scroll
@little schooner lets play IT change management
little schooner
@waxen scroll yeah. Especially when I was doing packet tracer
waxen scroll
if you cant explain exact impact, you will get denied
little schooner
Yeah in the business env the fun stops =(
Now it's all fighting to get what you want
@waxen scroll the prof has been lucky so far explaining impact in order to snag some grants
@waxen scroll but guess what? They are starting to take control back from assets worth over 1k that was purchased with grant money
First they told him spend it on whatever you need and now they want control back on the items if they see its doing good work for students
It's stupid
This policy started like last Month
carmine brook
@little schooner I dont 100% understand what ur saying, but sounds like something needs some flex seal.
Flex tape*
Cus it's broken.
little schooner
@waxen scroll what country makes it legal for a bank to record the card number and the amount of money withdrawn with a camera software?
Because hikvision software has an ATM search function that shows the time when that person made a transaction with card # and amount
waxen scroll
idk, never heard of that. i have heard of a camera showing everything the customer bought on screen as it scans in
waxen scroll
i dont see why it would be illegal unless it showed the full card #
little schooner
Yes, it shows the full card #
Well, I would think only because it says you can search it up
card number is like account number
for some banks.
waxen scroll
i believe in EU thats highly illegal... in US i suppose the PCI requirements would be violated
waxen scroll
@little schooner im planning on making a CDP crawler python script that acts like a virus
my coworkers will love me
lol
little schooner
im sure they will love it xD
think of something for april fools day too
Here's the old gui of ivms https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mTu2GGVLpiY/maxresdefault.jpg
MAJOR improvement this new version vs old
waxen scroll
you give it one device name to log into, preferably something like a WAN router, then it uses CDP on there to make a DB in memory and if you asked for a command to be run, it will do that too. Next it logs into the devices seen in CDP and does the same thing, but if a device is duplicated it will ignore it and only hit what it hasnt seen before
little schooner
ahh so its like a worm, repeat the same cdp discovery and run the command on everything it finds and repeats?
heheh that is like a piece of malware
waxen scroll
its for large sites when you want to do something like "show ip route" and compare it across all devices and dont have the time or patience to manually log into each one and put it in an excel file
little schooner
yeah that does make it fast to gather it for you
waxen scroll
we also have a documentation issue where i work, so CDP is super helpful rather than manually telling it
little schooner
It's saved me a couple of times when I didn't have access to datacenter to make some trunk port changes that I had to be careful with. A mistake would of locked me out and I would of have to ask someone to go fix it with console cable
cdp to the rescue. I saw the mac addresses and the device that was on the port
and helped me map the stuff out
and then i did the changes without issue
waxen scroll
it turns out work has a devops team and an internal github like service
so i got access to that
little schooner
pretttty neat.
Also this
I can search my cameras for "violent motion"?
hehe
even people that are falling
young yacht
@little schooner Ever looked at kerberos?
little schooner
Yes, with esxi nfs share. I could never get it working
and windows but that is usually automatic
young yacht
I've been looking for some cams and software lately - have about 5 or so people wanting cameras installed at an elderly peoples home
little schooner
oh, kerberos is a brand of camera?
young yacht
They provide DVR software - kerberos.io
waxen scroll
if i did cams at home i would probably go unifi
little schooner
Oh
waxen scroll
nor is it easy to run wires in outside walls
young yacht
cost of dvr really
little schooner
I never played with them before
young yacht
Thats okay, I've got an electrician and no real issues running cables
The unifi works really well tho. so maybe i've just got to find a cheaper mini pc to use as the dvr
wonder how a pi 4 would go
little schooner
My DVR is currently a https://www.hikvision.com/en/Products/Network-Video-Recorder/Pro-Series(EasyIP)/EasyIP-3.0-Series-NVR/DS-7608/7616NI-Q2/8P(16P)
They are not cheap unforunately
but boy being able to draw lines anywhere in the footage to detect if someone crossed somewhere is awesome
You are not restricted to motion settings you setup
You can post-draw lines or motion boxes in places you didn't expect to put motion detection
and the nvr scrubs though looking for any matches
by far the best feature of it
Even works with non-hikvision cameras
little schooner
I started buying more dahua gear, because it was more cost effective
Im sure that NVR does similar thing though, does it?
young yacht
Yeah very similar, tbh this is my first cctv install job
but from my research yes very similar features haha
Getting about 10 dahua cams
little schooner
Yeah they are great. I have one cam from dahua that has such an amazing sensor at night imagery
Just one, since this area was very dark
the rest were cheap ones like these https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1449829-REG/dahua_technology_n41bd22_4mp_ir_mini_bullet.html/c/product/1449829-REG/Lite_Series_N41BD22_4MP_Outdoor_Network
young yacht
I've been testing cams from Alibaba actually haha - I can't believe the quality of them
waxen scroll
china depends on good camera to keep the people in line
young yacht
That last cam you sent; very similar to the cam I got for about $19
little schooner
Yeah, they sell china variants and US variants
no support from dahua with china version i think...
Also when you upgrade firmware, it can be hit or miss
also look how low the required lumination is for the $240+ camera
young yacht
haha they do @waxen scroll I might have heard about this on a Linus vid, but did you see the 500 Megapixel camera are working on ?
little schooner
basically requires no light for color at night
and the color is fantastic
if surveillence is a hobby, it is my next favorite hobby
surveillence camera tech excites me a bit
young yacht
I'm loving the new AI stuff
little schooner
@young yacht add this to your dahua camera stuff, and you got an incredible AI package
young yacht
Ah yep have seen them
little schooner
Look at how crazy this is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-3-zyx3rLo
little schooner
omg I'd LOVE to have this
but yeah that will make your camera system "AI smart" without breaking the bank
young yacht
The kerberos software does kindaa do that; but it's monthly plans
little schooner
@young yacht I just looked, is kerberos a free software?
Where do you see monthly plans
lean pollen
Thats only new if the car is self driving
young yacht
Yes and no; they have paid plans for cloud hosting + AI
but it's weird; you can only connect one camera to kerberos
I think that is changing soon
little schooner
Yeah they should let you connect all of them
there was a debacle about unifi's camera app having some sort of advertisement pop up?
And that the people who installed the systems for clients were complaining saying that they didn't get the deluxe package installed or whatever its called and thought the installers ripped them off
They've since fixed that but still, not sure what made them think that was a good idea to push.
young yacht
lol, I didn't hear about that. I haven't seen any adverts on my current system
Shinobi is another open dvr i've been looking at
worth a look https://shinobi.video/
little schooner
This was the advertisement https://community.ui.com/questions/How-to-remove-this-ridiculous-ad-for-Unifi-Protect-from-UFV-installations/b99f9c81-f0e1-4015-b5f3-122035f21811
This is just simply to manage the cameras?
It doesnt say what specific motion detection it has
young yacht
Region motion detection
little schooner
oh. I just missed it lol
So that would be the box-style
I didn't know these open dvr systems existed
actually, they are really nice.
young yacht
Yeah there is a few out there, zoneminder is another big one
I've heard bad things about Zoneminder but I think I'm gonna set it up today and see how it goes ๐
ocean fable
Imagine being obsessed with some 0's and 1's moving
waxen scroll
@ocean fable the people who are pull in $200k
ocean fable
Most of them probably work at a school or a library, they're not pulling in 200k
People say the same thing about sec
waxen scroll
its common to pull in the 100s here and not even be obsessed with 1s and 0s
the obsessed ones are working at consulting firms making bank on companies who need advice
except dont tell @hollow marlin
:X
little schooner
@ocean fable I don't like being the white hat hacker I like to be the defender
nimble coyote
u like blu? I got blu
little schooner
And companies attack you if you expose any wrong doings, like saving social security numbers in plaintext accessible to anyone who knows the UNC share path
They don't see it as being helpful and threaten legal action
clear igloo
@ocean fable Straight from the mouth of someone who probably can't make it, LUL
ocean fable
lol, its not my field and I'm still a student
i was just trolling
i do biomed and seng, so networking probably won't come up in my career
young yacht
@little schooner Got that camera installed today; pretty decent quality at night ( this is from IR )
little schooner
@young yacht looks great!
little schooner
@waxen scroll is it strange that I could hear someone's conversation through my computer speakers when they are sitting in a car on the street?
What kind of interference do you call that?
waxen scroll
EMI
i suspect the same happens with my fan
when i run it at night sometimes i hear slight noises that sound like chimes or maybe radio
could just be some white noise effect i dont know about. ๐
clear igloo
Or you have a spoopy house O_O
little schooner
The conversation sounded like they were doing an illicit deal nearby.
People hit this neighborhood at night during summer but never our house
waxen scroll
you have a dog bro
little schooner
Yes but they are poodles they arent the fighting type.... not in the condition they are in
They will try to play fight but that won't be enough to scare off
waxen scroll
@little schooner you should consider a gun
if its known they're hitting homes at night, dont let them get you before you get them
little schooner
I don't think I have courage to fire the gun. I can't hold one without a license either as a deterrent.
Airsoft guns? Any guns are not my style
pseudo blade
anthrax dart oh boy I always wanted to accidentally poison myself, my family and my neighbourhood and go to prison as a result of attempting to manufacture and use a bioweapon on an intruder
sterile pasture
Not an accident ๐
hearty shale
Hey @pseudo blade you still here
pseudo blade
hm?
hearty shale
So you recommended that mirkotik hap ac2 and I looked around it seems it's not available here
pseudo blade
...What country.
hearty shale
PH
By not available I mean they don't have it anymore in stock etc
What I found that'll probably work with our budget is an ASUS RT-AC53 AC750?
I think that's the exact model
pseudo blade
Single-chain wireless and reviews say bad antennas, ethernet performance is apparently fine for 500-900mbps.
hearty shale
They're still selling wireless N routers
pseudo blade
That's because cheap consumer routers are trash. Decent AC wireless isn't even that expensive to integrate.