techs just want to get in and out. ill be surprised if they do it
#networking
waxen scroll
out here about 3 years ago they started charging for all cable work.... unless your house never had cable before and you're a new customer
and after that now they have wireless cable boxes, internet, etc... so they'll be like "its wireless, why do you need me to run a wire?"
little schooner
yes they said installation is included with this fiber install. it's a new company that came into the state, disrupting Comcast
but I will see when they get here
I have to wait another year before they hit my area with sales and marketing
covert ibex
@waxen scroll
Sorry, had to tag somebody and you where my second last tag.
And couldn't help that remark.
covert ibex
That's a lot cleaner than my cabling area...
little schooner
@waxen scroll what's a good company for rack boxes like that?
waxen scroll
triplite
little schooner
that's probably what will be going in the basement
because right now I'm using a wire frame rack to hold everything in a bedroom
I hate it
covert ibex
So.. patch panel, two switches, a modem/router and a Edgerouter.
Perrdy.
pseudo blade
I have an LTE box I legally can't poke at because it's govt. property, a home router with a 4G backup modem in it... and a Mikrotik Groove behind it that intercepts all traffic over that modem's WLAN or LAN and queues it.
covert ibex
@pseudo blade
Stupid govt equipment...
pseudo blade
7 years old and I still can't poke at it :(
covert ibex
Know the feeling. :/
waxen scroll
theres an RJ-11 patch panel next to this thing.... port 1 in the pic goes to that patch panel. port 2 goes to ATT POTS demarc outside. So with a flip of a patch cable all phones can go to comcast VOIP or ATT POTS
i dont use phone, but i put that in there for later
covert ibex
That's nice.
Not sarcastic nice, like, I really like it.
little schooner
@waxen scroll is that a 6u rack?
clear igloo
@waxen scroll https://i.imgur.com/MUMm3IY.jpg
pseudo blade
Oh. And a Mikrotik hEX I use for VPN connetivity.
waxen scroll
6u
waxen scroll
covert ibex
Wallpi. Best kind.
clear igloo
Yah, I've replaced them since that picture with RPI3 but still mounted in the same way 😛
covert ibex
I just stuck mine in another pc that's always running.
pseudo blade
I see a UCS. I see... Cisco 800 series and a WLAN controller? I see two Poweredges.
clear igloo
Yup, also a Cat 9300 switch down on the bottom-ish with a UPS at the very bottom
pseudo blade
Were you Australian?
clear igloo
US
covert ibex
Aw...
pseudo blade
If so I would have refined my guess to a Cisco 880VA.
clear igloo
I think its an 891 iirc
clear igloo
Best adapter 😄
covert ibex
I was waiting for some janky dip switch setup to make us all gobsmacked.
pseudo blade
clear igloo
You didn't run each line separately! reports
waxen scroll
you can never have enough zip ties
covert ibex
+1 for zip ties.
-1 for not colour coordinated tags.
waxen scroll
tags for what
covert ibex
Where does this cat cable go..
2... What was 2 again?..
pseudo blade
They have a patch panel. Should label it there.
covert ibex
@waxen scroll
My only issue with that, is running around the house trying to find a number.
waxen scroll
well the only reason you'd be in the basement looking at a patch panel is you already know where a problem is
😄
pseudo blade
Patch panel has blank spaces for putting info.
waxen scroll
in datacenters its the same issue, the labels on the panels are cryptic
covert ibex
See... I came into my work #2 network and started with a patch panel without numbers, or anything plugged into it.
So kinda tagged a lot more than I probably needed to ..
waxen scroll
you need to know where the end is plugged into
covert ibex
None of the ports around the factory where numbered either..
waxen scroll
realistically though ive just been lazy and never did it
whoever buys this house after me is going to screw it up anyway
covert ibex
My home network is getting changed next..
@pseudo blade
I'm doing the bad thing and wiring from the telecom box to a port myself...
NBN dude came, looked at a port in my kitchen and said "yeah, it'll work" then left.
Wires literally hanging out from it.
pseudo blade
Quality!
waxen scroll
last cable guy who came over here to look at my coax didnt flinch when he saw the rack.... someone has EXPERIENCE!
he showed me this phone app (comcast) which can easily see problems in whole neighborhoods at specific homes
was pretty cool
pseudo blade
Yeah, NBN co gives very few shits about internet connectivity for a company initially created solely to improve it.
covert ibex
NBN.. sorry, you mean xdsl..
pseudo blade
This is NBN VDSL2 (fttn), yes?
If it's HFC you might cause a few more annoyances if you mix it up...
covert ibex
Line in goes to Splitter, goes from two lines to four. (Two not connected.)
Then to another telecom wall cover that splits from two to four again. ( White and blue wires start here)
Just patch those to an rj11 port, and bobs your uncle. Just did what NBN techs can't do.
pseudo blade
Not that difficult to do right, though they do get very grumpy if they find out you did it without the right license.
covert ibex
Oh yeah. Dumb big fines.
Lines have been on this house for 20 years. Pretty sure squatters rights make those cables mine... Right?...
waxen scroll
i wonder how that works in america for consumers
i know the cable going into the house belongs to the consumer
but in professional, you normally need to get permission to touch that port... plugging or removing the wire
little schooner
in America, Comcast has too much ISP power
Comcast needs to be broken down into more companies
They are also bad negotiaters
thick minnow
Comcast and Time Warner have a monopoly on rural america
they get away with it because "hey we have competition in the cities"
little schooner
Ugh I just can't stand it
how it works like this
I have a family member in rural area but I actually don't know if Comcast is there.
if it was I'd probably tell them. not to get it
suddenly, my monthly fees went up again
thick minnow
most of the time its a choice between one or the other
little schooner
yeah =(
thick minnow
call comcast and complain to them and they'll knock the price down again
i have to do it every couple months
little schooner
They told me to wait until May, they wouldn't budge
maybe I didn't harass... I mean talk to them firmly enough
my alarm company is so chill that they work with you on pricing all the time
it's crazy
the polar opposite of comcast
thick minnow
i dont see how prices can fluctuate so much with ISPs
like if they sent out something that said "our energy cost increased at the data center closest to you" or it's more difficult to get internet to you i could at least understand it
doesn't mean i agree with it because that should be structured into the business but at least customers aren't left in the dark
little schooner
yeah I mean honesty and transparency like that would go a long way
ivory coyote
Guys how can I sove this? I'd like to game online without ping spikes that just ruin the game and kick me... I'm litterally 3,5 m away from the router and unfortunately I'm connected via wifi. I have this connection speeds: https://www.speedtest.net/result/8190390954.png
waxen scroll
i dont work with comcast because they lie about the max discount you can get
ivory coyote
waxen scroll
i cancel my account at the end of the term and make a new one
ivory coyote
If you know how to help me, please don't hesitate to @ivory coyote
waxen scroll
@little schooner what alarm company?
@ivory coyote have them run testing on the inside/outside wiring.
ivory coyote
Could you please explain that? I'm not expert in networking stuff
waxen scroll
physical problems with the wiring from the router all the way back to the carriers office can cause ping spikes and lost packets
ivory coyote
Well I don't know how to test that. My router is a combo unit from the ISP (modem+router+access point)
waxen scroll
you dont, the ISP has to come out with special equipment
ivory coyote
But I can't call them for this because they just can say: test you speed (with the ookla speedtest) and tell us the ping. The ping in speedtest is actually fine, only after a bit it spikes as hell
waxen scroll
does the problem occur when directly connected to the modem without wireless?
ivory coyote
Idk, I don't have a ethernet cable long enough…
I'll try to connect it ghetto style, hang on
waxen scroll
basically if it still happens start telling them you have disconnections... not just ping spikes
then they'll have to come out
ivory coyote
k
Apparently my wifi card isn't working well… Black is cabled while yellow is wifi.
First two tests are cabled, while the last one is with wifi
I think I might consider to cable the room 🤔
I think the final test with cable is to try it with online gaming
waxen scroll
maybe you need to wifi scan and see if there is too much on the channels that you use
ivory coyote
After a quick testing I have to say that cabled is far superior. Much more stable, no ping issues (Always around 45ms) and I see the players moving naturally and not like I'm playing a slideshow :)
I'll buy 3,5 m of cable I guess
Thank you @waxen scroll tho 😃
waxen scroll
@little schooner pls
waxen scroll
@little schooner RIP
its all vivint branded shit i think
you can get alarm monitoring for like $8/m
but you need a standard alarm
little schooner
@waxen scroll They gave me like more than 13 window sensors, doorbell camera and lots of motion sensors too
they were much better than the other company that basically charged $90 per sensor
but I consider this a one off case because we signed up with one of the sales rep that came to our door and he made an offer we couldn't refuse
yeah they are 2gig equipment with vivint label
2GIG internet not included =(
they should really change their company name
waxen scroll
i got 31 sensors if my math is right
all 👏 of 👏 them 👏 hardwired
0 wireless
all of it run on a single battery
wait no... forgot some. 40
@clear igloo internet of sensors
installing all that was a bitch
little schooner
@waxen scroll hardwired is nice
if I could I'd want that setup too
but how to do that for windows?
seems like a new challenge
waxen scroll
it depends how the windows are hung, mine are outer hung, so i took the safe route and attached sensors where they're visible to humans because the hidden version is too close to the outer wall for my comfort and it voids any warranty
i had a drywaller cut a rectangle under all my windows
drilled the stuff myself, attached the wires, had the guy patch it up
little schooner
not bad
waxen scroll
i went way overboard because i assumed this would be my final home automation platform... i could have used a cheaper alarm instead
this thing talks serial to a box that converts it into a telnet session
and then my external home automation platform connects, listens, and sends commands as needed
so any sensor events can be acted on externally
little schooner
advanced to me
waxen scroll
yep. you need to learn a few things first. cant just "go do it"
they dont sell these to non-alarm installers for that reason, but you can still get them against the companies wishes
little schooner
@waxen scroll the green alarm connectors look familiar to the ones I see on cameras
how do I connect those?
with the thing you have in the picture
?
waxen scroll
i dont remember what they're called but they only let you secure cables to them, its not a standard or anything. cameras wont work on this
little schooner
oh geez non standard territory
waxen scroll
its very simple circuitry
positive, negative
it expects either a short of +/- or no signal at all depending on what setting you use
if the reverse happens, the panel knows that the sensor was tripped
little schooner
okay, so maybe it's not so bad after all then
so I am assuming the camera would send this signal if a certain event was trigger
as +/-
waxen scroll
no, i dont think so. i suspect what you're refering to is a PTZ camera
you send the camera signals and it pans, tilts, or zooms
little schooner
but for the Green Alarm connector that they have, that looks like the serial thing like you explained
with the +/-
like the camera can send a signal. to Alarm and trigger another device
like a speaker
waxen scroll
if its an alarm connector then i guess the camera is signaling whether or not its being tampered with
little schooner
yeah something like that. I am not too sure how to use it though since the manual doesn't explain its installation
they assume I'm a camera installer and expect to know
waxen scroll
my new sump pump has an alarm connector too
same concept, you send it electricity and it can either send it normally or not
when the pump trips it does the reverse of what you asked
little schooner
yeah very confident that it does exactly that
at least the connector is standard
but the function can vary
little schooner
your careful planning really paid off
little schooner
surprisingly I haven't
little schooner
do they last the same?
waxen scroll
yes
waxen scroll
anyways you're not allowed to connect an alarm panel to them, per the manufacturer. they make a module to listen for a signal from them and it trips a relay so that another unrelated device can wake up if they go off
power out, it has a battery in it
the problem is this relay will trip the second they go off
thats why they tell you not to
normally with an alarm it needs to wait a while and ignore it to make sure its not a false alarm
that small circuit board is a timer circuit
if they go off it waits 10 seconds and trips its own relay
then the alarm knows theres a fire
waxen scroll
so yeah, it was a PAIN to put in. it took me a year of casually expanding it
now i have tons of sensors and i use them to trigger activities
hollow marlin
👋 sup guys
covert ibex
@waxen scroll
You and I need to have a long heart to heart chat about things. :P
If I lived near you, I'd be over all time.
waxen scroll
o_o
covert ibex
That sounds a lot more scewy than I thought it would..
clear igloo
@waxen scroll ~20 sensors and no pain installing them 😛
waxen scroll
the pain for you will come later in the form of reliability and batteries
clear igloo
2.5 years and no issues so far with reliability. Batteries though will probably hit soon 😃
hallow nimbus
replace them all at once
acoustic lagoon
Anyone had an issue something close like this. Imagine you have 4 vSwitch networks (don't worry you don't need to know why)
I work with Hyper V and I'm running 2016 Server
I have been working on Hyper v for a while managed to set up at least 80% of my initial network goal
following the architecture that I've developed
to check the status of my server I wen to Server Manager and Waited for it to load
after that my RDC hanged and lost connection
As well now since I did usual IT thing - reboot if doesn't work to see if it does after
All of my vSwitches are gone
no networking is possible
Hyper-V is not responding either
acoustic lagoon
I now managed to resurrect the connection to the server, which is static ip on the bare metal Adapter
But I'm fucking confused where are my vSwitches
This is the error I receive when I try to manage my vSwitche's again
little schooner
use the powershell commandlet to get and delete missing vswitches
My Intel vlans keep disappearing for no rhyme or reason
I don't know what causes it. Either its windows, VMware or something else that's messing it up
acoustic lagoon
I figured that might be the issue
God damn it windows
Welp, I just resetted the whole system but I have all my VM's in HyperV so it will take less time to restore
Then doing a functional backup
when it's up and running
Thanks for heads-up @little schooner
thick minnow
Sounds like a big OOF.
You better be using HSRP in your virtual networking topology. @acoustic lagoon.
HSRP is a Cisco propriety redundancy protocol.
little schooner
what program is that used to make that
thick minnow
CBT Nuggets had a pretty good video on HSRP.
IDK Xeon, just google networking diagram software.
little schooner
oh I thought you made that
thick minnow
Lmao I wish
thick minnow
That was a software that I downloaded personally for doing the homework assignment.
little schooner
ahh yeah they have free portion of it
thick minnow
I uninstalled it a while ago because I didn’t need it anymore.
Watch vido iz gudd
little schooner
k
clear igloo
conf t
feature hsrp
interface vlan 123
hsrp version 2
hsrp 1
authentication md5 key-string potato
preempt
priority 110
timers 1 4
ip 1.1.1.1
Like that 😛
thick minnow
Yup.
It’s good to know the commands, but’s it also good to watch the videos and have the concepts and examples explained to you as well IMO.
clear igloo
lol, I know the concepts and commands very well 😛
but yes I agree, commands are only half of it
acoustic lagoon
Fixed. I'm oofing with the pfsense rn
I can't access any webpages
Or discord 😂 😂
clear igloo
@waxen scroll Needs at least 4 uplinks to 4 different boxes too 😛
waxen scroll
@clear igloo GLBP or nothing
clear igloo
vrrp at least 😛
waxen scroll
dont be a poor Lurick
you need two MPLS circuits on different routers
if your core is L2, you need to GLBP
little schooner
I don't remember the feature command. I guess PT didn't require it for some reason
for hsrp
waxen scroll
PT doesnt support what lurick pasted afaik
clear igloo
feature command is for NX-OS
thick minnow
@waxen scroll I haven’t used HSRP for anything yet, however I am aware of the other standards like GLBP and CARP.
little schooner
@thick minnow is carp the IEEE open standard?
it looks familiar
too lazy to Google search xD
I'm about to drive
thick minnow
@little schooner I believe that CARP is an open standard IIRC.
clear igloo
CARP uses cryptography to be different from VRRP or HSRP and is open source as mentioned above. There is some overlap between VRRP and CARP but they can still be used together
outer nexus
thick minnow
Well, if I wanted to become an entry level software developer, I guess I could. But I’m not really sure if an C.S degree is what I’m looking for.
frank lion
Is it only my router and device I want to connect that determines if I can use 5ghz over wifi?
snow notch
If you want to manually choose between 2.4 and 5, then your router will probably have an option to broadcast different SSID's on each frequency
fresh copper
There are some specifics about which frequencies you can use but the average person will leave to automatically pick a frequency
snow notch
Whilst I'm here;
Anyone else had a problem with extremely slow torrent downloads? Trying to get a linux distro, well over 2500 seeders. Averaging about 10KB/s down, on a connection that's 4.5 Megabyte/s down, and NO throttling on P2P. Tried a few other torrents too, same results.
frank lion
Check your settings in your torrenter
Or whatever it's called
You can usually limit your bandwidth from there; maybe it's switched on
snow notch
Nah I've made sure it's on unlimited. Also added a massive list of new trackers, and although most of them work, my speeds haven't increased. UPnP is ON. Randomize port on startup is ON. Max connections is at 500. DHT is ON. PeX is ON. Upload is capped to minimise impact on download speeds, no effect.
unreal wedge
@waxen scroll you're trying to get on my nerves, aren't you. 
waxen scroll
no. i just want networking to be a better place
unreal wedge
Then destroy Verizon, AT&T, Comcast, and rerun the world with 1TB/s fiber.
waxen scroll
@thick minnow grade on diagram = ?
covert ibex
@unreal wedge
And Telstra.
covert ibex
"50mbps" is $80/m here. :/
waxen scroll
yeah but in aus you really get 20
waxen scroll
you should get an LTE router then
covert ibex
$50/w for 30gb
waxen scroll
i pay $30/m for 1gb
covert ibex
Welcome to Australia..
Where internet sucks, and everything tries to kill you..
waxen scroll
and guess what
i can take my phone overseas, it will work within a few minutes of landing, LTE speeds in most countries, same bill rates
😄
covert ibex
Roaming charges... Oh god, don't mention those here..
waxen scroll
most US carriers make you pay like $40+/m for an international addon which gets you 3G speed and 400mb data
covert ibex
Roaming charges for Telstra are $10/day for 200mb
waxen scroll
also TIL it uses an US based IP on foreign networks so i keep access to US services that block other countries
like netflix
@rocky badge get in on it
rocky badge
covert ibex
@waxen scroll
Wow.. "extra data charged at $3 per mb.
waxen scroll
yeah im telling you international plans are bullshit
you buy it, you use it, you get punished fast
thick minnow
@waxen scroll My Networking professor said he’d grade everyone’s Project assignment this week.
He mentioned he got really backed up due to work/meetings he had to attend. He apologized for the delay.
thick minnow
IDK, I never looked at them, even if I wanted too I probably couldn’t unless I asked them to share it with me.
waxen scroll
😭
thick minnow
Don’t worry LZ, I’m sure my grade will be fine.
waxen scroll
we're gonna blame Lurick if it goes tits up
thick minnow
Also SHTAP crying M8, Nerds™ don’t cry.
Instead of crying Nerds™ leak their opponents browsing history. 
You didn’t hear that from me.
If you really want to mess with someone: Go to a CMD terminal window and clear their client device IP Routes including the default gateway.
That’s according to what my networking professor said. lol
You’d have to do a:
ipconfig /renew
In order to reset everything back to normal.
hollow marlin
As far as I know you cannot remove a default route on a DHCP connection on windows.
thick minnow
Try it on your PC at home, open up chrome, do what I stated above without renewing , and see if you can refresh the webpage.
If you can, than I was wrong with my information. If you can’t than do what I stated above and see if that fixes it.
hollow marlin
Well yeah if you remove your default route you cannot get out of your network. I am just saying I dont think you can clear dynamically learned defaults.
I never tried though so I could also be wrong
hollow marlin
lol well TIL
@thick minnow what network projects did your professor have this week?
thick minnow
@hollow marlin None as of yet, however he mentioned that the final project will be available to the students to access, however he hasn’t decided on what the actual project assignment will be yet.
Hopefully that answers your question.
little schooner
Me I just want to get my Trig class over with so I can take my core networking classes already
Trig is the kind of class that makes you question life
Don't know how hard the engineers have it though
covert ibex
3D quadratics is about as hard as my job gets.
(Engineer - fitting and turning/machining)
And having to remember trig charts from memory.. but... The former is harder..
little schooner
It would help if my teacher would grade homework, because basically the structure of the class is test grades and class participation
so it's very easy to fail if you mess up on tests. usually with a homework grade of 10%-15%, it could offset the failing grade to get you at least C-
but no, this prof, in the beginning was teaching like he wanted to show off his knowledge
covert ibex
Last I.T programming teacher I had was a "head" of I.T, and literally didn't know how to program.
Spent the first half of each lecture googling something to program, put it up on a projector, and gave the rest of the lecture to try and get it done before the end.
I quite literally did everything and stored it on a student drive and everybody handed in the same thing.
Couldn't tell us off, he didn't know any better.
hollow marlin
@little schooner Have you tried starting your CCENT or CCNA before your core networking class?
covert ibex
@waxen scroll
Best managed switch under $200 us?
Fiber would be nice if I had to buy two.
hollow marlin
@covert ibex Mikrotik CRS326-24G-2S+RM
little schooner
@hollow marlin I do have my CCNA. for the associates degree, yes I did 4 networking courses in succession and that helped me nab that at least
although, I will confess, some of the things I learned I do not remember too well.
but the core concepts are solid
hollow marlin
Sweet. Yeah you will forget things until you have daily exposure . I am almost complete my CCNP and going over some material showed me how much I forgot in my CCNA.
little schooner
I had a change in mind about the value of ccnp and will go for it in the near future
a goal I suppose
hollow marlin
Its worth it. It really gives you are strong backbone in route and switch. Bitch of exams though
covert ibex
@hollow marlin
That, or a Ubiquiti Networks ER-X-sfp.
What would you rather?
little schooner
@covert ibex do you think it's foolish to buy a 10G uplink switch when we will be expect 48 computers to be on the same lan? shouldn't I be getting 40gbps?
or if anyone else has input on this
waxen scroll
Where does the uplink go
little schooner
@waxen scroll to a switch that has quad 10g ports
the file servers are on the switch with quad 10g with two of there nics connected in lacp 10g
waxen scroll
Then yes. 10g
Plenty of places are doing single 10g to serve 200 ports and it works fine
It all depends on what type of traffic uses it. Most people aren't hitting the file server all day
little schooner
what if more than 13 of them are all download from the file server
like big ISO files. this is a lab env
waxen scroll
Then they wait a little longer
little schooner
but I've noticed that it also brings down the internet while that's happening
is this a candidate for qos?
waxen scroll
It shouldn't bring down the internet if everything is first in first out
Just slower
little schooner
So slow that it takes forever for websites to load
we measured 30 seconds for one page
because there isn't any bandwidth left in the switch
waxen scroll
What's the backplane bandwidth
little schooner
well it's 48 port gbps switch so that would be double 48gbps but... right now our uplink is a single gig link to another switch
single gig uplink for 24 pcs
the future upgrade will handle 40-48 PCs in future
little schooner
Basically I have to assist another proposal begging business dept to pay for the upgrade
but if I get it wrong it looks bad lol
little schooner
I'll bring it up to the teacher
our last proposal for Intel 8700 workstations for 1.3k each was approved last week
so that was our first success. we're buying 25 of them
it will be better than all the other computer labs in the school
waxen scroll
40g+ might be way out of your budget
So the module for 40g uplink and one sfp is $3600 in Cisco world without discount and that's before buying the switch that supports that module
Then your core switch also needs to support 40g
clear igloo
I've got a handful of 40G QSFP in my pocket for you @waxen scroll 😛
Also you forgot about 40 to 4x10Gb breakouts
little schooner
@waxen scroll does it matter if we use fiber or copper cable for the uplink port between the switches?
hallow quail
wow, this is some hardcore networking discussion
little schooner
@waxen scroll so it looks like the switch we ended up with is Dell 48port with 2 sfp+, with stacking and console support
the rationale was the two rooms were connecting are actually going to have their own switches and then link up over a single 10g uplink
so 2 sfp+ per switch was okay
with the other sfp+ having the potentional to connect to a single server for file share
waxen scroll
But muh cisco
little schooner
@waxen scroll They said Cisco was too expensive
little schooner
my teacher teach Cisco over the internet
waxen scroll
@clear igloo devry taught Cisco but used juniper in the DC
clear igloo
shrug
little schooner
every student is going to have dual monitors too
so it's going to be sick
now, a proper cybersecurity lab
clear igloo
Remember, there is a quickly diminishing return after 3 monitors
waxen scroll
Cisco will give big education discounts. Will dell?
little schooner
yes massive discounts
waxen scroll
So use cisco!
waxen scroll
Cisco laughed at us too. Then we bought 10000 HP switches
Then they decided oh wait, we were joking
Oops.
little schooner
haha too late
Dell in live chat wanted to know so much about the environment
and suggested to suggest hardware
waxen scroll
They wanted us to commit to like 5 million in spend over a time period to keep our huge discount
We said bye
little schooner
5m....
wth
that could cause the cost of. tuition to go up for all students to cover it
in fact it is going up by 5%
waxen scroll
Then they left the discount alone when we bought HP
little schooner
Any things to watch out for when configuring Dell switches?
shouldn't it work like a NETGEAR or edgeswitch?
little schooner
I bet I have yeah
clear igloo
He works for that company with the office near the place
In that city with the people
little schooner
very generic hint
I am helping him out over the summer
we are also getting 30 routers and 30 switches
clear igloo
Carefully
clear igloo
Many tools, there is rarely a single pain of glass for everything these days
waxen scroll
Many tools. It's too big for a single tool
little schooner
okay. yeah I didn't know I always wondered
waxen scroll
Sometimes a single tool can't handle that many devices
waxen scroll
For example netflow. Many of the modern netflow appliances just can't scale to handle it, or the scale is too expensive
clear igloo
Yah, and netflow is just one part of the equation too
clear igloo
SNMP or Telemetry is another part, config management, device upgrades, refreshes, etc. all play into things as well
little schooner
I've seen how config management can make troubleshooting easier. and even point out who did the change
I'd say value add
waxen scroll
We have teams dedicated to just doing wireless all day. Load balancer, firewall, infosec, campus lans, wan, data center lan
All these teams
There's more, I'm not listing them all
Its a curse because you can't learn those skills and take them to smaller jobs, but it's a blessing because there's so much work if you did all of them at once
My job is data center switching and wan
One of the few that can legit take the company down with a bad config
#nopressure
little schooner
heh that's a plateload right there
where's a good place to buy outdoor rated ethernet cable? I'm looking in the classroom here and this projector ethernet cable looks so thick and high quality
it doesn't list the brand but it looks so good to use for outside too
some from Amazon I got ended up not performing so well
Some say tripplite has quality cables because of thicker gauge.. hmm
https://www.tripplite.com/products/custom-cables-made-to-order that's pretty cool they have this
waxen scroll
@clear igloo tell them about the nervousness that fades after doing operations a while
clear igloo
It takes time but eventually you come to know the equipment you work on and stuff and the people and who is/isn't capable of what
waxen scroll
After so many outages you get numb
Not in a hurry to solve it with people screaming
😵
waxen scroll
waxen scroll
@clear igloo update us on your home assistant
humble quarry
if I converted an ethernet cable to a phone line port and plugged that into a router's dsl input, would it take that network?
looking to reuse an old router but it only takes the 6 pin rather than 8, sorry if this is a silly question
waxen scroll
It would
covert ibex
@humble quarry
As long as you wire it to the correct lines, rj45 to rj11 works fine. (Ive done that at home and it's worked for the past 4 months)
humble quarry
are your speeds decent? the incoming line gives me 30mbps
covert ibex
As long as it's terminated correctly, speeds aren't effected.
humble quarry
my dorm limits our devices to 6 registered MAC adresses so I hoped picking up a router will let me get around it with some masking
covert ibex
Router/managed switch will do the same thing.
humble quarry
Perfect
waxen scroll
you should ask why they're taking your money and limiting the network you paid for
;p
hallow quail
they’ll probably say to stop the dirty pirates
hollow marlin
More like limited CAM tables
waxen scroll
cisco made an lol
no remote options now, sorry
thats not how you get the best talent
hollow marlin
Job posting with emojis...hmmm
clear igloo
@waxen scroll You mean full time remote? Yah, I think they prefer to have support engineers in the office most of the time
waxen scroll
both full time remote and part time work at home
clear igloo
Yah, usually they have the option to work from home but they prefer the support engineers to be in the office whenever possible
hollow marlin
There is no way I could work from home full time
waxen scroll
@hollow marlin i wont even go for a first interview if i find out the job is 0 work at home days
😄
let them keep bitching about how hard it is to find network engineers
clear igloo
It depends a lot on the team policy too, I've seen it vary wildly from team to team on that stuff which makes things a little tricky to gauge
hollow marlin
@waxen scroll I do like occasional days at home but man....productivity...its just gone
waxen scroll
@clear igloo poor mcdonalds is still looking for that network architect. its been a year
lets move IT to the city! so progressive! so much talent!
clear igloo
haha, Chicago be expensive 😛
waxen scroll
if my job were to ship IT to chicago and i caved in about working in chicago, im going one building over to a trading firm for an immediate $50k raise after bonus
clear igloo
I'm dreading the stupid "open cube" concept that's coming in another year or two =/
waxen scroll
they did move most of their IT jobs to chicago recently and i wasnt affected
we've had open cube forever, but now im losing my cube next month and everything is shared
they made huge mistakes on real estate decisions and oops. they got boxed in
now they have to shut some offices and merge them
cant have reserved spots
clear igloo
ouch
waxen scroll
they tried to back out somewhat and the building owners went NOPE, rent is 50% more if you come back
since im not under NDA for this one and dont give a crap about McD
heres some LOLs about their new office
hollow marlin
@clear igloo it's not too bad. We moved to it last year.
waxen scroll
they brought CDW in to fit the building with a new state of the art network
didnt give a fuck about their engineers
this happens more often than you think
CDW designs and deploys, you purchase the equipment from CDW
clear igloo
@hollow marlin Yah, I'm hoping it doesn't turn out to be terrible so I've got my fingers crossed 😃
waxen scroll
do you think McD got some shiney new 9000 series?
clear igloo
dusty old 2950 probably
waxen scroll
CDW sold 6500s to them with sup 2Ts, called them state of the art and new, and at the time the SUP was going to be EOL in like 3 months
clear igloo
lol, wow
waxen scroll
uh huh
so after the project was handed over... CDW met their obligation
and McD over a small amount of time went UHHHHHH
they had to rip and replace almost everything
meanwhile McD execs are telling our company how good of a job CDW did while McD IT told our IT... RUN.
so our execs made some sort of sketchy deal and CDW is working our project
all of CDWs proposals have been shit
the execs wanted state of the art and they designed a basic network that most of us could have done in an hour
so why were they brought in?
clear igloo
Someone knows someone I'm sure
waxen scroll
you want a conspiracy?
some exec prob thought CDW could replace our network teams (they were pushing managed services in meetings)
the whole engagement is biting them in the ass and they wont fire CDW
clear igloo
Sounds about right
waxen scroll
meanwhile our VAR who isnt CDW is staring at this going "what the fuck guys?"
@little schooner they dont teach you this in class
forget configuring, look at all the politics
if you think your plan is good, the price is good, and the gear is solid... some exec somewhere is gonna shit all over it and tell you to use the high risk design
two years later when the company is offline for a few hours, you better have that email
clear igloo
Yup^^^
hallow quail
I've yet to come across an executive where I work at who wasn't completely tech illiterate yet made decisions on tech
heck, here are IT managers who really shouldn't be IT managers, but I have to deal with them if I want to get our department's problems solved
waxen scroll
:\
"agile" is another stupid concept
i dont know how it wasnt taken out back and shot yet
every time i get involved with a fast moving project, all the wrong decisions are made... IT orders are made around those decisions
then the requirements change a week later
WAN lead times are min 3 months, equipment is min 1 month
and with WAN, once you sign the order deals done
for example, our public IP space is low.... this dude goes "OK we need 4 more public IPs now"
"oh we knew all along. you didnt need to know"
lets see
two expensive WAN circuits ordered and install completed.... a month later, they close the site
the business wants to cut costs but the business itself LOVES secrets
so it costs everyone MORE
those are two examples i can pull out of my head, but it has been much worse than that in the past
...another company i worked at
ordered 300 cisco ASAs
firewalls to all sites! they said
they sat on them and got hit with cisco clock issues
RMA all of them!
to this day i dont think they even have more than 20 installed
@thick minnow they dont teach in school
pseudo blade
@humble quarry Your clarification after your question about adapting RJ45 to RJ11 suggest to me that you're trying to plug this router's V/ADSL port into an ethernet uplink.
I can confirm that will not work.
You'll need a router that has two routable ethernet interfaces.
Depending on what router you have, you may not require a new one, you might just have to plug in differently. Tell us the model and we can provide better instructions.
pseudo blade
my dorm limits our devices to 6 registered MAC adresses so I hoped picking up a router will let me get around it with some masking @waxen scroll
little schooner
Nothing like a game of chess without exclaiming "Ping me! Ping me!" @thick minnow
covert ibex
@waxen scroll
Thought he just wanted to use the cable.
Didn't think about that.
Maybe I do need more than 2 hours sleep a night when answering questions..
thick minnow
@little schooner I could probably beat you in a game of chess. The looser has to reset all the running configurations of the L2 or L3 switches in their own network.
😉 Maniacal Laughter
hollow marlin
@thick minnow Thats no fun. Loser has to remove all management interfaces instead and disable STP
covert ibex
Loser has to factory reset all L2/3 switches and reconfigure as required on the opposing players network.
Play for high stakes.
pseudo blade
Ha. My network has no switches, only routers.
Even the device at my desk is a router, not just a switch. (has a switch ASIC in it, but that's basically just to multiply ports, and routeros treats them as routable ports).
covert ibex
Ok.. *devices
Are either of the following able to give me a way of connecting to the network remotely?
Mikrotik CRS326-24G-2S+RM
Ubiquiti Networks ER-X-sfp
Or am I limited to some kind of http UI?..
pseudo blade
Both support VPNs, both as a client and as a server.
If any of the supported protocols are to your liking, you'll probably want to do the VPN on the Edgerouter X because it has hardware crypto acceleration (plus if that's the network edge it's one less thing to forward).
IPsec + L2TP is fastest but depending on what's NATing in front of it you may need to use OpenVPN instead.
Is this just for monitoring and configuration, or do you need real throughput?
covert ibex
Monitoring mostly.
Anything else would be under 1mbps.
They'll be connected directly to the modem so almost network edge.
green gazelle
Did you all see either looks like LMG replaced their unifi with Cisco.
covert ibex
Probably some kind of good deal, or personal support setup
clear igloo
@green gazelle Where? On Twitter?
Ah yes, looks like they got the new Meraki WiFi 6 APs 😄
@waxen scroll Just wait until the Catalyst 9100 APs roll out
hollow marlin
430/430mbps.... c'mon. Those are rookie numbers
waxen scroll
Wot
There's no way Linus going to pay yearly licensing to use meraki
Maybe it's for a video
little schooner
that's some serious dough they have to shell out
hollow marlin
@waxen scroll he had to shell it out. I can't see Cisco ever sponsoring a YTer
waxen scroll
That feel when meraki doesn't support tunneling on their APs without a separate expensive appliance
Cisco did sponsor him before but not with gear that he could keep
It was a Cisco office tour of some kind that showcased some tech
little schooner
It's not like Cisco to just give a crazy good deal to someone like linus
waxen scroll
Right. They don't. You need to spend millions to get close to a good deal
They HATE giving big discounts
little schooner
millions huh...
waxen scroll
Perhaps meraki sales isn't closely part of Cisco yet and are more liberal.
I get more than 50% off retail
I can't say actual number
But it's more
Lol
clear igloo
lol, same 😛
waxen scroll
You cheat
clear igloo
😦
waxen scroll
One of you tag an admin and ask
Since none of us have robo buyers to get office tour tickets
clear igloo
I'll just walk up and give Linus some Meraki licenses xD
waxen scroll
I'm close to getting banned so I don't want to push that button
🤔
@rocky badge do it
Why don't you give me free APs and licenses
I can't do the free AP webinar because we're forbidden from accepting bribes
clear igloo
lol
waxen scroll
And then my name will be on some sales list
Time for IT career advice @little schooner
If you have engineer and above titles. Do 👏 not 👏 post 👏 your 👏 company 👏 name 👏 on 👏 LinkedIn
Sales spam galore to your work email
@clear igloo I usually social engineer sales people
If you can call it that
I'll send fake bounce backs or auto replies that say my last day was last week
thick minnow
Yikes, LinkedIn sounds bad...
I’m going to go over my entire account later and disable all communication and email preferences.
Like I said in the past, I’m only primarily using this online platform/service to see what jobs are out there and to connect with employers, that’s literally it.
waxen scroll
They aren't scraping the email you put on LinkedIn, they are looking at your company and guessing the email syntax and when it hits your inbox with no bounce back they know it's a live email
I would secure your account anyway
That's why I send fake bounce backs when I think it's a robot
If it's a human I do fake "I don't work here anymore"
If they emailed your personal email from LinkedIn, you have a lawsuit if you're American
I'm not 100% sure the rules about unsolicited commercial email to a work email when you didn't sign up for the list
thick minnow
Eh, I did put in my personal gmail email for now, but I may switch it over to my college email IDK.
pine panther
o boi
hallow nimbus
😂
strong escarp
Hello guys. Can anyone help me with Pfsense settings? I'm trying to block off all the countries in PFblocked except Pakistan. Its still not working. I followed a tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M81kFLEhhZQ
rocky badge
@waxen scroll wot
pine panther
tow @rocky badge
little schooner
okay so we just spent $22k on equipment for workstations and dell networking switch for the lab
life will be good next semester for the students
hollow marlin
Only $22k? Do you even care about your students....
waxen scroll
its the students money
i felt GUILTY when i worked at uni
like.... man. im not helping why student loan costs are so high
my salary alone was like 2-3 students total tuition
so on napkin math it takes ~9 students yearly tuition
what the university presidents and sports people make is truly disgusting though
people gotta stop giving these places money
hollow marlin
@waxen scroll I was going the other way with it but that is also true. lol
little schooner
@hollow marlin my friend, that 22k nets 20 Dell workstations with 8700s, 256GB ssd, 1TB HDD, vga adapter, 16GB of RAM and 20 dual monitor stands with a Dell 48 port 1gbps and dual sfp+ 10g uplinks
They will be living the good life now
in fact, these machines are so vaulable that now we have to start locking them with lock cables
because chances are HIGH that they will steal this equipment in their backpack
we came from dell optiplex 780s...
hollow marlin
God I havent heard 780 in years. I mean they were decent then.
little schooner
yeah whateverX improvement :p
hollow marlin
What class are these for?
little schooner
its for a cyber security lab
it supposed to be a network of operations room later on for other courses, too
I was caught by surprise when they approved the purchase order
like what?? business dept actually sees the needs of IT for once?
hollow marlin
No IT is still considered a waste lol
little schooner
granted though, this equipment will NOT be handled by IT
Its up to the teacher to manage everything
hollow marlin
Hopefully they make full use of it
It would be sweet to have that power and a test machine to brute force
little schooner
Yeah. I sure hope so. I will be helping out with the deployment a bit
we have MDT setup so imaging should be a breeze
no budget for SCCM or other deployment tools like KACE
and what have you
hollow marlin
Note, make sure ALL cyber security/security equipment is sectioned off on the network
little schooner
lol thats funny
because he basically let the students run wild this semester with everything accessible
Yes, we will change it for real this time
hollow marlin
Yeah thats a liability
little schooner
Surprisingly though, they've been behaving with the equipment
hollow marlin
Most will but most are still new to it too
little schooner
Yeah. He teaches intro courses so we get lots of newcomers
I monitor them here and there but im strictly still volunteer for him
hollow marlin
Its a good side gig then
unreal wedge
@waxen scroll you know I have a life, right.
unreal wedge
Got two Xeons coming Wednesday.
waxen scroll
my favorite word is no
then they see us as inflexible and outsource... then realize oops. the old IT was right
unreal wedge
Guy I used to work for was like that on security. Wonders why shit was constantly hacked before I came along.
waxen scroll
@thick minnow IT career lesson #376... you know you've made it when someone in a position of power asks you for/about something and you tell them "no. i dont want to do that"
sometimes the idea is that stupid
dont do it just to do it
🍒
little schooner
@waxen scroll idk I just like the prospect of securing the network at my school because the environment is fairly straightforward
My teacher still let's the students access all our network infrastructure and servers with no firewall
Just the webpage but they don't have credentials so
He saw it as "good enough" security without having to jump through so many hoops
Like ssh keys to access server is too much to manage and only allowing access to segmented vlans from admin station was too burdensome
covert ibex
@little schooner
Aus government schools are all on one big network.
Including the education departments of the government. Can, and have printed to the minister of education's printer before.
For reference, it's called the "ultranet".
little schooner
wow that is one gigantic network then...
so flat, you could sell the "lan" land for big money even
xD
half valley
I think I remember reading about that
covert ibex
Basically designed like that so schools could share resources and classes could work with classes around the country on projects together and see how other schools did things.
To the I.T classes, it became a big joke, and a few weeks of what we where not allowed to do, and why you shouldn't ever set up a network like that.
And the headaches it caused when they told every school "no servers are to be on vlans, because theirs government computers on the same network, so they'll need access for security reasons"
Made a huge amount of sysadmins pissed.
dire hearth
Slight problem that I have, I run mikrotik devices for my network and I've setup vpn between the locations. In each location other than the HQ I've setup a route that makes all traffic (including internet) to go via the vpn. In the HQ I have a PFSense box and I want to route all traffic that is in the main router in the HQ to that pfsense. Routing local traffic from the HQ to the pfsense works but not from the other locations, those still exit through the router and not the pfsense. Can anyone assist me?
waxen scroll
i got a little confused.... so HQ internet access is routing to the pfsense but for some reason remote sites are going to another router for internet access?
i assume at the end of the day though, all connections are going to pfsense anyway because its the only way to the internet?
@clear igloo LIVE ACTION
clear igloo
who what where when why how?
waxen scroll
we got us sum LIVVVVEEEE action here
clear igloo
This calls for ACTION MAN!!!!!
waxen scroll
LTT doesnt see many harder network questions
xD
@covert ibex i once had a networking professor ask if he can have layer 2 between two labs (in two different campuses) and let that traffic ride our prod MPLS network
n-no
lab traffic over prod 😦
as a student i would think that would be bitchin cause we can see an actual WAN working
as an IT person... n-no
we told him to go buy some comcast and keep it away from us
i dont think he ever did. budgets are a pain
radiant crane
@waxen scroll That would also be a no from me dawg lol
clear igloo
shrug I'm not sales 😛
waxen scroll
you are /the/ company
clear igloo
I am? Where's my massive salary then 😛
waxen scroll
says the guy whose past 100k
clear igloo
HAHAHA. I wish 😦
clear igloo
Yah, I got hired in at a low grade and they've been working me up but still not at that 6 figure mark yet
waxen scroll
im having problems where they hire me, the pay is where i want-ish (dont talk to me about the bonus) but for the life of me, nobody wants to give me over the base title
whether thats network engineer, IT engineer 1, etc
clear igloo
Ooof
waxen scroll
once place i got in writing they would senior me after a good review
i got a good review
nothing.
:3
thick minnow
E
waxen scroll
wat
thick minnow
tWAT
My brain runs in half duplex all the time.
😎👍
Did some cool stuff with SSH yesterday in work experience
Woah, LIT.
🙃👏
Yeah considering I take a networking course and we still haven't done this 
thick minnow
Ah good old SSH, which version you using @thick minnow?
Well tutor said it was ssh but
I used Putty to control the VM machine we were using which was running ESXi 5.5
So used it to control that and fix the shit because HP servers are literal trash
little schooner
@waxen scroll You can count our lab for using PFSense. My teacher decided that it was worthwhile to get free updates for the router instead of being behind a paywall for updates from A Cisco or A dell or A xxxx company
little schooner
@thick minnow Ive done esxi upgrades over ssh too. Its very safe and fast.
thick minnow
We didn't even upgrade.
little schooner
Im just saying
thick minnow
We deleted the raid that was existing which was 1+0 and created a new one using raid 5
butfor some reason even though we wiped the drives completely
the partition was still there from the HP shit
So we had to go into it via that and do it
which was annoying
Took a while to figure out how to even access the RAID options
little schooner
Oh so you're talking about actually sshing to the server management itself
not necessaisily the esxi os
yes, dell has that support too. You can control stuff in idrac and raid from a shell if you know the commands
I dont know how HP's docs are, but dells are very well detailed and documented
thick minnow
Well we had to ssh into the server to format the drives and delete partitions
I really wanna set up a home network but oh my god I'm trash at researching
;-;
little schooner
Oh, that should be easy enough. But it depends what you want to do.
Like I built a home lab because I wanted to do things with it
you dont really build if there isn't anything engaging you will do with it
I've seen people ask on reddit asking what should I do now? after they purchased all the homelab stuff
@thick minnow You can start with something like a cheap netgear, trendnet switch or edgeswitch from ubitiquity. And purchase a rack mount server and a dell r710 server for cheap on ebay
Then virtualize with ESXi free edition, or install Hyper-v if you will install windows on it. Or throw a linux distro
@waxen scroll Wow I never realized how cheap people sell their dell poweredge servers on ebay before until I started searching today for the first time
clear igloo
@little schooner ESXi is free until you need vCenter 😃
thick minnow
Ya servers are cheap
little schooner
@waxen scroll yay politics. That's what my house is full of during political season
my mom and I
@clear igloo oh true. But wait, isn't there an Essentials version thats like $300?
I guess its better than $2500 for the next version
clear igloo
Maybe, I'm not really up-to-date on all the versions and whatnot
clear igloo
Ah, that's vSphere though
ESXI is just the hypervisor, vSphere is for easy management of multiple instances
little schooner
@clear igloo
clear igloo
Yah, they include ESXI with just about all of them but the vCenter stuff is what's being paid for
little schooner
right
for $300 ish
I guess thats a viable entrypoint
without having to pay like $1000sss
clear igloo
Yah
little schooner
@clear igloo intensifies https://store.vmware.com/store/vmware/en_US/pd/productID.285645500
clear igloo
lol, I guess if someone REALLY need vmotion and HA
little schooner
yeah ikr xD
vmotion is a PREMIUM omg
@waxen scroll lets just say she didn't like last election's outcome
fresh copper
I’m sad that Microsoft got rid of the thing where students could get free Windows Server keys. Now you can only get it if the school is signed up for it. You can get Azure credit but I want a copy on my own hypervisor.
This is one of the reasons that I dislike Windows so much
waxen scroll
i use to pay out yearly for technet even though i barely used it
they ruined that too
nobody wants to lab AD or whatever where you have to start fresh every 30 days or whatever it is
little schooner
@fresh copper oh yeah I remember they used to have server 2012 for free with server keys. Yep. I miss those days too
@waxen scroll Is there restrictions with the Microsoft imagine versions of Server 2019 on usage in a home environment?
I gave it a read through but I did not see any mentions about processor limitations, user cals
waxen scroll
i dont know anything about Microsoft imagine
little schooner
Its basically Dreamspark, which was like a place edu users get microsoft software for free or low cost if you were in a school
My teacher almost got in trouble because he was using the wrong licenses in the classroom
waxen scroll
as long as you use it only for lab, who cares. MS not gonna sue a student with a legal base software
😄
little schooner
Thats what I figured lol
Now if I had a business, I'd probably go for Standard edition
but if its very small, maybe essentials version with free 25 user cals
There were cracked versions of office 2010 in a refurbishing business
I dont know what happened to them since they are unlisted
But basically the students would come in the summer and do data entry on cracked versions of office
waxen scroll
kek
harsh rain
Hello i have a question. So am heading to a friend house tomorrow for a Lan but we won't have internet he does not have a router or a switch nor a modems and was wondering if we can use a ethernet cord and just hook are pc together just to join each other worlds and stuff could this work?
unreal wedge
Technically. Google it. There's a few guides about it.
You'll need static IPs on the machines. Then they should be able to see each other. Maybe also kill the firewall.
harsh rain
thx
clear igloo
Static IPs help but aren't needed since Windows will make it's own APIPA address 😃
little schooner
@clear igloo How does one manage APIPA addresses? the answer should be "you dont" right?
clear igloo
Exactly, they're just generated automatically by the system in the 169.254.0.0/16 range
little schooner
My teacher wanted to use it but it wasn't a good idea
clear igloo
Since you have no DHCP server for tracking the clients should still ping to see if the address is in use but yah, you have no easy way to track like you do with a DNS and DHCP server
unreal wedge
Uh no, we mods manually send those @waxen scroll
waxen scroll
RIP.
fresh copper
I’ve done the most janky thing ever. Well . . . not Linus janky but close
thick minnow
Wot N’ Tarnation...
fresh copper
The PCI risers in the server are in such a way that as of yet, I can’t get the card in properly. So I have and extender and the only way the extender wants to work is by having it outside the case for now.
The server also has no power cables so I have to have an extra PSU. It won’t be going into a rack for a while so it’s fine for now.
spice ledge
Love the music sheets there
fresh copper
That’s the only paper I had around to insulate
eternal tinsel
How do you make it so you can transfer files between a mac machine and a windows PC via ethernet cable?
unreal wedge
A router and a transfer medium. Maybe Samba.
little schooner
@unreal wedge if it isn't samba, does Apple prefer nfs for file sharing or something else proprietary?
unreal wedge
Possibly. Look at brew
covert ibex
@eternal tinsel
stoic anvil
python3 -m http.server
unreal wedge
fresh copper
Apple deprecated afp a long time ago so smb is the main one but I’m sure nfs works too
thick minnow
Or you could just use FileZilla and connect to your Windows computer.
waxen scroll
Hi
covert ibex
Hi
clear igloo
Ahoy hoy
hallow nimbus
👀
umbral tide
Hey I have a question, can I make a web login for my hotspot on my Android?
Yes I know you can just make a password but I need a web login for reasons
unreal wedge
Not without root and a webserver running on the phone, with a forced redirect as clients connect to the phone.
fresh copper
@eternal tinsel that’s the easiest way but you can just directly connect them and manually assign IPs to each
eternal tinsel
and I can still connect to the regular internet even though I have manual IP's?
fresh copper
As long as you don’t set a gateway then any internet traffic will go over your standard connection rather than the direct one
eternal tinsel
yeeee
thick minnow
How's it going Networking Nerds™ ❓
BERT
Bit Error Rate Tester
BER = Bit errors / Bits transmitted
clear igloo
At least go with something new 😛
thick minnow
Nice, what is that a newer version of that?
clear igloo
It's something in this century, yes
Generates traffic, route scale, etc. and can do convergence testing, error testing, and a heck of a lot more
thick minnow
Sounds like an expensive piece of networking hardware.
clear igloo
Very expensive
Linecards can range from like $50K up to $1mill+ depending on the speed, scale, port density, etc.
thick minnow
Interesting...
clear igloo
Obviously that's all new prices and if you really wanted to mess with something cheap there is old like 100 meg or gig ports on ebay for a few hundred or so
clear igloo
Not for my testing no
When you say cable certifiers you're talking about like making sure they conform to spec and whatnot?
thick minnow
I guess, I'm not really sure what you mean by spec.
It's usually to check throughput I think.
clear igloo
like TIA/EIA electrical spec for copper as an example. Making sure they can handle the stated MHz rating
thick minnow
Yeah, I guess so.
clear igloo
Throughput is just tested with a traffic generator like Spirent or Ixia
thick minnow
Crimper
clear igloo
Ah, like making sure the crimped cable works?
thick minnow
No, I'm just posting some pictures from my textbook here.
clear igloo
Ah, lol
thick minnow
Sharing what I'm reading/learning.
clear igloo
Yah, I use traffic generators all the time to verify scale, QoS, failures, and a whole host of other things
thick minnow
Fiber Optic Loopback Plug
hollow marlin
That would be very dangerous on 40km optics
thick minnow
OTDR
little schooner
@thick minnow crimpers have a satisfying clicky noise when there isn't a cable sitting under the blade
hollow marlin
@little schooner better question is why did someone terminate cat5 under a white board
green gazelle
I have seen it where it used to be teachers had to bring their own computers (department paid for) in and since the teacher desk is usually at the front it was a short cable hop. Now they generally are removing the desks and putting in standing desks with builtin shared computers..
hollow marlin
Still doesnt explain why they put it in the middle of the white board. There will never be a podium there