VSCode is my default for a lot of stuff lol
#networking
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stoic tendon
imma get into practising python
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I use it for .pems π
pseudo blade
Certified VS Code User
stoic tendon
maybe ill be able to code a simple website with python
pseudo blade
simple website with Python
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aaaaaaaaaaaa
slow belfry
no ease
stoic tendon
whats wrong with that?
strange silo
just do is using classic ASP
slow belfry
..
strange silo
haha
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my website is just static HTML 
pseudo blade
Backend can be Python if you must, but it doesn't really work all that well (GIL)
gritty owl
^
pseudo blade
I use S3 buckets.
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CloudFront + S3 https://blob.linusdrop.tips/e87c08c190.png
slow belfry
My core is php, don't laugh at it cause the things I can do with it is just amazing, and I certainly communicate with Python APIs I built
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points and laughs
slow belfry
π
covert ibex
"points harder"
pseudo blade
I wouldn't use PHP for new things.
slow belfry
I do, I use it for 8 years now.
pseudo blade
Fair enough.
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how big is my ShareX bucket...
south ruin
i would normally use php for backend work
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, my ShareX bucket has 2995 images
stoic tendon
meanwhile reading turtle graphics docs for python
covert ibex
@rocky badge
south ruin
apache or nginx?
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neither :P
slow belfry
Caddy
strange silo
IIS
slow belfry
EWW NO
strange silo
I win
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I use IIS internally lol
south ruin
Nah Bro - Lighthttpd
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slow belfry
Also, for our website lighttpd
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slow belfry
kill your web server ehh nothing @rocky badge
slow belfry
oh yeez
south ruin
for some reason all the college computers have iis installed
means i cant use port 80 π
strange silo
forgot to name/delete some servers there
south ruin
but why
slow belfry
Company π
stoic tendon
jeez idk where to start reading docs
slow belfry
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10.0.10.2 is bitching about TMP 2.0
slow belfry
nodes
strange silo
hold my beer
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xD
slow belfry
hehehehe
well yes, big cluster. spread across 3 datacenters with 40G storage link and 10G internet
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At school we have 100 Gigabit in the core 
strange silo
slow belfry
We don't need that shit, storage duplication is done within seconds xd
strange silo
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vSphere π
strange silo
80/20 Windows to Linux
slow belfry
more Linux!
south ruin
^^
strange silo
good luck getting windows applications working on linux properly for these things lol
south ruin
only cli as well
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6 Linux / 2 Windows Server in my vSphere. Then vCSA
slow belfry
What windows applications?
strange silo
enough to require 1000 vms
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VDI?
strange silo
different cluster, not shown
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ah
slow belfry
leadeater, what windows applications?
strange silo
too many to mention
slow belfry
example of?
strange silo
they are all business applications
gritty owl
windows updates
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MS SQL?
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megaoof
slow belfry
Hmmm fair. I would never use MS SQL, but if it is required for your application. Then use it indeed.
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We have a couple of servers running Server 2012 R2 just for SCCM....
slow belfry
We had our rDNS servers running on Windows, but I recently automated it and now only our AD is running on Windows (for the Home path)
strange silo
Dunno why people are anti MSSQL anyway, other than pricing but then Oracle pricing sucks more
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ORACLE
south ruin
sqlite best!
strange silo
but we have both, as well as postgre and mysql
slow belfry
sqlite corrupts easily
south ruin
or just put json in a file π
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vCenter: MORE RAM
slow belfry
generate json from a database engine
strange silo
oh you have more ram? let me use all of that, you need more ram
gritty owl
MORE RAM
south ruin
shit my comment was taken seriously π
strange silo
lol
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vpshere.blob best
NOOOOOOOOO https://blob.linusdrop.tips/047026a448.png
I WILL NOT (caps caps)
strange silo
do it
gritty owl
just do it
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reeeee
slow belfry
2 shared hosting vm's, each +/- 800 websites
strange silo
my home server has enough, why doesn't yours? :p
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xD
slow belfry
both machines have both 1.2 T storage, on ceph so replicated across all 3 nodes
strange silo
@slow belfry That your work setup or home?
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vMotion
strange silo
oh nvm lol
stoic tendon
tell me where to start reading turtle graphics do cs lol
gritty owl
vblob
strange silo
What you really want is vCenter as a service from AWS, so cheap......
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LOOOOL
strange silo
we priced something up for that, wasn't big but it was going to be $30k/month
noooooope
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
stoic tendon
jesus i did an autocontrast thing on my monitor and now discord is blue
strange silo
10% sRGB colour space π
strange silo
factory reset?
strange silo
so better
stoic tendon
why am i so bad when it comes to monitors
strange silo
using all IaaS
stoic tendon
I have the best monitor gui
i did a factory reset
much better
now help me with turtle graphics
in python
slow belfry
@strange silo cluster we've built a year ago and upgrading constantly
strange silo
all flash or hdd?
slow belfry
All flash
stoic magnet
@stoic tendon i can help
stoic tendon
i am reading the docs and idk where to start
pretty confuzzled
new to programming
and python
slow belfry
30T nett right now and a 120T hdd backed backup platform
stoic magnet
python docs can be consusing
strange silo
@slow belfry Nice, using OpenStack or just using Ceph as more standard storage backend
slow belfry
Proxmox with ceph
strange silo
Always wondered, how does Proxmox integrate with the Ceph storage?
Or is it just mounting RBDs or something
strange silo
Aww you blurred out the interesting stuff
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:p
slow belfry
@strange silo through the rados gateway, it simply creates a disk image on the rbd.
@rocky badge you run IPv6 only?
warped seal
so guys who has dabled with wireguard?
fresh copper
Wireguard is awesome
wise prism
So guys, I'm having trouble repeating with DD-WRT
Router A is connected to internet
Router B is running DD-WRT
Connecting to Router A normally with smartphones is normal, but poor signal
I've set Router B to connect to Router A wirelessly with DD-WRT. Router B is connected to Router A, but devices connected to Router B doesn't get internet access
wise prism
Bridged
slow belfry
What is the result from a traceroute?
wise prism
Traceroute?
slow belfry
Yes
wise prism
Haven't done that yet, I've just turned everything off because I'm going to sleep lol
will try tomorrow
wise prism
Indonesia, 12AM
fresh copper
If ddwrt is anything like openwrt (which it is) then it will be hard to make a wireless bridge, mostly due to how wifi works. It is possible to get it to partially work but itβs not the best
unreal wedge
I've done it.
little schooner
I would buy unifi and call it a day
subtle depot
Ah yes the ultimate conclusion of any tech support question:
"Lol just get the thing I use it works."
little schooner
Time is valuable
We did just that with our classroom env
We choose synology Nas over free nas
fresh copper
You can almost always get the thing to work and do what you want it to but sometimes it's not worth the time and you should just do something that works. If you want to do it the hard way than you are going to have to do it yourself because very few people would help, especially over the phone or the internet. We will try to help but sometimes it's just not worth it
clear igloo
herp derp, "why is my NTP not working? I've tried everything"
looks in modem firewall rules and nothing comes up
sees the last entry "Deny UDP 123"
Son of a b....
Searching on the page didn't return any results for 123 but yet it was there at the bottom, so fail x.x
fresh copper
NTP is annoying. I host a couple servers in the pool and sometimes I have issues with IPv4 or IPv6 but not the other on the same server. I also think that the NTP states are filling my ERX's state pool and causing it to crash
clear igloo
Well the problem was actually two fold. The first is AT&T blocks packets with src and dst of 123 so I needed to NAT the source to another port but I was still not getting anything, all the servers were .INIT. and on the way home I thought to check one more time and this time when searching in the modem firewall (not my ASA) I saw the very last line was a deny UDP dest 123 which would explain why it kept failing after the NAT rule
Just one of those days π
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@slow belfry no
warped seal
@fresh copper problem im facing if you can help. my wireguard makes my ping high
fresh copper
Any VPN causes traffic to first be redirected though some other server before going out to the internet so it would be expected for your ping to increase. What kind of increase are you seeing and how far away is the server you are connecting to?
warped seal
so my server pings google dns or 1.1.1.1 at .5ms when i connect via wireguard from client to server it goes to 100ms. but i myself ping 1.1.1.1 at 5ms
and ping the server at 22ms
fresh copper
How far away is the server? Would it be possible to see a traceroute from the device experiencing the issues?
crisp shell
Can anyone help me with my steam caching server? I followed every step in Jacks forum post/video, but I can't get it to work. When I download a game form steam, it directly goed to the 1.1.1.1 dns. There is little to none network activity on the ubuntu server. I set my pc's dns server to the server ip, so that's not the problem
pseudo blade
Had a fun one recently where I blocked management except via VPN, but accidentally blocked the VPN port.
unreal wedge
@crisp shell his name is Jake @mystic hull
Also keep in mind you can't download what's not in the cache.
crisp shell
I know, but it should download it before I can download it
unreal wedge
@slow belfry not a bug.
unkempt crest
fresh copper
I finally figured out what was wrong with my ERX
It's because 2.0.0 has issues with hwnat
So I have to disable it for now
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I'm not using the alpha anymore
fresh copper
I'll keep it on my ERX that does not need the speed and downgrade on my one that does
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little schooner
Should I get a NETGEAR 4 port 10g switch or does edgeswitch xg work just as good?
rigid slate
If I wanna setup a dmz which router need more processing power?
Edge router or core router?
unreal wedge
Uh, trick question?
lavish warren
Scarnon
lavish warren
@fresh copper Yo is that your ASN lol?
covert ibex
Been asked to organise an upgrade for the company next to my work.
Quite literally, besides the commander phones, the rest of the network of 90ish computers is run off 4400se switches.
slow belfry
Well @lavish warren if you just execute whois as202313 you'll find out
lavish warren
@slow belfry Already did :p
slow belfry
Hahaha
rough zenith
Under what conditions would getting powerline products be beneficial? right now getting 1 to 2 bars of connection in my room. Ethernet not possible
zenith ridge
I don't think you have any other options left @rough zenith unless you have a spot where wifi is decent enough to repeat the signal / mesh
rough zenith
Im assuming Powerline is just a bad gimmick, then?
clear igloo
Depends, how old is the home?
radiant crane
Powerline's a good option, I've used it in a couple of apartments where I couldn't run Ethernet. Ethernet is the best though, you can't get around that
You could also try to mess with getting a WiFi repeater if all you care about if good WiFi
rough zenith
not sure, but i have another question. if the line to/from the router is on a seperate power line from the one in my room, would it still work? Not direct connection, it goes through the breaker i think @clear igloo
subtle glen
depends
clear igloo
It should be able to jump but not guaranteed
rough zenith
seems very finnicky then
subtle glen
my powerlines do work even tho there are 4 breakers in between
but the speed between them is not even 100 mbps
rough zenith
ill have to ask my parents for how the power lines are run
clear igloo
Are the lines old or recent?
Because if you're in like a home from the early 1900s then you're probably sol
but if we're talking 1980s+ then probably good
clear igloo
Cool, so you'll probably have a good experience
It can usually move between the breakers in a single box with the newer powerline stuff
rough zenith
The main reason why i want them is for a more stable connection for streaming (both watching and me using obs)
i heard repeaters arent that good for that use case
subtle glen
use an ethernet cable if you want something stable
clear igloo
Powerline sounds like it's going to be better than WiFi in your case
rough zenith
1gbps unit, or i can cheap out a little and get one with mas 300mbps?
clear igloo
Go with the 1Gbps+ unit
subtle glen
some powerlines do also use the ground cable to archive faster speeds
but i would be surprised if they reach 1000 mbps
rough zenith
the max download speeds ive ever gotten on wifi was around 25mbps
subtle glen
definitely would be faster with powerlines, but a good old ethernet cable would always be the best
rough zenith
too far from router :(
subtle glen
there is always a way to run the cable
clear igloo
True but not always worth the parents headache π
subtle glen
that is also true xD
rough zenith
exactly
little schooner
I tried to force Comcast's hand with reasons why they should increase upload speeds and complained about why they have a monopoly in the town. The end result is that they straight up don't even care or consider customer loyalty at all.
I need a local ISP to come here for a different service
This can't be what people should be going through. Prices go up up up for outdated equipment. It's so stupid how that works.
That's NOT how depreciation for hardware is for consumers.
unreal wedge
Comcast, Verizon, AT&T, and a few others are utter shit. My local ISP only exists with fibre because the government subsidizes fiber local ISPs.
Also, many ISPs don't offer decent upload at all, perhaps for P2P application gimping...
fresh copper
My upload speed is less than 4% of my download speed. The other ISP in my city offers symmetric though.
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Lol
sturdy mirage
hey guys, let's talk about hardware i'm currently looing for a tower server with 6 cores to prcatice with some conatiners, NODE.js/ web hosting and i got a 200 euros (220$) budget, i'm quite familiar with server grade hardware, however i don't know much about the pricing of this equipement, do you have any recommendation(s) ? π
hallow nimbus
ebay ?
clear igloo
R610 or R620 if you don't mind rackmount style
sturdy mirage
rackmount makes too much noise π
i actually own a 2950r2
i've seen some T320
at a reasonnable price
covert ibex
Are 3com 4400se switches worth hanging on to?..
clear igloo
They're only 10/100 but if you can make use of them somehow they might be worth it
hallow nimbus
EW
covert ibex
Well, think I'll put them in storage atm.
Doing an upgrade for a company and they said "keep them, or throw them out. Not our problem".
hallow nimbus
Lmao
little schooner
Does anyone know what would be causing this problem?
I disabled the firewall on both devices
I think I figured it out. It looks like I did not have my NTP server listening on port 123, so it was returning that message saying it wasn't available
cedar wren
So I have a Ubuntu system with ssh enabled and I use putty and tightvnc on Windows to run tasks on it. Now let's say my Ubuntu system has a virus/malware, will using tightvnc or putty compromise my windows system?
covert ibex
@cedar wren
Typically not.
thick minnow
Come to vent a little about my network setup, Apparently my idle roku tv sent 1.4gbs worth of data out of my network to who knows where in 6 minutes. I think theres proper reason to complain about this cause its not even supposed to be doing anything rn.
Just wondering if anyone else sees this happening with other smart tvs/stuff like that
unreal wedge
If you have a pihole to see where it went, that'd be helpful.
thick minnow
Yeah sadly I don't have one of those setup yet, strangely enough I watched a video on pihole's like 10 minutes ago
I really should get a pi hole setup, but its late tonight as I am just messing around π
unreal wedge
Just watch for the random FTL crashes. Had one last night for no reason in a semi-prod environment.
thick minnow
Also question if you know, is pi hole really well optimized for specifically raspberry pi's or will a random laptop with linux work?
unreal wedge
Works on anything.
thick minnow
Okay
unreal wedge
Keep in mind on a non-pi, there will be perms errors.
thick minnow
most likely
unreal wedge
I can shoot you a command to fix that.
unreal wedge
Really poor on the pihole team to not have fixed a novice issue during install.
Also, they're*
thick minnow
yeah I am terrible at grammar
unreal wedge
Grammarly should sponsor us
thick minnow
lol anyways thanks for the help, I might make a forum post about this later once I find out where all this data really is going
Cause thats a large amount of data for 6 minutes of idle traffic
unreal wedge
I unplugged our Roku months ago. Useless item.
thick minnow
My entire family is glued to them, it wouldn't help to do that
unreal wedge
Did you know it broadcasts an open wireless network that's an eyesore on the wireless list? And if you disable onboard wifi, you can't use the Bluetooth remote that comes with the Roku.
It's got to be datamining. Maybe mapping nearby neighboring network ssids.
thick minnow
Well my wireless list is already trashed
About 6 diffrent netgears
only 3 networks have been properly named
out of about 16-18 depending on where I am standing
Datamining would make sense, I have heard stuff like that with smart tvs
cedar wren
@covert ibex thanks!
lavish warren
@little schooner make sure firewall is not running on 10.0.100.128. Its sending you a Type 3 ICMP saying that it discarded the packet. If 10.0.100.128 is a server make sure local firewall is not blocking UDP 123
thick minnow
y would anyone use UDP. over TCIP.
@unreal wedge where can i get this pihole
what do you use for streaming. if not roku
clear igloo
Because not everything needs reliable delivery?
Voice is the biggest one
thick minnow
Seriously?
clear igloo
Yes, voice is very latency sensitive and if you make it retransmit every time a packet is lost you get some really messed up calls, delay, etc.
Video as well, to a lesser extent
clear igloo
How so? Would you rather a call or video stream stop when a packet is lost, wait for it to retransmit, and then resume every time there is a hiccup? Or just keep moving along and forget about the dropped frame
There are a lot of applications where it definitely makes sense to use TCP but for others, where you don't need to worry about every packet getting there then UDP is wonderful. Much less overhead with UDP as well
little schooner
@lavish warren I checked ufw rules too and it was inactive. Then I disabled edgerouter fw rules. The culprit was ntp on the server was listening on the wrong port. I had to set a config option in a .conf file then restart the service for it to work
I guess it says port unreachable if it tries to make a connection it's not listening too. But I never knew that until yesterday. I thought only TCP connections reply back with stuff like that
thick minnow
Thank you @clear igloo
unreal wedge
@thick minnow smart TVs have all of it built in and Google pihole.
thick minnow
Google pinhole? I could google it. Lol but could you give me your example of it
Is it easy to setup
unreal wedge
Literally Google it. Simple.
thick minnow
Kk
lavish warren
@little schooner Nice find mate.
opal bison
Hey guys, I just got remotedesktop to work on my home network. Would it be possible to access the pc also from another location?
If so how would the be called, I'd love to Google information and read about it
zenith ridge
If you want to work from anywhere on your pc at home:
- RDP from microsoft itself, port forward needed and fixed ip prefered or dyndns
- teamviewer, you can run it without installation, just need to write down ID and set a password on home PC
- or a lot of other programs, google also has an option
RDP isn't on windows home edition
green gazelle
I use Chrome RDP for my remote machines
fresh copper
Chrome Remote Desktop is the easiest to set up. I would not use RDP from Microsoft or VNC because they require port forwarding and explaining port forwarding over the internet is hard because every router is different. TeamViewer is ok but I don't really like it but if you were avoiding Google for some reason then it would be ok.
little schooner
@fresh copper Google is the only free one that businesses can use too royalty free
if you don't want to punch some holes here and there
pine panther
im gonna be getting 300mbit download 100mbit upload fibre in croatia is it worth it 255kn ( 51.67 CA$, 38.91 SAD$ )
pseudo blade
I'd pay that, but I'm an Australian so...
fresh copper
Thatβs even pretty decent in Canada
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lel
fresh copper
Though itβs getting better
zenith ridge
@pine panther thats half of what we pay in Belgium for 200Mbps down, 20Mbps up
I would get it twice at that point
pine panther
oh wow i thought i was getting fucked over by the company lol, thanks guys.
zenith ridge
I guess where you live most things are cheaper and you may earn less aswell, but I doubt you earn half of what we earn in Belgium, so that would make it a good deal
And it's still way faster speeds anyway
pine panther
yeah i converted it to the canadian and US price aswell so everyone can see if its cheap or not
unkempt venture
hey , i would like to use internet connection as the same time , 2 diffrents nic, the idea is that i have both connected and use proxy to force an app to use a certain connection , but i don't know any windows proxy server that can choose with nic it use , do you know some ?
zenith ridge
Anyone who knows if a pfsense router exists with 2.5/5/10Gbit ports?
I need a new router but they also announced that in Belgium Gigabit should be a thing next year, (atm they offer 400Mbps at most) and within a few years 2.5Gbit.
I would like to be ready for those speeds, if they really deliver on that. See what is possible. pfsense isn't a must but I really did like how it can do anything you want and more.
pine panther
we here in this hole of a country we got fibre optics 1gigabit at most.
zenith ridge
We don't have anything faster then 400Mbps right now, so not here yet
but the ISPs are forced to give Gigabit options next year and 2.5Gbit in a few years
right now we only have 0.3% fiber to the home covered
also as option to, not actually connected yet
But I just want to know what the option are for past 1 Gbit speeds before I buy something just to change it in a few years possible
little schooner
I need a way to force Comcast's hand to give everyone faster upload speeds
unreal wedge
Not with an open-ended question like that.
fresh copper
Not that anyone will see this, but as a PSA to anyone asking questions in the future, please just ask the question. Saying βany networking guys aroundβ or βcan anyone help meβ makes it take longer to get your questions answered. There are many people here that can help with networking (itβs a networking channel after all) but we cannot help until you tell us the question. And we definitely wonβt know if we can help until we know what it is. For all we know, you are going to ask us woodworking questions.
fresh copper
Lol, thanks
@zenith ridge you would probably just have to build one with 10G PCI cards. Most of the 10G routers run some other OS like RouterOS, EdgeOS, Vyos, IOS, etc. If you are ok with one of those then I can give you some good recommendations
zenith ridge
I'm fine with building it myself, that's no issue at all! I assume 2x 10G and 4x 1G would be enough ports, 1 for server, 1 for wan when it's faster then 1G and 4x 1G for lan options @fresh copper I'd love to hear some recommendations as i do not know what 10G will need while still being somewhat affordable
Although if it can only handle 5G (using 10G ports) that woulf also be fine
lavish warren
@pine panther We live in Australia, Australia is not a poor country, we have copper to most homes
hollow niche
covert ibex
@lavish warren
Copper to most homes, couldn't afford fiber.
little schooner
Did Intel add a GUI to the networking DCH drivers to manage VLANs from it? Or is Powershell command still the required way to do it?
proper veldt
I have spectrum 350 mbs down, 25mbs up. The connection for our house has to pass through a cable modem before it gets to our router and switch. I have turned off the wifi broadcast for the modem already, buy I was wondering if a better modem would provide better speeds, or if it would work at all.
unreal wedge
DOCSIS 3 standards would allow the speed you're seeing and much higher. 3.1 or Full Duplex would allow symmetrical gig, I think. If that's what they're offering, a better modem won't do anything.
pseudo blade
I'd probably try to fetch CPU usage and sync rate from it, though I know your ISPs don't let you have much control over them.
pine panther
Bro we are a bloody hole of a country man idk how we live average sallary would be like 470β¬
strong escarp
@fresh copper , It was indeed a obvious question, but if i asked the question earlier. The people will just say Its not possible etc etc etc. thats why i asked it, So i can have a convo with somebody at that moment and get some ideas.
Anyways my question was.
I have a 20up and 20down connection
And i have been getting ddosed by free booters.
I have managed to block few of them by sending them a blacklist email. but still there are left. A good firewall could atleast help me against these booters, I only want to accept pakistan ip connections
I have 2 Juniper SSG5 lying around, How about pFsense, it have a pfblocker plugin too. Anyone used pfsense here? how is it?
pseudo blade
The people will just say Its not possible etc etc etc If you think something's impossible and are using that as an excuse to hide the question from us until someone responds... You're wasting our collective time, including your own.
So. You're being DDoSed. First off are you hosting services off that IP? Can they be removed if present, along with any DNS records pointing to it?
Then get your IP changed, likely by disconnecting your gateway for a bit until the DHCP lease expires.
All the network equipment in the world will not help you, as all of it sits on your end of a small pipe.
In future, don't hand out your IP or DNS records that alias to it, leverage CloudFlare and the like for HTTP services and consider hosting other services elsewhere in one of the big public clouds if possible.
@strong escarp
pine panther
^^
craggy zealot
hey guys a new person here, wanted to ask if anyone had any experience with the unify secure gateway
compared to pfsense
strong escarp
xd
@hallow nimbus
well, i'm not wasting anyones time, You still have not understood what i have said. it's a game server,
CSGO. and the ip cannot be hidden
clear igloo
ewwwww
clear igloo
I don't have the before pictures but I'm pretty sure I've shown the during and after for one of the testbeds I use at work
So nice when you get it all organized π
fresh copper
@strong escarp consider this. Lets say that you had a perfect firewall that only allowed exactly what you wanted and blocked everything that you did not want.
You would still have all of the same data coming down your pipe and clogging up your connection. It would not get any farther than the firewall but it would still have to go though the part of your network that is bandwidth limited.
Letβs say that you did want to make a firewall anyway. PFsense is very good at being a firewall. There are better, and more expensive, firewalls but pf is a good start (the pf literally stands for packet filter).
Only accepting Pakistan connections is possible but you would need a list of all the IP blocks noting that some ISPs use blocks in countries that those blocks are not assigned to. The best thing to do it to just block the people dosing you as you at least know their IPs easily.
You have to be really careful hosting public servers on small connections. Iβm not going to say that you canβt or shouldnβt, but this kind of thing will keep happening to you. The best you can hope to do to reduce this is to keep sending abuse emails to the abuse contacts of the netblocks.
pine panther
@ancient vigil sick work man it makes my ocd blush
strong escarp
@fresh copper the best speed in my country is around 50mb which is pretty expensive, And yeah, I have all ranges of pakistan. Also i have heard of PFblocker plugin. atleast it would be better than me tp link router hto XD
fresh copper
Yes, the PFblocker plugin is very useful for what you want to do
strong escarp
I also have Juniper SSG5.
fresh copper
I am personally not especially experienced with Juniper though I suspect similar things can be accomplished
little schooner
@strong escarp PFsense can do it better than the Juniper
pseudo blade
I've said it before and I'll say it again... There is nothing you can do on the home side of that connection to mitigate a DDoS.
strong escarp
It's a only free booter. Just one. @little schooner , Actually, I did install pfsense on my machine to test it out, but my brother got a realtek gigabit nic (balkan) if that is fine?
pseudo blade
If you can't relocate those game servers you will continue to be DDoSed.
PFsense, Ubiquiti, million dollar router from Cisco... Does not matter in the slightest.
Considering that packets will be delivered no matter what you block locally, you are wasting your time.
strong escarp
One of my friend, Had a connection of 20 down 10 up, And he used a firewall, he never mentioned the name, He said, I only have a firewall, I asked him permission to DDos Him with a booter, and yea, He didn't got ddosed tho.
pseudo blade
How many machines did you use to DDoS?
strong escarp
I used 4 booters.
strong escarp
i didn't got your point, I used a paid booter. like i dont wanna share the link here, the speed was around 300mb per second. and another one was 1Gbps or something.
little schooner
if ddos is a problem, you need to step up to the cloud offerings instead
pseudo blade
Because I have a feeling it's one machine on one connection... Which isn't a DDoS.
They need to use a cloud option.
strong escarp
i tried flooding , dns attack, udp, ntp everything he didn't got ddosed on that 20mb connection.
pseudo blade
What if I said that your experimentation doesn't mean anything?
strong escarp
the problem is the connection which is DDOS protected is hard to get.
little schooner
the cloud got $$$, expertise and resources to mitigate ddos attacks
if the cloud provider ever gets taken down, can you imagine the other businesses that would suffer too?
strong escarp
like in what way? i know the diff between DoS and DDoS
little schooner
that why it's your best bet to invest to that
strong escarp
They only provide to banks or other big companies π¦
pseudo blade
Wrong.
strong escarp
and the connection is like 1up and 1 down. and cost around 500$
little schooner
@strong escarp well I'm not sure about the Pakistan area
idk if it's cheap or expensive
strong escarp
Actually, Someone suggested me to try a GRE Tunnel, but i'm not sure that if my server would show up in the Internet list of CSGO or not :x
I actually have managed to ddos protect my TeamSpeak3 server.
by using a proxy
pseudo blade
I'm now certain that you have no idea what you're talking about.
strong escarp
umm wait why is that?
pseudo blade
Ok. So tunnels allow you to connect two machines (usually on two different networks) together via a shared one. So you could make a tunnel between a router on your edge and an instance in AWS EC2 or the like.
strong escarp
yep?
pseudo blade
So what's a GRE tunnel going to do if you have no remote servers?
strong escarp
well, Actually i contacted stormwall.pro for their GRE Tunnel. They said that you have to create a tunnel in your centos server. And i actually do not undestand what do you mean by remote servers?
pseudo blade
Somewhere far away.
strong escarp
I do have remote servers?
I have protected my teamspeak3 server by using a GRE tunnel, main is in DigitalOcean one is buyVM. ? GRE Tunnel does not work Really work in CSGO, but not sure. because CSGO game server coordinator need to see the main ip of the server.
pseudo blade
You'd use masquerading to solve that issue.
Bind the server to the tunnel using the +ip argument, only way in or out is via the tunnel, which needs a router doing NAT.
strong escarp
Does GRE Tunnel add latency?
pseudo blade
Then you can restrict access on that router (hosted offsite in some cloud somewhere).
Yes.
You wouldn't use plain GRE, either.
It just tunnels traffic, and is entirely unencrypted.
strong escarp
I actually just need to protect myself from booters, UDP-LAG Floods and DNS,
covert ibex
@strong escarp
Why do you need a physical firewall server when you can do this on the machine itself? https://blog.cloudflare.com/how-to-drop-10-million-packets/
unreal wedge
Really no need for a physical firewall on a moderate-load machine. Anything home-based, or SOHO-based shouldn't need it, unless there's a ton of incoming traffic that you can't proxy through 
Cloudflare.
covert ibex
Cloadflare. :P
@unreal wedge
unreal wedge
@covert ibex 
covert ibex
Yes, we have no bananas.
sick burrow
I know this is a bit of a dumb question, but what are the cons of using a regular computer for hosting, compared to an actual server, other than reliability?
pseudo blade
None, unless you need more CPU performance, disk or RAM than desktop platforms can offer.
little schooner
For integrity of data, I would certainly choose server over desktop if I wanted to access photos 10 years from now and did not want them to get corrupted during the years
I've lost like 50 core photos due to memory corruption that was silent. never again will I use the system without ecc for backup server
little schooner
Anyone have a favorite local smnp tool that tracks data points overtime and doesn't require a full setup to get working?
hoary scaffold
Does anyone have a good rual inernet other than Satalight?
little schooner
@hoary scaffold Maybe a WISP, but I don't think they are as common as dsl and cable.
ornate jungle
@hoary scaffold I'm pretty sure that these Sata Lights don't provide internet... π
But seriously speaking, I know you meant satellite internet. Depending on where you live, the other 2 options would be a privatized WISP network or checking if a cellular provider offers 4G Home Internet modems.
hoary scaffold
Well I have netbuddy but at&t won't come so I've seen Edi Bockniiki 3 on youtube ranting about Netbuddy Hugesnet sucks.
latent pier
if your phone gets decent internet speeds and its an android you can use pdanet and not rack up your hotspot data
hoary scaffold
Well who needs that when you could have no RGB beacuse you dont have a glass panel
latent pier
just use usb connection
hoary scaffold
Does pdanet need root
latent pier
they really cant
it just shows as regular data
i have been using it with sprint for the past year and it works great
i get down of 10-25 and up of 1-5
thick minnow
Whats a good service to test my servers ping from around the world?
latent pier
hoary scaffold
Nice so USB Debugging on and plug into any laptop = Good internet correct
latent pier
yup
thick minnow
have you tried this one ryder? http://ping.pe/cdn.australian-servers.com
hoary scaffold
That should be easy Thanks!
hoary scaffold
Also I need dev settings too
thick minnow
i like it but it gets limited and you cant use it when there are heaps of people using it
latent pier
oh
latent pier
howwwwwww
hoary scaffold
Dang man how much you pay for that
hoary scaffold
That's cheaper than my inernet that is only like 200 KB
latent pier
lol
thick minnow
Haha
latent pier
im at my vacation home and we get this here
hoary scaffold
Well at least I heavily use my LTE over my Dial up speed Internet with Hugesnet
latent pier
thick minnow
not bad
hoary scaffold
That's better than mine
thick minnow
[root@filebackup ~]# ./speedtest.py --share
Retrieving speedtest.net configuration...
Testing from HostHatch LLC (185.197.30.69)...
Retrieving speedtest.net server list...
Selecting best server based on ping...
Hosted by WebNX (Los Angeles, CA) [0.74 km]: 10.568 ms
Testing download speed.......................................................... ......................
Download: 2684.34 Mbit/s
Testing upload speed................................................................................................
Upload: 1670.53 Mbit/s
Share results: http://www.speedtest.net/result/8048586225.png
[root@filebackup ~]#
hoary scaffold
Like 3 MBPS
hoary scaffold
Well I can play roblox on it but not use Geforce Now
latent pier
so i just basically have my old tablet on 24/7 connected to an old pc so i can get internet foir my whole house
hoary scaffold
Well I see
thick minnow
buy one of them Mobile Wifi Block thingys and slap a cheap high data 4G sim only plan in it
hoary scaffold
Well would your method would work with what??
Well if you see my data usage Dan your route will not cut it
thick minnow
I had a slow connection awhile back ADSL2 i had like 6mbps down and 0.5mbps up. there are Huge mobile data plans here in australia for like 100GB you can pay just $45/Month and get 4gx speeds of 150/150mbps
thick minnow
Noice Dat upload doe
chrome hound
that speed test server only has a 10gb nic so it has a hard time showing 10gb speed tests
hoary scaffold
Well I need Unlimited which is what I have @latent pier I dont want to pay up more money @thick minnow
thick minnow
how much data u use?
latent pier
ya if u have unlimited ur good
i use legit 10 gbs a day
so i NEED unlimited
i download a ton of crap
and whats loads of youtube
thick minnow
my ISP says i have unlimted but once you hit 1TB it slows down to 512KB/s by 512KB/s
thick minnow
yeah its some fair share ball shit
hoary scaffold
What type of app or what is the app name that you use @latent pier
latent pier
pdanet
hoary scaffold
I dont see a App just called Pdanet
thick minnow
hoary scaffold
Oh I dont think it will work with linux
latent pier
if u have windows u can create a wifi network
hoary scaffold
Nice
latent pier
if u want that explained join reg chat 3 cuz i dont wanna type it
hoary scaffold
How thru settings I think I know how
strong escarp
for this, do i have to remove any router
like i have a tp link router, used for pppoe connection and port forwarding
hoary scaffold
@latent pier what do they mean by limit I have got PDA on my phone.
latent pier
It turns off after like an hour or something
You just have to turn it back on or pay like a buck for the paid version
covert ibex
If your phone can use PDA, it can do it without using the app.
It uses "WiFi direct", which is supported on most devices these days. PDA is just a GUI for it.
And most Unix distro's have native support for it, or an install for it.
hoary scaffold
Also how do you use it on Cloudready? It works great on windows
Other than. Wifi share
covert ibex
I'm not 100% on every version of Unix, but Google is your best friend.
hoary scaffold
lol
covert ibex
Iirc, cloudready is chromium based, so probably look into chromium WiFi direct for help.
hoary scaffold
But my carrier won't work with Foxfi
covert ibex
FoxFi is WiFi hotspot, not WiFi direct..
slow belfry
It is very disappointing that they dont have many 10G speedtests in the Netherlands. Only iPerf, but I reach 1000/1000 (tweak.nl)
vivid turret
Thank You Shaw Cable in Canada:
pine panther
my current internet is just big shit https://www.speedtest.net/result/8049355367 lol
im getting fibre optics 300down and 100up in like a month
really cant wait
pine panther
pff wish i had those speeds lol upload takes bloody days those 2.5 would help
a little bit
at least
fresh copper
@vivid turret how did you convince Shaw to give you that much? The most they will give me is 600/20
green gazelle
@naive terrace looks like you computer nic or switch is older.
hoary scaffold
@covert ibex Pdanet works Extremely well and only 39 ping speedtest.net/result/8050198047
naive terrace
@green gazelle it was a problem with my wiring
Rewired it again and again until it worked
Now i have gigabit
hoary scaffold
Now I have 3 mbps at home
hallow nimbus
Lol @naive terrace
clear igloo
@rocky badge lol
rocky badge
π
fresh copper
I'm not sure that that is enough firewalls
clear igloo
You forgot the Palo Alto firewall
clear igloo
and the Fortinet π
rocky badge
watchgaurd
fresh copper
Also, I would remove that dotted arrow. That will eliminate outside attacks so then we just have to worry about internal attacks
rocky badge
π
fresh copper
We should probably just airgap everything inside separate faraday cadges
clear igloo
Pull the power, it's the only way
hallow nimbus
π
covert ibex
@rocky badge
You forgot an analog firewall.
rocky badge
Lol
unreal wedge
@rocky badge bwahahahaa
unreal wedge
The firewall bit.
covert ibex
@rocky badge
Do I ask.. what firewall stops Aussies?
unreal wedge
Their own government. They seem to think encryption is bad.
covert ibex
Naa, they want things encrypted, they just want their own backdoor into it.
pseudo blade
They love encryption... Except for the Confidentiality and Integrity parts. They hate those.
sturdy mirage
what about ubiquiti fW π€
gentle siren
So in planning convention networks...how OP do we want to make what we have?
Because we've been running UniFi and it's awesome (and so far, we haven't seen Dante fall back to the secondary route)
I'm thinking for 10k+ person events, we have 20Gbit aggregate trunks to each floor and make it utterly ridiculous
It would also let us broadcast Main Events programming to every room - either a Dante feed for audio only or set up an RTMP server and stream, turning every breakout room into a possible spillover hall
thick minnow
that sounds legit
rocky badge
@gentle siren now I want an USG ;-;
unreal wedge
I have two Unifi AC-AP Pros. No need for extra garbo if everything in between does the same job.
thick minnow
is a real ap better than using a wifi router in ap mode?
pseudo blade
Depends on what speeds and features you need and how far away from the AP you plan to be while using them.
thick minnow
cover 2 floors of a wood house
pseudo blade
What's the roof made of?
pseudo blade
What's the dimensions of the house?
thick minnow
its 1400sqft total
pseudo blade
That's both floors?
thick minnow
yeah, combined
pseudo blade
Is it somewhat square?
pseudo blade
What kind of speeds?
thick minnow
ac level
pseudo blade
..Numbers, please. mbps from the ISP.
thick minnow
i have a 300mb input
pseudo blade
What speeds do you need to be available via wifi?
thick minnow
the wired network is gigabit, so maxing out the lan would be nice for file transfers, but its mainly used for streaming netflix
pseudo blade
gigabit maxing out the lan This is decidedly nontrivial.
You'd be talking an AP per room at that point.
thick minnow
just streaming netflix at 4k would be sufficient
pseudo blade
What's the ISP router?
thick minnow
my router? pfsense
pseudo blade
What's handling wifi?
pseudo blade
I dislike mesh wifi for performance reasons. If you can cable stuff in, definitely consider it.
thick minnow
id love to have whole house cat6 but.. dreams
pseudo blade
Keep in mind if you connect to a non-root mesh AP it has to do double-time relaying it to the main AP.
100mbps stream? Effectively 200mbps , and include time spent switching back and forth.
pseudo blade
Consumer-grade stuff sucks NGL.
wind umbra
Hello, I might have a little issue and I really need help with it.
So I was setting up the firewall for one of the servers. I've setup all the rules, everything was triple checked, except the chain policies (and I feel pretty dumb for it). So I implemented the new rules, setup the cron jobs, etc, ran the setup script and got locked out of the machine. Reason is that I forgot to change the default policy of INPUT chain back to ALLOW instead of DENY (which has been modified some time ago)
I am able to connect via rescue mode and modify the OS data, but I do not know how to fully disable any package.
So what I am asking for is any sort of advice or help regarding on how I can get rid of iptables.
details:
OS: CentOS 7
Access to rescue mode, able to login and access data (except `/home/` which is on different partition)
Locked out of machine because of iptables
Need a way to disable iptables manually (by modifying files)
Thanks for any advice (except; be more careful, please, no jokes. I have this over my head)
Please tag me if you reply.
glad marsh
more like: It doesnt seem professional if it doesnt cost fucktons of money*
pseudo blade
Remember, children... Open-source software is bad because hackers can see the source code...
sturdy mirage
you can get some fairly good overview of the esxi kernel
pseudo blade
Obvious joke is... Less obvious than expected?
rocky badge
hexed vault
@wind umbra systemctl disable iptables should do the trick
sturdy mirage
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
wind umbra
@hexed vault yeah the problem was that I could not access the machine via SSH. We were locked out. I do not have physical access to the server
(Sorry for the triple mention, the message was sent 3 times because of network issues this bar has..)
I was able to solve the issue using the KVM service the host provides.
little schooner
@pseudo blade My teacher is an auditor and he said that open-source software is usually less secure because the people who maintain it eventually stop maintaining it. In addition, he mentioned that open source software takes a long time to patch up its security problems.
I guess he is right with some of the projects, but others may be well maintained where this exception doesn't apply to
rocky badge
@clear igloo
clear igloo
Nice
pseudo blade
@little schooner Fact is that most proprietary software ends up unmaintained eventually, but in that case can't be fixed by the end user. Additionally, the claims that open-source software takes a long time to patch security problems is nonsense, and more often than not is faster at patching them than closed-source software from companies.
There's a library I use that the open-source developer abandoned for managing network devices from a specific vendor. I maintain it now for my company.
It's easy to make claims like that, but the bigger projects have both in spades.
In fact, many have large companies backing them that offer support like for any other software.
(Have in spades = have a lot of)
Take Canonical(Ubuntu), Red Hat, NGINX, Apache, NetGate(PFsense)
There's nothing wrong with closed source I just provided a reason it's a problem, and an example.
Trust me, Cisco has plenty of options for breaking configs too.
That's not a problem inherently bound to it being open-source.
Sounds like you didn't pay NetGate for support.
paying is not going to help
Ok, so you're clueless and I have no more patience for people who blame entire software development and licensing models for individual problems in individual pieces of software.
Off to work now.
little schooner
I mean I'm only going by what my teacher said. I see the value in both closed and open source
but there is a reason companies buy red hat vs installing Ubuntu on production systems
fresh copper
Hmm
Need to get 264 MB/265 MB of archives.
After this operation, 1056 MB of additional disk space will be used.```with that much being changed, that would surely break my librenms instance
fresh copper
I'm doing bad things
hoary scaffold
Can someone tell me how to set up Pdanet with Linux?
pseudo blade
@little schooner Red Hat Enterprise Linux is Open Source, and Ubuntu actually offers enterprise support options.
Open-source != "I can download binaries for free".
Also on an unrelated but somewhat amusing tangent (EX7500 range extended asked about above)...
Seeing as effectively all of them use OpenWRT/other Linux, this basically means all of them, give or take the odd VxWorks box.
latent tinsel
Anyone using proxmox ? I need some help with IP addressing if someone would lend a hand?
exotic solstice
ik this sounds a bit newbie but does anyone know how to setup a drive on a to broadcast to every device on the network so if i said had a game on that pc i could transfer it over the network instead of a drive
fresh copper
Sorry if I am not entirely sure what you want, are you looking for some form of network storage solution?
white coral
still need to know if this is a good inexpensiive way to expland my network, is this good? https://www.ebay.com/itm/NETGEAR-Nighthawk-AC2200-Mesh-X4S-Wall-Plug-Tri-Band-WiFi-Mesh-Extender-EX7500/153387953020?epid=5026512640&hash=item23b6a26b7c:g:ypkAAOSwcGtcbbXb:rk:49:pf:0&LH_BIN=1
silver heath
anyone here by chance have experience with d link layer 2 switches?
hybrid flume
Hey guys, I have a single cat5e cable running to a room I need to hook up a couple devices to. Running an additional cable is going to be difficult, would just plugging it into a switch and running a couple cables from that work well?
fresh copper
Yes
hybrid flume
Cheers!
hexed vault
The free version of RHEL is called Centos xD
little schooner
@ancient vigil so in your case Google dns is faster
fresh copper
PING one.one.one.one(one.one.one.one (2606:4700:4700::1001)) 56 data bytes 64 bytes from one.one.one.one (2606:4700:4700::1001): icmp_seq=1 ttl=61 time=1.41 ms 64 bytes from one.one.one.one (2606:4700:4700::1001): icmp_seq=2 ttl=61 time=0.681 ms64 bytes from one.one.one.one (2606:4700:4700::1001): icmp_seq=3 ttl=61 time=0.824 ms64 bytes from one.one.one.one (2606:4700:4700::1001): icmp_seq=4 ttl=61 time=1.00 ms 64 bytes from one.one.one.one (2606:4700:4700::1001): icmp_seq=5 ttl=61 time=0.676 ms64 bytes from one.one.one.one (2606:4700:4700::1001): icmp_seq=6 ttl=61 time=0.788 ms64 bytes from one.one.one.one (2606:4700:4700::1001): icmp_seq=7 ttl=61 time=0.699 ms64 bytes from one.one.one.one (2606:4700:4700::1001): icmp_seq=8 ttl=61 time=0.752 ms64 bytes from one.one.one.one (2606:4700:4700::1001): icmp_seq=9 ttl=61 time=0.742 ms64 bytes from one.one.one.one (2606:4700:4700::1001): icmp_seq=10 ttl=61 time=0.601 ms ^C --- one.one.one.one ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 165ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.601/0.817/1.410/0.223 ms```bryce@bgp-router00-ams:~$ sudo ping google-public-dns-a.google.com PING google-public-dns-a.google.com(google-public-dns-a.google.com (2001:4860:4860::8888)) 56 data bytes 64 bytes from google-public-dns-a.google.com (2001:4860:4860::8888): icmp_seq=1 ttl=62 time=1.03 ms 64 bytes from google-public-dns-a.google.com (2001:4860:4860::8888): icmp_seq=2 ttl=62 time=1.20 ms 64 bytes from google-public-dns-a.google.com (2001:4860:4860::8888): icmp_seq=3 ttl=62 time=1.08 ms 64 bytes from google-public-dns-a.google.com (2001:4860:4860::8888): icmp_seq=4 ttl=62 time=1.18 ms 64 bytes from google-public-dns-a.google.com (2001:4860:4860::8888): icmp_seq=5 ttl=62 time=1.11 ms 64 bytes from google-public-dns-a.google.com (2001:4860:4860::8888): icmp_seq=6 ttl=62 time=1.17 ms 64 bytes from google-public-dns-a.google.com (2001:4860:4860::8888): icmp_seq=7 ttl=62 time=1.07 ms 64 bytes from google-public-dns-a.google.com (2001:4860:4860::8888): icmp_seq=8 ttl=62 time=1.08 ms --- google-public-dns-a.google.com ping statistics --- 8 packets transmitted, 8 received, 0% packet loss, time 17ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.029/1.112/1.196/0.069 ms ```Itβs usually better but I broke things so it takes an extra hop
lilac flower
I have a question that may or may not belong here. I use Vudu to go. to download all my digital movies to my computer. however do to storage issues on my M.2 I had to create a sympathetic link to my 2T mechanical drive. my question is, is it possible to set my 2T mechanical drive in my machine to be seen on a network and then to set a sympathetic link to it from another machine? This would allow me to only have to download the movies once and then be able to share them on all my computers in house.
fresh copper
You just need some form of file sharing on the machine with the hdd that you can connect to from the other computers
lilac flower
so you can make sympathetic links over a network then?
fresh copper
What you will do is mount the network drive on the other computers and link to that
lilac flower
windows sorry
fresh copper
Once you mount the network drive on the other machines, you can make links the same way as if the drive was directly connected
lilac flower
thank you for the information
jagged grove
I think you could be connected to two networks, like a fall-back network. One being to one house, the other to your neighbours network. NEVER GO OFFLINE!
also, if you were to create your own router on the computer using windows server. one network in, the other one out to a switch
little schooner
If a switch is currently operating on the floor and there is no visible place to hide the wires from the computers that connect to it, would it make sense to:
A) Cut the carpet for floor insert compartments with 6 Ethernet keystone jacks that link to a patch panel inside a rack
B) Run all wires up through the ceiling (from the computer > floor > into a pipe conduit) and back to a switch sitting in the ceiling
C) Or something else?
Basically, the switch is on the floor and is accessible by anyone who walks in and has several cables randomly going up to the ceiling for internet access
The switch sits in a corner next to one of the computers. It is within user kicking range.
any ideas?
sturdy chasm
Ethernet cables!
Orange/white
Orange
Green/white
Blue
Blue/white
Green
Brown/White
Brown
Yes?
clear igloo
Yup
sturdy chasm
Why the fuck isnβt this dumb shot working then
Finally went ahead and built a rig
But my spool of cat6 was close to depleted
,<
Figured Iβd just run to Home Depot and grab some more
Iβve terminated these bloody ends close to 8-10 times on each end
No result >.<
clear igloo
Did you install the drivers?
sturdy chasm
Yep
Placing it in the living room and connecting it there allows it to be on the internet
Itβs the cable or something along those lines, because connecting it to other devices yields no results either
Not sure if the connectors are bad or what, because the cable I terminated for my fiancΓ©e last week is now down to just 10mbps on the port
Whenever itβs connected
Instead of the 100mbps her computer supports
clear igloo
What kind of connectors are you using? Are they Cat6 for the Cat6 cable?
Is the copper flush with the connector across all 8 cables?
@sturdy chasm
sturdy chasm
Itβs 1 cable
clear igloo
8 wires* whoops
sturdy chasm
Iβve just tried to redo it 8 times
Ah
Yes, all 8 wires are flush against the connector
Itβs a standard RJ45 connector
And a non shielded cat6
clear igloo
Were the connectors rated for Cat6 when you bought them? There is technically a difference between Cat5e and Cat6 connectors with regards to the teeth if I remember correctly
The only thing I can think of is the teeth aren't punched down far enough or something along those lines
sturdy chasm
I honestly donβt remember, I bought them off amazon ages ago
And the package just says RJ45 so not helpful
The teeth are definitely punched down enough
clear igloo
Hmmm
sturdy chasm
Like, it makes no sense to me why it doesnβt work
clear igloo
Yah, I mean it doesn't even really matter what the wire order is, so long as they are the same on both ends nor if they are different on other cables connected. Just so long as you aren't doing A on one side and B on the other side within the same cable
little schooner
If you had 20 1gbps connected computers, would you require a 20gbps uplink in order to serve them all at full speed?
is there such thing as a 20gbps port? or does it make more sense to buy a switch with 4 10gbps ports for uplink?
clear igloo
There is 25Gbps ports but no 20Gbps port. You could bundle 2x10Gbps ports though
little schooner
@clear igloo hmm. I'm trying to think whether it makes sense to use a switch with 4 10gbps or 2 25gbps
the latter would be extremely more. money?
clear igloo
To an extent, it can be, yes
pseudo blade
10gbps is likely much cheaper, but I don't get to play with stuff that's faster at this time.
little schooner
This room will eventually have 40 computers
pseudo blade
What will they be doing?
little schooner
virtual machines and download large 5GB files
on a daily basis
or every other 3 days
something like thay
pseudo blade
VMs have local storage?
little schooner
we wanted to move everything to remote connection
esxi server with workstations connecting to it
pseudo blade
Well if that happened the workstations need only have enough bandwidth for VNC/whatever, right?
little schooner
well there are also workshops where everyone needs to download from a file server too. big ISO files
and when they all download everything halts
currently
hallow nimbus
Just 100gbit it all
pseudo blade
What kind of disks does your server have?
pseudo blade
I'd doubt that array would have even close to that much throughput (gigabit per machine).
little schooner
Not sure, it is something new that was never an issue before
before, we were using a 48 10/100 switch for all the computers
pseudo blade
Like... a gigabit per striped drive is probably overly optimistic in such a scenario due to concurrency.
little schooner
I see, so it would be too slow for all PCs to get the full gigabit
pseudo blade
Way too slow.
pseudo blade
A single 10gbps port would move the problem to the server.
hallow nimbus
π
little schooner
But we are still using a gigabit switch for it because department doesn't want to give $
pseudo blade
I'd be wanting an SSD cache for the server in your budget.
little schooner
A proposal is being written now
yeah I was asked to find the hardware needed to improve
like it can be new everything
The network badly needs attention first
it's 20 computers now and 40 down the line maybe in 2 years
So a 48 port 4 sfp+ would fit the bill I assume?
not counting the server hardware yet
pseudo blade
Yes.
But it's not going to be as fast as you want it to be unless you deal with that server.
little schooner
right
As for brands to go for, HP, NETGEAR and Dlink sound good for business switch?
I don't know if we can afford cisco
pseudo blade
I mainly deal with Mikrotik and Cisco. You'd want a second opinion for this one.
clear igloo
If you don't need or care about software support then you could go used if you wanted as well
pseudo blade
used that I do not recommend.
clear igloo
Yah, if this is business critical stuff then definitely not
pseudo blade
Support is useful here.
little schooner
For some reason, all the equipment in there is used, donated Cisco switches
for the network
They were hand me downs from IT department
Basically the junk stuff
pseudo blade
MT do have a switch that meets your listed requirements for a fairly low cost, but in the end you'll want something easy for you to support.
little schooner
Yes easy to support
clear igloo
easy for you and others to support is key
If only you can do it then that might be a bad fit, or perfect, if you want to cement your role π
little schooner
I wasn't sure which business switch would do, I was only looking if it would meet the required port specs
but I should look at the feature set and whether it supports cli etc
pseudo blade
Managed, link aggregation, good security features.
little schooner
yeah, like aggregation is definitely one we need
two 10 gbps
managed would be nice if that meant managed cli
some switches have a GUI managed but not necessarily cli managed
choices, choices.
pseudo blade
If it were my setup I'd probably toss two of these in, or if I had real money to spend I'd get Cisco stuff. https://mikrotik.com/product/CRS326-24G-2SplusRM
The Mikrotiks can be a bit involved, whereas finding people with Cisco knowledge is easy.
pseudo blade
I dislike Cisco routers for the most part, but can't really fault the switches bar the price and stupid paywall for firmware upgrades.
pseudo blade
I'd avoid routing this setup if possible.
little schooner
Oh, the router would be just for internet connections to websites
no file servers over there
little schooner
yeah that's when you really need to bring out the deep pockets
clear igloo
Do you see this expanding to need more switches down the line?
pseudo blade
The server would give long before that.
little schooner
well, when we have the room expansion yes
but at most it would be 40 computers
maybe not with 48 port switch
clear igloo
Ah, gotcha, so multiple switches probably wouldn't be needed for port density then
little schooner
yeah
The single 48 port should hold it
We are budgeting for a new rack too, so the stuff will be centralized further
right now, the switch is on the floor
clear igloo
Budget for all the things π
hallow nimbus
Dis
little schooner
What would the naming convention be for a 10G port in cli? Like, how gigabit ethernet is written as G0/0 or how Fast Ethernet is written as F0/0
little schooner
From the president. He tweeted about it
light radish
ya nice try trolling me
light radish
how can i upgrade me phone to 10g
little schooner
in the year 2400
light radish
your being helpful
little schooner
There isn't 10G and wont be for the next 5 decades maybe
clear igloo
Te is usually the convetion
little schooner
Te in cli?
severe wigeon
Not to knowledgeable on how to set up, but im tryna figure out how to add my authentication for openvpn on openwrt and ant seem to get it
anybody got an idea?
fresh copper
@severe wigeon is the server on OpenWRT or the client? What type of auth is it, password or key?
fresh copper
I believe I used something like this when I did it a while back: https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/services/vpn/openvpn/client
If I recall, you can export an OpenVPN profile from PfSense
severe wigeon
I did export them, whenever I start it, it does nothing
fresh copper
Have you checked logs? Does the interface show up at all?
severe wigeon
let me look
thick minnow
Cisco vs ubiquity vs others. Whatβs your favorite?
little schooner
Well ubiquity since I can afford it and doesn't have software update paywall
I was able to spec out 20x intel 8700 workstations for a classroom lab
fresh copper
Ubiquiti is less expensive. A lot of Cisco stuff have license fees. There are some good third party stuff but itβs hit or miss
sturdy mirage
hey dudes, do you know how much is worth a DELL T620 with 2x e5 2643 and 16gb ECC DDR3?
these are very expensive on ebay π€
tawny hedge
what linux distro should i use for some game server stuff?
sturdy mirage
gaming on Linux π€ with proton you can get some fairly good performance with archlinux....
tawny hedge
wasnt looking to game on linux, wanted to run some game servers on one haha
sturdy mirage
woops π
tawny hedge
sorry if i confused you haha
like i had a linux mint distro running but that install broke for some reason
sturdy mirage
guess that my answer is still correct π€
tawny hedge
so instead of stickign with it, i thought i'd look if there was a better one
sturdy mirage
Debian is appreciated but the modularity of arch is just so good
tawny hedge
is there good online support to find for it?
sturdy mirage
yes
tawny hedge
like forums or something with help if i would need it
since im kind of a novice when it comes to linux
sturdy mirage
but installing arch is really looong
oh OK then go with something easy
don't use arch you'll get lost
sturdy mirage
y
tawny hedge
almost thought i was downloading another download tool or somthing
it was done in 5 sec
lmao
pseudo blade
@tawny hedge I prefer Ubuntu, which is basically an extension of Debian supported by Canonical. I generally have less issues with it than plain Debian.
Debian will generally work, though.
tawny hedge
fair, does it maybe have better support for network stuff?
or does that not really matter?
pseudo blade
Both should be near identical, that's offered by the kernel.
Unless one or the other adds in more modules.
In general I find it doesn't matter.
tawny hedge
oke, and in terms of user friendliness?
pseudo blade
Ubuntu has more sensible defaults (i.e sudo), and both share a package manager.
CentOS would work, but frankly worrying about which one you pick from all possible options will take more time than installing one, and Ubuntu is significantly more popular in this space.
You already have Debian installed?
Try that first, then.