shudders
#networking
thick minnow
the one fun thing about being my parents "network admin" (they don't know what a network admin is, they just call me when shit goes bad)
is that that domain controller in the atic isn't a real domain controller
fierce locust
Yeah i have done really bad things
thick minnow
that DC is Vm & there's 2 VMS running
I have autmatic "offshore" snapshots data redundancy every 48 hours of my server on a vm there
fierce locust
Yeah I need to eventually learn the word proactive
fierce locust
Some of the servers and stuff over here or not backed up.
Are...
I am mobile at the moment
We have a business grade fiber here and 5 static IPS to deal with as well..
Currently our router is an i7 6700k with 32 gigs of RAM and intel 5 port nic cards with ssds
Running pf sense
What type of virtualization software are you using
Personally I used proxmox for awhile.
I am off to bed just tag me in the reply if you do reply I'll try to look it up later night everybody.
thick minnow
We had an entire municipality network go down last Friday because 1 ups failed during a power cut
hallow nimbus
Yikes
glacial glacier
So I have recently upgraded my network plan to 750/750, which I am getting on LAN, but not on WIFi, the AP, a Ubiquiti UniFi UAP AC PRO, is rated for 1350mbit on the 5Ghz band, but I am "only" getting 400/400, how could I improve this?
pseudo blade
@glacial glacier What's the wireless card in your test device?
hollow helm
@glacial glacier That 1350 mbit figure is a theoretical figure. And you would only get close to that in an absolute "Best" case scenario with 0 interference, direct line of sight, close proximity etc.
also remember, that is also assuming that you are ONLY using the one device.
Things like airtime fairness, channel interference etc will all come into play too
but in reality, getting close to gigabit speeds over wireless is very difficult
fresh copper
Reminds me of my dad who decided to upgrade his internet to 800/800mbps and complained he could not get that speed over wifi
fierce locust
What's a site survey like? @glacial glacier Sounds like it could be an interference issue of some sort combined with some other factors..
fresh copper
On my own network, 400/400 is about the fastest I can get. That being said, I have a ton of interference and some other assorted issues that make my system not optimal. I could probably get 7, 8, or even 9 ⋅10²mbps if I actually did things correctly and could get rid of the interference (like an off-channel [non 1,6,11] 802.11b wifi network!)
alpine ridge
I have a Linksys E1200 and I am having to do a cold boot (unplug it and replug it in the reset button does not work) to it about every week. I will have internet(wireless) on my device and then one of them will claim that it is not getting signal (connecting, saved, secerd over and over again) I will have signal on the other device (never the same device each time). I cannot look at the settings for the router even when though I still have internet when connected though I can still search the web. I have already updated the firmware. I was wondering what I could do to fix this issue.
ornate jungle
Factory reset it to defaults, then test adding one device at a time, each time putting the router under load. If it starts to fail to provide a connection once you connect say the 3rd device, or if it drops even with one device after it's been on for say 12-24 hours, chances are it's overheating, so your last resort would be taking apart the router and putting some of those tiny metal heatsinks on the chips inside @alpine ridge .
I realize you said "replacing it is not an option" previously, but that may end up being your option here. Technology, just like anything else, wears out eventually, especially if it's an entry level product, which the E1200 is. Don't get me wrong - the E1200 and similar inexpensive DLink routers I used to sell work fine for those with maybe 2 devices in an apartment who just check their email, but they are not meant to handle any kind of load, and will only wear out faster due to the heat they generate.
glacial glacier
The issue seems to be the limit of 802.11ac on VHT80
shut halo
my ISP recently changed over to CG-NAT i gave them a call and fixed it up real fast xD
alpine ridge
I have a Linksys E1200 and I am having to do a cold boot (unplug it and replug it in the reset button does not work) to it about every week. I will have internet(wireless) on my device and then one of them will claim that it is not getting signal (connecting, saved, secerd over and over again) I will have signal on the other device (never the same device each time). I cannot look at the settings for the router even when though I still have internet when connected though I can still search the web. I have already updated the firmware. I was wondering what I could do to fix this issue.
fresh copper
@alpine ridge you’ve asked the same thing multiple times and basically got the same answer. There really is nothing more you can do than what people have already said
fierce locust
Lol
little schooner
@alpine ridge it's easier just to buy new equipment with a different brand. Spend money and get a quality piece of equipment
rocky badge
@shut halo oof CGNAT
alpine ridge
@Xeon some people cannot just go out and buy new items
narrow parcel
@alpine ridge While that is true, we also cannot turn a budget unreliable piece of equipment into a higher quality one. People already gave you several things to try, and asking again is not going to change those options. Short of making sure you have the latest firmware, or even flashing it with custom firmware, there is not much you can do other than get a better device. The E1200s are notoriously bad in my experience, and I replace them for many customers. You do not have to break your bank getting something and several websites will even offer financing if needed. While I personally run a Fortigate 60E Firewall and a couple enterprise wave 2 ac access points at my house, we normally recommend something in the ASUS product line for consumer wireless routers. Our customers have had great experiences with the RT-68U on the low end for smaller homes, the RT-86U for middle of the road coverage, and the RT-AC88U has always done a great job. The only one in the lineup that hasn't worked well in the field for us is the AC3200 unit.
RT-AC68U - https://www.amazon.com/Dual-Band-AiMesh-Router-AC1900-System/dp/B00FB45SI4
RT-AC86U - https://www.amazon.com/Dual-band-Dual-core-AiProtection-Compatible-RT-AC86U/dp/B0752FD3XJ
RT-AC3100 - https://www.amazon.com/Dual-Band-supporting-AiProtection-Accelerator-RT-AC88U/dp/B016EWKQAQ
subtle glen
If someone has a natted pubblic ip, and so you cannot connect to your home server etc, can you bypass this problem with a ddns?
narrow parcel
@subtle glen DDNS will help you assign a name to your IP address. You will still need to forward your port for them to actually connect.
subtle glen
Yeah but since the ip is shared between houses I was not sure if even after associating a name to the ip, you would still be able to connect to a game server for example
narrow parcel
@subtle glen ddns would allow you to give them a domain name instead of an IP address. The port forwarding is the part that actually allows the connection.
subtle glen
what If someone under that nat has the same port open. My friend has the ddns utility on his pc that updates the ip every 5 minutes. Don't know if that's enough to make it work
narrow parcel
you would have to use another port
subtle glen
Ok, thanks
chrome hound
@subtle glen your screwed with a Natted single Public IP being shared, unless you can control the Nat table and reserve ports for said use.
ashen kernel
@fresh copper yer but I don't have a modem btw sorry for the long delay I don't have internet
fresh copper
I forget what you are even referring too
thick minnow
What are you trying to do?
ashen kernel
run steam game streaming over crossover cable
fresh copper
Whit, I didn't mention a modem though?
thick minnow
if you want to network 2 PCs, just connect them both with a single Ethernet cable
set static IPs on both, with a subnet containing at least 2 addresses
leave DNS and default gateway empty
ashen kernel
k cool
narrow parcel
Chances are you won't even need a crossover cable. Most modern NICs will auto negotiate it
fresh copper
Like I mentioned when I first commented
lapis veldt
Haaaa i love Belgium with all the non-fiber
frail rover
is it possible to portforward with ipv6?
fresh copper
Yes but you don’t have to and probably should not. With IPv6, there is enough IP space that every device can have a public IP. All you have to do is change your firewall rules
carmine moss
@lapis veldt you know telenet is uses fiber in belgium to your house?
lapis veldt
i'm in brussels
carmine moss
the only thing is it's a scam price but it's fiber non the less
lapis veldt
yes
carmine moss
200mbps down 20mbps up
carmine moss
they are bad
they are for tv an phone line everywere their internet is bad
i know people who went from telenet to proximus and back to telenet
lapis veldt
yes
subtle glen
@chrome hound you can ask the isp for a normal IP for free. I guess we will do that then
vestal summit
Anyone have any experience with Spectrum Gig, debating upgrading from the Ultra package for the additional upload speed.
thick minnow
Wow their upload speed is really low
940mbps/35mbps is dumb
that said if you need the upload go for it
vestal summit
In my market its 40Mbps, so its a bit better. A local fiber company has promised to come to my town in Q1 or 2 of 2019, but they only offer 1,000 by 100. I'm interested to see how spectrum is leveraging DOCSIS 3.1.
vestal summit
For the gig service they are. They also need to come out and do a signal reading to make sure things look good at our drop.
narrow parcel
re: IPv6
As stated above, when using ipv6 each device on your network will have its own publicly routable IP address. This is great and easy as you don't need to port forward anymore. Be cautioned however, as this is also a HUGE security hole when it comes to most consumer routers. Most routers have either very basic firewalls or even more have no firewall at all. So PLEASE, if you are using ipv6, setup proper firewall rules on your router and/or pcs.
frozen badger
@pseudo blade @MRACHINI So you're running a CHR in Vultr, what's going on locally?
i split and join locally, split and joun remotely
fresh copper
@frail rover you will need to set the firewall so that it does not block the traffic
autumn flame
So apparently I came across Craigslist for sale of Powerline adapters all for USD15
No house needs 113 ethernet plugs
carmine moss
and not via powerline at all all those plugs
autumn flame
Well I’ll keep like 5 pairs
carmine moss
and sell the rest i hope
carmine moss
maybe keep a few more pairs if they break
autumn flame
True
carmine moss
if they don't get made anymore and they break you have a problem
carmine moss
it's just that you can mix and match different brand powerline adapters and different moddels
so if stores don't sell them and a few break you have a problem
carmine moss
it's normal if you bought them from the same place no one mixes moddels
autumn flame
Yup
Ild be surprised if 95% of it works
There’s one labeled faulty at the bottom last one
carmine moss
powerline has problems but the are better then wifi in most cases
probably they updated their internet to real ethernet cables
and got rid of powerline for stability
carmine moss
every server room has a cable mess
fresh copper
That is too many power lines adapters. What’s the chance you could get more than 100M if you plug them all in
autumn flame
Ps they’re all 500MB/s
carmine moss
that makes it even better most are slower
carmine moss
but will you use it for your main computers i think not more for laptops
autumn flame
Would most likely help with my upcoming desktop
carmine moss
don't you have internet cables in the walls?
autumn flame
Ehh in my house, nope
Asia
Was the original plan when we bought this place
But it costed like $60+ to install a jack and having a Long trunk covering all the way to the living room
carmine moss
you should install one cable to the room you are making your pc room
and use the powerline for the other rooms that need internet cabled
and just put a switch on that one cable so you have more computers in that room
autumn flame
Yea, but like parents would be kinda unhappy with the sight of a cable trunk
even with it painted :/
I’ll probably take a test and see if all of the plugs are working tmr
carmine moss
it's a good idea but they can be unstable powerline just so you know
autumn flame
And it’s kinda a nitpick but I’m a little concerned about the little buzz when I switched the powerline on
Probably the AC-DC converter
carmine moss
that is interference probably
if you have dirty power in your home it's not good at all
autumn flame
Well I’ll wait and see if I ever moved into a house with the switching power supply
Cuz the building I live in now is like opened in 1987
carmine moss
just use the best thing you can i guess it's iritating tho
autumn flame
Yea
ISP gear is sorta functional
5GHz doesn’t even cut it for my room
Cuz around me there’s a lot of 5GHz
carmine moss
if your phone can use 5ghz just install an analyzer app and find the channel that has the least amount off interferance
i have an app that is just wifi analyzer
and it says what channels are the best where you are
carmine moss
then you can put it on not automatic
tawny seal
Anyone here have CCENT certificate?
inner hound
48 gb ports
i think the sfp ports are gb as well
i havent seen a lot of cisco hardware for under $100 so i grabbed it up
carmine moss
i think it has 2 10gb ports
i would still buy it for 80 usd tho if i need a gaint switch
if 1gb is enough
inner hound
yeah its 1G
clear igloo
SFP-DD=100G 😛
narrow parcel
All those powerline adapters are making me look at my stack of 13 Dell Force10 48 port gigabit, 4 xfp module 10Gig switches and know your feels
fresh copper
How about 800G? 1TB (real things)
narrow parcel
Just FYI, that has about a 400W power draw... And also is configured by a cisco nexus 5000 series switch (Separate device)
clear igloo
Yah, it's got no brains
clear igloo
@ancient vigil Yah, QSFP-DD is 400G using the QSFP28 form factor but there is a new spec for SFP-DD for 100G that's in the works to use SFP+ form-factor ports for 100G
narrow parcel
its not really anything to do with it being fibe @inner hound
Its older equipment generally uses more power. We had 10Gig switches years ago. But ones engineered today are far more efficient and use less power. we have both a modern switch and one of the old dell force 10s i mentioned earlier. Same ports, same capabilities, the newer switch uses 17W and the dell force 10 uses 90
cinder creek
and i still can't get wifi from accross the road...
thick minnow
ladbible as a news source
fresh copper
You can get wifi from across the road
Even kilometers
Just need a very good directional antenna
If you had that dish and aimed it properly then you could get wifi from anywhere within the horizon
thick minnow
and i cant download a game in a single day... unless it's under 1 or 2gb
winged barn
I do have bad connexion with the isp some time http://www.speedtest.net/result/7707863747.png
thick minnow
._. almost everyone... has faster internet than me
thick minnow
hallow nimbus
hallow nimbus
You mean a camp with that wall around it
winged barn
the only picture wiki of my town lol
hallow nimbus
😂
winged barn
your google Cabano QC in google map with the sat view you should have a better idea lol
fresh copper
I’ll have 10G IPv6 transit on my server soon. No v4 so I won’t have speedtest.net
winged barn
Hosted by Bell Canada (Laval, QC) [4.02 km]: 1.832 ms
Testing download speed................................................................................
Download: 483.14 Mbit/s
Testing upload speed................................................................................................
Upload: 812.33 Mbit/s
I cheated this time
inner hound
no i want ssd storage
inner hound
2tb for pure ssd storage and 512gb for a cache for my spinning storage on my NAS
fresh copper
The only SSD I own is the 1tb in my laptop
I should get one for my server
It would speed up my big data calculations
plucky marlin
I've just posted in #tech-support about OpenVPN and a bridged LAN with DHCP not working. Should I elaborate in here or leave it over there?
subtle glen
does this mean that port 20 is in both vlans?
subtle glen
honestly i didn't understand any of that
winged barn
20 should be close
ssh/sft 22 open ftp 21 monitored (only if needed) 80 open 443 open
if we are talking about a web server
subtle glen
that's a network switch
winged barn
then this will depend on how did you build your park
clear igloo
Switches don't have ports that are open like a firewall (aside some access stuff in most cases). Port is a physical plug on the switch itself.
@subtle glen It's showing Vlan 1 & 2 is present on ports 20 and 21 so they are probably in trunk mode. What command is it exactly that you entered?
subtle glen
conf t
vlan 2
tag 20-21
wr m
clear igloo
what show command?
subtle glen
it's not the cisco switch, i don't know if the commands are the same
command to see the vlan?
clear igloo
In the picture, yah
clear igloo
Ah, I see. It's tagging any traffic that comes into the port without a VLAN ID with VLAN 2 in that case. At least I think based on the command syntax
subtle glen
also port 21 is not shown in VLAN 1 so i guess that is fine
i tried to untag the 20 from the VLAN1 but that didnt change anything
clear igloo
If Port 20 is in trunk mode and 21 in access mode that might explain it
subtle glen
i mean, i reset it when i got it and never touch anything, just tried in these days to make the vlan
clear igloo
Ah, hard to say since I'm not completely familiar with that syntax so I'm not sure of its purpose. I would think you're setting the native VLAN ID or something with the tag command
unborn gulch
Can anyone recommend a cheap gigabyte switch?
chrome hound
tag is the same thing as setting the vlan
subtle glen
@unborn gulch number of ports?
chrome hound
untagged is going to route any vlan 1 traffic into that port
subtle glen
so is it good as it is? i am concerned about that port nr 20 that is showing in both of them
chrome hound
so based on the screen show port 20 will get both vlan 1 untagged and tagged vlan 2 traffic
fresh copper
@ancient vigil theoretically the minimum it will take it 168TB but it will probably be more
@chrome hound I believe that is correct
chrome hound
vlan tagging is just number added to the ethernet packet if the network card receiving that packet is configured to accept that vlan it will
fresh copper
Oh whoops it’s wasn’t you asking
subtle glen
one port of the vlan would be for the ISP fiber and the other one for the "WAN" port of the edgerouter
chrome hound
rule of thumb both sides have to match the vlan settings for the traffic to pass
chrome hound
are you sure you need to have it tagged then?
subtle glen
i dont know, i was searching about how to add ports to vlans..
unborn gulch
noob question, what's the difference between managed vs unmanaged
subtle glen
managed is where you can set vlans, and others settings. unmanaged is just plug and play
fresh copper
Managed does vlans as main feature
chrome hound
vlans are just a virtual separation on a switch
subtle glen
well, i want to have 2 ports separated from the others
chrome hound
so if your working with devices that don't have the ability to read the vlan tag, you probably want untagged
so vlan should probably be untagged ports
*vlan 2
fresh copper
But can also sometimes do simple routing, snmp, igmp snooping, LACP, dhcp protection, rate limiting, client isolation, and a huge number of other things
chrome hound
yep
subtle glen
is it fine now xD ?
chrome hound
and yes
that should give you 2 virtual switches
you can test it by moving a device to one of those ports and trying to ping it, making sure its a static IP of course
subtle glen
also port 20 disappeared from the main VLAN
subtle glen
don't fully understand what this tagged means
chrome hound
it refers to the IP header in the packet
it littery is a number applied to the header so the switch will route it to the right ports
subtle glen
wouldn't have all these problems if the gui wasn't broken
subtle glen
HAHA no
chrome hound
its good for you to learn buddy 😛
subtle glen
i think that having to click some icons on a web page is easier than having to remember tons of commands that go in an empty black box
chrome hound
lol
subtle glen
it's like people that use operating systems that don't have a desktop cause "having a desktop uses too many resources"
chrome hound
so you are saying you perfer this:
subtle glen
it's like people that use operating systems that don't have a desktop cause "having a desktop uses too many resources"
chrome hound
to this?
tuftswitch.3 # show po
policy Apply the filter-id attribute
ports ports
power Power Configuration
tuftswitch.3 # show ports
Port Summary Monitor Sat Jan 12 07:32:50 2019
Port Display VLAN Name Port Link Speed Duplex
String (or # VLANs) State State Actual Actual
=======================================================================
1 PUB-Juniper utopia E A 10G FULL
2 PUB-PfSense utopia E A 10G FULL
3 D R
4 D R
5 D R
6 D R
7 D R
8 D R
9 PRIV-PfSense home E A 10G FULL
10 PRIV-WiFi home E A 1000 HALF
11 PP-tuftpv01 (0002) E A 10G FULL
12 DATA-tuftpv01 netappdata E A 10G FULL
13 PP-tuftpv02 (0002) E A 10G FULL
14 DATA-tuftpv02 netappdata E A 10G FULL
Port State: D-Disabled, E-Enabled
Link State: A-Active, R-Ready, NP-Port Not Present, L-Loopback,
D-ELSM enabled but not up
d-Ethernet OAM enabled but not up
green gazelle
That why I use chrome os, I dont need an OS as I spend 100% of my time in chrome.
subtle glen
lol
chrome hound
how about this?
tuftswitch.2 # show vlan
Name VID Protocol Addr Flags Proto Ports Virtual
Active router
/Total
Default 1 --------------------D---------------------------- ANY 0 /0 VR-Default
home 192 192.168.1.9 /24 ----------------------------- ANY 20/25 VR-Default
Mgmt 4095 ------------------------------------------------- ANY 0 /1 VR-Mgmt
netappdata 10 ------------------------------------------------- ANY 6 /6 VR-Default
utopia 569 ------------------------------------------------- ANY 5 /5 VR-Default
so much easer to work with
subtle glen
i dont even know how to properly configure PFsense from the GUI just because there is too much stuff. but i am more likely to learn how to use that and not a CLI
chrome hound
lol thats not PfSense, that my switch
subtle glen
with CLI's you also get confused cause you have to see where the command finishes etc
the graphics were similar to PFsense 😂
chrome hound
good old extreme networks switch man 😄
subtle glen
just stick with this
chrome hound
holy crap this switch has been up for 197 days 6 hours 10 minutes 46 seconds
chrome hound
I can't if I did my whole ProxMox cluster would die
subtle glen
doesnt the RAM need to be cleared or something like that
chrome hound
lol not on an enterprise grade switch
subtle glen
so enterprises never restart equipment?
chrome hound
only when they have too
green gazelle
I restart all of mine every few weeks.
fresh copper
I love how the cli for my switch is undocumented, telnet only, has a separate password, is very buggy, and can barely do anything interesting anyway
green gazelle
reminds me of the ciscos I used to work on
fresh copper
vyos@bgp-router00-sea:~$ uptime
17:01:34 up 142 days, 21:36, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
That’s actually pretty impressive for my stuff
Usually I get to 30 days before I have some reason I need to reset
subtle glen
green gazelle
which colo in sea is that in? The westin? Komo?
subtle glen
?
green gazelle
that was for @fresh copper
fresh copper
@green gazelle that one is just a VPS. It’s from IonSwtich which colos in Wow Rack
I colo my main stuff in Fremont 2
green gazelle
I work in Fremont.
fresh copper
In the DC or just somewhere close by? Either way that’s cool. I have to visit some time because I need to reinstall the OS on my server and I don’t feel comfortable doing it remotely
green gazelle
We might be talking about different Fremonts.
clear igloo
Nice
subtle glen
i would say it is a good upgrade
clear igloo
lower latency too
subtle glen
ikr
clear igloo
fiber ftw 😛
subtle glen
Mmmmm fiber
clear igloo
Lol, the upload is a bit off today, usually it's right at 940
subtle glen
then someone will send that datacenter speedtest with the 9000mbps in download
clear igloo
Then I'll fire up my Spirent and show 100Gbps throughput 😛
subtle glen
i will call the isp to ask if the upload can be increased
hahahaha
i mean, fiber can do way more than 90 in upload
clear igloo
Fiber, technically, has no real limit aside distance of light and the optics
clear igloo
Yah
subtle glen
or load balance, so that the traffic is shared and if one goes down there is the other one
hope they dont turn it off in a few days xD
or i could put everyone on the 9 mbps and use the 1 gbps for me only
clear igloo
lol, evil 😛
subtle glen
i mean, netflix, whatsapp and stuff works really well on the 9 mbps 😂
whats the problem
clear igloo
Not bad for all HDDs on the NAS with no dedicated cache drive
clear igloo
lol
clear igloo
Only if you break it out to 4x10
So you can use a breakout cable on the 40G QSFP and breakout the port in some cases to a 4x10 and then you'll be limited but just a standard 40G to 40G connection, no breakout, and you'll be fine at up to 40Gbps
subtle glen
How is it possible that the edgerouter limits the connection that much?
clear igloo
What do you mean?
subtle glen
if i connect a pc directly to the ISP modem i get the 600/100 mbps, if i connect the pc to the edgerouter that is then connected to the isp modem i get like 152/94
clear igloo
What features do you have enabled on the Edgerouter?
IPS/IDS can cut down on throughput quite a bit
subtle glen
i only modified settings in the port forwarding/ddns/dhcp sections
i dont think i've done something with that IPS/IDS
clear igloo
New switch
Where you be?
Or could it be "who dis" since it would ask for the receiver 
subtle glen
mmmm qsfp
clear igloo
Is that a 5m or 7m AOC cable?
winged barn
personnal best at home
fresh copper
Here is my current. Decent for wifi, I pay for 600/20
http://www.speedtest.net/result/7952402983.png
rocky badge
lel
winged barn
server
inner hound
ugh my upload SUCKS
same results on the web version
i just dont have anything thats not wifi to use right now
fresh copper
hallow nimbus
Gimme pls
fresh copper
Lol
winged barn
(ﾉ*’ω’*)ﾉ彡┻━┻
robust holly
My original network has 100M downloads and then close to 30M uploads.
But a few days later, it suddenly became only 2.94M download and then uploaded 28.59M Ping is only 14ms but it is similar to use, but it is slow to download a few GB files.
unreal wedge
Might be a bad test node. If you're in the US, speedtest.xfinity.com is better to test from, though Comcast service isn't great.
fresh copper
Fast.com is decent. I usually see worse speeds than speedtest.net but it’s more consistent
turbid oriole
aLl YoU fAnCy EU's WiTh YoUr GiGaBiT wIfI
clear igloo
@rocky badge So future, much time travel, wow 😛
rocky badge
Lol
clear igloo
Already emailed the team about it 😛
glad prism
did you at least DL it first before they take it down? don't let big brother withhold their secrets
subtle glen
32 10/40/100/400 gbps ports 😱
6 fans on the back, i wonder how noisy it gets when you boot it up
orchid kraken
Hi guys, looking to setup a 10 gb home network, is there a guide or recommended equipment list?
List of machines
- Mac Pro (external 10 gb card)
- Macbook Pro (external 10 gb card)
- Mac Mini (internal 10 gb - not yet purchased)
rocky badge
@orchid kraken 10 Gigabit router, Cat6a Ethernet, 10 Gigabit switch
rocky badge
yee
orchid kraken
if I have all of the machines behind the 10gb switch it should be okay, no?
I don't have 10gb internet
rocky badge
I mean, why not 10 Gigabit router 🤔
rocky badge
the PCs will connect to the switch with 10 Gigabit, but depending on the switch, it might be able to do 10 gig between clients on the switch but the router will max out at Gigabit
🤔
orchid kraken
right but if all of the machines are behind the switch why would the packets reach the router?
rocky badge
not always 
orchid kraken
please explain
rocky badge
is the switch you're getting Level 2 or Level 3?
because L3 switches can use IP addresses in addition to MAC addresses.
L2 switches are limited to MAC addresses only
L3 switches can do routing tables, VLAN tagging by IP instead of port, etc etc
rocky badge
😄
orchid kraken
I haven't selected a switch yet.
rocky badge
Lurick might be able to help moar
orchid kraken
Came here to ask which one to get.
clear igloo
If you have the clients seperated with VLANs (different networks) then you need a 10gbit router or a L3 capable switch to do the routing
orchid kraken
Same VLAN
clear igloo
Then you're good
orchid kraken
coolio. Thanks
rocky badge
L2 would work yee
orchid kraken
@clear igloo Do you recommend any particular switches?
rocky badge
inb4 Cisco
clear igloo
Not really familiar with the budget 10Gbit stuff but there was some 4 port 10Gbit switch I saw a while back
Just can't remember if it was SFP or copper though
rocky badge
10GbE switches can be somewhat expensive
clear igloo
How many 10GbE clients @orchid kraken
orchid kraken
3
rocky badge
Ubnt only has 10Gb switches with the focus on SFP+
orchid kraken
can you convert SFP+ to CAT6A
rocky badge
Netgear has some 10GbE but those can be expensive
Yes
But those again are expensive per
clear igloo
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075Q5C3Z4/ is the chepest I see. Still trying to find the smaller 4-port one
rocky badge
Yeah... they're expensive
clear igloo
Ah, it's an SFP+ switch so you'll need DAC cables or fiber connections w/ SFP+
rocky badge
that can be somewhat expensive as well
clear igloo
Yes
rocky badge
ooof, xd
clear igloo
$117 for the switch, $100 for two 50m cables, $30 for the SFP+ transceivers. Still cheaper than the other switch 😛
rocky badge
Are his NICs Ethernet tho... because he said he has cat6a 🤔
orchid kraken
i mean i can switch nics
clear igloo
SFP NICs are usually cheaper if you go used but might not be pretty looking
clear igloo
TEG-10GECSFP is what I used before
orchid kraken
just setup conduit
rocky badge
Ah, ok, I thought you already had them lel
rocky badge
@clear igloo have you seen the Dell power connects that stack with HDMI lel
PowerConnect 5548 iirc
orchid kraken
forget sfp
hdmi
speaking of which
why does my av equipment require a separate internet connection
why isn't it routed over hdmi
i thought 1.4 spec offered it
green gazelle
I am working up the courage to rewire my house to just 6 drops of single mode everywhere
clear igloo
@rocky badge I get to learn about applied stats for STEM (yuck) and basic computer building XD
rocky badge
XD
clear igloo
"It might take up to two hours and 45 minutes to complete the module"
10 minutes later
Done with the whole exam, skipped through all the reading
rocky badge
LOL
clear igloo
I'm half tempted to take a picture of my PC and be like "Look at this, I can haz A+ now?"
clear igloo
I do, or did, but it's for school
rocky badge
oh
clear igloo
They didn't offer the option to test out 😦
rocky badge
rip
clear igloo
Well they offer TestOut but.... 😛
Not the option to test out, lol
umbral meteor
It's more the difference of when you are the internet provider/data center or just a consumer.
fresh copper
I find that mm fiber is usually more expensive though
And it has that shorter range
I never really understood the benefit
clear igloo
Fiber might be cheaper by a little bit, depending on the supplier, but optics are usually just as, if not more expensive, for single mode. Depending on the distance, some LR optics can be crazy expensive. Obviously you get more distance out of even SR-SM optics (2Km or so) but if distance isn't a factor, optic prices tend to be the deciding factor
fresh copper
Thanks! I never knew about the price of the optics. I knew that for long range optics it's more expensive but did not know that the optics for similar ranges were differently priced.
clear igloo
Yah, just a quick look at FS.com and you get, for example, a QSFP-100G-SR4-S which is multimode for $99 but the cheapest single mode optic is 4x that at $399, so it can add up fast
Edit:
Whoops, PSM4 is only $339 so only 3.4x(ish) more expensive
fresh copper
I'm thinking of actually getting one of those Mikrotik 4-port SFP+ switches for my colo. I can get a free 10G port on FCIX so why not. It's not too expensive to get the switch, an SFP+ transceiver, an SFP+ PCI-e card and a DAC for from the switch to my server
clear igloo
Could not AOC cables be considered a type of DAC 😛
unkempt crest
Guys i need advice. Get an old cisco Switch and learn command line stuff or get a ubiquiti switch new.
Both would be around $100 to $150 u.s
fresh copper
@ancient vigil I agree that DAC cables are kinda awful. For two devices that are right next to each other it's way cheeper though
gritty owl
@unkempt crest What cisco switch are you looking to get? Note some of the older ones can get pretty loud.
But I have both a Cisco 4948 and an Edgeswitch 24 250W. The unifi switches cost more than the edge switches too.
Also how much you like GUI vs CLI. haha
thick minnow
@ancient vigil what issues do you have with DAC cables? Always work well for me
thick minnow
if you want to learn networking and get your CCNA you should really pick something up like a cisco 3750 used
cisco certs are the most well known so thats why I got it
@unkempt crest
clear igloo
@ancient vigil Did you mention they get stuck 😛
They do, I haven't used them in forever so I forgot about that pain
Sliced my finger a few times on them
The trick is to push in the cable and pull on the tab, it sometimes works 😃
That works too 😛
clear igloo
Nothing like a warm cup of ND-ISSU to start the day off right 😄
gritty owl
lol, nothing like stuck DACs
clear igloo
push in and pull?
gritty owl
Yay, fiberstore DAC as well. haha
I'm definitely getting fiber transceivers when I get a 10Gb switch.
clear igloo
physical location?
Scale and features maybe if we're talking different groups of switches
clear igloo
Yah, catalyst is aimed for lower scale with more end user features but Nexus is blurring the lines on the N9K side by porting over some of those features like 802.1x but they (usually) have higher route scale and are designed for lower latency as well
N9K brings in high density high speed ports while the catalyst is more focused around higher density, but lower speed, ports as well. N9K can do ACI while the Catalyst 9K can do DNA stuff and focuses on the edge. There is some blurring of lines when you get into the aggregation of links but for edge stuff a ToR switch will sit at the top of a rack and aggregate the higher speed server links whereas a campus switch will either aggregate user ports and some edge server/compute stuff or aggregate access layer switches together before sending it back to the DC as an example.
Then you get into cases like the Catalyst 9500/9600 which can do some 100G and might be found in larger sites with a couple agg links to the DC or might even be in some DC roles like the Catalyst 6500 was back in the day (and to an extent can still be found)
glad prism
the Cat9K series switches are insane, using x86 as their core architecture
which is interesting considering Cisco had laid off portions of their hardware teams to pivot and focus on being a software company
also thought it would be cool to share my home lab stuff
ASA 5506-X
2504 WLC
3750X
2x 2950
2x 2611XM
2802i AP
3702E AP
clear igloo
Smexy 😃
rocky badge
PowerEdges 👌
glad prism
both 410s are dual xeon with ~16TB combined storage. the R410 will never be used again because it's too loud so I'll be pooling storage with the T410
the xigmatek is a dual xeon gaming rig that's been repurposed to be an esxi host, but will mostly run servers for network-based applications
UC services, DNS, syslog/NMS, vWLCs, GNS3, etc.
tawny seal
clear igloo
The switch looks so lonely 😛
tawny seal
haha i know
I ordered the rack mount ears since it diddnt come with them but 22$ on ebay for Cisco 3500 XL
green gazelle
why is b05 crossing like that!
subtle glen
Since I have 2 routers in cascade, and I still have to find a way to bridge my new fiber gateway, that cable goes from that port (connected to my minecraft server) directly into the isp gateway so that I can port forward and don't have to deal with double nat stuff
Now that I am thinking about it I could make a vlan just to have that cable look like the other ones😂
green gazelle
bah
pseudo blade
Ha. I remember when I thought routers needed at least two interfaces to work. VLANs are so useful.
Literally been using one of these as my home router so I could shape Netflix (only 3-4mbps to the home, everything dies if I don't). https://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/catalog/RBGroove MISC SHOT.jpg
Don't buy one of these for that purpose, obviously. Just had one lying around and needed something to sit behind the home gateway.
mild turtle
Any tips on how to pick a switch? There's a bunch of options all around the same pricing. Some look like older models and there's some that look newer. Example GS205 to the GS305.
umbral tide
hi can someone help me, did anyone ever use freenom?
storm pumice
@mild turtle used Cisco 2960S
hallow nimbus
👀
toxic quartz
haha
subtle glen
only 100 gbps?
toxic quartz
only thing i can give you is the link where you caan buy them
subtle glen
you can do better
toxic quartz
We have some 400GB ones
subtle glen
now we talkin'
subtle glen
btw @gritty owl , looks like the switch doesn't like the isp fiber to be plugged in directly xD
clear igloo
From who? Not aware of any 400GbE stuff on the market yet
subtle glen
lol
clear igloo
I know but there is no 400Gb optics on the market, no switches that I know of either with 400GbE ports
toxic quartz
il will make a pic if i have time
subtle glen
isn't the cisco one on the market yet?
clear igloo
Everything I've seen from vendors points to Q2 of this year
subtle glen
not that i am willing to buy one, but..
clear igloo
Its possible there are some EFT hardware switches out there though
toxic quartz
we also have some 100G interconnects 😃
clear igloo
It could be 400Gb if it's DWDM stuff since that's going to use different 100G lambdas though
clear igloo
That might explain it 😃
clear igloo
All 400Gb native ethernet ports are Q2 or Q3 from all the vendor press I've seen but 400Gb+ over DWDM is definitely possible today 😃
hallow nimbus
Discord ur stupid media proxy is slow as hecc
clear igloo
@hallow nimbus Or maybe you're the slow one O_O
subtle glen
OOO
hallow nimbus
Nope
subtle glen
don't i seem fine?
hallow nimbus
peasant
clear igloo
It's still stuck at 360p?
toxic quartz
Yes
subtle glen
lol
toxic quartz
from here yes
clear igloo
Wow, I guess I was right with my comment 😛
clear igloo
"Nope. It's fucked" to answer the question in the video title XD
hallow nimbus
Wat
subtle glen
oh btw on Monday they shut down the 2nd internet connection😭
clear igloo
oof
hallow nimbus
Where is here @toxic quartz ?
toxic quartz
Netherlands
subtle glen
@toxic quartz i pay like 20/mo for 900/100
subtle glen
1000/100*
hallow nimbus
What provider @toxic quartz ?
subtle glen
but it never reaches 1000 (or 900)
toxic quartz
Tweak
clear igloo
I pay $80 or 70 Euro for mine 😛
subtle glen
gigabit?
clear igloo
yup, 1000/1000
toxic quartz
yes
subtle glen
mmmm so much upload
subtle glen
you need 20/10
clear igloo
Wow, that's a steal
subtle glen
thats it
hallow nimbus
Back GTFO
toxic quartz
45$ dollar
subtle glen
HAAA
clear igloo
Nobody needs more than 640Kbps in either direction
hallow nimbus
@toxic quartz "Op jouw adres is helaas geen glasvezel mogelijk. Je kunt wel onze enquête invullen om ons te laten weten dat je graag glasvezel wil hebben."
Fuck me
toxic quartz
Haha
subtle glen
ey ey english
hallow nimbus
Hold on
clear igloo
He translated it, all that is "fuck me"
hallow nimbus
On your address there is no fiber posible you can fill out a survey to let us know that you wanna have fiber
Simplefied
😂
And thier DSL is shiet
max 50Mbit
toxic quartz
They say it on my address to, but i called and they say that it is possible
hallow nimbus
Wat
clear igloo
@hallow nimbus AT&T?
subtle glen
can you have more than one fiber line in your house?
clear igloo
No wait, you're not in freedom land
toxic quartz
they dont focus on DSL but there main focus is fiber
hallow nimbus
I dont use freetard units
clear igloo
😦
hallow nimbus
Netherlands is where its at
toxic quartz
and cheap cheese
toxic quartz
and cheap internet
toxic quartz
and cheap 4G
clear igloo
I prefer cheap french fries and burgers with a small diet soda
clear igloo
insert horror story of freedom care here
toxic quartz
and healthcare
toxic quartz
i would like to go to ltx tho
hallow nimbus
^
clear igloo
If it's less than 30 letters, it's not a real city
hallow nimbus
But its hella expensive
toxic quartz
ehh.. Lelystad
clear igloo
Or is that Iceland?
toxic quartz
ok i will tell you one thine
hallow nimbus
👀
hallow nimbus
Ohhh i know
toxic quartz
hehehe
but is network video in 1080P yet?
because i want to see anthony play with network gear
toxic quartz
i like anthony
subtle glen
is he the network guy in there or he just have experience with networking gear?
clear igloo
He mentioned he used to do networking years ago
gritty owl
@subtle glen Ah, not surprised the ISP fiber didn't work. haha
gritty owl
But yeah, that whole video for the server room was just painful to watch. haha
subtle glen
sfp*
toxic quartz
i like that guy
gritty owl
Especially the UniFi controller. No backup file at all for the cloud key
Yeah, I like Anthony too. haha
subtle glen
@gritty owl what could i do if the ISP modem doesn't have bridge modem?
maybe instead of using the switch as a media converter i could buy a real media converter
gritty owl
Cry. lol. You wouldn't have much choice unless they let you use self bought equipment...
I'm pretty sure you're going to have to use the ONT the ISP gives you
subtle glen
https://lublog.tuttoeniente.net/archives/578/fastweb-fibra-1000-ftth-gpon-senza-modem-fastgate
for example this guy has my same fiber technology (GPON) and he uses the media converter. I have another ISP tho, and i have VoiP enabled but i could bypass that with those cisco voip boxes things
the guide is in italian tho
toxic quartz
pizzza
subtle glen
mafia
toxic quartz
that's how the maffia works
subtle glen
big chungus
maybe choosing an ISP that also puts the media converter was a better choice
gritty owl
Well, you can always try to do it I guess. Your ISP might be nicer. haha
Yeah, I'm lucky ours just uses a pass through ONT
subtle glen
it might work but i am more worried about the VoiP part. Lurick said it could be possible to use those things tho, and not the ISP modem
subtle glen
😕
unkempt crest
Comcast is super nice and gave us a router, modem, switch, ap combo.
It's so good that we pay $20 a month just for the physical device and got a nighthawk x6 to do everything else.
green gazelle
I throw out the supplied stuff. I can buy a replacement for less then 4 months and it will be so much better.
clear igloo
It's different when they don't give you a choice to throw their crap out =/
unkempt crest
If you throw out the comcast one you have to pay for the whole thing. The exact same one on Newegg is tops like $50 but comcast thinks differently.
clear igloo
Yah, Comcast is so nice 😛
clear igloo
O_O!
unkempt crest
But we don't have any close fiber runs in our neighborhood so its not really worth paying to run the fiber and dealing with the HOA
clear igloo
And no Charter either =/
unkempt crest
We had century link and it kinda sucked.
green gazelle
Doesnt sky require you use their terrible equipment?
clear igloo
At least with Charter you can get 940/40 for $120
unkempt crest
yea i wish we could do that with comcast. It's hard to convince my parents to get anything more but i understand why.
Theres also i think like a 1tb data cap which i hit when i bought my laptop and downloaded my steam library.
clear igloo
oof
unkempt crest
Yea
I wonder if I can make my house a "Business"
lol
no data caps
Or you could get literally any thing else from another fiber provider for way cheaper...
green gazelle
Sounds about right
lean pollen
US is in the stone age with data caps on internet in your home
I am just saying, having data caps on home internet is stone age, and many places in US seem to have it
clear igloo
Surprisingly Charter doesn't, AT&T has it for their slower stuff but not fiber. Comcast just doesn't give a damn
clear igloo
They would charge you for thinking about internet if they could
fresh copper
I'm thinking of setting up SIP
clear igloo
small sip, big sip, medium sip?
clear igloo
Slow sip? What kind of sip 😛
regal chasm
why sip when you can succ
clear igloo
(kidding, I know you mean voice) 😛
fresh copper
succ does not have all of the same features
and can't be trunked to gain access to the outside world
regal chasm
okay
fresh copper
I love the graphs that pool.ntp.org make
Here are mine: https://www.ntppool.org/user/pb8yvobuaj4oscre4yfw
sacred steeple
Suggestions for a good adsl modem/router combo (for home use)?
tawny seal
Hmm okay cause on amazon there like 200$+
I really need a four post large server rack
thick minnow
Comcast still has "unlimited" within the Northeast Verizon Fios region, however upload speeds are 6 Mbps($29.99-74.99 plans) to 20 Mbps(mostly Blast/Blast Pro) depending upon your download speed tier. You can typically get business service from any local ISP without any headaches, keep in mind it'll usually require a 2yr contract and bundle deals are much more different than residential. For example in my area you can get business internet+phone cheaper than residential, however if you want Cable TV you're stuck with "safe for work" bundles. Business internet also requires renting a modem if you opt for a static IP
tawny seal
I live in the middle of no where Craigslist is no help
gritty owl
Just make sure it's square holes if you're using it for servers
tawny seal
Also eBay has no ones available for shipping used
bold karma
why do you need a 42U rack...don't get me wrong i want one myself, but just trying to asses your need so I can make a sound suggestion
bold karma
i totally get that...I have a rack that I bought off a guy, but it's not what I want...in fact I only bought it because it had to go with the 5 servers that he was selling...he wasn't going to break them up
so 5 servers and a rack for $300 was a great price...granted they are old old servers, the chasies are what i was ultimately after.
@tawny seal here's one on Ebay: https://www.ebay.com/i/132907922994?chn=ps
mild turtle
I'm looking to set my room up with a switch for the multiple devices I have. I've been looking at the GS105E 5 port managed. Anyone have any experience with this? I'll have at least two devices running at a time and I don't want bottle necking.
hot adder
Literally just go to walmart and buy a $20 5-port dummy switch
it's all you need
I used up all 5 ports and never slowed down
mild turtle
That would be great if I lived in the US or Australia.
hot adder
go to your local store*
mild turtle
Don't mean to be rude or cause offense but that doesn't help me. I'm specifically asking about this switch since it's the one that looks relatively decent for my needs but want a second opinion. Just going and picking an old switch seems stupid to me without actually checking every single box and reading the details.
hot adder
When it comes to switches, the only time you'll need to study the specs is when you're running a big server or datacenter. For your home needs, all you need is a cheap consumer switch. What are your network speeds?
$48 is a lot to waste on a switch
mild turtle
Right now near 50Mbps. In the future possibly 100 and over. I don't see my speed changing for at least a year so I'm happy with a 100Mbps switch. The switch itself isn't actually that expensive here, it's around the same price as almost any other switch I've seen, maybe a bit more expensive but only by a few dollars.
hot adder
At home I ran 150/10 and my room only had one port. I bought the cheapest switch I could find from best buy. I plugged in my xbox, pc, fire stick, and passed the connection through to my brother's ps4. There was little to no drop in speed. At least nothing noticeable.
I had this or at least something really similar
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/netgear-5-port-10-100-1000-mbps-gigabit-unmanaged-switch-white/7902325.p?skuId=7902325
mild turtle
See another switch I looked at there were reviews saying that the switch was being bottled necked when at least two devices were taking connection at the same time.
hot adder
I never had any slow downs personally
mild turtle
That funnily enough is the switch I'm talking about, the one you linked.
hot adder
?
I copied the model you posted and it was different
and more expensive
Any modern switch should be fine, even cheap ones like mine
mild turtle
The link you shared a few minutes ago was the switch I was reading reviews detailing the bottle necking. The switch I said originally I haven't read about bottle necking. I just did a currency conversion. It's $30 the one I'm looking to buy. Now you might argue that the previous one you linked is only $21, but I'd retort by saying that has a plastic housing and the one I'm looking at doesn't.
hot adder
The one you linked is a higher quality switch, but you don't need the extra stuff is what I'm saying. The one I linked is perfectly adequate.
My internet is faster and I don't experience slow downs
mild turtle
Fair enough.
hot adder
In the end it's all up to you
It's your money
I would personally (already did lol) buy the cheaper one
pseudo blade
50mbps is easy with pretty much anything bought outside of an antique store.
I'd go gigabit because frankly there is almost zero price difference for simple unmanaged stuff.
carmine moss
Unmanaged is better for a home switch
tawny seal
That rack is way to big I’m sticking with that other one I found
rocky badge
@carmine moss managed > unmanaged
green gazelle
@rocky badge yes and no. For the average internet user unmanned is better. For people who care about vlans or qos managed is better. But saying hey random person that just wants to share internet "here is an entire eco system you don't care about go learn it once have fun", is probably not the most friendly thing to do.
carmine moss
for most people unmanaged is better in home use only if you realy like to set everything up completly then managed is better but if you just need a few more ports unmanaged
chrome hound
Managed every time, even if your not using it they are better switches
thick minnow
In my opinion if you plan to have a moderately active home network(multiple wired devices, media server/NAS, etc), a managed switch will provide a bit more routing headroom--beyond QoS and VLAN, there are switches which handle sustained network load better. (unmanaged switches vary in quality, some cheap makers don't use solid capacitors and they fail after 2-3yrs)
bold karma
It's going to boil down to your skill level really.
toxic quartz
hi guys
rocky badge
thick minnow
that fucking ups failed again
bold karma
time to buy a new one
thick minnow
Brought down the entire school network this time
Literally every single network appliance that serves primary and secondary schools under the council died
thick minnow
Good thing kids don't need the internet 
bold karma
While I agree with that statement, I know most kids would call you Satan for that statement.
hot adder
I actually think that the internet has become a vital component to education.
bold karma
sure it has, but it also makes kids lazy
rocky badge
@thick minnow https
thick minnow
Life before the internet had plenty of unique freedom--mobile phones like pagers weren't common, you had to rely upon a telephone book to look up info and research required digging into library catalogs(books, microfilm, etc).
ashen kernel
dose anyone know how the confg xover cable i'm trying to use the Wi-Fi connection from my laptop on my desktop and I do not have a working dongle
ashen kernel
Crossover
ashen kernel
I need to use the Wi-Fi on my laptop On my desktop and I forgot completely how to set it up
via crossover
hot adder
if you don't have a crossover cable laying around, you can use a switch
or if you really want to, make a crossover cable
ashen kernel
I don't have a switch and I already said crossover referring to that far I have one
and All i need is the config
hot adder
I'm guessing english isn't your first language? It's pretty hard to understand. I think you're saying that you have the cable, but you don't know how to set up the network on the desktop right?
I used to pass internet from my laptop to my xbox 360 back in the days, so I might be able to help
maybe try this:
Press Windows key + X to open the Power User menu and select Network Connections.
Right-click the network adapter with an Internet connection (Ethernet or wireless network adapter), then select Properties.
Click Sharing.
Put a check mark on Allow other network users to connect through this computer’s Internet connection.
From the Home networking connection drop-down menu, select the Microsoft Hosted Virtual Adapter.
Click OK to finish.
ashen kernel
I'm Australian But I hate spelling
hot adder
oh rip
ashen kernel
Yer It's a bummer so do I dupe the IPv4 settings
hot adder
there should be a sharing setting in the properties
you shouldn't need to edit settings manually
ashen kernel
yer I have a windows 7 desktop and a win 8 laptop
hot adder
instead of ethernet, do that on your laptop's wifi
I just don't use a wifi card in my pc
ashen kernel
like I already have it plugged in And dam this is the first time in 3 years this has actually work without me having to configure something
hot adder
is it working?
ashen kernel
Thanks dude life saver
ashen kernel
yeah that's fun I did it on my old q6600 and I blew my board
green gazelle
Fine in my opinion. Not sure why someone would be against it.
Almost every DC I have seen uses 10/
The only one that didn't were universities trying to justify their rediculously large ip pools.
clear igloo
Gotta use them public IPs somehow 😛
hallow nimbus
😂
noble halo
so been having problems for the past month or so. I pay for 150mb and i get around 140ish during the day (which is fine and i expect). Then around 8pm every night till past midnight my speeds drop significantly. down to 30-40mb and sometimes 5mb. and even last night it was 1mb. I live in an apartment complex and know about having a ton of traffic would slow down speeds. but i didn't think it would go that low. called the ISP and they are basically saying there is nothing they can do. fml
queen steppe
Rip
noble halo
couldn't even speed test last night lmao. it would just timeout
clear igloo
Ouch, that must be a very congested link x.x
noble halo
crazy. i've lived there 3 years and never had a problem until now.
planning on moving into a house and already trying to read up on networking so i can set up ethernet all through the house lol
noble halo
that's what im saying. damn grandma streaming all night
only new ppl are kids.. i bet its fortnite or a minecraft server
clear igloo
A couple things, don't use any CCA cables, plan out everything and then check and plan again. Make sure everything will be where you want it. Run extra ports for future expansion, etc.
noble halo
sorry but what's CCA?
clear igloo
Copper Clad Aluminium
It's aluminum wire with a thin coating of copper, it works like crap and breaks easily
clear igloo
You want pure copper ethernet cables. They usually state CCA on the product, just get pure copper instead
Yah, there are 8 wires in an ethernet cable and CCA is like a weaker and cheaper version that can really bite you later on
It's basically a way for a manufacturer to save a few bucks and sell lower quality cables for like $0.50 less
carmine moss
there are a lot of different types of ethernet cables some are crap some are realy nice
clear igloo
You in the states @noble halo ?
clear igloo
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016YS99X0/ref=psdc_9938478011_t2_B004Y6L0LY
I would recommend something like this
Not the greatest of the bunch and Cat5E might be okay but I like the extra noise reduction and shielding in Cat6 personally
noble halo
use that when running through a house or even using now in an apartment?
clear igloo
I would save that for a home
carmine moss
it's more a problem if it's in the walls if it just from the outlet to the pc it's less bad but still not so good
clear igloo
Yah, good for short runs but in long runs it's pretty bad ^
noble halo
well.. the cable i have is 100ft
but the speeds i get now are good when i don't have ISP issues
this is what i have now
carmine moss
i have had a lot of different cables and one cable that i realy like is the realy flexable cable but some others are still goo
clear igloo
Cable Matters is another good maker of cable, they use pure copper too
@noble halo If you have AT&T in the area, run a single Cat6 cable from your aggregation point to the crawl space (if you have one in the house). That way if you get AT&T Fiber or something down the line you're ready to go
I have my aggregation point, where all my cables come into, in my closet with my networking gear, servers, etc. but you might have a better space for it.
noble halo
sorry. so aggregation point is just where you would have the modem/switch and everything?
where the cables from the walls all run to?
clear igloo
Yah, where everything comes together in a central point
noble halo
crawl space as in under the house?
clear igloo
Yup, some houses are on a slab so you can't get under the house but others have a crawl space so you can get under the house
noble halo
yeah. that's what i thought. the house will prob have access to AT&T if i find a house lol.
do they normally just run fiber to under the house and you run ethernet from that?
i've only had cable internet so i've always just had a modem in the house where they put it
clear igloo
Yah, they run it to the outside or under the house to an ONT and then it converts it to copper ethernet
noble halo
oh. do they run an ethernet to a company provided modem or router inside? im just thinking about an ordinary customer.
clear igloo
Yah
noble halo
okay gotcha. sorry, just never messed with fiber. even though i want it so bad lol
clear igloo
But I ran my own because I was ripping things out in the house anyway and it seemed easier to do it in advance than wait for them since at the time it wasn't 100% they were even coming to my neighborhood and I didn't want to leave things ripped open or have them rip things open to do it
noble halo
yep i would want to do the same too. and then you just take their modem and put it in the aggregate point i want
clear igloo
Correct
noble halo
cool. how did you know where they would put it? or you just ran wire down there with a good bit of excess?
clear igloo
I just ran it down with some extra but generally they put it near the other utility boxes along the back or side of the house