Btw if you contact dlink sales team via email, you get an engineer responding to sale questions. I kinda liked that because they knew exactly what i wanted to know
#networking
pseudo blade
Huh. That's an interesting way of handling support.
little schooner
Just for sales though. Not product support
pseudo blade
Oh.
little schooner
I guess they want to make sure people buy from them
Support could be afterthought lol
pseudo blade
Mikrotik could improve on that front. You have the wiki, product page and forum.
They are generally not quick to answer support emails.
pseudo blade
But the devices are basically unmatched at their price points.
Oh, easily.
PoE is automatic.
Depending on cable length you may need to enable one setting.
pseudo blade
You're using winbox or webfig, yes?
little schooner
It's still shipping, but winbox and webfig are basically the gui ways to configure it
I suppose
pseudo blade
Ah. If you want to have a poke around the UI, download winbox and point it at demo.mt.lv or demo2.mt.lv
Or go there with a web browser or your SSH client of choice.
Port 5 on demo2 is PoE.
You can't change anything but eh, gives you a feel for it.
little schooner
Hmm alright yeah i'll give that a look. Thanks @pseudo blade
hallow nimbus
😂
little schooner
@ancient vigil they should simplify it like ubnt does
subtle glen
use paint
stiff mirage
Its destroying me that they made my neat tidy sectioned cables into a rats nest
And now I'm back in here terminating into the patch panel and trying not to lose my mind😑
Oh and the naming convention has been changed as well
fresh copper
Ouch
little schooner
Man that is the perfect case to use the wire comb tool
rocky badge
rip
unkempt ferry
Oof
fresh copper
I feel that something is wrong Routes: 59188 imported, 4294967241 exported
hallow nimbus
👀
clear igloo
lol, just a few exported routes
pale sphinx
🤔 Can't get this D-Link DWA-121 working on latest raspbian... latest img should contain the drivers for it
fresh copper
I think that the number is broken
I had fixed it at one point but now it is back
Channel ipv6
State: UP
Table: master6
Preference: 100
Input filter: ACCEPT
Output filter: ACCEPT
Routes: 59189 imported, 4294967213 exported
Route change stats: received rejected filtered ignored accepted
Import updates: 61185 0 0 1073 60112
Import withdraws: 167 0 --- 35 132
Export updates: 116952 60202 0 --- 56750
Export withdraws: 162 --- --- --- 56731
BGP Next hop: 2a06:e881:121:12::1 fe80::18cb:64ff:fefc:ba54
Intel is taking an awfully long time to release fixed intel nic drivers for 1809
elfin socket
https://youtu.be/MDiiHN0MPdA
@rocky badge
Thoughts?
Heh. Sfp+ on amazon now for $20?
rocky badge
🤔
elfin socket
And a stanard gigabit rj-45 to get into the wider Internet. No weird token ring kinda thing
clear igloo
Token ring ftw
little schooner
@elfin socket I bought my first mikrotik product so I will see how good of quality the product is
subtle glen
There you go 😄 , SFP+ switch with 2 ethernet ports for token ring
clear igloo
One is a management port and the other a console port, no Token Ring there
subtle glen
didnt see the specs 😬
hallow nimbus
....
subtle glen
u wot
hallow nimbus
Read the specs before you post something lul
subtle glen
u want 20/10?
hallow nimbus
NEIN
plucky marlin
I'm a bit lost with some VLAN configuration...
I've got a house that I want to have two separate networks but both connecting to the internet via the same router.
So...
Internet - Router - network 1
\_ network 2
The router is also the wifi AP for network one. I have a Netear ProSafe Plus GS105E to set up the network management.
Unfortunately, I haven't really got a clue what I'm doing with VLANs! Anyone able to help?
clear igloo
You can do one of a few things, either 1 port per VLAN to the router with the L3 interface there, an SVI (L3 interface) for each VLAN on the switch, or do sub-interfaces on the router with one per VLAN and trunk both VLANs from the switch to the router
plucky marlin
A few years ago, I may have understood that sentence. But I'm afraid I'm a bit lost these days.
One port per VLAN makes sense and is what I want to do, I think. I've currently got VLAN 1 set on ports 2-5 and VLAN 2 on port 1. But how to get them to work as I intend, I don't know.
clear igloo
What do you have for the router?
plucky marlin
Well it's a TalkTalk FAST 5364 or something along those lines.
clear igloo
Sub-Interfaces would be better, allow you to use a single port and send both VLANs over that single link, but the router would need to support it
plucky marlin
I highly doubt an ISP provided router can do that.
clear igloo
Yah, not familiar with the switch so not sure off the top of my head if you can put the L3 interfaces for each VLAN on the switch directly
plucky marlin
I've also got a BT Homehub 3 but it's a commercial one - if that has any capabilities the TalkTalk one doesn't.
subtle glen
I'm trying to double port forward from the main gateway to the edgerouter to my computer but i cannot connect to my server. If i connect my pc directly to the gateway and keep the same port forward settings (and just change the local host ip) it works, so it's not a pc firewall problem. anyone has an idea of what's wrong? [ edgerouter is connected to the main gateway using 10.0.0.11 /16 and my pc is connected to the edgerouter using 192.168.1.132 /24]
rocky badge
double NAT 🤢
subtle glen
heh, not even trying to put the gateway in bridge mode since i'm going ftth and that gateway will be gone
hallow nimbus
Give me that right fucking now
fresh copper
Note that this is not at my house
chrome hound
was that a dig at me 😛
fresh copper
I love when the ISP is someone's name
tulip magnet
Setting up my first NAS - an Odroid HC2 with a $20 WD Green 2TB drive I got from my local pawn-shop-like shop.
First order of business is to do a full wipe. Screwed up the first time using a USB-to-SATA adapter, because near of the end I accidentally wiggled the USB end a bit too much. }:[
This is going to be fun.
hallow nimbus
ERM
hallow nimbus
ITS FINE
split quest
hey so how would i forward a friends server ip to my network so it acted like his server was on my network
subtle glen
vpn?
tulip magnet
Ever since setting up my new machine, I have been confused as to why under Windows 10 my PC could find no other PCs on the network - nothing. Not even if I provided a direct network link to other PCs (such as my Windows 98 and XP installs - I have a couple of retro PCs 😃 ). Same thing for the other direction - other PCs couldn't access anything I shared on this PC over the network.
I just set up an Odroid HC2 NAS for the purpose of overcoming this quirk (as well as to provide a nice big, centralized storage pool), but even after setting up the NAS, my PC wouldn't even detect the NAS over the network!
Upon further research, it turns out that I had to "add" some additional features to Windows 10 related to network sharing to fix this "network blindness" that my new Windows 10 install was facing. Now things are working like they were with my original setup, and I'm able to access my WIn98 and XP installs over the network, as well as access my NAS. YES!
tulip magnet
IKR?
hallow nimbus
Yea
tulip magnet
Quirks of Windows 10.
tulip magnet
I wonder if it's because of this default "not installing older network stuff" that so many people have been having problems with networking with Win10.
Here's the link that I found out about this:
high anchor
SMB 1.0 is highly vulnerable to a lot of stuff (like wannacry) and shouldn't be enabled or used on a regular basis. You could protect your Win10 PC a bit by disabling the SMB 1.0 server and disabling the rest when you don't use it.
@hallow nimbus Yeah, I'm really tired and I was searching for my words ^^'
hallow nimbus
😂
high anchor
(I'm on my way to my bed so ^^')
hallow nimbus
Ah
high anchor
It's past midnight in France
high anchor
Yeah but I'm really tired tonight. Normally I'd stay awake until 2, but it looks I'll not doing it tonight ^^'
hallow nimbus
👀
little schooner
@tulip magnet Uhh that was disabled for a reason. Microsoft announced that starting from a certain build of Windows 10 that SMB 1.0 support would be deprecated because it is exploit riddled
SMB 1.0 was promient in older versions of Windows, so that is why it needed to be enabled to talk to older clients
tulip magnet
@high anchor, @little schooner, those are indeed good reasons to not have it enabled, and I'm for disabling it when needed. There's no way, though, that I'm going to have it permanently disabled. :)
Using the same article as a reference:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2696547/how-to-detect-enable-and-disable-smbv1-smbv2-and-smbv3-in-windows-and
It mentions commands to disable and enable SMB 1.0 via Powershell. Now, I have only used Powershell a few times, but I know that you can write Powershell scripts. Would I be able to write a script to enable SMB 1.0 when I want to access my NAS or my Win98/XP PCs and then write another to disable it in the meantime, all without rebooting Windows 10? From what I can tell, these SMB 1.0 features run as a server, so I wouldn't need to restart Windows 10 to turn on and off this server, no?
little schooner
Yeah, I dont think it requires a reboot. So you can technically disable/enable at will via a powershell script, yes
Although, I see it this way: if you dont got ports forwarded into your network from the internet
there is no harm leaving it enabled since no one from the internet will get in anyway to exploit SMB 1.0
tulip magnet
True. Yeah, I'm not hosting anything here in my apartment, so I should be safe. XD
Well, "safe". I guess no one is really.
*Bear in mind my networking knowledge is like level 1. XD
little schooner
@tulip magnet I have an android app called foldersync that went abandoned by the developer and its stuck on SMB 1.0 transfers
So I'm kinda upset that SMB 2.0 will never come to the app
little schooner
Like the ups
tulip magnet
My main i7-3770k system, which triple boots Windows XP, 10, and Linux Mint 19, is on the desk, and next to it, the white PC is a Pentium 4 Prescott HT 550 3.4GHz that dual-boots Windows 98SE and XP, and the black PC is a Pentium 3 Tualatin 1.4GHz that boots Win98SE. Being able to transfer files over network between all of those PCs is soooo nice.
tulip magnet
It's awesome. Sadly, I found out that my CyberPower UPS ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00429N192/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ) isn't that good, because one night I was playing some Overwatch on my earlier revision of my main PC (i7-870 on a shit Asus mATX board), the power went out, and so too did my PC. It could have been because of the motherboard, but most likely the PC was pulling too much wattage too fast, and the UPS, which is not in-line, just couldn't switch to battery power quickly enough. Still, the thing works when I'm not really doing anything, and the power goes out, so there's that.
*BTW, the PC still worked afterwards, so that was good. 😄
queen plover
hmm that should be enough power to run most
I have the 1500 model and never had problems with blackouts
tulip magnet
IDK. That was what happened with me. Probs just the old motherboard or somethin'.
And it's not like the PC's PSU is bad (I reused a lot of the parts from the original build in my current build - it was just a platform + case upgrade, a much needed one): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N18J52E/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
queen plover
It could be the psu is sensitive to the switching in the ups
tulip magnet
Possibly, yeah. But, I was using a crappy Asus P7H55-M motherboard with a piss-poor VRM solution with an i7-870, so that didn't help either.
IDK
Hopefully, that doesn't happen again.
keen sorrel
Anyone experienced with Softether VPN server management? Got a question about what I think is an issue with the bridge settings
edgy pasture
How good is synology
I want a nas i can upgrade and is network accessable
And has easy interface
little schooner
@edgy pasture upgrade as in add more drives? Synology has the most simplest, great looking UI for NAS units
edgy pasture
Any sugestion on a unit
@little schooner
I want something that will last and let me stream from it
And yes add more drives
Its for personal use
unkempt ferry
Anyone know any free SSTP vpns that I can use?
Idon't care about provacy
privacy
tulip magnet
@edgy pasture I'd be careful with Synology. Gamers Nexus has had the worst luck with their units.
edgy pasture
Then who do i go with
edgy pasture
How about QNAP
tulip magnet
Sorry, @edgy pasture, I was cleaning my keyboard. :p
That I cannot answer - I'm new to the NAS scene, and only built my first single-drive Odroid HC2 NAS a few days ago.
I will say that Asustor and Qnap are good picks.
But, I am going off of others' words.
clear igloo
I've got two QNAP boxes myself and they are both wonderful
slow pivot
At a previous job we had three enterprise qnaps shit themselves; piles of garbage as far as I’m concerned
Their support was less than stellar as well
little schooner
The new intel 23.5 drivers completely destroyed my build of server 2016 that was also missing 11-2018 culumative update.
I got a DPC watchdog error and now all my interfaces completely disappeared and older drivers wont install
They weren't kidding about the new style of drivers being very hard to remove
subtle glen
is zyxel a good brand?
little schooner
@subtle glen I had their powerline adapters. I couldn't complain about them, they just worked
edgy pasture
I have seen everyone praise 918+
misty sentinel
I am just suffering here with these shiets
subtle glen
Getting close now
misty sentinel
subtle glen
just waiting for the isp to contact me and decide when to mount the optic fiber plug
misty sentinel
Nice 👌
subtle glen
i will be paying 20/month for 900/200
real hamlet
The 1000 up im getting rn is only good for streaming 144p@24fps
hallow nimbus
Wat
hallow nimbus
My connection does 8K HDR easly
real hamlet
Same
real hamlet
Although I have to watch it on a 2560x1080 monitor lol
real hamlet
o-o
hallow nimbus
No wait
real hamlet
Anything good on floatplane atm?
hallow nimbus
👀
real hamlet
oof
hallow nimbus
Max i can get 500/50 atm
real hamlet
Not bad
hallow nimbus
But i have 200/20
real hamlet
I upgraded from 20/2
hallow nimbus
Yikes
real hamlet
😐
subtle glen
in theory i still have that, the 1 gbps one is not active yet
real hamlet
Oof
hallow nimbus
Oof
real hamlet
My school also gives me as much cat6 cable as I want
subtle glen
...
real hamlet
:P
chrome hound
I don't seem to have that problem, ever
subtle glen
even when you download a lot of stuff?
Also i've read that with some isp's you have to put the same MAC address onto your personal router cause if you don't, the isp wont recognize your router and change other complicated settings, is it true?
little schooner
If only comcast would offer higher upload speeds. there is a huge disparity with download and upload.
Download is 150 and upload is a strict less than 5 mbps
Next package is 250 with 10 mbps
And last 450 with 10 mbps
hallow nimbus
What
That upload sucks
Cant they do math's or something
More download use = more upload use or am i stupid right now
subtle glen
@hallow nimbus i've seen an article of an isp using 1 public ip for an entire neighbourhood and since you have 1 ip shared between several houses you cannot host any kind of server etc
sometimes isp's are dumb
lean pollen
If I actually had one of those ISPs that had fiber, both up and down would be the same ofc
hallow nimbus
@subtle glen My ip aint shared with the neighbourhood 😄
lean pollen
Oh, they actually have 1000 down now
before the max was 500 on my ISP
I dont need that tho
I think I have my own IP
how do you know?
hallow nimbus
@ancient vigil You can miss some of that traffic right 👀
👀
I need enough speed to make my hdd's throttle of data
Because now my upload is a limiting factor
👀
So erm
Give me a space in that data center pls 😄
Nas local lol
Aka ur work
Yikes time to sleep
👋
gimme it
👋
....
Only 50TB
Cornor now
chrome hound
200 mbps is so slow
rocky badge
no u
The past week
@hallow nimbus @chrome hound https://linusdrop.tips/Q81mqxv.png
subtle glen
well but after you did your first backup, i dont think you will saturate that bandwith every time you backup
How hard is to saturate my 0.78 mbps up? 😂
isnt your isp complaining?
...
rocky badge
I'm just downloading my steam library over and over
subtle glen
idk, i've heard of american isp's complaining about high data usage from customers
rocky badge
past day https://linusdrop.tips/OyarmF6.png
subtle glen
lol nvm
chrome hound
I need to figure out how to get weekly stats out of my pfsense
subtle glen
lol you made him angry
chrome hound
to avoid DNS spaming
rocky badge
It's funny seeing my school laptop trying to find their servers with my domain
chrome hound
the quires them selves will tell you if you have bot agents on your network
rocky badge
12/10/2018 6:50:41 PM 09F4 PACKET 0000027CA14214E0 UDP Rcv 10.0.20.30 7aca Q [0001 D NOERROR] SRV (5)_ldap(4)_tcp(4)<removed>(6)_sites(2)dc(6)_msdcs(2)ad(5)ryois(2)me(0)
the <removed> is my school's site
So I wonder if I could trick AD 🤔
chrome hound
oh hey @rocky badge did I tell you I got my firewall up to 8/9 ish gbs
rocky badge
nicee
chrome hound
who new disabling hyperthreading would have such an effect
and if you use the speedtest app it will record it 😄
rocky badge
lmao disabling hyper threading was all it took?
rocky badge
Nice lol
chrome hound
got figure huh
chrome hound
thats not local, that's to Murry
this is the local one http://www.speedtest.net/result/d/3317c2c6-c70f-4b56-9412-8875af798207.png
rocky badge
Previous results?
chrome hound
thats the date I did them
I might have those backwards, the 3ms has to be the remote test server
subtle glen
yeah i mean, i dont think local performs worse than remote
chrome hound
well on a Layer 2 fiber network everything is really local 😛
subtle glen
my nas has a 1 gbps link
chrome hound
my netapp has both 10gig and 1gig
rocky badge
needs QSFP-DD
subtle glen
you need a 100 mbps ethernet link
chrome hound
my small nas of 25t in my back room at my home
subtle glen
"small"
chrome hound
compared to most, its small
subtle glen
...
rocky badge
Lol
subtle glen
only 100$ per month xD
chrome hound
its jsut 3 dell server, the netapp, x640 10gig sfp+ switch and a home made water cooled firewall
chrome hound
well its not usign the same concepts of timing a sized download so it doesn't need as much time to run
subtle glen
very nice
i like the 1.47 MB/s between the pc connected to that powerline and my nas
thats's why i want to run the fiber
but that pc is in another building
too ez if thats in the same building
ddos
subtle glen
run 10g to another building
chrome hound
nope
subtle glen
hehe
chrome hound
laptops suck ass
subtle glen
@chrome hound can't your isp come to italy and give me some fiber lines?
tell them i am a friend
chrome hound
sure if you want to provide the funding and a backed contrat 😄
subtle glen
i mean, they can buy the fiber from that 3rd party company
you can buy a couple of lines and that's it
chrome hound
rocky badge
Needs more ipv6
chrome hound
NOPE IPv6 is just a FAD and will DIE IN A FIRE!!!!
subtle glen
with some paint editing i can have a 10gbps link too
rocky badge
E N H A N C E LTT is dumb for cap bot
In using both Cloudflare and CloudFailFront
XD
chrome hound
bla bla bla
rocky badge
no u
subtle glen
uuuu
chrome hound
first thing I do is disable IPvloser on every server I have
chrome hound
that is an awesome site blo
rocky badge
chrome hound
how on, let me find my give a dam gif
I am sure I will be forced to adopt ipv6, but until then, t doesn't exist for me 😛
rocky badge
Lol
chrome hound
denial is the first step to laziness
subtle glen
lol
subtle glen
do they specify the connection you need to work from home xD?
chrome hound
I am not sure I understand what your asking
subtle glen
i mean, if you work from home you need to send and reiceve files.. maybe make some video calls and conferences
i know, it's a dumb question
nvm then
inner hound
pseudo blade
Giving consumers a /48 is utterly wasteful.
/112's effectively infinite for a household, No-one who isn't a fortune 500 honestly needs more than a /96.
clear igloo
Except for the fact that no Android phone supports proper address assignment so you need at least a /64 for those alone
There are also many good reasons to assign a /64 at minimum
pseudo blade
SLAAC?
clear igloo
Android doesn't support DHCPv6
pseudo blade
So stateless only.
clear igloo
Correct
pseudo blade
Eh, still feels like something that should be amended, lest we waste ourselves into another ipv4.
I hear some ISPs even hand out /32's in the ipv6 addressing range.
SLAAC always felt like a solution looking for a problem to me.
clear igloo
I can see assigning a /60 or even a /56 to homes but a /48 or /32 is a bit wasteful imo
But only if they ask for something over a /64
pseudo blade
/56 is an absurd amount. 72 bits?
vagrant heath
fresh copper
macOS does not support DHCPv6 either
I think /64 is fine as the default for houses
Maybe have /60 or so as the max if someone uses their own router and does prefix delegation
clear igloo
Yah
fresh copper
I have my ERX grab a /60 from Shaw
clear igloo
ATT needs to do that for all of their routers/modems/etc but in order to get over a /64 I need to get a different model router from them or put multiple firewall interfaces and get a /64 per interface, it's stupid
fresh copper
Wow
clear igloo
Their older routers they gave out support it but not the BGW-210 =/
fresh copper
I just put my modem in bridge mode and have my ERX behind it handle everything
clear igloo
Yah, they don't have true bridge mode so I put it in "passthrough" mode and that's the best I can get
fresh copper
My ISP got rid of true bridge mode a while back as well
The “IP Passthrough” mode they have now is good enough. It manages to send over gre packets though so I’m happy
chrome hound
ah you poors that have to deal with bridge/passthrough
fresh copper
I love how expensive and annoying my home internet is when all my servers have cheep for free internet that is way faster
subtle glen
recommendations for 2 ubiquiti AP's to cover a house?
unkempt ferry
AC lites are good
subtle glen
we were considering the UAP AC Lite or the UAP AC LR
unkempt ferry
They are very similar
fresh copper
For an average house I would use the Lite. I don’t think the LR is really any better. I have never seen it actually get better range in the real world
I would only use an LR for something like a flat that is just a bit too big for a single Lite. I think they are not very useful for a multi-node install
sleek copper
steady zephyr
Anyone know a good free vpn
tulip pecan
Opera
unkempt ferry
Depends on what you will use it for. To Bypass firewalls, try SSTP like Hotspot Shield. Otherwise, ProtonVPN is pretty good.
subtle glen
Thanks @fresh copper @unkempt ferry
fresh copper
You’re welcome
toxic quartz
@ancient vigil which DC you are running you're server?
@ancient vigil looks familiar
Yeah but there are not a ton in the Netherlands that use white racks
Serverius?
Rital is the manufactur of the rack
I know
I thought you had a server in a DC
Where?
Nice servers
Where do you work?
Ahh
I work at Serverius
You know them?
Nice, DC1 or DC2?
Yes
A German bell
fresh copper
You work at Serverius? That’s cool. I think I know some people that colo there
toxic quartz
Sorry, you are right
fresh copper
One of my VPSs is hosted there I think
toxic quartz
Ok, nice
You going to visit Serverius?
Do you know which one?
@fresh copper we don't offer vps, but some clients offer them
I can't remember where nikhef is stored in our DC
Only thing i know is they have some in Amsterdam
fresh copper
@toxic quartz that’s what I meant, I think one of my VPS is hosted by a client
My own colo is in Fremont 2 so kind of the other side of the world
toxic quartz
They have dwdm
Nikhef
BTW if you guys have any questions about datacenter feel free to ask
:)
hallow nimbus
Can i has free server ?
toxic quartz
@hallow nimbus sorry we don't offer free stuff ;)
hallow nimbus
Shiet
toxic quartz
Yes
hallow nimbus
I could use one of those fiber lines 👀
hallow nimbus
😂
toxic quartz
Haha
Hp
Interesting
We don't see a lot of hp
80% of the clients run on supermicro
I like supermicro
Only problem is ordering parts
Takes like forever
Ha, the beaat
Beast
Personally I have one server
fresh copper
Oh by the way, a friend is running unmetered.exchange so if you’re coloed in Vancouver, Burnaby, or Coquitlam and have an AS make sure to join.
toxic quartz
One supermicro
Not existing at all
Want to use it too backup my NAS to the dc
Busy figuring out how
Nice
If you are interested in colo
Just send me a message haha
:p
subtle glen
if you have too many servers send them to me
fresh copper
I have only one server :(
subtle glen
for old stuff you mean quad xeon servers that are not fast enough for that kind of job? xD
oh
any 2U server is fine
mmm
but if one of those servers break, you have to throw everything away right? cause the MB has the shape to fit in the custom case
(in case the motherboard is the broken part)
fresh copper
I love all the pretty DC pictures. I should find the picture of my janky server
subtle glen
:/
fresh copper
subtle glen
but if you find the same motherboard model...
at least you have some 2U servers @fresh copper
fresh copper
Not mine
I only have the Xserve and the switch on top
The rest are owned by my rackmate
subtle glen
cause i mean, throwing away a perfect functioning chassis seems a waste
toxic quartz
subtle glen
wow.
toxic quartz
Whelp
fresh copper
And I thought my rackmate was bad at cabling. That’s a mess
fresh copper
I can’t get these pings correct lol
toxic quartz
Yes
toxic quartz
I know
subtle glen
who does
subtle glen
where do i sign up to play with servers
fresh copper
Fremont 2 is by no means an efficient dc lol
toxic quartz
Nice duck
fresh copper
Some racks just have a single bitcoin miner and a raspberry pi
subtle glen
lol
rocky badge
rents 8 Tesla P100s from GCP for 5 days 
subtle glen
the power company here said that with all those miners they reached the power consumption they planned on reaching in 2020
what about a blade server 👀
is there any nearby
toxic quartz
The newer ones
Don't use that much power
Microcloud is very popular right now
12 blades in a 2U server
subtle glen
what?
subtle glen
how small are they
hallow nimbus
😂
toxic quartz
subtle glen
i was still at the 4U models
hallow nimbus
😂
toxic quartz
Last one I installed cost around 20.000 Euro
Still cheaper then dell
That shit is expensive
hallow nimbus
😂
subtle glen
do you work for a hosting company @ancient vigil
hallow nimbus
Yes he does @subtle glen
toxic quartz
We do more than colocation
subtle glen
@hallow nimbus we can ask him for a machine for our mc server xD
hallow nimbus
@subtle glen I allready have a server for my mc servers 😂
subtle glen
how much bandwith you have in those places
@hallow nimbus ok then, blade servers just for me
toxic quartz
Don't know for sure what that does
subtle glen
you need a good ol 20/10
hallow nimbus
subtle glen
ghhahahaha
tomorrow i'll call to see when they will install my fucking ftth into my home
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@hallow nimbus https://linusdrop.tips/ya94pdU.png
toxic quartz
Many I can show a graph of our total traffic tommorow
subtle glen
lol
hallow nimbus
Oh gosh
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Stackdriver + Cloudflare WHEN
subtle glen
i'm actually curious at the infrastructure they have for those kind of networks
hallow nimbus
Look at the RX @rocky badge
toxic quartz
I should go now
toxic quartz
Get some sleep
subtle glen
but like, you have a pipe coming from the ground with a fiber cable and then you just have those routers?
hallow nimbus
1.2TB lol
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all in a span of 3 days
subtle glen
like an exchange point?
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Mine's on Google Cloud Platform Storage Buckets
subtle glen
can't even bridge my modem and those people have private exchange points, border routers, blade servers etc
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@hallow nimbus show your Cloudflare requests Xd
hallow nimbus
ERM
fresh copper
I run EVIX (an IXP).
I’m AS202313 so you know, I’m open to peering lol. I’ve got a /48 and /44
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hallow nimbus
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SuCC
fresh copper
Here's my network diagram
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edge-o6rgq9j3.ryois.me CNAMe to this
fresh copper
Still incomplete
hallow nimbus
Nein
toxic quartz
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you'd get cross user CNAME banned anyways
Cloudflare won't let any other domain that isn't owned by my Cloudflare account to cname to anything ryois.me and linusdrop.tips
subtle glen
that's outgoing/incoming traffic @toxic quartz ?
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d3dck69x5lp8ei.cloudfront.net CloudFailFront
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your name makes sense now @fresh copper https://linusdrop.tips/grp52cf.png
toxic quartz
Yes
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@hallow nimbus lmfao
subtle glen
he said that a long time ago xD
fresh copper
I always have my ASN in my names
hallow nimbus
😂
fresh copper
Got to grab up those peers!
fresh copper
I'm working on getting a second one too, for a special project
toxic quartz
I see your name @ancient vigil
hallow nimbus
Going to bed bai
fresh copper
I wish I was on SpeedIX, I know some people on it
toxic quartz
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>not using bgp.he.net for info
fresh copper
fresh copper
?
toxic quartz
Haha
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one peer
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lel
fresh copper
Oh yea
toxic quartz
But nice speaking with you all
fresh copper
I forgot that I broke something and never fixed it
toxic quartz
Goodnight
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fresh copper
I always love speaking about BGP, Colos, and other server, networking stuff. Goodnight!
@ancient vigil Yes, I have a /48 and a /44. I'm too cheep for the expencive IPv4
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one guy in r/homelab is IPv6 only lmao
on his computer it's
IPv4: No network access IPv6: Internet
he has to use a NAT64 to access Discord 
since Discord is IPv4 only
fresh copper
I might get an Amateur Radio license at some point so that I can get some of that sweet 44net space.
Technically, I could announce the EVIX space
But that is not a very good idea
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Lol
fresh copper
We were allocated it directly from ARIN and ARIN allows IXPs to announce their space if they want but most don't because of some weird thing with Cloudflare at one point
Ok, fixed
My peers should show up on bgp.he.net tomorrow
plush peak
ok so i need some help
trying to plan out needed hardware for a upcoming project
and networking wise
we have 7 rooms 6 rooms that need 4 eithernet ports and 1 room that needs 2
im trying to figure out what kind of hardware i would need to push the same amount of speed across all connected ports
and we have some central servers so im not sure how this would work
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30 ports going to rooms?
plush peak
im guessing i need a 32 port router?
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and how experienced with networking would you say you are?
you'd need a switch as well
plush peak
im a dumb newbie i would say
like i understand how to set things up once i know whats required hardware wise
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I'd recommend UniFi switches with a USG
plush peak
isnt unifi the stuff done by ubiquiti?
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yes
that has no WiFi however
So you'd need APs if you need WiFi
unless you already have a solution for that
plush peak
yeah 4 ports in each room 1 is dedicated to a access point
tho im trying to see all possible options
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You'd want a PoE switch as well, or PoE injectors
plush peak
well the issue im heading into now is finding a router xD
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the USG is a router, there's lots to choose from and it can be hard but if you're going full UniFi, the USG is nice
plush peak
that looks nice its a good choice if our line ends up being Gbit but if its 10gbit 3 Gbit ports wont be enough XD
plush peak
well budget is 10k ish for all the parts so cables being like 500$ (this is overkill just so we have a ton of excess just in case) and also the switch i just realized is gigabit we need internal 10gbit since people need to be able to grab big files without waiting ages
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yea...so ok one sec
plush peak
blob about to go crazy?
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10 Gigabit over Ethernet or fiber to the walls?
and 28 10 Gigabit clients, since APs would be Gigabit?
plush peak
well it wont be 28 constant 10gbit loads but yeah all 28 i would prefer having the ability to pull and push stuff to/from the local servers at those speeds
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ok, one sec. let's go over to Netgear Xd
do you mind if it's 24, 10 Gigabit Ethernet and 4x SFP+?
plush peak
i mean i dont mind
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and I'm gonna give in Amazon links for simplicity
can you follow guides to setup an ER?
it's very simple
plush peak
i mean if theres good documentation i can figure it out if theres no documentation i will also figure it out somehow using google
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yea
I didn't have any issues setting mine up
now patch panel and cables
I'm gonna assume you can get Cat6 from somewhere in bulk and crimp yourself
so you'd need 24 patch from the patch panel and switch, which will come from the bulk
you'd need some fiber from the switch and the router
and transceivers
plush peak
yeah its pretty simple worst case scenario i can buy a couple boxes of cat6 from amazon
can you link me to transceivers?
plush peak
lul that url XD
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😄
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bingo
plush peak
tbh this ended up cheaper than expected XD
plush peak
the wireless APs? no just that they arent a priority
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ok
plush peak
was thinking of doing a simple mesh network with ubiquiti
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got 10 Gig nics for the PCs?
you'll need a PoE switch to power them
two 10GbE, 28 GbE PoE
with 2x SFP+ uplinks
plush peak
oh yeah forgot they can be run purely via eithernet
i mean looking at the buildings size 3-4 APs should cover every part of the place
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yea
plush peak
so we only need 4 powered lines
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then you can remove that PoE switch and get a cheaper, less ports version
plush peak
uhh any POE switches you would suggest with less than 12 ports?
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UniFI
gritty owl
^
..or you can be the weird one like me and get an edgeswitch and a edgerouter 4 to run UniFi APs. lol
The UniFi lineup is quite great though.
cedar igloo
i have a powerline adapter plugged directly into the wall, and it is giving me less than half the speed than my inbuilt wifi on my motherboard. What can i do to fix this or is it normal?
unkempt ferry
Something is interfering with the powerline signals. Usually there isn't much you can do this. Also, make sure the powerline adapters aren't plugged into a surge protector or UPS.
toxic quartz
Nice @ancient vigil
dire hearth
Does anyone here have Mikrotik devices ?
I have a problem
?
If that is an emoji I can't see it
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lean pollen
You are on phones
Its just discord that is weird
Discord uses Twitter emojis I think
hallow nimbus
👀
lean pollen
but twitter have that emoji
hallow nimbus
Or google emoji's
hallow nimbus
Oh
lean pollen
Thats from twitter
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balls of goo are the best
clear igloo
blobs of goo are best
hallow nimbus
👀
plucky marlin
I'm having some fun with Proxmox and pfsense...
I've got it seemingly working but everything seems slower than it should be. I have run Google's speedtest and Ookla's speedtest and both will run fine for ping and download but show 0.00mbps for upload and then show a test error.
I can only assume it's something to do with the networking options on Proxmox but I have no idea what I need to change. I'll also note that the LAN interface on pfSense is the same as the management interface on Proxmox - ie. only WAN is a separate NIC.
subtle glen
do i have to worry if my network traffic starts to increase?
even things that usually uses very low bandwidth started to show up on the bandwidth graph
plucky marlin
Depends on if you know it should be increasing or if you know it shouldn't be.
subtle glen
i think it's time for a restart
plucky marlin
In response to my issues stated above about Proxmox and pfSense, I fixed it with the "disable hardware checksum offload" fix. The GUI didn't seem "sluggish" as was described wherever I found that fix so I didn't change it. But with everything else feeling sluggish I figured there was an issue. Disabling that checksum thing fixed it. Everything straight back to how it should be.
little schooner
Does anyone know what size of DIN rail is compatible with a Mikrotik PowerBox Pro device?
I am having trouble figuring out how to mount this thing. The bracket seems too small
fresh copper
@plucky marlin I’ve seen that a lot! I originally found the fix from a Vultr post about using pfsense on Vultr. It appears that I needs to be done any time pfsense is virtualized. Some weird issue with how nics are virtualized and how pfsense interprets them. I think that using a virtio interface may help somewhat
plucky marlin
@fresh copper Yeah, it's set as VirtIO which was also recommended in the same place I found the fix. I find it amusing that pfSense sees the virtualised NICs as 10Gb when the fastest thing on the network is 1Gb and my internet speed is about 70Mb....
fresh copper
That’s interesting, I have not used pfsense for a while, I assumed that the max speed of a virtio interface was as fast as the VM could push the data
plucky marlin
@fresh copper Yeah, I imagine the computer would struggle with two full duplex 10Gb ports but that's what shows up with VirtIO selected. Both ports are Intel gigabit NICs in actuality.
So, uh... Since that project went well and is currently working, the next project is a little more optimistic...
I've got a computer that I run as my server which is basically just my data store. It's currently connected to my network via a single gigabit port but it has a second - I'd love to double the bandwidth for the server so that I can get faster network transfer speeds. Both ports on the server are Intel gigabit (though different chipsets).
The first issue comes in when I want to connect my main PC in that it only has one port. But, I have a spare Intel gigabit NIC that I can install. The one on my main PC is a Killer NIC....
The second issue is that I have no idea what configuring needs done!
Am I best to just give up and run away now or is there a hope that it'll work?
fresh copper
It’s definitely possible. What you need is a managed switch. With that, you can connect both ports to the switch and configure something called LACP which allows you to aggregate the speed of multiple ports of the same link speed. I have 4 port LACP on my own server
plucky marlin
Should have specified that I have a switch capable of LACP. I've configured ports 1-2 in group 1 for my server and 3-4 in group 2 for my main PC.
I think I've just finished configuring the server correctly but need to install the second NIC in my main PC and get to town with the mismatched NIC teaming......
And off to a good start... The Intel NIC I have isn't supported by the Intel drivers.
hallow nimbus
gr8
plucky marlin
Whoo! I feel like a small child... Server NIC teaming is working - 1Gb on my laptop copying at 113MB/s and the same on my main PC at the same time. 1.9Gb/s usage showing on server.
So uh... Anyone got any idea how to get my main PC configured?
Killer onboard and "Intel Gigabit CT Desktop Adapter" is the second NIC.
Can't find any drivers from Intel that work, even the full (482MB) download which specified my adapter doesn't work.
nimble coyote
are you running windows server?
plucky marlin
Nope.
nimble coyote
or linux?
plucky marlin
Nope. Windows 10 Pro - which I know brings many complications but I'm hopeful that it'll work.
gritty owl
Darn, windows server has pretty nice SMB multistreaming built in, no required LACP
nimble coyote
Officially windows 10 pro (also running that btw) doesn't support ethernet teaming
gritty owl
I hope they add ethernet teaming to windows eventually
nimble coyote
My board also supports teaming.
plucky marlin
Yeah - if I could use a server OS as my desktop, I would. But many things prevent me from doing that.
nimble coyote
like cost
plucky marlin
Well, that's one. Haha!
gritty owl
Yeah, I just have windows server because I get them free due to college
nimble coyote
noice
gritty owl
then I bugged my friends to give me keys as well since they aren't going to use them
plucky marlin
I don't suppose Windows 10 Enterprise "desktop/workstation" is a thing, is it? That supports teaming, of course.
nimble coyote
although, windows 10 pro doesn't support storage spaces in raid 5 but you can get it to work...
gritty owl
But yeah, no chance with 10Gb NICs? I got myself some solarflare ones and haven't looked back
plucky marlin
10Gb NICs would be nice, but again, cost... Cheapest I can find an Intel branded one here is about £180 and I'd need two.
nimble coyote
only server from what searching I did. That was about a year and a half ago
plucky marlin
I'd also then need some way of connecting my main PC to the server via that link but also individually to my switch.
nimble coyote
you don't need the intel branded one. but they aren't to bad
chrome hound
have you checked out Ebay? yo ucan get single 10gb port cards
plucky marlin
Well that Asus one is available for £92.
chrome hound
I picked up about 4 melox for 20 bucks each
gritty owl
mellanox ones are quite cheap as well
nimble coyote
he's in uk
chrome hound
ebay has UK listing as well
nimble coyote
true
plucky marlin
You're quite right. £30 for two Mellanox ones.
chrome hound
lots of datacenters bump good hardware to ebay
gritty owl
ah, I don't trust the ones that come from china myself...
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🤔
plucky marlin
OOoh. QSFP Infiniband 40Gb NIC for $45.......
gritty owl
Not to mention it might take 3-4 weeks to get it. lol
chrome hound
lol everything comes from china, one way or another
plucky marlin
Shame that none of my internal hardware can achieve speeds anywhere near that speed. Haha!
gritty owl
True, but some of the NICs I read can be counterfeit used
Well, Infiniband is kind of a headache to deal with when you want a switch.
chrome hound
they have some small 4 port switches out now, microtics I think
setting up my new plex server, I did a bad thing, I am using my desktop to copy files between the two servers... sooo I am stuck at spin disk speeds....
gritty owl
Ah, that sucks
chrome hound
but I am mapping direct to the NetApp so once its move I will be able to reduce some storage
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
udev 12G 0 12G 0% /dev
tmpfs 2.4G 1.6M 2.4G 1% /run
/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv 456G 11G 423G 3% /
tmpfs 12G 0 12G 0% /dev/shm
tmpfs 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock
tmpfs 12G 0 12G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/loop0 87M 87M 0 100% /snap/core/4917
/dev/loop1 90M 90M 0 100% /snap/core/6034
/dev/sda2 976M 211M 699M 24% /boot
10.1.1.20:/datavol 18T 5.3T 13T 30% /mnt/netapp
192.168.1.52:/goss 5.5T 2.3T 3.3T 42% /mnt/gossimg
192.168.1.52:/YouTubeMusic 5.5T 2.3T 3.3T 42% /mnt/youtubemusic
192.168.1.52:/video 5.5T 2.3T 3.3T 42% /mnt/vplex
192.168.1.52:/MusicRip 5.5T 2.3T 3.3T 42% /mnt/music
gritty owl
Needs more TB lol
plucky marlin
Next problem being that everything I can find (except the Asus 10Gbe NIC) is SFP and that seems to cost about £40/m and I need 4-5m....
gritty owl
not sure how much it costs to ship there
plucky marlin
Haha!
gritty owl
I need more
chrome hound
ouch its full capiton!!!
plucky marlin
Haha! Well my 4x4TB RAID 5 got to that point. That's why I upped to 4x8TB.
gritty owl
I have four 8TB drives on the way, so it'll be good
plucky marlin
Speaking of which... Someone just mentioned getting RAID 5 to work on storage spaces with Windows 10. Enlighten me.....
chrome hound
its a bad idea tbh
chrome hound
its much better to do hardware raid 5 than ever mess with the OS doing it
plucky marlin
Is it slower than 2 drives in software RAID 0?
chrome hound
nooooo not SOFTWARE RAID DiAF!!!
gritty owl
Ah, that I'm not sure of. It depends on fast your CPU is too kind of
gritty owl
Should be fine, but I still don't recommend it.
I'd do hardware or NAS OS (freenas, etc)
I didn't know freenas was a thing when I bought my RAID card so i'm stuck with LSI for now. lol
plucky marlin
Yeah, but it's for my local data drive and I need that as fast as possible and without any virtual machines.
chrome hound
so I was on the fence about the network setup change for Ubuntu 18.04, but after playing with it, its not that bad
you really want a dedicated hardware raid card then to get the most speed out of a raid 5 setup
plucky marlin
And I was already locked down to hardware RAID when I upgraded - but my RAID card died and I didn't want to change the way everything worked again so I just replaced it.
And we're on the expensive talk again. Haha.
gritty owl
For me, my main fear is my RAID card battery going out again
chrome hound
hey you want cheep or good, can't get both 😛
gritty owl
But yeah, I like the ability to just plop raid card into any system and the array will just follow it
Currently working on esxi VM setup and passing through my RAID card works great
plucky marlin
Hehe. I know. But I spent so much money on everything else in my computers, I can't justify anymore expense. Hell, if I really wanted speed, I'd just buy a quad-M.2 PCIe adaptor and get four 2TB NVME drives for RAID 0 (no valuable data).
gritty owl
haha, future goals
plucky marlin
I could buy it right now. I just cannot justify it.
Same as upgrading my 980Ti to a 2080Ti. Can't justify it.
chrome hound
sure you can, you needed it
plucky marlin
Hahaha!
Don't tempt me. I got shocked by the current pricing of SSDs two days ago and had the temptation call to me.
gritty owl
the prices are tempting
i'm about to pick up another one to store games on the server
1TB Crucial MX500 for $120 is quite nice. haha
plucky marlin
I replaced my just-died 128GB SSD with a 240GB for £32. 4TB SSDs are still expensive, but it's not like £4k to get 8TB of SSD space anymore. It's way down to about £800.
plucky marlin
What's that and does it suit my needs?
gritty owl
It's software that does what storage spaces does, but better.
But wow, it costs a lot more than I remember
plucky marlin
And only a 21 day trial.
gritty owl
But you can try the windows storage raid 5 if you want. Just see how it does
plucky marlin
Yeah. I mean, if it works and runs as fast as I could expect, I'm happy.
I'm pretty sure I spent days trying to get it working before and gave up.
Couldn't even do it via PowerShell commands if I recall correctly.
gritty owl
Yeah, I've never used it myself so I don't have much idea there sadly
plucky marlin
@nimble coyote Any info on how to get Windows 10 RAID 5 to work?
nimble coyote
I don't remember where it was, it's been two years now.... but it comes down to forcing it to do raid 5 with some trickery if I recall.
I've had to do it only once.
look up microsoft storage spaces
plucky marlin
Registry tweaks or something? Because it was less than two years ago that I was trying and Googling and gave in.
nimble coyote
I don't think I had to tweak anything in registry
plucky marlin
Hmm... I'm remembering something not being able to be used in Storage Spaces for some reason... One of my drives was being a bitch...
nimble coyote
Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Storage Spaces create a storage pool and basically fore it to use raid 5
plucky marlin
Yeah, I'm familiar with the process. The "forcing RAID 5" concerns me though. Should just be a select option.
nimble coyote
I think so?
plucky marlin
Hmm. I'll maybe give it another look. But not tonight - sleep is required as I've got work in the morning.
Thanks for the help.
nimble coyote
no worries
plucky marlin
And since this is the networking thread, I should note that the NIC teaming on my server is awesome. But I'm giving up on my main PC - unless someone else can provide extra info.
Oooh! Just had an idea. Is it possible to virtualise or spoof a NIC in Windows?
nimble coyote
yes but latency.
plucky marlin
Damn it. So either two 1gb lines with increased latency or a single line with minimal latency?
Sounds like I should just stick with the one line.
plucky marlin
Anyone good with Proxmox and pfSense around? My pfSense VM keeps dying and I'm losing internet. Not sure what's causing it but Proxmox seems to be saying something about a hung task and tainted.
daring plover
Does anyone here ever work with windows server 2016, i need to do something for colledge and i cannot get feature installation to work anymore
I always get this
This is really fucking important to me and i cannot find the issue
I never had issues with this in the past and now that i need it the most it breaks
sturdy mirage
try google the code i got some serious help with this error
daring plover
No worthfull info
Nothing works
And if i cannot get this to work i'm fucked for my exam as i can't do anything without it
little schooner
@daring plover just reinstall
Those installs are disposable
And fully update before doing anything with it.
daring plover
Fixed already, apparently it required windows update