#networking | Linus Tech Tips | Page 138

little schooner Oct 13, 2018, 3:59 PM

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I was testing to see if these cards were fake

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I'm checking throughput, vlans, and temperatures during test

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Sustaining

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To uncover if one is fake

rocky badge Oct 13, 2018, 4:00 PM

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Ah

little schooner Oct 13, 2018, 4:00 PM

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The fake ones died out

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If its sustained

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And also dont reach 10gbps

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And give weird errors in intel util

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So far none yet

thick minnow Oct 13, 2018, 4:58 PM

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okay

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so my house has no ethernet ports

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so should i just yolo it and put a ethernet cable around the ceiling / walls

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or integrate it into the walls/

clear igloo Oct 13, 2018, 4:59 PM

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Own or rent the house?

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If you own, definitely integrate the cables into the walls, do it nice
Otherwise, just do the bare minimum to run the cables

thick minnow Oct 13, 2018, 5:16 PM

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own

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mkay thx

fresh copper Oct 13, 2018, 7:58 PM

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I have done some crazy things to get Ethernet around the house. I do own the place but a lot of the walls are really weird and I can’t run any cables though them

gritty owl Oct 13, 2018, 9:11 PM

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Yeah, I ran ethernet in my house inside of the walls. I have to say everytime I go in the attic, it's so easy to get lost at times. lol

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:14 PM

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apparently enterprises split cables together too

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So it's should be fine if I do it too

mint jackal Oct 13, 2018, 9:19 PM

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Even if I owned my place, I couldn't run anything in them. It was already a pain to bring fibre in.

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Old-ish European houses are fun.

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:19 PM

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external cable conduits?

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yeah i know that feeling

mint jackal Oct 13, 2018, 9:21 PM

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Not exactly, but the wires are running through tiny conduits.

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Within thick stone brick walls.

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:21 PM

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don't forget concrete

mint jackal Oct 13, 2018, 9:22 PM

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It was made to run the 3 electricity cable not sheathed together.

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:22 PM

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i tried to sneak cables into pre existing electrical conduits but it was a nightmare and i didn't managed to do it

mint jackal Oct 13, 2018, 9:22 PM

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And this doesn't run with safety inspection anymore.

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:23 PM

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yeah, it's against the code to put low voltage cables with high voltage ones

gritty owl Oct 13, 2018, 9:30 PM

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Yeah,. European houses you'll have a lot of trouble.

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:31 PM

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i'm so jealous about american houses. It's so easy to wire them up

gritty owl Oct 13, 2018, 9:31 PM

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Usually here if the wall needs to be drywalled on a brick / cinderblock / concrete wall, we have to put a fake wall with a small space

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:31 PM

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with a knife you cut a hole in the wall, drop down a cable from the attic and you are ready to go

gritty owl Oct 13, 2018, 9:31 PM

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Yeah, pretty much

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just find the wall in the attic, drill it, then drop the wire in. lol

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and fish it out downstairs

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It's only the outside walls that are nightmares to do because of insulation

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:32 PM

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still easy

gritty owl Oct 13, 2018, 9:32 PM

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Yeah, compared to concrete, definitely. haha

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:33 PM

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here if you don't want any external conduits you have to break concrete with a chisel, patch it up, paint it and maybe you get unlucky that the conduit is broken and concrete leaked inside or you made a turn that is too tight and you have to do everything again

gritty owl Oct 13, 2018, 9:33 PM

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Yeah, that sounds so painful

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and patched concrete might never look the same either

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:34 PM

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i have few cables i cannot pull out even if i try so hard: like pointing the feet to the wall and push myself

gritty owl Oct 13, 2018, 9:34 PM

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haha

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:34 PM

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If you dont level it properly you see the trace

mint jackal Oct 13, 2018, 9:34 PM

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Modern house have wider conduits. But it's hard to retrofit. So I have cables running around.

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:36 PM

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also old (but not that much) buildings were built without expansion possibilities cause at the begin there was no TV/no intercom/no internet etc and when they added all those things this is the result

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gritty owl Oct 13, 2018, 9:36 PM

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Yeah, that would trigger my OCD like crazy. lol

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:37 PM

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How modern buildings are

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everything separated/ empty conduits for future cables

cold peak Oct 13, 2018, 9:38 PM

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These pics are so tiny

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but infrastructures seem solidly built

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:38 PM

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copied from the interwebz

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If i will be living into a condo i want to buy it when they are still building it so that i can tell the workers to put separated conduits in each room for ethernet/TV and some more empty conduits for future stuff

gritty owl Oct 13, 2018, 9:40 PM

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Man, though just imagining have to concrete in conduit into a wall

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seems super hard to keep it still

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:41 PM

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nah, you do it slowly

gritty owl Oct 13, 2018, 9:41 PM

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Ah, I see.

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Yeah, I'm used to only doing floors

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and dumping concrete everywhere. We had to like really strap down the underground conduit

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to keep it from moving

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:41 PM

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you pour some concrete every few meters and they stand still

gritty owl Oct 13, 2018, 9:42 PM

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Well, i mean the walls

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:42 PM

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Then you do the final pour

gritty owl Oct 13, 2018, 9:42 PM

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the floor is pretty easy

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:42 PM

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still the same i guess

gritty owl Oct 13, 2018, 9:42 PM

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Haha, that still seems really brutal to deal with

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:43 PM

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Here they even used pieces of metal screwed onto the wall

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gritty owl Oct 13, 2018, 9:44 PM

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haha, yeah, that really seems brutal to deal with

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Very cool though

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:44 PM

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yeah

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seems like they will mix some different wiring there tho

gritty owl Oct 13, 2018, 9:45 PM

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I kind of wonder how hard datacenters are to make over there now

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:46 PM

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well, there are elevated floors that can be lifted up and there is a space between the real and fake floor

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But usually if they are building a datacenter they know they need to add conduits for wiring

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gritty owl Oct 13, 2018, 9:49 PM

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That's really cool. haha

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:50 PM

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yeah, imagine having to run a new cable. You just lift the panels you need and that's it

gritty owl Oct 13, 2018, 9:53 PM

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Yeah, I'm totally putting a ceiling grid when I get around to building a house. lol

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:53 PM

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lol

mint jackal Oct 13, 2018, 9:55 PM

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Elevated floors aren't necessarily great for a space you're living in, but ceiling is easier. It's just passing from one room to another that can be messy.

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 9:56 PM

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not if you have an electric demolition hammer

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ouch

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rocky badge Oct 13, 2018, 10:08 PM

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https://linusdrop.tips/MiniatureIndelibleHackee

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Finally! IPv6

chrome hound Oct 13, 2018, 10:09 PM

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lol welcome to club of limited connections 😛

short relic Oct 13, 2018, 10:13 PM

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i noticed like 2 weeks ago i was suddenly seeing my IPv6 everywhere

rocky badge Oct 13, 2018, 10:17 PM

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https://linusdrop.tips/DeterminedRapidVixen

slow pivot Oct 13, 2018, 10:22 PM

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Usually the elevated floors in datacenters is for cooling up through the racks

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Most cabling is wired via overhead cable channeling

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 10:23 PM

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mmm yeah, elevated floors are more common in modern offices

slow pivot Oct 13, 2018, 10:24 PM

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I worked many years ago helping to rewire some network cabling in a computer room that had raised floors where the cabling was run in it; it was a fucking pain

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 10:25 PM

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Would you prefer pulling out cables from conduits into walls? i did it today and i was sweating

slow pivot Oct 13, 2018, 10:26 PM

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Proper conduits are not too bad

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 10:26 PM

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heh

slow pivot Oct 13, 2018, 10:26 PM

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I have pulled cables through non-conduit dropped ceilings in offices, that fucking sucks too

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 10:27 PM

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i had to cut the cable in some point cause i couldn't find it's full path (also cause i had not that much time to do it)

slow pivot Oct 13, 2018, 10:27 PM

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Especially going past firewalls

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 10:28 PM

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pretty sure it is easier than conduits into walls

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ofc it is easy if the conduit is 10 cm wide with few cables inside

slow pivot Oct 13, 2018, 10:30 PM

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Most of the pulls in that office were 50 cat5 cables at a time

subtle glen Oct 13, 2018, 10:31 PM

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sometimes it is better to pull them out together, other times it is better to pull 1/3 out so that there is enough space to pull the rest

slow pivot Oct 13, 2018, 10:31 PM

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Indeed

drifting zodiac Oct 14, 2018, 5:52 PM

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I've run networking in home by using the pull away sticky stuff and clasps on the ceiling, even worked on the texture paint junk that's up there and I cba to redo

vestal lotus Oct 14, 2018, 7:45 PM

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Sigh.

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Anyone here know a cheap MU-MIMO router I could get in the future?

little schooner Oct 14, 2018, 7:52 PM

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MU-MIMO routers are not cheap at all

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It'll be a while

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Ebay or used market or craigslist or refurbish from store is best bet now

subtle glen Oct 14, 2018, 9:30 PM

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my network before and after

manic ether Oct 14, 2018, 9:54 PM

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italia, italia, italiaaa

subtle glen Oct 14, 2018, 10:15 PM

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hell yeah

golden bridge Oct 14, 2018, 10:20 PM

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Has net neutrality officially ended or are we still wait in ng for our deaths

fresh copper Oct 14, 2018, 10:35 PM

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It's not dead yet

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It's gotten close quite a number of times though

subtle glen Oct 14, 2018, 10:35 PM

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now they even want to remove memes from eu

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well, not only memes

rocky badge Oct 14, 2018, 10:42 PM

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@fresh copper https://linusdrop.tips/AggravatingVirtualXenotarsosaurus

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That doesn't seem like a fun game I'd want to play for 17 hours

subtle glen Oct 14, 2018, 10:42 PM

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he's coding hard

fresh copper Oct 14, 2018, 10:49 PM

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It basically gets rid of the ability of any website to easily host non-moderated user content. It would effect everything from online forms to mailing list archives to even google search itself, especial google image search. It was decided long ago that if a user requests some user content wether by searching, or entering forms for specific topics, or otherwise, that the legality of the content shown was not the responsibility of the website owner. This happened back when Google images first came out and people were upset that someone could search for something copyrighted and google might show it in the search results. This happened again with YouTube where people were uploading clips from Sponge Bob.

To be clear, this does not mean that any website can host illegal or copyright infringing content. If the copyright owner or proper authorities etc contact the website with things like a DMCA notice they still have to take it down. This just means that they can't be sued before they are given notice. If they are given notice and they still do not take it down, then they can be sued. The EU thing would remove all of this precedent (at least in the EU) and require all sites to either manually moderate everything or implement some form of filter that attempts to determine content that should not be on the site. This filter would have to have a significant amount of false positives because websites would have to be vary careful. Even letting one thing through could potentially leave them open to litigation. Some versions of the proposed rules would allow them to have some small amount get through the filter as long as they do their "reasonable prevention measures".

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Lol, I find it funny that it considers terminal a game

subtle glen Oct 14, 2018, 10:52 PM

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But why. If it has been like this for years, why now they made a law about copyright and stuff for online pictures etc? Aren't there bigger problems to solve instead?

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That's how the internet works. You put something on it and it becomes accessible for everyone rather useful or not

unreal wedge Oct 14, 2018, 10:55 PM

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@rocky badge I've spent that long in a terminal for several days on end, lol.

rocky badge Oct 14, 2018, 10:56 PM

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oof

final epoch Oct 15, 2018, 12:17 AM

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how does ethernet over coaxial work in comparison with powerline?

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My house is prewired with coax but i dont wanna run cat6

unreal wedge Oct 15, 2018, 12:34 AM

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Can't recommend it, and I specifically ran my house with both to deal with that.

crystal forge Oct 15, 2018, 12:44 AM

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What is everyone's experience with AT&T internet?

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Is it better than Comcast

unreal wedge Oct 15, 2018, 1:11 AM

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Hell no.

rocky badge Oct 15, 2018, 1:37 AM

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It actually depends

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Are you in an area where you can get AT&T fiber gigabit?

fresh copper Oct 15, 2018, 1:42 AM

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@final epoch There is a version of Ethernet over Coax but I don't recommend it because it is a very old standard and therefor is very slow. There are a number of other protocols that can go over ethernet though. Most ISPs that provide internet over coax use some form of DOCSIS. I again don't recommend this because it is an enterprise standard and all the equipment is expensive. What I can recommend is MoCA. As long as you go with MoCA 2.0 it can carry gigabit speeds and is actually really good and has significantly less interference than power line even if it was run over the same coax cable as a TV signal. The converter boxes are rather expensive. I see them for $100-$200 here in Canada. The up side is that a number of ISP modems actually support it out of the gate and allow you to use it on whatever coax line you have plugged into it.

short relic Oct 15, 2018, 2:19 AM

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@crystal forge are those your only options? From what I have heard, they are both kindy sucky (customer service wise anyways). Actual performance unfortunately will depend on your area, so may look for some sort of local reviews site? But IMO, its six of one, half dozen of the other

crystal forge Oct 15, 2018, 2:36 AM

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@short relic those are my only options unfortunately

unreal wedge Oct 15, 2018, 4:00 AM

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@rocky badge AT&T publicly hands your data over. Hell no no matter what area it is.

clear igloo Oct 15, 2018, 12:17 PM

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AT&T gonna hate me this month, lol

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2.1TB of steam games to download + ~1TB of WSUS updates to redownload 😄

hallow nimbus Oct 15, 2018, 12:48 PM

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Nice

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My isp kinda hates me

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2TB of movies/Tv shows uploaded last month

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atleast 2TB of download each month XD

glacial glacier Oct 15, 2018, 1:21 PM

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Got a parabolic tplink antenna and a ubiquity bullet m5 titanium. Configured the bullet for acces point and all, cant find network. Infront of antenna

unreal wedge Oct 15, 2018, 1:36 PM

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AT&T put and undisclosed 150GB bandwidth cap on me, so I cancelled their sorry asses.

median vector Oct 15, 2018, 2:38 PM

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heads up for anyone using Devolo™ or similar ethernet over power line adapters, they will cut down your internet speeds in comparison to just connecting to your router.

zenith ridge Oct 15, 2018, 3:33 PM

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Ways to reduce sound in a rack?

I would get sound dampening foam for the sides, but does that actually do much?
and what can you do to the front/back? at least for dust filter or so?

median vector Oct 15, 2018, 3:34 PM

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wrong channel @zenith ridge

hallow nimbus Oct 15, 2018, 3:34 PM

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Place quieter fans in said server's/switches

little schooner Oct 15, 2018, 3:40 PM

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@hallow nimbus I replaced my NVR's standard fans with noctua super small ones

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Wow what a difference in noise

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Before it was basically audio for two rooms down a hallway

subtle glen Oct 15, 2018, 3:53 PM

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i will probably do something similar to my pro curve switch cause its goddamn loud

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@chrome hound i can also use those sfp ports on those switches with that BiDi LC to sfp connector, right?

opal pagoda Oct 15, 2018, 4:13 PM

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i want to make a unraid server. i plan to upgrade it later can i transfer old license to an new server

daring plover Oct 15, 2018, 4:46 PM

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At colledge they threw all cisco switches out and replaced them with 4 times cheaper switches which work better xD

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And the teacher replaced and corrected about 20% of the things cisco forces them to teach for the cisco certificates

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And we no longer have to use their software as it's too broken

little schooner Oct 15, 2018, 5:02 PM

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@daring plover I appreciated the Cisco curriculum when I was studying for CCNA because lots of the stuff they talked about could be instantly carried to other brand switches. The fundamentals and things like configuring stp, multicast,vlans, etc,

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Netacad had easy to understand reading

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10/10 prefer it over book reading

daring plover Oct 15, 2018, 5:03 PM

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CCNA is one of the ones that we can get here after we're done with network management

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And we threw Netacad out

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It's overcomplicated

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And things such as cisco packet tracer will even randomly ping incorrectly in the most basic setups

little schooner Oct 15, 2018, 5:16 PM

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Packet tracer has it bugs but I used it and was able to pass ccna easily

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You just cant count on what the software does but your understanding of networking concepts

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I for snmp I did physical labs

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Netacad is simple but if you have a bad teacher

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It will be complicated

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They literally threw out the best resource out there to pass ccna

chrome hound Oct 15, 2018, 5:30 PM

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@subtle glen I think so, check the switch for optics compatibility, but yea those should work

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but after we talked the other day I don't think you have to use BiDi, you can just use a standard dual LC

subtle glen Oct 15, 2018, 5:32 PM

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well, in case it doesn't fit (even if i split the 2 plugs)...

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i was also thinking about this transceiver https://www.fs.com/de/en/products/11802.html

Cisco GLC-BX-U 1000BASE-BX-U SFP (mini-GBIC) Transceiver | FS.COM

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chrome hound Oct 15, 2018, 5:34 PM

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that was the issue though, I could only find BiDi that were single mod fiber, so your fiber changes

subtle glen Oct 15, 2018, 5:34 PM

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by looking at the plug of that one it seems single mode

chrome hound Oct 15, 2018, 5:35 PM

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well no I mean the type of fiber you have to use, SMF versa MMF

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https://www.fs.com/de/en/products/40446.html

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daring plover Oct 15, 2018, 5:56 PM

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@little schooner Our teacher replaced a lot of things from cisco that were overcomplicated or even kinda wrong

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And he simply threw the netacad out as it was the worst in those regards

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He made his own network and website to replace netacad

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Well, 2 websites even

hallow nimbus Oct 15, 2018, 6:41 PM

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👀

subtle glen Oct 15, 2018, 6:43 PM

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so many types of fiber

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can't i just use the one you sent and that transceiver?

daring plover Oct 15, 2018, 6:54 PM

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@hallow nimbus What is floatplane

hallow nimbus Oct 15, 2018, 6:55 PM

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Floatplane is the early access service like vessel but floatplane is owned and managed by floatplanemedia witch is owned by LTT

subtle glen Oct 15, 2018, 6:55 PM

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you are so spooky

hallow nimbus Oct 15, 2018, 6:56 PM

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Yes i know

subtle glen Oct 15, 2018, 6:56 PM

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i almost broke the monitor for the jumpscare

hallow nimbus Oct 15, 2018, 6:56 PM

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👀

subtle glen Oct 15, 2018, 6:56 PM

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OH SHIT

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stop, you are gonna scare me too much

hallow nimbus Oct 15, 2018, 7:00 PM

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pumpkin

subtle glen Oct 15, 2018, 7:10 PM

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i can't handle this

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 8:53 AM

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hai

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anyone in here? i need help with a project of mine

arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 9:13 AM

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with what

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 9:16 AM

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i have a small media creation group. and each of us work at home. and we have a common storage server. and i need a good way to connect each of our pcs to that server. without hamachi or those shit programs

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we currently use hamachi to connect to each other pcs

zenith ridge Oct 16, 2018, 9:19 AM

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port forward?

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owncloud? or ftp

arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 9:20 AM

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oh, you want to acces other's storage or pc?

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 9:20 AM

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i dont need to acess their pcs. but would be a good extra feature

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they can open some ports

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i can open the ports i need

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we have 3 workstations and 1 laptop. with 2 other servers. one of wich is windows server 2012 r2

arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 9:23 AM

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servers have hamachi asewll?

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 9:23 AM

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yes

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but hamachi is our bottleneck

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3mbs transfer speed

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at max

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we have 250mb down and 120 up

arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 9:24 AM

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you could set up a VPN on your server/or create a dedicated VPN machine where everyone can connect and communicate

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this would be one option

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 9:25 AM

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can you help me with that?

arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 9:26 AM

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with setting up VPN?

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 9:26 AM

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with everything if you could help

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These are my "servers"

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Each have 8gb ram ddr3

arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 9:28 AM

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well i dont have much time tho :/ you can try to play around with it in VM's at first to get idea about that

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oh they are in same network?

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 9:29 AM

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How do I create my hyper v server's?

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My pcs are in the same network. I'm hosting. But the other 2 pcs arent

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And my school laptop

arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 9:30 AM

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oh oke, then yeah VPN will do the trick

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 9:30 AM

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And a role server to access the storage?

arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 9:32 AM

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i think no, since if you connect to the VPN, you can have access to all machines if they are up

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 9:32 AM

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currently im hosting all the storage in my workstation. but im ditching it

arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 9:32 AM

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in that network

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 9:32 AM

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yes

arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 9:33 AM

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ah then yeah, idealy you should make a dedicated storage server and a dedicated access point server aka VPN server

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 9:33 AM

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this is all the disks

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i just need to find a old pc with enought sata ports and use freenas or something

arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 9:34 AM

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yeah, its not nessesarily needed, but strongly recomended

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 9:34 AM

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or maybe a 4tb drive

arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 9:34 AM

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but yeah you should play around with this at first on VM's

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 9:37 AM

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this is our "client" side

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how it looks like

arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 9:39 AM

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the disk's in raid 0 wouldve looked little nicer tbh 😄

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 9:39 AM

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windows will allow to do that?

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my motherboard is too old for that

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im on 775

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my pc is kinda broken

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arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 9:40 AM

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mmh dont know much about older boards

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 9:41 AM

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software raid then

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how many vms will i need for what i want to do?

arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 9:47 AM

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2 is minimum, and all dependant of your resources too

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 9:47 AM

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its a core2duo with 8gb

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t6570

arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 9:50 AM

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uh, yea i wouldnt go over 2 VM's there

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 9:50 AM

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what do i need to get everything working?

arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 9:52 AM

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well a VPN server is really the only thing, when looking at your original issue, rest is just "best practise"

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 9:52 AM

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yeah

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would be great just have the vpn

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is the main problem really

arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 9:54 AM

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or maybe, your router supports a VPN "server" feature

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 9:54 AM

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my router is a piece of shit

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its an isp router

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portuguese routers are cancer

arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 9:55 AM

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heh oke

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 9:56 AM

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this is "advanced"

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arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 9:56 AM

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aighty 😄

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then yea you need to set up a server

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 9:59 AM

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should i reset my windows server? i think that is a bit fucked up

arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 10:00 AM

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uhh, i dunno, if you saw its fked up, then i guess 😄

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 10:00 AM

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this is my router at the moment xD

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global suspension. 30 days 22 hours

arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 10:02 AM

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kek

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 10:02 AM

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rip me

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so. can i dm you and you help me later?

arctic walrus Oct 16, 2018, 10:03 AM

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yeah 😄 hope i have time later on 😂

upbeat urchin Oct 16, 2018, 10:03 AM

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thanks

austere scroll Oct 16, 2018, 4:26 PM

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Anyone ever dabble in port forwarding on a pfsense firewall?

rocky badge Oct 16, 2018, 7:14 PM

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Yee

fresh copper Oct 16, 2018, 9:24 PM

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Anyone ever do L2TP on Linux?

short relic Oct 16, 2018, 10:49 PM

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i get to dive into the world of UDP and TCP ports tonight

buoyant badger Oct 17, 2018, 1:12 AM

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@fresh copper https://linuxexplore.com/how-tos/l2tp-vpn-using-xl2tpd/

Linux Explore

Rahul Panwar

L2TP VPN using xl2tpd

L2TP (Layer 2 Tunneling Protocol) L2TP (Layer 2 Tunneling Protocol) is a tunneling protocol used for VPNs. It uses the UDP port 1701 to communicate. It doesn’t have any encryption, but we can encry…

fresh copper Oct 17, 2018, 1:14 AM

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I did not know you were here too. I am sure you know why I am asking

buoyant badger Oct 17, 2018, 1:15 AM

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Yup lol, to connect me to EVIX.

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I am trevor@jantechcs.com

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also small world isn't it lol

fresh copper Oct 17, 2018, 1:40 AM

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Yea, for some reason all of yours emails end up in my junk folder. Chris, I, and our friend Mike are working on it. We had no idea Cisco had such a lack of layer 2 tunneling protocols

buoyant badger Oct 17, 2018, 1:48 AM

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Neither did I

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until now

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I have been using DMVPN for my own private exchange using 10.90.100.0/24 and 10.90.110.0/24

fresh copper Oct 17, 2018, 1:53 AM

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When we first made EVIX we were using DMVPN but due to lots of issues we had to switch to something more conventional. Zerotier has a lot of the same features as DMVPN but eliminates many issues and it does not require everyone to be on it so that’s what we use for inter-hub links and a small number of our members. Unfortunately there are not a huge number of compatible systems

buoyant badger Oct 17, 2018, 1:53 AM

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what issues did you have with DMVPN?

fresh copper Oct 17, 2018, 2:02 AM

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With VyOS, it will not let bgp packets go over mgre interfaces so we had to make a separate gre interface and and separate IP address for bgp traffic vs the normal traffic. Then other issues came up that made even this not really work.

buoyant badger Oct 17, 2018, 2:04 AM

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oh, damn

fresh copper Oct 17, 2018, 2:05 AM

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We did originally plan for Cisco to be able to join. I guess we did not realize that it can’t always do gretap or OpenVPN

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buoyant badger Oct 17, 2018, 2:06 AM

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oh, and Cisco can do L2TP

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I configured my Cisco router to use a Virtual-PPP interface

fresh copper Oct 17, 2018, 2:07 AM

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Yea, so that’s we are trying to get L2TP to work because it looks like Cisco supports it

buoyant badger Oct 17, 2018, 2:08 AM

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sounds good. Here is the config on my side:

pseudowire-class EVIX
encapsulation l2tpv3
ip local interface GigabitEthernet0/0/0

interface Virtual-PPP1
ip address 206.81.104.27 255.255.255.0
ipv6 address 2602:FED2:FFF:FFFF::21/64
pseudowire 72.52.82.6 1 pw-class EVIX

fresh copper Oct 17, 2018, 2:08 AM

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I’ll relay that over

buoyant badger Oct 17, 2018, 2:09 AM

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alright

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does the server you guys have run ESXi?

dire hearth Oct 17, 2018, 12:35 PM

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My ISP offers me the possibility to get a IP block, should I get one? I mean I am not sure what I can do with it. I can separate my server traffic from other traffic I think.

clear igloo Oct 17, 2018, 12:39 PM

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Like a block of IP addresses or the ability to block incoming traffic by IP?

dire hearth Oct 17, 2018, 1:09 PM

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Block of ip addresses

thick minnow Oct 17, 2018, 1:22 PM

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i want that

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makes things simpler

dire hearth Oct 17, 2018, 1:34 PM

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Yeah, but what can I do with it. I have no idea

little schooner Oct 17, 2018, 2:02 PM

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@dire hearth is it free to get it?

dire hearth Oct 17, 2018, 2:10 PM

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No, but I remember that is at a very low cost

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Under 10 euro

little schooner Oct 17, 2018, 2:28 PM

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If you are not sure what to use it for, just dont get it

fresh copper Oct 17, 2018, 3:25 PM

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I would love if I could get more than 1 IP residentially

zenith ridge Oct 17, 2018, 3:30 PM

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I have the option for 4 IPs at home, but I don't use it

zenith ridge Oct 17, 2018, 4:27 PM

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does a dual AC input PSU from corsair exist? to also allow an UPS to be connected? or would it be fine to only be connected to an UPS?

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 4:28 PM

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not from Corsair. I have my pc connected directly to the ups and it works fine.

zenith ridge Oct 17, 2018, 4:29 PM

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24/7, doesn't hurt the ups?

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 4:29 PM

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There are redundand ATX psu's tho

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they run servers 24/7 off ups'es

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why would it

zenith ridge Oct 17, 2018, 4:29 PM

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hmm, cool

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any recommendations about what brand of ups to take?
I got a corsair psu 850watt

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unraid as OS

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 4:31 PM

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APC is a good brand, just take one that has a higher VA than your power supply Wattage. You can also consider other brands, just search for reviews

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VA and Watts are basically the same

zenith ridge Oct 17, 2018, 4:32 PM

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hmm k

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found APC with 1500 va in my local store for 700€, worth it? overkill buy i could add a second server on that ups and or network gear

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it mentions a 900watt max load btw

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 4:36 PM

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Of course having more power than you need means you can power stuff longer.

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You shouldn't overload an ups but a 900W load compared to its 1500 seems a little weird. Maybe that's normal

hallow nimbus Oct 17, 2018, 4:37 PM

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I need at least a 1000Watt ups XD

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 4:37 PM

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you need 20/10

hallow nimbus Oct 17, 2018, 4:37 PM

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NEIN

zenith ridge Oct 17, 2018, 4:38 PM

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from what i can see it's like that till the va are over 5k, then the watt is the same as va value

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 4:39 PM

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Here in EU with 230V and all that stuff, the VA are the same as Watts. If i remember correctly you have to multiply the VA x 1 to have the number in Watts that is basically the same value

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@hallow nimbus apparently my cheap shitty brand ups cannot handle 1 pc, 2 switches, a nas and 2 routers

hallow nimbus Oct 17, 2018, 4:40 PM

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Wat

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 4:40 PM

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i mean, it is small, what did i expect

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i would need a 1000w one too

hallow nimbus Oct 17, 2018, 4:40 PM

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The 1000 watt is for me pc and screens alone XD

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So i would need 2 1000 watt upsses

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 4:40 PM

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eeee

hallow nimbus Oct 17, 2018, 4:40 PM

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For networking and server

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 4:41 PM

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i got you

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hallow nimbus Oct 17, 2018, 4:41 PM

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PERFECT

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 4:41 PM

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a little noisy but it should do the work

hallow nimbus Oct 17, 2018, 4:41 PM

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Can i dig it in ?

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XD

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And make a vent

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 4:42 PM

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you can throw a match into the fuel tank

hallow nimbus Oct 17, 2018, 4:43 PM

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Lets not

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 4:43 PM

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why, winter is close

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@hallow nimbus since the generator takes few seconds to start, i'd recommend some batteries to keep things up and running while the generator starts

📎 Powercell_UPS_Battery_Room_with_Racks.png

hallow nimbus Oct 17, 2018, 4:46 PM

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I need moar

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 4:46 PM

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🤔

hallow nimbus Oct 17, 2018, 4:47 PM

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aka i need more

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 4:47 PM

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i was thinking for a solution

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📎 ups-room-using-front-terminal-batteries-ea56.png

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this should work

hallow nimbus Oct 17, 2018, 4:48 PM

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I need more

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WAY more

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 4:48 PM

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but like WAY WAY more?

hallow nimbus Oct 17, 2018, 4:48 PM

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It need to be able to keep running for atleast a week

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 4:49 PM

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oh, you didn't specified that

hallow nimbus Oct 17, 2018, 4:49 PM

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Now i did

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😂

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 4:49 PM

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📎 battery-room-on-board-ship.png

hallow nimbus Oct 17, 2018, 4:50 PM

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Thats starting to look like it yes

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 4:50 PM

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you don't pay me enough for this

hallow nimbus Oct 17, 2018, 4:50 PM

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XD

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I dont pay you at all

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 4:50 PM

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true

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so... when will you pay me

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for my advices

hallow nimbus Oct 17, 2018, 4:52 PM

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once you build that shiet

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 5:14 PM

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uuuu

little schooner Oct 17, 2018, 6:24 PM

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one fire and battery room is toast. Bring some bread down there to prepare.

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 6:34 PM

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what's better than bread that taste like acid and cancer smoke

rocky badge Oct 17, 2018, 7:15 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20181017-151327_Chrome.jpg

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It's missing an e

weary kestrel Oct 17, 2018, 7:25 PM

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But it's aws day linusKappa

brittle mural Oct 17, 2018, 7:45 PM

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^

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 7:50 PM

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📎 Capture.JPG

brittle mural Oct 17, 2018, 7:52 PM

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Add pf on that.

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 7:53 PM

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that's 1 if i remember correctly

thick minnow Oct 17, 2018, 8:14 PM

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ur a pf

fresh copper Oct 17, 2018, 8:48 PM

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Yea power factor is annoying. It does depend a lot on how you are billed. Most large buildings and industrial buildings are charged more for having a bad power factor (the don’t actually measure the power factor but they do charge as if the power factor was 1 so it looks like they are using more power than they actually use). Most homes these days are charged on their actual power usage. Computers and servers usually don’t change the power factor that much because of the way that the transformer and rectifier work.

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 8:59 PM

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There are devices that try to adjust that

fresh copper Oct 17, 2018, 9:09 PM

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It does not matter for homes because power companies usually charge by actual power usage these days so power factor does not matter. In places where it does matter they will put large capacitors in parallel to make the power factor closer to 1 (as most of these places have lots of motors so their power would be more inductive on the reactance scale). If they have a varying power factor then they may use super fancy equipment that automatically adjusts.
There are also cheep Chinese devices that supposedly help. They do often have capacitors in them but without analyzing the power factor yourself you may be making it worse or not helping at all. I also already mentioned that it does not really matter for homes these days.

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 9:11 PM

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i've seen a video of a guy testing those chinese things and as i expected they don't work

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but like you said, it's pretty useless for home use anyways

fresh copper Oct 17, 2018, 9:30 PM

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We probably saw the same video

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 9:30 PM

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Great Scott?

fresh copper Oct 17, 2018, 10:01 PM

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He has great videos

subtle glen Oct 17, 2018, 10:24 PM

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yep

sturdy zinc Oct 18, 2018, 2:23 AM

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hello there my new network guru friends 😃

tropic girder Oct 18, 2018, 2:56 AM

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Hey peoplesss, I'm working on a project and either looking for advice or could be a potential job for anyone capable. Basically I'm looking to set up a server that sends tasks to multiple virtual machines to complete. They are different tasks. Basically it is running through a conditional campaign. Any advice and knowledge or resources I should look into are helpful. Thanks! I wasnt sure which thread to put this in so I'm sorry if I picked the wrong one

sturdy zinc Oct 18, 2018, 3:56 AM

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so you are basically wanting to implement an orchestrator.... whats they hypervisor?

fresh copper Oct 18, 2018, 5:36 AM

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@tropic girder Do you have any more specifics? I would love to help but I am not entirely sure what you need.

tropic girder Oct 18, 2018, 12:19 PM

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I'll look into hypervisors, literally building it from the ground up. @fresh copper Basically my company is looking to build a campaign system for direct messaging for social media websites. Specifically Linkedin right now but eventually would like to expand to offer the service for any social media platforms with direct messaging capabilities. From what I understand it would have its own server and the application would be a computer application not web based really. It would simulate itself like a user would by direct messaging users a message then in a couple of days (or what is specified for that campaign) it would go back and see if there was a response, if so it would skip that person and message someone that the system had sent that same message to but didn't respond. Goal is to start a conversation and then notify the user of the account that they need to respond to a message

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We have this service from another company however its half the product we want and each month our servers get slower

uncut locust Oct 18, 2018, 12:20 PM

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I think you pinged the wrong guy my dude 👍

tropic girder Oct 18, 2018, 12:22 PM

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Yes I did sorryyyy

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@sturdy zinc thanks, I'm looking more into hypervisors. That was a term I was looking for

fresh copper Oct 18, 2018, 3:25 PM

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@tropic girder That sounds interesting, I’ll have a look at what would generally work best in that situation

sturdy zinc Oct 18, 2018, 11:03 PM

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@tropic girder I would go through the AWS route, a not very well known but very very flexible product (orchestrator) you could look into is called Stratoscale, maybe give a look into that product?

tropic girder Oct 18, 2018, 11:04 PM

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@sturdy zinc sweet I will! Thank you sooo much!

sturdy zinc Oct 18, 2018, 11:05 PM

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@tropic girder not a problem, if you articulate and leverage your infrastructure with the elastic power of a AWS cluster then growing will not be an issue, you will always be covered, you need more capacity boom, presto more capacity, next months things are slow...no problem, you pay only the resources you use

tropic girder Oct 18, 2018, 11:06 PM

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Oh that would be perfect! That's exactly what we need

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I haven't messed with AWS yet but heard alot about it

rocky badge Oct 18, 2018, 11:14 PM

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AWS is ~~fun~~

half valley Oct 18, 2018, 11:16 PM

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Until it goes down for awhile and part of your school relies on it

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FireDuck

rocky badge Oct 18, 2018, 11:24 PM

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I'm using Google Cloud platform now

short relic Oct 19, 2018, 12:07 AM

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wow. google finally has a second customer

halcyon grove Oct 19, 2018, 12:13 AM

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The first being Google...

sullen patrol Oct 19, 2018, 1:28 AM

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anyone know how to fix the issue of a Windows xp machine not being assigned a IP address by the network?

unreal wedge Oct 19, 2018, 1:52 AM

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Find the Windows Update that disables it. <INSERT "don't use Windows XP" WARNING HERE>

sullen patrol Oct 19, 2018, 2:07 AM

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its a system with 733mb of DDR1... so i dont think i can run anything better on it
if i happened to find 4GB of DDR1 laying around i might install windows 10 on it.... but... untill then is stuck on XP

inner quiver Oct 19, 2018, 2:12 AM

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Have you tried resetting the network stack? (Oh Windows XP ... 🎵 memoriieeees 🎵
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/299357/how-to-reset-tcp-ip-by-using-the-netshell-utility

How to reset TCP/IP by using the NetShell utility

Explains how to use the NetShell utility to restore the TCP/IP utility to its original state after it becomes damaged. Doing this may fix your Internet connectivity problems.

fresh copper Oct 19, 2018, 3:22 AM

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@sullen patrol run Linux /s
But yea, @inner quiver’s solution should work

sullen patrol Oct 19, 2018, 1:51 PM

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tryed it.... its still unable to renew IP address

unreal wedge Oct 19, 2018, 3:00 PM

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Did you look for the update that breaks networking in Windows XP?

sullen patrol Oct 19, 2018, 3:03 PM

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wait WHAT?!??!?!

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@unreal wedge tell me more

unreal wedge Oct 19, 2018, 3:04 PM

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Look for one of the last updates ever applied to it.

sullen patrol Oct 19, 2018, 3:06 PM

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ok if i find a bad update how do i roll back the update? im sorry i dont work with XP machines often

unreal wedge Oct 19, 2018, 3:09 PM

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I'm looking for it, but read this https://www.zdnet.com/article/registry-hack-enables-continued-updates-for-windows-xp/

ZDNet

Registry hack enables continued updates for Windows XP | ZDNet

[UPDATE: Microsoft response] A single registry setting makes Windows Update think your XP system is Windows XP POSReady, which will receive updates for another five years.

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Apparently you can still update Windows XP, even today.

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@sullen patrol Google the broken update if you can find it, though I have no idea where it is anymore.

sullen patrol Oct 19, 2018, 3:13 PM

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k

latent stag Oct 19, 2018, 6:40 PM

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https://gyazo.com/fc80a7b072ad03e5c25e44aa020632e6

Gyazo

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I'm pretty happy with my university

half valley Oct 19, 2018, 7:05 PM

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Ew ads

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rooOldWut

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Yea, my university has symmetrical gigabit too

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otterLove

daring plover Oct 19, 2018, 9:48 PM

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@latent stag Get an adblocker

unkempt ferry Oct 20, 2018, 6:03 PM

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Anyone here able to help with pfSense?

fresh copper Oct 20, 2018, 6:12 PM

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@unkempt ferry I know a bit about pfSense. What’s your issue?

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 7:16 PM

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@fresh copper do you know if using a dedicated switching chip or a very high-clock intel 8700k chip makes a difference when handling network traffic?

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Would the 8700k handle it just as good?

stuck verge Oct 20, 2018, 7:21 PM

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@unkempt ferry I might be able to offer some assistance.

unkempt ferry Oct 20, 2018, 7:23 PM

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@stuck verge @fresh copper Thank you guys for responding, I actually solved my problem but I do have a few question. Right now I have residential Verizon service. The domain I'm using for the DHCP is verizon.net. What is that domain and can I set it to something different? Also, after a pfsense install, are there anything that I need to set to make sure everything is safe? Thanks!

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Bro I don't know this stuff, I'm sorry

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What is the search domain and what does it do?

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Can I set it to anything I want?

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 7:29 PM

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@unkempt ferry search domain is the first thing computer with append to at the end of a DNS lookup. For example, entering web address to server1 will default to server1.verizon.com if you have search domain set to that

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Otherwise it has to start appending other ending domain names, like .com, .net

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It's just a default setting

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That dhcp can provide

unkempt ferry Oct 20, 2018, 7:30 PM

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What difference does it make if I change it?

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 7:30 PM

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Convenience that's it

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Nothing else

unkempt ferry Oct 20, 2018, 7:31 PM

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Because when I tried to set it to something else, the internet stopped working

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 7:31 PM

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The internet should not stop working

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Because of that

unkempt ferry Oct 20, 2018, 7:32 PM

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Ok, I'll try it again in a bit. Also, I'm setting up a OpenVPN and what is the IPv4 Tunnel Network?

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 7:33 PM

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This is from memory, but, it's the subnet of where you want your openvpn clients to reside in

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It should be different from your lan subnet

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The default was like 10.0.8.0/8 I think

unkempt ferry Oct 20, 2018, 7:34 PM

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ok so if i'm using 10.20.0.1 to access pfsense, then it should use that scheme or be something completely different?

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 7:35 PM

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Just not in same subnet. Anything but 10.20.0.0/whatever mask your using

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Otherwise it will have lots of problems routing external traffic to internal network

unkempt ferry Oct 20, 2018, 7:37 PM

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ok, and server mode is set to remote access, so if i'm in a network that blocks stuff, can I use this remote access vpn to bypass the blocks?

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 7:38 PM

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Yes, but I've been at a school where they have DPI and block openvpn as well

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Your mileage will vary

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Make sure to enable option to use the DNS server of your remote access network and not the blocked network's dns server

unkempt ferry Oct 20, 2018, 7:40 PM

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Ok well my school allows hotspot shield to work so do they block openvpn?

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 7:40 PM

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Openvpn should work then if hotspot shield works

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My school is just outright crazy with the protections

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Blocking vpn is disgusting

unkempt ferry Oct 20, 2018, 7:40 PM

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yea it is

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I work for my school's it dept and they don't give a shit about security

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they gave me admin on my computer login and also gave me local admin for all the computers...

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so should I have a IPSec vpn instead?

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Yea when I'm traveling and at school

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 7:44 PM

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I did not know about obfsproxy

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And yes dpi still caught my port changes

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Crazy "security" this school has

unreal wedge Oct 20, 2018, 7:46 PM

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Use a private OpenVPN over port 80. They can't sniff for that.

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 7:47 PM

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Well because my school has wifi as open unencrypted access

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@thick minnow

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Vpn is a must then

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They even say in big letters "THIS NETWORK IS NOT ENCRYPTED USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!"

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On the landing page

rocky badge Oct 20, 2018, 7:49 PM

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xd

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my school blocks all school MAC addresses

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 7:49 PM

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So you cant go after them

rocky badge Oct 20, 2018, 7:49 PM

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plus the NAC has an application on the device so if it's a school owned device you must connect to their secure WiFi

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 7:49 PM

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My school also blocks unknown mac addresses on its switches

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I plugged in a laptop to wall outlet

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Jt started to work and then

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5 seconds later it shut down

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But it was working for brief period

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The scary part

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Hmm

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Possibly

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Even with 802.1w implementation?

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 7:54 PM

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Depends on if portfast edge is enabled or not

fresh copper Oct 20, 2018, 7:55 PM

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@little schooner Dedicated switching is better because of latency. They may preform with similar throughput but the latency will be higher.

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@unkempt ferry that’s the search domain. It does not really matter that much so you can kind of set it to anything.

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 7:59 PM

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edge enables portfast but also enables BPDU guard, and one other thing which I'm completely blanking on right now

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 8:03 PM

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Yeah edge port is the non Cisco version

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 8:04 PM

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Yah, portfast trunk still exists 😛

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XD

unkempt ferry Oct 20, 2018, 8:05 PM

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Ok cool so I got my VPN to work

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 8:05 PM

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I wish they weren't so expensive and didnt need contract for upgrades

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Instead I settle with netgear, dlink and some edgeswitches

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The edgeswitch is fanless so that was a plus for me

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 8:06 PM

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I think only HP doesn't have contracts for code upgrade requirements but most others do as well, not sure on all of them but just from what I've seen

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 8:07 PM

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Meanwhile I cant get multicast to work properly on these other switches

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Someone non-standard about them

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Something*

unkempt ferry Oct 20, 2018, 8:07 PM

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Any recommendations for a switch?I was looking at a WS-C3750G-48TS-S

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 8:08 PM

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Multicast is evil, always

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 8:08 PM

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Like Cisco makes it so dead simple

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One command and its enabled for vlan

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Edgeswitch is a whole crazy set of settings to set

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And then you have to fight with config sanitation

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 8:09 PM

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@unkempt ferry If you're familiar with Cisco IOS commands then it's a nice switch, a bit on the loud side though

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 8:09 PM

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Yes they are loud switches

unkempt ferry Oct 20, 2018, 8:09 PM

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Oh theres no interface.....

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 8:09 PM

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But what if replace with noctua silent fans

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Noise goes away?

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 8:10 PM

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There is an interface, it's pretty poor last I remember

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Like you can view the status of ports but full fledged configuration is not going to happen

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 8:11 PM

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Like this one https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9siaady4b02535

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Fit inside of Cisco switch?

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 8:11 PM

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You might be able to jerry rig something

unkempt ferry Oct 20, 2018, 8:11 PM

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When you say loud switch like how loud

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 8:11 PM

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Like a jet engine

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XD

unkempt ferry Oct 20, 2018, 8:11 PM

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Like I have a dell r710

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 8:12 PM

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Like a Dell2950

unkempt ferry Oct 20, 2018, 8:12 PM

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Like that server is tolerable.

rocky badge Oct 20, 2018, 8:12 PM

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the r710 isn't that loud

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 8:12 PM

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The 600 and 700 series are pretty nice by comparison 😃

rocky badge Oct 20, 2018, 8:12 PM

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But 2950....

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 8:12 PM

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I would say 2x the R620

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 8:12 PM

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700 series are def. quiet

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 8:12 PM

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Maybe a bit more, hard to say for sure

unkempt ferry Oct 20, 2018, 8:13 PM

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So a cisco switch is louder than a r710... great

rocky badge Oct 20, 2018, 8:13 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZJ9il5FJYg
Listen at full volume /s

YouTube

Ryois

13krpm

▶ Play video

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 8:13 PM

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@unkempt ferry you can try to buy new fans for it

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Like I was going to do

unkempt ferry Oct 20, 2018, 8:14 PM

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Yea thats pretty loud

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 8:14 PM

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If it's for home use and you don't need things like OSPF, BGP, etc. then something like a webgui based TP-Link or similar would be ideal

unkempt ferry Oct 20, 2018, 8:14 PM

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Is it always that loud or is that just when it boots

rocky badge Oct 20, 2018, 8:14 PM

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Well that's with chassis open

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While in WinServ it's ~5k but I keep it off all of the time xddd

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 8:15 PM

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@rocky badge omg that is unbearable 😂

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13k fan noise

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@thick minnow my teacher once said that he owned a web server hosting moodle and left it up for 10 years straight uptime

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Only linux can do a thing he said

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 8:16 PM

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moodle, I remember that

rocky badge Oct 20, 2018, 8:17 PM

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moodle reeeeee

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 8:17 PM

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He was big into moodle

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Teaching classes on w2k and configuring it and stuff

rocky badge Oct 20, 2018, 8:18 PM

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@thick minnow you should set your iDRAC un/pw to root calvin

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/s

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HAhaa

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My school's iDRAC says it's the default 😛

little schooner Oct 20, 2018, 8:19 PM

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At one point, my school had public IP set on idrac

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Anyone could visit and take over

rocky badge Oct 20, 2018, 8:20 PM

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true

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OOF

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PCS

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https://www.pcsknox.com/

Managed IT Services & IT Support | Knoxville, Tn | PCS

PCS has provided IT consulting, tech and computer support in the Knoxville area since 1996.

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port 9100 vulnerability

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xddd

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 8:21 PM

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Best way to defend against all attacks is to shutdown the egress ports on all devices and remove power from said device too

rocky badge Oct 20, 2018, 8:21 PM

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haha

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 8:22 PM

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😛

rocky badge Oct 20, 2018, 8:22 PM

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HAHAH

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They blocked iDRAC

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"reason" non-managed

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also their blocked page doesn't work

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📎 20181020_162404.jpg

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 8:24 PM

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If the firewall randomly crashes is it a bug or security enhancement?

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Keep the bad guys guessing as to if it's working or not 😄

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This is true

rocky badge Oct 20, 2018, 8:25 PM

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huh

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Can't bypass a untrusted root in edge?

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 8:26 PM

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Have you tried dealing with their 4G business class dept?

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ATT: "We promise this feature is enabled and works"
next day
Us: "We tested the feature and it does not work and wasn't enabled"
ATT: "Whoops"

rocky badge Oct 20, 2018, 8:27 PM

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I tried

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No

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lul

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they blocked it yup

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can't access it on chrome

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They also blocked vSphere

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Good boye

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So they're actually securing their network a little

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I can't shutdown hosts anymore feelsBadMan

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 8:29 PM

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So now you can't be expelled 😦

rocky badge Oct 20, 2018, 8:29 PM

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XD

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 8:33 PM

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Uh-oh @rocky badge the Google Andministration is after me!

rocky badge Oct 20, 2018, 8:33 PM

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Why

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 8:33 PM

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For it is not me who they think do the bad thing

rocky badge Oct 20, 2018, 8:33 PM

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lol

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 8:34 PM

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and it was spelt "Andministration" so, ya know, 😛

unreal wedge Oct 20, 2018, 8:41 PM

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Baltimore? So Cloudflare is the CIA...

chrome hound Oct 20, 2018, 9:43 PM

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welp had a disc die in my netapp 😦

clear igloo Oct 20, 2018, 9:47 PM

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Dang, do you have a replacement drive ready or do you have to get one?

chrome hound Oct 20, 2018, 9:47 PM

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well I had a spare hot in, but now I have to dig one up

subtle depot Oct 20, 2018, 9:55 PM

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saw this posted in #voice-chat-limited Now I've been wondering this for a while now but with asymmetric data speeds is it possible that the upload speed would bottleneck the download speed or vice-versa since tcp connections send acknowledgements for every packet received? Since ethernet has a MTU of 1500 (ignoring jumbo frames) the maximing amount of bytes you could send per packet is 1434 if you take 14 bytes for ethernet and 20 for IP and 32 more for TCP. A simple ACK packet shows up in wireshark as 66 bytes. That would mean the connection would need a downlink/uplink ratio of 22. The example in the image only has a ratio of about 10. If everything I said is actually reasonable and not flawed then that would mean they could only get a TCP connection download of about 100mbps. Is there anything obvious I'm missing here?

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slow pivot Oct 20, 2018, 9:56 PM

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Yes, not every sent packet is ack'd

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Tcp acks use the in-flight window to ack

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So if you have 10000 bytes to send, and you send 2 packets of 1000 bytes, you might get an ack with a last ack'd byte as 2000

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I forget the max tcp window size but it is at least 32-64k

subtle depot Oct 20, 2018, 9:59 PM

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Alright that explains thanks! I guess I should've just read up more on how TCP works

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

slow pivot Oct 20, 2018, 10:00 PM

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It is a very complex thing if you get into all the different edge cases. Fascinating though 😃

subtle depot Oct 20, 2018, 10:01 PM

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I bet

fresh copper Oct 20, 2018, 10:31 PM

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@subtle depot the 1500 MTU does not include L2 headers, so the 18 bytes for Ethernet II (14 at the start and 4 at the end) is not included. That's why you will sometimes hear MSS or Maximum Segment Size as being higher, 1518 for Ethernet II and a but more for VLAN tagged packets. That's why VLAN tagged packets still get 1500 MTU

subtle depot Oct 20, 2018, 10:40 PM

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Yeah so that 1434 number should be closer to 1460

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got the wrong number for tcp too

📎 unknown.png

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Changes the ratio but not the answer to my question

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Thanks anyway

subtle depot Oct 20, 2018, 10:58 PM

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Is this a good idea 🤔

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fresh copper Oct 21, 2018, 12:53 AM

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@subtle depot It can potentially increase speeds by detecting when it can have a larger MTU than 1500 but adds some overhead

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This parameter controls TCP Packetization-Layer Path MTU Discovery. The following values may be assigned to the file:

0 Disabled

1 Disabled by default, enabled when an ICMP black hole detected

2 Always enabled, use initial MSS of tcp_base_mss.

It means that once enabled, your OS try to find the MTU between your client and your server using Path MTU discovery mechanism. It probably increase the default MTU (1500 on Linux) in your case, allowing bigger packets to be sent.```

unreal wedge Oct 21, 2018, 1:19 AM

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Most end-user modems are 1492-1500MTU.

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Anything large can lead to data loss or corruption.

fresh copper Oct 21, 2018, 2:26 AM

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True

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I love my 9000 MTU that HE gives me though

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Their entire network is 9000 MTU

ashen kernel Oct 21, 2018, 5:09 AM

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Is there an small enterprise modem capable of doing QOS?

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Avaliable in australia for NBN

fresh copper Oct 21, 2018, 5:15 AM

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I think that just about all of them do. If you're looking for something cheep then the EdgeRouter X is nice and very cheep. The unifi security gateway is easier to use but it more expensive. Let me know if you need something more powerful though

unreal wedge Oct 21, 2018, 5:16 AM

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ddwrt exists, and has QOS capabilites. kappA

fresh copper Oct 21, 2018, 5:17 AM

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If you are ok with consumer gear then load up a Linksys WRT3200 or whatever other consumer gear up with ddwrt or OpenWRT

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Like Dooley mentioned

unreal wedge Oct 21, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Depends on the definition of small enterprise modem, to be honest.

fresh copper Oct 21, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Most of the time I find people who want small enterprise stuff would be fine with consumer stuff loaded with alternate firmware.

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 10:54 PM

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If I have 2 Cisco APs(AIR-CAP3602I-A-K9), can I create like a mesh network with them or would it not be a smooth handoff as I move around the house?

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Would I need a Wireless Controller?

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Ok nevermind, they are controller based, so I would need a controller and thats what I want to avoid

clear igloo Oct 21, 2018, 10:57 PM

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You can do standalone mode with the 3600s but smooth handoff needs a controller

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the x800 series like the 2800 and 3800 APs can do local controller mode with one basically running a WLC VM inside the AP and acting as a controller for the rest

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So if you can get a 3800 or something then you could have that be a master controller for the 3600s

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 10:58 PM

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I see....

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So I kinda want to improve my home wifi without really spending too much so pretty much buying used stuff from Ebay. Any recommendations?

rocky badge Oct 21, 2018, 11:00 PM

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You could try UniFi APs and running the controller in a VM

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 11:03 PM

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UniFi AP AC Lite, are those good?

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This one is like 60 bucks on ebay

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Can I run a controller vm for the cisco ones?

rocky badge Oct 21, 2018, 11:04 PM

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The lites are good

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I dunno

clear igloo Oct 21, 2018, 11:04 PM

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Yes but you need a license

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and the cost of a license is going to be about the same as a used 2504 WLC last I checked, which will have a RTU license on it

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 11:06 PM

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Wow is the 3800 series expensive

clear igloo Oct 21, 2018, 11:07 PM

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Yah, they are still in high demand as the next gen AP has only just started rolling out so it will be a couple years longer at least before the used ones flood the market =/

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 11:08 PM

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So since the 3602is are like 12 bucks right now, i might as well get 2 of those and then upgrade in the future when the 3800 are be retired.

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So these the 3602i can be used as standalone so I can mesh them but without a smooth transition?

clear igloo Oct 21, 2018, 11:09 PM

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As far as I'm aware, yes

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If you're not in a huge hurry I can ask tomorrow at work to make sure since I could be wrong and you'll get smooth transitions but I doubt it

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 11:10 PM

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https://software.cisco.com/download/home/284464214/type/280926587/release/8.3.143.0

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is this the virtual wireless controller?

clear igloo Oct 21, 2018, 11:10 PM

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Yep

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 11:10 PM

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Oh yea that would be nice

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I would appreciate that

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Also, what do you do for work?

clear igloo Oct 21, 2018, 11:11 PM

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Network and solution validation

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Haven't dabbled with mesh standalone stuff really so I would rather double check with someone who has 😛

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 11:12 PM

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Ok cool, I just started working for my school's IT so I started to learn about this networking stuff and I'm still a noob at a lot of it

clear igloo Oct 21, 2018, 11:13 PM

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Learning is half the fun, breaking things is the other half imo 😛

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 11:13 PM

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lol

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The funny thing is my school doesn't give a shit about security, all the student accounts have admin for some stupid reason

clear igloo Oct 21, 2018, 11:14 PM

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*looks at @rocky badge *

rocky badge Oct 21, 2018, 11:15 PM

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Putting the client on a VLAN and not being able to access the router is fun

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@clear igloo HaHaa

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 11:16 PM

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That's a rip

clear igloo Oct 21, 2018, 11:16 PM

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RIP is bad, mkay

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We need to use smarter routing protocols

rocky badge Oct 21, 2018, 11:17 PM

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📎 08fcc57a-e007-43fb-a892-8b4ad3834b0d.png

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This is a really easy network to draw

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The office has the MDF and every hallway has IDFs

clear igloo Oct 21, 2018, 11:18 PM

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Did you have a seizure while trying to use paint?

rocky badge Oct 21, 2018, 11:18 PM

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I was on my phone

clear igloo Oct 21, 2018, 11:18 PM

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I want perfect lines!

rocky badge Oct 21, 2018, 11:18 PM

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Nein

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 11:19 PM

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@clear igloo So is there a way to get the virtual controller without a license?

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Also, how much is the license anyways

clear igloo Oct 21, 2018, 11:20 PM

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Depends but I've seen them anywhere from $500 to $1000+

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 11:20 PM

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Holy shit

rocky badge Oct 21, 2018, 11:20 PM

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So I'm assuming you haven't met Cisco pricing

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 11:21 PM

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I'm just a high school student that wants to play around with some aps.

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Come on cisco

clear igloo Oct 21, 2018, 11:21 PM

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😛

rocky badge Oct 21, 2018, 11:21 PM

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As I said, try looking at UniFi

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 11:21 PM

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looks like I have to redirect my domain fuckingyourwallet.net to cisco instead of apple now

clear igloo Oct 21, 2018, 11:21 PM

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I would go with the 3602i APs in mesh and deal with controller stuff later

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 11:22 PM

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Well the UniFi software is free but the UniFI APs are more expensive

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Well the 3602i APs are 12 bucks on ebay

rocky badge Oct 21, 2018, 11:23 PM

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Plus UniFi is eaiser

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 11:23 PM

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Yea that is true

rocky badge Oct 21, 2018, 11:24 PM

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Max n

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N succc

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 11:24 PM

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Now if you go to fuckingyourwallet.net

rocky badge Oct 21, 2018, 11:25 PM

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I mean, Cisco is enterprise/business stuff

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Apple is more consumers and stuff

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Completely different markets as well

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 11:25 PM

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Yea I'll get the UniFi Lites

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Well i guess they both fuck wallets

rocky badge Oct 21, 2018, 11:26 PM

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And you don't need the $70 controller

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Run it in Docker or on a Debian based VM

clear igloo Oct 21, 2018, 11:26 PM

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Run it on baremetal!

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 11:27 PM

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I'm going to assume that the Lite's speeds are way more than enough for YouTube lol

rocky badge Oct 21, 2018, 11:27 PM

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Baremetal succcc

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/s

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🅱irtualize everything

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 11:27 PM

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They aren't actually that expensive

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If you look at their specs

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What should I do for a switch? A UBNT switch as well, thats probably hella expensive

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Bruh I know that, I was joking

rocky badge Oct 21, 2018, 11:29 PM

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Anything gigabit poe

clear igloo Oct 21, 2018, 11:29 PM

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Just to finish off the convo earlier, it looks like you can do seamless with mesh on standalone on the 3602i AP

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 11:29 PM

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@clear igloo Ughhh decisions decisions....

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I'm going to assume UniFi Lites are def able to do mesh

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cisco-WS-C3750G-48PS-S-Series-PoE-48-48-Port-Network-Switch-Free-Shipping/273512914500?epid=1760636832&hash=item3faea3de44:g:B2gAAOSwhh9btOJQ

eBay

Cisco WS-C3750G-48PS-S Series PoE-48 48-Port Network Switch Free S...

Cisco WS-C3750G-48PS-S Series PoE-48 48-Port Network Switch Free Shipping | Computers/Tablets & Networking, Enterprise Networking, Servers, Switches & Hubs | eBay!

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I was looking at this switch

rocky badge Oct 21, 2018, 11:30 PM

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That's called wireless handoff/roaming

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 11:31 PM

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Cisco but 48 PoE ports at 170$

clear igloo Oct 21, 2018, 11:31 PM

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I need to brush up on my wireless stuff again but for now, homework x.x

rocky badge Oct 21, 2018, 11:31 PM

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Lol

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Still in college?

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 11:33 PM

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Are there UniFi Switches that can be used with my UniFi APs and my other server stuff that won't fuck my wallet

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Even the 24 port PoE is 400$!!

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I'm in high school right now earning 17$ a day from working at IT....

rocky badge Oct 21, 2018, 11:35 PM

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You don't have to get UniFi switches, sometimes edgeswitches are cheaper and they have the new UniFi look

unkempt ferry Oct 21, 2018, 11:36 PM

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UniFi vs EdgeSwitch

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Wow the edge swiches are a lot better

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When the EdgeSwitch and UniFi Switch are literally the same thing but a different casing... 🤔

little schooner Oct 22, 2018, 1:11 AM

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No, the edgeswitch is better. Has a decent cli vs the Unifi switch

fresh copper Oct 22, 2018, 1:27 AM

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I much prefer the edgeswitch stuff but if you don’t want to tinker and want something that just works then you would go with the unifi

little schooner Oct 22, 2018, 1:52 AM

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@fresh copper Is it true that edgerouter does not have a proper ip helper-address command functionality?

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They only have dhcp relay-agent

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which is NOT the same

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That is my current gripe about it right now.

fresh copper Oct 22, 2018, 3:01 AM

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@little schooner what exactly do you mean by ip helper-address? Is that some Cisco thing?

little schooner Oct 22, 2018, 3:52 AM

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@fresh copper yeah it is

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I need its functionality on edgerouter on order to let broadcast traffic travel past router port

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But only for specific broadcast traffic.

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And unfortunately edgerouter is limited in this regard

fresh copper Oct 22, 2018, 3:54 AM

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What do you want to do that requires broadcast traffic to travel beyond a single L2 domain?

little schooner Oct 22, 2018, 4:06 AM

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@fresh copper pxeboot

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the server is located on a different lan

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and I need the broadcast dhcp discover packet to traverse to router + the pxeboot server

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dhcp discover will hand the IP address but not the boot-server or boot file

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pxeboot server will provide the rest of the details

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and it will successfully boot

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other solution is to merge lans or have a interface in each vlan I want to pxeboot with

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that would mean a lot of ip addresses to keep track of

fresh copper Oct 22, 2018, 4:25 AM

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That makes sense. I don’t really know how pxe works so I can’t exactly say how to do it. Sometimes if you can’t figure out how to do something in EdgeOS you can look it up for VyOS or Vyatta as the CLIs are almost the same

little schooner Oct 22, 2018, 4:35 AM

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hmm good point

reef valve Oct 22, 2018, 3:04 PM

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Speaking of ubnt

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Look what i just got

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📎 20181022_162150.jpg

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lafrChamp

zenith ridge Oct 22, 2018, 3:09 PM

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How does it actually work without the cloud key? is it the same software (interface) if you use the pc as a key?

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I used ubnt at work, for first time, love it, but getting the key is expensive for home use.

reef valve Oct 22, 2018, 3:14 PM

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You can have a raspberry pi for the controller

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A windows pc

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Literally anywhere

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No reason to buy the key if you're a techie

zenith ridge Oct 22, 2018, 3:16 PM

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Yea I've seen it showing up in the unraid container list even

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So it's just the same as a key?

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just not always online

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possible

reef valve Oct 22, 2018, 3:19 PM

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Imagine the cloud key as a raspberry pi runnning a small linux distro

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that's what the cloud key is

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if you have a RPi it's literally the exact same thing as the cloud key, the only difference being that the key is PoE powered, while you have to power the RPi with a micro usb cable

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i have my controller in a cloud VPS 😄

zenith ridge Oct 22, 2018, 3:20 PM

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cool

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Not to expensive?

reef valve Oct 22, 2018, 3:24 PM

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i'm paying 5$/month for 4 cores, 4 gigs of RAM and unlimited traffic at ~ 200mbps both ways

little schooner Oct 22, 2018, 3:24 PM

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I host my controller in a ubuntu 16 vm. It's already hosting other services so why not serve double duty

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Any low power device can handle it but just make sure to meet the mini requirements

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https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/115009221227-UniFi-Recommended-Minimum-System-Requirements

Ubiquiti Networks Support and Help Center

UniFi - Recommended Minimum System Requirements

Overview

These are the minimum system requirements for the UniFi Controller to run optimally. It is important to read the Release Notes of each UniFi Controller Software version as it comes out, s...

left copper Oct 22, 2018, 4:14 PM

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Well if they're a paying customer you should probably make the required backups and not ask them to. A backup machine would be nice or at least notify them of an upgrade/maintenance window if it will be done within a few hours. (preferably outside of business hours lol)

thick minnow Oct 22, 2018, 6:21 PM

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I've a problem with the network on my pc when i use it as hackintosh. When i've not install drivers and clover with multibeast, internet works. But when i've install drivers with multibeast and i restart my pc, internet doesn't work. If you can help me pls mention me . Thx for help :)

subtle glen Oct 22, 2018, 10:07 PM

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📎 IMG_20181023_000633.jpg

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Poor AP

hallow nimbus Oct 22, 2018, 10:11 PM

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😂

subtle glen Oct 22, 2018, 10:14 PM

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Yknow it's cold outside when the cat sits on the warm router

unkempt ferry Oct 23, 2018, 12:03 AM

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So pfSense or the UBNT Security Gateway?

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Which one is better?

little schooner Oct 23, 2018, 12:48 AM

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pfsense because of customization and package support, UBNT for simplicity

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and ubnt has one of the best gui interfaces to work with it

gritty owl Oct 23, 2018, 1:11 AM

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Agree with the above.

fresh copper Oct 23, 2018, 4:23 AM

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@unkempt ferry I would go with pfSense. The USG is not great for people who want to tinker. It’s meant to be very simple but is somewhat lacking in features

halcyon grove Oct 23, 2018, 4:24 AM

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I use OpnSense... Basically pfSense but opensource

fresh copper Oct 23, 2018, 4:25 AM

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OpenSense is nice unless you want to do IPSec

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IPSec is not very good on OpenSense

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Other than that it is nice and I have used it myself

halcyon grove Oct 23, 2018, 4:25 AM

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Yeah, I don't use IPSec

lone abyss Oct 23, 2018, 6:17 AM

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expect it says that pfSense is opensource

zenith ridge Oct 23, 2018, 6:32 AM

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How good is USG with dual wan?

sturdy mirage Oct 23, 2018, 11:15 AM

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Does anyone Know if I can upgrade the firmware of the management card in my 2950R2? 🤔🤔

subtle glen Oct 23, 2018, 3:57 PM

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📎 IMG_20181023_175524.jpg

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wait, why cant i use both those 4 eth ports and the 4 sfp ports? What's the purpose of that

chrome hound Oct 23, 2018, 4:35 PM

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well its to give you media options, I am guessing they are only 1gig sfp ports right?

subtle glen Oct 23, 2018, 4:36 PM

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yeah

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but why not adding another chip or whatever to control them separately

high warren Oct 23, 2018, 4:50 PM

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@reef valve I just saw your pic from yesterday with the Unifi. Nice toys you got. I love their equipment. They will literally never break.

reef valve Oct 23, 2018, 5:25 PM

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Sure hope so:)

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Flashing a RPI just now to use it as a openvpn server/unifi controller

upbeat veldt Oct 23, 2018, 8:01 PM

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https://ipv6excuses.com/

rocky badge Oct 23, 2018, 8:46 PM

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IPv6 is just a fad
XD

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I don't want to lose the security provided by NAT bitch what

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https://linusdrop.tips/RedParallelGourami
https://linusdrop.tips/UnknownWhisperedArgentinehornedfrog

clear igloo Oct 23, 2018, 8:53 PM

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"My vendor doesn't support it"

rocky badge Oct 23, 2018, 8:53 PM

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IPv6 is a security risk

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xddd

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Our DDOS mitigation platform can't monitor IPv6

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Then that's a shitty DDOS mitigation platform

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We'll deploy IPv6 right after we deploy DNSSEC

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We don't have a lab to test it

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xddd

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I'm done What's IPv6?

fresh copper Oct 23, 2018, 8:58 PM

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I love IPv6

rocky badge Oct 23, 2018, 9:01 PM

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https://linusdrop.tips/DisastrousColorlessGermanspitz

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My transit provider doesn't support IPv6

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transit provider is a link to that form XD

fresh copper Oct 23, 2018, 9:01 PM

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Some people don’t like HE

rocky badge Oct 23, 2018, 9:01 PM

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https://linusdrop.tips/TwinLuxuriousChrysomelid

fresh copper Oct 23, 2018, 9:02 PM

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Also the whole thing where HE and Cogent don’t peer so if you only get one then you miss out some IPv6 routes

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Android actually does not support DHCPv6 but everyone should be using stateless auto configuration for IPv6 anyway

rocky badge Oct 23, 2018, 9:03 PM

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Yeah...

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https://linusdrop.tips/FavoriteUglyXenops

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That's a shitty vendor you have then

fresh copper Oct 23, 2018, 9:04 PM

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Even Cisco supports it

rocky badge Oct 23, 2018, 9:05 PM

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Why rfc6598 when you can IPv6....

clear igloo Oct 23, 2018, 9:05 PM

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Even extreme networks supports it 😛

rocky badge Oct 23, 2018, 9:06 PM

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ewwwwwww

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pls no

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@clear igloo @fresh copper https://linusdrop.tips/InbornNaturalCorydorascatfish

fresh copper Oct 23, 2018, 9:37 PM

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Lol

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My ISP finally got IPv6 a few months ago

half valley Oct 23, 2018, 9:42 PM

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Not all devices support it

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vvPanic1

rocky badge Oct 23, 2018, 9:49 PM

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https://linusdrop.tips/VengefulVengefulLocust

little schooner Oct 23, 2018, 9:50 PM

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I have to leave IPv6 support enabled in order to have WMI working on server 2016

rocky badge Oct 23, 2018, 9:50 PM

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I'm not getting a public IPv6 peepoSaddest

little schooner Oct 23, 2018, 9:50 PM

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If I disable it, no more ps-remoting

rocky badge Oct 23, 2018, 9:50 PM

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WaitWhat

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I can psremote without v6

little schooner Oct 23, 2018, 9:51 PM

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Didnt work for me

rocky badge Oct 23, 2018, 9:51 PM

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Hmm

little schooner Oct 23, 2018, 9:51 PM

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Once I turned it on and added listener on ipv6

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It started to work

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Very weird

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What was more weird is that I connect to them via IPv4 address anyway

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And still error without a listener on ipv6 *

rocky badge Oct 23, 2018, 9:57 PM

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https://linusdrop.tips/ExtraneousLuminousNandine

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hmm

upbeat veldt Oct 23, 2018, 10:30 PM

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I should configure IPv6 on my firewall too, been lazy too 😄

broken cosmos Oct 23, 2018, 11:14 PM

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Linus should do a video on downloading big games via Mobile data network. GWomoGabSmile
Like with this bundle maybe Yay

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little schooner Oct 23, 2018, 11:49 PM

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I dont think edgerouter supports firewall filtering on interfaces

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does it?

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There is no need to add it unless you really are accessing ipv6 addresses out on the internet

pseudo dove Oct 23, 2018, 11:50 PM

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UBNT stuff is <#

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❤

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We run a lot of Edgerouter/UniFi stuff with our customers.

half valley Oct 23, 2018, 11:51 PM

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@broken cosmos so like a rant video in a way how different providers have different high speed data caps?

little schooner Oct 24, 2018, 12:53 AM

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So, it is possible to do it though?

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Also, you can't filter by DNS names in edgerouter... something that other routers are capable of doing

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why not : (

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That would of made so many things much easier to block

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instead of having blacklists, just use a whitelisted dynamic dns name

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to allow in and auto block the rest

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the edgerouter struggle

fresh copper Oct 24, 2018, 1:21 AM

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@little schooner The Edgerouter does support firewall on whatever interface you want and can do a lot of quite complicated rules. It's true that id does not support the kind of DNS thing that you want by default but the specific thing that you want is possible via a script. If you go in the cli and type sudo su you get what is very close to a normal linux cli so you could write a script and set it to run periodically.

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It's not optimal though

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That's why I only use my ERX for my main wan and use a virtualized router for all of my internal routing

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One of my projects is mounting a network share on an ERX and then using it to add some virtual memory so that it can handle the full IPv6 tables. It's a bad idea but will be fun to try

broken cosmos Oct 24, 2018, 5:06 AM

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@half valley Yea something like that could work GWomoGabSmile

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I guess

lethal flax Oct 24, 2018, 5:04 PM

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Guys my brand new router is not responding

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I setted it up and then i wanted to add some wifi extenders to have full coverage of 5ghz signal (tp link wifi extender+) i setted it up and then suddenly router stopped sharing both 2.4 and 5ghz wifi

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The power light was blinking

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We are talking about linksys wrt 1900ac

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I cheked the ethernet cable to the router and it was giving signal i tried to unplug it and wait and nothing happened

lethal flax Oct 24, 2018, 5:27 PM

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No @long arrow

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I tried that too

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It looks like it's stuck in boot up mode

lethal flax Oct 24, 2018, 6:33 PM

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Ok

subtle glen Oct 24, 2018, 7:45 PM

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What a tiny rack

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sudden pilot Oct 24, 2018, 7:46 PM

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lol weird

subtle glen Oct 24, 2018, 7:46 PM

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lol that is really small

fluid sigil Oct 24, 2018, 7:48 PM

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what is the range difference with 2.4 ghz and 5 ghz from the uap ac hd and the LR

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?

subtle glen Oct 24, 2018, 7:51 PM

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on the forum they say that the AC HD is more about high density situations. not coverage

fluid sigil Oct 24, 2018, 7:52 PM

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i know that but how many hds will i need to cover 3000sqft vs how many LRs i need

subtle glen Oct 24, 2018, 7:56 PM

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The UAP-LR is around 120m of radius btw

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i know the range isn't the same as the advertisement. It's like when they advertise a "theoredical speed of.."

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i'm just reading the specs

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why not ubiquiti stuff?

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so you would go cisco or any other brand?

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whats the connection speed?

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lol

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test it with those super fast 100gbps machines

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uuuu

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LOL

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that speed test screen is running in 8k

reef valve Oct 24, 2018, 8:08 PM

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Guys

hallow nimbus Oct 24, 2018, 8:08 PM

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Woman

subtle glen Oct 24, 2018, 8:08 PM

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did you just assume my gender

reef valve Oct 24, 2018, 8:08 PM

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I had an issue with the database on the unifi controller so i fixed it temporarily and messaged ubiquiti about it

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I just wanted to share my experience with the "technician"

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cause it's fucking hilarious

subtle glen Oct 24, 2018, 8:09 PM

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listen to him @hallow nimbus

reef valve Oct 24, 2018, 8:09 PM

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Yeah

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ofc

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The issue i'm having is i couldn't export settings

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So i did the mongodb fix thingy

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and i couldnt restart the service as /usr/lib/unifi/data/db was owned by root

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for some reason

hallow nimbus Oct 24, 2018, 8:10 PM

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👀

reef valve Oct 24, 2018, 8:10 PM

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I changed permissions to unifi and it ran

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but the guy has no clue what i'm talking about

hallow nimbus Oct 24, 2018, 8:11 PM

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NO caps ayyylias

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XD

subtle glen Oct 24, 2018, 8:11 PM

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ohhh so you are a junuiper boi

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thought you were a D'link dude

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xD

reef valve Oct 24, 2018, 8:11 PM

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who is a d'link dude

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are you kidding me

subtle glen Oct 24, 2018, 8:12 PM

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@hallow nimbus is

reef valve Oct 24, 2018, 8:12 PM

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have you actually met anyone in you're life that's a "d'link dude"

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whoa

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that's a whole new level of being hipster

hallow nimbus Oct 24, 2018, 8:12 PM

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👀

reef valve Oct 24, 2018, 8:12 PM

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it's like pinging a website with powershell

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that's like

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out of this universe

hallow nimbus Oct 24, 2018, 8:12 PM

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I dont use d link crap lol

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I use netgear

reef valve Oct 24, 2018, 8:12 PM

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YOU SEE

subtle glen Oct 24, 2018, 8:12 PM

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aww you do

hallow nimbus Oct 24, 2018, 8:12 PM

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Xd

reef valve Oct 24, 2018, 8:13 PM

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so ubiquiti guy is still gone

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still hasn't replied

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wolololol

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wow no caps huh

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feelsnocapsman

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oi

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someone translate this please

subtle glen Oct 24, 2018, 8:14 PM

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hes gone

reef valve Oct 24, 2018, 8:14 PM

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owner and group both are unifi means user

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what

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what

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m e a n s u s e r

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w h a t

rocky badge Oct 24, 2018, 8:15 PM

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My ISP didn't know what Ubiquiti networks was, well at least network support 😄

reef valve Oct 24, 2018, 8:15 PM

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nah man i disagree

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The AP coverage i got from my setup is out of this world

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Meh

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Haven't had an issue so far

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The issue i have right now is probably a consequence of me running everything as sudo su

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why wouldn't i su

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but you can sudo su

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subtle glen Oct 24, 2018, 8:18 PM

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i have all kinds of brands

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The Dlink is the Gateway provided by the ISP

reef valve Oct 24, 2018, 8:18 PM

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did he find this on google?

subtle glen Oct 24, 2018, 8:18 PM

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as last resource

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SSG-20

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The one without wireless functionality

hallow nimbus Oct 24, 2018, 8:20 PM

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He prob did @reef valve

subtle glen Oct 24, 2018, 8:20 PM

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i don't remember, i didnt turn it on in months.

reef valve Oct 24, 2018, 8:21 PM

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he probably has

subtle glen Oct 24, 2018, 8:21 PM

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this one?

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reef valve Oct 24, 2018, 8:21 PM

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i don't think he has any linux knowledge

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at all

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guys

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it's official

subtle glen Oct 24, 2018, 8:21 PM

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bigger?

reef valve Oct 24, 2018, 8:21 PM

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he has no fucking clue

subtle glen Oct 24, 2018, 8:21 PM

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reef valve Oct 24, 2018, 8:21 PM

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hallow nimbus Oct 24, 2018, 8:21 PM

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XD

reef valve Oct 24, 2018, 8:21 PM

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omegalul

subtle glen Oct 24, 2018, 8:22 PM

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you are the support center's most feared person. The one that has a super complicated problem they cant solve

hallow nimbus Oct 24, 2018, 8:22 PM

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XD

subtle glen Oct 24, 2018, 8:22 PM

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the roast to support centers

fresh copper Oct 24, 2018, 8:23 PM

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My RIPE ATLAS probe shipped. Also they are sending three even though I only applied for 1