#networking | Linus Tech Tips | Page 135

fallow plover Sep 20, 2018, 7:59 PM

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As all ISPs are amazing companies /s

hardy kestrel Sep 20, 2018, 8:00 PM

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Filipino's with that ISP keeps accessing the settings of the Router (a.k.a 192.168.1.1)

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So that's why the ISP blocked it.

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Anyways, sorry but, Gotta go to school.

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kbye

fallow plover Sep 20, 2018, 8:00 PM

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have fun (:

fresh copper Sep 20, 2018, 10:28 PM

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I wish there were more good ISPs. I know a few good ones but most of the large ones are not so great

hardy kestrel Sep 20, 2018, 10:45 PM

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@fresh copper that is legitimate true, We applied to an ISP that is the most popular in 🇵🇭 but it's terrible, there's a small ISP that is growing because it's better and way more reliable

fresh copper Sep 20, 2018, 10:47 PM

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I find some of the best ISPs are the small ones. Not that it matters you you, but they often are some of the first to support IPv6 and some even let residential customers have BGP sessions.

edgy seal Sep 21, 2018, 1:32 AM

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ok, i'm really confused right now - i'm just trying to setup a simple mailserver using a vps and a domain i bought off of namecheap - how the fuck does dns even work? which one of these buttons do i click to get my server to be accessible via the domain name

fresh copper Sep 21, 2018, 1:39 AM

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Ah, you need an MX record for a mail server

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Just set the priority to 10 or something, does not really matter if you only have one

edgy seal Sep 21, 2018, 1:44 AM

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Seriously that's complete gibberish to me lol

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like where the hell am I even supposed to go for that

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what the hell is an mx record

chrome hound Sep 21, 2018, 1:58 AM

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@edgy seal you probably want to do some research on how to setup a mail server, MX records are entries in the DNS that tell any one looking to send you mail who is handling your mail. typically you enter in a A record ( for example mail) of the mail server that points to its IP, then the MX record is the A record and a ranking as to which mail server is primary ( example mail.yourdomain.com) you can have as many mail servers as you want in your MX records

edgy seal Sep 21, 2018, 2:02 AM

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yeah, I guess I should. the tutorial i'm following doesn't mention any of that

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WOmkoEYMIg

YouTube

Joshua Tauberer

Mail-in-a-Box Setup Guide (v0.16 - January 2016)

Mail-in-a-Box lets you become your own mail service provider in a few easy steps. It’s sort of like making your own gmail, but one you control from top to bo...

▶ Play video

unreal wedge Sep 21, 2018, 2:30 AM

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MiaB is ok, but slowly becoming more and more insecure.

chrome hound Sep 21, 2018, 2:32 AM

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you should check out https://www.zimbra.com/

Secure and Open Unified Collaboration Platform

admin

The World’s Leading Open Source Email Collaboration Solution - Z...

Over 500 million people rely on Zimbra and enjoy enterprise-class open source email collaboration at the lowest TCO in the industry. Discover the benefits!

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they have a lot of how too's to get you up and running

edgy seal Sep 21, 2018, 2:43 AM

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Cool. Mail-in-a-box seemed kind of outdated when I first saw it

fresh copper Sep 21, 2018, 5:59 AM

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@chrome hound thank you for explaining way better than I did

thick minnow Sep 21, 2018, 11:27 AM

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Open source 📧

sage trench Sep 22, 2018, 2:42 AM

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I want to learn about networking because my internet is slow on my desktop

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Plus I wonder if I need a new router + modem

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I just have a DPC3010 and a N600

unreal wedge Sep 22, 2018, 4:22 AM

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@chrome hound https://www.zimbra.com/wp-admin I think not bud, that site's ~~hackable af~~ a wordpress.

fresh copper Sep 22, 2018, 4:29 AM

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I use G Suit for my email (got to get that infinite storage). I have a really basic setup though, I have one main address and everything else forwards to it.

sage trench Sep 22, 2018, 4:34 AM

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Before I start spending money on things that are overkill

grizzled palm Sep 22, 2018, 7:41 AM

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Anyone build out those Raspberry Pi cams and see how many cams a B+ can handle?

subtle glen Sep 22, 2018, 9:04 AM

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Even if you try with USB cams, one is enough to saturate cpu power

chrome hound Sep 22, 2018, 2:11 PM

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@unreal wedge wordpress is just an easy way to CRM your site, do I like wordpress nope, but Zimbra mail has been pretty rock solid for my uses

unreal wedge Sep 22, 2018, 5:25 PM

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Right, but WordPress is a turn off.

latent badger Sep 22, 2018, 5:32 PM

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Funny how you judge a companys product by their CMS

unreal wedge Sep 22, 2018, 5:46 PM

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If they choose something shitty in one place, they most likely chose other shitty things everywhere else. Funny how you're replying negatively to multiple chats I've checked so far.

latent badger Sep 22, 2018, 6:16 PM

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I mean, I have experience with their Zimbra product, and it is not bad. It could be better, of course. But everything could be better.

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And I do not make a point of being negative, but a disagreement is healthy and not necessary negative 😃

chrome hound Sep 22, 2018, 7:23 PM

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@unreal wedge marketing people are bad what can I say? WP is only as bad as you maintain it, so its valid platform for delivery of content 😄

latent badger Sep 22, 2018, 7:28 PM

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Everything is insecure with bad maintenance 😂

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But some of the bad rep on WP is well deserved

chrome hound Sep 22, 2018, 7:29 PM

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true, very true, but CRM platforms in general are bad at security

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its just not what is focused on when building the momy bloggers home

unreal wedge Sep 23, 2018, 2:14 AM

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When your application still hasn't patched SQL injection, you're going to build a bad rep.

fresh copper Sep 23, 2018, 2:15 AM

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Last time I tried to make a mail server it ended up being used by Russian spammers to send spam mail to Comcast cutomers

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True story

jolly grotto Sep 23, 2018, 6:25 AM

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lol

sturdy mirage Sep 23, 2018, 9:20 AM

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@sage trench
so your desktop is connected to router via wifi?

rigid slate Sep 23, 2018, 10:04 AM

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Do I need buy a hardware firewall for my network?

clear igloo Sep 23, 2018, 11:20 AM

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@rigid slate Not unless you REALLY need to throw money away or have a use case for it

latent badger Sep 23, 2018, 1:08 PM

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@unreal wedge Its about being available to everyone, even the ones only speaking SQL 😂

sly rampart Sep 23, 2018, 1:28 PM

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Anyone know any good networking monitoring & mapping tools?

sturdy mirage Sep 23, 2018, 2:09 PM

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packet tracer

unreal wedge Sep 23, 2018, 2:09 PM

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Advanced IP Scanner never steered me wrong.

sturdy mirage Sep 23, 2018, 2:09 PM

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for monitoring
maybe your router offer cool options @sly rampart

sly rampart Sep 23, 2018, 2:17 PM

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I'll try packed traser and advanced ip scanner. Thank you

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@sturdy mirage I haven't check my router settings yet, ill give that a try thanks

sturdy mirage Sep 23, 2018, 2:23 PM

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it's a basic :)

olive thorn Sep 23, 2018, 3:04 PM

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Anyone have any router recommendations? Preferably under $100

clear igloo Sep 23, 2018, 3:07 PM

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For what internet speed? Do you need fast wireless?

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Archer C7 is always a favorite go-to for solid performance all around

olive thorn Sep 23, 2018, 3:07 PM

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Gigabit fios. The standard Verizon router sucks

clear igloo Sep 23, 2018, 3:08 PM

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Archer C7 would be a solid choice for under $100 then

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https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-AC1750-Smart-WiFi-Router/dp/B00BUSDVBQ

olive thorn Sep 23, 2018, 3:09 PM

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Thanks! That looks like the one

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Lol. $150 for 'expert installation'

clear igloo Sep 23, 2018, 3:10 PM

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Haha, yah

sturdy mirage Sep 23, 2018, 3:15 PM

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maybe you should check for Unifi ubiquity stuff

rocky badge Sep 23, 2018, 3:16 PM

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You can't even get a security gateway and an AP for his price range

subtle glen Sep 23, 2018, 3:24 PM

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i have an archer C2 and the wifi seems pretty stable/fast (i use it in AP mode)

olive thorn Sep 23, 2018, 3:25 PM

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I'm not sure what Verizon model I have now, but it's dual band. Can't watch 1080p (let alone 4K) video upstairs because of buffer

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Even right next to it I get no more than 200 down

subtle glen Sep 23, 2018, 3:26 PM

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usually isp Routers have dual band wifi but it is slow, unstable and low range

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that's why i disabled both 2.4 and 5 Ghz and used the archer one to handle wifi devices

olive thorn Sep 23, 2018, 3:27 PM

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Good call. The most annoying thing is trying to get my LG TV to connect. For some reason the DHCP in the router and my TV don't get along

subtle glen Sep 23, 2018, 3:28 PM

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i went ethernet even for the tv 😄

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the tv connects to wifi but i prefer a good old ethernet cable

olive thorn Sep 23, 2018, 3:29 PM

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Tried that. I even tried assigning a static IP

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It's still a hit or miss every time

subtle glen Sep 23, 2018, 3:30 PM

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🤔 maybe there are updates for the tv that solve the problem?

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or ask the manufacture ?

olive thorn Sep 23, 2018, 3:32 PM

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I've looked into it a little bit. Apparently it's a DCHP issue where the network adapter in the TV needs to be reset (power unplugged) but I still have had little success. Everything except the TV is fine on the network

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I'm going to try a new router because the Verizon one is so bad and hopefully that works

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Didn't have this issue on my old TP-Link router

subtle glen Sep 23, 2018, 3:35 PM

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yeah put that in bridge mode and let the archer do everything

sage trench Sep 23, 2018, 4:05 PM

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@sturdy mirage WiFi yes, no Ethernet cable, no place to route it

subtle glen Sep 23, 2018, 4:08 PM

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there is always a route

sturdy mirage Sep 23, 2018, 4:14 PM

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@sage trench
maybe you should run some tests using ping commands to Google to evaluate latency

and ping to your router to evaluate delay of your wireless connection

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plus @subtle glen is right there is nearly always a rout for ethernet cables...

subtle glen Sep 23, 2018, 4:16 PM

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if i am about to run a cable under a street, you can run one from your router to the pc

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you may have to drill a hole but it's not that bad

trim wigeon Sep 23, 2018, 5:17 PM

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i wanted to break open my entire street for a fibre buildout

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my local govrment did not like that idea tho😩

fresh copper Sep 23, 2018, 5:29 PM

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On the talk of tools, I use HE’s network tools a lot. https://networktools.he.net/
It’s great for a phone app. It basically gives a mobile app for a bunch of common command line tools.
NMap/ZenMap is the most common choice for network mapping.

subtle glen Sep 23, 2018, 5:42 PM

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@trim wigeon fuck the goverment. Do it anyways

edgy seal Sep 23, 2018, 6:54 PM

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ltt: gets 100gb networking
uses windows
hm I wonder why it's so slow in file explorer
could they not use windows for once

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or at least not smb

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like use iscsi or something else that doesn't have as much overhead

clear igloo Sep 23, 2018, 7:15 PM

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At the least, tune Windows properly for those speeds 😛

subtle glen Sep 23, 2018, 7:57 PM

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wait, isn't drag and drop enough?

fresh copper Sep 23, 2018, 9:34 PM

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Apparently they now somewhat support Linux because of the new Proton thing

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Or whatever it's called (confession: I don't play games)

amber owl Sep 23, 2018, 9:43 PM

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hey guys! any recommendations for an 48-port sfp+ 19Gig switch? should have L3 hardware support

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pricepoint @ about 2-3k if possible

mighty sail Sep 24, 2018, 12:17 AM

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@amber owl whats solution for?

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Anyways you won't find a 48 Port all SFP switch for 3K outside of a UBNT solution which they dont' have yet. I suggest the HP FlexFabric 5900 AF though.

fresh copper Sep 24, 2018, 12:26 AM

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Best UBNT has at the moment is only 16 port

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It might be possible to find a used 48 port 10GBase-T switch for under 3k but nothing that’s all SFP+. The switch that netts recommended is good.

fresh copper Sep 24, 2018, 1:07 AM

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Here is what a friend says:
I'm a fan of the Dell s4048-on, but apparently you can buy the 25gb (10gb backwards compatible) s4048-on for the same price at the moment

rigid slate Sep 24, 2018, 5:41 AM

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Unifi vs edgemax on performance

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Which is better

fresh copper Sep 24, 2018, 5:54 AM

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I believe that Edgemax is technically a bit faster. In reality they are basically the same though and it's doubtful that you would ever notice the difference. You don't get the fancy SDN with Edgemax though.

unreal wedge Sep 24, 2018, 5:54 AM

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I've been told Edgemax, but I'm diehard Ubiquiti for life kappA

fresh copper Sep 24, 2018, 5:57 AM

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I prefer Unifi for most of my clients because of it's ease of use and SDN but Edgemax does not have the very tiny amount of overhead. Edgemax is also usually the first to have the higher performance models. EdgeMax had SFP+ long before Unifi did

high anchor Sep 24, 2018, 8:21 AM

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Most stuff have been said, if you want to have the full control on your router (and that CLI doesn't scare you), go for Edgemax routers, or if you prefer fully integrated GUI and remote management but without some power user features, you may want to go for UniFi routers

fresh copper Sep 24, 2018, 2:09 PM

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People always choose one or the other for the reasons Alex mentioned. No one that I have ever heard of will choose based one has better performance because they are so similar.

rigid slate Sep 24, 2018, 4:33 PM

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Another question do put server and router in your bedroom will affect your health (my parents concern about my health) better with report thx

hallow nimbus Sep 24, 2018, 4:36 PM

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Room wil be a bit hotter but thats all

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And it would be a bit more noizy

clear igloo Sep 24, 2018, 5:17 PM

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I have two enterprise grade APs with the power cranked to max within 30 feet of me on either side and about a half rack of servers, switches, etc. in my closet. I'm perfectly fine 😃

fresh copper Sep 24, 2018, 6:31 PM

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I have my max strength wifi ap basically right next to where I sleep and I’m fine.

I’ll see if I can find a study but if I remember correctly, evidence shows that wifi has no health effects because it is non-ionizing radiation. As for a server. I doubt there are any studies but it should be fine. Not sure you would want to sleep with all that noise though.

clear igloo Sep 24, 2018, 8:45 PM

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Yah, the noise, depending on how loud it is to start with, can wear on you over time

fresh copper Sep 24, 2018, 8:49 PM

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I could never put my server in my room. I back when I had it in the garage I could hear it all though the house

subtle glen Sep 24, 2018, 9:00 PM

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lol

📎 Capture.JPG

unreal wedge Sep 24, 2018, 9:02 PM

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@rigid slate no effect on health whatsoever, other than sleep loss from noise.

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@subtle glen oh shit

subtle glen Sep 24, 2018, 9:07 PM

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@unreal wedge

📎 2.JPG

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and this should be his rack

📎 fullish_rack_2-small.png

unreal wedge Sep 24, 2018, 9:09 PM

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It's not like they can cancel his contract, lol.

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They've got the bandwidth, so they shouldn't complain.

subtle glen Sep 24, 2018, 9:10 PM

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📎 3.JPG

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wait, only 300/65 ?

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he eventually switched to a business connection cause with those home servers he was violating the policy about not hosting servers at home

hallow nimbus Sep 24, 2018, 9:12 PM

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lmao

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Dat rack looks clean tho

subtle glen Sep 24, 2018, 9:13 PM

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at the begin, when the engineers saw that data traffic, they were thinking there was something about spam or cyber attacks going on

hallow nimbus Sep 24, 2018, 9:13 PM

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Lol

subtle glen Sep 24, 2018, 9:13 PM

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that's your plex library in a few years @hallow nimbus

hallow nimbus Sep 24, 2018, 9:14 PM

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Prob yes

subtle glen Sep 24, 2018, 9:14 PM

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a rack full of NAS'es that broadcast films to parents and half the city

hallow nimbus Sep 24, 2018, 9:15 PM

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😄

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World you mean

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With my 10Gbps connection

subtle glen Sep 24, 2018, 9:15 PM

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the next netflix

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pfff only 10g

hallow nimbus Sep 24, 2018, 9:15 PM

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IDk wher standards will be in a couple of years

subtle glen Sep 24, 2018, 9:15 PM

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mmmm qsfp+ 400 gbps cards

hallow nimbus Sep 24, 2018, 9:15 PM

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XD

fathom hound Sep 24, 2018, 10:38 PM

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Suggestions for how to create a tunnel between a Windows 10 client and an external Ubuntu (Server 16.04) Server? I need to be able to essentially redirect some or all connections that go to the external server back to the client, that way I can bypass my university's firewall and have the same effect as port-forwarding.

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Alternatively I can do it between the Windows Subsystem for Linux and the external server

chrome hound Sep 24, 2018, 11:39 PM

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openvpn on the ubuntu should work

grizzled palm Sep 25, 2018, 12:23 AM

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Isn't that just split-tunnel?

chrome hound Sep 25, 2018, 12:32 AM

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it can be depends on how you have the VPN setup

fresh copper Sep 25, 2018, 1:17 AM

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OpenVPN is definitely the easiest and can do all the things you need. WireGard is faster but I’m not sure if it’s supported on Windows/WSL.

lone abyss Sep 25, 2018, 1:28 AM

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what's a good home router been looking at a few

fathom hound Sep 25, 2018, 1:30 AM

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https://amzn.to/2xLWHDp

lone abyss Sep 25, 2018, 1:33 AM

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alright

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thanks

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bit more then what my aunt is looking to spend on one though lol

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/UTT-AC60-Dual-Band-Wireless-AC-Router-1200Mbps-5-High-Power-7dBi-Antennas/232765850395?epid=2074212855&hash=item3631ed031b ever heard of this brand?

eBay

UTT AC60 Dual Band Wireless AC Router, 1200Mbps, 5 High-Power 7dBi...

AC60 supports 802.11ac WiFi standard and is compatible with 802.11a/b/g/n. Moreover, it works on 2.4GHz band and 5GHz band, minimizing interference among wireless networks. Even users without network knowledge can get connected to Internet easily. | eBay!

fathom hound Sep 25, 2018, 2:04 AM

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I'd avoid tiny/unknown brands like that one

lone abyss Sep 25, 2018, 2:05 AM

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alright

fathom hound Sep 25, 2018, 2:05 AM

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Go with Netgear, ASUS, TP-Link, or Linksys

lone abyss Sep 25, 2018, 2:06 AM

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I'm avoiding TP-Link personally but the others are good, i was looking at this https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0ED-0005-00265&cm_re=Ubiquiti_UniFi_Enterprise_Wi-Fi_System-_-0ED-0005-00265-_-Product if it can plug into my router with a poe injector

chrome hound Sep 25, 2018, 2:06 AM

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and you don't really need expensive, consider your internet connection speed, and research em out

fathom hound Sep 25, 2018, 2:07 AM

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Ubiquiti is alright. I think @rocky badge is a fan of them

chrome hound Sep 25, 2018, 2:07 AM

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yep they are good and solid

fathom hound Sep 25, 2018, 2:07 AM

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I haven't had much experience with their gear

lone abyss Sep 25, 2018, 2:07 AM

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I don't know much about them but Linus uses them at LMG and has done videos about them

chrome hound Sep 25, 2018, 2:08 AM

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the problem you are going to have with Ubiquiti is they are less all in ones then say your average consumer grade setup

lone abyss Sep 25, 2018, 2:08 AM

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but I don't know what is all required for them to work like that's an AP

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yeah requires more then just one unit from what i gathered

chrome hound Sep 25, 2018, 2:09 AM

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well first what is your price range, second how much effort do you want to have to put in to setup, and third how much after install support do you want to supply?

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once you have those questions answered, your router will become clear 😄

lone abyss Sep 25, 2018, 2:11 AM

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well the price range was 100 dollars but if that AP works with our existing router then would be fine, I don't mind setting it up, I've setup a POE camera system from the ground up before ran the wires and everything

chrome hound Sep 25, 2018, 2:13 AM

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an AP should work with any router, sorry I though you were looking for a router

lone abyss Sep 25, 2018, 2:14 AM

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either or

chrome hound Sep 25, 2018, 2:14 AM

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an AP is just that, and access point were wireless gets access to wired network

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so if your current router is solid and your just lacking a WiFi than an AP would do it

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most Ubiquitie AP are going to come with there own inline PoE injector, which for home use is all you need

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in fact most AP's will have an inline injector

lone abyss Sep 25, 2018, 2:15 AM

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alright, I'll have to get a poe injector as that one says it doesn't come with one

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says sold separately in the product title

chrome hound Sep 25, 2018, 2:16 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=12K-017G-00001

Ubiquiti Networks POE-48-24W-US Power Over Ethernet Adapters - New...

Buy Ubiquiti Networks POE-48-24W-US Power Over Ethernet Adapters with fast shipping and top-rated customer service.Once you know, you Newegg!

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odd they are selling them separate, check out Amazon

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I am not seeing it, but make sure the PoE can support 1g speeds

lone abyss Sep 25, 2018, 2:18 AM

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another ubiquity AP included a poe injector but that model doesn't

chrome hound Sep 25, 2018, 2:18 AM

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I would get one that has it, just so it's paired right

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they also sell PoE switches so that AP is probably intended as a drop in with a PoE switch

lone abyss Sep 25, 2018, 2:19 AM

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the one that included the poe inject didn't support AC which was one of the reasons that one had my attention but guess can miss out AC if really need to

chrome hound Sep 25, 2018, 2:21 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-802-11ac-Dual-Radio-UAP-AC-PRO-US/dp/B015PRO512/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1537842038&sr=8-4&keywords=UAP-AC-PRO-E-US

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same AP AC injector

lone abyss Sep 25, 2018, 2:29 AM

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thanks

rocky badge Sep 25, 2018, 10:35 AM

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@fathom hound yeet

clear igloo Sep 25, 2018, 12:38 PM

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https://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/cisco-makes-terabit-scale-ethernet-networking-a-reality-with-400-gbe-technology

blogs@Cisco - Cisco Blogs

Cisco Makes Terabit Scale Ethernet Networking a Reality with 400 G...

The Cisco Nexus switch with 400 GbE of bandwidth gets put to the test in the Ethernet Alliance’s High-Speed Ethernet Plugfest in August.

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@subtle glen
400GbE to 100GbE switches
The 400GbE switch is on the bottom

zenith ridge Sep 25, 2018, 12:48 PM

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oh, you have 1TB to send over? No problem, wil just take 20seconds

rigid slate Sep 25, 2018, 1:39 PM

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what Layer 3 Forwarding Performance 4Gbps(line rate) mean does it matter?

zenith ridge Sep 25, 2018, 1:44 PM

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I think 4Gbps per cable, but don't quote me on that, I just read a few pages on google

clear igloo Sep 25, 2018, 3:14 PM

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line rate is used to say the box can handle everything at the full rated speed. Example an 8 port 1Gbps switch would usually have a 16Gbps or 20Gbps line-rate rating to allow for overhead

subtle glen Sep 25, 2018, 4:37 PM

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@clear igloo WOWOWO how much for that??!

fresh copper Sep 25, 2018, 9:11 PM

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The important thing to remember is that an 8 port 1G line rate switch may have 16-20Gbps of switching capacity but no one port has that. A majority (at least from what I have seen) of managed switches are line rate so its not going to be much more cost when it comes to switches. Only super cheep switches would not be line rate.

What is more impressive is like rate routers (or L3 switches). My ERX is not line rate. It could maybe handle 1-2G routing (with hardware offload turned on). If it’s routing between port 1 and 2 at full speed then anything going through the other ports will slow down the first two. (It does have an internal switch but we are just considering routing speed at the moment). You have to get a bit higher on the cost tree before you start having line rate routers.

fresh copper Sep 26, 2018, 2:37 AM

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I think some of you might like this: https://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/cisco-makes-terabit-scale-ethernet-networking-a-reality-with-400-gbe-technology

blogs@Cisco - Cisco Blogs

Cisco Makes Terabit Scale Ethernet Networking a Reality with 400 G...

The Cisco Nexus switch with 400 GbE of bandwidth gets put to the test in the Ethernet Alliance’s High-Speed Ethernet Plugfest in August.

zenith ridge Sep 26, 2018, 5:30 AM

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scroll back a bit @fresh copper

fresh copper Sep 26, 2018, 5:32 AM

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I don’t know how I missed that

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Then again, I remember reading it

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I think I read the same article twice

clear igloo Sep 26, 2018, 11:24 AM

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It was downloaded so fast you missed it 😛

amber owl Sep 26, 2018, 12:58 PM

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hey guys! short question: for a new wifi installation which percentage do you use for 802.1n compared to 802.1ac considering a) phones and b) laptops

clear igloo Sep 26, 2018, 1:24 PM

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About 75% of my stuff uses 802.11n but all my phones and laptops use AC

amber owl Sep 26, 2018, 1:25 PM

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what do you consider "stuff"

clear igloo Sep 26, 2018, 1:25 PM

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Most of the stuff that uses 802.11n is cameras, IoT devices, and the like

amber owl Sep 26, 2018, 2:11 PM

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ok thanks

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 4:17 PM

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Just my cameras use n, the rest of my devices are ac

rigid slate Sep 26, 2018, 6:56 PM

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any recommend for router
my isp provide 1g throughput
budget is 255usd
my old router is tp link c9 but it always hit cpu 100% and limited the speed

subtle glen Sep 26, 2018, 6:57 PM

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an asus, a netgear or a more powerful TP link

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or a custom router

rigid slate Sep 26, 2018, 6:59 PM

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which is the best option for me

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wire router maybe better

subtle glen Sep 26, 2018, 7:00 PM

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what setup you have

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what do you mean by wire router? a router without access point?

rigid slate Sep 26, 2018, 7:01 PM

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yep

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because i can use old one as ap

subtle glen Sep 26, 2018, 7:03 PM

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you could use a computer as router and install PfSense or any other router software on it. It will consume more power than a home router tho

rigid slate Sep 26, 2018, 7:03 PM

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i have 1 nas 5 computer 2 ap 1 switch

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i planning build an server for replacing one of the exist server, and the old server can use as router

subtle glen Sep 26, 2018, 7:07 PM

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👍

rigid slate Sep 26, 2018, 7:12 PM

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which have better performance per watt pfsence router or Unifi /edgemax pro router?

subtle glen Sep 26, 2018, 7:13 PM

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watt per performance??

clear igloo Sep 26, 2018, 7:14 PM

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Unifi/edgemax will offer more perf per watt

rigid slate Sep 26, 2018, 7:15 PM

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because i need play my electricity bill to my parent lol

subtle glen Sep 26, 2018, 7:16 PM

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don't play with electricity

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xD

rigid slate Sep 26, 2018, 7:21 PM

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gd for you

subtle glen Sep 26, 2018, 7:21 PM

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i don't think you got it....

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 7:28 PM

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Edgerouter supports line rate 1 gbps

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I can vouch for them

gritty owl Sep 26, 2018, 7:29 PM

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I have an edgerouter as well, no issues. I kind of went overkill with an edgerouter 4 though. lol

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 7:29 PM

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Yeah I made a mistake going for edge router 5 poe

subtle glen Sep 26, 2018, 7:29 PM

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my edgerouter login gui stopped working on chrome

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 7:30 PM

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When I am only using one trunk

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So wasted money

subtle glen Sep 26, 2018, 7:30 PM

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i use firefox to access it

gritty owl Sep 26, 2018, 7:30 PM

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Hmm, weird, my edgerouter GUI still works fine on chrome.

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 7:30 PM

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Hmm did you try clearing cache on chrome

subtle glen Sep 26, 2018, 7:30 PM

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maybe i just have to reboot?

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 7:30 PM

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That fixed issues like that for me

subtle glen Sep 26, 2018, 7:30 PM

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ill try

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 7:31 PM

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Edgerouter not good if you need 1gbps line rate with dpi

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It drops to about 268 mbps

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Without offload

subtle glen Sep 26, 2018, 7:31 PM

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seems to work now

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even tho i cleaned it recently

rigid slate Sep 26, 2018, 7:33 PM

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f12 network tab disable cache on

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 7:33 PM

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That's a good tip

gritty owl Sep 26, 2018, 7:38 PM

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Yeah, DPI takes a hit on the edgerouter

subtle glen Sep 26, 2018, 7:39 PM

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when will linus do an unboxing of that 400gbps switch 👀

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"sponsored by cisco"

rigid slate Sep 26, 2018, 7:43 PM

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i would like to see that

subtle glen Sep 26, 2018, 7:43 PM

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i would also like to see the deployment of his 10 g switch and the follow up of the lan party thing 😄

rigid slate Sep 26, 2018, 7:45 PM

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i think he should upgrade to 40g for his editor.
remember his 40g guide?

subtle glen Sep 26, 2018, 7:47 PM

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the one with sfp?

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i think he will be using ethernet for 10g

rigid slate Sep 26, 2018, 7:48 PM

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qsfp+

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infiniband

subtle glen Sep 26, 2018, 7:48 PM

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wasn't QSPF for future servers or to upgrade their ones?

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cause there are like only 2 QSFP

rigid slate Sep 26, 2018, 7:51 PM

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?

subtle glen Sep 26, 2018, 7:52 PM

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How do you connect a room full of editors to 2/4 qsfp plugs

rigid slate Sep 26, 2018, 7:54 PM

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switch?

subtle glen Sep 26, 2018, 7:59 PM

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....

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Nevermind, forget about it

rigid slate Sep 26, 2018, 8:06 PM

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sorry i am dumb

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 8:12 PM

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$$$ but in their case it actually worth the cost since

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They make money with the gear

hardy jolt Sep 26, 2018, 8:12 PM

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Hi i want to buy a network switch for my room bcauz i have 2pc and a pc what brand do i have to get?

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 8:12 PM

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It's not like they buy it for fun for no purpose

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They will see roi

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Asus, netgear, to tplink are all ones I tried

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If managed, unifi or edgeswitch

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All those are good

hardy jolt Sep 26, 2018, 8:14 PM

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Ok and i connect them all at once like the internet cable on the in i can still transfer files from pc to a pc?

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 8:17 PM

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The switch wouldn't have the internet cable plug into it. The router that you have would keep its internet cable in. The switch only connects to the two local computers that you want to have talk to each other

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On the same local network.

clear igloo Sep 26, 2018, 8:18 PM

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The switch would connect to the router and provide internet access to the devices via that cable and then to the devices you want to connect to the switch. I would get a 5 port TP-Link switch for $20 from Amazon

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@little schooner They might have some use cases for QSFP but I don't believe they have any fiber runs to support it throughout the offices which would require additional cost to run and construction is never fun for them 😦

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 8:20 PM

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Lol I forgot about the switch connecting with the router

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@clear igloo yeah that is expensive

clear igloo Sep 26, 2018, 8:22 PM

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I'm kind of surprised though that they didn't think to do a couple fiber runs when they did the office expansion though but shrug

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 8:23 PM

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@clear igloo they must of been satisfying current needs instead of thinking long-term

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Oversight

clear igloo Sep 26, 2018, 8:25 PM

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Yah, I mean you can do 25GbE over copper but need to have proper termination and do just about everything to minimize noise which is always tough

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 8:26 PM

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True, attention to detail to ensure best signal quality

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$$$ and time

clear igloo Sep 26, 2018, 8:27 PM

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Yah, copper also requires much more energy but is easier to interface with. Always that trade-off. Should have run 1 copper and 1 fiber line per editor 😛

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 8:29 PM

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I wish the intel 10G cards could be more affordable and the switches. I'm a bit skeptical about the used market for the intel cards

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Some of them are not genuine and I've gotten fake Cisco switch too

clear igloo Sep 26, 2018, 8:29 PM

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Yah, always sketchy =/

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 8:30 PM

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Like seriously that is sad

clear igloo Sep 26, 2018, 8:30 PM

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I went with Solarflare for my NICs

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 8:30 PM

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How they poison the market with coutnefeits

clear igloo Sep 26, 2018, 8:30 PM

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Yah, I hate it 😦

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 8:30 PM

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I needed a NIC that had VLAN support and uhh

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Receive side scaling

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The aquantia and others didnt have that

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Does the solar flare have it?

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I vlan tag

clear igloo Sep 26, 2018, 8:32 PM

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Yah, The SFN5122 is what I've got

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 8:32 PM

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I have to brb and I'll check that out

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Thanks for sharing

clear igloo Sep 26, 2018, 8:32 PM

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Yah, got RSS and VLAN tagging

subtle glen Sep 26, 2018, 9:28 PM

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eeee every wall outlet with fiber? That's expensive as heck

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all the NIC's for the pc's

rocky badge Sep 26, 2018, 9:28 PM

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We have fiber to every lab 😄

subtle glen Sep 26, 2018, 9:28 PM

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that would be a cool project tho

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tf

clear igloo Sep 26, 2018, 9:29 PM

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Maybe a few thousand total for the fiber runs but the NICs are like $200 or less

subtle glen Sep 26, 2018, 9:29 PM

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for the 10G is linus just gonna connect the cable from the patch panel to the 10G switch?

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or there is something else i missed

clear igloo Sep 26, 2018, 9:30 PM

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I think so

subtle glen Sep 26, 2018, 9:33 PM

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And also change the pc network cards I guess

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 10:01 PM

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@clear igloo hmm I looked at it and it looks like its sfp+

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Is that right?

clear igloo Sep 26, 2018, 10:01 PM

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Yah

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 10:01 PM

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Aw

clear igloo Sep 26, 2018, 10:01 PM

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I THINK they have a copper version but I don't remember =/

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 10:01 PM

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I got two long runs to my room

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Of cat 7

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They are eth though

clear igloo Sep 26, 2018, 10:07 PM

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Solarflare SFN5121T

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Is ethernet copper based

little schooner Sep 26, 2018, 11:00 PM

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Where did you buy yours? Newegg, bhphoto video and others dont have it or its expensive

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I want to buy new

clear igloo Sep 26, 2018, 11:00 PM

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I got mine off Newegg a few years ago

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I think they are all discont. these days so you'll probably have to do used =/

chrome hound Sep 26, 2018, 11:45 PM

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I picked up lots of 2 10gb fiber molenex cards from ebay, they work great, other than being a gen behind

little schooner Sep 27, 2018, 12:05 AM

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@clear igloo Ahh I guess I'll keep an eye out then

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thanks though

gritty owl Sep 27, 2018, 3:39 AM

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@clear igloo Oh, I have the same Solarflare NICs. I use one in my server, and one in my PC, They work great. I got them used from ebay though.

rigid slate Sep 27, 2018, 5:07 AM

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how to measure performance of a router

subtle glen Sep 27, 2018, 7:36 AM

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😁

📎 IMG_20180927_093558.png

zenith ridge Sep 27, 2018, 7:39 AM

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'or'

rigid slate Sep 27, 2018, 10:03 AM

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or how to compare router performance?

zenith ridge Sep 27, 2018, 10:08 AM

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google, compare specs? but usually the more expensive, the better ¯_(ツ)_/¯

stoic hornet Sep 27, 2018, 10:16 AM

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usually

zenith ridge Sep 27, 2018, 10:19 AM

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Well price increas also comes with more features, that not everyone needs, then it's not better for you if you are not going to use it..

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Tho, now that I have unifi from ubiquiti, I feel like that is a good price for a whole lan solution with a lot of features, unless you really only need 1 AP (then a normal router with build in AP is enough and cheaper)

little schooner Sep 27, 2018, 11:58 AM

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@zenith ridge yeah the unifi lineup of aps is pretty good.

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People new to it might not understand the whole SDN concept at first though

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Compared to how other wireless stuff is setup

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Otherwise a fantastic product for everyone else

zenith ridge Sep 27, 2018, 12:02 PM

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I'm not a network person at all, just a hobby more or less, and I succesfully set up vlans, guest network, and chromecast that works for both guest network and normal network

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So I can only recommend it if you like to play around with it first

little schooner Sep 27, 2018, 12:18 PM

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@zenith ridge I really love how it supports vlans at such a low price point.

gritty owl Sep 27, 2018, 12:44 PM

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Yep, it's always fun explaining to friends how / why my "routers" are on the ceiling. lol
and how the router is separate in my room.

little schooner Sep 27, 2018, 1:19 PM

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haha i bet yeah xD

noble dirge Sep 27, 2018, 3:17 PM

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quick question, have any of you guys heard the acronym TGHPT before in the world of networking ?

clear igloo Sep 27, 2018, 4:02 PM

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Never heard of it

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What is it supposed to stand for or what context?

little schooner Sep 27, 2018, 4:27 PM

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Never heard of it

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Is it something a friend made up?

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 5:32 AM

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19,90/ month for 1gbps

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Doesn't seems too bad for me

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 5:34 AM

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basically a steal

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but are there data caps?

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and what are terms

noble dirge Sep 28, 2018, 5:50 AM

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it was one of our providers at work. we asked for clarification on it and got this as a reply. feels likr a r/iamverysmart moment

📎 IMG-20180927-WA0001.jpg

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I have never in my whole IT cardear seen TGHPT used as throughout ...

alpine solstice Sep 28, 2018, 5:54 AM

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what about the virtual server

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 6:07 AM

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Yeah wth

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Tghpt

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Never heard of such thing in networking

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 9:18 AM

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FreeNAS vs Unraid
If you need storage and docker

What should you take, and why? I'm used to unraid, I love how easy it is to set up dockers and no other experience with it.

But while looking at server rack cases I found a 48 drive case.. Useless for unraid because I would just waste so much

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No idea if either of them can support LSI 9211-8i HBA and if it will work with drives of different sizes

slow pivot Sep 28, 2018, 2:11 PM

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FreeNAS has no "raid" capability built in

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It does have zfs, which does have the capability of performing some RAID-like functionality, and I quite like it (I'm running a FreeNAS box now, and will be running an unRaid box soon) @zenith ridge

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 2:36 PM

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Storage spaces have been working for me but at school we do use freenas

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 4:33 PM

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@little schooner No data caps. Also phone is included. For the terms i still have to see since they recently put the signs about 1 gbps but a lot of buildings like mine aren't hooked up yet. (there are just the conduits)

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that price is similar to all operators here

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 4:58 PM

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@slow pivot how about docker? and what specs should that server have?

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like minimal

slow pivot Sep 28, 2018, 4:58 PM

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@zenith ridge I don't use docker (and FreeNAS uses "jail" which is not really the same thing)

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 4:59 PM

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hmm, su basically judt for storage

slow pivot Sep 28, 2018, 4:59 PM

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And a minimal server for FreeNAS can be almost nothing... 4-8GB ram is fine for a few TB of data. Only thing is, it really depends on the usage, and I don't have hard numbers on heavy usage for FreeNAS

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If you're going to deploy this in a heavy-traffic environment, I'd say you will have to test it with your workload and be prepared to tune

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 5:01 PM

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hmm alright, thanks

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 6:19 PM

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@zenith ridge FreeBSD has support for docker

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@zenith ridge My vote goes also to FreeBSD / FreeNAS with ZFS 😃

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It also has BHyve, so you can easily virtualize say CoreOS.

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 6:22 PM

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@upbeat veldt interesting, and could you tell me more about ZFS, how does it work compared to unraid and ssd cache possible?

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 6:24 PM

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@zenith ridge I have been using ZFS on my personal desktop for years. It is a highly reliable filesystem and volume manager. SSD cache is possible, you can do read cache and write cache.

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@zenith ridge I use it mainly because it is so reliable, it prevents bit-rot etc.

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@zenith ridge ZFS is a huge topic, there is so much to say about it 😄

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Can you tell me what exactly you want to do? How much data you plan to store? How are you going to access it? etc...

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 6:33 PM

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@upbeat veldt I found a case
https://www.ebay.com/itm/4U-48-Bay-Chenbro-NR40700-SAS2-FREENAS-RAID-server-Chassis-UP-to-192TB-Capacity/142950809679?hash=item214888404f:g:hQcAAOSwheFasUjg

But it has more then 24 drive spaces, so waste of money on unraid.
That is why i'm looking into other OS options.

If possible I would use it to store my data, while also run web server, plex, and other dockers I have running right now.

While my current server would just do VMs instead of also storage and dockers.
Right now I have 2x 8TB, 2x 4TB, 3x3TB (and going to get 3 more 4TB free of a friend who wanted to make a nas, but will instead use my server)

eBay

4U 48 Bay Chenbro NR40700 SAS2 FREENAS RAID server Chassis UP to 1...

Server Chassis/ Case: Chenbro NR40700 (EOL). High Density, High Availability: 48 hot-swap top load HDD bays in a 4U 19”rackmount chassis. Up to 192TB storage capacity for data consolidation. Backplane: SAS2 6Gb/s Expander Backplane. | eBay!

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I also have 2x 1TB SSD

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My plan is to use 8TB drives for a while now, those are cheapest option right now /TB and those 3x3TB have to go soon aswell

fresh copper Sep 28, 2018, 6:36 PM

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I found an interesting firewall that has only one port and is made to work with existing routers using ARP spoofing.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/firewalla-blue-cybersecurity-for-home-business#/

Indiegogo

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clear igloo Sep 28, 2018, 6:41 PM

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Interesting concept

slow pivot Sep 28, 2018, 6:43 PM

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@zenith ridge How many drives does unRaid support?

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 6:43 PM

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@slow pivot 24, including cache drives

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 6:43 PM

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i found a really good firewall too

📎 watchguard.JPG

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not that expensive

slow pivot Sep 28, 2018, 6:43 PM

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How is LTT using it then?

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 6:43 PM

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only 60Gb

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 6:43 PM

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@zenith ridge Yes. Hm, I guess you could create multiple pools. One for your media that could consist out of a RAIDZ vdev (basically RAID5). And then a separate pool for your important data.

slow pivot Sep 28, 2018, 6:43 PM

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They have > 24 drives

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 6:44 PM

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@upbeat veldt Can you add drives at any time?

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Or do you always have to make a new vdev?

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 6:45 PM

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@zenith ridge Yes, you have to create a new vdev, but note that a vdev is part of a pool.

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 6:45 PM

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I think I understand

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basically, you can create 'raids' compared to raid 0,1,5,10 (vdevs) and add them to a pool (shared map?)

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 6:46 PM

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@zenith ridge So let's say you have a pool data like me with 2x3TB mirror vdev. Resulting in 3TB of free space. Then I can add another 2x3TB as mirror. This would increase the free space of the pool to 6TB.

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Or I could buy 5 drives and add them as RAIDZ2 (RAID6 basically)

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 6:48 PM

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and those vdevs are shared maps? or can you share multiple separate maps?

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 6:48 PM

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You have one folder then /data that is 6TB then.

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I hope I make sense 😄

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 6:49 PM

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You do

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Can you share the cache drives over multiple vdevs? I assume not?

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 6:50 PM

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Yes, the cache is pool wide

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 6:51 PM

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Cool, SSDs are expensive 😂

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wait

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no

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pool wide

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crap 😂

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 6:52 PM

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Why?

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 6:53 PM

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Guess I'll not be using those 1TB SSDs for that

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 6:53 PM

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Yeaahhh, 1 TB sounds overkill

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 6:54 PM

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they are almost always filled up 😐

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well, 1 is dedicated to VM drives

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so, that doesn't change

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 6:55 PM

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Yes, but for a cache.... Then 128 GB would suffice I think in your situation.

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Better add some RAM. ZFS loves RAM.

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 6:57 PM

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I'll be getting a new motherboard, cpu's and 64GB of ram, and switch the ram with my old server (128GB)

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 6:57 PM

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Also if you don't have enough RAM it can't fully utilize the full benefits of the read/write caches, because it stores block pointers in RAM.

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64 GB is nice 😮

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 6:58 PM

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you are going to ignore the switch with 128GB of the old server?

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😂

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But I guess that will do then

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 7:01 PM

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128 GB even better haha

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I only got 8 GB 😄

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:01 PM

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why stopping at 128

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go big

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 7:01 PM

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I guess I got all questions asked, enough to know I can go with freenas.
I'll try it out soon on an old pc

Will just be a more expensive storage upgrade when needed, because of the vdevs

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and 128GB is more then enough, thats why the vm server would get 64GB only

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:02 PM

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pffff it's never enough

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 7:02 PM

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I never used more then 70GB

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Well maybe I did at some point for a few seconds

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 7:02 PM

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@zenith ridge Well, there is so much to learn about ZFS. I would really check out BSDNow for tutorials and stuff like this one http://www.bsdnow.tv/episodes/2013_12_04-zettabytes_for_days

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@zenith ridge don't buy raid controllers.

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 7:03 PM

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that have to be IT flashed right?

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 7:03 PM

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@zenith ridge let ZFS handle all that, it wants raw access to the drives.

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 7:03 PM

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like unraid needs them

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Same as unraid

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LSI 9211-8i HBA comes with the case, as for as I can read, IT flashing them will work

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 7:06 PM

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@zenith ridge what is IT flashing?

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 7:06 PM

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Its a certain bios for raid controllers I assume, to let them work as JBOD cards

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It's a custom flash

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I have a raid controller in IT mode right now for unraid aswell

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 7:07 PM

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JBOD

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?

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😄

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 7:08 PM

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just a bunch of drives

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basically like your motherboard

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the OS will see the drives, while raid cards will create a single drive

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 7:09 PM

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Yes, I know haha. You wrote BSOD = Blue Screen of Death 😂

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 7:09 PM

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i did

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wait

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shoot

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oh

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wauw

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i see

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😂

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that's what happens when typing blind and doing other stuf I guess

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Anyway, thanks for the info! I'm out 😄

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:11 PM

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i called a tower pc "turret pc" yesterday cause i was looking at a book

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 7:12 PM

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😂 👌

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:16 PM

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or i was touching heatsinks to feel if they were hot while watching the monitor and got shocked 😀

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 7:25 PM

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New credit card, how fun to have to change your billing info on every single site -_-

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:26 PM

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hehehe

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 7:29 PM

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Also wonder why I pay $1,18 for my backups, when the bill is only $0,50

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 7:29 PM

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I pay 120 for mine

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:29 PM

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why don't i have any backups

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 7:29 PM

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Crashplan went business only

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:30 PM

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then this happens and i am screwed

📎 rip.PNG

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no wait wrong pic

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📎 whoops.PNG

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there we go

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 7:31 PM

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@subtle glen dude... go fix that.

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:31 PM

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i did (i may have lost some pictures tho)

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 7:32 PM

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I use Backblaze B2, cheap as fuck

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@little schooner how much data is that? 😮

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:33 PM

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i would like a proper local bakckup nas first

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and maybe a remote backup of the nas if i had a credit card

clear igloo Sep 28, 2018, 7:35 PM

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I just use Crashplan business, it's $2.50/month per computer

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:35 PM

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it would take days to backup to a remote location

📎 speed.PNG

clear igloo Sep 28, 2018, 7:35 PM

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Funnel it all to a NAS and mount it via SMB to a linux box so it's a single PC 😛

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:35 PM

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do you backup your nas @clear igloo ?

clear igloo Sep 28, 2018, 7:35 PM

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ofc

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 7:35 PM

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@subtle glen Yes, that's what I do too. My moms laptop is backup up like this: backup using rsync to my NAS, backup up using bup to my PC stored on a ZFS pool in my apartment, and backup up using duplicity encrypted and all in Backblaze B2. 😃

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 7:36 PM

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~~doesnt do backups~~

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 7:36 PM

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3-2-1 😃

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:36 PM

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so a local backup that backup onto a remote one

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 7:36 PM

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https://www.crashplan.com/en-us/business/ @upbeat veldt

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clear igloo Sep 28, 2018, 7:36 PM

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*smacks @rocky badge *

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 7:36 PM

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10 a month

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 7:36 PM

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dodges

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 7:36 PM

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I only use about 1.8 TB of uploaded data

clear igloo Sep 28, 2018, 7:36 PM

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Hmmm, I think there was a promotion for home users who switched shrug

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 7:36 PM

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There was, but it was over for me

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Promo pricing

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:37 PM

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backups are for weak people. i like that feeling when you lose TB of data

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 7:37 PM

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I did a Windows server backup... estimated 4TB lol

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 7:37 PM

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@clear igloo your right

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 7:38 PM

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@subtle glen Yes, I know. Do you have a speedy connection at work or so?

clear igloo Sep 28, 2018, 7:38 PM

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I've got 13TB of data on the NAS right now, 7TB of backed up stuff and the other 5 or so I can stand to lose (security footage mostly)

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:38 PM

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meh i cant afford proper backups

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disks are expensive

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 7:38 PM

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My oldest modern file that I have is from 2005 so I am using this to keep it forever and protect any new pictures and stuff

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 7:38 PM

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@subtle glen then you can put it on an external drive and upload your backup set there.

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:39 PM

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i found an used hdd for 1$ linusPerfect

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 7:39 PM

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@clear igloo yeah I have my security footage set to be lost since it's not really that important

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 7:39 PM

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My oldest file is from 1998

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I wasn't born yet

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:39 PM

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i wasn't even born

clear igloo Sep 28, 2018, 7:39 PM

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lol, kids 😛

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 7:39 PM

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Well, not mine, my parents'

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 7:39 PM

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My parents older files gone

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They didnt backup

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:39 PM

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nou @clear igloo

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 7:39 PM

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rip

clear igloo Sep 28, 2018, 7:40 PM

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I'm 28 tyvm, I'm adulting right now! See!!

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 7:40 PM

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Nothing like the gateway gt5438 pc

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:40 PM

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i wish i was older to hear the modem sound

clear igloo Sep 28, 2018, 7:40 PM

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No you don't!

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 7:40 PM

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I remember disconnecting the modem cable

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To stop the internet

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Fooling around

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:40 PM

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nou lurick

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 7:40 PM

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lmao

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I need a new modem

clear igloo Sep 28, 2018, 7:41 PM

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tfw you picked up the phone and someone was using the internet x.x

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 7:41 PM

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Sometimes it does 10/100 and sometimes it does gigabit

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:41 PM

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i got 3 54k modems that i don't want to throw away

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but definitely this ATX psu is flying out of the window. None can shock me randomly

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seriously, who the fuck uses exposed heatsinks as part of the high voltage circuit

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 7:42 PM

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Dad's funding max $300 for an old pc upgrade

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 7:42 PM

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@subtle glen 1 TB would cost $5 a month on Backblaze B2 btw.

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:42 PM

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the problem is how to pay that @upbeat veldt

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 7:42 PM

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@subtle glen $0,005 per GB

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@subtle glen Paypal?

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:43 PM

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i would have to do that first

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 7:43 PM

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@subtle glen no I lied, they don't have that haha

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:43 PM

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considering i earn 10 euros every saturday, that's expensive

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 7:43 PM

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My dad wants a surface to remote into windows lmao

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:44 PM

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i want a gtx 1080TI to play mc

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 7:44 PM

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@subtle glen how old are you ?

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:44 PM

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my mom recently started to pay me 😛

clear igloo Sep 28, 2018, 7:45 PM

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When I was your age I had a job shakes cane

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 7:45 PM

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Lol

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:45 PM

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i can go in a chinese factory and work there

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problem solved

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so that i can afford that 400 gbps switch

clear igloo Sep 28, 2018, 7:46 PM

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lol

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 7:46 PM

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10/10 run

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I'm glad I don't go to this school anymore

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:47 PM

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you clearly havent seen my school

thick minnow Sep 28, 2018, 7:47 PM

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i have the worst networking ever

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:47 PM

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COUGH

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run 11/10

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 7:48 PM

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oh God

thick minnow Sep 28, 2018, 7:48 PM

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i have a cable just runing in kitchen then up stairs then wifi router then 1gb switch then my pc

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:48 PM

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sometimes they complain about the cables..

thick minnow Sep 28, 2018, 7:48 PM

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10/10 setup

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 7:49 PM

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I couldn't do backblaze because they were missing some features that crashplan had at the time

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It was worth the extra $5

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:50 PM

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i should start my backup company with my 1 TB nas box

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 7:50 PM

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Freenas works great for that

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Unless you can afford server 2016 and do storage spaces

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:51 PM

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the problem is that i see that freenas requires a minimum of 8GB of ram that i don't have rn

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 7:51 PM

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I use storage spaces with tiering

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It works quite good

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:51 PM

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*i dont have a 1151 cpu or ddr3 rams

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 7:52 PM

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@subtle glen it doesn't really

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:52 PM

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i got a tower case that could be used as a nas. there are quite few hdd slots

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 7:52 PM

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@subtle glen you can reduce the ARC size

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:52 PM

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uhhh

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 7:53 PM

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@little schooner like? they have a separate service B2 which you can use in combination with standard backup utilities such as duplicity.

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:55 PM

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excuse me, the ARC what? @upbeat veldt

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 7:55 PM

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@upbeat veldt hmm but is it cheaper than $10

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 7:55 PM

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@subtle glen That is the RAM cache ZFS uses. You can limit that to 1 GB for example.

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@subtle glen just will be a bit slower

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 7:56 PM

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maybe i should download it first

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the storage/plugin/etc version ?

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 8:00 PM

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@subtle glen Hm, haven't used FreeNAS in a while, so I guess yes.

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:00 PM

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15 minutes to download 652MB of files linusPerfect

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AKA freenas

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 8:02 PM

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Uh, slow connection?

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:03 PM

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why you saying that

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it's too fast. Freenas servers are bottlenecking

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 8:04 PM

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Nope 😄

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:04 PM

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and it's also so fast that the speedtest server register it as 7 mbps

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 8:08 PM

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But what if I told you that I can download the image with 30 Mbps 😄

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:09 PM

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what if i told you i cant even VPN with that "illegal connection"

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 8:26 PM

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thats

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so slow

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😱

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:27 PM

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📎 speedtest_bad.PNG

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 8:27 PM

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😱

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Also have a 100/10 connection, and it used to be load balanced

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:29 PM

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2 connections?

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 8:30 PM

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yes

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:30 PM

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cool

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 8:30 PM

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1 from my dad work, and one we got ourself

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:31 PM

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wonder if i can do that too. On the floor junction box there are 2 fiber cables: one for me and one for the neighbour that will never use fiber. maybe there are some extra fiber cables i can use

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maybe i'll count how many of them there are tomorrow

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 8:32 PM

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hmm

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why would you be able to do that

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we dont even have fiber

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:33 PM

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becaaause the ONT is open

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 8:34 PM

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Where we live the ISP gives you a modem, and the connection from that modem is limited

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:34 PM

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no data caps here (from what i know)

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 8:34 PM

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no way to get a connection even if you tried on the actual cable from the ISP

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idk how it works over there

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:34 PM

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if i get fiber i'd like to find a way to use my own router or put the modem in bridge mode

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 8:35 PM

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data caps isn't the problem

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just that every modem is limited to a speed

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:35 PM

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that's why i want to use mine

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pretty sure that a modem in bridge mode still gives some limitations

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 8:36 PM

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We do get our own public IP on our router

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modem does nothing more them limit+ convert coax to ethernet

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cable

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:37 PM

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i have the isp modem/router combo thing and an edgerouter, so if you have to port forward or something it becomes complicated

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i'm trying to bridge it

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:38 PM

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@subtle glen you do realize that rate limiting can be done at the switch as well

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 8:39 PM

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@subtle glen why the combo and edgerouter

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You can NAT for port forwarding

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On edgerouter

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:40 PM

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@chrome hound for switch you mean the ISP rack on the street?

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:40 PM

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Is the modem/router in bridge mode?

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:41 PM

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@little schooner cause by looking at the manual of the ISP routeri didn't fully understand the bridge mode thing

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heheh no

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:41 PM

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rip

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:41 PM

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your fiber runs back to a distribution switch some where, they can rate limit on that hardware

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:41 PM

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I port forward on my edgerouter but my modem is only a modem

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 8:41 PM

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It's not difficult

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:41 PM

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modem is such a bad term for what it really is

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 8:42 PM

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Call it gateway instead

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:42 PM

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Wait, is he using fiber? Wouldn't that be an ONT?

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:42 PM

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@chrome hound yeah, i mean of course they limit bandwith somewhere depending on your plan. i am not expecting 500+ mbps by replacing the isp router, but..

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:42 PM

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CPE

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:42 PM

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not yet @rocky badge . the fiber is not terminated

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:42 PM

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oh, oof

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:42 PM

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yeah...

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:43 PM

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man how long have you been waiting for them to terminat that line??

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:43 PM

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I'm running alpha on my er https://linusdrop.tips/fea4ad26.png

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:43 PM

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few months?

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they keep digging and digging to connect more houses but everything is still off

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:43 PM

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wow, who was the ISP again? want to avoid them 😛

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:44 PM

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it's a 3rd party company. ISP's buy slots into their distribution stations where they can put expansion cards to control traffic on the fiber lines

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but like 2 days ago an isp put the signs with the price for fiber so i guess we are getting close

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 8:45 PM

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comcast is the monopoly in my neighborhood

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anti-competition

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:45 PM

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Any cheapish Gigabit NICs that's supported by ESXi?

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:45 PM

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lol i can imagine the price for internet

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:46 PM

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preferably <$50

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:46 PM

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since there is no competition they can make you pay whatever they want

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 8:46 PM

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Well, for internet, for 100 meg it was $80ish

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:46 PM

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@rocky badge I didn't think ESXi was too picky

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:46 PM

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Lol wtf

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 8:46 PM

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yes its rip off price

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:46 PM

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I think ESXi works with most Intel NICs

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:46 PM

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comcast they make the music

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 8:46 PM

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for 25 meg its 49.99

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broken pricing

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:47 PM

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1 gbps at 19.90/ 24.50 per month here

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:47 PM

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We pay ~$60/mo for 200/10

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 8:47 PM

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man that must be nice

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:47 PM

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what a ripoff

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 8:47 PM

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70€ ~ for 200/20

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:47 PM

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*in the US

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:47 PM

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wow..

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everyone come to italy

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:47 PM

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https://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/search.php?deviceCategory=io

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:47 PM

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No thanks lol

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 8:47 PM

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They basically dont have any other cable company, just comcast

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 8:47 PM

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@zenith ridge why the shitty upload speed?

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:48 PM

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@chrome hound Ah, I'll try that

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 8:48 PM

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I want something like google fiber

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 8:48 PM

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because thats how it is in belgium

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:48 PM

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Most ISPs don't do symmetrical, at least in the US most of the times.

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:48 PM

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google fiber doesn't dig for fiber anymore

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:48 PM

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some of us can pay 199.99 for 10gb

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 8:48 PM

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I would love some more upload

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:49 PM

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I live 3 hours away from that @chrome hound

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:49 PM

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I live in that 😛

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 8:49 PM

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More upload would of made my life easier with uploading data to cloud backup faster

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:49 PM

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and its all symmetrical sooooo 😄

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 8:49 PM

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My initial backup took almost a month

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:49 PM

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Wait, my bad it's 299.99 lmao

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https://linusdrop.tips/22215ebd.png

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:50 PM

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@zenith ridge were you the one that said the cache server for 1 person is useless?

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:50 PM

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well 199.99 to 149.99 pending the ISP

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 8:50 PM

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300 is worth it for 10Gb

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:50 PM

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upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 8:50 PM

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My parents are getting fiber soon 😃 They are probably digging today 😛

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:50 PM

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and if you are an employee, only 100 for 10gb 😛

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:50 PM

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One of their customer's racks

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:50 PM

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the guy that has 10g

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i've read that too

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:51 PM

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you are back east right @rocky badge

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:51 PM

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yes

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:52 PM

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i tried asking my mom if there was a remote possibility to have 2 1 gbps lines

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she said no 😢

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 8:52 PM

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why

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:52 PM

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hahaha

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 8:52 PM

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@subtle glen one ain't enough for you?

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:52 PM

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parents just never understand

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:52 PM

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hell nah

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i wanna go big

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 8:52 PM

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So I checked the comcast website now, and the most they offer is 2Gbps @ 299.95 per month

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:53 PM

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one 1g for him and 1gb for the family and his back up ;P

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:53 PM

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and if i find fiber cables that will not be used in that ONT i will get a job and have a 2nd line

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:53 PM

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Fastest I can get here is 400/20

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oof

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:53 PM

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nah, they can live off 30mbps @chrome hound

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 8:53 PM

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does everyone here have fiber to home ready? 😂

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:53 PM

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for whatsapp messages and some videos, that's enough

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:53 PM

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I think that is technically a handhold or splic box

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 8:53 PM

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we have to pay 20k or so to get fiber to home, to start with

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:54 PM

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No

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:54 PM

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where the building cable meets the street cable. how do you call that

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 8:54 PM

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They support fiber to my home

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:54 PM

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A local company wants to run fiber though

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 8:54 PM

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but you gotta fork up the installation cost

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:54 PM

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ONT/CPE is the hardware in your home that takes the fiber and gives you a copper conenction

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:54 PM

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...

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 8:54 PM

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its huge cost for comcast

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:54 PM

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and for you

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:54 PM

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200Mbps for a business....rip

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 8:54 PM

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yes thats what i meant

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:54 PM

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so that's a splicing box? @chrome hound

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:54 PM

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200Mbps is shit for businesses

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:55 PM

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yea splice box or case

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 8:55 PM

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my work has half my speed at home

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not counting second connection at home

upbeat veldt Sep 28, 2018, 8:55 PM

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@subtle glen pf queues are nice for that 😃

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:55 PM

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My school has 2x gigabit bonded

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 8:55 PM

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😱

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:55 PM

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@chrome hound can you understand how many fiber strands are inside the cable from the words written on the cable?

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my school has less than 100 mbps

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:56 PM

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some times, like the 720 back bone cables we run will say 720C on them

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:56 PM

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and they complain when wifi is slow

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is that 24 1g

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 8:57 PM

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this is a problem

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 8:57 PM

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OH GOD

silk spindle Sep 28, 2018, 8:57 PM

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oof

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:57 PM

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oh shut up

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 8:58 PM

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that upload

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:58 PM

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i dont even reach 1 mbps in upload

silk spindle Sep 28, 2018, 8:58 PM

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i get 100 down and 100 up at my uni apartment

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:58 PM

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not really sure by that label

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:58 PM

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oh ok

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 8:58 PM

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comcast doesnt even list its upload speed

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this is probably why

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 8:58 PM

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At school they rate limit to 10/10

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 8:58 PM

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@silk spindle nice picture there

silk spindle Sep 28, 2018, 8:58 PM

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ayy

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 8:58 PM

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you don;t need upload you sheepla

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:58 PM

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ah sure

clear igloo Sep 28, 2018, 8:58 PM

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I do indeed need upload 😛

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:58 PM

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you dont

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i do

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 8:59 PM

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without upload speed, windows update kills my internet

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everything stops working

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:59 PM

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what should i say then?

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 8:59 PM

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the peering downloading thing

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 8:59 PM

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when i upload a 1 minute clip to yt it feels like i am under a DDOS attack

clear igloo Sep 28, 2018, 8:59 PM

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Why not turn it off?

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 8:59 PM

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I have it set to local network only but

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not sure why it still

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slows me down

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My families computers get updates from one up to date desktop upstairs

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it speeds up their updating time

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 9:00 PM

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and apparently the folder with the games is gone sooo see ya games in 4 days

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i do need a steam cache server

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 9:00 PM

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rip bandwidth

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 9:01 PM

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^

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whoever said it was a waste for 1 user, you are wrong

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 9:01 PM

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i said that

clear igloo Sep 28, 2018, 9:01 PM

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It is if you only download it once or twice

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 9:01 PM

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hmm did you try backing up steam library

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 9:01 PM

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HAHA

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 9:01 PM

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xD

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 9:01 PM

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no

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 9:02 PM

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400/20 is $70/mo here

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Gonna convince dad to switch

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 9:02 PM

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good luck

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 9:02 PM

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Do you really need 400

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100 is pretty good

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 9:02 PM

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Drop TV and phone, use YT TV, Sling, and Hulu live TV

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Yes

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I need 400

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 9:02 PM

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ive been asking for a 30 mbps connection for 3 years and i'm still here with my 7/0.70

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 9:03 PM

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Over WiFi rn https://linusdrop.tips/566cfbec.png

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 9:03 PM

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@little schooner yea, I didn't notice the change from 200 to 300, and that 300 was load balanced, so it came with other problems, so I just removed the load balance

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 9:04 PM

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maybe i can do a GoFundMe page to earn money for that 2nd connection 😄

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 9:04 PM

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Make sure to ask for enough for more than a year of service

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 9:04 PM

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or a patreon

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just use a clickbait title and woilà

zenith ridge Sep 28, 2018, 9:05 PM

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2 connections aren't really a solution, 1 fast connection is the way to go

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 9:05 PM

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go tell that to an enterprise

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 9:05 PM

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When we upgrade, I'm gonna do PfSense as well

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 9:05 PM

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@rocky badge so I think I have finally maxed out my PC network speed, its a 2010 build i7-3770

📎 unknown.png

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 9:05 PM

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rip

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 9:05 PM

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again, the uncovered ip xD

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 9:05 PM

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NIC bottleneck?

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 9:06 PM

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CPU I think

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my son newer i7-7700k pulls 5gb

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 9:06 PM

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@clear igloo planning on getting your hands on one of those QSFP 400 gbps switches?

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that maybe you can take home?

clear igloo Sep 28, 2018, 9:06 PM

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lol

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I'll only see them if the customer goes that route

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 9:06 PM

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I use a PFSense for openvpn access now

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its really great

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 9:07 PM

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I am also seeing a thermal hit on the PFSense now though

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 9:07 PM

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don't they give you stuff for lab testing?

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i will be that customer one day

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 9:08 PM

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I'm going with an 8700K

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 9:09 PM

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I am just about to the point where I want to up date, but I am on the fence between i7 and spending the money for an i9

clear igloo Sep 28, 2018, 9:10 PM

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which i9?

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 9:10 PM

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good question

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 9:11 PM

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I got my hands on a Pentium D 820 😎

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who needs i7/i9/xeon

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 9:22 PM

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@chrome hound https://pfsense.cloud.ryois.me/

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😄

chrome hound Sep 28, 2018, 9:22 PM

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nice

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 9:22 PM

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For gaming cluster

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aka VMs for remote access at school

little schooner Sep 28, 2018, 9:30 PM

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They should really use VPN for access to that

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 9:31 PM

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That's mine

hallow nimbus Sep 28, 2018, 9:32 PM

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https://bluecrazii.nl/Images/suNM1bnga.png @rocky badge

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Pi-Hole stats 😄

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 9:32 PM

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oof

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needs moar in block list

hallow nimbus Sep 28, 2018, 9:32 PM

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Lol

silk spindle Sep 28, 2018, 9:32 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/350445208221253642/494246296912396288/unknown.png

hallow nimbus Sep 28, 2018, 9:32 PM

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You broke it GG

silk spindle Sep 28, 2018, 9:33 PM

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tfw you block the whole internet

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 9:33 PM

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block: ALL

hallow nimbus Sep 28, 2018, 9:34 PM

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Atleast this shit is blocked https://bluecrazii.nl/Images/9cFXo0XaQ.png

karmic dragon Sep 28, 2018, 9:34 PM

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Oh blob

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 9:34 PM

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Falcon

subtle glen Sep 28, 2018, 9:34 PM

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📎 pihole.JPG

karmic dragon Sep 28, 2018, 9:34 PM

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Come here and you stand right out :D

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 9:34 PM

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😄

karmic dragon Sep 28, 2018, 9:34 PM

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Should have known :p

rocky badge Sep 28, 2018, 9:35 PM

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lol

rigid slate Sep 29, 2018, 5:01 AM

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should i study ccna

little schooner Sep 29, 2018, 6:10 AM

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@rigid slate I did but it was part of my degree program

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There was four classes that I had to take that ended up preparing me

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And I ended up getting it

rigid slate Sep 29, 2018, 6:14 AM

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Can I ask what degree you studying

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Was it useful

little schooner Sep 29, 2018, 6:16 AM

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Networking technology and I needed it first in order to continue on to a cyber focus for bachelors degree

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So I got one associates

slow pivot Sep 30, 2018, 12:51 PM

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Obviously a generalization, but certifications are mostly useless unless they "pay for themselves", and you will know if they do

clear igloo Sep 30, 2018, 1:10 PM

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Yah, unless they help you get, keep/maintain, or advance in a job you want then there isn't much point

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and for the latter two you usually get the employer to pay for them on your behalf

remote kernel Sep 30, 2018, 2:30 PM

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I'm looking at a house today, any things I should look for in regards to installing a network?

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Also if I do buy a new house, should I go Cat6a or Cat7?

clear igloo Sep 30, 2018, 2:34 PM

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Just go with Cat6a, Cat7 is not a recognized standard for TIA/EIA and won't net you any real benefit and imo would probably get you worse cable quality since people won't check it as closely

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 2:35 PM

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fricking wire up everything

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ethernet jacks in bathrooms, basement, attic. audio cables, power cables, coax cables, EVERYTHING

clear igloo Sep 30, 2018, 2:35 PM

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lol

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 2:36 PM

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dont forget about the garage

clear igloo Sep 30, 2018, 2:37 PM

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@remote kernel As for wiring the house itself up, regardless of the cable, make sure you run at least 1 down to the crawlspace/basement and one to the attic and do it all right, with conduit, so you can run more in the future if needed

remote kernel Sep 30, 2018, 3:02 PM

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@clear igloo im going to run the basement runs through an air return duct hopefully

clear igloo Sep 30, 2018, 3:04 PM

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You in the US @remote kernel and if so, which state?
Asking because if you end up getting fiber then it will determine where you need to run to the ONT

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I guess the better question is, garage or not?

remote kernel Sep 30, 2018, 3:04 PM

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yeah, US, missouri

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and i probably wont be getting fibre

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we have 1gig cable here

clear igloo Sep 30, 2018, 3:05 PM

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Nice, Spectrum?

remote kernel Sep 30, 2018, 3:05 PM

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no, mediacom

clear igloo Sep 30, 2018, 3:05 PM

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Cool, well then I guess you don't have to worry about running extra for fiber 😛

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Now if you really want to go all out, wire the ceiling for APs as well

remote kernel Sep 30, 2018, 3:14 PM

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yeah im doing that

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 3:31 PM

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wall jacks on the outside as well

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and a big big big breaker panel cause the bigger, the better

hallow nimbus Sep 30, 2018, 6:34 PM

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Breaker panel on the outside sounds like a great plan

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 6:36 PM

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i mean for the house. also

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📎 9k.png

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a breaker panel on the outside

fresh copper Sep 30, 2018, 6:52 PM

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Anyone have much experience with ZeroTier? I'm trying to disable the ARP requests that it sends out for a specific interface. This interface is bridged to the ZeroTier interface so these arps end up going out over the ZeroTier interface which causes issues. I should note, for those that don't know how ZeroTier works, these are not normal arp requests that are sent out when a device needs to connect to something on a lan. They are sent out specifically by the ZeroTier service for IPs that are not even available on that interface.

remote kernel Sep 30, 2018, 9:35 PM

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Guys I'm not building a new house lol @subtle glen @hallow nimbus

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Adding networking to an existing house that is new to me

hallow nimbus Sep 30, 2018, 9:37 PM

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Buy 30 meter cable and run that over the stairs 😄

remote kernel Sep 30, 2018, 9:37 PM

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Trip hazard

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 9:37 PM

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hAHA

hallow nimbus Sep 30, 2018, 9:37 PM

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its fine

remote kernel Sep 30, 2018, 9:37 PM

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Plus I'm trying to do this as professional as possible

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Like server rack with patch panel

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 9:38 PM

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ghetto style is the way to go

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use a toilet as a rack

remote kernel Sep 30, 2018, 9:38 PM

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Is punching down a patch panel hard?

little schooner Sep 30, 2018, 9:38 PM

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Server rack with patch panel great idea

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And pick a single spot to centralize it

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Basement or attic

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 9:38 PM

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nah, you just have to calibrate the punchdown tool so that it doesn't break the patch panel

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you can even do that with a screwdriver

remote kernel Sep 30, 2018, 9:39 PM

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It's going in the basement @little schooner

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Gonna buy me a PowerEdge r810 for that rack too :)

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32 cores

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64 threads

hallow nimbus Sep 30, 2018, 9:39 PM

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😮

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Threadripper or intel ?

remote kernel Sep 30, 2018, 9:39 PM

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64gb ddr3 ecc ram

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 9:39 PM

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use an intel centrino

remote kernel Sep 30, 2018, 9:40 PM

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It's a server so Intel Xeons @hallow nimbus

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Threadripper isn't for servers

little schooner Sep 30, 2018, 9:40 PM

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@remote kernel you can get ideas from this site

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https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Stories/An-Enterprise-Home-Network/cns-p/2494217

An Enterprise Home Network

This spring our office was contact by an individual who found us through a Google search. They started out by asking if we did residential work. The short answer is no, but of course I didn’t say that. I asked if they were a business owner or worked out of their home and in...

remote kernel Sep 30, 2018, 9:40 PM

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4 Xeons to be precise

little schooner Sep 30, 2018, 9:40 PM

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They have other stories to help you see how others did they patch paneling

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And stuff

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 9:40 PM

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4 @little schooner 's?

little schooner Sep 30, 2018, 9:40 PM

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Hey I'm pinged lol

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 9:41 PM

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you are going into a chassis

remote kernel Sep 30, 2018, 9:41 PM

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@subtle glen yeah 4 xeons

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It's a Dell poweredge

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 9:41 PM

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what are you going to use it for

remote kernel Sep 30, 2018, 9:41 PM

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VMs

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Domain controller, file server, Plex server

little schooner Sep 30, 2018, 9:42 PM

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@remote kernel heres another guy what he did https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Stories/Reconstruction-of-the-quot-server-room-quot/cns-p/2488777

Reconstruction of the "server room"

Hello all. I built my home network in 2005. Last year, after a long reconnaissance of network devices, I decided to upgrade my home network using Ubiquiti. The first step was the rebuilding of the patchpanel Such a state was before reconstruction. The old solution was ...

remote kernel Sep 30, 2018, 9:42 PM

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That's too ghetto

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I'm going for something like the first one but a floor rack that's bigger

hallow nimbus Sep 30, 2018, 9:43 PM

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After seeing this mine aint too bad XD

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BRB

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 9:44 PM

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this is what I did

📎 IMG_20180929_102710.jpg

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Nah, just kidding

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if you look closely you can see a zip tie

📎 IMG_20180910_211758.jpg

little schooner Sep 30, 2018, 9:46 PM

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The white one?

hallow nimbus Sep 30, 2018, 9:46 PM

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Juzes what a mess

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 9:46 PM

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its a piece of art

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i called it "the spaghetti"

little schooner Sep 30, 2018, 9:46 PM

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@remote kernel a floor one like in this picture? https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Stories/Home-Network/cns-p/2421747

Home Network

My Home Network a very basic breakdown 2 UniFi AC Lite Access Points providing full coverage of home, and outside areas. Fully cabled house all terminated in a 48 port Cat6 panel and patched into a Cisco 3750. Inhouse cloud storage via Qnap 453+ 16tb also providing x...

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But bigger right?

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Hard to find a story with the whole rack in picture

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That actually looks so neat

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 9:47 PM

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my setup? Ikr

rocky badge Sep 30, 2018, 9:47 PM

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UniFi stories is nice

little schooner Sep 30, 2018, 9:49 PM

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I got some ideas from them

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They are pretty good

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But my server setup is a metal rack

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Err

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 9:50 PM

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mine is an ikea desk

little schooner Sep 30, 2018, 9:50 PM

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I'm actually not sure exactly to what call mine

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Umm

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It's like 3 shelves

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But metal

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 9:50 PM

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a rack

little schooner Sep 30, 2018, 9:50 PM

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The wires run behind it

hallow nimbus Sep 30, 2018, 9:51 PM

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Goodnight bitches

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😄

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 9:51 PM

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regarding unifi stories, try to put a patch panel inside a wall here

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nou @hallow nimbus

little schooner Sep 30, 2018, 9:51 PM

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It's like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018YLFJX4/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_tvuSBbZV1NN6H

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 9:52 PM

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the one they use for bitcoin mining

little schooner Sep 30, 2018, 9:52 PM

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I guess yeah

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There is a full sized atx computer case on first

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Standing tall

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Then shelves 2 and 3 after

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 9:52 PM

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lol make sure you don't overweight it

little schooner Sep 30, 2018, 9:53 PM

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Yeah I checked it was rated for about 500 pounds

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If anything mine is ghetto

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 9:54 PM

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also, do i have any chances to get my hands on that tiny rack i sent in the first pic? It was in my mom's old work office that moved to another one and since they have internet i guess they don't need it? There was also a 45U (i think) rack as well in the other room that is empty.

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since they have internet in the new office and they left this stuff here, they don't need it right?

little schooner Sep 30, 2018, 9:55 PM

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Look at my wirimg

📎 IMG_20180930_175456.jpg

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 9:55 PM

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better than mine

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that's not that bad

little schooner Sep 30, 2018, 9:56 PM

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Could be better I feel

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 9:56 PM

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edgerouter ErPoe -5?

little schooner Sep 30, 2018, 9:56 PM

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Yeah it was on sale

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 9:56 PM

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i have it too

little schooner Sep 30, 2018, 9:56 PM

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I think its overkill for me

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 9:57 PM

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ikr xD

little schooner Sep 30, 2018, 9:57 PM

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Because I only use port 1-2

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But hey it was cheaper

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Than the 3

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What were you talking about a 45u rack?

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Which picture

subtle glen Sep 30, 2018, 9:57 PM

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with what i have in mind i could use 3/4 of them. The problem is that i don't know how to config everything

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the small one with the 2 switches. I didn't take a pic of the 45U one