Go away blue
#networking
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xD
hallow nimbus
I will take 272 of those fibre's with me π
subtle glen
NAH
meager hazel
ill take 10
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oof, I messed up iptables
hallow nimbus
XD
subtle glen
but what if I steal all the condo's fiber?
None will use it
The few people I thought were going to use one of those fiber lines said they wont
The rest is all old people
Soooooo
subtle glen
Hahahaha
meager hazel
they dont look like fiber 2 me
meager hazel
they might be
subtle glen
I hope so
meager hazel
butttttt you dont coil fiber like that
subtle glen
The max I could get is like 30 mbps
Thats the first day of work in the bulding
It wasn't even terminated on the floors
subtle glen
What
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I messed up iptables
meager hazel
@subtle glen if they have just been installed then its fine but if there where being used they contractor or what ever should come back and redo it
meager hazel
lol
subtle glen
And the last floor of the bulding wont get fiber cause "the cable doesn't want to go in the conduit, we'll fix it later"
hallow nimbus
XD
meager hazel
they seem like grate contractors
thick minnow
i read your name as "backfrombrazil"
subtle glen
π€
thick minnow
tired..
subtle glen
Oh
hallow nimbus
XD
subtle glen
later that day, they told me the technicians added a white box on the fiber cable
Guess it's where they connect my house
hallow nimbus
And why le fuq is there tape on the cables
subtle glen
I actually dont know what all those power cables are
Some might be the one for the.light button
subtle glen
No.
When I told a guy in the palace that I had powerlines to have internet in the garage he told me " why dont you run fiber to it"
Wtf
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errr
subtle glen
It's not that easy and even if its a private road, can i open manholes?
@hallow nimbus That's fiber, dont make me jumpscare for nothing
hallow nimbus
XD
meager hazel
hallow nimbus
I tell you our coax cables look just like that
meager hazel
Its fiber just sitting there all tangled up
hallow nimbus
I mean the picture with all the white cables lmao
hallow nimbus
meager hazel
not the best position for fiber but i cant do much lol
subtle glen
Those seems to be boosters
meager hazel
@hallow nimbus na its coax half a lighting rod and some weird power terminations
subtle glen
For tv stuff
hallow nimbus
Our internet comes even over the coax line oof
meager hazel
ewwwww
subtle glen
The fiber cable is the one in the 3rd slot from the left, the one surrounded by copper phone lines
hallow nimbus
I mean i get 200/20 its better then that shit that backfromthedeath gets XD
hallow nimbus
Upgrades to 2Gbit
subtle glen
Lets see who laughs then xD
subtle glen
Ahhhhh
meager hazel
@hallow nimbus i like how its 200 down but 20 up
subtle glen
I have low ping
subtle glen
Mmmmmm
hallow nimbus
ISP
subtle glen
Hahahahaha
hallow nimbus
XD
meager hazel
its not
meager hazel
well to the server ur speed testing on
subtle glen
Here you can also get like 300/20 I remember
hallow nimbus
Whos idea was that
subtle glen
ISP
meager hazel
well there clearly dumb
hallow nimbus
Yup
subtle glen
My friend has ftth with only 100 mbps...
hallow nimbus
And i have spoken with my ISP why it is so low and that i wanted more XD
meager hazel
its the same over here OHHH YEHHH 200 DOWN BUT ONLY 10-20 UP !!!!! grate deal only 20 euro for the first 6 months there 60-100 after that
hallow nimbus
XD
subtle glen
Isp's put in my internet/phone plan a feature to see who's calling you without asking us
hallow nimbus
They wanted to save on upload so they increase download speeds later on
subtle glen
Its only 1+ euro but still
meager hazel
@hallow nimbus whats the point in 300 down when you cant get the data back to the server fast enough
subtle glen
I was even fine with it. I could see on the phone display and decline the call. But my mom got really upset about that and she removed that feature
hallow nimbus
Walks to custumer support hey can you upgrade me with 1000/1000 thanks bitch my house 20:00 tonight π
meager hazel
na i couldn't id kill some one with the stupid decisions they make here
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It's expensive lmao
subtle glen
We could make a lot of people happy
meager hazel
sure 100,000 euro plz
subtle glen
Aight
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And legal stuff you have to go through as well
subtle glen
Lets find someone to sponsor us
hallow nimbus
Begin with me first that you π
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hallow nimbus
I dont pay for static ip since i get one for free XD
subtle glen
Well some isp's make you pay more to have one
I don't see the point about doing that tho
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That's usually residential ISPs
subtle glen
Just give me a public ipv6 that is static
subtle glen
Like your connection??
subtle glen
Duh
hallow nimbus
Whats dat
hallow nimbus
Oh
subtle glen
Is one sea cable that can transfer 100 tbps enough for you mr. @hallow nimbus
hallow nimbus
No
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no
subtle glen
...
subtle glen
Ah sure
hallow nimbus
And i want 10 of those please
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My droplet has 16 assignable IPv6 addresses
hallow nimbus
For absolutly no fucking reason XD
subtle glen
Cause why not
hallow nimbus
^
subtle glen
Right?
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2604:a880:400:d1::8a8:2000 - 2604:a880:400:d1::8a8:200f
hallow nimbus
And send the bill to ryois please π
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NEIN
hallow nimbus
lmao
subtle glen
Hahahahhaha
hallow nimbus
English please @rocky badge
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hallow nimbus
π
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ooof
hallow nimbus
LMAO
hallow nimbus
XD
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subtle glen
Why do I remember 500
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Β―_(γ)_/Β―
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400/20 max
subtle glen
That 20 tho
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I dunno
rocky badge
It's only a $25/mo addon
subtle glen
I heard about rural areas making their own fiber network cause the isp wasn't going to spend money for them
Do it
subtle glen
A little bit expensive but not that much
subtle glen
Do you leave all your servers/network stuff on when you go on a vacation?
subtle glen
Ahhhhh
subtle glen
Add ready player one
hallow nimbus
Its for in home streaming
subtle glen
I've rented it already tho
hallow nimbus
So i dont put stress on the EU#1 server
rocky badge
Depends on what it is
meager hazel
@rocky badge I like the new site
subtle glen
So you shut down only less important stuff?
meager hazel
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oh
hallow nimbus
π
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ty π
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hallow nimbus
XD
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I didn't name it
meager hazel
mhm
subtle glen
what about eu1 only for you?
subtle glen
AHAHAHA
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xD
subtle glen
I wanted to share my fast connection with you, but in those circumstances..
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subtle glen
OOO
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Doesn any one even use CA#1
hallow nimbus
Not yet
subtle glen
I dont have it
hallow nimbus
Cause i am still uploading
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ah
subtle glen
He gave me eu1
hallow nimbus
CA is canada lol
hallow nimbus
But i need to have it on there
subtle glen
Also put it1
hallow nimbus
So i can sync it to others XD
subtle glen
π
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ooof
hallow nimbus
That canada server is the biggest one 24TB
π
So everything goes onthere
And then i share it with the rest
π
meager hazel
whats this?
subtle glen
I havent seen an italian server there
hallow nimbus
lmao
subtle glen
π
hallow nimbus
How about go fuck ur self and use EU#1 lmao
subtle glen
I'm tired of watching english stuff XD
hallow nimbus
I like english more then my native language lmao
subtle glen
Cause I'm not premium
hallow nimbus
Then ur phone sucks
subtle glen
Go away
subtle glen
I also have netflix ya know
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subtle glen
Also eu1
hallow nimbus
lmao
subtle glen
Too expensive
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My web site background is a YT thumbnail background lmao
hallow nimbus
Nono you can pay for it
π
If i got 20 euro from every person that was on it i could pay all my servers lmao
subtle glen
Do you accept gummy bears as payment methods
hallow nimbus
NEIN
subtle glen
Ahhh I'd like servers that can stay on 24/7 too
rocky badge
what
subtle glen
But I mean, if lurick has a full rack of servers and switches on 24/7 and doesn't pay a lot for it...
what
meager hazel
all down rly to your internet and power bill
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xD
subtle glen
The internet bill isn't a problem
I was thinking about 1/2 solar panels on the balcony
hallow nimbus
XD
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subtle glen
?
subtle glen
I like chrome
meager hazel
chrome likes ram and cpu
subtle glen
Badum tsss
hallow nimbus
Yes but i dont have spotify installed atm
hallow nimbus
Nope
hallow nimbus
Works
wintry flint
Does anyone have suggestions on a router for a college dorm room? I wouldn't imagine it would need very much range
fresh copper
I would recommend an AirCube (make sure not to get the ISP version which is not good)
subtle glen
How does it work there, do they put an ethernet jack into dorms rooms?
subtle glen
Switch @hallow nimbus
subtle glen
So you have an ethernet plug where you can plug in whatever you want?
Cool
You can make your personal network π
fresh copper
Yea, a lot of collages have ethernet ports in the dorms that expose public IPs. They are usually firewalled and dynamic so no hosting services. Sometimes the sysadmins are nice and will statically assign you an un-firewalled one.
hallow nimbus
Haxes systems gets unlmited bandwith and no blocked ports
thick minnow
Hey is this a decent price for cable or should I keep on looking. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F232371095273
thick minnow
It will be running through walls, loft and round the outside of the house
It will be used for a unifi network install iny home currently gigabit but with the view to begin upgrade to 10 gigabit in 18-24 months time
So donβt want to have to recable
hallow nimbus
Looks good to me
tidal crow
is it possible to set up an asus router as just an accsessport
subtle glen
Just disable dhcp
And you will probably have to connect it to the main router using a lan port, not the wan one
Oh btw @thick minnow that cable seems fine to me, it says it is made for outdoor use so I guess it's fine
thick minnow
Ok thankyou.
unreal wedge
@subtle glen condense messages.
subtle glen
Alright, haven't fully understand what that means tho
unreal wedge
Means send as few messages as possible while still getting your point across, like editing your messages, or getting your thoughts into one message before sending it.
Sending more than two messages at a time while no one else has responded gets spammy really fast.
subtle glen
Alright
fresh copper
Especially for some specific ways of viewing discord that donβt auto condense messages (from Dooley Labs):
https://dooleylabs.com/?q=q2x6ys.png
Iβm still not sure how he even makes it do that
unreal wedge
It's the compact theme so I don't have to see all these terrible profile pics.
remote kernel
You could set the pfps to display: none;
@unreal wedge
And still use normal mode
fresh copper
I wonder why compact does not auto concatenate, or have an option to auto concatenate. Iβm not sure I could use discord if it was not concatenated. I definitely see why itβs so annoying when people type things separately. Especially with a long name like mine
unreal wedge
Be great if Discord could merge spam posting with no replies in between that are sent within 10 mins of each other.
fresh copper
It basically does that in normal mode. It would be nice if it was 10min rather than the like 2 min it is now
I think these are two messages
And they show as one with a slightly larger space
unreal wedge
I'm aware, but that's not what I meant
fresh copper
My second ERX just came! Finally can send my stuff to to get coloed
fresh copper
?
Whatβs wrong with an ERX?
They are super cheap
Iβm really just using it as a gateway to the internet. My actual BGP routing will be done on a separate router
forest ice
Go PF or go home π
viscid juniper
@fresh copper Put a fan on it, it gets really hot.
high anchor
I heard you guys love server stuff
viscid juniper
Noiseeeeeeeee
high anchor
I didn't tried yet to run those 4 at the same time ^^
I will do it this afternoon although.
And I'll set them up as a Blender Render Farm and see how much time they need to render the BMW and the Classroom benchmark ^^
hallow nimbus
Erm i hope not that long Xd
high anchor
I've just finished the Gooseberry Benchmark, it tooks 15mins max to render (for a total render time of nearly 1h if it was done on a single server)
(each overlay was done by one server)
hallow nimbus
nice
fresh copper
Those ERXs do get hot but where I am mounting the one going in the DC there will be plenty of airflow. The one at home I attached some random intel stock heatsink to
inner trail
Guys, is it normal that my (not-yet) new ISP is prohibiting using own ONTs? Is it common practice?
And they've got 2 network equpiment configuration - ONT + modem, or modem with built in ONT... But the first configuration is only for existing users only.
And that modem with built in ONT cannont be configured as a bridge (sic!)
I mean - they're offering IPTV (streaming tv + channel zapping: VLAN ID=839, multicast; streaming vod, tv programme, clock on STB's display: VLAN ID=838, unicast) but I can do that with my own equpiment
Well - even my other router (in different location) support that (but with only one VLAN - but I don't need VOD, programme and clock)
pseudo ermine
Cant get any internet with usg pluged into sfp port on switch, any ideas?
inner trail
First of all - are you sure the USG isn't broken?
And that kind of stuff
No, jk - no idea
pseudo ermine
Lol its been working fine
inner trail
never trobuleshooted sth like that :/
fresh copper
Itβs weird that they donβt have a bridge mode on the ont/modem combo. It is extremely common for them to not allow you to use your own ont though
Itβs also weird they wonβt let you have just an ont
But I have only heard of one that would let you use your own ont
Usually they will let you use your own modem though so thatβs odd
inner trail
It's targeted to "Normal John" and they don't think about tech-savy ppl
But I mean - if they just would allow to use theirs ONT and publish a manual for setting up the IPTV (which VID and protocol) I would be in heaven
viscid juniper
@inner trail Can't you use your own and not tell them?
inner trail
MAC limiting
And.... they can fine you up to 500 PLN (~133 USD) for that if they find it out
viscid juniper
and there is no other ISP?
fresh copper
If you could just manage to talk to someone higher up and get them to manually authorize a different ont that would be awesome. Depends on the size of the ISP though. The chance of that happening here is basically none
inner trail
I mean, the ISP is called Orange, and they bought old TPSA (Which was kinda-government-founded)
TPSA had infrastructure everywhere (beacuse that was phone company which was the oldest) so they just upgraded it
and graffic, yes - now I'm client of ISP called "Multimedia Polska" and.... it sucks - 150 PLN (40 USD) for good packet of TV + HBO and (!) 10Mbps/1Mbps (!) coax
and the other ISPs are satelite or radio based
elfin gust
So, at my parents house I'll be mounting the isp modem outside of the house, like 5 meters away from house and the cable lenght from there to network rack inside house is like 20 meters (2 floors up, kinda middle the house)
The reason I'm doing this is bcz my parents hate when some random dude has to go inside to fix their mess and I'm tired of them complaining.. π
What do you guys think it'll be better, cat6 ou fiber (850nm) between these 2 ?
like future-proof and etc...
chrome hound
OM03 fiber would be better than copper, is it going in conduit?
clear igloo
BOOYAH!!!! Suck it FTP!
Finally got FTP over remote mount working, lol
Now I can write to a remote NAS mounted folder from a remote camera via FTP π
(doing it this way so I don't expose my NAS directly, and no I'm not using port 21 π )
wispy plover
@elfin gust just use copper. Make sure you have surge protection on both ends of the cable. There's no need to screw around with fiber for such a short run in a residential setting. I assume that this will be buried, so make sure you have something that's direct burial rated. If you can get a 1" conduit path from where the modem will be to that rack, you won't have to worry about animals chewing it, changing from outside-plant to inside-plant cabling, etc.
subtle glen
@clear igloo so that you can record security camera footage on a remote nas?
clear igloo
Pretty much, just using an intermediate server to do it
It was just one of those frustrating things that took me a couple hours to realize I had a / in the path that I didn't need
subtle glen
Lol just hours?
clear igloo
I was looking in the wrong place so I wasted a good bit of time doing that π
subtle glen
If I had to do something similar, it would have taken days
@wispy plover you don't need a special machine to add a connector to a fiber cable right?
elfin gust
@wispy plover Yes it will be buried, I was thinking about fiber bcz I wouldnt need surge protectors on both ends, since fiber doesnt carry electricity and my parents house will be on off grid solar system 6 months from now, also bcz if anything happens to modem and/or eth to fiber adapter its easy to replace and also very future proof for that house like 10g speeds with the right equipment using the same om03 fiber cable, also, thank you for your answer, maybe I'll just do copper, we have some cat5e laying around (talked to my dad today and he has some there)
subtle glen
Wait why do you need a surge protector? In case a lightning strikes the ground where the cable is buried?
fringe wyvern
if lightning strikes anywhere before or after your local distributor it will still affect you, not to mention no power grid is perfect, over here the UK you can still get the odd surge or power dip
subtle glen
not if you have something like this on your electrical/tv/phone line
edgy seal
Networking crowd, who here knows if a switch with a wifi uplink exists? I'm unable to get ethernet in my room at my new apartment and need something faster than my current powerlines.
(Wifi is really fast in my room, even faster than powerline or directly wired into the router with a super long cable that I tested, for some reason)
unreal wedge
It sounds very doable.
edgy seal
Doable? As in i'd have to cobble it together myself? Could one perhaps use pfSense?
or similar router distribution?
fresh copper
Itβs Dooley Doable
I have not heard of a switch with built in wifi uplink. What you want to do is get a wifi bridge and connect that to the switch. Some wifi routers can do this but you can also get a dedicated device. Probably just search it up on amazon or something. If you want something fancy (and expensive) then any of the 5ghz airmax stuff will do it but you donβt need it if you already get good wifi performance.
There are ways to do it yourself. Pfsense with a wifi card could do it, as could a normal wifi router with OpenWRT or similar (although itβs a bit weird). Other options are also available but I recommend just getting a wifi bridge. There are a ton of cheep ones on amazon, just make sure it supports the speed you need.
subtle glen
this should be a wireless network switch.
or get something like this to "convert wifi into ethernet" and then connect a switch. I still recommend a direct cable from router to your room. if that's slower than the wifi then there is a problem
lunar thicket
Is their any tips on how to boost the upload spped on my WiFi? (Virgin Media)? Thanks!
subtle glen
Get a better access point/ change wifi channel
inner trail
Use 5Ghz if u can
wispy plover
@elfin gust cat6 will do 10G over that length no problem. But fiber does allow you to avoid surge suppression, but you need SFPs and fiber capable equipment on both ends now.
@subtle glen surge suppression is for lightning strikes, yeah. It will find any path to ground it can. You want to protect the equipment on both ends.
@edgy seal Panther best bet is to use a wireless bridge feeding a switch.
elfin gust
uhm... nice... I totally forgot about cat6 10g capability...
sfp and fiber isnt really troble for me, since the only thing I need to buy first hand to support the 10g speeds is the fiber cable itself, sfp and adapter I can buya cheap 100mbps for now...
thank you for your inputs, I'll talk to my dad and decide π
barren bough
Hey I was wondering if anyone here could help me with some networking troubles I am having. So I built a new router with an old Dell OptiPlex and a four port gigabit intel NIC, and it has been fine so far. I even managed to get squid proxy server working to enable caching. but now the issue I am having is whenever I open warframe it shows a message that it needs UDnP or NAT (it will still run but kind of strange with really high ping sometimes). Now I do know where the settings are for it and I went in and enabled it but whenever I launch it gives me a slightly different error that says that UDnP is not working correctly (See screenshot).I'll be honest I don't really know how to configure it so I was wondering if any of you knew. I know the ports I need to open up and I know the IP of the PC I plan on playing on.
subtle glen
If I want to run an eth cable that will be in a conduit with a lot of power cables, I should go fiber right? Also to avoid any troubles I would say
inner trail
@barren bough First of all - UPnP (Universal Plug and Play) - second - do you use some kind of "router-oriented" distro or what is it?
barren bough
oh yeah sorry I forgot to mention I am using PFsense
inner trail
Can you give us screenshoot from "Services" > UPnP & NAT-PMP?
(from webinterface, I guess)
barren bough
There is the current config that I tried to get working, tbh I have no idea what I am doing with UPnP
inner trail
Maybe it's problem with ACL entries?
barren bough
that's what I suspected but that was a stab in the dark that I took based off the example
inner trail
try allowing it for the entire subnet
allow 4950-4955 192.168.1.0/24 4950-4955
you can also try
allow 1024-65535 192.168.1.0/24 1024-65535
Dunno, never used PFSense
Aaaaaand - Have you tried rebooting it?
barren bough
yeah i tried rebooting it and restarting the service
Both of those didn't work, do you know of anyone in particular in the discord who has experience with PFsense?
inner trail
Nope (I don't know anyone besides two of the mods here, lol)
fresh copper
@subtle glen I donβt know about where you live but where I live you are not allowed to put fiber in the same conduit as power lines (no idea why). If itβs ok in the electrical code then fiber would be best. Avoids issues with interference and anything where the isolation fails or there is a lightning strike etc.
@barren bough I am sure people on the r/homelab discord would be able to help. I donβt think I can post an invite link but itβs not too hard to find
barren bough
Ah thank you, will do, do you think I would also find more help on the forums? (I think there is a networking topic if I remember correctly)
subtle glen
@fresh copper isp's run fiber cables into electrical conduits/substations here. I'll look if the wiring code allows you to run such cables into electrical conduits even tho I would just buy a 100 mt fiber cable with the connectors on it already to avoid any problem. I don't even know if I can do such a thing here or If I have to ask permission to the building administrator. The cable would have to go into the conduits/manholes that bring power to the garages. (From my house, down into the power room/into a series of pipes and manholes to my garage)
fresh copper
If ISPs do it then you probably can too. Usually the electrical code has exemptions for basic stuff done by a homeowner. Even then, you can probably just do it and the chance of anyone complaining is very low
G Suit is so nice
high anchor
π
(Thanks Steamcache ^^' When your bottleneck is your CPU and your drive)
barren bough
What CPU do you have?
@fresh copper first of all, why, second of all, how because I want it right now even though it wouldn't make sense for me (I'm guessing work?)
high anchor
@barren bough a 4790K at 4.4GHz on all cores
barren bough
Oh and I just realized that I guess you have a full gigabit connection? If so, nice, I'm still rocking the max 220 down and 20 up my ISP has where I'm at
high anchor
No, I just use a caching server to have a higher download speed when I redownload a game. The main issue is that compression they use on Origin (and also Steam) causes my CPU to max out and even my SSD can't keep up when on writing speed
barren bough
Ah I see, how do you do your caching? I've been experimenting with squid on pfsense but I was wondering if there what the other methods were.
high anchor
I'm using steamcache (with their dns server) on one of my PowerEdge R510. (I though that LTT had already uploaded the video about it but it's still a FP exclusive ^^')
barren bough
Oh so it's like a separate PC on the network that you can have your router redirect downloads to that caches frequently downloaded games?
And I'm guessing you would set steam as your primary DNS as your primary DNS and any other DNS service as your secondary?
high anchor
It's way more simple than it, there is a DNS server that redirects every download requests from Steam/Origin/Battle.net to some caching server running on my server.
So if I want to redownload a game/download an update on a second PC, the client just get files from my server (and so is downloading at max 1Gbit/s)
barren bough
Oh that's wild, and is it it's own os or could it live on say another ubuntu server machine I have running?
high anchor
I'm running it on a Debian server with some Docker container : https://github.com/steamcache/generic
(Just wait a day or two, LTT made a video about it and it's still a FP exclusive atm)
barren bough
Ah true, i guess there is an LTT video on it coming
high anchor
The only thing to do is just changing your DNS (at the client side or directly on your router) so everything goes through your server (if you don't have IPv6 on your network...)
barren bough
I actually have an old PC with a phenom x4 955 and a whack ton of SATA ports that I was trying to figure out what to do with, this will do quite well
high anchor
If you have multiple gaming PCs at home, it would be definitely useful (I may use my server for PUBG updates on my laptop to always be ready on the go and also for LAN parties, as it allows everyone to download a game at the full available download speed, which is useful when you have a small download speed and 4 PCs that need to install the same game ^^)
barren bough
I build PCs for people (mostly friends and friends of friends) and I usually preinstall a few games I know they will play (e.g. overwatch, Battlefield 1, etc.) And this would be so helpful
high anchor
It would definitely be helpful for you yeah ^^
fresh copper
@barren bough
I donβt really have a why, I donβt need that much itβs just infinite storage which apparently equals 2pb.
As for the how, you get infinite storage is you have five or more users on the $10/user/month G Suit but no one actually checks even if you just have one user (as I do). I know some people that have 20tb up there.
I guess it is technically work as I have my work email though there but itβs definitely something a normal person could afford. Itβs just the price of a domain and then $10/mo (as you donβt really need more than one user).
chrome tinsel
i just bought a 100$ 50ft cat6 cable π
proper shard
I have a AntRouter that's connected to my cisco switch and the counsole login and the wifi login passwords are extremely strong.... but as the same time I was wondering if I should be worried about my network and what are the different ways that I can secure my network? Any kind of help would be greatlty appreciated.
hushed dome
what do you think about this switch?
https://www.fs.com/de/products/29122.html?currency=EUR&paid=google_shopping&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0JbUzr_33AIVg6gYCh1CHA2pEAkYBCABEgJ1xfD_BwE
pls fo @hushed dome
old vale
high anchor
Hey @barren bough, we talked about it yesterday, the video is up : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk1eKPRLaJA
barren bough
Awesome thank you!
gentle siren
Yay! I actually have a use for the Cancer Stickβ’ at an event!
Apparently we're borrowing some WiFi from about 1100 feet away.
muted timber
Hey about the new video with the caching server? Would that also work for streaming media services like YouTube, Amazon Prime and Netflix? - thinking specifically in the case of a house with slower internet but where a lot of people would be watching the same set of shows and movies
rocky badge
Netflix has something like that for ISPs, OpenConnect Boxes, I don't know about YouTube and Amazon Prime
fresh copper
The netfix caching requirements are crazy
muted timber
Yeah I heard about them, have to be installed at ISP level though, wouldn't work for an instance where you're at the end of the "Last Mile" and can only get like 3mbps or something
fresh copper
Google does not do them, they just peer at any DC where they are located
Not sure about amazon
Apple does not do them
I know someone who runs an IX so they did all the research on if they could install any of these. Right now they are getting a root DNS and maybe peering with one elsewhere in the DC.
Netflix wants 1.2G transit per cache. Speedtest.net wants even more
rocky badge
Speedtest likes 10Gbps but 5 and 1Gbps are ok for smaller servers
fresh copper
Yea
fresh copper
I love IPv6. Makes my life so much easier.
rocky badge
The ISP should be ready for 5 Gbps of peak traffic
But 1.2Gbps inbound
2-4 10Gbps Ethernet in LACP LAG
muted timber
In instances where the ISP isn't bottlenecked but instead your actual internet connection is, wonder would a caching server like linus showed off work for YT/Netflix or only steam and websites etc?
wispy plover
@fresh copper where do you live that it's not okay? It's fine per the US NEC as long as it's non-armored and has nothing that could become energized.
There's a fiber product out there called AlumaCore where it's fiber buried in a ground wire used for getting connectivity between substations.
fresh copper
Iβm in Canada. It may be that it is ok but the fiber company said they canβt.
fresh copper
Also, I did not note above but there technically is a solution for apple cacheing. Thatβs apps, software updates, iTunes content, and even iCloud content. You can run a cacheing server on macOS with the server app. If you put one on your lan it will automatically work on the lan with no extra config. There is also a way for ISPs to do it but itβs a bit more complex on their end. I did not mention it before because it wonβt work for IXPs
gentle siren
Does anyone know if residential fiber connections terminate in LC?
hardy kestrel
LC?
gentle siren
I might be moving to the San Francisco Bay Area, meaning I can finally get a residential fiber connection. Problem is I'm not used to dealing in residential, and what I am used to working with is more...enterprise and industrial.
hardy kestrel
Oof wrong channel
hardy kestrel
Why does YouTube on my PC automatically goes to 240p and goes up to 360p only on auto :/
My PC, and Internet is capable of 1080p (Not 4K)
clear igloo
@gentle siren Most fiber installs that I've seen are a single strand SC connector to the ONT so depending on who the ISP is you might get an LC cable but probably not π¦
I know AT&T and Verizon both use single strand for their connections to the ONT
subtle glen
is there a major difference between them?
rose ridge
Oh my GOD I've configured the port forwarding and the firewall to my server and it's still timing out incoming connections from my public IP outside of my network!
wispy plover
@gentle siren call the ISP and ask? The ISP usually lands the fiber into its own equipment and then provides you copper.
languid crest
I've got two options
Either 100mbps for 100gb per month (additional 40 GB voucher)(Free for 3 months)
Or
3mbps unlimited 3 months paid(My current connection)
fresh copper
Ouch. 100gb is not very much. But 3mbps is so slow as well. It would be nice if there was a middle of the road option.
ornate jungle
Ummmmm are you sure it's not 100mbps with 1000GB of data? Cause if it's only 100GB data for a home internet connection at 100mbps, your ISP is on glue.
sturdy mirage
I personally use 3.mbps Wan connection, it's fine Γ long as you are not on wifi at least for gaming...
subtle glen
There is no way I can run an ethernet cable in there without having any issue :/
Too many power cables
subtle glen
I'm a little bit worried about adding a connector to it. I've read that for certain connectors, you don't need special tools and stuff so it should be fine.
pseudo blade
If you want fiber, buy it pre-terminated.
subtle glen
100 meters of cable should be fine. It's around 10meters from my house to the power room. Then once in there it has to go in that cable rail from the top of the picture to the bottom and then to the garage. I cant buy it pre-terminated, it wont go into the conduit
gaunt forge
Can someone I am trying to setup a cache server for Steam, Origin, Riot Games, Battle.net, Frontier Launchpad, Uplay and Windows update. But I can't get the DNS server to work properly. The attachment is a screenshot from powershell. All the Docker containers it running. Thanks in advance.
fresh copper
Itβs cool that people are doing this cacheing stuff now. Makes me want to put back up my caches. I wonder if I can convince Google to send me one of their caches, I am going to peer with them anyway so thatβs good enough now.
Anyway, as to the issue. Iβm not entirely sure on the issue but things to check, make sure that IP, 192.168.1.10 is the IP of the steamcache-dns container. Make sure steamcache-dns is configured with the IPs of the cacheing containers. Also make sure that those IPs are on the same subnet as your computer. You should be able to find your computers IP with ipconfig command. Make sure the all the numbers but the last are the same.
Thatβs all I can think of at the moment. If those donβt work then I am not sure. They said on the forms that they had issues with Uplay cacheing but that is probably not the issue here
gaunt forge
Yearh. I can ping all the IPs (and they replay within 1ms). Steamcache-dns is running on the main IP (192.168.1.10). I have tryed to restart the network service and do a reboot but it doesn't seam to fix my problem, saddy π¦
fresh copper
Interesting
Iβm not sure what your issue could be. Sorry. Maybe try a port scan on that IP to see if it is listening at all? DNS is UDP so that would not work
high anchor
I had the same issue @gaunt forge but I can't remember what was the reason...
Oh yeah, did you used the ifup command to add your new interfaces ?
If not, just run ifup *interface* and it should work
fresh copper
He mentioned that he could ping them so I am assuming they are up. Worthwhile to check though
inner trail
What's the difference between cat. 5e, and 6? The "maximum length"?
clear igloo
Max data rate
Cat6 does 10Gbps up to 55m iirc and 1Gbps to 100m (like Cat5e) but Cat6a can do 10Gbps to 100m
subtle glen
Cat 6 are more likely to be shielded as well (just the whole cable or even the single pairs)
Some cat5 e are shielded aswell
fresh copper
The above information is correct. Example from my own experience. The cat5e that I use for my personal stuff has no shielding, itβs just the twisted pairs and the outside insolation. The cat6 I use for work has half the pairs shielded from the other half
inner trail
Well - 5e F/UTP cables are good enough for home network, where the max cable length will be somewhere around... 15m?
fresh copper
Depends. Like I have one 60m run of cat5e and the rest are probably like 10cm. cat5e is fine for 1G and can even do 10G at short lengths even though it is out of spec. Never had issues with cat5e before. I use cat6 for clients for a number of reasons, not that they need it. I never use 10GBase-T always 10GBase-LR for them but I suppose there are some specific situations where I would use 10GBase-T
sand jackal
@fresh copper Our use cases of 10GBase-T here is switch-to-switch link and link aggregation over short distances (<10m)
but we prefer to use 10GBase-LR when it's possible
even directly to the end servers
viscid juniper
Does anyone crimp their own fiber optic cables? I have some cabling pipes, I can run a cat6 cable but fiber with connectors I see it difficult.
gritty owl
creating custom fiber cables is really hard. You need proper tools to make sure the end is clean and a certifier to make sure the connection is good
sturdy mirage
keep in mind that an LC connector is Really small.. check the Wikipedia page for exact size but 4mm by 6mm is fairly small..
gaunt forge
@fresh copper & @high anchor
I have tryed to re-install my VM and every think work as it should expet the SteamCache-DNS container, it keeps restarting for some reason. I have attached a log file from the container. I hope someone cane help me.
high anchor
Now I remember what the issue is, they renamed the Windows Update service
You have to put WSUSCACHE_PORT instead of WINDOWSCACHE_PORT
See the issue : https://github.com/steamcache/steamcache-dns/issues/40
@gaunt forge
gaunt forge
Thanks a lot!
high anchor
You're welcome :)
I had the exact same issue but I didn't remembered what it was ^^'
subtle glen
fiber is coming π
They also added a cabinet so I guess they just have to connect the building
fresh copper
Nice!
fresh copper
I hope Linus has not just ruined G Suit for all of us. Technically you can still get the unlimited storage even with just one $10/mo user. They never check for some reason. It would be sad for all the data hoarders with 100TB+ up there. I donβt have much myself as I am waiting to send over some drives to my colo so I can get high enough upload speed to even hit 750GB/day.
tropic basin
[ptw6y7ui
viscid juniper
@fresh copper I though they had a 1TB limit if you have less than 5 users :?
subtle glen
i was hoping to see a "building 2 others storinators and deploying them in my home server room" but nope
fresh copper
@viscid juniper they say they have that limit but they donβt actually limit it. The limit never shows in drive or anything and you can just keep uploading stuff. Theoretically in the future Google could come in and put the limit back and send us all angry emails but people have been doing this for years.
elfin socket
Anyone here have experience with EZ-RJ45 / Passthrough RJ-45 termination tools and plugs? thinking about getting my own set. Current wirestuff shark is a bit of a pain
fresh copper
Never used them myself but from what I understand, the main benefit is you donβt have to worry about stripping off the exact right amount of insulation, you just cut off more than you need and then the excess is cut off later.
I believe that the crimp tool is the exact same for both
subtle glen
it is the same
fresh copper
Here is another interesting thing about G Suit, besides the 750gb limit or whatever it is, you can only upload two files at one time and the max file size is 10TB. Whatβs interesting is that once you hit the daily limit the two files will continue uploading. This means that you could theoretically upload 20TB a day as long as it was split into 10TB files. What would be nice if if you could unzip files in the cloud so that you could actually abuse this.
inner trail
Are you drunk dude?
brittle mural
@unreal wedge
high anchor
Probably a packet that got lost between routers and ended here
fresh copper
Some weird version of base64 maybe?
fresh copper
There is probably a once in a lifetime of the universe chance of it happening
subtle glen
i dont think that guy was online when he sent those messages
clear igloo
Errors might occur due to cosmic radiation and cause device to reset
rocky badge
π
clear igloo
parity error caused by cosmic radiation :P
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/routers/asr-9000-series-aggregation-services-routers/211255-Parity-errors-seen-on-ASR9k.html
subtle glen
oh so it was not a joke
clear igloo
No, it's real, lol
fresh copper
Itβs real, and happens every now and again, thatβs one of the things ecc ram is for
inner trail
But... It's rare, really f rare
fresh copper
Yea
pseudo ermine
esxi 6 compatible with a 960 evo?
rocky badge
Yes
fresh copper
Two logo changes in about 15 min. I liked the one with all the colors best
subtle glen
i like the original one
elder hazel
π€€ππ¦ my new baby lol
umbral ruin
those hard drives look so wrong... not used to seeing a hitachi style label on a WD.
fresh copper
That a lot a terabytes. My largest drive is 8TB and everyone thought I was crazy. I think one of my clients has some 10TB ones but thatβs not really my job so I donβt know for sure
elder hazel
This is gonna take a while copy the 3.82tb from my dying 4TB drive to the 12TB
inner trail
Isn't "cp -R (old) (new)" the worst idea ever? What about file permissions, and stuff?
And fstab for example
elfin socket
@elder hazel
WANT.
What temps do you usually run these at?
Backblaze temp to falure rate charts are completely useless to someone not working in enterprise since they dont go over 32 C
elder hazel
at 29c rn with data being copied to it @elfin socket
Just have it in a my dell optiplex 990 witch is my file server with its fans are at maxs rn to keep it cool while copying
lean pollen
I think this channel name should be changed to "Networking and servers" or something
Because that what it really is.
viscid juniper
@lean pollen networking, servers and storage.
inner trail
Networking, servers, storage, cloud, and linux would be good
fresh copper
Networking, servers, storage, cloud, linux, and fiber
buoyant badger
viscid juniper
Nice to hear your voices π
inner trail
Networking, servers, storage, cloud, linux, fiber and ISP-related things
viscid juniper
servers include cloud and linux, networking includes fiber π
inner trail
Servers =/= linux
fresh copper
I agree, what about those that use Linux normally
Servers β linux
Or more formally
Linux β servers
Linux servers β servers
gentle siren
When networking and live broadcast collide.
Because when you're doing it live, aesthetics are secondary.
proper kindle
So i bought a laptop, it doesnt have a ethernet port, but whats the diffrence between a TB3 and USB 3.0/1 adapter
lean pollen
One is thunderbolt and another is USB 3.0/1
rocky badge
Wouldn't thunderbolt use actual lanes? 
lean pollen
USB 3.0/1 adapter can be used on a port that is TB3, but a TB3 adapter can not be used on USB 3.0/1. I think?
Thunderbolt 3 have more data bandwidth I think?
rocky badge
it does
proper kindle
so a TB3 it is?
clear igloo
For gigabit ethernet, doesn't matter much.
proper kindle
wait, wat? a TB3 in a USB 3.1?
clear igloo
TB3 supports USB3.0/3.1 standard as well
I can't type today x.x
Go with USB 3.0/3.1 since you can use it in the TB3 port if needed
plucky marlin
So I have a number of wifi APs around my house. Some 2.4GHz, some 5GHz, some N, some AC. Some everything, etc. Currently (and for a LOOONG time) I've been using them all called specific things and switching manually.
I would LOVE to be able to have them all called the same thing and the connected devices automatically switch to the correct device for its specification and - more importantly - it's connection quality. How difficult is it to do that, and how would I go about it? I have pfSense as my router if it's capable of managing it somehow.
viral agate
You can just set the SSID's and passwords to be the same thing, and they will switch between APs, but it won't be seamless, you need something like a Cloud Key to handle handoff
clear igloo
Yah, you need a controller to handle the handoff between APs
viral agate
I just use it without handoff and wait for it to reconnect, as it gets the job done.
karmic tundra
@elder hazel May I ask what do you plan on storing on your 12tb hdd
plucky marlin
Yeah, I tried with all SSIDs being the same, but it never worked right and you couldn't just select the right one, you'd have to disable and re-enable your wifi.
What is thia handoff controller that I'd need and how do I set it up?
elder hazel
@karmic tundra I use it for Movie tv shows and my shit tons of gopro and phone photos / videos etc I have lots of video ive recorded for my trash youtube and lots of NV shodowplay videos
thick minnow
@karmic tundra who made your logo
sand jackal
I you don't want to spend $100 on a UniFi cloud key, you can setup a permanent UnIFi controller on a Raspberry Pi/whatever debian-based system
Ubiquiti products are really good products, I use tons of them at home
thick minnow
what is the best way to passthrough multiple web servers from my home network? would a proxy server be the best way?
latent badger
Yes, a proxy server is a good way to solve that.
nginx is great for proxy use, and very simple to configure aswell
You could also use Apache2 with the mod_proxy addon
thick minnow
is NGINX free for hobby use?
latent badger
Yes, nginx is free for all use. (they have some enterprise support plans, but that is not what you want)
thick minnow
sturdy mirage
?
sturdy mirage
no pb :3
karmic tundra
@thick minnow Unfortunately i forgot who it was
subtle glen
@fresh copper By doing some researches, i found out that in the POP (which is a normal electrical substation where they added fiber equipment), ISP's put their expansion cards to be able to use the fiber line and route their traffic. Then in the PFS (that is connected to 250 houses), your cable is labelled with name and surname so the physical connection to an ISP is in there, they simply swap your fiber cable from an ISP module to another. If you are interested here is a page that explains everything about how they do it, just translate it https://www.tomshw.it/tutti-segreti-ftth-open-fiber-vodafone-1-gbps-87201
hallow nimbus
and now english please
subtle glen
no
fresh copper
Thanks @subtle glen! Thatβs really interesting
subtle glen
btw the company replied to the email, they just didn't answer to my questions.
You are welcome
fresh copper
Companies not actually answering the questions. Thatβs a first
subtle glen
fresh copper
My ARIN request for ipv4 for my exchange is going well. Now they are asking for a signed officer attestation form confriming the ipv4 request is legitimate. They have done this every time I have had a request for v4 before so itβs looking good
thick minnow
What does DHCP IP Reservation do?
subtle glen
i think it's something like the dhcp server keeps an ip reserved for a certain device
inner trail
DHCP IP reservation ensures that, DHCP will give the same IP to specified MAC - always
It's good for things like having server in the network, or some services that you need access to w/o looking for the good IP (like VNC)
@subtle glen - "cooper wires" - like just plain old electrical wire that's running in the walls of your house?
subtle glen
wut
inner trail
I heard that the military has technology like this
subtle glen
mmmm better off go fiber
inner trail
I mean - not 10Gbps, but something like 100Mbps
But you know - when you're on the fild, you probably wont run a fiber
subtle glen
yeah
inner trail
field*
subtle glen
100 mbps or even 300 is kinda common over copper
lol if that 10 gbps over copper was a thing where do i sign up
inner trail
But realisticly speaking you dont need 10Gbps in your home (I mean to the world, HOME -> HOME 10Gbps is good)
subtle glen
i could host few friends with that 10gbps tho
inner trail
I would be too scared to host anything on my home network
subtle glen
even tho i would never saturate it i still want that
lol
i'm not an expert but i think you need good protections when doing this kind of stuff
inner trail
If you would trust everyone that you're hosting - probably not
And know they wont host some hardcore porn/anything copyright protected
Orrr... host a TOR relay/endgate
Orrr... shit there's a lot of things to consider
subtle glen
if you do it at a public level it's a yes for sure. Also you need to open ports and stuff on the router
and now i'm wondering how do hosts protect themself if they have to open ports and make rules into firewalls
inner trail
Depends on what they host
If they're hosting web stuff - they just open 80, and 443, nothing else
subtle glen
lets say a mc server where 25565 needs to be open
wispy plover
@inner trail No, category cabling.
inner trail
James, what are we talking about?
subtle glen
the 10gbps copper?
inner trail
Oh, the 10Gbps copper?
wispy plover
Yes, you asked if it was like the plain electrical copper in your house.
inner trail
But... isn't the CAT6 cables capable of 10Gbps?
wispy plover
Not to me, but I didn't see that answer be given to you.
subtle glen
yea i didnt understand the answer
wispy plover
Cat6 can do 10G ethernet for around 30m (100 foot) or so.
subtle glen
and then there is fiber: 100tbps over km
wispy plover
I know my conversion isn't exact, it's not meant to be exact since there isn't realistically a hard limit.
inner trail
Back to the discussion - If you're MC server hoster, you open 25565 (and some others, like I dunno - rcon port (does MC have RCON?)) and nothing else
subtle glen
but doesn't that port becomes "vulnerable"?
inner trail
Vulnerable to what?
subtle glen
i don't know. attacks of any kind?
inner trail
I mean - if there's a RCE (Remote Code Execution) or and kind of exploit for MC servers - then yes, it does
subtle glen
and can you put a firewall over it?
inner trail
I don't know any attacks that benefit from open, but not listening ports
I mean - some kind of filtration for sure
I was "not-offically-support" for a TS3 hosting, we (To be exact - "Our" hosting) were filtering invalid packets
I dunno how that was working, but it worked somehow
subtle glen
π€
inner trail
I mean - ask "Hosteam" (Polish company)
subtle glen
maybe this is going to be enough to protect 25565
inner trail
They're filtering ports: 9987 30033 10011 (and "normal ports"(?))
fresh copper
Minecraft actually does have RCON and itβs really weird. I had a client who wanted me to open the βMinecraft RCONβ port on the firewall I put in. I think the guyβs kid was running the server or something because it seemed a bit weird for the type of company.
high anchor
Just installed a new pfSense VM (for a personal VPN), and I don't know how I remembered the default password... As the last time I had to setup a pfSense was months ago...
The uninteresting 3AM fact
fresh copper
Itβs admin pfsense right? Itβs been a while since I used pf after I started migrating to VyOS
high anchor
Yeah that's it, I was thinking about what it was and at the same time I started to type the password like in an automated way
high anchor
Just tested my pfSense VPN, the Speedtest shows a very small overhead, which is a great news (as I'll redirect everything that goes from my network through this VPN)
With the VPN : http://www.speedtest.net/result/7586845335
Without : http://www.speedtest.net/result/7586850413
edgy seal
I decided to look for 10gbe switches on ebay just now, since I'll be buying them at some point in the future, and my search has led me to great confusion. I'm finding a lot of switches that seem to good to be true that use terms like "cluster switch" in the listing. Can I find a legit, no gotchas, no cluster or blade crap 10gbe SFP switch with at least 4 SFP ports and ideally some RJ45 Gigabit ports to go along with it for under $350, used?
latent badger
That is probably doable
4 SFP+ ports?
I know there are a lot to choose from with for example 2x SFP+ in the cheap range.
For example, Juniper EX4200. Old switch, but a very good switch. I found one for under $100 on eBay with 2x10Gbit/s SFP+ module.
Take note that the 10gig on that switch is an accessory, so you would need to either buy one with the module pre-installed or buy one seperate.
quasi isle
ex4200 are some nice switches
we still have 10 of them at our location in use
latent badger
Yeah, but since they are EOL there are quite a lot of them for cheap on the internet.
The same is true for the EX4500, which is 40x10Gbit/s, but that one is a bit less available because of a very bad fault on the PSU where they die after a while.
Oh, and if you want something newer you could probably look into Mikrotik. Their brand new CRS328-4C-20S-4S+RM has 4x SFP+ and is MSRP at $369 brand spanking new.
(Or the CRS328-24P-4S+RM might be more suitable if you dont want 20xSFP cages)
Or even better, CRS317-1G-16S+RM and you get 1 x Gigabit LAN and 16 x SFP+ cages
A bit more expensive ofcourse, $399
clear igloo
@edgy seal That's a Fabric Interconnect, I wouldn't mess with that. It's main purpose is for the interconnection of Cisco UCS boxes with storage and the main network
edgy seal
ok
fresh copper
I just got peered with Google which is cool
inner trail
Theoretical question: How hard would it be for me to by my own ISP?
Or I dunno - By ISP for my really small (about 100-250 ppl small) town
hallow nimbus
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
edgy seal
what in god's name
the 10gbe module is almost as much as the switch itself
combined they're $300
yeah im not finding any cheap modules out there
only uplinks but that's not what I need
https://www.amazon.com/D-Link-Systems-SmartPro-Stackable-DGS-1510-28X/dp/B00MCZNW5G/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1535485038&sr=8-7&keywords=10gbe+switch like ok here's a d-link switch that has basically exactly what I need. ticks all the boxes for me: 4 10gbe sfp+ ports, enough rj45 gigabit ports, level 3 routing (although that is a nice) to have, not a must. the only thing is that it's new and therefore expensive. can I just have this in an older, and cheaper model?
edgy seal
alright, I found this module/switch combo for about $160 total. the switch is http://www.ebay.com/itm/123289279178 and the module is http://www.ebay.com/itm/382208753261. Will these work together and is the module an uplink?
clear igloo
@inner trail Depends on how much you're willing to pay upfront and if you want to do wired or wireless (WISP)
subtle glen
for your isp you mean having a normal isp subscription plan and broadcast internet to other people that pay you?
subtle glen
oh ok cause laying down a cable to an exchange point would be expensive (if that's how you become an ISP)
subtle glen
LaNguAgE!!
rocky badge
It would be wayyy more expensive and probably too expensive to justify
inner trail
I mean - I don't want to DO IT, I know how much trouble would it be
hallow nimbus
I want my own cable to a exchange point to have 40 gbit or more π
subtle glen
like permission to dig trenches
rocky badge
Not necessary
subtle glen
no blue, you stick with coax
rocky badge
You can be a WISP
rocky badge
Actually...
subtle glen
there are isp's here that offer wireless internet. They come over to mount an antenna and that's it
rocky badge
You can do theoretical 1.4Gbps with a max range of 13km
subtle glen
20 mbps is enough for you
subtle glen
@inner trail how would you do that isp stuff?
inner trail
I dunno - I'm trying to find someone who knows tho
subtle glen
i mean i guess you need a switch to limit bandwith and stuff
rocky badge
You'd need IP addresses, a ton of bandwidth, good equipment, time and patience, etc
If you're gonna supply 100-225 people... XD
hallow nimbus
Ip addresses no problem every one is only allowed to use 1 device π
subtle glen
use nat
rocky badge
Public IP addresses
subtle glen
at the client house
inner trail
And getting an IPv4 assigned to someone new, is pratically imposibble, right?
rocky badge
give everyone public IP addresses....not a NAT IP lmao
subtle glen
pfff
rocky badge
Pppoe can be used
fresh copper
You could theoretically create a very basic IPv6 only ISP for only a few hundred dollars plus transit, colo, and any last mile (the most expensive, often requiring a minimum of $1500/mo for last mile resellers). It gets very expensive very quickly though
fresh copper
You can get v4 in a number of ways. LIRs in the RIPE area get a /22. ARIN has 4.10 space if you do IPv6. There are some other things too
I am technically my own ISP at the moment. It cost me a few hundred dollars and maybe 30/mo. I peer with Google, Cloudflare, Iβm at a couple exchanges too. The only thing is that I donβt have v4 and I donβt have a good way to get it to my house other than VPN tunnels. My server that I am sending out to Fremont 2 will get it though
inner trail
Isn't it how it's done?
subtle glen
without using trenches
inner trail
I mean - Orange PL is doing excatly that
subtle glen
here they did a mix of adding their own manholes/using power manholes and trenches
inner trail
You guys think that TP-Link 8p T1500G-8T (L3 managed switch with 8gigabit ports, and poe in[which I won't use]) would be enough for home traffic (will use 7 of 8 ports)
fresh copper
Itβs probably fine. I would get some extra ports in case you upgrade at some point but managed switches can get expensive
inner trail
That's the T1500G-8T main selling point - It's not so expensive
chrome hound
ebay
inner trail
T1500G-8T is 250 PLN which is around 70 USD
It's hard for me to find something good on ebay
chrome hound
really?
inner trail
Most of the "managed" one doesnt say anything about it in the description - is it L2/L3 some "smart web" bullshit kind of thing
chrome hound
well sure, most managed switched have web interface, but that doesn't mean you can't ssh to them
inner trail
And well... how about the warranty on the ebay stuff?
chrome hound
your paying 70 for a switch now, are you really worried about warrenty?
inner trail
I'll be starting sth on the level of the technical colege this year - so yeah, 70$ is kinda a lot for me
rocky badge
@chrome hound how much LoL do you play....every time I look at your now playing it's LoL
brittle mural
He plays as much as he pleases.
spark chasm
hey
I want to play wired but my internet router isn't in my room, how can I play wired without running really long cables from the router to my room? I wanted to google this but I don't know how to do it in Google-style words
inner trail
The best way is to... run really long cables from the router
But wait a sec. need to verify sth
inner trail
But if you're on the same phase - you can probably do it over your existing eletricity cabls
spark chasm
what
inner trail
There're powerline network adapters
spark chasm
why?
inner trail
Hearead that works fine on the same phase - never tested it :/
hollow epoch
They don't work reliably
spark chasm
well thats a bit complicated for me anyways
inner trail
So yeah - just run cables from router to your room
hollow epoch
Run the cable and be happy that you didn't go powerline
inner trail
Not really
spark chasm
Alright, time for a new house then
hollow epoch
Why
hollow epoch
I've done that with a bit of effort last month
I don't know about your house though
spark chasm
no..
subtle glen
you can run a cable everywhere you want, just plan where it has to go. Even if it's not in the wall, just follow the exterior wall line and use silicon or cable clips
edgy seal
Powerline is NOT reliable, and chances are you won't be making the most out of your internet plan (good ones are expensive) - for me, even wifi is faster.
I'm in the same situation as that guy, my solution was to have my own router in my room with a wifi uplink - but it doesn't seem like that exists. Then others were telling me I could just use a PC with a wifi connection as a switch as well, but.. I don't really know how to do that either?
fresh copper
Just got approved for a /24 from ARIN for EVIX!
fresh copper
A /24 of IPv4, used to be called a class C network. Itβs 254 usable public IPs
inner trail
What's the main difference between L2 and L3 switches?
The main thing I know now is that the L3 switches are more flexible
fresh copper
An L3 βswitchβ is just a router with a lot of ports. Not that itβs the best source of information but https://serverfault.com/questions/123726/whats-the-difference-between-a-layer-2-layer-3-switch has some good info.
This one is really good I think https://community.fs.com/blog/layer-2-switch-vs-layer-3-switch-which-one-do-you-need.html
@inner trail
Also, apparently IPv10 is a thing, https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-omar-ipv10-06.html
inner trail
Wait, doesnt the IPv6 has more addresses than atoms in universe or sth like that?
inner trail
It's something along thoose lines
fresh copper
Just looked it up. It is less but still huge. If IPv6 addresses were given out one every millisecond since the start of the universe we would have barely given out even a tiny amount of the total we have
subtle glen
Bought it
fresh copper
Nice!
subtle glen
Also a security camera and a poe injector
viscid warren
What is the "best" router for home wireless atm? I have a home of 6 people all using phones laptops tablets etc plus Alexas streaming music wirelessly. It is an old house with walls that hate wireless at some places. I did consider some kind of wired to certain spots for access points etc.
I'm hope just a strong router will be fine cause wiring the walls is a pain with how its constructed.
fresh copper
I agree with that. The Ubiquiti Amplify line is nice too for medium sized homes. The Ubuquiti Unifi line is my favorite but requires a bit of setup and is not the best for the average person.
ornate jungle
Because it has "gaming" in the product name.
fresh copper
It sometimes has some special βgamingβ QoS
I think Asus makes some sort of βgamingβ motherboard that integrates with that stuff
subtle glen
sometimes they put a chip on the ethernet port so that technically "gaming traffic" has the priority over other traffic
fresh copper
I doubt it really does much but I guess if you are saturating your connection then maybe
subtle glen
i want to get in touch with this QoS stuff. I'll wait till the new router arrives
and i will disable everything on the isp one but this got me thinking: lets suppose i have to open a port on the edgerouter router. Do i have to open the port on the isp router as well? Or there is something i can disable so that the isp router becomes only a modem?
south elbow
a layer 3 switch is one that has the ability to route based on IP's not just mac addresses like a layer 2. The data link layer uses MAC addresses, and the network layer uses 3
fresh copper
@subtle glen you can disable the router part of the ISP router. Usually called bridge mode. Sometimes you have to call the ISP but most modems have it somewhere in the configuration
viscid warren
Should I buy my own modem or is the only point of doing that is just to save the monthly fee of renting one from ISP?
Im just bridging it anyways.
thick minnow
Currently have the ex6200 and the Netgear r6400 want to upgrade network for more range. I have a Ethernet running from the corner of the house with the r6400 to the other corner with the ex6200 I still don't cover the backyard. Should I buy the unifi AC pro and replace the ex6200 or should I just replace the r6400 too for fun. Budget maybe $200 because I can sell current equipment too
I was looking at like the EdgeRouter lite but that doesn't have many Ethernet ports
fresh copper
@viscid warren sometimes the ISP modem can have bad chipsets that make it worse than your own. The ones my ISP give out has that issue but we canβt use our own. Look up reviews of the ISP supplied modem to see if there are any chipset issues. The worst chipsets are the puma ones.
@thick minnow with the edgerouter lite there is no internal switch so if you have more than one port bridged it has to go though the CPU which is slow. If you are looking at an Edgerouter you may like the edgerouter X. You can also use an Edgerouter and connect it to a switch such as the switch on most wifi routers. You could also use one of your current routers as the actual router and just run anything off that. The Unifi stuff does not really benefit from the Edgerouter because itβs from a different line, the Unifi equivalent is the USG.
As for replacing a router, you may consider just adding an additional AP, maybe an outdoor one. You can often find a Unifi AC mesh or mesh pro for under $200. They are both outdoor rated. Donβt worry about the mesh part, itβs not required. You can find other cheeper outdoor access points too.
thick minnow
Hmmm, I wasnt too interested in outdoor just because its another thing to worry about. The one corner where ethernet is run to is about 20/30 feet (tops) to the backyard where people might need to access wifi. Only one wall aswell. Is the USG any good? should I be looking at that? Ive been learning some networking stuff in school with the IT team so I was kind of interested in upgrading the system just so I could experiment with more things. Maybe a NAS or a local dns server. and I know Unifi has really nice UI. I don't really need a new router but I feel if I were to get like an edgerouter i would be able to configure an AP better then netgears shit ui
thanks for the help mate last time I asked a question i was shot down lmao
Also with the edgerouter I don't need a switch because the printer is wireless. and the only wired devices is the AP and two tv things
young sundial
I upgraded to a Ubiquiti Edge Router X (the little one with 5 ports for like $50 or so) and after a bit of CLI shenanigans it's doing well.
I set one port as the WAN interface and the other ports with their own Class C or /24 subnet with its own DHCP pool. I have my internal wired network on one, my internal wifi network on another, VOIP on one and cameras (if I ever get any) on the last one. I like to keep everything separated, mostly to protect me from myself by only letting me break one thing at a time.
high anchor
I also got a ER-X 2 days ago to use it as a "whole-network" VPN client (protecting my own network on a "hotel-type" shared network in a flat rented from an university), this thing is really powerful, the only downside is that it can't do HW accelerated OpenVPN (which limits bandwidth at 10Mbps, whereas I was able to hit 700Mbps+ without VPN on a fiber with it) so I'm trying to figure out how to create a IPsec VPN with my pfSense VM that had the OpenVPN server installed.
young sundial
I have no idea if this will help or not, but I set up an OVPN server with routing enabled so that any machine that has the OVPN machine's IP as its default gateway will route everything through the VPN tunnel.
I used Turnkey Linux appliances: https://www.turnkeylinux.org/docs/openvpn
high anchor
I would still need a *NIX box to run it 24/24h that would definitely consume way more than it needs, that was the main reason why I bought the ER-X, my only issue with it is that OpenVPN isn't "optimized for it" (they can't really do anything more than just replace the CPU by a more powerful one for OVPN to be faster) but that's not a major issue because I can use IPsec as a OVPN replacement (as it's just for securing a bit more my network, not to make it NSA-proof)
That's also why I host my own VPN server on a rented dedicated server (with additional IPs, both are having my name written everywhere, so nearly any government can track me only with my IP)
fresh copper
IPSec is way faster than OpenVPN but is more difficult to get working. I have spent hours troubleshooting IPSec issues.
young sundial
I just use a European provider that doesn't keep logs and dump all the traffic out to a non-English speaking country. It's far from NSA proof, but it's a lot of work to find me for the minor things that I do.
high anchor
@fresh copper That's exactly what scares me ^^' Because I don't only want to create a site to site VPN, but also making everything in my network going through this VPN
(It looks that just set a NAT rule and some routes should do the trick (or at least it is what I saw))
Do you know if a IPsec client can be behind a firewall without needing to forward ports ?