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livid edge
late night steam servers bring a smile to my face
meager hazel
Lol
hallow nimbus
Lol
subtle glen
Spain is full of fiber
But the way they manage the cables...
Dangling cables going into balconies
All those massive nest of cables on the side of buildings
viscid juniper
@subtle glen that is tidy. This is a mess: https://asiancorrespondent.com/2016/06/thailand-wire-bill-gates/
When I was working there, one day in the office our fiber connection broke... they just threw a new one down the road. At least I had better internet I have now :/
thick minnow
i wish i could get a faster connection but nah virgin media wont do it
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Rip
lean pollen
That first picture is a mess, but the second is a super duper hyper mess
subtle glen
@viscid juniper there is a place nearby that has broken cable supports so all of them are dangling from poles. There are cables coming down from trees that are probably power cables and can easily touch your head. All the old but still working copper phone junction boxes are open aswell as the power boxes. Some of these are at kids levels with exposed metal probably electrified
subtle glen
Even in italy
Few years ago they even removed all the powerlines from the cities
Some houses had those massive powerlines in their backyard...
But here its on another level
I also noticed a lot of coaxial boxes things that I would say its cable tv??
lean pollen
Putting stuff in the ground is more expensive, but it solves a ton of problems
subtle glen
Yeah I know
Thats why they are full of fiber optics
They just put the box on the wall and hide the cable into the existing ones
๐
lean pollen
So bad
lean pollen
Those metal tubes. why not do that all the way up
subtle glen
Cause what gives
lean pollen
and maybe have the tube in the same colour as the wall possibly
subtle glen
Pfffffff
They dont even think about that
I can hear the vibrating core of that transformer ๐ ๐
To connect the apartments they just throw a cable down from a balcony
chrome hound
lol first world problems
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Oof
viscid juniper
@subtle glen wow itโs getting like Thailand
wise prism
I didn't check the replies from my problems lol
next time ping me so I don't miss the solution (but don't spam ping me)
How do I know if my ISP used CGNAT or PAT?
wise prism
My main goal was port forwarding but since my ISP uses some sort of NAT so I can't. VPNs have inconsistent pings which is not suitable for gaming and I don't know how to reverse SSH so any ideas on how to get around this?
Maybe linus could do a video about this
viscid juniper
@wise prism CGNAT? If you can access your router, check the external ip address assigned, if not... a traceroute might give you a hint. If the second hop is still a private address
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Ouch... CGNAT
viscid juniper
If that private address is in the range 100.64.0.0/10 ... you've CGNATed
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viscid juniper
hahahaha, the second didn't answer ๐
wise prism
The WAN IP was 10.x.x.x which practically means I'm behind a NAT
viscid juniper
yep then CGNAT
wise prism
fok
chrome hound
do they offer static IPs?
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Wait, WAN IP is 10.x? Are you behind another router possibly the modem or ONT?
chrome hound
when I was forced to use Comcast they CGNAT until you bought a static IP
wise prism
static IP would be expensive
chrome hound
options man
wise prism
that was my main router
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But do you have a modem or ONT?
chrome hound
who is the ISP?
wise prism
ISP is Bisnet (indonesia)
chrome hound
and today speeds are holding sub 3gb
chrome hound
so yea there is a lot they can do to limit you from using your service as a hosting
clear igloo
Last I checked most ISPs in Asia were doing CGNAT
rocky badge
Hmm
clear igloo
Not all but most at least
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Ouch
fresh copper
If you have CGNAT you are basically out of luck
chrome hound
sorry but I am thinking a static ip is your only hope
wise prism
VPN only then
clear igloo
Yah, you could buy a VPS and route it that way
rocky badge
True...
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Or run it on the VPS lol
wise prism
what about reverse SSH? does it need another server?
chrome hound
well that depends on how they are handling the routing, if they are clustering IP its going to change
fresh copper
You canโt really do a reverse ssh unless the other side can port forward
But I guess theoretically
chrome hound
my last company had 5 round robin IP for "load balancing" out a single connection
fresh copper
There are a few crazy things you could do
chrome hound
they mainly did it to keep engerrins from setting up static out connecting home
wise prism
so maybe I can get my friends to do the port forward for me
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They'll have to host it though
chrome hound
your are hosting a game server? or what?
viscid juniper
@clear igloo Yes, I had AIS in Thailand and they used CGNAT
clear igloo
Good to know ๐
viscid juniper
But it worked very well (besides the el-cheapo thai firewall)
viscid juniper
@subtle glen Cable TV
@subtle glen They remind me the ones ONO (in .es) used to install.
viscid juniper
You can get internet from cable TV
subtle glen
I don't think this is the case
viscid juniper
At least in my home town, before fiber, that was the only way to get good internet. ONO years ago, Vodafone nowadays.
subtle glen
Oh wait, there are manholes with the ONO logo on it
Maybe the antenna is related to the r/tv and those outside cables are for the sat?
subtle glen
I mean it seems like there is fiber and old copper lines
Do they also get internet via coax?
Are you from spain or something?
viscid juniper
Yep, I was born in Spain
subtle glen
Ahh that explains everything
I'm in spain rn
So you get internet via coax/fiber/copper phone line?
viscid juniper
Using that box? Via Coax
subtle glen
I mean there are copper phone lines, fiber lines and now coax lines
Do they all give internet
viscid juniper
In general, all can give you internet. ๐ค
viscid juniper
The big one seems like an amplifier. But I will check it
subtle glen
Oh ok
viscid juniper
Oh, it might be a fiber to coax adapter
unreal wedge
I find that highly disturbing.
viscid juniper
Do you feel a disturbance in the force Luke @unreal wedge
(I have to learn how to strikethrough)
unreal wedge
No, I sense an impending fire or loss in service.
Also strikethrough ~~strikethrough~~
viscid juniper
Thanks
remote kernel
Have I ever said how awesome laser printers are? I got one yesterday and it's amazing. It is soooo fast
unreal wedge
You will be smiten.
viscid juniper
@subtle glen Yep, time ago (and they still do) they used to bring coax to the home and not fiber.
@subtle glen Lanzarote?
unreal wedge
That's some beauty there.
viscid juniper
The pic of the shop. There is only one shop called "bysiroco" in Spain.
subtle glen
Lol
Gotcha
Dooley together we can make spain cabling great again
You got some really good eyes there @viscid juniper
unreal wedge
It doesn't appear to have ever been great...
unreal wedge
I can only assume the ISPs there suck.
unreal wedge
Which is a given, considering their network was hacked a few years ago to facilitate the mirai DDoS attacks.
subtle glen
Here I have sdsl
50/50
Not that bad
But I think the guy that owns the palace shares it between the guests houses and his house
viscid juniper
AFAIK in Spain you can get 600Mbps symertric easily... I consider that not-sucking-ISP
subtle glen
Only
hallow nimbus
Yes only
hallow nimbus
๐
subtle glen
And take me with you
hallow nimbus
NEin
hallow nimbus
Because i need room for my servers
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Verizon, pls give faster speeds
hallow nimbus
XD
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hallow nimbus
OOF
subtle glen
That's less than my home internet
hallow nimbus
lmao
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LMAO
subtle glen
so you can use it
subtle glen
There's a kid making the fortnite dance, I got distracted
hallow nimbus
๐
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http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/3995135697.png blue, want this?
hallow nimbus
Nein fuck off
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The upload tho
subtle glen
Thats asymmetrical dsl
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That's 4g lte
subtle glen
Powerful than my home internet ๐ญ
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@hallow nimbus want this? http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/3982620204.png
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I had to live with that for a day
subtle glen
oh for fuck sake
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Lmaoooo
subtle glen
Rip lte
I've been living with my home internet for years
That might change soon
1gbps coming
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Just Google?
subtle glen
Go away
hallow nimbus
Yes because google is baller
subtle glen
I need it more
hallow nimbus
But microsoft is closer for me ๐
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I want EPB fiber
hallow nimbus
How fast can it go ?
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10gbps
subtle glen
How fast can ubisoft go ๐
hallow nimbus
00000000.1Gbps
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$2,999.99/mo pls
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For 10, 10 gigabit lines
hallow nimbus
XD
subtle glen
here you go
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Nice Shutterstock image
unreal wedge
o _o
hallow nimbus
thick minnow
i have two modems ones for cable and the other is for internet the white box thing is the fiber part
my internet speed is 300/40
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@thick minnow oh god...
subtle glen
2 modems?
subtle glen
They must put the sticker
thick minnow
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Ah
subtle glen
If you look inside the cable, do you see a pulsing light?
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It's Canadian
thick minnow
xD
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No wonder why the techs did a bad job
thick minnow
roasts sasktel for not stapling anything to the ceiling
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thick minnow
LMAOOO
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A Bell technician did this beautiful number in my house today. Who knew that โin home fibreโ meant THROUGH MY DRAINAGE PIPE.
subtle glen
Gg
thick minnow
maybe
rocky badge
xD
subtle glen
Oh right, cause its goddamn hard to enter america
And I dont like a lot of american stuff
Like the price for internet
remote kernel
Stay up north. Your president is better
subtle glen
The network room is open, the water room is open but why isnt the poweroom open ๐
Mmmm im italian
unreal wedge
Erm.
subtle glen
I just wanted to see the power room ๐
hallow nimbus
So you dont shock you're fingers off ๐
subtle glen
I got shocked
And im here
Everything that doesn't kill me makes me stonger
Its closed probably to keep people like me out
unreal wedge
Drinking a glass of poison daily will not make you stronger.
subtle glen
Wanna bet?
If you eat a reeeeeeally small quantity of poison everyday
Your body will be less affected by poison
unreal wedge
Like taking the wrong medication daily will eventually kill you, if not mentally harm you.
subtle glen
I dont take anything so im good
But why is that substation locked
I just wanna take a look
viscid juniper
@subtle glen An electrical substation has higher voltages. The ones you do not survive. Be careful.
fast sequoia
if you get and arch pray to die on the spot
hardy kestrel
Can I use Google WiFi instead of AC Lite, It's too expensive to Mesh with that. $132 for 1 Unit :C
wraith reef
Why are we talking about death in the networking chat?
hardy kestrel
Ask Dancho
fast sequoia
electrical substation
votage
wraith reef
Nothingโs stopping you from using Google WiFi
Still...in a NETWORKING chat? XD lmao
hardy kestrel
My ISP provides Google WiFi
fast sequoia
do they sell it or loan it to u?
hardy kestrel
It adds it to the bill of our internet connection
hardy kestrel
I think it's $10 more
wraith reef
So loan
Thatโs not an uncommon offer by any means
I say take it
Google WiFi is a sweet desl
Deal*
Itโs not the best in the world
But $10 every month is inconsequential for what youโre getting
fast sequoia
i would get a few mikrotik AC accespoints just so i would have control over them
wraith reef
Is it a perpetual loan though or is it just until the value of the device is paid off?
I mean...sure, ig?
Thereโs some appeal to the โit just worksโ solution
Depends on financial capability and desired level of control at this point
fast sequoia
its gret if you dont have spare time to set it up
wraith reef
You mean Google WiFi?
fast sequoia
yes
hardy kestrel
I guess I'll go with 3 Pack+2 More
wraith reef
Google WiFi is simpler and it works well enough
hardy kestrel
Our house is massive
wraith reef
How big is your home?
hardy kestrel
So 3 first?
wraith reef
Yeah
hardy kestrel
Ok.
wraith reef
You donโt wanna be out 1-2 hundred if it turns out you donโt need 5
Even if you kinda know that you need it
hardy kestrel
Who's doing that!!?
wraith reef
Iโd say 3 just to be safe
wraith reef
By moving location of APs to create a good mesh
And if not, then add more
Okay, enjoy
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I have the โlibertyโ of using ATT Fiber
On one hand, itโs 1 Gig for $80/mo
On the other, it works about 40% of the time and they only sent me a 2Wire modem to replace the Arris BGW210-700 they sent me after I spent 4 calls getting poโed at their faces
desert quail
wise prism
If I were to setup my router as a PPTP / OpenVPN server do I need to open ports?
fast sequoia
for open vpn-yes
pptp is shite and provides no protection
but you can route openvpn traffic over port 443
so people cant detect that you use a vpn because the traffic will look like generic https traffic
wise prism
can't do that since I'm behind a CGNAT
fast sequoia
lol
fresh copper
If you are behind CGNAT you basically can't host any services
There are a couple of exceptions but those are mostly irrelevant (you can be the host of a skype call for example)
Anything where someone is connecting directly to you requires you to open ports which really means that both you and the ISP would have to open ports and they won't do that for you unless you pay for a static IP.
The "reverse" version of anything (like reverse SSH as mentioned earlier) essentially have the other side host the service, this means they would have to open ports which for many services would not work (like if you wanted a VPN to use on public wifi, the public wifi would have to port forward and they would not do that)
You could have a friend do port forwarding so that they can access the service but if you are both on CGNAT then you are out of luck
ISPs don't expect home users to want to run services so they often have things in place that make that harder such as CGNAT
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I would kill Charter if I had a CGNAT IP
chrome hound
thats why I have a block of 12 IP's
rocky badge
I have one IP at home ;-;
oak dawn
Hello. is someone who knows where it sells the ASUS XG-U2008 Rack Mount
icy jasper
I need some help with my setup of OpenVPN on my server, I'm trying to get my desktop running Ubuntu to connect to my server which is running CentOS as a client to establish a VPN connection but I cannot connect to the server because it says activation to network failed
I'm also connecting my server straight to my AT&T wireless gateway BTW
fresh copper
You probably need to do port forwarding
Also check and make sure your ISP does not use CGNAT
remote kernel
when i try to change my dns servers, this happens
this is what i want my dns set to
fresh copper
Thatโs really weird
It might not like you using 1.1.1.1 and 8.8.8.8. I think itโs saying you can only use it on private addresses but that is still so weird. That should work
I use 1.1.1.1 and 8.8.8.8 fine
remote kernel
I'm just gonna throw this crappy router out and buy a unifi security gateway
It's a piece of junk
fresh copper
Yea
remote kernel
I even tried with all local addresses and it still doesn't work
fresh copper
If you want to get into networking then get an Edgerouter X as it has more expandability if you want to bother to learn it.
If you just want something that works then the USG is good as it is easy to set up and just works
I have used USGs with a bunch of clients and never had any issues
remote kernel
Hmm. I'm going to redo my network with unifi APs. Is the edgerouter compatible with those?
The main thing I absolutely need is the ability to change DNS servers. I need to set my AD DC as the first resolver so my PCs can find the domain controller
fresh copper
An Edgerouter would work but if you are going for a unifi setup then itโs better to have a USG
Just makes things nicer
remote kernel
Ok, will keep that in mind
I'm thinking 2 uap-ac-pros, a USG and a couple of unifi switch 8s
fresh copper
Yea, thatโs a great setup
If your aps are going to be plugged into the same switch you might want a switch 8 60W to power them but itโs not required as the aps come with poe adapters
remote kernel
Yep, I'm getting a PoE switch
I've been looking at some PoE IP cams so I want a PoE switch for those too
fresh copper
Well, your looking at a really nice setup there.
Good luck with the upgrade
remote kernel
Yeah, I've always wanted more prosumer grade gear and ubiquit stuff fits the bill
Pro grade features at a reasonable price
loud lance
@remote kernel are you a WOW! Subscriber? Cause I got the same one!
currently running a Ubiquiti Security Gateway too
remote kernel
Nope, I have Suddenlink
remote kernel
I'd almost consider what I am doing hacking lol
loud lance
what are u doing
remote kernel
I have to remove the disabled='disabled' tag from anything I want to edit. I've already been able to change the ssid
Cause my ISP is a bunch of nimrods who don't have a clue
loud lance
This version of Arris router
remote kernel
They don't even support changing the security key without doing this hacky workaround
loud lance
is built into
my cable box
and ive tried using a Motorola surfboard to bypass it, doesn't work.
remote kernel
Same lol
loud lance
I just wanna end all cable boxes
remote kernel
If i can't get this to work I'm getting my own cable box
steady rampart
โฌโโฌ ใ( ใ-ใใ)
remote kernel
So I've even tried using 0.0.0.0 and leaving the 2nd and 3rd DNS blank
fresh copper
Lol
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Just don't set an address for the 2nd and 3rd entry
fresh copper
This sounds like the worst router in the world
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it does lmao
edgy seal
oh hey
remote kernel
I've tried that and it still doesn't take it
edgy seal
here's a good place to ask my question
This might sound stupid but why can't I access file services or the webgui of a server I've put on a different subnet? Is this something with my crappy router?
slow pivot
0.0.0.0 is reserved...
fresh copper
Yea, but literally nothing he puts in works, not a privateโs address or 1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8 or anything
slow pivot
@edgy seal subnets are not by default routable, i.e. a machine on one subnet can not automatically know how to "get to" a machine on another subnet
slow pivot
No
edgy seal
because I remember being able to do that before
fresh copper
@edgy seal The router has to know how to get to the other subnet. You need a static route on the router to point to the device that acts as the gateway for the other subnet
slow pivot
If both subnets are on the same physical ethernet segment, you can simply add the subnet to the list of networks that the machines see
edgy seal
There is no router on the other subnet lol
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I wanna kill Windows https://linusdrop.tips/yraLRv
slow pivot
If the two subnets are on different physical ethernet segments, then yes, you need a router that has the routes for both subnets configured in it
fresh copper
Then just a static route to the device
Any reason why you need it to be on a different subnet?
edgy seal
To give some perspective: I have a server with two nics running ESXI and I'm trying to run a FreeNAS VM. I have one virtual nic in the VM configured to be on the default "VM Network" and I have the other on a "Storage Network." What I'm trying to do is seperate storage traffic from other things and because of a FreeBSD implementation you can't have two interfaces configured on the same subnet for some assinine reason (Unix philosophies and methods were cited on the FreeNAS forums by the devs)
Weirdly though when the nics are configured using DHCP they automatically put themselves on the same subnet (192.168.1.15 and 192.168.1.17)
I don't necessarily need to seperate traffic but I'd at least like to understand what's the proper way to get this working for future reference
I hope I'm just being an idiot and the answer is obvious because I'm sick of hearing "that's now what you should be doing"
remote kernel
is this how it should be ? https://img.fanman03.ml/VDpAg.png
remote kernel
oh my god it actually worked!!!!
slow pivot
@edgy seal ok, so the answer as to why they shouldn't be on the same network starts with: of course they can be configured to do so, but it won't work as you think, and that ties into the second part: there are many things that start to break when IP has multiple path-ways onto the same sub net
slow pivot
@edgy seal So what you should be doing, is plug the two NICs of that ESXi host into a switch, configure your router with the two sub-nets you want to use, and then when configuring VMs/hosts on your network, assign them to one of the sub nets (or both if that makes sense, as in your FreeNAS server)
fresh copper
@edgy seal Basically the other devices need to know how to get to the other subnet. You could set up each device individually but the better option is to set your router to know how to get to the other subnet. What you would need is a static route on the router saying that you can get to the subnet via the lan interface. Itโs different on every router and some canโt do it so I canโt help much with that.
I would not recommend it myself but there is no reason why you should not be able to do it and it is good to have these skills in case you have a situation where you really would need to do it.
@remote kernel I canโt believe it works! You will definitely be way more happy once you get that USG though
edgy seal
I got it. Should I just look for some kind of static route section?
fresh copper
@desert quail ACxxxx is related to the theoretical max throughput of the wifi. A higher number means higher speeds. The issue is that this is a total and not what a single device would actually get. Higher numbers help for when you have more devices.
This also only really effects the 5Ghz speeds. 2.4 is always max 900 and on some boxes it will say ACxxxx, N900+ACyyyy
slow pivot
That's what I would do
edgy seal
Is it in here
slow pivot
Looks about right
fresh copper
Looks fine as long as this is on the router
edgy seal
I have no idea what I should be entering here
Let's say i've configured the interface to be 192.168.2.33
And yes this is on the router
slow pivot
Well
Just a word of warning
Backup your router's configuration if you can
Because sometimes these types of config changes can lock you out of your router's UI
fresh copper
The destination IP address is the subnet, so that might be 192.168.2.0/24 in this case. The interface is the lan on. It looks like that is IP_DATA but those are weird names so I canโt be sure. Metric AUTO is fine and origin is alway static. Donโt fill in the gateway IP address
I agree with idpromnut on backing up if possible
edgy seal
Weird the invalid ip address thing fixed itself xd
Just had to try it again
Ok now time to configure freenas and see if it works
Uh what the hell
My router added this on its own
@slow pivot @fresh copper So neither my route or the one the router added on its own seem to be working.. I'm not sure what the issue is at this point
edgy seal
no every time I try pinging the address or accessing the webgui it just times out
edgy seal
@slow pivot @fresh copper Alright I'm going to give up on this traffic seperation thingy it's not working at all, if you have any other suggestions please let me know but for now I think I'm just going to get rid of this virtual nic
edgy seal
I did a little more research because this is driving me crazy. Is it possible that this is a setting I need to mess with in ESXi? People are saying that if two computers on different subnets are connected to the same router then the router will automatically allow the two to communicate, but clearly this is not the case for me. I have absolutely no idea what to do anymore.
slow pivot
The virtual switches in ESXi can be rather complex, but at their simplest should "just work"
edgy seal
That's what I thought.
The main reason why I'm still trying to get this to work is because I especially wanted iSCSI traffic to be seperate from SMB and other file sharing services when communicating to a CentOS VM in the same hypervisor.. Oh well
Unless you have any other ideas, im removing the nic
slow pivot
If you are on the same ESXI host, you can just put the two NICs/subnets on two different vSwitches
If you are on the same ESXI host, you can just put the two NICs/subnets on two different vSwitches
edgy seal
They are on different vswitches. "VM network" is on vSwitch0 and "Storage Network" is on vSwitch1
rocky badge
Why do you need a the XG-8 lmao
hallow nimbus
The wat ?
rocky badge
USG XG-8
hallow nimbus
And that is ?
rocky badge
A router
rocky badge
the XG-8 MSRP is $1,599.00
hallow nimbus
What
rocky badge
Ah
gentle siren
Top to bottom:
Pancake (UAP-nanoHD), Food Processor (LBE-5AC-GEN2)
Fillydelphia (USG-8-150W), Las Pegasus (USG-8-150W)
Canterlot (US-16-XG)
Equestria (USG-8-XG)
Manehattan (US-48-750W)
rocky badge
Nice names ๐
hallow nimbus
Sponser pls
gentle siren
I also have Kitchen Aid (LBE-5AC-120), Phil Collins (AF-5), and Ginger Baker (AF-5)
Named those last two after drummers because, well, they look (and sound) like bongo drums
hallow nimbus
lmao
rocky badge
xD
harsh rose
thats baller af
fresh copper
@gentle siren That is better than what I install at even most of my larger clients.
What does the screen on the USG XG do? I canโt find much info about it online
gentle siren
It idles at that temp
I'm tempted to go in and re-grease it
(60% sure that air travel at least knocked the heatsink around)
fresh copper
Get some liquid metal in there /s
I can here the LTT video now. โLiquid Metal in a Router?โ, โOverclocking a router, do you get better performance?โ โDo you really get more pps from overclocking a router?โ โfps? No, we want that sick ppsโ
gentle siren
I'll release that under Larscis Tech Tips?
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yee
gentle siren
"Unlike Linus Tech Tips, we can't really afford RED cameras...so we'll settle for BMD Ursas with Fujinon lenses."
hallow nimbus
XD
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XD
chrome hound
@rocky badge any ideas what should be on a sponsor speed test server page?
rocky badge
Umm
chrome hound
they said this was not working >> http://sp01.seddt.net
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XDD
chrome hound
I maintain it worked fine
fresh copper
It literally says at the top of the page โIt Works!โ
@chrome hound Iโm thinking something like this but with โIt Works!โ as the text
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/
fresh copper
Ok
edgy seal
All I want to do is access my files from my NAS (which, again, is running FreeNAS in an ESXi hypervisor) remotely without relying on third party services and without doing stuff like port forwarding an FTP server (not really safe). I heard VPNs were the way to go, but I can't figure out how to get OpenVPN running on FreeNAS. I'm seeing a bunch of guides to run the server on freenas, but I'd much rather run the OpenVPN server on my general-purpose Ubuntu Server VM. Any ideas?
fresh copper
Yea. OpenVPN on an Ubuntu server sounds good
edgy seal
now how do i get the client running on freenas
fresh copper
Hmm
edgy seal
or
can I mount the shares from freenas onto my server using NFS and then run an NFS server on the ubuntu sevrer broadcasting those shares again onto the openvpn network
a little convoluted
but would it work?
chrome hound
@rocky badge ๐ http://sp01.seddt.net/
remote kernel
I finally fixed my problem by throwing out that modem/router and dusting off my old 32x8 modem an Asus RT-AC-66u
fresh copper
@edgy seal It might be convoluted and not the โcorrectโ way but it would probably be the easiest
edgy seal
Yeah I'm not really too concerned about speed when I'm outside of my network. Just want to be able to access my files
chrome hound
are you able to ssh in?
fresh copper
Thatโs a good idea
chrome hound
thats how I do it, then all I have to carry is a ecryopted key on a usb stick and I can get in no matter where I am
I know you didn't want to port forward, but you can tunnel and I even used RDP
fresh copper
Yea, SSH is very powerful.
His method is probably the most likely for him to get working though
wise prism
I envy you guys since I'm stuck here with my VPN service
Is pagekite actually free like no limits?
Or is it another free trial thing
fresh copper
1 month free trial.
Individuals can use it for free or pay what you want: we ask for a mere $3 USD/month.
Subscription, group and embedded plans for the pros from $5.99 USD/month.```It appears that for an individual it is free but they beg for donations
edgy seal
I have SSH access but I'd be extremely worried about port forwarding 22.
I don't have a crazy firewall setup, so I'd probably feel safer going through an OpenVPN network. But inside the VPN network, yes, I'd probably use SCP/SFTP to transfer files
pseudo ermine
yo need some ssds for my server asap, any recommendations
chrome hound
putty makes ssh setup a breeze and manages your tunnels, my setup is a ubuntu box with two nic interfaces, one public facing the other private, then I just putty session in it open the tunnel ports and its like I am on my home network, not exactly VPN, and you have to know your ports you need to map to, but I just basically RDP into my home desktop which has everything I would want anyways
wise prism
Technically I should be able to use Pagekite for free for as long as I want
as an individual
right?
fresh copper
Forwarding port 22 is fine as long as you do key based auth rather than password based auth. Even then almost all of my stuff has port 22 open. I would not even feel worried putting the ips on here.
@wise prism I am going to say yes.
@pseudo ermine I donโt know a lot about ssds but make sure to read this before buying them for a server: https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/filecab/2016/11/18/dont-do-it-consumer-ssd/
pseudo ermine
wait i read that as b4 buying a server lol
fresh copper
Lol
noble dirge
planning on getting my friend to print me this.
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1606631
just so i can have an army of raspberry pis on my network
rocky badge
@chrome hound lol nice
fresh copper
Time to start a raspberry pi hosting company!
noble dirge
do it
wise prism
Dunno what that could be used for other than IoT stuff
high anchor
I have a confirm from my contact about some PowerEdge R510 that I could get for free before they are thrown to the dump. I'll get 4 of them, all equipped with 2x Xeon X5650, 32Gb RAM (8x4Gb ECC DDR3), dual power supplies, Dell Perc H710 hardware RAID card with 8 x 600Gb 15k RPM HDDs (probably SAS HDDs) and a iDRAC service module.
I'm going to get them next week on Thursday ๐
fresh copper
Thatโs awesome!
Also, raspberry pi hosting/colo already exists. https://raspberry-hosting.com/en
high anchor
Asking randomly, anyone here is living at or nearby Geneva and knows the name of some datacenter or dedicated server hosting service in the area ?
I'm searching a datacenter that provides housing services near the Switzerland-France border.
noble dirge
https://www.mythic-beasts.com/
rpi hosting as well
regal chasm
my server is... a bit overloaded
I probably will upgrade to some lga775 office pc, are those good enough with power consumption?
slow pivot
My 2600k overclocked and full load still only consumes about 160W
Which is less than the dell server i have running at 180w
regal chasm
so I will be fine with core 2 duo desktop witout gpu?
remote kernel
@regal chasm I run active directory + local DNS on a Pentium D with a 9800GT
And that is plenty powerful enough
subtle glen
now, that's a raspberry pi cluster
hallow nimbus
and what does it cluster ?
viscid juniper
Don't know, for ARM servers I rent some cores of this chip: https://www.cavium.com/product-thunderx2-arm-processors.html
noble dirge
has anyone used octopi ? was wondering if it is possible to hook up more than 8 in the cluster.
slow pivot
@hallow nimbus Bitscope makes usb oscilloscopes, looks like that is one of their supercluster scopes
hallow nimbus
Oh
viscid juniper
@slow pivot I'd say the raspberry cluster is another different business line bitscope has. ๐ค
subtle glen
Lol a scope that big??
slow pivot
Nah, they make a hat for the rpi to turn a rpi into a ethernet connected scope. They are used in that scale for production testing, or in test rigs with huge numbers of signals @viscid juniper
viscid juniper
Yeah, the networked scope is one thing, where the RPis are distributed. The cluster is another one, as the Rpis are all in the same place.
slow pivot
Ugh, those are horrible to use ๐
subtle glen
I don't even know how to use that
slow pivot
I use more traditional bench top versions of that tool for work.
subtle glen
The one from keysight?
subtle glen
Lol use an old crt tv as oscilloscope
slow pivot
not quite ๐
subtle glen
Hehehehe
Can't wait to get fibet ๐ if I will get it. I had a similar experience last summer where the isp told me I would have fttc 100 mbps but then he made a mistake while making the coverage test after he already gave me the modem etc...
hallow nimbus
subtle glen
Let's see if my parents are willing to "waste 20 minutes" to change contract for ftth
hallow nimbus
XD
subtle glen
When I come back home, everything should be ready
The box in the power room should be terminated
manic mango
Those cheap oscilloscopes aren't that bad actually
They do lack features I need on a desk version, but it's decent for some light use
slow pivot
If that's all ya got, then yea, they have to do
noble dirge
is it even mounting if you don't use a ziptie ?
noble dirge
wish my pay check would come sooner, reaely want to start building my home lab
subtle glen
What will you put in it
I really want to take a speedtest with that ftth they will put in the bulding
noble dirge
i'm looking at ubiquiti unifi line
as i have used it with work and am really pleased with it
also want some cisco stuff to play around with and break as i am getting bored of packet tracer
looking to take my ICND 1 & 2
subtle glen
I want to learn how to use cisco stuff so that I can use the cisco switches I have
Cause yknow, whats the point of having a cisco switch if you don't know how to use it
slow pivot
now barely uses his 2600 router
noble dirge
there is a cool free series on youtube which takes you through the CCNA stuff and most of the CLI
he made a kick starter to be able to provide all this for free.
slow pivot
IOS isn't that hard anyways, but it can be tricky
Also, the 2600 only has 100MBit max interfaces, so not so useful for me ๐
hmm, only 55$ https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Cisco-Systems-2821-Gigabit-Wired-Router-Cisco-2821-IOS-15-CME-128mb-Flash/252975781044
noble dirge
if you ever get stuck just hit ? and it will tell you what to put next in the command
slow pivot
no additional interfaces, so you only get 2 1GBit
noble dirge
i have been building my network diagram ready for when i start getting parts
still a WIP though
messy at the moment as well
subtle glen
ThE mAGiCaL InTerWeBSXD
hallow nimbus
Nas box (any server off ebay :D)
slow pivot
Dell 710 + ESXi ๐
subtle glen
And whats that nuc for
noble dirge
yeah the nuc is for plex
not decided what nuc i want yet. only reason i'm using my pi 2 is because it is doing nothing at the moment.
hallow nimbus
i no see AP @subtle glen
hallow nimbus
that wooden stick thingy with the lamp ?
regal chasm
blob your new pfp is awesome
strong tusk
@hallow nimbus I circled it
hallow nimbus
We both have Nitro so yea
subtle glen
@strong tusk yeeee you got it
I saw a picture on instagram about a networking joke and meh the ignorance in the comments (not that I am in the position to call myself an expert)
remote kernel
How do you guys name devices on your network? My domain controller is dc01
What should I name the other PCs and servers?
subtle glen
Well I guess it depends?
fresh copper
Here is a nice email the IX that I co-operate received.
My English is bad.
I like to work as you did. Congratulations!
Internet Exchange Point in Turkey is minimal. (1 pieces) I want to install IXP with EoIP tunneling.
It is a very important initiative, especially to prevent local DDoS attacks.
I'm planning on configuring with Mikr otik CHR. But I do not have an ASN and a real IP address. I'll get / 28 subnet. But it is very difficult to obtain an ASN.
Can I ask for information from you on topics such as configuration, editing, etc.? How can I get support from this issue?```๐
fresh copper
A lot of the confusing parts are due to his bad English
But itโs going to be an IXP with EoIP peering. Which is a bit weird but ok. But thatโs supposed to prevent local DDoS attacks. Nothing local about it with EoIP peering (he contacted a couple of the current members of our exchange which are definitely not in Turkey). How does any IX prevent DDoS
He does not seem to understand quite enough to run an IX but the other co-owner replied and gave him a lot of info so it looks like he managed to get an ASN and it actually trying to make the thing
Most of their website is text that was copied from our website verbatim.
fresh copper
Just finding out that no part of the internet is safe from shenanigans
I will post an update later. Iโm going to document this on our website
fresh copper
Here is something found while browsing whois data (looking for peers!)
descr: StarCloud global network powered by high-end Arduino BGP routers
final wadi
Lol
blazing latch
hallow nimbus
Most of the times its the device it self
clear igloo
The biggest question is, what is "bonkers" and what behavior is being seen
subtle glen
I don't remember if someone answered to this last time but, if I use my media converter to convert the passive fiber of the isp into ethernet and use my own router (something like an edgerouter), configured with the dhcp on the wan port is going to work or no
fresh copper
It all depends on the ISP. In my experience, you have to use their media converter or ONT. In all cases I have seen you do have the option to use your own router. The only way to know for sure would be to contact the ISP you plan to use
subtle glen
I probably will cause I don't understand why sometimes the technicians put the fiberjack+media converter and sometimes only the fiberjack
Also I noticed that it is not that easy to find modems with a passive fiber connector (in case I won't have the media converter). That's why I wanted to buy like a tp link single fiber media converter (the one I found is unfortunately only 100 mbps, I was thinking about a passive fiber to sfp adapter that goes into an sfp to ethernet media converter)
And then today I got this idea to have my media converter with my own router that has a wan port with dhcp to get the dynamic ip from the isp. Not sure if that would work tho
Maybe I can even ask for a static one
subtle glen
@fresh copper I am writing them an email right now, I'll also ask them how do all the isp get connected to the fiber line so that you can choose the one you like. Hopefully we will know how they do it
fresh copper
I will be interested to hear their response
subtle glen
Me too actually
unreal wedge
@subtle glen @fresh copper condense your messages
fresh copper
What do you mean by that?
fresh copper
Thank you, I guess for you it shows a name with every message whereas on mine it does not. Thank you for the clarification. I will do my best to condense my messages in the future.
wispy plover
Something from ASUS.
upper slate
amazon bestsellers and choice are tp link tho
rocky badge
Amazon bestsellers aren't always the best
upper slate
looking at asus reviews look like their support is garbo
hallow nimbus
Best sellers are mostly bought by dumb people who dont know what something does or how good it is
upper slate
reviews look good
unreal wedge
Don't forget "sponsored" content and blind buyers that buy from reviews, which can be botted.
upper slate
unreal wedge
That said, why the hell can't I find a new monitor for under $100 that doesn't look like it's from 2008?
rocky badge
Why that router? You're probably paying a lot for the "gamer" and such
upper slate
no just looking at routers
unreal wedge
@rocky badge don't forget technologies that don't exist or aren't widely used yet.
rocky badge
Yea
unreal wedge
Like 802.11ad, 802.11x, etc.
rocky badge
But that doesn't have 802.11ad
And do you mean 802.11x as in X is a variable or 802.1x
unreal wedge
ad is kinda insane, like I'm waiting to hear that it's a cause for cancer.
rocky badge
Yeah ๐
unreal wedge
If I'm that close to the router to begin with, I'll literally use ethernet, which is faster.
rocky badge
Yea
upper slate
hmmm
rocky badge
I'm not near the router though ;-;
upper slate
was looking at the archer series
rocky badge
upper slate
unreal wedge
@rocky badge ad only works near the router.
rocky badge
OOOF
hallow nimbus
upper slate
probably going to settle for this https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320174&cm_re=router-_-33-320-174-_-Product
hallow nimbus
Nah take the space ship https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16833320244
upper slate
3 eggs ๐ฅ ๐ฅ ๐ฅ
harsh rose
@rocky badge I still love your vanity URL
rocky badge
@harsh rose ๐
naive nest
clear igloo
Nobody would/does
802.11AD is dead anyway
A fart in another room could block the signal for someone in the same room as the router ๐
chrome hound
how many octets of an IP do you need to determine the ISP of an IP?
clear igloo
Depends completely on the ISP, most should have at least a /16 or greater I would imagine but you never know
Even then you have to consider VPNs, Proxies, VPS, leased addresses, etc.
chrome hound
ok, I think for my needs googling it gets me close enough, I am just curious in general ๐
any one have a guide for Ubuntu network performance tuning?
fresh copper
The longest prefix an ISP can have for ipv4 is a /24. Many in North America have /23s or /22s. In the EU there are a lot of /22s. Some ISPs may have larger blocks, especially older ones that may have /16s. Usually an ISP wonโt have just one of these blocks but a number however they may not be contiguous. The best way to check is to type the prefix (or full IP) you have (70.70.198.0 in my case) into the search bar of bgp.he.net. That will tell you what ASNs are announcing it. This includes all of the higher blocks. The name of the ASN or the description of the block usually shows what ISP owns it
elfin gust
Did anyone here already talked about the WPA/2
PMKID vulnerabilities ?
recently discovered
anyway, it`s possible to crack your wap/wpa2 password just with this
white coral
@unreal wedge you said you are good at optimizing networks right?
You think you could help me with mine? I have device prioritization issues with bandwidth and QoS isnt working like i hoped
unreal wedge
QoS is always finicky.
white coral
@unreal wedge yea, dispite me manually adjusting values for my workstations mac address it cut the speed in half after I changed its priority
edgy seal
Much to my dismay, I'm back here with more troubleshooting for my freenas server, for those of you who remember the issue I brought here.. I'm not really sure how I can put this but later that day I found a workaround for the traffic splitting and everything was working until yesterday, when I left the house for the day and came back to find that SMB stopped working completely: When I connect using two backslashes and the ip of my server in file explorer, I get an error saying windows cannot access it (It happens very quick making me think that it can find the nas but it's rejecting the connection for some reason). This happens on multiple clients, both Windows 10 and 7. I did absolutely nothing to the server except try to get NFS to work for my Linux box, all services and shares for which I completely disabled to remove any possibility of interference. I was able to ping the box and access the webgui, and my iSCSI LUNs were working fine, but SMB refused to work no matter what settings I was tweaking. I even reinstalled freenas and it still did not work.
Sorry for the wall of text. Maybe I should have posted on the forum but I find the people here more helpful for this kind of thing
stoic tide
QoS is completely disabled on my NG Orbi lol
You can't even enable it like you could on my nighthawk
slim forum
o0o my post was removed. Oh well.
subtle glen
That's a poe injector
fresh copper
Oh my
slow pivot
That's a death-dapter
meager hazel
That's a device killer
mental talon
Why is my internet slower than the internet on the moon
meager hazel
lol
hallow nimbus
XD
quasi isle
but hey compared to my 50Mbit/s vdsl thats pretty good
quasi isle
how much of your plex stuff is allready uploaded?
quasi isle
xD
hallow nimbus
1.02TB to go RIP
quasi isle
even with 50 Mbit stable up that would be more then 2 weeks for me
hallow nimbus
Yea
This is gonna take 2 weeks lmao
And the server where the transfer is running on doesnt have a UPS
So if power goes out RIP
hallow nimbus
Thanks ๐
fresh copper
Look at all these features I will get
(This is getting a login to IXPManager at Klayrex IX)
glad stratus
It's the Klayrex ... soo
don't expect anything ;P
subtle glen
Do you know if you can record footage from a security camera onto a nas that has a different brand? Or you need a specific nvr from the same brand of the security camera
clear igloo
If the camera supports FTP then you can just do FTP storage
thick minnow
What for internet connection do you guys have
subtle glen
You mean isp?
hallow nimbus
A not fast enough one XD
subtle glen
Oh shut up
hallow nimbus
So ?
rocky badge
Gimme that ping
subtle glen
Surprisingly I can actually play with low ping
And the speedtests have that low ping often
@hallow nimbus so you can't say your connection is slow xD
hallow nimbus
XD
IT IS SLOW
I mean its taking me like 2 weeks to upload 1.60TB
Go feel bad for this dude https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/960222-55-gbe-internet-what-hardware-router/
rocky badge
hallow nimbus
XD
subtle glen
Are there consumer routers that can support that speed tho?
Even if there were, its not worth it I would say
Just build a pf sense machine with an sfp card in it
hallow nimbus
I wouldnt go consumer level with those kinds of speeds
i would go ballin level
BRB
subtle glen
Hell yeah
5 isp's offer 10gbps???? here a lot of people don't even have fttc 100 mbps!!!
hallow nimbus
XD
hallow nimbus
๐ฎ
subtle glen
FFS
hallow nimbus
Send like 10 of those 10Gbit connections this way
So i can have 1 stable gigabit ๐
subtle glen
Ffffff
hallow nimbus
Because the other 9 are prob throtled XD
slow mirage
...
rocky badge
oof
subtle glen
Maybe I will be able to host more than 2 players on my mc server with that 10 gbps connection
subtle glen
๐
at least the home owner here has a decent connection
He shares it between 3 apartments so I guess that's good
hallow nimbus
XD
subtle glen
Faster than mine for sure
First thing I will do when I come back home: check if the ONT has been terminated
hallow nimbus
XD
meager hazel
@rocky badge you say everything is slow
subtle glen
And I'm still waiting a response from the email I sent to the isp to know if I will have a fiber jack or a fiber jack with a media converter
rocky badge
When did I say that ๐
hallow nimbus
Blobs connection is slow
meager hazel
hallow nimbus
XD
meager hazel
@rocky badge ^^^^^^^^^
rocky badge
xD
subtle glen
Doesn't he have 500 mbps??
meager hazel
idk
meager hazel
prob like 100000000000 down and 1kb up
subtle glen
600?
rocky badge
I have 200/10
subtle glen
Oh
subtle glen
I remember 500
hallow nimbus
lmao
unreal wedge
hallow nimbus
You have like 10 upload less then me XD
subtle glen
FIBAH
hallow nimbus
Tf is that @unreal wedge ?
meager hazel
ohhhhhh
unreal wedge
Fibre.
hallow nimbus
Gimme
subtle glen
Gimme that thank you sir
meager hazel
fiber extange
unreal wedge
544 live fibres.