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XD

subtle glen
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its not new

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its prob expired already

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OOF

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TheRe WaS No WaRRaNty VoiD StiCKer

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at leats i didnt see it on the screws

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@waxen scroll ok done

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dang bro

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wheres moms shitty computer?

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She has two ipads

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they make up for the shitty PC

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ill draw mine tomorrow, im not gonna be sober enough for that in a bit

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Lol

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my mom uses a laptop from 2010

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i keep telling her that thing is gonna die

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XD

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she doesnt wanna buy a new one

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My dad's is old as well

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brb food

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uuuu

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That's uh

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Something we could see on google

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I guess

subtle glen
brittle mural
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So we're sharing pictures from google now?

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XD

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Hi

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@waxen scroll @clear igloo hello

clear igloo
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hey

stone yarrow
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Hi

clear igloo
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lol, looks like I'm not using Ubuntu 18.04 ever

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Everything is now YAML based from the base install

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bbl, updating servers

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Lol

clear igloo
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Windows takes forever to update, lol

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Oof

clear igloo
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One day the AD server will finish updating and shutdown, lol

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Windows Server 2016?

clear igloo
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yah

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At work?

clear igloo
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no

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Home?

clear igloo
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Yup, need to swap out the drive backplane on the server and I need the VMs to shutdown to poweroff the server

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I thought you had work

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It's Saturday

clear igloo
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It is

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๐Ÿ˜„

clear igloo
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Saturday, not work ๐Ÿ˜›

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Lol

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I just want to use pfsense as my router...

clear igloo
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Still not working?

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My dad says when we clean, we will

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Because we're gonna put it in the basement

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It's "loud" and hot

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My mom is a light sleeper, the noise of the server will keep her awake

clear igloo
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ah

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makes sense

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So we'll have to run Ethernet down there, move the modem down there, put a switch down there, and run Ethernet back up and put a switch there

clear igloo
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Fun fun stuff ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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Let me make a diagram real quick

clear igloo
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Wait, you have cable though, why two cables?

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of ethernet*

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Modem -> Pfsense -> switch -> switch -> router and pc

clear igloo
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Why not an AP instead?

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Because I can put our existing router in AP mode

clear igloo
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Cool

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Dad said we might run Ethernet to my room as well

clear igloo
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Oh, nice

icy jasper
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Can somebody here help me with my problem with OpenVPN because I'm trying to set it up on my Linux server but I keep getting this error message when I started it up

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try running the command with -v

icy jasper
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It didn't work

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I'm using the command systemctl start openvpn@server

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and my Linux distro for my server is CentOS

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theres your issue

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welp you're gonna need to make this thing spit out more info than it is, your logging is cut off

icy jasper
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Well it keeps giving me the error message when I start the OpenVPN server on CentOS Linux

clear igloo
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Oooof, didn't realize I need a PERC card for my server

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@rocky badge Ship me a PERC H310 plz

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I don't have a PERC H310

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Buy one off of Amazon or eBay

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@clear igloo

clear igloo
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I did but I want it faster

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Shipping from me won't be any faster either

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Please kill me

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I'm having to use Intel integrated graphics

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And the internet is slow af

clear igloo
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ouch

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But this laptop is meh

waxen scroll
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I have a perc h700

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I have perc 5/i

clear igloo
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Gimmie @waxen scroll

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Lol

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Eww software raid

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Ewwwww

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Software raid

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if you hate it why are you running a perc 5/i

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๐Ÿ˜„

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time for me to watch the WAN show

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Lol

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@clear igloo I'm bored

clear igloo
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ok

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noted

subtle glen
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fix pfsense

clear igloo
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lol

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subtle glen
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ah

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I'm laying down on a bench

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Bored

subtle glen
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remote connect and fix mine

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also my plex server, my minecraft server, the router pool....

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what else

clear igloo
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Fix me a briefcase of $100 bills

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mmmm

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@clear igloo can you stack together 2 cisco switches without that special port

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Only the Catalyst 4500-X, 4500, 6500, and 7600 via VSS. Otherwise the Catalyst 9500 can do it via front panel ports

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catalyst 2950 ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

clear igloo
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Nope

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i have 3 of them with diff number of ports

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i guess the IOS is the same

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or na

clear igloo
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IOS is the same on them all, probably old but the same syntax

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one has 2 1gbps Link aggregation ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

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still old

clear igloo
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Yah

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They are good for a basic lab though

subtle glen
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the bearings of the fan are broken

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๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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it does a rly annoying sound

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My friend killed a switch

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tf

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By leaving it in the rain

clear igloo
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lol

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wha

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why

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It was a good switch

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48 gbe

subtle glen
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Ip 45 switch

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4 SFP+ uplink

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

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hes dumb

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but like 1 why was it outside 2 if i saw just one gray cloud, i would have took it inside

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Along with servers

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And laptops

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And it was a good server....

clear igloo
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I know a guy who dropped a million dollar linecard for an ASR9010

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lol

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They have a ton of laptops

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With core i5 vpro

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buy a laptop station in ltt style

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8gb of ram

subtle glen
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12 of those

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that seems dirt

clear igloo
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Looks like a smoker had one, or it was in an industrial environment

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Lmao

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why

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isnt that a server rack

clear igloo
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Cuz it's for meat ๐Ÿ˜›

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Lol

clear igloo
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Or bread, I can't tell

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thought it was a rack one

clear igloo
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Probably same style

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Easier to move the shelves around

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ah yeah, its missing the side things to put the screws

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how many U's is your rack @clear igloo

clear igloo
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45RU

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I used to use most of it too but then I consolidated, got rid of a lot of the old gear and whatnot

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Lol

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Nice

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im actually surprised how can a piece of metal cost that much

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I paid maybe $300 for mine

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It's pretty solid

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a 12 u is already 130 euros

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Question is, does it have the sides and a top cover?

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Yah, that's why.

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Those are usually designed for silence too, depending on the model obviously

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wat, it was white

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PNG* I mean

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rly??

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Silence and it has built in cooling

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doesnt have it

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it says it can support fans

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2 120 mm ones

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Yah, it's got support for cooling

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the first one i sent also has that

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its bigger and costs less, maybe diff type of material?

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or poor quality?

clear igloo
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Probably aluminum vs steel or something

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Am i reading this right

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Lmao

clear igloo
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or low quality aluminum vs high quality

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the last one can support 60 kg

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lets see the first one

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same, 60 kg

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one is cold rolled steel the other is metal

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more or less

clear igloo
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Nice

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Nice

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im disappointed in my washer/dryer

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i just got them

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they have wifi

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the app sucks

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also who would ever need to start loads remotely?

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who does that

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if you load the washer or dryer, press start

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why press "remote start" then start it later by phone

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maybe im crazy

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No, that's stupid, lol

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Lmao

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Ed on TechSource has a pair too, I see no point in it

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yeah i thought the whole "press remote start" before you leave the house was stupid too

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๐Ÿ˜„

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i didnt buy these just for the wifi though, so whatever

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Good ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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Is that just for you? @waxen scroll

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the devices on the visio?

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Yeah

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all of them are mine except two phones and two laptops

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my parents visit for a few months per year

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so i just tossed them in

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i do carry two phones on me monday through friday

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xD

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@clear igloo im one of those people who doesnt let work exceed 40hr whenever possible

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i can disconnect by tossing away the phone

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Same, I'll do 50 if needed but that's it

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When I go home, I'm done for the day

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it really grinds my gears when i work with a boss who works long hours

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๐Ÿ˜„

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Lol

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Techsource bought then because he have too much money to spend

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I'm sure, the guy bought a $100K car so why not spend a couple grand on a washer/dryer

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ok does anyone know who tavarish is?

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im not sure im spelling it right

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you'll know what i mean

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No

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i had to block him from my youtube feed because hes click baiting like crazy with "my cheap lambo" in titles

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bitch it wasnt cheap

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His car is like 300grants

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stop bragging

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lol, wat

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It's a lambo

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I still want to know what's with all the hate bots on YT lately

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anyone watch cleetus mcfarland?

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fucking love that channel

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Never heard of them

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car stuff

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I don't do cars xd

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Blob is too young to drive

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Ah, not big into car stuff

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Lol

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i want to get into performance cars but i need to do a few things in life to position myself to afford that shit

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and i dont mean lambos, i mean like focus rs or others... modding, etc

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nice

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i do some car work now but i havent gone deep

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oil, tires, brakes, belts, the usual

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I'm gonna get an optima sx turbo

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When I have enough money

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i bought a quick jack at one point

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but my floors were too sensitive for it

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nifty thing

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it had some manufacturing imperfections that made marks on the floor, so i ended up returning it

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they told me no pinchpoints and the welds under it are pinch points

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xD

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lol

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whoops

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Lol

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@rocky badge why?

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Owo

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That video is up

clear igloo
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yup

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dat edgerouter

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so thats why they have so many internet issues during wan show

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wouldnt happen on a 4451

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XD

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lol, yah

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Even a 4351 would do very nicely

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i think they have gig, so im not sure

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200 Mbps to

400 Mbps

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gg

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RIP

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its a crime for a router that big to only do 400

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Ah yah, forgot the 4300s are more limited than the 4400s

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So long as they aren't doing 4G backup (which they wouldn't) then the 4K is pretty solid

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i see 4g in a ton of marketing materials for SD-WAN and i dont know anyone who does that

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Finally

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I'm home

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With good interwebz

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A ton of banks do it

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Backup for their branches and for their ATM machines

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Well

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I don't have to buy that switch anymore XD

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what switch?

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A small 5 port gigabit switch

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ah, why don't you have to buy it?

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My friend gave it to me XD

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that works ๐Ÿ˜„

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$50 I don't have to spend

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$50?!?!

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You can buy them for $20 off amazon

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*$33

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Not $50 XD

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Ah, it's managed

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Yeah

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Managed ftw!

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$20 is the unmanaged ones ๐Ÿ˜›

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unmanaged

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When people try to seem smart and talk like they know stuff
-.-

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Not you @rocky badge

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People in YT comments, lol

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XD

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I hate those people @clear igloo

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Whoops. I made a uh-oh

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and then it turns out I misread XD

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XD

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Finally, pfsense has a valid IP

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woo!

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Now to put it on the WAN

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I need more interfaces

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Not yet @clear igloo

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Just get some 40GbE NICs and you're good to go

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Overkill much?

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No

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"Futureproofing"

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I know I've got two PCI-X

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ouch

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Yeah..

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it's old...

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So no 40GbE for you then....

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And I know there's a PCI-e

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I dunno which gen

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Ik there's PCI-x nics

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Yah, should be cheap

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Oh god

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Old intel logo

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How would I do WiFi from pfsense? @clear igloo

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Just go from nic to switch

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I would advise not ๐Ÿ˜›

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then switch to aps?

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Oh! You mean via the switch

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Yeah

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I thought you meant directly in the same box

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NO

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That's dumb XD

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Waste $70 on a controller?

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Or run it on a pi

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RPi

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sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
echo 'deb http://www.ubnt.com/downloads/unifi/debian stable ubiquiti' | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/100-ubnt.list > /dev/null
sudo wget -O /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/unifi-repo.gpg https://dl.ubnt.com/unifi/unifi-repo.gpg
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install unifi oracle-java8-jdk โ€“y
sudo systemctl disable mongodb
sudo systemctl stop mongodb
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then go to
https://<pi-ip-addr>:8443

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Then it's regular setup from there

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I already have a Pi

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I have SD cards already

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Then you're set

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Enough Pis for a 14 year old?

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no

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more!

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buy me more

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f

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Should I plug this pi into my main network or my pfsense?

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I'm thinking main network, so I don't have to power on pfsense again XD

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yah

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main network

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pfsense

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@rocky badge csr1000v

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what is that @waxen scroll

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He doesn't have a license for that ๐Ÿ˜›

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What is it Mr. Cisco aka @clear igloo

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It's a virtual router that runs as a VM

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oh

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I love this

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Add a file ssh no file extension in the boot partition

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And it will enable ssh without you touching it

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nice

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@clear igloo then get him a licence. It's free for you

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๐Ÿ˜„

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cisco once accidently gave me 5 licenses for free

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told me not to tell anyone

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now im telling

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lol

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Those are SMART licenses, I'll get in trouble ๐Ÿ˜›

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they were supposed to be lab licenses and they gave me the real deal

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With that error, you know it works XD

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ya know blob

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im not a forum member

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What?

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im discord exclusive!

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do you participate in networking on the forum

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No

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I don't do the LTT forums

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I have an account

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But I only use it for FP

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I'm a regular on the networking forum but there are maybe 3 or 4 others who regularly show up there these days

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May 27

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too many home networking questions?

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yeah

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I lurk

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I don't answer

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XD

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@clear igloo One thing I hate about UniFi's web gui

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WHITE theme

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lol, don't hate

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But then the settings have a dark background...

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lol, wat

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Why can't the whole site use the dark background

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#cloudkey

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Hey

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I saved $70

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XD

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i guess

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i have the GameFirst IV program from ASUS. Would this allow me to stream Youtube over Wi-Fi and game over Ethernet?

cedar igloo
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@waxen scroll @clear igloo hello

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Yo

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so i dont know about gamefirst, but technically speaking its not possible to use two interfaces on the same network (wifi/ethernet)

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theres ways, but theres no way gamefirst is doing it IMO

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@clear igloo tunnel all the things

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asus aint paying for that

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my guess is the reason it says "ethernet" there is because it allows different profiles depending on what your network is

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switching it to wifi probably wont do anything

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Lol

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@waxen scroll why are you thinking

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Thinking is bad fot your health

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Stop thinking

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networking is a thinking profession

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It's the weekend

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Stop thinking

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thinking intensifies

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Thonk

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Thunk

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thinkies

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zoomies

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woah

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@waxen scroll why couldn't you use both interfaces on the same network? since they have different mac addresses, wouldn't they just each get an IP from dhcp and still work? it just wouldn't auto load balance or anything

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@pseudo moat I believe it was the outside and inside interfaces in the same subnet which would cause firewall issues

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what do you mean by outside and inside

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Outside internet facing interface and inside facing interface

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I can't remember though, don't want to scroll up that far ๐Ÿ˜›

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but his machine isn't directly on the wan, there is a router in front

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so aren't both interfaces on a private subnet?

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He was trying to get internet right?

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Or was it access issues, I forget

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he was trying to load balance

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stream youtube on wifi, game on ethernet

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OH! I thought you were talking about something else completely

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lol

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There was someone with a pfSense issue who had two interfaces in the same subnet, though you were referring to that xD

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oh

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that makes much more sense now XD

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Haha, yah

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i was like, "what on earth is this guy talking about", good to know XD

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Lol

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For THAT issue @pseudo moat it would be due to the fact it still leaves the same pipe I think so it wouldn't cause any benefit in the end

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yeah i agree

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i was just commenting on not being able to have both interfaces active

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Oh, yah, you could bridge them

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Hey guys, I'm looking into proxies rn and trying to find the fastest out there for U.S. residents

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I got PIA but I'm only getting 35mbit up/down (and I have a gigabit connection)

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and that just won't do

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anyone know of a good proxy service that is great on speeds?

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and low latency

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huh, that's interesting. I have PIA and I get 70-80Mb/s
But ah, Express VPN is one of the fastest, but one of the most expensive

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I had PureVPN before and that was trash. haha.

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I only got like 8Mb/s on that

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I don't have PIA ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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I use my own VPN

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yea, i'm looking for proxies tho, not a vpn. it seems no VPN gets above 100mbit

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I'm gonna make a VPN on my VPS

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For that 800/700 connection ๐Ÿ˜„

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i tried PIA's proxy, but the latency was horrible

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and the only host they offer is in Amsterdam

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so my latency is like 130ms +

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takes way too long for pages to show up

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when its connected its fine, i get like 500mbit on the PIA proxy, but that latency is just too much

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anyone have any fast low latency proxy services?

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@rocky badge Wow, that must be nice to have your own VPS. haha

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Yeah

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OK @clear igloo lab time

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2 intf in windows

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i manually told windows that the interface priority is the same, metric 10

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this is the result

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right away we can see that as a default gw, windows cannot use two interfaces

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what if we add a static route

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1.1.1.1

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1.1.1.1 return traffic and source traffic does go through the second interface

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i can tell you for sure that linux doesnt do this without hacking

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so if you want your windows game to use wifi on the same subnet as hard wire, you need static routes to the game company

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that is hard AF to get out of them

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so tl;dr for windows i was only half right

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but it takes work

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lol

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@rocky badge weekendthink.gif

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Lol

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windows is keeping separate arp tables per interface, which i dont remember it ever doing

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could be new

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@waxen scroll REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, my dad doesn't want me to spend $200 on this.... wtf

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Switch, Ethernet, AP, and a nic

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shrug

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He legit suggested to put the server on WiFi..... ._.

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i agree, do it

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๐Ÿ˜„

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when you get to the corporate world this happens a lot

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all you can do is get them to admit they are ok with the risks in email, store it for later, then do it

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Problem.... I can't put it on WiFi...

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What did I miss?

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you missed a lab

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awww ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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@clear igloo Hmm, so looking into VIRL more, how much RAM would you say it needs? I read online that it needs like 16GB+ of RAM
I'm thinking of buying a Z77 board and bringing my old 2500K back to life with some DDR3 (since DDR4 costs so much)

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64gb

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If you can get 32GB of RAM or more, do it

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Yeah, I was looking at 32GB. DDR4 I can't even touch. lol

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and keep in mind you'll need way more than 64gb and a beefy CPU if you want a few IOS XR devices

clear igloo
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Yah, XR is hungry but if @gritty owl is just doing some IOS-XE devices like CSR level stuff, 32GB should be plenty

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and a few 3850 switches or whatever VIRL supports there

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Yeah, I don't plan to go crazy yet, just want to get something going for labbing for CCNA.

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you dont really need a switch for CCNA if you're good at study, so you can do GNS3 or some free thing that supports just routers, or packettracer which has switches but limited features

clear igloo
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Yah, unless you plan to move up after the CCNA to CCNP level stuff then maybe start with GNS3

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darn you Cisco for all of the acronyms

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Well, I hope to get to CCNP stuff afterwards for sure.

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Haha, I agree with blob

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Cisco Unified Network Troubleshooter

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That was almost a real thing btw

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i almost made one myself

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when i was a level 2 tech we just did problems all damn day

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i almost automated my job

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the tool was going to be called "noimpact"

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its an inside joke

clear igloo
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lol

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basically bad techs would log in to devices, see BGP is up for 30 seconds and then close the ticket out "site is up"

clear igloo
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Surprised nobody got that one though ๐Ÿ˜›

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so i was gonna make a tool that did my job

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pick in the menu what type of alert it is

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switch, AP, whatever

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tell it the hostname, GO

clear igloo
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That sounds like a nice tool to have

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then the script does all of your due diligence and tracing for you, maybe flaps PoE for a dead AP, then you just paste the output into the ticket and close it if it finds no more issue

gritty owl
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that sounds really nice

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We've got some nice internal tools for bug finding and whatnot

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Paste in a config, tells you what bugs you could hit based on the features, recommends software versions for remediation, etc.

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Not perfect, I think it's only for a few platforms, but it's a start

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only script i ended up making was automatic F5 node or pool watching

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you know, the problem happens once a day and the vendor goes "well, you need to catch it"

clear igloo
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Those are fun

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never at the same time either

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this is a bit of a mess because im not a pro

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but it works

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but yeah, dump it on an F5, specify the settings, and it will manage tcpdump for you

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when an issue occurs it stops tcpdump

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you dont have to watch a thing

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oops

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need to reupload

clear igloo
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lol

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LOL

clear igloo
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Did you forget to comment something out?

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yeah

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sec

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Lol

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ok anyways, i gotta go for a bit bbl

clear igloo
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later

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@rocky badge its time for a linus tech tip

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?

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o0o this video has some production values in it

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Lol

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WHAT?! it has no fan?

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@rocky badge game changer

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WHAT

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ikr

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WordPress

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I was kind of hoping they would stick the blowiematron (aka the high RPM delta fan) in that PC and overclock it. haha

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damn it I kind of want to buy that stupid scary looking asus router

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go ahead

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let us know how bad or good the thing is

hollow helm
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its supposed to come out in q3

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so will need to wait a bit ๐Ÿ˜›

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The AX router?

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@clear igloo @waxen scroll hello

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yo

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best VPN solution for a small business?

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40ish PCs on network, looking to allow VPN access to 2-3 specific people

clear igloo
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For just a couple people, OpenVPN or something should work well

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If they have an ASA already, any connect is free for a few license I believe. Otherwise yeah, probably openvpn

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@hollow helm I've had bad experience with Asus routers :(

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One of their wireless AC models had really terrible 5ghz and would drop

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Haven't bought since

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They gave me warranty problems too

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Shipped the same unit back, did nothing

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Now I'm team ubiquiti

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Unless a nice Cisco employee hooks me up

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I've never use Asus

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And is Lurick that nice Cisco employee? @waxen scroll

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No

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@waxen scroll you wish they would hit u up

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I'm a huge customer, they hit me up monthly

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Sometimes I mention juniper to keep them on their toes

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Yeah I may go for netgear instead

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netgear has always been great for me

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I own something like 30,000 Cisco devices

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Wot

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Same I dont get any issues with them @hollow helm

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@hollow helm Go pfsense!

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Jk, Netgear is nice. I'm currently using a Netgear R7000

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Isn't that router like $400

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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Omg

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Looking like netgear is very keen on pushing their 'gaming' routers

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Why...

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Probably because they make more money off them

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Throw 'gaming' into the name of a product and give it an aggressive aesthetic and people will pay more

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Yeah, I'm tempted to build an anti gaming computer that's good for gaming

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Supermicro parts and such

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lol

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Lol

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Cheaper and performs just as well or better

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Black box, no windows, no lights

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lol

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They put RGB lights on routers now? sigh

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haha

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"Now I'm team ubiquiti"
I had asus RMA issues too

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I thanked the lord that I has purchased a Squaretrade plan on it

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I was thinking OpenVPN as well

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Just wanted to see if people had anything against that or other opinions

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@gritty owl the kind of switch linus would like in his server room

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haha, it would fit right in

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if there was a 48 port/faster version yeah

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he would prob fill the rack with it

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maybe aura sync compatible

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lol, ASUS would do that

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lol

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Ew

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linus should have put rgb fans in its storinators

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I'm surprised he didn't to be honest. haha

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wow, that is quite robust (and expensive)

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but if you have a switch, it would be hard to plug the connector closer to another one

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@clear igloo Do Dual CPU Sockets Matter in 2018?

clear igloo
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Always

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great.

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now can you buy some dollar shave club?

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would be gr8

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@rocky badge it would be dank A.F. yo

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What

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@waxen scroll

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anyone have experience with DNS settings?

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probably

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Im connecting a domain to a squarespace website

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the CNAME records are being weird

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its showing ive changed the data, but its adding the domain onto it also

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namecheap?

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what?

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dont worry i fixed it

waxen scroll
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@waxen scroll @clear igloo hello

clear igloo
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Who dares summon me!

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hides

clear igloo
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stomps

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runs

clear igloo
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cables network

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ruins network

clear igloo
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Y u do dis?

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To mess with you

clear igloo
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Oh, ok

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introduces a bug into @rocky badge 's netgear switch which drops traffic one way between only two hosts

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What

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oh, do you think im insane

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maybe i am

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thats a real problem in the real world that i had to troubleshoot once

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Lol

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why did it happen? deep in the OS which i cannot reach as a customer a 0 changed to a 1 in some table it keeps

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extreme networks switch

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purple in color

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never did like that

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it made new hardware look cheap

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watching the support guy working in debug mode was a trip

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he would issue the asics commands and the commands were long strings of cryptic information

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Our school has ExtremeNetworks switches

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@clear igloo this guy on linkedin is insane

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hes done this to me once before and i ignored his invite, now hes back

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trying again

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he tries to get me to accept an invite to bypass the linkedin mail limitations

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Lol

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then he tries to get me to do work for him DAY OF

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are you kidding me dude

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im not gonna trust some random telling me last minute to go to a client of his, especially if we dont have an existing contract to get me paid

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for all i know he skips out on paying or wants to offer $10/hr

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๐Ÿ˜„

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Core Responsibilities
Facilitates training of lower grade technicians to better understand
Telnet, and Command Line Interface commands into the CMTS's, Routers,
Switches, etc.

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comcast throwing shade at their own people

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"lower grade" is a little harsh

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Lol

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"Regular, consistent and punctual attendance. Must be able to work
nights and weekends, variable schedule(s) and overtime as necessary."

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if thats in a job description, run

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the attendance part

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tells you what kind of management they have, what kind of people work there, etc

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lol

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that low grade part already raised an eyebrow

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Lol

clear igloo
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Yup

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How do you use Discord at work? @clear igloo

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What do you mean?

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I launch the app, lol

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same. i use my phone

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Oh

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I use it on my work PC ๐Ÿ˜›

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I mean on work devices or personal

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my policy is not to do anything like that on work resources ... ill do some things sparingly

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plus the shit they can do to you is scary

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some employers track time you waste, some sniff packets, some decrypt SSL

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Lol

clear igloo
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Yah, most places care if you do that stuff

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My school uses their own SSL certificate for Google

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They blocked Discord because I used it during class <.<

clear igloo
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lol

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I'm surprised they haven't blocked my site

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Lol

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Not enough traffic probably

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I may or may not have stuff I shouldn't be able to access from school on my site...

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i made a website back in the early 2000s with a cgi-proxy and it was setup in a way that a normie like a school admin wouldnt realize what it was

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i put it behind a paywall

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got students to pay me

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Lol

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they never blocked it

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they used websense and thats a very aggressive filter

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one of the kids in my class also ruined a bypass for everyone

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they were dumb and while they used a proxy to make the filter work, they didnt block 80/443

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so you can remove the proxy and the internet would work unfiltered

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this dude told them about it lol

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Lmao

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heres another lol

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they decided they didnt want students in the C drive

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and lets be honest, who does

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emulators were a HUGE problem at my school

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people would hide them

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they were scanning for emulators and games daily to auto delete

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Lol

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\\localhost\C$

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Bam

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anyway so they did this and sure enough you cant get at the C drive

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have you used XP much?

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No

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ok so there used to be a utility called disk cleanup

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it worked similar to ccleaner

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but more basic

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Oh

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i knew that when you opened it there was a button that said "view files"

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so i tried that

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LOL C: access

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once the folder opened, you could escape it

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Lol

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lets see... there was a way to open regedit as well, so you could enable what was basically a program that could broadcast network messages to one or more computers

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a few people were doing that but they were smart enough to limit it to a few computers

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back then if you did this crap it would probably be detention or less

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now i bet they would toss you in jail

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Wot

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I can't even open cmd.exe

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Or the run prompt

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security is much better now. there are also 3rd party apps that will just stop anything from running thats not on a list

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A lot of stuff is blocked at school blobsad

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when i was the admin for like 4 stores and maybe 10 computers, i was using 3rd party apps. one of them stopped unknown programs from running, another nuked the computer to a fresh state every time it restarted

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solved a crapload of problems and reduced bad things employees were doing

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like installing limewire, torrenting, etc

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Oof

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they were doing this on machines that they were also entering personal info into

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so not good

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Oh...

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so next time you go to a store like tmobile where the employees get bored and use the machines for other shit, beware LOL

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who knows if its got some malware stealing info

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i should clarify, non-corporate stores

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corporate is usually smarter

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mom and pop shops usually dont have an IT person until it breaks so bad its not usable

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@rocky badge its so quiet

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Yeah

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@subtle glen hows your pfsense

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eh....

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now i wouldnt use it 24/7 due to power consumption

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also the fact that i would have a diff subnet would mean i have to run cables to have everything on the same network

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which is probably what i will do

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@waxen scroll wooo, my VPN works

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you should have bought PIA

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help linus keep the lights on

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subtle glen
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Hey my vpn works!!

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

subtle glen
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having slow internet is such

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amazing

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subtle glen
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welcome

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Now I have to reboot

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crap

subtle glen
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mmm the ps2 has an ethernet port

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i should connect it aswell

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how come you havent consolidated this since you have a smart switch ;p

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caaaause i got it for free

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andi have no experience about that

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got that switch for free with few pc (7), 3 other cisco switches, one juniper router, cables, keyboards and mices

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๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿป

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What exactly is pf sense?

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Lol

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It's a router os

subtle glen
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sense*

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its an os you install on a machine to convert it into a router

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based on freebsd

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pfSense is an open source firewall/router computer software distribution based on FreeBSD. It is installed on a physical computer or a virtual machine to make a dedicated firewall/router for a network. It can be configured and upgraded through a web-based interface, and requi...

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there are a lot of interfaces there

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and what are the benefits of using pf sense?

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Not having to deal with ISP crap provided modem/router combo

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It's amazing, better than consumer shit, etc

subtle glen
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ooooo if lzdanger would hear that

hallow nimbus
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Do i look like i care ?

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XD

subtle glen
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i mean the fact that he said its amazing

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he doesnt like it

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you'll never use pfsense to replace a modem and many non-pfsense devices have additional acceleration features in hardware

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im not advocating for ISP provided routers

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what would you use if you have to choose a router os

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OS doesnt matter to me as much as hardware platform. for home use i prefer linux OS with drivers that support hardware acceleration

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much like ubiquiti does with their cavium chips

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i also look for power utilization. i want a low power CPU with hardware acceleration in a tiny box

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with pfsense you COULD put it on a raspi, but the CPU will be a huge bottleneck because no hardware acceleration

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so what do you do? put it on a midtower PC?

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so much power waste

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Lol

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I have a friend that uses a 3930K system for pfsense... lol

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I use a dual X5355 server for pfsense

gritty owl
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More powah

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im not sure how well even a 3930k will do for line rate speeds either

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i have a 3930k myself lol

gritty owl
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I'm plenty happy with my Edgerouter 4.
Oh, I'm still hanging on with a 2700K

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yeah i want to move to a new build but the costs of new high end is stupid compared to a few years ago

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and i dont want mid range

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whats funny is the new i5 6-core can beat my PC, but only in single thread

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Lol

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or you use such a router with its os, better than the isp one i guess

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every time i get close to having the money i want to use the money for other items.... new washer/dryer, vacations, whatever

subtle glen
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a quad socket xeon server....

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lol @waxen scroll

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thats what happens when you try to max out your retirement accounts every year

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nothing accumulating that fast

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@rocky badge it takes roughly $23,500 to max them

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Lol

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that could be a new PC fund

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๐Ÿ˜„

subtle glen
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mmmm

waxen scroll
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i need a new job, $30k more

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@waxen scroll Build a PC that's better than @clear igloo's

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what do i have to beat? ive probably already built one better

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i did the best i9 money can buy

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OOOO

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i got the i7 to replace my i3

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it broke sooo

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the i3 is fine

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yeah i beat that already

subtle glen
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thats a lot of fans

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ooh

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uuu i call for a challenge

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its not MY pc, but i did beat it with a friends build

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oh

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Cheater

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one of my friends pays barely anything in bills and hates investing

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so i get asked to build lots of things

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lol

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i would never pay $8k for a non-server

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lol

subtle glen
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ive built 4 of those

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they run hot

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xD

subtle glen
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๐Ÿ˜ฑ

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couldnt you steal a node?

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who would notice it

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they take no time to build.... just slap the cpu and memory in and done

subtle glen
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and all the 24 (48) disks

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ive messed with these too

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when i first opened it i was like WTF

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lol

subtle glen
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in what kind of chassis these go in

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dell r810

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it broke on the guy and dell sent him a CPU which i had to install into it

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i would make a 4U server with 4 of those modules you can swap in

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or a quad socket 65 drive storinator

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he had every memory slot populated... so i think it was 1TB+

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only?

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jk ofc

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my guess is that thing could handle maybe 300 VMs

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but can it run crysis

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no

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hehehehe

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wtf

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lol

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thats newer, i havent seen one IRL before. i havent worked with servers professional since 2012

subtle glen
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wtf is that

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its what you think it is

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Blade servers

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lol

subtle glen
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is that 24 U?

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shared hard drive media, then blade servers

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no wait 13 i think

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it has 5 psu

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an example of why a company would need something such powerful?

slow pivot
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to process 40-100Gbit of traffic /second

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so did /not/ work on that... whistles

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ooof

clear igloo
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Most large enterprises have dozens or more of something similar just to process traffic stats and data to get a handle on what's happening in the network

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Hai @clear igloo

clear igloo
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yo

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In the case I alluded to above, that system (obviously with more blade enclosures) was going to be installed to handle the full through-put of a large US carrier

clear igloo
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Nice

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Netflow or similar data I assume?

slow pivot
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nope

clear igloo
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Are you referring to a different but similar style box then since that SuperMicro is blade servers only?
Or did they do white-box stuff with that?

slow pivot
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We were using HP blades iirc at the time

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yeah, c7000s

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And no, we weren't white-labeling the equipment... we were installing and configuring our own software running on them

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Ah, you said full throughput of the network so I assumed it was white-box network gear since you said they weren't using it for netflow data collection or collection of similar network data

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Mostly curious but if you can't say that's cool, totally understand that stuff ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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yeah, it was data-processing on the full throughput of their network, but yeah, can't talk much more about it :/

clear igloo
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Ok, so data processing, I was close ๐Ÿ˜›

slow pivot
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๐Ÿ˜ƒ

clear igloo
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Getting into a lot of streaming telemetry/stats and whatnot so that's mostly why I was curious as to what it was being used for

slow pivot
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ah cool

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are you talking about overkill servers ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€

slow pivot
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overkill is relative... the system I worked on used all of that and we needed more

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but that was 10 years ago

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Hmm, so charter spectrum sales guy came by, apparently my area has fiber optic by spectrum.
The sales guy showed me the speed is up to 200 Mb/s...on download. Upload still not great sadly.
Though I'm kind of curious how the fiber system works...I wonder if they're fiber to the home now as well.

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Is there a modem?

gritty owl
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No idea, the guy didn't mention it.
He already kind of wtf that I mentioned I have a server rack. lo

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lol

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xd

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i can tell you yes without clicking that or your mistyping

gritty owl
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I don't know if I should click on it or not. lol

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ooops

waxen scroll
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maybe after he fixes it again

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for the second time

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;p

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๐Ÿ˜„

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I'm tired.... ok?

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And I suck at typing on laptop keyboards

gritty owl
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that link is dead to me. haha.

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link works for me

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Usually if it's an Arris modem it'll go to it's status page

gritty owl
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Oh, I have frontier fios

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OH

gritty owl
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The charter guy was trying to get me to switch

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haha