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subtle glen · 2018-06-22T17:30:32.367Z

but here comes the question : do you have smart pdu's ?

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:30 PM

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but here comes the question @clear igloo @tough bluff : do you have smart pdu's ?

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waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:30 PM

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think of all the wives and kids CCIE holders neglect

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:30 PM

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Yes

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:30 PM

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dont think so

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ah...

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well..

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 5:30 PM

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No, I don't need to for my rack at home

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 5:30 PM

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@waxen scroll lol

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:30 PM

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All the power is controlled via managed IP systems

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:31 PM

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fffff

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:31 PM

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My office and the it office is miles away from the server room

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:31 PM

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is that place some sort of disneyland for network admins

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:31 PM

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It would be a inconvenience to drive back

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 5:31 PM

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Lol

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 5:31 PM

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That's pretty awesome

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:31 PM

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Not Disney land

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Very industrial

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Disneys worst nightmare

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 5:32 PM

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lol

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 5:32 PM

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Lol

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:32 PM

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speaking of disney, half our department are disney fanatics

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i go every year

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 5:32 PM

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Sounds like my friend

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:32 PM

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i have never been to disneyland

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 5:32 PM

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Excpet he doesn't work

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:32 PM

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I go every year but can't go on rides

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 5:32 PM

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Rip

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:32 PM

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Disney world *

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:32 PM

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i got multiple people who work at disney world that can swipe me in the gates

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i never pay

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 5:33 PM

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thinkies

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:33 PM

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BUT can you remotely turn on the breaker if the power goes out and get a notification UHH?

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tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:33 PM

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Yes

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:33 PM

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MMMM

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:33 PM

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All our breakers anywhere are smart

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Even in the mills

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Its crucial to production

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:33 PM

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my main breaker is one 50 yrs old with fuses

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 5:33 PM

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The s may stand for smart but probably not for secure kappa

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:34 PM

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TBH fam, i wouldnt want a breaker turned on remotely... you need to ask "why did it trip?"

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 5:34 PM

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fam

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:34 PM

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that trips for overload

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 5:34 PM

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when old people use words like lit, fam, etc

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:34 PM

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We have a server that manages breakers and electrical

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:34 PM

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right, if it overloaded you need to go on site and ask why

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:34 PM

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WTF, a server even for that????

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:34 PM

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I'll get a notification on my dash board if something goes off

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:34 PM

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too many appliances

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:35 PM

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Plantation

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We have a steel mill

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:35 PM

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@rocky badge thats lit AF

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:35 PM

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Wood mill

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 5:35 PM

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Ewwwww

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:35 PM

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Alot of other growing operations

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 5:35 PM

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fo shizzle dawg

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 5:35 PM

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You used the word lit

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:35 PM

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my generation invented memes

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 5:35 PM

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the me me's

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 5:35 PM

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I don't care for memes

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😄

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:36 PM

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Memes make me question every thing

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 5:36 PM

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Indeed. haha

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:36 PM

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i called them "meh mes" for the longest time

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:37 PM

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We have a meme in my office and it bothers me so much

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 5:37 PM

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My friend spams DMs and my memes channel with memes everyday

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Lol

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:37 PM

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@waxen scroll we also have this model that automatically turns the power on only n times you set it to. If you set it to like 3 attempts, and it re-enga ge itself 3 times in a short period of time, it wont turn the power on cause it knows theres something wrong

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tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:37 PM

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That's sketch

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Ours dont auto turn on

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:37 PM

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AHHH

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:37 PM

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whats the amperage of that thing

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:37 PM

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There just connected to a management system

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:38 PM

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lemme check

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:38 PM

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You need to send a message to get them to click on

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 5:38 PM

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yeah, I wouldn't want a breaker to auto turn on. haha

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 5:38 PM

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Yeah

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 5:38 PM

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Sees the sparks

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lol

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:38 PM

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that thing looks like it cant do past 200a

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:38 PM

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you can set it to do it one time only

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:38 PM

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too small

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:38 PM

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if it trips again it wont turn on the power

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and if you move that orange cover on the side, you disable the auto turn on feature

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:39 PM

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You can literally see virtual breaker boxs on our management software

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:39 PM

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AAA

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 5:39 PM

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that's pretty awesome

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:39 PM

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like power plants?

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:39 PM

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It reminds me of a virtual office pc sim

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Yes and we have a power plant

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 5:39 PM

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Solar iirc xd

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:39 PM

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three phase transformer outside?

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:39 PM

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We are 100% off pole

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Solar

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:40 PM

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mmm

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:40 PM

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We have 3 fields with it

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 5:40 PM

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Oh, that's nice

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:40 PM

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Powers everything

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:40 PM

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dont you like the idea to power your stuff with "GASOLINE"??

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 5:40 PM

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I hope to get solar panels some day

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:40 PM

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As we are a green company

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:40 PM

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jk

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:40 PM

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Our steel mill produces zero black smoke

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It's all filtered

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:41 PM

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my dad's company planted N trees to compensate the co2 they produce

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:41 PM

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We clear trees

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And plant in a new location stupid far away

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Then we used the cleared area make a new building

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And process wood

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:42 PM

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ohh you use one of those machines that "hug" the tree and transport it away?

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:42 PM

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The entire building goes up for practical nothing since we manufacture materials

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We grab it

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And it gets put into a truck

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Then the mill does the rest

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We can process a few thousand trees a day

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:43 PM

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📎 Stocker_2B8_2B2.png

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:43 PM

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No

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We arent cutting the stump till later

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:44 PM

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it doesnt cut it

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:44 PM

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We are trying to kill the tree

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:44 PM

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tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:44 PM

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Not save it

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:44 PM

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ahhahahah

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the heli seems small from that perspective

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:44 PM

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We make studs and plywood

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 5:45 PM

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@waxen scroll lol

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 5:45 PM

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Oh, that's nice. Putting them trees to use

tough bluff Jun 22, 2018, 5:45 PM

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Wood that is used in house building

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I'm a administrator for the farming and wood

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I dont touch steel

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:47 PM

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subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:48 PM

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@waxen scroll that model seems to be a 32 A "anti overload" breaker+ "anti short socket" breaker with a current to trip it of 300 mA (which is the one we need to have on our breakers)

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dunno how u call your breakers

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:48 PM

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you can see the power jumping to the chopper

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that little blip

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:48 PM

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yep

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW-yzxEF4G4

YouTube

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Playing With High Voltage

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ahh that ZZZZ sound is satisfying

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(referred to the Americans) how do you call the breaker that trips for overload and the one for short circuit ?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:52 PM

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overload i believe we call a main

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short circuit is just called circuit breaker

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:53 PM

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and those 2 cables at the top are the phase right?

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waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:54 PM

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yes

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 5:54 PM

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Yep

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:55 PM

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still dont like that open neutral bus bar

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 5:55 PM

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One very clean looking breaker panel though

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:55 PM

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not mine tho

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we have totally different systems

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:55 PM

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my breakers are color coded on the wires

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:55 PM

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lol

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now i wanna see it

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 5:55 PM

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Same. haha.

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:55 PM

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im too lazy to open it

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😄

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:55 PM

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ohh 😔

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 5:55 PM

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It just drives me nuts when electricians use green as a hot wire. So many shocks because of that...

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:56 PM

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WTF???

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green??

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:56 PM

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my house also has a high voltage fire alarm and high voltage smoke detectors

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 5:56 PM

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Oh, that's nice

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:56 PM

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😄

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:56 PM

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wdym high voltage

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they use 120 v?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:56 PM

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yes

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:56 PM

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ah

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well, u dont have to change batteries

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:57 PM

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you do

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battery backup for power outages

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:57 PM

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ahhh, well

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we dont even have fire alarms in home soooo

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:57 PM

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its code here.... they're wired together so if one goes off they all do

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:57 PM

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lol

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in the middle of the night

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weeeeeeee

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i mean thats its purpose

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:58 PM

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then the high voltage fire alarm is part of a sprinkler system

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water flow trips it

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:58 PM

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yeah but do u have methane alarms?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:59 PM

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no, just carbon monoxide

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 5:59 PM

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I need to get some better alarms at our house...I think they're all expired too. lol

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 5:59 PM

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i need to get an alarm, i dont have one

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:59 PM

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then i layered a low voltage alarm ontop of this whole thing

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 5:59 PM

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geez, that's neat

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 5:59 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/TMBZs2d.jpg

Imgur

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potato quality

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:00 PM

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controller for alarms?

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 6:00 PM

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that's really nice

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:00 PM

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do you live in a castle with 100+ rooms

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:00 PM

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3000sqft

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:00 PM

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lemme convert that in m2^

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:01 PM

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so that little relay circuit to the right is an interface that the high voltage alarms can trip

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it waits 10sec before telling the low voltage that theres an alarm

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helps prevent falses

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:01 PM

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can i go there and light a lighter under it?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:02 PM

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if you do, bring ear protection

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all of this is seriously loud

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😄

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:02 PM

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like those small but annoying fire alarms

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:02 PM

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its got two sirens and then the smoke detectors themselves are redic loud

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:03 PM

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weewooweewoo

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so you can let the neighbours theres a fire in ur house

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:03 PM

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and @clear igloo no thats not ethernet in there

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:03 PM

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does it call the fire department too?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:03 PM

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thats an RS485 bus

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it does

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:03 PM

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ive seen such a module for arduino stuff

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:04 PM

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on the security side i think i have about 35 sensors attached to it

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:04 PM

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that panel doesnt stand to my "super tidy" breaker. Now with the wrong breakers inside

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:05 PM

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whats neat is theres a module for my home automation kit, vera, which any time a sensor is tripped the alarm tells vera

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so i can do things like "if garage opens, turn on outside lights"

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no additional sensors

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:05 PM

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cool stuff

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pretty interested in domotics too

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do american houses have "the safety rope" in the shower? i dont know how to call it

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:07 PM

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hmm... not that i know of? not sure what you mean but theres no rope thing

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:07 PM

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wait lemme search for a pic

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:08 PM

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so i went balls to the wall

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door/window sensors, garage sensor

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motion

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glass break

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if you DIY you might as well

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not like you're paying $$$$$ to a company

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:09 PM

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wait let me go in the bathroom to take a picture, i cant find a decent one

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:09 PM

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lol

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 6:09 PM

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I hope to build a new house and go crazy with the sensors as well

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:09 PM

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its a pain in the ass because sensors are mostly in outside walls

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 6:10 PM

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Yeah, it's pretty hard to do for an existing home

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:10 PM

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you can go wireless but i didnt want any batteries

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35 batteries every 6 months or so? LOL no

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 6:11 PM

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what kind of sensors you looking at?

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Mine need changing every 2 years or so

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:11 PM

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who?

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 6:11 PM

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You

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 6:11 PM

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Yeah, the DIY home alarms pretty much all use battery?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:11 PM

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as far as wireless? none. i never researched or gave it a chance

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im OK wiring

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:11 PM

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me too

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 6:11 PM

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Ah, that's cool

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 6:11 PM

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What wired sensors do you use?

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Might bookmark them for the future., haha

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:12 PM

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Lol

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:12 PM

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@gritty owl you can use any sensors, 2 wire or 4 wire... theres no compatibility issue. i use honeywell motions and glass breaks, then whatevers cheap and good for the doors and windows

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 6:12 PM

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Sounds good. haha

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:12 PM

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@gritty owl you're in the Ubiquiti server thinkies

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gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 6:12 PM

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haha, yep.

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:13 PM

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I don't chat in there

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I'm just there 😄

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:13 PM

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im going to put a zone expander on this alarm and add water detection

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 6:13 PM

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Same. I've bought some stuff on the ubiquiti server though

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:13 PM

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make sure the basement and laundry doesnt leak

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 6:13 PM

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That's pretty nice

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:13 PM

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basically there is this rope that is connected to a push switch (like a bell one) connected to a buzzer (like a doorbell one). In case you feel sick during a shower or in case of emergency, you pull the rope and the buzzer starts ringing

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:14 PM

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yeah we dont have that anywhere

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:14 PM

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interesting

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 6:14 PM

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Yeah, I've never seen that rope

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:14 PM

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i used to pull it to tell my dad i finished showering when i was a kid

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i told him "2 pulls and ive done showering, 1 pull im in trouble"

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:16 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/MAGNEPULL-XP1000-LC-MS-1-Fishing-System-MAGNESPOT/dp/B007F125LO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1529691351&sr=8-3&keywords=cable+pull+magnet

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im going to buy one of these eventually

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:16 PM

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@waxen scroll ofc you like running cables, you have drywalls and wood...

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:16 PM

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its going to make wire running stupid easy

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yep

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:16 PM

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thats something im jealous about american houses

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for the rest, i prefer italian things

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especially electrical ones

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like the plugs we have, the switches we have, our breakers, our voltage...

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:18 PM

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i try to DIY high voltage too

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:18 PM

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you have dual phase

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you can 240v

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:18 PM

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getting people to do it out here is stupid expensive

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:18 PM

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we have it standard

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 6:18 PM

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I wish residential homes get three phase here

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:18 PM

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$150 to switch a light switch to zwave

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:18 PM

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or you can request 3 phase

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:18 PM

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how stupid

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:19 PM

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the power company puts you a 3 phase meter unlocked to 10 Kw min

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gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 6:19 PM

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Sadly not all areas in the US you can get three phase. Usually only in the industrial areas where the poles have the wires needed for it

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:20 PM

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still dont understand why they choosed 110 v

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:20 PM

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we might be able to get 3 phase here but my neighborhood is far from the pole, so i dont know what they actually put in the neighborhood boxes

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 6:20 PM

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@waxen scroll is that what they wanted to charge you do to that switch?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:20 PM

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@clear igloo yep

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:20 PM

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maybe a janky solution. A mono phase motor coupled with a three phase one xD

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 6:20 PM

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lol, no thanks. I did all mine myself, not paying $150 per, lol

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:21 PM

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most of my boxes have a neutral wire, so theres no work

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:21 PM

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i rly want to put a grounding rod in my garage but, how do i break (reinforced maybe) concrete

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:21 PM

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i was unsure about the 3 way wiring of the switch so i wanted to call a guy

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when he told me the cost i was like NO

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 6:21 PM

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haha, yah

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:22 PM

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i "toned" out the wires myself

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:22 PM

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hell no, to the no no noo

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:22 PM

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they werent marked so i was a little nervous about DIY

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:22 PM

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use a phase tool to find which is the phase

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dunno the name

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 6:22 PM

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Ah, yah, that can be nerve wracking at first

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:22 PM

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its not the phase/hot i didnt know, its the two traveler cables

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 6:23 PM

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yeah, it's tricky to figure out

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:23 PM

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ah

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 6:23 PM

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I've gotten shocked a few times with 3 way troubleshooting

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lol

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:23 PM

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shocked with 110v

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pffff

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try getting shocked with 230

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:24 PM

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12v at 100 amps

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 6:24 PM

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I've been shocked by 480V before

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Not fun. lol

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:24 PM

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now we can open a discussion

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its the voltage that kills you

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i believe electroboom

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:24 PM

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ive heard its the amperage that kills you

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 6:24 PM

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^

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:24 PM

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12v can kill

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 6:24 PM

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Well, voltage makes it more likely to kill you

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 6:25 PM

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That's why 10K volts from a stun gun doesn't kill you

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with low amperage

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:25 PM

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so the reason DC can kill is theres no alternation

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 6:25 PM

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Yep

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:25 PM

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you hold onto it and lock in

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no break

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😄

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 6:25 PM

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Yah

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:25 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDf2nhfxVzg

YouTube

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waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:25 PM

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that guys eyebrows creep me out

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:26 PM

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lol look at its outro

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:26 PM

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@rocky badge why are you not discussing anything

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😃

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:26 PM

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I'm playing in VR

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I'm legit sweaty from it

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 6:27 PM

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"playing" xD

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:27 PM

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i guess its cause we went a lil but out of theme

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:27 PM

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i play with myself too sometimes

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its normal

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:27 PM

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@waxen scroll I punched the wall

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:27 PM

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v_v

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LOL

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:27 PM

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I didn't see it

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 6:27 PM

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You're not supposed to play that hard, lol

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:28 PM

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It's Superhot VR

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:28 PM

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good. now blob can learn drywall repair

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:28 PM

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You're punching people

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 6:28 PM

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^

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 6:28 PM

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That's some dedication

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:28 PM

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There's no damage

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 6:28 PM

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Did you cuddle with the wall after?

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:28 PM

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to me, my controller, or the wall

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:29 PM

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do some american houses have power coming from underground cables? or theres always that pole in the street that gives power

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 6:29 PM

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Most of the cities and towns do poles to a point and then underground

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:29 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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all i got to do is press PLAY

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:30 PM

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Lol

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 6:30 PM

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DO EETTT!!

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:30 PM

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https://linusdrop.tips/6da02600.png

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Rip my laptop

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 6:30 PM

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Toasty

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:30 PM

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I'm glad I turned off my server before this

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 6:30 PM

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That's how hot my 7900X get's after 20 minutes at 100% 😃

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:30 PM

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is that unlicensed aida64 i see?

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:30 PM

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It would get hot af in here

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It's HWmonitor

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 6:31 PM

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OOOOO! Unlicensed!! I'm calling the internet police

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:31 PM

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my grandma pc shuts off for overheating if i play minecraft

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:31 PM

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I do have Aida 64 tho

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https://linusdrop.tips/d7749e76.png

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 6:31 PM

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I haven't used it myself...mostly use Intel Burn Test for OC

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:31 PM

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that laptop has win vista, an intel centrino, 512 mb of video ram

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 6:32 PM

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Vista shudder

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 6:32 PM

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Wow, been a while since I've seen centrino. haha

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:32 PM

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using putty when secureCRT exists

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:32 PM

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XD

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:32 PM

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@clear igloo now i reiceve pop ups saying "windows vista is not supported" uuuu

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or on chrome "you wont reiceve updates cause win vista is not supported"

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:33 PM

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@clear igloo some implementations i got like 8 tabs open

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 6:33 PM

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8 tabs of CRT?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:33 PM

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yeah

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:33 PM

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Who tf is using all of my internet xd

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:34 PM

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will i fill my 48 port switch 🤔 .those are the questions i think about before going to sleep

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:34 PM

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https://linusdrop.tips/75f63534.png

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:34 PM

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me, im stealing some mbps

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:34 PM

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i got a 24 port switch because im sensible

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:34 PM

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bought an 8 port 100mbps switch

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:34 PM

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Wow, it's downloading at 1.5MB/s....

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:34 PM

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now you know how i feel

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i download at 1.2

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:34 PM

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📎 IMG_20180622_100135.jpg

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all the wires!!!

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:35 PM

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thats tidy compared to mine

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:35 PM

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https://linusdrop.tips/f78174af.png

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:36 PM

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📎 IMG_20180622_203528.jpg

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all the wires

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:36 PM

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japanese power tools

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:36 PM

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wut

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:37 PM

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the blue charger

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:37 PM

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its the makita drill battery

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u got some good eyes

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:37 PM

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wtf Steam...

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or Spectrum

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:37 PM

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its steam

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:38 PM

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I think its Spectrum

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:38 PM

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im going to laugh if its the pf box that i told you not to use

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:38 PM

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that is hosted on steam servers

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:38 PM

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😄

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:38 PM

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ahahahaha

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do you use pfsense

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?

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:38 PM

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oof https://linusdrop.tips/435265fa.png

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Stupid Spectrum

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:39 PM

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seems normal to me

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 6:39 PM

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lol

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:39 PM

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http://www.speedtest.net/result/7414582045.png

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:39 PM

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you went and put in pf and now your internet is broke

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:39 PM

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why no pfsense @waxen scroll

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:39 PM

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I'm not using pfsense right now

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:40 PM

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because it runs on h/w that cant accelerate things with asics

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:40 PM

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https://linusdrop.tips/e0845d0f.png

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:40 PM

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didnt understand a single word 🙃

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thats lurick's language

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:40 PM

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basically high bandwidth usage makes the cpu 100% because packets are processed there

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:41 PM

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mine has an i5 and 4 gb of ram so i guess its good

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:41 PM

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yeah probably, dunno

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:41 PM

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and i have a 9 /0.5 mbps connection sooo

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what high bandwith

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:41 PM

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Mine has dual X5355s

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and 16GB of ram

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:41 PM

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but dont worry, cant make it work

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:41 PM

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asic is like a secondary CPU whose only purpose is to do packets

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:41 PM

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does it work @rocky badge

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:41 PM

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so its fast as hell

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:42 PM

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thinkies https://linusdrop.tips/a46c878c.png

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:43 PM

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ahh we are back online

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too many mbps for my taste

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:43 PM

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When GPU drivers reset

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:44 PM

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Looking for someone that want to share me its pfsense setup config. Im desperate

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:47 PM

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why

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isnt it easy to set up?

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:47 PM

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Yes

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:47 PM

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for everyone yes

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for me apparently no

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if it works, i get locked out the gui

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:47 PM

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i thought pfsense was basically plug and play

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:47 PM

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Not really XD

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:47 PM

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if i can access, i get the internet icon with the triangle

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i think some dns things are not set up properly

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:48 PM

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you get DHCP?

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:48 PM

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yeah, i get an ip and sometimes i manage to access the gui

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:48 PM

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"sometimes"

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:49 PM

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yeah

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:49 PM

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sounds like an IP conflict or something

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:49 PM

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i put the gateway ip but 1 out of 10 times it works

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most important thing, i dont get internet

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:50 PM

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rule it out by putting your computer directly into the LAN port of the PFsense

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see if the gui works 100%

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:50 PM

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lemme turn it on

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i prob reset pfsense like 20 times

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im pretty sure its a dns problem

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lets see if i can access the web interface

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:52 PM

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@waxen scroll @clear igloo still having issues :/ http://www.speedtest.net/result/7414609779.png

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 6:52 PM

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Did you try crying onto the modem?

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:52 PM

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No

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That will break it

gritty owl Jun 22, 2018, 6:52 PM

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lol, the modem lives off of your tears though

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:52 PM

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And Charter will replace it with router and modem combo

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:53 PM

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wow i actually had to laugh at that

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 6:53 PM

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Which will become a WiFi AP

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:53 PM

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seems like a futurama joke

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:54 PM

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Hey hey @waxen scroll guess what

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192.168.1.120 is unreachable

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that's the gateway ip sooo no web gui

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:55 PM

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thats directly plugged into it huh?

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:55 PM

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Yeah

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Lemme.ping the machine

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Pfsense gave me the ip, the pc sees the 192.168.1.120 ip as a gateway but cant ping it

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Requesti timed out

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:57 PM

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is it possible that .120 isnt the IP and the DHCP is handing out the wrong gateway address?

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does it tell you who the dhcp server is?

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ipconfig /all

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 6:57 PM

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Pf sense say my pc is down

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📎 IMG_20180622_205813.jpg

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No way, there is also the lease time in there

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 6:59 PM

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whats arp -a say?

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also it says your DNS server is 1.1

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that could be a problem too

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:01 PM

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📎 IMG_20180622_210010.jpg

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Ahhh so I was right

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Dns problem

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:01 PM

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well everything adds up, so idk maybe your install is just borked if you cant access the GUI by IP

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:02 PM

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I mean I get confused, as dns ip, should I put the one of the main modem/router or the wan one

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:03 PM

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whatever has the WAN connection

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but if you took the computer and plugged it into PFsense then obviously 1.1 isnt reachable

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the only other thing it can be is subnet mismatch

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but i doubt its that

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the IPs are close enough together

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and you have arp

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:05 PM

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📎 IMG_20180622_210359.jpg

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:05 PM

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so nuke the box and start over maybe

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:05 PM

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Fresh reinstall?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:05 PM

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yes

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:05 PM

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Or throw it out the window

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:06 PM

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window unless you really want to try it

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:06 PM

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Hahahaha

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so, just to clarify: as dns server I have to put the wan ip right? In that case 192.168.1.62

📎 IMG_20180622_210638.jpg

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Wait a minute

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If I unplug the wan cable I can access the gui

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:08 PM

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oh jesus theres your issue

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linux doesnt handle two interfaces in the same subnet well

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:08 PM

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I have 3 in that machine

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One is not set up yet

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:09 PM

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WAN and LAN cant be in the same subnet

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you should make a new subnet for LAN

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:09 PM

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Ffs

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:09 PM

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and if you jacked this into your switch it needs to be on a new VLAN so DHCPs dont conflict

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unless the WAN network is all static IP

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:10 PM

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Pf sense is just plug and play

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Sureee

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:11 PM

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it kind of is, its not built to do the way you want though without more planning

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:11 PM

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So I cant have the same subnet as the one the router has

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MMMmmm

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:12 PM

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you can... on the WAN side only

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:12 PM

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....

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:13 PM

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you're using two routers right? one of them holds your internet, one of them is pfsense

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:13 PM

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Changed subnet, gui goes into "site cant be reached" mode, wan doesnt get an ip after plugging it in

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I changed the lan subnet

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Yeah

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:13 PM

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what did you change it to

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:13 PM

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16

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:13 PM

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that wont work

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xD

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you mean /16 right?

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:14 PM

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But still, wan doesnt get an ip

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Yeah

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Now it got the ip

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:14 PM

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change it to 192.168.2.120/24

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for LAN

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then connect computer to it and see if GUI works

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make sure DHCP gave you the right subnet too

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 7:15 PM

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ewwwwww

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192.168.X.X

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:15 PM

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dunno if you need to change that seperate

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:17 PM

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Put lan on 192.168.1.120/24, the pc gets the 255.255.255.0 gui works with wan unplugged

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:17 PM

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linux acts crazy with two interfaces in the same subnet and you just proved that

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:18 PM

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Funny how pf sense asks If you want to go back to http, and after you said NO the gui is on http still

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And chrome goes NON PROTECTED AREA

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:18 PM

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ive done hacking to make that type of thing work on linux... without the hacks what happens is return traffic always uses one interface even though the interface has a different IP on it

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:19 PM

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What if I put all the 3 interfaces on the same subnet

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Everything goes boom?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:19 PM

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same problem.... return traffic uses a different interface and things dont work

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:20 PM

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Thanks pfsense 😀

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:20 PM

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@clear igloo today you learned

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:20 PM

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OOO

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Network admins dissing

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:21 PM

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you have to go in with iptables mangle and tell it to pay attention to mac addresses and mark them so that traffic is sent back out the correct interface

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its a mess

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:21 PM

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How is it possible that pf sense didn't fix something that important

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:22 PM

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idk, no same subnet on two interfaces is a pretty basic thing

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:22 PM

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Not for me

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:22 PM

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if you try it on a cisco router, the software will tell you no

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:22 PM

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Cisco is smart

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:24 PM

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netadmin, im offended

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im a net engineer

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xD

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:24 PM

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Hahahahahah

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Sorry sir

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 7:25 PM

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death @waxen scroll @clear igloo

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I'm blaming charter now xd

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:25 PM

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Restarting the modem?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:26 PM

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most of what i do for my job IRL is to take project requirements from the business and engineer network designs around those requirements. i dont troubleshoot or monitor anymore for the most part

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:26 PM

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Does it come back normal if you stop charter

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So you tell the enterprise What to install in their network?

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 7:26 PM

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@waxen scroll lol that seems ~~fun~~

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:26 PM

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i do, yes

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:26 PM

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By following their instructions?

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Cool

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Pretty sure lurick does the same

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:27 PM

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i design it, write the configurations, then deploy it

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:27 PM

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Then the slaves go crimp thousands of eth cables?

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Or you also do that part

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:28 PM

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yep. got slaves for cabling and racking, then slaves for monitoring it for problems and correcting them

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:28 PM

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Hahahahah

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 7:28 PM

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Wait no, I blame Windows now @waxen scroll

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http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/4018681053.png

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:29 PM

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if i cause a network outage it will be in the news

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:29 PM

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Cant you be a network engineer and the one that does thecl cabling/racking

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:29 PM

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thats how big the place is i work for

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 7:29 PM

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Wow

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:29 PM

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What dat

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Amazon?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:29 PM

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yes, at smaller business the network engineer does all of it

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:30 PM

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🤔

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:30 PM

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bigger than amazon

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:30 PM

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Netflix xd?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:30 PM

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nah, those companies are all small

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mine has like 300,000 employees

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:30 PM

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Is it about e commerce

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:30 PM

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partly, yes

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not amazon scale though

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:31 PM

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Ebay?

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Nah smaller than amazon

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:31 PM

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that ill let you guess at. im not gonna tell

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😄

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:31 PM

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Ok ok sounds cool

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Am I going in therighht direction

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Ricoh

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:32 PM

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ill let you keep guessing

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lol

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 7:32 PM

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Lol

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:32 PM

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also i have a friend who works at ricoh

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he hates it

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😄

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:32 PM

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So its not ricoh

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My dad works there

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Is it a manufacture thing

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 7:33 PM

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Kill me

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This is slow af http://www.speedtest.net/result/7414698561.png

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:33 PM

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reboot ur internet

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:33 PM

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Is it the biggest node in the world??

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Dunno the name

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 7:34 PM

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I did @waxen scroll

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:34 PM

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Does it get better if you stop the download @rocky badge

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:35 PM

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next step up for me is architect

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thats where you purely make plans, no designs. you tell someone else to design it

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:36 PM

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do you work at the worlds biggest internet node?

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or some sort of node

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:36 PM

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i used to, not anymore

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:36 PM

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owww

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did you took a pic of the server room

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:36 PM

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no, cameras arent allowed

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:36 PM

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😭

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ok so its not even a network node

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🤔

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google?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:37 PM

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those places are boring

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:37 PM

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why

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:37 PM

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cool at first then the wow factor dies pretty fast

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its just a bunch of cages with rows of racks and servers

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:38 PM

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dont say that, you make me regret my decision to become a network admin

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:38 PM

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nothing exciting about that

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:38 PM

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well paradise

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do you work at google then?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:38 PM

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im not saying where i work lol

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:39 PM

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firefox, thats it

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 7:39 PM

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From what I hear, Google is an extremely high pressure environment

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:39 PM

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google is a high SJW environment, so i will never work there

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 7:39 PM

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lol

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:39 PM

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they have slides in the office

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:39 PM

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i found a pic online of one place i worked in

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wow. so excite.

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:40 PM

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empty

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 7:40 PM

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lol

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:40 PM

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its not you just cant see into the cages

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 7:40 PM

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@clear igloo I wanna kill Charter, my modem, and my router XD

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A) Who wouldn't want to kill Charter?

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They're crap 😄

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:41 PM

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at first i would say that seems like the cooling room

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:42 PM

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nope, its a server room

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those black devices on the cages are hand scanners

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:42 PM

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i think i see a piece of server

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no retina ones

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 7:42 PM

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uses laser vision I see the gear

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 7:42 PM

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XD

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:42 PM

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?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:43 PM

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they're not going to have many pics of actual racks online because customers dont like pictures of their shit on the internet

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:43 PM

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@ancient vigil on the left side theres something black

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seems a piece of rack 🤔

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yeah

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so there are servers

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:44 PM

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it is yes

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:44 PM

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those empty cages makes me think about wasted space

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:44 PM

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its where multiple internet providers hook up

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:44 PM

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one seems to have the door open

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so some sort of internet backbone/node

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:44 PM

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so the internet providers exchange traffic between them in that facility

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:45 PM

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does that company hook isp's in italy aswell?

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ready for new babies to slide in

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:46 PM

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probably? if the italy ISPs want a united states presence

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:46 PM

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i dunno. Wind vodafone telecom infostrada tiscali

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do u recognize any of them?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:46 PM

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this stuff is in chicago so theres no undersea fiber right there

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vodaphone

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fone, whatever

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lol

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british telecom is there

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chinatelecom is there

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theres 100s of ISPs really

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:47 PM

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dunno if its like british telecom is like the telecom we have here

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they rent servers there or they use that place as gateway to the backbone

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:48 PM

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russia is in there

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so is ukraine

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this facility also rents space to non-telecoms

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some companies like financials want to be right at the connection points to the exchanges

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1ms is life and death

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:49 PM

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i want 0 ms

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which is imposible but still

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:49 PM

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its possible

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you're thinking in terms of ICMP (ping)

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:50 PM

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cant reach 0 ms even between my pc and the router

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:50 PM

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tcp traffic and udp traffic can do it

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:50 PM

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about having 1 ms of ping between the pc and the router?

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eyyyy someone else that uses 192.168.

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:51 PM

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so ICMP needs to be processed by the routers CPU and thats less important traffic than other types

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so it can be over 1ms

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:51 PM

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about 192.168?

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📎 ping.JPG

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why ppl dont like 192.168 😦

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 7:52 PM

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10.0.0.0/8 tyvm

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:52 PM

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📎 unknown.png

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:52 PM

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lol

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:52 PM

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fight me

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:53 PM

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EYYY

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 7:53 PM

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lol

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:53 PM

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mmm whats that TTL in the ping test

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:53 PM

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come at me

📎 unknown.png

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 7:54 PM

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Unless you have a dumb switch, at which point.....
Broadcast storm!

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 7:55 PM

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lol

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 7:55 PM

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I'll broadcast my storm all over your switch 😛

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:55 PM

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i want a 48 port HUB

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cisco hook me up

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 7:55 PM

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Spanning tree loop, sorry

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:55 PM

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i do heheheh

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48 blasting ports

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switches crash too if you do it

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 7:56 PM

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^

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:56 PM

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an unmanaged switch

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the cisco one once shut off a port cause of that i think

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😭

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or for ppl like me COUGH

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i have a good piece of equipment that i dunno how to use

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sooo, unmanaged switches FTW

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 7:58 PM

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i feel for the providers who get calls from angry gamers who arent their customer about traceroute readings because they mean jack shit

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:59 PM

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@waxen scroll why would an isp hook to ur company to connect to the internet, cant they hook themself up?

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 7:59 PM

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So, you want to hear a funny @waxen scroll

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 7:59 PM

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oh theres linus online

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:00 PM

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Fortnite, owned by Epic Games, is in Cary NC (where I live) and there is ALSO a Fortnite Brewing, in Cary, NC
Guess who gets the angry gamer calls @waxen scroll

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:00 PM

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ROFL no way

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:01 PM

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lol

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:01 PM

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@subtle glen im not sure the question?

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:01 PM

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Every time the servers are down, they get hate filled teenagers flooding their voicemail xD

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:01 PM

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@waxen scroll you said that isp's use you company to connect to the backbone right?

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or something similar

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:01 PM

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no they cant connect themselves

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:01 PM

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It's called an interconnect, they need to connect to each other somewhere

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:01 PM

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they need to rent space and pay for an interconnect

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:02 PM

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BGP, the lifeblood of the internet 😄

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:02 PM

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cant i lay down a cable from my isp to the other?

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:02 PM

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And do that for how many other ISPs?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:02 PM

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its not impossible to lay a cable but its HARD

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:02 PM

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^

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You'

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:03 PM

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no like between isp and isp

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:03 PM

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You'd create a full mesh network, that's expensive and time consuming

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:05 PM

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one company i worked for deprioritized ICMP so it would add like 20ms

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gamers hated it

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:06 PM

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so from somethinglike this

📎 isp.png

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to this?

📎 node.png

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:07 PM

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1 and 2 are both right.

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equinix has a product that does #1

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err

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#2

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lol

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:08 PM

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definition of the year would say

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:08 PM

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equinix does a thing where ISPs can buy one fiber and use vlans on that fiber to connect up to many ISPs

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instead of running tons of fiber

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no, i think separate fibers is still popular

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if that one fiber dies think of all the loss

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:09 PM

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ill take my inflatable toy boat and ill lay my cable

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:10 PM

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the popular thing for non-ISPs to do now is to purchase space on dark fiber, terminate the other side into a carrier hotel, then do their business that way

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better access to azure/aws

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whatever

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:11 PM

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@ancient vigil

📎 there.JPG

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here i dont even have 100 mbps fiber....

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u get low latency there

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:12 PM

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fuck all this talk gave me a headache

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😄

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:12 PM

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i think this one gives you more space about what you want

📎 unknown.png

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danger i did guess the company right? 😃

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:13 PM

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no

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:13 PM

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not even the one i sent in private?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:13 PM

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no

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:13 PM

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oh come on

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you said that pic was the workplace

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:13 PM

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no, i said i used to work in there

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:13 PM

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MMMM

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i have to guess...

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:14 PM

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network engineer for a fortune 100

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😄

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:14 PM

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the thing he said is that if they shut down stuff they will be on newspaper

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what could it be

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:15 PM

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i do design and implementation. troubleshooting is maybe 5% of my job

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:16 PM

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did i guess now?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:16 PM

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has to break so bad that it gets my attention

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no

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:16 PM

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aaAAA

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am i close

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:16 PM

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no

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:16 PM

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bruf

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i have a list of exchange points here

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:17 PM

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@ancient vigil india mostly does the troubleshooting and monitoring

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no more level 1/2 american noc jobs

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keep disappearing

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yes

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:18 PM

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LOL

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:18 PM

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yep

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they call me when they want it solved in 5min

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lol

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:19 PM

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the company is in america right?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:20 PM

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or weeks if i have to get down to the packet level

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reading wiresharks and whatnot

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:21 PM

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uuu italy has exchange points

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didnt know that

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:22 PM

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why arent you working for one then?

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:22 PM

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cause im 16

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:22 PM

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no

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:22 PM

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and i cant configure a switch

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:24 PM

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well its time to do the CCNA then

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:24 PM

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oh god

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:24 PM

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ive only ever been a CCNA and look where i am

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:24 PM

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aint ready

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:25 PM

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you dont get hired for having a CCNA anymore

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:25 PM

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just imagine working at those exchange points: running in the servers hallway surrounded by cables maybe with Happy together -the turtles

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:26 PM

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the truth is, a CCNA doesnt prepare you for working on networks, even small ones. its close for small ones

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CCNP is what you need because BGP and advanced OSPF

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:26 PM

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so uhhhh, where do you start xD?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:27 PM

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you start with CCNA, then lots of trial and error, read CCNP but maybe not try to get it, get work experience, then take CCNP

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CCNP is hard for even myself to pass

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you have to think like cisco

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:28 PM

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like lurick

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one of the questions you can find in those tests?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:29 PM

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ive done cisco and extreme

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some juniper but not enough to really mention it

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@subtle glen A GRE tunnel connecting two remote locations over the Internet supports encapsulation of dynamic routing protocols. TRUE or FALSE?

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:31 PM

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oh crap

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^

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trulse

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:32 PM

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@subtle glen i dont believe for a second you know this

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lol

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:32 PM

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what if im the CEO of cisco

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:32 PM

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CEOs are non-technical

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:32 PM

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ct what?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:33 PM

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@subtle glen On what does BGP base the selection of the best path? [speed] -or- [AS routing policy] -or- [number of routers to reach a destination network] -or- [bandwidth and delay] ?

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:33 PM

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true

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bandwith delay

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this one seem kinda easy

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cant answer it but still

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:34 PM

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they're easy for people with job experience

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:34 PM

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speed

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dont know what as routing is so ill reject that

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:35 PM

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AS Routing Policy

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:35 PM

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fuck

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:35 PM

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honestly the test is 10x harder than this

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:35 PM

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ok ok another question

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:35 PM

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im just getting bad sample questions from cisco online

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:35 PM

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📎 IMG_20180622_223321.jpg

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i have cisco stuff laying around

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look what i found

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:36 PM

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What wireless standard do autonomous vehicles use to communicate?

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:36 PM

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i already started

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the same as devices?

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802.11 ac?

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or something similar?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:36 PM

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@subtle glen that looks like a nice bridge

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:36 PM

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sure

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no latency wit htose

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those

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yeah, hook up vehicles with those

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📎 IMG_20180622_223738.jpg

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remember kids: DHCP is everywhere

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:38 PM

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no its not

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DHCP doesnt exist by default in the real world

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:38 PM

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you are discussing about Networking FUndamentals??

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Official Academic COurse???

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you could also go static 😃

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nah

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all manual

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we arent lazy

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:39 PM

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@subtle glen you ever use a /31 before?

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try it. its amazing

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:39 PM

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a what

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:39 PM

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xD

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:39 PM

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i dont speak lurick's language

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:40 PM

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That's the point

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:40 PM

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speaking lurick's language?

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:40 PM

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I made a bad pun 😛

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:41 PM

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about networking?

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:41 PM

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I'll take a /20

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:41 PM

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/24

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:41 PM

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oh heres a good question

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:41 PM

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go for it

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:41 PM

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@subtle glen why would i manage a router using a /32 on a loopback interface instead of anything else

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:41 PM

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shit

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ok ok wait

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we are talking about subnets

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:42 PM

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sure

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:42 PM

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why a 32 uh?

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cause uhhh

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it has something special to avoid loopback?

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no no wait

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 8:43 PM

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😄

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:43 PM

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tf is a loopback interface

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 8:43 PM

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blobfacepalm

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:43 PM

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i got this

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:43 PM

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is loopback even in CCNA? i dont remember

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:44 PM

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Inband management of the router

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Conservation of IP addresses in a spine-leaf topology by using loopback 0 and ip unnumbered interfaces

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Single peer point for BGP

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:46 PM

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if interface g0/0/0 with IP 192.168.1.1 is being used for management and g0/0/0 loses link, i cant talk to my device on that IP anymore... big problem if you have logging and other items on that IP

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:46 PM

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^

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:46 PM

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you use redundancy

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:47 PM

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a /32 on a loopback interface can be accessed using any interface on the router

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:47 PM

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If you remember to redistribute it to your routing protocol

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:47 PM

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@rocky badge set one up on your home lab, pls

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use 1.1.1.1/32

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 8:48 PM

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XD

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:48 PM

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😛

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:48 PM

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192.168

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:49 PM

#

In a spine-leaf topology you lose and then restore a border gateway leaf. You're running the network at 85% of max route scale and you have default timers implemented for the BGW election timers. What happens when the election timer pops?

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:49 PM

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do i have to answer

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 8:49 PM

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yes

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:49 PM

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A. The network explodes
B. You pull your hair out and scream for 5 minutes
C. Convergence events upwards of 10 minutes occur in the network
D. You're fired because you let the leaf go down in the first place

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:50 PM

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D

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:50 PM

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i think the tl;dr from today is that networking is hard and it isnt smart for medium business and higher to let non-networkers touch it

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:50 PM

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I concur, networking is hard but it's fun and rewarding too if you have the passion for it

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:51 PM

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A sounds tempting too

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 8:51 PM

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@subtle glen its going to take years

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buckle up

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 8:51 PM

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XD

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:52 PM

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🙄

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 8:53 PM

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Windows is being dumb again

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Keyword: again

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:53 PM

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The answer is C. After the election timer expires the election process takes place and the leaf is brought back into the role of a border gateway. Because you were using default timers you experience a long convergence event due to the fact that the router now has to dump and reprogram the BGP RIB after assuming the new role and rid itself of the reflected routes. To avoid this in the future if route scale higher than ~60% is expected then timers should be adjusted to roughly 300 seconds to ensure minimal to zero convergence on restore

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That has been Networking 303, tune in next week as we explore the wonderous world of MPLS!

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:55 PM

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how do you stay updated when new things come out

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:55 PM

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You search for them and you hope you have the time to learn it

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:55 PM

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how do you know theres something new in the first place

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:57 PM

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Blog posts, newsletters, research, etc.

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If something in your area of study is new, you'll hear about it somehow

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Because you're always looking

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 8:58 PM

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alright

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like when you go to the water dispenser and you hear co workers talking

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 8:59 PM

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That's another way

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 9:04 PM

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heh

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the real way is that you invite sales people to your office

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they tell you whats new

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then you buy it and use professional services to get it going

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 9:04 PM

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or

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you run the company off unmanaged switches

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 9:06 PM

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let me know how it goes

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 9:07 PM

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give me an office and some switches

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 9:07 PM

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nope.

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 9:07 PM

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you wont have different segments of network but it would work

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think so

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 9:08 PM

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you can have different segments of network

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the broadcast is going to be a problem

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 9:08 PM

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you change pools on the router ports and change subnets

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thanks lurick, now i know the pool thing

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 9:17 PM

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@rocky badge show us a visio of your network

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 9:18 PM

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I don't have MS visio ;-;

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 9:18 PM

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wow. scrub.

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😄

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 9:18 PM

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XD

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 9:18 PM

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use paint

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works great 👌🏻

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 9:19 PM

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i'd die if work didnt buy me visio

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 9:20 PM

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My school doesn't buy us visio because we don't need it lol

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 9:20 PM

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did you draw your network diagram?

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 9:20 PM

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microsoft products for schools are free or heavily discounted, so i dont know why they dont have visio

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 9:20 PM

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Visio isn't part of the Office 365

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It's a separate subscription

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reeeeee https://linusdrop.tips/bb39727e.png

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 9:22 PM

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ouch

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 9:22 PM

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Luckily I have my own Azure AD 😄

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https://linusdrop.tips/8e736a1b.png

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It thinks its a "work" account

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@waxen scroll ok, downloading visio

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 9:26 PM

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how

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 9:26 PM

#

https://linusdrop.tips/154e82e6.png

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Free trial XD

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 9:28 PM

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a 52 port switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008R711L0/ref=twister_B074CLW4HK?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 9:29 PM

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no pls

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 9:29 PM

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dlink

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 9:35 PM

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@waxen scroll still installing ._.

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 9:35 PM

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dafuq

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 9:36 PM

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its almost time to go drinking

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 9:36 PM

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XD

#

https://linusdrop.tips/9f9e4202.png

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 9:37 PM

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please stay

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 9:38 PM

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@clear igloo jack and cokes + shots of patron alllll night

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 9:38 PM

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Nice

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 9:38 PM

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https://linusdrop.tips/b6fdc33e.png

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Finally XD

clear igloo Jun 22, 2018, 9:38 PM

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Not a fan of coke but the patron I'll do

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 9:39 PM

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https://linusdrop.tips/68aa1bbb.png

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LUL

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 9:40 PM

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there are a lot of heatsinks in here

📎 IMG_20180615_185036.jpg

rocky badge Jun 22, 2018, 9:40 PM

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@waxen scroll https://linusdrop.tips/20e18135.png

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why is this an option XD

subtle glen Jun 22, 2018, 9:40 PM

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you know

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you could be google

waxen scroll Jun 22, 2018, 9:40 PM

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opening the product voids the warranty!