We have 220v on the more heavy duty stuff
#networking
clear igloo
subtle glen
but not in houses
clear igloo
Yah
clear igloo
the ovens need 220v
clear igloo
Yah, and I believe dryers do too but that's about the only place you'll find them
everything else is definitely 110
clear igloo
It shouldn't be
subtle glen
isnt the white wire the phase?
do those breakers you have only cut the power to the neutral?
subtle glen
wheres the server room one 👀
clear igloo
Well I don't have an actual picture of mine on me 😛
clear igloo
They shouldn't, a true break is supposed to stop the current completely
subtle glen
ikr
clear igloo
All the places I've dealt with and been in have proper breakers
subtle glen
those switches cut the power for overloading/short circuit or both?
clear igloo
Both
subtle glen
mmhmh
ignore the fact that my breaker is completely wrong, still prefer those one instead of the one you have
waxen scroll
time for me to watch the WAN show
subtle glen
not all the appliances goes to the breaker
the main wires from the breaker goes to a box
or more, it depends
clear igloo
I'll have to look up some of that stuff later, seems interesting
See why it's different and whatnot, aside the voltages ofc
subtle glen
i know tons of stuff about it
since when i was a kid i used to make breakers and stuff
clear igloo
That's pretty cool
subtle glen
mostly ending up in a short circuit that trips the breaker
subtle glen
after a bit i got scared and i didnt want to try to power up the stuff i made
cause i got scared when i heard the STUN sound the breaker makes
rocky badge
@waxen scroll why
waxen scroll
@subtle glen you and @rocky badge should make a tunnel between your homes and do BGP
rocky badge
No
subtle glen
HELL YE
clear igloo
Haha, yah!
rocky badge
Lol
clear igloo
Over MPLS
subtle glen
yeah lets make our private network
we could vpn or
run cables
i choose the second one
do american houses have the "emergency rope" in the shower?
rocky badge
Yeah
subtle glen
LOL
subtle glen
hack the subway ticket
unreal wedge
@rocky badge so you discovered that, too.
Lol.
I have that app + an old RFID hotel card to allow guest on my guest wifi.
No NFC = No wifi for you.
rocky badge
I wonder if my phone is locked to Verizon
glad pebble
nah. verizon doesnt lock their phones anymore. they just add a "you're not connected to a verizon network anymore" alert you cant get rid of
at least that was my experience
unreal wedge
There's a hidden system app to kill off those notifications.
glad pebble
figures. i didnt really get into the fancy stuff in mobile untill recently
rocky badge
@glad pebble oof
glad pebble
I've got a OnePlus now, not a kinda crap lg g3
rocky badge
Lol
lean pollen
Europe have 400v for heavy duty stuff if people want
lean pollen
@subtle glen Thats ugly btw
subtle glen
what
lean pollen
Those pictures
subtle glen
ikr
lean pollen
nest of wires
subtle glen
the junction box is too small, the socket breaker is all wrong
lean pollen
Voltage change somewhat from European country to another yes
subtle glen
and theres no space
btw after i finished the work i had to do i tried to cable manage that junction box
lean pollen
I have never seen a junction box with that many wires....
lean pollen
Btw this is the fuse box where I live with my family
Sorry bad picture, it was as badly lit
hallow nimbus
Then make it Lit Af
lean pollen
Norway
subtle glen
nice setup
lean pollen
Btw
This is climate control in a big building
Not yet 100% done
Isn't actually connected to the building yet
In those pictures
As you probably can see
lean pollen
Those in the second pictures is motor fuses
(spesifically made for motors)
Or, here some of them are fans
lean pollen
For some reason US have fuse boxes on the outside of the building instead of inside
wispy plover
..where do we have fuse boxes outside instead of inside?
We have disconnects for outside equipment, but I've never seen a main or sub panel outside, except for on some apartment buildings.
waxen scroll
same. never seen it
only time you get a breaker on the outside is if theres heavy outdoor equipment
HVAC, etc
unreal wedge
Looks like that's only a splice to me.
subtle glen
i didnt even know us had junction boxes....
thought the cables would go directly into the breaker panel
waxen scroll
thats just the utility shut off *shrug
lean pollen
@wispy plover not everywhire but quite a bit of places
Its multiple fuses there
like 6 at least
or something weird at least
subtle glen
but still, here the power meter and the first breaker that comes after that is always under locked room or a gate or something
subtle glen
seems to be only switches
wispy plover
Stucco...so you're in the southwest?
clear igloo
Those pics are from Paul's Hardware vid iirc
lean pollen
Yes
subtle glen
lol
clear igloo
So yah, cali
rocky badge
Lol
lean pollen
fastest place to find it where it lurick
wispy plover
It's more common in your area.
I'm in the northern midwest (great lakes region if you believe in that being a thing) and that doesn't really happen here. Probably due to the snow lol
lean pollen
Its probably different from area to area yes
wispy plover
No one wants to shovel a path or posthole their way to get to it if it trips.
subtle glen
heh, i would have to break brick walls and the floor to run conduits
concrete houses...
clear igloo
do it!
subtle glen
yeah!!
waxen scroll
its all quite easy with the proper tools
subtle glen
today i asked my mom if she wanted to renovate the house just so that i can run more and bigger conduits
clear igloo
wispy plover
Conduit is nice for pulling wire, but I hate installing it so much. Maybe if I did it more often, but I so rarely do it.
subtle glen
breaking the wall is a thing, breaking the floor is another
if you break a piece, you need to re-make it all
wispy plover
Just put a piece of 3/4 plywood over it.
clear igloo
Kool-Aid man will bust that up no problem, lol
wispy plover
Good as new.
subtle glen
i was thinking of breaking the roof and run the conduits there
that sounds good james
waxen scroll
i live up north where basements are a thing... so its easy to run wiring
subtle glen
you have cardboard walls....
waxen scroll
@rocky badge foo
rocky badge
Wrong mention 
clear igloo
lol
rocky badge
waxen scroll
looks right to me
rocky badge
editied
subtle glen
@wispy plover you tell my mum why theres a canal in the floor with plywood on top, ok?
wispy plover
I'll be sure to muster up the best mix of yooper/canadian and southern redneck for an accent when I tell her.
subtle glen
aight
subtle glen
lemme grab the hammer and the chisel
wispy plover
That way you can just sweep things away. It's like a central vacuum, only it's a trough instead.
clear igloo
Should wait till morning
subtle glen
nah
clear igloo
So 1:30am is perfect
wispy plover
It's best to try and break up concrete at night, when it's asleep and it won't put up a fight.
clear igloo
lol
subtle glen
yeah also cause concrete is more relaxed cause less people are walking in the building and there is less stress on it
so seems good to me
and so more soft
clear igloo
Concrete operates a 1.21KHz so anything higher should cut through it like butter
wispy plover
Just so happens to be the same frequency as an beard trimmer. Good luck.
subtle glen
ah, so the powerline i got in the wall is cutting it
thick minnow
wrong channel
wispy plover
When I need a coaster or a door wedge, yes.
subtle glen
OOO
wispy plover
No, but in seriousness, I just steal it from my fiance to annoy and be a pest to her.
But iPhone talk is fun!
clear igloo
lol
rocky badge
@thick minnow oof
thick minnow
What do you think of this reachability UI I found on /r/jailbreak?
subtle glen
can i use it as a chisel to break concrete
wispy plover
Of course you can. May not get far, but you can.
subtle glen
ah, so i could
wispy plover
....it's different than what it currently has? @thick minnow
clear igloo
Just pour some red bull on it and wait a week 😄
subtle glen
thanks for the tip sir
thick minnow
subtle glen
i was also thinking about making a hole that has the same dimension as my switch to put it inside and pour concrete on it so that i have my switch wall mounted
something similar
wispy plover
...well that's a thing.
At least if it catches fire for a short or something the concrete should contain it well lol
subtle glen
What if it is drywall
waxen scroll
@clear igloo muh lag boltz
clear igloo
wat?
wispy plover
Not enough.
wispy plover
I mean, something from Ruckus, but who knows what.
rocky badge
Yeah
waxen scroll
anyone doing any networking today?
clear igloo
Tomorrow I will 😄
rocky badge
Lol
subtle glen
well i changed a switch recently, does that count
clear igloo
A spine leaf topology has a fabric border router failure between the spine and super spine. How long is convergence on the restore with 75% system scale?
clear igloo
No ACI, just standalone spine-leaf
All nexus 9K's 😃
The answer is, depends on the holddown timer for the border gateway election :P
If it's default then ~5 to 10 minutes, if it's at least 240+ then sub-second for most traffic
ACI is spooky though, it's like that child you know is probably going to burn the world down but you hope is just a good kid inside
waxen scroll
i dont like anything from cisco thats supposed to automate things
it ends in disaster
ACI is not my team, so i dont know how well its doing
clear igloo
Yah, from talking with the people who do focus on ACI testing it's gotten a ton better in the past couple years
waxen scroll
our company is so big that our network team takes a whole floor
clear igloo
Lotta people to maintain the network 😄
waxen scroll
Separate teams include: Datacenter, infosec, Wireless, physical circuits, WAN/LAN(campus, datacenter, distribution, etc), IP telephony, network analysis
oh and network tools
clear igloo
Sounds about right, can't forget the tools team 😛
waxen scroll
there might be a load balancer team but im not 100% sure
so i do the LAN/WAN but my hands are slightly in the datacenter space, which is why i may or may not interact with ACI as time goes on
clear igloo
I mainly focus on data center stuff, mainly the N9K in standalone and VxLAN deployments (non-ACI) and DCNM but I've messed around with campus, 4G, security, and a tiny bit of wireless
Working on migration testing for my customer now as they move from legacy stuff to the N9K and then into a VxLAN topology
If you don't mind my asking though, have you looked at our messed with any SDA stuff like DNA Center?
or anything similar from other companies?
waxen scroll
i personally havent. i cant speak for the company. im only like 6-7 months into this job
clear igloo
Ah, wasn't sure since that's mainly focused on the LAN/WAN side around campus and branch stuff
waxen scroll
the infra is that space is aging and they dont like spending money on it. its most likely going to get swapped slowly and do the same config its always done
clear igloo
Ah, that makes sense
I've still got my reservations about it, seems to have some growing pains to go through still but when it works right it can be amazing from what I've seen
waxen scroll
we have the highest discount you can get as a non-EDU supposedly as well
clear igloo
They did an internal demo and tied the DNA Center controller into Alexa and showed an engineer saying "Alexa, block all Window's machines and redirect to the patch server" and boom, the windows VMs were stopped from accessing the internet and could only touch the patch server
waxen scroll
yet they wont spend
clear igloo
Gotta keep the budget light for those exec bonuses >.<*
waxen scroll
idk TBH... its retail mentality i hear most retailers work this way
this is my first retail job
clear igloo
Yah, it was partly a joke but retail is all about margins, the higher the margin the better so if you can cut back on something, you do it
I did retail for 8 years, not as a network engineer, so I saw the mentality and can only imagine it goes all the way up
waxen scroll
im prob gonna go back to working pharmaceuticals if i can find a good deal
clear igloo
Pharma is huge, definitely have more flex I'm sure
waxen scroll
those companies are usually strict about lifecycle management
clear igloo
Very, yah, got all the regulations to keep up with
Banks are the same way
Always PSIRTS to worry about too
waxen scroll
my pharma job was templated too... we made 5 templates that a remote site should be and we were not allowed to deviate
same gear models, licenses, wiring, configs
clear igloo
Yup, the customer I've got now is the same way. Different models depending on the size of the site and a pre-defined template. The only changes are depending on the region (East, West, etc.)
waxen scroll
the templates were mostly for "how redundant does the site need to be and what bandwidth"
clear igloo
Yah, that sounds about right. Bigger sites have more bandwidth but similar configs
waxen scroll
one site type might want redundant WAN but not layer 3 LAN, so it would use GLBP... versus a L3 LAN where its OSPF
clear igloo
It does make testing somewhat easier, you know the features they use and how they use it. Not a bunch of mismashed stuff all over the place that you can't predict easily
waxen scroll
once i quit that job and went to the next, it was out of control... i hated it
i started forcing them to normalize configs and other items
clear igloo
Yah, that's good
waxen scroll
but they wanted to pick at quotes for projects, every project is different
"we dont have money for a standard config"
ffs
waxen scroll
i decided to quit when my bosses boss was telling me how a site is going to get designed
😄
rocky badge
what are you guys talking about
clear igloo
The evil of the corporate world
rocky badge
Lol
waxen scroll
cisco is no better... its a "dream" and when you get hired there you wake up
clear igloo
Yup 😛
rocky badge
Lol
waxen scroll
and the companies where you can work on experimental networking are usually rotten inside
see: Facebook, google, etc
rocky badge
Steal-yo-data-book
waxen scroll
and google with racism/sexism/etc from both their liberal SJWs and conservative sides
lol
@subtle glen no, and i dont think about it. good way to get fired
clear igloo
lol, all my stuff is known by my boss and peers
I do a lot of testing at home on the gear so they are fine with it 😃
waxen scroll
if i do take gear to configure when i work from home, i make damn sure my boss knows
subtle glen
hehehehe
rocky badge
Lol
clear igloo
Broke the WLC last month, filed like 4 bugs on it, lol
waxen scroll
i use simulators now and dont have any gear at home anymore
if you run into a limit on the sim, usually its a $20,000 feature that you cant lab IRL anyway
subtle glen
just found a bug on gmail on chrome beta
rocky badge
Ewwww this place has MikroTik
subtle glen
i mean, if you are throwing away servers and stuff, ILL TAKE IT
rocky badge
Lol
subtle glen
nouuu
also what do you do if like a server mb dies? you search for a replacement or you throw everything?
waxen scroll
throw depending on age
subtle glen
the replacement usually isnt worth it?
waxen scroll
well you tell me, if you have a 5 year old or more system that has old tech and is missing a bunch of new stuff, why not upgrade
why prop it up
subtle glen
i just feel bad about throwing it away
waxen scroll
the mindset changes based on your income level
like all things
buying current gen things is not cheap
my R710 has 300GB ram
a DDR4 replacement for that would be nuts
subtle glen
dafuq
waxen scroll
rocky badge
Oh nice
waxen scroll
its meant for testing things, i dont use it as a server anymore
putting a network sim on there and running tools like cisco prime and APIC-EM really shits on the resources
clear igloo
^
rocky badge
Lol
subtle glen
well, to use 300 gb of ram you need a lot of programms
waxen scroll
the server is so old though that the next version of ESXi wont have the drivers to support it anymore
you can burn 300gb easy
😄
each network device is a VM and any software i put on are VMs too
so you got multiple instances of linux going and sometimes windows to support one lab
clear igloo
No VM needs more than 640kb of RAM
waxen scroll
tell that to an IOS XR VM
waxen scroll
im excited for the new CPUs coming out but i dread the thought of purchasing the RAM again
clear igloo
Yah, RAM prices need to drop by a ton
waxen scroll
i might have to compromise and do only 100GB or so
i'd like to actually replace my gaming machine with one that supports 100+ and just not have a separate testing box
but i pretty much need to move to a server mobo
most mobos are 64gb max
rocky badge
Lol
brittle mural
ew
waxen scroll
i would probably do a single i9 or something, i dont think i NEED xeon
would have to research that
waxen scroll
i'd rather not use ECC though
waxen scroll
i would need to see what VMware workstation says and some of the VMs as well.... i think there might be a VM or two that requires xeon tech
can i put RGB on a supermicro motherboard?
muh asus aura tho
clear igloo
You can put RGB on anything
waxen scroll
yeah but is it right?
clear igloo
Yes, you need RGB for more GHz on the CPU
rocky badge
Lol
lean pollen
Threadripper can do more memory than i9s I think?
waxen scroll
mmm mmmm
i'd put her in my chassis if you know what i mean
threadripper scares me
i think i may run into VMs that say NOPE on that one
lean pollen
Why
clear igloo
Just virtualize the hardware to appear as an Intel CPU?
waxen scroll
this is a bad example but you cant fake VT-d VT-x
clear igloo
True, I haven't messed with ESXi in depth too much, maybe it's just the generation of CPU you can fake
waxen scroll
i think ESXi actually passes the actual chip you have to the VMs
the core count is just modded
clear igloo
Hmmm, I was pretty sure there is an option somewhere that allows you to make all VMs think you've got a specific generation of CPU running
waxen scroll
i'd start it up and tell you but im lazy
clear igloo
Yah, my vCenter is down right now
waxen scroll
i keep the server off when im not using it lol
no point in paying power bills for idle time
same with all my devices, really
rocky badge
Lol
clear igloo
If it works, it works 😃
clear igloo
Yah, hopefully some stuff can be salvaged once it does go
clear igloo
lol
waxen scroll
it has a raid card and 2nd gen intel SSDs
im so done with all that
just want an NVMe
i didnt wanna piece it together i wanna get all new, all at once
so i didnt get NVMe yet
clear igloo
Makes sense
waxen scroll
tl;dr raid cards and SLI supported mobos = dont
i got lucky and got it stable but its not a great idea
😄
clear igloo
😛
waxen scroll
LSI themselves told me the clock on the mobo and the clock on the card dont sync too well and i should be using non-SLI mobo with a PCIe port that matches the card physically
ive seen the same issue on PCIe SSDs as well
like the OCZ one back in the day
where the card has an onboard BIOS
its nice that you can use the NVMe stuff and not have issues
i dont think those have BIOS on them
clear igloo
Yah, not that I know of
waxen scroll
a lot of what happens is that if you need to interact with the card BIOS you get all types of crap happening..... BIOS GUI half loading... mouse and keyboard input not working in BIOS, etc... but if you can get it configured a lot of the time it'll keep working as a storage device
but upgrading the BIOS and things like that may cause BSOD or other undesired results
lucky me, i found one BIOS from LSI that makes it work... any older and any newer it all falls apart 😄
clear igloo
That's always fun, getting the one bit of code that works and everything else breaks it 😄
"It works, nobody breath!"
waxen scroll
some companies take that approach to networking
one company refused to upgrade code on their datacenter equipment
and you know what that can do
clear igloo
Yup, I know there are some ISPs still running CatOS on their original Cat6K boxes
stone mica
looking for help with flashing firmware on a ea6500 v2 to advance tomato there is a lot of mixed info and I dont know a lot about flashing routers
dry silo
hey guys I'm lookin at getting new internet so if any aussies wanna give me their recommendations, id appreciate that
im also busy so if ya gotta reply for me it would help if you @mention me or pm me
elfin socket
Anyone here familar with setting up APs?
I'm trying to configure a spare Netgear R7900 router into an AP and the official documentation has this warning
Use this setting if you want to manually assign a specific IP address to this router while it is in AP mode.
Using this option effectively requires advanced network experience.```Why would that be a problem, to assign an IP?
If I assigned an IP address to the AP, outside of the dHCP pool, it shouldnt be a problem, right?
unreal wedge
As long as it's in the subnet you'll be fine.
That said, the AP's IP should be set at the DHCP server.
So it kind of has to be in the DHCP pool to work in some cases
elfin socket
In general, you'd want to set IPs at the DDHCP server anyway, right?
Still, why would manually setting the IP to the switch be a problem here? On the offchance that the person sets an invalid address or an overlapping one?
unreal wedge
DHCP server as the master and all other devices as slaves leaves very little room for conflict or error, especially if a malicious device is requesting the IP of a network device in charge of important tasks. Saw that with a datacenter once. Pretty nasty.
Unwanted MitM attack, lol.
elfin socket
Like if you only allow 192.168.1.100 to talk to a NAS, and its spoofed?
stone mica
So here is my understanding:
if your running that router as just an AP and you make the router have a static ip address that every wireless device you have keep track of the ip address scheme and give every device you hook up to it own unique address . i
Now if you set it up with a dhcp pool like:
192.168.10.32/27
255.255.255.224
You would have 32 total hosts and 30 usable hosts because you loss the 1st and last address in the scheme.
You would be able to make the Pool 192.168.10.33 - 192.168.10.62 which would be the 30 total host address's you could have on that subnet mask, and you could than take that range of address's, and make the pool start at 192.168.10.33 and go to 192.168.10.43 and then make the AP be @ 192.168.10.62 The AP would be static and out site the pool.
Hope this helps @elfin socket
Looking for help with flashing firmware on a ea6500 v2 to advance tomato there is a lot of mixed info and I don't know a lot about flashing routers. The file size limit for bricking routers is my concern.
unreal wedge
I'm waiting for my debricking serial connector to show up
waxen scroll
@clear igloo one of two remote sites fixed.... layer 1 issue that wasnt my fault so far
clear igloo
Layer 0 and 1 issues are no fun 😛
waxen scroll
sounded like SOMEONE didnt punch down right
clear igloo
lol, nice
waxen scroll
*cough ATT
clear igloo
XD
clear igloo
Sounds about right
They told us our 4G circuit was provisioned for QoS and when we tested it, it failed. A week later they come back "oh, looks like it wasn't done right"
waxen scroll
ah 4g... i just got done putting in 4g MPLS which will be used by 8000 devices or so
clear igloo
4G backup or MPLS over 4G?
waxen scroll
MPLS over
clear igloo
wow, didn't know that was possible xD
waxen scroll
me either.
i guess when your device talks to the provider they have a way to assign it to a VRF that isnt public 4G internet
did this with verizon
waxen scroll
verizon wireless hands off to verizon business and then its put into an ethernet MPLS network that my router can talk to
clear igloo
Yah, just figured overhead would kill a 4G connection with MPLS
AH! I know what you're referring to now, yes
waxen scroll
i cant say what its for, but the nodes on the 4G modems use very little traffic
clear igloo
Not MPLS over the 4G connection itself between branch and campus but MPLS underlay
I assume is what you're talking about?
waxen scroll
its a high availability thingy
clear igloo
Yah, 4G is fun 😃
waxen scroll
well its known as MPLS over 4G but no, its not a 4G device speaking MPLS
clear igloo
Yah, the 4G signal goes to the tower which backhauls it over the network to a headend (I forget the name) in their network to be decapped and then put on MPLS to end up at the campus/headend/etc
They've got OTA-QOS out now which is wicked
well not really over the air directly but basically you get dedicated bearer channels that have a set bandwidth and then bulk channel which fluxes depending on the conditions
waxen scroll
@rocky badge you should try it
rocky badge
What does that mean XD
subtle glen
ahhh, feel so good to update your router firmware
you have that "im more safe now" feeling xD
subtle glen
i also dont know how much the router company cares about getting their security better
also, how secure is pfsense?
i never use it so idk
waxen scroll
anythings secure when you shut SSH/telnet/HTTP off
subtle glen
lol
rocky badge
Hotel WiFi http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/3990419671.png @waxen scroll @clear igloo
rocky badge
Oof
rocky badge
@clear igloo @waxen scroll wake up nerds 😄
clear igloo
I've been up for ~3 hours
rocky badge
I just got up
waxen scroll
ive been up 30min
rocky badge
Lol
waxen scroll
weirdo
rocky badge
younger me
clear igloo
Younger you would be like 0, lol
rocky badge
Lol
clear igloo
haha
rocky badge
What's dat?
waxen scroll
so in some companies, usually medium business and higher, you have to fill out a bunch of forms and submit them for approval before you make a change on any equipment. on these forms you have to attach a detailed change script with all the config you intend to push, how you intend to test it, and how you intend to back out if it blows up
waxen scroll
some places make it more difficult than others
to get the approvals you usually join one or more conference calls and explain what you're doing
clear igloo
Never done ITIL before but I've heard about the pain it causes 😃
The wonders of working on a customer lab instead of production 😛
Lab needs an upgrade, I tell others I work with I'm gonna screw stuff up at night and just do it XD
clear igloo
Mine is Korvo from Dishonored
clear igloo
You've never played Dishonored?
rocky badge
nope
clear igloo
Do you like stealth games?
clear igloo
Hide, kill enemies, and hide again. Or just run through and boom boom stab them and don't hide
rocky badge
Lol
waxen scroll
@clear igloo my second spray and pray site is still down
clear igloo
Did you spray enough traffic at it?
waxen scroll
and it happens to be in the same state as @rocky badge is in right now
i need a line tech
clear igloo
lol, he'll do it for about tree fiddy
waxen scroll
show up at zayo and claim you're ATT
clear igloo
Why would he want to degrade himself like that?
At least say you're with verizon
or Sprint
waxen scroll
NO
clear igloo
T-Mobile even XD
clear igloo
I know they do
clear igloo
T-Mobile doesn't even have business offerings as far as I know
waxen scroll
with sprint if you dont tag for QoS, your traffic is screwed
enjoy the packet loss
their network seems to be terribly congested
clear igloo
Well I mean they have like 5 customers
So when someone watches a video they'll slow down I'm sure 😛
@rocky badge you never answered the question so I assume you lost signal again 😛
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No
I had to go down to the lobby
Which includes walking down 3 full hallways
And riding 2 elevators
From 9 to 3
clear igloo
@waxen scroll Yah, they take a long time with support too
clear igloo
COOKIES!!
waxen scroll
you need to calm down
clear igloo
You need at least 10 cookies
waxen scroll
whats @rocky badge like on mountain dew?
clear igloo
All hopped up on sundrop
waxen scroll
hyper AF
clear igloo
Replace the water in the coffee maker with red bull and watch him explode
waxen scroll
man i wish i could get hyper off a mountain dew
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Lol
Ballet parking is nice
Especially when they carry your luggage
So you can be lazy
I like being lazy
@waxen scroll I can't get hyper off of anything
clear igloo
Vallet
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Valet parking
clear igloo
Yah
clear igloo
lol, you going through colorado?
clear igloo
So you'll see lots of.......ummm...... nothing?
clear igloo
lol
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Driving from TN to NC is okish
lean pollen
Random thing I came over
clear igloo
Yah, TN has some big cities every now and then
lean pollen
clear igloo
Cable management is meh, do it again!
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^
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Imagine if Asus did servers and racks
waxen scroll
asus does servers
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Would it be ROG themed and have RGB? If so, someone, please shoot me
What
someone please shoot me, jk
lean pollen
I hope it isn't any info in that picture I am not supposed to show
lean pollen
It is not English yes
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If it's not English
I can't read it
@waxen scroll ok good
I was surprised when I found out that gigabyte does servers and stuff
@waxen scroll do you go to work all year?
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Rip
waxen scroll
made up stat, but 90% of adults do
waxen scroll
part time, etc
waxen scroll
they let me work at home 2 days a week
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Only 2 days?
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Out of a 5 day week or 7 day week?
waxen scroll
5
waxen scroll
tuesday... im allowed to do thurs and friday back to back but i prefer to spread it out to make the week more bearable
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Oh
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Lol
waxen scroll
"but then its like a 4 day weekend!" ... ok so why is thurs and friday allowed back to back?
managers dont think straight
waxen scroll
last job gave us 3 days work from home... but it was such a crappy job that you would be stressed out to the max even with that
waxen scroll
managers dont know how to manage and were making poor decisions on the direction of the IT... caused a ton of stress and anxiety
they ended up moving most of the IT jobs to india
i hear they're paying for it ;p
its not going well
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Oh
waxen scroll
they got bamboozled by the outsourcing company... they were supposed to have /some/ american labor and they did 100% india instead
most of the people local to india working at these places are pump and dump cert exam takers and the job is over their heads
but they got such a great deal on cost per hour
waxen scroll
o0o fancy looking
astral veldt
Yeah the newer mcdonald's are pretty nice all considering
rocky badge
But the food hasn't chanhedb
high anchor
In France they installed in all McDonald's restaurants those order terminals to replace orders taken from the cashiers (there are still some of them but only to pay your already made order with money) and some McDonald's are offering delivering with Uber Eats. (and also because of the EU, food quality is better)
high anchor
Uber Eats is a service from Uber that allows you to order food from restaurants and get delivered by bike to your home
high anchor
And McDonald's have partnered with Uber Eats to offer delivering services
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SO YOU NEVER HAVE TO LEAVE YOUR CAVE, I MEANT ROOM caps caps caps caps caps caps caps
high anchor
👌
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😄
high anchor
(But you have a 3€50 fee for each order...)
waxen scroll
i never eat at mcdonalds... and BK/wendys have been significantly reduced over the years. lots of better places around
BK/wendys is good for a road trip
thick minnow
I can't eat at McDonald's becausei can't eat and touch peanuts
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Rip
Wait no
THAT'S A GOOD THING caps caps caps
You don't have to suffer with McDonald's food
thick minnow
But McDonald's sell a junk food
waxen scroll
i didnt like mcdonalds food as a kid and while my tastes have changed i never bothered to start going there
rocky badge
If I can choose fried or baked or something else
I never choose fried
Fried is ok, but it's not my favorite
waxen scroll
im surprised. fried usually tastes the best
you want a really awesome taste? go to wendys and ask for FRESH chicken nuggets
eat them while hot
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Lol
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Wow
high anchor
We definitely need a food channel ^^
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Ye
high anchor
Where we could share our country specialties ^^
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Lol
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Oof
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Lol
elfin socket
Of course Kirino would pose there, if you know about her Tsundere Incest character 😉
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@waxen scroll do you watch anime or whatever that is? 👀
waxen scroll
i do
waxen scroll
werent they gonna advertise this discord in videos?
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Who?
waxen scroll
ltt
waxen scroll
i think they need a networking host
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Yee
waxen scroll
i am not authorized to work in canada(tm)
waxen scroll
i could probably get in
i think i might meet the req's for being "top talent"
its not always defined the same everywhere
its a mix of experience, college degree, etc
waxen scroll
your experience wont be the same as anyone elses
;p
for example, i didnt intern (too prideful) or anything like that... got a job within months of graduating
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Is that a good or bad thing?
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Lol
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Cisco?
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what's CCNA xd
waxen scroll
cisco certified network associate
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Ah
waxen scroll
i labbed a lot of linux
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Nice
waxen scroll
networking jobs were hard to get at the time, so the server experience helped
waxen scroll
yeah, and they're still hard to get now as well
i do get rejected for even a first interview more than i'd like
and im experienced
:X
i dont resume blast though
i target specific companies
waxen scroll
wdym is what?
clear igloo
What do you mean
waxen scroll
me?
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Yeah you
clear igloo
Resume blasting is sending out a resume to every company imaginable
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Oh
waxen scroll
im saying that i lock myself into companies with the following specs: Fortune 500 (or private equalivant), no startups, no small/medium businesses, must have more than 100 remote sites, must have a dedicated network team with a minimum of 2 other staff that do my same job
and theres more, i dont feel like listing it
you get it
clear igloo
Basically, go where the money and security is 😃
waxen scroll
its all about money (salary and equipment), modern equipment, business that understands that they need IT to run, and having people that can back me up on vacations
and no constant on call
clear igloo
Yah, that's a big one
waxen scroll
with my last two job moves im pretty much priced out of going to a small/med business unless i become a manager
rocky badge
pretends to understand it ok, nah I'm sorta getting it XD
waxen scroll
Christinas Cupcakes isnt gonna pay $100k+ for a salary
clear igloo
^
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Lmao
waxen scroll
but another problem is created, now im a specialist and am highly paid.... so now the specifications i locked myself into are locked whether i like it or not
only way to get out is to take lower pay
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Rip
clear igloo
And that's not always easy either
People think "he made X and therefor won't accept x-blah"
waxen scroll
ive had the opposite happen too
waxen scroll
"i know i make $70k but the market rate is 100k... thats what i want"
and the recruiter goes uhhhhhh
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Oh
clear igloo
Yah, it's very complicated 😦
waxen scroll
luckily i found a job that corrected my low pay
clear igloo
Nice, I've been debating that but I love what I do too much
I got kind of screwed on pay because of how I came into Cisco but management is working on fixing that, slowly
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me doesn't get what you're saying
clear igloo
@rocky badge Find a job you love, take competitive pay, and then don't leave unless you have to
Don't sell yourself short
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Oh
waxen scroll
xD
i left a job i loved because they played me with contracting and pay for 5 years
i was able to force raises from them but it wasnt enough in the end
market got away from them
clear igloo
Yah, some companies don't like to keep pay competitive with the market =/
clear igloo
We talking about money and jobs, lol
waxen scroll
@rocky badge contract jobs = low pay (dont believe people who say high pay), no vacation days, no sick days, no benefits
waxen scroll
90% of contract jobs are low pay... 10% are consultants who charge $300/hr
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Oof
waxen scroll
they're great for new people TBH
you get in with low risk to the employer, then get out
get experience
clear igloo
Experience > School
waxen scroll
some employers are looser with hiring standards if its a contractor
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Lol
clear igloo
I got tired of working retail, slinging soda all day, so I started taking network classes on a whim and heard about a coop offer and next thing I know, I'm here 😄
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Lol
waxen scroll
i graduated around 2009.... after the market crash.... coops? internships? what were those?
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I was 5 in 2009...
clear igloo
Yah, I fiddled around for a while after high school in 2008. Two years wasted at DeVry for "programming" then I just drifted with business and happened to try networking and it clicked
clear igloo
A fireman?
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What
waxen scroll
i wanted to do PC repair for a living....
then i was like NAHHHH lets try networking
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Why...
clear igloo
geek squad shudder
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Isn't that Apple?
waxen scroll
there wasnt really a degree in PC repair, but there was in networking.... so i decided to not do repair
whats funny was i was doing a lot with linux, IRC, hosting services... but i didnt understand the concept of a subnet
just put /24 for everything
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Lol
waxen scroll
😄
clear igloo
Waste all the addresses!
waxen scroll
but server people today are the same way
dont know what a subnet is, just ask the network guy for it
waxen scroll
i want to try to make my company do an IPv6 pilot
oh lord the resistance im going to get
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Lol
waxen scroll
i had it working inside a massive lab
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I can never configure v6 with winserver
high anchor
IPv6 isn't that complicated, and even more, is simplier to deploy IMO. (But you have to ensure that your firewall is correctly setup before doing anything
clear igloo
IPv6 can just be a pain if you don't have DNS sometimes
waxen scroll
Ipv6 triggers me. We're not supposed to waste, but telecos won't advertise greater than /48 ... So what do you do if you have multiple sites and don't want to use Nat?
Now you have to waste address space
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Lol
clear igloo
NAT66 😄
clear igloo
Also, if you have more than 65K sites, maybe you need more than 1 provider?
NAT for IPv6 to IPv6
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Oh
clear igloo
The most evil of all evil
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Xd
high anchor
Well, they have been calculations about IPv6 :
BUT, there are 6-billion people on the planet, so if everyone was assigned just one IP address, we’d run out and leave 1/3rd of the world without IP addresses. So they invented IPV6, a 128-bit value, which is 16-bytes long. Since they had to identify this to distinguish it from 4-byte values, the 1st byte has a 1-byte value that was never used in the 1st byte of the original 32-bit addresses. So that leaves 2120 possible IP addresses using IPV6. How big is that? Well, several web sites say there are 1.33 x 1050 atoms in the earth. That’s way bigger than 2120. But to make it come closer, I computed the number of atoms on the surface of the earth. That turns out to be 1.26 x 1034 atoms. 2120 is 1.33 x 1036, which is still bigger by 105 times. So we could assign an IPV6 address to EVERY ATOM ON THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH, and still have enough addresses left to do another 100+ earths. It isn’t remotely likely that we’ll run out of IPV6 addresses at any time in the future.
This sentence says it all :
So we could assign an IPV6 address to EVERY ATOM ON THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH, and still have enough addresses left to do another 100+ earths. It isn’t remotely likely that we’ll run out of IPV6 addresses at any time in the future.
Yeah... Way better on PC
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And it doesn't even highlight it
hasty pine
(repost) Hi, so a buddy of mine is thinking of giving me money towards a Dedi server(for game server hosting) to have at home. but i just want some suggestions for hardware er are in en 2300usd range. and living in EU so prices based on those should be eu if possible:D hope someone can help abit. so far we har just gone on the buy a i7 8700, 64gb ram, and 500gb sdd ish. 😄
clear igloo
What sort of game(s)?
Let me rephrase, do they need a dGPU for the server or is it all CPU/RAM based that wouldn't benefit from a dGPU?
hasty pine
Minecraft mostly. running 3-4 heavy modded servers. and an arma 3 server
erm tbh idk what dGPU is. or what game servers need it.
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You want ram then
clear igloo
dedicated GPU
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MC servers don't need a dGPU
clear igloo
Yah, wasn't sure about the Arma serverr
hasty pine
idk of any game servers that benifit from gpus
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Me neither
clear igloo
ok
hasty pine
was going for high core count and high ghz aka good single core performance
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For Minecraft you want ram
hasty pine
yea iknow that. 😄
clear igloo
Look at a used Dell R720 or R730 on eBay perhaps?
Minecraft is single core bound isn't it?
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Ummmmm
clear igloo
Been so long so I forget if it can use multi-core or not
real oracle
minecraft is very much so singlecore bound
clear igloo
the server bit though?
hasty pine
currently got a i7 4770 with 32gb and 500gb ssd, on a dedi from a hosted place.
real oracle
the server part can take advantage of multiple threads but it's still heavily dependant on single core performance
hasty pine
yea
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It has a ton of threads
clear igloo
I see an R730 on ebay (US though) with 96GB of RAM and 2x 8 core 3.2GHz chips
for ~$1900
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That should be plenty for a couple modded MC servers
real oracle
yeah
clear igloo
Yah, the Arma server worries me the most. I know it can be a beast on the client side though
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My 2c 4GB VM for Minecraft is enough for a 5 player server XD
And use Debian for the servers
For Minecraft
clear igloo
ESXi and then spin up a VM per server 😃
clear igloo
ESXi is free
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I thought it wasn't
hasty pine
well ill be sure to look up the used market aswell
clear igloo
vCenter isn't free
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clear igloo
But you don't need that for a single server
waxen scroll
we UNRAID now!
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Oof