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fun story: my last one died 1 day out of the amazon return window and Arris told me it was MY fault
told them they will take this RMA one way or another
amazon took it back
Haha, nice
Nice!
its a messy guide
does the job
Lol
That's all that matters
It's home networking, nothing is going to be pretty.
@clear igloo wanna hear something I find dumb?
Sure
i remember when the school didnt have wifi! we had appletalk... we LIKED IT
XD
XD
daisy chained RJ-11
We had token ring back in my day and you passed the messages like a good computer!
your school can watch linus and learn about UBNT extention
no
i would do the extention with UBNT, then drop it off locally on a switch, then do APs off the switch
i prefer fiber to the field tho
fiber all the things!
if you're going to run conduit anyway... fiber... otherwise direct burial cable i guess
they do they job but its a mixed bag.... some will go 5 years, others will not
I was expecting more of a mess of cables
yeah ive done that type of work before
its because the cable was terminated bad
have to redo
oops.
The second picture is for the new intercom upgrades
Lmao
All of the Ethernet has been ran for the new intercoms
when you do 100 cable terminations its easy to derp on at least one of them and mix the colors up
because its so BORING
Yeah
Quick! A or B standard?
i use B
What? ๐
B ftw!
B was what the cable standard was at my first job, so thats what i do for everything
Oh
@rocky badge HIt that dude that didnt put that one cable in
@hallow nimbus lol
Because the one who put them in is color blind
XD
Do they come out color coded at the patch?
Also, who put a red cable in the blue jack?!?
a few places ive worked did color code
A savage
probably what it is
I'm finding random pictures in my Google Photos
XD
no point in color code if you have labels TBH but whatever, i didnt pay
Lol
Color code is for if some dickhead removed the labels
10/10 place for servers
Yea totaly
ok i am here linux what you want
No AC and no fresh air
@wind folio you never just hangout
lol
i habgout on diferent servers
Dell SFF PCs on the floor
Do you also have a dell mouse and keyboards ?
Yes
Oof
A dell branded chair?
dell is my favorite server
@clear igloo no, sadly
^ dell lover alert
Yeee
have you ever had an outage and the server was HP?
do you know how long an HP takes to post?
its BRUTAL
XD
Monitor while you monitor
^
Lmao
Put Camera's on tree's houses everything aslong your house is safe XD
A magic box appears!
lol
Lol
He probably changed his grades to be A++
@waxen scroll yes XD
Logged into other students' accounts
LOl
Because someone put user passwords in the AD description field
Because of a leak ?
I still have a copy of their old AD
lol
^
those LEDs are cancer
They are even placed like it @waxen scroll
Ew apple
is that pokemon?
on the door
^ fuck @rocky badge
That laptop with the blue screen is providing Ethernet to my laptop
@waxen scroll no
macOS doesn't support my WiFi card
XD
That cable management job was so bad my routing protocol changed itself to RIPv1
Do you minecraft while you minecraft while you minecraft ? https://bluecrazii.nl/images/78827bb63.png
after watching louis rossman, im never buying apple products.... i havent yet anyway
Oof
MacBook"Pro"
Apple products = expensive
Apple is so pro you don't need peripherals, or a screen, or a keyboard
or anything else for that matter, just give them money
it annoys me that so many network engineers use apple shit then bitch how it doesnt work right with windows RDP
Oof
XD
XD
XD
That Sierra Mac is my hackintosh
This is has turned into posting random pictures that somewhat relate to networking xd
personally im angry that BYOD adoption is going so slow. i want them to give me $800-1k and then ill go get a $2k laptop of my choice
SSDs
you got lucky
SSDs are just starting to make an appearance in corporate
And office 365
They can play Minecraft at solid 60
๐
And they aren't shit Chromebooks
they only get laptops with SSDs if thats what the vendor is forcing on them
Oof
if they can get cheaper with HDD, they will
Brb bathroom
That's why I'm glad we lease our laptops, SSDs galore ๐
๐
Boss approved 4x16GB RAM sticks as well when I ordered my refresh laptop last year too ๐
Did you wash your hands?
Xd
No
There was one sink
And a guy was brushing his teeth
@hallow nimbus oof
@clear igloo why lease?
It's cheaper or something
Oh
Oof @rocky badge Bring dat server to meh
No
We can sometimes get approval to buy the laptops outright, or order a custom one, but 99% of the time it's just use what's approved already
My server
Of course now they are calling a dual core laptop with 8GB of RAM the "Engineering" model -.-
Ffs
I have 10Mbps up at home
Idk test it
Ooh
Oooo, nice
@rocky badge Does it have HYperthreading ?
Just like you ๐
lol
@hallow nimbus I'm not old
@clear igloo @waxen scroll this shows when a computer is using a VPN for logins right? ๐
dunno, only used cisco anyconnect
Oh
never seen that
Same
๐
:p
Not mine cable managemment
Not my network
There's the old grey Mac Pro
Not the trash can Mac Pro
Inb4 Lurick names every switch in that photo
XD
Because it's Cisco
I can't see the models clearly ๐
xd
Windows, this isn't HyperV Server. . .
ignore that random origin certificate on my desktop ๐
lol
I swear it's not from school
reports to school
What a waste of a USB 3.0 hub
@clear igloo it's not from school actually
It's my SSL certificate for my web server
reports to FBI
Why
I dunno
I dunno isn't a valid answer
It's a valid answer, lol
NO ITS NOT 
๐คฃ
I've reported you to the internet police for securing your data and hiding it away
lol
She also said 802.11n is 5GHz
It's both ๐
Nice, the Ryzen processor on paper towel scares me though
XD
lol
built someone an 1800X and he just had me replace it with a i9-7980XE
lot of VMs? Or just because?
just because
lots of money to blow and doesnt care for investing outside his 401k
i just go OK! and build expensive PCs
๐
he has a limit surprisingly, but high end costs so much that trying to add non-AIO water cooling is like UGH
so its not a dream rig type situation, but its powerful
no cable sleeving other than whats on the PSU already as well
Well as long as they're not ketchup/mustard cables that's fine ๐
What gpu do i see there
Nvidia one
No shit ....
No shit it was no shit
I meant what sort of a gpu 1060/1070 /1080/1080 TI
Titan xp
@waxen scroll ooh nice
fancy
So messy
too many network shares orrr.. not enough
Needs more shares
uses all A-Z
Geez
ofc linux goes beyond that and just reuses letters after 26 iirc
Oh
Uses samba to share them
Then mounts all as windows shares
Runs out of letters
lol
I put them in a RAID 10 (the HDDs) and RAID 1 (SSDs)
I think peak read/write speeds was like 16 to 20 Gbit/s or more
XD
Yah, eat all the data!
Nice
I wish I had a laptop so I could review photos
/shrug
A guy commented on my shirt xd
"There's no place like 127.0.0.1"
๐
the temptation to buy bulk cat6 is real atm
Wait for CAT8
get bulk or get a crap ton of premade cables of different sizes
Bulk if you have a ton of different sizes and don't want to cable manage too much
And pay @rocky badge to make them all for you
You'll crimp the cables and you'll like it!
๐ค
No, they pay you to crimp the cables
Or make @clear igloo but then
You crimp cables, get money
last time i used a crimper, i got my finger stuck in the hole
XD
very. painful
I've only crimped coax
W/O, Orange, W/G, Blue, W/B, Green, W/B, Brown
No
It's weekend ๐

Very rare for me to work a weekend
I recently got a job.. teaching kids how to program. None of them want to learn and it's making me sad
Damn kidses!
Oof, ok.
You're an exception to the rule
ltt
Oh yah, I'm always on there too
XD
Gboard is, umm, suggestive.
It's only based on what you type a lot >.>
๐ค
gboard knows all
Facebook knows all
Thank goodness none of my OSes have Cortana
Or if she's present, she's disabled. 
@clear igloo A l e x a
Hey Alexa, tell me to kill myself.
Jk
XD
I was expecting something different XD
lol
Home app requires WiFi to see offline devices
So my work is doing summer camps. there's going to be too many kids for me to handle. Me and 2 others
The same kids that don't want to be there?
although, not sure why it's $320 to learn how to "code drones"
for a half day
yeah, most likely @clear igloo
Oof help me
That's no fun, I always get disappointed in teaching when people don't care to listen
That should have been @raw verge
So he's used to his students not caring
yah, kids are the worst XD
aside you and some others ๐
7th grade wasn't terrible, high school is worse I think
Lol
Geez that was a long break without reception
@clear igloo I'm going into 9th grade next year
I'm a senior next year then going to school for network administration
Discord over 1X 
Yah, not ITT or something though right?
no you dont
^
Why
I thought you were older @rocky badge
back when the price made sense over state universities
ooooooooooooooooooooooooof
It didnt
Time to fuck with Ryois https://bluecrazii.nl/images/eb23c92d0.png
Gl loading dat
4G
poor ryois and his signal
Woo
XD
feels bad man
i lied
@waxen scroll I went to DeVry for programming, quit after two years because it was garbage
for programming, probably. i went for networking
the skills i learned outside of school helped me get started in a career
networking was only a bonus
Yah, I made mistakes when picking my path
Eventually settled on networking after I took a class and got hooked ๐
And now I also have to do some basic programming, lol
also i worked for their parent company for about 10 months and had to quit... so bad.
this was last year
heres an LOL
Lol
yah, they put me in one class that required some $300 books, it had ZERO code in it
the day of my onsite at the new place, devry calls me up and tells me im getting laid off cause of outsourcing
it was a programming class
YEP a tech school outsourcing!
HA!
irony.
i only worked there as leverage to make good on a threat to the employer before about pay
they were paying like $30k more
so i used em as a steping stone
Yah, I stumbled into my career that I've got now. Just got lucky with an intern/coop position and sailed up from there
for just the networking piece, i got lucky too. i had to do a contract though but it really helped
Anything to get the foot in the door is all you need sometimes ๐
goal is to get back into pharma eventually because thats where the $$$$ for equipment comes from unlike other businesses
not sure i wanna do a service provider
to be an engineer and higher at an SP you have to be godlike or have good connections
otherwise you're a support bitch
Yah, gotta know BGP like the back of your hand too
my problem is that if you let me have a go, im going to impress.... if you try to do quizzes and shit in interviews, my mind blows up
so even if i was really good, it would still be hard
but its a shame that so many people lie about what they did at other jobs that employers have to have some way of catching it
Rip
So, you want to hear a funny interview?
yessss
Had one guy who was constantly leaning forward in his interview, just a bit of a shuffle kind of thing, did it a lot
It was via WebEx unfortunately but towards the end I realized he was muting the mic on his phone to google the questions being asked
XD
He held up some diagram he copied and said "This is what I've worked on". It was an ACI spine/leaf topology but he couldn't tell us what micro-segmentation was
couldn't even answer what segmentation was
my interview nightmare was when i had a phone screen and the guy was like "whats the backplane bandwidth of a nexus XXX?"
i was like... are you kidding me?
they seemed disappointed that i couldnt immediately answer... i didnt get called back
i dont remember what model
Stupid question to ask though
very.
and they asked a bunch of routing / redundancy questions and again were upset that i answered in a valid way that they dont use
I know a few because I work on them all the time so I've just ingrained it in my head, even though it doesn't really matter since I never stress the backplane much
its like.... BITCH, i have 800 sites deployed like this right now.... you're stupid
haha, yah. It should be about the thought process to get to the answer that's most important
some how i cant get these jobs but i have insiders who tell me who works there and the talent is complete ass
how did i not get a second interview?
Lol
It's not about answering correctly, it's about telling them what they want to hear ๐ฆ
yeah i dont want to work for a company who does that
im not a yes man, i will get into conflict
at least listen to my side and if they say no, OK fine. they were warned
๐
Yah, or make them tell you why they think it's the best
i had a boss who wanted two routers for redundancy at a corp HQ (MPLS+Internet) but wouldnt pay for a router at the datacenter for IPSEC/GRE+BGP and then told me "no, we're still doing two routers"
great bro but when the MPLS fails DNS will too
internet circuit wont work
if he wont pay an extra $2k for a datacenter router, why would he still want $2k for a second router that wont help?
"redundancy" of course ๐
oh and they forked out for dual ASA too
Better than dual firepowers >.>
it was dual ASA w/ FP modules
they used a LOT of T1s as well... so they could have spent maybe $4k for a 4451 at the datacenter and ditched a lot of T1s for broadband
i told them this
NO!
๐
Yah, a lot of customers that I work with are ditching T1 for ethernet and 4G backup
the T1 sites typically didnt have many users, so a 4451 was not gonna get overloaded
Yah, definitely not
Even a 4331 would probably suffice
depending on the number of users ofc
Due to Toys r us closing, i wonder if they're liquidating their networking equipment. and if they are if it any good
Probably will, nobody bought them up that I heard of
i wish cisco had a lab program where you can use your VAR to buy lab equipment direct with your company discounts, but its in your name and paid by you versus the company who may refuse to sell it to you
i also think if the company pays you are charged double sales tax
Yah, the biggest issue with that is people who buy low and then resell it again to try and profit
I believe they did it internally for a bit but some people abused it ๐ฆ
Although we can still get Meraki gear at a nice discount, lol
no thanks ๐ฆ
they made me LOL
so its cloud managed yeah
in order to do tunnels from the AP to your datacenter, you need a meraki controller on site anyway
you cant just terminate the tunnels on some other equipment
guest networks are nightmares if you cant tunnel
security nightmares.... its not hard to set up
Yah, that's one of my biggest issues with them
and they need constant internet so testing is always a pain
oh and then theres the time they lost a ton of customer data early last year
we lost maps and other data from hundreds of sites
its a project just to recreate that and we have no time
Ouch, I remember hearing about that
Wanna know something sad. The only two internet plans in my area are comcast and att (DSL). Att is charging $40(Plus fees) for 1.5mbs download while comcast is charging $74 for 120Mbs
You should go with the 1.5Mbps, nobody needs more than that
in my area its ATT 25mbit or Comcast 100mbit... both $40
I've got AT&T fiber 1Gbps for $80/month but Spectrum wants $135 for 940/40
fiber is 2 years out
or i can get HughesNet!!
comcast has 2gb fiber service now but its $300/m, plus install fees, plus 3 year contract
Hughes Net Gen 5!!!
ouch
WTF?!!!
50GB of data, that's like a cell plan
Heck I can do 300Mbps for $99/m
I have a provider that does 1Gb/s for $50/month.
i want
They own their own lines, but sadly that package isn't part of my HOA.
unfortunate
Become president of HOA
Rewrite ordinances to allow fiber
Get fiber
Profit
25% of my neighborhood got fiber, then we got a new HOA
Then the HOA said no to fiber
so now only some people get fiber
That's even more stupid, to stop the install part way through the neighborhood
People that join an HOA aren't very smart, most times. They're just in it for the position, the power, and very rarely do they actually do anything smart or worthwhile.
My cable guy is on his HOA. They have fibre because he fought for it. He's a damn decent guy.
Good guy cable guy
Not worth joining the HOA in my neighborhood, no one agrees on things. andddd have been in 6 lawsuits
still in 2 actually
yikes
Hello
๐
Finally got cell reception
welcome back
1x
Lol
dang with 1x on sprint i can't do crap
Kill me
all i got is the apple friendly water gun ๐ซ
In streaming Spotify and on discord
literally in front of my pc but too lazy to type
the struggle
Wow
scary
o_o
Huh
I know why I'm getting good reception
I just passed by a cell tower like 20ft away xd
that'll do it
I wonder who's the best cell provider here
Definitely not Crikit, AT&T, and T-Mobile.
i need something that is unique and not my lastname xd
Xd
the struggle
Wooot
We're at the hotel
Time to get out of this cramped car
HOPEFULLY THEY HAVE DECENT WIFI caps caps caps caps caps
as long as it's not panama city beach, fl you'll likely have decent wifi
ew
?
att
Yeah
figured it out. i'll use a random street name around me as my name
@raw verge ok the internet is 5/5
Not as good as the free 50/50 I got at a different hotel
?
as a name
Miovo
Hai
Hi
Hello
Hola
it is now
NO ITS NOT reeeeeeeeee
let me live!!
No
XD
didn't know the year 2000 was less than 13 years ago, news to me
it is
rip
I'm 14 and I haven't gotten my account locked. Or does this not apply to people in the US? 
It happens to everyone that is changing his birth date on Twitter while having created their account before the age of 13, because at this age you weren't able to concent about data treatment. And apparently, even if you are able to concent now, they don't care and just continue to refuse your ID because they are "unable to confirm your age".
Sended mine 3 times, got rejected each times.
Probably only happens for EU citizens @rocky badge
i'm US
That's what I think
Oh
Because I'm 14 and I created my Twitter
Umm
Idk how long ago
So yeah, Twitter being Twitter.
Well in that day you could've turned 13
Yeah but, you know, Twitter stuff. Just try to follow their instructions and pray for their support to do something.
(don't expect too much from their support tho)
Twitter is just a garbage social network that only survives by ads and sponsored content.
Oof
i deleted FB v_v
had a good LOL when they were advertising during deadpool about being "sorry"
you mean workplace?
Oof
same thing
theres no ads on that platform, so not much they can do/sell

^ me
the intentions are good... they want to increase communication with a portal
but after a few months it always breaks down into a meme posting site
I'm young too them
Translation : Twitter doesn't know how calculate some time and date to filter some freaking data in a freaking database, but everything is fine !
dang
I'm younger than you 
I'm freaking 20, I've sended them 3 freaking copies of my ID and they still can't calculate that if I'm born the 25 of April 1998, I'm old enough to know and accept what data is and what they are freaking doing with them.
Oof
Twitter should have died years ago, when they were near bankruptcy, this could have been a better thing.
You're 20?...
Yeah, since April 25 of this year
Stop making me feel young 
Even a 4 years old could do this math and say by my birth date that I'm old enough...
But Twitter can't
Oof that's sad
And they are earning money by putting ads on cureated timelines created with all the data they are processing. I'd be really scared by what they are doing with them if they can't even know what your freaking age is.
should i have windows server manage dns and dhcp
not unless you have a domain
i do
I use both
anyone else here use PiHole
I used it
Got rid of it
Xd
I ran it on a Debian VM
Because I didn't want to use a dedicated machine for it
Nope
i broke it.
Lol
Oof
so how/what could somone use to pick up a wifi signal from about 60-100 foot
Ok my internet is bad quite often becaus my family and my grandparents hous/router is about 60-100 foot away from my house how could i pick there wifi signal up
Yeah i could
Ubiquiti APs are known to do 300 yards, at least.
I got a wifi signal from that distance across a lake.
Aby thing a bit cheaper
Those are the best at a low price range, otherwise you're looking at dd-wrt and a bit of overclocking.
Ok so how do the ubiquti aps work like i mount it at my house or
I could get a internet service but im saving for a car while having to buy most of the food i eat so its real not a option
Getting a WRX are you
how do you set port forwarding on a belkin router that has no port forwarding option?
my NAS can be accessed by http but not ftp
Additionally, how do you sync photos to a QNAP NAS on an iPhone?
Qsync should have an iphone app
watching youtube videos in 144p and still buffering. Finland best internets.
Rip
Anyone here currently using any available mesh networking solution?
Im moving into a larger place soon, and I don't think a single router is going to cut it.
Rather than have a second router set up as an AP I was looking into the mesh solutions like the amplifi HD, or netgear Orbi
Im turning away from the amplifi HD as it doesn't have MU-MIMO support.
So the netgear orbi is looking good atm, does anyone have any experiences with it good or bad?
Maybe go UniFi?
@hollow helm currently liking the Buffalo AirStation option.
I have a bricked one next to me.
ok, ill have a look at that
Asus also announced a new mesh thing as part of their "omgwtf look how insane this gamer router looks" linup a couple days ago
If thats any good and not too silly on the wallet I might look at that
I'll wait on jumping on the 802.11AX bandwagon until products that use it are on the market ๐
@rocky badge what do you mean?
Why would you need AX right now?
Oh, I thought you were getting that. ๐
but that thing uses AX as a backhaul between the units
Im thinking about it
its not released yet
they only just announced it
Oh
basically I need a mesh system, and so far:
Google home: Range not ideal
Amplifi HD: No MU-MIMO support
Netgear Orbi: Seems ok, Though not a massive fan of the bulk/design and reviews seem mixed
So this looks like it might cover all bases fairly well
will wait for reviews etc first ofc
and if it costs more than a damn car ill look for something else XD
At home I use a Netgear R7000
and there is no ethernet throughout the house so a second router configured as an AP isn't an option
When we move weโll get ~10-15 UniFi APs
Hmm
If I had to choose, Iโd go for the Asus
Definitely not Netgear
Google WiFi, eh
Yeah
ppl raving about having ac and ax and 5ghz wifi while having 20mbit banwidth...
Lmao
@thick minnow For me its more about internal speed.
I've got 300mbs internet connection, so faster wifi would be nice but not necessary.
The main thing is that cause I use a NAS etc having a faster internal network would be very beneficial
well good luck moving that in the air
is it worth running fibre lc cables in the wall and making custom (4x10gbe+40gbe connection to nas) switch using vyos
Ummm, oh good. Lurick is here. He'll know this ๐
You could get a 40GbE QSFP and then get a 4x10G breakout with LC connectors and couple them together. Or just get a BiDi optic if you have a single cable and it's MM
Or an QSFP-40G-LR4 optic and do a single run of single mode instead of multi-mode
But to the original point, @opal pagoda , yes 40GbE is totally worth it if you can make use of it ๐
OH! I totally misread that x.x
You want to know if it's worth it to make a custom switch!
could i also run ehternet(from isp) with it so i wouldnt need to run a second cable just for ehternet
Depending on what you make the switch with component wise, you should be able to get a copper NIC for that part too to add into it
Haven't really done anything with vyos before but if I remember right it just runs on a Linux kernel on any machine so if you have the slots for another NIC then there shouldn't be an issue there
thank you
holy hell
40gb for home?
big bawler
i used to do the whole NAS thing, then i asked myself WHY since local storage is always faster and you can toss up a file share for any other machine
but i use desktop more than any other device
i wouldnt do this 40gb thing unless i was running ESX off it
also @clear igloo correct me if im wrong but a port channel wont do any good (4x10gb comment) if you're at home going to a single target
yes i am aware that 40 gb is overkill but why not since i will be building custom nas server and 40gbe infiniband nic is cheaper than 10 gbe card
well if you're doing infi, you should be good to go... i was assuming you were trying to port channel
Po's use a table and generally keep your connection on one of the four 10Gb versus using all of them at once
I'm just planning on 20Gb for my servers
would this work for freenas
@waxen scroll plus a network share is more convenient than a local drive.
i wont argue that but who honestly needs over 1Gb.... its fine for steaming 4k video to your TV and for large files at home you can generally wait a little versus the huge cost of other solutions
im speaking in general
there will be people with special needs
@waxen scroll correct, port-channels hash traffic so a single src/dst won't give more than a single link
And that's just for me ๐ parents get stuck with 4x gigabit
you should get your parents to buy you mGIG switches and an access point
We'll probably get UniFi AP-Pros
I agree, they should buy mgig stuff
Lol
i had a unifi order out and canceled it
Why
decided to wait until they have new standards on their APs instead of just wave 2
Oh
some how netgear has the new standard and ubnt doesnt
I know I can convince/get my dad to pay for the network
fail
Idk about servers and stuff XD
Well netgear knows people aren't smart and ubnt is waiting for demand probably
the demand from enterprise is gonna take 3 years
Probably
Yah, I don't think it will be until 2019 that any devices using AX are out
At school they're still using N
i dont think i even have any wave2 devices at home either
Same
@opal pagoda i dont use freenas so this is a guess.... if the card works on linux (probably) i dont see why it wont on freenas
Probably some Cisco lul
Cisco 3802i (I'm waiting on the 4800's to be orderable)
Nice
We ordered 3x packs of 10 instead of 3 single APs so we had extra XD
I wish my school's MDF looked this nice ;-;
We have ExtremeNetworks APs in every classroom
That MDF is smexy
Models depend on the room and time it was purchased
we called extreme networks support so often we had a special # to dial
lol, nice
extreme barely supports their AP device... its rebranded
its motorola
they call motorola for you
lol
i think the brand new ones are a different platform now... im not sure
I can't wait until August when I can order the new 400Gb cards >.>
Idk if you can see it, but there's an AP above the projectors
I see it





