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high anchor
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oops

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So, this is a new network protocol

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xd

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Ok

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Continue

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Tell me about this new protocol

high anchor
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Start to become invisible

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xd

high anchor
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xd

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lol

high anchor
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I could create a protocol where you send a "yes" packet and the other machine respond you "non't" and working as a ping protocol. And so explaining the name "NONT".

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Life = Saved

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Lol gg

high anchor
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Yeah, still no response from their Support...

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Ripppp

high anchor
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Temp account : @alex73630_bak

subtle glen
cinder folio
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The reason why is 3750s are end of life devices.

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They are still great, just replaced by the 3850 models, along with a bunch of newer Nexus fabric switches.

subtle glen
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oooh so thats why it was so low price

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considering that like tp link 48 port switches are like 200 euros, someone might find that tempting

cinder folio
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As long as you aren't trying to cobble it into an enterprise network, it will work really well.

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I still have a few 2960 s series switches I use on my home network.

subtle glen
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i got some catalyst 100 mbps switches, still thinking for a possible use

cinder folio
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They are good for building labs to study for cisco certs.

subtle glen
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i cant even connect to them with this pc...

cinder folio
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usb to db9 adapters are really cheap.

subtle glen
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i have to find a way to get it online

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one time i took my ssd out and put it in a pc that had the com port just to tryna log into the switch

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is there a way to access the switch using ubuntu?

cinder folio
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Management VRF IP address for
out-of-band interface
Mgmt-vrf 192.168.128.5
255.255.255.0

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With this you can connect through the oob port

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You can use putty in ubuntu

subtle glen
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how do i see on wich com is the switch detected

cinder folio
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or you can use telnet from bash

subtle glen
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is there some sort of device manager on there?

cinder folio
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It won't be com. It will be remote access through ethernet.

thick minnow
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dont buy old network hardware, specially from a brand so known as cisco

subtle glen
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doesnt putty use the com port the switch is connected at?

cinder folio
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You connect a cable from mgmt port to your PC dirrectly.

subtle glen
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i got it for free @thick minnow

thick minnow
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oh well

cinder folio
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That is through serial connection.

thick minnow
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i guess for free even gunshots right?

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XD

subtle glen
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on windows i had to look for the COM 1/2/3 etc and put that in putty

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lol

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but i used the usb console port, maybe thats different

cinder folio
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So you already have a rollover cable and usb-db9 cable?

subtle glen
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i have only the piece from rj45 to com

cinder folio
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does your system have a serial port?

subtle glen
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this pc doesnt, this one does but it has ubuntu and i dont know how to use it

cinder folio
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in bash run dmesg | grep tty to find your serial port

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I am sure that it will probably be labeled ttys0 though

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that will be com 1

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then ttys1 = com 2 and so on

modern portal
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putty on Linux LUL

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you should use screen

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the command would be like '''screen /dev/ttyS0 9600'''

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putty on Linux. . . wow

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That's sad

subtle glen
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dont worry

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i didnt managed to install it

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screen ftw

modern portal
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you can use an usb to RJ45 adapter

subtle glen
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i have to find a way to get it on amazon without credit card

modern portal
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the command would be like '''screen /dev/ttyUSB0 9600'''

subtle glen
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screw ubuntu

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i will use it for web browsing only

modern portal
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ubuntu is good tho

subtle glen
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nah

modern portal
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you should keep trying with the command i gave you

subtle glen
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im done with command prompts and stuff like that

modern portal
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oh you have to install screen with sudo apt install screen

subtle glen
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never works

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always "the directory is missing" etc etc etc

modern portal
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cd your way to the /dev directory

subtle glen
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tomorrow ill do a fresh install and ill try it

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since @cinder folio say it would be better

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seems im missing some directories and stuff like that

modern portal
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it shouldn't be cause your system would not work without the /dev directory

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i'll be there tomorrow if need help

subtle glen
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ok

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thanks

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also this ps has a bios password, migh not be so easy to install the new ubuntu since i cant even access the booot menu

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imma try again to leave the pc without the cmos battery

modern portal
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good idea

subtle glen
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i think i already tried, also to short the bios toreminals to reset it

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ill see tomorrow if it worked

subtle glen
hallow nimbus
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WHY

subtle glen
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๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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All those wasted rj45 plugs

hallow nimbus
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Yea

subtle glen
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All those cables that need to be crimped again

hallow nimbus
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RIPS

subtle glen
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I see you added baywatch on the server ๐Ÿ™‚

thick minnow
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i once saw an accident with a tplink switch where the plugs melted to the switch they had to cut the cables too lol

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it was an electrical thing

umbral ruin
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how the hell did that happen?

unreal wedge
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heat?

subtle glen
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Wtf how

unreal wedge
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Lots of constant data transfer?

hallow nimbus
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If that happens to your switch it aint good

subtle glen
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well i mean a switch should support a consistant amount of traffic every day for each port

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also the voltage in an ethernet cable is very low especially if it idoesnt have poe devices connected

unborn fox
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I've been looking to replace my cisco router with pfsense but use ospf on the network. Can someone help me in configuring ospf between pfsense and my cisco switches

unborn fox
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Nice! @grim salmon

thick minnow
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Hello!
Can anyone tell me whether I should use ECC memory for pfSense custom built router and/or for DIY NAS based on FreeNAS?
(Pro-consumer usage
1 Gbps symmetrical connection
Up to 15 clients at the same time)
๐Ÿค”

unreal wedge
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Depends on the workload and what exactly the router will be doing. Personally, I wouldn't outside of an enterprise setup.

thick minnow
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@unreal wedge thank you. So I'm gonna stick to non-ECC: but how many GBs? It depends not only on bandwidth but also on number of clients, right?

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And the NAS memory? Non-ECC as well?

unreal wedge
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EEC is mainly for large-scale setups.

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It's also slower.

thick minnow
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Thx

unborn fox
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Does anyone have experience with mactrack on cacti?

buoyant gorge
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Hi, need help

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I have a windows server 2016 PC with Hyper-V and a VM which is a AD / DHCP server

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the host can ping this VM (external switch) but the VM can't ping the host

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and i have another PC on the network that can ping the VM and the server and the VM can ping it

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all the firewalls are disabled

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network settings are good

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so i don't understand... moreover, when i put this VM on my dell xps, t works fine

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i'm thinking about a network card problem... i use a USB ethernet dongle on the XPS because it has no ethernet port, so the VM and the PC don't share the same network card contrary to the other PC (first one)

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so if anyone have an idea or anything...?

waxen scroll
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whats wireshark say?

thick minnow
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can you lay out a esquematic of the network you have going on?

wispy plover
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Anyone in here proficient with EnGenius? I'm not on site to try things and have some questions as to how to accomplish what my client wants done.

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@thick minnow perhaps?

thick minnow
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ehm i will do this once but what do you need

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or your client

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i charge $$

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5 buildings connecting to an access point in the middle (leasing office). Whatever company that did the install was using WDS. Can two radios that are set as "bridge" connecting via WDS talk to each other? What I ran into today was the WDS on the main access point only allows four radios to connect and I need 5. There's zero documentation on how the installing company did it and I've only used Ubiquiti up until this point (ignoring licensed microwave and milimeter wave links).

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So like, if I have buildings A, B, C, D, and E with the leasing office (O) being set as an access point...can I have say building E connect to building D via WPS, which then connects to the office via WDS as well.

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My gut thought is no and that I should just configure the buildings as stations instead of bridges.

thick minnow
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well

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there are many factors not only the number of clients(CPE)

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that goes into organizing the network

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whats the bandwith, what modulation and size of channel you talking about

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etc etc etc

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WDS has nothing to do with networking or routing

wispy plover
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It's all on 2.4Ghz, somewhere in an upper channel (11 I guess), there's a total of 31 2MP IP cameras on all of this. No clients aside from these.

thick minnow
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it s ont he level 1

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physical

wispy plover
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Routing doesn't matter, it's all just a LAN with no outside world access at all.

thick minnow
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31 cameras??

wispy plover
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Well...sort of. It's...it's a weird setup.

thick minnow
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sounds SHADY

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lol

wispy plover
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Each building as an NVR. That NVR is what's connecting over this network. So it is potentially still sending out up to 8 streams (building has a max of 8 cameras).

thick minnow
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oh i see

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the network is just for the nvr's

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the wireless links

wispy plover
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Like I said, we didn't do the installation...we're the third company they're bringing in to try and make this work lol. So I'm trying to bandaid it, but then give recommendations for upgrades/improvements (which I imagine the sales department will manage to screw up lol)

thick minnow
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so each building has 8 cameras

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and each building has a nvr that are hooked to the cameras

wispy plover
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Up to 8. Three buildings have 8, one has 4, one has 5. But for ease of talking, yes, each has 8.

thick minnow
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and those nvr's are the ones that are working in the wireless network

wispy plover
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Yes, correct.

thick minnow
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so 5 nvr's

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and in the 'noc' they want to access the nvr's streams

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do you happen to knoe the max bitrated all the 5 nvr's have at the same time?

wispy plover
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Yup. Apparently it all worked when this mystery company finished the installation, but they won't provide support, documentation, etc.

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I do not...because none of the buildings currently have all 8 cameras up. About 1/3 of the cameras are currently dead.

thick minnow
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no doesnt matter

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i am guessing all the nvr's are the same brand

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and model

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right?

wispy plover
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All identical, yup.

thick minnow
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first look up whats the max bitrate the one with 8 cameras consume when looking up remotely

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its 5 video streams we are talking about with through 2.4ghz

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the engenous models of the ap and cpes would be nice to know

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to see what are their limitations

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its a simple ptmp network that should work

wispy plover
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Says the total throughput of the entire unit is 65Mbps...but I don't see anything about bitrate otherwise.

thick minnow
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look

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65mbps is the entire throughput of the network yes

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this means pray to god that the engenius dont have some stupid option on to '' improve'' bandwith that is limiting everyhting off

wispy plover
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Another fun one: I believe the units on the buildings are ENH202s. Didn't think to grab the model of the AP in the leasing office (and I really, really wish I had). I know it's a 2.4GHz unit with a single omni directional antenna on it, looks to be indoor rated.

thick minnow
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also need to look up the quality of the links

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in these equipments a bad link can bring the whole network down if done badly

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its a omni antena? OFF

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fuck

wispy plover
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Signal strength showed the worst was -69dbm and best was around -55dbm when looking at a site survey, but I know there's more to it than just that.

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I couldn't find anything on their website that had a single antenna like this unit did.

thick minnow
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no noise on the channel right?

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from other sources

wispy plover
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Oh, also, it's omni because these buildings surround the office.

thick minnow
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lots of ppl make their own antenas and or buy from other brands that are cheaper

wispy plover
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The survey showed like 30 sources broadcasting, so I'm sure there's some noise. I started running into time issues of I had to go deal with another call when I got to looking at that.

thick minnow
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make sourveys on ap and all cpe areas}

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if you can bring a 5ghz n do the same

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you may need to switch to a quieter freq

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are these building too far apart?

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having a ptmp outdoor private network dedicated for security cams on 2.4ghz is rlly bad

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anyone with a laptop and ubuntu can hack into that

wispy plover
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The farthest link is around 375' Most are only 150'.

thick minnow
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meters?

wispy plover
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feet.

thick minnow
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i am looking at the ENH202

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looks like a engenius version of ubiquiti nanostation m2

wispy plover
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Pretty much, yeah.

thick minnow
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turn WDS off

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it eats half the bandwith

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anyway for these type of things you need to meedle alil bit

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i would never use wireless at all for security cameras

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always cable

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or fiber if needed

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thats my best advice

wispy plover
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I personally agree, but I don't typically have much say since I'm not the sales engineer, what could I possibly know lol

thick minnow
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soo your sales engineer wants a cheap solution that you guys can charge high as always lol

wispy plover
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I wish construction costs for burying fiber were cheaper. There's an airport with cameras and card access over wireless, most of which are around 1-1.5 miles apart.

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I'm hoping I can just drop a proposal (variety of proposals, actually) so they can just put together quotes.

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I'd love to get fiber between everything and get something like an Avigilon or Axis camera in place (they're AVTech cameras...I hadn't heard of those).

thick minnow
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if you cant lay cable i would go with 5gz ptmp ubiquiti

wispy plover
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....but I don't see that happening.

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5Ghz ptmp ubiquiti is what I'm comfortable with ๐Ÿ˜„

thick minnow
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i figure that one out

wispy plover
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So no need to try to convince me of that one lol

thick minnow
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u can even use the old airmax stuff

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still would be cheaper

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and more than enough bandwith

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dude 2.4ghz a 12 year old can hack that with his rooted android

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and i am not joking

wispy plover
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I'm not surprised.

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Semi-related: I wish I had something more than just Microsoft Word and Google Maps for giving them a packet of what they have and a variety of paths they can take from here.

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Hand drawing with shapes in word is...not my favorite.

thick minnow
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huh

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what do you need google maps for?

wispy plover
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All the cameras are on the outside of the buildings. They don't have a single map or print showing where cameras are at and roughly what they're pointing at.

thick minnow
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use google earth pro

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you can draw n do stuff in it

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i use it alot

wispy plover
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Hm, interesting. I usually forget Google Earth is a thing.

thick minnow
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the pro has more tools

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you can draw a line and cheek if theres line of sight with the elevation in google earth

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for ez links

wispy plover
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Neat. I always would play with the old version of airlink from Ubiquiti.

thick minnow
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i use radiomobile to finish the links tho

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but thats harder

upper sail
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Two weeks ago we bought a new netgear router, when we got home, i set it up and got all the other devices connected. But when i put my laptop on it, it says limited connection, it sometimes goes out of limited and i can use the internet, but within 10-15 minutes it goes back. Ive changed the dns to automatic

Router brand:Netgear

Router model:R6250

Laptop brand:Toshiba

Laptop model:C55D-A5392

Windows O.S.:Windows 8.1

thick minnow
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you need to call your isp

upper sail
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evryothing else works tho

wispy plover
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1.) have you tried putting a pineapple near your laptop?
2.) Are your laptop drivers up to date?
3.) Is the firmware of your router up the date?
4.) What are you connecting to? 2.4Ghz or 5.0Ghz? IPv4 or IPv6? is the network setup as "home", "work", or "public" in your wireless settings on windows?

upper sail
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2.4, home, and both? idk i am getting this help for my friend

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drivers are up to date

upper sail
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anything?

vague elk
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@upper sail are there other wifi signals around that could interfere with yours?

upper sail
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he lives in a town home, so i would assunme so, but i do not know for certain @vague elk

unborn fox
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Anyone know how to setup pfsense ospf with a cisco layer 3 switch?

clear igloo
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I know the cisco side ๐Ÿ˜„

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Hey I remember you from the forums. @clear igloo ๐Ÿ˜„

clear igloo
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I've been seen! ๐Ÿ˜„

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Hey Ryois

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Hello

hallow nimbus
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o/

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๐Ÿ‘‹

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clear igloo
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\o.o/
I surrender XD

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XD

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@clear igloo, not a stalker. . .but looked at your forums profile. . .geez that's a nice build. XD

clear igloo
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Thanks ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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Beats the build I want to do .-.

clear igloo
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Not about the specs but the fun you get out of it.
Nothing beats fun ๐Ÿ˜„

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True

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But I also have an Intel version

clear igloo
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lol, wrong link I think ๐Ÿ˜›

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XD

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There

clear igloo
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Nice, dual purpose box?

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Its gonna be my main computer

ashen lily
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@rocky badge why the outdated h100i? The v2 is much better

clear igloo
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With Win2K16 Data Center and 4-port NIC I figured it would be a PFSense box too

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or VM box

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It's a VM box

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Not pfsense

clear igloo
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That makes sense ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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Im going Edgerouter for that

clear igloo
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Nice

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Might switch the 4 port gigabit for 10 gigabit when. I move because hopefully when I move I'll have 10 gigabit in some rooms

clear igloo
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10Gbit ftw

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Yea

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Hmmm

clear igloo
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I would go 25Gb or 40Gb but I don't have the use for it (yet)

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yet

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This would give me a decent connection to my servers

clear igloo
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haha, yah, should probably just to 100Gb XD

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100Gb is too much for Plex XD

clear igloo
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16K uncompressed footage might use it ๐Ÿ˜„

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๐Ÿ˜„

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I love Plex

clear igloo
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Plex is love, plex is life

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^

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๐Ÿ˜„

clear igloo
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๐Ÿ˜›

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192.168.66.X

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Oof

clear igloo
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That's just one VLAN ๐Ÿ˜›

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Lol

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One sec

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Oof 600Kbps hotspot

clear igloo
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ouch, hotspots can be slow ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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Yeah

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My windows server handles dhcp

clear igloo
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Same here

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gotta run for a bit

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Ok

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Cya

faint mason
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Hello Guys, i have been trying to setup my HP Proliant dl380 g3 with linux but it doesnt recognise my CD and i cant find out how to create an PXE bootable network ISO

It has ILO but i cant get that to work because i need to have JVM 1.4.2 for the virtual controller to work, but that is also not working

waxen scroll
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why PXE when you can USB?

faint mason
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USB booting cant be used

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It cant boot from an thumb drive

waxen scroll
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unfortunately its been years since ive done it. the tl;dr is that you need to install a DHCPd and a TFTPd server, you need to tell the DHCPd server that theres a PXE file "syslinux.0" available on the TFTPd

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after that its distribution specific and google should help

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there are free TFTPd for windows where it also has DHCPd built in

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so then all you need to figure out is where syslinux.0 comes from and your distributions instructions

clear igloo
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@faint mason Have you tried using the HP Smart Start utility?

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You also need to use an actual CD, not a DVD, from what I've found as well

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Some people were having that issue, not sure if that might apply to you or not though

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Kill me

subtle glen
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LOL

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New Mexico has shit 4G

subtle glen
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for one time, i have a faster connection than yours hihihih

clear igloo
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I wonder if I should post mine >.>

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Why

clear igloo
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It's about 60x that XD

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4G of course but I know the feeling. Verizon isn't like in the commercials ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

subtle glen
subtle glen
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huuuuu

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@clear igloo yeah

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Tbf I haven't seen a cell tower in the past couple hours

subtle glen
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why Italy does not invest in telecommunications

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Tbf I haven't seen a cell tower in the past couple hours

subtle glen
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maybe they are small or hidden

clear igloo
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Wow, that's pretty rare to not see any for a while like that

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North Carolina?

clear igloo
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Yup

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I live in Tennessee

clear igloo
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Nice, been through there a couple times going down I-40

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All 500-something miles x.x

subtle glen
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do you know the medium range for cell antennas

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How old are you Lurick? ๐Ÿ˜„

clear igloo
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I'm 28

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Wow

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2x the age of me

clear igloo
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Average range for a cell antenna is 20 to 50 miles

subtle glen
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imma convert that up in km

clear igloo
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Between 2 and 12 parsecs

subtle glen
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What's your job? On the forums you seem to have a lot of knowledge about networking and stuff so I'm assuming something to do with networking?

faint mason
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@clear igloo i havent find an cd that can burn 4 gb for Linux Server

clear igloo
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Yah, I'm a network engineer for Cisco. I do mostly validation and testing/breaking of code (mostly the breaking part)

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Oh nice

clear igloo
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@faint mason Ah yah, I think CDs topped out at 700MB or something back in the day

subtle glen
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@clear igloo is there something that lets you config a cisco switch without using the console/command lines?

clear igloo
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@subtle glen Aside SSH/Telnet, it depends on the product. A lot of things have a REST API now of some sort or a provisioning tool

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or some sort of*

subtle glen
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WS-C3560X-48P this doesnt , right?

clear igloo
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I think for the older 3560X or 3750X switches you could use Prime or something but the newer Catalyst 9000 and even the 3850 or 4500 series do have REST API of some sort after a certain rev of code

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I know the 16.x.x train does, not sure about the 15.x stuff

faint mason
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@clear igloo So ye, PXE is the only option to get linux on the server but i cant figure out on how to use it

clear igloo
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@faint mason Yah PXE is a always a pain. Been years since I've done it ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

subtle glen
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the cisco network assistant cannnot config a switch right?

clear igloo
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@subtle glen Yah, Network Assistant should work

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Why PXE boot? Use the management software to mount the iso or create a bootable USB. @faint mason

clear igloo
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I think

subtle glen
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seems a bit "empty" to me

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i mean for what i saw so far, it seems like to have an overview of the switch

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I know on Dell's (i)DRAC you can mount and boot an iso from the web browser

faint mason
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@rocky badge You cant use Thumb Drive. and mounting the ISO needs JVM 1.4.2 i tried installing that but it sitll wouldnt work

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Try internet explorer

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Chrome and Firefox dropped support for JVM iirc

faint mason
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Oh ye

subtle glen
faint mason
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i tried Edge also

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Edge doesn't support a lot of Java stuff either

faint mason
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Ill give it an try then

clear igloo
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@subtle glen It should have a configure tab somewhere, what version?

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Also, I'll stick with my 3802i APs ๐Ÿ˜›

faint mason
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Lemme start up the server and try it

subtle glen
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i think that is a bug

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how can an ap cost 600 euros

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I like Ubiquiti APs better

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And some APs cost that much

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why

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Each AP at school cost like $300-$400 a piece

clear igloo
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Software and support usually, licenses might be included as well

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Then the controller also costs at minimum 10k

subtle glen
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i mean, someone has to populate an enterprise office with different floors with 600 euros ap

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who would do that

clear igloo
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Well they won't

subtle glen
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oh, they also need a controller?

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^lurick

clear igloo
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Discounts for bulk buy ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

subtle glen
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lol

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cant you just plug em in a switch?

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Would you like to manually setup every AP?

subtle glen
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ahhhh ok ok thats the point

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Or let the APs find a controller and grab info from that

clear igloo
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Some switches do have the WLC built in but the controller can manage across all the switches

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The for updating the AP configurations

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Do you want to manually do that per AP

subtle glen
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Or let the controller do that

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a

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nah tanks

clear igloo
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Hmmm. 6.3(2) should have support for configuration of the 3560X switches

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At school the controller costs 14k xd

subtle glen
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what the f***

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my school has 30 euros ap

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didnt verified yet, but we are there

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ExtremeNetworks APs, switches, NACs, etc etc

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Then Cisco routers

clear igloo
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If you think that's expensive, take a look at the Cisco A99-8X100GE-TR

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We have some HP Prowave switches

clear igloo
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or how about the CPAK-100G-LR4 for ~$25k EACH

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Lol

subtle glen
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whats that tho

clear igloo
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A99-8x100GE-TR is a linecard for the ASR9900 series platforms with 8x100GbE ports, optimized for SP environments

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CPAK-100G-LR4 is an optic for 100GbE fiber at Long Range

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Ooh nice

subtle glen
clear igloo
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Catalyst 4500-E, those things are like tanks, smaller brothers of the Catalyst 6500-E in some regards ๐Ÿ˜›

subtle glen
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in my school, the antennas would not last for more than one day

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who needs tousand dollars switches when you can get a bunch of tp link ones for 200 euros

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We have switches. . .with only one thing plugged in. . .

clear igloo
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XD

subtle glen
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give them to me

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And they cost like 5k

subtle glen
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i need a new switch, the cisco one i have is power hungry as hell and my mom gets angry when the bill is over 80 euros

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at max peak is more power hungry than my pc

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and it only has one of the two psu

clear igloo
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Yah, they can pull a bit of power at times

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One SFP+ . . .

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Xd

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Out of the 4

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mine is 700 W, probably cause it can deliver 40 W of Poe power per port

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The it is a 48 port regular gigabit

subtle glen
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do they sound like a friking jet engine when it starts

clear igloo
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Yah, PoE is nice though if you can use it, less wires ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

subtle glen
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question i got now

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does poe power work after passing trough a powerline

clear igloo
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Unfortunately not

subtle glen
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mmhmmh

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the other powerline would have to re-create the poe power

clear igloo
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Yah, pretty much

subtle glen
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a jet taking off

clear igloo
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PoE is also negotiated by the directly connected thing so if you have something in the middle it stops the negotiation

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Music to my ears ๐Ÿ˜„

subtle glen
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like a non poe switch

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IKR

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i find server noises so satisfiying

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the others that live here think is annoying

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not a good combination

clear igloo
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Haha, yah, once you get used to it though

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you hardly notice it

subtle glen
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also when you go to bed, and you hear that vrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, meh, just amazing

clear igloo
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The vrrrr did drive me crazy after a few years

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Oof discord isn't loading

subtle glen
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hahahaha

clear igloo
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Part of why I had to downgrade my storage server ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

subtle glen
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too many msg's

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i have a 2 bays nas

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without the disks since 2016

clear igloo
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I had a 24-bay server for a while but the fans just finally got to me, now I have a nice quiet NAS

subtle glen
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why am i the only one that cannot have servers on 24/7 due to power consumption

clear igloo
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power ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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I have mine running but I always get notices about how my home isn't efficient compared to my neighbors, lol

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Lol

subtle glen
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hahahahah

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on the bills my house whas on the "unefficient" graph column

clear igloo
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Same here ๐Ÿ˜„

subtle glen
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uuu hp beated cisco with prices

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high prices*

clear igloo
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haha

subtle glen
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there is not even a picture....

clear igloo
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Took a second to load for me

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Lol

subtle glen
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you sell a 30k euro switch or whatever that is, and you dont put the picture

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40K

clear igloo
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You want a picture? That's a license, extra $5K

subtle glen
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hahahaha

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Oof

subtle glen
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COUGH red weapon 8k camera COUGH

clear igloo
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lol, yup

subtle glen
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or similar

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I want to go home

clear igloo
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You on vacation?

subtle glen
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where the fast internet is

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Yes

clear igloo
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Home is at 127.0.0.1

subtle glen
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i want to gome too, where the fast internet is

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no wait

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errror 404, home not found

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my 4g is faster than my home internet

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I have a shirt that says "There's no place like 127.0.0.1"

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Xd

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haha, nice, I need that shirt

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did you had that bug where you cant see what you type

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@clear igloo what is a cisco lab

clear igloo
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What does one look like or what is it?

subtle glen
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oh so theres a cisco lab that is hardware?

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i mean, is it where you learn cisco stuff?

clear igloo
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Depends on the function but most of the labs are for testing/validation where we'll build a topology to mimic a customer environment and test that or they are for troubleshooting purposes where a customer is having some issue and we'll build up a piece of the network to try and recreate and fix the issue

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@clear igloo I would send you mine. . .but it might be too small for you ๐Ÿ˜›

subtle glen
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sounds wrong

clear igloo
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lol

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I'm assuming you can't wear an adult medium

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cause someone suggested to use my old cisco switches as a lab or something like that

clear igloo
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OH!

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In that context it's gear you have for studying and learning

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?

clear igloo
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I cannot Ryois, I need an XL

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Yeah

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woah

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Xd

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do you have one that fits a 1,90 m high guy

clear igloo
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People sell them as kits for certification study on places like ebay so you can practice for an exam and whatnot

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I was thinking of the big picture labs at Cisco itself XD

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Lol

subtle glen
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so using the old ones just to test the command and things like that?

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Why can't I stay on 3G

subtle glen
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no 4g?

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3G is more reliable than 4G LTE here

subtle glen
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wow....

clear igloo
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@subtle glen Yah, that can be another use for a small lab

subtle glen
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so a lab is just to test cisco's stuff

clear igloo
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For the most part yah, or fix customer problems

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Yes

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In that scenario

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other question, is there a specific command to shout down a switch or i can just unplug it

clear igloo
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copy run start and then unplug

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No such thing as a shutdown command ๐Ÿ˜›

subtle glen
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still dont understand what i could do with those 100 mbps switches

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oh, so it wont damage if i unplug it while its running

clear igloo
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Correct, no damage at all, just be sure you write your config or it goes poof

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^

clear igloo
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Learn the commands, practice different scenarios, and test your knowledge are a few things you can do with some old switches

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i am scared now, i took days to reset it, im worried if it deleted everything now

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there are too many commands to remember

clear igloo
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just never do a "format flash:" and pull the power

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is it a challenge

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jk

clear igloo
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You'll have to transfer an image over a serial cable at 9600 baud ๐Ÿ˜„

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115000 baud if it supports it, so 1 year instead of 5

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Lol

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well, it took one week to backup this pc

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and it never succeded

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failed like 4 times

clear igloo
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Ah, the 2950, those a really old

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ikr

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the one downstairs is similar to the one on top, exept it has 2 1 gbps port

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dunno why

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i think they match the 10 gbps port they put on the switches these days

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to link aggregate i guess

clear igloo
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Yup, for linking to higher capacity switches in the distribution layer

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Are the 1gig ports SFP or GBIC?

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I see a cell tower xd

subtle glen
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standard rj45 plugs

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LOL

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go under it

clear igloo
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AH! That must be a 2960

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or a 2950 I haven't seen

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Switches at my school use SFP+ to more switches

subtle glen
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do you remember all the products cisco made

clear igloo
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No but I've worked with a lot of them so far ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

subtle glen
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my school has hamsters running inside servers

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this is my baby, taking dust

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Some have 21 gigabit stacking ports xd

subtle glen
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people would kill to get such a switch for free, i have it and i dont know how to use it

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21gbps?

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why 21?

clear igloo
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question mark is your friend ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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Lol

subtle glen
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so true

clear igloo
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Don't know the command, question mark it out XD

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@clear igloo do you do anything else besides networking ๐Ÿ˜„

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@high anchor wanted to kill me for owning this piece of equipment without knowing how to use it

clear igloo
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Lol, aside networking I don't do much right now, usually game though

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Nice, I don't game ๐Ÿ˜„

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why cisco decided to go to the promt cmd side, why didnt they do like others and have like a web page easy to use

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easy to use on enterprise stuff

subtle glen
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i dont even know how to completely use the pfsense web page

clear igloo
subtle glen
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easy to use? WHAT

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Oooh nice

subtle glen
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i see a couple of raspberries pi

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and a qnap nas

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hp server

clear igloo
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Dell servers, R610 and an R620

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That at home I'm assuming?

clear igloo
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plus a custom server for storing surveillance footage on

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Yup

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Mint

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*nice

subtle glen
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you went to work for cisco just to steal the switches sitting around uh? ๐Ÿ˜Š

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Stupid swipe keyboard

subtle glen
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lol

clear igloo
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@subtle glen Hush ๐Ÿ˜›

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hihihihi

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how much do you consume

clear igloo
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Right now, about 550 watts

subtle glen
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only???

clear igloo
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Yah, it's crazy

subtle glen
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i wish you were my mom

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๐Ÿ˜„

clear igloo
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lol

subtle glen
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so that i could have all the servers i want online 24/7

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wishing for people to be your parents for stuff you want

clear igloo
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Then I would make you learn the command line instead XD

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solar panel is a possible option but on my balcony i can put like only 1 100w panel, and if i want to put them on the roof of the palace i would have to ask permissions for months

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LOL

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i would do that too

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@rocky badge very

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Oof

kindred lodge
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^

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@clear igloo command line isn't hard tho

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im not motivated tho, i dont even know where to start

clear igloo
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@rocky badge I know, just takes getting used to

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how can you say it is not hard

clear igloo
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Start with "enable" and "conf t"

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๐Ÿ˜„

subtle glen
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cant even make a vlan...

clear igloo
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vlan xxx
(feature interface-vlan) - depends on the platform
int vlan xxx

subtle glen
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for god sake

clear igloo
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ip add 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
no shut

subtle glen
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are you some sort of human server

clear igloo
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I've been doing it for years, you memorize that stuff early on

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^

subtle glen
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do you know how to use ubuntu too?

brittle mural
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it's a bit natural to memorize shit when you work with them

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^lurick

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Ew Ubuntu

subtle glen
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whatdo you do @brittle mural

clear igloo
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I know a bit of linux, yah, I know enough to google XD

brittle mural
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@subtle glen wdym?

subtle glen
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work for cisco or similar

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or just hobbies

brittle mural
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I don't work

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Nor do I.

subtle glen
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im 16 i dont work

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if i would, that might be a problem

brittle mural
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As an example, a coder doesn't google how to code every time he wants to do something

int main()
{
int a = 1;
for(a=1;a>0;a++)
{
cout<<"oof"<<endl;
}
}```
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i wouldnt have to google to do that

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the same way a dude who works with networking won't need to google how to do his stuff

subtle glen
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wow....

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do you also code arduino stuff?

brittle mural
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why would i

subtle glen
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i dont know

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is 16
Acts like you're way younger than that

subtle glen
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i thought you were like 20 or something tbh

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or even older

clear igloo
brittle mural
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did we even tell you our age? xd

subtle glen
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nah

sterile spruce
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@Latin Now thats some fun code ๐Ÿ˜›

brittle mural
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@sterile spruce indeed ๐Ÿ˜‰

sterile spruce
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Or should I say... exhausting? ๐Ÿ˜›

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I'm just glad @clear igloo can't be my dad, age wise.

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Xd

subtle glen
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imma save that site for later @clear igloo it is 1:30 am, aint gonna start now xD

clear igloo
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lol, good idea

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@rocky badge haha

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It would be odd having sex at 14, wouldn't it?

sterile spruce
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And just like that we are into a whole other kind of networking...

clear igloo
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LOL

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Lmao

subtle glen
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LOL

clear igloo
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I couldn't resist, lol

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Oof

subtle glen
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nailed it

sterile spruce
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I guess cisco beat me to the punch, huh?

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Lol

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So I posted on Instagram

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About my slow speeds

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And my friends are like. that sucks

subtle glen
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mines are too

brittle mural
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Lol

brittle mural
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lets keep the networking topic doe

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XD

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Yeah

clear igloo
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So, an IPv6 packet walks into a bar

subtle glen
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other are like, "lets go on fortnite" downloads last update in 2 sec, me "yeah im coming, just wait 20 minutes, theres a 1.8 GB update"

clear igloo
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Nobody responds

sterile spruce
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Okay... I was about to say we should stick to the silicon based type of networking... then I realised my mistake...

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@clear igloo HAHAHA

subtle glen
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...

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@sterile spruce ๐Ÿ˜„

subtle glen
clear igloo
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Do you want to hear a TCP joke?

subtle glen
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sure

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Yes I want to

subtle glen
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im scared about the answer

clear igloo
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So you want to hear a TCP joke?

sterile spruce
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...

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Session Terminated By User

subtle glen
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LOL

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Lol

clear igloo
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lol

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I hope this hotel has decent interwebs

subtle glen
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lol

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Oof Cisco, jk.

clear igloo
subtle glen
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fav networking stuff brand?

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i was about to post that

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sterile spruce
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Well networking is rather easy compared to data transmission

clear igloo
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Lol

subtle glen
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HAAA

clear igloo
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Lol

subtle glen
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"According to PayScale, a network engineer in United States earns an annual salary between $44,858 โ€“ $98,042 (plus additional benefits)."

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mmmmm

clear igloo
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I can definitely say that the salary can go MUCH higher than that

subtle glen
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personal experience?

clear igloo
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Depending on job title, experience, certs, and all the other fun stuff, obviously

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Although that's a good starting range salary ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

subtle glen
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is it true that you get called to fix stuff even on saturday/sunday or on vacation days in general

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Yeah

clear igloo
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In my job, no

subtle glen
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what if you cant get there

clear igloo
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But, depending on the employer and line of work, it definitely can/does happen

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Laptop + Cellphone + VPN = work from anywhere

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LOL

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now here comes the question, why people use a programm to vpn when you can use the built in one of windows

clear igloo
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Security and company control, they can push updates down and control the information from end to end

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Because windows's sucks

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And isn't really manageable

subtle glen
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is it good to start tho?

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No

subtle glen
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mmmm

clear igloo
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Yah, for small companies it can be a start but for large enterprise companies it's easier to manage with a separate client

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Ugh

clear igloo
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Plus, a lot of people are not smart enough to figure it out themselves so a push button sign in is easy

subtle glen
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the win one seems pretty straigh forward

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still didnt find where to change the type of protocoll but..

clear igloo
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It's not terrible, but the complexity removed and streamlined process from another client can be worth much more to a bigger company. Don't know if the Windows client does security certs or not, I would assume so but never set it up so I'm not 100% sure

subtle glen
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so the windows one have the basic to have a vpn

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and thats it

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Ooof

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Im using hotel WiFi

clear igloo
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Yah, with a third party client I can control what routes are pushed to the client (split tunnel VPN), what version of software they are running (prevent security issues), DNS requests, and more. It gives companies peace of mind but I do see where you are coming from

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How bad is it Ryois?

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It's stable

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That's all that matters

clear igloo
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Nice

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Now charging xd

subtle glen
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am i the only one that when enters an hotel, the first thing to do is to connect to the wifi and do a speedtest

clear igloo
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It would appear not, lol

subtle glen
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omg an hotel that has more than one plug

clear igloo
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^

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Ummm

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0dBm isn't possible???

clear igloo
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lol, wat

subtle glen
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Found the APs that are nearest to me

clear igloo
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Depending on the hotel those are probably Meraki APs

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LMAO 192.168.X.X

clear igloo
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lol

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subtle glen
clear igloo
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Nice

subtle glen
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192.168

clear igloo
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@rocky badge Try to login to the HTTP site XD

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@clear igloo I tried

clear igloo
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lol

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I'm not home right now

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So that knocks off 7 devices from the network

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One of my servers are off

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My Chromecasts and Google home is off

subtle glen
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the cat stepped on the powerbar

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like linus stepped on the power squid

clear igloo
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lol

subtle glen
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*The powerbar connects to the, power squid. The powersquid connects to the other powersquid, actually no this goes in the back of the ups"

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I wish I could use Azure AD for my only authentication

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But after Azure AD authentication it's router authentication

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I know on pfsense you can use RADIUS and LDAP for authentication

clear igloo
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Nice

subtle glen
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my pc is making short crash noises, i dont like it at all

clear igloo
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Uh oh

subtle glen
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yep

clear igloo
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The intertubes must be clogged

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๐Ÿ˜„

subtle glen
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mm yeah

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I want my hackintosh ;-;

subtle glen
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lemme put some baking soda and vinegar in the ethernet port

clear igloo
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lol

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Gonna head off for now, read a book and snooze ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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Cya

subtle glen
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good night

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reading books

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What book?

subtle glen
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eww

clear igloo
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Metro 2035

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Never heard of it

subtle glen
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i count ethernet cables to fall asleep

clear igloo
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It's the last of the books the Metro games were based on

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It's 9:12PM your place right?

clear igloo
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8:12PM

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Oh

subtle glen
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pffff

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2:13 am

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yesterday i went to sleep at 3 am and i woke up at 2:30 pm

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Well anyways I'm going to go eat

clear igloo
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lol, I'm up at 5am every day so I can't do that

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Later

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Cya

subtle glen
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bye bye

raw verge
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someone say hackintosh ๐Ÿ‘€

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Yeah @raw verge

subtle glen
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thought you were a windows buddy

raw verge
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Sick i have one as well

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cool setup btw

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@raw verge thanks

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And nice

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@raw verge sexy

raw verge
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Thanks

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Specs? @raw verge

raw verge
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@rocky badge Itโ€™s an older rig I duel boot (Tri boot technically) windows, Ubuntu, and mac with. FX 8320, 16Gb 2133Mhz ram, 3 260Gb SSDs (just for OS, my other storage is all network), GTX 960

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done me well

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Oh nice

waxen scroll
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what i use for VIRL

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i dont use physical equipment for lab anymore

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plus how am i gonna get stuff like a ASR9k for lab

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v_v

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i should ask my VAR what the lab price is for giggles

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also @rocky badge whats the problem with using 192.168.X.X ? its probably better for a public wifi as it wont conflict with work VPNs since many offices are on 10/8

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if my public wifi subnet is 10.0.0.0/24 and my work has a server on 10.0.0.2 ... thats a problem

clear igloo
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I know what the lab price is. Are we talking a 99xx or a 90xx?

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9912

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thats what i work on

clear igloo
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Nice ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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virtual XR does the job i guess but its so slow

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Yah, it's good for the basics but you really can't sim all the linecards and features

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work wanted to get rid of all the hundreds of routers we have and use 4x 9912

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@waxen scroll ok fair enough

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But for a hotel

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Lol, that's a lot of consolidation.

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It won't give you many IPs

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Hai @clear igloo

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Hey Ryois

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You at work?

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they went and did it but their IT money comes from the individual departments, so its hard as hell to expand with more line cards

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cause whose gonna pay

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as an IT person, i hate accountants/accounting/finance/etc

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its all a game

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and i lose.

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its never a simple "we have the money"

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Rip

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Yeah

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Yup, finance is evil

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heres some LOLs

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i was a contractor for 5 yrs at a big pharma company

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they make $$$$$$$$$

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9912 is 81K alone or 220K with the basics (list price)

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Wow

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they couldnt "afford" to hire me yet spent $100k on one piece of network lab equipment

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๐Ÿ˜„

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screwed by accounting again!

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Did they buy the 8x100G linecard for the ASR? lol

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we dont have 100g, just 10 and 1

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Or like how certain parts of the business gets less financing than the IT department.
That's how it is at school

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we're talking about moving to 100

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Not even 40G?

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but its super expensive

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My school is just 10G, nothing too fancy.

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lol yeah, no 40

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Not too surprised, if 10G is enough why upgrade, but still a little surprised there isn't some 40G somehwere

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we're not a service provider, so it works. we just happen to have SP routers

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Yah, makes sense

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@waxen scroll where do you work? ๐Ÿ˜„

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fortune 100 retailer

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What flavor switches do you use, if you don't mind my asking?

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Oh

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Catalyst 2K/3K/4K/6K/9K/other?

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How much do you know about Cisco. . .

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a mix of 2,3,4 ... we have a demo 9k unit but i dont think we're moving to it any time soon

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A lot ๐Ÿ˜›

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@rocky badge i'm a CCNA, could be a CCNP, and have ~5yrs network experience

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Yah, the 9K is nice, still has some bugs and lacks some features in some aspects though

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@waxen scroll nice

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I was 9 5 years ago

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๐Ÿ˜›

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haha

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There is a cheaper Catalyst 9K coming out soon for more L2 focused stuff, not sure what model you were demoed

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i did network ops for about 2yrs and then moved into engineering. next step is architecture.

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Nice, architecture can be a lot of fun, you get to see it all come together ๐Ÿ˜„

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I'm just a 14 year old that spends too much time on Discord. ๐Ÿคท

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where i work the architect just tells me the project details/requirements and i take that and figure out how to deploy

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But you enjoy learning and have a passion for it, which is what a lot of people lack ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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The only reason I want to move is for a network upgrade ๐Ÿ˜›

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You have a big lab at work or just enough to test out the small stuff? @waxen scroll

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its just enough.... when i was at the pharma company we had an exact replica of the datacenter gear, remote sites, and servers in our lab

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this company not so much

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retail is cheap

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@clear igloo if you had to give an unbiased opinion about Ubiquiti or Cisco for home networks? Which one would you choose? ๐Ÿ˜„

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wow, surprised they didn't try to leverage a third party for that (the pharma company)

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they did for some things

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but once its running its easy enough to modify

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unbiased? Well based on price alone I would say Ubiquiti, unless you're looking at stuff on ebay and can get similar prices

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Yah, I know a lot of people are looking to move their labs off prem in some places

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Hmmm

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@rocky badge one of the massive issues thats happening now is that tier 1/2 jobs are getting outsourced more and more. i hope that gets reversed when you graduate. in networking they hate letting inexperienced people touch the networks. Think about it... you're a server person and you work on one server... if it breaks, too bad. Network can take the company down. ๐Ÿ˜„

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Rip

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spirent vs IXIA

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i use IXIA

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lol

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Spirent all the way ๐Ÿ˜›

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IXIA is like gaben.... takes my wallet away

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I'd let no one touch my network unless I need their help ๐Ÿ˜›

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Haha, yah, both sides charge a ton for the gear

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We get a nice discount though >.>

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im a huge riverbed ecosystem fan too

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you can do NSA stuff on the network

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tap and store

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I wonder how much my parents will let me spend on networking stuff thonk

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Nice, we've got a couple L1 switches that can do taps but since we're doing a lot of 100Gb that stuff gets stupid expensive

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i was able to download someones packets that went through the datacenter a week ago

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"it must be a network issue"

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NO

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GO AWAY

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Lol

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Haha. I like "What do you mean you didn't read our minds and certify this feature we never told you about?!?"

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"You're not invited to my server, Ed."

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Linus said that in the server room tour.

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i use UBNT at home.... AP, router, switch

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fanless gear was also important to me

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EdgeMAX or UniFi router and switches?

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Yah, I would probably use them myself if I didn't get my gear to "borrow" for free ๐Ÿ˜›

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Please tell me EdgeMAX

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edgemax router, non-unifi switch, unifi AP

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I've never seen the appeal of UniFi for switches

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i stupidly bought the cloudkey thinking it integrated my switch and edgemax.... returned that thing quick

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You can run that in docker

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If you needed

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i dont run my server or computers 24/7, so the cloudkey appealed to me

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The docker doesn't have to run 24/7

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Just online for the majority of the time

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it doesnt, but then you miss stats

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Yeah

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3850-48F-E w/ 4x10Gb SFP module, 3504 WLC, 3x 3802i APs, and some 2960-8port switches where I didn't run enough copper originally

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you're not based out of rosemont are you?

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Who?

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Lurick

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reeeeee why do sites have to load a lot of images

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my shitty connection can't handle it .-.

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Ooh nice

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@waxen scroll No I'm out of RTP, NC

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Nice setup

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whoever buys this house next is gonna screw it all up

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Probably

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Want to know what I hate most about that setup? @waxen scroll

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the orange wire?

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i got lazy with that one

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And the blue wire, just sitting there, taunting ;-;

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The white Arris surfboard modem ๐Ÿ˜„

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reeeeee send the stupid message